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Speaker 1: I'm the fan, I am Dave Sinekon soon to be joined.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming by the professor of hoopology, a Gopher legend,

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Speaker 1: So I think he probably timed it in a way

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Speaker 1: here from there anymore. It's a very circuitous route from

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Speaker 1: the elevator to our studio. So I'm guessing he's making

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Speaker 1: his way. Looking forward to that, looking forward to chilling

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Speaker 1: on a midweek Vibe on the Fan, Dave Sinecon and

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Speaker 1: again this morning with Blake Moore and soon Double Tee

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Speaker 1: for a few hours of just hanging out and chatting

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Speaker 1: out of the NFL and NBA stuff, and mister Blake

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Speaker 1: Moore beginning with your Minnesota wild who again stormed stormed back.

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Speaker 1: At this point, should the Blackhawks just take the l

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Speaker 1: and not even play the wild? I mean, it's getting

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Speaker 1: to a point. We're delicious seventeen h and one the

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Speaker 1: last eighteen games against the Blackhawks.

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Speaker 2: And they're in full they're almost on the way out.

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Speaker 2: But they've been in full tank and rebuilt mode for

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Speaker 1: Would they be relegated at this point your second favorite

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Speaker 1: I feel like at this point it's not even worth.

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Speaker 3: Their trud in the last handful of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were not very good at all, but no,

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Speaker 2: they it's I would say it's a cliche game. As

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Speaker 2: the professor of puckology walks in, it's a well they're

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Speaker 2: down three nothing, but we didn't give up, and we

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Speaker 2: could have just faded away into the night, and all

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Speaker 2: the cliches are true. They they could have just packed

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Speaker 2: it and said we don't got it tonight, and they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They fought back. They grinding their way to win. They

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Speaker 2: they found a way to win, and Capriesov just a

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Speaker 2: beauty in the shootout.

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Speaker 1: The only goal in the shootout for what I read now,

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Speaker 1: didn't see it forgot they were playing. To be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, it was a It was a big ten

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Speaker 1: night for me last night, fair En. Then I realized

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Speaker 1: it too late and realized that they won five for

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Speaker 1: shoot for, and Spurgeon tied it with two h two left.

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Speaker 1: As we welcome in the professor of both hoopology and

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Speaker 1: puckology trying. I'm guessing you were making your way and

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Speaker 1: you saw a big sheet of plastic that stopped you.

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Speaker 1: I had I had around. You had to kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, being around for thirty plus years, you

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Speaker 1: You just your your legs go a certain way because

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Speaker 4: So what's going on here? You know it's not easy.

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Speaker 4: They shut down the studio and they move it to

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Speaker 1: Nice to see you, Thanks for hanging out today. I

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Speaker 1: see you as well. Yeah, it was a wear by

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Speaker 1: the wild last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable. They couldn't just packed it in.

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Speaker 4: It's three zero mm hmm zero deficit. Yeah, prices off

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Speaker 1: You'reing the shootout. All they do is own the black Hawks,

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Speaker 1: That's true, which is a an absolutely beautiful thing. They're

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Speaker 1: back in action tomorrow against Calgary as the homestand I

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Speaker 1: believe comes to an end. But that must have been

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Speaker 1: fun because I mean, as you guys know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: to know that you're down three to nothing in hockey

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Speaker 1: that that's almost a death blow, right, I mean that it's.

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Speaker 3: It can be if you want it to be.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to if you want it to be.

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Speaker 1: It's all about a mindset, is what it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, just reading the gamer of you know,

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Speaker 2: and and I thought it was a it was a

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Speaker 3: All that stuff. Is still a quality win for the.

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Speaker 1: While absolutely double tea. I'm sure you were tuned in

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Speaker 1: a nice comeback. Nice I was, as I said to Brett,

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Speaker 1: I was laser focused on the two Big Ten games

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Speaker 1: on Peacock last night, And as I said to Brett yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the country, but they had been shaky. They lost it

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Speaker 1: sure enough, I mean Nebraska lost that game by three points.

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Speaker 1: Last night. They didn't they they led the entire way.

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Speaker 1: So there was a minute left and Nebraska had that game,

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Speaker 1: think Nebraska proved to a lot of people that you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to yet say they're the Indiana football

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Speaker 1: see how Freddy's boys respond. That's that's a very good team.

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Speaker 1: Purdue look like you know what preseason number one. They

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Speaker 1: They dropped their third straight last night and Indiana beat them.

