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Speaker 2: We are a Twin Peaks in Westchester for the Week

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Speaker 2: five edition of The Tony and Mo Football Show on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, a day after the Bengals get crushed

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Speaker 2: by the Detroit Lions and the game that was not

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Speaker 2: as close as the final score would indicate thirty seven

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Speaker 2: to twenty four. We are here until six o'clock. If

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Speaker 2: you haven't been to Twin Peaks in Westchester, what are

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Speaker 2: you waiting for a great place to watch fun sports night?

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Speaker 2: Tonight pair of League Division Series playoff games You've got

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Speaker 2: what I think is an interesting Monday night football game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you're looking ahead of this weekend, if you're thinking, God,

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Speaker 2: I gotta get out somewhere to watch Bengals and Packers,

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Speaker 2: you could do it here at Twin Peaks in Westchester.

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Speaker 2: Before we do anything, it's time for Zach and he

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Speaker 2: contractually coplicate an airing of his Monday afternoon press conference.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll have some guys limited on Wednesday. But for

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Speaker 3: the most part, I feel like we came out of

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Speaker 3: it relatively.

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Speaker 4: J went out for a little bit, was he okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Angle came back and played so again, some guys

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Speaker 3: are gonna deal with some shortness this week and things

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Speaker 3: like that, but nothing from this game that should prevent anybody.

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Speaker 5: From the next game.

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Speaker 6: As a shot to come back this week.

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Speaker 5: We'll see. Yeah, we'll see where that's at.

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Speaker 7: Right now, you go back and look at how Jake played,

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Speaker 7: will kind of shoot out the day after.

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Speaker 3: Well, we have to take care of the football. That's

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Speaker 3: the number one thing is eliminating the turnovers. Given them

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Speaker 3: a short field for a defense. You know, our defense

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Speaker 3: the first start of the game gave up a touchdown

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Speaker 3: after starting on the minus forty one and then gave

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Speaker 3: a touchdown after starting on a plus nineteen. Those are

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Speaker 3: the fourteen points they gave up, and so we got

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Speaker 3: to give them better opportunities to be able to keep

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Speaker 3: points off the board because as those are two tough

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Speaker 3: field positions. That one started with a special team's era,

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Speaker 3: one started with an offensive error, and in order to

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Speaker 3: play winning football, we've obviously got to score more points

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Speaker 3: on offense and keep our defense out of Hum's way

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Speaker 3: in terms of field position. And then and then they've

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Speaker 3: got to do a great job of creating some turnovers.

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Speaker 3: You know, they got the one, but we're going to

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Speaker 3: need one that you see Jake starting on Sunday, and

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Speaker 3: we'll see where it goes. You know, it's I think

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Speaker 3: I have all personnel decisions. We got to evaluate it.

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Speaker 3: Jake's been very accountable for how the game went for him.

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Speaker 3: I've got to be accountable for how the game went

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Speaker 3: for me as well. And so we will continue to

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Speaker 3: progress here through the days.

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Speaker 4: When would you want that to be finalized? Going for

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Speaker 4: a game? We when do you got when do you

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Speaker 4: need to have a guy?

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Speaker 3: These are things that we talk about every single Monday Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: So we'll evaluate a lot of positions.

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Speaker 8: I stand on that process when you're evaluating players that

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Speaker 8: might not have played games recently, like some of the

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Speaker 8: guys that you have on the practice squad and right, like,

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Speaker 8: what's that process?

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Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, it's not always perfect, but we are always

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Speaker 3: paying attention to these guys on the practice squad, what

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Speaker 3: the reps are getting. We do try to create some

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Speaker 3: them a stage during practice to perform, which we've done

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Speaker 3: over the years. And so again, we try to look

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Speaker 3: for assistant position coaches a lot of times to work

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Speaker 3: a development of standpoints, disease and goes on. So that's

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Speaker 3: a critical part of I hate to say the bottom

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Speaker 3: part of your roster, but it's those sixteen guys in

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Speaker 3: attention to that as they're running our scout teams. We

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Speaker 3: off season program, you feel like you got information that

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Speaker 5: Can you approve your play calling?

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Speaker 9: Is it opening the playbooks more? Is it we're finding

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Speaker 9: it more for Jake or whoever the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think finding more opportunities for our playmakers to get

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Speaker 3: We haven't been productive enough. I don't worry about statistics

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Speaker 3: right now. I care about wins. That's that's all I

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Speaker 3: we've got to get more productivity, and that's more opportunity

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Speaker 3: from a lot of our key guys on offense to

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Speaker 3: that's that's me finding the cleanest ways to get them

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Speaker 9: Thank you acknowledged in the past that you are very

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Speaker 9: reliant on explosive plays. A lot of teams in the

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Speaker 9: NFL are, but you specifically want to see a good

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Speaker 9: number of explosive plays.

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Speaker 5: When you're struggling so much.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, how much harder is it to find opportunity?

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Speaker 5: It's hard.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're trying to do everything we can, you know.

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Speaker 3: And and so we called a flea flicker in the game.

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Speaker 3: That was almost a catastrophic play for us. And so

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Speaker 3: you're you're ready to do whatever it takes, and sometimes

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Speaker 3: it doesn't work out. Un fortunately scored it on the

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Speaker 3: next player or two plays later. But there's there's pros

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Speaker 3: It's just overall being better. You look at the field

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Speaker 3: position battle yesterday. That's that's all three phases take into account.

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Speaker 3: It was it was horrible in terms of how it

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Speaker 3: was tilted. You know, we had I think three possessions

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of areas that we just weren't good

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Speaker 5: Right now, we got to clean up some of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Give me your comments yesterday. Did you want to add

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Speaker 4: were there any considerations about play call of duties? Is

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Speaker 4: that s something that you're going to retain.

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Speaker 5: I'm still going to retain that move.

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Speaker 4: Was that even a conversation that how much you think

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Speaker 5: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: I've kind of always gotten into that. You know, I

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Speaker 3: rely on our guys on offense as well. There's a

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Speaker 3: ton of input there, and those guys do an outstanding

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Speaker 3: I need. I rely on them as much as I

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Speaker 3: think any play card in the league replies on anybody else.

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Speaker 3: So I feel very comfortable. It's a fair question. We

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Speaker 3: I totally understand that. But right now, that's it's going

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Speaker 3: to remain the same.

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Speaker 10: Could you let these quarterbacks all get kind of their

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Speaker 10: turn their chance on Wednesday and Thursday and practice and

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Speaker 10: see how that goes.

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Speaker 5: You have so few reps, it's just every rep is critical.

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Speaker 5: It might be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you get two reps on a play

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Speaker 3: during the course of the week of pass play. That's

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Speaker 3: that's quite a bit, you know, two full speed reps,

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Speaker 3: so it's difficult to balance quarter you're in on one

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Speaker 3: you gotta find a ways to evaluate the other guys

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Speaker 3: that are on the team in different ways, whether that's

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Speaker 3: on practice squad, whether that's in group install period. You

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Speaker 3: have to use every resource because it is very challenging

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Speaker 3: during the season to get multiple guys reps to evaluate

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Speaker 3: how they're going to look in your offense with your

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Speaker 5: After the game, Jamar said that it's difficult to move

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Speaker 5: the ball when the defenses know exactly what you guys

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Speaker 9: Does it seem like this offense has become a little

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Speaker 9: too predictable?

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Speaker 5: I don't belise.

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Speaker 4: How how does Orlando look physically?

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Speaker 10: And we're seeing plays we're not used to seeing from Orlando.

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Speaker 4: What are you seeing there.

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Speaker 3: From some of the players you're probably seeing we're snap

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Speaker 3: count you know, we've there were some issues there yesterday

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Speaker 3: make sure we're getting everybody in advantage. And it's a

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Speaker 3: different reason for each one really.

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Speaker 5: To be truthful.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if that's exactly what you're pinpointing there,

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Speaker 3: because that was that was a couple of them.

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Speaker 9: One of them player.

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Speaker 3: The forty flicker is a re engage play right where

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Speaker 3: your guy starts to let up because he thinks it's

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Speaker 5: So that's when we got to be better at.

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Speaker 4: Kind of trades that for a quarterback can run the

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Speaker 4: offense effectively. Right now, what are the trades that you

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Speaker 4: probably value the most and what you'll need right now?

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Speaker 5: I'm not that's not in my realhearsh right now, so

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Speaker 5: I'll ask some deals. Tends you a question.

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Speaker 10: A couple of weeks ago, I was talking about the

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Speaker 10: importance of improving third down defense. It feels like that's

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Speaker 10: adjustment that's being made positively. What do you like kind

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Speaker 10: of about the improvements you've seen from the third down

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Speaker 10: defense and the blitzes especially.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they did a great job, man, they

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Speaker 3: you know, for for denver to I mean Detroit to

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Speaker 3: walk away with three points something to carry. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're they're they're not a one dimensional football team. They

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Speaker 3: can beat you a lot of different ways. And so

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Speaker 3: I thought our our scheme did a great job with

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Speaker 3: our coaching staff led by Al and his crew to

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Speaker 3: create a plan that tried to minimize the run game

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Speaker 3: and put pressure on the pass game, which even still

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Speaker 3: with Jared and their skill players, it's a difficult task.

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Speaker 3: But I thought our guys in a back on the

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Speaker 3: back end did a great job. A lot of times

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Speaker 3: we got five man fronts and so you're engaging five

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Speaker 3: D linemen dropping because we've got five D linemen on

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Speaker 3: There was an opportunity there that we we didn't fully

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Speaker 5: The play just went elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: But we got to find ways to maximize both of

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Speaker 3: And again it's I've said everything I need to say

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Speaker 3: He just he made some big plays for us yesterday.

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Speaker 7: It's a tough matchup for the Bengals, and you hate

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Speaker 7: Hungry team. Aaron Glenn is close. Yeah, they've just been

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Speaker 2: Well, they were on Saturday? How about that for Iowa

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Speaker 7: you're going to class and people are singing your praises.

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Speaker 7: It's a little bit easier to take the foot off

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Speaker 7: the gas. That's the opposite of what they did thirty

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Speaker 7: one to seven. At one point they almost put two

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Speaker 7: what was it two sixteen rushing in the first half,

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Speaker 7: and they had given up one to eighteen a game

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Speaker 7: had Iowa State, so almost one hundred yards over the total.

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Speaker 7: It was one of the most physical displays up front,

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Speaker 7: by the way, third time this year offensive line of

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Speaker 7: the week in the Big twelve. Yep, they're playing at

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Speaker 7: such a high level. Sowersby wasn't his best and then

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Speaker 7: made the biggest throw when he needed to, and I

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Speaker 7: thought at times the defense looked rough, and then they

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Speaker 7: got five stops in a row in the second half

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Speaker 7: when they needed.

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Speaker 2: To well, when it felt like the script was going

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Speaker 2: to be familiar again, because I think there were a

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Speaker 2: lot of us thinking this is pit two point zero, right,

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Speaker 2: especially with the way the first half ended garbage PI call,

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Speaker 2: so it goes from thirty one to seven instead it's

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Speaker 2: thirty one fourteen, and you're feeling like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: here we go. And every time in the second half

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Speaker 2: where it felt like the defense needed to get a stop,

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Speaker 2: it did.

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Speaker 7: I think it goes to show that that that's a

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Speaker 7: group that can play with confidence. It's also hard playing

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Speaker 7: another offense that practices against your scheme every day, like

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Speaker 7: that's not easy. Iowa State knows what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 7: You're not gonna surprise anybody. But their playmakers made plays

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Speaker 7: when they needed it and when a penalty wasn't caught

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Speaker 7: on it. Multiple multiple opportunities given to Iowa State due

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Speaker 7: to penalties, some warranted, some not. But even that part

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Speaker 7: of it, even that aspect, I thought they responded well

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Speaker 7: to adversity at different times in that game. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if I've seen a more dominant half offensively by

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Speaker 7: a football team in a long time, especially by an

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Speaker 7: offensive line, especially by.

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Speaker 6: The offensive line who I know.

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Speaker 7: I said, you and I are probably haters of the

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Speaker 7: second and ten run more than anybody. It was UC's

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Speaker 7: best weapon on Saturday. Six different times they got twelve

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Speaker 7: or more yards on second long runs. They're just operating

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Speaker 7: with confidence. They got a good group up front, protecting

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Speaker 7: receivers are coming into their own. The way they use

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Speaker 7: Royer for the touchdown when I thought was phenomenal. I'd

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Speaker 7: still like to see them use him more on those

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Speaker 7: short yarded situations and getting Dante Corleone back and getting

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Speaker 7: some confidence on the defensive side of the ball. I

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Speaker 7: like where they're at and Oh, by the way, there

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Speaker 7: are light years from where they were last year on

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Speaker 7: special teams.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna bring that up and Max Fletcher had

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Speaker 2: a couple of bad punts, including the one at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game where they inexplicably decided to back

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Speaker 2: the ball out of bounds. But beyond that, Russknack the

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Speaker 2: kicker has been perfect. They had a ball where they

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Speaker 2: downed it inside the five, which, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: Bengals could learn how to do this with their putter

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Speaker 2: Ryan Rico, who just seems content to try to kick

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Speaker 2: the ball into the stands. But that was something you

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Speaker 2: and I talked about a lot this summer. The special

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Speaker 2: teams play last year was atrocious, yep. And the small

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Speaker 2: margin for ERA last year was made even smaller because

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Speaker 2: they were so bad in that area. It has turned

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Speaker 2: into a.

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Speaker 7: Weapon, yeah, and it's been a strong weapon, not only

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Speaker 7: the punt, but you know, we mentioned this with mc

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Speaker 7: pherson in the offseason for the Bengals as a quarterback,

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Speaker 7: if you know, and let's say for Russknack, it's the

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Speaker 7: thirty yard line. If you're inside the thirty and you're

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Speaker 7: facing a third down, if you're not confident in the

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Speaker 7: guy that's gonna come on and kick you got a

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Speaker 7: higher likelihood and maybe try and fit a pass into

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Speaker 7: a window you shouldn't, or take a chance instead if

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Speaker 7: it's not there, burn it, live to see another down

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Speaker 7: and take the three points. It's just a weapon that

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Speaker 7: they didn't possess last year that they are now in

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Speaker 7: possession of, and it it makes them even harder to

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Speaker 7: defend because then as a defense on third and short,

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Speaker 7: now you're trying to force a negative play. You want

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Speaker 7: to bring pressure, you want to add something leaves your

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Speaker 7: vulnerable on the back end. So they work in unison

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Speaker 7: really well. We talked about the Lions, how they seemingly

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Speaker 7: work off each other and everything they do to a sense,

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Speaker 7: that's UC's offense. R Walker is the power back Prior

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Speaker 7: is the explosive back sworersby can run it. They're utilizing

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Speaker 7: their receivers in multiple ways. They hit them with the

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Speaker 7: jets sweeps, they widen the defense out, they take shots

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Speaker 7: over the top when they need to. They're just they're

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Speaker 7: well balanced and Scott Saderfield seems to have a good

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Speaker 7: grip on who they are offensively.

