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Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods

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Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy hildebrand.

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Speaker 2: Stee, Good morning Fan Outdoors, faithful. Yes, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: It's dark. Well, I don't know if it could get

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Speaker 2: more dark, but this is a cabin cast, one of

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Speaker 2: the final ones of this season, and my executive producers

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Speaker 2: smiling broadly right now, but I am not. But it's okay.

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Speaker 2: The chuckling in the background, yeah, that is my co host,

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Speaker 2: mister Bob Saint Pierre. Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. So you've got closing up the cabin on

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Speaker 3: your brain.

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Speaker 2: Huh, Well, I do. I got here yesterday because I

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Speaker 2: was in the Cities for some family things and I

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Speaker 2: got here. It was forty degrees in here and just

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Speaker 2: a bit nippily.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: Nippy, to say the very least. But we've got the

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Speaker 2: temperature corral that about seventy one degrees and it's forty

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Speaker 2: eight forty six outside right now.

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Speaker 3: You have inslation in the cabin, I guess you have.

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Speaker 3: You don't have it in the walls, do you?

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Speaker 2: In the newer part of this old cabin there was

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Speaker 2: insulation at one time. It was blown in when my

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Speaker 2: aunt built it, and it seems to now all be

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Speaker 2: in the eaves. Okay, it's moved and I've thought, I've

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Speaker 2: thought a lot about putting bad insulation up there, but

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Speaker 2: it sounds like a lot of work.

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Speaker 4: So it's essentially a three season Oh, very definitely, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: very definitely, because the water pipes are not that far underground.

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Speaker 2: Although the septic is okay, but I've got a couple

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Speaker 2: issues with that and I'm dealing with it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the septic is good. That's been there for quite a

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Speaker 2: while too. But the water pipes are that's a concern.

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Speaker 2: I would try to stay here because i'd have to

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Speaker 2: do something to keep them from freezing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just I think about how much you love that place,

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Speaker 3: and it'd probably be a pretty significant investment to get

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Speaker 2: I think, so. I mean underneath the floor here is dirt.

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Speaker 2: It's honest to goodness. I'm not sure exactly how old

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Speaker 2: it is, but the fireplace is fieldstone, and from the

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Speaker 2: all accounts that I can deduct, it's about one hundred

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Speaker 2: years old on the small part. And a gentleman lived

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Speaker 2: here twelve months a year and he liked to drink wine.

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Speaker 2: And when I'll never forget when my aunt bought it,

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Speaker 2: there's a trapdoor that I have to go in twice

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Speaker 2: a year, and I just really dread it, but I've

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Speaker 2: got to shut a valve off underneath there, so I'm crawling.

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Speaker 2: But when she bought it, underneath that trap door, it

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Speaker 2: must have had well, it was filled with gallon bottles,

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Speaker 2: and I kept one in there for a long time

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Speaker 2: have since gotten rid of that when the mice invaded

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Speaker 2: the place and they filled it with acorns. So that's

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Speaker 3: When you say it was filled, are we talking a

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Speaker 3: dozens or one hundreds and hundreds hundreds? So it drink

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Speaker 3: a finish off the wine and just open the trap

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But here's the interesting thing. He, like I said,

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Speaker 2: he was here all year long. But there there is

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Speaker 2: an artesian well which runs, you know, twenty four to

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Speaker 2: years and years. Well, he had the water that now

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Speaker 2: runs basically he just trickles into the lake, but he

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Speaker 2: overflow underground through an ice box in this little small basement,

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Speaker 2: which if a tornado came, I think I just soon

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Speaker 2: I never won Lands good Lands. It cold here easily.

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Speaker 3: What decads are we talking about this guy living here?

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Speaker 3: When did you're aunt by the well?

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Speaker 2: She owned it for six sixty years, I believe, and

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Speaker 2: I have owned it for almost twenty. Okay, so it's

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Speaker 2: it's quite a while ago.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like the forties is when the other guy would

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Speaker 2: Could have been could have been maybe it was doing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe there was some bootleg in a line going

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Speaker 3: on in your head.

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Speaker 5: There could have been Center Cabin.

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Speaker 2: There is. There's a history out here too, which is

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Speaker 2: kind of fascinating because there is if you go out

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Speaker 2: that would go to Diamond Point on the lake and

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Speaker 2: that's where some of the first settlers were. But then

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Speaker 2: there's a rock and Sock Center that marks the corner

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Speaker 2: of one stockade that they built and during the Sioux

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Speaker 2: Uprising that protected settlers and out in one of the

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Speaker 2: favorite places you like to start your dogs out in

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Speaker 5: I'm picking up what you're putting down.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, the story goes because my aunt Ivy did

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Speaker 2: the a history of Sock Center and that's in the

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Speaker 2: library in town. But you can so she said with

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Speaker 2: her research, there's settlers out there at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the Sioux Uprising. They said that no, they he was

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Speaker 2: okay out there and so, but they didn't hear from

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Speaker 2: some papers that she found at a library someplace. And

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Speaker 2: so local people went in a wagon horse drawn wagon

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Speaker 2: find him and bring him back. Well, what they found

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Speaker 2: out there was I believe a burned out building. Plus

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Speaker 2: they found his body in one place and this farmer's

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Speaker 2: head in another, and so that then they came back

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Speaker 2: to town and whatever. Yeah, there's quite a bit of history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sinclair Lewis is probably the most famous person from

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Speaker 3: Socks entity.

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Speaker 5: Your family have any connections there?

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Speaker 2: Well, my aunt, my mom's mother lived in the Sinclair

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 2: So I've spent a lot of time in that house

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Speaker 2: as a kid and it was nothing special then. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but you know, small towns look for acclaim to fame too.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of a claim to fame, have you ever

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Speaker 3: seen a pig on a leash inside?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 5: On the open.

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Speaker 3: Pient season, there was a ginormous hog a leash walking

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Speaker 2: That'll be busy come Halloween.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you have any background as to why

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Speaker 3: there was a pig on a leash in socks Center?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding? No? I was the mast and one

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Speaker 2: of the one of the girls with us. She wasn't

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Speaker 2: amazed at all because they used to have one.

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Speaker 5: When she was It's a sock center thing.

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Speaker 2: You saw the pig.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 3: We're not too big into dogs around here. We just

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Speaker 2: Goodness, Grace.

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Speaker 3: I've told the great pets you know, I'm gonna pass.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna pass this one.

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Speaker 2: He was walking behind the person holding the lead, so

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Speaker 2: he was in no hurry to go anywhere. And I

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Speaker 2: almost ran into somebody ahead of me too. I was

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Speaker 2: rubber necking pretty hard. But how did they get him

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: So I have one other pet pig connection, which is

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Speaker 3: I didn't have this on our bingo card this morning.

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Speaker 3: But Nick Hoffman, who we've had on the show multiple times,

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Speaker 3: in his home in Last None Less Face, Nashville. He

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Speaker 3: he lives in Nashville. He had a pet pig for

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Speaker 3: a long time. I had him on the podcast at

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Speaker 3: Pheasant Fest I think two years ago, and I was

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Speaker 3: kind of, you know, joking around, like cause he's got

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Speaker 3: and he's like that pig.

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Speaker 5: I was closer to that pig than any dog. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he was. He was torn up.

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Speaker 3: He was I was asking sort of jokingly and he was.

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Speaker 3: He was coming to tears, like, oh, I did not

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Speaker 3: know I was touching this chord, but apparently they are.

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Speaker 3: They have a tremendous amount of personality. I just don't

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Speaker 3: It seems a little bit a little much.

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Speaker 2: I've got some smoke pork chops out in the free well.

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Speaker 2: I guess flinckle that every time we have pork shops.

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Speaker 3: Now, in my previous job at the Saints, Saint Paul Saints,

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Speaker 3: you know, we have we had a pet pig mascot

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Speaker 3: with a saddle that would bring baseballs to the umpire

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Speaker 5: How did we get on this pig talk so much?

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Speaker 2: You started it?

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Speaker 3: I didn't, But we would get a certain person that

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Speaker 3: would call every single morning after a game and asked

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Speaker 3: for proof that the pig was still alive and that

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Speaker 3: we had not roasted it that night.

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Speaker 5: Swear to God.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So there's your pig story for the day,

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Speaker 3: or pig story.

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Speaker 2: You know how to call. You know how they call pigs,

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Speaker 2: not me.

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Speaker 3: They I have no idea. Come on, really, I'm waiting

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Speaker 3: for you to demonstrate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we will. We have to go to break,

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Speaker 2: so we'll leave this as ours our final side before

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Speaker 2: we go to break. Because what I have heard of this.