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Speaker 1: And if you lose to Indiana, you know things aren't

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Speaker 4: There's riding off that emotion and as success at the

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Speaker 1: Once again, no coincidence that Kurz Signetti was in the

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Speaker 1: a big ten night and the Gophers returned to the

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Speaker 1: action tonight in Madison, a game you'll hear right here

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Speaker 1: on the fan. By the way, it's a seven thirty

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Speaker 1: pre game eight o'clock tip. I think we all remember,

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Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago, About three weeks ago, Wisconsin was

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Speaker 1: here and it looked like Kate Tyson hit the shot

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Speaker 1: with three four seconds left, John Blackwell takes dob All

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Tyson's going to play tonight. I

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Speaker 1: heard a bit of the Nico Medved Show and the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, but going into the Colson is very tough

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Speaker 4: for anyone. You know, it's a very good home team.

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Speaker 4: They're very well coached, they understand exactly what you know,

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Speaker 4: they're trying to accomplish on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 4: And to go into Badger Land and win a road game,

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Speaker 4: that's a that's a tall task for anyone.

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Speaker 1: It's tricky. So it's been weird about the Gophers this

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Speaker 1: year is they've been a very good first half team

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Speaker 1: and then just things just change big time. They were

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Speaker 1: they outscored by about twenty points in the second half.

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Speaker 1: So then that's several games that have gone that way,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that coaching staff is going to have

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out how can we finish off games

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's tonight eight o'clock. The Wolves return to

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Speaker 1: action tonight as well. We'll talk some NBA today, of course,

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Speaker 1: it's what we do, it's our bread and butter. And

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the state of the Timberwolves, who snapped

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Speaker 1: their five game losing streak against the Corpse of the

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Speaker 1: So back to backs are never fun, and back in

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Speaker 1: your day they were really not fun because, as you've

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Speaker 1: I'm real curious to see if Ant's available tonight and

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Speaker 1: Is he out again? I don't know, No, I don't

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Speaker 1: You know, Chris Finch was surprised in war Ups. You know,

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Speaker 1: Ant was out before the game against Golden State, shooting around,

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Speaker 1: it's just that toe infection apparently on his right foot

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Speaker 1: ten games and that's We've not had to experience that

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Speaker 1: it's one of those deals. I was thinking with the

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Speaker 1: it's been a rough stretch. Wolves are seventh in the

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Speaker 1: West right now, virtual time for six with Phoenix, but

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Speaker 1: you know, they got to get their act together and

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Speaker 1: it starts tonight in Dallas, a team that's very beatable

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Speaker 1: now with the trade deadline approaching and everybody wondering what

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Speaker 1: Zone on the Fan Tucker Sinnecon and Brett blakemore hanging

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the championship games. The super Bowl is set,

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Speaker 1: the fan has learned Seattle, New England are heading to

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Speaker 1: What struck you by the two games on Sunday? What

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Speaker 4: Roll? You know how you know between Patriots and the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: And we talked about it yesterday. I love watching Who

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Speaker 4: That had to just be so gratifying for her. Oh,

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Speaker 1: folks on the call that he feels like he has

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Speaker 1: to he should wait a year, pay a little penance,

433
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Speaker 1: and wait a year. That's that's that's small mindings it is.

434
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's fifty voters and they're mostly they're retired

435
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Speaker 1: players and I think some media members. But that you

436
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Speaker 1: have needed eighty percent. Eighty percent gets you in. That

437
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Speaker 1: means that even people had to vote against him exactly. Wow,

438
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Speaker 1: did you just do that math in your head. That's impressive.

439
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Speaker 1: I have to write that down. You're right. At least

440
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Speaker 1: eleven of the fifty had to agree with whoever threw

441
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Speaker 1: out there, Like, let's make the dude pay his price.

442
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Speaker 1: We never really liked him. He's bristly, he's he's just

443
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Speaker 1: not a pleasant guy, you know, whatever it is, let's

444
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Speaker 1: just make him wait. That's it's a black high on

445
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Speaker 1: that committee. I mean, i'd almost say, you guys, let's

446
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Speaker 1: put a new group in there to vote, because that's

447
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Speaker 1: just absurd. Yeah, I mean, you know it is.

448
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Speaker 4: And if you're an NFL person, it's almost laughable. For

449
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Speaker 4: someone what idea could they come up with to say

450
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Speaker 4: that Bill Belichick does not deserve whether his first ballots,

451
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Speaker 4: say is a first ballot opportunity, then Bill Belichick is

452
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Speaker 4: not a first ballot Hall of Fame.

453
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Speaker 1: And you look at some of the coaches that are

454
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame to take nothing away from them,

455
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Speaker 1: but like the Don Coriel's and Tom Flores of the

456
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Speaker 1: world that are in there with resumes that you know

457
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Speaker 1: don't even come close. I mean, nobody's a resume approaches Belichick's.

