1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 3: All right, here we go our number two, Sincy three 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Don't adjust your dials. 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: It's not Friday. It is Thursday. But Kentucky Basketball is 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: going to bump Cincy three sixty tomorrow. But we're not 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: going to bump an opportunity to talk to Charlie Goldsmith. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: So Charlie has been nice enough to move up to 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: today as we kick off our number two. Joining us 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: right now, our good friend Charlie Goldsmith. Charlie, how you 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: doing doing great? 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: What's up guys? 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: How's your bracket looking? Early on? Charlie perfect. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 4: You know I wasn't going to do one this year 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: and the Cincy three sixty bracket challenges what got me in? 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 5: You have the second person to say that. Rick Brewing 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 5: said that earlier. Believe it or not. Rick Boring said 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 5: he hasn't filled out a bracket in five years until today, 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 5: So thankful. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm similar. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 4: It's like the same reason I don't play fantasy football, 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 4: but I'm happy and hope that everyone else doing that 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: has fun. 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: How much of it has to do with the fact 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: that you just can't write the Bearcat's name on a line. 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: Something felt missing in the first four You know, no 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 4: Cincinnati knows, Xavier, I guess you had Miami or presenting 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: the Tristate area. And I look forward to seeing UC 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: back where they're supposed. 31 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: To be before we get into it. Some reds who 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: cuts down the nets for you at the end of 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: the tournament. 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: Wow, I think Arizona is just Arizona reminds me of 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: the Big East teams that I grew up watching, and 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: that scratches that nostalgic itch for me. 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: And they're really good. So I'm going with the Waldcats. 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: The latest from spring training. Yesterday we saw Brady Singer 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: with the blister, and obviously you don't want to make 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: a big deal about blisters, but when you're already going 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: to be without Hunter Green and there were questions around 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: Chase Burns earlier in the week, everything is a big 43 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: deal right now for this pitching staff. Does it feel 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: like something that is serious for this team or something 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: that's just more precautionary. 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: The real answer to that question, I won't know. 47 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: And they won't know until Brady's back in the building 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: tomorrow and they sit down with them. Now, Brady's speaking postgame, 49 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: and then Terry Francona speaking post game, kind of had 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,279 Speaker 4: an optimistic lens, like the blister didn't pop, it was precautious, 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. I think a sneaky story 52 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: from yesterday too, is that in the other Split Squad game, 53 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: the one I was at, Chase Burns only went two 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 4: plus innings, got up to around fifty pitches, but after 55 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 4: he had the d load day, he didn't necessarily get 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 4: in as deep to the next game as he wanted 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 4: to just because of how the game went. So that'll 58 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: probably have Burns around I guess eighty to ninety pitches 59 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 4: on opening day, but not as built up as you'd 60 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 4: want in theory and all of this, you know, moving pieces, chess, 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: you know all this stuff going on. It's like the 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: matrix or something trying to puzzle together. How exactly this 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 4: pitching plans going to work as they get into the season. 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you wrote about the condensed six man rotation. Why 65 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: did they decide to do it that way? 66 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: I think the most important thing is it gets the 67 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: best thirteen guys in the roster, so it gives them 68 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: a better shot to beat the Pirates without sacrificing development, 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: because Burns, Louder, and Williamson are all going to stay 70 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: on five day routines. Now I could tell you how 71 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 4: it's gonna work through the first week. I'm deep into 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: the spreadsheets trying to figure out how the heck it's 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: going to look after that. Honestly, I've got nothing right now, 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: and I know it won't last into the middle of April. 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: It'll probably be determined by just assuming everyone stays healthy. 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: How these guys look, how deep these. 77 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: Guys are going into games when they need to make 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: a roster move to add something to the bullpen if 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: they needed a fresh arm one day. So you know, 80 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: as we've kind of established that first Pirate series, you'll, 81 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: I would guess, see Burns and Williamson on Monday, and 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: then Louder starting on Tuesday, and then we'll see after that. 83 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: And I don't think anything's settings soup. 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: I do wonder because and we can have this conversation. 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: We will, we'll talk about Matt McClain. But it's the 86 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: constant back and forth of spring training. It gets long 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: and drawn out and you wonder, Okay, how much are 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: guys working on stuff as opposed to how much our guys, 89 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, kind of trying to find tune what they 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: need to do. And I think as Opening day gets closer, 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: you start to wonder that more and more. And I 92 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: asked that now because without Hunter Green on opening Day, 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: we look at Andrew Abbot and over thirteen innings in 94 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: the spring, Charlie, he's given up twenty four hits and 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: twenty earned runs. Is there anything about Andrew Abbot right 96 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: now in spring training that worries you about carrying over 97 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: into the regular season Because we're now so close to 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: opening Day. 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: I think you get different opinions asking different people on this. 100 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: My opinion right now is going to be not really 101 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: because the mistakes that I'm latching onto, you know, what's 102 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 4: led to his struggles have been focused related. They've been walks, 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: and they've been pitches, mistakes that he just left right 104 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: over the middle of the plate. I just don't think 105 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: that's Andrew's game. I think that's just more spring training stuff. 106 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: But he's not, you know, getting the zip with the 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: fastball and the rise that you'd want to see from him. 108 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: The spin isn't getting these big awkward swings, Like maybe 109 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: you'd want to showcase some upside in the spring, So 110 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: you know, maybe I take this back in a week 111 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: or two if Andrew struggles, But as of right now, 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 4: I think it's just more spring training stuff. But I 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: can't give you a firm you know, I can't say 114 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: anything right now that would make you feel a whole 115 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 4: lot better with how it's looked. 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: Should I have to curb my excitement for Matt McClain 117 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: with his long pants and his five forty five batting 118 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: average through spring training because it's just the spring. 