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Speaker 5: For future drops.

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Speaker 2: What I have heard is that when they do call pigs,

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Speaker 2: it'll go sue, sue. So there you go.

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Speaker 5: We're off to a blazing start this morning.

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Speaker 2: Well, right now, coming around the corner is a sock center, right,

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Speaker 2: and he will join us, and he's going to talk

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Speaker 2: to us a little bit about fishing, because there is

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Speaker 2: no shortage of boats. Ei. There was a boat across

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Speaker 2: the lake yesterday when I arrived here. He was in

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Speaker 2: one place for five hours, going back and forth. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they must have been on something. But maybe he's trying

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Speaker 2: to get his motor started. I'm not sure, but we'll

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Speaker 2: take that pause and we'll be back right away with

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Speaker 2: mister Denny Fletcher, a Fletcher's Mate and Tackle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're back pan outdoors October twenty fifth, coming your way.

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Speaker 2: In fact, this is appropriate because I see green lights

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Speaker 2: on the bow of a boat heading north right now,

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Speaker 2: and our guest is mister Denny Fletcher, the owner of

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Speaker 2: Fletcher's Bait and Tackle. Denny, some people are really really

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Speaker 7: Yeah, good morning, Bill. I was just amazed yesterday morning.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Like I said, before we got we went to break,

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Speaker 2: He was in the same place for about five hours,

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Speaker 7: Bite on Sock Lake this fall has been incredible. That's

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Speaker 7: And granted, you go out there on a good day

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Speaker 7: But the bite itself has been just superb. And it's

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Speaker 7: not just SoC Lake Lake Osakis is as good as

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Speaker 7: These walleys this this fall have been really really good bite.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that is, Denny? Is it because

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Speaker 7: You know, I really don't know.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I've been harvesting wild, wild, wild, wild mintals out out

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Speaker 7: what's going on right now. That's the only thing I

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Speaker 3: What what percentage of anglers do you do you think

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Speaker 5: I mean, is it ten percent or is it even

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Speaker 7: Uh, it's probably less than ten percent. With the with

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Speaker 7: So with the avid walleye fishermen, they know how good

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Speaker 2: Well and Danny. Yesterday right around it dark, I mean,

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Speaker 7: We have had the busiest fall, and I'm talking like

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Speaker 7: the month of October specifically of mental sales in my

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Speaker 7: They either want shiners and chubs, and the fish are biting,

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Speaker 7: and these guys are going fishing. Unless they're working for

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Speaker 7: a lot of them don't keep a lot of fish,

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Speaker 7: that're just out there to enjoy the experience. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's been an awful lot of people fishing with a

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Speaker 2: Right. Now, I've got to go this way before we

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Speaker 2: run out of time too, because have you got what

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Speaker 7: Okay, Sean and his two boys, Noah and Hunter, just

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Speaker 7: all those minerals in my north farm within the big

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Speaker 7: They just started two days ago now on the golden

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Speaker 7: shiner harvest, and for us that's super important. And we

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Speaker 7: got to about a dozen twelve thirteen golden shiner ponds

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Speaker 7: can out of all of thems grow up ponds, and

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Speaker 7: we'll put them in the two aerated man made ponds

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Speaker 7: when you need each each week, when you need a

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Speaker 2: Well, what about the brass season those danny aren't they

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Speaker 7: Very I've got mother nature threw us a wrinkle this year,

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Speaker 7: which is not unusual in this business. If you farm,

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Speaker 7: mother nature kind of dictates what you do. And I've

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Speaker 7: got a humongous population of brassy shinings this year, but

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Speaker 7: got plenty, plenty of brassy shiners, they didn't get to

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Speaker 7: They're more than that two and a half to three

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Speaker 7: winter hooks, and these waleys just they just smacked the

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Speaker 7: with Brassy's the fathead middles statewide. Also, we didn't get

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Speaker 7: all the mindals in the state of Minnesota aren't going

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who I talked to Denny, but somebody

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if there are pin mindows, I'm

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Speaker 7: We see that a lot in the winter time bill,

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Speaker 7: And we try to accommodate that whenever we can. Sometimes

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Speaker 7: With the exception of some of these avid walleye fishermen,

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Speaker 7: You know, we have that for those guys also. So

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Speaker 2: Interesting Now you were showing me a mineral that I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because our rivers here are so flooded from all

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Speaker 7: and I haven't I haven't worked that river for over

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Speaker 7: named them appropriate because they are the fastest mental I've

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Speaker 7: that that's as good a wall I catching mindal as

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Speaker 7: the redtails and the creek jubs. So what we got

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Speaker 7: but it's really a good mental that is something that

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Speaker 2: I've got to agree with it. I hadn't never seen

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Speaker 2: I mean they jump and yeah, they I think those

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Speaker 7: In the in the bait we don't, Yes, sir, If

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Speaker 7: we don't keep a screen over them, they'll all be

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 7: They are the craziest jumping mintal I have ever seen.

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Speaker 7: You definitely got to keep your lid on your mental bucket.

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Speaker 7: I tell the guys that don't leave that lid in

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Speaker 2: I think that's awesome. Daddy, are you Are you seeing

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Speaker 2: lots of deer hunters coming into you know? I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't sell any any deer hunting equipment or shelves

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Speaker 7: So other than selling some license, which we do, I

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Speaker 2: All right, just to check and too, Denny, we're going

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Speaker 2: to be out of time, my friend, but I appreciate

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Speaker 2: sob big tears in just a moment, but that's kind

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Speaker 2: of my issue. But anyway, Denny, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for all that you've offered and all that you shared

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Speaker 2: with us and our listeners, my friend, and I'll see

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Speaker 2: you real soon.

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Speaker 7: You bet been my pleasure, my folks.

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Speaker 2: That's Denny Fletcher, Fletcher's Bait and Tackle. We'll take a

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Speaker 2: pause and we will be right back with the mister

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Speaker 2: Stan Tequila. Oh, by the way, he's got a new

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Speaker 2: book out, dude. We'll talk about that along with he's

446
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: got a new channel that you can watch.

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Speaker 5: It's so cool.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Stan after this.

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Speaker 8: Welcome back to Fan Outdoors, joined now by author, naturalist and.

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Speaker 5: Photographer Stan Tequila.

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Speaker 8: Whether it's in Minnesota, Alaska, or Africa, He's always in

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Speaker 8: search of all things wild and natural. He may even

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Speaker 8: know more about animals than they do themselves.

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Speaker 5: And you thought the cat knew the outdoors.

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Speaker 8: Here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on fan.

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Speaker 2: Outdoors, Stan, good morning. Are flying squirrels active? Are flying

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Speaker 2: squirrels active all night long?

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Speaker 5: Didn't even give him time to say hello.

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Speaker 2: No, I was just thinking that. I gotta.

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Speaker 5: I want to get that in good grief, Captain. Let

461
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Speaker 5: the guy breath.

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00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: No, there's no breathing when I'm around, because I have questions.

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Speaker 5: Holy mackerel, Good morning, guys, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Stand Go ahead and ask it again, Captain, and get

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Speaker 3: it out there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've gone it. I want to forget. Sorry if

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Speaker 2: I have to ask it again. Are flying squirrels active

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Speaker 2: all night long?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely without a doubt? And we can prove it. I

470
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Speaker 5: feel like I've been set up here, so uh, you

471
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Speaker 5: can what I started last week with a live stream

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Speaker 5: of my flying squirrels. So now people who've been hearing

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Speaker 5: me talk about them for years and years and hearing

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Speaker 5: Billy talk about them for years and years can actually

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Speaker 5: see them because a lot of people don't don't see

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Speaker 5: these flying squirrels. They are, you know, they come out

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Speaker 5: at night obviously, and they're you know, just hard to see.