458
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Speaker 1: But there's like four or five guys. Mike Holmgren's a

459
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Speaker 1: finalist this year. You know what if one of those

460
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Speaker 1: coaches gets in very well could I almost feel like,

461
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Speaker 1: if you're going to ban Belichick for a year, you

462
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Speaker 1: can't eatmbaris him further by putting another coach that didn't

463
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Speaker 1: accomplish anything close to what he did in ahead of him.

464
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Speaker 1: It'll be curious to see the class. I think Larry

465
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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald's up this year to get in, So I think

466
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Speaker 1: it's rather safe to say that Larry will be a

467
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Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. I should like to think

468
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Speaker 1: he'd be unanimous. He should in that respect. But if Belichick,

469
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have any skeletons either, Like, it's not like

470
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Speaker 1: they're going to say, well, Larry, I mean, come on,

471
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Speaker 1: look what he did off the field. There's nothing there,

472
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Speaker 1: No spygate with Larry, no issues at all. He was

473
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Speaker 1: a consummate pro for the day he stepped on the field.

474
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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of folks around here will

475
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Speaker 1: be really excited when they see his name as a

476
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Speaker 1: member of the twenty twenty sixth class. I mentioned as

477
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Speaker 1: we went to our first break that I want to

478
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Speaker 1: spread throughout the day a little ask the professor questions

479
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Speaker 1: from our listeners that they've always wanted to ask you

480
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Speaker 1: something or something's on their mind. They're flying in, and

481
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Speaker 1: the very first one we got from Michale was asking

482
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Speaker 1: you what was Michael's favorite card game? We're going deep today,

483
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Speaker 1: We're going deep, I would say, poker. Yeah, yeah, So

484
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Speaker 1: was it easy to like get a poker game together

485
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Speaker 1: on the airplane for those Where where would he was

486
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Speaker 1: it in the locker? Where where would he typically play

487
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Speaker 1: black jack? He didn't care, He didn't care. Is he

488
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Speaker 1: the house he's playing black jacket out the money? Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: Michael's the house and Michael joined for the house. Put

490
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Speaker 1: the visor on the cigar in his mouth, Let's go,

491
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Speaker 1: who wants to play?

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Speaker 4: And and uh and and the beauty of this was that,

493
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Speaker 4: you know, we'd be flying back from maybe the West

494
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Speaker 4: Coast in the middle of the night, getting back to Chicago,

495
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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden there's a you know, you

496
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Speaker 4: have a blackjack game on the plane for like small money,

497
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't care what you bet it. You could

499
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Speaker 1: bet one buck or you could bet one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: You know.

501
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Speaker 4: It was just the competitive nature of his mindset that

502
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Speaker 4: he just wanted to be in the game. And it

503
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Speaker 4: was always fun. It's because there was some nice that

504
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Speaker 4: you know, we would we would beat the house. And

505
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Speaker 4: if we beat the house on the airplane, the next

506
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Speaker 4: day in practice, we had to stay at say, after

507
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Speaker 4: practice to finish.

508
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Speaker 1: Up the game. Also again, really, Michael doesn't take he

509
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Speaker 1: didn't take losing kindly. No, I don't see you sitting

510
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Speaker 1: in on a poker game, though. Did you ever.

511
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Speaker 4: Protest a poker I would play a little black jacke

512
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Speaker 4: every once. Really, you know, you know I'm only betting

513
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Speaker 4: a buck.

514
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you are not a gambler by

515
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Speaker 1: any sense of the word. But you know, I was

516
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Speaker 1: a pretty good blackjack player. Really, I mean a bucket

517
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Speaker 1: the time. It's going to take you a while.

518
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Speaker 4: To you know, it didn't matter. It was just for

519
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Speaker 4: the fun. Yeah, you know, team, team, chromaraderie, you know.

520
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Speaker 4: And you're flying back from LA to Chicago in the

521
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Speaker 4: middle of the night. Most guys are not going to

522
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Speaker 4: sleep because she still wound up, you know, from from

523
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Speaker 4: the game that you just played, and it was it

524
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Speaker 4: was something to do to pass the time on a

525
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Speaker 4: long plane trip back home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm not surprised. If you're gonna ask me

527
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Speaker 1: what's Michael's favorite game, it's going to be a gambling

528
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Speaker 1: game of some kind. Yeah, And I'm a I love poker.

529
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Speaker 1: I got my Wednesday night game tonight that I'm always

530
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Speaker 1: excited to play.

