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Speaker 1: They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to repeat seasons.

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Speaker 3: It's winning it again.

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Speaker 4: This year is not trying to win a championship, They're

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Speaker 4: trying to repeat.

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Speaker 1: It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

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Speaker 5: The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western

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Speaker 5: Division champions.

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Speaker 1: And you know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Saxon Kates and AM is back.

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Speaker 1: This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates

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Speaker 1: and former World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 6: Reacting taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all

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Speaker 6: postseason long.

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Speaker 1: Now here they are on AM five to seventy LA

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Speaker 1: Sports and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: Steve Sacks, Tim Kaits.

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Speaker 1: Tim Kates and World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 6: Ah not a playoff edition of scam, a World Series edition.

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Speaker 6: I'm Sacks and Kate in the Am. Yes, as the

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Speaker 6: Dodgers are going back to the Fall Classic, and man

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Speaker 6: are we excited for what is coming up? I am

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Speaker 6: Tim Kats along with two times World Series Champion, Rookie

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Speaker 6: of the Year and our favorite number three to wear

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Speaker 6: a Dodger uniform.

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Speaker 3: The one and only Steve Sack Sexy. Good Monday morning

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Speaker 3: to you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: How you doing. What's up? Tim?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: What a weekend it was here in southern California. So

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Speaker 6: much going on, and they got off to a great

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Speaker 6: start on Friday night with our Dodgers. Really solidified his

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Speaker 6: spots with a win over the Brewers in Game four

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Speaker 6: the NLCS, And here we are back to back trips

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Speaker 6: to the Fall Classic for the Los Angeles Dodgers, and

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Speaker 6: they did it in a business like effort and after

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Speaker 6: the game, it was so fun to see this team celebrate.

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Speaker 6: But I thought it was very interesting Steve, that this

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Speaker 6: was a businesslike approach from the Dodgers after the win,

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Speaker 6: just the victory formation, high five line, a little bit

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Speaker 6: of a celebration on the field, certainly popping the champagne

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Speaker 6: and alcohol inside the Dodger batting cage celebration, but on

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Speaker 6: the field it was very business esque as this team

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Speaker 6: has got more to finish.

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Speaker 2: They got more to finish, no question. But the great

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Speaker 2: thing about it is the experience factor you can see

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Speaker 2: is just running out of this team. Not that they,

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Speaker 2: you know, take anything for granted because they don't. But

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Speaker 2: the business aspect I think you see with that body

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Speaker 2: language is is the proper one. Don't get too high,

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Speaker 2: don't get too low. Although you must celebrate, I think

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Speaker 2: after these victories, even the small celebration that they had

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Speaker 2: against the Reds, you got to do this every time.

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Speaker 2: You got to, you know, reward the team for that accomplishment.

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Speaker 2: You have the next step up. And while we are

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Speaker 2: in a World Series talk today, we're still in playoff

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Speaker 2: mode really because we still have one more game to

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Speaker 2: go and that's going to be tonight. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens after tonight where the Dodgers will play, whether

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Speaker 2: it be home home field or will be on the road.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot riding on the lion tonight for Game

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Speaker 6: seven of the American League Championship Series. With the Blue

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Speaker 6: Jays and Mariners tied and three a piece. As the

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Speaker 6: Blue Jays beat the Mariners last night six to two

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Speaker 6: in Game six to force a Game seven, Vlad Guerrero

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Speaker 6: continues to have a monstrous October for Toronto, but tonight

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Speaker 6: winner moves on to face the Dodgers in the World Series.

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Speaker 6: That game is in Toronto at the Rogers Center, and

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Speaker 6: as you mentioned a lot riding on it. With Seattle winning,

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers would have home field in the World Series

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Speaker 6: beginning Friday, and if the Toronto Blue Jays win, it'll

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Speaker 6: be the home field for the Blue Jays beginning Friday

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Speaker 6: night at the Rogers Center for Game one of the

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Speaker 6: World Series. So a lot riding on who the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: will face and win and where they'll face them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously, I think you know, the the

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Speaker 2: networks would love to have it beat Toronto, La. Then

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Speaker 2: you have East West, you have you know, you have

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Speaker 2: US versus Canada. You got a lot more at stake.

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Speaker 2: You could build up a lot more, I think. But boy,

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Speaker 2: I think the players would think, hey, you know, we

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Speaker 2: field advantage. I think that's where it lies with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I bet I'm not in that clubhouse every day. So

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Speaker 2: maybe this is a question for David Vasse.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dave will join us in the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 6: We got a lot to get to over the next

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Speaker 6: three hours, including your phone calls at eight sixty six,

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Speaker 6: nine eighty seven, two, five seventy. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 6: this game on Friday Night. In just a second later

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Speaker 6: on this hoary, some interesting comments from Andrew Freeman on

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Speaker 6: a five seventy LA Sports on Friday when asked about

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Speaker 6: Rokie Sasaki and a little bit of the story is

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Speaker 6: how he became the Dodgers closer here in October had

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Speaker 6: up later on this hour in the seven o'clock hour.

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Speaker 6: One of the narratives around baseball, Dave Roberts addressed it

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Speaker 6: in the celebration on the field was that the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: are ruining baseball. So we'll get into that in the

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Speaker 6: seven o'clock hour. Also, it's even the nl West is

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Speaker 6: looking to hire a college coach to be their next manager.

