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We 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: were talking fraud last hour, the latest revelations from Jim 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: Nobles and again things that we were aware of, but 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: now we have more background on in terms of the 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: inner workings and why you know this fraud wasn't brought 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: to everybody's attention ahead of time. And I'll just I 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: want to repeat the point and then we'll move on 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: to another issue on this and if anybody else wants 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: to add anything to the commentary before we get on 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: to the next fraudulent story that we have. 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: Well, I just wanted to say, like for the listeners 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: I said a last segment, and I think it's important 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: for you to know Jim Nobles was a universally respected 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: legislative auditor. Truly in an era of partisanship politics, politics 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: influences everything, he was truly a guy down at the 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: capitol who just called balls and strikes, who gave you 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: the numbers, who gave you the information. 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: And let you do with it what you will. 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: So again, for him to write an op edge or 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: that is this targeted and this straightforward about whose fault 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: it is that the fraud has occurred, it should send 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: shockwaves frankly throughout the state. 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: And the part of it that really gets to me 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: they knew and they let it happen is. 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: Again, if that hadn't happened, if you had the venchair 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: of the House Human Services given the report by the 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: Office of Legislative Auditor, and instead of saying there's always 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: going to be fraud and taking it and not taking 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: it seriously, actually took it seriously. If there wasn't this 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: concern that you're going to upset, say the Somali community 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: and a base group of Democrat voters, you could to 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: stop this from the start and also probably figured out 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: that the majority of these programs weren't even necessary because 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: there wasn't a need, a demand and desire for it. 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: And and this gets into the other big concern. And 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: Max and I were talking about this off the air, 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: and we might get to it later on in the hour. 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: But of course the pending paid Family Sickly for which 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: paid family Medical Lead, which I don't think. Yeah, the 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: paid Family Medical League, which I don't think. It's obviously 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: getting attention, and there's concern, but it's a much much 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: bigger concern that I think even most people are realizing 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: that this at this point is. 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: Doing Adam Baum to our small businesses. 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: So's one question. Then we'll get to this next fraud 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: item of everybody. And I've asked this question before, but 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: since we have another example here, you know, Max, You've 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: mentioned several times Jim Nobles being a straight up guy. 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: I mean just yeah, so, you know, calls it as 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: he as he sees it. You have further coverage now 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: of fraud taking place. You have a jockeying of local 72 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: media outlets that are moving forward on their own fraud investigations. 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: He had Channel five had a forty five minute, you 74 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: know piece this week. And this all stems from, you know, 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: the reports that were an American experiment and all the 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: great reporting at Alpha News. And I'm convinced that none 77 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: of these documentaries would even be taking place if it 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: hadn't been for Liz Colin her book and the fall 79 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: of Minneapolis that none of them wanted to talk about, 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: but they all saw the attention that it got. Is 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: this going to have an impact on this on this 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: governor's race moving forward? And Grace, I'll start with you, 83 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: what do you think is this going to you think 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna hurt walls or do we have to kind 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: of wait to see you know, what the reaction is 86 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: to all this? 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 88 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 5: Are you kidding? 89 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 6: We just pulled this issue actually for the next issue 90 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 6: of Thinking Minnesota magazine, which comes out in just a 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 6: couple of weeks. Make sure you're on the list. Everyone, 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 6: But we pulled this issue and not only do like 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 6: a vast majority of Minnesotan's they're aware of the fraud, 94 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 6: they're angry about the fraud, but more than that, they 95 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 6: connect the fraud to Tim Walls's administration. I think he's 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 6: a fool if he thinks he can just breeze, pass through, 97 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 6: bree through this election without fraud hurting him. 98 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 99 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: I think on to that point, he is very cogn 100 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: and aware that people are attaching his administration. But there's 101 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: one little key, and you said the right word administration. 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: He is still at this point separating himself from his 103 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: administration where he's like, yeah, the buck doesn't stop with 104 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: me and stops somewhere down the line, and he will 105 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: throw every single person under the bus until he is 106 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: the last person standing. So it's incumbent upon Republicans to 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: make sure that we attach it not just to the administration, 108 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: but to Tim Walls himself, that the accountability has to 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: go up to him. And if you watch that interview 110 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: that KSTP did, he was like, yeah, we need to 111 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: throw the book at these fraudsters and we just there's 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: so much fraud and there's more fraud coming. Like he's 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: acting as though he hasn't been the governor since twenty eighteen. 