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Speaker 4: So that's I remember one night we had a very

532
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Speaker 4: good night against the house, and you know, and so

533
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Speaker 4: when you when you beat the house, the house is Michael, Michael,

534
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Speaker 4: you know, so and so you know, everybody's kind of

535
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Speaker 4: talking and and and having a good time and and

536
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Speaker 4: and giving him a lot of you know stuff, and

537
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Speaker 4: he said, you know, all of a sudden, you're coming

538
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Speaker 4: to practice, says, nobody is leaving after practice tables set

539
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Speaker 4: up in the corner, set up in the in the

540
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Speaker 4: in in in the locker room with plenty of food

541
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Speaker 4: coming in.

542
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Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Uh that that just speaks to the he

543
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: just refuses to lose. He has to get the last word,

544
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Speaker 1: has to make sure that all the dust clears. Michael's

545
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Speaker 1: ahead of the game. Thankfully, Chauncey Billups is nowhere near these. Uh,

546
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Speaker 1: very good point. Thank you. That that might have been

547
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Speaker 1: how Chancey got started. Maybe he was about it. Wait

548
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Speaker 1: a minute, I love this. I get to gamble. This

549
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Speaker 1: is great. Another one for you, double T. Who is

550
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Speaker 1: the hardest player to guard during your career and who

551
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Speaker 1: was a relatively star player that you felt like was

552
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Speaker 1: the easiest to guard, or maybe someone whose game you

553
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Speaker 1: felt you could solve anything come to mind on either

554
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Speaker 1: side of.

555
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Speaker 4: The hardest person for sure was the guy that we

556
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Speaker 4: just got through talking about number twenty three.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, when you were on the necks and he's

558
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Speaker 1: on the balls. Yeah.

559
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Speaker 4: And I remember the his rookie season and we played

560
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Speaker 4: him in the exhibition game, and I knew how how

561
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Speaker 4: good he was, but I didn't know how great he was.

562
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Speaker 4: And he caught the ball in the wing and Truck

563
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Speaker 4: Robinson is a is a is a pretty strong guy,

564
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Speaker 4: and he went to the basket and he kind of

565
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Speaker 4: got hit by truck, and Truck gave him a pretty

566
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Speaker 4: good blowing. He still found a way to finish, and

567
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, this is different. And I think

568
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Speaker 4: in his third in the league, he had come off

569
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Speaker 4: the foot injury or something where he was not able

570
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Speaker 4: to play a lot in the second year, and it

571
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Speaker 4: was it was our home opener and he came into

572
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Speaker 4: the garden.

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Speaker 1: We had come from the true or the night before, and.

574
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Speaker 4: At that time, you know, the game was a little

575
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Speaker 4: bit more physical where you could, you know, you could

576
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Speaker 4: hit guys and knock him around, and Charles Oakley and

577
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Speaker 4: Patrick Ewan, I mean they were pounding him time and

578
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: time again, and he still scored fifty points in a

579
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Speaker 4: close game. So after the game was over, you know,

580
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 4: the media comes in and you have questions about, you know,

581
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Speaker 4: what do you think of Michael Jordan as a player,

582
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: and he just some guys might say, well, you know,

583
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: he gets a lot of calls. You know, he's a

584
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: great player, but you know he's not all that. So

585
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Speaker 4: the guy asked me the same question. I said, you

586
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Speaker 4: want my honest answer, and he said yes. I said, tonight,

587
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Speaker 4: I just saw the greatest basketball player I've ever seen.

588
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: Guess it's really I said. I said, there was a

589
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 4: lot of great guys I played against, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird,

590
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: Doctor J Kareem Map, Duo Jabbar, just to name a few.

591
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: I said, but I have never seen that. That's different.

592
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Speaker 4: And to me, you know, he is the greatest basketball

593
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Speaker 4: player that I've ember witness.

594
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get a whole lot of fight back

595
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: on that one, except for the Lebron crowd. Back to

596
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: the question that does anybody on the other side jump

597
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Speaker 1: out of you? Is like easy, Like you saw, You're

598
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: up against this guy and you're going, this is a

599
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: guy I can always get my shot against. This guy

600
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: cannot stop me. I can't believe I get to play

601
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: against this guy again. Anybody jump out at you? Well,

602
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: it all depends on the system that you're running. And no,

603
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: and there's some guys who are really good offensively and

604
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: they don't pay a lot of attention on the defensive end,

605
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: and they're not used to fighting through you know, different

606
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: screens or that can be set on them and more

607
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: times than that. When you play against a great offensive player,

608
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: you know you want to force him to play defense

609
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: as much as you can, and hopefully that you have

610
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: those big guys who can set screens that can continue

611
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: to pound him and wear him down, so whether he

612
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Speaker 1: doesn't have the energy and the strength to finish off

613
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Speaker 1: the game the right way offensively. And there are a

614
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Speaker 1: number of guys like that.

