Speaker 1: Six eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati, chick Ludwig
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W.
Speaker 2: This is sports talk like Eric Carmen and the Raspberries.
Speaker 2: We're going all the way to nine o'clock tonight. Now
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you to get involved. Let's have some
Speaker 2: fun tonight. I don't know about you, but the Cincinnati
Speaker 2: Acats are going to cause me to have a heart
Speaker 2: attack with a smile on my face. Of course. What
Speaker 2: a victory today chopping down number fourteen ranked the Iowa
Speaker 2: State Cyclones at Knippert Stadium, Brendan Soresby passing for two
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen yards and two touchdowns, Evan Pryor rushing
Speaker 2: for one hundred and eleven yards and two touchdowns. You
Speaker 2: see getting a seventeen point first quarter and then hanging
Speaker 2: on for dear life with some great defense and some
Speaker 2: big plays on offense to beat Iowa State. Were you there?
Speaker 2: What was it like at Knippert Stadium today? The Wrigley
Speaker 2: Field of college football stadiums, fans, students pouring out onto
Speaker 2: the field, an incredible celebration going on at the NIP
Speaker 2: And how do you feel now about out Scott Saderfield
Speaker 2: what a turnaround, A signature win. Last week arguably the
Speaker 2: best of his career here in Cincinnati with the comeback
Speaker 2: victory over Kansas, and now today with you see snapping
Speaker 2: Iowa State's perfect record. What a victory it was. And
Speaker 2: it took every second of sixty minutes to win this game.
Speaker 2: You see ahead seventeen to nothing after the first quarter,
Speaker 2: thirty one to seven with just over a minute to
Speaker 2: go before halftime. But then Iowa State, with Rocko back
Speaker 2: to quarterback, they got to two for one. They get
Speaker 2: the touchdown at the end of the first half, touchdown
Speaker 2: to start the third quarter, and then i started getting nervous,
Speaker 2: but an incredible fourth down stop in the red zone
Speaker 2: on fourth and one, stopping rock O Becked and then
Speaker 2: Soresby with an incredible eighty two yard touchdown pass. But
Speaker 2: it still took recovering an on sidekick, and they still
Speaker 2: had the punt before the game ended. Heart is beaten
Speaker 2: like a big bass drum. Nineteenth nervous breakdown. Is this
Speaker 2: thing unfolds? But the Bearcats hang on and what a
Speaker 2: victory it was. You want to chime in five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 2: seven thousand, one eight hundred. The big one. How about
Speaker 2: last night at the Pit Elder and Moler. We're gonna
Speaker 2: hear from Kurt Roffing Elder's print after the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hour news. I haven't seen a scene like that
Speaker 2: at the Pit Elder Stadium in years. I don't. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen a more intense crowd, especially as students ready
Speaker 2: for Moler last night credible? But how about the UC Bearcats. Hey,
Speaker 2: We're eventually going to hear from Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legendary
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Bruce is going to join me tomorrow postgame
Speaker 2: Sports Talk nine to eleven PM in Northern Kentucky. We'll
Speaker 2: give out the site, we will give out the address.
Speaker 2: Would love to have you stop by Wings and Rings
Speaker 2: to hear and listen and watch the Chickster and Kazerski
Speaker 2: breakdown what we hope will be a Bengals victory tomorrow
Speaker 2: against the Detroit Lions. People are laughing at me right
Speaker 2: now when I'm saying Bengals victory over the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: But wouldn't it just be so NFL. I am not
Speaker 2: a gambling man, not at all, but if I was
Speaker 2: to put some money down, it would be on the
Speaker 2: Bengals tomorrow a double digit home dog. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: I not only look for the Bengals to cover, it
Speaker 2: will be so NFL so any given Sunday for the
Speaker 2: Bengals to win tomorrow. I do know this that if
Speaker 2: they put up anything short of a supreme effort tomorrow,
Speaker 2: even in a defeat, pitchforks and what do you want
Speaker 2: to call it? A march down to pay Court Stadium.
Speaker 2: I know I'm not going to settle for anything less
Speaker 2: than a supreme effort tomorrow because if they get blown
Speaker 2: out again by the Detroit Lions, it is absolute armageddon
Speaker 2: here for the Bengals and it will be a very
Speaker 2: very long season. People are already bailing at two and two.
Speaker 2: I don't understand it. Yes, the Lions are formidable, but
Speaker 2: the Bengals got just kicked in the teeth the last
Speaker 2: two weeks at Minnesota and then on Monday Night football
Speaker 2: in Denver. It was embarrassing. They cannot come out and
Speaker 2: play that again tomorrow night, four twenty five. Start all
Speaker 2: the coverage right here on seven hundred WLW starting at noon.
Speaker 2: What a crew gonna be an awesome day? It sure
Speaker 2: was an awesome day today at Nippert Stadium. We're gonna
Speaker 2: hear from Scott Saderfield after the game is interview with
Speaker 2: Tony Pike. When we come back. We're gonna have a
Speaker 2: fun night here talking Reds, talking Bengals, talking Ucy football,
Speaker 2: talking Elder Moler, and then we're gonna have some fun
Speaker 2: in the eight o'clock hour. And I'm warning you right
Speaker 2: now get your thinking caps on, because we're gonna play
Speaker 2: a game of a delightful game of reverse radio in
Speaker 2: the eight o'clock hour where callers, the loyal listeners that
Speaker 2: Chick Magnets, are going to call in and then I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask you questions and you're gonna give me answers.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have an awful lot of fun. Six sixteen
Speaker 2: in the Queen City, chick Ludwig, Sports Talk, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: How about them Bearcats thirty eight to thirty over the
Speaker 2: Iowa State Cyclones, who are now five and one, Bearcats
Speaker 2: four and one and two and oh in the Big
Speaker 2: twelve on seven hundred WLW the.
Speaker 3: Bengals six point twenty one in the Queen City of Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: This is sports talk all fired up over the UC
Speaker 2: Bearcats in their thirty eight to thirty victory over previously
Speaker 2: undefeated and fourteenth ranked the Iowa State Cyclones. And to me,
Speaker 2: the most critical play in this game came with seven
Speaker 2: forty to go, with Iowa State trailing thirty one to
Speaker 2: twenty two. Fourth and one at UC's sixteen yard line
Speaker 2: and rock O Becked stopped for no gain at Cincinnati's
Speaker 2: sixteen yard line, and then three plays later, eighty four
Speaker 2: yards later, the Bearcats are in the end zone on
Speaker 2: the deep and long touchdown pass and catch for the
Speaker 2: Bearcats to push that lead out to thirty eight to
Speaker 2: twenty two. Iowa State scored again, got the two point
Speaker 2: conversion you see, got the on side kick, couldn't quite
Speaker 2: run out the clock, had to punt, but you see,
Speaker 2: hangs on for a thirty eight to thirty victory. We've
Speaker 2: got a caller on the line, Connor in Cincinnati here
Speaker 2: wants to talk a little bit about my alma mater
Speaker 2: class of nineteen seventy two, the Elder Panthers, and how
Speaker 2: proud the Panthers made him last night. Hey Connor, what's up?
Speaker 4: How's it going?
Speaker 5: Check?
Speaker 4: It's uh you got Connor and Frank Lenmiller here on
Speaker 4: the line. Just want to talk about.
Speaker 2: The Panthers outstanding. What a game last night. I've never
Speaker 2: seen a crowd that intense.
Speaker 6: What a scene it was.
Speaker 4: I mean, and they're just elders, just aren't in everybody's respect.
Speaker 4: So it's uh, it's gonna be fun to watch. We
Speaker 4: got we got a lot of football in the future
Speaker 4: coming up.
Speaker 2: You know, when I hear homecoming, I'm thinking of you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a Patsy, but you bring
Speaker 2: Moler in for homecoming? And what a night? Uh unbel
Speaker 2: Kayden Easta, the quarterback of the Panthers, What a game,
Speaker 2: what a gamer?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Leaders all over the field, I mean yes, on the
Speaker 7: defensive end, you got Digg and you got your end, you.
Speaker 4: Got you got e Step, you got Ruth. It's just
Speaker 4: you got players all over the field.
Speaker 2: And I hear they've got a good defense, they've got
Speaker 2: good linebackers, they've got it, they've got it. Be awesome,
Speaker 2: got it Old Molar to sixteen points.
Speaker 6: Yep, it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be fun to
Speaker 6: watch down the stretch. So we uh, we got high
Speaker 6: expectations every on this west.
Speaker 4: Side of town.
Speaker 2: And uh they could very well meet again in the
Speaker 2: state football playoffs, couldn't They?
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, and it'll be Uh it'll be another classic.
Speaker 2: So man to beat Saint X last week on the
Speaker 2: road and then to come home and beat Molar Man.
Speaker 2: What what a couple of weeks here for the Panthers.
Speaker 4: Yep, untouchable. I mean we got Highlands next week. So yes,
Speaker 4: eat the ball, eat the ball.
Speaker 2: Wrong outstanding Connor Man. Appreciate the call.
Speaker 4: Absolutely check, I'll talk to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, take care, Say hi to Pops for me.
Speaker 2: And yes, my Ohio State Buckeyes. And even though I
Speaker 2: went to Ohio State graduated School of Journalism nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 2: I'm a native of Cincinnati. I love the bear Cats.
Speaker 2: They're getting me as fired up as I do against
Speaker 2: when Ohio State's playing. And here my nephew and his wife,
Speaker 2: Mark Christopher Junior and lee Ann, his bride. They're in
Speaker 2: Columbus right now. They're gosh, they're at one of my
Speaker 2: favorite taverns, the outer end, getting all fired up for
Speaker 2: tonight's Buckeye game against the Minnesota Golden Gophers at Ohio Stadium. Gosh,
Speaker 2: I'm there in spirit, but I am so glad to
Speaker 2: be with you, the loyal listeners, and all the Chick
Speaker 2: magnets out there. Hey, Dick and Dayton is calling. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: lay it on me, buddy, lay it on me, Dick,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 8: Well, you know, you gotta say there, Kats are pretty good.
Speaker 8: You know, that's pretty good for them to be the
Speaker 8: team like this, you.
Speaker 2: Know, four and one, four and one, two and oh
Speaker 2: yeah in two and oh in the big twelve.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2: Gotta love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now they've got UCF Central Florida from the old AAC days. Yeah,
Speaker 2: coming into the next Man, they're loving these Saturday noon starts.
Speaker 2: Another one next Saturday.
Speaker 8: And you know another thing. We got to say something though.
Speaker 8: The Reds, I mean, gave it all they could and
Speaker 8: yet we went there. But yet we can build on
Speaker 8: this maybe for next year, you know they'll be I
Speaker 8: think they did a lot better. It would like we'd
Speaker 8: like to see it. But I've got a question for you, Chick. Yes, sir,
Speaker 8: you've covered the Bengals for years. Do you really think
Speaker 8: now tomorrow is going to be their test? But they're
Speaker 8: going to have to play good. But you don't want
Speaker 8: to go zero in three? Do you think that it's
Speaker 8: i'd know with Burrough gone, but do they have I
Speaker 8: think they got a chance. But what's your opinion on tomorrow?
Speaker 2: I'm going out on the limb and saying they win.
Speaker 2: I really am. They've got blown out and embarrassed the
Speaker 2: last two weeks. Now they're at home. They cannot play
Speaker 2: like that in front of their home crowd. There's going
Speaker 2: to be torches and pitchforks on the way down to
Speaker 2: pay Course Stadium if they lay another egg like they
Speaker 2: have the last two weeks. I want to see effort,
Speaker 2: effort at the very minimum. And you know what, Jick Dick,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say it. There's one word
Speaker 2: to describe the Bengals.
