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Speaker 1: We're out at six o'clock tonight for Vikings programming Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night Football on the fan tonight too. It sure is

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Speaker 1: standing alec Lewis, I'm sure we'll be watching once he

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Speaker 1: finishes crafting whatever he has to craft Vikings related He

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Speaker 1: joins us now via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. When

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Speaker 1: you watch tonight's game, especially when Aaron Rodgers throws two

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Speaker 1: more touchdown passes to Metcalf and the Steelers breeze over

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, are you going to start humming the Harold

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Speaker 1: Melvin the Blue Notes song, the classic old soul song

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Speaker 1: the Love We Lost?

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Speaker 2: Are we going to? Eventually?

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Speaker 1: Alec Lewis threw the day that the quarterback Whisperer, after

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Speaker 1: having obviously real conversations with a rog, chose to go

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Speaker 1: a different route.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the Blue song? You said? I don't

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Speaker 3: know the last time I've played that. It's probably been

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Speaker 3: a minute for me in general. But first, a couple

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Speaker 3: of things come to mind when you ask that question.

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Speaker 3: The first is, I don't know if I'm gonna watch. Partly,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a little footballed out and it's kind

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Speaker 3: of a problem in week seven to be this way

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Speaker 3: I'm at the I'm gonna be at the feast tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: The attitude, the attitude shift will happen at some point.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's the first thing. Second, if Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: throws two touchdowns against the Bengals, considering what I saw

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Speaker 3: from the Bengals and the Viking beat them a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago, I'm not sure how much I'm gonna make

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Speaker 3: of it. And then third, to really answer the question,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so fascinating for me to reflect on

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Speaker 3: the time to spring when that reporting existed, and I

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Speaker 3: mean there was a considered amount of pushback from Vikings

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Speaker 3: fans at the time regarding that reporting and regarding the subject.

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Speaker 3: And the reason that I was and still am as

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Speaker 3: confident in that reporting as I was was because going

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Speaker 3: this route this season was always as bold of a

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Speaker 3: bed as it's as it's kind of seeming right now.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's where my mind is. That with that beginning, very.

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Speaker 1: Well said, that's that's what, that's part of what and

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Speaker 1: that none of that means McCarthy can end up coming

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Speaker 1: back and being great the whole bit, but it is

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Speaker 1: part of the bet, and it makes this whole saga

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Speaker 1: one of the more fascinating to me in recent Vikings

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks history. And they've had some sagas, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question we started the show with,

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Speaker 1: I if I my math has to be checked a lot,

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Speaker 1: and it was awful at the start of the show.

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Speaker 1: But I think I rechecked the calendar. I have this

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Speaker 1: as day number thirty two since McCarthy was hurt. So

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Speaker 1: we're coming up now on five weeks pretty soon. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's clear he's not going to play this week. I

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Speaker 1: think I will let you handle that as well. But

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Speaker 1: are you guys at all getting even a tad suspicious

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Speaker 1: their spidey senses changing a little bit to say, well,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, maybe even given what McCarthy said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent the head coach calling it a

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Speaker 1: unique injury, do we have any worry that this is

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Speaker 1: lingering longer than even problematic tricky high ankle sprain should.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I I'm not there. I mean

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Speaker 3: he it was. It's been interesting. Your mats is correct,

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Speaker 3: it's thirty two days, I believe. Since that Monday morning

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Speaker 3: press congreence after the Falcon game where Kevin O'Connell obviously

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Speaker 3: told us that the high angele spray surface. JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 3: said what I had heard last week in that JJ

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Speaker 3: had multiple opinions on it, and the takeaway was that

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Speaker 3: it was going to be somewhere from two to six weeks.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a long I don't know that's and

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Speaker 3: you feel like high angele sprains typically it's probably more

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Speaker 3: I'm not there yet. I do think there is definitely

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Speaker 3: mechanical aspects and his lower body that they believe have

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Speaker 3: affected the accuracy of his performance. One of the things

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Speaker 3: that I've been a little intrigued by that with is

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't want to completely leave the

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Speaker 1: did note your item via X. Now we have to

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Speaker 1: worry about a Grenard injury? What's this all about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not expect that at all. I saw

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Speaker 3: We'll be interesting to hear more about that, probably either

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Speaker 3: from an injury perspective, with a lot of players who

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Speaker 3: are key contributors, returning to see him pop up today

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Speaker 3: not what you like, but he's played through a lot

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Speaker 3: this year and in past year. So until I hear

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Speaker 3: not going crazy over it.

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Speaker 2: It's a hammy for him.

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Speaker 1: I believe it is what they're saying right a hamstring injury,

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Speaker 2: But we'll see how serious it is. So give me.

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Speaker 1: What you're I guess what you know on the basis

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Speaker 1: having to do some projecting guarding the walking wounded. Which

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Speaker 1: of the injured players do you think are pretty damned

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Speaker 1: likely to be returning to the lineup against the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I should pull up the entire list and just

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Speaker 3: go one by one, and I'll do that right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'll start near the top. Blake Cashman his

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Speaker 3: earlier this week. He's been full both days of practice

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Speaker 3: this week. I would expect Blake Cashman to go. Michael

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Speaker 3: I had a peggy right now, I think Blake Brandell

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Speaker 3: I would I would kind of expect Blake Brandell to

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Speaker 3: the laundry list, but I wouldn't be surprised if Donovan

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Speaker 3: not sure if one week of being limited is going

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Speaker 3: And then Christian derisid do expect to be back to

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Speaker 3: I think that's most of them.