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Speaker 6: Maybe Pat Murphy has started a trend around Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 6: Will get sax's opinion on what is happening there in

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Speaker 6: San Francisco with the Giants. Also in the eight o'clock hour,

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Speaker 6: of your phone calls Mariners or Blue Jays, who you

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Speaker 6: want to see the Dodgers face in the World Series.

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Speaker 6: But we go back to Friday Night. Just an epic

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Speaker 6: performance from show hey Otani, six shutout Indians on the mound,

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Speaker 6: Dodgers beat the Brewers five to one. But stax Saxon,

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Speaker 6: We're we're now being told this is the greatest performance

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Speaker 6: the ten strikeouts, and the three home runs that show

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Speaker 6: Aotani hit. First off, your your initial impressions when you're watching, show,

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Speaker 6: hey Otani do what he did on Friday night?

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Speaker 2: Well, he, uh, you know, first of all, too in

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Speaker 2: and he was facing the toughest of the tough when

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Speaker 2: He was able to see the flight of the ball.

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Speaker 2: He did hit three out over the stadium in batting practice.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this was something that helped him. You could see

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Speaker 2: Uh I remember we talked about that in studio. Is

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Speaker 2: ah I see something a little bit different about Otani.

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Speaker 2: I don't see the reaction. I don't see him jolting

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Speaker 2: that he's tracking the ball better. And sure enough, that's

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Speaker 2: what he did. You know, on Friday's game, it was amazing,

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Speaker 2: probably the most epic performance I've seen. When you want

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Speaker 2: course nobody else does that, but if you add it

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Speaker 2: all up, yeah, it might be the best performance I've

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Speaker 2: I was calling the game when Nick Kurtz had his

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Speaker 2: might have been the greatest performance offensively. But when you

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Speaker 2: when you round it all up and say the three

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Speaker 2: argue that this might be the best performance ever.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the three home runs alone from sho Heyo

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Speaker 6: Tani would go into a feat that not a lot

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Speaker 6: of guys have done in the history Baseball. Only twenty

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Speaker 6: one players have ever done that hit three home runs

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Speaker 6: in a postseason game. Then you add the ten strikeouts

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Speaker 6: and six shutout inningans if we wouldn't have seen what

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Speaker 6: Blake Snell has already done this postseason and Yamamoto did

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Speaker 6: with the complete game, we could be talking about what

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Speaker 6: that was one of the best postseason outings this October

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Speaker 6: from sho Heyo Tani. But he's got other guys step

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Speaker 6: the combination of the three home runs, hitting one of

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Speaker 6: I don't think people comprehend how hard that is. Then

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Speaker 6: you know, they hear Otani hit three home runs and

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Speaker 6: understand what the big deal is. So he hit a

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Speaker 6: don't need to understand. Nobody does this like you either

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Speaker 6: do one or the other. You either throw six shutout

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Speaker 3: You don't do both.

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Speaker 2: Would we would be marveling, tim if there was a

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Speaker 2: We'd be marveling at the fact that the guy could

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Speaker 2: do that. He's a two way player. Look at this,

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Speaker 2: How does he change from going being an outfielder to

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Speaker 2: you know, a good hitter that can hit you know,

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Speaker 2: twelve to twenty home runs a year, and we're just

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Speaker 2: we just can't believe what we're seeing. Otani is is

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Speaker 2: miles ahead of that. This is this is one of

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Speaker 2: and he's the guy in the game that has the

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did I mention that he can steal fifty bases?

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Speaker 2: This is ridiculous what we're seeing. It's we've taken him

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Speaker 2: for granted way too much, way too much. There should

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Speaker 2: be a lot more pomp and circumstance when it comes

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Speaker 2: to what shohey, Otani can do. He can hit, he

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Speaker 2: can hit it farther than anybody, He can run better

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Speaker 2: and the overall hitting performances are just about better than anybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else you can say. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this guy's a unicorn.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the numbers speak for himself. With any you

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is all stuff you'll never.

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Speaker 2: No, we'll never see this again. As I said the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes you know, you got to do that

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Speaker 6: Is it the greatest performance ever in baseball history? Probably so,

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Speaker 6: Course of the game, no arguing, three home runs, six

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Speaker 6: that was the greatest performance. But still in my eyes,

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Speaker 3: Performance, yes, overall.

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Speaker 2: Eight s Jim, I really like the way you clarified

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Speaker 3: There is a difference, huge difference, right, Yeah, But.

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Speaker 3: Then on Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 2: This said layers to it, right, But this is the

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Speaker 3: Yes, ever. Greatest moment is something you can pinpoint.

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Speaker 6: It's something you look at and say, at this time,

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Speaker 3: The game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you. I think you nailed it right there.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're both great. I mean, it's hard to

436
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Speaker 6: you what's what's greater than the other.

437
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Speaker 2: But if somebody says, uh, you know, Gibson's home run

438
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Speaker 2: was a was the greatest moment, I'd say yeah. Or

439
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: if somebody said Freddie Freeman's was, I would say yeah.

440
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: I would say they're both the maybe equal, but there's

441
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Speaker 2: no question what what sho hey o Tani did? I mean,

442
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: just imagine if a guy was even a part way

443
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: pitcher and uh he was a you know, a decent hitter.