114 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: But the question is will the average Minnesotan buy it? 115 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: Real quick? 116 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: Vic, you know, to that point, I'm kind of shocked 117 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: that Walls hasn't taken the stance of you know what, guys. 118 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: You know I would take responsibility, but I was running 119 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: for VP. 120 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: You know, I was trying to save this country. 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: As I was sauntering on stages across this great nation, 122 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: I just was completely unaware. 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: That part of it's on me. Everybody. I just wasn't around. Yeah, 124 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: my bad, guys, they are. I'm a knuckle when it 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: comes to fraud. Yeah, fraud is this grating issue. 126 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: I think Minnesotans have this high bar where they think 127 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: even if Tim Wall screws up, they're willing to give 128 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: him the benefit of the doubt. 129 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, he's trying his hardest. We're doing our best. 130 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: But I think fraud, because we are becoming the lightning 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 4: rod for it is becoming this embarrassing issue that I'm 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: hoping resonates with your average everyday voters. And I'll just 133 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: say I don't mean to step on his touchdown and 134 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: call here if he's going to be on next week. 135 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: But Elliott ain't get My colleague came out and said 136 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: he was running for state auditor. I think he's got 137 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: an interesting idea to take that state auditor role from 138 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 4: like a municipal accountant, actually having that office be the 139 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: one that's an independent body that finds fraud within departments 140 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: and catches it and punishes it early on. 141 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. 142 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: You know, if we have more candidates who come out 143 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: with ideas like that, kind of reimagining the role itself. 144 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: I'm looking for solutions, and Democrats are not willing to 145 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: sign on to an inspector general, for instance, but we 146 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: have to have an office that is independent of the 147 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: governor that tackles these issues. 148 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: My biggest concern, and I'll just put I'll put a 149 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: period on this on this conversation relating to the Jim 150 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: Nobles piece, My biggest concern is just that with the 151 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: continued talk about fraud and now that it is being discussed, 152 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: is that it ends up just becoming white noise. 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Yep. That's the problem that. 154 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: That's that's where where you kind of you go deeper 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: and deeper and deeper, and you get all of these 156 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: things substantiated, you know, and then it becomes the forest 157 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: for the trees issue, and hopefully, hopefully the candidates do 158 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: a good job of continueing to highlight, to keep it interesting, 159 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: to continue to make it relevant so it doesn't become 160 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: that that white noise. To that point, we'll bring you 161 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: the details next. I'm gonna keep on track this morning 162 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: in the final hour of the show. Jonathan Winehggens. I 163 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: always say his name one. Does it matter the guy's corrupt. 164 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't care. 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: So. 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: Jonathan Weinehgen, former CEO of the Minneapolis Regional Chamber of Commerce, 167 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: was criminally charged in a multi count federal indictment that 168 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: was unsealed Thursday. We'll bring you the details on what 169 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: this dude did. They are absolutely insane. You do not 170 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: want to miss it. It's coming up next on Twin 171 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: City's News Talk Freedom Friday, Twin City's News Talk from 172 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: the six five to one carpet Next Day Install Studios. 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Glad you're with the show this morning. 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Which inspired me think made 185 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: me the man that I am, not really just it's 186 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: a teacher's name that I remember back then, and he 187 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: was pretty cool. 188 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 6: So I briefly thought Blankenship was not his real name, 189 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 6: and you were like bleeping yourself. 190 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: Oh, like, do you like his name has a sad 191 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: word in it? Yeah, Yeah, you're fascinating. It's really funny. 192 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: It's really funny. You gotta he has a profanity in 193 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: the first part. That is amazing. 194 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: Grace Keating, American Experiment joins us in the studio. We 195 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: have a business. Ak Kamara, RNC Committeemen. 196 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. Representative Max Rymer, Hello and more fraud. 197 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: According to court documents, Jonathan Weinhagen Hagen whatever former CEO 198 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: of the Minneapolis Regional Chamber of Congress. Weinhagen set up 199 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: a fictional company called Synergy Partners that was owned by 200 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: James Sullivan, a fake persona made up by Weinhagen. In turn, 201 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Wyhagen allegedly used his position at the Minneapolis Chamber of 202 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: Commerce to enter into contracts with his fake company. 203 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: And I love it. 204 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: I'm working off the version here from Alpha News, and 205 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: Alpha News was quick to go and post photos of 206 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: Jonathan Weinhagen cozying up with Walta. 207 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: It just makes me laugh at all these individuals. 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: I know the connections here, they're dfllas that I get it, 209 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: but it's still is very amusing to see. 210 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Couldn't have happened to a worse person. Jonathan Weinhagen. 