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Speaker 1: Six eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati, chick Ludwig

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Speaker 2: This is sports talk like Eric Carmen and the Raspberries.

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Speaker 2: We're going all the way to nine o'clock tonight. Now

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you to get involved. Let's have some

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Speaker 2: fun tonight. I don't know about you, but the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: attack with a smile on my face. Of course. What

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Speaker 2: a victory today chopping down number fourteen ranked the Iowa

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Speaker 2: State Cyclones at Knippert Stadium, Brendan Soresby passing for two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen yards and two touchdowns, Evan Pryor rushing

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and eleven yards and two touchdowns. You

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Speaker 2: on for dear life with some great defense and some

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Speaker 2: big plays on offense to beat Iowa State. Were you there?

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Speaker 2: What was it like at Knippert Stadium today? The Wrigley

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Speaker 2: Field of college football stadiums, fans, students pouring out onto

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Speaker 2: the field, an incredible celebration going on at the NIP

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Speaker 2: And how do you feel now about out Scott Saderfield

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Speaker 2: what a turnaround, A signature win. Last week arguably the

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Speaker 2: best of his career here in Cincinnati with the comeback

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Speaker 2: Iowa State's perfect record. What a victory it was. And

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Speaker 2: it took every second of sixty minutes to win this game.

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Speaker 2: You see ahead seventeen to nothing after the first quarter,

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Speaker 2: but an incredible fourth down stop in the red zone

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Speaker 2: on fourth and one, stopping rock O Becked and then

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Speaker 2: Soresby with an incredible eighty two yard touchdown pass. But

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Speaker 2: it still took recovering an on sidekick, and they still

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Speaker 2: had the punt before the game ended. Heart is beaten

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Speaker 2: like a big bass drum. Nineteenth nervous breakdown. Is this

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Speaker 2: thing unfolds? But the Bearcats hang on and what a

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Speaker 2: victory it was. You want to chime in five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: seven thousand, one eight hundred. The big one. How about

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Speaker 2: last night at the Pit Elder and Moler. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: hear from Kurt Roffing Elder's print after the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the hour news. I haven't seen a scene like that

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Speaker 2: haven't seen a more intense crowd, especially as students ready

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Speaker 2: for Moler last night credible? But how about the UC Bearcats. Hey,

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Speaker 2: We're eventually going to hear from Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legendary

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Bruce is going to join me tomorrow postgame

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Speaker 2: Sports Talk nine to eleven PM in Northern Kentucky. We'll

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Speaker 2: give out the site, we will give out the address.

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Speaker 2: Would love to have you stop by Wings and Rings

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Speaker 2: to hear and listen and watch the Chickster and Kazerski

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Speaker 2: breakdown what we hope will be a Bengals victory tomorrow

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Speaker 2: against the Detroit Lions. People are laughing at me right

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Speaker 2: now when I'm saying Bengals victory over the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: But wouldn't it just be so NFL. I am not

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Speaker 2: a gambling man, not at all, but if I was

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Speaker 2: Bengals tomorrow a double digit home dog. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: I not only look for the Bengals to cover, it

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Speaker 2: will be so NFL so any given Sunday for the

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Speaker 2: they put up anything short of a supreme effort tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: even in a defeat, pitchforks and what do you want

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Speaker 2: to call it? A march down to pay Court Stadium.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm not going to settle for anything less

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Speaker 2: out again by the Detroit Lions, it is absolute armageddon

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Speaker 2: very long season. People are already bailing at two and two.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it. Yes, the Lions are formidable, but

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Speaker 2: the Bengals got just kicked in the teeth the last

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Speaker 2: two weeks at Minnesota and then on Monday Night football

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Speaker 2: in Denver. It was embarrassing. They cannot come out and

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Speaker 2: play that again tomorrow night, four twenty five. Start all

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Speaker 2: the coverage right here on seven hundred WLW starting at noon.

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Speaker 2: What a crew gonna be an awesome day? It sure

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Speaker 2: was an awesome day today at Nippert Stadium. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: Tony Pike. When we come back. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: fun night here talking Reds, talking Bengals, talking Ucy football,

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Speaker 2: in the eight o'clock hour. And I'm warning you right

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Speaker 2: now get your thinking caps on, because we're gonna play

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Speaker 2: a game of a delightful game of reverse radio in

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have an awful lot of fun. Six sixteen

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Speaker 2: How about them Bearcats thirty eight to thirty over the

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Speaker 2: Iowa State Cyclones, who are now five and one, Bearcats

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Speaker 3: Bengals six point twenty one in the Queen City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: This is sports talk all fired up over the UC

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Speaker 2: Bearcats in their thirty eight to thirty victory over previously

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Speaker 2: the most critical play in this game came with seven

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Speaker 2: wants to talk a little bit about my alma mater

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Speaker 2: class of nineteen seventy two, the Elder Panthers, and how

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Speaker 4: How's it going?

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Speaker 5: Check?

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Speaker 4: It's uh you got Connor and Frank Lenmiller here on

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Speaker 2: The Panthers outstanding. What a game last night. I've never

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Speaker 6: What a scene it was.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and they're just elders, just aren't in everybody's respect.

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Speaker 4: So it's uh, it's gonna be fun to watch. We

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Speaker 4: got we got a lot of football in the future

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Speaker 2: You know, when I hear homecoming, I'm thinking of you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say a Patsy, but you bring

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Speaker 2: Kayden Easta, the quarterback of the Panthers, What a game,

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Speaker 2: what a gamer?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Leaders all over the field, I mean yes, on the

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Speaker 4: Got you got e Step, you got Ruth. It's just

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Speaker 2: And I hear they've got a good defense, they've got

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Speaker 2: good linebackers, they've got it, they've got it. Be awesome,

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Speaker 2: got it Old Molar to sixteen points.

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Speaker 6: Yep, it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be fun to

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Speaker 6: watch down the stretch. So we uh, we got high

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Speaker 4: Side of town.

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Speaker 2: And uh they could very well meet again in the

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Speaker 2: state football playoffs, couldn't They?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, and it'll be Uh it'll be another classic.

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Speaker 2: So man to beat Saint X last week on the

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Speaker 2: road and then to come home and beat Molar Man.

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Speaker 2: What what a couple of weeks here for the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: Yep, untouchable. I mean we got Highlands next week. So yes,

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Speaker 4: eat the ball, eat the ball.

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Speaker 2: Wrong outstanding Connor Man. Appreciate the call.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely check, I'll talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, take care, Say hi to Pops for me.

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Speaker 2: And yes, my Ohio State Buckeyes. And even though I

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Speaker 2: went to Ohio State graduated School of Journalism nineteen seventy six,

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Speaker 2: I'm a native of Cincinnati. I love the bear Cats.

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Speaker 2: They're getting me as fired up as I do against

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Speaker 2: Mark Christopher Junior and lee Ann, his bride. They're in

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Speaker 2: favorite taverns, the outer end, getting all fired up for

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Speaker 2: tonight's Buckeye game against the Minnesota Golden Gophers at Ohio Stadium. Gosh,

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Speaker 2: I'm there in spirit, but I am so glad to

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Speaker 2: be with you, the loyal listeners, and all the Chick

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Speaker 2: magnets out there. Hey, Dick and Dayton is calling. Come on, man,

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Speaker 2: lay it on me, buddy, lay it on me, Dick,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, you gotta say there, Kats are pretty good.

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Speaker 8: You know, that's pretty good for them to be the

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Speaker 2: Know, four and one, four and one, two and oh

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Speaker 2: yeah in two and oh in the big twelve.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you.

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Speaker 2: Gotta love it.

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Speaker 2: Now they've got UCF Central Florida from the old AAC days. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: coming into the next Man, they're loving these Saturday noon starts.

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Speaker 2: Another one next Saturday.

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Speaker 8: And you know another thing. We got to say something though.

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Speaker 8: The Reds, I mean, gave it all they could and

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Speaker 8: this maybe for next year, you know they'll be I

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Speaker 8: think they did a lot better. It would like we'd

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Speaker 8: like to see it. But I've got a question for you, Chick. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 8: you've covered the Bengals for years. Do you really think

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Speaker 8: now tomorrow is going to be their test? But they're

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Speaker 8: going to have to play good. But you don't want

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Speaker 8: to go zero in three? Do you think that it's

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Speaker 8: i'd know with Burrough gone, but do they have I

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Speaker 8: think they got a chance. But what's your opinion on tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: I'm going out on the limb and saying they win.

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Speaker 2: I really am. They've got blown out and embarrassed the

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Speaker 2: last two weeks. Now they're at home. They cannot play

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Speaker 2: to be torches and pitchforks on the way down to

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Speaker 2: have the last two weeks. I want to see effort,

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Speaker 2: effort at the very minimum. And you know what, Jick Dick,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say it. There's one word

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Speaker 9: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Soft? They are soft. They are allowing running backs to

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Speaker 2: get outside. They're allowing wide receivers to settle into wide

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Speaker 2: open areas in the zone. Okay, Whereas on offense, every

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Speaker 2: pass that is thrown by Jake Brown is contested?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Everyone, where where are the easy throws in first downs?

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Speaker 2: So and then the penalties come and it destroys your confidence.

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Speaker 2: And this team has to get its confidence back and

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Speaker 2: I like what Ted Carris the Center said. They own it,

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Speaker 2: they deserve the criticism, and it's time for them to

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Speaker 2: step forward tomorrow starting at four.

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Speaker 8: Well, have a good night, chick, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, appreciate it, Dick, Thank you, sir By.

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Speaker 8: Now, yeah, you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: All right. How about do you see Bearcats?

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Elder Stadium in West price Hill is

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Speaker 2: seventeen years. And here to tell us about it, Elder

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Speaker 2: Principal and CEO, Kurt Roffing. What a night Elder Nation

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Speaker 2: won't soon forget. Kurt, Welcome to seven hundred WLW. How

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well? How are you checking?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Fantastic? And what was it like inside that stadium

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Speaker 6: Let me start off.

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Speaker 9: It was crowded.

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Speaker 6: The atmosphere was just unbelievable, exciting for both sides. Moeller

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Speaker 2: And Kurt, I want to read to you a text

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Speaker 2: It was a Catholic prayer that included respect for each other.

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful, the weather, the atmosphere, the quality of

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever been so proud of Elder,

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Speaker 6: You set the tone, No, chick, I appreciate that, but

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Speaker 6: And I'm honored to be able to leave the school.

