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Speaker 1: Dave's not here, Yes, thank you, Grant is Dave's not here.

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Speaker 1: We will check it with Dave on Monday after the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. We're to hear a bunch of down coming

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Speaker 1: up here just a little bit. I haven't really got

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Speaker 1: your thoughts much on the Super Bowl, and I know

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Speaker 2: But general speaking, matchup Seahawks Patriots.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think on paper, you know, Seattle should win.

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Speaker 4: They are they've been a pretty dominant team all season.

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Speaker 4: Their defense isn't really really good, very ferocious. It's it's

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Speaker 4: an imposing defense. They gobble people up. They don't allow

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Speaker 4: a lot of yours after the catch, They come after

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Speaker 4: your butt back there.

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Speaker 2: They have a lot of weapons on offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and you know that that team seems

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Speaker 4: to have been galvanized by Pete Carroll's departure. So Pete

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Speaker 4: leaves and it's like gives you another shot of life.

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Speaker 4: So the structures in place. Pek Care obviously knew what

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Speaker 4: he was doing building a team but then coach McDonald

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Speaker 2: Man, they clearly liked their coach.

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Speaker 4: He's got a he's had a you know, incredible defense

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Speaker 4: then the offense and Sam donald are playing really well.

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Speaker 2: They got some incredible weapons.

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Speaker 4: The New England Patriots, Yeah, we don't think much about

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Speaker 1: We don't like them. We don't think they're very good.

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Speaker 1: They came, are we right, Well, we got to.

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Speaker 4: Give them a little bit of credit, you know, a

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Speaker 4: little more than I think we do, because you know,

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Speaker 4: you don't end up what they were thirteen for, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, and come on the road and really treacherous

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Speaker 2: Really, we're the ones who made mistakes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we had that game in hand, and I shouldn't

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Speaker 4: say we. The Broncos had the game in hand, should

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Speaker 4: have won, it could have won, it didn't. But the Patriots,

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Speaker 4: you know, to their credit, hung in there and made

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Speaker 2: They're truly, you know, clearly believe in their.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Mike Vrabel, because he hugs every one of

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Speaker 2: It's a big deal. It is a huge deal. And

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Speaker 2: Hackey do the same thing that didn't work out so well.

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Speaker 4: No, no, but he also gave you a really wet

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Speaker 2: So that's the difference. Like the hug, yes, the kiss

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Speaker 4: then when it's Nathaniel Hackett's like, you get away, Broy,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it depends on the guy, but I think

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Speaker 2: You hope the Seahawks win? I do. I believe they will.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't like the Patriots, or more specifically Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 4: He ended my career here. Did do those by not

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Speaker 4: that's how That's how Josh McDaniels does business cold right,

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Speaker 1: I like the way. I like the way you broke

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Speaker 1: It's it's remarkable. We talked about it earlier in the week.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba won last night the Offensive Player

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Speaker 2: He was trying to be funny, he was Do you

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Speaker 2: Come on, Rion Edwards, how do you pronounce that?

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Speaker 1: Couldn't pronounce Mike Rabel? Oh she couldn't she she butchered

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it's future. You also say, often.

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Speaker 2: We just lay it down the low. No, this is

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Speaker 2: a potato potato situation. But futile. That's that's wrong. That

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Internet, the Internet firm any of your biases,

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Speaker 1: At you and you say, wow, that was futile. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The Broncos got snapped last night. I'm gonna get to that.

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Speaker 4: You got to prepare, you know, with a scowl on

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Speaker 4: your face, you know, Bill a chickie. Yeah, we can

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Speaker 4: There's nobody up there telling jokes and being all fun

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Speaker 2: No? No, No, you gotta be serious.

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Speaker 4: This is a serious thing and we have not a

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Speaker 2: So let's get this thing done. Are you paying attention? Ryan?

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Speaker 4: Davis does. Yeah, well, all sensible men do. So I

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Speaker 3: Because they're both white guys or no, they're kind of

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking at pictures of both of

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Speaker 2: similar age. I mean, how many green Spans can there be?

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Speaker 1: Right, it's probably a green Span family and they're both

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that kind of thing. With's some other

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Speaker 1: They've got her back, and they've already tweeted at her,

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Speaker 2: Saying he doesn't believe you. Wow, motivation because all athletes

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Speaker 1: Like teenagers like giggling every time, like Michael McDonald. It's

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Speaker 5: What do you think about the possibility of Sean Payton

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Speaker 6: That's on you to this side. I don't love it.