211 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: When I had an agency in Minneapolis, we were part 212 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: of the Minneapolis Chamber of Commerce, and during the heat 213 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: of the COVID lockdowns, we got a letter from Jonathan 214 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: Weinhagen and the Chamber of Commerce including a survey, and 215 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: basically the survey was geared towards having small businesses come 216 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: out and say that the lockdowns were a really good 217 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: thing for Minneapolis and the Minneapolis business community. 218 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 6: That is, like, that's just evil, that's just evil. 219 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: This guy sucks. 220 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 6: He also picks like the fakest sounding company they. 221 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: All do, my god, Broad Companies, Synergy, Synergy. 222 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: Oh and by the yeah s y and of course yeah, 223 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: Synergy Partners. So federal authorities say that Winehagen caused the 224 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: Chamber of Commerce to pay more than one hundred thousand 225 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: dollars to Synergy Partners pursuant to the sham contracts, borrowed 226 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: more than one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars from 227 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: a line of credit he opened in the Chambers name, 228 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: and transferred those funds. 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: To Synergy Partners. 230 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: Weinhagen reported use the funds for doing nothing with my 231 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: fingers personal expenses. Oh boy, court documents say that Weinhagen. 232 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep going back and forth. Winehagen and Hagen 233 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: tried to cover his tracks by sending fakey emails making 234 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: it appear that Synergy Partners no longer existed and that 235 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: James Sullivan, the persona that he had made up, had died. 236 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: The CEO even published a fake. 237 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: Obituary for James Sullivan on legacy dot Com, stating that 238 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Sullivan had died of pancreatic cancer. 239 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh he tried. I throw the book at this guy. 240 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: By the way, it. 241 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: Never ceases to amaze me that I see a story 242 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: like this and I go the amount of effort that 243 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: you expend, expended in order to commit this level of fraud. 244 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: If you had just taken that and applied it lawfully, 245 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: you probably could have made even more monchy we most 246 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: some lawns man just say the length of this guy 247 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: went true. 248 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: You know. 249 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: But here's the thing, because I hear that argument, and 250 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 3: I hear you, I feel you when you say it. Okay, 251 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: but doing all of this elaborate stuff, maybe it takes 252 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, let's say two weeks to come up 253 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: with all your elaborate schemes. The rest of the time, 254 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: you literally don't have to do anything because you're just 255 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: that's true, that's true, fraudulently scamming the system, and you. 256 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Have to be a scumbag in order to do this. 257 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: I got I got a private message from a friend 258 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: of the show, so I'm just going to leave it anonymous. 259 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: He says, ok I'm leaving out who the person is. 260 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: Winehagen was my neighbor in short view. His home bordered 261 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: my backyard, and I always felt there was something fishy 262 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: for a very left wing liberal. How does he function 263 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: as the CEO of the Chamber of Commerce? How does 264 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: a progressive encourage capitalism? Well, now we know the answer, 265 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: so to your point Max from earlier, just even neighbors 266 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: were like. 267 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: There's something kind of off about this, about this, I 268 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: think I just found mister saw Evan's obituary. Did you 269 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: really the good? 270 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: Now? Hey, if this is a real person, I totally 271 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: like absolved myself here. 272 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well hold on what get yourself familiar with it. 273 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: Let me go through a few more I got some points. Okay, 274 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: let me go through a few more details of the 275 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: story here. Additionally, court documents say that Weinhagen paid for 276 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: a Hawaiian vacation for himself and his family, as well 277 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: as other personal expenses, with a Chamber of Commerce credit card. 278 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: The multi count indictment also says the Minneapolis Regional Chamber 279 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: of Commerce sent thirty thousand dollars to a group called 280 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: Crime Stoppers in twenty twenty one to fund three separate 281 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars rewards for information leading to the arrest 282 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: and prosecution of those responsible for shootings that killed two 283 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: children and injured the third. However, those rewards were not 284 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: claimed after a year Federal authority say Weinhagen then devised 285 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: a scheme to obtain the thirty thousand dollars for himself 286 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: by requesting that Crime Stoppers returned the funds to the 287 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: Chamber of Commerce. The CEO reportedly instructed crime Stoppers to, again, 288 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: with my fingers, send the refund checks to his home address, 289 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: which he falsely represented to be the Chamber of Commerce's 290 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: new address. 291 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this. 292 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: Guy was ponned or is pond scum, and he's got 293 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: a family, and family's. 294 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: Not aware of this while at all. So you found 295 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the obituary, I'm pretty sure. 296 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I did, And apologies if there's a 297 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: real James Sullivan who died April twenty first, twenty twenty four, 298 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: out there, But this kind of reads vague enough that 299 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: I think this is this is the one. James Sullivan, 300 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: sixty two of Saint Paul, Minnesota, passed away peacefully surrounded 301 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: by family on March twenty eighth twenty twenty four, after 302 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: a battle of pancreatic cancer. He was a family man 303 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: who balanced a successful consulting career. Jim was charismatic, hardworking, 304 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: and always put outthers first. 