444
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Speaker 2: Uh shoeyo Tani is better than everybody at both So

445
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: he just got to look at that and to do

446
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Speaker 2: it on the stage in postseason especially now, I said,

447
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: especially not especially Okay, you ever noticed that to him?

448
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: A lot of people they say especially. I don't know

449
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: why they do that. I mean, it's especially right, yes, okay, good,

450
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: It's like realtor and some people say real a tour.

451
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: It's not realtor. It's realtor anyway, just just a little grammar.

452
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Speaker 2: And so any way to do it on that stage,

453
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, postseason, that's sick, man. I mean, that's just

454
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Speaker 2: nobody could ever do that. It's not even contemplated by

455
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Speaker 2: anybody else except Shohio Tani. And like I said, I'll

456
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Speaker 2: mention it again, probably one hundred years ahead of his time.

457
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Speaker 6: Now, what exactly was the greatest part of this achievement

458
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Speaker 6: on Friday night? Was it the six shutout innings? I guess?

459
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Speaker 6: Was it the ten strikeouts? Okay, the two of those

460
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Speaker 6: combined really good? Is it the fact that he hit

461
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Speaker 6: three home runs? I mean, if he hits two home

462
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Speaker 6: runs on Friday night and does what he did, are

463
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Speaker 6: we still talking about the greatest performance ever? Or is

464
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Speaker 6: it the three home runs, one of them going out

465
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Speaker 6: of Dodger Stadium?

466
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Speaker 1: Uh?

467
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Speaker 3: And then the six shutout?

468
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Speaker 6: Is it? Is it the entirety? Isn't all of it combined?

469
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Speaker 6: It's if he doesn't want to do one of those things.

470
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Speaker 6: It's not the greatest performance.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe not. Here's why it's the greatest performance

472
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Speaker 2: because it's it's everything, it's the it's the totality of

473
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Speaker 2: the whole thing. Okay, he's up there, he's shoving pitching. Okay,

474
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: he's a oven, just right through them. Ten strikeouts, he

475
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Speaker 2: only walks three. H he was unbelievable that. Okay. Then

476
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: the three home runs, I mean, this is off the chart.

477
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Speaker 2: But he hits it out of the stadium. Okay, the

478
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: first time is like, that's like a shot. It's like

479
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: a gigantic baboom. Okay, out of the stadium as well.

480
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Speaker 2: Oh guess what, folks, this is just the beginning, because

481
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna see two more absolute howitzers coming off of

482
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Speaker 2: that bat to come. And oh yeah, by the way,

483
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: everybody's questioning, can he ever do it again? Oh? Is

484
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: this a shot in the flashing the pen? He can't

485
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Speaker 2: do it in postseason because this is the most elite

486
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Speaker 2: pitching he's gonna see. Oh, Philly really shoved it up.

487
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: You know, he can't do it against anybody in postseason. Well,

488
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: guess what, he wins the MVP of the nl DS,

489
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Speaker 2: this NLCS I'm sorry of the NLCS basically in one night. Yeah,

490
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: that's what he did, because he was just getting, you know,

491
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 2: run over by the pitching. And then he changes it

492
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Speaker 2: one night and wins the NLCS MVP.

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Speaker 3: Heunreal how dumb am I?

494
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Speaker 6: I was at the game, did the pregame show, watched

495
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Speaker 6: him pitch that first inting bottom of the first show, Hey,

496
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 6: hits that leadoff home run. I grabbed my backpack, I

497
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 6: grabbed my stuff, and I said, I'm out of here.

498
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 6: I did not stick around and watch the game.

499
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Speaker 3: I was there for that.

500
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Speaker 6: I was there for the first home run, and I

501
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 6: did not see the rest of them. And now everybody's

502
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Speaker 6: talking about the greatest performance in postseason history ever. And

503
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Speaker 6: I left in the first inning to go home and

504
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Speaker 6: watch the game.

505
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Speaker 2: And listen to go home and watch the game. Yeah,

506
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: well I.

507
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Speaker 6: Was trying to beat the crowd too. I've been there

508
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 6: all afternoon. We you know, wrapped up five days of SCAM.

509
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Speaker 3: I was tired.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you what, I'm tired getting up at

511
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Speaker 2: four am. You know, we get up at four am

512
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: so we can be on point with scam. Yeah.

513
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm kicking myself now because I went to Don

514
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 6: Kucko's on Friday night and they're like, hey, how was

515
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 6: the game? I said, I left in the first, and

516
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 6: one of them like, you know with me, what are

517
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Speaker 6: you doing?

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow.

520
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Speaker 6: Now, I mean it's not like leaving when you guys

521
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 6: were losing in the ninth and all of a sudden,

522
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 6: hit my brakes and when Gibby hits the home run.

523
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Speaker 3: Not like that. But I still feel like an idiot

524
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: leaving early in the first.

525
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Speaker 2: So where did you catch the game when you got home?

526
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Speaker 6: Uh? Well, it took me a little while to get

527
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Speaker 6: out of there because I was going against the grain

528
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Speaker 6: of traffic coming in Still, so the next two or

529
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Speaker 6: three innings I was listening to on the radio, and

530
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Speaker 6: then I got home and was listening and watching it

531
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Speaker 6: at home until the end of it.

532
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Speaker 2: So so you're watching like in the fourth Inny None, yep,

533
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: yeakay yeah, after that.

534
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Speaker 6: Second home run, and I saw the third one on TV,

535
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 6: so unreal, wow, unreal.