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Speaker 2: This feels different than last year. At the same time,

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Speaker 2: last year they were five and two and then never

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Speaker 2: one again. What should make someone feel like history won't

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Speaker 2: repeat itself.

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Speaker 7: More consistence on the offensive side of the ball, I

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Speaker 7: think is the biggest. I think special teams plays a role,

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Speaker 7: and I think defense, even though the last two weeks

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Speaker 7: haven't been great, I think Kansas is gonna put up

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Speaker 7: a lot of points on a lot of teams. That's

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Speaker 7: not a good matchup for a three to three five defense.

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Speaker 7: The way Kansas shifts and moves, and you didn't have

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Speaker 7: Dante Corleone. I think the defense is more consistent, but overall,

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Speaker 7: the offense is playing at such a higher level and

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Speaker 7: they're just in rhythm with everything that they do.

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Speaker 6: And let's call it what it is. The schedule is

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Speaker 6: in favor of them.

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Speaker 7: They're ten and a half point favorites on Saturday, They're

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Speaker 7: gonna be favorites in Oklahoma State by the time eight

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Speaker 7: or by the way eight PM start, They'll be favored

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Speaker 7: against Baylor coming back home. Their toughest matchup still is

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Speaker 7: BYU that's a home game late in the year. So

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Speaker 7: they best team in the league right now. They miss

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Speaker 7: Arizona State. It's a good team.

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Speaker 6: I think the schedules are a lot more favorable as well.

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Speaker 2: And they might not get UCF starting quarterback Tenn Jackson,

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Speaker 2: who got injured in that game against against Kansas four

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Speaker 2: and one. It does feel like to me the difference

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Speaker 2: is this last year and the second half of the season,

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Speaker 2: the offense went into a shell because they didn't have

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Speaker 2: dudes on the outside. I think they've got dudes on

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Speaker 2: the outside.

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Speaker 7: They were easier to guard last year a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: take away the run game, load the box, make somebody

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Speaker 7: beat you. They didn't have it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case this year.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 7: They can beat you in so many different ways, with

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Speaker 7: so many different guys.

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Speaker 2: I said this to you on the pregame show yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You stepped in for Jim Kelly yet again on Saturday

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Speaker 2: and did an awesome job doing color, which is no surprise.

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Speaker 2: We do want to on this show at least make

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Speaker 2: sure that folks are aware that Jim is stepped away

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. It's fighting cancer and

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Speaker 2: we're rooting for him, and ask our audience if they

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Speaker 2: can send him some good wishes, because the cool thing

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Speaker 2: about Saturday was they won the game and then all

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Speaker 2: of us felt the exact same thing. This was for

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Speaker 2: Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've said it a couple of times. I think

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Speaker 7: the Kelly fan, you see his royalty like you think

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Speaker 7: of excellence. You think of the Kelly family and the

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Speaker 7: impact that they've had as a whole on the University

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Speaker 7: of Cincinnati. And yet that legacy and that excellence comes

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Speaker 7: far short of how amazing of a person he is. Yes,

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Speaker 7: like excellence in sports. The person that Jim is, family man,

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Speaker 7: nicest guy, shirt off his back, everything that you'd ever need,

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Speaker 7: he's Uh, he's there for and uh, we're certainly pulling

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Speaker 7: for him. I think of road trips that we've been at,

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Speaker 7: like I'm gonna miss road trips, just not so much

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Speaker 7: for the game, but being able to hang out with

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Speaker 7: Jim and go to dinner and have drinks the night

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Speaker 7: before that was always a highlight for me as well.

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Speaker 7: So he's missed and our thoughts are certainly with him

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Speaker 7: and the battle that he's facing, and and we wish him, uh,

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Speaker 7: nothing but the best.

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Speaker 2: No one personifies U see football more and no one's

598
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Speaker 2: more synonymous, and no one cares about that program more,

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Speaker 2: and we care about Jim, so certainly sending him our

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Speaker 2: best and uh and it was it was really cool

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Speaker 2: that I think everybody felt the exact same thing. After

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Speaker 2: that game mended. The Bearcats won one for Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five away from four o'clock. We're at twin Peaks?

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Speaker 6: What else can we do? Can we do more? UC?

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Speaker 6: We do basketball?

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Speaker 7: That's offseason, a little basketball. What else can we do

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Speaker 7: with the cat Because I know what's coming and I

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Speaker 7: don't know if I'm ready for it yet.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we're a little behind for the hour here.

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Speaker 2: I gotta do sports headlines.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Baseball playoffs, Yeah, baseball playoffs? What I wrote some

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Speaker 7: other stuff down Baseball playoffs? FC Cincinnati c Cincinnati, Penn

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Speaker 7: State lost, and the world of sports rejoiced. Uh and

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Speaker 7: Mark Sheldon said that all the Reds coaching staff has

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Speaker 7: been invited back. So let's dive into maybe all of

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Speaker 7: those things.

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Speaker 2: We will, we will.

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Speaker 6: I'm worried about where we're going.

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Speaker 2: Sunday for the Bengals, said quote, We'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: Not the most ringing endorsement for Jake Browning Bengals and

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Speaker 2: Chiefs at Jags College Football u SES. Jake Golday named

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Speaker 2: The offensive line for the third time this season named

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelves Offensive Line of the Week. Cincinnati just

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Speaker 2: pole at twenty six, twenty eighth in the coaches poll.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State retains the top spot in both poles. Indiana

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Speaker 2: Stoop Show, though, is tonight at six on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Baseball playoffs a pair of Nationally Division Series Game twos,

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Speaker 2: Dodgers and Phillies in Philly, LA came back from an

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Speaker 2: the Brewers have a one to zero series lead over

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Speaker 2: the Cubs. Milwaukee hosting Game two tonight. First pitch a

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Speaker 2: little bit after nine pm and H Reports and Terry

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Speaker 2: Frank Thomas says all of his coaches are invited.

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Speaker 6: Everyone's welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I did think it made the playoffs. I did take

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Speaker 2: a key to the season was great first base coaching

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Speaker 2: by Colin cal Gill. Yes, when I watched the Reds

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Speaker 2: this year, I thought to myself, he's doing a really

666
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Speaker 2: good job during the first coach Kidney, come on, come on,

667
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Speaker 2: all right, I know you don't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: Take a break in a few minutes, all right. Jake

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Speaker 2: Browning's play yesterday was putrid, and I do not care

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Speaker 2: that he threw a couple of garbage time touchdown passes

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Speaker 2: when the game was in the balance. He's stunk at

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Speaker 2: one point. Because Jake Browning stunk so bad, Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: was leading the team in tackles. If there's one thing

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Speaker 2: I think we learned yesterday, by the way, it's that

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is among the team's more reliable tacklers. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jermaine got released by the Raiders. He could

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Speaker 2: perhaps learn something from Jamar Chase. My question for you, though,

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Speaker 2: is this, Jake Browning did do a nice job in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Sure he was undrafted when he had success

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Speaker 2: with the Bengals in twenty twenty three. NFL teams which

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Speaker 2: are starved for quarterbacks weren't exactly knocking down the Bengals

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Speaker 2: door to try to get him. He's a dude who

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Speaker 2: bounced around a little bit. He was never drafted. Should

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Speaker 2: we be shocked that his poor play is as bad

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Speaker 2: as it's been since he took over for Sober.

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Speaker 7: He didn't get drafted for a reason. He's a backup

687
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Speaker 7: for a reason. The shocking point of it is that

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Speaker 7: he's still the quarterback of the Bengals. The shocking point

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Speaker 7: that weeks ago they did not bring someone in house

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Speaker 7: just to get them up the speed in case this happened.

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Speaker 7: That's what's shocking. He can't start another game for the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: This team went nineteen possessions without a touchdown, nineteen to

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Speaker 7: trade possessions. You mentioned Jamar Chase being a leading tackler.

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Speaker 7: At one point in the second quarter, he had thrown

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Speaker 7: more interceptions than yards park completion, two interceptions in one

696
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Speaker 7: point eight yards per completion. He he misses more and

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Speaker 7: this is to me why and I try to break

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Speaker 7: it down in these videos, Zach gets a ton of

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Speaker 7: heat and rightfully so. There are plays called that if

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Speaker 7: you just take the simplest of reeds for a quarterback,

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Speaker 7: you are going to succeed. Throws are just blatantly missed.

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Speaker 7: Reads are blatantly missed. When he does throw it to

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Speaker 7: the right receiver, it's just not in a good spot

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Speaker 7: to make a catch. The accuracy is not there. It

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Speaker 7: looked like a quarterback version of the yips. When he

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Speaker 7: threw the third pick yesterday, hitting himself in the helmet,

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Speaker 7: the look on his face was unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: To put it into perspective.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty four, Joe Burrow dropped back nine hundred and

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Speaker 7: sixty nine hundred and fifty two times. He threw six

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Speaker 7: or nine interceptions. Jake Browning has thrown eight interceptions in

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Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty four attempts. Just that stat alone,

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Speaker 7: you can't tell me that you're interested in winning if

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Speaker 7: you're putting him out there.

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Speaker 6: And I get bad plays happen.

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Speaker 7: The announcers were trying to find an excuse on the

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Speaker 7: interception to Jamar Chase down the field.

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Speaker 6: He had a clean pocket.

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Speaker 7: He hitched up and he threw the ball what seemed

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Speaker 7: like as hard as he could and it went forty

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Speaker 7: five yards in the air.

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Speaker 6: Was there a stiff win yesterday at the stadium.

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Speaker 7: No, he missed Jamar Chase on the first interception, on

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Speaker 7: a throw that any quarterback should make. You know you

725
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Speaker 7: miss outside and if not, reset your feet and hit

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Speaker 7: t Higgins in your progression in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 7: But the worst the defense actually played well fourteen to

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Speaker 7: three coming out of the half. Go get a touchdown

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Speaker 7: and see what happens. And you threw your worst of

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Speaker 7: the interceptions to start the third quarter. How he finished

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Speaker 7: the game, I don't know how he could ever start

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Speaker 7: another game for this team.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I will ask you in a few minutes about the

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Speaker 2: weird sequence at the end of the first half, because

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Speaker 2: I hate how that unfolded. But my thought at halftime,

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Speaker 2: wandering the concourse amid all the Lions was, Okay, Jake,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you one series in the second half. Yep, right,

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Speaker 2: I've given you a long leash. I've watched you sink

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Speaker 2: our team the previous two weeks. I've watched you in

741
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Speaker 2: the first half put us behind the eight ball. I

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Speaker 2: will give you, though. I will give you the first

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Speaker 2: drive of the second half, and if we don't see

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Speaker 2: seven points or at least dramatic improvement. I gotta try

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Speaker 2: somebody else. I'd put on social media, like put in

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Speaker 2: the other guy. I don't even care who the other

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Speaker 2: guy is. Any living, breathing human being with at least

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Speaker 2: one arm put in there, whether it's Brett Rippen or

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Speaker 2: anybody else, I do not know. I don't know how

750
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Speaker 2: you could look at the other players on the team,

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Speaker 2: say what you want about the roster, including guys you

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Speaker 2: have benched for poor performance, and look at them and

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Speaker 2: say we're gonna stay with number six.

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Speaker 7: But that's part of the problem. If three weeks ago

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Speaker 7: they went out and signed Russell Wilson and he was

756
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Speaker 7: on the roster, would he have been put in yesterday?

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Speaker 2: I would like to think so.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he'd have been putting in at halftime.

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Speaker 7: But the fact that you didn't sign him or any

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Speaker 7: other quarterback outside of again, no offense to Sean Clifford

761
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Speaker 7: and Mike White. If it's any other quarterback, he's in

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Speaker 7: the game yesterday. But the fact that you didn't do

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Speaker 7: your work. Then again, fourteen three at a half, you

764
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Speaker 7: could turn to Russ, you could turn to anyone else. Hey,

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Speaker 7: go get us back in this thing instead another futrid interception,

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Speaker 7: and here we are again. To me the statement last week,

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Speaker 7: utmost confidence in Jake Browning lie has to be And there's.

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Speaker 6: No way I was.

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Speaker 7: I was in the locker room for a one win

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Speaker 7: team in Carolina that's not flying. There's no one in

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Speaker 7: that locker room that's believing that Jake Browning is giving

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Speaker 7: them a chance to win.

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Speaker 6: And the longer you keep.

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Speaker 7: This up, the more and more you lose the locker room.

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Speaker 2: So it's Monday at three forty eight. Yeah, Zach Taylor

776
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: said forty minutes ago. Quote, We'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's a guy in the building right now finalizing

778
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Speaker 2: the and he's gonna practice tomorrow and be the starting

779
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Speaker 2: quarterback on Sunday. Maybe right now it's Jake Browning or

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Speaker 2: Brett Rippan are one of those other dudes. Now, Brett

781
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Speaker 2: Rippin might be better than Jake Browning. Frankly, it's hard

782
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: to imagine he could be any worse. But like the

783
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: game happened almost twenty four hours ago.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So if they if they haven't brought in somebody else today,

786
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: like could they? I know other teams could because I've

787
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: seen other teams do it. Could they bring in somebody

788
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Speaker 2: from outside, have them practice on Wednesday and feel like

789
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: they could win at Green Bay on Sunday?

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Speaker 7: It would bring in in someone from the outside. Practicing

791
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Speaker 7: on Wednesday would give them a better chance to win

792
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Speaker 7: at Green Bay.

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Speaker 6: I agree easily.