305 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: He survived by his wife. 306 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: Susan, son Bill, daughter in law Julie Sullivan, and grandson Brayden, 307 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: and granddaughter Simone. 308 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Jim was preceded in death by his. 309 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: Parents, Albert and Tracy Sullivan, and his brother Tim Sullivan. 310 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: Here's where I'm like, okay again, the whole fanpologies to 311 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: the Sullivan family if this is real. Jim attended the 312 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: University of Minnesota and had a career in political consulting, 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: including serving as the North Dakota field organizer for the 314 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: Ducacis for President campaign in nineteen eighty eight, where he 315 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: cut his teeth and never looked back. In his free time, 316 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: he enjoyed pheasant hunting and was a lifelong rotarian. A 317 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: private internment was held earlier this month with close friends 318 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: and family. 319 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: That's okay, that's pretty fascinating that you went all that deep. 320 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy started a file began it does 321 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: It's vague enough, though. Political consulting Docacus for president in 322 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: North Dakota. 323 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: YEA who would look into that. 324 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: We're going to find out that Weinhagen, when he made 325 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: this fake persona of James Sullivan, actually had like a 326 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 2: twenty three in meter account even legitimize it even further. 327 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: There's more here, by the way, the multiple count indictment 328 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: further alleges than Weinehgen lied about his income and work 329 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: status when attempting to obtain a fifty four six d 330 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: and sixty one dollars bank loan. His application for the 331 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: bank loan was ultimately denied. He's facing five federal charges, 332 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: two counts of wire fraud, one count of mail fraud, 333 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: one kund of attempted bank fraud, and one count of 334 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: false of false statement in a loan application. 335 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: How do you I, I how do you live? Like? 336 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: How do you live your life just in peace when 337 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: you are conducting this much illegal activity that. 338 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: Is like psychopathic? 339 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he's certifiable. He's absolutely certifiable. Like he needs 340 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: a team, like not one doctor, he needs like a 341 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: team around him just to analyze him. 342 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: So here's what I'll say to that is that I 343 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: do agree that to average people whose brains work well, 344 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: it's like this guy's psychopath. But there's a lot of 345 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: people that they do not care at all about taking 346 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: advantage of other people stealing their money because they justify 347 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: it because they themselves are so singularly focused on what 348 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: is good for them. 349 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: We call it. 350 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: Narcissist personality to sort or whatever it might be, like, 351 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: they just none of that matters. All of that is outside, 352 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: you know, noise, whoever gets hurt. It's just they're so 353 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 3: singularly focused. And that actually is very emblematical of a 354 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: lot of Democrats in this country. 355 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: And Minnesota allows for it to keep that in mind. 356 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: Right. The reason that this guy, the CEO of the 357 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 4: Minneapolis Chamber of Commerce, thought he could get away with 358 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: it was because Minnesota gives you a pathway to commit 359 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: this type of fraud. 360 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: He was so emboldened that he thought he could get 361 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: away with it because of the system that we have. 362 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: From twenty one to twenty three, Winehogen donated six and 363 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: to the re election efforts of Governor Tim Walls. Campaign 364 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: finance database Base also reports that Weinhagen made made a 365 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars campaign donation over the past a decade. 366 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: Nine thousand of that went to Democratic candidates and causes, so. 367 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: You got to grease them. 368 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: Wheels Baby Talk Back of the Day coming up, brought 369 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: to you by Many Leaf here on Twin Cities News 370 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 371 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm ready to get beat. If you're a smart speaker. 372 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 7: Well, I think I have a new job for mister Wenhagen. 373 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 7: He could be breaking rocks that could go into the 374 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 7: foundation of the ooh, the new ball and that I 375 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 7: kind of whispered into the ear of Donald Trump maining 376 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 7: many years ago. Oh, breaking rocks sounds like fun. I 377 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 7: wish him the best. Ooh, okay, mommy bye. 378 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: I have no idea what he was going for there. 379 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: I really wish I understood the framing. Is it from 380 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: a movie? 381 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Have no idea. I'm gonna talk it up to Halloween. 382 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm just say it's something Halloween related. I don't Jeff Goldblum, 383 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: maybe I don't know. 384 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say actor or politician. 385 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: I mean again, it has to be a bit that's 386 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: like from something that's pop. 387 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: Culture, that's gracious, looks confused. That was a really custom pointing. Guys, 388 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: I think you're reading a little bit too much into this. 389 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: You know, this guy sounds like just a good old 390 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: fashioned criminal. 