WEBVTT - 10-4-25 Sports Talk with Chick Ludwig

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<v Speaker 1>Six eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati, chick Ludwig

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred w l W.

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<v Speaker 2>This is sports talk like Eric Carmen and the Raspberries.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going all the way to nine o'clock tonight. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask you to get involved. Let's have some

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<v Speaker 2>fun tonight. I don't know about you, but the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>Acats are going to cause me to have a heart

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<v Speaker 2>attack with a smile on my face. Of course. What

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<v Speaker 2>a victory today chopping down number fourteen ranked the Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>State Cyclones at Knippert Stadium, Brendan Soresby passing for two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fourteen yards and two touchdowns, Evan Pryor rushing

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<v Speaker 2>for one hundred and eleven yards and two touchdowns. You

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<v Speaker 2>see getting a seventeen point first quarter and then hanging

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<v Speaker 2>on for dear life with some great defense and some

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<v Speaker 2>big plays on offense to beat Iowa State. Were you there?

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like at Knippert Stadium today? The Wrigley

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<v Speaker 2>Field of college football stadiums, fans, students pouring out onto

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<v Speaker 2>the field, an incredible celebration going on at the NIP

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you feel now about out Scott Saderfield

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<v Speaker 2>what a turnaround, A signature win. Last week arguably the

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<v Speaker 2>best of his career here in Cincinnati with the comeback

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<v Speaker 2>victory over Kansas, and now today with you see snapping

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State's perfect record. What a victory it was. And

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<v Speaker 2>it took every second of sixty minutes to win this game.

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<v Speaker 2>You see ahead seventeen to nothing after the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one to seven with just over a minute to

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<v Speaker 2>go before halftime. But then Iowa State, with Rocko back

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<v Speaker 2>to quarterback, they got to two for one. They get

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<v Speaker 2>the touchdown at the end of the first half, touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>to start the third quarter, and then i started getting nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>but an incredible fourth down stop in the red zone

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<v Speaker 2>on fourth and one, stopping rock O Becked and then

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<v Speaker 2>Soresby with an incredible eighty two yard touchdown pass. But

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<v Speaker 2>it still took recovering an on sidekick, and they still

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<v Speaker 2>had the punt before the game ended. Heart is beaten

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<v Speaker 2>like a big bass drum. Nineteenth nervous breakdown. Is this

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<v Speaker 2>thing unfolds? But the Bearcats hang on and what a

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<v Speaker 2>victory it was. You want to chime in five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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<v Speaker 2>seven thousand, one eight hundred. The big one. How about

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<v Speaker 2>last night at the Pit Elder and Moler. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hear from Kurt Roffing Elder's print after the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the hour news. I haven't seen a scene like that

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<v Speaker 2>at the Pit Elder Stadium in years. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen a more intense crowd, especially as students ready

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<v Speaker 2>for Moler last night credible? But how about the UC Bearcats. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>We're eventually going to hear from Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legendary

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<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman. Bruce is going to join me tomorrow postgame

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk nine to eleven PM in Northern Kentucky. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>give out the site, we will give out the address.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love to have you stop by Wings and Rings

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<v Speaker 2>to hear and listen and watch the Chickster and Kazerski

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<v Speaker 2>breakdown what we hope will be a Bengals victory tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>against the Detroit Lions. People are laughing at me right

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<v Speaker 2>now when I'm saying Bengals victory over the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>But wouldn't it just be so NFL. I am not

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<v Speaker 2>a gambling man, not at all, but if I was

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<v Speaker 2>to put some money down, it would be on the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals tomorrow a double digit home dog. Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>I not only look for the Bengals to cover, it

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<v Speaker 2>will be so NFL so any given Sunday for the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals to win tomorrow. I do know this that if

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<v Speaker 2>they put up anything short of a supreme effort tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>even in a defeat, pitchforks and what do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it? A march down to pay Court Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm not going to settle for anything less

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<v Speaker 2>than a supreme effort tomorrow because if they get blown

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<v Speaker 2>out again by the Detroit Lions, it is absolute armageddon

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<v Speaker 2>here for the Bengals and it will be a very

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<v Speaker 2>very long season. People are already bailing at two and two.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand it. Yes, the Lions are formidable, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals got just kicked in the teeth the last

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks at Minnesota and then on Monday Night football

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<v Speaker 2>in Denver. It was embarrassing. They cannot come out and

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<v Speaker 2>play that again tomorrow night, four twenty five. Start all

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<v Speaker 2>the coverage right here on seven hundred WLW starting at noon.

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<v Speaker 2>What a crew gonna be an awesome day? It sure

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<v Speaker 2>was an awesome day today at Nippert Stadium. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hear from Scott Saderfield after the game is interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Pike. When we come back. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>fun night here talking Reds, talking Bengals, talking Ucy football,

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<v Speaker 2>talking Elder Moler, and then we're gonna have some fun

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<v Speaker 2>in the eight o'clock hour. And I'm warning you right

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<v Speaker 2>now get your thinking caps on, because we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 2>a game of a delightful game of reverse radio in

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<v Speaker 2>the eight o'clock hour where callers, the loyal listeners that

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<v Speaker 2>Chick Magnets, are going to call in and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask you questions and you're gonna give me answers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have an awful lot of fun. Six sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>in the Queen City, chick Ludwig, Sports Talk, seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>How about them Bearcats thirty eight to thirty over the

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State Cyclones, who are now five and one, Bearcats

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<v Speaker 2>four and one and two and oh in the Big

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<v Speaker 2>twelve on seven hundred WLW the.

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals six point twenty one in the Queen City of Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 3>chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>This is sports talk all fired up over the UC

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<v Speaker 2>Bearcats in their thirty eight to thirty victory over previously

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<v Speaker 2>undefeated and fourteenth ranked the Iowa State Cyclones. And to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the most critical play in this game came with seven

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<v Speaker 2>forty to go, with Iowa State trailing thirty one to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Fourth and one at UC's sixteen yard line

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<v Speaker 2>and rock O Becked stopped for no gain at Cincinnati's

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen yard line, and then three plays later, eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>yards later, the Bearcats are in the end zone on

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<v Speaker 2>the deep and long touchdown pass and catch for the

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<v Speaker 2>Bearcats to push that lead out to thirty eight to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Iowa State scored again, got the two point

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<v Speaker 2>conversion you see, got the on side kick, couldn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>run out the clock, had to punt, but you see,

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<v Speaker 2>hangs on for a thirty eight to thirty victory. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a caller on the line, Connor in Cincinnati here

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<v Speaker 2>wants to talk a little bit about my alma mater

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<v Speaker 2>class of nineteen seventy two, the Elder Panthers, and how

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<v Speaker 2>proud the Panthers made him last night. Hey Connor, what's up?

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<v Speaker 4>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 5>Check?

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<v Speaker 4>It's uh you got Connor and Frank Lenmiller here on

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<v Speaker 4>the line. Just want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>The Panthers outstanding. What a game last night. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen a crowd that intense.

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<v Speaker 6>What a scene it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and they're just elders, just aren't in everybody's respect.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's uh, it's gonna be fun to watch. We

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<v Speaker 4>got we got a lot of football in the future

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<v Speaker 4>coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I hear homecoming, I'm thinking of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say a Patsy, but you bring

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<v Speaker 2>Moler in for homecoming? And what a night? Uh unbel

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<v Speaker 2>Kayden Easta, the quarterback of the Panthers, What a game,

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<v Speaker 2>what a gamer?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Leaders all over the field, I mean yes, on the

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<v Speaker 7>defensive end, you got Digg and you got your end, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Got you got e Step, you got Ruth. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>you got players all over the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hear they've got a good defense, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>good linebackers, they've got it, they've got it. Be awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>got it Old Molar to sixteen points.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be fun to

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<v Speaker 6>watch down the stretch. So we uh, we got high

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<v Speaker 6>expectations every on this west.

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<v Speaker 4>Side of town.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh they could very well meet again in the

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<v Speaker 2>state football playoffs, couldn't They?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely absolutely, and it'll be Uh it'll be another classic.

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<v Speaker 2>So man to beat Saint X last week on the

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<v Speaker 2>road and then to come home and beat Molar Man.

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<v Speaker 2>What what a couple of weeks here for the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, untouchable. I mean we got Highlands next week. So yes,

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<v Speaker 4>eat the ball, eat the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong outstanding Connor Man. Appreciate the call.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely check, I'll talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, take care, Say hi to Pops for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, my Ohio State Buckeyes. And even though I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Ohio State graduated School of Journalism nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a native of Cincinnati. I love the bear Cats.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting me as fired up as I do against

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<v Speaker 2>when Ohio State's playing. And here my nephew and his wife,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Christopher Junior and lee Ann, his bride. They're in

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus right now. They're gosh, they're at one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite taverns, the outer end, getting all fired up for

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<v Speaker 2>tonight's Buckeye game against the Minnesota Golden Gophers at Ohio Stadium. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm there in spirit, but I am so glad to

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<v Speaker 2>be with you, the loyal listeners, and all the Chick

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<v Speaker 2>magnets out there. Hey, Dick and Dayton is calling. Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>lay it on me, buddy, lay it on me, Dick,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, you gotta say there, Kats are pretty good.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, that's pretty good for them to be the

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<v Speaker 8>team like this, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, four and one, four and one, two and oh

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<v Speaker 2>yeah in two and oh in the big twelve.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so you.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they've got UCF Central Florida from the old AAC days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>coming into the next Man, they're loving these Saturday noon starts.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one next Saturday.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know another thing. We got to say something though.

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<v Speaker 8>The Reds, I mean, gave it all they could and

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<v Speaker 8>yet we went there. But yet we can build on

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<v Speaker 8>this maybe for next year, you know they'll be I

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<v Speaker 8>think they did a lot better. It would like we'd

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<v Speaker 8>like to see it. But I've got a question for you, Chick. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 8>you've covered the Bengals for years. Do you really think

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<v Speaker 8>now tomorrow is going to be their test? But they're

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<v Speaker 8>going to have to play good. But you don't want

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<v Speaker 8>to go zero in three? Do you think that it's

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<v Speaker 8>i'd know with Burrough gone, but do they have I

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<v Speaker 8>think they got a chance. But what's your opinion on tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going out on the limb and saying they win.

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<v Speaker 2>I really am. They've got blown out and embarrassed the

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<v Speaker 2>last two weeks. Now they're at home. They cannot play

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<v Speaker 2>like that in front of their home crowd. There's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be torches and pitchforks on the way down to

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<v Speaker 2>pay Course Stadium if they lay another egg like they

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<v Speaker 2>have the last two weeks. I want to see effort,

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<v Speaker 2>effort at the very minimum. And you know what, Jick Dick,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go ahead and say it. There's one word

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<v Speaker 2>to describe the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 9>What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Soft? They are soft. They are allowing running backs to

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<v Speaker 2>get outside. They're allowing wide receivers to settle into wide

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<v Speaker 2>open areas in the zone. Okay, Whereas on offense, every

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<v Speaker 2>pass that is thrown by Jake Brown is contested?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone, where where are the easy throws in first downs?

