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Speaker 2: Here, you know, and are people you love sometimes disappoint you? Yes,

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Speaker 3: You still have to decide are these two the best

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Speaker 2: Flaws and all, I honestly don't know. I do not know.

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Speaker 1: First off, it seems pretty clear that you know the

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Speaker 4: So when you're carrying a gun and you're sober, great,

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Speaker 4: And they should have called an uber, and they should

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Speaker 2: Did he have a carry permit? If he has a

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Speaker 6: These talkbackers are just ridiculous. We elected these people to

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Speaker 6: We love the road to redemption, but as a leader,

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Speaker 6: That's what the DFL is saying, Devils for Liberals.

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Speaker 2: I had heard that one before, Devils for Liberals.

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Speaker 1: My father taught me a lot in life teachable moments.

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Speaker 1: In spirit, I absolutely support this, Bakberg said.

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Speaker 2: The bill is to protect kids. All it is doing is.

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Speaker 1: From caroleven After weeks of gridlock, Inspector General bill to

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Speaker 2: We're going to be leaning.

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Speaker 2: Here here. Another important fraud.

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Speaker 1: Measure moved forward last week Representative Andrew Myers and HF

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Speaker 1: The bill would increase the number of years the state

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Speaker 1: May take a while because some of that money back,

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Speaker 1: the timeline of the non medicaid fraud feeding our future.

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Speaker 1: Forfeiture proceedings are running parallel to criminal cases. We're already

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Speaker 1: it's been a rough it's been a rough show this morning.

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Speaker 1: And when the data has become available, John Feelin has

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Speaker 1: been tracking the performance of Minnesota's paid Family Medical Leave

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Speaker 1: but not likely. What I want to know is I

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Speaker 1: want to see this data. I want to see this

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Speaker 1: data put up against relative data of people taking time

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Speaker 1: off of work through the conventional ways in which they

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Speaker 1: would typically go and do so, Like, that's what I

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Speaker 1: want to see comparative Like I know this. This is

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Speaker 1: all very valuable information from the standpoint of what was

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Speaker 1: being forecasted and what's actually happening, which raises the question

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Speaker 1: in my mind, Okay, how much of this is actual

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Speaker 1: legitimate as opposed to the potential of it being fraudulent.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing I'd like to know is what

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Speaker 1: was the rate of individuals taking this amount of time

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Speaker 1: off through the normal ways in which you would take

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Speaker 1: time off will work because I'm going to imagine and

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Speaker 1: I know that's by design the way the Democrats put

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Speaker 1: this forward. But my point is, if you can show

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Speaker 1: me that data, you can probably begin to unravel how

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Speaker 1: much of these claims and paid family medical leave are

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Speaker 1: actually legitimate versus how many of them should be investigated

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Speaker 1: as being fraudulent. So hopefully we can get our hands

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Speaker 1: on that information. At the end of this piece, John

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Speaker 1: Feelin writes, does a quote from the deed the Department

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Speaker 1: of Employment and Economic Development commissioner saying Minnesota paid leave

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Speaker 1: is working according to plan. I okay, but what is

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Speaker 1: that plan? Ultimately that's the other question involved here. All right,

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Speaker 1: two more items. I think we can fit these in.

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Speaker 1: Looking at the clock from Fox nine, social Security is

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Speaker 1: barreling towards being broken less than seven years.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's more bad news. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: There's a Washington think tank that is proposed a potential solution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about this.