391 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: This is just a bezzelement like they've been doing forever. Okay, 392 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: let me. 393 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop here because because he goes on to 394 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: talk about compared to the fraud that's happening, but that 395 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: and I get that, but there's a correlation here, and 396 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just gonna put a pin in it. 397 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: Twin City's News Talk final segment of the show for 398 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: a Freedom Friday from the six five one Carpet Next 399 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: Day Install Studios. We didn't need to get to your 400 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: talk back of the day. 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Yeah, it's a great point. 411 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: I was going to do a rimshot on that, but 412 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: it's actually incredibly accurate, so I figured I'd just let 413 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: it sit there. That is your talk back of the day. 414 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: Your talk Back of the Day is brought to you 415 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: by Mini Leaf minileaf dot com. The Nightgummies have been 416 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: a game changer for me. Head on over to the 417 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: website m I N N E L e a f 418 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: dot com and get yourself some Nightgummies from Many Leaf. 419 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: Free shipping is available at the at the website. Listen embezzlement, crime, fraud, 420 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: none of it's new. However, you just you take it 421 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: in total, especially here in Minnesota, and you can't I 422 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: can't help but wonder when it comes to like this winegarden, 423 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: you know that the winehogging guy, like what else was 424 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: he aware of that was also taking place within you know, 425 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: the state of Minnesota. The other fraud that is occurring 426 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: under Democrat watch. Seeing other people do it that emboldens 427 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: you to do so. I mean, we just we we live, 428 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: and we're coming out of an era of four years 429 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: of a lack of accountability on numerous levels. I mean, 430 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 2: I'm staring at the NBA scandal erupting, FEDSNAB player coaching, 431 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: illegal gambling crackdown, and you look at this particular story 432 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: and what transpired here, you know, emblematic of the larger 433 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: issue that we're talking about and yeah, you can put 434 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: all of these under the same under the same umbrella. 435 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what an insane story. 436 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: And to your point with the with Jonathan Weinhagen, how 437 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 4: else was he coaching other people to do what he 438 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: was doing because people all talk to each other, These 439 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: people all know the system and how to game it. 440 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: When I when I think about how in any one 441 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: of these cases be a daycare, mental health facilities, these 442 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: people are being coached on how to do this, and 443 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: Weinhagen was in a position of power where it does 444 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: make me think, who are you coaching to do exactly 445 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 4: what you tried to do. 446 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: But by the way, guys, we all, we all missed this. 447 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: I just want to hey, that talkback was Ronald Reagan impression. 448 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty obvious. Obviously it wasn't all 449 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: obvious to all of us because. 450 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: Listen, man, I was born nineteen eighty four, and you know, 451 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: the only I guess the perception that I have of 452 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan are from like his greatest speeches is that 453 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 3: from like a movie? 454 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: Like is that what it is? 455 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: I think you just in generally was trying to do 456 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: Reagan any think that I would have keen in on 457 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: that and you would have Max. Since we did the 458 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: Reagan dinner last Saturday night, I thought, I just work 459 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: on it. 460 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, work, just work on it. Workshot that one get 461 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: in front of the mirror. 462 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: Practice Thursday morning, just two days after the NBA games, 463 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: tipped off an NBA player and a head coach, where 464 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: among thirty people arrested as part of the FBI investigation 465 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: into fraud and illegal gambling that involved the Mafia. You 466 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: had Miami heat point card Terry Rogier right, rested at 467 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: hotel in Orlando hours after his team lost to the 468 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: Magic ESPN reported. Shortly after Rose years, Rosier's arrest was reported, 469 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: ABC News broke the story to the Portland Trailblazers head 470 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: coach and Chauncey Billups had been taken into custody and 471 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: charged in an illegal poker operation tied to organized crime. 472 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: So the poker part of it, you have these mob 473 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: organizations that were conducting these poker games wherein they were 474 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: monitoring all of the games that were taking place. They 475 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: were using high tech contact contact lenses, cameras, microphones. They 476 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: had a table that was an X ray machine essentially 477 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: to where they could scan the cards that were faced 478 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: down on the tables so they could see what they 479 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: were We're talking millions of dollars they were taking from 480 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: these gamblers, and when the gamblers went and brought it 481 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: to their attention and didn't want to pay, they basically 482 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: used mob tactics of fear, intimidation and violence to keep 483 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: them from going. 484 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: To the FEDS. And then you'll get to the NBA 485 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: part of it. 486 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: And this is all based off of the online gambling 487 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: and the prop bets, wherein one of the players went 488 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: out with an injury early but had let other individuals 489 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: know what was going to happen. They put a bunch 490 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: of money down on the prop bet based off of 491 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: his statistics. 