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: There is truly tangible, real stuff with Matt McClain, with 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: his process, with his pitch selection, with the way his 121 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: batpath coincides with low and a wat sliders like I 122 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: talked with a bunch of people about this over the 123 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: last week, including McLain, who says he's generated real confidence 124 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: from this because for the first time he can see 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: some stuff that he worked on all off season a 126 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: lot like actually working implemented, Like he is feeling process 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: oriented goals be or succeed in a way that he 128 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: wasn't able to last year. So for those reasons, I 129 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 4: think there's a lot that is real with Matt McLean 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: and now he's looked this spring in the Reds obviously 131 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: feel that way. 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: As he'll hit second. 133 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 5: Four, I feel like it's almost been a quiet spring 134 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: for Ellie de la Cruz. Do you feel like that's 135 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 5: the case. I mean, obviously you're there every day, and 136 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 5: not to say that quiet is a bad thing, but 137 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: how do would you assess up until this point with 138 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 5: a week to go, the spring that Ellie de la 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 5: Cruz has had. 140 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: He had that one monster right handed swing that was 141 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: kind of the only like wow, crazy Ellie moment that 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: usually you know, generates all that buzz from a mistakes perspective. 143 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: I can only remember one air, so that's good. It's 144 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 4: not like he's struggled defensively, because that's something you talk 145 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: about talking to the Reds about Ellie. 146 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: What it is is, what this season's just. 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: Going to be is not continued evolution and balance of 148 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: swinging at the right pitches and strike zone judgment and 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: balancing that with a greater emphasis on being more dangerous, 150 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: having that aggressive mindset and balancing and wang and going 151 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: back and forth between those two things. When yielding more 152 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: into that aggressive dangerous mode. When do you need to 153 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: reel it in a bit that's just going to be 154 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: a process Elie goes through all year, and a process 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: you can't even really see in spring training, so he's 156 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: not really a spring training will tell you about guy 157 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: right now. So there just hasn't been a lot to 158 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: say about him. 159 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: You mentioned yesterday JJ Bleday with a home run, reshigns 160 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 3: with a home run resigns. You look at the statistical splits, 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: he's had a very nice spring. Is that a roster 162 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: battle that's shaping up and maybe one that we didn't 163 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: take into account with resigns based on what he's done 164 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: and the pressure maybe he's put on this organization. 165 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: I view it as a three man battle between low, 166 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: Bleday and Hines for one spot, and it comes down 167 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: to kind of how you view theoretically these individual players. 168 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: So let's start here. 169 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: Let's start with the fact that I expect Marte to 170 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: be the right fielder. I also think Benson deserves to 171 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: play most day's verse right handed pitching. He's kind of 172 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: a tenth man right now. That's a good place to be. 173 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: Injuries will happen, they'll all get their chances, But because 174 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: of that you know, it's hard to get that twenty 175 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: six man regular at bats, like if it's especially Bledet 176 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: or Hines, like, you'd really have to force the issue 177 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: to get them consistent playing time. So where are they 178 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: at in their careers because they're both pretty young, they're 179 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: both legitimate upside players. Ideally they both keep playing every 180 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: day or is this the stage where you know what, 181 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: let's just shift them to being role players. They might 182 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: not play every day, but they've got to kind of 183 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: learn how to come off the bench because that's who 184 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: they are. 185 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: Like, do you need to keep playing them every day? 186 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: And since that twenty six man won't play a ton, 187 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: you give this spot to low and keep your organizational depth. 188 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: I think Bla Day's probably the best of the three. 189 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: Like if you just had to make a line of today, 190 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: I have hitting the highest. But Heines man, he can 191 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 4: play like if you just gave Reese three hundred at 192 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: baths to figure it out, which he's not going to 193 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: get with the Reds right now with how they're built. Like, 194 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 4: I think Hines would do pretty solid, especially because his 195 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: defense has improved over the last twelve months as much 196 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: as anybody here. So like any of these guys would 197 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: hit like fifth in the opening day line up for 198 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: the Reds anytime between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty five, 199 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 4: and the fact that they're competing for a spot, it's 200 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: a good spot for the Reds to be right now, I. 201 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 5: Want to go back to the condensed six man rotation 202 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: and what the Reds are doing. I know you wrote 203 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 5: that it's not gonna last very long, and I think 204 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 5: you wrote or throughout the day April twentieth as a 205 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 5: potential point for it, and Francona said before that why 206 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 5: end it so quickly? Is there any explanation as to 207 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: why it's such a short term thing and what the 208 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 5: plan might be after? 209 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: That can really kill your. 210 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: Bullpen if it really doesn't work out, so like if 211 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: it's a day where you know you're already so you 212 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: already just kind of seven relievers, and then if someone 213 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: has a short start and there's a rain delay, and 214 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: also most of your pitchers don't have minor league options, 215 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: like or you just don't want to option because like 216 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 4: they're not gonna option, you know, one of their top guys. 217 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: You get stuck pretty quickly, so they have off days 218 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: they can use early in the season. You can kind 219 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 4: of see how it plays out early in the season, 220 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: but you kind of need that bullpen up because we 221 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: see it every year, you know, shuffling that eighth spot 222 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: to get a fresh arm in. You'll have to do 223 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: that twice as much if you only have seven arms 224 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: and then a lot of these depth guys, you know 225 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 4: mal Hagen Dan it would be one of the first 226 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: guys up. He's not on a forty man but but 227 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: he's out of options. So because the guys on the 228 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: on the cusp of your bullpen don't have options, you 229 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: probably run into a into a wall. 230 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 5: Eventually, seem like Sam Maul is gonna be the last 231 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 5: guy in that bullpen, do you. 232 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: That would be my guess. It was actually really interesting, 233 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: like nobody cares. But in November they could have non 234 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: tendered him. Instead they guaranteed him a salary for this season. 