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Speaker 5: So what I did was, I've set up a camera

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Speaker 5: that has night vision on it and it's video and

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Speaker 5: it's live, and I just put it on my feeder

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Speaker 5: and now I stream it. So you can go to

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Speaker 5: naturesmart dot com and then stroll down at the bottom

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Speaker 5: of the first page, the homepage, and you'll see there's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a link for a live feed there. Or

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Speaker 5: you can go to YouTube directly and go to nature

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Speaker 5: Smart Media and you'll find the link there also. And

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Speaker 5: I started, Yeah, I started right at sunset, so it's

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Speaker 5: not running now. I just turned it off. In fact,

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Speaker 5: it runs. I run it all night long. I'll probably

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Speaker 5: change that in the future to run maybe two three

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Speaker 5: hours or something like that. We'll see. And you can

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Speaker 5: tune in. The main thing to do is to tune

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Speaker 5: in right when it's getting dark because they are just

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Speaker 5: we get three, four, five at a time, who come,

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Speaker 5: you know, zipping in and there's always squabbles, and they're

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Speaker 5: always sitting together looking adorable and you know, having a

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Speaker 5: good time. So anyhow, like I said, you can go

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Speaker 5: to nature smart dot com and take a look at

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Speaker 5: that Hey, and while you're there. While you're there at

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Speaker 5: nature smart dot com, you can sign up for my

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Speaker 5: new newsletter. I just started this a couple of weeks

502
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Speaker 5: ago also, so now every two weeks you get an

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Speaker 5: email from me with a of my blog posting plus

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00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 5: any kind of trips and extra things that I'm you know,

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Speaker 5: working on and things like that. So people, and of

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00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 5: course it's free, and of course it's just me. I

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Speaker 5: don't you know, I don't work with anybody. I don't

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Speaker 5: sell it to anybody or anything like that. It's just me.

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Speaker 5: So people can go to nature smart dot com and

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Speaker 5: then sign up for the the newsletter. Also while they're

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Speaker 5: checking out the live feed for the flying squirrels and

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Speaker 5: by the way, and there's one, there's wait wait there's more.

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Speaker 5: Uh and then wait if all goes yeah, it all

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Speaker 5: goes well. I'm setting up a second camera this weekend

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Speaker 5: that we'll also watch the flying squirrels, but it'll see

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Speaker 5: them flying in. So you'll actually see them gliding in

517
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 5: because the current one just has the feeder. It's real

518
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 5: tight shot on the on the feeder. This one will

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Speaker 5: show this flying squirrels flying in. Hopefully I'm working on

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Speaker 5: it right now. I was building it yesterday and doing

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Speaker 5: some testing on the cameras and it's a newer four

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Speaker 5: K camera that hopefully is going to be able to

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Speaker 5: do and it's a what they call a PTZ camera

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Speaker 5: at pans it tiltsid zooms and things like that, so

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Speaker 5: we should be able to have some fun with it too,

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Speaker 5: and that'll all be on the live feed also.

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Speaker 2: Well, I watched it. I watched it for a while

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Speaker 2: yesterday last night, Stan and when I watched them come in,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't see them come in, but I knew what

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Speaker 2: they were doing because all of a sudden they show

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Speaker 2: up on the side of the feeder and it's so cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really see and that's what Yeah, that's my like

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Speaker 5: of it. I like what I have now, but it

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Speaker 5: doesn't show the full story. It doesn't show them, you know,

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Speaker 5: gliding in or flying in. And this new one is

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Speaker 5: going to be a new feeder. I'll run both of

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Speaker 5: them at the same time, so you'll be able to

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Speaker 5: see the close up of the feeder and then you'll

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Speaker 5: see a wider view to be able to see them

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Speaker 5: coming in. And this will probably be at two different locations,

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Speaker 5: so which is kind of fun. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 5: doing this at my house, so I got one feeder

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Speaker 5: in my front yard, one feeder in my backyard, and

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Speaker 5: we'll see how this goes. I could be in for trouble,

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Speaker 5: who knows. But anyhow, for those those interested in flying squirrels,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna love it.

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Speaker 3: Do people see flying squirrels and they miss in identify

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Speaker 3: them as like red squirrels or any or they just

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Speaker 3: are not seen because they're so nocturnal.

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Speaker 5: They're just not seeing them unless you're like a campfire.

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Speaker 5: And now I believe, Bob, you've said that before, where

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Speaker 5: you've been like standing and I can't fire someone saw

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Speaker 5: one fly by or something like that. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly,

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00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: but any rate, that's how most people see them. They

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00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 5: don't really get to see them see them. Some people

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Speaker 5: get lucky because they're at their bird feeder and they

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Speaker 5: turn on the light outside and then they can see

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Speaker 5: them briefly before they all take off. But generally speaking,

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Speaker 5: most people don't see them. So and to answer you know,

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Speaker 5: more specifically Bill's question, there's been many times where five

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Speaker 5: six o'clock in the morning, like right now, they're still

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Speaker 5: coming into the feeder, there's no more peanuts left, you know,

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00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: they've cleaned them out, but they still stop in the

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Speaker 5: chack just in case. So they are active right up

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Speaker 5: until the time gets dark or excuse me, until the

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Speaker 5: time gets light. And lately mine are coming out, I

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Speaker 5: don't know, twenty minutes a half hour before it's dark.

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Speaker 5: So they're really they're they're showing up at the feeder looking,

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Speaker 5: you know, early while it's still light out. So and

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Speaker 5: they get conditioned to these things too. They get conditioned

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Speaker 5: to the food.

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Speaker 2: So if the food isn't their stand for a few

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Speaker 2: days or something, do you lose them? Do they get

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Speaker 2: bored and look for other sources of food.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not so much as they get bored, is

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Speaker 5: that they need to find food every day in order

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Speaker 5: to survive, and so they go out looking for it.

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Speaker 5: And they have many places in which they go to

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Speaker 5: find food, and they are they will store some of

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Speaker 5: the food for the winter time. So they do take

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Speaker 5: a bunch of the peanuts back to their nest and

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Speaker 5: then they'll store those in the winter time. So there's

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Speaker 5: you know, it's like bird feeding. People say, well, I

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Speaker 5: can't go on vacation because you know, my birds it's like, no,

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00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: they'll they you know, they have wings and they know

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Speaker 5: how to use them. You know, they will fly to

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00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 5: the next feeder or to the next area. And your

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00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 5: flying squirrels will have like a circuit in which they

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Speaker 5: move around from place to place to place where they

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Speaker 5: know where the food's at, and they just kind of

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00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 5: move around from place to place looking for this food.

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Speaker 5: And so it's it's generally not a problem because there

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Speaker 5: will be plenty of nights where I'm not feeding them. Uh,

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Speaker 5: but you know, generally almost every night, I'm pretty good

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Speaker 5: about that. And then I usually send out something on

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00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 5: Instagram and Facebook to say that hey, we're streaming live

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 5: and for people to check in, so.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of nice new updates on your website.

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Speaker 3: Another one that's grabbed my attention is a wanted poster that.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a question?

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Speaker 3: Do you have any interesting wildlife in your backyard? Contact

602
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Speaker 3: Stan and you'll come photographic give us an idea of

603
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Speaker 3: what your what would trip your trigger?

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Speaker 5: Stan, I have.

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Speaker 2: Another flying squirrel question before you change.

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Speaker 9: Too much, Okay, I will I guess back away from

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00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 9: the microphone, all right, I guess this is I guess

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Speaker 9: this is Bill show.

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Speaker 1: So it is.

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Speaker 2: All right, good, all right. I just got a text

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Speaker 2: from Tommy George and who is listening. He always is,

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Speaker 2: and he wants to know if the full moon will

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Speaker 2: have any impact on the flying squirrel activity.

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Speaker 5: Uh, generally not. They they're active every single night, whether

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00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 5: they want to be or not. This is life or

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00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: death for them. They have to find food, especially when

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00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: we start heading into the winter, They're out there, you know,

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00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 5: specifically looking for food. And so they have to do this.

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Speaker 5: So following cycles of the moon is not something that

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Speaker 5: they have the luxury of doing. They have to get

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Speaker 5: out there every single you know night and they're looking

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Speaker 5: for food. Now, having said that, there are times where

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Speaker 5: the weather is so bad that the flying squirrels don't

624
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: come out and they'll stay, you know, hold up for

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00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: about you know, a day or a night, I should say,

626
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: and then come out the following night, depending on how

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00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 5: bad it is, depending on how much food they have,

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Speaker 5: depending on how far away your feeder is from their home.

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Speaker 5: Those types of things will all determine whether or not

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Speaker 5: they are, you know, how active they are.

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Speaker 2: Do they store food like a chipmunk or some of

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Speaker 2: the other animals.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do a certain amount of it, not a

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Speaker 5: huge amount. Chipmunks will do a large large amount, and

635
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 5: where the flying squirrels do a smaller amount, and they

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 5: typically these flying squirrels for the winter, so coming up here,

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00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: the winter housing is usually always a tree cavity, so

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00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: it's inside of a tree, and they don't you know,

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00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 5: so those are limited and they're often very valuable places

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: for protection. And unlike gray squirrels that make a leaf

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00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 5: nest called a dre those dray nests they use as

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00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 5: temporary housing and they can use them. The flying squirrels

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00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: don't have that, so they have to get you know,

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00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 5: go to a very specific tree cavity and that's where

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00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 5: they live, which also, by the way, makes it vulnerable.