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Speaker 2: There's some other while add one to the list.

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Speaker 1: Who do you believe is likely to be the backup

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Speaker 3: Yeah? For me, my expectation would be Max Roseberg. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it'd be hard to explain why if Jaj McCarthy was

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Speaker 3: I mean I do worry if he is taking hits

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Speaker 3: you know, Max Roseberg is probably doing as much as

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Speaker 3: and then if Carson plays fairly well, uh, and and

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Speaker 3: and my full expectation would be that he would get

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Speaker 3: lead up to the Lions game. That would be the

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Speaker 3: conversation then would be the point at which I think

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Speaker 2: When is Aaron Jones going to be back?

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Speaker 3: Great question. His twenty one day window has not been activated.

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Speaker 2: Logically speaking.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles are struggling offensively.

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Speaker 1: That starts with Barkley, obviously, who was All World a

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Speaker 1: force feeding him, getting him back in rhythm. The Vikings

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Speaker 1: So is this the game that Barkley gets well, is

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Speaker 1: there a way with some of at least some of.

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Speaker 2: The people coming back.

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Speaker 1: Cashman included that the Vikings can get back to their

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Speaker 1: better ways when it comes to handling the run.

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Speaker 2: What do you see there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be pretty insightful in my opinion, kind

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Speaker 3: of if Blake Cashman is indeed back, how much of

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Speaker 3: the run defensive issues kind of hinge on the interior

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Speaker 3: defensive linemen who you know were signed because of their

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Speaker 3: pass rush prowess. I think the Eagles potentially could get

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Speaker 3: back their left guard Landon Dickerson, who's a Pro Bowl player.

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Speaker 3: That should help them. And I really I see the

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Speaker 3: game two ways. One, both teams are going to do

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Speaker 3: their damnedest to stay efficient on early downs to not

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Speaker 3: be in third and long. The Vikings don't have to

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Speaker 3: protect for that long. The Eagles don't want to place

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts and positions to throw the ball, you know,

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Speaker 3: down the field as often as possible. And then the

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Speaker 3: other aspect for me is more just intangibly, Like for me,

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Speaker 3: the Eagles are pretty They're backed into a kind of

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Speaker 3: a corner here. They've been the national narrative subject throughout

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Speaker 3: the NFL. So do you get the Eagles that are

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Speaker 3: trying to prove to people that they are not in disarray,

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Speaker 3: or do you get an Eagles team that is just

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Speaker 3: be kind of a fascinating thing to watch.

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Speaker 1: It's a great subplot. Well, I asked I think I

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I frankly, I think it's the best.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings are not the only one.

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely right. And and the players are more likely

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, I think it was yesterday you isolated a quote

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Speaker 2: Is that part of your concern?

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Speaker 1: Should that be concerning, especially as someone who's out there

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Speaker 2: Are we making too much of.

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Speaker 3: That great question? The most concerning thing to me is

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Speaker 1: And the question is can you can he go through suffer?

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Speaker 3: And that's I mean, that's so so much of what

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Speaker 1: Frankly, I want to ask you, Daniel Jones question too,

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Speaker 1: game plan going to be for the offense on Sunday?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, this Eagles defense is much more susceptible

437
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Speaker 3: than I think like you usually think Eagles defenses are.

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Speaker 3: And that's both against the run. An pat I mean,

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Speaker 3: in their run defense ranks kind of in the bottom

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Speaker 3: third of the n FELL this season. The Giants just

441
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: ran rough shot over them last week. And then you know,

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Speaker 3: one of the most. It's another interesting layer of this

443
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Speaker 3: game is the Eagles did not really really prioritize re

444
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Speaker 3: signing Isaiah Rodgers, the cornerback who has been great for

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Speaker 3: the Vikings, and and the Eagles have serious question marks

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Speaker 3: with their with their cornerback two spot. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: Haveon Mitchell, who I mentioned, they have Cooper Degene who's

448
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Speaker 3: who's a great nickel, but their number two corner is

449
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Speaker 3: a Dori Jackson right now, and he is a guy

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Speaker 3: who can be attacked.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like.

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Speaker 3: If the Vikings and Jordan Mason can do what he's

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Speaker 3: done and and if they can protect and if I honestly,

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Speaker 3: if the game plan is as creative and dialed as

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Speaker 3: it was against Cleveland, I would not be surprised if

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Speaker 3: they're able to move the football tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You guys are in Monticello right for the Beast.

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Speaker 3: You yeah, the whole game, Manacella, don't I mean, Manacello

459
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Speaker 3: is far. I didn't even realize this, but I mean

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Speaker 3: we're reaching hiking fans everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a great location. It's famous. Yeah, that'll

462
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Speaker 1: be fun. I know you're enjoying those Beast football feast appearances.

463
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Speaker 1: We call it the Beast our Friday night show. But

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, as I said, coming on, have fun

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and we will talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man, always fun.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys. Appreciate you, appreciate it. We will talk.

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Speaker 1: So Alec Lewis from the Athletic great stuff. I think,

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Speaker 1: great insight on a number of subjects for one of

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Speaker 1: those guys who's out there each and every day, and beautifully,

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Speaker 1: you know, thankfully we've got three guys that we use,

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Speaker 1: two of them regularly regularly obviously mister Gesling and Kevin Seffert,

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Speaker 1: and I have every bit as much respect for Alec.