235 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: Not a big one, yeah, but notable for a guy 236 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: who went during camp wasn't wasn't wasn't on my projected roster. 237 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: They did it to kind of have that insurance, that depth. Also, 238 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: they didn't have Rock Burke and Caleb ferguson yet, so 239 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: at least you have one Lefty on your rostar already, 240 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: but again that kind of reinforcement in case seeing how 241 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: things play out in spring, and they played out that 242 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 4: way because Ferguson unfortunately got hurt. So it turned out 243 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: the decision to guaranteem all that salary in November paid off. 244 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: Now he doesn't have options, but he looks He looks 245 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: good when he's throwing strikes, and he's throwing more strikes recently, 246 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: so it's him versus Maxwell for that last I think 247 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: Maul's lack of options nudges him. 248 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: Up the board. Charlie, when everything went down with Hunter Green, 249 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of folks that were 250 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: just confused about the timeline and why this wasn't addressed 251 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: when the offseason got here, and how it worked when 252 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: Hunter Green arrived back to spring training and he did 253 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: speak earlier in the week, how much of that now 254 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: has been cleared up in your opinion of why this 255 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: decision was made in the offseason verse now the surgery 256 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: having to happen. How much did did Hunter Green clear 257 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: up for you when he spoke earlier in the week. 258 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: This is by far the most transparent Hunter's ever been 259 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: about an injury like the groin injury last year. We 260 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: never got a ton of solid exactly what was going on, 261 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: just from when he tweaked it again in July and 262 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: why he needed an extra rehab a start and stuff 263 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: like that. Like meanwhile, Hunter now is showing us specifically 264 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: his range of motion and talking about the recommendation he 265 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: got from Elatrosha in October and what that meant for 266 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: the timeline. Like he went through every detail and I 267 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: think if you listen to to the whole eight minutes, 268 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: it makes sense here and what he's coming from. Honestly, 269 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: Like sincerely not to be too positive, but my reaction 270 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: talking to Hunter was feeling better about the second half 271 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: of Hunter season than I felt coming in. Literally him 272 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: showing this the range of motion, that it's just some 273 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: tape over his elbow as opposed to any sort of 274 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: brace or soft cast or anything like that. The idea 275 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: that he and he talked about this the chips are removed, 276 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 4: so like the issue was fixed, and then he kind 277 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: of hinted at the idea of beating the timeline, so 278 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. I don't think the Reds want 279 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: him to rush it because of how important he is, 280 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: but I felt better after seeing Hunter. 281 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: And talking to him. 282 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 5: I agree with that. I said that the other day. 283 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: Do you think that like the way the narrative has 284 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: maybe gone about him and his career has led to 285 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: him being more transparent because I remember talking having the 286 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: conversation with Tony is like, I wish more athletes would 287 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 5: just be like, yeah, this is what happened, this is 288 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 5: what I got fixed. Obviously, it's their prerogative what they 289 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 5: want to share and not share. But do you think 290 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: that the whole conversation around him kind of led to that. 291 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 292 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: I think Hunter is very aware of what he's putting 293 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: out there, especially now leaning into putting them more out there, 294 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 4: even going back to the statement that he put out 295 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: as soon as he got the final opinion from Mila 296 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: Trush that led to this where is this Transparency's said 297 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: from an injury perspective that Hunter that Honestly, I think 298 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: we were getting from a baseball side and a mentality 299 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: side too with Hunter before the injury, Like when he 300 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: was healthy, I also think he was just he's always 301 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 4: been authentic, that's not the right word, but just more 302 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: revealing and more Hunter as opposed to saying what you 303 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: feel like you're supposed to say, like every athlete feels 304 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: that way. I think that's just, more than anything, a 305 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: part of him growing and maturing and evolving in the 306 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: fact that he's like twenty six now instead of you know, 307 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: twenty two and just trying to stick in the big 308 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: leagues and figure out how this all works. I thought 309 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: the story of Hunter's season was going to be this 310 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: side of Hunter showcasing itself. 311 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: More because he was just more comfortable and more confident. 312 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: Now, of course it's played out with the injury fashion, 313 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 4: but I think it all ties together. 314 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: We've had a chance to talk with you all along 315 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: your trip to spring training and kind of judging what 316 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: you've heard back here in Cincinnati, is there a player 317 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: or players that we're not talking about enough based on 318 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: the spring training that they're having. 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: In your opinion, Bla Day's one. He looks good. 320 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: He finished second on my player poll survey in terms 321 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: of who's turning heads like. 322 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: I see it. 323 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: I see the tools of why he was a top 324 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: five pick and whatever draft. The problem is is I 325 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: was saying, like, the Reds can't really guarantee him playing time, 326 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: so it's tricky from a pitching side. I think Williamson, 327 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: you know, we get it now, but he's the one 328 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: who really forced this issue of this condensed six man rotation. 329 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: Like literally the story goes, Williamson just shoved against the 330 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: Rockies in spring training, and Tito goes to Derrick Johnson 331 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: and he goes, I got an idea, and he kind 332 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: of pitched the idea that the Reds ended up running with, 333 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: So he belongs in that conversation. I'd also like to 334 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: give a shout up for Williamson just the human story here. 335 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: This is a guy who really hasn't pitched since twenty 336 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: twenty three. He got to call his wife and his 337 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: kids the other day and he said he did this together, 338 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: and I think that's pretty cool. 339 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: And then I mean I mentioned his name. Er, let 340 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: me give you two more. 341 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: I think Connor Phillip is one of the most important 342 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: people in this bullpen. Like there's a world where like 343 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: he's a seventh or eight thenning guy like by June, 344 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: there's a world where he struggles with his command. But 345 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: but I'm leaning more towards positive with him, with how 346 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: he's looked recently. Been a bullpen that needs more upside. 