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Speaker 2: Well, I saw three tim the greatest performance ever eight

537
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Speaker 2: six six nine eighty seven two five seventy, but not

538
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Speaker 2: the greatest moment ever eight sixty six nine eighty seven

539
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Speaker 2: two five seventy.

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Speaker 3: He is team Sacks.

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Speaker 6: I'm Tim Kates, who want you to be a part

542
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Speaker 6: of the show on this Monday morning, the Dodgers going

543
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Speaker 6: back to the World Series. On your Home with the Dodgers,

544
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Speaker 6: Anti seventy LA Sports.

545
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: Old Tony Te's off deep Brightfield. Show Hey Old Toney.

546
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Speaker 7: One of one an Old Tony towering wall, high drive,

547
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Speaker 7: bright Field. He's stunned again. Show Hey Old Tony. To

548
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Speaker 7: the top of the pavilion in right field four hundred

549
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 7: and sixty nine feet the longest home run at Dodgers

550
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 7: Stadium this year.

551
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Speaker 3: Four nothing Dodgers in Game four, and Otani's knocked in

552
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: two of them. Incredible, absolutely incredible. Big Righty McGill SATs

553
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 3: on the mountain. Here's the pitch and Otani tries one

554
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Speaker 3: left center field.

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Speaker 7: Dig you go, show Hey Otani, the stuff of legend.

556
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 6: Show Hey Otani, the greatest show on Earth. In what

557
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 6: has been called the greatest baseball game ever played by

558
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 6: a player in Show Hey Otani, six shutout any three

559
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 6: home runs one one four hundred four forty six feet,

560
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: another one win four hundred and sixty nine feet out

561
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 6: of Dodgers Stadium in the third home run four hundred

562
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 6: and twenty seven feet to left center field. As we

563
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 6: are all in awe on Friday night, as the Dodgers

564
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 6: beaf the Milwaukee Brewers five to one to punch their

565
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 6: ticket to another World Series starting on Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Who will they play?

567
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Speaker 6: We'll find out tonight Game seven of the Alcs, the

568
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 6: Blue Jays and the Seattle Mariners. Seattle wins, Dodgers host

569
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 6: game one and two on Friday and Saturday. If the

570
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Speaker 6: Blue Jays win, the Dodgers will head north of the

571
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Speaker 6: border Friday and Saturday and play at the Rogers Center

572
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 6: against the Toronto Blue Jays. We'll get into that matchup

573
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Speaker 6: coming up later on. David Vata Say will join us.

574
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Speaker 6: We'll get into it whether or not the Dodgers are

575
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Speaker 6: ruining baseball. But Friday night to the greatest performance ever

576
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 6: in baseball history from show Hey Otani, and again not

577
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 6: the greatest moment in baseball history, but certainly the greatest

578
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 6: performance in Major League Baseball history. And I think back

579
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 6: to the the lead up to that, Steve and again

580
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 6: the doubters, the naysayers starting to creep into this guy

581
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 6: can't do it. I think some of the baseball scribes

582
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: out there, we're starting to get into that narrative of Okay,

583
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 6: maybe he's human, Maybe maybe this guy's mortal, Maybe this

584
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: guy can't be a two way player. Maybe we're asking

585
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 6: too much for show. Hey o Tani, and he quickly

586
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 6: shut them up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did. And you know, look, Tim, as we

588
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: talked about before, there's more to come. We all know

589
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 2: that there's there's probably things that we're gonna see. We

590
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: can't imagine it right now because we probably saw the

591
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Speaker 2: most epic, you know, performance in in history. I mean

592
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Speaker 2: when you talk about pitching and hitting, the time that

593
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Speaker 2: he did it and the importance of the of the game.

594
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Speaker 2: But we may see something again that we didn't expect,

595
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be grabbing our head like Freddy Freeman

596
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: did in the Dugout and said, what the heck else

597
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: are we going to see from this guy? But probably

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Speaker 2: well eight.

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Speaker 6: Six, six, nine, eighty seven, two five seventy, Lee and Corona,

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Speaker 6: welcome to Sack in the Am on this Monday Morning show.

601
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Speaker 6: Hey Otani, the greatest performance ever?

602
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Speaker 4: Hey guys, yeah, yes it was. And Tim, that was

603
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Speaker 4: a great thing to say. Also the greatest moment and

604
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Gibby because of one specific reason. They

605
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: were both hurt. I believe Gibbey was hurt more, but

606
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: they were both hurt. But Freeman did his off of

607
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Speaker 4: Nestor Cortes, who was very average at the time, when

608
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Speaker 4: when Boone brought him in, Gibson hit his off of Eckersley,

609
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Speaker 4: who was the greatest relief pitcher of that generation. Also,

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Speaker 4: I'm the guy that keeps being wrong on the starting pitching,

611
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Speaker 4: So once they announced the pitchers for this series, I'm

612
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: going to call back and be wrong again because I'm

613
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: three for three for being wrong and they keep winning.

614
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Speaker 4: And then you guys can scold me on on who

615
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Speaker 4: I think should be the starting pitching and who Roberts

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Speaker 4: is gonna do. And then my last thing is a

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Speaker 4: question for you, Steve, who is the greatest player you've

618
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Speaker 4: ever played with? Who was in their prime? And who

619
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Speaker 4: was the greatest pitcher you ever played with who was

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Speaker 4: in their prime. I'm gonna listen to it off the air.