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<v Speaker 2>So and then the penalties come and it destroys your confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And this team has to get its confidence back and

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<v Speaker 2>I like what Ted Carris the Center said. They own it,

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<v Speaker 2>they deserve the criticism, and it's time for them to

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<v Speaker 2>step forward tomorrow starting at four.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, have a good night, chick, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, appreciate it, Dick, Thank you, sir By.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, yeah, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. How about do you see Bearcats?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Huge? Now I want to just refresh my screen here

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<v Speaker 2>on some college football scores. Oh my goodness, there's six

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and seventeen seconds left in the Rose Bowl and

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<v Speaker 2>UCLA oh Ton four owen one in the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 2>has a forty two to twenty eight lead over the

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<v Speaker 2>number seven ranked Penn State Nitney Lions. Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Florida unranked leads Number nine Texas in Gainesville twenty nine

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<v Speaker 2>to fourteen. Number ten Alabama has a twenty to fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>lead over the sixteenth ranked Vanderbilt Commodores. Notre Dame twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>the number twenty one ranked team in the nation. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a twenty eight to seven lead at home over

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<v Speaker 2>Boise State, number twenty four Virginia Man with ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>it's to go in the game, a twenty four to

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen lead at Louisville, Oklahoma, fifth rank Sooners rolling at

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<v Speaker 2>home against kent State, and some finals that are in

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<v Speaker 2>number twelve Georgia over Kentucky thirty five to fourteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan Wolverines twenty four to ten over the Wisconsin Badgers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not looking very promising right now for the Badgers. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we've reached the bottom of the hour break, it's news time.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, Kurt Roffing, Elder Principal and CEO,

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<v Speaker 2>is going to join us on seven hundred WLW. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to Sports Talk with your host Chick Ludwig on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW. Elder Stadium in West price Hill is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most iconic high school football venues, not

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<v Speaker 2>just in the state, but in the nation. It's known

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<v Speaker 2>as the Pit Elder's twelfth Man and last night it

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<v Speaker 2>was rocking with an intensity, excitement in enthusiasm that I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen in a long time. And it was for homecoming,

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty fifth reunion for the class of nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Panthers delivered a twenty four to sixteen victory

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<v Speaker 2>over Moler for the first outright GCL South title in

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen years. And here to tell us about it, Elder

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<v Speaker 2>Principal and CEO, Kurt Roffing. What a night Elder Nation

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<v Speaker 2>won't soon forget. Kurt, Welcome to seven hundred WLW. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing well? How are you checking?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Fantastic? And what was it like inside that stadium

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<v Speaker 2>last night? Kurt?

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<v Speaker 6>Let me start off.

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<v Speaker 9>It was crowded.

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<v Speaker 6>The atmosphere was just unbelievable, exciting for both sides. Moeller

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<v Speaker 6>and Elder. You know, what an awesome game for both teams,

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<v Speaker 6>both schools to witness, and you know, luckily Elder came

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<v Speaker 6>out on top. And it's going to be a fun

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<v Speaker 6>week this week heading into Highlands that we play next Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kurt, I want to read to you a text

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<v Speaker 2>that I got from my brother Dan, who was with

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<v Speaker 2>his wife Jackie and many family members last night. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Ruffing's blessing, his address and prayer before the game

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<v Speaker 2>was amazing. It set the tone for the whole night.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a Catholic prayer that included respect for each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It was beautiful, the weather, the atmosphere, the quality of

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<v Speaker 2>play on both sides, the youthful energy, the love the community.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I've ever been so proud of Elder,

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<v Speaker 2>what a special place. And after the prayer, they sang

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<v Speaker 2>the Alma Mater, followed by the national anthem, So spiritual,

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<v Speaker 2>so moving. So you said you were a star last night.

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<v Speaker 6>You set the tone, No, chick, I appreciate that, but

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<v Speaker 6>I know I'm not even close to a star. I

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<v Speaker 6>had the privilege of being able to say the prayer

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<v Speaker 6>before the games. You know, my predecessor, Tom Martin, he

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<v Speaker 6>taught me, well, you know, as you said, we are

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<v Speaker 6>a Catholic school, we will always be a Catholic school.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm honored to be able to leave the school.

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<v Speaker 6>So no, I'm not a star at all.

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<v Speaker 2>How about sixty nine folks jam into the pit and

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Bill and I want to thank Brian for facilitating

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<v Speaker 2>our interview here tonight. He was a great help today,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. The only beverages left in the whole building

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<v Speaker 2>were six diet Doctor peppers, the only drinks left in

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<v Speaker 2>the concession stands. Incredible and sixteen over sixteen thousand unique

0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:14.639
<v Speaker 2>viewers who turned into the broadcast on the Elder News

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<v Speaker 2>Network with a Prep Sports Radio Net with the Prep

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Radio Network. And that's fifty percent of the winner

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<v Speaker 2>in spring sports totals combined, so a lot of unique

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 2>viewers last night to the Elder experience. Kurt, Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what our Enn Elder News Network, what

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.880
<v Speaker 6>our crew does. And when I say crew, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 6>about the students and some of our staff, but our

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<v Speaker 6>students are the ones that really put the show on.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm at a birthday party for my wife and our

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<v Speaker 6>friend's granddaughter. Anyway, my friend is he went to Elder

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<v Speaker 6>with me, Saint Dominic. He now is in Cleveland, so

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<v Speaker 6>they watched the game on n N last night and

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<v Speaker 6>he was just complimenting the Enn program for how much

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<v Speaker 6>of a professional production that they put on. And the

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<v Speaker 6>thing that's very unique about this and for Elder High

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<v Speaker 6>School is that our students do about ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 6>of the work. They're in the network studio inside the

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<v Speaker 6>school building operating everything. Students are out on the field

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<v Speaker 6>with the cameras, so what they provide our alumni and

0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 6>friends of Elder is unbelievable. It is the only thing

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<v Speaker 6>I would have to say is I really appreciate everyone's

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<v Speaker 6>tuning in, But if you have the opportunity to come

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<v Speaker 6>to the game and support our school and the players

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<v Speaker 6>in the stadium. That makes it even.

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<v Speaker 2>Better, no doubt about that. In props big time to

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Spolidge, the director of athletics, and Adam Doole, the

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<v Speaker 2>media production coordinator. And then just to play on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>How about Caden east Step the quarterback twenty one of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, two hundred and eighty six yards, three touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 2>two to Jackson Ruth, another to Chase Wolpoole, an unbelievable defense,

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<v Speaker 2>to hold Molar to sixteen points, to generate twenty four,

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and to thread the needle on so many passes. Just gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a signature win. Really, back to back at

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<v Speaker 2>SAT next, then home with Molar, uh and then Highlands

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<v Speaker 2>comes next. And this is just a phenomenal time for

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<v Speaker 2>for Elder football and the high school.

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<v Speaker 6>Kurt it is you know, during the school day, if

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<v Speaker 6>people could be there just to witness the excitement, and

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, you take this football team, you can't say

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<v Speaker 6>that there's only real superstars. They all play well together,

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<v Speaker 6>they have level heads, and you know that makes it

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<v Speaker 6>even better. They're all good kids. Yeah, you know, everyone

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<v Speaker 6>loves to win, but it's even better with the kind

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<v Speaker 6>of kids that we're producing when they graduate from Elder

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.239
<v Speaker 6>and go on to be successful in their lives. So

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, for us that's more important. But we'll take

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<v Speaker 6>the win whenever we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Our family, the Ludwigs like to say that the only

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 2>thing bad about Elder or the only uh, You've only

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<v Speaker 2>get to stay for four years and then you have

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<v Speaker 2>to leave. But really, in all seriousness, you you never

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<v Speaker 2>leave Elder, you know, with the with the purple blood

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<v Speaker 2>that you have, uh, when you exit with a diploma.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree, And that's what's so special about our alumni.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>They just they keep that Elder pride going. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we celebrated our hundredth anniversary a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 6>and we're here for another hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also want to give props to the other

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the GCL South Moeler, Lassalle and Saint X.

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<v Speaker 2>We like to say, Kurt Ruffing that we fight like

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<v Speaker 2>hell in high school and then we become Bffs'.

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<v Speaker 6>Our at where I live, our next door neighbor moved

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 6>in about a year ago today. He went to St X,

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 6>played football, went on to Vanderbilt, played football, and al

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<v Speaker 6>as one of their freshman football coaches.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is Nick.

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<v Speaker 6>Lyle, great, great guy.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a little.

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<v Speaker 6>Side beck going on for the st X football game

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<v Speaker 6>and gets who won. Yes, So he owes me a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of diet cokes and we're going to enjoy those

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 6>on my deck one night. But you're right, it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's a wonderful league. The competition is awesome, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when it's all said and done, after the games, we're

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<v Speaker 6>all all good friends.

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>And I grew up at the corner of West Ethan Rosemont,

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<v Speaker 2>and man, I could hear the uh the public address

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 2>system from from our house at elders Stone. It's carved

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>right into the community. And I got to walk through

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 2>the stadium every day going to school. Can't do that anymore,

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:15.719
<v Speaker 2>but oh it's elder Stadium. The pit is just it's iconic.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>What makes it so nice compared to most other stadiums

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<v Speaker 6>is there's no running track in between the field and

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<v Speaker 6>the stands, so the spectators are right there next to

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 6>the field, so you know, it makes you feel like

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<v Speaker 6>you're in there actually playing with these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you're absolutely right. And sometimes in the stands it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a distraction, just watching all the

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 2>people walk continuously around the stadium. But it's just such

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 2>a unique place and gosh, it's got the Wrigley Field

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<v Speaker 2>look to it with the homes and the porches really

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<v Speaker 2>overlooking the home grandstands.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so we elder now owns all the property behind

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<v Speaker 6>the press box going down to the house that has

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 6>the deck behind it. Yes, so you know, in our plans,

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 6>the master facility plan that I just had completed, our

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 6>our intent is to build a new press box and

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 6>then all the property behind it will become a parking lot,

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<v Speaker 6>so it'll make it a better.

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<v Speaker 4>Experience for our fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's that's saying something. Man always looking to gosh,

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>improve and expand and just and the programs that the

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 2>school offers, now some even you know, because not every

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 2>kid is going to go to college, and there's some

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 2>there's some other things in the works. There other programs

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<v Speaker 2>that that are offered to help kids get jobs.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I'm currently in my ten years principal. So about

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<v Speaker 6>eight years ago we started a skilled trades program. Yes,

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 6>and you know we offer right now we're offering electricity,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 6>so that's a true apprenticeship program. Welding through Cincinnati state

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 6>auto mechanics, auto body, HVAC, plumbing, or carpentry and construction

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 6>management with mes or Construction.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 4>So if a.

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 6>Student comes to us saying, hey, I've got this interest

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 6>in this trade, if we're not offering it at older,

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 6>we're going to do whatever we can to make it

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 6>work for that student, because you know, my feeling has

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 6>always been not every student wants to go to college

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 6>nor needs to go to college, and we needed to

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 6>offer them a different path that we could provide them.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 6>So the Skilled Trades program has really really been successful.