794
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Speaker 7: You could bring someone in Thursday and I'd still say

795
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Speaker 7: it gives them a better chance to win in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: They could pick somebody up in Appleton, Wisconsin on Sunday morning,

797
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: and I think would give him a better chance in

798
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Speaker 2: beating the Packers than Jake Browning.

799
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Speaker 7: Because the throws that Jake Brownie missed not crazy reads.

800
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Speaker 7: It's not confusing reads. It's very simple. Just put the

801
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 7: ball where it needs to go and read the right

802
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Speaker 7: side of the field. They didn't do any of that.

803
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 7: Like that's why. Again, there was a point I said

804
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Speaker 7: to my wife yesterday, I think BROWNI was eight of

805
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: seventeen for thirty one yards. I think I could have

806
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Speaker 7: done that. I legit think I could have shown up

807
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Speaker 7: and done that yesterday. Now scrambling around the throat of no, yeah,

808
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Speaker 7: I'm out, but yeah, what he did in the first

809
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Speaker 7: half as bad as bad a quarterback performance as I

810
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Speaker 7: remember seeing and the fact that he came back out

811
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Speaker 7: do an interception to start the third quarter and still

812
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Speaker 7: finished the game is remarkable to me.

813
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Speaker 2: So after the Jacksonville game, most of us felt like, Okay,

814
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: their championship hopes went up and smoked because Burrow's not healthy,

815
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: but they should still be able to win games because

816
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: this is a decent backup quarterback. We felt that way

817
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Speaker 2: because of what we watched from him two years ago. Yep,

818
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Speaker 2: why why do the sudden drop off? Like what if

819
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: we're watching critically two years ago versus now, what are

820
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: you pointing out that he did well two years ago

821
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Speaker 2: that he seemingly can't do now.

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Speaker 7: The fact that they have zero semblance of a running

823
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 7: game hurts, sure, because you can run screens and you

824
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 7: can do under center, but if no one respects that

825
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 7: you're going to run the ball, it doesn't matter.

826
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Speaker 6: No one's biting on it.

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Speaker 7: You know, they tried to run the screen on the

828
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Speaker 7: third and fifteen early and they couldn't even come close

829
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Speaker 7: to it because no one's biting on a run.

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Speaker 6: No one's believing in that.

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Speaker 7: So the inability to have any semblance of a running game,

832
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Speaker 7: which by the way, it's hard to have a semblance

833
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Speaker 7: of a running game when you give up on it.

834
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Speaker 7: As well, most teams run early so that they can

835
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Speaker 7: run late. They don't stick to the running game at all.

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Speaker 7: But ken you when you're always down twenty eight three,

837
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Speaker 7: Yeah that's a problem as well.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, should down twenty eight three each in the

839
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Speaker 2: last three games.

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Speaker 7: But outside of that, in the offensive line, I don't

841
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Speaker 7: know that there are many differences that you can point

842
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Speaker 7: to that team years ago could have a little bit

843
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 7: better success running the ball the game Jake Brownie took over.

844
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Speaker 7: We highlighted that here in Westchester in the wins and

845
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 7: those four wins, the one constant was they were all

846
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 7: able to run the ball at different times throughout those games.

847
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Speaker 7: They can't do that now, which means the quarterback has

848
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Speaker 7: to shoulder more of the load. Which again, great high school,

849
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Speaker 7: great college career.

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Speaker 6: Undrafted for a reason, I.

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Speaker 2: Want to make a correction, The Bengals didn't trail Minnesota

852
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: twenty eight three. Oh, they trailed twenty four to three,

853
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: and then thirty one to three, okay, and then thirty

854
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Speaker 2: four to three, forty one to three, and forty eight three.

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Speaker 7: So sorry that sorry about that. The game never felt

856
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Speaker 7: winnable yesterday. I think that was the most demoralizing thing

857
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Speaker 7: for me.

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Speaker 2: Tony didn't feel winnable at noon yesterday. No. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we did a three hour pregame show. I cannot recall

860
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: ever hosting a pregame show with you or anybody else where.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even entertain the possibility they would win. No,

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Speaker 2: And that to me is the most frustrating thing. What

863
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Speaker 2: we we watched ended up being what we assumed we

864
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Speaker 2: would see. Yeah, from Jake Browning and everybody else.

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Speaker 7: And I go back to what we talked about on

866
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Speaker 7: the pregame show yesterday. Jamar Chase said last week we

867
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Speaker 7: need more anger and fire. Where's it coming from?

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Speaker 2: Uh, It's gonna come from Taran if we keep going

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Speaker 2: eight away from four o'clock Twin Peaks in Westchester, Tony

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Speaker 2: So far in the first hour program, it's been it's

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Speaker 2: been amazing. There's you know, what we do on the

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Speaker 2: air is a lot of fun. Yeah, But I really

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Speaker 2: do encourage people to come to Twin Peaks because sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's the stuff that you can't.

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Speaker 7: Hear on the radio. This commercial breaks really is the key. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and I think we just experienced one of those. It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And at the very core, we may be on the

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Speaker 7: cusp of getting Joe Burrow back.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you expand on that.

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Speaker 7: How about the defense from yesterday? I have to do

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Speaker 7: some more research before I can divulge anything else that

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Speaker 7: I have.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot happening.

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Speaker 7: There is a lot happening, and there's deals most like

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Speaker 7: our holiday shows going on.

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Speaker 6: It feels like a bye week or the holiday.

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Speaker 2: It's it's week five, the week five. We're going to

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Speaker 2: do aught though it is another tough matchup. So I

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Speaker 2: could not encourage you more to come to the Tony

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Speaker 2: and Mo Football Show at Twin Peaks, because you know,

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Speaker 2: it really is an immersive experience that you have to

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Speaker 2: sort of enjoy.

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Speaker 6: In person, see to believe, see to believe.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk more about Jake

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Speaker 2: Browning in the game itself yesterday and all of that.

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Speaker 2: Here's my first issue with the Bengals as they currently stand.

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Speaker 2: This organization is built on one thing. It's built on

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow elevating everybody else. It is a flimsy plan

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Speaker 2: because number one, you can't keep Joe healthy. Also, last year,

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Speaker 2: Joe was healthy and played great, he was awesome. The

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Speaker 2: team finished nine and eight. They had to win their

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Speaker 2: last five games to even have a chance to make

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Speaker 2: the postseason. That if anything exposed last year, the holes

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Speaker 2: on the roster, the flaws that are sort of built

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Speaker 2: into this organization. So what happens this year? Joe isn't healthy,

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Speaker 2: Joe can't play, and so this already shaky premise of

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Speaker 2: have Joe elevate everybody now it falls apart. The entire

939
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Speaker 2: thing collapses, And yes, Jake Browning has been terrible, and

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Speaker 2: yes they should be examining any and all options at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But I look at the team left in the wake

942
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Speaker 2: of Joe Burrow leaving to go on IR and I

943
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Speaker 2: see a bad roster, not good. I have a hard time, Tony,

944
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Speaker 2: I will. I'll remove rookies from this conversation. So Shamar Stewart,

945
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Speaker 2: Demetrius Knight, Barrett Carter, guys like that, Dylan Fairchild, look

946
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Speaker 2: at everybody else. I can't find five players I'm excited

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Speaker 2: about being on next year's team.

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Speaker 6: They're not a good team.

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Speaker 7: The team and the premise is built on Joe Burrow

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Speaker 7: to go be great like he was last year. Went oh,

951
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Speaker 7: by the way, he was great statistically, Jamar Chase won

952
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Speaker 7: the Triple Crown, Trey Hendrickson led the league in sacks,

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Speaker 7: and they missed the playoffs. You essentially ran it back

954
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Speaker 7: with the same thing. I'm a firm believer that nothing

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Speaker 7: in their development and personnel decisions matches what they want

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Speaker 7: to do scheme wise. Because Burrow being healthy, that you

957
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Speaker 7: put all your eggs into the basket of let's get

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Speaker 7: better pass protections, which are still not He still failed

959
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Speaker 7: on that, but in doing so, you don't have one

960
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Speaker 7: above average run blocker on your offensive line. Defensively, you

961
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Speaker 7: were built to bend, but don't break. Just limit teams

962
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Speaker 7: to three or field goal tries and the offense is

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Speaker 7: going to score the points. Now, what are we asking

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Speaker 7: the defense to do?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 7: They gotta be better. They don't have the personnel to

967
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Speaker 7: be better. They're a bad defense. Cam Taylor Brett can't cover,

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Speaker 7: Josh Newton can't cover. Yesterday, they asked Cam Sample and

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Speaker 7: Joseph Osai to cover. Neither of them can cover. Logan

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Speaker 7: Wilson right now can't cover. And if your name's not

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Speaker 7: Trey Hendrickson, they really can't get after the passer. They

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Speaker 7: are void of talent and void of coaching that can

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Speaker 7: out scheme and out manage the lack of talent to

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Speaker 7: bring success a lah what Shanahan did on Thursday Night

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Speaker 7: Football with Mac Jones. They don't have the ability and

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Speaker 7: the coaching staff to do that. They don't have the

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Speaker 7: roster to do it. And when you don't have Joe

978
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Speaker 7: Burrow to say, hey, roll them on out there, go

979
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Speaker 7: be great. If you don't like what I call, just

980
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Speaker 7: change it. At to the line of scrimmage when you

981
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Speaker 7: don't have any of that. You're going to see what

982
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Speaker 7: you're seeing now, which is a team that's not competitive

983
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Speaker 7: and a team that's not able, like we see across

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Speaker 7: the NFL. To shock anybody, we mentioned yesterday Carolina one

985
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Speaker 7: a game thirty to nothing over the Atlanta Falcons. How

986
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Speaker 7: they're not a better roster? How does San Francisco win

987
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Speaker 7: on Thursday night? How does the Giants without a win

988
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Speaker 7: and a rookie quarterback beat the Chargers? It happens throughout

989
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Speaker 7: the end, all the time. The Bengals don't have the

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Speaker 7: ability to do that because, in my opinion, they don't

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Speaker 7: have the coaching to do it. And when you don't

992
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Speaker 7: have the coach and they also don't have the roster.

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Speaker 2: To back it up, right, So it's it's like chicken

994
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Speaker 2: of the egg. It's like a hamster, right, I mean,

995
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Speaker 2: it's just But the frustrating thing for me is at

996
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Speaker 2: the end of last season, we looked at that team

997
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Speaker 2: and said not good enough. Yeah, not good enough. The

998
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Speaker 2: record told you as much. Defensively, what did they do?

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Speaker 2: Same group of DB's back, same money, same group of

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Speaker 2: d one guy you asked to take a pack of cut,

1001
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Speaker 2: same group of DB's back. Yeah, So why would anybody

1002
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Speaker 2: be surprised that the same group of dbs is struggling

1003
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Speaker 2: this year now? But having Schamar Stewart healthy would probably help.

1004
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Speaker 2: But they have been struggling to find a consistent pass

1005
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Speaker 2: rush minus Trey Hendrickson for a while now. They looked

1006
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Speaker 2: at their defense last year and said, we don't need

1007
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Speaker 2: an overhaul. We need to basically run it back with

1008
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Speaker 2: all these guys and and Al Golden is gonna get

1009
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Speaker 2: significantly better results from last year's unit. The offensive line,

1010
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Speaker 2: we have beaten this to death. It's not been because

1011
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: of lack of trying. It's not been because of lack

1012
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Speaker 2: of financial investment. Duke Tobin hasn't gotten it done. The

1013
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Speaker 2: offensive line has stunk for a decade. Now, did it

1014
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 2: feel like they went to the end of the earth.

1015
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: They were still signing offensive lineman with a week to

1016
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Speaker 2: go before the season started in Dalton Reisner, and that

1017
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: guy lasted three games. So you have areas of your

1018
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: team that weren't good last year or who have or

1019
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: that have stunk for a while, and Duke Tobin did

1020
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Speaker 2: next to nothing with either.

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Speaker 6: I heard Austin say it today.

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Speaker 7: If the season ended today, and you're going in the offseason,

1023
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Speaker 7: you can make the argument you need a left tackle,

1024
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Speaker 7: center and.

1025
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Speaker 6: A right guard.

1026
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Speaker 7: Uh huh already, uh huh. And that's hoping Mims and

1027
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Speaker 7: fair Child get better. That's just on the old line already.

1028
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 7: What do we talk about twelve personnel? Yesterday? Mikeasicki played

1029
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 7: thirty one snaps.

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Speaker 6: That's half.

1031
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Speaker 7: Drew Sample played twenty seven snaps, Noah Fan played fifteen.

1032
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Speaker 7: Tanner Hudson played one. So now we've already seen them

1033
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Speaker 7: abandon twelve personnel. See Higgins can't get him open to

1034
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Speaker 7: save their life. Right, So, offensively, this scheme doesn't match

1035
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 7: the personnel. Again, defensively, Holy moly. We asked on the

1036
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Speaker 7: first drive of the game yesterday, Mo Joseph Osai to

1037
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Speaker 7: cover Sam Laporta. Second drive, we asked Cam Sample to

1038
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Speaker 7: cover Sam Laporta. We have guys, mo Demetrious Knight was drafted.

1039
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Speaker 7: Why he can cover and he's athletic. Logan Wilson played

1040
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Speaker 7: one hundred percent of the snaps. Demetrius Knight played fifty

1041
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Speaker 7: eight percent, Barreck Carter fifty three percent.

1042
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure Barrett Carter's snap count should be zero. Yeah,

1043
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that dude can play right.

1044
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Speaker 7: I don't either, but it's like, nothing makes sense. You

1045
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Speaker 7: drafted Demetrius Knight to be a cover guy. Why is

1046
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 7: Logan Wilson now back to one hundred percent of the

1047
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 7: naps and you're taking Demetrius Knight snaps making it up

1048
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Speaker 7: as they go along. And what's we're baffling to me?

1049
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Speaker 7: Their best player on defense, Trey Hendrickson. What were we

1050
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Speaker 7: told in the offseason when Tray was away. Trey does

1051
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 7: a great job keeping his body ready. He'll be ready

1052
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Speaker 7: to go. Trey Hendrickson yesterday did not play as many

1053
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Speaker 7: snaps as Joseph Osai.

1054
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Speaker 6: Now two weeks ago.

1055
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Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna trade him. You can't get him hurt.