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Speaker 4: Thanks you guys, great show, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, Thanks Louie, appreciate it. Yeah, the greatest player you

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Speaker 6: ever played with, Steve Sacks played with or again, how

624
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 6: about either one or if that if that greatest player

625
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 6: wasn't or wasn't on your team?

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Speaker 2: Who wasn't you know, man, I mean I can I

627
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: could go down a long list of that. I mean,

628
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Speaker 2: you know, there's there was a in their prime days. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think in Dodge for as

630
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Speaker 2: far as Dodgers go, you gotta put Garvy in there,

631
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Speaker 2: you got to put you know, as far as guys

632
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Speaker 2: outside of that, I mean pitching, Fernando, you know, he

633
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Speaker 2: was he was definitely one of the greatest. And uh

634
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Speaker 2: but I think outside of everything, you know, I played against,

635
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: you know, George Brett and Kirby Puckett and Don Mattingly

636
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: was it was a teammate, you know, I just uh,

637
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: by the way here, yeah, I mean, you know, guys

638
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Speaker 2: like Clemens, and I mean there was you know, there

639
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: were some unbelievable pitchers accuracy. I played against so many

640
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famers that it would be uh, it wouldn't

641
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: be fair to just point out a couple, but there

642
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: was a lot of them. And that's why I really

643
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: liked the baseball of the of the eighties and nineties

644
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: because it was it was when baseball was was was

645
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: not marred by I don't want to say marred, but

646
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: but a lot because a lot of the things that

647
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: have come into baseball with the changes, people really like,

648
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: and I like a lot of them too, uh so.

649
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Speaker 2: But I think in the innocence of baseball, those days

650
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Speaker 2: were my favorite days.

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00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 6: So it's the days before the pitch clock, the days

652
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 6: before we're going to have an automatic strike zone, the

653
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 6: days before the ghost runner at second base.

654
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: It's well, that's the bobby, that's that's the softball runner

655
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: at second base. That's the one that really just chaps

656
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: my behind is is putting the runner at second base.

657
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: And I know it cuts the game down. We can

658
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: get out of here early and we can go have dinner.

659
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: But but but to me, that's it takes away from

660
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: you know, you work the whole game. The pitcher works

661
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: his tail off the whole game, maybe he's been in

662
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: there the whole time, and then you're gonna go ahead

663
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: and put a runner at second base and mess it

664
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: all up. To me, I understand you want to get

665
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: the game over. I get it, But that to me

666
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: just takes away from the essence of all that hard

667
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: work during the game.

668
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 6: I'm with you, I used to agree with you, and

669
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 6: I have completely come around on it. I like the

670
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 6: ghost runner, so to speak, the free runner at second

671
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 6: base because it's a Wednesday night against the White Sox

672
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 6: in May. I don't want this game going thirteen Indians.

673
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 6: I don't want the Dodgers or any baseball team having

674
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: to use six relievers and all of a sudden it's

675
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 6: the fourteenth inning, and that ruins things for the next

676
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 6: two days or the next series that the Dodgers have

677
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 6: to play. And next thing you know, they're having to

678
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 6: play catch up for a week or two with the Arms.

679
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 6: Because that one game on a Wednesday night against the

680
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 6: White Sox that you know, means something. But we could

681
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 6: have sped things up, and it provides a little bit

682
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 6: of sense of urgency. Also, move a runner over. I mean,

683
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 6: if it's such a big deal, then then then you know,

684
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 6: make sure. I mean there's some teams now that won't

685
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 6: even bunt the runner over, Steve even nobody many teams won't.

686
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: I see him up there. I see the second basement

687
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: behind second base, you know, just barely on the right

688
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: side of second in that situation where you bunt him over.

689
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: Now they know the hitter is not going to do

690
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: it with the right hand and pull hitter. He's just

691
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: he's just gonna go launch, you know. But but the

692
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: you know what, the one thing that's taken away from

693
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: all this is is the the element of attrition. And

694
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: that's part of the game too. You know, the war

695
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: of attrition is you know who can stand out there,

696
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: who can battle the injuries, and you know who can't.

697
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: And that's that's really mitigated. Now with the fact that

698
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: you put that guy on second base and get the

699
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: game over early, you don't have to worry about so

700
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: much the war of attrition.

701
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 6: I hate when people say, well, if you're the home team,

702
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 6: you've got to score at lead. You're the visiting team

703
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: and you're out there first, you have to score at

704
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 6: least too, because it's a fore gone conclude that runner

705
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 6: at second base is gonna score. So you need to

706
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 6: score two, not just the one free runner at second base.

707
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 6: We I mean just the one. It's not a given

708
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 6: anymore than that run's gonna score. But you just assume

709
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 6: because a guy is standing on second in the tenth

710
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 6: inning with nobody out, that runs automatically gonna score. So

711
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 6: the guy to play, that's the guy that really has

712
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 6: to score. Because if you score two runs, you're really

713
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 6: putting it out of reach. When did a free runner

714
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 6: at second all of a sudden become a given that

715
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 6: that guy was just gonna score. If that was the case,

716
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 6: let's just give each team a run and just keep

717
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 6: going back and forth.

718
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: Are you surprised that the ghosts they called the ghost runner?