347 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: He is that upside, and then he got cut the 348 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: other day. But let's just make sure we say the 349 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: name Hagen Danner. One of the best stories on this 350 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: red steam, A converted catcher, a guy who debuted with 351 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: the Blue Jays in twenty three, pulled his oblique seven 352 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: pitches into his big league debut and hasn't been back since. 353 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: And I think he'll be back. And that's a testament 354 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: to how he's looked. 355 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: On the side of the Bengals. And I know it's 356 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: different because you've been wall to wall red since you've 357 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: been out there, but you've been able to keep up 358 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: with what the Bengals have and haven't done through this 359 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: course of the offseason. Are you surprised at the lack 360 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: of movement that we've seen from this organization throughout this period. 361 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: Well, I've come down on the Bengals in free agency 362 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: is they're just operating like a rebuilding team. Now, that 363 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: doesn't square with the fact that pros in his prime, 364 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: Chases in his prime, Higgins is in his prime. This 365 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 4: is probably a top two, top one offense in all football. Like, 366 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: I couldn't be higher on this offense. But every decision 367 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: you can view through the lens of rebuilding, getting quote 368 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: unquote young veterans who definitely haven't played their best football 369 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: in Cook and Mafay, who are now just a part 370 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: of the young core. Not blocking Night, not blocking Carter, 371 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: not blocking Stewart, not bringing in like a twenty twenty 372 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: four Von Bell who brings some experience and probably makes 373 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: you better in the short term, but doesn't fit that 374 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: ideal path in the long term. Now, again, the problem 375 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: is that doesn't square with the urgency that needs to 376 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: be represented and reflected in this season. Like I even 377 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: look at Jonathan Allen as a rebuilding style move because 378 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: it's not even a half measure, it's a quarter measure 379 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: just to get an adult in the room at defensive tackle. 380 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: Like they could have done so much more if it was. 381 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: An all in year kind of like last year was 382 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: when they gave a thirty year old Tree Hendrickson a 383 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: raise to bring him back for one more year. They 384 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: have a completely reversed course, and that has me lower 385 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: on this defense in the short term than I would 386 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: have been have they been more proactive in the offseason. 387 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: A member of this defense has passed called it quitch yesterday, 388 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: helding him up Logan Wilson. Any I know there's a lot, 389 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: but any memories in covering this team stand out to 390 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: you about just how good Logan Wilson was not only 391 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: on the field, but great off the field as well. 392 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 4: There was one play that, like everyone in the building 393 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: always talked about. It was that Thursday night game against 394 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. Third and one, like the best runfit I've 395 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: ever seen. 396 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: He just saw it. You read it. 397 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: He made this tackle for loss that like saved that 398 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 4: game for the Bengals. I tweeted this yesterday. I think 399 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: about the twenty twenty two Bengals defense often actually talk 400 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 4: about it often, not often, but like several times too, 401 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: like recently with people in the building. 402 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Like who's the von Bell going to be? 403 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: And it doesn't have to be a safety, but the 404 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: guy who is bringing everyone together having done the homework 405 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 4: from an ex's and o's perspective, and on Tuesdays is 406 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: getting everyone ready to go for what they are prepared 407 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: for the game plan to be. And then also has 408 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: that versatility on the field. Who's gonna be the Mike Hilton, 409 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 4: the juice, who's gonna be the Logan Wolves and the 410 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: tackler and the turnover generator, Like I think of those 411 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 4: roles both intangibly in the locker room and on the field. 412 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: I felt like it fits so perfectly that that's just 413 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 4: the archetype. That is how in my head I try 414 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: to build defenses like that defense was un believable. And 415 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: I don't think that gets talked about enough. And I 416 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: think of that often as I think how should this look? 417 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: That's always something in. 418 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: The back of my head. 419 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: Charlie, you're the best man. We cannot thank you for 420 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: moving around your schedule to join us today. I know 421 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: it's a busy time. Opening Day a week from today. 422 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: I'll leave you with that. What I know Opening days 423 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: a special time for so many people here in Cincinnati. 424 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: What is it about Opening Day that makes it so 425 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: special for you? 426 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: So my biggest takeaway just from the Reds over the 427 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: last calendar year, really seeing their return last year, seeing 428 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: them in the playoffs, feeling the buzz in spring training, 429 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: because I really do feel it. People love the Reds 430 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: man like that hasn't changed. Like I see that, I 431 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: see that in kind of the communities I'm a part of, 432 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: both online and in person, Like I just feel that 433 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: in such a significant way. And you don't feel that 434 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: anymore than you do an opening day, and I think 435 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 4: people are genuinely excited about this team, and that's refreshing. 436 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: Charlie, you are the best. What are you gonna do 437 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 5: all day? Charlie, it's an off set. It's four thousand 438 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 5: degrees outside. You're gonna sit around and watch college basketball 439 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: like everybody? Yeah, yeah, I feel like last times were 440 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: happening because we don't have any on last time. 441 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 3: I asked Austin. He said, Ohio State was down four 442 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: and I looking there, down fifteen at the half. 443 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 5: Are they actually yes? Oh no? 444 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: Not great for Bruce Thornton's NCAA tournament life. 445 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 5: Charlie. 446 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: What's the easiest way that folks can follow along everything 447 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: you got going on with with your coverage of Reds, 448 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: Bangles and so much more. 449 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: We got Charlie's chalkboard on Substacking on Fox nineteen. We 450 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 4: got big things coming up with our stacks, well, the 451 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: Reds podcast they do with Brian Keyes and Sly. It's 452 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: it's a fun time of year. I'm excited to be 453 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 4: going with baseball season. 454 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: Can't wait to see you soon, Charlie. Miss you out there. 455 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: Have a great one that is Charlie Goldsmith always always 456 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: gracious with his time and uh man, that was a 457 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: that was interesting that I hadn't thought of that Austin 458 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: when he described the Bengals defense as a defense on 459 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: the outside, feels like it's rebuilding because you don't think that. Yeah, 460 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: when you think about how good the offense is and 461 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow being in his prime, you don't have time 462 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: for a rebuild. But the moves they've made. 463 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: I'd like to rebuild the linebackers. 