615
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Speaker 4: I just don't have anyone off the top of my head,

616
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Speaker 4: I can say who's the guy that I like to

617
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: go against the most, But you always try to make

618
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Speaker 4: that top offensive player.

619
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Speaker 1: Play defense as well. Yeah, make it as hard as possible.

620
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Speaker 1: Make as hard as possible both ends of the year.

621
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Speaker 1: Keep the questions rolling in for the professor. We'll weave

622
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Speaker 1: those in throughout the show. When we come back, I

623
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Speaker 1: like to chat briefly about the Gophers college football schedule

624
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: was released, what that looks like. And my favorite team

625
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: has a very daunting back to back spot in their schedule.

626
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Speaker 1: I want to dive into that for a moment as well.

627
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Speaker 1: You're in the zone on a Wednesday on nine to noon.

628
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Speaker 1: It's Tucker, it's Sinnecon, it's Blakemore and we're back after these.

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Speaker 3: Calling out Wolves fans.

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Speaker 1: We're nine to noon on the fan in the Zone. Addition,

636
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Speaker 1: today double t and Sinecon hanging out until noon today.

637
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Speaker 1: The Big Ten football schedules were released yesterday, Trent and

638
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Speaker 1: uh your Gopher schedule now we know, well I think

639
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: we already knew who they were playing, but now we

640
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: know when they're playing. And your Golden Gophers actually have

641
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: a difficult non conference game in the mix. This year.

642
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: They had Mississippi State. You know, you bring an SEC

643
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: team coming to town. But they do have all three

644
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: of their non conference games are at home at Huntingdon

645
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Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. They'll open the Big Ten season at Washington.

646
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Speaker 1: That's never easy, that's true, going out and playing the Huskies,

647
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: and you get to come back and play Michigan a

648
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: little brown jug right off the bat in UH, I

649
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: guess maybe the first weekend in October. Then at Purdue

650
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: and then a bye. Then it starts to get a

651
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: little meaty. Iowa is at home for Floyd, then at Indiana,

652
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: get to play the Hoosiers, UCLA at home, at Penn State,

653
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Northwestern at home, and at Wisconsin. So you're your road

654
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: games are at Washington, Purdue, Indiana, Penn State, Wisconsin.

655
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

656
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's a little tricky. It's a little meaty,

657
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: but not too scary. Yeah, there's no Ohio State, there's

658
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: no Oregon this year for the Gophers, and you close

659
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: at you know the acts. This year's at Wisconsin Anderson.

660
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: Not too scary. Yeah, No, I think it's you look

661
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: at it and you go okay. I mean again, there's

662
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: so much we don't know about this team and this

663
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: roster right now, but we know the quarterback's back. There's

664
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: some stability there, but there's not a grind where you go, man,

665
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: this two or three weeks.

666
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: Indiana, you gotta pay Michigan o house state back to back.

667
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: You saw that, Uh yeah, I saw that.

668
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Indiana they have three bunnies to start and

669
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: then they got Northwestern at home and at Rutgers. So

670
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, just start the season in October when five.

671
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: And oh, then they go to Nebraska and as you said,

672
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: they welcome Ohio State to Bloomington, and the very next

673
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: week have to go to Michigan. Yeah, that's tricky. And

674
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: then and then the Gophers.

675
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: And we don't know what Michigan is going to look

676
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: like now with all the stuff that took place this

677
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: past year at the end of the season.

678
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: New coaching staff. I mean, we know they'll be chock

679
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: full of five star recruits. It's what they do.

680
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: How many guys would leave Michigan based on this falloff situation, I.

681
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: Don't know how many they lost. It's a good question.

682
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: But I know the Utah guy that take over the job,

683
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: he brought a bunch of guys with him that had

684
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: moved over. Gophers get Indiana after that two game grinder

685
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: of Ohio State Michigan, So I don't know, it might

686
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: be a good time to play Indiana. Maybe a you know,

687
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: they take them a little lightly, they go that was

688
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: a tough grind. Now we get the Gophers. It just

689
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: might be a might be a look ahead kind of

690
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: thing for the Gophers opportunity because Indiana has a buye

691
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: after the Gopher game, so they might just be going, ah,

692
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: the Gophers in a bye before USC comes to town.

693
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: So let's let's take her foot off the gas just

694
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe PJ squad as a chip in a

695
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: chair in Bloomington. Yeah, my my daughter let me know

696
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: the text she's oversees this semester. But she let me

697
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: know that her dad's weekend next fall is the last

698
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: last weekend in September for her sorority. And so I look,

699
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: that's the Northwestern game. Okay, now you're making the trip down, right,

700
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: I'll make the trip down. I doubt I'll go to

701
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: the game. It's a whole different world down there, trying

702
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: to go in Indiana football game as it ever has been.