Speaker 9: What's that?
Speaker 2: Soft? They are soft. They are allowing running backs to
Speaker 2: get outside. They're allowing wide receivers to settle into wide
Speaker 2: open areas in the zone. Okay, Whereas on offense, every
Speaker 2: pass that is thrown by Jake Brown is contested?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Everyone, where where are the easy throws in first downs?
Speaker 2: So and then the penalties come and it destroys your confidence.
Speaker 2: And this team has to get its confidence back and
Speaker 2: I like what Ted Carris the Center said. They own it,
Speaker 2: they deserve the criticism, and it's time for them to
Speaker 2: step forward tomorrow starting at four.
Speaker 8: Well, have a good night, chick, all.
Speaker 2: Right, appreciate it, Dick, Thank you, sir By.
Speaker 8: Now, yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 2: All right. How about do you see Bearcats?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: Huge? Now I want to just refresh my screen here
Speaker 2: on some college football scores. Oh my goodness, there's six
Speaker 2: minutes and seventeen seconds left in the Rose Bowl and
Speaker 2: UCLA oh Ton four owen one in the Big Ten,
Speaker 2: has a forty two to twenty eight lead over the
Speaker 2: number seven ranked Penn State Nitney Lions. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Florida unranked leads Number nine Texas in Gainesville twenty nine
Speaker 2: to fourteen. Number ten Alabama has a twenty to fourteen
Speaker 2: lead over the sixteenth ranked Vanderbilt Commodores. Notre Dame twenty one,
Speaker 2: the number twenty one ranked team in the nation. He
Speaker 2: has a twenty eight to seven lead at home over
Speaker 2: Boise State, number twenty four Virginia Man with ten minutes
Speaker 2: it's to go in the game, a twenty four to
Speaker 2: fourteen lead at Louisville, Oklahoma, fifth rank Sooners rolling at
Speaker 2: home against kent State, and some finals that are in
Speaker 2: number twelve Georgia over Kentucky thirty five to fourteen, and
Speaker 2: the Michigan Wolverines twenty four to ten over the Wisconsin Badgers.
Speaker 2: It's not looking very promising right now for the Badgers. Hey,
Speaker 2: we've reached the bottom of the hour break, it's news time.
Speaker 2: When we come back, Kurt Roffing, Elder Principal and CEO,
Speaker 2: is going to join us on seven hundred WLW. Welcome
Speaker 2: back to Sports Talk with your host Chick Ludwig on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Elder Stadium in West price Hill is
Speaker 2: one of the most iconic high school football venues, not
Speaker 2: just in the state, but in the nation. It's known
Speaker 2: as the Pit Elder's twelfth Man and last night it
Speaker 2: was rocking with an intensity, excitement in enthusiasm that I
Speaker 2: haven't seen in a long time. And it was for homecoming,
Speaker 2: the fifty fifth reunion for the class of nineteen seventy,
Speaker 2: and the Panthers delivered a twenty four to sixteen victory
Speaker 2: over Moler for the first outright GCL South title in
Speaker 2: seventeen years. And here to tell us about it, Elder
Speaker 2: Principal and CEO, Kurt Roffing. What a night Elder Nation
Speaker 2: won't soon forget. Kurt, Welcome to seven hundred WLW. How
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 4: I'm doing well? How are you checking?
Speaker 2: Oh? Fantastic? And what was it like inside that stadium
Speaker 2: last night? Kurt?
Speaker 6: Let me start off.
Speaker 9: It was crowded.
Speaker 6: The atmosphere was just unbelievable, exciting for both sides. Moeller
Speaker 6: and Elder. You know, what an awesome game for both teams,
Speaker 6: both schools to witness, and you know, luckily Elder came
Speaker 6: out on top. And it's going to be a fun
Speaker 6: week this week heading into Highlands that we play next Friday.
Speaker 2: And Kurt, I want to read to you a text
Speaker 2: that I got from my brother Dan, who was with
Speaker 2: his wife Jackie and many family members last night. He said,
Speaker 2: mister Ruffing's blessing, his address and prayer before the game
Speaker 2: was amazing. It set the tone for the whole night.
Speaker 2: It was a Catholic prayer that included respect for each other.
Speaker 2: It was beautiful, the weather, the atmosphere, the quality of
Speaker 2: play on both sides, the youthful energy, the love the community.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever been so proud of Elder,
Speaker 2: what a special place. And after the prayer, they sang
Speaker 2: the Alma Mater, followed by the national anthem, So spiritual,
Speaker 2: so moving. So you said you were a star last night.
Speaker 6: You set the tone, No, chick, I appreciate that, but
Speaker 6: I know I'm not even close to a star. I
Speaker 6: had the privilege of being able to say the prayer
Speaker 6: before the games. You know, my predecessor, Tom Martin, he
Speaker 6: taught me, well, you know, as you said, we are
Speaker 6: a Catholic school, we will always be a Catholic school.
Speaker 6: And I'm honored to be able to leave the school.
Speaker 6: So no, I'm not a star at all.
Speaker 2: How about sixty nine folks jam into the pit and
Speaker 2: Brian Bill and I want to thank Brian for facilitating
Speaker 2: our interview here tonight. He was a great help today,
Speaker 2: he said. The only beverages left in the whole building
Speaker 2: were six diet Doctor peppers, the only drinks left in
Speaker 2: the concession stands. Incredible and sixteen over sixteen thousand unique
Speaker 2: viewers who turned into the broadcast on the Elder News
Speaker 2: Network with a Prep Sports Radio Net with the Prep
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Network. And that's fifty percent of the winner
Speaker 2: in spring sports totals combined, so a lot of unique
Speaker 2: viewers last night to the Elder experience. Kurt, Yeah, and.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what our Enn Elder News Network, what
Speaker 6: our crew does. And when I say crew, I'm talking
Speaker 6: about the students and some of our staff, but our
Speaker 6: students are the ones that really put the show on.
Speaker 6: I'm at a birthday party for my wife and our
Speaker 6: friend's granddaughter. Anyway, my friend is he went to Elder
Speaker 6: with me, Saint Dominic. He now is in Cleveland, so
Speaker 6: they watched the game on n N last night and
Speaker 6: he was just complimenting the Enn program for how much
Speaker 6: of a professional production that they put on. And the
Speaker 6: thing that's very unique about this and for Elder High
Speaker 6: School is that our students do about ninety eight percent
Speaker 6: of the work. They're in the network studio inside the
Speaker 6: school building operating everything. Students are out on the field
Speaker 6: with the cameras, so what they provide our alumni and
Speaker 6: friends of Elder is unbelievable. It is the only thing
Speaker 6: I would have to say is I really appreciate everyone's
Speaker 6: tuning in, But if you have the opportunity to come
Speaker 6: to the game and support our school and the players
Speaker 6: in the stadium. That makes it even.
Speaker 2: Better, no doubt about that. In props big time to
Speaker 2: Kevin Spolidge, the director of athletics, and Adam Doole, the
Speaker 2: media production coordinator. And then just to play on the field.
Speaker 2: How about Caden east Step the quarterback twenty one of
Speaker 2: twenty nine, two hundred and eighty six yards, three touchdowns,
Speaker 2: two to Jackson Ruth, another to Chase Wolpoole, an unbelievable defense,
Speaker 2: to hold Molar to sixteen points, to generate twenty four,
Speaker 2: and to thread the needle on so many passes. Just gosh,
Speaker 2: it's just a signature win. Really, back to back at
Speaker 2: SAT next, then home with Molar, uh and then Highlands
Speaker 2: comes next. And this is just a phenomenal time for
Speaker 2: for Elder football and the high school.
Speaker 6: Kurt it is you know, during the school day, if
Speaker 6: people could be there just to witness the excitement, and
Speaker 6: you know, you take this football team, you can't say
Speaker 6: that there's only real superstars. They all play well together,
Speaker 6: they have level heads, and you know that makes it
Speaker 6: even better. They're all good kids. Yeah, you know, everyone
Speaker 6: loves to win, but it's even better with the kind
Speaker 6: of kids that we're producing when they graduate from Elder
Speaker 6: and go on to be successful in their lives. So
Speaker 6: you know, for us that's more important. But we'll take
Speaker 6: the win whenever we can.
Speaker 2: Our family, the Ludwigs like to say that the only
Speaker 2: thing bad about Elder or the only uh, You've only
Speaker 2: get to stay for four years and then you have
Speaker 2: to leave. But really, in all seriousness, you you never
Speaker 2: leave Elder, you know, with the with the purple blood
Speaker 2: that you have, uh, when you exit with a diploma.
Speaker 6: I agree, And that's what's so special about our alumni.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: They just they keep that Elder pride going. And you know,
Speaker 6: we celebrated our hundredth anniversary a couple of years ago
Speaker 6: and we're here for another hundred years.
Speaker 2: And I also want to give props to the other
Speaker 2: teams in the GCL South Moeler, Lassalle and Saint X.
Speaker 2: We like to say, Kurt Ruffing that we fight like
Speaker 2: hell in high school and then we become Bffs'.
Speaker 6: Our at where I live, our next door neighbor moved
Speaker 6: in about a year ago today. He went to St X,
Speaker 6: played football, went on to Vanderbilt, played football, and al
Speaker 6: as one of their freshman football coaches.
Speaker 4: His name is Nick.
Speaker 6: Lyle, great, great guy.
Speaker 4: We had a little.
Speaker 6: Side beck going on for the st X football game
Speaker 6: and gets who won. Yes, So he owes me a
Speaker 6: couple of diet cokes and we're going to enjoy those
Speaker 6: on my deck one night. But you're right, it's it's
Speaker 6: it's a wonderful league. The competition is awesome, but you know,
Speaker 6: when it's all said and done, after the games, we're
Speaker 6: all all good friends.
Speaker 2: And I grew up at the corner of West Ethan Rosemont,
Speaker 2: and man, I could hear the uh the public address
Speaker 2: system from from our house at elders Stone. It's carved
Speaker 2: right into the community. And I got to walk through
Speaker 2: the stadium every day going to school. Can't do that anymore,
Speaker 2: but oh it's elder Stadium. The pit is just it's iconic.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What makes it so nice compared to most other stadiums
Speaker 6: is there's no running track in between the field and
Speaker 6: the stands, so the spectators are right there next to
Speaker 6: the field, so you know, it makes you feel like
Speaker 6: you're in there actually playing with these guys.
Speaker 2: Man, you're absolutely right. And sometimes in the stands it's
Speaker 2: a little bit of a distraction, just watching all the
Speaker 2: people walk continuously around the stadium. But it's just such
Speaker 2: a unique place and gosh, it's got the Wrigley Field
Speaker 2: look to it with the homes and the porches really
Speaker 2: overlooking the home grandstands.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we elder now owns all the property behind
Speaker 6: the press box going down to the house that has
Speaker 6: the deck behind it. Yes, so you know, in our plans,
Speaker 6: the master facility plan that I just had completed, our
Speaker 6: our intent is to build a new press box and
Speaker 6: then all the property behind it will become a parking lot,
Speaker 6: so it'll make it a better.
Speaker 4: Experience for our fans.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's saying something. Man always looking to gosh,
Speaker 2: improve and expand and just and the programs that the
Speaker 2: school offers, now some even you know, because not every
Speaker 2: kid is going to go to college, and there's some
Speaker 2: there's some other things in the works. There other programs
Speaker 2: that that are offered to help kids get jobs.
Speaker 6: Right, I'm currently in my ten years principal. So about
Speaker 6: eight years ago we started a skilled trades program. Yes,
Speaker 6: and you know we offer right now we're offering electricity,
Speaker 6: so that's a true apprenticeship program. Welding through Cincinnati state
Speaker 6: auto mechanics, auto body, HVAC, plumbing, or carpentry and construction
Speaker 6: management with mes or Construction.