1056
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Speaker 6: Two weeks ago?

1057
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Speaker 7: What we say in Denver man Hendrickson was on the

1058
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Speaker 7: sideline every time I saw him.

1059
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Speaker 6: He played sixty percent of the.

1060
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Speaker 7: Snaps yesterday with Shamar Stewart out of the game. So

1061
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Speaker 7: you're shorthanded and you already lack playmakers, and Trey Hendrickson

1062
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 7: can't play more than sixty percent of the snaps. Nothing

1063
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Speaker 7: about the personnel and the scheme makes sense with this

1064
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Speaker 7: team from the way they've been built to the way

1065
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Speaker 7: they've been coached, by the way short sample size. Lu

1066
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Speaker 7: An Arumo's got a top five defense cooking now an Indy.

1067
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Speaker 7: Oh crazy, how that works?

1068
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Speaker 6: Oh?

1069
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 7: Al Golden was asked to do the impossible, come in

1070
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 7: and don't touch the defense and just expect to be better.

1071
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 7: I don't understand snap counts. Josh Newton played three snaps yesterday.

1072
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 7: Cam Taylor brit played twenty two. Like nothing in these

1073
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 7: it looks like mo They sit there and they're just

1074
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 7: throwing darts on a board and see it.

1075
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Speaker 6: Okay, let's see if this sticks.

1076
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Speaker 2: Well, And you mentioned Al Golden and Al Golden doesn't

1077
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Speaker 2: get a pass either because he took the job and

1078
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm guessing signed off on Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, tell

1079
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Speaker 2: you what. Let's let's bring Cam Taylor brick back. In fact,

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Speaker 2: let's not add a dB, let's not add a dB anywhere.

1081
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Speaker 2: Let's bring back all these dudes. I can do better

1082
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Speaker 2: with him. Well you can't. And as much as you'll

1083
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Speaker 2: hear from folks, well you know, Jake Browning put him

1084
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Speaker 2: in some short fields and against that offense, they kind

1085
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Speaker 2: of held their own. Here's what I said all off season. Okay,

1086
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Speaker 2: miss me with this league average defense crap, Because what

1087
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: I care about is in the fourth quarter, can you

1088
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: get stops? Can you get off the field? Can you

1089
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: finish games? Can you give your quarterback a chance? They

1090
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: scored the touchdown yesterday with over ten minutes to go

1091
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: where Browning actually completes a pass to his best tacklers, Chase.

1092
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: So it's twenty eight to seventeen. They're in the game. Yeah,

1093
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: they don't have great chances of winning the game, but

1094
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: they're in it. They're down by two scores, they've got

1095
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: a measure of momentum, they've got more than ten minutes.

1096
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: They need a stop. All off season as we're hearing

1097
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 2: about how great Al Golden's gonna do with all these

1098
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: crappy players from last year, and I'm hearing about how

1099
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: just gotta be a league average, just gotta be a

1100
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: league average. Well, right there, I need better than league average,

1101
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: right there, I need a stop or a turnover. What

1102
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: did I get? Eight plays, sixty eight yards a five

1103
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: minute drive that ended the game. So miss me with

1104
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: this league average stuff, Miss me with how great Al

1105
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: Golden's gonna do with the same guys. Because with the

1106
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: game and the season hanging in the balance in the

1107
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: fourth quarter yesterday, that didn't happen.

1108
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 7: Ye, they're poorly coached and they're a bad roster. Special

1109
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 7: teams has been bad. Defense has been bad. You mentioned

1110
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 7: that drive. It wasn't like they like Detroit converted a

1111
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 7: bunch of third law. They never got to thurn down.

1112
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 7: It was anything Detroit wanted to do. It felt mo

1113
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 7: like a team playing in a preseason game.

1114
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 2: It did.

1115
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 7: It felt like, hey, let's work on this, let's work

1116
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 7: on that. We're not showing anything. Yeah, we're not putting

1117
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 7: anything on that. Is that the excuse me doing that one?

1118
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't want to put anything on film that the

1119
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: Packers can study, Like here was that drive?

1120
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Speaker 7: Yes, Detroit was probably the worst defense you've seen to

1121
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 7: this point. Good offen, but you don't offer any resistance.

1122
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 7: Bad matchup with all It is a Monree Saint Brown

1123
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 7: seven yards, Saint Brown twenty six yards. Then David mcgoty

1124
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 7: the way on the twenty six yarder camp Taylor Brook

1125
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 7: was about eight yards off in coverage.

1126
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 2: Correct six yard run, five yard run, nine yard run,

1127
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: one yard run on second and one where you knew

1128
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: who was getting in and what they were going to do.

1129
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 7: Then, just that's what I was be able to do.

1130
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 7: If the defense knows what you're gonna do, you should

1131
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 7: be able to stop.

1132
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: It, right, And then a two yard run in Jared

1133
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 2: Goff's touchdown pass which ended the game. So like right there,

1134
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: right there, this Hey, we're bringing all the same guys back. Defense,

1135
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: Al Golden's gonna figure it out. Didn't didn't, So miss

1136
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: me with this defense wasn't that bad yesterday because when

1137
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 2: they needed the defense to step up they couldn't, which

1138
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: it couldn't last year, which it hasn't in any big

1139
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: situation this year. If Brian Thomas doesn't drop that pass

1140
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: in the Jacksonville game, the defense fails.

1141
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 6: There.

1142
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: The defense kind of helped Cleveland stay around. Like I

1143
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: just it's the roster. The roster is so bad. I

1144
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: can't name more than three guys I want on next

1145
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: year's team. And the frustrating thing is we sat around

1146
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: all off season as Duke Tobin willingly shrugged his shoulders

1147
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: and said, can't do anything. Okay, too busy, Jamar and

1148
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 2: t like where we're at. We'll get the same crappy

1149
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: players to a new defensive coordinator and expect different results.

1150
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, they used their first two draft picks on defense,

1151
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 7: like they they made those moves on the defense and

1152
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 7: then drafted two early defensive players to say, because you

1153
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 7: couldn't draft rut Ledge Ratlets from Georgia. Who starts for

1154
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 7: the Lions. By the way, I watched that game. I've

1155
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 7: watched three Lions games this year.

1156
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: Mo.

1157
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 6: That wasn't their a offense yesterday.

1158
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 7: I watched games where they motion and they shift, and

1159
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 7: they used Gibbs and Montgomery and Saint Brown. They were

1160
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 7: as vanilla as I've ever watched them b Yesterday. They

1161
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 7: showed nothing, and when they needed to do it, they

1162
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 7: dominated up and down the field when they needed it

1163
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 7: the most. Campbell wasn't aggressive on fourth downs, he wasn't

1164
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 7: empty in the playbook. That was as basic a Lions

1165
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 7: game plan as you'll see. And they still, whenever they

1166
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 7: wanted to, did whatever they wanted to against this Bengals defense,

1167
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 7: as every other offense is going to continue to do.

1168
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 7: So don't worry about matchups, because here's what's gonna be.

1169
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 7: Christian Watson's coming back for Green Bay this week. Josh Jacobs,

1170
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 7: that's a tough matchup with Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers and

1171
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh always a pesky matchup. Well, here come the Jets,

1172
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 7: and I know they don't have a win, but man,

1173
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 7: justin fields and and Breese Hall, they can create some problems.

1174
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 7: Have you seen the Patriots with Drake May that's a quarterback.

1175
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 7: Now that's gonna give some some problems to a lot

1176
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 7: of people. Everyone will be a badge for this defense.

1177
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 7: Why because the players on the defense stink. The players stink,

1178
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 7: and the one player that doesn't stink can't play more

1179
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 7: than sixty percent of the snaps.

1180
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 6: But he's in such.

1181
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 7: Good shape he's ready to go win. Shamar Stewart's not able.

1182
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 7: If Shamar's healthy and you're rotating, fine, you're shorthanded. Max

1183
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 7: Murphy Miles Murphy played thirteen snaps, Cam Sample played twenty.

1184
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 7: That's your best option to run out there when when

1185
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 7: you need to stop. Because the drive that you're alluding to,

1186
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 7: Hendrickson was on the sidelines. He came off the field

1187
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 7: once to get his hand looked at, and they just

1188
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 7: kept ten.

1189
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 6: On the field.

1190
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 7: Had to take another time out twelve one week ten

1191
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 7: the week, Oh, the Bengals don't have enough players on

1192
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 7: the field, and with the game hanging out the balance

1193
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 7: with the games laughable hanging in the balance. So to me,

1194
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 7: Jake Browning is an awesome meat shield because I expect

1195
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 7: Jake Browning to play poorly, like I do.

1196
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: He's a backup quarterback. My standards aren't that high. I

1197
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: do expect a defense with a bunch of dudes that

1198
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin has looked at and said, I want them

1199
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: to be a part of the turnaround. I expect that

1200
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: unit to play better. I expect the defense to elevate

1201
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: the crappy backup quarterback. It can so just it can't.

1202
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 7: Just add to the list of draft picks now. So

1203
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 7: Miles Murphy thirteen snap, We're done on him? Yeah, former

1204
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 7: first round pick. Another one's gone right, Cam Taylor Britt

1205
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 7: done seen enough?

1206
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: How many more times do you get benched?

1207
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 6: I don't. I'm with you.

1208
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 7: I hope Demetrius Knight's the guy. I hope Shamar Stuart's

1209
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 7: the guy. It's too early to tell who else, and

1210
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 7: it is we're talking a couple of weeks ago that

1211
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 7: Logan Wilson said he was gonna get a snap count

1212
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 7: taken away, and now he's playing one hundred percent of

1213
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 7: the snaps. The personnel, the usage. Nothing makes sense. And

1214
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 7: as bad as that is, Moan, I know we'll get

1215
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 7: into it. Not even the worst I saw yesterday because

1216
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 7: we're gonna talk about.

1217
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 6: A flea flicker at some point today.

1218
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about a flea flicker, and we're gonna

1219
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: talk about whatever it is they were doing at the

1220
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: end of the first half. Oh, twenty four minutes after

1221
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: four o'clock.

1222
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 7: That'll get me in a better mood. You gotta do

1223
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 7: some reading on the break. Let's get to a break.

1224
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: You've got some reading there to do. Yeah, let me

1225
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: all about it. Twenty four minutes after four o'clock, we're

1226
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: a twin peaks in west Chester for a festive edition

1227
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: of The Tony and Mo Football Show on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: Cincinnat good that that week five feels like a bye

1229
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 7: week or the Christmas Show, just just saying as this

1230
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 7: season unfolds.

1231
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 2: We're not even worrying, like you know, long sleeves yet. No,

1232
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: it's a twenty five for ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,680
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Speaker 14: This report.

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00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 15: This is Football in the NATI, brought to you by

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00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 15: Modern Office Methods on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home

1246
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 15: of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1247
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 2: We're going to light the mood, oh by talking about

1248
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: the other teams in the NFC. North wall sting quickly,

1249
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: you know. We started the show by talking about the Bearcats,

1250
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: because winners go first. Yes, I have a neglected to

1251
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: mention one thing that I feel like a lot of

1252
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: folks have talked about in the aftermatch of UC's victory,

1253
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: and that's the fact that the students ran onto the field.

1254
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, the lot of people big mad mo.

1255
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: Now I haven't encountered these folks. Oh, I've been flooded

1256
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: with them, have you, Big Mad?

1257
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 7: Big Mad? You don't rush the field if you're favorite

1258
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 7: in the game.

1259
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: So you see football was not good last year?

1260
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 6: Correct? Bad?

1261
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: You see football the year before was wretched, correct bad.

1262
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: So it's been a few years, we have a coaching change,

1263
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: the growing pains of the Big twelve. Like it's it's

1264
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: been dark, and it feels like the program is turning

1265
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: a corner. And and the big takeaway is the student

1266
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: shoulder phone on the field, and that's that's the big thing.

1267
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 7: And let it be known. Fans were asked to strike

1268
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 7: the stadium, Fans were asked to be loud. Atmosphere is

1269
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 7: unbelievab was great.

1270
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 6: It was great.

1271
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 7: If they want to storm the field and say, hey man,

1272
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 7: that was fun. Let's come back and do it again

1273
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 7: next Saturday. Yeah, look like I'm sorry. You can't be

1274
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 7: begging for a product on the field and then criticism. Well,

1275
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 7: it's embarrassing if your storm the field is as a

1276
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 7: ranked Who's embarrassed?

1277
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: Are you embarrassed?

1278
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 6: I'm not embarrassed.

1279
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed. No, who's embarrassed?

1280
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 6: People? Big Mad?

1281
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: So your favorite team. Yeah, I assume these are Barracat fans.

1282
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 6: I like you've been there before.

1283
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: They haven't. You've been there before in a while.

1284
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 7: Quite some time, in a few years. I just I

1285
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 7: like everything about where this team is going. And I

1286
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 7: like that it feels like like we said, I've said

1287
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 7: this the last couple of weeks with you when I'm

1288
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 7: out or people talk to me years past. What do

1289
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 7: you think about the what it is? Everyone right now

1290
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 7: wants to talk about the Bearcats. They're winning, They have

1291
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 7: a chance to win this week and be ranked in

1292
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 7: the top twenty five. They have a favorable schedule. Everything

1293
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 7: that you They have likable players on the team, very

1294
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 7: think what you want, They have a likable coach. Let

1295
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 7: people enjoy the ride however you want to enjoy it. Yes,

1296
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 7: if you like watching.

1297
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 6: The game, if you like going to the game, if

1298
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 6: you like listening to the game, just enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: I just, for the life of me, I don't understand.

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Speaker 6: It's a fourteenth three team in the country.

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Speaker 2: If you're if you're a fan of the team, like

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Speaker 2: I like, what we as sports fans love to do

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01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: is look down, look down our noses at the fans

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: of the other teams as in the bathroom yesterday and

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Bengals fans are like, oh yeah, Lions call me when

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01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: you get to a Super Bowl. It's like, okay, whatever, dude,

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01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: your team just got shrucked. Yeah, but I get it.