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Speaker 1: I think we got good reporters on this beat.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think they don't make stuff up. I think they're

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Speaker 1: not afraid though to analyze, to throw in some things

478
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Speaker 1: with the reporting as well. I think there's some outstanding

479
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Speaker 1: work being done in that regard. Lavelle is going to

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Speaker 1: join in about thirty minutes, no, fifteen minutes or so.

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Speaker 1: We're out at six today for Vikings related programming and

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Speaker 1: Can you find a second source on this story? This

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Speaker 1: comes from I think a legitimate outlet, Access TV, which

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Speaker 1: is a big time music channel. Yeah, they're reporting that

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Speaker 1: Ace Freely is perhaps Freely I think it is? Or

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Speaker 1: is it Frehley f r e h l E y.

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Speaker 1: I was never a big Kiss guy. The legendary tarist

495
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: and founding member of Kiss, is reportedly on life support

496
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Speaker 1: after suffering a brain bleed that may have resulted from

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Speaker 1: a fall in his recording student. Oh no, man, I

498
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Speaker 1: hope that's not true, but that's just awful news. I look.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you hear it over and over again, the

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Speaker 1: most maybe underreported, underrated way of harm for people regardless

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Speaker 1: of age. But I guess, especially as you get older,

502
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Speaker 1: is a fall on your head? You know what I'm

503
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Speaker 1: saying that it's he hears stories like this all of

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Speaker 1: the time. And we'll see if we getting more details

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 2: Before we ran.

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Speaker 5: Watching him, posts reported three minutes ago that he's passed away.

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Speaker 2: And he's passed away. Oh my goodness. At seventy four. Wow,

509
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Speaker 2: that's brutal.

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Speaker 1: So they have even more recent information that did the

511
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Speaker 1: Access TV story. Now. I don't know if they're confirming

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Speaker 1: the cause that was the was from falling in his

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Speaker 1: U recording studio, but brutal news for Kiss fans, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Lava will join us.

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Speaker 1: As I said at the bottom of the hour, Dan, sorry,

517
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Speaker 1: I've not been listening to the entire show as I

518
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Speaker 1: usually do.

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Speaker 2: Whife and I went to Des Moines.

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Speaker 1: To see McCartney Tuesday, Okay, fully expecting sad kind of

521
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Speaker 1: old Paul. Nope, he was fantastic, one of my best

522
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: Confort concerts ever.

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Speaker 2: Highly recommend though.

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Speaker 1: Of course US Bank is not a great venue, which

525
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Speaker 1: is why we made the Des Moines journey.

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Speaker 2: So where would he have performed in Des Moines?

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Speaker 5: Probably where the Iowa Wolves in Iowa Wild Okay, I

528
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Speaker 5: would guess, all right, the Wells Fargo Center there.

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Speaker 2: That would be my guess. How old is Sir Paul?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Who is older Sir Paul or Mick Jagger? It's fun, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fun.

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful. No, we never remember, and although he is

534
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Speaker 2: here a lot, so we probably do it.

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Speaker 5: I think we've done this times a year. Yeah, that's

536
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Speaker 5: probably true, Paul McCartney, and no indication of a.

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Speaker 2: Thaw regarding getting him on tomorrow. I have not been

538
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Speaker 2: given any impros. There's been no there've been no hint.

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Speaker 1: No this has been dropped your way in that and

540
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Speaker 1: you've tried it all, you've done everything. We are called

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Speaker 1: Ringo Starr because you have his We've got him on text,

542
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Speaker 1: you've got his cell number, the text and talk more

543
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: than people know exactly right, Mick Jagger's eighty two, Paul

544
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Speaker 1: McCartney's eighty three, McCartney eighty three, Jagger eighty two, Ringo

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Speaker 1: Star eighty five. I didn't I guess I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: that Ringo's older. Rod Stewart eighty. Keith Richards I am.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can we agree Keith Richards is going to

548
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Speaker 1: outlive all of them? He's eighty one, Oh, he's eighty one, okay,

549
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Speaker 1: but like in dog years, he's one hundred and twenty,

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Speaker 1: and yet he's still alive, still going strong.

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Speaker 2: It's remarkable.

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Speaker 1: What was the joke somebody had about how I think

553
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Speaker 1: he's got is you have two daughters and eventually most

554
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Speaker 1: people assume that that he will outlive them as one

555
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Speaker 1: his own daughters as well, and and whatever wealth they have,

556
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Speaker 1: he will inherit from from them.

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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they always say it's a shame for a parent

559
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Speaker 5: to outlive their children.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it's inevitable. Yeah, Keith Richards, the concert is not

562
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Speaker 5: sold out? Is that correct?

563
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Speaker 1: That's correct? Note do we know how many tickets are

564
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Speaker 1: even sold for that kind of man? I'd say, no idea.

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Speaker 1: I'd say fifty five thousand. And what do we think

566
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Speaker 1: we have? No idea sixty? Maybe what we're going to

567
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Speaker 1: get in there for this is it are people? Because

568
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Speaker 1: we had a text on this the other day that

569
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Speaker 1: people are still bitter about, you know, when it was

570
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Speaker 1: described as the you know, the announcement to end all

571
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Speaker 1: announcements and oh he can't even sell out the number

572
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Speaker 1: of people who are offended by that, you know, description

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Speaker 1: of the announcement. I still don't quite understand. Maybe it's

574
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Speaker 1: because he has been here too much. I don't know

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Speaker 1: was it last Was he here last year?