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Speaker 2: How about sixty nine folks jam into the pit and

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Speaker 2: the concession stands. Incredible and sixteen over sixteen thousand unique

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Network. And that's fifty percent of the winner

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what our Enn Elder News Network, what

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Speaker 6: our crew does. And when I say crew, I'm talking

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Speaker 6: I would have to say is I really appreciate everyone's

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Speaker 2: Better, no doubt about that. In props big time to

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Speaker 2: Kevin Spolidge, the director of athletics, and Adam Doole, the

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Speaker 2: How about Caden east Step the quarterback twenty one of

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Speaker 6: Kurt it is you know, during the school day, if

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Speaker 6: you know, you take this football team, you can't say

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Speaker 6: even better. They're all good kids. Yeah, you know, everyone

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Speaker 2: Our family, the Ludwigs like to say that the only

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Speaker 2: to leave. But really, in all seriousness, you you never

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Speaker 6: I agree, And that's what's so special about our alumni.

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Speaker 6: They just they keep that Elder pride going. And you know,

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Speaker 2: We like to say, Kurt Ruffing that we fight like

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Speaker 6: Our at where I live, our next door neighbor moved

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Speaker 6: Lyle, great, great guy.

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Speaker 2: And I grew up at the corner of West Ethan Rosemont,

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Speaker 6: What makes it so nice compared to most other stadiums

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so we elder now owns all the property behind

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's saying something. Man always looking to gosh,

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Speaker 6: Right, I'm currently in my ten years principal. So about

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Speaker 6: So the Skilled Trades program has really really been successful.

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Speaker 2: That is fantastic, Kurt, And hey, I really appreciate you

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Speaker 2: carving out time here. You're at a birthday party and

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Speaker 2: I know Doug. I'm sure Doug Ramsey has not come

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Speaker 2: And I just want to congratulate you, your staff, the students,

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Speaker 2: for just an incredible evening of gosh football last night

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Speaker 6: I agree, and Chick, thanks for having me and thanks

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Speaker 2: All right, Kurt, Kurt Roffing, thank you so much, the

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Speaker 2: And this is seven hundred WLW Welcome back to Sports

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Speaker 2: In the University of Cincinnati, Bearcats improved to four and

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Speaker 2: one overall, two to zero in the Big Twelve with

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Speaker 2: a thirty eight to thirty victory over fourteenth ranked Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Today and our very own Tony Pike caught up with

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Speaker 2: head coach Scott Sadderfield after the game.

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Speaker 10: Here they are, all right, coach, just talk about your

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Speaker 10: messaging to the team in there. Here comes the fourteenth

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Speaker 10: ranked team in the country. Very well, coach, very good

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Speaker 10: football team coming in. You guys get to win. What's

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Speaker 10: the immediate message to those guys?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I just you know, number one, I said,

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Speaker 7: I'm proud of you because the preparation, because it really

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Speaker 7: is the preparation throughout the week and our mentality we

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Speaker 7: talk about our process that we do each and every day,

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Speaker 7: and we take it one day at a time. A

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Speaker 7: lot of times people say, let's coach talk, but our

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Speaker 7: guys bought into that. They've done a great job of

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Speaker 7: taking care of their bodies and mentally preparing.

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Speaker 4: But that's how you you're.

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Speaker 7: Able to come out and you know what a thirty

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Speaker 7: one to seven ball game because our guys were fired

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Speaker 7: up mentally ready to go play. And I think that

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Speaker 7: was obviously the difference to be able to hang on

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Speaker 7: and get that win.

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Speaker 10: First half, you guys ran it for ninety eight more

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Speaker 10: yards than what they give up over the course of

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Speaker 10: a game. What allowed you guys to be so dominant

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Speaker 10: on the ground.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it started up front with their guys.

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Speaker 7: You know, they coming off the ball making some blocks

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Speaker 7: and I tell you it's the best I've seen our

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Speaker 7: running backs this year at tyle Wee Broke. I don't

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Speaker 7: know how many tackles today, was really trying to run

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Speaker 7: over their defensive backs. And Evan Pryor Man, he has

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Speaker 7: a great hit a great game as well. So both

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Speaker 7: our running backs I thought did an excellent job. I

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Speaker 7: thought Sowersby hit some good throws early in the game

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Speaker 7: to get you know, make some big plays, and completion

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Speaker 7: percentage wasn't there. But I think their running game really,

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Speaker 7: you know, really stood out. I think in that first

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Speaker 7: half for sure.

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Speaker 10: Second half you guys up nine running the ball, the

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Speaker 10: third and long, you take a chance eighty two yard

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Speaker 10: pass to Caleb Goody. What went into that play calling?

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Speaker 10: Obviously the execution you mentioned Sowersby wasn't as accurate all day,

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Speaker 10: but he makes the biggest play of the day.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a huge Well, you know, obviously we

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Speaker 7: were a little stagnant, I think offensive in the second half.

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Speaker 2: And rhythm had to do with it. They had the ball,

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 7: Forever, and then we went to a run of penalties,

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Speaker 7: you know, but I thought, right there we just needed

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Speaker 7: another score. And you know, we saw man coverage right there.

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Speaker 7: We had a play call that we've actually been running

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Speaker 7: all year. It's been a really good play for us,

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Speaker 7: and it happened to be man and we know Goodie

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Speaker 7: on that on their safety was a good matchup for us.

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Speaker 7: Thought Brendan the way a great ball. He put a

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Speaker 7: lot of air under it and allowed Goodie to run

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Speaker 7: underneath it. And the rest you know his history.

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Speaker 10: You guys get Dante Corleone back on the defensive side

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Speaker 10: of the ball, but they get a little momentum before

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Speaker 10: the half and then they score the double dip coming

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Speaker 10: out of the half. After that, your guy's defense was phenomenal,

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Speaker 10: multiple fourth down stops. What changed? What was the adjustment

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Speaker 10: that the defense was able to get off the field.

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Speaker 7: Well, at the end of the first half, we were

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Speaker 7: playing a little bit too loose coverage. You know, we

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Speaker 7: were dropping everybody off. We're playing our safeties back because

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Speaker 7: there wasn't much time left, just under a minute, and

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Speaker 7: they had some some plays on us and got a

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Speaker 7: couple of chunk plays. Next thing you know, they're down there.

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Speaker 7: And then you mentioned they got a fourth down play.

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Speaker 7: I think it hit two two point conversions today, and

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Speaker 7: you know, the fourth downs were huge, and we got

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Speaker 7: some timely stops today and we held them to a

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Speaker 7: couple of field goal opportunities and this one, you know,

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Speaker 7: But but I think overall, you know, the defense did

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Speaker 7: enough to win the game for us. We had some

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Speaker 7: big special teams play as well, two big returns to

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Speaker 7: get it past midfield, you know, and we won the game.

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Speaker 7: Even though you know, we had had that turnover, and

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Speaker 7: I think that was a timely turnover for us. We

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Speaker 7: had a good momentum right there on the plus territory.

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Speaker 7: We had a good play and just bobble the pitch

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Speaker 7: there on the option. But other than that, I mean, shoot,

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Speaker 7: I thought we played outstanding.

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Speaker 2: That's Tony Pike with University of Cincinnati Bearcats head football

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Speaker 2: coach Scott Saderfield. Bearcat's now four and one overall, two

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Speaker 2: and zero in the Big twelve. Hey, when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna talk some Reds baseball with the

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Speaker 2: voice of the Class A Dayton Dragons, Tom Nichols. I

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Speaker 2: hope you'll stay tuned. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk

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Speaker 2: with Joe Waddell, tonight's producer on seven hundred WLWY.

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Speaker 4: Seven eight in.

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Speaker 2: The Queens City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig seven WLW This

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Speaker 2: is sports Talk. We're going all the way to nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock tonight and we're carving out some time here to

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Speaker 2: talk Cincinnati Reds baseball. And we're bringing in the director

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Speaker 2: of broadcast and the voice of the Dayton Dragons, our

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Speaker 2: good friend Tom Nichols. Tom, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 2: us tonight. How are you.

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Speaker 11: I'm great, chick, Thanks for having me on your show tonight.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. Are you getting any rest from that

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Speaker 2: long minor league baseball season?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 11: I need some, that's for sure. We played one hundred

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Speaker 11: and thirty two game schedule this year and that's a

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Speaker 11: lot of games, not quite as many as the big

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Speaker 11: league club when you talk about rest, Chick. We had

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Speaker 11: a couple of late nights this week with the Reds

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Speaker 11: being out on the West Coast in the playoffs, So

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Speaker 11: those those were days where you tried to You went

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Speaker 11: in the next morning a little bit tired, but things

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Speaker 11: didn't go the way we hope, but good to see

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Speaker 11: the team did qualify for the playoffs, of course.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And really three West Coast trips what

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Speaker 2: like in the final month, so that that is really tough.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 11: It really was a tough schedule. It seemed like you

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Speaker 11: kept hearing as you got towards that final month to

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Speaker 11: six weeks if the Reds have the toughest schedule ahead

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Speaker 11: of them of any club. And of course I think

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Speaker 11: the four games sleep of the Cubs was probably the

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Speaker 11: one that in the end put them over the top,

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Speaker 11: but hopefully they got some you know, some good experience

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Speaker 11: out of what took place, even though the end results

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Speaker 11: were not what any of the fans or any of

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Speaker 11: the players wanted. But maybe it's a step forward in

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Speaker 11: the right direction heading into next year. And they've got

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Speaker 11: a lot of decisions to make between now and the

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Speaker 11: start of spring training next year based on the free

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Speaker 11: agents they have and also some players that maybe could

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Speaker 11: play multiple positions on the field that they have to

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Speaker 11: make some decisions on where to put them to stack

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Speaker 11: up the best lineup.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Tom And And just looking back

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Speaker 2: on the two games against the Los Angeles Dodgers, I

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Speaker 2: really thought the first game was going to be difficult.

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Speaker 2: They you know, they partied hardy on Sunday, and just

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Speaker 2: two nights later here they're going into Chavez Ravine. I

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Speaker 2: just thought the second game there, I thought they'd in

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Speaker 2: a much better physical and mental approach to that to

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Speaker 2: that game, and they did have their opportunities.

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Speaker 11: You now, as I look back on it, I wonder

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Speaker 11: if they've been able to clinch one day earlier and

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Speaker 11: and not had to play that Sunday game against Milwaukee,

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Speaker 11: and what at the time looked like a must wim situation.