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Speaker 5: There's so many things going on here too. Because these

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00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 5: tree cavities are so highly sought after. Raccoons oftentimes will

648
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 5: utilize the same cavities, and the raccoons are not very

649
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 5: i don't know, clean, and they oftentimes defecate inside their cavity.

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00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 5: And then when the flying squirrels use these cavities, they

651
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 5: pick up something called raccoon roundworm, and it really affects

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00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 5: the flying squirrels. It affects their balance and affects their

653
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Speaker 5: you know, they have a hard time sitting up, they

654
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 5: have a hard time, they tremble and think things like that.

655
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: So you have to be really and that's it just

656
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 5: goes to point out how valuable tree can cavities are.

657
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 5: So for people who have any kind of property and

658
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 5: have you know, large dying trees with cavities in them,

659
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 5: they shouldn't be cutting them down. These are really extremely

660
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 5: important for any kind of habitat. All sorts of things

661
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 5: use them. And you know, you'll probably never know how

662
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: how many will use it, but they really do, and

663
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: the should be something you should should consider because I

664
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: know a lot of people just routinely just cut down

665
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 5: everything instead, and really you should leave some of the

666
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 5: things standing so that you got you know, not just

667
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: woodpeckers either. I'm talking lots of different things that can

668
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 5: use these.

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Speaker 2: Well. With the Emerald ash war out here anyway, there's

670
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of dead trees, just what

671
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, however, you know with the ash trees, ash

673
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: trees typically don't get big cavities in them. Well, having

674
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Speaker 5: said that that, let me take that back, because I've

675
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 5: got a fairly decent ash tree that's got a couple

676
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 5: of small cap but he's in it. But typically we're

677
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 5: talking about maples and oaks that and not even so

678
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 5: much as elms. But the bass woods can have some

679
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: nice cavities in them too, So you know, you know,

680
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 5: be mindful when you're out there looking at these things.

681
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Bob, you got two minutes, Kay.

682
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 5: Wanted poster, what.

683
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: Sort of backyard wildlife would peak your interest?

684
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: And well, you'd be surprised because I would be interested

685
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 5: in just about anything. Uh, this is Bob's referring to

686
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 5: on my website again, nature smart dot com. You can

687
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 5: I have a wanted poster there, and so I'm always

688
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 5: looking for opportunities in which to capture wildlife and it

689
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: could be something as basic as a you know, a

690
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: Robin nest On up to fox Stends and things like that,

691
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 5: and people oftentimes contact me about that. I come by,

692
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: we set up a time and if I'm able to

693
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: capture images, what I do is I make a really

694
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: nice print for them, and you know, leave a print

695
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: with them of the wildlife that they had in their

696
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 5: backyard from my adventure. They're trying to get things, so

697
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: it's really kind of a fun thing to do, and

698
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 5: people get to learn about the wildlife that they do

699
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 5: have and they get to get a nice print to

700
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: put on the wall afterwards too.

701
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: Go ahead, probably.

702
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 5: Thirty seven seconds.

703
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: I saw a spotted salamander well a couple about a

704
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 3: week ago on my dog walk. It was rainy out

705
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: and you know, the temperatures were cooling. It was moving

706
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: as fast as the salamander would move. I'm assuming it

707
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: was looking for a place to hibernate. Where amphibians like that?

708
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: Where do they hibernate? Are they looking for water to

709
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: go to the bottom of a you know, some silt,

710
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: or where's a salamon going to hibernate?

711
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 5: That is exactly where salabators are going to hibernate. But

712
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: at this time of year they're moving. They're they're migrating

713
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: from their summering areas to their wintering areas. And these

714
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: migration areas are kind of well traveled, but they're only

715
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 5: traveled in you know, in the fall, in the spring,

716
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 5: and uh, this is the time you can see them

717
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: the most. Now, would you say spotted salamon or do

718
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 5: you mean a tiger?

719
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

720
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yellow spot so black body yellow spots yep.

721
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Speaker 5: Yellow spot. Okay, so tiger salamanic because there is a

722
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 5: spotted salamonar it's got blue dots on it. So I

723
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: was just trying to classify clarify there. But yeah, these

724
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: tiger salamanners used to be found everywhere. You can find

725
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 5: them all over the place. People had them in their

726
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: window wells, in their house, all over the place, and

727
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: they are truly an indicator species of the health of

728
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: the environment. And uh tip. What happens though, is that

729
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 5: you've got these ephemeral ponds, these ponds where the salamoners

730
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: go to, and they kind of migrate to and from,

731
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 5: and then you know, somebody builds a house and boom,

732
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: right in the middle of their migratory path, and then

733
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you have all these salamanders showing

734
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: up and you're you're trying to figure out why. It's

735
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 5: because they've been using it that these are historic routes

736
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 5: that are that are used for generation after generation really

737
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 5: and yeah, so yeah, there's so much going on out there,

738
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 5: you guys that I don't think as we people kind

739
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 5: of quite grasp the magnitude of it all. But we

740
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 5: hardly see salamanders anymore. They just the numbers of them

741
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 5: are going down so much. They reminder that these animals

742
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 5: kind of absorb water through their skin from the environment,

743
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 5: and so therefore they are absorbing the chemicals that are

744
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 5: in the environment, and this is what their downfall is.

745
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 5: So they don't they don't actually drink per se. They

746
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 5: bring in the moisture through their skin, and then when

747
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 5: they bring in that moisture, they're also bringing in the chemicals,

748
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: which causes all sorts of problems for them.

749
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Speaker 2: Stan I think that the whatever the common frog is,

750
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Speaker 2: I've only seen a couple of them this summer, and

751
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: now when I do notice them, I never used to

752
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: pay much attention, but they strike a chord and it's

753
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: a memory cord that that's pretty cool. I haven't seen

754
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: a frog for a long time. I've seen lots of

755
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: toads out here because they seem to hatch and they're

756
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: just eighty beatty things in the summer, just micers almost

757
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: well just a little because the grandkids they're picking them

758
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: up all the time and calling them frog. So I've

759
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: got to correct things.

760
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 5: But I can help you with that one. Yeah, So

761
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 5: those are American toads. We have two species of toad.

762
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 5: We have the American toad, and then we have a

763
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 5: Canadian toad. And this Canadian toad is a species. It's

764
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: only found in the far northwestern portions of Minnesota and

765
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 5: then up into Canada. And uh, they look almost identical,

766
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: but they sound very different from each other. And the

767
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 5: h just to help out with with the grandkids. And

768
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: when they're calling it a frog, they're technically, uh, not wrong,

769
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: because are you ready for this? I gotta get I

770
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: gotta get this right. All toads are frogs, but not

771
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: all frogs are toads. I'll give you a second to

772
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 5: think about that. So, yeah, so all all toads are frogs,

773
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: but not all frogs are toads. M yeah, I know.

774
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 5: So the way this works is is that a toad

775
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 5: is a type of frog. It's just that we as people,

776
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: we try to, you know, categorize things. That's what we

777
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 5: like to do. And and so these toads are a

778
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 5: type of frog. But they they're terrestrial. They have usually

779
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 5: bumpy skin, usually dry skin, and they live on the

780
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 5: ground except for when they're mating, because they mate in

781
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 5: the water. And whereas frogs tend to have wet skin,

782
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 5: smooth skin, not bumpy and they live in the water.

783
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: But they're all basically doing the same type of thing.

784
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 5: It's all a type of amphibian.

785
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Speaker 2: And they don't give you to wards.

786
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: No, they do not. I still get that question asked

787
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 5: to be all the time, and it's like, no, they

788
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 5: do not give you words. Now, what they do do,

789
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 5: which is kind of cool, is that they have these

790
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 5: little do do. They've got glands that they secrete a

791
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 5: toxin that when toad is you know, like picked up

792
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 5: by a dog for example, it releases these It's called

793
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 5: a paranoid gland. This paranoid gland emits this kind of

794
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's like a yellowish, viscous substance and

795
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 5: it really tastes bad and the dogs don't like it

796
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 5: and it causes him to folment the mouth and it's

797
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 5: a real problem. So don't let your dogs pick up

798
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 5: the toads.