464 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: Got it feels like that. Logan, Hello, yeah, Actually, Logan, 465 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: are you sure come back one more chance? We'll take 466 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: ourselves a break. 467 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: What I think is crazy is both Logan Wilson and 468 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 5: Sam Hubbard are retired. Logan Wilson was the one who 469 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 5: worse the fumble on the Hubbard yard dash. Wow, the 470 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: two key pieces in maybe the most iconic play in 471 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: the history of the franchise, Take me back in that 472 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two defense that Charlie was referring to, take 473 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 5: me back have left the National Football League. 474 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: We'll leave now for a few minutes. We'll come back 475 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: with your talkbacks on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 476 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Alexath ingles like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 477 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks. 478 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 6: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin and tone, 479 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 6: please keep it clean and. 480 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: Don't be mean. 481 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: And a sprinkle, sprinkle. 482 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: Drip drips. 483 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks. 484 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 6: It's our favorite parter sinc Three sixty, So Austin, buddy, 485 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 6: play those talkbacks on your screen and please try not 486 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 6: to sabotage. 487 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: It feels like someone sabotage. And the TV's in here today, 488 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: so hopefully our talkbacks are working like normal. It's since 489 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: he three p sixty the Thursday edition on ESPN fifteen 490 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 491 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, I'm I'm rooting for 492 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 5: the best here. Let's see what happens. 493 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 7: Happy Thursday, everybody in honor Smoke Justice. We are just 494 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 7: now seven smoky Burgess days away. 495 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: From the rest opening day. 496 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 7: And if you need somebody more modern, we can go 497 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 7: to Mariano Duncan. Fellas, I've been doing some serious studying 498 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 7: and what have I been studying? 499 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 8: That menu has Smoked Justice wick to see. 500 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: You all there? Come on, fella talkbackers. Who all's coming out? Whoday? 501 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: Go reg there we go. Thank you, Kevin. 502 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: Good start for us. From from Kevin, It's. 503 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 9: God Happy March, Madness, talk back Nation, Way to go Miami, 504 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 9: Way to pull off the upset, Way to represent Cincinnati, 505 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 9: Tony Austin, I was wondering, do you wish you guys 506 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 9: got to do a remote session today? 507 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: Yes, be with mo mo are just out out with people. 508 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: That would be nice. I'd love it. 509 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 10: Hey, you guys Mercy and the Groove. I hate being 510 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 10: one of these guys. But Mike from La, how many 511 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 10: teams do you root for? I mean, if you go 512 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 10: from Red's Dodgers, no matter what happens, you're happy. 513 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: All year long. 514 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 10: You've done nothing about talk about Arkansas and Kentucky made 515 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 10: a mistake letting them leave, Cali Parry this, Cali Perry that, 516 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 10: and then you say Hawaii's one of your big upset picks. 517 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: Like, what's going on? Good question? 518 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: Let me tell you something about Mike. Mike listens to 519 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 5: sports talk radio all day every day, so he hears 520 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: various opinions about various teams in various parts of the country, 521 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 5: whether it's here or elsewhere, and so he feels as 522 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: if he has an informed opinion and he's not afraid 523 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 5: to share it or is I respect it? 524 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 11: Whoats? 525 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, sorry, guys, I'm so excited. I'm bill pumped up. 526 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 12: I don't know that I slept much. Pepy Patty here anyway, 527 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 12: I have to listen to the show on podcast today, 528 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 12: so getting this on in early. But I'm just so happy. 529 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 12: I'm happy for my dad, for my mom, for my 530 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 12: brother who is watching, watched last night with his fight 531 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 12: out brothers, for Miami. They're on their annual golf trip, 532 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 12: and you know he lost his son four years ago. 533 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 12: I'm just so happy for all of them, for all 534 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 12: the fans. 535 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: Will nice. That was awesome last night. You mentioned that 536 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 3: the crowd was ridiculous at. 537 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 13: Dayton Hey Tony and USUS Jeff an election. With information 538 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 13: on how to destroy your busted bracket as it will 539 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 13: inevitably will get busted over the next couple of days. 540 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 13: First thing you want to do is set fire to 541 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 13: it with a match or some kind of flame, and 542 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 13: then follow Smokey's rules, drown with a bucket of water, 543 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 13: stir with a shovel. If it's still hot, do it again. 544 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 13: Remember only you can prevent. 545 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 6: But okay, well done, well said, Hello, this is former 546 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 6: President Ronald Reagan with today's fun fact. 547 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 14: Did you know that the Seattle Seahawks are the only 548 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 14: current NFL team to have never played a home game 549 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 14: on natural grass? 550 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: It's truely. 551 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 6: Oh and did you also know that Slick Willie is 552 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 6: the only president to win two elections while on natural grass? 553 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: Himself? Well done, well done? 554 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 5: Oh that is so beautifully done. 555 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 15: Hey, fellows up you Friday Eve. 556 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: It's DJ Frump. 557 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 15: No, we should have known when God threw a fireball 558 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 15: in the state of Ohio the other day that that's 559 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 15: exactly how Miama, Ohio is going to shoot. 560 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 561 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 15: I really enjoyed seeing coach Stale's wife An s Mus 562 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 15: coach's wife on a side by side. Those guys are 563 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 15: both winning on and off the court. How about Elmer 564 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 15: throwing up to John Cena you can't see me in 565 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 15: the post game? And yesterday got life insurance and my 566 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 15: taxes done, stress free and locked in ready for the tournament. 567 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: Have a great day. 568 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 5: That's a good day. There, Wow, that's a good day. 569 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 5: Talk about clearing the plate, my goodness. 570 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 16: So if Singer doesn't pitch for ten days or so, 571 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 16: on the ninth day is the medical staff going to 572 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 16: tell us he's out until July. 573 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: It's kind of what I'm expecting. You know, you've we've 574 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: been trained to expect the worst and take a left 575 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 5: turn at the last second. 576 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 17: Yep, what if Brady Singer's good this year? 577 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 15: We call him Brady Slinger. 578 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: Okay, I can do that. Maybe he could work with 579 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Slingers. 