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Speaker 5: No, it's been a couple of years, a year since

577
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Speaker 5: and he was in Saint Paul last time, wasn't he?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I've never seen him. Sure Paul was

579
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Speaker 1: in Saint Paul, but I could be wrong. The problem

580
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Speaker 1: is they build it like something that's never happened. That's

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Speaker 1: where they got in trouble because we all just guessed, right,

582
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Speaker 1: we all said, well, it's got to be McCartney doesn't

583
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Speaker 1: because it can only be like three people.

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Speaker 2: How many people are Yeah, is it even possible to

585
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Speaker 2: be at this point?

586
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Speaker 5: And if it wasn't one of those three people, it

587
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Speaker 5: would have been even more devastating.

588
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that.

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Speaker 5: Well, the usual capacity sixty six eight at US Bank.

590
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Speaker 5: They obviously don't put any behind the stage, so I

591
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Speaker 5: would guess it's probably high fifty.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to know what he'll get. You know, what

593
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Speaker 1: can he command at this point? And please please let's

594
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Speaker 1: not have it where we are his lowest attended concert

595
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Speaker 1: all all tour like we like what was the case

596
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Speaker 1: with the Beatles.

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Speaker 5: Well, I would say that's the perfect symmetry for his

598
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Speaker 5: career here.

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Speaker 2: That might be true, but.

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Speaker 5: Let's hope he doesn't get arrested or kicked out. Is

601
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Speaker 5: that where you're going? Well, No, I what I I.

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Speaker 1: Do wish is because I wish, I don't know how

603
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Speaker 1: much he The time I saw him was at target Field,

604
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Speaker 1: and I don't remember how much storytelling he did.

605
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Speaker 2: I don't recall that he did a lot, but.

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Speaker 1: I I really do wish and maybe he has told

607
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Speaker 1: it elsewhere at some point or other, but he would

608
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Speaker 1: tell the story about what happened between the Beatles and

609
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Speaker 1: the cops. And McCartney was the guy quoted or viewed

610
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Speaker 1: by the police as he's the guy they that that

611
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Speaker 1: the big shot police commissioner didn't.

612
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Speaker 2: Like he was giving him trouble.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think he complimented Ringo's demeanor and Leon

614
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: George too. So it's just a yeah. But I wonder

615
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Speaker 1: if he's ever again. It's a local angle. Nationally, probably

616
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Speaker 1: most people wouldn't give a bleep, but because we've talked

617
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: so much about that and there's been so much reported

618
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Speaker 1: on a low I would love to hear the backstory,

619
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Speaker 1: you know, how he what he thinks about the whole

620
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: thing now, whether he denies any of it, how much

621
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Speaker 1: fun he could have with it. But I I don't

622
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Speaker 1: know how much storytelling he does, because let's face it,

623
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Speaker 1: he's in the in the mode now where I wouldn't

624
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Speaker 1: be disappointed, I'll be honest with you, I at this

625
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: point I almost would rather go watch him speak to

626
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: a really good interviewer, conversation and an auditorium, yeah, to

627
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: talk about the history of it. Then then then have him,

628
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, sing Yesterday again, although that probably wouldn't be

629
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: a bad bonus. Maybe an acoustic Yesterday from the stage

630
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Speaker 1: after he answers all the questions during the conversation. Seriously,

631
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Speaker 1: great outstanding, wouldn't it, Yes, it would. Why is the

632
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Speaker 1: Bank the worst? Why is the uh Bank consider the

633
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: worst concert venue in the cities? Is it still the acoustics? Yeah,

634
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. It's just because it's so big.

635
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: It's so big, it's got glass everywhere. It's in closed,

636
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: so the noise just bounces all over the place. It's

637
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: it's not set up great, okay, And I think that's

638
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: a little overwrought. I think we get that to me

639
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: is people starts feeding it, and that to me is

640
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Saint Louis is a great baseball town.

641
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: You get tired of.

642
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: It, well, you just people start saying it, so then

643
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: you start thinking it.

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00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you start you start believing it, and then you

645
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: go there and you got.

646
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Speaker 5: Maybe this does suck, But you're also like, yeah, but

647
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: it's not everything can be the Dakota or the.

648
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Speaker 2: Let's remember, I mean, the Metrodome was awful.

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Speaker 1: His I gotta believe this building's better acoustically than the

650
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Speaker 1: Metro Maybe Metrodome was hideous, right, because nothing was updated there.

651
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Everything was on the cheap and the Metrodome, everything including

652
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Speaker 1: the baseball team, they handled it well a couple of times,

653
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Speaker 1: but I mean I don't think there are everything's on

654
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Speaker 1: the cheap at and they tweaked it and they've messed

655
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Speaker 1: with it, and I've been to a couple of concerts there.

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Speaker 5: I think it's fine. I'm not going to be a snob.

657
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Speaker 5: If I'm not going, it's not going to be because

658
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Speaker 5: of that.

659
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Speaker 3: Right.

660
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Speaker 1: If I want to see McCartney, I don't care where

661
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: it is, you know, I really I don't buy the

662
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: notion that if that, if that's what's dictating your decision,

663
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Speaker 1: then I don't think you're that.

664
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Speaker 2: Just just say, hey, I just want to go. I'm

665
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: not going to mood for a concert.

666
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I don't think he's coming to play the

667
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 5: grand stand at the State Fair like.