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Speaker 6: But if Shawn wants to become more of a CEO

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Speaker 6: You should make that for him.

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Speaker 4: everyone's trying to do it real quick quick.

438
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Speaker 2: That was a lot.

439
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Speaker 1: But let me ask you this head coaches that call plays. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 1: generally speaking, what's your opinion on that? Yeah, I mean

441
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Speaker 1: I think it depends on offense versus defense. Because we

442
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Speaker 1: have Mike Michael, Mike McDonald, he calls the defense. Yeah,

443
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,959
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, that's that's unique.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Vrabel does not, by the way, he is just

445
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Speaker 2: the CEO coach. So what do you think?

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's whatever works for you.

447
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 4: You know, you still have to be able to compartmentalize

448
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 4: and still keep an eye on the clock and be

449
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 4: able to do timeouts and you know, substitutions and decide

450
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 4: whether or not to go forward on fourth to day,

451
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 4: wore it down, and whether or not to do the

452
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 4: fake that you have in your back pocket, and converse

453
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Speaker 4: some of the special teams coach to make sure we

454
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Speaker 4: were on the same page and be able to talk

455
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Speaker 4: to you know. So I think there's a lot of

456
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Speaker 4: the things that a head coach might want to do

457
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Speaker 4: during the course of the game that play calling might limit.

458
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Speaker 2: Your ability to do.

459
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Speaker 4: And so you see a lot of a lot of

460
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Speaker 4: coaches end up giving it up as they get older.

461
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Speaker 4: Mike Shanahan did it because he, you know, trusted Gary

462
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 4: Kubiak to call the plays, and and maybe Sean Payton's

463
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Speaker 4: on that same trajectory.

464
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Speaker 2: But it's a challenge.

465
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Speaker 4: It's got to be a challenge when you go from

466
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Speaker 4: being a coordinator where all you're focused on is your

467
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 4: unit and calling the game, all of a sudden you

468
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Speaker 4: have to pull the lens back and decide on you know,

469
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Speaker 4: for example, what Sean Payton, the head coach, have gone

470
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Speaker 4: forward on fourth and one if he wasn't calling the play.

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Speaker 1: I think so, but maybe the play call who knows.

472
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Speaker 1: It's a tough stay because he can override.

473
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Speaker 2: Right. So if Davis Webb, right.

474
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Speaker 1: As we're talking about it, comes in and says, I

475
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: got a great running play, and Sean's like, now I

476
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Speaker 1: want to I think we should throw it here. He

477
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: is the head coach after all, and he say, yeah,

478
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Speaker 1: let's go for it. I agree with you, because he's

479
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: actually going to Dave's web saying, hey, I want to

480
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Speaker 1: go for it. Give me your best fourth and one

481
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: play right now? Yeah, And Davis is like quarterback sneak

482
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Speaker 1: and he's like, now with the backup quarterback, we're doing that.

483
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Speaker 1: Did that with Bo Bo did the great he was

484
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Speaker 1: fantastic this year at Jared Sidham. That's not really his game.

485
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna go with something else here. And you know,

486
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Speaker 1: I think we have a great pass play that I've designed, Davis,

487
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Speaker 1: I want you to call that play.

488
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Speaker 2: So I don't think it changes anything.

489
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Speaker 4: Well, or he kind of has more of a finger

490
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Speaker 4: on the pulse of the moment in that you call

491
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Speaker 4: it time. Now, Okay, maybe maybe we don't have to play.

492
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Speaker 4: Let's just kick it. You know what I mean, we

493
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Speaker 4: talked about it. We don't have to.

494
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Speaker 2: Go for it. Let's just kick it.

495
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Speaker 4: You know a lot of the substitutions and the things

496
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Speaker 4: that you get wrapped up in and like, oh, I

497
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: got to get the perfect play out there and the

498
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: perfect personnel group out there. When you're the offensive coordinator,

499
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Speaker 4: that can kind of take over your mind as a

500
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Speaker 4: head coach, would you see that sort of dysfunction and

501
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Speaker 4: be like, well, we're just gonna kick it. You guys

502
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 4: don't even know what you're doing. It's it's let's kick it.