Speaker 4: So if a.
Speaker 6: Student comes to us saying, hey, I've got this interest
Speaker 6: in this trade, if we're not offering it at older,
Speaker 6: we're going to do whatever we can to make it
Speaker 6: work for that student, because you know, my feeling has
Speaker 6: always been not every student wants to go to college
Speaker 6: nor needs to go to college, and we needed to
Speaker 6: offer them a different path that we could provide them.
Speaker 6: So the Skilled Trades program has really really been successful.
Speaker 6: It's open to our seniors only, and this year our
Speaker 6: senior class is right at two hundred and we have
Speaker 6: thirty three seniors taking advantage of that.
Speaker 2: That is fantastic, Kurt, And hey, I really appreciate you
Speaker 2: carving out time here. You're at a birthday party and
Speaker 2: I know Doug. I'm sure Doug Ramsey has not come
Speaker 2: down to Earth yet and but yeah, he'll celebrate this
Speaker 2: weekend and probably starting tomorrow he'll start getting ready for Highlands.
Speaker 2: And I just want to congratulate you, your staff, the students,
Speaker 2: the football team, just everybody involved at Elder High School
Speaker 2: for just an incredible evening of gosh football last night
Speaker 2: at the pit.
Speaker 6: I agree, and Chick, thanks for having me and thanks
Speaker 6: for being a loyal a lum.
Speaker 2: All right, Kurt, Kurt Roffing, thank you so much, the
Speaker 2: elder principal and CEO of a great, great high school
Speaker 2: in West Price Hill. Thanks so much, Kurt, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: And this is seven hundred WLW Welcome back to Sports
Speaker 2: Talk with your host Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: In the University of Cincinnati, Bearcats improved to four and
Speaker 2: one overall, two to zero in the Big Twelve with
Speaker 2: a thirty eight to thirty victory over fourteenth ranked Iowa State.
Speaker 2: Today and our very own Tony Pike caught up with
Speaker 2: head coach Scott Sadderfield after the game.
Speaker 10: Here they are, all right, coach, just talk about your
Speaker 10: messaging to the team in there. Here comes the fourteenth
Speaker 10: ranked team in the country. Very well, coach, very good
Speaker 10: football team coming in. You guys get to win. What's
Speaker 10: the immediate message to those guys?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I just you know, number one, I said,
Speaker 7: I'm proud of you because the preparation, because it really
Speaker 7: is the preparation throughout the week and our mentality we
Speaker 7: talk about our process that we do each and every day,
Speaker 7: and we take it one day at a time. A
Speaker 7: lot of times people say, let's coach talk, but our
Speaker 7: guys bought into that. They've done a great job of
Speaker 7: taking care of their bodies and mentally preparing.
Speaker 4: But that's how you you're.
Speaker 7: Able to come out and you know what a thirty
Speaker 7: one to seven ball game because our guys were fired
Speaker 7: up mentally ready to go play. And I think that
Speaker 7: was obviously the difference to be able to hang on
Speaker 7: and get that win.
Speaker 10: First half, you guys ran it for ninety eight more
Speaker 10: yards than what they give up over the course of
Speaker 10: a game. What allowed you guys to be so dominant
Speaker 10: on the ground.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it started up front with their guys.
Speaker 7: You know, they coming off the ball making some blocks
Speaker 7: and I tell you it's the best I've seen our
Speaker 7: running backs this year at tyle Wee Broke. I don't
Speaker 7: know how many tackles today, was really trying to run
Speaker 7: over their defensive backs. And Evan Pryor Man, he has
Speaker 7: a great hit a great game as well. So both
Speaker 7: our running backs I thought did an excellent job. I
Speaker 7: thought Sowersby hit some good throws early in the game
Speaker 7: to get you know, make some big plays, and completion
Speaker 7: percentage wasn't there. But I think their running game really,
Speaker 7: you know, really stood out. I think in that first
Speaker 7: half for sure.
Speaker 10: Second half you guys up nine running the ball, the
Speaker 10: third and long, you take a chance eighty two yard
Speaker 10: pass to Caleb Goody. What went into that play calling?
Speaker 10: Obviously the execution you mentioned Sowersby wasn't as accurate all day,
Speaker 10: but he makes the biggest play of the day.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a huge Well, you know, obviously we
Speaker 7: were a little stagnant, I think offensive in the second half.
Speaker 2: And rhythm had to do with it. They had the ball,
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 7: Forever, and then we went to a run of penalties,
Speaker 7: you know, but I thought, right there we just needed
Speaker 7: another score. And you know, we saw man coverage right there.
Speaker 7: We had a play call that we've actually been running
Speaker 7: all year. It's been a really good play for us,
Speaker 7: and it happened to be man and we know Goodie
Speaker 7: on that on their safety was a good matchup for us.
Speaker 7: Thought Brendan the way a great ball. He put a
Speaker 7: lot of air under it and allowed Goodie to run
Speaker 7: underneath it. And the rest you know his history.
Speaker 10: You guys get Dante Corleone back on the defensive side
Speaker 10: of the ball, but they get a little momentum before
Speaker 10: the half and then they score the double dip coming
Speaker 10: out of the half. After that, your guy's defense was phenomenal,
Speaker 10: multiple fourth down stops. What changed? What was the adjustment
Speaker 10: that the defense was able to get off the field.
Speaker 7: Well, at the end of the first half, we were
Speaker 7: playing a little bit too loose coverage. You know, we
Speaker 7: were dropping everybody off. We're playing our safeties back because
Speaker 7: there wasn't much time left, just under a minute, and
Speaker 7: they had some some plays on us and got a
Speaker 7: couple of chunk plays. Next thing you know, they're down there.
Speaker 7: And then you mentioned they got a fourth down play.
Speaker 7: I think it hit two two point conversions today, and
Speaker 7: you know, the fourth downs were huge, and we got
Speaker 7: some timely stops today and we held them to a
Speaker 7: couple of field goal opportunities and this one, you know,
Speaker 7: But but I think overall, you know, the defense did
Speaker 7: enough to win the game for us. We had some
Speaker 7: big special teams play as well, two big returns to
Speaker 7: get it past midfield, you know, and we won the game.
Speaker 7: Even though you know, we had had that turnover, and
Speaker 7: I think that was a timely turnover for us. We
Speaker 7: had a good momentum right there on the plus territory.
Speaker 7: We had a good play and just bobble the pitch
Speaker 7: there on the option. But other than that, I mean, shoot,
Speaker 7: I thought we played outstanding.
Speaker 2: That's Tony Pike with University of Cincinnati Bearcats head football
Speaker 2: coach Scott Saderfield. Bearcat's now four and one overall, two
Speaker 2: and zero in the Big twelve. Hey, when we come back,
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna talk some Reds baseball with the
Speaker 2: voice of the Class A Dayton Dragons, Tom Nichols. I
Speaker 2: hope you'll stay tuned. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk
Speaker 2: with Joe Waddell, tonight's producer on seven hundred WLWY.
Speaker 4: Seven eight in.
Speaker 2: The Queens City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig seven WLW This
Speaker 2: is sports Talk. We're going all the way to nine
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight and we're carving out some time here to
Speaker 2: talk Cincinnati Reds baseball. And we're bringing in the director
Speaker 2: of broadcast and the voice of the Dayton Dragons, our
Speaker 2: good friend Tom Nichols. Tom, thanks so much for joining
Speaker 2: us tonight. How are you.
Speaker 11: I'm great, chick, Thanks for having me on your show tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. Are you getting any rest from that
Speaker 2: long minor league baseball season?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 11: I need some, that's for sure. We played one hundred
Speaker 11: and thirty two game schedule this year and that's a
Speaker 11: lot of games, not quite as many as the big
Speaker 11: league club when you talk about rest, Chick. We had
Speaker 11: a couple of late nights this week with the Reds
Speaker 11: being out on the West Coast in the playoffs, So
Speaker 11: those those were days where you tried to You went
Speaker 11: in the next morning a little bit tired, but things
Speaker 11: didn't go the way we hope, but good to see
Speaker 11: the team did qualify for the playoffs, of course.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And really three West Coast trips what
Speaker 2: like in the final month, so that that is really tough.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 11: It really was a tough schedule. It seemed like you
Speaker 11: kept hearing as you got towards that final month to
Speaker 11: six weeks if the Reds have the toughest schedule ahead
Speaker 11: of them of any club. And of course I think
Speaker 11: the four games sleep of the Cubs was probably the
Speaker 11: one that in the end put them over the top,
Speaker 11: but hopefully they got some you know, some good experience
Speaker 11: out of what took place, even though the end results
Speaker 11: were not what any of the fans or any of
Speaker 11: the players wanted. But maybe it's a step forward in
Speaker 11: the right direction heading into next year. And they've got
Speaker 11: a lot of decisions to make between now and the
Speaker 11: start of spring training next year based on the free
Speaker 11: agents they have and also some players that maybe could
Speaker 11: play multiple positions on the field that they have to
Speaker 11: make some decisions on where to put them to stack
Speaker 11: up the best lineup.
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Tom And And just looking back
Speaker 2: on the two games against the Los Angeles Dodgers, I
Speaker 2: really thought the first game was going to be difficult.
Speaker 2: They you know, they partied hardy on Sunday, and just
Speaker 2: two nights later here they're going into Chavez Ravine. I
Speaker 2: just thought the second game there, I thought they'd in
Speaker 2: a much better physical and mental approach to that to
Speaker 2: that game, and they did have their opportunities.
Speaker 11: You now, as I look back on it, I wonder
Speaker 11: if they've been able to clinch one day earlier and
Speaker 11: and not had to play that Sunday game against Milwaukee,
Speaker 11: and what at the time looked like a must wim situation.
Speaker 11: Of course, they lost that game but still made it
Speaker 11: because the Mets were shut out by the Marlins, but
Speaker 11: you had to use some people. And the Dodgers, meanwhile,
Speaker 11: they were able to prepare and and get their guys
Speaker 11: ready to go and line up their starting rotation, and
Speaker 11: the Reds weren't able really to do that. The Dodgers
Speaker 11: maybe had just a little bit more of a ability
Speaker 11: to get their guys rested and ready, and for the
Speaker 11: Reds it was just another extension of what was already
Speaker 11: a road trip to begin with. They were in Milwaukee
Speaker 11: and then had to fly to Los Angeles, and those
Speaker 11: West coast trips have always been hard for them. If
Speaker 11: you think back over the years, it's it's always been.
Speaker 5: A difficult.
Speaker 11: You look at the series they had with the Athletics,
Speaker 11: for ample, was a disaster and and that's not the
Speaker 11: first time that's happened over the years, and those are
Speaker 11: the tough trips for them. But again, the experience of
Speaker 11: playing in big games and and facing that kind of pressure,
Speaker 11: that's what you play the game, and that's really where
Speaker 11: major leagues minor league is the same thing. To be said,
Speaker 11: you developed my playing in big games and big moments,
Speaker 11: and you learn a little bit about yourself as a player,
Speaker 11: and uh, and you learn maybe how you stack up
Speaker 11: against some of the better teams and what you need
Speaker 11: to do to close that gap a little bit. And uh,
Speaker 11: you know, the situational hitting all year was a big problem,
Speaker 11: which was which was really a shame because they really
Speaker 11: prided on the fact that that was going to need
Speaker 11: to be a strength with situational hitting, taking advantage of
Speaker 11: your opportunities when you get guys in scoring position, get
Speaker 11: them in because they were not going to be a
Speaker 11: team that was going to hit a ton of home runs,
Speaker 11: so the situational hitting was going to have to carry
Speaker 11: them and that turned out to be a problem for
Speaker 11: a good part of the year. And so that's something
Speaker 11: going forward that they're really going to have to take
Speaker 11: to look at and figure out how to get more
Speaker 11: out of no.