799
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stan, we have to take a pause. You're okay, Stan,

800
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: Let's do it wonderful. Before we do, I've got her

801
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: wish a very happy birthday to and from Alec to

802
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: day happy ye And yeah we will sing later, but

803
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: right now, and and she wasn't gonna want me to

804
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: use her last name, but I'm going to anyway and

805
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: logan happy birthday. So we'll take a pause and we'll

806
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: be right back with more Stan after this five minutes

807
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: past the hour of seven a m. On this Saturday

808
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: morning edition of Fan Outdoors, Bob Saint Pierre in studio

809
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: in the big chair, and our guest is the mister

810
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: Stan Tequila, and you can find him and lots of

811
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: new things that he's told us about on nature smart

812
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: dot com. Stan, you have a new book out too,

813
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: do you not?

814
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: Well, I've got I'm working on a bunch of new books.

815
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 5: I've got six new books coming out in spring of

816
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 5: twenty six, so not for another couple of months yet,

817
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 5: but they are they're on their way. I don't have

818
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 5: the list in front of me, but there's a several

819
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 5: new books for the Midwest. I have a redo of

820
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 5: a book I did close to forty years ago called

821
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 5: Nature Smart. It's the name of my company and kind

822
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 5: of redone that book from a long, long time ago,

823
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 5: and it's it's what an adventure this has been. So

824
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 5: this is a book I wrote, like I said, forty

825
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 5: some years ago, and so I'm working on it now.

826
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 5: The publishers wanting me to to redo it and kind

827
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: of update everything and then make it more regionalized and

828
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 5: make it for the Midwest. And so I'm like, okay,

829
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 5: this is great. So they said send me the send

830
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 5: me the file. So they sent me the file and

831
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 5: I'm going through it and I'm thinking, why are there

832
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: so many typos and errors? And here I just couldn't

833
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 5: couldn't figure the darn thing out. And I got halfway

834
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 5: through the manuscript. As I'm going through this thing, and

835
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 5: it finally dawned on me. I was like, oh, I

836
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: know why this is all got so many typos. I

837
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 5: wrote this on a typewriter. There was no computers back then,

838
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: you know, to spell check and all that stuff. And

839
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: so I looking scratching my head, going why is this terrible?

840
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 5: Look at look at that?

841
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: Look at it.

842
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh my gosh. So anyhow, so that's uh,

843
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: computers really help. They really do. Uh that I'm that

844
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 5: smart to notice that it's just that there's a bunch

845
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: of red squiggly lines underneath everything saying that it's all wild.

846
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: I remember stand in college, I'd have to type my papers.

847
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: When I'm trying to type on something like that to

848
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: turn in. It looked like it snowed in my room.

849
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Damasus, a ripped mountain. Crumple them up and

850
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: throw them on the floor, and it took me a

851
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: long time, and I usually had to height somebody to

852
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: do them.

853
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 5: Somebody type it up. I use a lot of white

854
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 5: out on those things. But then it's really hard to

855
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 5: type over. You had to really wait till it's try

856
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 5: and then you can type over it. And in fact,

857
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 5: I think the first four books, five books I did,

858
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 5: we're all on a typewriter, and I turned in paper manuscripts.

859
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 5: So that was literally what I turned in, just like

860
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 5: you know the old book. Just here you go, title

861
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 5: page and all. It's so things have changed dramatically.

862
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: I bet they have, but I'll bet there's lots of

863
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: other things. Did you find anything on the on the

864
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: book that was that old stand that was you had

865
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Speaker 2: to change because it's no longer act? Yes?

866
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, there was. There was. I was reading

867
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 5: through and going, oh, this got a change. You know,

868
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: lots of lots of things. Here's a good example of it.

869
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: Throughout my career, we've always said that birds have very

870
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 5: little or no ability to smell. And now the latest

871
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 5: research is showing that, in fact, they probably do have

872
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 5: a fairly decent olfactory system, and they're basing this on

873
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 5: some uh you know, because you can't just ask them, here,

874
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 5: smell this, do you smell it?

875
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: You know?

876
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: Uh, So you end up having to look at the

877
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 5: brain of these birds and the olfactory lobe. There's just

878
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 5: this bulb, this little projection off the brain that is

879
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 5: really where all the scents are registered at, and they

880
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 5: look at that and see how large it is in

881
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 5: comparison to the bird, kind of like a comparison of size,

882
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 5: and then they're making their judgments from there. And then

883
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 5: there's been a researcher who did some great work on

884
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 5: dark eyed junkos. Dark eyed junkos are a small sparrow

885
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 5: type bird. They show up here in the wintertime, so

886
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 5: we don't have them in the summer, but they show

887
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 5: up in the Twin Cities area for the wintertime. They're

888
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 5: the ones that are just shown up now. They're kind

889
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: of gray and they come to your feeders and they're

890
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 5: probably one of the most common feederbirds in the wintertime.

891
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 5: And anyhow, they were doing studies with this with these

892
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 5: birds and discovered that they have the ability to differentiate

893
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 5: between different members of the family by their scent, by

894
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 5: how they smell. But what's more interesting about it is

895
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 5: that the smell that emanates from the birds comes from

896
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: the fact that they have a lot of birds, not all.

897
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 5: A lot of birds have an oil gland, as u

898
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 5: patrol gland that they squeeze and they can oil their

899
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 5: feathers with it, which, by the way, we always thought

900
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 5: was for waterproofing, turns out it's not. Anyhow. Bacteria, which

901
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 5: our microscopic feed on the oil, and as the bacteria

902
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: are feeding on the oil that's on the bird's feathers,

903
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 5: the bacteria gives off a smell and that's what the

904
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 5: birds are smelling. And that's in each one of them

905
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 5: is a little bit different because their oil is slightly different,

906
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: and that's how the birds are telling the difference between them.

907
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 5: So it's going back to what I said earlier, there's

908
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 5: so much going on in nature that we just have

909
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 5: no clue about. We just it's right there under our

910
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 5: noses pun intended. You know that it's right there and

911
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 5: we don't even know it.

912
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: Well. I always wonder too, because when a field is harvested,

913
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: you might see one or two, either ducks or geese

914
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: or just a small number. But the next day they

915
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 2: are just hordes of them coming in. That is, they'll

916
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: come in by the hundreds. And they've got to either

917
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: communicate in my eyes or they they rely on their

918
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: eyes and see it. But I don't understand how one

919
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: or two birds can impact a number so large in

920
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: twenty four hours.

921
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they communication between individuals of bird individuals is

922
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 5: well documented and it's something that and they share this

923
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 5: information which is amazing, and they're able to communicate that,

924
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 5: you know, where the food sources are at. In addition

925
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 5: to that, they follow, like right now, what I see

926
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 5: a lot of In fact, I always stop the other night,

927
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 5: and I kind of kicked myself not doing it, is

928
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 5: that when they're farmers are their fields. What they're doing

929
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 5: is they're turning over the soil and it's exposing all

930
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 5: the grubs. And then you get these gulls behind them,

931
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 5: hundreds of them. Who has the you know, the tractors

932
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 5: going along the gulls. The ones in the back are

933
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 5: moving to the front, and the ones you know, and

934
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 5: then it kind of keeps they keep rotating over each

935
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 5: other and I was driving along and I was watching

936
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: this and I thought, oh, and the sun was on it,

937
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 5: and it was it was like late day. It was

938
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 5: absolutely perfect. I thought, I need to stop and do

939
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 5: some video of that because it's such a remarkable thing.

940
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 5: I didn't, and now I kicked myself for it. But it's, uh,

941
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 5: it's very common for them to do that, and they

942
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 5: find these grubs in the fields. So really those birds

943
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: as they're doing that, are helping the farmers a lot, uh,

944
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 5: and any kind of spilled grain. Also they're they're grabbing,

945
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 5: so it's a you know, it's kind of a reliable

946
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 5: food source for them and they're taking advantage of it.

947
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, and I'm it's always just a mez me.

948
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: Some of the things we don't know that now we

949
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: do after listening to you and some of the stories

950
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 2: and some of the wisdom that you impart on. Bob,

951
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: not me, but I'm.

952
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 5: Bob am I am I allowed to talk again, Captain.

953
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if it depends what you're going to say.

954
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: I was gonna correct stand and say seagulls, but I

955
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 3: probably get I was wondering, though, why is it just

956
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: the goals that are you know, Johnny on the spot

957
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 3: to get those grubs, because there's an awful lot of

958
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: different birds that you know, would take that meal if

959
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 3: they could.

960
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 5: Just they're used to it.