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01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: So if if your go to because you can't stand

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Speaker 2: to see someone else happy, is I root for another

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Speaker 2: team and I'm gonna make fun of the fact that

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Speaker 2: the kids ran on the field. Okay, if you're a

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01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: UC fan and your big takeaway after watching the struggles

1313
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: of the last two years to the team turning the corner,

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01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: and again, I don't think they're home free. I'm a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I'm cautiously optimistic. Yes, I saw them melt

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Speaker 2: down at the end of the season last year. Like,

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Speaker 2: I get it. But if your first take away from

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01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: that game, which there was lots of stuff to that game,

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 2: was you're embarrassed that the fans ran on the field,

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Speaker 2: you know what? Then be embarrassed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, be embarrassed, and your seat and the rest of

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Speaker 7: us run on the field.

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Speaker 2: The rest of us over here will have a good time.

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Speaker 7: It's also pretty cool for students or kids or anyone

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01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 7: to be able to go on the field and have

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Speaker 7: an interaction with the player. I saw pictures of Soresby

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 7: out there taking pictures with kids that storm the field.

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Speaker 7: I ran on member I store in the field in

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Speaker 7: nineteen ninety nine, UC Meat Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ron Dane fullbling into the end zone.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Bearcats won three games that year. As I ran out

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Speaker 2: onto the field, knowing the Bearcats were going to have

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Speaker 2: the best team in college basketball, because that ended up

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Speaker 2: being Keny Martin senior. Here, this is September of ninety nine.

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01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: I encountered a Wisconsin fan. Oh, and this Wisconsin fan

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01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: grabs me and he's like, yeah, hey man, remember when

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: you graduated a basketball player, because that was the thing

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01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: right then. And I looked at the guy and I

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: just said, wait till basketball season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we had the.

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Speaker 2: Number one team in the country. They went to the

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Speaker 2: Final four because our guy broke his leg. That's what

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01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: I get.

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I.

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01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: Did storm the field.

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's a twenty twelve year old young man.

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01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 6: I'm a pro field stormer. Okay.

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01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: As a general rule, I'm not in favor of trespassing. Yeah,

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01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: but in that environment, it's done orderly.

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01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 7: Now two thousand and eight, Pittsburgh, you better wait till

1353
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 7: the games done to storm the field.

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Speaker 2: It's true, but like I get it. Whatever, it was harmless.

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01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: It was fun as a player. Uh huh.

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Speaker 7: Some of my fondest memories were being on the field

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01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 7: as it was being stormed. Oh I bet Syracuse Pittsburgh

1358
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 7: because you're wearing armor. Yeah, and it's just but it's

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Speaker 7: fun because there's so many people excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great visual.

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 7: Like every time, like you're looking at like random friends

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01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 7: and family members are just running around everywhere like crazy,

1363
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 7: and you're like, man, this is awesome. It's when it happens.

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01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 7: It's a cool visual.

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And Saturday I thought was a cool vision. Will quite

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Speaker 2: all right? Sports headlines are next Tony and Moe Football

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Speaker 2: show from Twin Peaks. Doctor reading in in west You

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: got a lot to read there.

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Speaker 6: Man, I am. I'm trying to get pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: Twin Peaks in Westchester on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 15: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 15: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 14: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 13: construction zone. It's an accident near the Kentucky Indiana line

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Speaker 13: Rowan road on that. He's sound like with traffic.

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Speaker 2: I got sports headline. You have a lot to read there, yep.

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01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor says quote, We'll see where it goes. When

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Speaker 2: asked about the quarterback situation on Sunday Bengals and Packers

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01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: at lambeau Field, also maintains he will continue to call

1392
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: plays that game Sundays at four twenty five live on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Monday Night Football Tonight, Chiefs at Jaggs

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Speaker 2: you'll hear it on ESPN fifteen thirty after the Mark

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: Stoop Show at six. I have a feeling we're not

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01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: going to be teasing the Mark Stoop Show much longer.

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Speaker 6: Feels like it feels like it.

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Speaker 2: College football the UC Bearcats twenty sixth just on the

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Speaker 2: outside looking into the ap Top twenty five Pole, twenty

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Speaker 2: eighth Coaches Poll. A Jake Golda named the Defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Week in the Big Twelve. Offensive line for

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Speaker 2: the third time this season, named the o line of

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Speaker 2: the Week in the league. Ohio State after a pretty

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Speaker 2: business like dominant performance against Minnesota is still number one

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Speaker 2: in both polls. Indiana remains in the top ten ranks

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: seventh in both baseball playoffs. Tonight a pair of National

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Speaker 2: League games, Game two in the series between the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: and Phillies, Philly hosting Dodgers up one to oh Brewers

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Speaker 2: are home after blowing out the Cubs in Game one.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers Philly game starts at six to eight. Cubs

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Speaker 2: and Brewers in Milwaukee starts at nine oh eight. Uh,

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Speaker 2: we are at twin Peaks in Westchester. It's the Tony

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Speaker 2: and Mo Football Show. Can you explain to me what

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: the Bengals were doing at the end of the first half.

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: Down fourteen to nothing. They have the football, they are driving.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm sure you're thinking what I am, which

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01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 7: is all right, get seven right, double dip, double dip,

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01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 7: get the ball to start the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: But you need seven there, you're not gonna get field goals.

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Speaker 2: They run a play with forty seven seconds to go.

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01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: They gain ten yards on a third and fourteen, so

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Speaker 2: they're now at the Detroit thirty two. They have two timeouts.

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Speaker 2: The offense stays on the field and pretty much stands there.

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: Now this is after they take a delay of game

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Speaker 2: before the third and fourth two thirty nine, So they

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Speaker 2: take a delay a game with two timeouts, game ten yards.

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Speaker 2: It's fourth and four from the thirty two. Now, in

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Speaker 2: my thinking, you're not beating the Lions by kicking a

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Speaker 2: field goal. You need seven. The offense stands there. They

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Speaker 2: finally let the clock go down to three, they call

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Speaker 2: time out. They kick the field goal. Fourteen to three.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing.

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Speaker 7: I've got Jamar Chase, I've got t Higgins, I've got

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Speaker 7: forty nine seconds and two timeouts.

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Speaker 6: I'm going for it. Season's unraveling.

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Speaker 7: We talked about this with the decision last week on

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Speaker 7: fourth and two to kick the field goal against Denver.

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Speaker 7: You will not beat the Lions kicking field goals.

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Speaker 6: You won't. You won't beat any good team kicking field goals.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, mo.

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Speaker 7: I watched it back today. You couldn't have more of

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 7: a lack of urgency on the third and nine. And

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 7: in today's football, you know the play clock's running down.

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 6: Take the timeout right two? You got two?

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you don't take it now the third and fourteen.

1446
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 7: I broke this down earlier today. If a accurate slant

1447
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 7: has thrown to andre Josi Vash, he probably scores the

1448
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 7: ball starne so far behind him, it's a catch and tackle.

1449
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 7: I am running up to the line of scrimmage, or

1450
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 7: I'm calling the timeout and I'm going to go try

1451
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 7: to convert the fourth down and score a touchdown. Middle

1452
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 7: of the field still open because you got timeouts, so

1453
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 7: you're not just limiting yourself to a shot, you know,

1454
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 7: a hail Mary type play. You had a legit chance

1455
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Speaker 7: to run four or five more plays in the half,

1456
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 7: and instead you'll let the clock run down. And you

1457
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 7: took the three and then you went back to Jake

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Speaker 7: Browning in the third quarter and do an interception.

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Speaker 6: The game was over.

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Speaker 2: Then, at twenty eight to three, the Bengals got the

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Speaker 2: ball back at their own twenty seven yard line. Now,

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01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: admittedly you're down by twenty five points, but there's still

1463
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: twenty minutes to go in the game. It's unlikely, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's very unlikely. But you're keeping your first team offense

1465
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: out there. If you didn't know the score, if you

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Speaker 2: didn't know who was winning the game, and you watched

1467
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: that drive which did end in a touchdown Jamar Chase

1468
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: on a really nice scramble play by Jake Browning where

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01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: he got out of trouble found Jamar Chase who made

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Speaker 2: a nice catch. The problem is the drive took. From

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Speaker 2: looking at this year, the drive took nearly six minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they were huddling. Yep, they were huddling with the clock running.

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Speaker 6: No hurry.

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01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 2: They come out of the huddle and they used pretty

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Speaker 2: much the entire play clock.

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 6: How baffling. Baffling. I don't know what you're working on.

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 6: I don't know what you're doing, but.

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01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: You would think that they were up twenty five trying

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01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: to kill as much clock as possible.

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Speaker 7: But if you listen MO post game, I thought this

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01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 7: was like an AI thing. Zach Taylor claims that had

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 7: they got that onside, they'd have won.

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's out of his mind.

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Speaker 6: If they had just got the onside, You know what

1485
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Speaker 6: this team's capable of.

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01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 2: That is that the excuse is that week's excuse.

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01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 7: Thought they had a chance to get it. Have we

1488
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 7: stumbled upon it that they just got the onside that

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Speaker 7: I thought it was an AI video because I'm like, surely,

1490
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 7: there's no way he just said that. And by the way,

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Speaker 7: it didn't even burn his last time out at the

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01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 7: end of the game to make them run another play.

1493
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 7: But if they'd got that onside kick, things were changed.

1494
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 7: But everything we've discussed MO fails in comparison to I

1495
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 7: think Pops possibly the call of the year at this moment.

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 7: How many undercenter runs have the Bengals hit so far?

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Speaker 2: None?

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Speaker 6: None, zero.

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Speaker 7: They did not run the ball under center once, and

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Speaker 7: yet just under twelve minutes left in the game, twenty

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 7: eight to ten under center.

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01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 6: Flea flicker.

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 7: Let me explain, first of all, if you aren't aware

1504
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 7: of what the flee flicker's meant to do. It's meant

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 7: to show a run have the safety and linebackers bite up.

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: It's the ultimate play action.

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01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 6: It's the ultimate play action.

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Speaker 7: Normally, when you run a flee flicker, you're doing so

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 7: because you're beating them in the run game. Like had

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Speaker 7: Brendan Soresby thrown a flee flicker on Saturday, I'm okay,

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01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 7: because they have been dominating on the ground. The Bengals

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 7: had not run the ball under center, But are you

1513
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 7: expecting them to run the ball when they're down eighteen.

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01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 5: No.

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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 7: It's the worst timed flee flicker in the history of football.

1516
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 7: And Orlando Brown Junior must have not have got the

1517
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 7: memo that on a flee flicker you have to block

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 7: for more than one second, because he made the laziest

1519
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 7: block he's made all year.

1520
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 6: Jake Browning gets annihilated. Orlando Brown Junior, though.

1521
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 7: Does get a plus because he was in great position

1522
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 7: to recover the fumble, So that's good for Jake Browning.

1523
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 7: It is a failure on so many levels. Why are

1524
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 7: you calling a flee flicker when you haven't established a

1525
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 7: run game, and why at that point in the game,

1526
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 7: and why when your left tackle is I mean we

1527
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 7: had media today was asking Zach Taylor is Orlando Brown

1528
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:10,480
Speaker 7: Junior compromised?

1529
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: Is he hurt?

1530
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 7: And Zach has no idea what he's talking. He can't

1531
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 7: block anyone right now. He throw on a tackle pool

1532
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 7: a couple times and didn't explode through. He plays retreating

1533
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 7: and then you're gonna ask him to block Adon Hutchinson

1534
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 7: on a flee flicker. I don't know what they're doing

1535
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 7: and what they're calling. It makes no sense.

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01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor is a very nice man. With three minutes

1537
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: and five seconds to go, it was thirty five to

1538
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: twenty four in favor of Detroit. Had they recovered the

1539
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: on side kick, they're winning. The odds of the Bengals

1540
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: winning that game were still improblem They're winning because they

1541
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 2: need to score, whether it's a touchdown and a two

1542
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: point conversion or the field goal, then convert another on

1543
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: the head kick, and then I get it. They Jake

1544
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: Browning played well in garbage time in the fourth quarter.

1545
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: I am gonna call absolute bs on that. There is

1546
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: no way in hell that Zach Taylor actually believed with

1547
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 2: three minutes to go, if we just make this on

1548
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: side kick work, that we're going to win the game.

1549
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 7: He said something along the line, We've had so many

1550
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 7: games where things were bleak and and we just find

1551
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 7: a way to pull through. If we'd have got that

1552
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 7: on side, we were what that's.

1553
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: Not remotely true. What things were bleak against the Minnesota

1554
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: Vikings to the tune of a forty eight to three deficit.

1555
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 2: Things were so bleak against the Denver Broncos that it

1556
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: was twenty eight to three and it felt like it

1557
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: was forty eight to three.

1558
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 6: Didn't pull through.

1559
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: They haven't pulled through at all. They barely pulled through

1560
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: against Cleveland, against Cleveland because their field goal kicker is

1561
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,799
Speaker 2: no good. And they barely pulled through against Jacksonville because

1562
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas dropped a pass and because the referee through

1563
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: a flag on that. Travis Hunter pi ye Like. They

1564
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: haven't pulled through. They have melted down. They have failed.

1565
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 7: So sorry, I if we if we can find an

1566
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 7: alternate universe where it's thirty four or thirty five to

1567
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 7: twenty four and the Bengals were covering on side kick

1568
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 7: with three minutes to go, and I can make a

1569
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 7: wager on whether or not the Bengals win.

1570
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: My money is on them not winning.

1571
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 7: If it's like a one score game. Sure, okay, the

1572
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 7: math is different. You're down two scores. I swear, in

1573
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 7: all honesty, I was scared to share it last night

1574
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 7: because I'm like, I've been got.

1575
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 6: By this before. Uh huh, this is AI. This isn't

1576
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 6: an actual quote.

1577
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm reading it. I mean, it's there. I gotta be

1578
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: honest with you. I didn't hear that part of the

1579
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: press conference. Didn't really care much about what Zach Taylor

1580
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: had to say. I thought we were going to win

1581
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: the game when we were kicking the on side kick,

1582
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 2: but they recovered it there at the.

1583
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 7: End, which is normal with those onsides. If the other

1584
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 7: team recovers.

1585
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 2: On side kicks in the NFL have what a five

1586
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: percent success rate. So if we can convert this thing

1587
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: that works about five percent of the time, down by

1588
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: eleven points and we have to convert the on site

1589
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: kick again in order to get the ball back if

1590
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: we score, we're gonna win the game. Yep, I think

1591
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Speaker 2: pole question. By the way. On side kick, So far

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01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: this year in twenty twenty five, nineteen have been attempted.