Speaker 2: Doubt, and before we really delve into like the like
Speaker 2: the free agents that are common and everything, do you
Speaker 2: find yourself rooting for any team that's left alive here
Speaker 2: as you know, as the as the playoffs on fold
Speaker 2: here with the division series.
Speaker 11: Good question, Chick, Maybe as much rooting for as against
Speaker 11: in some cases, there are some teams I probably would
Speaker 11: prefer that they not be in the World Series, the
Speaker 11: Dodgers being at the top of it, as probably Yeah.
Speaker 11: And you know, when you're when you're a fan of
Speaker 11: a team that's in a small market by baseball standards,
Speaker 11: and you've got a payroll I think, what was it,
Speaker 11: something like one hundred and nineteen million, and the Dodgers
Speaker 11: were in the three fifty range and fifty million, So
Speaker 11: you just can't compete with that, and you've got to
Speaker 11: you know, that's Baseball's economic issue that's got to be
Speaker 11: corrected for for the fans, for the fairness of the teams.
Speaker 11: The other teams have salary caps. It's really a salary
Speaker 11: floor that we need more than anything. But to do that,
Speaker 11: you're going to have to put a whole system of
Speaker 11: revenue sharing in place. And so maybe this will happen
Speaker 11: at the next negotiating period, which is a year away.
Speaker 11: And I know that the Commissioner has talked pretty pretty
Speaker 11: aggressively about how much they do need to address the
Speaker 11: fact that you've got some team spending two hundred million
Speaker 11: dollars and more in excess of other teams and it's
Speaker 11: just really hard to compete, and it reminds you almost
Speaker 11: chick of a Now I came from a MAX school,
Speaker 11: so I can say this. It would it's it's like
Speaker 11: a MAX school that wins that conference championship and you're
Speaker 11: all excited and you go to March Madness and you
Speaker 11: play the number one seed and you lose by thirty points,
Speaker 11: and that's because you did the best you could do
Speaker 11: and and and that's kind of what it reminded me
Speaker 11: of a little bit. But nobody's going to give up,
Speaker 11: and they know no one's going to feel sorry for them,
Speaker 11: and you do what you can to try to close
Speaker 11: that gap and be better next year and keep taking
Speaker 11: steps forward and know for that to happen, I think
Speaker 11: one of the big things that's going to have to
Speaker 11: be part of it. And I said this at the
Speaker 11: start of the year, and I'll continue to say it.
Speaker 11: You've got to have players who are in essence, guys
Speaker 11: that carry your club when when you need them. In
Speaker 11: other words, you've got to have guys. When you look
Speaker 11: at the league leaders, you've got to have some guys
Speaker 11: all over the leaderboard. And I'm talking about categories like
Speaker 11: extra base hits, slugging percentage, home runs, you've got to
Speaker 11: got RBIs. You've got to have guys that you see
Speaker 11: their names all over the leaderboard to not have anyone
Speaker 11: on there. That might be a big credit to Terry
Speaker 11: Francona to be able to get what he got out
Speaker 11: of the team without having a true star player this year,
Speaker 11: and they still manage to win eighty three ball games
Speaker 11: and of course get some helping them bets to get
Speaker 11: into the playoffs. But you've got to figure out a
Speaker 11: way to have a star player for a small market team.
Speaker 11: That's a hard thing to do because you can't really
Speaker 11: it's hard to expect them to go out in free
Speaker 11: agency and outdid the Mets of the Dodgers for a
Speaker 11: star player. So you hope to get those players developed
Speaker 11: through your system. And of course they've got one coming
Speaker 11: up right now in South Stewart that I think has
Speaker 11: a chance to eventually be that kind of a player,
Speaker 11: that kind of number three year, number four hitter in
Speaker 11: your order that teams have to figure out a way
Speaker 11: to try to pitch around or just deal with. And
Speaker 11: he's got a chance, maybe hopefully and for the Reds
Speaker 11: to really ever become a team that can compete with
Speaker 11: the big boys. You've got to develop those guys like
Speaker 11: a South Stewart into a true star down the road
Speaker 11: at some point. If that never happens, it's really tough.
Speaker 2: Hey, Just to update the fans on the games going on,
Speaker 2: Like right now, the Phillies have a three to nothing
Speaker 2: lead over the Dodgers in the bottom of the second
Speaker 2: inning in Philadelphia. The Brewers have defeated the Chicago Cubs
Speaker 2: nine to three. In the Blue Jay have dispatched the
Speaker 2: Yankees here in their first game ten to one, and
Speaker 2: the Tigers and Mariners go tonight at eight thirty five. Souh.
Speaker 2: But anyway, just we will get to sal here in
Speaker 2: a minute. The uh, you know, looking at the unrestricted
Speaker 2: free agent lists here, Nick Martinez is twenty one million
Speaker 2: dollars is going to be, you know, finally off the board,
Speaker 2: it looks like. But there's Wade Miley, there's Emelio Pagan,
Speaker 2: zach Lettel Miguel and duhar uh and then some a
Speaker 2: mutual option here twelve million for Austin Hayes. That's uh, oh,
Speaker 2: that's a bit much. And Brent Soonter's got a three
Speaker 2: million dollars million mutual option, and there's also a I
Speaker 2: believe a club option out there on Scott Barlow. So
Speaker 2: you're exactly right, Tom Nichols. A lot of a tough
Speaker 2: decision to be made.
Speaker 11: Here, right, And those players that have options, just because
Speaker 11: you don't exercise the option doesn't mean you can't still
Speaker 11: resign the player. So a player like him Austin Hayes,
Speaker 11: I agree with you, that's a lot, probably more than
Speaker 11: he's worth to exercise that option. So he then just
Speaker 11: becomes a standard free agent, unrespected free agent, and you
Speaker 11: can at that point you can maybe try to see
Speaker 11: if you can come to an agreement and bring him
Speaker 11: back possibly if that's the direction they want to go.
Speaker 11: He gave them a lot of good moments this year.
Speaker 11: The guy I think, you know, there's a couple of
Speaker 11: guys on that list you just mentioned that are very interesting.
Speaker 11: I think Martina is probably gone. The reason is that
Speaker 11: he just doesn't fit what they need at a level
Speaker 11: that the salary is going to have to justify. So
Speaker 11: if he gets fifteen million a year, if you're a
Speaker 11: reliever making fifteen million a year, you better be a
Speaker 11: star closer. And that's not really the way the Reds
Speaker 11: like to use him. If you're a starter, you better
Speaker 11: be close to you better be a number probably a
Speaker 11: number two starter, And they really don't have an opening
Speaker 11: there for him that role. So but the guy, you know,
Speaker 11: a couple of guys I look at on that list.
Speaker 11: It's going to be interesting to see what they do
Speaker 11: with Andrew Harr. He's a guy that they picked up
Speaker 11: late in the just before the deadline from from the Athletics.
Speaker 4: They gave up a.
Speaker 11: Prospect to get him, and he really delivered big. I mean,
Speaker 11: that guy can just flat out hit. So I look
Speaker 11: at and I go, how much is he really going
Speaker 11: to cost to bring back on it? Maybe a one
Speaker 11: or two year deal. He's got some limitations. He's not
Speaker 11: a good defensive player. You can play him in left field.
Speaker 11: You probably could play him some at first base, but
Speaker 11: you really don't have a need for him to play
Speaker 11: first base. He's more of a d H type guy.
Speaker 11: But he hit what he hit for the Reds, like
Speaker 11: three point fifty or something like that in the time
Speaker 11: he was with the Reds, and so you know, maybe
Speaker 11: he's a guy you could get back for three to
Speaker 11: four million. Maybe I'm just taking a guest here. That
Speaker 11: would be a good economic bring back if he could
Speaker 11: get him there, because he was a middle part of
Speaker 11: the older kind of guy. And uh, it'll be interesting
Speaker 11: to see if they really want to do that. Again,
Speaker 11: he's got some limitations because he's not going to really
Speaker 11: help you as a as a defensive player, and he's
Speaker 11: not he's not a guy that you can use and
Speaker 11: expect him to do a lot of the basis he
Speaker 11: doesn't have great speed, but he can flat out hit.
Speaker 11: So that's an interesting decision they're going to have to
Speaker 11: make there is how much is too much? Uh, And
Speaker 11: and that's that's an interesting one. Emilia Pagan of course,
Speaker 11: also I think he made eight million this year. It
Speaker 11: make Bobby at least that you know, Tony Santion has
Speaker 11: shown that he probably is ready to take over that
Speaker 11: closer role. Codder Phillips I think showed that he could
Speaker 11: move in that eighth inning role. Bram Ashcraft maybe could
Speaker 11: could challenge for that also, hopefully or at least continue
Speaker 11: to be a seventh inning guy. You could probably overcome
Speaker 11: the loss of a Pagan if you thought that he
Speaker 11: was a little too expensive to bring back. And then
Speaker 11: you know, you talked about latel again probably going to
Speaker 11: be too pricey. Burns Chase Burns probably going to be
Speaker 11: a starter next year. See a rotation barring any injuries,
Speaker 11: is probably pretty well set with Green and Abbott, Lodolo,
Speaker 11: Singer and Burns. There's your starting five right there. So
Speaker 11: they may not bring let's all back. Who knows. Maybe
Speaker 11: they see it differently than I do, but I think
Speaker 11: I'm really looking at Andrew, Horror and Hayes and wondering
Speaker 11: how they feel about those two guys. How high would
Speaker 11: they go? And again, just because you don't exercise the
Speaker 11: option doesn't mean that you can't still go ahead and
Speaker 11: negotiate a deal.
Speaker 2: You're exactly right. And I'm eager to see what happens
Speaker 2: with the ret Louder and his health. And he's got
Speaker 2: to get healthy and see where he can be a
Speaker 2: part of this club because he's a tremendous talent and
Speaker 2: we never saw him this year.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 11: I mean, they've invested a first round pick in him,
Speaker 11: and he said, that's a guy. You need to be
Speaker 11: a star, not just a good player, but a star.
Speaker 11: And everything was point in the right direction. Then he
Speaker 11: missed the whole year with injuries, multiple injuries, nothing that
Speaker 11: would be too serious in terms of there's no surgery
Speaker 11: involved in tech. He's going to pitch in the Arizona
Speaker 11: Fall League, at least that's the plan at this point,
Speaker 11: and that would be good to see that happen and
Speaker 11: get him healthy, get him back on the mound, get
Speaker 11: some innings, make up for some lost time. And again,
Speaker 11: that's a guy you've invested a tremendous amount in in
Speaker 11: terms of draft capital. You used your first round pick
Speaker 11: on him. You need him to become a quality number two,
Speaker 11: number three starting pitcher. And so that by no means
Speaker 11: are you ready to give up on Louder.
Speaker 2: Tom Nichols is with us for a couple more minutes,
Speaker 2: the director of broadcasting and the voice of the Dayton Dragons,
Speaker 2: and we talk about Sal Stewart, what a spark he
Speaker 2: was when he finally got called up September one. He
Speaker 2: was a major reason why this team made the playoffs.