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Speaker 11: Of course, they lost that game but still made it

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Speaker 11: because the Mets were shut out by the Marlins, but

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Speaker 11: you had to use some people. And the Dodgers, meanwhile,

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Speaker 11: they were able to prepare and and get their guys

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Speaker 11: ready to go and line up their starting rotation, and

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Speaker 11: the Reds weren't able really to do that. The Dodgers

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Speaker 11: maybe had just a little bit more of a ability

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Speaker 11: to get their guys rested and ready, and for the

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Speaker 11: Reds it was just another extension of what was already

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Speaker 11: a road trip to begin with. They were in Milwaukee

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Speaker 11: and then had to fly to Los Angeles, and those

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Speaker 11: West coast trips have always been hard for them. If

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Speaker 11: you think back over the years, it's it's always been.

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Speaker 5: A difficult.

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Speaker 11: You look at the series they had with the Athletics,

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Speaker 11: for ample, was a disaster and and that's not the

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Speaker 11: first time that's happened over the years, and those are

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Speaker 11: the tough trips for them. But again, the experience of

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Speaker 11: playing in big games and and facing that kind of pressure,

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Speaker 11: that's what you play the game, and that's really where

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Speaker 11: major leagues minor league is the same thing. To be said,

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Speaker 11: you developed my playing in big games and big moments,

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Speaker 11: and you learn a little bit about yourself as a player,

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Speaker 11: and uh, and you learn maybe how you stack up

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Speaker 11: against some of the better teams and what you need

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Speaker 11: to do to close that gap a little bit. And uh,

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Speaker 11: you know, the situational hitting all year was a big problem,

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Speaker 11: which was which was really a shame because they really

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Speaker 11: prided on the fact that that was going to need

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Speaker 11: to be a strength with situational hitting, taking advantage of

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Speaker 11: your opportunities when you get guys in scoring position, get

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Speaker 11: them in because they were not going to be a

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Speaker 11: team that was going to hit a ton of home runs,

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Speaker 11: so the situational hitting was going to have to carry

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Speaker 11: them and that turned out to be a problem for

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Speaker 11: a good part of the year. And so that's something

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Speaker 11: going forward that they're really going to have to take

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Speaker 11: to look at and figure out how to get more

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Speaker 11: out of no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt, and before we really delve into like the like

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Speaker 2: the free agents that are common and everything, do you

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Speaker 2: find yourself rooting for any team that's left alive here

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Speaker 2: as you know, as the as the playoffs on fold

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Speaker 2: here with the division series.

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Speaker 11: Good question, Chick, Maybe as much rooting for as against

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Speaker 11: in some cases, there are some teams I probably would

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Speaker 11: prefer that they not be in the World Series, the

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Speaker 11: Dodgers being at the top of it, as probably Yeah.

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Speaker 11: And you know, when you're when you're a fan of

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Speaker 11: a team that's in a small market by baseball standards,

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Speaker 11: and you've got a payroll I think, what was it,

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Speaker 11: something like one hundred and nineteen million, and the Dodgers

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Speaker 11: were in the three fifty range and fifty million, So

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Speaker 11: you just can't compete with that, and you've got to

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Speaker 11: you know, that's Baseball's economic issue that's got to be

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Speaker 11: corrected for for the fans, for the fairness of the teams.

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Speaker 11: The other teams have salary caps. It's really a salary

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Speaker 11: floor that we need more than anything. But to do that,

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Speaker 11: you're going to have to put a whole system of

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Speaker 11: revenue sharing in place. And so maybe this will happen

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Speaker 11: at the next negotiating period, which is a year away.

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Speaker 11: And I know that the Commissioner has talked pretty pretty

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Speaker 11: aggressively about how much they do need to address the

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Speaker 11: fact that you've got some team spending two hundred million

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Speaker 11: dollars and more in excess of other teams and it's

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Speaker 11: just really hard to compete, and it reminds you almost

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Speaker 11: chick of a Now I came from a MAX school,

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Speaker 11: so I can say this. It would it's it's like

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Speaker 11: a MAX school that wins that conference championship and you're

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Speaker 11: all excited and you go to March Madness and you

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Speaker 11: play the number one seed and you lose by thirty points,

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Speaker 11: and that's because you did the best you could do

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Speaker 11: and and and that's kind of what it reminded me

654
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 11: of a little bit. But nobody's going to give up,

655
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 11: and they know no one's going to feel sorry for them,

656
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 11: and you do what you can to try to close

657
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 11: that gap and be better next year and keep taking

658
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 11: steps forward and know for that to happen, I think

659
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 11: one of the big things that's going to have to

660
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 11: be part of it. And I said this at the

661
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 11: start of the year, and I'll continue to say it.

662
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 11: You've got to have players who are in essence, guys

663
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 11: that carry your club when when you need them. In

664
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Speaker 11: other words, you've got to have guys. When you look

665
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 11: at the league leaders, you've got to have some guys

666
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 11: all over the leaderboard. And I'm talking about categories like

667
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 11: extra base hits, slugging percentage, home runs, you've got to

668
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 11: got RBIs. You've got to have guys that you see

669
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Speaker 11: their names all over the leaderboard to not have anyone

670
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 11: on there. That might be a big credit to Terry

671
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 11: Francona to be able to get what he got out

672
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 11: of the team without having a true star player this year,

673
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 11: and they still manage to win eighty three ball games

674
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 11: and of course get some helping them bets to get

675
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 11: into the playoffs. But you've got to figure out a

676
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 11: way to have a star player for a small market team.

677
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 11: That's a hard thing to do because you can't really

678
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 11: it's hard to expect them to go out in free

679
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 11: agency and outdid the Mets of the Dodgers for a

680
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 11: star player. So you hope to get those players developed

681
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 11: through your system. And of course they've got one coming

682
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 11: up right now in South Stewart that I think has

683
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 11: a chance to eventually be that kind of a player,

684
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 11: that kind of number three year, number four hitter in

685
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 11: your order that teams have to figure out a way

686
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 11: to try to pitch around or just deal with. And

687
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 11: he's got a chance, maybe hopefully and for the Reds

688
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 11: to really ever become a team that can compete with

689
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 11: the big boys. You've got to develop those guys like

690
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 11: a South Stewart into a true star down the road

691
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 11: at some point. If that never happens, it's really tough.

692
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Hey, Just to update the fans on the games going on,

693
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: Like right now, the Phillies have a three to nothing

694
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: lead over the Dodgers in the bottom of the second

695
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: inning in Philadelphia. The Brewers have defeated the Chicago Cubs

696
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: nine to three. In the Blue Jay have dispatched the

697
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: Yankees here in their first game ten to one, and

698
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: the Tigers and Mariners go tonight at eight thirty five. Souh.

699
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: But anyway, just we will get to sal here in

700
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: a minute. The uh, you know, looking at the unrestricted

701
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: free agent lists here, Nick Martinez is twenty one million

702
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: dollars is going to be, you know, finally off the board,

703
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: it looks like. But there's Wade Miley, there's Emelio Pagan,

704
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: zach Lettel Miguel and duhar uh and then some a

705
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: mutual option here twelve million for Austin Hayes. That's uh, oh,

706
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: that's a bit much. And Brent Soonter's got a three

707
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: million dollars million mutual option, and there's also a I

708
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: believe a club option out there on Scott Barlow. So

709
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: you're exactly right, Tom Nichols. A lot of a tough

710
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: decision to be made.

711
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 11: Here, right, And those players that have options, just because

712
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 11: you don't exercise the option doesn't mean you can't still

713
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 11: resign the player. So a player like him Austin Hayes,

714
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 11: I agree with you, that's a lot, probably more than

715
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 11: he's worth to exercise that option. So he then just

716
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 11: becomes a standard free agent, unrespected free agent, and you

717
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 11: can at that point you can maybe try to see

718
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 11: if you can come to an agreement and bring him

719
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 11: back possibly if that's the direction they want to go.

720
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 11: He gave them a lot of good moments this year.

721
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 11: The guy I think, you know, there's a couple of

722
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 11: guys on that list you just mentioned that are very interesting.

723
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 11: I think Martina is probably gone. The reason is that

724
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 11: he just doesn't fit what they need at a level

725
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 11: that the salary is going to have to justify. So

726
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 11: if he gets fifteen million a year, if you're a

727
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 11: reliever making fifteen million a year, you better be a

728
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 11: star closer. And that's not really the way the Reds

729
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 11: like to use him. If you're a starter, you better

730
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 11: be close to you better be a number probably a

731
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 11: number two starter, And they really don't have an opening

732
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 11: there for him that role. So but the guy, you know,

733
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 11: a couple of guys I look at on that list.

734
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 11: It's going to be interesting to see what they do

735
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 11: with Andrew Harr. He's a guy that they picked up

736
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 11: late in the just before the deadline from from the Athletics.

737
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: They gave up a.

738
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Speaker 11: Prospect to get him, and he really delivered big. I mean,

739
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 11: that guy can just flat out hit. So I look

740
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 11: at and I go, how much is he really going

741
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 11: to cost to bring back on it? Maybe a one

742
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 11: or two year deal. He's got some limitations. He's not

743
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 11: a good defensive player. You can play him in left field.

744
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 11: You probably could play him some at first base, but

745
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 11: you really don't have a need for him to play

746
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 11: first base. He's more of a d H type guy.

747
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 11: But he hit what he hit for the Reds, like

748
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 11: three point fifty or something like that in the time

749
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 11: he was with the Reds, and so you know, maybe

750
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 11: he's a guy you could get back for three to

751
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 11: four million. Maybe I'm just taking a guest here. That

752
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 11: would be a good economic bring back if he could

753
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 11: get him there, because he was a middle part of

754
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 11: the older kind of guy. And uh, it'll be interesting

755
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 11: to see if they really want to do that. Again,

756
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 11: he's got some limitations because he's not going to really

757
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 11: help you as a as a defensive player, and he's

758
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 11: not he's not a guy that you can use and

759
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 11: expect him to do a lot of the basis he

760
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 11: doesn't have great speed, but he can flat out hit.