1611
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: One has been successfully recovered by the kicking team, so

1612
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: about a five percent successfully.

1613
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 7: How many times in the history of the league. Do

1614
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 7: you think that back to back on side kicks have

1615
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 7: ever been right?

1616
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's happened. Yeah, I'm gonna guess maybe less

1617
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 2: than one percent, So do.

1618
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 6: Overdue.

1619
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: So I've asked, and I gotta like redo this because

1620
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 2: I screwed it up when I threw it out there.

1621
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: Do you share that opinion? Do you share the opinion

1622
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 2: that the Bengals would have won the football game.

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 6: Just with.

1624
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 7: The ability to get that on sidekick. It's a different ballgame.

1625
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: I'm really I don't know if I'm happy that you've

1626
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,839
Speaker 2: brought this to my attention.

1627
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 7: Like I said, I've been fooled too many times with

1628
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 7: fake like accounts on social media or AI stuff.

1629
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 6: Now, which drives me nuts. That's a real thing like that.

1630
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 6: That's I looked at it last night and I'm like,

1631
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 6: that is not that real.

1632
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: The Bengals have have put have put that on their website.

1633
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: Twitter is is not cooperating with.

1634
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 6: Poles, okay, but it was there.

1635
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: But it's yeah, I'm see now there it is. I

1636
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: click this. I'm building a pole right now as we

1637
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: speak on Twitter. Yeah, And you can vote as to

1638
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: whether or not you share that opinion. We got like

1639
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: three minutes here in the AFC North. Yesterday, the Browns

1640
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,839
Speaker 2: go to London and lose with Dylan Gabriel playing quarterback

1641
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Vikings.

1642
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 7: I know they're not winning right now. Gabriel looked okay, Yeah,

1643
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 7: Quinchawn Judkins looks good, Hannon at tight end looks good.

1644
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 7: Their rookie class looks really good. It's not gonna happen

1645
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 7: this year. I think if you were to ask me

1646
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 7: which team has more pieces to build around next.

1647
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:22,919
Speaker 6: Year, it might be Cleveland.

1648
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,879
Speaker 7: I think I agree, like top end talent, the Bencans

1649
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 7: have it right, but more pieces to say, we absolutely

1650
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 7: have to build around these guys.

1651
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 6: I think Cleveland has it.

1652
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,520
Speaker 2: What do we make of the Baltimore Ravens, who defensively

1653
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: have been bad all year long. Obviously didn't have Lamar Jackson.

1654
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: They at home.

1655
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 6: Get Johnson, no Humphrey.

1656
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: They get smoked by the Texans forty four to ten.

1657
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: C J Sprow just a few days saying he felt

1658
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 2: like he was basically my age.

1659
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, looked like he did two years ago. I would

1660
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 7: be worried about them because of the defense. I would

1661
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 7: have to see how well Lamar plays and coming back.

1662
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 7: I was fascinated today.

1663
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: Mo.

1664
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:03,879
Speaker 6: We talked about this over the break.

1665
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 7: Right now, Baltimore is still the odds on favorite in

1666
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 7: the AFC North. They're minus one zh five. Pittsburgh is

1667
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 7: plus one ten or one thirty. Bengals and Browns over

1668
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 7: plus one thousand. Obviously, people still believe in them. I

1669
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 7: don't know who that defense is stopping right now, agreed,

1670
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 7: I think it's Pittsburgh's division.

1671
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: Well, they don't play Jake Browning for like a month

1672
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 2: and a half.

1673
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 7: Okay, by then, they'll probably figure some stuff out, and

1674
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh gets to play against Jake Browning maybe in two weeks.

1675
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: Well, but here's the thing, Pittsburgh. The next two games

1676
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: are home for Cleveland at Cincinnati, So while the Ravens

1677
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: are trying to figure stuff out, the Steelers are going

1678
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: to be their huge favorites at home against Cleveland. They'll

1679
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: be big favorites here a week from Thursday. Yep, So

1680
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: say which one about him? I'm not sure how good

1681
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: they are. They haven't won a game by more than

1682
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: seven points. Frankly, I think they should have lost to

1683
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 2: New England. But they've they've got a chance to put

1684
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: some some room between this separation everybody.

1685
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 7: Else, and it just makes we dealt with it over

1686
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 7: the second half of the year. Last year because of

1687
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 7: how poor the start was, it makes every game that

1688
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 7: much more stressful because you start off so poorly. That's

1689
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 7: now what the Baltimore Ravens have to contect with.

1690
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 2: Many believe the Bengals need to hit the reset button.

1691
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,680
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1726
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 2: Division Series games. You've got Phillies, Dodgers Cubs, Brewers. You

1727
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: can watch all of those and so much more. Get

1728
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: set for the big football weekend here at Twin Peaks

1729
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: in Westchester. Get dinner. I haven't eaten yet, but I will.

1730
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 7: I'm thinking about power hour. I'm thinking about maybe dessert.

1731
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 2: All right, very good, very good. You know we got

1732
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: like hot fud Sundays here last year, so might do

1733
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: that again. Skillet, great bourbon selection, cold beer, you name it,

1734
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 2: They've got it here at Twin Peaks in Westchester, this

1735
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: location right off the Union Center Boulevard exit off I

1736
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: seventy five. On an NFL Sunday where we had five

1737
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: teams come back from down ten points Tennessee. The Panthers

1738
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: Denver overcomes a fourteen point deficit to give Philadelphia it's

1739
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: first loss. New Orleans overcomes an eleven point deficit Washington

1740
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 2: to ten point deficit. The Bengals could not. They fall

1741
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: to the Detroit Lions yesterday thirty seven to twenty four.

1742
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: Let me do this.

1743
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 7: You know what you mentioned that yesterday. One of the

1744
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 7: things that make what going on with the Bengals so

1745
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 7: much more frustrating. I just don't feel like there's an

1746
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 7: unbeatable AFC team Like I watched last night and I'm

1747
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 7: like Buffalo, okay, right, Kansas City, Baltimore is a mess,

1748
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 7: Like every AFC team that I thought going into the year,

1749
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 7: like there are teams in the NFC.

1750
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 6: I'd be like, I don't want to play that team.

1751
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 2: I still think Buffalo's really good. Yeah, I think that

1752
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: the Patriots are ascending. Baltimore looks like a mess right now.

1753
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 6: You want to just get ahead of bad matchup Patriots.

1754
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 2: Patriots, bad matchup. Yeah, that they played them later this season.

1755
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 2: You're right, the AFC is wide open, the AFC, Like,

1756
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: It's why so many of us clung to the idea

1757
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: that this team could still make the playoffs with Jake

1758
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 2: Browning in part you thought he was gonna play better. Yeah,

1759
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: but also you looked at the AFC, especially like the

1760
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 2: potential wildcard team.

1761
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 7: Like Denver Right thought the Chargers maybe in the last

1762
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 7: two weeks, stored about them.

1763
01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1764
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 6: It's just it's so open, right, it makes it even

1765
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 6: more frustrating.

1766
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk about coaching for a second. So we talked

1767
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: about this a little bit before, specifically with Kyle Shanahan.

1768
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 2: Where they go on the road on a short week

1769
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 2: fairs hight football at LA good team. Mac Jones is

1770
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: playing quarterback. They have a ton of guys hurt and

1771
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: they piece together a game plan, they looked prepared, they execute,

1772
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: they win on the road. I see what Shane Stikeen

1773
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 2: is doing with Daniel Jones helps to have Jonathan Taylor

1774
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: to I'll admit that Daniel Jones, though, I see what

1775
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell continues to do, a guy you think is

1776
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: the best coach in football, and it helps that he

1777
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 2: has a great defensive coordinator. I see these coaches who

1778
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: figure it out, like, it's not so much blame Zach

1779
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: Taylor for losing. It's not so much hold him accountable for,

1780
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: you know, winning or losing football games. What I've watched

1781
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: over the last three weeks is a coach who can't

1782
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 2: figure it out, who can't take what he has at

1783
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 2: his disposal and piece together something that gives his team

1784
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: a shot.

1785
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I see it around the league.

1786
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 7: Well, we were told Detroit they're gonna struggle, they lost

1787
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 7: Ben Johnson.

1788
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 6: Uh huh. We were told right, well, Tampa they're fun,

1789
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 6: but Liam Cohen's.

1790
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 7: Gone, uh huh, they're fun, they're well run, Their pieces

1791
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 7: match like it is.

1792
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 6: It's everywhere you watch.

1793
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 7: Every game you watch, there are teams where you're like, man,

1794
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 7: how are they doing that? Because here it's foreign feels

1795
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 7: foreign here. If you don't have everything land just how

1796
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 7: it has to be, and you're healthy, and the opponent's

1797
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 7: got a match to what you can do, and that

1798
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 7: you hope the opponent doesn't take stuff away. It's just

1799
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 7: so many things have to fall in or Burroughs just

1800
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 7: got to be elite.

1801
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 6: That's the only way they win.

1802
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: I said this to you yesterday. Red flag went up

1803
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: after Week one for me, Oh yeah, they played the Browns,

1804
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: They've won the game. Fine, But I watched a team

1805
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: that offen Lea that day looked at the Cleveland Browns

1806
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: and said, Okay, you don't want us to throw it

1807
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 2: to Jamar and t yep, that's cool, no problem. I

1808
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: watched the Vikings yesterday morning. You and I were at

1809
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: the Holy Rail, and I watched the Minnesota Vikings yesterday

1810
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: and in a good competitive game, the Vikings didn't say, oh,

1811
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 2: you don't want us to throw to Justin Jefferson, that's cool. No.

1812
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: They threw it to him seven times, including a couple

1813
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: of times on the drive where they win the game.

1814
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: He had one hundred and twenty three yards, so they

1815
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: won the game. And it was Week one, so you're

1816
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: just happy that they won. And it's Burrow, and nobody

1817
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: wants to criticize Joe Burrow. But I walked away from

1818
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: that game hearing about how bad of a matchup it was. Going.

1819
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'll admit Cleveland's corners are good, But aren't

1820
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: you supposed to have the best group of skilled guys

1821
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: in the league. Aren't you supposed to have the best

1822
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league? And yet you said that day,

1823
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: if the Browns don't want us to throw the ball

1824
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: outside the numbers, we won't. That is, to me, the

1825
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 2: antithesis of what really good, really well coached teams do,

1826
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: really well coached teams go, you got good corners, watch

1827
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 2: what we have. There was none of that that was

1828
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow. So if that's the case with Joe Burrow,

1829
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: why wouldn't it be the case with the quarterback who's

1830
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: nowhere near as good?

1831
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it to me is the reason I think this

1832
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 7: gets far worse before it gets any better. Like, how

1833
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 7: how do you navigate a path? Now again, say which

1834
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 7: one about matchups? How do you go into a green

1835
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 7: Bay and win?

1836
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: I have no idea fourteen and a half point dogs?

1837
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 6: How do you win at home?

1838
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: And get the Pittsburgh I have no idea.

1839
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 7: I'm gonna stop DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers. The longer

1840
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 7: they play, the better they're gonna get together. Every team's

1841
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 7: gonna present some issues. Yes, you know, by the time

1842
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 7: the Jets come around with Aaron Glenn, you're starting to

1843
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 7: have his inpunt on this team. They're starting to play tough,

1844
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 7: tough fall like you can make that case against ninety

1845
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 7: percent of the teams you play against. And in those

1846
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,839
Speaker 7: games where you might not have the better skill players,

1847
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 7: you have to have better scheme in coaching. And if

1848
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 7: you don't have the better scheme in coaching, you have

1849
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 7: to have the better roster. They don't have either right now.

1850
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 7: Because of the way the roster has been constructed. They're

1851
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 7: going to go into most games now, especially without Burrow,

1852
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 7: with the worst roster, and most games we're gonna look

1853
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 7: back and say, this feels like a coaching mismatch, not

1854
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 7: in the bengals favor. So how do you win those games?

1855
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: Like did on Thursday night? Did the San Francisco forty

1856
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 2: nine ers bring a better roster than the Rams to La? No?

1857
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 6: But what they have, like coaching, advanced.

1858
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: Johnson is a better quarterback than Jake Brown, and he

1859
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 2: was actually drafted and at one point he was gonna

1860
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 2: be the successor to Tom Brady. Like I get that,

1861
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: but like I watched, I texted, I texted you on

1862
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 2: Thursday and night go on, like I'm watching the forty

1863
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: nine ers figure it out. They might not win the game.

1864
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 2: LA ended up making it a game where I thought

1865
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: we were gonna have another primetime tie. But I saw

1866
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: a team, I saw a coach that said, all right,

1867
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: here's what I have. Okay, I'll figure it out if.

1868
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 7: We did, And it was and that was just not

1869
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 7: a quarterback Kittle right, ayyukright, Jennings pearsol, every weapon they had,

1870
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 7: and they went into the game.

1871
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 2: You would know it.

1872
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 7: I would know it. Take a poll of one hundred people,

1873
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 7: they would all know it. Hey, how how does San

1874
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 7: Francisco have a chance tonight? Everyone would say Christian McCaffrey.

1875
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 7: And yet they still found ways to have Christian McCaffrey

1876
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 7: make an impact in the game.

1877
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Right, So if you.

1878
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,759
Speaker 7: Can do that against the Rams or another good coach,

1879
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 7: how can we not figure that out here with Jamar

1880
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 7: Chase and T Higgins.

1881
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 2: So, like all right. The roster isn't good. That's well established.

1882
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,480
Speaker 2: I cannot help but think, though, especially from an offensive perspective,

1883
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 2: that there are coaches who would go, you know what,

1884
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Joe Burrow, But give me Jake Browning

1885
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 2: and give me Chasing Higgins and give me Chase brown

1886
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,839
Speaker 2: I will figure out a way to piece something together

1887
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: that gives this team a chance to win in the

1888
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Yeah, maybe we don't.