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Speaker 1: They want to limit the benefits to one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars a year for couples. So if you've gone now,

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Speaker 1: you've worked, you've retired, and because of the amount of

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Speaker 1: money that you made when you worked, you're entitled to

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Speaker 1: get your Social Security benefits. But we all know that

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Speaker 1: Social Security is on track to run out of its

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Speaker 1: reserves by late twenty thirty two, which is bad news

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Speaker 1: for individuals like myself. They're looking for possible solutions. This

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Speaker 1: called the six figure Limit, written by a Centrist Committee

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Speaker 1: for Responsible Federal Budget, would also allow Social Security payments

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Speaker 1: at fifty thousand dollars a year for a single person. Now,

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Speaker 1: they're worried about the trust Fund running out of money,

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Speaker 1: in part because new tax provisions, they say from Fox

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Speaker 1: nine under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, reduce their

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Speaker 1: revenue to the trust Fund, speeding up depletion. When the

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Speaker 1: trust fund is emptied, federal law requires the payments be

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Speaker 1: limited to incoming payroll taxes. Republicans and Democrats do agree

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Speaker 1: that reforms are needed to save the program, but so

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Speaker 1: far we haven't found a solution. Democrats have proposed raising

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Speaker 1: Social Security taxes on the wealthiest Americans.

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Speaker 2: It's always their go to.

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the meantime, have floated an idea of raising

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Speaker 1: the retirement age, and generally oppose raising taxes to fund

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Speaker 1: social security. Social security advocates say there's essentially two solutions

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Speaker 1: to fixing social security.

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Speaker 2: Pay more, get less.

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Speaker 1: This is according to the Director of Social Security and

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Speaker 1: Disability Polly. Currently, only the wealthiest retired couples top one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in social security benefits annually. That is

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Speaker 1: expected to change as more people retire in coming years.

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Speaker 1: Although only a tiny fraction of couples will enjoy generous

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Speaker 1: benefits in the near term, six figure benefits will become increasingly.

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Speaker 2: Common over time.

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Speaker 1: According to the Social Security Administration, if you were to

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Speaker 1: retire at sixty seven and twenty twenty six, your maximum

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Speaker 1: monthly payment would be four thousand, one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: two dollars. If you retire at sixty two in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, your benefit would only be two thousand, nine

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine dollars, And if you retire at

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Speaker 1: seventy and twenty twenty six year max benefit would be

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Speaker 1: about five one hundred and eighty one dollars. Now, according

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Speaker 1: to the paper's authors, capping benefits for the wealthiest social

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Speaker 1: Security recipients would save one hundred billion to one hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety billion over a decade if the policy took

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Speaker 1: effect this year, and boost the benefits for the bottom

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Speaker 1: at seventy percent to eighty percent of beneficiaries. So here's

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Speaker 1: the issue that I have. First off, without knowing the

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Speaker 1: intricacies of this, just looking at it on its face,

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Speaker 1: I do have a difficult time going and limiting couples

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Speaker 1: who were successful in life to recoup the money that

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Speaker 1: they should be given back that's been taken from them

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Speaker 1: throughout the years through their Social Security. I have a

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Speaker 1: better idea. Why don't we split the difference in all

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Speaker 1: of this. Okay, so calculate how much money everybody would

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Speaker 1: receive if they were retired at sixty seven, Give us

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Speaker 1: now all that money that we paid in, and then

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Speaker 1: stop taking all the money from our checks for Social

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Speaker 1: Security moving forward.

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Speaker 2: And let us decide how we want to go and

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Speaker 2: deal with it. I think that's a fantastic idea. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: and I love your show.

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Speaker 1: See Trump agrees. Say so, right now, you take what

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Speaker 1: money is there. You continue to pay those that are

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Speaker 1: already retired the amount of money that they have for

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Speaker 1: those of us that are heading towards retirement. You calculate

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Speaker 1: how much money we've already paid in for those that

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Speaker 1: are working. You give us that money, and then you

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Speaker 1: stop taking the Social Security from us, You end the

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Speaker 1: program altogether, and then we all can just get that

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Speaker 1: money back. And everybody now who gets a job gets

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Speaker 1: to keep that money, and they can all decide how

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Speaker 1: they want to go and save it moving forward. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a brilliant idea personal responsibility, more money on

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Speaker 1: your check. Look at me just solving problems this morning.