719
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: Huh uh? Are you surprised that they don't bunt that

720
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: runner over more? Yes, I'm shocked. I mean, that's that's

721
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: an easy one. You just hey, you don't have to

722
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: bun him over, but hit it hard over to the

723
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: right side. Get to give yourself up, not really hit

724
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: it hard over there, hit it hard and low. That means,

725
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: you know, on the ground, the skimmer through the right side. Man,

726
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: I made a living doing that, and these guys today

727
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: they just started trying to wrap it around the leftfield

728
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: voul ball. You know, get the runner over. You must

729
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: get the runner over. You know when when you get

730
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: the runner over, you don't get paid for it. You know,

731
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: you don't get paid for it. You get paid for

732
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: hitting home runs and striking out. That's what you're getting

733
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: paid for. And so if you get the runner over

734
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: and you come back to the dugout. Watch how many

735
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: of your teammates are up giving you the high five

736
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: because they know how important it is. Yeah, you may

737
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: not get paid for it, but you made a productive

738
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: out and everybody knows that that's the right way to

739
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: play the game. But it's just not cool, it's not fashionable.

740
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't reek of saber metrics saying that, well, two

741
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: out of five times you hit a home run or

742
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: one out of eight times you hit a home run,

743
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: and overall, that's worth it. Well, it ain't worth it

744
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: in this one game right here, because we just lost

745
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: because we didn't get the run over. I've seen it

746
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: happen so many times in the last couple of years

747
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: where they don't get the runner over and the next team,

748
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: the home team comes up, bunts them over, has a

749
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: sacrifice fly game over. I mean it happens all the time.

750
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: So I don't agree with the numbers crunching stuff all

751
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: the time.

752
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 6: Well, analytics tells you you don't waste it out, and

753
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 6: a bunch is considered a waste it out.

754
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: Now in the postseason, that's a different waste, different animals.

755
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: The opera word to waste it out. It's not wasted

756
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: it's productive out.

757
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 6: It's in their eyes, it's a wasted out where you

758
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 6: can try to slug and again they're God, they're chasing

759
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 6: that second run.

760
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Who's out the guys that never played before to wear

761
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: the shirt and tie and have a job. That's that's

762
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: who's out.

763
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: It is the guys on their Apple MacBooks. Those are

764
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 3: those guys.

765
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: Got it.

766
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: But they're chasing the second run. That's what it is.

767
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 6: Everybody just assumes that runner and second is going to

768
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 6: score anyways, so we really need that second run.

769
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: In order to get this win.

770
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't always score exactly, No, exactly, Yeah, So anyway.

771
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 6: Eight six, six ninety seven two five seventy more of

772
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 6: your phone calls coming up up next?

773
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: Fuh.

774
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: Andrew Freeman explains the backstory to Rokie Susaki becoming the

775
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 6: Dodger closer? Yes, how did he ended up the phenom

776
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 6: here in October shutting things down for the Dodgers. Here

777
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 6: from Andrew Freeman is how this all played out and

778
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 6: how a guy who spent most of the season on

779
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 6: the injured list and coming back from an injury now

780
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 6: is the darlings of the Dodgers. Rookie Sasaki your phone

781
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 6: calls Dodgers ruining baseball. Will get into that next hour,

782
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 6: a team of the NL West hiring a college coach

783
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 6: to manage their team. All of that coming up right

784
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 6: here on Saxon Kates them on a FI seventy ice Sports,

785
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 6: Saxon Kate's.

786
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: In the Am.

787
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 6: It's a Monday morning here in southern California as the

788
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 6: Dodgers all wait to see who they will face in

789
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 6: the World Series beginning Friday night. Will it be the

790
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 6: Toronto Blue Jays? Will it be the Seattle Mariners. They

791
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: will play decisive Game seven tonight at the Rogers Center

792
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 6: in can with the Mariners looking to get the win

793
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 6: the Dodgers that would have home field advantage in the

794
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 6: World Series. If the Blue Jays win tonight, that means

795
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 6: the Dodgers have to fly north of the border to

796
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 6: Canada and start the World Series Friday night at the

797
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 6: Rogers Center in Toronto, Canada. So we'll find out tonight

798
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 6: altogether who the Dodgers will face. The Dodgers saw the

799
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 6: Mariners at the end of the season the final weekend

800
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 6: on the regular season up in Seattle and swept that

801
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 6: series against the Mariners. So we'll see if they can

802
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 6: get a rematch of that series. Certainly the Dodgers even

803
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 6: playing better than they were that final weekend. Let's go

804
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 6: out to Oscar and Baldwin park Eure up next up

805
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 6: on Saxon Kate today, am how you do an Oscar

806
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 6: hol Me Kate.

807
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 8: Mister Steve SAgs When I was here as gentlemen, Oh

808
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 8: what a great time of being a la right now.

809
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 8: I like Dodgers fans by Dodger the joy and man,

810
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 8: we're watching history right now. It's hard to believe that

811
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 8: the Dodgers have never won back to back World series. Man,

812
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 8: I still kind of chip out on that this is

813
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 8: the year real quick enough, Tony Man. As the weekend

814
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 8: went on, I was talking about, Buddy, Yes, you don't.

815
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 8: I don't even think we know what we saw on

816
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 8: Friday nights, and then now the days going by, we're

817
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 8: exactly what we saw. To me, that's the equipment of

818
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 8: a of a of a quarterback throwing for three hundred yards,

819
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 8: a couple of touch ups and playing defense, get a

820
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 8: couple of interceptions and returning and get a touchdown on that.