703
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: But I immediately this morning did check for tickets. No,

704
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: I checked for a hotel rooms. Oh, she was trying

705
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: to get her and takes out will sale. Yet they're

706
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: probably on sale. I'm you know, I don't feel a

707
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: need to go to the game. It's it's more about

708
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: just being with my daughter, hanging out, party in.

709
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: That kind of thing. Is graduating next year, Yeah, she'll

710
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: be a senior next year. Yeah, it's it's coming to

711
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: your last trip to IU. It is until graduation. The

712
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: well is my mind. And I know it's not just Indiana.

713
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's pretty much everywhere these days. But I

714
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: jumped on hotels dot Com this morning to go, Okay,

715
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: I better at least, you know, get a hotel for

716
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: that weekend.

717
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: And obviously it's a home game weekend. Was told basically

718
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: the entire Greek system in Indiana, it's it's parents weekend

719
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: that weekend, so here you go. It's unbelievable. You want

720
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: to stay at like a Super eight, eight hundred dollars

721
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: a night. That's like the cheapest, right, it's a Super eight.

722
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: You want a holiday in thirteen hundred dollars a night. Really,

723
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable what they get away with. And it's not

724
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: just this year. I had the same experience last year,

725
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: even though you know Indiana had a good season. I

726
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: tell you this though, I've my kids have now been

727
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: going to school there for what six seven years. First

728
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: few years, when I would go down in September for Parents' weekend,

729
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: Dad's weekend, could get a room for a couple hundred

730
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: bucks a night. It's that's what you get, right when

731
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: it's suddenly now the high hottest team in town. Yeah,

732
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: so I'll be taking a second job between now and

733
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: then to just make sure I can handle, uh, the

734
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: weekend in Bloomington in late September. Yeah.

735
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 4: No, success, you know, allows people to to make some

736
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 4: different decisions on how to run their business.

737
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yes, I did. I did find a

738
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: comfort in that was at least I think it was

739
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: about four hundred a night. So but still you're in

740
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: a comfort you know, you're in a little more seasons

741
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 1: or for a graduate, which is kind of a nicer

742
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: place there, like in most college campuses if they had

743
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: four seasons there. Yeah, they don't have a four season.

744
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: The best place to stay in Bilmington nor the best

745
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: place to stay in Bloomington always, and I always stay

746
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: there if I can. Is that at the Union. The

747
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: student Union has a hotel, and at the Biddle Hotel

748
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: it's awesome and it's inexpensive. Typically I checked, of course

749
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: it's sold out. Yeah, I'm sure I should have thought

750
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: about it. I knew the schedules were coming out tomorrow.

751
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: It's usually that last weekend in September. I should have

752
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: been kind of like when the packer schedule comes out,

753
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: you want to jump on the hotels right away. That's

754
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: kind of what it is for Bloomington. Now, all right,

755
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: as the ask the professor questions are rolling in, we

756
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: have several related to your sudden newfound interest in hockey.

757
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: Oh okay, one, this is Scott in Minneapolis. How were

758
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: your boys introduced to hockey and did they take to

759
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: it immediately? That's S. D. J. Scott in Saint Anthony.

760
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that I remember asking you this. I'm

761
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: sure I did back in the day. But your boys

762
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: are now teenagers and of almost ones in high school ones,

763
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, not quite, but they love the game. They're talented.

764
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: How did it all happen back in the day.

765
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 4: Well, you know family members who were hockey players and

766
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: hockey participants. So I have a I'm a nephew that

767
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 4: also played you know, association hockey, and then he played

768
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: junior high and they played high schools.

769
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: High school hockey was at Maple.

770
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 4: Grove, and then he went on to play juniors for

771
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: maybe a year or so, and then he finished out

772
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: his his hockey career at GUS Davis. And so when

773
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 4: my so, when my kids could set up, you know,

774
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: I tried to put a basketball in their hands. I

775
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: would think so, but they had hockey sticks in their hands.

776
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: And so by the time they were three or four

777
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: or five or so, I found myself driving down to

778
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: Gus Davis every other weekend to watch hockey and then

779
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: we put skates on them in a bout the age

780
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: of three, and they just fell in love with the

781
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: game from there. So I would say it was that,

782
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: you know, having family members who participated in the game

783
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 4: of hockey, and I led my kids to that sport.

784
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: And I'm very happy that they found something that they

785
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: like to do, because a lot of parents sometime they

786
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 4: want to steer their kids where they want to go.

787
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: But I think when you when you try to dictate

788
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: the outcome of what you want your kids to do,

789
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: it can lead to they may not like it as much.