761
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 11: So that's an interesting decision they're going to have to

762
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 11: make there is how much is too much? Uh, And

763
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 11: and that's that's an interesting one. Emilia Pagan of course,

764
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 11: also I think he made eight million this year. It

765
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 11: make Bobby at least that you know, Tony Santion has

766
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 11: shown that he probably is ready to take over that

767
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 11: closer role. Codder Phillips I think showed that he could

768
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 11: move in that eighth inning role. Bram Ashcraft maybe could

769
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 11: could challenge for that also, hopefully or at least continue

770
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 11: to be a seventh inning guy. You could probably overcome

771
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 11: the loss of a Pagan if you thought that he

772
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 11: was a little too expensive to bring back. And then

773
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 11: you know, you talked about latel again probably going to

774
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 11: be too pricey. Burns Chase Burns probably going to be

775
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 11: a starter next year. See a rotation barring any injuries,

776
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 11: is probably pretty well set with Green and Abbott, Lodolo,

777
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 11: Singer and Burns. There's your starting five right there. So

778
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 11: they may not bring let's all back. Who knows. Maybe

779
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 11: they see it differently than I do, but I think

780
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 11: I'm really looking at Andrew, Horror and Hayes and wondering

781
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 11: how they feel about those two guys. How high would

782
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 11: they go? And again, just because you don't exercise the

783
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 11: option doesn't mean that you can't still go ahead and

784
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 11: negotiate a deal.

785
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: You're exactly right. And I'm eager to see what happens

786
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: with the ret Louder and his health. And he's got

787
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: to get healthy and see where he can be a

788
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: part of this club because he's a tremendous talent and

789
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: we never saw him this year.

790
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: That's right.

791
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 11: I mean, they've invested a first round pick in him,

792
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 11: and he said, that's a guy. You need to be

793
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 11: a star, not just a good player, but a star.

794
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 11: And everything was point in the right direction. Then he

795
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 11: missed the whole year with injuries, multiple injuries, nothing that

796
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 11: would be too serious in terms of there's no surgery

797
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 11: involved in tech. He's going to pitch in the Arizona

798
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 11: Fall League, at least that's the plan at this point,

799
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 11: and that would be good to see that happen and

800
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 11: get him healthy, get him back on the mound, get

801
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 11: some innings, make up for some lost time. And again,

802
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 11: that's a guy you've invested a tremendous amount in in

803
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 11: terms of draft capital. You used your first round pick

804
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 11: on him. You need him to become a quality number two,

805
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 11: number three starting pitcher. And so that by no means

806
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 11: are you ready to give up on Louder.

807
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: Tom Nichols is with us for a couple more minutes,

808
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: the director of broadcasting and the voice of the Dayton Dragons,

809
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: and we talk about Sal Stewart, what a spark he

810
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: was when he finally got called up September one. He

811
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: was a major reason why this team made the playoffs.

812
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 11: You know, you've heard me talk about Sal for a

813
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 11: lot long time because we had Salad Dayton, and I

814
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 11: saw the skills south Stewart was not a player drafted

815
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 11: where he was taken based on athleticism and tools. He

816
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 11: was drafted where he was taken, which was supplemental first round,

817
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 11: the picks between the first and second round, so somewhere

818
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 11: around the I think thirty eighth pick or so, somewhere

819
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 11: in that range. That's a high pick. That's a million

820
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 11: dollars signing bonus or much more actually, more like two

821
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 11: to three million. And he was taken based on baseball skills,

822
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 11: which is what we like to see out there, a

823
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 11: guy who actually can go out there and produce, and

824
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Speaker 11: that's South Stewart. He's an extremely smart player. You saw

825
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 11: his plate discipline. He struck out more times than you're

826
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 11: going to see him strike out down the road in

827
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 11: this short month or so with the Reds. He's not

828
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 11: a guy that's got a lot of strikeouts, and that's

829
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 11: something he'll correct. He is a flat out pure hitter,

830
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 11: very smart player. As I mentioned, I asked him one time.

831
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Speaker 11: I said, because it didn't take long when he out

832
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 11: to Dayton to see that he had an extremely high

833
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 11: baseball IQ. And I said, you had some great coaching

834
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 11: somewhere along the way in terms of you know, his

835
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 11: dad was a coach, but his dad was a basketball coach,

836
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 11: so his baseball coach was was someone else, but he

837
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 11: learned the game and plays the game at a very

838
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 11: intelligent level, very aggressive, plays with a chip on his shoulder.

839
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Speaker 11: And you know, I asked him one time, Chick about

840
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 11: the fact that when he was drafted, the day he

841
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 11: was crafted, everybody was saying he's going to have to

842
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 11: move to first base. And Sal's attitude at that time was,

843
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 11: those are people that don't know what they're talking about.

844
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 11: And he is a lot more athletic than people give

845
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 11: him credit for. He saw some diving catches, you saw

846
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 11: some good defensive plays. Now he's not at Cabrian Hayes

847
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 11: by any means, but he can play third, he can

848
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 11: play first will I'm sure, even though he thought that

849
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 11: was a terrible idea of moving the first base when

850
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 11: he was drafted. If you said Sal, you can play

851
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 11: first base in the big league, they'd say, I'll play

852
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 11: first base. But where they put him next year is

853
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 11: going to be a very very interesting decision because it's

854
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 11: going to depend a little bit on who comes back

855
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 11: and who and where there's a spot. I would say,

856
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 11: in my opinion that if everyone came back, he's your

857
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 11: everyday first baseman and you play Spencer Steer probably in

858
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 11: left field or somewhere. Steers capable of playing a lot

859
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 11: of positions, but South Stewart's the guy that I think

860
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 11: is your future star. Get him in the lineup every

861
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 11: day at one position and make him a guy that's

862
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 11: going to lift you to that level someday down the

863
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 11: road where you can you can compete with the big boys,

864
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 11: the Dodgers and the Phillies and so forth. And Tom,

865
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 11: that's want to be an interesting decision.

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Speaker 2: It really will be. Gosh, thank you so much for

867
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Speaker 2: your time. We've got to run. Really appreciate it and

868
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: we'll catch up soon. Thank you. Tom Nichols, the director

869
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Speaker 2: of broadcasting and the voice of the Dayton Dragons. This

870
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Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk seven hundred WLW seven thirty

871
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Speaker 2: eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati. This is Chick

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Speaker 2: Ludwigs Sports Talk until nine o'clock tonight. And my next

873
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: guest is a Cincinnati Bengals offensive lineman legend, an offensive

874
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: lineman legend for the Cincinnati Bengals, and he joins me

875
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: as a co host tomorrow night Bengals postgame sports Talk

876
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: at Wings and Rings, Crestview Hills, Kentucky. Twenty eight oh

877
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Speaker 2: nine Dixie Highway. Come on out and meet the Chickster

878
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: and my next guest, the one and only Bruce Kazerski.

879
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: Cause how are we doing tonight.

880
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 4: Chick I'm doing great, great, great to hear from you.

881
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 4: Always nice to talk to you. You're crazy. You got

882
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: some great fans. Let's get this going.

883
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: Fantastic man, And I told the fans out there, we're

884
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: gonna have some fun tonight. And Bruce, it's funny how

885
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 2: one play can change a game. And I'm looking at

886
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: the Denver Bengals game and the Bengals are driving. They're

887
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 2: down seven to three of what a thirty plus yard

888
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: passed the t Higgins, and all of a sudden, it's

889
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: called back because Amarius Mims is just a little too

890
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: far off the line of scrimmage, a penalty that refs

891
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: never called, but it might be a point of emphasis

892
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: this year. And it just seemed like at that point

893
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: then the penalty started coming and the Bengals went right downhill.

894
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: It was brutal to watch. And they've got to come back.

895
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: To call that the Kansas City rule. They got a

896
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: right tackle, who's off the ball every play? Yes, all right?

897
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: And he's illegal because he's technically moving every play, and

898
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: so if the league doesn't stop it, then it's only

899
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: gonna get worse. That's the way the league works. It

900
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 4: gets worse. Yes, And so we got one in a

901
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: situation where he knew. You know what, I got no

902
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: sympathy for the guy because he knew that that was

903
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 4: going to be called eventually. Now guys get what they can.

904
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 4: They still they want to get every advance they possibly can.

905
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 4: Was he warned, That's the question. Was he warned that

906
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a penalty? Hey, you got to get

907
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: up on the ball. I'm gonna call this. Because if

908
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 4: he was warned and it was still called, I got nothing.

909
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: I got nothing for him.

910
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: Bruce Kazerski. When I think of the STEM and we're

911
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: talking science, technology, engineering, and math, I think of you

912
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: and the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts. Man, Yeah,

913
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: just an incredible career and using all that math as

914
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: a head football coach at Holy Cross High School in

915
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky. And Man, all I know is the Bengals

916
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: have to give a supreme effort tomorrow because if they

917
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: look like they did the last two weeks on the

918
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: road at home here tomorrow, are we gonna see torches

919
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: and pitchforks on the way down to pay Course Stadium.

920
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 4: I can tell you don't look for sympathy in the NFL.

921
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 4: Don't look for sympathy from anybody to let alone then

922
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: Campbell under the Detroit Lions. They're gonna come in here

923
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: and they're gonna put up every point they can possibly

924
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 4: put up. They're gonna go for every fourth down they

925
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: could possibly make, and they are gonna try to bury you.

926
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: And if we're not up to the challenge, if our

927
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: linemen on both sides of the ball don't grow up

928
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 4: become men, it's gonna be ugly. I mean they're they're

929
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: grown men, and they're and they're playing hard, but there's

930
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 4: something missing. There's something missing, whether it's the coordination or

931
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 4: the intensity, but there's something missing. Now you can call

932
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 4: it Joe Burrow. You can say you can talk about

933
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow being being absolent, being missing, but but you

934
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 4: know what, he didn't get any time, So why wouldn't

935
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: we expect this guy to get any time?

936
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake Browning, And if.

937
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: You can't run the ball in this league, at any level,

938
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 4: you got really no chance.

939
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: I always thought that an offensive lineman loves to go

940
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: forward and not backward. And don't you love to run block?

941
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, and you and I heard your interview.

942
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: It was fantastic with Dave Lapham in the Trenches the

943
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 2: podcast first our logistics and you talk about this being

944
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: a mono imano in the trenches kind of sport.

945
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 4: This it is. First of all, I want to congraduate

946
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: day want a tremendous curve career and going into the

947
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 4: ring of and honor fame. That's that's fantastic. Good for him.

948
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 4: There's more, there's more guys, plenty of guys qualified, but

949
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: he's he's certainly at the top of that that mountain.

950
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 4: He's as he was a fantastic player, and he's there's

951
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: no nobody else dies orange or or bleeds orange like David.

952
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: He's just fantastic. I love he listened to him and

953
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: he's a great friend of mine. But he deserves everything

954
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: he gets now. In terms of absolutely, if you can't

955
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: win your one on one battles, you know what I mean,

956
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 4: You you can't double team in this league. They send

957
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: enough bodies at the quarterback to make you block Manham.

