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Speaker 1: So Tena Fitzgerald said, sale noon to three today, Brett.

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Speaker 1: Pete Bursuch London calling for him. He's in London. He'll

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Speaker 1: today two fifteen, Brett, I know, always your favorite game

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Speaker 1: As for the game on Sunday, Vikings versus Browns, I

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Speaker 2: So it really to me the key this is going.

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Speaker 3: To be quite the The ball talker doesn't really promote

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Speaker 3: You've got a block for him too, the fans learned.

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Speaker 2: In that password, you're blaming the coach.

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Speaker 3: I'm blaming him and the special teams coordinator because they

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Speaker 1: Your most important player was he was great.

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Speaker 3: It was blocking field goals and blocking kick returns.

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Speaker 3: I don't well, now you're starting to see the special

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Speaker 3: So that's what happened to Green Bay where they kick

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Speaker 2: But what do I know? I'm not panicking quite yet.

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Speaker 1: talk with Pete Burstich, analysts for the Vikings Rada Network.

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Speaker 1: and Fitzgerald. Ain't no fun unless you have Pete Burstich,

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Speaker 2: Peter, how you doing over there?

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Speaker 4: I am good. It's rainy today, though, Okay, I'm jealous

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Speaker 2: Gonna hit We're gonna hit ninety the day over here.

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Speaker 1: What has been the favorite thing you've done while you've

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Speaker 1: Any big Friday night plans, no, no, nothing.

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Speaker 1: From the way the offensive structured, how you defend them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's advance this further, not even talking specifically about

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. But I'm curious, like when a quarterback change

439
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Speaker 1: is made in terms of when you were a player

440
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Speaker 1: or even when you're a coach, maybe you have broadcasting

441
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Speaker 1: experience as well. You know, part of me goes, well,

442
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Speaker 1: this guy's a third round rookie quarterback that wasn't super

443
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Speaker 1: highly thought of before the draft, and the offense it's

444
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Speaker 1: probably going to struggle with him. But a part of

445
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Speaker 1: me also goes, do other players get sparked a little

446
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Speaker 1: bit this by a change?

447
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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: You saw Jackson Dark come in for the Giants last

449
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Speaker 1: week and all of a sudden that defense was was

450
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Speaker 1: stopping Justin Herbert and the Chargers. Right like your past experience,

451
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Speaker 1: do Ajot does the team got to spark sometimes from

452
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Speaker 1: the from the from a quarterback change.

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Speaker 4: I think sometimes especially if it happens in game and

454
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Speaker 4: the guy goes out there and plays hard. That can

455
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Speaker 4: you know? In this case, I mean I I was

456
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Speaker 4: curious about that as well. I mean, you're on the road,

457
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Speaker 4: meaning you're you're in a different country, and you're bringing

458
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Speaker 4: in a third round rookie to play against Brian Flores

459
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Speaker 4: as he's had very good a lot of success against

460
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Speaker 4: young quarterbacks. It doesn't make much sense. But then you

461
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Speaker 4: take a look at Joe Flacco's numbers, you know, two

462
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Speaker 4: touchdowns six interceptions, a passer rating in the sixties. You know,

463
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Speaker 4: they had they had to make a change, and I

464
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Speaker 4: think the big, the big part of that is just

465
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Speaker 4: getting the ball to Jerry Judy. I mean, you know,

466
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Speaker 4: Judy has been around since twenty twenty four, around a

467
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Speaker 4: top ten wide receiver, and then you look at his

468
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Speaker 4: numbers this year and he's received very little, if any attention.

469
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Speaker 4: You know, they're kind of relegated to anonym chick sweeps

470
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Speaker 4: and some of those other things. So I do think

471
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Speaker 4: if you know, if this is going to work for

472
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Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel, he's gonna have to find a way to

473
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Speaker 4: get the ball to Jerry Judy early and often. And

474
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Speaker 4: you know that might that might spark some things up front.

475
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Speaker 4: But I mean this, this this team, the defense is

476
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Speaker 4: remarkably dominant. I mean given up two hundred and twenty

477
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Speaker 4: five yards or two hundred and twenty two yards a game.

478
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's the difference. You know, Arizona's at like

479
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Speaker 4: two forty something, but the next team is at two

480
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Speaker 4: seventy five. I mean that's a fifty yard difference per game.

