WEBVTT - The Christa Pike Execution Bleep Up

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Cooner country. Okay, my friends, honestly, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know whether to laugh or to cry, so I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>laugh than cry. But in a sense, it's really not

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<v Speaker 1>a laughing matter. But on the other hand, it was

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<v Speaker 1>such a botched execution that And with so many pathetic

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<v Speaker 1>errors along the way, you almost can't help but laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at the incompetence. So, as most of you probably know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is, forget national, this is an international story. Krista

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<v Speaker 1>Pike was scheduled Wednesday night in Nashville, Tennessee, to be

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<v Speaker 1>executed by lethal injection. And one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>this was such a high-profile case was she was scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>to be the first woman, the first female, to be

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<v Speaker 1>executed in the history of Texas, what is it, over

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<v Speaker 1>200 years. So over 200 years ago was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time that a woman or female in Texas had been executed.

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<v Speaker 1>Already in the lead-up to Wednesday night's botched execution, Krista

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<v Speaker 1>Pike demanded that she be given first an all-female firing squad,

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<v Speaker 1>which was denied. Then she demanded an all-female lethal injection squad,

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<v Speaker 1>which for the most part was denied. They did have

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<v Speaker 1>females on the squad. on the execution squad, but some

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<v Speaker 1>of the key doctors were male. So it wasn't all female. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>she's scheduled now to be executed. She has now become

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<v Speaker 1>a cause celebre among the left. Democrats, anti-capital punishment, activists, liberals,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it, really along the entire liberal left spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>they believe that she should not be executed. And A,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's a woman, and B, they don't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty to begin with, and they believe that

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<v Speaker 1>this is unjust and that what Tennessee was doing was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at the last possible moment, anti-capital punishment activists...

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<v Speaker 1>went to a liberal Democrat judge and got a stay

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<v Speaker 1>of execution. The governor then stepped in, but that wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Court then stepped in and lifted the stay

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<v Speaker 1>and said, go ahead. She was convicted of murder. She

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to be executed. This was in 1996. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my first point. It takes 30 years to

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<v Speaker 1>execute someone? This is ridiculous. She was convicted of a

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<v Speaker 1>murder in 1995. She was sentenced in 1996 to be executed.

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<v Speaker 1>And only 30 years later, they're strapping her into a gurney?

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<v Speaker 1>to administer needles and this lethal injection dose. Anyway, let

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<v Speaker 1>that go. 30 years later, and apparently according to the

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses that were there, including reporters, Krista Pike was laying

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<v Speaker 1>on the gurney for an hour. She, in fact, was

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<v Speaker 1>telling them Why don't you try in, you know, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you try pricking me here? Why don't you try

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<v Speaker 1>administering the needle here? Try the upper right shoulder. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe there's a good vein there. So they were struggling

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour to find a proper vein. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons was she has a medical condition in

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<v Speaker 1>which her veins are very small and very hard to detect.

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<v Speaker 1>And so before the execution, she said, look, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have a hard time finding a vein.

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<v Speaker 1>And this may end up becoming torturous. So I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>you just off me with a firing squad. She and

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<v Speaker 1>her lawyers initially said, give us the firing squad. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>do the lethal injection. But in Tennessee, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the firing squad. They don't even have the electric chair.

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<v Speaker 1>So they only do this lethal injection because they believe

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<v Speaker 1>it is the most humane, dignified way to execute someone

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<v Speaker 1>with as little pain and cruelty as possible. So it

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<v Speaker 1>went on 15 minutes, half an hour, 45 minutes. They're

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<v Speaker 1>sticking needles here. They're sticking needles there. According to witnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled out one needle. The needle was bent. She,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, began to complain that some parts of her

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<v Speaker 1>arm were burning, saying, is it supposed to burn like this?

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<v Speaker 1>They put in one lethal injection dose. It did not

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<v Speaker 1>kill her. They then put in a second lethal injection dose.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not kill her. In fact, she was still

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<v Speaker 1>alive after both lethal injection doses. However, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>she fell into a coma, the way they're describing it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they said she was snoring loudly. They knew now they

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<v Speaker 1>had a crisis on their hands. They had injected her twice.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not kill her. She is now unconscious and snoring,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's not dead. What do you do? Tennessee law

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<v Speaker 1>says you can't give more than two lethal injections. Her

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers on the spot filed a motion immediately to have

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<v Speaker 1>an ambulance come and send her to the hospital. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened. So she was taken off site, sent

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<v Speaker 1>to a hospital apparently in Nashville, where as I speak