492 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: For the game. 493 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: It ended up reaping the tens of thousands, if not 494 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars in gambling money. This story 495 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 2: is absolutely insane. 496 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so listen, I try I put this out there 497 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: on x and you can follow me at really a K. 498 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: Kamara and I just kind of made this point that 499 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: there was a lot of people on the right that 500 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: do have moral, if you want to say, withholdings when 501 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: it comes to allowing gambling and other degenerate behavior to 502 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: be legalized, and we were poo pooed and said like, 503 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 3: you're just parol clutching when we were talking like this 504 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: legalization of gambling happening all across America, And I just I. 505 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Just want to point this out. 506 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: It's not that I think that we should make it 507 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 3: illegal or whatever it might be. It's that understand that 508 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: there are always going to be consequences. And one of 509 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 3: the things with degenerate behavior is organized crime is heavily 510 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: involved in all forms of degenerate behavior, and so it's 511 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: not surprising to me that this has happened. I bet 512 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: if everywhere you look, every degenerate operation that is legalized 513 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: in America, if you look, you will find criminal elements. 514 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: And that's the truth. 515 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: And I'm just telling people, once you actually start to 516 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: peel back, you know the layers of the legal pot 517 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 3: operations going around. And we got a glimmer of that 518 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: in California when Ice rated and they found child slaves 519 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: working the pot fields. 520 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just a part. 521 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: So I just that's my my analysis is like, of 522 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: course organized crime is involved in sports gambling because they 523 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: always have been, they always will be. 524 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: This is why those are the things that we have 525 00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: to be aware. 526 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 6: All I can say is I can't wait for the 527 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 6: movie version to come out. 528 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: If Hollywood messes this up, we gotta we gotta fix that. 529 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: The poker story is pretty wild. 530 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm writing X ray machines and tinted glasses to 531 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: figure out what marked cards are movie. Whoa, they really 532 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 4: put some And by the way, we mentioned it earlier, 533 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 4: like the Gambino family is still something that exists. 534 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, when they started naming off the different mafias, I 535 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: was just sitting about, going, these are you to what 536 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: you were saying? I was like, these are still around? 537 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: We still have these groups in case over there, going 538 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: what's going on with you guys? 539 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: Yea, yes, in on it. Yes, they're everywhere. I mean everywhere. 540 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: Listen between the between the Louver heist this week, right, Taylor. 541 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: You know I can't wait this. The script is. 542 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: Already being being written immediately. Molly's game pops to Mine. 543 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 2: I've got that on Blu Ray. Fantastic film. If you've 544 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: never seen it before, you. 545 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: Never heard of a poker movie. Poker movie as well, 546 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: I have seen that. That's a great movie. Fantastic movie. Yeah, 547 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: true story. 548 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: I was out at poker I just I'm not interested 549 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: in anything involved with cards. 550 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: I used to play poker with Drew God Rest his soul, 551 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: probably like every other weekend. 552 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: Never I never did, only because I only know how 553 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: to do MAUI and go fish, so never have I 554 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 2: know I'm solitaire, I know how to play twenty one, 555 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: and I know how to play spades. 556 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: So I like, how. 557 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: Ak is like acting like this is like some degenerate 558 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: thing that people engage in. And never played poker while 559 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: sipping his massive alcohol drink at fourteen years old in 560 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: North Dakota. 561 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, you know we like listen, I fully. 562 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: Embrace my degeneracy, but I don't also endorse it either. 563 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: We slammed alcohol, but we never touched cards. 564 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: There's a line a Virginia couple has gone to court 565 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: to try to blok President Donald Trump from proceeding with 566 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: the demolition of the White House's East wing to make 567 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: way for a new ballroom. 568 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: Well that's too late. He's leveled it, so he's too late. 569 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know if you guys know, this has 570 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: been a bit of a controversy on. 571 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: The Left House of late. 572 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: By the way, this couple, as I was reading this story, 573 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: is this just two random people in Virginia. 574 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and even in the listen the filing, which was 575 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: not accompanied by a formal complaint that typically initiates a 576 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: lawsuit and was mislabeled, and the Courts online docketing system 577 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: appears to be the first legal action over Trump's ballroom project, 578 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: although it appears as if they didn't do even the 579 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: proper legwork to make this viable. Their names very apropos 580 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: for Halloween. Charles and Judith Vorhees. You're lying, I'm not 581 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: even kidding. 582 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: You know, you know this is this is some sixty 583 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: seven year old. This is some sixty seven year old 584 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 4: northern Virginia. 