1889
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 7: Right, You could probably name fifteen offensive coaches right now

1890
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 7: that would that you would feel good about doing that

1891
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 7: better than what they currently have. That to me is

1892
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 7: when a coach proves its value and what the value

1893
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 7: and I got. We could go Zach's record without Joe

1894
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 7: as the starting quarterback. You could, You could dive into

1895
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 7: any number in any graphic you want. None of them

1896
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 7: are good. And what if we've been doing now for

1897
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 7: years waiting? You know, uh, personnel doesn't really match the scheme,

1898
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 7: and well, you know you got to kind of give

1899
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 7: him a break here because Burrow's hurt, you know, you

1900
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 7: can't really judge off that, and Jamar's missed time, well,

1901
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 7: they haven't had time in training camp. Jamar missed all

1902
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 7: a training camp it's always an excuse. It's never just

1903
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 7: like man hand up just not good enough. It's always

1904
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 7: a bad matchup or well we figured it out, laid

1905
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:53,440
Speaker 7: or we got It's always an excuse with them.

1906
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: And I again, like it's one example, but it's with Shanahan.

1907
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,480
Speaker 2: On Thursday. I didn't team making excuses.

1908
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 7: I saw a coach that said, all right, I'll embrace

1909
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 7: the challenge of putting together something. And again like they

1910
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 7: weren't awesome. It's not like they scored fifty points. Yeah,

1911
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 7: but it would have been winning record. Hey, we're shorthanded,

1912
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 7: let's play hard. If it doesn't happen there, the intensity

1913
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 7: on the sidelines, uh huh, the way in which every

1914
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 7: time they fly, he's locked into what it's just I

1915
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 7: go back to the to the the feel and the offense,

1916
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 7: and we talked about Detroit and how everything sets something

1917
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 7: else up.

1918
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 6: And then we go to the flea flicker. Again. They

1919
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 6: did not run.

1920
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 7: No, they didn't run one thing throughout two and a

1921
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 7: half three quarters that would have set up a flea flicker.

1922
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 7: It's just let's grab this from here. And oh oh,

1923
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 7: I just came across that. Let's try that one. It's

1924
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 7: not I'm gonna run this so that I'm gonna come

1925
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 7: back later and hit him with this, or you know what,

1926
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 7: We're only getting two point eight yards per carry right now,

1927
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 7: but I'm gonna keep giving them opportunities because in the

1928
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 7: fourth quarter that's gonna cash them. Nothing like that, nothing

1929
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 7: builds off anything else here.

1930
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 6: It's maddening.

1931
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Sixteen after five o'clock, Let's talk about hitting the reset button,

1932
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: and let's talk about everything else that went down around

1933
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: the NFL during Week five between now and six great

1934
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 2: twin peaks in Westchester, Tony.

1935
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 6: Part about doing UC early.

1936
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: We did U see early? Do some more later. This

1937
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1951
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Speaker 2: Twenty three after five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

1952
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Speaker 2: It's the Tony and Mo Football Show at Twin Peaks

1953
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Speaker 2: in Westchester. Know what a bad weekend? James Franklin, Mark Sanchez, Oh.

1954
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, tough one mean you you.

1955
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Speaker 2: Get stabbed and I'm glad he's okay. Yeah, he's now

1956
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Speaker 2: been charged with a felony because he allegedly decided to

1957
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 2: get into it with some food delivery driver who there's

1958
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Speaker 2: videos of him like stumbling around as they say, mess

1959
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 2: around and find out I think Mark did. He's now

1960
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 2: being sued by the guy. My guess is he's gonna

1961
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: lose his gig with Fox. It's tough weekend for the sanchis.

1962
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Speaker 7: What a and what a strange news release that it was,

1963
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 7: because like the initial report comes out and it's just

1964
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 7: this outpouring of love and support and can't find a

1965
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 7: better guy.

1966
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's going on in the streets of Indie.

1967
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Speaker 2: I think he's a good analyst.

1968
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's good. So hey.

1969
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Speaker 7: And again, like at the at the core of it,

1970
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 7: he was stabbed and you want to make sure he's okay.

1971
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Speaker 7: But for that to turn in all of a sudden

1972
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Speaker 7: to well, hold tight as we're looking into this, is

1973
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 7: that Mark is the one culpable and then to that

1974
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Speaker 7: become well, we're arresting him and now charging him with

1975
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Speaker 7: a felony.

1976
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: Originally three mister meetings, now a felony.

1977
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Speaker 6: What a bad, bad weekend.

1978
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Speaker 2: And I read it in the New York Post that

1979
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Speaker 2: he was originally uncooperative and then when he got to

1980
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Speaker 2: the hospital and they were like, well, what do you

1981
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,480
Speaker 2: remember about the incident, he is like nothing.

1982
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Speaker 6: Yeah, ageah man.

1983
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Speaker 2: I the the the social media images of the guy

1984
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Speaker 2: that he was involved in a confrontation with our brutal

1985
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Speaker 2: and so I'm certainly willing to withhold judgment until we

1986
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Speaker 2: find out what happened. But I know it's being alleged,

1987
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Speaker 2: and I know what everybody originally thought, and uh that

1988
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: that story I said to you yesterday, and we didn't

1989
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Speaker 2: know as much as we do.

1990
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Speaker 6: Now.

1991
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Speaker 2: I'm one of the more bizarre things I've ever seen.

1992
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Speaker 6: Insane, insane.

1993
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Speaker 2: But James, James, is there anything I think I said

1994
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Speaker 2: this last week? Is there anything that unites the internet

1995
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Speaker 2: better than when James Franklin loses a game?

1996
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Speaker 6: For whatever reason, people love it. I think it's how

1997
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Speaker 6: he acts.

1998
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Speaker 2: I put on social media. I put on social media

1999
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 2: that exact sentiment that I just repeated to you on

2000
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: Saturday night. And I got a text from somebody who

2001
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 2: has prefer professionally cross paths with James Franklin who just wrote, deserved.

2002
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Speaker 6: Yep, the word it's easily got the worst loss of

2003
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Speaker 6: the year.

2004
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Speaker 7: Twenty four and a half point favorite lose outright to

2005
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Speaker 7: an zero to four team that got boat raced by

2006
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Speaker 7: New Mexico, that it's already fired its coach.

2007
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that was bad.

2008
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Speaker 2: Tough one for PSU. Bengals don't have a good roster,

2009
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: so it's time to hit the reset button. Here's my

2010
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 2: question for you. Joe Burrow comes back next year, right,

2011
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 2: can you win a Super Bowl in the next two

2012
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 2: years with Joe Burrow's quarterback? If you decide to use

2013
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 2: this season as a reason to start from scratch with

2014
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Speaker 2: the rest.

2015
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 6: Of the roster.

2016
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Speaker 7: Who's making the decisions. My guess is it's going to

2017
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 7: be same guy that's been in place. Yeah then how

2018
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 7: then how how can I say yes? I mean, I

2019
01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 7: asked you in quick hits with Austin today, outside of

2020
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, tell me his draft.

2021
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 2: Hits in recent years, there haven't been that.

2022
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 7: Like Austin went back to Geno Atkins or you went

2023
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 7: back to like Jesse Bates, Yeah, Bama Hub. But then

2024
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 7: they drafted Jesse Tyler and they didn't retain him. They

2025
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 7: let Like it's not just the drafts, it's been the decisions.

2026
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 7: They let Andrew wit with walk. Yeah, first round pick

2027
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 7: on John Ross, Miles Murphy is now playing thirteen probably

2028
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 7: Cedga go boy.

2029
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 6: He The list goes on and on.

2030
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Speaker 7: So you can tell me that you want to hit

2031
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 7: the reset button and you're gonna build around this cores

2032
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,879
Speaker 7: And we've talked about the cores and the lack thereof.

2033
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:40,839
Speaker 7: But at the end of that, mo, are you trusting

2034
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 7: those tasked with rebuilding.

2035
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Speaker 2: So that's the thing, Like we're we're in the Burrows

2036
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Speaker 2: super Bowl window. Now he's under contract for the rest

2037
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: of the decade, So you have four more years. Okay,

2038
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: Joe is gonna turn thirty during next season. This year

2039
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 2: is a wash. You didn't win last year, so all right,

2040
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 2: hit the reset button. Hit the reset button to me

2041
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 2: means you're basically starting from scratch, which I think you

2042
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 2: can very fairly argue they should because the roster is

2043
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 2: so bad. But if you're gonna hit the reset button

2044
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 2: and you're gonna rebuild, rebuilds do take time.

2045
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 7: Now.

2046
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 2: They don't have to take as long as they may

2047
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 2: in baseball. They don't have to take nearly as long

2048
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,520
Speaker 2: as long as you have an a lister or at quarterback.

2049
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 2: But can you rebuild starting right now and put this

2050
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,919
Speaker 2: team in the Super Bowl over the next two seasons?

2051
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 7: You can't answer that confidently if Zach and Duker in

2052
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 7: their spot.

2053
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so we all said coming into this season, the

2054
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: next three years are huge, Like, if they're going to

2055
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 2: win one, it's the next three years. Ain't gonna win

2056
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 2: one this year, So all right, now we take two

2057
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,879
Speaker 2: years to get the rebuild done. Now we're talking twenty

2058
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: twenty eight, when Joe turns thirty two.

2059
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just don't Again, I don't know how you

2060
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 7: can build that successfully as currently constructed from a coach

2061
01:39:58,920 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 7: and general manager.

2062
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 2: If you're Joe Burrow, now you're told, hey, get healthy

2063
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 2: when you're back, we're gonna go through a rebuild.

2064
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's not easy to ask him either, Do

2065
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 6: you want any part of that?

2066
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 2: No?

2067
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 6: Again, Like and.

2068
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 7: If I'm Joe, I'm saying the same thing, what have

2069
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 7: we been doing? Like if if if Joe's numbers were

2070
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 7: what they were last year and Jamar's numbers and Trace

2071
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 7: Hendon numbers were.

2072
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 6: What they were, what was last year?

2073
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 2: Then?

2074
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 7: Was that not rebuilding? Was firing Luanna Rumo and another

2075
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 7: offensive line coach and bringing in a new D line

2076
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 7: and no line coach and bringing in a new decordinator?

2077
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 7: And was was that not trying to rebuild? What was

2078
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 7: wrong last year with this team? And that great is

2079
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 7: a big f This roster stinks, they have a few

2080
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 7: pieces to build around. What would what would signify to

2081
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 7: me that anything would be different? Like and and then

2082
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 7: it goes back to Okay, you move on. Let's let's

2083
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 7: say you move on from Zach. Are you trusting are

2084
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 7: you trusting the process? Who you bringing in? How much

2085
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 7: are you relying on Joe then to say, Hey, Joe,

2086
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 7: what do you think of this guy? What do you

2087
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 7: think of this guy?

2088
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 2: I guess for me, Like somebody asked me yesterday, what

2089
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 2: is it like if you're Joe Burrow watching this? And

2090
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 2: my answer was, you understand this is gonna take some

2091
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: heavy lifting and I'm not sure I want to be

2092
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:22,560
Speaker 2: here for it.

2093
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 6: Now.

2094
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 2: He's under contract, right, you know the blasts. But like

2095
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 2: we we run everything through this filter, right, what does

2096
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: Joe want? What does Joe think? We've done it with

2097
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 2: the roster. We've done it with t Higgins, we did

2098
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 2: it with Trey Hendrickson. Run this through Joel Joe Burrow's filter.

2099
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 2: Hey Joe, it didn't work this year. Our offensive line

2100
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 2: ended your season again for all intents and purposes. Maybe

2101
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 2: he comes back, but this year has exposed us so

2102
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 2: bad that we now know we've got to hit the

2103
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 2: reset button. And so we're gonna have to maybe go

2104
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 2: young in a lot of different spots. We have to

2105
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 2: rebuild the roster. Rebuilds do take a little time. And

2106
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 2: again I'm not talking about five years. If you're Joe Burrow,

2107
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 2: like the clock on your prime is ticking, you're watching

2108
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes in a down year last year, still played

2109
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl. Josh Allen's a terrific player with

2110
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 2: a team who has a chance to win the whole thing.

2111
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson went healthy is a terrific player who at

2112
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 2: least plays in an organization that has a track record

2113
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 2: of building really good rosters. Jalen Hurts has already won one.

2114
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 2: The Eagles have offensive issues right now, but you certainly

2115
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't rule him out. And I'm now I'm stuck another rebuild,

2116
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 2: Like that's what I worry about. How many more years

2117
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 2: are you gonna, you know, not capitalize on having Joe

2118
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,879
Speaker 2: and then how many years will accumulate before Joe goes Dude,

2119
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 2: I know I can walk at the end of the

2120
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine season, but I don't want to wait,

2121
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: because we're wasting my prime.

2122
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 7: And think, just think how quickly at tumbles like Burrow

2123
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 7: gets hurt against Jacksonville browning those picks, but somehow delivers

2124
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 7: a win and they're two and zero and we're having

2125
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 7: the conversation of Minnesota's okay, they're not great, Denver's okay,

2126
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 7: they're not great. Can you find a way to count

2127
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 7: the winds they need and Joe can maybe come back

2128
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 7: and you can still make a run on it this year.

2129
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 7: To just three weeks later and we're talking about a

2130
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 7: complete rebuild. That's how quick this has falling apart.

2131
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, rebuilding might be the way to go.

2132
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it shight be.

2133
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 7: But that's how quick this has falling apart. And that's

2134
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 7: how bad the last three weeks. It's not just the

2135
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 7: fact that they've lost three in a row, it's the

2136
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 7: nature in which they've lost. Yeah, non competitive, right, not

2137
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 7: even a chance to feel a good.

2138
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 6: Roster right, three weeks, three weeks.

2139
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 7: Have went by, and not only this season feels like

2140
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:44,879
Speaker 7: it's crumbling, the whole foundation.

2141
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 2: Yes, the foundation of the franchise is Joe is gonna

2142
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 2: elevate everybody. Yep, it's shaky at best. Last year proved

2143
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 2: as much last year approved. The foundation is shaky because again,

2144
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,480
Speaker 2: he was awesome. You were four an eight at one

2145
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 2: point as awesome as he was. You didn't make the postseason.

2146
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 7: And you were four and eight, and you knew you

2147
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 7: had deficiencies and you didn't address them in the off

2148
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,440
Speaker 7: season when you had money dispatch.

2149
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 2: And so you know. My favorite thing to say is

2150
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 2: that I get patted on the head and told oh

2151
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 2: Mo this off season whenever I tried to raise my

2152
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 2: hand and go eli, we're sure, we're sure they're doing

2153
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 2: enough on the offensive line, because in August they were

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Speaker 2: still working guys out and signing guys. Okay, are we sure?