503
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Speaker 4: So I think it could be good for him in

504
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Speaker 4: that regard to kind of see the game better and

505
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Speaker 4: see what the team needs and not what he wants

506
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Speaker 4: to happen on offense.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that is interesting for me, we have

508
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Speaker 1: this conversation at the beginning about why fans are pushing

509
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Speaker 1: for the idea of Davis web Right, the unknown portion

510
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Speaker 1: of it in being closer to Bonix, all those kinds

511
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Speaker 1: of things. But I do think the development of the

512
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Speaker 1: future is important here and now now for Sean. You

513
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Speaker 1: know you're not going to develop the guy that's going

514
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Speaker 1: to take your job, Like nobody wants to do that.

515
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Speaker 1: And even when you're a player, it's the same kind

516
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Speaker 1: of deal, like I don't want to You don't want

517
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Speaker 1: to coach up the guy that's coming in here to

518
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Speaker 1: take your job, even if they say, well, you're the

519
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Speaker 1: vet in the room. We want you to continue to

520
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: work with these receivers and get them to speed, those

521
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Speaker 1: kind of things. But I've always talked to Dave Logan

522
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Speaker 1: for years where he said my mindset when I played,

523
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to help out any of those guys

524
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Speaker 1: because I knew they were all coming for me. He's like,

525
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Speaker 1: I wanted to be out there on the field, all

526
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Speaker 1: I can, well, not everybody's not everybody's the same. I

527
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Speaker 1: mean yeah, and Rod Smith, for example, talked to him

528
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Speaker 1: many times. He was big on developing the room right that.

529
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Speaker 1: That was the example that popped into my head. I mean,

530
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Speaker 1: you know, I was in a in that receiver room

531
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Speaker 1: with Ed McCaffrey and Rod Smith, two guys who were

532
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Speaker 1: you know, super Bowl winners.

533
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Speaker 2: Very successful receivers. Rod was very helpful to the young guys.

534
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Speaker 4: Ed was, you know, didn't It's not that he wanted

535
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Speaker 4: us to fail, but he wasn't going out of his

536
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Speaker 4: way to help. I think everybody's different, sure, and Rod,

537
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Speaker 4: that was part of his like what he wanted. He

538
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 4: wanted to leave these guys with tools that they could

539
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Speaker 4: use to succeed because he knew that the better we were,

540
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Speaker 4: the better the team would be.

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Speaker 1: You think, so, yeah, but I but I And so

542
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Speaker 1: it's a weird thing. I've seen both sides that I can.

543
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Speaker 1: I can kind of understand both sides. I think for

544
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Speaker 1: fans oftentimes it'd be like, well, why wouldn't you want

545
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Speaker 1: everybody better? Often times I don't think about it, and

546
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about it. There, no, no, I just

547
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Speaker 1: said it. So but in this case, he, you know,

548
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Speaker 1: Rod helping you guys out. I think most fans would

549
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Speaker 1: appreciate the room that works together like that. Yeah, And

550
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: same thing with the quarterbacks. Right, It's like, well, Bo's

551
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: the starter, but you don't want Jared Sidham sabotaging bo

552
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Speaker 1: Nix because that hurts the team.

553
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Speaker 4: Oh And I bet if you ask BO, a good

554
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Speaker 4: deal of his development is because of Jared, right, who's.

555
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Speaker 2: The backup who also wants to start.

556
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And jareded Stidham has seen more than Bo has

557
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Speaker 4: seen as far as you know, game planning and play

558
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 4: design and things like that.

559
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Speaker 2: He's been around, he's a veteran.

560
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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, we we credit Davis Webb

561
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Speaker 4: for the development of bo Nix a lot, but I

562
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Speaker 4: think probably Jared Stidham has just as much to do

563
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Speaker 4: with Bo's preparedness temperament, you know, ability to kind of

564
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Speaker 4: deal with the moment, as as Davis Webb. You know,

565
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Speaker 4: both of those guys backup quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Here's dan Orlowski talking about the progression for Bonix from

567
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Speaker 1: your one to year two, not only.

568
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Speaker 7: From your one year two but kind of like the

569
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Speaker 7: start of year twos at the end of year two,

570
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Speaker 7: I think he settled down a lot more, became a

571
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Speaker 7: lot more consistent with his feet. Obviously was clutching some big,

572
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Speaker 7: big moments, but I think.

573
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Speaker 8: That that consistency was a big deal.

574
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Speaker 5: What do you think the Broncos need to do here

575
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Speaker 5: in the off season to get bo Nick some more weapons?