Speaker 11: You know, you've heard me talk about Sal for a
Speaker 11: lot long time because we had Salad Dayton, and I
Speaker 11: saw the skills south Stewart was not a player drafted
Speaker 11: where he was taken based on athleticism and tools. He
Speaker 11: was drafted where he was taken, which was supplemental first round,
Speaker 11: the picks between the first and second round, so somewhere
Speaker 11: around the I think thirty eighth pick or so, somewhere
Speaker 11: in that range. That's a high pick. That's a million
Speaker 11: dollars signing bonus or much more actually, more like two
Speaker 11: to three million. And he was taken based on baseball skills,
Speaker 11: which is what we like to see out there, a
Speaker 11: guy who actually can go out there and produce, and
Speaker 11: that's South Stewart. He's an extremely smart player. You saw
Speaker 11: his plate discipline. He struck out more times than you're
Speaker 11: going to see him strike out down the road in
Speaker 11: this short month or so with the Reds. He's not
Speaker 11: a guy that's got a lot of strikeouts, and that's
Speaker 11: something he'll correct. He is a flat out pure hitter,
Speaker 11: very smart player. As I mentioned, I asked him one time.
Speaker 11: I said, because it didn't take long when he out
Speaker 11: to Dayton to see that he had an extremely high
Speaker 11: baseball IQ. And I said, you had some great coaching
Speaker 11: somewhere along the way in terms of you know, his
Speaker 11: dad was a coach, but his dad was a basketball coach,
Speaker 11: so his baseball coach was was someone else, but he
Speaker 11: learned the game and plays the game at a very
Speaker 11: intelligent level, very aggressive, plays with a chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 11: And you know, I asked him one time, Chick about
Speaker 11: the fact that when he was drafted, the day he
Speaker 11: was crafted, everybody was saying he's going to have to
Speaker 11: move to first base. And Sal's attitude at that time was,
Speaker 11: those are people that don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 11: And he is a lot more athletic than people give
Speaker 11: him credit for. He saw some diving catches, you saw
Speaker 11: some good defensive plays. Now he's not at Cabrian Hayes
Speaker 11: by any means, but he can play third, he can
Speaker 11: play first will I'm sure, even though he thought that
Speaker 11: was a terrible idea of moving the first base when
Speaker 11: he was drafted. If you said Sal, you can play
Speaker 11: first base in the big league, they'd say, I'll play
Speaker 11: first base. But where they put him next year is
Speaker 11: going to be a very very interesting decision because it's
Speaker 11: going to depend a little bit on who comes back
Speaker 11: and who and where there's a spot. I would say,
Speaker 11: in my opinion that if everyone came back, he's your
Speaker 11: everyday first baseman and you play Spencer Steer probably in
Speaker 11: left field or somewhere. Steers capable of playing a lot
Speaker 11: of positions, but South Stewart's the guy that I think
Speaker 11: is your future star. Get him in the lineup every
Speaker 11: day at one position and make him a guy that's
Speaker 11: going to lift you to that level someday down the
Speaker 11: road where you can you can compete with the big boys,
Speaker 11: the Dodgers and the Phillies and so forth. And Tom,
Speaker 11: that's want to be an interesting decision.
Speaker 2: It really will be. Gosh, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your time. We've got to run. Really appreciate it and
Speaker 2: we'll catch up soon. Thank you. Tom Nichols, the director
Speaker 2: of broadcasting and the voice of the Dayton Dragons. This
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk seven hundred WLW seven thirty
Speaker 2: eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati. This is Chick
Speaker 2: Ludwigs Sports Talk until nine o'clock tonight. And my next
Speaker 2: guest is a Cincinnati Bengals offensive lineman legend, an offensive
Speaker 2: lineman legend for the Cincinnati Bengals, and he joins me
Speaker 2: as a co host tomorrow night Bengals postgame sports Talk
Speaker 2: at Wings and Rings, Crestview Hills, Kentucky. Twenty eight oh
Speaker 2: nine Dixie Highway. Come on out and meet the Chickster
Speaker 2: and my next guest, the one and only Bruce Kazerski.
Speaker 2: Cause how are we doing tonight.
Speaker 4: Chick I'm doing great, great, great to hear from you.
Speaker 4: Always nice to talk to you. You're crazy. You got
Speaker 4: some great fans. Let's get this going.
Speaker 2: Fantastic man, And I told the fans out there, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have some fun tonight. And Bruce, it's funny how
Speaker 2: one play can change a game. And I'm looking at
Speaker 2: the Denver Bengals game and the Bengals are driving. They're
Speaker 2: down seven to three of what a thirty plus yard
Speaker 2: passed the t Higgins, and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 2: called back because Amarius Mims is just a little too
Speaker 2: far off the line of scrimmage, a penalty that refs
Speaker 2: never called, but it might be a point of emphasis
Speaker 2: this year. And it just seemed like at that point
Speaker 2: then the penalty started coming and the Bengals went right downhill.
Speaker 2: It was brutal to watch. And they've got to come back.
Speaker 4: To call that the Kansas City rule. They got a
Speaker 4: right tackle, who's off the ball every play? Yes, all right?
Speaker 4: And he's illegal because he's technically moving every play, and
Speaker 4: so if the league doesn't stop it, then it's only
Speaker 4: gonna get worse. That's the way the league works. It
Speaker 4: gets worse. Yes, And so we got one in a
Speaker 4: situation where he knew. You know what, I got no
Speaker 4: sympathy for the guy because he knew that that was
Speaker 4: going to be called eventually. Now guys get what they can.
Speaker 4: They still they want to get every advance they possibly can.
Speaker 4: Was he warned, That's the question. Was he warned that
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a penalty? Hey, you got to get
Speaker 4: up on the ball. I'm gonna call this. Because if
Speaker 4: he was warned and it was still called, I got nothing.
Speaker 4: I got nothing for him.
Speaker 2: Bruce Kazerski. When I think of the STEM and we're
Speaker 2: talking science, technology, engineering, and math, I think of you
Speaker 2: and the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just an incredible career and using all that math as
Speaker 2: a head football coach at Holy Cross High School in
Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky. And Man, all I know is the Bengals
Speaker 2: have to give a supreme effort tomorrow because if they
Speaker 2: look like they did the last two weeks on the
Speaker 2: road at home here tomorrow, are we gonna see torches
Speaker 2: and pitchforks on the way down to pay Course Stadium.
Speaker 4: I can tell you don't look for sympathy in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Don't look for sympathy from anybody to let alone then
Speaker 4: Campbell under the Detroit Lions. They're gonna come in here
Speaker 4: and they're gonna put up every point they can possibly
Speaker 4: put up. They're gonna go for every fourth down they
Speaker 4: could possibly make, and they are gonna try to bury you.
Speaker 4: And if we're not up to the challenge, if our
Speaker 4: linemen on both sides of the ball don't grow up
Speaker 4: become men, it's gonna be ugly. I mean they're they're
Speaker 4: grown men, and they're and they're playing hard, but there's
Speaker 4: something missing. There's something missing, whether it's the coordination or
Speaker 4: the intensity, but there's something missing. Now you can call
Speaker 4: it Joe Burrow. You can say you can talk about
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow being being absolent, being missing, but but you
Speaker 4: know what, he didn't get any time, So why wouldn't
Speaker 4: we expect this guy to get any time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake Browning, And if.
Speaker 4: You can't run the ball in this league, at any level,
Speaker 4: you got really no chance.
Speaker 2: I always thought that an offensive lineman loves to go
Speaker 2: forward and not backward. And don't you love to run block?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, and you and I heard your interview.
Speaker 2: It was fantastic with Dave Lapham in the Trenches the
Speaker 2: podcast first our logistics and you talk about this being
Speaker 2: a mono imano in the trenches kind of sport.
Speaker 4: This it is. First of all, I want to congraduate
Speaker 4: day want a tremendous curve career and going into the
Speaker 4: ring of and honor fame. That's that's fantastic. Good for him.
Speaker 4: There's more, there's more guys, plenty of guys qualified, but
Speaker 4: he's he's certainly at the top of that that mountain.
Speaker 4: He's as he was a fantastic player, and he's there's
Speaker 4: no nobody else dies orange or or bleeds orange like David.
Speaker 4: He's just fantastic. I love he listened to him and
Speaker 4: he's a great friend of mine. But he deserves everything
Speaker 4: he gets now. In terms of absolutely, if you can't
Speaker 4: win your one on one battles, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: You you can't double team in this league. They send
Speaker 4: enough bodies at the quarterback to make you block Manham.
Speaker 4: That's why they do it. Back in the day, they
Speaker 4: they'd rush three or four guys. Maybe they blit occasionally,
Speaker 4: but nowadays they're putting eight guys in the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: If you can't and figure out who's coming who's not,
Speaker 4: you can't. You can't do it, and you have to
Speaker 4: do it on a fly because they're sending a like
Speaker 4: I said, they're they're coming from all different angles and
Speaker 4: everybody can rush the quarterback anymore.
Speaker 2: And I'm seeing opposing running backs get to the outside.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing wide receivers settle into zone coverage, uh wide open,
Speaker 2: and our passes on offense, everything seems to be contested
Speaker 2: and towards the sidelines. So it's, uh yeah, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: Something is missing. And I just want to see great
Speaker 2: effort tomorrow because would they be so NFL like if
Speaker 2: the Bengals pull the upset on the Lions, it would
Speaker 2: just be so.
Speaker 4: It would be it sho. I appreciate. I appreciate slowing
Speaker 4: the offense down early in the game, finding out what
Speaker 4: they could possibly do against you. Giving them yard is
Speaker 4: giving them yards. When you're get in the red zone,
Speaker 4: you hold and go Fieterbal. I can appreciate that for years,
Speaker 4: that's the way the game was played. But your defense
Speaker 4: is not matching your offense, and your offense is not
Speaker 4: helping your defense. I mean, there was a game not
Speaker 4: too long ago where we gave up more points than
Speaker 4: our offense than our defense did. Yes, and so what
Speaker 4: I'm saying is, and you know, I think the Bengals
Speaker 4: have to be more aggressive on defense early because their
Speaker 4: offense is struggling with so much Early. If the offense
Speaker 4: struggles and the defense plays safe and gives up yards
Speaker 4: after the yards after yards, offensually are going to give
Speaker 4: field goals or eventually they're going to give a touchdown,
Speaker 4: and now we're in the whole. I think the defense,
Speaker 4: I like the scheme. I think they're playing well times,
Speaker 4: but I think early in the game they need to
Speaker 4: be more aggressive and get after the quarterback and get
Speaker 4: after the running games. Sometimes these blitzes are run defense
Speaker 4: are run blitz. Yes, you can't sit in the l
Speaker 4: you can't sit there anymore and run a basic four
Speaker 4: man front, three linebackers and stop the run because there's
Speaker 4: too many gimmicks out there. You have to get after
Speaker 4: it and play the run in the backfield. And you
Speaker 4: know we've been playing it safe because Joe Burrow is
Speaker 4: gonna score a lot of points. Well, this is not
Speaker 4: Joe's offense anymore, at least not for three months. I
Speaker 4: hope he come back. I hope we're still in the
Speaker 4: race when he does come back.
Speaker 2: And you're right, because yeah, we're.
Speaker 4: In it when he does come back. We got a chance.
Speaker 2: And you're right, Bruce Kazerski. If you can't run the
Speaker 2: football in this league, you're you're in trouble because no team,
Speaker 2: no team that's passing forty and fifty times a game,
Speaker 2: is going to win.
Speaker 4: I can tell you, I can tell you right now
Speaker 4: that we were great pass blockers because we were amazing
Speaker 4: run blockers. That's the bottom line. If you look at
Speaker 4: the at the the three years that we were the
Speaker 4: best offensive line of football, it's because we could run
Speaker 4: the ball and you knew it was coming and you
Speaker 4: couldn't stop it. We put two forty on Seattle in
Speaker 4: the playoff game and they couldn't stop it. They had
Speaker 4: the lineman that Joe Nash laid on the ground to
Speaker 4: stop our running game on the third down. He wouldn't
Speaker 4: let us. He would pretend he was hurt. I know
Speaker 4: Joe from college. I was a Joe. That's embarrassing, he said,
Speaker 4: I know college, but the coaches telling me to do
Speaker 4: it because they couldn't stop our running game. They had
Speaker 4: no chance in our play action passes none.
Speaker 2: And Boomer was the best at that, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: He was fantastic. That. Yeah, it's not it's not just
Speaker 4: it's not just automatic. Boomer was great. Dam would stand
Speaker 4: twenty yards downfield behind our defense and he would tell
Speaker 4: us every day he said, if I can see it,
Speaker 4: the defense could see it. If it's it's not good
Speaker 4: enough if they can see it. So he would have
Speaker 4: is running over and over and over until a defense
Speaker 4: couldn't see the ball. Fake Bruce, that was perfection.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Bruce Gazerski played for the Bengals from nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty four to nineteen ninety five, twelve years and as
Speaker 2: a ninth round draft pick. Today, Bruce, gosh, you'd be
Speaker 2: an undrafted college free agent at a holy Cross.
Speaker 4: Be a free agent, got to be a free agent
Speaker 4: and getting what and what kind of look would I've gotten?
Speaker 4: You know? I thank God every day And Jim McNally
Speaker 4: has become a very close friend of mine and everybody
Speaker 4: that played for him. He is an amazing man. Jim
Speaker 4: McNally was our offensive line coach and you know, chick
Speaker 4: something you don't know maybe Mammy. Many don't know by
Speaker 4: Jim McNally, but he was. He was a college coach
Speaker 4: the year that Marshall plane crashed. He was the first
Speaker 4: offensive line coach hired after the plane crash. Wow, he was.
Speaker 4: He was on site right after the plane crash and
Speaker 4: he led that program back with his offensive toy and
Speaker 4: he did the same thing here. He drafted Anthony Munios
Speaker 4: was the first round pick. But you go down to
Speaker 4: the rest of that group. Bruce Reimers was a seventh
Speaker 4: round pick. I was a ninth round pick. Max Montoya
Speaker 4: was a sixth round pick. Joe Walters was a sixth
Speaker 4: round pick. And you know what, it's not where you're pick,
Speaker 4: it's how you play. He made us better. He made
Speaker 4: us better.
Speaker 2: And man, what are we expecting tomorrow? They've got two
Speaker 2: fantastic running backs, a quarterback that likes to throw the ball,
Speaker 2: just tremendous versatility, great balance, and we're gonna the Bengals're
Speaker 2: gonna have to match that and match their physicality.
Speaker 4: Because they can run the ball, they can throw it
Speaker 4: at anybody. You know, Amina Ross Brown is a great
Speaker 4: a great receiver they have. They have several fantastic receivers.
Speaker 4: But what makes them more dynamic is the fact that
Speaker 4: they have two great running backs and an offensive line
Speaker 4: as good as there is. Those guys know how to
Speaker 4: plow the road. We're coming through and you can't stop us.
Speaker 4: That right tackle. I'm glad we took Jamarches. Don't get
Speaker 4: me wrong, but that right tackle was worthy of a
Speaker 4: first round pick.
Speaker 2: Yes, then a sewell, no doubt. So, yes, he really
Speaker 2: is and hard to say what to expect, but to
Speaker 2: know going in that you are a ten and a
Speaker 2: half point home underdog. That makes me if I ever gambled,
Speaker 2: which I don't, I would put some coin on the Bengals,
Speaker 2: at least the cover. But it'd be so like the
Speaker 2: NFL toa have the Bengals win tomorrow because it's any
Speaker 2: given Sunday.
Speaker 4: Well you know, check the that's one hundred percent true,
Speaker 4: and you would expect the Bengals to cover. But my
Speaker 4: concern and I follow the lines a lot because one
Speaker 4: of their linebackers played for me at holy Cross and Covington.
Speaker 4: Derek Barnes, he's a phenomenal player. And I guarantee you
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell was telling those guys all the way long,
Speaker 4: this is the league where there is no mercy. We're
Speaker 4: coming after the Bengals. We're gonna We're gonna get out
Speaker 4: there and if we can score a hundred, we're gonna
Speaker 4: score a hundred and and that's just the way it is.
Speaker 4: And they have a firm belief that they can stop anybody,
Speaker 4: and they can put points upon anybody. And that's why
Speaker 4: they're gonna compete for a world championship this year. That's
Speaker 4: how good they can be now. And the Bengals match
Speaker 4: that intensity tomorrow. Can the offensive line play good enough
Speaker 4: tomorrow to give the quarterback a chance to throw? Can
Speaker 4: they block some running plays, give them some room to run.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be the challenge. That's gonna be the challenge.
Speaker 2: Yep, because they've got to get Chase Brown going, there's
Speaker 2: no doubt, because he's a.
Speaker 4: Hundred yards in five games or four games.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, brutal, and then it's going.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm praying for this team. I love the Bengals.
Speaker 4: I love the organization. I hope they do well. It's
Speaker 4: exciting when they win. It's you know, water cooler fodder.
Speaker 4: You know, every time they win, you talk about the
Speaker 4: Bengals all week long and the week goes faster at work.
Speaker 4: But right now they got to play better because they
Speaker 4: don't have an easy game on the schedule. It's the NFL.
Speaker 4: Everybody's good.
Speaker 2: When you win, that week goes by like three days.
Speaker 2: When you lose, it feels like two weeks.
Speaker 4: It feels like two weeks. It really does, no matter
Speaker 4: what job you have, No matter what job you have.
Speaker 4: If you're a football fan, you know the years, for
Speaker 4: years and years and years, and when the Reds were bad,
Speaker 4: you'd say, God, I can't wait the football season start.
Speaker 4: Well now, actually the Reds made the playoffs, so you're
Speaker 4: excited a little bit now they lost, But the Bengals are.
Speaker 4: They just got to prove something this week. This is
Speaker 4: a statement game. They got to come out and prove
Speaker 4: something this week.
Speaker 2: No doubt, because they've got talent. There's no doubt. What
Speaker 2: bothers me is watching a little bit of film and
Speaker 2: seeing a three man Denver front and the two defensive
Speaker 2: ends meet at the quarterback with a three man front,
Speaker 2: just a three man rush, and the two the two
Speaker 2: defensive ends meet at Jake Browning blowing right past the
Speaker 2: offensive tackles, and well, I hate to say a team
Speaker 2: is I hate to say a team is soft or
Speaker 2: the Bengals soft.
Speaker 4: If you draw an X in the backfield and say
Speaker 4: our quarterback is going to be standing right here, come
Speaker 4: and get them. They're going to get them. Whether they
Speaker 4: rush three or four guys, they're going to come and
Speaker 4: get them. If you move your quarterback different spots, the
Speaker 4: run action passes, the play action pass. But how does
Speaker 4: the run action work or a play action work when
Speaker 4: there's no running game?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Ib you go for a third and one in shotgun?
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you got to run ten yards to get
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can't. You can't. There's too much patrations.
Speaker 4: You can't people long enough to not tackle him in
Speaker 4: the backfield. Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot to look forward to tomorrow to watch and listen.
Speaker 2: And then we're on at from nine to eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings normally closes at ten on Sundays, but
Speaker 2: they are staying open for us in Cresview Hills. Come
Speaker 2: on out meet the Great Bruce Kazerski twenty eighth nine
Speaker 2: Dixie Highway, Say hi to the Chickster and get Bruce
Speaker 2: Kazerski's autographed tomorrow night, nine to eleven, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: have some fun. We're gonna break it down like a
Speaker 2: wrecking ball.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be there. I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: You know, I got things going during today. My grandson's
Speaker 4: a baseball player. I'm gonna watch get home in time
Speaker 4: to watch the Bengals game. I hope they win. They
Speaker 4: will have a whole bunch to talk about. Exciting and
Speaker 4: AR will have a you know, we'll have to have
Speaker 4: a beverage and say, hey, chick this goouna be a
Speaker 4: long ear buddy.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And we will break it down like a
Speaker 2: wrecking ball and we will be running through walls with
Speaker 2: snot bubbles for Jimmy Anderson.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We we just hope we can be complimentary. Yes,
Speaker 4: that would be ultimate, the complimentary. They played great today,
Speaker 4: they won the game. It'd be a great team, fantastic
Speaker 4: we're on the road. That'll be great.
Speaker 2: Huge, absolutely huge. Bruce, You've been kind with your time.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much and look forward to working with
Speaker 2: you tomorrow night.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, see tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Thank you. Bruce Kozerski twelve years a Cincinnati
Speaker 2: Bengal on a great offensive line that made the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight Super Bowl. He played for the Bengals from
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four through nineteen ninety five on a great,
Speaker 2: great offensive line with Anthony Munoz, Max Montoya, Bruce Rymers,
Speaker 2: Joe Walter. Awesome. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk. Get ready.
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Speaker 2: and we start tonight with Lincoln in Covedale. Lincoln, Hello, check, fantastic.
Speaker 2: Are you ready for Reverse Radio?
Speaker 9: I absolutely am, and check if you don't mind. Two
Speaker 9: very good friends of mine asked me to say hello
Speaker 9: to you. You're cousins Julie and Jennifer.
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Hey, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 9: Okay, well, I told him I've been calling in and
Speaker 9: they said, just ask me, would you talk high?
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my dad was one of thirteen. So
Speaker 2: I've got cousins, nephews, nieces all over the place. Fantastic, wonderful. Okay,
Speaker 2: are you ready for the first for your question?
Speaker 9: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: If you could have an all expense paid and a
Speaker 2: ticket to any sporting event in the world, what would
Speaker 2: it be? And why?
Speaker 9: Oh, any trip all spender's paid one ticket.
Speaker 2: Or two tickets, you can take a guest. Yeah, where
Speaker 2: would you like to go?
Speaker 9: Or two tickets? Well, check you out from on the
Speaker 9: West Side. And I love baseball and it would be
Speaker 9: to the world to a World Series game with me
Speaker 9: and my wife.
Speaker 2: How about a game seven World Series?
Speaker 9: That would be it fantastically and preferably the Reds.
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt about that. Fantastic stuff. Lincoln, appreciate you.
Speaker 9: Well, I appreciate talking to you, and I'll talk to
Speaker 9: you next time.
Speaker 2: Fantastic Lincoln, Thank you so much. All Right, Sue is
Speaker 2: on the line. Me, Sue, how are you.
Speaker 12: Well, I'm doing fun, but I'm sort of got TV
Speaker 12: on and you so pop the question. I'll see if
Speaker 12: I can answer it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know that you are a Cincinnati fan, okay,
Speaker 2: sports fan.
Speaker 5: Mh.
Speaker 2: You love the Reds and I would imagine and I
Speaker 2: would imagine you like the Bengals.
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, but I'm more uh curious with the Reds
Speaker 12: the Bengals just as long as they win. And you
Speaker 12: have a good outing over in Elsmere, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Well, it's in Cresview. Hills tomorrow from nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: PP.
Speaker 12: Well, there's so many Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: All right. Would you prefer a World Series championship for
Speaker 2: your Cincinnati Reds or a Super Bowl title after three
Speaker 2: losses by the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 12: Well, I guess since the Reds did lose, I'm not.
Speaker 12: Hopefully the Bengals do get to the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 12: they've got to watch the number are games that they
Speaker 12: lose now and also why, I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 12: I'm very disappointed at Chicago loss today. That's that's my
Speaker 12: act question and answer. Either or I'm disappointed in the
Speaker 12: rest because I stayed up almost till twelve thirty and
Speaker 12: one o'clock.
Speaker 2: You're a loyal fan, all right, Sue, Hey, appreciate you.
Speaker 12: You're tired today, but anyway, take care.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much. Awesome, Okay, all right, bye bye. Now, Hey,
Speaker 2: we've got Grandpa Mike on the line from the gem
Speaker 2: city of Dayton, Ohio. How are you, Grandpa Mike? How
Speaker 2: are you sure?
Speaker 5: Sory? Are you doing buddy?
Speaker 2: All fantastic?
Speaker 5: I'm doing great. I'm sitting up here at Deeds Park
Speaker 5: right by the founds here in downtown Dayton and joint life.
Speaker 2: Wonderful, wonderful. So you're doing good, amen, I'm on.
Speaker 5: The air having related seventy first birthday.
Speaker 2: Oh, thanks so much. Yeah, approaching seventy, approaching seventy.
Speaker 5: Yeah you're July, Yes, sir, Mine dog Mine's August twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. All right, are you ready for your question? Grandpa?
Speaker 2: If you could have, if you could hang with any
Speaker 2: athlete for a day, present or past, who would it be?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, that's tough hang with any athlete.
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, chick, I've seen I've met a lot.
Speaker 4: Of guys in my life.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: And you may remember I talked to like guys. I
Speaker 5: got guys or in Dragons now double at play, I
Speaker 5: still talk to Hunter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, man, I knew unitis. Any athlete I could hang
Speaker 5: with for a day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man.
Speaker 5: Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 2: Quick story about Muhammad Ali at the nineteen ninety nine
Speaker 2: Super Bowl in Atlanta. Okay, you made him no, no close? Okay.
Speaker 2: At the nineteen ninety nine Super Bowl in Atlanta, naturally,
Speaker 2: the night before the game, everyone's out at dinner, come
Speaker 2: back to the team hotel and the media center, and
Speaker 2: luckily I'm wearing my credentials, okay, because there's yellow caution tape,
Speaker 2: police tape all over the place around the media headquarters. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I get inside, work my way down to the
Speaker 2: media romee and off in a corner watching tell Vision
Speaker 2: in front of about anywhere from fifty to one hundred
Speaker 2: sports writers and broadcasters sitting on a couch is Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: That would have been awesome.
Speaker 2: Man, just to be there. Yeah, just being there and
Speaker 2: just watching him, you know it was. It was awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's why so cool. There was security everywhere, yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'd love to talk to you about some
Speaker 5: red stuff, some of the ideas I have, but I
Speaker 5: know you don't have time for that. You get your
Speaker 5: show to do, you know what. Lay it on me,
Speaker 5: all right, Uh they need to Uh okay, you know
Speaker 5: me being here dating every work at stadium, I'm still
Speaker 5: at bricks and all that. And I talked to these guys.
Speaker 5: I talked to John Michael Fail, I still talk to
Speaker 5: Ruben Jay, Allen cam Collier. I don't talk. I don't
Speaker 5: talk to the guys in the reds Ofphine because they
Speaker 5: got okay, they got you guys and all the other
Speaker 5: media they don't need an old man like me. Now, boy,
Speaker 5: wasn't the media doing broadcasting, I'd be questioning them like crazy.
Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, but anyway, Uh, they gotta make some trades.
Speaker 5: They guy, they they have so many and I've seen
Speaker 5: it in the past four or five years. They have
Speaker 5: so many of the same type player. Look at a ball,
Speaker 5: double a triple A. Uh, he was the majors. They
Speaker 5: got guys they can plug in and might do well
Speaker 5: for a while, but they don't have that outstanding guy
Speaker 5: rage just jump in.
Speaker 2: You need that difference maker.
Speaker 5: But you got guys that have potential to be really
Speaker 5: good ballplayers, so you trade some of them. They got,
Speaker 5: they got so much talent. Their farm sits and believe
Speaker 5: it or not, they told no one to the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Chat Neuga w into the playoffs. The Dragons won eighteen
Speaker 5: of the last nineteen games this year. Yeah, and Louisville
Speaker 5: they were like ten twelve games under five Blarner. But
Speaker 5: that's fine. But they had people going back and forth
Speaker 5: all the time. You never know who you're playing with,
Speaker 5: right right, Yes, you really don't. But they make some trades.
Speaker 5: I put Ellien Center, Ellien Center. It was Freedo left,
Speaker 5: leave Marte and right. If you going to keep McLean,
Speaker 5: move him to short. I don't care if he had
Speaker 5: two hundred. Remember growing up in Baltimore, I remember when
Speaker 5: Mark Lelanger played short for the Orioles. It was a
Speaker 5: two twenty hitter. Yeah, the guy was a great defender
Speaker 5: and he had many great times where nobody expect him
Speaker 5: to come through.
Speaker 4: But he did.
Speaker 5: And that's that's McLean. That's McLean.
Speaker 2: Well he needs a bounce back year, that's for sure,
Speaker 2: and hopefully he can get it. And Mike, I got
Speaker 2: a run. I appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate it. Buddy, you'd be safe.
Speaker 4: And you're Dayton.
Speaker 5: Come see me at bricks. I'm there most of the time.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm the mascot, theren Now.
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, Thanks so much man. Bricks Bricks Ice Company
Speaker 2: right across from uh Day air Ballpark in downtown Dayton.
Speaker 2: Great place. Sure, it's a great day. Thank you you too. Hey,
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Speaker 2: And I'm turning to tonight's producer, Shoeless Joe Waddell. Joe,
Speaker 2: are you ready? How are you doing? Chick fantastic? All right?
Speaker 2: Four players Joe in Major League Baseball history have hit
Speaker 2: seven hundred home runs or more? Can you name them?
Speaker 2: Barry Bond's got me number one? Right? He is number one? Yes,
Speaker 2: So let's see you got Barry Bonds.
Speaker 14: Hmm oh Babe, Ruth, duh, yes, Barry Bonds, Babe, Ruth.
Speaker 14: Let's think here, we think of more modern or old school?
Speaker 2: Old school? He is deceased. The next one on my
Speaker 2: list here that wouldn't happen to be one, Henry Aaron
Speaker 2: what it? Yes, it would Barry Bonds is first at
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty two Hammer and Hank Aaron is second.
Speaker 2: It's seven fifty five. Babe Ruth is at seven fourteen.
Speaker 2: Can you name the fourth Major League baseball player two
Speaker 2: hit at least seven hundred home runs? I'm gonna cheat again,
Speaker 2: and we think of modern or old school? He recently retired,
Speaker 2: but pretty modern. He'll be headed to the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame on a first ballot, first ballot, Hall of Famers.
Speaker 2: And here's a clue. Here's a clue. Saint Louis Cardinals
Speaker 2: and the Los Angeles Angels. Oh, Albert Pooles, stuh, you
Speaker 2: got it?
Speaker 14: Alb Pools, Yeah, that dude, Oh my god, Yes, I
Speaker 14: can't believe I didn't get that sooner.
Speaker 2: A monster, a monster. And while I've got you here,
Speaker 2: now that the Reds have been eliminated from playoff contention,
Speaker 2: who do you like in the American League and who
Speaker 2: do you like in the National League to reach the
Speaker 2: World Series?
Speaker 14: To reach the World Series? Well, I'll start in the
Speaker 14: American League. I think this is the year. I don't
Speaker 14: know why, it's just a feeling. I think this is
Speaker 14: the year the Seattle Mariners finally do it. I don't
Speaker 14: know what it is. It's just someone's got me feeling
Speaker 14: Seattle out of the AL.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously cal Rawley's having a really special.
Speaker 14: Season, but they made a lot of really good moves
Speaker 14: at the deadline to add to their depth.
Speaker 2: I really like Seattle.
Speaker 14: The l's a little bit tougher, just because I think
Speaker 14: it's in general, a little bit tougher of a league.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, h you got Brewers beat the Cubs today nine
Speaker 2: to three, and the Phillies have a three to nothing
Speaker 2: lead over the Dodgers in the top of the third
Speaker 2: inning in Philly.
Speaker 14: I think normally I feel like you'd have to say
Speaker 14: the Dodgers, but their bullpen, even against you know, the Reds,
Speaker 14: really proved to be a weakness. I'm not sure they
Speaker 14: have the pen to get them there. I like Philadelphia,
Speaker 14: so I'm gonna go Philadelphia versus Seattle World Series.
Speaker 2: Okay, I do like the Phillies. That's who I'm rooting
Speaker 2: for because of one Kyle Schwarber, proud Hoosier, Yes, a
Speaker 2: proud Hoosier, Middletown's favorite son. I got to meet Kyle
Speaker 2: at a wedding reception in November of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: the most down to earth superstar on the planet. Believe me,
Speaker 2: he is amazing, just amazing.
Speaker 14: Walk past him at Kilroys on Kirkwood in Bloomington. I
Speaker 14: was didn't talk to him, but you know, still, you
Speaker 14: walking past someone like that, that's count for something, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to be that guy to you know,
Speaker 2: google overhim and everything. But I approached him at the bar.
Speaker 2: He got a soda and so did I and he
Speaker 2: I introduced myself. He goes, Chick, I know who you are,
Speaker 2: you know, So it was really cool and we had
Speaker 2: a couple selfies taken together. Just a phenomenal guy. And
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Seattle Mariners at ninety and seventy two.
Speaker 2: I've got to go with the Tigers because of John Warden,
Speaker 2: my great friend who pitched for the Tigers in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty eight when they won it all. So great stuff there, Joe.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Yeah, appreciate you letting me hop on Chick Fantastic. Hey,
Speaker 2: it's Reverse Radio five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand,
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Speaker 15: Cats at their own eighteen yard line sort he catches
Speaker 15: the shot gun snap. He's looking to throw cloats at
Speaker 15: high and deep down for your stody with a catch,
Speaker 15: crazy enough forty thirty, twenty fifty.
Speaker 13: Down, five touchdown. There cat eighty two yards and it
Speaker 13: takes your one.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 16: Kennedy flags coun believable. What a throw from Brendan Soresby.
Speaker 16: He's been off a couple times today on that deep ball.
Speaker 16: Couldn't place it any better on that one. They took
Speaker 16: the aggressiveness of Iowa State, especially on the back end.
Speaker 2: The safety comes.
Speaker 10: Up good, he gets over the top, Soresby lays it
Speaker 10: up and the rest is history.
Speaker 2: What an unbelievable throw at the biggest moment in the
Speaker 2: game from Brendan Soresby. That's Dan Horde and Tony Pike
Speaker 2: on the Bearcats Radio Network today on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Is the Cincinnati Bearcats defeat the fourteenth ranked Iowa State
Speaker 2: Cyclones thirty eight to thirty at Knippert Stadium, and as
Speaker 2: soon as the clock time expired, students poured out onto
Speaker 2: the field at Nippert. Just a phenomenal atmosphere today on
Speaker 2: a beautiful day for football at Knippert Stadium. In the
Speaker 2: Bearcats win, and in that game you see led late
Speaker 2: first half thirty one to seven, but Iowa State got
Speaker 2: the double dip the scoring a touchdown on an untimed
Speaker 2: play with no time left in the second quarter, got
Speaker 2: the two point conversion, and then scored again on the
Speaker 2: first drive of the third quarter to make this a
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty two game. And with seven forty
Speaker 2: to play, with the Bearcats nursing that thirty one to
Speaker 2: twenty two lead, U See's defense stops rock O Becked,
Speaker 2: Iowa State's quarterback on a fourth and one play at
Speaker 2: UC sixteen yard line was seven forty to go, and
Speaker 2: then on the ensuing drive eighty two yards from Brendan
Speaker 2: Soresby to Caleb Goody, giving the Bearcats a thirty eight
Speaker 2: to twenty two lead. Iowa State scores late, gets the
Speaker 2: two point conversion you see gets the on side kick
Speaker 2: couldn't quite run out the clock, they had to punt
Speaker 2: the ball and then on the final play of the game.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for Iowa State to start later, latering the
Speaker 2: football in an attempt to score, but the tight end
Speaker 2: ran out of bounds. Game over. You see wins thirty
Speaker 2: eight to thirty. You see back in action next Saturday
Speaker 2: at noon at home against UCF Central Florida and Hey,
Speaker 2: on this date in Red's history, October fourth, let's go
Speaker 2: way back to nineteen oh two, the Reds play what
Speaker 2: you would call a farcical game against the Pirates in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati players did not want to play because a morning
Speaker 2: rain turned the field into a quagmire a swamp, but
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh owner Barney Dreyfus, however, insisted on playing, and Red's
Speaker 2: manager Joe Kelly played most of his players at a
Speaker 2: position in retaliation, outfielders Mike Donlin and Cy Seymour and
Speaker 2: first baseman Jake Beckley. They were the pitchers in the game.
Speaker 2: While Kelly and Seymour casually smoked cigarettes on the field
Speaker 2: during the game, Pitcher Rube Vickers was used as a
Speaker 2: catcher in the game, and Vickers allowed six pass balls,
Speaker 2: which still stands as the modern Major League high for
Speaker 2: one game. Pittsburgh one eleven to two, and Dreyfus returned
Speaker 2: money to all the fans who had bought tickets to
Speaker 2: the game, and the embarrassed Reds president Gary Herman returned
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati portion of the gate receipts to Dreyfus, so
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. On this date in nineteen forty, the Reds
Speaker 2: lose the third game of the World Series seven to
Speaker 2: four to the Detroit Tigers in Detroit, but the Reds
Speaker 2: go on to win the nineteen forty World Series. On
Speaker 2: this date, in nineteen sixty five, Dave Sissler is fired
Speaker 2: as Reds manager by Bill de Witt. The successor was
Speaker 2: not immediately named. On this date, in nineteen seventy, the
Speaker 2: Reds win the second game of the National League Championship
Speaker 2: Series three to one against the Pirates in Pittsburgh. On
Speaker 2: this date in nineteen seventy five, the Reds win the
Speaker 2: first game of the National League Championship Series eight to
Speaker 2: three against the Pirates at Riverfront Stadium. And on this
Speaker 2: date in nineteen eighty one, Mario Soto pitches a one
Speaker 2: hitter against the Atlanta Braves at Riverfront Stadium in the
Speaker 2: final game of the season. The only Atlanta hit in
Speaker 2: the three to nothing Reds victory was a second inning
Speaker 2: single by Chris Shambless. All happened on this date, October
Speaker 2: four in Cincinnati Red's history and speaking of Bill to Wit,
Speaker 2: who was the owner of the Reds back in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty five, on December ninth of that year, he traded
Speaker 2: Frank Robinson to the Baltimore Orioles for a trio of
Speaker 2: players Milt Pappis, Jack Balchin, and Dick Simpson. Papus while
Speaker 2: end up going thirty and twenty nine in his career
Speaker 2: in three seasons with the Reds, DeWitt felt the club
Speaker 2: needed more pitching, so they acquired Pappus and Jack Balchin,
Speaker 2: and all they did was get rid of a perennial
Speaker 2: All Star in Frank Robinson because DeWitt called him an
Speaker 2: old thirty You've heard this story before. And all Frank
Speaker 2: Robinson did that following season nineteen sixty six was win
Speaker 2: the Triple Crown with a three to sixteen batting average,
Speaker 2: forty nine home runs and one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 2: runs batted in winning the American League Triple Crown and
Speaker 2: then leading He won the AL MVP that year along
Speaker 2: with the Triple Crown and also led the Baltimore Orioles
Speaker 2: to the World's Series. The absolute worst trade in Red's
Speaker 2: history and arguably the worst trade in baseball history. It's
Speaker 2: right up there. Hey, you're listening to Sports Talk with
Speaker 2: your host Chick laud Week and tonight's producer Joe Waddell
Speaker 2: on seven hundred wlwre.
Speaker 15: Receivers go out to the right, two out to the left,
Speaker 15: three down linemen for Cincinnati and everybody else back me
Speaker 15: but six seconds to go back. Throws short over the middle.
Speaker 15: Now one backward toss, so well has it? Throws it
Speaker 15: backward to a tight end. Framer runs up the field
Speaker 15: of the forty Hawk is hit zero. Framer runs out
Speaker 15: of bounds and off. Bearcats are victorious. The student section.
Speaker 13: Comes pouring out onto the field here at Niffert Stadium.
Speaker 13: It is not an upset, It is an uprising. As
Speaker 13: Cincinnati knocks off undefeated fourteenth ranked Iowa State by the
Speaker 13: final score of thirty eight to thirty.
Speaker 2: Dan Horde right here on seven hundred WLW with the
Speaker 2: call the final play. Dan just does a phenomenal, phenomenal job.
Speaker 2: It's that simple. It's not an upset. It's an uprising.
Speaker 2: How about that? That is fantastic And before we go
Speaker 2: back out to the phones and Tom and Dayton, please
Speaker 2: hang on for a second. Ohio State has charged out
Speaker 2: to a twenty one to three lead on homecoming night
Speaker 2: at the Shoe against the Minnesota Golden Gophers twenty one
Speaker 2: to three at the six thirty five mark of the
Speaker 2: second quarter after a Minnesota field goal, touchdowns by CJ. Donaldson,
Speaker 2: a one yard run, Julian Saying with a six yard
Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Jeremiah Smith, and then Julian Saying with
Speaker 2: a forty five four yard strike to Carnell Tate twenty
Speaker 2: one to three Ohio State. And I want to give
Speaker 2: a shout out to a gentleman by the name of
Speaker 2: Phil Renfro, my new BFF, the newest Chick Magnets baseball
Speaker 2: coach at Yellow Springs High School and they head girls
Speaker 2: volleyball coach at Yellow Springs High School. I was there
Speaker 2: with Greg King today this morning reffing JV varsity volleyball
Speaker 2: against the Tri County North Panthers out of Louisbourg, Ohio.
Speaker 2: Had a great time and when the scorekeeper said, your
Speaker 2: voice sounds familiar. Do you do radio and I said, yes,
Speaker 2: where WLW in Cincinnati, and she alerted the head coach
Speaker 2: and we had a real nice discussion. Phil Renfro, quite
Speaker 2: a guy multiple sports in the town that time forgot
Speaker 2: Yellow Springs, Ohio, home of Antioch College, that was all
Speaker 2: over the news during the Vietnam War. And they're still
Speaker 2: protesting the Vietnam War in downtown Yellow Springs with their
Speaker 2: tied eyed shirts. I absolutely love that town. Let's go
Speaker 2: out to the phones and welcome in Tom in Dayton, Hi, Tom.
Speaker 17: Hi, Yellow Springs. That's funny, But I don't want to
Speaker 17: be a downer. I'm very very happy you see one today. Yeah,
Speaker 17: but what bothers me is the students storm the field
Speaker 17: and it seems to be okay. I don't think it's
Speaker 17: okay that students storm a football field, a basketball field,
Speaker 17: a volleyball field.
Speaker 2: I'm not real wild about it. It's very dangerous. It
Speaker 2: is a very dangerous exhibition.
Speaker 17: Students, referees, the police. Yeah, I cannot approve that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just hope there was no damage done to the field,
Speaker 2: to the stands or whatever, and hopefully everybody's all right,
Speaker 2: because people get trampled when a field gets rushed and
Speaker 2: I've seen.
Speaker 17: It and that's my point. Yeah, yeah, I'll line up,
Speaker 17: but yeah, I'm glad they won, but I cannot approve
Speaker 17: students rushing the field any sport. All right, thank you, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Tom, appreciate your call. Thank you very much. I
Speaker 2: want to ask, and I know it's going to the
Speaker 2: reverse radio will work a lot better during the week.
Speaker 2: I know that because fans are out out and about
Speaker 2: on this beautiful Saturday, celebrating with family and friends or
Speaker 2: watching college football, they're watching the baseball playoffs, and I
Speaker 2: want to update some Major League Baseball scores for you.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers now have taken a five to three lead
Speaker 2: over the Philadelphia Phillies, erasing a three to nze in lead.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the yes. The Dodgers scored after
Speaker 2: the Phillies scored three in the bottom of the second.
Speaker 2: Dodgers scored two in the top of the sixth and
Speaker 2: three in the top of the seventh, and that's where
Speaker 2: it stands right now, in the bottom of the seventh inning,
Speaker 2: five to three Dodgers. Earlier today, the Toronto Blue Jays
Speaker 2: wiped out the New York Yankees in Toronto ten to one.
Speaker 2: The Brewers at home defeated the Chicago Cubs nine to three.
Speaker 2: Dodgers have that five to three lead over the Phillies
Speaker 2: and the inning in Seattle, the Mariners and the Tigers
Speaker 2: no score. So playoff baseball. There's nothing quite like it.
Speaker 2: And we saw that. The intensity of the crowd at
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium, also known as Chavez Ravine, was incredible. You
Speaker 2: just heard a constant den in that stadium watching those games.
Speaker 2: And I didn't think the Reds were mentally or physically
Speaker 2: ready to play Game one out in La in the
Speaker 2: wild Card round, because they partied so hard on Sunday
Speaker 2: when they got in with the Mets loss to the
Speaker 2: Miami Marlins, I wondered how sober they were for that game.
Speaker 2: I just thought they'd be more mentally and physically prepared
Speaker 2: to play Game two, and really they were. And there
Speaker 2: were times in that game where the percentage of them
Speaker 2: winning was above fifty percent. When you load the bases
Speaker 2: in the sixth inning with no outs and don't score,
Speaker 2: that is just a crusher from a confidence standpoint. They
Speaker 2: loaded the bases again in the eighth inning, but with
Speaker 2: two outs in a strikeout. So listening to Tommy Thrall
Speaker 2: earlier today with Sterling, and then listening to and listening
Speaker 2: to Tom Nichols earlier this evening with me. Yes, we're
Speaker 2: excited about next year in the prospects of this season,
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of question marks. And it
Speaker 2: all starts with who are they going to keep and
Speaker 2: who are they going to let go? And I remember
Speaker 2: sitting in a press box in Carolina at a Bengals
Speaker 2: Panthers game and Sam Weish was there and I asked Sam,
Speaker 2: because the Bengals were struggling with Dick lebou as the
Speaker 2: head coach, and I asked him, what should the Bengals do?
Speaker 2: And he said, find out who's helping you win and
Speaker 2: keep them, find out who's helping you lose and get
Speaker 2: rid of them. That's what the Cincinnati Reds have to do.
Speaker 2: We're looking at a bunch of unrestricted free agents and
Speaker 2: Nick Martinez, Wade Miley, Emelio Pegan, Zach Lettel, Miguel Andrewharr
Speaker 2: and then you've got club options on Austin Hayes, Brent Souiter.
Speaker 2: So the club has to figure out who they want
Speaker 2: to keep and who they want to let go. And
Speaker 2: I want to take this opportunity to thank tonight's producer
Speaker 2: Shoeless Joe Waddell, and especially thank all the loyal listeners,
Speaker 2: all the chick Magnets out there. I appreciate you, Thanks
Speaker 2: for tuning in, and until next time, this is the
Speaker 2: Chickster Chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening to the home
Speaker 2: of the Reds and the best Bengals coverage. See you
Speaker 2: tomorrow night at the Cristview Hills Wings and Rings from
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. I'll be with Bruce Kazerski Bengals legend,
Speaker 2: breaking it all down and what we hope will be
Speaker 2: a Bengals victory over the Detroit Lions tomorrow on seven
Speaker 2: hundred WA LW