580 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 3: I can do that. 581 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 5: Him and Mo. Maybe do a couple commercials together. Sounds 582 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: fun to. 583 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 17: Me, gentlemen, to CJ on the East Ding, going back 584 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 17: to yesterday's talkbacks, get a bid day, invest in a 585 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 17: mid day, and you'll never look back. You know, I 586 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 17: say the same thing every year. No mock drafts, No 587 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 17: mock drafts this year, and then I just scroll to 588 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 17: find everyone's mock draft, your uncle Joe's mock draft, and I, 589 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 17: like your guys read a couple of days ago. What 590 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 17: if all the defensive studs are gone at number ten? Listen, 591 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 17: it's going to be a cornerback there in the second round. Okay, 592 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 17: I know we don't have a history. 593 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: Oh, you only get thirty seconds. 594 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 18: Paul, Yeah, guys, how you doing? 595 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: Hey? 596 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 18: Yesterday, Talkbacker complaining about the Beatles commercial there on iHeartRadio, 597 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 18: and he was complaining about how they got banned on 598 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 18: the run and that wasn't a Beatles song. Well, if 599 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 18: you listen to the whole annoying commercial, they do plainly 600 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 18: state that they play the solo hits. Also, I just 601 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 18: want to clarify that. Uh, he's right, it is annoying. 602 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 18: You guys have a good one. 603 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: Okay, this is as a This is a good place 604 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: for clarification. 605 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, Bruce Pearl, shut the blank up. Oh, Dravi is 606 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 11: still a real nice coaching job. I'll tell you that 607 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 11: team never gets nervous. They're mentally strong. I like their 608 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 11: frustraments from the Coata East like that. I got Houston 609 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 11: being San John's in Arizona. Michigan be in Houston. 610 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Michigan over Houston, all right, I respect that. That's 611 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: a ball knower O. 612 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 19: Man if Man and Leroy down here in Fountay Roy. Oh, 613 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 19: what a great day to watch ball. And I've also 614 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 19: been watching Eric Hall and James Rapayne. 615 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: Go at it on Twitter. 616 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 19: Oh what a good nipsen going on there. 617 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: That's good. Enter Tayler right there, pull that up, grab 618 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: a chair, James and Eric. I didn't see this. 619 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 5: I didn't see this either, Tarreen, do you know anything 620 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 5: about this? 621 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Wow? Okay, that's a thing. 622 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 13: Hey, did you hear the Bears are changing their name 623 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 13: to the Beans since they're moving to Hammon, they'll be 624 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 13: called the ham and Beans. 625 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 5: Ah, all right, I like it. 626 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I like it. 627 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: Okay. If you don't know, now you know. 628 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: Rep in the city out here in Sonny Man is 629 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: getting crazy hot and zoning to what up? 630 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: Body man? 631 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: You live by three, you die by three? Miami lived 632 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: by the three last night. Excellent atmosphere. You couldn't ask 633 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: for nothing better. This Beetles came down, got a distraction 634 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: on the free throw that was classic right there. I 635 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: think they can be Tennessee man, real talk. I got 636 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: them advance in another round, Brady, throw a little shade 637 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: at Joe Burrow. Time to wake up to sleeping tiger 638 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: man front office. Get this right with the Bengals. I 639 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: see Tyson Anderson gone, man, get this right. 640 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: Holes to fill all over the place. 641 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean. We were talking to Charlie off the 642 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 5: air before we came on, and I asked him about 643 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 5: the weather and he said, it's bad. I mean that 644 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 5: it ain't good. It's not good at all. All right, 645 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 5: that's our last one. 646 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: All right. 647 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 5: Ohio State can't make a shot right now, that's what's happening. 648 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 5: It's forty one to twenty eight. TCU leading the Buckeyes 649 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 5: mak it forty one to thirty after a ferocious jam, 650 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 5: but eleven feels like a thousand because Ohio State can't 651 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 5: shoot the ball very well. I'm just intrigued in in 652 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 5: what James said to get Eric all. We got one 653 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: more just came back. 654 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Ok. 655 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 16: Final point of clarification. Band on the Run is a 656 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 16: song by the band Paul McCartney and Wings. It is 657 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 16: not a solo album from Paul McCartney. 658 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 5: Okay, we go. We got some music lovers I didn't 659 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 5: know about. 660 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: So this is so, here's what happened now Now I'm 661 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: following along with what James said. He said, I'm an 662 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: Eric All believer, but banking on him being the same 663 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: guy right away and staying healthy is foolish. Agreed. Doesn't 664 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: mean you can't root for him or believe that it 665 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: will happen, but the organization can't bank on it. Yes, 666 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: he's right, which Eric Hall responded back, don't worry, I'll 667 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: show you we'll see how foolish it is. 668 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: Okay, that's for really respect himself. 669 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: James calling it like he sees it. 670 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 5: It's what I expect the competitor to say. I mean, 671 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 5: what is looking at it from Eric Hall's point of view. 672 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 5: James Rapene is looking at it from an organizational point 673 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 5: of you. And I guarantee that the same point that 674 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 5: James made was made, you know, inside the offices of 675 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 5: pay Court Stadium. 676 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you're not doing your est it should be. Yeah, 677 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: you have to protect that position at all costs. Let's 678 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: take a break, a couple segments to go. When we 679 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 3: get back, Keegan Nickoson at two o'clock will join us 680 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: as well. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 681 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 8: Miss an episode of since E three sixty here every 682 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 8: show at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. 683 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's good to have you along. ESPN fifteen 684 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. A couple updates for you. Buck 685 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: guys have put themselves back in the game here, forty 686 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 3: three to thirty six, just under fourteen minutes remaining in 687 00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: that one. 688 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 5: You need him to shoot like the RedHawks. 689 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: Nebraska leads Troy forty one to twenty five at the half, 690 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: and the South Florida Bulls and Louisville Cardinals early in 691 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: that one the fifteen minute mark, seven to seven. So 692 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: three games underway to start off your March madness. Some 693 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: other college basketball news. Jovanne Melissavich. 694 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 5: What'd you call me? 695 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: Jovonne Melissavich. Yeah, the forward for the Xavier Musketeers averaged 696 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 3: twelve point four points three point nine rebounds last year. 697 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: He's coming back to Xavier, he says via his social media. 