576
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you would love a more like Mims

577
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 8: is really good, but maybe a little bit more of

578
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Speaker 8: a vertical threat that's gotten a traditional wide receiver skill set.

579
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Speaker 2: I think it would be a big deal.

580
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Speaker 8: I think, you know, I don't think the offensive line

581
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Speaker 8: played as well as it was expected to play this

582
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Speaker 8: year as well.

583
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Speaker 2: I think that's got to be another thing.

584
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 7: Get that offensive line protection wise more consistent.

585
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Speaker 5: And finally, Davis Webb promoted to offensive coordinator. What do

586
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Speaker 5: you think about the possibility of Sean Payton giving a

587
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Speaker 5: play calling to him if he does do so.

588
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shawn's a great play caller. Man.

589
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Speaker 8: There's only so many guys that can sequence play calling.

590
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: Like Sean, so I would be hesitant on that.

591
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Speaker 8: I think he's that talented.

592
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Speaker 1: What would you do, like I asked Dave this yesterday,

593
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Speaker 1: running back, wide receiver, tight end, how would you rank

594
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Speaker 1: those as positions of need that you would focus on

595
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Speaker 1: the Bronx. The Bronx is probably add an all three.

596
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Speaker 1: But like, how would you put more allocation to? What

597
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: would you put more allocation to?

598
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Speaker 4: I think they need a tight end. Okay, they need

599
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: a tight end who can do it all.

600
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Speaker 1: Okay, would you get down the draft or would you

601
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Speaker 1: get that a free agency?

602
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: Both?

603
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you'd ad I'd revamp the room. Okay, I'm

604
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Speaker 1: here for that.

605
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Speaker 4: Personally, I don't think I would. You know, as much

606
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: as Adam Troutman has been a big part of the

607
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: rebuild the culture and stuff like that, I don't think

608
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Speaker 4: he played well enough to justify keeping him as his

609
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: starting tight end on this team.

610
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Speaker 2: I don't.

611
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Speaker 4: And Evan Ingram, the joker hasn't been you know, it

612
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: just didn't seem like it messed with his offense.

613
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Speaker 2: His skill set is.

614
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Speaker 4: Almost unusable with like sixty percent of the plays in

615
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Speaker 4: the playbook. Yeah, that's a joker because it's like but

616
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Speaker 4: it's just I mean, he's like six' one to twenty.

617
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Speaker 4: Five you, know he's not a guy who's gonna go

618
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Speaker 4: high point a. BALL i, mean, so SO i think

619
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Speaker 4: those two positions need to be. Filled you need every

620
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: down type of tight end who can do. Everything and

621
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Speaker 4: then maybe if you want a more vertical thread tight,

622
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Speaker 4: end get that guy in the draft if you.

623
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Speaker 2: CAN i Like Kate.

624
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Speaker 4: ATTON i think that's the type of tight end THAT i,

625
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 4: think you KNOW i would like in this.

626
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: Room he's a complete guy with a complete.

627
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 4: Guy who's an upgrade From Adam, troutman but a kind

628
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: of similar every down, player.

629
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Speaker 2: Good receiving tight, end, too good receiving tight end.

630
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: Exactly and then get, it maybe a more dynamic pass

631
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Speaker 4: catching young guy who has the ability to round out

632
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 4: into a good. Blocker because the magic of having toof

633
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: tight ends on the field who can both block and

634
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: catch is that it's not Any the.

635
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Defense doesn't know what you're gonna.

636
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 4: Do and if they Put nickel out, there then you

637
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 4: run the, ball and if they Put bigs out, there

638
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 4: then you can throw it and create mismatches that. Way

639
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 4: SO i think having tight ends who are more versatile

640
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: than like, SPECIALIZED i really think they need to d

641
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 4: special lies their skill position players and have guys that

642
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: do it, all that can run every.

643
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: Route and that's What orlowski is talking.

644
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 4: About skill set instead of the package is where this

645
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: one guy does this one thing for us and then

646
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: we build off of. THAT i think we need to

647
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 4: have guys who do everything, well good football, players and

648
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: that's The Bill, Bell Bellot chick.

649
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: Model So sean.

650
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Speaker 1: Mcvay's doing a lot of that, right thirteen personnel putting

651
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: three tight ends out on the, field and it's like

652
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Speaker 1: trying to a masterup, standpoint you feel like you got

653
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Speaker 1: to go. Big, yeah if they're gonna put three tight

654
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: ends on the, field but all three of them are pass,

655
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Speaker 1: catchers yeah as.