958
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 4: That's why they do it. Back in the day, they

959
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: they'd rush three or four guys. Maybe they blit occasionally,

960
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: but nowadays they're putting eight guys in the line of scrimmage.

961
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: If you can't and figure out who's coming who's not,

962
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: you can't. You can't do it, and you have to

963
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 4: do it on a fly because they're sending a like

964
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: I said, they're they're coming from all different angles and

965
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: everybody can rush the quarterback anymore.

966
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: And I'm seeing opposing running backs get to the outside.

967
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm seeing wide receivers settle into zone coverage, uh wide open,

968
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: and our passes on offense, everything seems to be contested

969
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: and towards the sidelines. So it's, uh yeah, you're exactly right.

970
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: Something is missing. And I just want to see great

971
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: effort tomorrow because would they be so NFL like if

972
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 2: the Bengals pull the upset on the Lions, it would

973
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: just be so.

974
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: It would be it sho. I appreciate. I appreciate slowing

975
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: the offense down early in the game, finding out what

976
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: they could possibly do against you. Giving them yard is

977
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: giving them yards. When you're get in the red zone,

978
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: you hold and go Fieterbal. I can appreciate that for years,

979
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 4: that's the way the game was played. But your defense

980
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: is not matching your offense, and your offense is not

981
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: helping your defense. I mean, there was a game not

982
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: too long ago where we gave up more points than

983
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 4: our offense than our defense did. Yes, and so what

984
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying is, and you know, I think the Bengals

985
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 4: have to be more aggressive on defense early because their

986
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 4: offense is struggling with so much Early. If the offense

987
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: struggles and the defense plays safe and gives up yards

988
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: after the yards after yards, offensually are going to give

989
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 4: field goals or eventually they're going to give a touchdown,

990
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 4: and now we're in the whole. I think the defense,

991
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: I like the scheme. I think they're playing well times,

992
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: but I think early in the game they need to

993
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: be more aggressive and get after the quarterback and get

994
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: after the running games. Sometimes these blitzes are run defense

995
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: are run blitz. Yes, you can't sit in the l

996
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: you can't sit there anymore and run a basic four

997
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 4: man front, three linebackers and stop the run because there's

998
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 4: too many gimmicks out there. You have to get after

999
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: it and play the run in the backfield. And you

1000
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 4: know we've been playing it safe because Joe Burrow is

1001
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 4: gonna score a lot of points. Well, this is not

1002
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: Joe's offense anymore, at least not for three months. I

1003
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 4: hope he come back. I hope we're still in the

1004
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 4: race when he does come back.

1005
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: And you're right, because yeah, we're.

1006
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 4: In it when he does come back. We got a chance.

1007
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: And you're right, Bruce Kazerski. If you can't run the

1008
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: football in this league, you're you're in trouble because no team,

1009
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: no team that's passing forty and fifty times a game,

1010
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: is going to win.

1011
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: I can tell you, I can tell you right now

1012
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: that we were great pass blockers because we were amazing

1013
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 4: run blockers. That's the bottom line. If you look at

1014
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: the at the the three years that we were the

1015
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: best offensive line of football, it's because we could run

1016
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: the ball and you knew it was coming and you

1017
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: couldn't stop it. We put two forty on Seattle in

1018
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: the playoff game and they couldn't stop it. They had

1019
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: the lineman that Joe Nash laid on the ground to

1020
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: stop our running game on the third down. He wouldn't

1021
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: let us. He would pretend he was hurt. I know

1022
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 4: Joe from college. I was a Joe. That's embarrassing, he said,

1023
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: I know college, but the coaches telling me to do

1024
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 4: it because they couldn't stop our running game. They had

1025
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 4: no chance in our play action passes none.

1026
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: And Boomer was the best at that, that's for sure.

1027
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 4: He was fantastic. That. Yeah, it's not it's not just

1028
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 4: it's not just automatic. Boomer was great. Dam would stand

1029
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 4: twenty yards downfield behind our defense and he would tell

1030
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 4: us every day he said, if I can see it,

1031
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 4: the defense could see it. If it's it's not good

1032
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: enough if they can see it. So he would have

1033
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 4: is running over and over and over until a defense

1034
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 4: couldn't see the ball. Fake Bruce, that was perfection.

1035
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Bruce Gazerski played for the Bengals from nineteen

1036
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: eighty four to nineteen ninety five, twelve years and as

1037
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: a ninth round draft pick. Today, Bruce, gosh, you'd be

1038
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: an undrafted college free agent at a holy Cross.

1039
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: Be a free agent, got to be a free agent

1040
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 4: and getting what and what kind of look would I've gotten?

1041
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: You know? I thank God every day And Jim McNally

1042
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 4: has become a very close friend of mine and everybody

1043
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: that played for him. He is an amazing man. Jim

1044
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 4: McNally was our offensive line coach and you know, chick

1045
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: something you don't know maybe Mammy. Many don't know by

1046
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 4: Jim McNally, but he was. He was a college coach

1047
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 4: the year that Marshall plane crashed. He was the first

1048
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: offensive line coach hired after the plane crash. Wow, he was.

1049
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 4: He was on site right after the plane crash and

1050
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 4: he led that program back with his offensive toy and

1051
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 4: he did the same thing here. He drafted Anthony Munios

1052
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: was the first round pick. But you go down to

1053
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: the rest of that group. Bruce Reimers was a seventh

1054
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 4: round pick. I was a ninth round pick. Max Montoya

1055
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: was a sixth round pick. Joe Walters was a sixth

1056
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 4: round pick. And you know what, it's not where you're pick,

1057
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 4: it's how you play. He made us better. He made

1058
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 4: us better.

1059
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: And man, what are we expecting tomorrow? They've got two

1060
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: fantastic running backs, a quarterback that likes to throw the ball,

1061
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: just tremendous versatility, great balance, and we're gonna the Bengals're

1062
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to match that and match their physicality.

1063
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 4: Because they can run the ball, they can throw it

1064
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: at anybody. You know, Amina Ross Brown is a great

1065
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 4: a great receiver they have. They have several fantastic receivers.

1066
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 4: But what makes them more dynamic is the fact that

1067
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 4: they have two great running backs and an offensive line

1068
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 4: as good as there is. Those guys know how to

1069
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 4: plow the road. We're coming through and you can't stop us.

1070
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: That right tackle. I'm glad we took Jamarches. Don't get

1071
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 4: me wrong, but that right tackle was worthy of a

1072
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 4: first round pick.

1073
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: Yes, then a sewell, no doubt. So, yes, he really

1074
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: is and hard to say what to expect, but to

1075
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: know going in that you are a ten and a

1076
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: half point home underdog. That makes me if I ever gambled,

1077
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: which I don't, I would put some coin on the Bengals,

1078
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: at least the cover. But it'd be so like the

1079
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: NFL toa have the Bengals win tomorrow because it's any

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01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: given Sunday.

1081
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: Well you know, check the that's one hundred percent true,

1082
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 4: and you would expect the Bengals to cover. But my

1083
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 4: concern and I follow the lines a lot because one

1084
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 4: of their linebackers played for me at holy Cross and Covington.

1085
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 4: Derek Barnes, he's a phenomenal player. And I guarantee you

1086
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell was telling those guys all the way long,

1087
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 4: this is the league where there is no mercy. We're

1088
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 4: coming after the Bengals. We're gonna We're gonna get out

1089
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 4: there and if we can score a hundred, we're gonna

1090
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 4: score a hundred and and that's just the way it is.

1091
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 4: And they have a firm belief that they can stop anybody,

1092
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 4: and they can put points upon anybody. And that's why

1093
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 4: they're gonna compete for a world championship this year. That's

1094
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 4: how good they can be now. And the Bengals match

1095
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: that intensity tomorrow. Can the offensive line play good enough

1096
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: tomorrow to give the quarterback a chance to throw? Can

1097
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 4: they block some running plays, give them some room to run.

1098
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 4: That's gonna be the challenge. That's gonna be the challenge.

1099
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: Yep, because they've got to get Chase Brown going, there's

1100
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: no doubt, because he's a.

1101
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 4: Hundred yards in five games or four games.

1102
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: Oh yes, brutal, and then it's going.

1103
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: I'm I'm praying for this team. I love the Bengals.

1104
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: I love the organization. I hope they do well. It's

1105
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 4: exciting when they win. It's you know, water cooler fodder.

1106
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 4: You know, every time they win, you talk about the

1107
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 4: Bengals all week long and the week goes faster at work.

1108
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 4: But right now they got to play better because they

1109
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: don't have an easy game on the schedule. It's the NFL.

1110
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 4: Everybody's good.

1111
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: When you win, that week goes by like three days.

1112
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: When you lose, it feels like two weeks.

1113
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 4: It feels like two weeks. It really does, no matter

1114
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 4: what job you have, No matter what job you have.

1115
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 4: If you're a football fan, you know the years, for

1116
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 4: years and years and years, and when the Reds were bad,

1117
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: you'd say, God, I can't wait the football season start.

1118
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 4: Well now, actually the Reds made the playoffs, so you're

1119
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 4: excited a little bit now they lost, But the Bengals are.

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01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 4: They just got to prove something this week. This is

1121
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 4: a statement game. They got to come out and prove

1122
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 4: something this week.

1123
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: No doubt, because they've got talent. There's no doubt. What

1124
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: bothers me is watching a little bit of film and

1125
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: seeing a three man Denver front and the two defensive

1126
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: ends meet at the quarterback with a three man front,

1127
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: just a three man rush, and the two the two

1128
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: defensive ends meet at Jake Browning blowing right past the

1129
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: offensive tackles, and well, I hate to say a team

1130
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: is I hate to say a team is soft or

1131
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: the Bengals soft.

1132
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: If you draw an X in the backfield and say

1133
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 4: our quarterback is going to be standing right here, come

1134
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 4: and get them. They're going to get them. Whether they

1135
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: rush three or four guys, they're going to come and

1136
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 4: get them. If you move your quarterback different spots, the

1137
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: run action passes, the play action pass. But how does

1138
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 4: the run action work or a play action work when

1139
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 4: there's no running game?

1140
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1141
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 4: Ib you go for a third and one in shotgun?

1142
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you got to run ten yards to get

1143
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage.

1144
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can't. You can't. There's too much patrations.

1145
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 4: You can't people long enough to not tackle him in

1146
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: the backfield. Yeah.