821
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 8: You know that? I mean, I don't know basketball playing

822
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 8: That was something we never seen you know, nobody at

823
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 8: last seen Baby Groupe play, so we've never seen that

824
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 8: as historic. And I'm glad to be watching right now,

825
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 8: so you know, that's what I got this morning, and

826
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 8: or just so wish the World Series are starting tomorrow,

827
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 8: to be honest with you, but you know whatever, I

828
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 8: guess we only need a little break, So go Dodgers.

829
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: Over the day, all right, thanks a lot, Oscar.

830
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: That that is kind of a good comparison a quarterback

831
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 6: going out and throwing three touchdowns and then going over

832
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 6: and getting three sacks as a safety or a linebacker

833
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 6: on the defensive side. You know, we just don't see

834
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 6: that guy's playing two ways in the NFL. This is

835
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 6: I guess the closest thing you can equivalent.

836
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: You know, tim if I may. Oscar brings up a

837
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: good point, and it's another analogy, yet another one we don't.

838
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: We can't compare it with anything. We keep trying. Oscar

839
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: makes a good shot at it right there. You know,

840
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: football player playing defense and throwing three touchdowns. Okay, but

841
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: does it really sum it up. We're trying to find

842
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: an adequate analogy for what shoe Hee Otani does and

843
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: what he did on Friday, but we we still can't.

844
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Nobody can really make a great determination exactly what he did.

845
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: Only Otani can do that, and it's just it's people

846
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: are still shaking their heads.

847
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 6: Rookie Susaki has caught the baseball world by storm for

848
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 6: what he is morphed into here as now. The Dodger

849
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 6: closer and Dodger Stadium went crazy for him Friday or

850
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 6: on Thursday when he came in and pitched the game

851
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 6: and got the save. He came in and pitched Friday

852
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: as well to pick up the save and struck out

853
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 6: a batter. Rookie Susaki wasn't always like this. I remember

854
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 6: back when they started the season when they first signed him,

855
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: young arm out of Japan. He comes over, throws one

856
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 6: hundred miles an hour, much talked about. Got a start

857
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: against the Cubs over in Japan when they played that

858
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 6: series over in Tokyo and went three Indians and looked

859
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 6: a little shell shock, had some control issues, walked five.

860
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 6: He walked a total of ten batters in his first

861
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 6: three starts and looked shaky, looked like a guy who

862
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 6: was trying to find himself. Ended up going on the

863
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 6: injured list. Steve and missed the better part of this season.

864
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 6: He missed all of May, June, July, August, in most

865
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 6: of September before coming back the final week of the season.

866
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 6: Now the rookie Sasaki we see now is this confident,

867
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 6: young flamethrowing closer that the Dodgers have and another weapon

868
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 6: they have now at the back end of the bullpen.

869
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: Here's Andrew Freeman, president of Baseball Operations, on with Petro

870
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 6: some money on Friday before Game four, and I had

871
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 6: not heard this before. It's sort of the backstory of

872
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 6: Roki societ and how he morphed in to what he

873
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 6: is compared to.

874
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: Where he was.

875
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 6: And listen to what he has to say, Dodger fans.

876
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 6: This was a rokie Susaki who they were already looking

877
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 6: ahead to next year. He wasn't a part of the

878
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 6: plans here in October Baseball until he decided to morph

879
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 6: into a new role.

880
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: Take a listen.

881
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: Gets off to kind of an uneven start. Delivery was

882
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: out of whack, a little bit, stuff was down, ends

883
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: up missing a long chunk of time, and so at

884
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: that point our starters were rolling.

885
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: He has made a few.

886
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 5: Rehab outings where stuff still hadn't quite come back. Delivery

887
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 5: hadn't quite clicked for him, and at that time, it's like, Okay,

888
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 5: we're gonna have to have a really productive offseason to

889
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 5: get him ready for the season next year.

890
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: And then he went.

891
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 5: Down to Arizona and with our pitching coordinator Rob Hill,

892
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: had kind of a breakthrough moment and then solidified with

893
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 5: him watching some video next outing in Triple A, it

894
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, that's really good. Like he's

895
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: kind of back to that twenty two twenty three because

896
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 5: even twenty twenty four wasn't quite peak Rokie, so it

897
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 5: was back to those twenty twenty three levels.

898
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: And so.

899
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 5: At that time our starting pitching was in such a

900
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: good place. It was Hey, the only way to really

901
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 5: the pathway to impact us in October is in the bullpen.

902
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 5: If you don't want to do it, we totally understand

903
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: you've never done it, takes them getting used to there's

904
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 5: some risk with it, but that is the pathway, and

905
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: we feel like you can really help us. I said,

906
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 5: don't want you to answer, now, go think about it.

907
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: So he did.

908
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 5: Next day He's like I'm in So it's like, okay,

909
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 5: go do two relief outings in Okac. We'll bring you up,

910
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: get you a couple before the end of the year,

911
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 5: and we'll all see where it is. There's no promises,

912
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 5: we'll see where it is. And obviously it's been incredible.