668
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Speaker 1: I'd love to see him at the final line. Of course,

669
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Speaker 1: it'd be great. Do we still have concerts at the

670
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Speaker 1: Zoo or do they give that up? Remember the concerts

671
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: at the THEO. I do remember, it's tremendous. Yeah, I

672
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: don't remember. I think they stopped. I'm not sure.

673
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Speaker 2: All right, bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 5: Pause and we'll chat with Lavelle a day early because

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Speaker 5: with Gophers the Gophers hosting Nebraska tomorrow night, the pregame

676
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Speaker 5: show will start at five o'clock, so we only have

677
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Speaker 5: a two hour tour tomorrow, So lavel we'll join us.

678
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Speaker 2: Next final segment of the show.

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Speaker 5: The Show RAP presented as always by our friends at

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681
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Speaker 2: It's the Bumper to Bumper Show RAP.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank our very special guests today. Alec

683
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: Lewis joined what about four forty five ish or so.

684
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Speaker 1: We also had the inbox opened at four o'clock. Several

685
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Speaker 1: outstanding contributions there. And we're out early because we got

686
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Speaker 1: Vikings programming and then Thursday night football right here on

687
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Speaker 1: the fan this evening tomorrow, a two hour show will

688
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Speaker 1: include picks with Kirby as well as.

689
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Speaker 2: What else do we have them? Marrow Ben guestling four

690
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: thirty regular time. We're moving away. That's the plan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, maybe like a quick five minutes from

692
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Speaker 1: you from the press box, we could do that. You

693
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: got too much stuff going? Is it too busy for pregame?

694
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Speaker 1: I mean we don't have to. I'm just I'm off.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm willing, i'd I'd love to have it

696
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: for like a quick five minute hit set the scene.

697
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: Big ball game for both clubs, critical game for the golfs,

698
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Speaker 1: Big game. Nebraska thinks they've like to think they've turned

699
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Speaker 1: the corner. We'll see And you say, the latest forecast

700
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Speaker 1: is for not for rain, so should be already be

701
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Speaker 1: at dry field. Our next guest might be at the

702
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Speaker 1: ball game tomorrow, is that right?

703
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Speaker 2: Lovell? You will be at the Original Bank at Huntington

704
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Speaker 2: Bank Stadium.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to cover it, but I'm thinking about

706
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Speaker 4: going to the game because I haven't I haven't seen

707
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Speaker 4: a golphers playing person this year, so I kind of

708
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Speaker 4: like to kind of see for myself what's going on

709
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: there because I've been watching other games or been elsewhere

710
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: when they've been playing. Yeah, so I haven't seen a

711
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: lot of golf for football this year. I'd like to

712
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 4: kind of try my own conclusions of how this operation looks.

713
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: It sounds like the offensive line needs work, and it

714
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 4: sounds like there's no running game. And the Gophers going

715
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Speaker 4: into Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not stopping to run either, just like the Vikings.

717
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Speaker 1: They've had some issues with that. You're Illinois club boy.

718
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Speaker 1: They really look good against Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, they really coughed up along in

720
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Speaker 4: the first half with a lot of self inflicted damage.

721
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Speaker 4: And even then, you've got to play mistake free football

722
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Speaker 4: and have some things go your way when you're playing

723
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Speaker 4: the number one team in the nation, you know, and

724
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: the game is pretty much over halftime because of the

725
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: couple of picks they through. I think they put the

726
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: ball on the ground some Coffee counties. It was just

727
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Speaker 4: real sloppy man. So Illinois has a bye week this

728
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Speaker 4: week to get their act together. There's a chance, I

729
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 4: mean they cleaned Nebraska next week. Actually, there's a chance

730
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Speaker 4: they could run the table and finish ten and two,

731
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 4: which would be pretty decent. But the two losses were

732
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 4: kind of embarrassing. The House State game in the absolute

733
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Speaker 4: the womper stopping that, the who was just put on them.

734
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Speaker 1: That's very, very true. All right, where do you want

735
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Speaker 1: to start? What did you write about? What started being

736
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Speaker 1: dot com? Most recently?

737
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Speaker 2: Was it hockey in hockey?

738
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Speaker 4: Jamie Nelson, him Cato?

739
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Speaker 2: Didn't you write a wild column?

740
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Speaker 3: Leads?

741
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Speaker 2: I mean, have you become mister puck all of a sudden?

742
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Speaker 2: What's going on here?

743
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: I wrote three wild columns last week. It just happened

744
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: on the place there where I kind of did a

745
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: season preview, my expectations, and then I wrote about uh,

746
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: I wrote about cover one of the games, and I

747
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: wrote about the Caprice off, you know, being the latest

748
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Speaker 4: Minnesota athlete to be the highest paid player in his sport.

749
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Speaker 4: So that was the one that ran on Monday.

750
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Speaker 2: You or something? Is there something? I mean, does he

751
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Speaker 2: know something that.

752
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Speaker 1: Put you, you know, in a spot where you fairl

753
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Speaker 1: I better keep writing hockey columns or what.

754
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Speaker 4: I try to stay away from falling this because I

755
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: don't know what movie he's in from day today. And

756
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, he gets like he takes it as an

757
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: insult if you waiving him without actually walking up to

758
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Speaker 4: him and saying, Hey, what's going on, Kevin? How you

759
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: doing today? He has to like be verbally acknowledged of

760
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: his existence instead of like nonverbal communication like through it

761
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: one door or something. He's got this a romotherapy thing.