1147
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: A lot to look forward to tomorrow to watch and listen.

1148
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: And then we're on at from nine to eleven o'clock.

1149
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings normally closes at ten on Sundays, but

1150
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: they are staying open for us in Cresview Hills. Come

1151
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: on out meet the Great Bruce Kazerski twenty eighth nine

1152
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: Dixie Highway, Say hi to the Chickster and get Bruce

1153
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: Kazerski's autographed tomorrow night, nine to eleven, and we're gonna

1154
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: have some fun. We're gonna break it down like a

1155
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: wrecking ball.

1156
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be there. I can't believe it.

1157
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 4: You know, I got things going during today. My grandson's

1158
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 4: a baseball player. I'm gonna watch get home in time

1159
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 4: to watch the Bengals game. I hope they win. They

1160
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 4: will have a whole bunch to talk about. Exciting and

1161
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 4: AR will have a you know, we'll have to have

1162
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: a beverage and say, hey, chick this goouna be a

1163
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: long ear buddy.

1164
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And we will break it down like a

1165
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: wrecking ball and we will be running through walls with

1166
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: snot bubbles for Jimmy Anderson.

1167
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. We we just hope we can be complimentary. Yes,

1168
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 4: that would be ultimate, the complimentary. They played great today,

1169
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: they won the game. It'd be a great team, fantastic

1170
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: we're on the road. That'll be great.

1171
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 2: Huge, absolutely huge. Bruce, You've been kind with your time.

1172
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: Thank you so much and look forward to working with

1173
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: you tomorrow night.

1174
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, see tomorrow.

1175
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Thank you. Bruce Kozerski twelve years a Cincinnati

1176
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: Bengal on a great offensive line that made the nineteen

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: eighty eight Super Bowl. He played for the Bengals from

1178
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four through nineteen ninety five on a great,

1179
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: great offensive line with Anthony Munoz, Max Montoya, Bruce Rymers,

1180
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: Joe Walter. Awesome. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk. Get ready.

1181
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: After the top of the hour news, the popular game

1182
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: show known as Reverse Radio Callers will call in the

1183
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: Chick Magnets. Are you ready, the loyal listeners. You'll call

1184
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: in and I will ask you questions. At five, one, three,

1185
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred the Big

1186
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: One Chick Ludwig Sports Talk with tonight's producer Shoeless Joe

1187
01:09:21,760 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 2: Waddell on seven hundred WLW, eighth nine in the Queen

1188
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: City of Cincinnati. Chick Lugwig, seven hundred WLW. This is

1189
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: Sports Talk. Joe Waddell is tonight's producer. We are going

1190
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: all the way to nine o'clock tonight right here on

1191
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 2: the Big One, and I promised all the loyal listeners

1192
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: of seven hundred WLW, the Big One and all the

1193
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 2: chick Magnets that we were going to have some fun tonight.

1194
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 2: And the fun starts right now with the popular game

1195
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: show known as Reverse Radio, where the callers call in

1196
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: at five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

1197
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: eight hundred the Big One and I ask you questions,

1198
01:10:51,920 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: and we start tonight with Lincoln in Covedale. Lincoln, Hello, check, fantastic.

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01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 2: Are you ready for Reverse Radio?

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01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 9: I absolutely am, and check if you don't mind. Two

1201
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 9: very good friends of mine asked me to say hello

1202
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 9: to you. You're cousins Julie and Jennifer.

1203
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Hey, I really appreciate that.

1204
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 9: Okay, well, I told him I've been calling in and

1205
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 9: they said, just ask me, would you talk high?

1206
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: Fantastic? Please tell them I say hello too.

1207
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 4: You got it all right? Love.

1208
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my dad was one of thirteen. So

1209
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: I've got cousins, nephews, nieces all over the place. Fantastic, wonderful. Okay,

1210
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: are you ready for the first for your question?

1211
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 9: I'm ready.

1212
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: If you could have an all expense paid and a

1213
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: ticket to any sporting event in the world, what would

1214
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 2: it be? And why?

1215
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 9: Oh, any trip all spender's paid one ticket.

1216
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: Or two tickets, you can take a guest. Yeah, where

1217
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: would you like to go?

1218
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 9: Or two tickets? Well, check you out from on the

1219
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 9: West Side. And I love baseball and it would be

1220
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 9: to the world to a World Series game with me

1221
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 9: and my wife.

1222
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: How about a game seven World Series?

1223
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 9: That would be it fantastically and preferably the Reds.

1224
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt about that. Fantastic stuff. Lincoln, appreciate you.

1225
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 9: Well, I appreciate talking to you, and I'll talk to

1226
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 9: you next time.

1227
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: Fantastic Lincoln, Thank you so much. All Right, Sue is

1228
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: on the line. Me, Sue, how are you.

1229
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 12: Well, I'm doing fun, but I'm sort of got TV

1230
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 12: on and you so pop the question. I'll see if

1231
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 12: I can answer it.

1232
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know that you are a Cincinnati fan, okay,

1233
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: sports fan.

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 5: Mh.

1235
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: You love the Reds and I would imagine and I

1236
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,520
Speaker 2: would imagine you like the Bengals.

1237
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, but I'm more uh curious with the Reds

1238
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 12: the Bengals just as long as they win. And you

1239
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 12: have a good outing over in Elsmere, Kentucky.

1240
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 2: Well, it's in Cresview. Hills tomorrow from nine to eleven.

1241
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 4: PP.

1242
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 12: Well, there's so many Okay, I'm ready.

1243
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: All right. Would you prefer a World Series championship for

1244
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: your Cincinnati Reds or a Super Bowl title after three

1245
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 2: losses by the Cincinnati Bengals.

1246
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 12: Well, I guess since the Reds did lose, I'm not.

1247
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 12: Hopefully the Bengals do get to the Super Bowl, but

1248
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 12: they've got to watch the number are games that they

1249
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 12: lose now and also why, I'll tell you one thing.

1250
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 12: I'm very disappointed at Chicago loss today. That's that's my

1251
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 12: act question and answer. Either or I'm disappointed in the

1252
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 12: rest because I stayed up almost till twelve thirty and

1253
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 12: one o'clock.

1254
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 2: You're a loyal fan, all right, Sue, Hey, appreciate you.

1255
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 12: You're tired today, but anyway, take care.

1256
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much. Awesome, Okay, all right, bye bye. Now, Hey,

1257
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: we've got Grandpa Mike on the line from the gem

1258
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: city of Dayton, Ohio. How are you, Grandpa Mike? How

1259
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: are you sure?

1260
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 5: Sory? Are you doing buddy?

1261
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: All fantastic?

1262
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 5: I'm doing great. I'm sitting up here at Deeds Park

1263
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 5: right by the founds here in downtown Dayton and joint life.

1264
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: Wonderful, wonderful. So you're doing good, amen, I'm on.

1265
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 5: The air having related seventy first birthday.

1266
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: Oh, thanks so much. Yeah, approaching seventy, approaching seventy.

1267
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 5: Yeah you're July, Yes, sir, Mine dog Mine's August twenty seven.

1268
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. All right, are you ready for your question? Grandpa?

1269
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: If you could have, if you could hang with any

1270
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: athlete for a day, present or past, who would it be?

1271
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

1272
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,520
Speaker 2: Man, that's tough hang with any athlete.

1273
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, chick, I've seen I've met a lot.

1274
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:47,919
Speaker 4: Of guys in my life.

1275
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 2: Yep.

1276
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 5: And you may remember I talked to like guys. I

1277
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 5: got guys or in Dragons now double at play, I

1278
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 5: still talk to Hunter.

1279
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1280
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 5: Oh, man, I knew unitis. Any athlete I could hang

1281
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 5: with for a day.

1282
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, man.

1283
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 5: Muhammad Ali.

1284
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 2: Quick story about Muhammad Ali at the nineteen ninety nine

1285
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl in Atlanta. Okay, you made him no, no close? Okay.

1286
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: At the nineteen ninety nine Super Bowl in Atlanta, naturally,

1287
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: the night before the game, everyone's out at dinner, come

1288
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 2: back to the team hotel and the media center, and

1289
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 2: luckily I'm wearing my credentials, okay, because there's yellow caution tape,

1290
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: police tape all over the place around the media headquarters. Okay,

1291
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: So I get inside, work my way down to the

1292
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 2: media romee and off in a corner watching tell Vision

1293
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: in front of about anywhere from fifty to one hundred

1294
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: sports writers and broadcasters sitting on a couch is Muhammad Ali.

1295
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 4: Wow.

1296
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 5: That would have been awesome.

1297
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: Man, just to be there. Yeah, just being there and

1298
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: just watching him, you know it was. It was awesome. Yeah,

1299
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,520
Speaker 2: and that's why so cool. There was security everywhere, yes.

1300
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'd love to talk to you about some

1301
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 5: red stuff, some of the ideas I have, but I

1302
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 5: know you don't have time for that. You get your

1303
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 5: show to do, you know what. Lay it on me,

1304
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 5: all right, Uh they need to Uh okay, you know

1305
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 5: me being here dating every work at stadium, I'm still

1306
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 5: at bricks and all that. And I talked to these guys.

1307
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 5: I talked to John Michael Fail, I still talk to

1308
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 5: Ruben Jay, Allen cam Collier. I don't talk. I don't

1309
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 5: talk to the guys in the reds Ofphine because they

1310
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 5: got okay, they got you guys and all the other

1311
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 5: media they don't need an old man like me. Now, boy,

1312
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 5: wasn't the media doing broadcasting, I'd be questioning them like crazy.

1313
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, but anyway, Uh, they gotta make some trades.

1314
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 5: They guy, they they have so many and I've seen

1315
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 5: it in the past four or five years. They have

1316
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 5: so many of the same type player. Look at a ball,

1317
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 5: double a triple A. Uh, he was the majors. They

1318
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 5: got guys they can plug in and might do well

1319
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 5: for a while, but they don't have that outstanding guy

1320
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 5: rage just jump in.

1321
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: You need that difference maker.

1322
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 5: But you got guys that have potential to be really

1323
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 5: good ballplayers, so you trade some of them. They got,

1324
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 5: they got so much talent. Their farm sits and believe

1325
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 5: it or not, they told no one to the playoffs.

1326
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 5: Chat Neuga w into the playoffs. The Dragons won eighteen

1327
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 5: of the last nineteen games this year. Yeah, and Louisville

1328
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 5: they were like ten twelve games under five Blarner. But

1329
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 5: that's fine. But they had people going back and forth

1330
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 5: all the time. You never know who you're playing with,

1331
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 5: right right, Yes, you really don't. But they make some trades.