481
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Speaker 4: That you know what I mean, They've been They've been

482
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Speaker 4: unbelievably dominant. Have they given up a lot of points. Yes,

483
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Speaker 4: they've been putting a lot of bad positions with turnovers

484
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Speaker 4: and then kick returns and things like that. So don't

485
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Speaker 4: don't fall sure, don't fall asleep on this defense that

486
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Speaker 4: Cleveland has. I mean, they're they're outstanding. They're very, very

487
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Speaker 4: very good. So that is going to help a young quarterback.

488
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Speaker 4: But also is going to help a young quarterback is

489
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Speaker 4: a running games and you know Quinn Shawn Judkins has

490
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Speaker 4: run the ball pretty well, But they depend on a

491
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Speaker 4: lot of rookies. You know, Harold Fannins a rookie tight end, Judkins,

492
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Speaker 4: you know, Judkins is a rookie running back. I mean,

493
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Speaker 4: they've got a lot of rookies out there. So that's

494
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Speaker 4: that's just you know, screens inconsistency. Then I have a

495
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Speaker 4: rookie quarterback or rookie tailback and a rookie fullback slash

496
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Speaker 4: tight end. Who is the number one receiver from a

497
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Speaker 4: reception basis on the teams? Yeah, I don't know, But

498
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Speaker 4: then again, slack it has been that bad, so I

499
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Speaker 4: think that's certainly option. And the problem is is they

500
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Speaker 4: could be horrific offensively and they're still going to be

501
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Speaker 4: in the game with that defense.

502
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Speaker 1: Well, can you tell me about Dylan Gabriel, then what

503
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Speaker 1: are Strengthswater has weaknesses, not a whole lot.

504
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Speaker 4: I mean, I I don't, you know, I haven't I've

505
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Speaker 4: never really s see him play. I know he has

506
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Speaker 4: I think as many, if not more he broke. He

507
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Speaker 4: has more touchdowns at the FCS level than any other

508
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: quarterback quick passing game coming out of Oregon. So if

509
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Speaker 4: you know, if they do that, I don't think they're

510
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Speaker 4: going to let him do that though. I don't think

511
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Speaker 4: they're going to spread out the offense and let him

512
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Speaker 4: just throw, make sure throws all around. I think that

513
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Speaker 4: they're going to run the football and then play acts

514
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Speaker 4: and pass and then let him open his arm up

515
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Speaker 4: a little bit that way to you know, to Jerry

516
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Speaker 4: Judy and to you know, to the rest of the

517
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Speaker 4: right you know, Jamari Thrash and Tillman and the rest

518
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Speaker 4: of that wide receiver court. So I don't I just

519
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Speaker 4: think that they're going to try to up the yards

520
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Speaker 4: per attempt in that regard. I don't necessarily think they're

521
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Speaker 4: going to have him slinging it all over the yard

522
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Speaker 4: on a short thrower basis.

523
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Speaker 1: All right, obviously on the offensive side of the ball.

524
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing most of the concern is going to go

525
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Here you have three stars out

526
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Speaker 1: that would be Brian O'Neill, Ryan Kelly, and Donovan Jackson.

527
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Speaker 1: And then you even have a backup center who's out

528
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Speaker 1: in Michael Jurgens.

529
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Speaker 2: Is this is this code read for you in.

530
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Speaker 1: Terms of your level of concern about our offensive line

531
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Speaker 1: in this game, given who they're going up against.

532
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Speaker 4: Yah, sixty percent of the offensive line is either in

533
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Speaker 4: a different spot or on starters. So yeah, it's a

534
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: huge concern. That's that means that we're going to have

535
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Speaker 4: the tight ends are going to be highly involved. C. J.

536
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 4: Hamm will probably be highly involved in past defense. But

537
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 4: the good news is is just our wide receiver corps.

538
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: How good Addison's looked since he's been back. You know.