961
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: They've they've been conditioned to look for the tractor and

962
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: be ready to roll.

963
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 5: I mean, what why why gulls for that, you know,

964
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 5: food source. It's something that they've they've learned and they're

965
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 5: taking advantage of and they're the ones who are in

966
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 5: the flocks. I mean other birds take advantage of it,

967
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 5: but they're just not in flocks.

968
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: I know.

969
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 5: Santial cranes take advantage of it too. They move in

970
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 5: after the you know, the equipment's gone, and they'll go

971
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 5: around and feed that way also, So that's very common.

972
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 5: So it's a it's just a matter of that's the

973
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 5: species that happens to, you know, be well suited to

974
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 5: do that. And they're moving through right now in very

975
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: large numbers, migrating through. We have two species that are

976
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 5: migrating through right now. We have the ring built gull.

977
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 5: The ring bill is probably our most common gull. But

978
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 5: then we have Franklin's skulls. And the Franklin skulls are

979
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 5: this prairie gull from north Dakota and northwest Minnesota up

980
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 5: into Canada. Who are they They don't go to the shore. Basically,

981
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 5: they go to lakes and they're moving through. Also, this

982
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 5: is in the springtime. When you see the Franklin skulls,

983
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 5: they're a black headed gull, so you can notice that

984
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 5: at this time of the year, they're no longer and

985
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 5: breeding conditions, so they don't have that black heads. They

986
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: have a partial black head, which unless you get a

987
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 5: really good look at them, you're not going to see.

988
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 5: So take a little closer look at your goals next

989
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 5: time you see him. You'll notice some differences between the.

990
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: Two stand Normally we'd have to go, but are you

991
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: willing to give us a little bonus segment?

992
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 5: I'd love to. Let's do it, all right, as long

993
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 5: as we can talk about flying squirrels, we can do that.

994
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 5: We can do that.

995
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: And okay, coming right up, we're going to take a pause.

996
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: But coming up and from Alec this is for you,

997
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: Happy birthday. We're gonna have a bonus segment for Stan Tequila.

998
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: And only if you promise to go to nature Smart

999
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: and check out the flying squirrel camera tonight. Okay, everybody,

1000
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: put your hands in the air. If you're willing to

1001
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,479
Speaker 2: do that, We'll take a pause and be right back

1002
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: with a bonus segment, a fan or a tequila man.

1003
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: We're back Fan Outdoors that is until the eight o'clock hour,

1004
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: but keep it right here in the zone follows us

1005
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: and it's it's always really really fun to listen to.

1006
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: That would be with Trent Tucker and Davey Sinecon, Bob

1007
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: Saint Pierre is with me and Fan Outdoors this week.

1008
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: Stan Tequila is it's a bonus stand tequila by the way,

1009
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: and we're delighted he's agreed to stay with us too. Bob,

1010
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: do you want to kick things off? I'll ask you

1011
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: this first before I shut you off.

1012
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 5: Great, thank you.

1013
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: Well, we've covered we've covered amphibians, and it got me wondering,

1014
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: are already lizards? Yeah, you snakes will stay away from

1015
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: snakes because but I was thinking about reptiles and are

1016
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: there any lizards in the state of Minnesota.

1017
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, there is. We have a couple of different

1018
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 5: prairie skinks. Skinks are type of lizard that are typically smaller,

1019
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 5: not as thin as what we might think of a

1020
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 5: you know, like a lizard. But excuse me, there can

1021
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 5: be very common in some areas that have hillsides and

1022
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 5: with good sunning areas. And they they're kind of brownish

1023
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 5: with thin tan stripes running down them. But yeah, we

1024
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 5: have a couple of different types of skinks, and then

1025
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 5: we have a seven lined race runner, which is really

1026
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 5: hard to find. Generally, they're found more in the southern

1027
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 5: part of the state and then or so into Iowa,

1028
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 5: and then you've prefer your south from there. But yeah,

1029
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 5: we do have several lizard species excluding the snakes, reptile

1030
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 5: species excluding the snakes.

1031
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1032
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, also, and I have not seen one in quite

1033
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 5: a while, but the glass lizard. Glass lizards are a

1034
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 5: legless lizard. They look just like a snake, but they

1035
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 5: are not a snake. They are a lizard. I mean

1036
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 5: that they have eyes, eyes that blink. It's just if

1037
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 5: they don't have any legs, so they look like a snake,

1038
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 5: but they're not.

1039
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: What So if it's a lizard that looks like a

1040
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: snake without any legs, what makes it a lizard, Like

1041
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: I said, blinks Snakes can't blink.

1042
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 5: There's yeah, there's a lot of anatomy differences between them.

1043
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 5: Did you know that captain snakesky.

1044
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: I did not. I probably if I've seen one, I've

1045
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: mistaken it for a snake, and I don't go there.

1046
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 5: You never got kind of steering contest with a snake.

1047
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: No, no, you don't want to do that.

1048
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 5: Yeah. So snakes have a have a scale over their eye,

1049
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 5: so they they have no eye lids and they can't blink. Uh,

1050
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 5: So they obviously they sleep with their eyes open and

1051
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 5: they have a single scale that goes across their eye.

1052
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 5: Then when they are shedding their skin, you know, to

1053
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 5: grow larger, and they have to shed their outer skin

1054
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 5: to be able to come larger because they've got this

1055
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 5: you know, constricting skin on them, the eye turns blue,

1056
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 5: so you get this milky bluish color across their eye,

1057
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 5: and then you know that the scale is coming off

1058
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 5: of the eye surface. And at that point the snake

1059
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 5: is basically going around not being you know, like with

1060
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 5: bad cataracts, is what it's like. And so it goes

1061
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 5: around for a while for a day or two even

1062
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 5: more sometimes three days where it really can't see very well.

1063
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 5: And then when it sheds the skin, the skin comes off,

1064
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 5: the scale across the eye comes off with it and boom,

1065
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 5: they've got this clear vision again and they can continue on.

1066
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: So interesting. Can they go quite a while? Can a

1067
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: snake go quite a while stand without food?

1068
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 5: Oh? Gosh, Yes, snakes can go many months sometimes without eating. Well,

1069
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 5: the first of all, they do that in the winter time,

1070
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 5: but that's not voluntary. But then voluntarily speaking, they can

1071
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 5: go many many months without eating. At the nature center,

1072
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 5: I remember we had a redtail boa who just refused

1073
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 5: to eat for oh, I was better part of eight

1074
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 5: months or so for eight months nothing, didn't need to think.

1075
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 5: But what was so crazy about it was that it's

1076
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 5: still defecated on a regular basis, so all this was

1077
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 5: still in there. The digestive system these reptiles is so

1078
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 5: slow that things take forever to get through its system,

1079
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 5: and it extracts every bit of nutrients out of it

1080
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 5: or whatever they ate, and they're so they're highly efficient

1081
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 5: and they do really well. So yes, they can go long,

1082
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 5: long periods without eating.

1083
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: Interesting. I didn't realize that is the migration winding down yet.

1084
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 5: Some of them migration is Yeah, most of the migration

1085
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 5: is winding down. I hesitate because if I want to

1086
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 5: jump back in just a second to the reptiles amphibians

1087
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 5: coming off this spring in twenty six I've got a

1088
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 5: new field guide for the reptiles and Amphibians of the

1089
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 5: Midwest coming out. So that's another one of those six

1090
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 5: books that I couldn't remember all of them, and it

1091
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 5: just reminded me, Oh, yeah, I haven't ne reptil amphibian,

1092
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 5: but coming out in the springtime. But so back to

1093
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 5: the migration. So yeah, there's still plenty of birds who

1094
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 5: were migrating through. I don't know if you guys have

1095
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 5: had a chance to check out the birdcast dot org,

1096
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 5: but there's still plenty of birds moving through. I'll try

1097
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 5: to do it while we're talking here to see what

1098
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 5: what we had for you know, migration over hang on

1099
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 5: one second, here we go and one and forty five

1100
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 5: million birds last night. What you what you got?

1101
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the entire country. Uh yeah, because I'm looking

1102
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: at Carver County, which is where I'm at right now,

1103
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: and uh, they're showing.

1104
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 5: Very very few, if if any. So a lot of

1105
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 5: the nighttime migrators are you know, are moving through and

1106
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 5: now what we're seeing in the daytime migrators. These tend

1107
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 5: to be the bigger birds, like sandhill cranes, hawks, eagles. Uh,

1108
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 5: these birds are later migrators and the where's the smaller

1109
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 5: birds who migrate at night? Oh yeah, I'm looking at

1110
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 5: the nationwide map and it's mostly to the east and

1111
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 5: down to the south through Texas. So we're so most

1112
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 5: a lot looks like a lot of our nighttime migration

1113
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 5: with our small birds are done at least for now.