698 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: So nice get for Richard Patino to bring back a 699 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: piece of this year's roster. Other college news, how about 700 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: Clinton coats Austin fifteen home runs? Now, you're outright college 701 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: baseball leader in home runs. 702 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 5: You know his middle name? What Winter? It was either 703 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: gonna say Winter or multiple I like it? 704 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: I like it? 705 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 5: Or what about Bass no base coachs I like Winter? 706 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 5: What about Sammy coach? You remember him? 707 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: Sammy can work? Yeah, Samy can work. Now I'll go 708 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: with that one. Okay. Do you see what Tom Brady 709 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: said about Joe Burrow? 710 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 5: What did he say? I've heard multiple things about Joe 711 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 5: Burrow and Tom Brady. 712 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: So they were doing the uh the flag football draft. 713 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's this big fanatics, yeah fan fest flag football 714 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 5: thing happening in La yep. 715 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: And someone said someone used the term wildcat, and Tom 716 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: Brady said that's what they called Joe the other night 717 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: at all those Oscars parties. Oh, and then said, at 718 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 3: least he's here. Didn't have any fashion events to go 719 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: to today, question mark. 720 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: So Tom really drumming it up? Yeah, Tom really drumming 721 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 5: it up now. 722 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 3: I think Tom's doing this in multiple places right now, 723 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: because right now Tom has a back and forth going 724 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: on with the WWE. Have you seen any of this 725 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 3: logan Paul, who's a WW superstar, is one he wants. 726 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: He's calling out Tom Brady for not being an athlete. 727 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: Brady's talking about how wrestling is fake. These two have 728 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 3: been going back and forth. It feels like Tom Brady's 729 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: gonna have some type of appearance at WrestleMania coming up. 730 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: Feels like this is being drummed up by the WW. 731 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: Take with it what you want, okay, is your screw. 732 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: We have this screen going back and forth today. 733 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 5: I heard he also said something about Alex Earl, really, 734 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 5: because you know, Tom was dancing with Alex Earl Hardy 735 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 5: not that long ago, and apparently Joe Burrow was with 736 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 5: Alex Earl as hell. Oh, do you think maybe there's okay, 737 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 5: a little bit of druma jealousy that tea. Maybe that 738 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 5: is a real thing. I'm just kidding. Maybe this isn't 739 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 5: a bit I think Tommy is is. I think this 740 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 5: is a good thing for Joe Burrow to be, like, yeah, 741 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 5: you know what, tom can get out there in front 742 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 5: of people and be a bit of a cornball, because 743 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 5: Joe needs to be better at that. I think if 744 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 5: there's one thing that Joe Burrow needs to be better at, 745 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 5: it is the way he handles himself and his presence 746 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 5: in the community. Okay, he does the foundation does a 747 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 5: lot of good stuff, but it's primarily his parents. He's 748 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 5: not out and about very much. And I understand it's 749 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: not necessarily part of his personality and everybody is different, 750 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 5: but I do think it's good for Joe to go 751 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 5: out and go to these types of events and see 752 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 5: Tom Brady doing it, and see Jalen Hurts doing it 753 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 5: and all these other guys, and I hope that that 754 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 5: unlocks a little bit of something for Joe Burrow. 755 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: I'm with you. Some other sports news right now. Atlanta 756 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: Brave outfielder Jerikson Profar. 757 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, he got suspended again. 758 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, he appealed it and the appealed to not hold 759 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 3: up for him, So he will miss all of this 760 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: upcoming twenty twenty sixth season one hundred and sixty two 761 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: game ped suspension for Jerrikson Profar. Other news. If you're 762 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: a follower of the NBA, I'm disappointing news for Detroit 763 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: Piston star Kade Cuttingham got diagnosed with the collapsed and 764 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 3: the lung yesterday and is expected to miss an extended 765 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: period of time for the Eastern Conference leading Detroit Pistons. 766 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 5: There's been multiple collapse lungs I feel like recently. 767 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm not isn't that. 768 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 5: The old Uh? What was that quarterback? It happened here 769 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: in Cincinnati's lung collapsed. Rod Taylor with Rogers. 770 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I'm not as in depth following the NBA 771 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 3: as I have been in years past. They're nearing the 772 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 3: stretch run, correct, What does that mean? Like the regular 773 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: season is does it come to a close soon? 774 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the beginning of May. Okay, so at the end 775 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 5: of the regular season. Gotcha and your bulls on the outside. 776 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: The Bulls have tanked. Okay, yeah, twenty eight and forty one. 777 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 5: Dude, they were so awesome for the first eight games 778 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 5: of the year. I was like, Okay, we're back. Matthhouse 779 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 5: on Madison, move over, Michael Jordan. We've got Matas Bozalis. 780 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 5: Now I watch Io Desumu kick ass every night for 781 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 5: another team. 782 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 3: Tough. 783 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 5: It's frustrating, man, it's frustrating. 784 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 3: Keegan Nickoson, we'll be here at two o'clock and we 785 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 3: get back in a little bit more on the Reds. 786 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 5: Speaking of the NBA and speaking of the shirt that 787 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 5: you're wearing today, which is a green hoodie. Yeah, it 788 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 5: reminds me of a Boston Celtics city. 789 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: I heard. 790 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 5: Moe and Skinny and all them talking earlier about Jared Calhoun. 791 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 5: Wasn't was he like? Is he like best friends with 792 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 5: Joe Mazzus very call Joe Mizzoula, the head coach of 793 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 5: the Celtics. He was the best man in his wedding. 794 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Missoula obviously played under Huggins at West Virginia, right, 795 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 3: and Calhoun and Huggins are obviously very closer. 796 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 5: I think I think that's pretty cool. I think that 797 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 5: could be uh, you know by the out the handed 798 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 5: Christian Fellowship. Literally, yeah, Joe Miszool. 799 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 3: Speaking of the Celtics, the thought that Jason Tatum is 800 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 3: now back playing thirty plus minutes a game after tearing 801 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 3: his achilles in the playoffs last year is crazy. Modern medicine, 802 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: Modern medicine. 803 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 5: We saw what Joe Burrow did on Thanksgiving. 804 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 3: Hmm. We'll update John what's going on in the NCAA tournament. 805 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 5: He's stunk. 806 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 3: The next week we'll talk about the Cincinnati Reds as well. 807 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 3: Seven days till opening day leading up to Keeg. Nickoson 808 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: to join us at two o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, 809 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports. 810 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 14: Station WCKY, Cincinnati, and iHeartRadio station Garan Teed Human ESPN 811 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 14: fifteen thirty, I heard radio. 