539
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Speaker 4: The problem with the challenge there is that those are

540
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Speaker 4: usually longer down the field, longer developing type routes, and

541
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Speaker 4: as you know, my keeping Miles Garrett off quarterback for

542
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: a while, even if you have two guys on them,

543
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Speaker 4: it's going to be tough. You know, Here's here's the deal, Brandon,

544
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Speaker 4: you got to just put together, decent drives, a quick

545
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: shooting yourself in the foot. You got to quit getting

546
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: inside the twenty, being at first and ten and you know,

547
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: getting a good run first down and then getting the

548
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 4: penalty and then getting the sack and then having to

549
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Speaker 4: kick a field goal. Right, you just have to get

550
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: out of that that that whatever that is that we're

551
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 4: stuck in. And instead of ending drives of field goals,

552
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: you got to end a few of them with touchdowns,

553
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: and that you know that can happen. So the self

554
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: inflicted penalties have to go the procedural ones. That has

555
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 4: to get a lot better, especially against a defense that's

556
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 4: as good as the one we're going to go against,

557
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: because if you help that defense out at all, you're

558
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 4: gonna you know, you're gonna come out come away from

559
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: the game with two hundred and twenty five yards of

560
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Speaker 4: total offense. And that may not get it done.

561
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Speaker 1: Let's stick with the offensive line. I want to talk

562
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Speaker 1: about Blake Brendel specifically. He's he's making the move to

563
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Speaker 1: center because the first two centers are out. Apparently it's

564
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Speaker 1: had no experience ever playing center in an actual game.

565
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Speaker 1: Obviously has practiced there, but how big of an adjustment.

566
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Speaker 1: Is that, like, out of all the positions on the offense,

567
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: like that would be the hardest one to switch to.

568
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Speaker 4: You know. Here's the thing though, is I'm trying to

569
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: remember his name right now. It's run right on the

570
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: top of my head. But the center for the Lions,

571
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: he just retired recently.

572
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Speaker 2: Yeah, rag Now.

573
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Speaker 4: Ragnow started out as a guard and it didn't go

574
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: very well. And then they moved in the center and

575
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 4: it took off. I mean some guys. For some guys

576
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: that the changes is just exactly what they needed. So

577
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: who knows it could it could be that case rag Now.

578
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: Definitely he went from being an average to okay guard

579
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Speaker 4: to being one of the best centers in the league. Uh,

580
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: you know, and and this could it could happen to

581
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Speaker 4: to Brandell. I mean, he's a big guy. Uh. He

582
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: played He played well beginning of last year at guard

583
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: in the first you know, four or five six games,

584
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: and he kind of fell off as a year went on.

585
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 4: But you know, he's played well before. He's you know,

586
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: he's had some good games and so I have you know,

587
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: some hope there that that they you know, they're not

588
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: putting them there out of necessity. They're putting them there

589
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: because they feel that that's where he where he can

590
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: maybe take off. And you know, we don't. We don't

591
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: know how Ryan Kelly Ryan Kelly situation is, and it

592
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: could be a long term thing. We don't know. He's

593
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: not an IR, so I don't it's not expected right now,

594
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: but you know, having a veteran there and putting you know,

595
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: so Donovan Jackson when he comes back and slide back

596
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: in the guard and Brian O'Neill and maybe, you know,

597
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: we'll see I mean, I don't know. That's that's the

598
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: only way I could read into it. But we'll find

599
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: out pretty quickly whether or not he can handle it.

600
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Speaker 4: And I talked about procedural penalties. Well, you've got a

601
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: brand new center guy who've never played there, so good

602
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: luck with that.

603
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Speaker 1: Is Miles Garrett the best pass rusher in football, and

604
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: you know what's what's the offensive game plan and how

605
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: you slow him down?

606
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Given given your issues in.

607
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Speaker 4: The Yeah, well, Miles Garrett is unique. He's he's he

608
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: reminds me a little bit or a lot of Reggie White.

609
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett is one of the strongest defensive linemen I

610
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: have seen. I mean, he's taken the offensive tackles and

611
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: he's throwing them around like rag dolls. He's freakishly strong,

612
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: and that's the part that that's the part that scares

613
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: you because even if the tackles block and I'm he

614
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 4: can march him right back into the lap of the

615
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: quarterback and that's a pressure for the quarterback. Yeah, he

616
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: gets chipped all the time. He's always getting double team

617
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 4: but he still manages to be productive for you know.

618
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: And then if there is a play where you leave

619
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Speaker 4: him alone one on one, he knows that he feels

620
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: it and if it's a deep throw, you better look out.