790
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they feel pressure, they feel and they can figure

791
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: right now is because I'm you know, I'm doing this

792
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: for somebody else more so than myself.

793
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: And I'm just thrielled now that I got a chance,

794
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: you know, to learn about a new game as well.

795
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: And you know, hockey is a beautiful sport. It's fun

796
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: to watch. And you've talked over the years before you

797
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: had kids. When we were doing the show how you

798
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: when you're in New York. You love the Rangers and

799
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: Mark Messier, and you appreciated the game of hockey, and

800
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 4: you watch games, but you never really followed the game

801
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: closely and understood the game really until your kids were playing, correct.

802
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: I thought.

803
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: I think my my real first introduction into taking a

804
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 4: look at hockey was when I was in college. Oh

805
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: and you know, the Groper team was very good back then.

806
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: You know, Aaron Brden, Neil Briden, you know, they were

807
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: around it at the time. But I became very good

808
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: friends with Herb Brooks and so. And at that time,

809
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: you know, you had the pavilion that had the hockey

810
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: rink and he had whims arenas. So we pretty much

811
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: kind of shared the hallway to the same training room.

812
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: And there were a lot of days, you know, I

813
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: got a chance to sit down and talk to Herb

814
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 4: Brooks and so he and I became pretty good friends.

815
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 4: And ironically, when I got drafted to the New York Knixt,

816
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: Herb Brooks went to coach the New York Rangers, so

817
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: we were kind of on the same path. So I

818
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: would go and watch the Rangers play, and at that time,

819
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: the Knicks people would ask me, why do you want

820
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: to go to a Rangers game? And while all of

821
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: a sudden you're interested in hockey, I say, because you

822
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: know that the head coach and I have a relationship,

823
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: and so I had a chance to watch Herbie when

824
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: he was with the New York Rangers. So that was

825
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: kind of my real first introduction and to taking a

826
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: deep dive into what hockey was all about.

827
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: So the timing when you were here at the U

828
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: coincided with when he took over the Olympic team. So

829
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: take me back, like, do you remember going back to

830
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty knowing he got the gig and he's coaching

831
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: the team, and what any conversations you had as he

832
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: was getting ready to take on that job and then

833
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: of course what happened afterwards changed everything. What are your

834
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: recollections around that time.

835
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I didn't have a chance to talk

836
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: to him about you know, about the eighty Olympics, but

837
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: you know, just being around him and kind of picking

838
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 4: his his brain about how he constructed things and how

839
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: he put things together, and how he would challenge, you know,

840
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 4: players in certain ways, and you know he would play

841
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 4: my games in a and not a in a negative way,

842
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: but to get a reaction out of you and to me,

843
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 4: I've always felt like that great coaches would find a

844
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: way to bring a collection of people together and get

845
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: them on the same page. And I thought that that

846
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: Herb Brooks did that as well as anybody.

847
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard to argue. Just what a time to kind

848
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: of get to know him and be around him with me.

849
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: I mean, he and I were sitting chatting, talking, you know,

850
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: and playing for Jim Dutchtt was great as well, but

851
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 4: you know, I was in the air with Bobby Knight

852
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: and some of those great you know, college basketball coaches,

853
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: you know. But to have a guy outside of your

854
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: sport kind of speak the same language was a benefit

855
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: to me as well.

856
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: While we're on the subject, uh seven six three text

857
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: asks why you chose Minnesota instead of trying to play

858
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: for Johnny or in Michigan. Well, so you were obviously

859
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: a Flint guy, you know.

860
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: You know, Johnny Orr recruited me very heavily, and he said,

861
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Speaker 4: I would love to have you, he says, but we

862
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 4: have the big Tan freshman of the year coming back

863
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: in Mike McGee, he says, And if you want to

864
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Speaker 4: come to Michigan, and fight Mike McGee for playing time.

865
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Speaker 1: He said, we'll sign you tomorrow.

866
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Speaker 4: But I just felt like when I took my recruiting

867
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: trip in October in nineteen seventy seven, and that this

868
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: was the for me. But also on that day, Minnesota

869
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 4: knocked off the number one team in the country, the

870
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Speaker 4: Michigan Wolverines, So that made my decision a little bit

871
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Speaker 4: easier telling you something. But also Jesse Evans at that

872
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: time was an assistant coach with the team, and I

873
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: had known him since I was a junior high student

874
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: back in Flint, Michigan, because he was a JV coach

875
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Speaker 4: at my high school before he came to join GYM.

876
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Speaker 1: Gym dup your staff.