812 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 20: Over the years, you've brought them into your home. You 813 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 20: were prescribed opioids after the C section, when dad injured 814 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 20: us back, when your basketball star tore his acl Opioids 815 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 20: helped with the pain, and you held on to them 816 00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 20: just in case. 817 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 8: But did you know holding on. 818 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 20: To unused opioids puts your family at risk. Opioids are 819 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 20: powerful pain reducing prescription medicines, but most people who are 820 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 20: prescribed opioids don't finish their prescriptions, so millions of unused 821 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 20: opioids are sitting at homes across the country, and tragically, 822 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 20: more than one hundred Americans die every day from overdoses 823 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 20: involving opioids. What can you do to protect your family? 824 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 20: Remove the risk of unused opioids from your home, pills 825 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 20: patches or syrups and drawers, purses and cabinets anywhere they 826 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 20: might be hiding. To find out how to dispose of 827 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 20: them properly, visit www dot FDA dot gov slash Drug Disposal. 828 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 5: Moeger welcome back tonight. I'm going to need a strong one. 829 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 5: Watch in the Buckeyes. Not good, they're fighting, Okay. This 830 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 5: is seven point deficit with forty to go. 831 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 3: Okay, now, I see it as a five point deficit here, 832 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,959 Speaker 3: all right, wonderful, you're probably ahead of me. I see 833 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 3: TCU forty nine, forty four. I see Nebraska as a 834 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 3: forty one to twenty five lead. In Louisville. Who is 835 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: the most bet upon favorite to lose in the first round. 836 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 3: It's seventeen to nine lead over South Florida. In early action, 837 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 3: and things just getting underway in the West region. High 838 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 3: point in early three to two lead over the Wisconsin Badgers. 839 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: How about this TCU now only leads by two Austin. 840 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 5: All right, well, don't ruin it for. 841 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 3: Me, buck, guys climbing, don't ruin it fall all the 842 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 3: way back. 843 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 5: You gotta fight, you know, yep, you know, it's all 844 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 5: over the place in there. In Columbus, Ryan Dy always 845 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 5: talks about fight, fight, you know, fight the people, the tradition, 846 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 5: the excellence. You know what you see They say, you 847 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 5: get hacked in the act. 848 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 3: They say, fight to the finish, never give in. 849 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 5: What is that part of like the fights on Yes, okay. 850 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: You do your best, boys, we'll do the rest onward 851 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 3: to victory. 852 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 5: Okay, that makes sense to me. 853 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 3: Just keep fighting and scratching and clawing, and good things 854 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: are going to happen. Seven days away from Red's opening day, Austin, Yes, 855 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 3: we've done this all along the way. Red's to wear 856 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 3: number seven. Now, this was a little bit of a 857 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: thing here in the off season because before he left 858 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 3: the EU Henio Suarez war number seven from twenty fifteen 859 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 3: to twenty twenty one. Yeah, and then of course Donovan 860 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 3: sion was that one year of Solano and then Spencer 861 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: Steers had it since then, and Suarez said, now Spencer, 862 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: you keep it. 863 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 5: Spencer longballs, you keep it. But none of them they 864 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 5: all pale in comparison to Paul Yanni. 865 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Paul Yannish. 866 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 5: Juan Castro makes another appearance on this list? What about 867 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 5: nine and number seven? What about the great Kevin Mitchell? 868 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Paul Householder. Did Kevin Mitchell wants 869 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 5: catch a fly ball? 870 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: Bear handed? Probably Mariano Duncan. 871 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 5: If Paul Householder was around today, would we call him 872 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 5: the realtor? 873 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 874 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely? What about Jimmy Coker? What about Ernie Lombardi? Smokey 875 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 5: Burgess was mentioned earlier? 876 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: Ernie Lombardi. 877 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 5: This is like the fifth appearance for Ernie Lombardi. He 878 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 5: had more numbers than. 879 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 3: The I R S. Please, now, obviously we're off tomorrow, 880 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 3: that'll be six days to opening day, and how can 881 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: you talk about number six with the Cincinnati Reds without 882 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 3: the great Ryan Friel. Of course that parlayed to Drew 883 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: Stebbins to rest his soul freel Stubbs Hamilton. That was 884 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 3: a nice little run it was for the number for 885 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 3: the number six, Jonathan India. You can't forget Garrett Hampson's 886 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 3: here last year as number six. Woody Woodward, the wood Buddy. 887 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 5: The Woodpecker. That's a right bodas my dad loved bo d. 888 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 3: Edwin Diaz Alexis Okay. 889 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 5: I see this guy Cooper on here. I used to 890 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 5: I've always called people named Cooper. I'd always call him 891 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 5: Chicken Chicken Cooper. What about Bill Baker? 892 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: All right? 893 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 5: Back in nineteen forty one a dozen, I know a 894 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 5: guy named Bill Baker, a Baker's Dozen. He wore number six. 895 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 5: Number five belongs to a guy named Johnny Bench. 896 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: Number five is pretty easy to talk about anything, and 897 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: I think number four is pretty easy as well. On 898 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 3: Sunday Santiago espinalv. 899 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 5: No, it would be da Dude, BP Brandon, the Reds 900 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. Do not disrespect show Go Akayama man, 901 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 5: that poor guy. I mean, what do you think. 902 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 3: You're talking about? Thinking things are gonna be different? 903 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 5: When you think he he's back in Japan now, and 904 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 5: when people ask him and his family about Cincinnati, what 905 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 5: do you think he says, Oh, we got there and 906 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 5: a tree fell on my wife. Yeah, like that is 907 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 5: one of the most insane stories ever. 908 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 3: Ye, he ended up. 909 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 5: Playing in Louisville for a little while the same Did 910 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 5: he ever get back to the big leagues? For not 911 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 5: even another cup of coffee? Do you know who else? 912 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 5: I was a believer in show Go? You know who else? 913 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 5: Were the number four? Wake me up before you show go? 914 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 3: Ernie Lombardi? 915 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? 916 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 3: Yep? 917 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 5: God Lee? Did he just pick a jersey out of 918 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 5: the pile every day? 919 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 3: I think so? 920 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 5: Ernie Lombardi, for that reason alone, he should be a 921 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 5: Hall of Famer, without a doubt, without a dent on 922 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 5: the boat, love al love al, Oh. 923 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: Could you not? 924 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 17: Well? 925 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 3: We'll take a break our three mercifully Next ESPN fifteen 926 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. It starts with our guy, Keegan 927 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 3: Nicholson from Bearcat Journal dot com on this the home 928 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 3: of the Bengals. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 929 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: You're one stop