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<v Speaker 6>It's open to our seniors only, and this year our

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 6>senior class is right at two hundred and we have

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 6>thirty three seniors taking advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is fantastic, Kurt, And hey, I really appreciate you

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>carving out time here. You're at a birthday party and

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I know Doug. I'm sure Doug Ramsey has not come

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 2>down to Earth yet and but yeah, he'll celebrate this

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>weekend and probably starting tomorrow he'll start getting ready for Highlands.

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>And I just want to congratulate you, your staff, the students,

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the football team, just everybody involved at Elder High School

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>for just an incredible evening of gosh football last night

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>at the pit.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree, and Chick, thanks for having me and thanks

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 6>for being a loyal a lum.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Kurt, Kurt Roffing, thank you so much, the

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>elder principal and CEO of a great, great high school

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>in West Price Hill. Thanks so much, Kurt, appreciate you.

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And this is seven hundred WLW Welcome back to Sports

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Talk with your host Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>In the University of Cincinnati, Bearcats improved to four and

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>one overall, two to zero in the Big Twelve with

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a thirty eight to thirty victory over fourteenth ranked Iowa State.

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Today and our very own Tony Pike caught up with

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>head coach Scott Sadderfield after the game.

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<v Speaker 10>Here they are, all right, coach, just talk about your

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 10>messaging to the team in there. Here comes the fourteenth

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 10>ranked team in the country. Very well, coach, very good

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 10>football team coming in. You guys get to win. What's

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 10>the immediate message to those guys?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I just you know, number one, I said,

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm proud of you because the preparation, because it really

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 7>is the preparation throughout the week and our mentality we

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 7>talk about our process that we do each and every day,

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 7>and we take it one day at a time. A

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 7>lot of times people say, let's coach talk, but our

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 7>guys bought into that. They've done a great job of

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 7>taking care of their bodies and mentally preparing.

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 4>But that's how you you're.

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 7>Able to come out and you know what a thirty

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 7>one to seven ball game because our guys were fired

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 7>up mentally ready to go play. And I think that

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 7>was obviously the difference to be able to hang on

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 7>and get that win.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 10>First half, you guys ran it for ninety eight more

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 10>yards than what they give up over the course of

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 10>a game. What allowed you guys to be so dominant

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 10>on the ground.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think it started up front with their guys.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 7>You know, they coming off the ball making some blocks

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 7>and I tell you it's the best I've seen our

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 7>running backs this year at tyle Wee Broke. I don't

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 7>know how many tackles today, was really trying to run

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 7>over their defensive backs. And Evan Pryor Man, he has

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 7>a great hit a great game as well. So both

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 7>our running backs I thought did an excellent job. I

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 7>thought Sowersby hit some good throws early in the game

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 7>to get you know, make some big plays, and completion

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 7>percentage wasn't there. But I think their running game really,

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 7>you know, really stood out. I think in that first

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 7>half for sure.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 10>Second half you guys up nine running the ball, the

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 10>third and long, you take a chance eighty two yard

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 10>pass to Caleb Goody. What went into that play calling?

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 10>Obviously the execution you mentioned Sowersby wasn't as accurate all day,

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 10>but he makes the biggest play of the day.

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.479
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was a huge Well, you know, obviously we

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 7>were a little stagnant, I think offensive in the second half.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>And rhythm had to do with it. They had the ball,

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I thought.

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 7>Forever, and then we went to a run of penalties,

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, but I thought, right there we just needed

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 7>another score. And you know, we saw man coverage right there.

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 7>We had a play call that we've actually been running

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 7>all year. It's been a really good play for us,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 7>and it happened to be man and we know Goodie

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 7>on that on their safety was a good matchup for us.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 7>Thought Brendan the way a great ball. He put a

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 7>lot of air under it and allowed Goodie to run

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 7>underneath it. And the rest you know his history.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 10>You guys get Dante Corleone back on the defensive side

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 10>of the ball, but they get a little momentum before

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 10>the half and then they score the double dip coming

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 10>out of the half. After that, your guy's defense was phenomenal,

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 10>multiple fourth down stops. What changed? What was the adjustment

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 10>that the defense was able to get off the field.

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 7>Well, at the end of the first half, we were

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 7>playing a little bit too loose coverage. You know, we

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 7>were dropping everybody off. We're playing our safeties back because

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 7>there wasn't much time left, just under a minute, and

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 7>they had some some plays on us and got a

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 7>couple of chunk plays. Next thing you know, they're down there.

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 7>And then you mentioned they got a fourth down play.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 7>I think it hit two two point conversions today, and

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, the fourth downs were huge, and we got

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 7>some timely stops today and we held them to a

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 7>couple of field goal opportunities and this one, you know,

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 7>But but I think overall, you know, the defense did

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 7>enough to win the game for us. We had some

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 7>big special teams play as well, two big returns to

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 7>get it past midfield, you know, and we won the game.

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 7>Even though you know, we had had that turnover, and

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 7>I think that was a timely turnover for us. We

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 7>had a good momentum right there on the plus territory.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 7>We had a good play and just bobble the pitch

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 7>there on the option. But other than that, I mean, shoot,

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 7>I thought we played outstanding.

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>That's Tony Pike with University of Cincinnati Bearcats head football

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>coach Scott Saderfield. Bearcat's now four and one overall, two

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and zero in the Big twelve. Hey, when we come back,

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna we're gonna talk some Reds baseball with the

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 2>voice of the Class A Dayton Dragons, Tom Nichols. I

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>hope you'll stay tuned. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk

0:33:56.680 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>with Joe Waddell, tonight's producer on seven hundred WLWY.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 4>Seven eight in.

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<v Speaker 2>The Queens City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig seven WLW This

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>is sports Talk. We're going all the way to nine

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>o'clock tonight and we're carving out some time here to

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>talk Cincinnati Reds baseball. And we're bringing in the director

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 2>of broadcast and the voice of the Dayton Dragons, our

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.479
<v Speaker 2>good friend Tom Nichols. Tom, thanks so much for joining

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>us tonight. How are you.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 11>I'm great, chick, Thanks for having me on your show tonight.

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're welcome. Are you getting any rest from that

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 2>long minor league baseball season?

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 11>I need some, that's for sure. We played one hundred

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 11>and thirty two game schedule this year and that's a

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 11>lot of games, not quite as many as the big

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 11>league club when you talk about rest, Chick. We had

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 11>a couple of late nights this week with the Reds

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 11>being out on the West Coast in the playoffs, So

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 11>those those were days where you tried to You went

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 11>in the next morning a little bit tired, but things

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 11>didn't go the way we hope, but good to see

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 11>the team did qualify for the playoffs, of course.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. And really three West Coast trips what

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>like in the final month, so that that is really tough.

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 11>It really was a tough schedule. It seemed like you

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 11>kept hearing as you got towards that final month to

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 11>six weeks if the Reds have the toughest schedule ahead

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 11>of them of any club. And of course I think

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 11>the four games sleep of the Cubs was probably the

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 11>one that in the end put them over the top,

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 11>but hopefully they got some you know, some good experience

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 11>out of what took place, even though the end results

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 11>were not what any of the fans or any of

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 11>the players wanted. But maybe it's a step forward in

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 11>the right direction heading into next year. And they've got

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 11>a lot of decisions to make between now and the

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 11>start of spring training next year based on the free

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 11>agents they have and also some players that maybe could

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 11>play multiple positions on the field that they have to

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 11>make some decisions on where to put them to stack

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 11>up the best lineup.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 2>No doubt about that. Tom And And just looking back

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 2>on the two games against the Los Angeles Dodgers, I

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 2>really thought the first game was going to be difficult.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>They you know, they partied hardy on Sunday, and just

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 2>two nights later here they're going into Chavez Ravine. I

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>just thought the second game there, I thought they'd in

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>a much better physical and mental approach to that to

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>that game, and they did have their opportunities.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 11>You now, as I look back on it, I wonder

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 11>if they've been able to clinch one day earlier and

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 11>and not had to play that Sunday game against Milwaukee,

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 11>and what at the time looked like a must wim situation.

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 11>Of course, they lost that game but still made it

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 11>because the Mets were shut out by the Marlins, but

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 11>you had to use some people. And the Dodgers, meanwhile,

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 11>they were able to prepare and and get their guys

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 11>ready to go and line up their starting rotation, and

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 11>the Reds weren't able really to do that. The Dodgers

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 11>maybe had just a little bit more of a ability

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 11>to get their guys rested and ready, and for the

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 11>Reds it was just another extension of what was already

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 11>a road trip to begin with. They were in Milwaukee

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 11>and then had to fly to Los Angeles, and those

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 11>West coast trips have always been hard for them. If

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 11>you think back over the years, it's it's always been.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 5>A difficult.

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 11>You look at the series they had with the Athletics,

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 11>for ample, was a disaster and and that's not the

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 11>first time that's happened over the years, and those are

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 11>the tough trips for them. But again, the experience of

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.720
<v Speaker 11>playing in big games and and facing that kind of pressure,

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 11>that's what you play the game, and that's really where

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 11>major leagues minor league is the same thing. To be said,

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 11>you developed my playing in big games and big moments,

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 11>and you learn a little bit about yourself as a player,

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 11>and uh, and you learn maybe how you stack up

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 11>against some of the better teams and what you need

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 11>to do to close that gap a little bit. And uh,

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.240
<v Speaker 11>you know, the situational hitting all year was a big problem,

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.919
<v Speaker 11>which was which was really a shame because they really

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 11>prided on the fact that that was going to need

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 11>to be a strength with situational hitting, taking advantage of

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 11>your opportunities when you get guys in scoring position, get

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 11>them in because they were not going to be a

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 11>team that was going to hit a ton of home runs,

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 11>so the situational hitting was going to have to carry

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 11>them and that turned out to be a problem for

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 11>a good part of the year. And so that's something

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 11>going forward that they're really going to have to take

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 11>to look at and figure out how to get more

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 11>out of no.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Doubt, and before we really delve into like the like

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 2>the free agents that are common and everything, do you

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>find yourself rooting for any team that's left alive here

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.919
<v Speaker 2>as you know, as the as the playoffs on fold

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>here with the division series.

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 11>Good question, Chick, Maybe as much rooting for as against

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 11>in some cases, there are some teams I probably would

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 11>prefer that they not be in the World Series, the

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 11>Dodgers being at the top of it, as probably Yeah.

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 11>And you know, when you're when you're a fan of

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 11>a team that's in a small market by baseball standards,

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 11>and you've got a payroll I think, what was it,

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 11>something like one hundred and nineteen million, and the Dodgers

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 11>were in the three fifty range and fifty million, So

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 11>you just can't compete with that, and you've got to

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 11>you know, that's Baseball's economic issue that's got to be

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 11>corrected for for the fans, for the fairness of the teams.

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 11>The other teams have salary caps. It's really a salary

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 11>floor that we need more than anything. But to do that,

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 11>you're going to have to put a whole system of

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 11>revenue sharing in place. And so maybe this will happen

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 11>at the next negotiating period, which is a year away.

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 11>And I know that the Commissioner has talked pretty pretty

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 11>aggressively about how much they do need to address the

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.919
<v Speaker 11>fact that you've got some team spending two hundred million

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 11>dollars and more in excess of other teams and it's

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 11>just really hard to compete, and it reminds you almost

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 11>chick of a Now I came from a MAX school,

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 11>so I can say this. It would it's it's like

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 11>a MAX school that wins that conference championship and you're

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 11>all excited and you go to March Madness and you

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 11>play the number one seed and you lose by thirty points,

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 11>and that's because you did the best you could do

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 11>and and and that's kind of what it reminded me

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 11>of a little bit. But nobody's going to give up,

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 11>and they know no one's going to feel sorry for them,

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 11>and you do what you can to try to close

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 11>that gap and be better next year and keep taking

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 11>steps forward and know for that to happen, I think

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 11>one of the big things that's going to have to

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 11>be part of it. And I said this at the

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 11>start of the year, and I'll continue to say it.

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 11>You've got to have players who are in essence, guys

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 11>that carry your club when when you need them. In

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 11>other words, you've got to have guys. When you look

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 11>at the league leaders, you've got to have some guys

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 11>all over the leaderboard. And I'm talking about categories like

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 11>extra base hits, slugging percentage, home runs, you've got to

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.919
<v Speaker 11>got RBIs. You've got to have guys that you see

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 11>their names all over the leaderboard to not have anyone

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 11>on there. That might be a big credit to Terry

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 11>Francona to be able to get what he got out

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 11>of the team without having a true star player this year,

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 11>and they still manage to win eighty three ball games

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 11>and of course get some helping them bets to get

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 11>into the playoffs. But you've got to figure out a

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 11>way to have a star player for a small market team.

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.280
<v Speaker 11>That's a hard thing to do because you can't really

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 11>it's hard to expect them to go out in free

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 11>agency and outdid the Mets of the Dodgers for a

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 11>star player. So you hope to get those players developed

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 11>through your system. And of course they've got one coming

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 11>up right now in South Stewart that I think has

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.720
<v Speaker 11>a chance to eventually be that kind of a player,

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 11>that kind of number three year, number four hitter in

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 11>your order that teams have to figure out a way

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 11>to try to pitch around or just deal with. And

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 11>he's got a chance, maybe hopefully and for the Reds

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 11>to really ever become a team that can compete with

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 11>the big boys. You've got to develop those guys like

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 11>a South Stewart into a true star down the road

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.720
<v Speaker 11>at some point. If that never happens, it's really tough.

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Just to update the fans on the games going on,

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Like right now, the Phillies have a three to nothing

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.720
<v Speaker 2>lead over the Dodgers in the bottom of the second

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>inning in Philadelphia. The Brewers have defeated the Chicago Cubs

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>nine to three. In the Blue Jay have dispatched the

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Yankees here in their first game ten to one, and

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the Tigers and Mariners go tonight at eight thirty five. Souh.

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, just we will get to sal here in

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 2>a minute. The uh, you know, looking at the unrestricted

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>free agent lists here, Nick Martinez is twenty one million

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 2>dollars is going to be, you know, finally off the board,

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 2>it looks like. But there's Wade Miley, there's Emelio Pagan,

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 2>zach Lettel Miguel and duhar uh and then some a

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>mutual option here twelve million for Austin Hayes. That's uh, oh,

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a bit much. And Brent Soonter's got a three

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 2>million dollars million mutual option, and there's also a I

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 2>believe a club option out there on Scott Barlow. So

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>you're exactly right, Tom Nichols. A lot of a tough

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 2>decision to be made.

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 11>Here, right, And those players that have options, just because

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 11>you don't exercise the option doesn't mean you can't still

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 11>resign the player. So a player like him Austin Hayes,

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 11>I agree with you, that's a lot, probably more than

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 11>he's worth to exercise that option. So he then just

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 11>becomes a standard free agent, unrespected free agent, and you

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 11>can at that point you can maybe try to see

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 11>if you can come to an agreement and bring him

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 11>back possibly if that's the direction they want to go.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 11>He gave them a lot of good moments this year.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 11>The guy I think, you know, there's a couple of

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 11>guys on that list you just mentioned that are very interesting.

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 11>I think Martina is probably gone. The reason is that

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 11>he just doesn't fit what they need at a level

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 11>that the salary is going to have to justify. So

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 11>if he gets fifteen million a year, if you're a

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 11>reliever making fifteen million a year, you better be a

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.360
<v Speaker 11>star closer. And that's not really the way the Reds

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.439
<v Speaker 11>like to use him. If you're a starter, you better

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 11>be close to you better be a number probably a

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 11>number two starter, And they really don't have an opening

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 11>there for him that role. So but the guy, you know,

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 11>a couple of guys I look at on that list.

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 11>It's going to be interesting to see what they do

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 11>with Andrew Harr. He's a guy that they picked up

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 11>late in the just before the deadline from from the Athletics.

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 4>They gave up a.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 11>Prospect to get him, and he really delivered big. I mean,

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 11>that guy can just flat out hit. So I look

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 11>at and I go, how much is he really going

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 11>to cost to bring back on it? Maybe a one

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 11>or two year deal. He's got some limitations. He's not

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 11>a good defensive player. You can play him in left field.

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 11>You probably could play him some at first base, but

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 11>you really don't have a need for him to play

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.879
<v Speaker 11>first base. He's more of a d H type guy.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 11>But he hit what he hit for the Reds, like

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 11>three point fifty or something like that in the time

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 11>he was with the Reds, and so you know, maybe

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 11>he's a guy you could get back for three to

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 11>four million. Maybe I'm just taking a guest here. That

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 11>would be a good economic bring back if he could

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 11>get him there, because he was a middle part of

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 11>the older kind of guy. And uh, it'll be interesting

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 11>to see if they really want to do that. Again,

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 11>he's got some limitations because he's not going to really

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.399
<v Speaker 11>help you as a as a defensive player, and he's

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 11>not he's not a guy that you can use and

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 11>expect him to do a lot of the basis he

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 11>doesn't have great speed, but he can flat out hit.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 11>So that's an interesting decision they're going to have to

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 11>make there is how much is too much? Uh, And

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 11>and that's that's an interesting one. Emilia Pagan of course,

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 11>also I think he made eight million this year. It

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 11>make Bobby at least that you know, Tony Santion has

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 11>shown that he probably is ready to take over that

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 11>closer role. Codder Phillips I think showed that he could

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 11>move in that eighth inning role. Bram Ashcraft maybe could

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 11>could challenge for that also, hopefully or at least continue

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 11>to be a seventh inning guy. You could probably overcome

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 11>the loss of a Pagan if you thought that he

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 11>was a little too expensive to bring back. And then

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 11>you know, you talked about latel again probably going to

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 11>be too pricey. Burns Chase Burns probably going to be

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 11>a starter next year. See a rotation barring any injuries,

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 11>is probably pretty well set with Green and Abbott, Lodolo,

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 11>Singer and Burns. There's your starting five right there. So

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:20.439
<v Speaker 11>they may not bring let's all back. Who knows. Maybe

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 11>they see it differently than I do, but I think

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 11>I'm really looking at Andrew, Horror and Hayes and wondering

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 11>how they feel about those two guys. How high would

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 11>they go? And again, just because you don't exercise the

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 11>option doesn't mean that you can't still go ahead and

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 11>negotiate a deal.

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 2>You're exactly right. And I'm eager to see what happens

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 2>with the ret Louder and his health. And he's got

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>to get healthy and see where he can be a

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 2>part of this club because he's a tremendous talent and

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 2>we never saw him this year.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 11>I mean, they've invested a first round pick in him,

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 11>and he said, that's a guy. You need to be

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 11>a star, not just a good player, but a star.

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 11>And everything was point in the right direction. Then he

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 11>missed the whole year with injuries, multiple injuries, nothing that

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 11>would be too serious in terms of there's no surgery

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.320
<v Speaker 11>involved in tech. He's going to pitch in the Arizona

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.800
<v Speaker 11>Fall League, at least that's the plan at this point,

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 11>and that would be good to see that happen and

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 11>get him healthy, get him back on the mound, get

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 11>some innings, make up for some lost time. And again,

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 11>that's a guy you've invested a tremendous amount in in

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 11>terms of draft capital. You used your first round pick

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 11>on him. You need him to become a quality number two,

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:38.320
<v Speaker 11>number three starting pitcher. And so that by no means

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:39.800
<v Speaker 11>are you ready to give up on Louder.

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Tom Nichols is with us for a couple more minutes,

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the director of broadcasting and the voice of the Dayton Dragons,

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 2>and we talk about Sal Stewart, what a spark he

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>was when he finally got called up September one. He

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 2>was a major reason why this team made the playoffs.

0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 11>You know, you've heard me talk about Sal for a

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 11>lot long time because we had Salad Dayton, and I

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 11>saw the skills south Stewart was not a player drafted

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 11>where he was taken based on athleticism and tools. He

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 11>was drafted where he was taken, which was supplemental first round,

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.280
<v Speaker 11>the picks between the first and second round, so somewhere

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 11>around the I think thirty eighth pick or so, somewhere

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 11>in that range. That's a high pick. That's a million

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 11>dollars signing bonus or much more actually, more like two

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 11>to three million. And he was taken based on baseball skills,

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 11>which is what we like to see out there, a

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 11>guy who actually can go out there and produce, and

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 11>that's South Stewart. He's an extremely smart player. You saw

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 11>his plate discipline. He struck out more times than you're

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 11>going to see him strike out down the road in

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 11>this short month or so with the Reds. He's not

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 11>a guy that's got a lot of strikeouts, and that's

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 11>something he'll correct. He is a flat out pure hitter,

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 11>very smart player. As I mentioned, I asked him one time.

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 11>I said, because it didn't take long when he out

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 11>to Dayton to see that he had an extremely high

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 11>baseball IQ. And I said, you had some great coaching

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 11>somewhere along the way in terms of you know, his

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 11>dad was a coach, but his dad was a basketball coach,

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 11>so his baseball coach was was someone else, but he

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 11>learned the game and plays the game at a very

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 11>intelligent level, very aggressive, plays with a chip on his shoulder.

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 11>And you know, I asked him one time, Chick about

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 11>the fact that when he was drafted, the day he

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 11>was crafted, everybody was saying he's going to have to

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 11>move to first base. And Sal's attitude at that time was,

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 11>those are people that don't know what they're talking about.

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 11>And he is a lot more athletic than people give

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 11>him credit for. He saw some diving catches, you saw

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 11>some good defensive plays. Now he's not at Cabrian Hayes

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 11>by any means, but he can play third, he can

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 11>play first will I'm sure, even though he thought that

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 11>was a terrible idea of moving the first base when

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 11>he was drafted. If you said Sal, you can play

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 11>first base in the big league, they'd say, I'll play

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 11>first base. But where they put him next year is

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.319
<v Speaker 11>going to be a very very interesting decision because it's

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 11>going to depend a little bit on who comes back

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 11>and who and where there's a spot. I would say,

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 11>in my opinion that if everyone came back, he's your

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 11>everyday first baseman and you play Spencer Steer probably in

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 11>left field or somewhere. Steers capable of playing a lot

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 11>of positions, but South Stewart's the guy that I think

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:26.839
<v Speaker 11>is your future star. Get him in the lineup every

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 11>day at one position and make him a guy that's

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 11>going to lift you to that level someday down the

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.760
<v Speaker 11>road where you can you can compete with the big boys,

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 11>the Dodgers and the Phillies and so forth. And Tom,

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 11>that's want to be an interesting decision.

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 2>It really will be. Gosh, thank you so much for

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>your time. We've got to run. Really appreciate it and

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll catch up soon. Thank you. Tom Nichols, the director

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 2>of broadcasting and the voice of the Dayton Dragons. This

0:51:55.680 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 2>is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk seven hundred WLW seven thirty

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 2>eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati. This is Chick

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Ludwigs Sports Talk until nine o'clock tonight. And my next

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 2>guest is a Cincinnati Bengals offensive lineman legend, an offensive

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 2>lineman legend for the Cincinnati Bengals, and he joins me

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>as a co host tomorrow night Bengals postgame sports Talk

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>at Wings and Rings, Crestview Hills, Kentucky. Twenty eight oh

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>nine Dixie Highway. Come on out and meet the Chickster

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 2>and my next guest, the one and only Bruce Kazerski.

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Cause how are we doing tonight.

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 4>Chick I'm doing great, great, great to hear from you.

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.839
<v Speaker 4>Always nice to talk to you. You're crazy. You got

0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 4>some great fans. Let's get this going.

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic man, And I told the fans out there, we're

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna have some fun tonight. And Bruce, it's funny how

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.399
<v Speaker 2>one play can change a game. And I'm looking at

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 2>the Denver Bengals game and the Bengals are driving. They're

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>down seven to three of what a thirty plus yard

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 2>passed the t Higgins, and all of a sudden, it's

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 2>called back because Amarius Mims is just a little too

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 2>far off the line of scrimmage, a penalty that refs

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 2>never called, but it might be a point of emphasis

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 2>this year. And it just seemed like at that point

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 2>then the penalty started coming and the Bengals went right downhill.

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 2>It was brutal to watch. And they've got to come back.

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 4>To call that the Kansas City rule. They got a

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 4>right tackle, who's off the ball every play? Yes, all right?

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 4>And he's illegal because he's technically moving every play, and

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 4>so if the league doesn't stop it, then it's only

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna get worse. That's the way the league works. It

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 4>gets worse. Yes, And so we got one in a

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 4>situation where he knew. You know what, I got no

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 4>sympathy for the guy because he knew that that was

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.919
<v Speaker 4>going to be called eventually. Now guys get what they can.

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:14.399
<v Speaker 4>They still they want to get every advance they possibly can.

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:19.359
<v Speaker 4>Was he warned, That's the question. Was he warned that

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be a penalty? Hey, you got to get

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 4>up on the ball. I'm gonna call this. Because if

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:26.280
<v Speaker 4>he was warned and it was still called, I got nothing.

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 4>I got nothing for him.

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Kazerski. When I think of the STEM and we're

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 2>talking science, technology, engineering, and math, I think of you

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<v Speaker 2>and the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts. Man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just an incredible career and using all that math as

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<v Speaker 2>a head football coach at Holy Cross High School in

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Kentucky. And Man, all I know is the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>have to give a supreme effort tomorrow because if they

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<v Speaker 2>look like they did the last two weeks on the

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<v Speaker 2>road at home here tomorrow, are we gonna see torches

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<v Speaker 2>and pitchforks on the way down to pay Course Stadium.

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you don't look for sympathy in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't look for sympathy from anybody to let alone then

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<v Speaker 4>Campbell under the Detroit Lions. They're gonna come in here

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<v Speaker 4>and they're gonna put up every point they can possibly

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<v Speaker 4>put up. They're gonna go for every fourth down they

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<v Speaker 4>could possibly make, and they are gonna try to bury you.

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<v Speaker 4>And if we're not up to the challenge, if our

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<v Speaker 4>linemen on both sides of the ball don't grow up

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<v Speaker 4>become men, it's gonna be ugly. I mean they're they're

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<v Speaker 4>grown men, and they're and they're playing hard, but there's

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<v Speaker 4>something missing. There's something missing, whether it's the coordination or

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<v Speaker 4>the intensity, but there's something missing. Now you can call

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<v Speaker 4>it Joe Burrow. You can say you can talk about

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow being being absolent, being missing, but but you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, he didn't get any time, So why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>we expect this guy to get any time?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jake Browning, And if.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't run the ball in this league, at any level,

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<v Speaker 4>you got really no chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought that an offensive lineman loves to go

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<v Speaker 2>forward and not backward. And don't you love to run block?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, and you and I heard your interview.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fantastic with Dave Lapham in the Trenches the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast first our logistics and you talk about this being

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<v Speaker 2>a mono imano in the trenches kind of sport.

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<v Speaker 4>This it is. First of all, I want to congraduate

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<v Speaker 4>day want a tremendous curve career and going into the

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<v Speaker 4>ring of and honor fame. That's that's fantastic. Good for him.

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<v Speaker 4>There's more, there's more guys, plenty of guys qualified, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's he's certainly at the top of that that mountain.

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<v Speaker 4>He's as he was a fantastic player, and he's there's

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<v Speaker 4>no nobody else dies orange or or bleeds orange like David.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just fantastic. I love he listened to him and

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<v Speaker 4>he's a great friend of mine. But he deserves everything

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<v Speaker 4>he gets now. In terms of absolutely, if you can't

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<v Speaker 4>win your one on one battles, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>You you can't double team in this league. They send

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<v Speaker 4>enough bodies at the quarterback to make you block Manham.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why they do it. Back in the day, they

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<v Speaker 4>they'd rush three or four guys. Maybe they blit occasionally,

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<v Speaker 4>but nowadays they're putting eight guys in the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 4>If you can't and figure out who's coming who's not,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't. You can't do it, and you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do it on a fly because they're sending a like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, they're they're coming from all different angles and

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<v Speaker 4>everybody can rush the quarterback anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm seeing opposing running backs get to the outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing wide receivers settle into zone coverage, uh wide open,

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<v Speaker 2>and our passes on offense, everything seems to be contested

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<v Speaker 2>and towards the sidelines. So it's, uh yeah, you're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>Something is missing. And I just want to see great

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<v Speaker 2>effort tomorrow because would they be so NFL like if

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals pull the upset on the Lions, it would

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<v Speaker 2>just be so.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be it sho. I appreciate. I appreciate slowing

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<v Speaker 4>the offense down early in the game, finding out what

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<v Speaker 4>they could possibly do against you. Giving them yard is

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 4>giving them yards. When you're get in the red zone,

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<v Speaker 4>you hold and go Fieterbal. I can appreciate that for years,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the way the game was played. But your defense

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<v Speaker 4>is not matching your offense, and your offense is not

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<v Speaker 4>helping your defense. I mean, there was a game not

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<v Speaker 4>too long ago where we gave up more points than

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<v Speaker 4>our offense than our defense did. Yes, and so what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying is, and you know, I think the Bengals

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<v Speaker 4>have to be more aggressive on defense early because their

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 4>offense is struggling with so much Early. If the offense

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<v Speaker 4>struggles and the defense plays safe and gives up yards

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<v Speaker 4>after the yards after yards, offensually are going to give

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<v Speaker 4>field goals or eventually they're going to give a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 4>and now we're in the whole. I think the defense,

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<v Speaker 4>I like the scheme. I think they're playing well times,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think early in the game they need to

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<v Speaker 4>be more aggressive and get after the quarterback and get

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<v Speaker 4>after the running games. Sometimes these blitzes are run defense

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<v Speaker 4>are run blitz. Yes, you can't sit in the l

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<v Speaker 4>you can't sit there anymore and run a basic four

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<v Speaker 4>man front, three linebackers and stop the run because there's

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<v Speaker 4>too many gimmicks out there. You have to get after

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<v Speaker 4>it and play the run in the backfield. And you

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<v Speaker 4>know we've been playing it safe because Joe Burrow is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna score a lot of points. Well, this is not

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<v Speaker 4>Joe's offense anymore, at least not for three months. I

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<v Speaker 4>hope he come back. I hope we're still in the

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<v Speaker 4>race when he does come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right, because yeah, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>In it when he does come back. We got a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right, Bruce Kazerski. If you can't run the

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<v Speaker 2>football in this league, you're you're in trouble because no team,

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<v Speaker 2>no team that's passing forty and fifty times a game,

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<v Speaker 2>is going to win.

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you, I can tell you right now

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<v Speaker 4>that we were great pass blockers because we were amazing

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<v Speaker 4>run blockers. That's the bottom line. If you look at

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<v Speaker 4>the at the the three years that we were the

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<v Speaker 4>best offensive line of football, it's because we could run

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<v Speaker 4>the ball and you knew it was coming and you

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't stop it. We put two forty on Seattle in

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<v Speaker 4>the playoff game and they couldn't stop it. They had

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<v Speaker 4>the lineman that Joe Nash laid on the ground to

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<v Speaker 4>stop our running game on the third down. He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>let us. He would pretend he was hurt. I know

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<v Speaker 4>Joe from college. I was a Joe. That's embarrassing, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>I know college, but the coaches telling me to do

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<v Speaker 4>it because they couldn't stop our running game. They had

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<v Speaker 4>no chance in our play action passes none.

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<v Speaker 2>And Boomer was the best at that, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>He was fantastic. That. Yeah, it's not it's not just

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<v Speaker 4>it's not just automatic. Boomer was great. Dam would stand

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<v Speaker 4>twenty yards downfield behind our defense and he would tell

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<v Speaker 4>us every day he said, if I can see it,

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<v Speaker 4>the defense could see it. If it's it's not good

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<v Speaker 4>enough if they can see it. So he would have

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<v Speaker 4>is running over and over and over until a defense

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't see the ball. Fake Bruce, that was perfection.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Bruce Gazerski played for the Bengals from nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four to nineteen ninety five, twelve years and as

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<v Speaker 2>a ninth round draft pick. Today, Bruce, gosh, you'd be

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<v Speaker 2>an undrafted college free agent at a holy Cross.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a free agent, got to be a free agent

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<v Speaker 4>and getting what and what kind of look would I've gotten?

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<v Speaker 4>You know? I thank God every day And Jim McNally

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<v Speaker 4>has become a very close friend of mine and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>that played for him. He is an amazing man. Jim

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<v Speaker 4>McNally was our offensive line coach and you know, chick

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<v Speaker 4>something you don't know maybe Mammy. Many don't know by

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<v Speaker 4>Jim McNally, but he was. He was a college coach

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<v Speaker 4>the year that Marshall plane crashed. He was the first

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<v Speaker 4>offensive line coach hired after the plane crash. Wow, he was.

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<v Speaker 4>He was on site right after the plane crash and

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<v Speaker 4>he led that program back with his offensive toy and

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<v Speaker 4>he did the same thing here. He drafted Anthony Munios

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<v Speaker 4>was the first round pick. But you go down to

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of that group. Bruce Reimers was a seventh

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<v Speaker 4>round pick. I was a ninth round pick. Max Montoya

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<v Speaker 4>was a sixth round pick. Joe Walters was a sixth

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<v Speaker 4>round pick. And you know what, it's not where you're pick,

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<v Speaker 4>it's how you play. He made us better. He made

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<v Speaker 4>us better.