585 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: On a resistance couple. Mild this lawsuit. 586 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump had did have a comment yesterday about 587 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: about the ballroom and the renovations at the White House. 588 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 9: And I usually like to steer it to the White 589 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 9: House because this house was a little bit abandoned. First 590 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 9: of all, for four years you had a guy walking 591 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 9: around that didn't know where the hell he was, and 592 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 9: this house was not taken care of the way it 593 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 9: was supposed to be. I take very good care of property. 594 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 9: I was very good at that. And you'll notice the 595 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 9: floors downstairs. I paid for them marble, the most beautiful 596 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 9: marble you've ever seen. The white floors down in the 597 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 9: Palmer Room, which where they look like they came out 598 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 9: of I don't want to lose because they're big supporters 599 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 9: of my Home Depot, so I'm. 600 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Not going to say bad. But they did come out. 601 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 9: Of a box from Home Depot about thirty years ago. 602 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 9: They were all broken, but now they have the most 603 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 9: beautiful floors, the most beautiful lights and chandeliers. I think 604 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 9: most of you, Brian, you've seen that, right, How beautiful 605 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 9: is that? 606 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: And I take care of it. 607 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 9: So I spend millions of dollars on this building taking 608 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 9: care of it. It was not properly maintained. And now 609 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 9: it's starting to gleam like it should. It should really gleam. 610 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 9: And you should go down and visit the Presidential Walk 611 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 9: of Fame. 612 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: Have you seen it. It's quite quite good. 613 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 9: I'm sure that a lot of people come into the 614 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 9: White House. It's hot, it's very hot, but it's really 615 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 9: a tribute to the president's past presidents. 616 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: Y yeah, please, there's nobody else like him. He's the best. 617 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 9: You know. 618 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Here's here's what I absolutely this is. 619 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: What I love about it is that Trump understands that 620 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: in this term he's going to do so many things 621 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: that you will be unable to erase him from the 622 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: history books, which I think would have been impossible. But now, 623 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: this is the real reason why Democrats are so upset, 624 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: is that for for the rest of human history, now 625 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: when we talk about the White House, the People's House, 626 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: this seem to be like President Trump put it in 627 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: this amazing ballroom, right like. And that's why the left 628 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: is so apoplectic about it, because now Trump is perfectly 629 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: to our our one of our I would say, our 630 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: greatest monuments to our country, which is you know that 631 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: we have a democratically elected president that has term limits 632 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: and all these different things. 633 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: And guess what, because of that permanent mark in the future, 634 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 4: both Democrat and Republican presidents are going. 635 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: To utilize that space and love it. 636 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 4: I'll never maybe they'll never publicly admit they love it, sure, 637 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: but they will. 638 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: Well, no, they won't because all all signs point to 639 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: Donald Trump having no intention of ever. 640 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: Leaving the White House. Oh, co. 641 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna go We're gonna go out on this one here. 642 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: I've been holding on to it all morning longns is 643 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: from the Mere UK. Mikey Smith is his name. All 644 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: the signs that Donald Trump has no intention of ever 645 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: leaving the White House, Right, Let's I figure we can 646 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: go through these. Donald Trump has no intention, he writes, 647 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: of ever leaving the White House, not without a scrap. 648 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: At least, that seems like a weird thing to suggest, 649 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: but there is now so much evidence pointing to him 650 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: trying to cling to power beyond the end of his 651 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: legal presidential term that it is impossible to pretend it's 652 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: not happening. 653 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: You're ready, I'm ready coming in. 654 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: At number one, he keeps telling people who's gonna run 655 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: At twenty twenty eight, He's repeatedly floated the idea of 656 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: rewriting or bypassing constitutional rules that prevent him from serving 657 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: beyond two terms. Number two, he flooded the idea of 658 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: using a war to cancel the twenty twenty eight election 659 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: so he could stay in power. He talked about a 660 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: visit during during August with Zelensky, he indicated he likes 661 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: the idea of using war to cancel the next election, 662 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: allowing him to stay in power beyond his term limit. 663 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: Nice this GE's completely serious. 664 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: In all of this, by the way, right, he doesn't 665 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: see any of the context relating to the commentary that 666 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: was saying and the humor that Trump uses. 667 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: Yes, and in both of those one and two, Trump 668 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: is one percent making fun of Zelensky because Zelenski canceled 669 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: elections sustain in Bower, and also making fun of the 670 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: fact that he knows he can't run twenty eight But 671 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, we're looking into it. 672 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, we're looking into it again. 