1114
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,959
Speaker 5: I'm sure there'll be some stragglers coming through, but they've

1115
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 5: they've really shifted over to the daytime migrators, like the

1116
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 5: hawks and eagles in the in the cranes swaps one's

1117
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 5: another big one too. Yeah, I've still seeing a few,

1118
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 5: but most of them are gone.

1119
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, they don't fly straight down, do they. I

1120
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: mean they don't. They don't head that way by themselves individually. Don't.

1121
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 2: They hit the currents and kind of circle when they're moving. Yeah.

1122
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 5: They are a flock migrator, so they'll go together in

1123
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 5: big flocks, and they use these thermals, these rising columns

1124
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 5: of warm air, to circle around up and up to

1125
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 5: get a free ride. Basically, so they ride these thermals

1126
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 5: up high. As the thermals rise up, the warm air

1127
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 5: cools off and as it cools off, it loses its lyft,

1128
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 5: loses its ability to go up, so then it peters

1129
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 5: out and then they kind of peel off of that

1130
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 5: one thermal and they go and find another thermal and

1131
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 5: ride that one up, and then they'll just keep on

1132
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 5: riding one thermal after another as they move continually further south.

1133
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 5: These again, are daytime migrating birds because they need those

1134
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 5: thermals in which to fly on. Now you've got some

1135
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 5: birds like cranes and swans who they can take advantage,

1136
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 5: and they do take advantage of these thermals, but they

1137
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 5: also migrate at night. So there's no steadfast you know

1138
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 5: rule that says, oh, they only do this or they

1139
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 5: only do that. That's simply not true. There's lots of

1140
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 5: these you know depends and maybes and you know type

1141
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 5: of migrators in there too. I'll throw one more topic

1142
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 5: out before we run out of time. There's a lot

1143
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 5: of folks keenly interested. And when the white tail deer

1144
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 5: rut is going to kick in, what will influence that?

1145
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 5: Is it light? Is a wind? Is a temperature? Is

1146
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 5: it all? Okay? I have not been out yet. I

1147
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 5: was supposed to go out this past week to for

1148
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 5: the white tail rut and start checking things out. But

1149
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 5: I was too busy putting together the flying squirrel camp

1150
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 5: the sea priorities. Yea, so I didn't make it out.

1151
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 5: Otherwise I could have had a good report for you.

1152
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 5: I'm gonna guess I'm gonna go on a limb here

1153
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 5: that some of the males are already running only because

1154
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 5: they're males and that's what they do. And but you

1155
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 5: know it's going to be more into you know, into November.

1156
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 5: But I mean, after all, we are what this twenty

1157
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 5: twenty fifth of October that's getting We're right in the custom.

1158
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 5: I would be shocked if they're not running. I will,

1159
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 5: hopefully in a couple of weeks when we talk again,

1160
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 5: I'll have some reports for you. But my whole was

1161
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 5: to get out this past week, but I have been

1162
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 5: obsessed with trying to get this whole live is live

1163
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 5: streaming going, And now I got one more camera I'm

1164
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 5: want to put up here, probably later today, depending on

1165
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 5: how the web it is out there, and then then

1166
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 5: there'll be a matter of running the waters for it.

1167
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 5: There's so much involved, and by the way I make

1168
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 5: it sound like it's just me out there doing it.

1169
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 5: I'm working with a good friend of mine, Tom Lawrence,

1170
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 5: who is kind of my computer guru, and my daughter Abby,

1171
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 5: who runs my website and does all my stuff. Without them,

1172
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 5: none of this would be possible. They are just absolutely

1173
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 5: amazing and doing such a great job at helping me out.

1174
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 5: I got these hair brain ideas, and they try to

1175
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 5: make it happen for me. So it's good to have

1176
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 5: family who knows things. It's really great.

1177
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it is, Stan. I'm looking out the window. We've

1178
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: got a little bit of light now now on the lake.

1179
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: I can see a bunch of probably one hundred to

1180
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: two hundred coots and they kind of common goal they

1181
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: should be. I can't believe there's many more left because

1182
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: they they are big flocks out there, and all of

1183
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: a sudden in the morning they're gone. But they suld

1184
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: move up and down the lake feeding.

1185
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, they are a later migrator too, and they will

1186
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 5: come through in big flocks like that the rest overnight

1187
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 5: on the lake and then you know, get moving again

1188
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 5: during the daytime. So we expect to see that at

1189
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 5: this time of year too. I have not checked the

1190
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 5: numbers up at hawk Ridge lately, but I would imagine

1191
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 5: they're doing pretty good up there too, because we've had

1192
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 5: some pretty favorable weather to push the birds along, and

1193
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 5: we are moving into November here, so we're going to

1194
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 5: be seeing the eagles will be moving next so I'm.

1195
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: And as a waterfowler, you always kind of hope that

1196
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 2: there's going to be a storm up north to push

1197
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: waterfowl down. And sometimes they stay a while. Sometimes they

1198
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: just maybe they don't keep going out and then they're gone.

1199
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's there's a lot you could do

1200
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 5: at this time of year too, if you're not out

1201
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 5: hunting there. I was out repairing all my wood dot

1202
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 5: boxes yesterday and uh, just because they kind of beat

1203
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 5: up over the summertime, and so you can get out there.

1204
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 5: If you're talking about waterfowl, you want to, you know,

1205
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 5: try to do some things. It's good to repair the

1206
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 5: existing ones you have right now. I would wait to

1207
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 5: put up new ones till the spring or uh, you know,

1208
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 5: depending on where you're gonna put them if you can

1209
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 5: get them in the ground. But you get the pole

1210
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 5: on the ground now and then maybe put the box

1211
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 5: up come up springtime. But this is a time year

1212
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 5: to be out there doing that type of stuff too.

1213
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 2: Stan, thank you for bonus time that you've given us

1214
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: this morning. It's much appreciated. But we will chat again

1215
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. Thank you, sir.

1216
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 5: All Right, guys, talk to you next time. Thanks Stan,

1217
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 5: have a great Saturday.

1218
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: Yes, that is Stania, one of our favorite guests ever

1219
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: on Fan Outdoors, and he is a wealth of information,

1220
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: something I have learned a great deal from somebody. But

1221
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: I have also learned a brighter and a greater appreciation

1222
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: for the wild outdoors than I had as a younger man.

1223
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: And now I find a lot of things pretty fascinating

1224
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: as I'm wandering around the fields in search of the

1225
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: wiley pheasant or just going for a walk, which I

1226
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: seldom do. There's usually a gun in my hand when

1227
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: I'm walking. But we'll take a pause our final one

1228
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: and be back with yours truly and Bob Saint Pierre

1229
01:12:43,240 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: after this. Well, it's the final segment of Fan Outdoors today.

1230
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: It's been really fun coming to you this morning. But

1231
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: let's ask Bob Saint Pierre your plans for the weekend

1232
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: and coming up.

1233
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 5: My friend, I am gonna go to the woods.

1234
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 3: I think this weekend I'm gonna go chase rough grouse

1235
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: and timberdoodles around Woodcock season ends. If you can believe that,

1236
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 3: we're starting to talk about the end of hunting seasons already,

1237
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 3: but Woodcock season ends on November third. So this is

1238
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: my last opportunity this weekend to get out because I'm

1239
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 3: going to Missouri. I will not be with you next weekend.

1240
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna film episode three of the Opening Day series

1241
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 3: next weekend in Missouri for the Bob Boye Quail opener

1242
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 3: in the state of Missouri with a biologist that works

1243
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: for us and his dad worked for the Missouri Department

1244
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: of Conservation. Kind of the appled in Far Fall, Far

1245
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 3: from the Tree, sort of story about Bob boy Quail

1246
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 3: and biologists. So I'm pretty excited to go do that.

1247
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: And there's a chance that I might see some timberdoodles

1248
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: and maybe even a rooster in Missouri. I've never hunted

1249
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,520
Speaker 3: in Missouri before, so lots of news, lots of firsts

1250
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 3: next weekend, you know.

1251
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: And most of the time what you hear from Missouri

1252
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: is there are the turkey hunting down there, and I

1253
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: know when I've fished down there on Oh Truman reservoir.