762
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: You know, he's going all this stuff and money's in

763
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Speaker 4: the middle of a mid life crisis.

764
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Speaker 3: I just silent.

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Speaker 1: That's very, very possible. All right, let's talk Vikings. I

766
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: think the suspense is being eliminated, right I. You know,

767
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: we we've had there was the ongoing debate, well who

768
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: should start and who is going to start? But I felt,

769
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: as of two days ago, based on what the head

770
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Speaker 1: coach was saying, and what the quarterback, what JJ McCarthy

771
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Speaker 1: was saying that and even what had happened most recent

772
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Speaker 1: game with Wentz down the stretch, that Wentz was going

773
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Speaker 1: to start the game. And now I don't even think

774
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Speaker 1: it's a matter of whether the head coach wants to

775
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: make it, you know, even if he wanted to make

776
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Speaker 1: a decision on the basis of personnel, I think that

777
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: option is being taken away. It's clear to me he

778
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: was McCarthy was limited again in practice today. This is

779
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: Wednesday already, so I think it's it's done. No matter

780
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: what people think on who should start, any of the

781
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: suspenses being taken away by the fact that clearly McCarthy's

782
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: not ready.

783
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if McCarthy was healthy, I think you got to

784
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 4: start him. I mean, you can't get to where you

785
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: want to go until JJ gets these some starts under

786
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: his belt and get some experience, and he gives you

787
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: a greater a greater idea of what he's going to

788
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 4: bring to the table. The man, you know, sat out

789
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: all last year, and you know he's played what two

790
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 4: games this year, so we still know the Viking Shower

791
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: what they have, you know. So but yesterday he did

792
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: it for me when he said Zanko wasn't one hundred percent.

793
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: He would like to be out there, but you know

794
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 4: his body has to cooperate with him. So I said,

795
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 4: now he's not going to play. Now, I'm curious to

796
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 4: see how things play out Sunday with Wins because apparently

797
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: his left show is pretty sore still. And if he

798
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 4: gets hit on the right spot, does that mean it's

799
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 4: Max Brosemer time?

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Speaker 1: You know, does because you're not gonna we just had

801
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: we just were talking to Alec. If you can't, really

802
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: I think have McCarthy as your backup in uniform, because

803
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: then it not well if he's good enough to be

804
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: your backup in emergency situation, why not start him? So

805
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: my gut tells me that Guardi's guy Broser is gonna

806
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: be the backup QB to and you know and injured

807
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz on Sunday. I really believe that's how it's

808
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: gonna go. I don't even think it's a controversial take

809
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: at this point.

810
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.

811
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: But it's gonna have everybody, all the golfer fans are

812
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: route if if Bros Gets a chance to uh direct

813
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: show off his hold, you know, and throw some lasers

814
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: across the field. I I mean, I'm a little curious too,

815
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: but see if he is in such a weird I

816
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: keep sinking my last year Dan because going into the

817
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: season there were so many doubts about say I'm darn

818
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: on and we mispread that one because they d have

819
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: won their like fourteen games. So this year we all

820
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: like dounted down to like, okay, eleven or twelve wins.

821
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: JJ's the rookie. But they have a good defense and

822
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 4: have a great offensive line. Well, there are the injuries

823
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: on both sides. Uh offensive line just is starting to

824
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: get healthy. Defense made if this Grenard thing is real,

825
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 4: you got a hamstring? Yes, you know that means they're

826
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 4: two top sack guys from a year ago won't be

827
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: in the lineup against the Philadelphia Eagles team that is

828
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: hungry to re establish his ground game. I looked about

829
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 4: the write of call for Sunday, you know, saying, you know,

830
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: releases on the way because play cash when they're leading

831
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: tackles from a year ago is healthy to try to stop,

832
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 4: you know, the Eagles from rediscovering their run offense. But now,

833
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: you know, looking at that going now, and this may

834
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: be one of those years where you're not going to

835
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: get a clear idea what JJ McCarthy can do for

836
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: a while, and you're gonna have so many injuries that

837
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: you're not going to have your best team on the field.

838
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I you know, we kidded with Alec because

839
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: Alec was going through the litany of injuries, which players

840
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: might be ready to come back for the Vikings, which

841
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: might still be sidelined, and he he he was reminding

842
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: us as he did that he kind of gave us

843
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: a number of the the injury issues challenges that the

844
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: Eagles are facing. And I very sarcastically said, oh wait

845
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: a minute. Wait, So you're telling me we're not the

846
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: only team that ever ever gets significant injuries, And I

847
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: do think it's a story that has been overplayed in

848
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: this town.

849
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: I'm not saying these injuries don't matter. They do.

850
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: Obviously, these are key players. And I'm not saying every

851
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: team has equal luck when it comes to injuries. But

852
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm guarantee you this, If we spend as much time

853
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: category cataloging the injuries of a bunch of teams in

854
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: this league, including good teams, we would be shocked to

855
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: find out that's the nature of this business anymore, that

856
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: we're not the only team deprived of this player or

857
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: that player or had to rise above it. The fact

858
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: is there are a number of teams that have lost

859
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: significant talent for extended periods of time. And that's why,

860
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: to me, we got to stop feeling sorry for ourselves.

861
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: I understand that this is a sport. In know if

863
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen this year, but as many as three

864
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: hundred players end up on IR during the season. Three

865
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 4: hundred an incredible number. So everybody's trying to compensate for something. Uh,

866
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: when you're playing and you have to celebrate it when

867
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 4: you guys, when you get guys healthy, but improvise and overcome.

868
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: It should be a mantra that is spoken in every

869
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Speaker 4: NFL training room because it's gonna be next man up.

870
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 4: It's gonna be you know, people filling it for others,

871
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: and you're you're hoping on being able to coach up

872
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: players to step in. You open the scheme in a

873
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 4: way that you know covers up your weaknesses, and you

874
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: have to win. And you know, if the games are ugly,

875
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: don't don't worry about it. If you win is a win.

876
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: You celebrate these wins in the NFL where reguardless of

877
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 4: how pathetically pleasing they are, we you know, us media jackals.

878
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 4: You know, we'll like to complain about Yeah, but the

879
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: only one by three didn't cover Uh they needed a

880
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 4: late driving the fourth quarter. That's a red flag. Yeah,

881
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna write those stories. But the reality is, you know,

882
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: most of these games are being set up bout with

883
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 4: one score or eight points or stuff like that, so

884
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to fire out a ways to win

885
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: with without the without the best you have.

886
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just sort of the way this

887
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: thing works.

888
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: A couple of people are demanding that I ask you

889
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: what time your apology to Chicago Bears might be?

890
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: What I have to apologize for once three in a

891
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: row for mike yioh.

892
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: They got a chance to go what four and two?

893
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 4: Yeh, But they're five and a half point favorites against

894
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 4: the Saint Sunday.

895
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: They gotta, they gotta, they got a gimme. They got

896
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 2: a loser proof game on Sunday.

897
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: Well, hold on here, hold on with loser proof. I'm

898
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: not ready to go there. Okay, you know the Bears

899
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 4: are still trying to fire off. They have a left tackle,

900
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: yet they got a couple of guys injured. DJ Moore

901
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: had to spend the night in the Washington hospital. Though

902
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: they have a grind monitor for injury. You know, they're

903
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent like everybody else, is it. But

904
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: they showed some signs of sticking with it against Washington.

905
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

906
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: Actually, t J. Edwards coming back really helped.

907
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: Speaking again of injuries, you know, again I heard I'm

908
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: not going to say where somewhere on one of these

909
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: frequencies that if the Vikings had had who's our regular

910
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: right tackle, right offensive tackle, if O'Neil had played against

911
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: the Steelers, we would have won the game. And I'm going,

912
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: okay that that sounds good. The Bears were missing. Could

913
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Speaker 1: the Bears say, well, if we'd have had three or

914
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: four of the five defensive starters we had out against

915
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: the Vikings, the Bears would have finished that game and

916
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: there wouldn't have been any you know, miracle comeback by

917
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. That's why I think that game is not

918
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: worth playing, because if you only conveniently play it when

919
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: it's your advantage, then I think you're you're not really

920
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: being very fair to what else is going on to

921
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: other teams as well.

922
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean Brisco was Kyler Gordon

923
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: was out and was least was out without you know,

924
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 4: we're still learning about Caleb Williams as you have the

925
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: chops to play. This game actually looked better the last

926
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks. You know, it was great catching the

927
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: Cowboys when you caught when the Bears caught him because

928
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Speaker 4: they were able to kind of that was kind of

929
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Speaker 4: the get right game for them.

930
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Speaker 2: By the way, I think Aikman's still mad at Caleb.

931
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Speaker 4: He kept some of that. Caleb was having fun with

932
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: it on social media though, so I think he's ready

933
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Speaker 4: to move on on with it.

934
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Speaker 1: But the rumor is for those who don't know, let

935
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: me say, is that he didn't they you know, they

936
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: they're supposed to give these briefings obviously to the play

937
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: by play guy and sometimes TV analyst, and that somehow

938
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Speaker 1: Caleb couldn't couldn't find time for for Troy Aikman for

939
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: old number eight.

940
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: What's that all about?

941
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, And I'm sure was upset and Aignan was

942
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: it he didn't hope back whenever Caleb like through a

943
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: pass that was out for miss Romo Goosey running down

944
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: the field until you know, three yards of separation. Yes,

945
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: and the one thought I was almost picked. Aikman was

946
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Speaker 4: ready to jump on her criticisms.

947
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Speaker 3: He was.

948
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Speaker 4: I think the criticisms were more than the praise from Aikman. So,

949
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Speaker 4: I mean that's his way of getting back at the

950
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 4: at the young man. So I hope he he's happy

951
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: with his performance on Monday Night Football. You know Caleb's

952
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 4: happy with his because then he ended up driving the

953
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 4: Bears on the field. Actually, DeAndre SWI, Yeah, it was running,

954
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 4: that's it exactly of winning the game.

955
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, though, in all seriousness, I I

956
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: think I think you'd agree with this, Williams.

957
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: Caleb still needs to be more accurate.

958
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: And it is a reminder that I think, and this

959
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: is what I think where Aikman is a bit of

960
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: a perfectionist, but what he knows is I mean, we

961
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: we had fun a couple of days ago with the

962
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: comment from the head coach about about the power of completions,

963
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: and really what that is is, of course, the power

964
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: of accuracy, all right, of just throwing the ball to

965
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: the to the right guy at the right time. Whether

966
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: it's a three yard pass, don't worry if it's a

967
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: nine yard pass, just be accurate with the threat. And

968
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: I still think, even in victory, that's where Caleb's got

969
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: gotta get better. I still don't think he's up to

970
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: that place where he completely gets the you know where

971
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: he gets he gets a little off kilter and he

972
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: doesn't look like his base is very good. That's what

973
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks do, man, They complete pass after pass

974
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: after pass.

975
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, I hate to sound like O'Connell, but you know

976
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 4: they've had to work on Caleb Willis's footwork. He needed

977
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: that proper base under him. So when he releases, the

978
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 4: ball has the right revolutions and it's very accurate. They

979
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: had to because they were talking about how he was

980
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: lining up with the wrong foot, like he had his

981
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 4: right foot in front of him when he was getting

982
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: the Shotgune and then Johnsons like, what are you doing?

983
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: How are you going to get the ball out on

984
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: the quick screen pass which I like to run with

985
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 4: the right foot in front of you, put your left

986
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 4: foot out front. So a little stuff like that, Kilos

987
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 4: were working on and he hit some nice screenplays. Yes

988
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: on a Monday night, and yeah, taking what the defense

989
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: gives you is a good thing. But you also don't

990
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: want to throw twelve swing pass of the game either

991
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: if you're not getting much yards after to catch one.

992
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: Hundred percent true lavel with us for just a couple

993
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: more minutes. We were out at six for Vikings programming

994
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: and then it's Vikings Podcast Day is what it is,

995
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: and then that will be followed by Thursday Night football

996
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

997
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: I believe we're in Cincinnati.

998
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: I think that game's in Cincy to take on the Bengals.

999
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: Michael real Quick, I saw an item I think it

1000
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: was from your guy Gleaman. That caught my attention. You

1001
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: know what I did? I think I retweeted it. Let

1002
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: me double check if I did. I don't know if

1003
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: you've heard anything about this. He tweeted that according to

1004
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: Sam Bloom, the Angels are expected to interview Tory Hunter

1005
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: and possibly rock A Ball Deli for their manager job.

1006
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: Kind of interesting and see I.

1007
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 3: Didn't seen that one today.

1008
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: I know they interviewed Kurtzuzuki, who was also has Twins connections,

1009
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 4: and Toy was mentioned as a possibility that the day

1010
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: after the regular season ended, and then a lot of

1011
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 4: the attentions were switched to Abba pool Holds, which threw

1012
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: me for a if. I couldn't believe a guy as

1013
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: accomplishment as he has been with the hundreds of millions

1014
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 4: of dollars that he's earned, would like to would want

1015
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 4: to invest that type of time to be amazing manager.

1016
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: But apparently their search continues. I'm not surprised as all

1017
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: that Toys talking to the Angels, and I as of

1018
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 4: last week, the Twins that not called Toy for an interview.

1019
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: I don't know I would. I would imagine if the

1020
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: Twins are being thorough here, they should bring the man

1021
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 4: in for a conversation and see what he's thinking that.

1022
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I still like your idea of the best actually, Rouson,

1023
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: but I think you got to bring him in.

1024
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: Do we know that Tory wants to be a manager?

1025
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he does.

1026
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: I think he does.

1027
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: But I'm still even when he said it, I'm still

1028
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: surprised at it because he's got so much going on

1029
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: with his business interest. I was like, he's gonna be

1030
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: able to separate these two. It just hecus and when

1031
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 4: it takes to being a manager, it's some long hours man.

1032
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 4: There's a lot of stuff that goes on. The managers

1033
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: have to put up when you get into the you

1034
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 4: get into the cluboffs like a you know, noon before

1035
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: the seven pm game. You know, he's got to go

1036
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 4: to the spring training. Just hope he's ready for the task.

1037
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: You know.

1038
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: That's that's a big big uh. It's a it's a

1039
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: lot of time, man, a big responsibility. It is.

1040
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 4: So that's interesting and interesting that Rockell was ready to

1041
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: get back in. Maybe you just want to have a

1042
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 4: conversation and make a decision, because when we swapped text

1043
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, he indicated he wanted to

1044
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 4: spend time with his family and then kind of figure

1045
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 4: out what he wants to do. Maybe he's maybe he

1046
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 4: got the is already, or maybe Arti Morino personally called

1047
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: and said, I like to bring you in. He couldn't

1048
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: say no to Lardi Morino.

1049
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: I don't know you could.

1050
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: The emotions change. I'm sure pretty quickly where you go. Okay, yeah,

1051
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: I was, That's how I felt then. But somebody's gonna

1052
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: call me. I'm gonna listen. Uh, we are out of time.

1053
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate you a day early because we as you know,

1054
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: we're out early tomorrow for Gopher football where you say

1055
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: you're going to be or might hang out.

1056
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Speaker 2: Uh, So we'll talk to you next. We thank you,

1057
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: Lavelle E Neil.

1058
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Speaker 1: The third two hour truncated program tomorrow will include the

1059
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Speaker 1: usual that means predictions with Kirby at three point thirty

1060
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: and Ben Gestling should join us at four thirty. Maybe

1061
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: we'll have a little bit more in the quarterback situation

1062
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: by then, although I think it's pretty much we pretty

1063
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: much know how this is going to go. And as

1064
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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier Vikings Podcast, we follow up by Thursday

1065
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Speaker 1: Night football. All that tonight in the fan we appreciate

1066
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Speaker 1: you watching, we appreciate you listening, and we will talk

1067
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Speaker 1: to you again tomorrow, beginning at three