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Speaker 1: All right, well this is going to be a weird one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the After Show Podcast. My name is Justin.

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Speaker 1: Typically I would say Winnie would be here as well,

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Speaker 1: but when he is not here, and it's been several

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Speaker 1: years since she hasn't been here to do this podcast

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Speaker 1: with me. But I'm here and Billy Costa is here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining.

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Speaker 2: Is this my first podcast?

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Speaker 3: This is? Oh, you idiot, You've been on a million

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Speaker 3: times now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting next to you, Like, do I get an

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Speaker 2: entry song or something?

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Speaker 1: I can make one if you commit to doing, you know,

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Speaker 1: a regular appearance on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: So we could be like the next Joe Rogan or something.

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Speaker 3: I think we're behind the ball on that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But the thing is that, you know the after

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Speaker 1: show we're going to talk about all this stuff and

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Speaker 1: Winnie and everything. Yes, but the after show is done

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Speaker 1: typically every day after the show, and you're the busiest

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Speaker 1: guy I know, so you can't commit to doing it

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Speaker 1: all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like a very large commitment.

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Speaker 1: But if I were to continue the after show podcast,

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Speaker 1: which I would want to even though I'm a little

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Speaker 1: bit upset, would you commit to maybe a couple of

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Speaker 1: days a week.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, okay, absoluutely okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, for our people that are listening, what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen is this is going to come a day soon

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Speaker 1: where I'm gonna say the show's gonna end.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Bill, can you jump in for the app?

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Speaker 1: I got TV, I gotta shoot at Capri, I gotta

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Speaker 1: shoot meet Boston, I gotta meet Michelle.

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Speaker 3: I got a gala. I can't get prepare.

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Speaker 2: For instance, we don't have a podcast tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Do we tomorrow? Yeah, Tomorrow's Thursday. Of course we do.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. Anyway, welcome in. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: a weird one. This is definitely a weird after show podcast.

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Speaker 1: So this podcast was started back in twenty eighteen Billy

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Speaker 1: Wow with.

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Speaker 3: Bes and I.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, hey, Bex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, remember they had that podcast Guy at iHeart iHeart

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Speaker 1: come in.

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Speaker 2: They flew him in from California.

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Speaker 1: They flew him in to talk about how important podcasting

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Speaker 1: was and how we had to come up with an

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Speaker 1: original podcast and you know the best thing to do

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Speaker 1: would be doing after show. So and I did it,

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Speaker 1: and you would join sometimes sure, yeah, And then Beck's

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Speaker 1: left and then Winnie came on, and then Whinnie became

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Speaker 1: my co host.

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Speaker 3: We became co host together.

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Speaker 2: I would commit occasionally with you and Winnie.

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Speaker 3: Right, you almost got his band several times.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, Nobody spoke to me about that.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, well we deal with that.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting you say that, because my biggest fear was

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Speaker 2: if I were to come in with you and Winnie somehow,

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Speaker 2: I would lose my job about something we said as

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Speaker 2: a group.

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Speaker 1: Unless you said something super offensive. But it's not really

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Speaker 1: regulated by the FCC, like terrestrial radio is all. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can swear fuck just like that. You can swear

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Speaker 1: fuck right, all right, now we're on, all right, so

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. So this has been really tough.

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Speaker 1: It's been really really tough. Billy went to Africa, right,

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Speaker 1: This was planned a year in advance, and while Billy

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Speaker 3: Were doing the show covering the show.

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Speaker 1: So on Tuesday, Billy was not here, the show ended

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Speaker 1: and literally out of nowhere, we.

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Speaker 3: Were told the change was happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like out of knowing, and I still didn't know

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Speaker 2: I was in Africa.

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Speaker 3: You had no idea.

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Speaker 1: It was actually a crazy story because I was on

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Speaker 1: and so he's going on and on, and I'm getting

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here and I'm getting annoyed because I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I had to leave. Gandhi was in town

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Speaker 1: I'm getting anoy it. So then I jump out of

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Speaker 2: and you hung up, and I'm there standing in the

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was like it was like

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Speaker 2: I still didn't know what holy shit meant.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what what to do. I could not

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Speaker 1: made changes around the country, right, and so DJ Farne

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Speaker 1: They didn't ask us, they didn't content and say like, hey,

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Speaker 2: They didn't even wait till I got back from Africa.

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Speaker 2: Thing because you told me when I was in Africa.

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Speaker 2: He said, oh yeah, we're gonna do best jobs Thursday

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Speaker 1: Is like people don't understand how we do feel upset

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Speaker 1: Like people tune in, they know what's going on, they've

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Speaker 2: But it's what we have to do. It's what we

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Speaker 1: We can't talk about it the entire show. We addressed

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Speaker 3: You know, when he posted the video was super emotional.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, you never want to see anybody lose

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Speaker 1: I get it, but you have to look at our

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Speaker 1: I'm scared. I said, it's gonna be okay. And here's

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Speaker 1: the good news. The good news is that she wasn't fired.

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Speaker 1: No right, it sucks, but she was basically laid off,

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Speaker 1: She's rehirable anywhere in the country, anywhere, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, when that time comes. So it's just really sad, man.

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Speaker 1: And I lost so many people listen to this after show,

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Speaker 1: and so many people are kind of coming at me,

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Speaker 1: being like, on one side, God, you know, we feel

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Speaker 1: for you, justin like losing your partner essentially, and the

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Speaker 1: other people are like, you fucking monster.

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Speaker 3: How the fuck couldn't you save her, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? And I'm like, man, I'm the little guy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me ask you this, Do you or

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Speaker 2: does anyone have any doubt that Winnie's gonna be fine? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to some listeners last night because I'll

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Speaker 1: even the something that yell at me, I like, I'll

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Speaker 1: She is a hustler and she'll be okay, and you

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Speaker 3: Right. Think about it.

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Speaker 1: You're on this show with these three other people that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she started the show with us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just really tough. She's been here for ten years.

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Speaker 3: Up to work.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to get us anywhere.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to get us anywhere, and it's not

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Speaker 1: We still we talk to Winnie this. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 2: She's probably already signed a deal.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can only imagine you know her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yes, you could have me, you could have Lisa, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, so I want to clear that up too,

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Speaker 2: From the building Ashley? Maybe like Ashley from Jamming.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just trying to think.

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Speaker 2: You have Ashley on, Santy on who's funnier than him?

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Speaker 3: Santy, Santy hired me.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I stopped pulling salespeople in.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I actually pulled the boss in Dylan.

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Speaker 3: No he won't come on. No, no, he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And I can't guarantee a five day podcast. That's what

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Speaker 3: A bonus whinny.

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Speaker 2: Driven by the bonus.

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Speaker 3: What month are we in ten?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And for the people that say, like I'm never listening

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Speaker 1: I'll see who I can get to. Maybe I'll pull Brian,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he jump on in a second.

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Speaker 1: We got a band, you know, I know, I know

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Speaker 2: Couldn't be happy to do it.

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Speaker 2: He's here at three point thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 1: He beats us in here, he gets here, he's in

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Speaker 1: he is so on point. Yes, every day at six

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Speaker 3: All right, wait to go, Brian.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we'll talk again soon, hopefully tomorrow, and again,

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Speaker 1: thank you, We love you.

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Speaker 3: And man, we're doing the app show again. This feels good.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Bill. Okay,