877
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Speaker 4: But I just had a good feeling, a good vibe

878
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: on my recruiting trip weekend. And also I wanted to

879
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: be partly the Big Ten Conference. But Minneapolis offered a

880
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: different type of atmosphere compared to some of the other

881
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 4: Big Ten cities.

882
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: It was a metropolitan area.

883
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a part of the biggest city,

884
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: and I knew they had a great fan base and

885
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: gop of basketball was something that was special, you know,

886
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: to this community, and I wanted to be a part

887
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 4: of that.

888
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Speaker 1: We're all thankfully you made the decision. Where else were

889
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: you was? Were you close anywhere else? Was it kind

890
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: of a slam dog? Oh? They just crushed Michigan. God

891
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: speaking to me, this is where I'm coming.

892
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: It came down to three schools Iowa, Ucla in Minnesota.

893
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so u LA in nineteen seventy seven, they

894
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: were in the middle of a rather epic decade of success,

895
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: unlike well we've ever seen, so you had to be

896
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: attracted to the powder Blue. John Wooden, Louel Sender, Bill Walden,

897
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus Johnson, Yeah, I mean what did you

898
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: go out there? Did you ever make the trip out there?

899
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Speaker 4: You know, when I was fifteen, I went to UCLA's

900
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: basketball camp, and as a kid, the only real college

901
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: that I knew about was Michigan and UCLA. And I

902
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 4: was going to Uclia as a kid, That's where everybody

903
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: wants to go. And I went out on my visit

904
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: for the basketball camp. Jean Bartow was the head coach,

905
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 4: oh right at that time, and I struck up a

906
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: really good relationship with him doing that phase, and by

907
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: the time I became a senior, he left U c

908
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: l A U A B right, and went to go

909
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: to U A B. And a guy named Gary Cunningham

910
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: took over at the time, and he said, well, you know,

911
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: we still would love to have you come to U

912
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: c l A. But I have you know, two you know,

913
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: veteran guards ahead of you right now, and whether you

914
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 4: come in and beat them out or not, they're still

915
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: going to start. And that kind of was like, well,

916
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: you know, that doesn't seem fair to me. You know,

917
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: if if I have.

918
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: A chance to play, let me show you what I

919
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: can do.

920
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: But then Iowa was Iowa. It was was neck and neck.

921
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: Silas McKinney, who also became an assistant coach for them.

922
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings was an assistant coach, you know on the

923
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: Lou Holston host New Holston at the at Iowa at

924
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: the time, and he was very close to almost getting

925
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: me to go to Iowa, you know. But at the

926
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: end of the day, I knew that that jes C.

927
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Speaker 4: Evans in the University of Minnesota was when I went out,

928
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: But I think it was I was closer to going

929
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: to Iowa than I was going to U c l A.

930
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Speaker 1: And you're in the Midwest, you're close to your family.

931
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Speaker 1: You know, they could make the drive if they want.

932
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Speaker 1: It all worked out, the fan has learned it all

933
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 1: worked out as your uh pretty face, as a hanging

934
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Speaker 1: in the rafts.

935
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Speaker 4: You know, you playing you know, in this environment and

936
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Speaker 4: being a part of this community for as lung as

937
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Speaker 4: I've been and playing in William's Arena, to me, it's

938
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: been it's been second to nine. And when I went

939
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: on and got drafted and went to New York and

940
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: and many of the guys I played with and played against,

941
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: they will always ask me, you know, why why do

942
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 4: you always go back to Minneapolis in the summertime. And

943
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: when I started to do my golf events and some

944
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: of the guys came in to participate to help us

945
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 4: raise funds for some of the kids in the city,

946
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: and they said, now we understand why. Now we understand why.

947
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: And so this is all always felt like home to me.

948
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: This has been a special place for me to be

949
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Speaker 4: a part of. I've made some great friends, have great

950
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: relationship with a lot of people, and you know, I'm

951
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: I'm happy that I you know, that I was able

952
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 4: to be a part of this community for so long,

953
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 4: and that made so many people during that time allowed

954
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Speaker 4: me to be a part of them as well.

955
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Speaker 1: And you were smart enough not to invite all your

956
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: friends to come in February. That's true. You made sure

957
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: it was usually August or September when it was just

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Speaker 1: lovely here. Yeah, we'll pause here at top of the

959
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Speaker 1: hour break some news a new head coach in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and keep your questions coming for

961
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Speaker 1: the professor. Ask the professor brought Shawn Brian kfan text

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963
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Speaker 1: TC head Cheese. Lots more NBA conversation as well, trade

964
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Speaker 1: deadline approaching. What should the Wolves do if anything? Well,

965
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Speaker 1: dive into that too. You're in the zone on a Wednesday.

966
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan,