1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: ACOURIUS Home Services has your shot at poor tickets to 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: see green Bay take on the Purple and early January 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: plus five hundred dollars in game day cash. Register for 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: your chance to win the day on the kfan contest page. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: That's KFN dot com slash furnace enter today critical. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Do you think that game will be tenderly? That's the 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: last game of the season. Is that correct regular season 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: game or not? It's early January, it. 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Must be right, Yes, that would be the last game 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: of the year. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that. Do you think both teams will 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: be well have safely secured a playoff spot prior to that, 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: or do you think that might be one of those 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: got a win to get in, win and get in. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: I think it might be a winning a win to 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: get in. 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: It might be a win to get in kind of 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: a game. You know, when earlier we were talking about 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: this would be the second time Joe fly has played 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: against the Green Bay Packers. This this is because when 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: he was quarterbacking with Cleveland, they actually won the game. 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: The Browns beat the Packers, Flacco gets traded to the Bengals. 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: There are those I think you even expressed some maybe 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: some surprises to what's the point. And I think for me, 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of, no, this is 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is logical or this is realistic, 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: but I mentioned it. I don't think if if you're 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: if you're going to trade for a veteran quarterback, you 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: may as well get a guy there's it's not going 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: to take him long. 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't have problem with them doing at all. 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you said you did. 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: I thought you know, you were just making the comment 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: about why they were favored by fourteen. I'm like, well, 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Flacco is like not the greatest quarterback? 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: Is he an upgrade over Jake Browning? Yes? Did you 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: have to give up basically nothing to get them? Yeah? 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would have made the move. 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were surprised. 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: By Actually I would have been Jameis Winston. 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just going to get to my point though. Okay, 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: sorry I misinterpreted what you said. It sounded like you 44 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: were surprised he can pick up an offense instantly. You say, 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: it's not like it's going to be like he after 46 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: years have to you know, stay up late at night 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: to figure it out. Second of all, as I'd mentioned, 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: he's throwing to one of the best wide receiver tandems 49 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: in all of football. Yeah, and maybe most important is 50 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: they're still in the thicke of things. I mean, the 51 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: Ravens are one and three. They're a terrible team in 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: a terrible city with terrible fans, are a terrible stadium. 53 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: The Browns are the Browns. The Steelers are three and one, 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: but the Bengals are two and three and so and again, 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: the Steelers haven't done anything that leads me to believe that. Man, 56 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: they're just going to keep winning more. The way it's going, 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: they'll probably win the division. But I think if you, 58 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: if you're Cincinnati, you can't give up on the season yet. 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Just like you know, there are those when you and 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: I have been discussing if even after McCarthy is one 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: hundred percent, do you insert him right away in the lineup, 62 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: regardless of how the Vikings are doing as a team, 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: and then how Wentz is doing individually? You know, I 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: think you and I both. I think I again, maybe 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: I put words in your mouth again. If Wenz continues 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: to win and plays as well as he has, I 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: just keep playing him until the wheels fall. 68 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: Off. 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: That's what I would do. And I know we all 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: want to see McCarthy and this and that the other thing. 71 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 2: So my point is because because I don't get it, 72 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: but others have texted us and saying, we're already know 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: this team and't go over the big games we got 74 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: to see with what we got with teams, don't think 75 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: that way that are still in the hunt, right, especially 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: when you're three and two. Yeah, and even with the 77 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: Bengals at two and three, they're only you know, a 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: game and a half behind the Steelers. And like I said, 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: with the Ravens and the Browns being the Ravens and 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: where the Ravens are right now where the Browns so, well, 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: you can't give up on it, particularly when it looks 82 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: like Burrow could be back in late December, back in 83 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: sixty three, so he might come back, and that would 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: be a case where, unless Flacco is having a career year, 85 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: you would replace Joe Flacco with Joe Burrow. Yes, I 86 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: think that's one where you would Burrow. Yes, you have Burrow. 87 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: He's that good. 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: So the Bengals right now in the AFC are eighth place, 89 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: seven go to the playoffs. 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go and they have a losing 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: record right now. Three. 92 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can somehow hang around five hundred until 93 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Burrow gets back later in the year and maybe you 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: go in a late late December run and get it in 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: the postseason. There's a lot of teams THEFC that wouldn't 96 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: want to see Joe Burrow in a playoff game. 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: You are correct. We looked at NFL power rankings yesterday 98 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: from the Athletic and what athletic? 99 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: What's that? 100 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: Really? 101 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: You don't know. It's somebody that's really good at whatever 102 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: sport they choose to do. They're in good shape. The 103 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: Athletic is online sports newspaper where they created I think 104 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: the New York Times actually bought the Athletic for a 105 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: boatload of money, if I'm not mistaken, And the Athletic 106 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: cherry picked who they thought were the best writers pretty 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: much in every major metropolitan area, gave him probably gave 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: him a nice significant race, and said, we want you 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: to cover the local teams, and so they did up 110 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: power rankings. They had the Lions as the number one 111 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: team in the National Football League, won four in a 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: row after losing in Green Bay to start the season, 113 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken. The Packers were top ten 114 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: in the vikings. I think weighed in as the best 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: of the lousiest and the lousiest of the best. At sixteen. 116 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: CBS Sports agrees with the Lions as the best team 117 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: in football. They go from number two last week to 118 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: number one, a best team in pro football, followed by 119 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: the Eagles at two, Bills at three, the Buccaneers at four. 120 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: In the cold Set five they have the Packers at seven, 121 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: above two other four and one teams, the Jaguars and 122 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. How do you? How do you? 123 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: You know? 124 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: And again, power rankings are subjective and we always have 125 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: the you know, we overreact or underreact every week. And 126 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: I like the Packers, well, no, I dislike the Packers, 127 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: but just as a team and how they're playing, I 128 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: think I like what they're doing and I like that 129 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: the makeup of their club. I just don't know if 130 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: I put them over the Jaguars are they were mighty impressive. 131 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: The other the very impressive, very impressive, and so I 132 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: just don't know if I would. Maybe maybe CBS Sports 133 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: needs to see a little bit more before they believe, 134 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: But I you know, Packers at number seven would. 135 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: You have, Well, a lot of this is still left 136 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: over from preseason predictions, right, like you said, India was 137 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: at five. 138 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the cold set. No, they have the 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: cold set. 140 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Six six Steelers. You could argue the Culture the best 141 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: team in football, right you could. Now, I know their 142 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: schedule hasn't been overly tough, but they do have a 143 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: quality win against the Denver Broncos within that win stretch wins. 144 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: And while while they haven't had a challenging schedule, they've 145 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: been whooping up on that schedule. Yes, I mean, they 146 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: beat the beat the Dolphins by twenty five points, they 147 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: beat the Titans by twenty one, They just beat the 148 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: Raiders by thirty four, So it's not like they're just 149 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: skimming by on the hairs of their chiny chin chin 150 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: against these bad teams. And then, like I said, they've 151 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: got a very good win against the Broncos in there. So, 152 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: but we went into the season going the Indianapolis Culture 153 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: are not a playoff team, So it's almost like it 154 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: takes longer for those types of teams to get the 155 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: respect from the power ranking rankers. 156 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: The hero of that says, please tell me who Detroit 157 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: is beaten? The GD team they played lost. Now the 158 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: the GD team, they low. The injuries are stacking. They 159 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: do have some injuries on defense. They they haven't beat 160 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: very good teams, but they're beating those teams rather handily. 161 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: So they're they're. 162 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: Now when they played Baltimore, they still had Lamar Jackson, 163 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: did they Yeah, So I know the Ravens are one 164 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: and four, and people think they're terrible all of a sudden. 165 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: If Lamar Jackson's playing, that's a good team. 166 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 167 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: And they regardless of how bad their defense is. 168 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: That's correct. And they and you know, if you remember, 169 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: they open the season, as you say, with a one 170 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: point loss to Buffalo's considered one of the best teams 171 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: in the league. 172 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: So I I in Chicago's two and two. Yeah, and 173 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: they smoked them. Yeah, And they smoked the Browns while 174 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings and Packers both struggled at the Browns exactly. 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I again, I understand why, you know, you 176 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: look at strength of schedule and such like that, and 177 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see what happens on Sunday night when 178 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: they take on Kansas City. I'm not even suggesting that 179 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: Detroit is the best team in pro football. You know, 180 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: once a Lions fan, always a doubting Lions fans. That's 181 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 2: that's what we do. But the Vikings are at seventeen, 182 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: right below your other big game pick. They have the 183 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Chiefs at sixteen and the and they're in the Vikings 184 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: at seventeen. Let's see if they and I don't think 185 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: they actually have. Yeah, they they have a quick couple 186 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: of sentences, and here's what it says about the Vikings. 187 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: Rallying to beat the Browns and get a split of 188 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: the over of their two overseas games was big for 189 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: this team. They now headed there by JJ McCarthy should 190 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: be back at quarterback when they play the Eagles in 191 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: two weeks. So they are convinced, at least at CBA, 192 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 2: they say should be. They're expecting McCarthy to get the start. 193 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: And you and I have been discussing this ten Tobe, 194 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: and I'm starting to believe. I thought they would ride 195 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: with Wins for a while, and they still could. They 196 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: still might, but I just I don't know what to 197 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: call my gad full eyes sense tingling, but just right, 198 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: some of the things the coach has said about you 199 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: know this, watching Wins for the past couple of games, 200 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: going through the progressions, getting rid of the balls. But 201 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: good for him. We're going to get him some work. 202 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna get him back. You know, I think I 203 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: think they're planning to play because he's the quarterback whisper. 204 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: And don't just take it from me. A former Viking 205 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: basically said that do you have that sound? 206 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Can we get that on the air? You sent it 207 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: to me earlier? Yeah, wait, I can get that. 208 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, a former Viking because basically calling Kevin O'Connell 209 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: a quarterback whisper, Well, we'll listen to that sound. By 210 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: the other side of the break, here are the Common 211 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: Man program on the Fan. 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A ticket's available at event Bright 230 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: Larry Mondello, Guy will MC, followed by Sauce and then 231 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: myself and we're looking forward to it. They've got plain 232 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: State packers are. 233 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: There, what sauce. They shouldn't be called the event dumb. 234 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: You know that text messager said that you're probably you. 235 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Have a quick you should be on flops winting tears 236 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: when with the material like that, with that material, I 237 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: think we'll pass. But nice, that was still a nice, 238 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: nice effort. And so they've got like a I think 239 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: it's a fifty room fifty two room hotel and they've 240 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: got golf course and food and so we're gonna have 241 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: a good time. I look forward to it. But we'll 242 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: give away a pair of tickets before the end of 243 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: the grum. Last thing, you know, you know, you know 244 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: who is Detroit beating? Well, it's their offenses picked up 245 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: where they were last year and they're doing the same. 246 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: They're they're offensively, they're really really good, and defensively they're 247 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: still relatively healthy. They're good. They're a good club. You 248 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: don't have to say they're the best at football, but 249 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: they're certainly a top five team right now. I don't 250 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 2: know how you cannot say they're not. 251 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: Either way. 252 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: The Vikings have beaten the exact same teams too, So 253 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: if you're gonna argue that and they like, well the 254 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: Bikings aren't that great, that that's exactly right. And our 255 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: wins have not been as convincing. Other than Cincinnati, they're they're. 256 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: In this town, not in just this town, all across 257 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: the National Football League. The reigning NFL Coach of the 258 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: Year Kevin O'Connell, has been bestowed with the title of 259 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,359 Speaker 2: Quarterback Whisperer. Had any quarterback that he comes in contact 260 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: with immediately blossoms flourishes, start playing at a level he 261 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 2: never has before. Kind of started with Cousins, even though 262 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if we made Cousins that much better. 263 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: I think Cousins was already pretty quality quarterback. I don't 264 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: know if he took a real step forward, but maybe 265 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: he did. Maybe if you break down the numbers, I 266 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: know we had a terrific season under O'Connell. Was that 267 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: first fourteen and three year? Thirteen and four? Was it 268 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: thirteen and four? The first year? And he was really 269 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: good And I don't know if he was I don't 270 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: know if O'Connell and then you know, when we got 271 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: past or not. For those first couple of games, he 272 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: looked brilliant. If you'll remember, after the first game, Viking 273 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: fans were saying, we need to sign past or not 274 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: to a long term. It was almost to know, like 275 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: remember somebody said that we needed to sign sooda eight 276 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: million dollar deal. There were people that wanted to sign 277 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: a Pastor not to a long deal. So the the 278 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: head coaches also said, and he has a couple of 279 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: pet phrases that he uses, including our players played their 280 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: best when their best was required. He also says, organizations 281 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: more times than not fail quarterbacks than quarterbacks fail organizations, 282 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: which means we failed for the past or not. We 283 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: failed for Mullins, we failed for several other quarterbacks. But 284 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: we've obviously done a lot for Sammy Darnold. Again, you 285 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: and I talked about how he spent a year with 286 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: San Francisco, a Super Bowl year as the backup. He 287 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: didn't play, but he Darnald has said working in that 288 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: organization scene, how a real team operates, was instrumental to 289 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: the why he played. Danny Dying was also here for 290 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: a very short period of time. He is now flourishing 291 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: with Indianapolis after leaving the Giants. He came here and 292 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: he was here for just a handful of games. At 293 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: the tail end of last season, decided to go to 294 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: greener pastures. And I think that was really doing large 295 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: part of the vikings that I think made it perfectly 296 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: clear they were not going to go with Sam Donald. 297 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: They didn't offer him a deal, they didn't want to 298 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: pay him, they didn't sign Aaron Rodgers. I don't think 299 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: they really made much of an offer to Danny. They 300 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: wanted to go with their hand picked a draft pick. 301 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. Danny Dimes was recently, I think this week 302 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: was in a is it a podcast of some sort. 303 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Fits and wit? 304 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: That must be you because you're wit so fits and wit? 305 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: Do you know who fits would be? Oh, and then 306 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: would be the former Rams lineman. Right, they do a 307 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: podcast together, and they had Danny Dimes, you just set 308 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: this up. Well, they asked him like, you know, why 309 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: are you playing at this level? Or what was the 310 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: question they were doing. Yeah, I'll play the whole question. 311 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: I'll play the entire body. 312 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Yes, here we go, Daniel Jones, New York Giants, and 313 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: then go to Minnesota and come here. 314 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: What are some of the things you feel like you've 315 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: grown in or maybe experiences you've had that you've matured from. Well, 316 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: I always thought I worked, you know, really hard. 317 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: I tried to work really hard, and it was important 318 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: to me to prepare, watch film, study, and I think 319 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: I did that, you know. But then going to Minnesota, 320 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: I saw how Sam prepared, how you know, Kevin prepared, 321 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: those guys, Josh McCown, Greg Gednsky, that crew, and how 322 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: detailed they were day day in and day out on 323 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: every little bit of the plan and how they're going 324 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: to study it, what they're looking for, walking through it, 325 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: quizzing each other in the quarterback room. 326 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: And that made a big impression on me. 327 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 4: And I was like, okay that you know, this is 328 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 4: this is maybe the next. 329 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: Level of some of that stuff. And I think that changed. 330 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: I think Kevin's just how aggressive he was in the 331 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: play calling. 332 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you guys see it. 333 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: It's like it's play pass, but it's a lot of 334 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: dropback shots, you know, taking taking taking their chances. And 335 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: and that made an impression on me too. So you know, 336 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 4: I think several things like that, and just being around uh, 337 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: being around those guys. 338 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: And that quarterback whisper that's there. It is, you can't 339 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: deny it anymore. He did credit Darnell to start watching. 340 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: Simmy also credited which any core the the uh the 341 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: quarterbacks coach, which I think is is a good point. 342 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: That's kind of what I've been trying to say all along. 343 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: Is I just and it's it's not just. O'Connell is 344 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: just the latest example of the idolization and pedestalization people 345 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: get when they have uh some success and all of 346 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: a sudden they need to be labeled this they need 347 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: to be labeled that everybody's got to be the greatest 348 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: we've ever seen and the best of this, the best 349 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: of that, because that's just the way we feed off 350 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: that that's the sort of things we look for in 351 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: sports sports sports. I thought what was important there was 352 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: was he was talking about how aggress and how he 353 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: basically says, with O'Connell's offense, it's I don't know if 354 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: I would call it air Coriel. Don don Coriel was 355 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: head coach offensive coordinator for the Chargers back in the 356 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: days of Dan Fouts, And they threw the ball early, 357 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: they threw it often, and they threw it long. And 358 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: that's what I think O'Connell likes to do. He likes 359 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: to get and when you have two we talked about 360 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: this in the first segment, when you have two wide 361 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: receivers that can spread the field like or stretch the 362 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: field like at Addie and Jet, because both those guys 363 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: can you know they they both they're not doing little 364 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: button hooks and square ins and sad that they're they're 365 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 2: they're they're downfield. But to be able to do that, 366 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: you have to have an offensive line that can give 367 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: the quarter because it takes a few takes a few 368 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: seconds for those those routes to development for a guy 369 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: to to to get open. So you need a line 370 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: that can provide that kind of protection, and then you 371 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: need a quarterback like they they talked about the coach 372 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: himself was talking about how we thinks McCarthy should have 373 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: picked up something watching Wentz these past a few weeks 374 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: because and we know Wentz is probably a midland quarterback, 375 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: maybe slightly above average, slightly below however you want to 376 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: rank him. But he's played pretty well for the Vikings 377 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: and relief McCarthy. But he makes quick decisions. He's he's 378 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he's gotten sacked and a lot of those 379 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: I think might be coverage sacks or maybe the line 380 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: breaking down with last week we talked about it, they 381 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: ended the game with only one of their their to 382 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: start the season. We had the idea of these are 383 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: gonna be the five guys that start for us. We're 384 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: gonna have Ryan at center, We're gonna have Fries at 385 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: right guard, and then we're gonna have Ryan O'Neil. Then 386 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna have Jackson at left guard. Right the young 387 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: kid was Pencil didn't start, yes, and then it was 388 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: gonna be derosol. Well, Darris how didn't start the season. 389 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: Jackson's hurt? Uh? Ryan concussions? Yeah, Kelly is it? Yeah? Uh? Uh? 390 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: Is it Kelly Ryan? Or Ryan Kelly? 391 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: Ryan? 392 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: Kelly Ryan Kelly. He's got concussion issues. And O'Neill's been 393 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: out because he's got a he's got a spring knee. 394 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: And despite that fact that last drive was mighty impressive 395 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: that in that game against who do we just beat 396 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: the Browns? Yeah? Beat the Browns. That was an impressive 397 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: drive to drive. In the final drive of the game 398 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: where you had to take the ball all the way 399 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: down the field, they were able to do and score 400 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: the Tuddy Selp. Yeah, there are there are a lot 401 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: of positives. 402 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I looked at that as compliment to KOC. What else. 403 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of insulting the chance. Right Wait, if you're 404 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: in New York listening to this right now, you're going, oh, yeah, 405 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: our coaching staff is awful. 406 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: That's correct, that's correct. 407 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: But I would also say J. J. McCarthy also had 408 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: the same opportunity to learn from Sam Darnold last year 409 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: in KOCY, So we still need to. 410 00:20:59,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: Hold on. 411 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna learn. He just hasn't enough chance to show it. Yeah, 412 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna show us next week against Philadelphia. 413 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: Exactly right, one final break, I'll come back with another 414 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: segment to go, and then we turn it over a 415 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: big ticket. J G here on what we affectionately call 416 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: Evan one point three the fan. 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You pay and 441 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: you're not satisfied to con too. That's just the way 442 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: she goes uh tenneby. You know me, I'm a big 443 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: power rankings guy. I stumbled across the weekly quarterback power 444 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: rankings king the signal callers, the signal callers, Who do 445 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: you think? CBS Sports has says the number one quarterback 446 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: right now in all the profitable. 447 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Still going to lean Josh Allen, even though it wasn't 448 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: as favorable the other. 449 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: Night it is. 450 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: Josh Allen says he may not have gotten the best 451 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: of the rival Patriots and a surprise Week five defeat 452 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: putting the ball in Harm's way a bit more than 453 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: usual as of late, but he's still the NFL's most 454 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: trustworthy playmaker. At the position this side of Patrick Mahomes. 455 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: Yet they don't have Patrick Mahomes number two. 456 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: I was actually in an say Mahomes. I know they're 457 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: not the records nege, but Mahomes has actually had a 458 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: pretty good five game stretch here. 459 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: Who do you think they have at number two? 460 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of like your obvious guys, Like 461 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Hurts has not been great at throwing 462 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: the football. You have Burrow and Lamar Jackson are both 463 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: hurt it technically probably should be Daniel Jones. I just 464 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to give him the equity 465 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: or not. And then you have you know, you're Jared 466 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Goff's and your Baker Mayfield's. Yeah, Jared Goff has not 467 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: been off. 468 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: Well, here's what I can. I say this because I 469 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: remember when the Lions made that trade and I said, 470 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: I think the Lion's got a really good quarterback out 471 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: of the deal, and people that disagreed with me and said, meta, 472 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: he's just Jared Goff. He's not very good. He's not 473 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: good in the clutch. Yeah, he went to a big game, 474 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: but that was more because of the system he played with. 475 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: You played with McVay we can played with McVay in 476 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 2: a quarterback whisper, and I remember telling people, I'm this 477 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: very radio station, and I'm I'm not wrong. Often, as 478 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'm almost always right. I nailed that one. 479 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: Jared off is very good. Again. I do think if 480 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: he's got a patrick, you put him behind this patchword 481 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: Vikings offensive line, he probably looks more like JJ McCarthy, 482 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: but when you give him time, he can read it. 483 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: He's a veteran quarterback that's very good at what he does. 484 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: Number three tend to me, I don't think you're going 485 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: to get this one. 486 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: So it's obviously not even the names I've already mentioned 487 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: you managed. Matter of fact, it was another person that 488 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: was draft Herbert Stafford Lawrence. 489 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: He would no. It was another guy that when he 490 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: was drafted, there was a lot of pushback by fans 491 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: of that team, by members of that team, or at 492 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 2: least one member of that team. And I said, well, 493 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: if you're the general manager, Jordan loves number three quarterback 494 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: and I don't know if he's three, but I think 495 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: I feel vindicated that when he was drafted, most people, 496 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: including Aaron Rodgers, were beside themselves. How do you draft 497 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: you've got Aaron Rodgers. He needs a he needs a 498 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: wide receiver. You're doing a disservice. And I defended the 499 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: selection by saying, as a caretaker of the organization, you 500 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: might be wrong, but if you think you see a 501 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: franchise quarterback, you it's incumbent upon you to select him, 502 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: even if you already have a quarterback there. Green Bay's 503 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: done it before they had far They drafted Rogers, they 504 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: had Rogers, they drafted Love. Sometimes you just have to 505 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: Here's what it says, resting up on the Packers by 506 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: By in Week five, Love may have had a scarily 507 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: sloppy finished to Green Bay's last out in and overtime tie, 508 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: but when asked to heave at it, when asked to 509 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: heave it, as Matt Lafleur's signal caller, he's been electric, 510 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: averaging eight point three yards per toss. 511 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 512 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: They like what they see in him. Matty Stafford at four, 513 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: and then Patty Mahomes. Yeah, at number five. They say 514 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: the magic is still within Mahomes. Not hard to see 515 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: it when he's on the move, single handedly carrying the 516 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: Chiefs ground game. But he but even he isn't meant 517 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: to press so hard. Kansas City's unusually sloppy setup is 518 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: in doing him a lot of favors. Then they have 519 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, another guy that I've always liked, and again 520 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: I he's one of those guys where if he were 521 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: at the quarterback of my team, it's one of those 522 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: tend to be where you know what it was like 523 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: it's third and twelve or whatever, you're kind of you 524 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: know how you put your hands over your face not 525 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: to look, but then you kind of open your two 526 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: fingers to get a peak. That's how I feel when Mayfield, 527 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: because he can He's not afraid to throw it at 528 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: any time into any kind of an area. Now, just 529 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: got some guns, and I know I like help run. 530 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: Occasionally get tough yardage in those situations. 531 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: Week after week, Mayfield further cements himself as the face 532 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: of the Bucks. Even when missing kivettes like Mike Evans, 533 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: he scraps it out with a near unmatched vigor and 534 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: he's all but mastered the art of fourth quarter gun slinging. 535 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: Then your guy Hurts at seven, Presscot at eight, Jade 536 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 2: and Daniels at nine, and then Sammy Darnald at ten, 537 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: Well he forgot former Viking. Here's what it says. A 538 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: rushed throw turn pick ended his bid for a shootout 539 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: winning Week five. But on the whole, Donald's been razor sharp, 540 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: feeding Jackson Smith the jigba under his snappy direction. The 541 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: Seahawks are averaging almost thirty points a game, and we 542 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: had him well, we all know the decision that was made. 543 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: One hundred million dollars was a lot of money, and 544 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: I think there was still a sour taste. And I 545 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think O'Connell's ever come out and 546 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: said that Detroit game just really really left a bad 547 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: taste in my mouth. And I just don't know if 548 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: you know, as much as we pushed him along and 549 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: I quarterback whispered him to be in that situation and 550 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: do that, I don't know if I can trust him. 551 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was it or they were 552 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: just so high on McCarthy, and I'm thinking it's probably 553 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: the latter. They're thinking one hundred million for Donald and 554 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: he had that kind it was a bad performance against 555 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: the lines or our hand picked guy that has only 556 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: lost three games at high school in college. I think 557 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: that's why they did. They've got Drake May at eleven, 558 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert at twelve. Do you think that's a little 559 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: low with some of the other guys up above us? 560 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I guess two weeks ago, I think 561 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: he would have been in the top five. And the 562 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: last two performances against you know one at least being 563 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: a mediocre team have not gone so well for him, 564 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: So things opinions changed quickly. In the National Football League, 565 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: it said, so what have you done for me lately? 566 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: Type of league? 567 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: They got Rogers at thirteen, Danny Jones at fourteen, bow 568 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: Knicks at fifteen, c J Stroud at sixteen. Of the 569 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 2: mighty have falling Rember Stroud? Was it his rookie year 570 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: he was brilliant or second year when he took the 571 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: rookie year he was brilliant really, I mean for the 572 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: most and took a step back last year exactly. They 573 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: have Trevor Lawrence at seventeen, Caleb Williams at eighteen, Michael 574 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Pennox at nineteen, then Tua at twenty and then checking 575 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: in at twenty one. Is Carson wentz Or at twenty one? 576 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: We're at twenty one. Here's what it says about Carson above, 577 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: averaging says for one half of his second starting place 578 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: at JJ McCarthy, Wentz was borderline reckless, absorbing big shots 579 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: on the move. His veteran touch prevailed in the end 580 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: as he kept feeding his gifted wideouts to complete and 581 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: overseas comeback. Almost sounds like a movie to me the 582 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: way it was described there rated PG, well, maybe rated 583 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: R for violence, but they got him at twenty one. 584 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: Then it's Jones, Murray Jackson Dart at twenty four, Jay 585 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: Fields at twenty five, Gabby at twenty six, Gino twenty seven, 586 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: Cam Wore twenty eight, Bryce Young at twenty nine, then 587 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco at thirty, Spencer Rattler thirty one, Cooper Rush, Baltimore, 588 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: Ravens sitting at the bottom because they don't know. I 589 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: guess they're not including Lamar because he's just the current 590 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 2: the current group of quarterbacks. 591 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I will say, I find the quarterback power rankings to 592 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: be fascinating, right because if you would have done any 593 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: power rankings in the last three four years, like there 594 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: always seems to be like an obvious top five and 595 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: then the next five or six there's another tier. But 596 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: they're always got the same quarterbacks in the right like 597 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: you got everyone's got the same tier. If you look 598 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: at these like current NFL Power rankings, like the guy 599 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: who's sitting at fifteen or sixteen, some could argue you 600 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: could be four, and some of the guys, some of 601 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: the guys that are like eight to nine, you could 602 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: argue you should be top three. Like it's very interchangeable, yes, 603 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: And I don't think there's really defined tiers this year. 604 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: And the way, you know, how I've always ranked quarterbacks 605 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: is that it's it's it's a very simple formula, and 606 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: it's probably it's it's not an exact science, and it's 607 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: probably isn't the only way, but a lot of people 608 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: like to use you know, the statistics and the saber 609 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: metrics and the you know, yards per pass and and 610 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: how many completion percentage in your QBR rating and touchdown 611 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: to interception ratio in all that I believe is important, 612 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: But I still go, I got to win a ball game, 613 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: and you know, I'm trailing by by a tuddy and 614 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: I'm deep in my own zone, especially if you're on 615 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: the road and the weather's not good and you might 616 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: only have one time outlet, Who do you want to 617 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: hand the ball to. And yeah, I mean I I 618 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: like golf and love and some of these others, but man, Mahomes. 619 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm not reve ahead of Mahomes. 620 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, I don't even 621 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: put golf ahead of Mahomes, even though golf has done it. 622 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: Some of these guys just go, well. 623 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: You know, I guess those two can decide after Sunday. Yeah, exactly. 624 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: You look at some of those and you just go, 625 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: I'd rather have one of those guys at the top 626 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: of the list. But it's it's interesting so many of 627 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: these names are younger quarterbacks that are really just getting 628 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: started in my career. You know, you have you know 629 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: Love who's basically is this is thirty year as a 630 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: starter or second or third, right as all four is 631 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: up to four and out? Three or fourth, Yeah, you 632 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: probably right, or fourth. Jade Daniels just starting. Darnold even 633 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: though he's been in the year, this is only second 634 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: year where you feel like he's he's he's actually playing 635 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: Drake may Bow Nicks Stroud, third years a starter, Yeah, Kayler, 636 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix. A lot of young guys in there at 637 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: at quarterback. 638 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: It would have been interesting. If McCarthy was still playing, 639 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: where he'd be ranked in that one. 640 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it would be well, I would think if 641 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: you're going strictly on accomplishments for this year, it'd be 642 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: hard to rank him real high, just because we've talked 643 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: about that ratio. He was simply brilliant against the Bears 644 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. I think we all, I mean, 645 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: he impressed. He impressed everyone so much so that he 646 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: won the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. Now we 647 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: we kind of joked a little bit about there must 648 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: not have been that many great performances, but he was 649 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: really good in that fourth quarter. The other seven quarters 650 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: he's played, he's looked a little bit lost. And you know, 651 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: part of that does have to do with that offensive 652 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: line as leaky as it is, right, Yes, And that 653 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: goes back to what O'Connell said earlier this week when 654 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: he said he was almost suggesting that not that the 655 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: injury was a blessing in disguise, but watching again now again, 656 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: he had a chance to watch Donald for a year, 657 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: but it didn't seem like last year's offensive line was 658 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: as leaky as this year's until that game with Detroit 659 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: and then the Rams right, especially the Rams game, the 660 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: Detroit game. It was mostly on Donald. The Rams game 661 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: they had nine sacks and never rush Moore four. But 662 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: it didn't seem like there was that much pressure on 663 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: Donald last year. If it was, he was picking it 664 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 2: up awful quick because they went fourteen to three. But 665 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 2: I don't think McCarthy's really stood much of a chance 666 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: either in defense of him. I mean, when you've never 667 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: played NFL football before other than that preseason one half 668 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: he played, and I know he's Look, I always won 669 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: a lot. He won a Natty at the college. They 670 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: throw off that number all the time. In all the 671 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: games he started in high school and college, he's only 672 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 2: lost three games. But when when when when When you're 673 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: playing National Football League caliber defenses and the Bears are 674 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: that's pretty good defense, and the Falcons are pretty good too. 675 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: Right when you're playing pretty good defenses like that and 676 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: you've got you're not getting a lot of protection on 677 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: the line. It's it's hard even for a veteran quarterbacks 678 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: to succeed, much less a young kid. So it will 679 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: be interesting to see if that, if this line gets 680 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: gets healthy again. We're expecting Jackson back in a week, 681 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: could he be ready for the Eagles game because I 682 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: thought it was like a wasn't it like a risk? Yeah, 683 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: so he'll be back. 684 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: Deris thought he's coming off him and Cashman, Yeah, cashman, 685 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: cash out, cash in, cash out. 686 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: But on the offensive line you'll have Dearisaw and Jackson 687 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 2: and Fry, so you'll have three of those guys and. 688 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe so it'll be more interesting and maybe Brandell. 689 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: He looked pretty decent at center against Cleveland. It is 690 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: the first time I ever playing there. It's very small sample, but. 691 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: Well, And you know, anytime you see a performance like that, 692 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 2: you you start to wonder if you know, because everybody wants, 693 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: you know, some of these positions are so tough to play. 694 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: You know, we all know quarterbacks certainly, but you know center, 695 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: you know. But and I know it's commed, but you 696 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: see a performance identity, go how hard can it be? 697 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: A guy who's never done it before went in there, 698 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: played pretty well. I mean, I don't think it wasn't 699 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: like he stuck out like a sore thumb and was 700 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: having all kinds of trouble. Seemed like he knew, you know, 701 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 2: because I think the center kind of helps with the 702 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 2: protections and all those kinds of things, and I thought 703 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: he did just you you wouldn't put it this way. 704 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: I never noticed. I never went, boy, we're really having 705 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: trouble at the center position. I never thought that during 706 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 2: the game. 707 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: So well, maybe I don't know what goes into changes 708 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: at the line with protections. Maybe having a veteran quarterback 709 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: who can kind of make those calls whereas JJ might 710 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: need a little more help from center and looking at 711 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: line protection stuff, maybe that helps having a veteran like 712 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: Carson in there. 713 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: There was one other story I saw, and they were 714 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: talking about free agent acquisitions and how important they can 715 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: be to a team that's kind of on the cusp 716 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 2: of winning. Like little what the Eagles did last year, 717 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: I mean getting Saquon Barkley, I would say was one 718 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 2: of the most important free agent acquisitions in recent memory, 719 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: not just last year. I mean, they really didn't have 720 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: much of a running game they were using, wasn't it 721 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift? Is that it was. I mean they didn't 722 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: have much of a running game until they got Barkley 723 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 2: and then he went off for what was two thousand yards? Yeah, 724 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 2: who was the guy that got the Zach Bond? Is 725 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 2: that his name, defensive guy. Are you familiar for who? 726 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: He was Defensive Player of the Year last year for 727 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: the Eagles. I don't think it was for the I 728 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: don't think. No, it wasn't Eagles. It was hold On. 729 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: Patrick. Certain was the defensive player of the year last year. Cornerback. 730 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: He was. 731 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 4: He was. 732 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: Oh, he was a finalist. Ti'm sorry, finalist for the 733 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: for the defensive player. Yeah, it says, yeah. Zach Bond 734 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 2: was twenty twenty four's best veteran defensive player acquisition. He 735 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: made a smooth transition that a bond No, I said 736 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: bond uh okay rosie edge rushing outside linebacker to inside 737 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: linebacker and was a finalist for NFC or for the 738 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: NFL's Defensive Player of the Year when he was a 739 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: finalist sport So they were. So they were using those 740 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: examples as two really good free agent acquisitions. They have 741 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: tennel listed for this year, two of them former Vikings 742 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: Darnald and Danny Jones, two quarterbacks. But they also say 743 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: the Vikings own one of the best free agent pickups, 744 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers. 745 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: Zay Rodgers I called so far, so far he won 746 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that one game, yeah. 747 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: Against the Bengals. He was brilliant. Yeah, but you know, 748 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: I've had this discussion with with with with with friends 749 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 2: and listeners and such like that. Maybe you and I 750 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: have even discussed it too. Going the free agent route 751 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: can be risky. It can because you're generally spending a 752 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: lot of money right your sign We've seen that. We 753 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: we signed to interior guys on both the four players, 754 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: two on the on the interior of the defense and 755 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: the offense. We spent a lot of money to get 756 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: those players. And you know, you're you're you're taking a 757 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 2: little bit of a leap of faith. Most of them 758 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: have a good track record, that's why they're getting paid 759 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: a lot of money, but they also generally a little 760 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 2: long in the tooth, maybe coming off injuries like with 761 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: the Vikings players. And so you know, I always defended 762 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: the and you know we took text messages regarding that 763 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 2: from listeners and I always I defended the organization. I 764 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: will continue to do that that if you feel like 765 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: you're in a position to win now, which are coming 766 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: off of fourteen and three season, and if you're going 767 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: to go with a rookie quarterback, you need to protect 768 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: them and the middle of that Vikings offensive line was 769 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: a mess, and I know that the two guys we 770 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: signed were coming off major injuries from last year, but 771 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: I still think you got to take that chance sometimes. 772 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: But it can be it can be devastating if you 773 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: go out and get free agents and they're not any 774 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 2: good and you've got all that money invested into them. 775 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: It it it can be devastating for a team for 776 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: that season of drafts and draft picks too, right, But 777 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 2: so when you're trying to when you're trying to fill 778 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: with those those high price free agents, it can be. 779 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's a good thing about the Vikings free agent 780 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: picks over the last couple of seasons is they're getting 781 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: good productions from the free agents, and typically at a 782 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: smaller price. Yes, now the Kelly one doesn't look like 783 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna work out so well, but you know, Rogers 784 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: is completely on the cheap. They got him on day 785 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: one of free agency and people are like, what are 786 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: you guys doing? And that looks like a steal. I 787 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: mean Van Ginkle last year was at a good price. 788 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, Gernard they spent money on, but that one 789 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: worked out. Cashman at his price has been good. They've 790 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: had a lot of hits there. I'm starting to put 791 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: it together. He gets more hits in the draft, but 792 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: probably we do that as well. Program Password tomorrow, right correct, 793 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: Max Fuller and Julia Daniels. I believe she has played once, 794 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: but it wasn't when we were here, but Julia Daniels 795 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 1: of Caroln. 796 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: So they'll they'll be in tomorrow, will be of course 797 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: feminine touch at once. She'll play program password as well. 798 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: Baby Teddy, thanks for having me. 799 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: Hey great, joy was well. 800 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: I enjoyed our visit with you that I think Tenneby 801 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 2: did as well. We're back tomorrow twelve, knowing in the 802 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: program a little bit at one and program pass word 803 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 2: one thirty stick around, big take at j G there 804 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 2: next right here on the fan night God all right, 805 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 2: got good night folks, Good night missus Calabash. 806 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: We're having 807 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 3: Listen back to any of Common Man's programs by podcasting 808 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app or kfa N dot com.