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<v Speaker 2>And man, what are we expecting tomorrow? They've got two

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic running backs, a quarterback that likes to throw the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>just tremendous versatility, great balance, and we're gonna the Bengals're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to match that and match their physicality.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they can run the ball, they can throw it

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<v Speaker 4>at anybody. You know, Amina Ross Brown is a great

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<v Speaker 4>a great receiver they have. They have several fantastic receivers.

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<v Speaker 4>But what makes them more dynamic is the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>they have two great running backs and an offensive line

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<v Speaker 4>as good as there is. Those guys know how to

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<v Speaker 4>plow the road. We're coming through and you can't stop us.

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<v Speaker 4>That right tackle. I'm glad we took Jamarches. Don't get

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<v Speaker 4>me wrong, but that right tackle was worthy of a

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<v Speaker 4>first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, then a sewell, no doubt. So, yes, he really

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<v Speaker 2>is and hard to say what to expect, but to

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<v Speaker 2>know going in that you are a ten and a

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<v Speaker 2>half point home underdog. That makes me if I ever gambled,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't, I would put some coin on the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>at least the cover. But it'd be so like the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL toa have the Bengals win tomorrow because it's any

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<v Speaker 2>given Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you know, check the that's one hundred percent true,

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<v Speaker 4>and you would expect the Bengals to cover. But my

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<v Speaker 4>concern and I follow the lines a lot because one

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<v Speaker 4>of their linebackers played for me at holy Cross and Covington.

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<v Speaker 4>Derek Barnes, he's a phenomenal player. And I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Campbell was telling those guys all the way long,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the league where there is no mercy. We're

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<v Speaker 4>coming after the Bengals. We're gonna We're gonna get out

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<v Speaker 4>there and if we can score a hundred, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>score a hundred and and that's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And they have a firm belief that they can stop anybody,

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<v Speaker 4>and they can put points upon anybody. And that's why

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna compete for a world championship this year. That's

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<v Speaker 4>how good they can be now. And the Bengals match

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<v Speaker 4>that intensity tomorrow. Can the offensive line play good enough

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow to give the quarterback a chance to throw? Can

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<v Speaker 4>they block some running plays, give them some room to run.

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<v Speaker 4>That's gonna be the challenge. That's gonna be the challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, because they've got to get Chase Brown going, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt, because he's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred yards in five games or four games.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, brutal, and then it's going.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm praying for this team. I love the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the organization. I hope they do well. It's

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<v Speaker 4>exciting when they win. It's you know, water cooler fodder.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, every time they win, you talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>Bengals all week long and the week goes faster at work.

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<v Speaker 4>But right now they got to play better because they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have an easy game on the schedule. It's the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's good.

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<v Speaker 2>When you win, that week goes by like three days.

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<v Speaker 2>When you lose, it feels like two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like two weeks. It really does, no matter

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<v Speaker 4>what job you have, No matter what job you have.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a football fan, you know the years, for

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<v Speaker 4>years and years and years, and when the Reds were bad,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd say, God, I can't wait the football season start.

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<v Speaker 4>Well now, actually the Reds made the playoffs, so you're

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<v Speaker 4>excited a little bit now they lost, But the Bengals are.

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<v Speaker 4>They just got to prove something this week. This is

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<v Speaker 4>a statement game. They got to come out and prove

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<v Speaker 4>something this week.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt, because they've got talent. There's no doubt. What

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<v Speaker 2>bothers me is watching a little bit of film and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a three man Denver front and the two defensive

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<v Speaker 2>ends meet at the quarterback with a three man front,

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<v Speaker 2>just a three man rush, and the two the two

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<v Speaker 2>defensive ends meet at Jake Browning blowing right past the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive tackles, and well, I hate to say a team

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<v Speaker 2>is I hate to say a team is soft or

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals soft.

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<v Speaker 4>If you draw an X in the backfield and say

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<v Speaker 4>our quarterback is going to be standing right here, come

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<v Speaker 4>and get them. They're going to get them. Whether they

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<v Speaker 4>rush three or four guys, they're going to come and

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<v Speaker 4>get them. If you move your quarterback different spots, the

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<v Speaker 4>run action passes, the play action pass. But how does

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<v Speaker 4>the run action work or a play action work when

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<v Speaker 4>there's no running game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Ib you go for a third and one in shotgun?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where you got to run ten yards to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you can't. You can't. There's too much patrations.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't people long enough to not tackle him in

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<v Speaker 4>the backfield. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot to look forward to tomorrow to watch and listen.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we're on at from nine to eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Wings and Rings normally closes at ten on Sundays, but

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<v Speaker 2>they are staying open for us in Cresview Hills. Come

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<v Speaker 2>on out meet the Great Bruce Kazerski twenty eighth nine

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<v Speaker 2>Dixie Highway, Say hi to the Chickster and get Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>Kazerski's autographed tomorrow night, nine to eleven, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have some fun. We're gonna break it down like a

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<v Speaker 2>wrecking ball.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited to be there. I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I got things going during today. My grandson's

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<v Speaker 4>a baseball player. I'm gonna watch get home in time

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<v Speaker 4>to watch the Bengals game. I hope they win. They

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<v Speaker 4>will have a whole bunch to talk about. Exciting and

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<v Speaker 4>AR will have a you know, we'll have to have

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<v Speaker 4>a beverage and say, hey, chick this goouna be a

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<v Speaker 4>long ear buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, And we will break it down like a

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<v Speaker 2>wrecking ball and we will be running through walls with

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<v Speaker 2>snot bubbles for Jimmy Anderson.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. We we just hope we can be complimentary. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that would be ultimate, the complimentary. They played great today,

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<v Speaker 4>they won the game. It'd be a great team, fantastic

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<v Speaker 4>we're on the road. That'll be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge, absolutely huge. Bruce, You've been kind with your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much and look forward to working with

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, see tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you, Thank you. Bruce Kozerski twelve years a Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>Bengal on a great offensive line that made the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight Super Bowl. He played for the Bengals from

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty four through nineteen ninety five on a great,

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<v Speaker 2>great offensive line with Anthony Munoz, Max Montoya, Bruce Rymers,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Walter. Awesome. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk. Get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>After the top of the hour news, the popular game

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<v Speaker 2>Chick Magnets. Are you ready, the loyal listeners. You'll call

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<v Speaker 2>in and I will ask you questions. At five, one, three,

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<v Speaker 2>seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred the Big

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<v Speaker 2>One Chick Ludwig Sports Talk with tonight's producer Shoeless Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Waddell on seven hundred WLW, eighth nine in the Queen

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<v Speaker 2>City of Cincinnati. Chick Lugwig, seven hundred WLW. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk. Joe Waddell is tonight's producer. We are going

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<v Speaker 2>all the way to nine o'clock tonight right here on

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<v Speaker 2>the Big One, and I promised all the loyal listeners

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<v Speaker 2>of seven hundred WLW, the Big One and all the

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<v Speaker 2>chick Magnets that we were going to have some fun tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fun starts right now with the popular game

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<v Speaker 2>show known as Reverse Radio, where the callers call in

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<v Speaker 2>at five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred the Big One and I ask you questions,

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<v Speaker 2>and we start tonight with Lincoln in Covedale. Lincoln, Hello, check, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for Reverse Radio?

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<v Speaker 9>I absolutely am, and check if you don't mind. Two

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<v Speaker 9>very good friends of mine asked me to say hello

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<v Speaker 9>to you. You're cousins Julie and Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's awesome. Hey, I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, well, I told him I've been calling in and

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<v Speaker 9>they said, just ask me, would you talk high?

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic? Please tell them I say hello too.

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<v Speaker 4>You got it all right? Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, my dad was one of thirteen. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've got cousins, nephews, nieces all over the place. Fantastic, wonderful. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>are you ready for the first for your question?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could have an all expense paid and a

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<v Speaker 2>ticket to any sporting event in the world, what would

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<v Speaker 2>it be? And why?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, any trip all spender's paid one ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Or two tickets, you can take a guest. Yeah, where

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<v Speaker 2>would you like to go?

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<v Speaker 9>Or two tickets? Well, check you out from on the

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<v Speaker 9>West Side. And I love baseball and it would be

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<v Speaker 9>to the world to a World Series game with me

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<v Speaker 9>and my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>How about a game seven World Series?

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<v Speaker 9>That would be it fantastically and preferably the Reds.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt, no doubt about that. Fantastic stuff. Lincoln, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I appreciate talking to you, and I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 9>you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Lincoln, Thank you so much. All Right, Sue is

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<v Speaker 2>on the line. Me, Sue, how are you.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I'm doing fun, but I'm sort of got TV

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<v Speaker 12>on and you so pop the question. I'll see if

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<v Speaker 12>I can answer it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I know that you are a Cincinnati fan, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>sports fan.

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<v Speaker 5>Mh.

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<v Speaker 2>You love the Reds and I would imagine and I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine you like the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, yeah, but I'm more uh curious with the Reds

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<v Speaker 12>the Bengals just as long as they win. And you

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<v Speaker 12>have a good outing over in Elsmere, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's in Cresview. Hills tomorrow from nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>PP.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, there's so many Okay, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Would you prefer a World Series championship for

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<v Speaker 2>your Cincinnati Reds or a Super Bowl title after three

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<v Speaker 2>losses by the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I guess since the Reds did lose, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 12>Hopefully the Bengals do get to the Super Bowl, but

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<v Speaker 12>they've got to watch the number are games that they

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<v Speaker 12>lose now and also why, I'll tell you one thing.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm very disappointed at Chicago loss today. That's that's my

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<v Speaker 12>act question and answer. Either or I'm disappointed in the

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<v Speaker 12>rest because I stayed up almost till twelve thirty and

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<v Speaker 12>one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a loyal fan, all right, Sue, Hey, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 12>You're tired today, but anyway, take care.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you very much. Awesome, Okay, all right, bye bye. Now, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got Grandpa Mike on the line from the gem

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<v Speaker 2>city of Dayton, Ohio. How are you, Grandpa Mike? How

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<v Speaker 2>are you sure?

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<v Speaker 5>Sory? Are you doing buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>All fantastic?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing great. I'm sitting up here at Deeds Park

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<v Speaker 5>right by the founds here in downtown Dayton and joint life.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful, wonderful. So you're doing good, amen, I'm on.

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<v Speaker 5>The air having related seventy first birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thanks so much. Yeah, approaching seventy, approaching seventy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you're July, Yes, sir, Mine dog Mine's August twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fantastic. All right, are you ready for your question? Grandpa?