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Speaker 1: So I told Joe's going to wrap up on a

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Speaker 1: positive note. A little history lesson, by the way, the

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Speaker 1: Social Security program was started in nineteen thirty five as

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Speaker 1: a safety net for the nation's oldest and most vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: Roosevelt signed it in the law. When you work, some

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Speaker 1: of your taxes on Social Security. The government uses those

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Speaker 1: tax dollars to pay benefits to people have already retired,

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Speaker 1: people who are disabled, and the survivors of workers who

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Speaker 1: have died in dependence and beneficiaries be if its can

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Speaker 1: be claimed as early as age sixty two, but they

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Speaker 1: are reduced waiting for your full retirement age of sixty

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Speaker 1: seven provide you one hundred percent of your eligible benefit, although,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, if you're looking at that past the

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Speaker 1: year twenty thirty two, you might be completely out of luck.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, this is in regards to the paid family medical

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Speaker 5: leave and house Easily it is going to be taken

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Speaker 5: advantage of. I have an employee that is on it currently,

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Speaker 5: and I'm notified that an application has been filed and

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Speaker 5: I get to review it. And this employee said they

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Speaker 5: worked forty hours a week, when in truth they worked

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Speaker 5: twenty eight hours a week, and I have an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to say, no, this is not correct, but I never

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Speaker 5: get verified that it was changed. So it's highly doubtful

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Speaker 5: that anybody goes back and looks at it and changes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you know, highly doubtful is an understatement.

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Speaker 3: Oh, John Justin said six seven.

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Speaker 2: I did, but I've been told that's not cool anymore. No,

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Speaker 2: it's it's a little Yeah. My nieces were telling me

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Speaker 2: not to say it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now if you say it now, you don't you

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Speaker 1: sound like you don't know what you're what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: You can't say six to seven anymore. Nope, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: just want to clear that up.

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Speaker 4: They've been saying Social Security would run out of money

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Speaker 4: since at least nineteen eighty, if not before.

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Speaker 1: Well there's that too. It's like they want to keep

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Speaker 1: it hanging over your head for some reason. Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing how they can find billions and billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars to go and fight wars, but when it comes

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Speaker 1: to taking care of the American people, they can't find.

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Speaker 2: It, and we got to.

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Speaker 1: Keep paying and pain and not getting anything in return.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking exactly the same thing as I was

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Speaker 1: going and running through that particular story, and it's part

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Speaker 1: of the reason why I laid out my plant.

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Speaker 2: It's never gonna happen. My plant's never gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: The John Justice Saves Social Security plan is never going

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Speaker 1: to happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: Probably shouln't have I like the idea. Just give us

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Speaker 1: the money we put into it. Now I can decide

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Speaker 1: how I want to go and invest it and then

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Speaker 1: stop paying into it for everybody else and tell them, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're getting that extra money on your check. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to take it from you from the federal government anymore.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you go open up a savings account, and

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Speaker 1: through that whole process, I was thinking what he was thinking.

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Speaker 2: They pay for all kinds of other stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally in supportive bombing the daylights out of Iran,

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Speaker 1: but let's not kid ourselves. This is costing us a

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Speaker 1: lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for hanging out on the show today.

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Speaker 1: If you want to email me, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I want you to no Justice at iHeartRadio dot com,

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Speaker 1: Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. If you missed any portion

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Speaker 1: of the show today, be sure to check out the

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Speaker 1: podcast that's available, and we'll be shortly up on the

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Speaker 1: iHeart radio app. Sources say a state patrol vehicle assigned

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Speaker 1: to Governor Tim Walls was broken into a few days

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Speaker 1: ago well at a dog park in Mini Danapolis. Will

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Speaker 1: have that story and several others from Liz Collin from

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Speaker 1: ALFNOWS on tomorrow's show. Thank you so much for hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us today. I'll talk to you guys just

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Speaker 1: chapter six am.

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Speaker 2: Thanks everybody,