913
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 6: There's Andrew Freeman amazing that he was not even in

914
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 6: the plans for the rest of twenty twenty five. They're

915
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 6: already looking ahead to next year and they said the

916
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 6: only shot you have is if you can get a

917
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 6: spot in the bullpen. There's no guarantees. He said, yep,

918
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 6: I want in and worked his way into it and

919
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 6: good for him. Wanted to be a part of this

920
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 6: roster any way possible, and I just love that about him. Steve,

921
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: this is a guy who could have said, no, I'm

922
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 6: a starter, I'll wait till next year. I'm not gonna

923
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 6: go to the bullpen. You know you signed me out

924
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 6: of Japan to be a starter. That's what I am.

925
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 6: But no, he's a team guy. He wanted to be

926
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 6: a part of this team and he's really warped himself

927
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 6: into this new role.

928
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. It's amazing and I like the way

929
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Andrew Frieman put it to him. He gave him a choice,

930
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: and this is how you can really help us, And

931
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: of course he wanted to do that up from ninety

932
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: one miles proward during the season, that's where he was

933
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: throwing in the regular season. He's over ninety nine to

934
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: one hundred now with the four seam fastball of velocity.

935
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: He's yielded just one hit in the sixteen at bats

936
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: in October off of this pitch. Oh, by the way,

937
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: if you want to throw a splitter in there as well,

938
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: that has a fifty percent wiff rate in the playoffs

939
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: and he's been lights out closing games for the Dodgers.

940
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: So there you have it. Coming out of the pen,

941
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: you need two pay at least fastball and something else.

942
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: If you're a starter, you need three, and he has three,

943
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: but he's been using mostly mostly now, he's been using two,

944
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: the fastball and the splitter. He's got the curveball or

945
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: the cutter. I think he's got four pitches. But you

946
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: just need to in postseason for being a closer, and

947
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: that's what he's done and he's been fantastic at doing it.

948
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 6: I love the fact that they didn't promise him anything,

949
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 6: and they told him, if you're gonna have to work

950
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 6: your way and okay, see and if we like what

951
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 6: you see there in a couple outings, all right, then

952
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 6: we're gonna call you up the last week or so

953
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 6: of the season and give you a couple of opportunities

954
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 6: and if it works out, you know, again, no guarantees,

955
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 6: but we'll see if you can get onto this postseason roster.

956
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 6: I think the struggles of the bullpen though the final

957
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 6: month of the season opened the door. Certainly, the struggles

958
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: of Kirby Yates, Tanner Scott, the inability to find somebody

959
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 6: to close the guy out of game and get those

960
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 6: final three outs certainly paved the way for rookie Sasaki.

961
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 6: Credit to him for one wanting to give this role

962
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 6: and seeing that opportunity unity. But then the second part

963
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 6: is he had to seize that opportunity. It's one thing

964
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 6: to want to go do it and say, okay, I

965
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 6: see my role, I see a path to me be

966
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 6: part of this team, but he still had to go

967
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 6: out and do it, and then the Dodgers had to

968
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 6: trust him. And hearing these comments from Andrew Freeman, it

969
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 6: puts into context more seeing Dave Roberts the final the

970
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 6: week of the season and even in the wild card

971
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 6: in DS round where he kept getting asked about Sasaki,

972
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 6: is he your closer?

973
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: Is he your closer? Is he your guy?

974
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 6: And he kept him in a han like, yeah, you know,

975
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 6: he's one of our guys. High leverage. They I don't

976
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 6: think they still quite understood what they had. I don't

977
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 6: think they quite believed yet that in this small sample size,

978
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 6: this guy is really this.

979
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: Dominant and and you know, I think they are very

980
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised what they've gotten here, because look, the test

981
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: was going to Oklahoma City, as as you pointed out,

982
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: he had to pass that test. Well he did, then

983
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: he had an opportunity because of the state of the bullpen.

984
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: He comes in there, he's kind of thrust into this

985
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 2: job because that's the only level he was really tested in, right,

986
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: And so he comes out and you know, he does

987
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: such a great performance. But it's not always about especially

988
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: in that closer position, Tim, It's not only about your

989
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 2: stuff and throwing strikes. It's having the right mentality. That's

990
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: a big part of being a closer is having the

991
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: right bulldog mentality to number one, go out there and

992
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: be able to mow guys down that he does. But

993
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: if you get dinged up to have some amnesia, if

994
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: you will, and forget about that and concentrate being the

995
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: moment to get this next hitter. And that's what this

996
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: guy does. He's just remarkable athlete all around, but coming

997
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: in there and being a closer is special. And he

998
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: certainly met the need of the team.

999
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 6: He has met the need, and he has meant a

1000
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 6: lot so far to this Dodgers team. One hour down,

1001
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 6: two to go, and we got a lot to get

1002
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 6: to coming up over the next two hours, including Mariners

1003
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 6: or Blowjays. Who's a better fit for the Dodgers to

1004
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 6: face in the World Series. The Giants are hiring a

1005
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 6: college baseball coach. Maybe, Oh, we'll see if Steve Sacks

1006
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 6: likes that move. The Giants decided to do it up next,

1007
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 6: the Dodgers ruining baseball, the narrative spreading across the game,

1008
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 6: and Dave Roberts has had enough. Eight sixty six, nine

1009
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 6: eighty seven, two, five seventy your phone calls coming up,

1010
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 6: Thanks for being with us. He is Steve Sacks, I'm

1011
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 6: Tim Kates. Is Sax and Kates in the am here

1012
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Speaker 6: on five seventy LA Sports