656
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 4: Well, yeah and you can do, that you, know but

657
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 4: you got to commit to. That and that means you

658
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: got to commit to the run. Too and so a

659
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: lot of the stuff we talk about with The broncos running,

660
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: game it's a commitment.

661
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: Issue it's it's a practice. Issue it's how you structure every.

662
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: Day Saying sean has commitment, issues he.

663
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: Does it shouldn't be that if you're running back goes,

664
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: down your team changes like that you stop running the.

665
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: Ball, no.

666
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: You remember the old days of The shanahanian running Game Shannahaniyan.

667
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: Shanahanian it, was or at least the adage, was you

668
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: can put anybody back there and they'll get a thousand.

669
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: YARDS i mean that the early early two thousands and, yeah.

670
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: Ninety every year there was Someone Mike, anderson And Mike,

671
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: Anderson Gary Tatum.

672
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: Bell Tadum, Bell, Yeah Mike. Jones.

673
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: YEAH i don't know If Selvin young had some good

674
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: games out there for, Sure so if one of them went,

675
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: down we weren't going to abandon what we. Did we

676
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: were gonna keep doing. It we're gonna put someone back.

677
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: There we could see those holes and we. Developed but

678
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: it was about the offensive. Line it was about the tight.

679
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: End it was about the receivers. Blocking that's what we,

680
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: did and we did it every day at a pace

681
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: and an intensity that let us know that this was

682
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: our bread and.

683
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: Butter to, me The broncos didn't do. That dan was

684
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: critically the offensive. Line what do you think about their?

685
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: Players?

686
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 4: Sure, YEAH i think that it depends what you talk, to,

687
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: Right like they're graded really, well but then some people

688
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: say they sucked and like they pushed. AROUND i mean

689
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: that last game didn't look great for him against The.

690
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Patriots you know, AGAIN i think it's about and without

691
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: being A i'm not an offensive line specialist, here BUT

692
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: i think that if there's an attitude with these guys

693
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: and they want to go, forward, right and if you

694
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: want to develop a running, game you have to create

695
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: an attitude in those running in those offensive linemen to.

696
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: Attack and when you're leading the league in pass.

697
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: Attempts which they, are which they, were and you have

698
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's been drilled into his mind to just

699
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball as quickly as. Possible never

700
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: take a, Sack never take a, Sack never take a,

701
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Sack never take a. Sack then the offensive line is

702
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: going to look pretty good because everything's designed to get

703
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: it out of their. Hand and then the quarterback is

704
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: really good at not taking a. Sack so maybe the

705
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: offensive line metrics are skewed by.

706
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: That by the quick pass.

707
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: Game you're throwing the ball more than anybody, else but

708
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: you're just throwing it to the. Side real quick offensive

709
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 4: line looks great and to play like, that, right and

710
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: When bo is able to sense, pressure get out of the,

711
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: pocket dish the ball and not take, sacks that also

712
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: bodes well on the metrics of the offensive. Line but

713
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: if you're asking him to do more advanced dropbacks plays

714
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: that take longer to, develop things like, that do they

715
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: do as?

716
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: Well are you just not asking him to do it as?

717
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: Much and when it comes to the running, game are

718
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: you committing to it enough to allow these guys to

719
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: really get a ladder going and turn into attack?

720
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Mode AND i would say the answer is. No there

721
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: so it's, like can they do?

722
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: It?

723
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: Yes they? Can did they do?

724
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: It?

725
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: No because they weren't asked to do.

726
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: It on The Kway Commas Spirit hill text, line who's

727
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: this new weirdo that has an arm hair?

728
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Phobia it's not a. Phobia it's not a. Phobia it's

729
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: just it's a Recollection i'm giving. You, guys you're painting a.

730
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: Picture i'm painting a picture Of Mike vrabel's super furry.

731
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Arms but if you were being honest with, yourself this

732
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: is a little bit of A you went out of

733
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: your way to point it, out and then you started

734
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: talking about a guy that shaved his.

735
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: Arms, well it just reminded me of like a thing. There,

736
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: no it reminded me of the other one of the

737
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: opposite of the.

738
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: Opposite but, no we were talking About Mike vrabel and

739
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: that was literally my memory of playing against the.