1332
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 5: I put Ellien Center, Ellien Center. It was Freedo left,

1333
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 5: leave Marte and right. If you going to keep McLean,

1334
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 5: move him to short. I don't care if he had

1335
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 5: two hundred. Remember growing up in Baltimore, I remember when

1336
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 5: Mark Lelanger played short for the Orioles. It was a

1337
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 5: two twenty hitter. Yeah, the guy was a great defender

1338
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 5: and he had many great times where nobody expect him

1339
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 5: to come through.

1340
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 4: But he did.

1341
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 5: And that's that's McLean. That's McLean.

1342
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: Well he needs a bounce back year, that's for sure,

1343
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: and hopefully he can get it. And Mike, I got

1344
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: a run. I appreciate you.

1345
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate it. Buddy, you'd be safe.

1346
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 4: And you're Dayton.

1347
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 5: Come see me at bricks. I'm there most of the time.

1348
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 2: All right, thank you.

1349
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 5: I'm the mascot, theren Now.

1350
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, Thanks so much man. Bricks Bricks Ice Company

1351
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: right across from uh Day air Ballpark in downtown Dayton.

1352
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: Great place. Sure, it's a great day. Thank you you too. Hey,

1353
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: we'll be back with more. It is reverse radio. The

1354
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: caller calls in and I asked the questions chick aloudwig

1355
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. They give it to prior. A huge

1356
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 2: hole opens up, He's ready.

1357
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 13: For the m tone touchdown Bearcats.

1358
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 2: That's Dan Horde on the Bearcats Radio Network right here

1359
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW Evan Pryor going for a touchdown

1360
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: thirty yards and that got the Bearcats started on their

1361
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: way to a thirty eight to thirty victory over the

1362
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 2: number fourteen ranked Iowa State Cyclones. And we are playing

1363
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: the popular game show Reverse Radio, made popular by the

1364
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: voice of the Cincinnati Bengals and the UC Bearcats, Dan Horde.

1365
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: And I'm turning to tonight's producer, Shoeless Joe Waddell. Joe,

1366
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: are you ready? How are you doing? Chick fantastic? All right?

1367
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: Four players Joe in Major League Baseball history have hit

1368
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: seven hundred home runs or more? Can you name them?

1369
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: Barry Bond's got me number one? Right? He is number one? Yes,

1370
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: So let's see you got Barry Bonds.

1371
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 14: Hmm oh Babe, Ruth, duh, yes, Barry Bonds, Babe, Ruth.

1372
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 14: Let's think here, we think of more modern or old school?

1373
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: Old school? He is deceased. The next one on my

1374
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: list here that wouldn't happen to be one, Henry Aaron

1375
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: what it? Yes, it would Barry Bonds is first at

1376
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty two Hammer and Hank Aaron is second.

1377
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: It's seven fifty five. Babe Ruth is at seven fourteen.

1378
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: Can you name the fourth Major League baseball player two

1379
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: hit at least seven hundred home runs? I'm gonna cheat again,

1380
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 2: and we think of modern or old school? He recently retired,

1381
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 2: but pretty modern. He'll be headed to the Hall of

1382
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: Fame on a first ballot, first ballot, Hall of Famers.

1383
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,480
Speaker 2: And here's a clue. Here's a clue. Saint Louis Cardinals

1384
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: and the Los Angeles Angels. Oh, Albert Pooles, stuh, you

1385
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 2: got it?

1386
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 14: Alb Pools, Yeah, that dude, Oh my god, Yes, I

1387
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 14: can't believe I didn't get that sooner.

1388
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: A monster, a monster. And while I've got you here,

1389
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: now that the Reds have been eliminated from playoff contention,

1390
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 2: who do you like in the American League and who

1391
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 2: do you like in the National League to reach the

1392
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: World Series?

1393
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 14: To reach the World Series? Well, I'll start in the

1394
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 14: American League. I think this is the year. I don't

1395
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 14: know why, it's just a feeling. I think this is

1396
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 14: the year the Seattle Mariners finally do it. I don't

1397
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 14: know what it is. It's just someone's got me feeling

1398
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 14: Seattle out of the AL.

1399
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: You know, obviously cal Rawley's having a really special.

1400
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 14: Season, but they made a lot of really good moves

1401
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 14: at the deadline to add to their depth.

1402
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: I really like Seattle.

1403
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 14: The l's a little bit tougher, just because I think

1404
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 14: it's in general, a little bit tougher of a league.

1405
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1406
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, h you got Brewers beat the Cubs today nine

1407
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: to three, and the Phillies have a three to nothing

1408
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: lead over the Dodgers in the top of the third

1409
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 2: inning in Philly.

1410
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 14: I think normally I feel like you'd have to say

1411
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 14: the Dodgers, but their bullpen, even against you know, the Reds,

1412
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 14: really proved to be a weakness. I'm not sure they

1413
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 14: have the pen to get them there. I like Philadelphia,

1414
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 14: so I'm gonna go Philadelphia versus Seattle World Series.

1415
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I do like the Phillies. That's who I'm rooting

1416
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: for because of one Kyle Schwarber, proud Hoosier, Yes, a

1417
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: proud Hoosier, Middletown's favorite son. I got to meet Kyle

1418
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: at a wedding reception in November of twenty twenty four,

1419
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 2: the most down to earth superstar on the planet. Believe me,

1420
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: he is amazing, just amazing.

1421
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 14: Walk past him at Kilroys on Kirkwood in Bloomington. I

1422
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 14: was didn't talk to him, but you know, still, you

1423
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 14: walking past someone like that, that's count for something, right, Yeah.

1424
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to be that guy to you know,

1425
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: google overhim and everything. But I approached him at the bar.

1426
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: He got a soda and so did I and he

1427
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: I introduced myself. He goes, Chick, I know who you are,

1428
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: you know, So it was really cool and we had

1429
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: a couple selfies taken together. Just a phenomenal guy. And

1430
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Seattle Mariners at ninety and seventy two.

1431
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 2: I've got to go with the Tigers because of John Warden,

1432
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: my great friend who pitched for the Tigers in nineteen

1433
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 2: sixty eight when they won it all. So great stuff there, Joe.

1434
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Yeah, appreciate you letting me hop on Chick Fantastic. Hey,

1435
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 2: it's Reverse Radio five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand,

1436
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 2: one eight hundred, the Big One. Don't be afraid call

1437
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: in and I will ask you the questions. It's the

1438
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: Chickster Chick Ludwig with you till nine o'clock Sports Talk

1439
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,879
Speaker 2: on the Home of the Reds and the Best Bengals

1440
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: coverage seven hundred WLW.

1441
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 15: Cats at their own eighteen yard line sort he catches

1442
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 15: the shot gun snap. He's looking to throw cloats at

1443
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 15: high and deep down for your stody with a catch,

1444
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 15: crazy enough forty thirty, twenty fifty.

1445
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 13: Down, five touchdown. There cat eighty two yards and it

1446
01:26:59,360 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 13: takes your one.

1447
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 4: No.

1448
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 16: Kennedy flags coun believable. What a throw from Brendan Soresby.

1449
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 16: He's been off a couple times today on that deep ball.

1450
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 16: Couldn't place it any better on that one. They took

1451
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 16: the aggressiveness of Iowa State, especially on the back end.

1452
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: The safety comes.

1453
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 10: Up good, he gets over the top, Soresby lays it

1454
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 10: up and the rest is history.

1455
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: What an unbelievable throw at the biggest moment in the

1456
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 2: game from Brendan Soresby. That's Dan Horde and Tony Pike

1457
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:37,440
Speaker 2: on the Bearcats Radio Network today on seven hundred WLW.

1458
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: Is the Cincinnati Bearcats defeat the fourteenth ranked Iowa State

1459
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Cyclones thirty eight to thirty at Knippert Stadium, and as

1460
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:53,879
Speaker 2: soon as the clock time expired, students poured out onto

1461
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: the field at Nippert. Just a phenomenal atmosphere today on

1462
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: a beautiful day for football at Knippert Stadium. In the

1463
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Bearcats win, and in that game you see led late

1464
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: first half thirty one to seven, but Iowa State got

1465
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: the double dip the scoring a touchdown on an untimed

1466
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: play with no time left in the second quarter, got

1467
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 2: the two point conversion, and then scored again on the

1468
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: first drive of the third quarter to make this a

1469
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:36,799
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty two game. And with seven forty

1470
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 2: to play, with the Bearcats nursing that thirty one to

1471
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: twenty two lead, U See's defense stops rock O Becked,

1472
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: Iowa State's quarterback on a fourth and one play at

1473
01:28:55,680 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: UC sixteen yard line was seven forty to go, and

1474
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: then on the ensuing drive eighty two yards from Brendan

1475
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: Soresby to Caleb Goody, giving the Bearcats a thirty eight

1476
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: to twenty two lead. Iowa State scores late, gets the

1477
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: two point conversion you see gets the on side kick

1478
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 2: couldn't quite run out the clock, they had to punt

1479
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: the ball and then on the final play of the game.

1480
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking for Iowa State to start later, latering the

1481
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: football in an attempt to score, but the tight end

1482
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,759
Speaker 2: ran out of bounds. Game over. You see wins thirty

1483
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: eight to thirty. You see back in action next Saturday

1484
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: at noon at home against UCF Central Florida and Hey,

1485
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: on this date in Red's history, October fourth, let's go

1486
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 2: way back to nineteen oh two, the Reds play what

1487
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: you would call a farcical game against the Pirates in Pittsburgh.

1488
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: Cincinnati players did not want to play because a morning

1489
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: rain turned the field into a quagmire a swamp, but

1490
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh owner Barney Dreyfus, however, insisted on playing, and Red's

1491
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: manager Joe Kelly played most of his players at a

1492
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 2: position in retaliation, outfielders Mike Donlin and Cy Seymour and

1493
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 2: first baseman Jake Beckley. They were the pitchers in the game.