673 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: These are all the signs that Trump has no intention 674 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: of ever leaving the White House. He continues to undermine 675 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: faith in US elections. Of course, do I have any 676 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: need to give the examples? Probably not. Number four, he's 677 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: trying to get the Justice Department to pay him damages. 678 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: It emerged that Trump wants the Justice Department to pay 679 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: him two hundred and thirty million dollars for damages of 680 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: malicious prosecutions and investigations. Let's bear in mind that, far 681 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: from a hoax, the investigation into Trump's links with Russia 682 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: did not exonerate him. 683 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: The article, right, oh my goodness, all right, Well. 684 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: The Mole report found Russia had interfered in the twenty 685 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: sixteen election but that there was not sufficient evidence of 686 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: conspiracy or coordination to prosecute that charge in court. 687 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: I just want to add, this is the mirror UK. 688 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: This is a guy overseas. Is this worried? Thank you 689 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: for your opinion. Maybe he's an ex pat. Maybe he's 690 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: an ex pat. 691 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: He tried to cling to He tried his best to 692 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: cling to power the last time around. Of course, after 693 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: losing the twenty twenty election to Biden, Trumped tried to 694 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: have possible avenue to cling to power. Yeah, he left, 695 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: He got up, and he moved out, and he partoned 696 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: almost everyone who took part in the coup that transpired 697 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: the coop. 698 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: Huh yes, Oh wait, there's more. He's remodeling the White 699 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: House to be. 700 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: More like mar A Lago, in a project that will 701 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 2: take much longer than his current term. 702 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: So apparently about that excuse is going. 703 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: To be that because the project, which will clearly not 704 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: be finished before he's supposed to leave in office in 705 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. He's already paved over the rose Garden patio, 706 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: installed umbrellas identical to those on the terrace at mar 707 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: A Lago, and installed identical flagpoles to those that is 708 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: Florida resort. Now he's bulldozing the east wing of the 709 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: White House to replace it with the ballroom mirroring the 710 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: one he has at mar A Lago. See he's just 711 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: recreating mar A Lago at the. 712 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: White Yeah, he's never leaving, man, he's building a ballroom. 713 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: Only fascists do that. 714 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: My favorite one was the one where they showed they 715 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: showed a Russian ballroom. 716 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: Yes, Midas touch, which is a bunch of like ron 717 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: flip how you say Islawski Philipowski, Like. 718 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: It's just Trump derangement syndrome. 719 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 3: And they were dead serious when they showed Vladimir Putin's 720 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: like ballroom somewhere and Trump's and they're like, do you 721 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 3: need anymore? It's like, yes, people love ballrooms that are classic. 722 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: Like Trump is a classy guy. He's always loved like 723 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 3: the finer things of work. I mean, it's the whole 724 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 3: like golden toilet thing. And he takes so much pride 725 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 3: in architect and being able to leave his actual fingerprints 726 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 3: on the White House is probably like his lifelong dream. 727 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: And that's why he's so kiddy. He sounds like a 728 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: little kid when he talks about this stuff. And I 729 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: rolled my eyes because I don't care about any of it. 730 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: Right. 731 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: The last two reasons here, people fear that he's planning 732 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: on using the military to intimidate people voting in the 733 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 2: mid terms and beyond. 734 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: So people care it of Trump and they. 735 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 3: Are saying that over and over again. The Democrats to 736 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: cancel the elections. 737 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 2: Yes, And then the last one of all the reasons 738 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 2: why Trump is not going to leave the White House, 739 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: he's redrawing electoral maps to favor Republican candidates because Democrats 740 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: have never done that. He is right though, I mean, 741 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: the Republican controlled North Carolina House approved the new congressional 742 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: so the new map past by the state House along 743 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: party lines. The current North Carolina House delegation was made 744 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: up of ten Republicans four Democrats, and the new one 745 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: is projected to shift to eleven Republicans and three Democrats. 746 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: So take them up another victory. 747 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: Grace Keating American Experiment podcast every Tuesday, Center of the 748 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: American Experiment. 749 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in this morning, Thanks for having me. 750 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 2: Good to be here, business owner, RNC committeemen, an online 751 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: rabble rouser Ak Kamara. 752 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 3: Indeed, and I will be up at the Aiken County 753 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: GOP galas I'll see y'all on Saturday. Ticket sales already done, 754 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 3: so sorry if you didn't get your tickets. 755 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: Representative Max Reimer, thank you has come for coming in 756 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: once again. 757 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: Big plans this weekend. Definitely a nap involved in those plans. 758 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: Down with you about that. 759 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Langer will be joining me as we cover the 760 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 2: latest in the shutdown news. He'll be on six thirty 761 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: on Monday morning, and Elli and Ingen representative now running 762 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 2: for state auditor. The candidate will be in studio at 763 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: seven thirty. 764 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sam. Everybody have yourself a great weekend. Bah