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<v Speaker 2>If you could have, if you could hang with any

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<v Speaker 2>athlete for a day, present or past, who would it be?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's tough hang with any athlete.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, come on, chick, I've seen I've met a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Of guys in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And you may remember I talked to like guys. I

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<v Speaker 5>got guys or in Dragons now double at play, I

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<v Speaker 5>still talk to Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, man, I knew unitis. Any athlete I could hang

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<v Speaker 5>with for a day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 5>Muhammad Ali.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick story about Muhammad Ali at the nineteen ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl in Atlanta. Okay, you made him no, no close? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>At the nineteen ninety nine Super Bowl in Atlanta, naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>the night before the game, everyone's out at dinner, come

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<v Speaker 2>back to the team hotel and the media center, and

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<v Speaker 2>luckily I'm wearing my credentials, okay, because there's yellow caution tape,

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<v Speaker 2>police tape all over the place around the media headquarters. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I get inside, work my way down to the

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<v Speaker 2>media romee and off in a corner watching tell Vision

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<v Speaker 2>in front of about anywhere from fifty to one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>sports writers and broadcasters sitting on a couch is Muhammad Ali.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>That would have been awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, just to be there. Yeah, just being there and

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<v Speaker 2>just watching him, you know it was. It was awesome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why so cool. There was security everywhere, yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I'd love to talk to you about some

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<v Speaker 5>red stuff, some of the ideas I have, but I

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<v Speaker 5>know you don't have time for that. You get your

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<v Speaker 5>show to do, you know what. Lay it on me,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, Uh they need to Uh okay, you know

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<v Speaker 5>me being here dating every work at stadium, I'm still

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<v Speaker 5>at bricks and all that. And I talked to these guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I talked to John Michael Fail, I still talk to

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<v Speaker 5>Ruben Jay, Allen cam Collier. I don't talk. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>talk to the guys in the reds Ofphine because they

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<v Speaker 5>got okay, they got you guys and all the other

1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:04.680
<v Speaker 5>media they don't need an old man like me. Now, boy,

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't the media doing broadcasting, I'd be questioning them like crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, yeah, but anyway, Uh, they gotta make some trades.

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<v Speaker 5>They guy, they they have so many and I've seen

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<v Speaker 5>it in the past four or five years. They have

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<v Speaker 5>so many of the same type player. Look at a ball,

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<v Speaker 5>double a triple A. Uh, he was the majors. They

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<v Speaker 5>got guys they can plug in and might do well

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<v Speaker 5>for a while, but they don't have that outstanding guy

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<v Speaker 5>rage just jump in.

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<v Speaker 2>You need that difference maker.

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<v Speaker 5>But you got guys that have potential to be really

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<v Speaker 5>good ballplayers, so you trade some of them. They got,

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<v Speaker 5>they got so much talent. Their farm sits and believe

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<v Speaker 5>it or not, they told no one to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>Chat Neuga w into the playoffs. The Dragons won eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>of the last nineteen games this year. Yeah, and Louisville

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<v Speaker 5>they were like ten twelve games under five Blarner. But

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<v Speaker 5>that's fine. But they had people going back and forth

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<v Speaker 5>all the time. You never know who you're playing with,

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<v Speaker 5>right right, Yes, you really don't. But they make some trades.

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<v Speaker 5>I put Ellien Center, Ellien Center. It was Freedo left,

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<v Speaker 5>leave Marte and right. If you going to keep McLean,

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<v Speaker 5>move him to short. I don't care if he had

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<v Speaker 5>two hundred. Remember growing up in Baltimore, I remember when

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Lelanger played short for the Orioles. It was a

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<v Speaker 5>two twenty hitter. Yeah, the guy was a great defender

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<v Speaker 5>and he had many great times where nobody expect him

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<v Speaker 5>to come through.

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<v Speaker 4>But he did.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's that's McLean. That's McLean.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he needs a bounce back year, that's for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully he can get it. And Mike, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a run. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I appreciate it. Buddy, you'd be safe.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're Dayton.

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<v Speaker 5>Come see me at bricks. I'm there most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the mascot, theren Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fantastic, Thanks so much man. Bricks Bricks Ice Company

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<v Speaker 2>right across from uh Day air Ballpark in downtown Dayton.

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<v Speaker 2>Great place. Sure, it's a great day. Thank you you too. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be back with more. It is reverse radio. The

1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:36.000
<v Speaker 2>caller calls in and I asked the questions chick aloudwig

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW. They give it to prior. A huge

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<v Speaker 2>hole opens up, He's ready.

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<v Speaker 13>For the m tone touchdown Bearcats.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Dan Horde on the Bearcats Radio Network right here

1:21:10.760 --> 1:21:15.000
<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred WLW Evan Pryor going for a touchdown

1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty yards and that got the Bearcats started on their

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<v Speaker 2>way to a thirty eight to thirty victory over the

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<v Speaker 2>number fourteen ranked Iowa State Cyclones. And we are playing

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<v Speaker 2>the popular game show Reverse Radio, made popular by the

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<v Speaker 2>voice of the Cincinnati Bengals and the UC Bearcats, Dan Horde.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm turning to tonight's producer, Shoeless Joe Waddell. Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>are you ready? How are you doing? Chick fantastic? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Four players Joe in Major League Baseball history have hit

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred home runs or more? Can you name them?

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<v Speaker 2>Barry Bond's got me number one? Right? He is number one? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see you got Barry Bonds.

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<v Speaker 14>Hmm oh Babe, Ruth, duh, yes, Barry Bonds, Babe, Ruth.

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<v Speaker 14>Let's think here, we think of more modern or old school?

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<v Speaker 2>Old school? He is deceased. The next one on my

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<v Speaker 2>list here that wouldn't happen to be one, Henry Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>what it? Yes, it would Barry Bonds is first at

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred and sixty two Hammer and Hank Aaron is second.

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<v Speaker 2>It's seven fifty five. Babe Ruth is at seven fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you name the fourth Major League baseball player two

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<v Speaker 2>hit at least seven hundred home runs? I'm gonna cheat again,

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<v Speaker 2>and we think of modern or old school? He recently retired,

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<v Speaker 2>but pretty modern. He'll be headed to the Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame on a first ballot, first ballot, Hall of Famers.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's a clue. Here's a clue. Saint Louis Cardinals

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<v Speaker 2>and the Los Angeles Angels. Oh, Albert Pooles, stuh, you

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<v Speaker 2>got it?

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<v Speaker 14>Alb Pools, Yeah, that dude, Oh my god, Yes, I

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<v Speaker 14>can't believe I didn't get that sooner.

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<v Speaker 2>A monster, a monster. And while I've got you here,

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<v Speaker 2>now that the Reds have been eliminated from playoff contention,

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<v Speaker 2>who do you like in the American League and who

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<v Speaker 2>do you like in the National League to reach the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series?

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<v Speaker 14>To reach the World Series? Well, I'll start in the

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<v Speaker 14>American League. I think this is the year. I don't

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<v Speaker 14>know why, it's just a feeling. I think this is

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<v Speaker 14>the year the Seattle Mariners finally do it. I don't

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<v Speaker 14>know what it is. It's just someone's got me feeling

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<v Speaker 14>Seattle out of the AL.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously cal Rawley's having a really special.

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<v Speaker 14>Season, but they made a lot of really good moves

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<v Speaker 14>at the deadline to add to their depth.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like Seattle.

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<v Speaker 14>The l's a little bit tougher, just because I think

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<v Speaker 14>it's in general, a little bit tougher of a league.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, h you got Brewers beat the Cubs today nine

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<v Speaker 2>to three, and the Phillies have a three to nothing

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<v Speaker 2>lead over the Dodgers in the top of the third

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<v Speaker 2>inning in Philly.

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<v Speaker 14>I think normally I feel like you'd have to say

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<v Speaker 14>the Dodgers, but their bullpen, even against you know, the Reds,

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<v Speaker 14>really proved to be a weakness. I'm not sure they

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<v Speaker 14>have the pen to get them there. I like Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 14>so I'm gonna go Philadelphia versus Seattle World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I do like the Phillies. That's who I'm rooting

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<v Speaker 2>for because of one Kyle Schwarber, proud Hoosier, Yes, a

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<v Speaker 2>proud Hoosier, Middletown's favorite son. I got to meet Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>at a wedding reception in November of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>the most down to earth superstar on the planet. Believe me,

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<v Speaker 2>he is amazing, just amazing.

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<v Speaker 14>Walk past him at Kilroys on Kirkwood in Bloomington. I

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<v Speaker 14>was didn't talk to him, but you know, still, you

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<v Speaker 14>walking past someone like that, that's count for something, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't want to be that guy to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>google overhim and everything. But I approached him at the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>He got a soda and so did I and he

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<v Speaker 2>I introduced myself. He goes, Chick, I know who you are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So it was really cool and we had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple selfies taken together. Just a phenomenal guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the Seattle Mariners at ninety and seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to go with the Tigers because of John Warden,

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<v Speaker 2>my great friend who pitched for the Tigers in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight when they won it all. So great stuff there, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you, Yeah, appreciate you letting me hop on Chick Fantastic. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Reverse Radio five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>one eight hundred, the Big One. Don't be afraid call

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<v Speaker 2>in and I will ask you the questions. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Chickster Chick Ludwig with you till nine o'clock Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>on the Home of the Reds and the Best Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>coverage seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 15>Cats at their own eighteen yard line sort he catches

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<v Speaker 15>the shot gun snap. He's looking to throw cloats at

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<v Speaker 15>high and deep down for your stody with a catch,

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<v Speaker 15>crazy enough forty thirty, twenty fifty.

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<v Speaker 13>Down, five touchdown. There cat eighty two yards and it

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<v Speaker 13>takes your one.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 16>Kennedy flags coun believable. What a throw from Brendan Soresby.

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<v Speaker 16>He's been off a couple times today on that deep ball.

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<v Speaker 16>Couldn't place it any better on that one. They took

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<v Speaker 16>the aggressiveness of Iowa State, especially on the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>The safety comes.

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<v Speaker 10>Up good, he gets over the top, Soresby lays it

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<v Speaker 10>up and the rest is history.

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<v Speaker 2>What an unbelievable throw at the biggest moment in the

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<v Speaker 2>game from Brendan Soresby. That's Dan Horde and Tony Pike

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bearcats Radio Network today on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the Cincinnati Bearcats defeat the fourteenth ranked Iowa State

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<v Speaker 2>Cyclones thirty eight to thirty at Knippert Stadium, and as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as the clock time expired, students poured out onto

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<v Speaker 2>the field at Nippert. Just a phenomenal atmosphere today on

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful day for football at Knippert Stadium. In the

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<v Speaker 2>Bearcats win, and in that game you see led late

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<v Speaker 2>first half thirty one to seven, but Iowa State got

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<v Speaker 2>the double dip the scoring a touchdown on an untimed

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<v Speaker 2>play with no time left in the second quarter, got

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<v Speaker 2>the two point conversion, and then scored again on the

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<v Speaker 2>first drive of the third quarter to make this a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one to twenty two game. And with seven forty

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<v Speaker 2>to play, with the Bearcats nursing that thirty one to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two lead, U See's defense stops rock O Becked,

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State's quarterback on a fourth and one play at

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<v Speaker 2>UC sixteen yard line was seven forty to go, and

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<v Speaker 2>then on the ensuing drive eighty two yards from Brendan

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<v Speaker 2>Soresby to Caleb Goody, giving the Bearcats a thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty two lead. Iowa State scores late, gets the

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<v Speaker 2>two point conversion you see gets the on side kick

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't quite run out the clock, they had to punt

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<v Speaker 2>the ball and then on the final play of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for Iowa State to start later, latering the

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<v Speaker 2>football in an attempt to score, but the tight end

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<v Speaker 2>ran out of bounds. Game over. You see wins thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight to thirty. You see back in action next Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>at noon at home against UCF Central Florida and Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>on this date in Red's history, October fourth, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>way back to nineteen oh two, the Reds play what