1494
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 2: While Kelly and Seymour casually smoked cigarettes on the field

1495
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 2: during the game, Pitcher Rube Vickers was used as a

1496
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 2: catcher in the game, and Vickers allowed six pass balls,

1497
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 2: which still stands as the modern Major League high for

1498
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: one game. Pittsburgh one eleven to two, and Dreyfus returned

1499
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: money to all the fans who had bought tickets to

1500
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: the game, and the embarrassed Reds president Gary Herman returned

1501
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati portion of the gate receipts to Dreyfus, so

1502
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. On this date in nineteen forty, the Reds

1503
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 2: lose the third game of the World Series seven to

1504
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: four to the Detroit Tigers in Detroit, but the Reds

1505
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: go on to win the nineteen forty World Series. On

1506
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: this date, in nineteen sixty five, Dave Sissler is fired

1507
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 2: as Reds manager by Bill de Witt. The successor was

1508
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 2: not immediately named. On this date, in nineteen seventy, the

1509
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 2: Reds win the second game of the National League Championship

1510
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 2: Series three to one against the Pirates in Pittsburgh. On

1511
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 2: this date in nineteen seventy five, the Reds win the

1512
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 2: first game of the National League Championship Series eight to

1513
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: three against the Pirates at Riverfront Stadium. And on this

1514
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 2: date in nineteen eighty one, Mario Soto pitches a one

1515
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 2: hitter against the Atlanta Braves at Riverfront Stadium in the

1516
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: final game of the season. The only Atlanta hit in

1517
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 2: the three to nothing Reds victory was a second inning

1518
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: single by Chris Shambless. All happened on this date, October

1519
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: four in Cincinnati Red's history and speaking of Bill to Wit,

1520
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: who was the owner of the Reds back in nineteen

1521
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 2: sixty five, on December ninth of that year, he traded

1522
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 2: Frank Robinson to the Baltimore Orioles for a trio of

1523
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 2: players Milt Pappis, Jack Balchin, and Dick Simpson. Papus while

1524
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 2: end up going thirty and twenty nine in his career

1525
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 2: in three seasons with the Reds, DeWitt felt the club

1526
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: needed more pitching, so they acquired Pappus and Jack Balchin,

1527
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: and all they did was get rid of a perennial

1528
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: All Star in Frank Robinson because DeWitt called him an

1529
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 2: old thirty You've heard this story before. And all Frank

1530
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 2: Robinson did that following season nineteen sixty six was win

1531
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: the Triple Crown with a three to sixteen batting average,

1532
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 2: forty nine home runs and one hundred and twenty two

1533
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 2: runs batted in winning the American League Triple Crown and

1534
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: then leading He won the AL MVP that year along

1535
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 2: with the Triple Crown and also led the Baltimore Orioles

1536
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: to the World's Series. The absolute worst trade in Red's

1537
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 2: history and arguably the worst trade in baseball history. It's

1538
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 2: right up there. Hey, you're listening to Sports Talk with

1539
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 2: your host Chick laud Week and tonight's producer Joe Waddell

1540
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 2: on seven hundred wlwre.

1541
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 15: Receivers go out to the right, two out to the left,

1542
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 15: three down linemen for Cincinnati and everybody else back me

1543
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 15: but six seconds to go back. Throws short over the middle.

1544
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 15: Now one backward toss, so well has it? Throws it

1545
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 15: backward to a tight end. Framer runs up the field

1546
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 15: of the forty Hawk is hit zero. Framer runs out

1547
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 15: of bounds and off. Bearcats are victorious. The student section.

1548
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 13: Comes pouring out onto the field here at Niffert Stadium.

1549
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 13: It is not an upset, It is an uprising. As

1550
01:34:54,160 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 13: Cincinnati knocks off undefeated fourteenth ranked Iowa State by the

1551
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 13: final score of thirty eight to thirty.

1552
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: Dan Horde right here on seven hundred WLW with the

1553
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: call the final play. Dan just does a phenomenal, phenomenal job.

1554
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 2: It's that simple. It's not an upset. It's an uprising.

1555
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: How about that? That is fantastic And before we go

1556
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 2: back out to the phones and Tom and Dayton, please

1557
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 2: hang on for a second. Ohio State has charged out

1558
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 2: to a twenty one to three lead on homecoming night

1559
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 2: at the Shoe against the Minnesota Golden Gophers twenty one

1560
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 2: to three at the six thirty five mark of the

1561
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 2: second quarter after a Minnesota field goal, touchdowns by CJ. Donaldson,

1562
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 2: a one yard run, Julian Saying with a six yard

1563
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Jeremiah Smith, and then Julian Saying with

1564
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 2: a forty five four yard strike to Carnell Tate twenty

1565
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 2: one to three Ohio State. And I want to give

1566
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: a shout out to a gentleman by the name of

1567
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 2: Phil Renfro, my new BFF, the newest Chick Magnets baseball

1568
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 2: coach at Yellow Springs High School and they head girls

1569
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: volleyball coach at Yellow Springs High School. I was there

1570
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: with Greg King today this morning reffing JV varsity volleyball

1571
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: against the Tri County North Panthers out of Louisbourg, Ohio.

1572
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 2: Had a great time and when the scorekeeper said, your

1573
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 2: voice sounds familiar. Do you do radio and I said, yes,

1574
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 2: where WLW in Cincinnati, and she alerted the head coach

1575
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 2: and we had a real nice discussion. Phil Renfro, quite

1576
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:04,440
Speaker 2: a guy multiple sports in the town that time forgot

1577
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Yellow Springs, Ohio, home of Antioch College, that was all

1578
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 2: over the news during the Vietnam War. And they're still

1579
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 2: protesting the Vietnam War in downtown Yellow Springs with their

1580
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 2: tied eyed shirts. I absolutely love that town. Let's go

1581
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 2: out to the phones and welcome in Tom in Dayton, Hi, Tom.

1582
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 17: Hi, Yellow Springs. That's funny, But I don't want to

1583
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 17: be a downer. I'm very very happy you see one today. Yeah,

1584
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 17: but what bothers me is the students storm the field

1585
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 17: and it seems to be okay. I don't think it's

1586
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 17: okay that students storm a football field, a basketball field,

1587
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 17: a volleyball field.

1588
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm not real wild about it. It's very dangerous. It

1589
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: is a very dangerous exhibition.

1590
01:37:55,439 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 17: Students, referees, the police. Yeah, I cannot approve that.

1591
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1592
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: I just hope there was no damage done to the field,

1593
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: to the stands or whatever, and hopefully everybody's all right,

1594
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 2: because people get trampled when a field gets rushed and

1595
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 2: I've seen.

1596
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 17: It and that's my point. Yeah, yeah, I'll line up,

1597
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 17: but yeah, I'm glad they won, but I cannot approve

1598
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 17: students rushing the field any sport. All right, thank you, all.

1599
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 2: Right, Tom, appreciate your call. Thank you very much. I

1600
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: want to ask, and I know it's going to the

1601
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: reverse radio will work a lot better during the week.

1602
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 2: I know that because fans are out out and about

1603
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 2: on this beautiful Saturday, celebrating with family and friends or

1604
01:38:55,120 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: watching college football, they're watching the baseball playoffs, and I

1605
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 2: want to update some Major League Baseball scores for you.

1606
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: The Dodgers now have taken a five to three lead

1607
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 2: over the Philadelphia Phillies, erasing a three to nze in lead.

1608
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the yes. The Dodgers scored after

1609
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 2: the Phillies scored three in the bottom of the second.

1610
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Dodgers scored two in the top of the sixth and

1611
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 2: three in the top of the seventh, and that's where

1612
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 2: it stands right now, in the bottom of the seventh inning,

1613
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 2: five to three Dodgers. Earlier today, the Toronto Blue Jays

1614
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 2: wiped out the New York Yankees in Toronto ten to one.

1615
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 2: The Brewers at home defeated the Chicago Cubs nine to three.

1616
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 2: Dodgers have that five to three lead over the Phillies

1617
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 2: and the inning in Seattle, the Mariners and the Tigers

1618
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 2: no score. So playoff baseball. There's nothing quite like it.

1619
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 2: And we saw that. The intensity of the crowd at

1620
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium, also known as Chavez Ravine, was incredible. You

1621
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 2: just heard a constant den in that stadium watching those games.

1622
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 2: And I didn't think the Reds were mentally or physically

1623
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 2: ready to play Game one out in La in the

1624
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 2: wild Card round, because they partied so hard on Sunday

1625
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 2: when they got in with the Mets loss to the

1626
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 2: Miami Marlins, I wondered how sober they were for that game.

1627
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: I just thought they'd be more mentally and physically prepared

1628
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: to play Game two, and really they were. And there

1629
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 2: were times in that game where the percentage of them

1630
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: winning was above fifty percent. When you load the bases

1631
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:17,759
Speaker 2: in the sixth inning with no outs and don't score,

1632
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 2: that is just a crusher from a confidence standpoint. They

1633
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 2: loaded the bases again in the eighth inning, but with

1634
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 2: two outs in a strikeout. So listening to Tommy Thrall

1635
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 2: earlier today with Sterling, and then listening to and listening

1636
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 2: to Tom Nichols earlier this evening with me. Yes, we're

1637
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 2: excited about next year in the prospects of this season,

1638
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of question marks. And it

1639
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 2: all starts with who are they going to keep and

1640
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 2: who are they going to let go? And I remember

1641
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,560
Speaker 2: sitting in a press box in Carolina at a Bengals

1642
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 2: Panthers game and Sam Weish was there and I asked Sam,

1643
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: because the Bengals were struggling with Dick lebou as the

1644
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 2: head coach, and I asked him, what should the Bengals do?

1645
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 2: And he said, find out who's helping you win and

1646
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: keep them, find out who's helping you lose and get

1647
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 2: rid of them. That's what the Cincinnati Reds have to do.

1648
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: We're looking at a bunch of unrestricted free agents and

1649
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: Nick Martinez, Wade Miley, Emelio Pegan, Zach Lettel, Miguel Andrewharr

1650
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 2: and then you've got club options on Austin Hayes, Brent Souiter.

1651
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 2: So the club has to figure out who they want

1652
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 2: to keep and who they want to let go. And

1653
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 2: I want to take this opportunity to thank tonight's producer

1654
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 2: Shoeless Joe Waddell, and especially thank all the loyal listeners,

1655
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 2: all the chick Magnets out there. I appreciate you, Thanks

1656
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 2: for tuning in, and until next time, this is the

1657
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Chickster Chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening to the home

1658
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 2: of the Reds and the best Bengals coverage. See you

1659
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 2: tomorrow night at the Cristview Hills Wings and Rings from

1660
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. I'll be with Bruce Kazerski Bengals legend,

1661
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 2: breaking it all down and what we hope will be

1662
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 2: a Bengals victory over the Detroit Lions tomorrow on seven

1663
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 2: hundred WA LW