1254
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: From time to time, I'll see in the bays, the

1255
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: number of bays that are down there, I'll see turkeys

1256
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: flying from one side to the other, and it's it's

1257
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: really an interesting and interesting place to it. It's just

1258
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: far enough south that things really don't freeze up down

1259
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: there either.

1260
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a really a growth state for our organization.

1261
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of what to Quail Forever. Missouri has become

1262
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 3: what Pheasants Forever is in Minnesota in terms of number

1263
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 3: of members and the active habitat projects. So there's a

1264
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 3: good quail story to tell in Missouri. It's not a

1265
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 3: state on a lot of people's radar, But yeah, I'm

1266
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: excited to get first hand experience down there.

1267
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 2: Excellent. I know that yours truly will be out chasing

1268
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: the wily rooster today. I'm doing some walking. I walked

1269
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: yesterday for a while, but I haven't seen much. Of course,

1270
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: I haven't really gone to the back ends of some

1271
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: of the units that I need to get to and

1272
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: because well, because my legs were well.

1273
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 3: The birds are definitely getting chased around. Uh, there's there's

1274
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 3: a lot a lot of folks out peasant hunting largely

1275
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 3: pretty good success. But it's one of those things when

1276
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 3: the forecast is this year was very positive. It generates

1277
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of license sales, which is

1278
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: overall a good thing. And people are getting out and

1279
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 3: enjoying the outdoors, the fields and the forests. But the

1280
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 3: birds are they're sharpening up their survival skills right now.

1281
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. What what I am saying though, Bob, is I

1282
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: drove fair amount of miles yesterday and there's a lot

1283
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: of hunters out. Yeah, and I'm thinking, don't.

1284
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 5: These guys work? I wonder I wonder that about you.

1285
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 5: You get to you get to hunt all week.

1286
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: Log.

1287
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: What are you seeing in terms of corn coming out?

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot of standing corn. Yeah, yeah, which is

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01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: gonna make for a very good late season, I think,

1290
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 3: because that's my experience too. Everywhere I drive the beans

1291
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 3: have come out pretty quickly. But I think I saw

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 3: a report only twenty five percent of the corn is out,

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 3: which means seventy five percent of the corn is in.

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01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of places for those birds to hide.

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01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, there really are, and they come out. Well, we

1296
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: call it a golden hour. For me, I usually call it.

1297
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm really tired.

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01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 5: You call it happy hour, but yeah.

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: And we've had the antless season. I think that's wrapped

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01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: up now, the special season. But that being said, that's

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01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 2: one of the topics I wanted to chat just a

1302
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 2: moment about. And I'm disappointed in people because so many

1303
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 2: hunters are just out for antlers.

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01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 5: And.

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: I remind them that this is the tool. Shooting on

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01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: hunters are the tool the DNR has to manage the

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: resource and people that pass on dose because all they're

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: doing is hunting for antlers or hunting for horns and

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01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: so to speak, which is not accurate as stand would

1310
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: tell me, but it's they're doing the whole population a

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: bit of a disservice. And that doesn't include yours truly

1312
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: at all, because I have I am not hunting for antlers.

1313
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 2: I am hunting for meat to put in my freezer,

1314
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: and I really I will enjoy it and I will

1315
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: take multiple dose if the season and tags allow it to.

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01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 3: Well, clearly you know where my heart resides when it

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: comes to vedicon. I love Venicey above pretty much all

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01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: on their meat, and I was wondering with the skyrocketing

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01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: beef prices, I wonder if that will influence either the

1320
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 3: number of people out deer hunting or their willingness to

1321
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 3: harvested dough, because you know, the expensive a hunting license

1322
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 3: and a you know, you know, one piece of ammo

1323
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 3: is a heck of a lot more affordable than you know,

1324
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 3: what beef is right now.

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01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also people have to realize that a lot

1326
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: of guys, a lot of people will just take their

1327
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: animal to someplace else, a meat market or someplace, drop

1328
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 2: it off and be done with it. And that's not

1329
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 2: the case in this family whatsoever. I mean, usually it

1330
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: ends up in my garage and we end up cutting

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: it up.

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01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 3: And unless you make unless you make sticks, they're bacon.

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01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: Out of it.

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01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you do take some of it to processor.

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01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do. We take trim, and I don't

1336
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: take any of the good stuff, but we take trim

1337
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: in and I'll have that made. Last year we made

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01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: it into cheddar summer sausage, and we had about thirty

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 2: pounds of that maid it's gone.

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 3: So I got one of the last bites at the

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01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 3: tailgate of the pheasant opener.

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 5: Huh, you did. It's very good.

1343
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 2: It is really good. Everybody has got their own favorite

1344
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: processor and we found ours to the Garfields Smokehouse is

1345
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:45,879
Speaker 2: where we take.

1346
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't know that.

1347
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 3: So you go that past Alexandria then, yeah, it's not

1348
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 3: too far past.

1349
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: But a lot of the trim is made into different

1350
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 2: things there and they do a really nice job. As

1351
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: far as the bacon goes, Von Hanson's is really hard

1352
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: to beat. I mean it really really is. That's awesome bacon.

1353
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: But it's expensive when you have trim process. It's spending

1354
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: and maybe that dissuades some people too. But if you've

1355
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: got trim that you don't want, I'll take it.

1356
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say that I'll take any

1357
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 3: trim you don't want.

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01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: And you know, both Eric and Chad we will. We

1359
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: shoot we shoot bucks. But recently there's a guy out

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01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: in front of my place with a net out.

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01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: Dog got it. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. What's

1362
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 3: can you see what he's catching?

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01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: Both standing up? I saw the net come out, and

1364
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,440
Speaker 2: it had to be a good one. I'm guessing. Oh,

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01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 2: I can't tell. I haven't got my binoculars out, my

1366
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: my long eyes. I forgot what I was saying. Anyway,

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01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: But we do, we do the three of us. Our

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01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: family does shoot antlers deer. Yeah, yeah, as you know,

1369
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: because you get some of that time to time.

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01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 3: Quite quite grateful for any antler list deer or or

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01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 3: antler deer that comes with venice in my direction.

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01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree as stan is too. I mean, people

1373
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: don't misunderstand that man because he loves wild game and

1374
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: he just has He said he doesn't have the killing

1375
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: gene in him, and when we'll ask him, but he

1376
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: is not against hunting whatsoever. He really really is enjoys it.

1377
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 2: Some of the stuff that he has been gifted he

1378
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: will keep until Thanksgiving and that will be his meal.

1379
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool.

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01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 5: You said you're going pheasant hunting today. I am.

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01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: I am. Chat is actually coming up this evening, and

1382
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 2: he and I are going to hunt tomorrow for the

1383
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: day and but I'll go out by myself and and

1384
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: just kind of wander around and see if we can

1385
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 2: put something up. I've only I have only shot four shells,

1386
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 2: and that was on opening day. But I haven't missed yet,

1387
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 2: so I guess my record is intact.

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01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 3: How about you, Bob, I've shot My shooting percentage is

1389
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 3: not four for four.

1390
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm one.

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01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 3: For four maybe right now, but we'll we'll increase that

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01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 3: percentage as the season goes.

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01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: Do you do you think, Bob, but by changing species

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01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: as often as you do, does that impact that you're

1395
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: shooting at all?

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01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 5: I think probably a little bit.

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 3: I think there's I think I'm slow right now catching

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 3: up to pheasants. You know, if you just look at

1399
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 3: the flight speed of a woodcock or a grouse compared

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01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: to a pheasant, a pheasant can reach sixty miles an hour,

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01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 3: and if it's windy, which it often is, they go

1402
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: a lot faster.

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01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's my excuse.

1404
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: You're starting to do it, Archie.

1405
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 3: I've been swinging at softballs and when I go pheasant

1406
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 3: and it's hard to catch up to those fastballs.

1407
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Well, we do appreciate you coming in today, my friend. Hey,

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01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 2: I want to say thank you also to mister Danny

1409
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: Fletcher of Fletcher's Peyton Tackle, and a huge thank you

1410
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,799
Speaker 2: to Stan Tequila for giving us some extra time today.

1411
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: But thank you for allowing Bob and I and my

1412
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:39,560
Speaker 2: executive producer Brett Blakemore to come to accompany us and

1413
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 2: us on this journey we have so for Brett for

1414
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: Bob Saint Pierre. I am Billy Hildebrand, wishing you a

1415
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: fantastic weekend. God, we can't go fishing. It's not bad,

1416
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: it's everybody's out there.

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Speaker 3: Ta