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<v Speaker 2>you would call a farcical game against the Pirates in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati players did not want to play because a morning

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<v Speaker 2>rain turned the field into a quagmire a swamp, but

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh owner Barney Dreyfus, however, insisted on playing, and Red's

1:30:26.400 --> 1:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>manager Joe Kelly played most of his players at a

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<v Speaker 2>position in retaliation, outfielders Mike Donlin and Cy Seymour and

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<v Speaker 2>first baseman Jake Beckley. They were the pitchers in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>While Kelly and Seymour casually smoked cigarettes on the field

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<v Speaker 2>during the game, Pitcher Rube Vickers was used as a

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<v Speaker 2>catcher in the game, and Vickers allowed six pass balls,

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<v Speaker 2>which still stands as the modern Major League high for

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<v Speaker 2>one game. Pittsburgh one eleven to two, and Dreyfus returned

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<v Speaker 2>money to all the fans who had bought tickets to

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and the embarrassed Reds president Gary Herman returned

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<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati portion of the gate receipts to Dreyfus, so

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely crazy. On this date in nineteen forty, the Reds

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<v Speaker 2>lose the third game of the World Series seven to

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<v Speaker 2>four to the Detroit Tigers in Detroit, but the Reds

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<v Speaker 2>go on to win the nineteen forty World Series. On

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<v Speaker 2>this date, in nineteen sixty five, Dave Sissler is fired

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<v Speaker 2>as Reds manager by Bill de Witt. The successor was

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<v Speaker 2>not immediately named. On this date, in nineteen seventy, the

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<v Speaker 2>Reds win the second game of the National League Championship

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<v Speaker 2>Series three to one against the Pirates in Pittsburgh. On

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<v Speaker 2>this date in nineteen seventy five, the Reds win the

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<v Speaker 2>first game of the National League Championship Series eight to

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<v Speaker 2>three against the Pirates at Riverfront Stadium. And on this

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<v Speaker 2>date in nineteen eighty one, Mario Soto pitches a one

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<v Speaker 2>hitter against the Atlanta Braves at Riverfront Stadium in the

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<v Speaker 2>final game of the season. The only Atlanta hit in

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<v Speaker 2>the three to nothing Reds victory was a second inning

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<v Speaker 2>single by Chris Shambless. All happened on this date, October

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<v Speaker 2>four in Cincinnati Red's history and speaking of Bill to Wit,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the owner of the Reds back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five, on December ninth of that year, he traded

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Robinson to the Baltimore Orioles for a trio of

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<v Speaker 2>players Milt Pappis, Jack Balchin, and Dick Simpson. Papus while

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<v Speaker 2>end up going thirty and twenty nine in his career

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<v Speaker 2>in three seasons with the Reds, DeWitt felt the club

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<v Speaker 2>needed more pitching, so they acquired Pappus and Jack Balchin,

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<v Speaker 2>and all they did was get rid of a perennial

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<v Speaker 2>All Star in Frank Robinson because DeWitt called him an

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<v Speaker 2>old thirty You've heard this story before. And all Frank

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<v Speaker 2>Robinson did that following season nineteen sixty six was win

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<v Speaker 2>the Triple Crown with a three to sixteen batting average,

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine home runs and one hundred and twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>runs batted in winning the American League Triple Crown and

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<v Speaker 2>then leading He won the AL MVP that year along

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<v Speaker 2>with the Triple Crown and also led the Baltimore Orioles

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<v Speaker 2>to the World's Series. The absolute worst trade in Red's

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<v Speaker 2>history and arguably the worst trade in baseball history. It's

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<v Speaker 2>right up there. Hey, you're listening to Sports Talk with

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<v Speaker 2>your host Chick laud Week and tonight's producer Joe Waddell

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred wlwre.

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<v Speaker 15>Receivers go out to the right, two out to the left,

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<v Speaker 15>three down linemen for Cincinnati and everybody else back me

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<v Speaker 15>but six seconds to go back. Throws short over the middle.

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<v Speaker 15>Now one backward toss, so well has it? Throws it

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<v Speaker 15>backward to a tight end. Framer runs up the field

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<v Speaker 15>of the forty Hawk is hit zero. Framer runs out

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<v Speaker 15>of bounds and off. Bearcats are victorious. The student section.

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<v Speaker 13>Comes pouring out onto the field here at Niffert Stadium.

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<v Speaker 13>It is not an upset, It is an uprising. As

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<v Speaker 13>Cincinnati knocks off undefeated fourteenth ranked Iowa State by the

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<v Speaker 13>final score of thirty eight to thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Horde right here on seven hundred WLW with the

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<v Speaker 2>call the final play. Dan just does a phenomenal, phenomenal job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that simple. It's not an upset. It's an uprising.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that? That is fantastic And before we go

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<v Speaker 2>back out to the phones and Tom and Dayton, please

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<v Speaker 2>hang on for a second. Ohio State has charged out

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<v Speaker 2>to a twenty one to three lead on homecoming night

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<v Speaker 2>at the Shoe against the Minnesota Golden Gophers twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>to three at the six thirty five mark of the

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter after a Minnesota field goal, touchdowns by CJ. Donaldson,

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<v Speaker 2>a one yard run, Julian Saying with a six yard

1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>touchdown pass to Jeremiah Smith, and then Julian Saying with

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<v Speaker 2>a forty five four yard strike to Carnell Tate twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one to three Ohio State. And I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>a shout out to a gentleman by the name of

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<v Speaker 2>Phil Renfro, my new BFF, the newest Chick Magnets baseball

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<v Speaker 2>coach at Yellow Springs High School and they head girls

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<v Speaker 2>volleyball coach at Yellow Springs High School. I was there

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<v Speaker 2>with Greg King today this morning reffing JV varsity volleyball

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<v Speaker 2>against the Tri County North Panthers out of Louisbourg, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a great time and when the scorekeeper said, your

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<v Speaker 2>voice sounds familiar. Do you do radio and I said, yes,

1:36:47.240 --> 1:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>where WLW in Cincinnati, and she alerted the head coach

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<v Speaker 2>and we had a real nice discussion. Phil Renfro, quite

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<v Speaker 2>a guy multiple sports in the town that time forgot

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<v Speaker 2>Yellow Springs, Ohio, home of Antioch College, that was all

1:37:08.960 --> 1:37:12.479
<v Speaker 2>over the news during the Vietnam War. And they're still

1:37:12.520 --> 1:37:17.639
<v Speaker 2>protesting the Vietnam War in downtown Yellow Springs with their

1:37:17.680 --> 1:37:21.559
<v Speaker 2>tied eyed shirts. I absolutely love that town. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>out to the phones and welcome in Tom in Dayton, Hi, Tom.

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<v Speaker 17>Hi, Yellow Springs. That's funny, But I don't want to

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<v Speaker 17>be a downer. I'm very very happy you see one today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>but what bothers me is the students storm the field

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<v Speaker 17>and it seems to be okay. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 17>okay that students storm a football field, a basketball field,

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<v Speaker 17>a volleyball field.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not real wild about it. It's very dangerous. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a very dangerous exhibition.

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<v Speaker 17>Students, referees, the police. Yeah, I cannot approve that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope there was no damage done to the field,

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<v Speaker 2>to the stands or whatever, and hopefully everybody's all right,

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<v Speaker 2>because people get trampled when a field gets rushed and

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen.

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<v Speaker 17>It and that's my point. Yeah, yeah, I'll line up,

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<v Speaker 17>but yeah, I'm glad they won, but I cannot approve

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<v Speaker 17>students rushing the field any sport. All right, thank you, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Tom, appreciate your call. Thank you very much. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to ask, and I know it's going to the

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<v Speaker 2>reverse radio will work a lot better during the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that because fans are out out and about

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<v Speaker 2>on this beautiful Saturday, celebrating with family and friends or

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<v Speaker 2>watching college football, they're watching the baseball playoffs, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to update some Major League Baseball scores for you.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dodgers now have taken a five to three lead

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<v Speaker 2>over the Philadelphia Phillies, erasing a three to nze in lead.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find the yes. The Dodgers scored after

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<v Speaker 2>the Phillies scored three in the bottom of the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers scored two in the top of the sixth and

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<v Speaker 2>three in the top of the seventh, and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>it stands right now, in the bottom of the seventh inning,

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<v Speaker 2>five to three Dodgers. Earlier today, the Toronto Blue Jays

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<v Speaker 2>wiped out the New York Yankees in Toronto ten to one.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brewers at home defeated the Chicago Cubs nine to three.

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers have that five to three lead over the Phillies

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<v Speaker 2>and the inning in Seattle, the Mariners and the Tigers

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<v Speaker 2>no score. So playoff baseball. There's nothing quite like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we saw that. The intensity of the crowd at

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<v Speaker 2>Dodger Stadium, also known as Chavez Ravine, was incredible. You

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<v Speaker 2>just heard a constant den in that stadium watching those games.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't think the Reds were mentally or physically

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<v Speaker 2>ready to play Game one out in La in the

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<v Speaker 2>wild Card round, because they partied so hard on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>when they got in with the Mets loss to the

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Marlins, I wondered how sober they were for that game.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought they'd be more mentally and physically prepared

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<v Speaker 2>to play Game two, and really they were. And there

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<v Speaker 2>were times in that game where the percentage of them

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<v Speaker 2>winning was above fifty percent. When you load the bases

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<v Speaker 2>in the sixth inning with no outs and don't score,

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<v Speaker 2>that is just a crusher from a confidence standpoint. They

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<v Speaker 2>loaded the bases again in the eighth inning, but with

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<v Speaker 2>two outs in a strikeout. So listening to Tommy Thrall

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<v Speaker 2>earlier today with Sterling, and then listening to and listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Tom Nichols earlier this evening with me. Yes, we're

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<v Speaker 2>excited about next year in the prospects of this season,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are a lot of question marks. And it

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<v Speaker 2>all starts with who are they going to keep and

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<v Speaker 2>who are they going to let go? And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in a press box in Carolina at a Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers game and Sam Weish was there and I asked Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>because the Bengals were struggling with Dick lebou as the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, and I asked him, what should the Bengals do?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, find out who's helping you win and

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<v Speaker 2>keep them, find out who's helping you lose and get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of them. That's what the Cincinnati Reds have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're looking at a bunch of unrestricted free agents and

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Martinez, Wade Miley, Emelio Pegan, Zach Lettel, Miguel Andrewharr

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<v Speaker 2>and then you've got club options on Austin Hayes, Brent Souiter.

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<v Speaker 2>So the club has to figure out who they want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep and who they want to let go. And

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<v Speaker 2>I want to take this opportunity to thank tonight's producer

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<v Speaker 2>Shoeless Joe Waddell, and especially thank all the loyal listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>all the chick Magnets out there. I appreciate you, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for tuning in, and until next time, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>Chickster Chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening to the home

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<v Speaker 2>of the Reds and the best Bengals coverage. See you

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night at the Cristview Hills Wings and Rings from

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven. I'll be with Bruce Kazerski Bengals legend,

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<v Speaker 2>breaking it all down and what we hope will be

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<v Speaker 2>a Bengals victory over the Detroit Lions tomorrow on seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred WA LW