621
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Speaker 4: That ball better be coming on quickly if you don't

622
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: have two people on him. Uh So, Yeah, he's he

623
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: plays on the right hand side of the defense by

624
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: eighty seven percent of the time, so he'll be lining

625
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: up against Darrisaw quite a bit. So keep an eye

626
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: on that. If you see him playing less defensive ending

627
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: over Justin's school more than fifteen percent of the time,

628
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: then that's something that Cleveland is really taking into account.

629
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Speaker 4: They're you know, they're there, they're schematically game plan wise

630
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: and moving him over to the other side to get

631
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 4: to get to the backup offensive tackle. So that's something

632
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Speaker 4: I'll be watching closely in the booths and you know,

633
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: we'll see.

634
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Speaker 1: Historically it seems like Kevin O'Connell offenses quarterback holds the

635
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: ball a little bit longer because he likes to give

636
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: time for those intermediate routes to open up and a little

637
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: bit deeper roused open up.

638
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: Given the line issues.

639
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Speaker 1: Can can Kaos have the same offensive philosophy he always

640
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: does or is he need to change things up a

641
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: little bit in this game?

642
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean you have to. You have Every

643
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: offense has an identity, right, you got it, you got

644
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: dangerous doing something. You got to make defenses have to

645
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: account for something. And it's been our vertical passing game.

646
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 4: You know, you watch Cleveland on film and and they

647
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: don't pattern and read. They don't do a lot of

648
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 4: things where if the rush doesn't get there, Yeah, guys

649
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: running wide open down the field, they just they just

650
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: don't account for it. They count on the rush getting there.

651
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: So I know our offense is definitely deepened down, you know,

652
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: getting deep and getting down the field. You can't just

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Speaker 4: sacrifice your identities. But at the same time, you can't

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Speaker 4: ask guys to do things that they're incapable of doing.

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Speaker 4: So there's kind of a balance there. Right, you have

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Speaker 4: a young quarterback and McCarthy. For the first couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: the offense we ran with him was not the normal

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Speaker 4: offense that you know, we've seen the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: you know, we we haven't seen We've seen a much

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Speaker 4: much quicker passing game, quick throws, you know, those are

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Speaker 4: all those all benefit Carson Wentz. So there's there's been

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Speaker 4: some movement in play calling, a lot more, I think

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Speaker 4: than people think. But your bread and butter is still

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Speaker 4: your bread and butter, right, you still have to you know,

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Speaker 4: that's what you do. And you you know, you're not

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Speaker 4: out there with the guys that you had penciled in

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Speaker 4: and when the season started, So is that, you know,

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Speaker 4: you just throw the baby out with the bath water

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Speaker 4: as a coach, or do you just reinvent the wheel?

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Speaker 4: And so it's hard to restyle your entire offense three

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Speaker 4: weeks into a season, you see what I mean. So

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Speaker 4: you have to stick with a lot of what got

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Speaker 4: you know, what has been your bread and butter over

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Speaker 4: the past few years. And yeah, I mean what exacerbates

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Speaker 4: the problem too. Is when guys are falling out in

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Speaker 4: the second quarter, guys are falling out in the third quarter, right,

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Speaker 4: you don't have a full week to work with them,

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Speaker 4: and you're you're constantly changing things along the way. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's a nightmare. These injuries and the injuries that this

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Speaker 4: team's experienced offensively, you know, with the offensive line has

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Speaker 4: been an absolute nightmare in my opinion for any coach. Well,

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Speaker 4: you know, take take that. Take that for what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: We're talking with the Vikings analyst for the Vikings ready

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Speaker 1: to now where Pete burst.

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Speaker 2: He's out in London.

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Speaker 1: A couple more questions for Pete before we let him

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Speaker 1: party in London tonight. Andrew Van Ginkel out with a

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Speaker 1: neck injury. It's you know, the two games he's played,

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Speaker 1: Vikings are two and zero and have defended the run

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Speaker 1: quite well. The two games he's been out, they've lost

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Speaker 1: and have gotten gashed on the run by Atlanta and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: How important has been Ginkel to the run?

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Speaker 1: And then follow up question, how have you seen Dallas

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Speaker 1: Turner looking in his place?