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Speaker 2: We're sure we don't need another guy in the secondary.

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Speaker 2: We're good here. We're sure that they have addressed their

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Speaker 2: issues stopping the run. We're sure about that. And I

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Speaker 2: got patted on the head time and again because you

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Speaker 2: could always play the borough card. We got Joe. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna be fine. Defense needs to be league average. Offensive

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Speaker 2: line needs to be league average. Coaching needs to be

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Speaker 2: league average. Take Joe away, Hugh, But like last year,

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Speaker 2: should have told you this isn't good enough. Joe wasn't

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Speaker 2: merely good last season. Joe was awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 2: For my money, he was the best quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: sport last year, and with it never being easier to

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Speaker 2: make the postseason, you couldn't. So the issues start last year.

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Speaker 2: Take away, Joe put in a replacement level quarterback and

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Speaker 2: it stinks. Then you take the quarterback play and make

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Speaker 2: it what it's been you have no chance of competing.

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Speaker 7: And then they've taken stuff in the off season we

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Speaker 7: talked about in training camp, we talked about and they're

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Speaker 7: all non existent. We spent half our training camp coverage

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Speaker 7: talking about how good Jermaine Burton looked.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't played us now can't get active.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, spent a lot of training camp talking about man

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Speaker 7: TODs Brooks looked like he could be a steal. How

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Speaker 7: many carries is TODs Brooks getting pe Ryan and Chase

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Speaker 7: Brown essentially split snay?

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Speaker 6: How much time do we talk.

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Speaker 7: In the in the training camp coverage of man T

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Speaker 7: Higgins in the slot, to Higgins in motions, Higgins the field,

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Speaker 7: Tegans in.

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Speaker 6: The boundary, Jamar moving around?

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Speaker 7: How much do we talk all about that in the

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Speaker 7: off season in training camp and now you watch a

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Speaker 7: game and you don't see any of it, none of it.

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Speaker 7: We talked about the secondary playing with confidence flying around,

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Speaker 7: they don't.

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Speaker 6: They don't.

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Speaker 7: So every positive that we thought could help this team

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Speaker 7: is now non existent. And you would think when the

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Speaker 7: roster needs help because Burrow's not there, wouldn't you think

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Speaker 7: you rely on that?

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Speaker 5: All?

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Speaker 2: Right? Now, I got a scheme.

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Speaker 6: Let's let you know what, let's try t in the slot.

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Speaker 6: Let's try him in motion.

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Speaker 7: You know, they ran a they ran a motion with

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Speaker 7: Jamar Chase, who went you know, behind the quarterback yesterday

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Speaker 7: on a run pass option and they kept seven guys

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Speaker 7: in the box and Jake Browning handed the ball off

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Speaker 7: then do it to Jamar Chase with twelve yard separation.

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Speaker 2: So like.

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Speaker 7: Every storyline that I thought we could lean to with

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Speaker 7: this team is now an afterthought. Like we don't even

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Speaker 7: talk about Jermaine Burton and the camp he had because

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Speaker 7: he's not even active.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Jones was questionable all week. I just m McKinley Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Does he ever play the.

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Speaker 6: Speed in which this fell?

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Speaker 7: Apart Dalton Reisner great pass blocker one snap he played yesterday,

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Speaker 7: I guess just it's remarkable how half of it and

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Speaker 7: we just don't talk about anymore and half doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: But but can I ask about Dalton Reisner that one snap?

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Speaker 2: What did Pro Football Focus great hit for that snap?

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Speaker 2: Was it really good? Because I heard this a lot

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Speaker 2: in PFF loves him.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, no other NFL team does because he's unsigned.

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Speaker 2: By the way, something you mentioned off air the special

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Speaker 2: teams play, yep.

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Speaker 7: Does Ryan Rico know like you're allowed to kick the

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Speaker 7: ball to a point, give your guy a chance.

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Speaker 2: Where dudes can come down and down it and give

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Speaker 2: your team better field position? Does he is he? Does

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Speaker 2: he think this is like run pass or kick or

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Speaker 2: see how far we can punt the ball?

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Speaker 7: Leave that role, just that bounce into the end zone.

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Speaker 7: It's just on every level right now, it's a failure.

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Speaker 2: not given up play calling duties. Also says, quote, we'll

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Speaker 2: see where it goes. When asked about who's going to

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Speaker 2: play quarterback on Sunday Bengals and Packers, said he'd like

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Speaker 2: to know by Wednesday. I'd like to know right now.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to know it's anybody, but Jake Brown. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: would you take literally any living human being?

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Speaker 7: Probably at this point. There was a point in the

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Speaker 7: second quarter I almost drove down. I would have liked

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Speaker 7: that yesterday, so real quick. The last segment, we talked

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Speaker 7: about rebuilding and there are cases where teams in a

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Speaker 7: year turn it around. When you normally do that, you

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Speaker 7: get the quarterback. That's what turns it around. Yeah, what

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Speaker 7: the problem is the Bengals have the quarterback. Can they

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Speaker 7: successfully build around the quarterback when they haven't been able

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Speaker 7: to since he's been here.

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Speaker 2: So the Bengals did this quickly. They did it from

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when they won two games to twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: one when they went to the Super Bowl, right because

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Speaker 2: they could throw a lot of money at their defense. Yep,

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Speaker 2: like roster building, you can't. Roster building is different now,

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Speaker 2: So I've made this point before. Look, Duke Tobin built

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Speaker 2: two teams that played in AFC Championship games. You could

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Speaker 2: build the roster by just throwing money at problems when

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Speaker 2: Burrow and Chase and Higgins are on rookie deals. So

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Speaker 2: you could throw a lot of money at Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: and you could throw and they got it right with Trey,

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Speaker 2: greatest free agent signing in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 2: You could throw money at Chadobi a Wooziah. You could overpay,

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Speaker 2: which everybody said they did. You could overpay DJ Reader

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Speaker 2: like you could throw money at the problem. Bengals obviously

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01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 2: have money to spend, but they can't just throw a

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Speaker 2: bunch of money at the problem now to rebuild the

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Speaker 2: way they did when they built the Super Bowl team.

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Speaker 7: But the teams that have done it consistently, Josh Allen

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Speaker 7: and the what do we talk about in the same breath,

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Speaker 7: the way they've built the roster around Josh Allen and

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Speaker 7: the decisions they've made in the coaching Joe Brady, right,

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Speaker 7: Sean mcdunnott, What are we talking about with Kansas City?

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Speaker 7: All the time? Talk about the players, but what do

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Speaker 7: you end up with? Andy Reid? So, if you're consistent,

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Speaker 7: you got the coaching to match it. If not, then

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Speaker 7: you have the coaching advantages. Liam Cohen gives his team

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Speaker 7: an advantage offensively, He gives his team an advantage what

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01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 7: they're doing in New England and they bring back with

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Speaker 7: Josh McDaniel terrible head coach, not that guy, but a

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Speaker 7: good coordinator gives his team an advantage. You mentioned Shane

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Speaker 7: Steichen and what he's doing with Daniel Jones with the Chargers.

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Speaker 7: You talk about Harball with the Denver Broncos. You talk

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Speaker 7: about Sean Payton in the same light. Washington, you talk

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Speaker 7: about what Kingsbury has been able to do with with

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Speaker 7: Jaydon Daniels, like there are constants to the success stories

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Speaker 7: Jordan Love. But you go back to what Mott Lafloor.

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Speaker 7: You any successful team, you also talk about how it

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Speaker 7: pairs with the style and with the coaching. With the Bengals,

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Speaker 7: does anyone ever say they got Joe Burrow and they

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Speaker 7: got Zach Taylor leading them? No, no, no, it is

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Speaker 7: always what, well, they got Joe Burrow so they can

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Speaker 7: do something, but it's never paired with Man Andy Reid

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Speaker 7: and Patrick Mahomes. No one talks about that with the

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati Bengals. So Man Buffalo has really built their roster

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Speaker 7: and changed who they are around Josh Allen Baltimore, around

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Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson has built that roster around him. Do we

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Speaker 7: talk about that with the Bengals? Do we talk about Man,

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Speaker 7: Duke Tobin and Joe Burrow. No, you don't put those

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Speaker 7: two hand in hand like you do with other franchises.

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Speaker 7: It's been a miss and now you get to the

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Speaker 7: point you're at where, well, if it's not Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 7: who's gonna help us this year?

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Speaker 6: Scheme? Coach, personnel? No, no, no, that's the issue.

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Speaker 2: Bengals and Packers, Sunday four twenty five on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Monday Night Football Tonight, Chiefs and Jags. Kansas City

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Speaker 2: is getting three and a half.

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Speaker 7: You know, I hate to say it, but I trust

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Speaker 7: Kansas City. I just trust them getting points they're laying

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Speaker 7: or laying. Yeah, I seeing what they did last week,

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Speaker 7: it felt like they figured something out offensively. As the

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Speaker 7: season goes on, they're gonna get healthier and healthier. I

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Speaker 7: think Xavier Worthy is questionable. Tonight, they're gonna get Richie

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Speaker 7: Rice back. I just I trust more Kansas City. I

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Speaker 7: think Liam Cohen's done a good job.

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Speaker 6: He will.

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Speaker 7: I just don't trust Trevor Lawrence to that extent, not yet,

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Speaker 7: not yet, But you want to change that narrative? Sure,

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Speaker 7: beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Tonight coverage on ESPN fifteen thirty starts at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: You see football. The Bearcats twenty sixth AP Top twenty

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Speaker 2: five Pole just on the outside looking in, twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: in the Coach's Poll. Jake Golday named the Defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Week in the Big Twelve. U See's offensive

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Speaker 2: line for the third time this year, named the Big

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Speaker 2: twelve's O Line of the Week. Ohio State's still number

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Speaker 2: one in both major polls Indiana seventh and both major polls.

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Speaker 2: The Mark Stoop Show, which should be fun, is tonight

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Speaker 2: at six on ESPN fifteen thirty and a pair of

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Speaker 2: National League Division Series games Tonight Game two Phillies and

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Speaker 2: Dodgers in Philadelphia, La Up won nothing and the Brewers

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Speaker 2: up won nothing on the Cubs hosting Game two. First

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Speaker 2: game at six oh eight, second game at nine to eight.

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Speaker 6: Tonight good good time of the year.

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Speaker 7: It is lot going on Monday night football, flip over

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Speaker 7: to baseball. You can go dual screen at times.

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Speaker 2: We'll have all four major sports in action in October,

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Speaker 2: and we have college basketball exhibition games against programs we've

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Speaker 2: heard of. Yeah, I love this month. Yeah, it's more

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Speaker 2: fun when your NFL team's good, but I love this month.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is this show for the first time since

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Speaker 7: its inception. We'll have to take on a different form

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Speaker 7: once college basketball starts. Question, I mean we without question,

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Speaker 7: there's been years where, you know, down the stretch we've

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Speaker 7: limped in. We haven't really had to spend fifteen weeks

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Speaker 7: limping in many times. Been a while to today. Today

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Speaker 7: already feels like it's like the week sixteen. Yeah, it

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Speaker 7: does or one of those like winter shows. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 7: they or walk out here, it's gonna be eighty degrees

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Speaker 7: still sunshine, yeap.

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Speaker 2: Out still sunlight. At least we had a lot of

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Speaker 2: teams come back from big deficits. I'm not sure there

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Speaker 2: was a comeback that was more striking than the one

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Speaker 2: that the Arizona Cardinals allowed. They lose to the Tennessee

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Speaker 2: Titans twenty two to twenty one. This was a game

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Speaker 2: where they appear to salted away with a seventy six

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Speaker 2: yard touchdown run by Amari Demarcado, who's a running back,

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Speaker 2: But as we have often seen in recent years, I

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Speaker 2: don't get it, he decides to drop the ball before

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Speaker 2: crossing the goal line.

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Speaker 6: What is this? Key?

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Speaker 7: Pat, don't get it, especially in the fact Mo that

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Speaker 7: it happened so many times. Yeah, how do you even

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Speaker 7: come close to messing with it? It's maddening. Yes, Arizona

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Speaker 7: think of how they lost, Yes, Shad, they lost on that.

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Speaker 7: And then there was another play where they intercept cam Ward. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: guy that intercepts the ball, drops it, two guys go

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Speaker 7: to land on it, it squirts out into the end

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Speaker 7: zone and Tyler Lockett recovers it. Right, like you want

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Speaker 7: to talk about a bad Monday, weird kind.

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Speaker 2: Of flukey thing. Why do we keep having this where

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Speaker 2: dudes are scoring, they're going in and they decide to

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Speaker 2: drop the ball.

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Speaker 6: It's insane?

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Speaker 2: All right? Well with that we gotta go.

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Speaker 7: What a fun, fun show. Tough matchup ahead this week?

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Speaker 7: Oh as always would have. Season of tough matchups. Tony

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Speaker 7: short week. Tony is back for since he three to

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Speaker 7: sixty tomorrow at noon. I am at a different location

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Speaker 7: tomorrow at three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: And he guessed Paul Danner Jr. That's it, Sean sayad

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Speaker 2: stats and scheme and we might might might work on

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Speaker 2: a guy who's got a medical device.

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Speaker 6: We got answer. That's what we're providing now. Answers.

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Speaker 7: Hope you're listening, mister Burrow tomorrow three to six with

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Speaker 7: MO listen in.

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Speaker 6: We got answers.

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Speaker 2: Uh. We're back here in Westchester next week. Have a

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Speaker 2: great night. Thank you for listening. Thanks to the staff

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Speaker 2: here at Twin Peaks, Thanks to Mike Mills for producing

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Speaker 2: on site and our guy tearing back and Kenwood the

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Speaker 2: Marks Tubes radio show is next. That'll be a blast.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports.

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Speaker 13: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center. Mammo Graham Saved

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Speaker 13: seventy four. The off Rampton northbound seventy five remains shut

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Speaker 13: down due to an accident with an overturned semi truck

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Speaker 13: on northbound seventy five. The right shoulder blocked off at

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Speaker 13: the beginning of the off ramp to seventy four, and

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Speaker 13: slow traffic eastbound two seventy five reed Hartman Highway to

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Speaker 13: Montgomery Road. I'm at ezelic with traffic