740
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Thing that jumps. Out, yeah is he is unusually like

741
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: it rubbed all against. Me it was all. SWEATY i was, like, eh.

742
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: Wh what is that movie With Ben? Stiller along Came

743
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: polly or the guy jumps into his face and it's, like,

744
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: right you can just feels a little bit of.

745
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: That AND i was just like kind of grossed, out

746
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 4: WHICH i would never get grossed. Out you don't want

747
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: to feel on a football field with normal contact and

748
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: things like, that but there was this moment With Mike.

749
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: RABOL i was grossed, out and that's like hard to

750
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: get grossed out in a combat.

751
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: Situation do you think.

752
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: There is a syke out factor or he's he knows

753
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: he has unusually harry, arms.

754
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: So he's like putting rogan on it to make it even.

755
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: More that's, possible.

756
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: Man you mentioned it's like, Back they're like what are

757
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: you doing? There you know you're just LIKE i just

758
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: gonna get the, ladder he. Said the syke out factor psycho. Factor,

759
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Well i'm just saying because like is a defensive, player.

760
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: He's coming into it to you, know, no you to

761
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: try to be as gross as. Possible you're gonna avoid

762
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: him the best you, can, Right but there's always what

763
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: you can.

764
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Do and then you're, like, well not only does he

765
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: hit very, hard BUT i don't want to be tackled

766
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: to the.

767
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Ground you're weird hairy? Arms, hi there rows harry. Arms

768
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: and what.

769
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: About if you're on like a flight and like someone

770
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: sitting next to, You oh, gosh, no and you're sharing

771
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: an armrest and you can like and there's hold, on

772
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: are you.

773
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: That guy where it's, like you, know Like i'm taking both. Armrests?

774
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: No, okay, well if you're in the, MIDDLE i guess

775
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: in the middle might be able to do. That, yeah

776
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: but if there's someone who like wants to be so

777
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: close to you and their hairy arm you can feel the. Hair,

778
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: yeah that's not. Good, okay MAYBE i have a. PHOBIA

779
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: i really. Do, well the way you're describing it doesn't

780
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: sound very. Palatable i'd, say if you're three seats, right

781
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: you're the against the, wall, right the window you lean

782
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: against like you you lean that. Direction, yeah you should

783
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: try to give the person in the middle as much

784
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: because it's. Already but then sometimes the middle person really

785
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: exploits that and then goes real.

786
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Wide that's the points put the elbows in the. AIR i,

787
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: mean then it. Can't so then you gotta re establish your.

788
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: Territory and you gotta wait till they put their arm

789
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: down for a second that you sneak it up there

790
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: and then they.

791
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: Go back to put.

792
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: Up, nope you're, right my arm rests, now, Pal get

793
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: your hairy arms out of. Here get your wear a

794
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: long sleeve shirt on this flight if you have arms like. Them,

795
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: yeah and then don't take off your.

796
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: Shoes, yeah people like you, know airline etiquette has changed

797
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: over the, years you, know people wear questionable outfits on

798
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 4: the on the.

799
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: Airplane so he.

800
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: Says colorado Not. Colorado, YEAH i disagree with that. ONE

801
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: i think do you say? Colorado you just Say? Colorado Say, Colorado,

802
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Well colorado is the more correct. Pronunciation, yeah there's an

803
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: a in, THERE.

804
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: I, know but, ah like the it's A spanish, word it, is,

805
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 4: okay do you?

806
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: Laughing just?

807
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: Randomly it's A spanish words as in like, that well that.

808
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 4: They they don't do the, ath they don't do the

809
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: like the winy a in that it's a whitey a

810
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: when The colorado at is a winy. A, yeah because

811
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 4: that's how they teach.

812
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: It my son is. Six he's in.

813
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: Kindergarten he's learning these, things and that's what they call.

814
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: It a winy a LIKE i never heard of. Wine,

815
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: well you're not in kindergarten in twenty twenty. Six that's

816
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 4: how they're teaching.

817
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: It, Okay So colorado doesn't have a winy. A it's Not.

818
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: Colorado It's colorado because It's, spanish, Right but not All spanish,

819
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: origin like city names or state, names are correctly.

820
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: Pronounced Los angeles is a good. Example should Be Los.

821
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: Angeles it's.

822
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 4: Not there's an area in In La if you saw

823
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: it on a piece of, paper you'd, say, oh That's Los.

824
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: Felice do you know what they call? It Los? Felis

825
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: so go, figure go, figure