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Speaker 4: I think Dallas played the best game I've seen him

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Speaker 4: play against Cincinnattie as far as how it went against Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. But what Pittsburgh did was they ran

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Speaker 4: out tackle quite a bit, so they weren't running necessarily

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Speaker 4: up in the A and B gaps or run and

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Speaker 4: for you know, more of the outside. They're bringing in Washington,

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Speaker 4: who was a six to seven, two and eighty some

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Speaker 4: pound tight end, like an extra offensive lineman, and they

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Speaker 4: were bringing in an extra offensive lineman, and they were

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Speaker 4: running in that off tackle spot where the outside linebacker lives.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Garnard does a massiful job of playing

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Speaker 4: the run. I think it's kind of the underappreciated part

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Speaker 4: of both he and Ben Ginkle's game is just how

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Speaker 4: well they play the outside like they do. And it's hard,

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Speaker 4: and I think Turner's getting better, but the entire defense

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Speaker 4: needs to improve in that regard. And you can't just

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Speaker 4: run away from Gernard all the time. There's stunts involved,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of other things involved. I think that

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Speaker 4: the defenses you have to do. But that's kind of

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Speaker 4: like what Kevin O'Connell was talking about when he said

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Speaker 4: we kind of played Pittsburgh's game. It meant he meant

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Speaker 4: that we just, you know, let them just run the ball.

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Speaker 4: They were never behind, right, they were They never felt

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Speaker 4: the need to have to press as an offense. They

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Speaker 4: could sit back and just keep handing the football off

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Speaker 4: and wearing our guys out. So you know, that's that's

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Speaker 4: a you know, that's a problem. Is it all on

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Speaker 4: Dallas Turner? No? Can he play the run better? Yes?

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Speaker 4: And he needs to They all they all need to.

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Speaker 2: Really last question for you before we let you go.

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Speaker 1: Harrison Smith has yet to start in his two games

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Speaker 1: since he's returned, just thirty nine defensive snaps twenty two

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Speaker 1: against Cincinnati's seventeen against Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, since he missed.

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Speaker 1: The first two games with a personal health matter, his

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Speaker 1: his playing time thus far. Is this just putting him

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Speaker 1: on a pitch count, like trying to work back as

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Speaker 1: conditioning or is there still something that we're concerned about here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I would assume that's what that is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what's what's ironic is it's it's the whole

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Speaker 4: thing is is absolutely turned on its head from a

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Speaker 4: year ago. Between our run defense and pass defense. Last year,

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Speaker 4: a pass defense was in the mid you know, mid twenties,

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Speaker 4: higher twenties, and our run defense was top five, and

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Speaker 4: then this year it's completely the other way, right. I

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Speaker 4: mean we haven't faced we haven't really faced a a

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Speaker 4: Mahomes type quarterback yet or Allen type quarterback yet that's

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Speaker 4: going to want to throw the football. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I have we been tested through the air. No, We're

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Speaker 4: going to see another rookie quarterback again this week, and

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Speaker 4: this team Cleveland is going to want to run the football.

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Speaker 4: My point is, who you have at safety in some

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Speaker 4: of those situations I don't think is necessarily going to

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Speaker 4: be as crucial as it would be if you are

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Speaker 4: playing like when we pay the Eagles in a week

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Speaker 4: or two. You know that's gonna be That's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a different, different animal right there altogether with Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 4: So my point is, I don't think there's a rush

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Speaker 4: to get him out there for sixty snaps or fifty snaps.

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Speaker 4: I think they're kind of easing them back into it

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Speaker 4: and letting, you know, THEO Jackson and the rest of

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Speaker 4: the crew kind of get some stats and get some experience.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Pete, appreciate it. Enjoying the rest of your time

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Speaker 1: in London. We'll listen to you Sunday morning.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Brandon. I always enjoyed being on the tennis Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the highlights of my life.

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Speaker 2: You're one of my favorite lifeboats.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate, appreciate you say it in the day, all right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Thanks p Pee Purseuch Analysts for the Vikings right

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Speaker 1: a network Vikings pregame at six point thirty Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: That game starts in London at eight thirty. Of course

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Speaker 1: you can hear that right here on the fan. Little

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Speaker 1: Be joins me next, and we're actually gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: little bad bunny.

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Speaker 2: Little Be next