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<v Speaker 1>to you now, if you can believe this, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can believe it, she is now apparently in a coma.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe she has suffered brain damage and they are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to resuscitate and revive her and give her life-saving

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<v Speaker 1>medical care. So they tried to kill her. Now they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to save her. You want to talk about a,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forgive me, a crap show from beginning to end,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. The governor, Bill Lee, has now come

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<v Speaker 1>out And he has canceled the only remaining scheduled execution

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<v Speaker 1>on the books for this year. And he says now

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<v Speaker 1>there must be a complete, thorough, comprehensive third-party review. What occurred?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? What the hell went wrong here? How could

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<v Speaker 1>this have happened? Now, you need to know this. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a male inmate in May. who was convicted of

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapping and murdering three people. Not one, three. And apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be executed. And the Keystone, I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say Keystone cops, but the Keystone execution squad,

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, this was just, well, what is it,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five months ago, they couldn't find the proper

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<v Speaker 1>way to administer the IVs. You can't make this up

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver the lethal injection. They struggled and struggled and struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even stick a needle in the guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was botched. So it is now the second botched

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<v Speaker 1>injection in Tennessee this year. Now, what is making this

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<v Speaker 1>case such a huge case is that Krista Pike, is

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<v Speaker 1>now the first person to have survived one of these

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<v Speaker 1>lethal injection doses. Usually it tends to work. It tends

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<v Speaker 1>to kill you. It didn't this time. And the question

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<v Speaker 1>is why? And the question is, where do we go

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<v Speaker 1>from here? Because her lawyers now are saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>amounts to cruel and unusual punishment. that she apparently was

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<v Speaker 1>in solitary confinement for 20 years before the execution. And

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<v Speaker 1>now she had this botched execution, which they say caused

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous pain and torture on her. And so now her

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<v Speaker 1>sentence should be commuted. In other words, no more executions, period.

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<v Speaker 1>Let her just serve out her sentence life in prison

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<v Speaker 1>and never try to execute this woman again. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to listen now. In fact, I'm going to play

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<v Speaker 1>the cut on the other side because President Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>already weighed in on this. Everybody's weighing in on this. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>let me put it to you as frankly and bluntly

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly as I can. I look at this and

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<v Speaker 1>I say to myself, how far have we fallen that

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<v Speaker 1>we can't even execute brutal convicted murderers anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen now to President Trump asked about the botched execution

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee. He was standing beside Congressman Ronny Jackson from Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>who in fact is a doctor, is a medical doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>and was Trump's physician, White House physician, during Trump's first term.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're both absolutely dumbfounded at what happened. Roll cut one, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>The Press Well, that was an interesting situation. But you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to have to speak to Tennessee about it, whether

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<v Speaker 4>or not they're going to go forward. You know what

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<v Speaker 4>that was about. That was an execution where the medication

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<v Speaker 4>didn't exactly work.

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<v Speaker 3>He would answer it.

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<v Speaker 4>Better than anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>How does that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>He's a great doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be easy to do. It shouldn't be very difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sorry, the audio is not the best

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<v Speaker 1>because they're asking him questions outside. But, you know, are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be looking for any change in capital punishment?

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<v Speaker 1>The left and anti-capital punishment advocates are pouncing on what

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<v Speaker 1>happened now in Tennessee, saying, you see, you see, capital

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<v Speaker 1>punishment is inherently barbaric. It's cruel. It's a form of torture.

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<v Speaker 1>It's inhumane. And it should be banned. We should not

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<v Speaker 1>allow capital punishment in the United States of America. And

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<v Speaker 1>they believe this is Exhibit A. Trump is looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Ronny Jackson. Ronny Jackson is looking at Trump. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, you just stick the needle in and,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the dose does itself. What the hell happened?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. Now, it seems to me, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course you may disagree with me, and I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>invite calls, 617-266-7000.

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<v Speaker 3>68-68.

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<v Speaker 1>Either this is sheer incompetence, as they failed in May

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<v Speaker 1>with a male inmate. So, you know, it's two in

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<v Speaker 1>a row now that they've botched. Or someone is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sabotage these injections. Because I guess they're against capital

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<v Speaker 1>punishment or they don't want it to work or they

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<v Speaker 1>have a political agenda. I don't know. But either this

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<v Speaker 1>is sabotage or this is a gross incompetence, honestly, on

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<v Speaker 1>a scale that just, it blows the mind. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want all of you to stand back for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Why were the people of Tennessee so determined to go

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<v Speaker 1>through with the death penalty regarding Krista Pike? Krista Pike

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<v Speaker 1>when she was 18 years old, had a 17-year-old boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>One of her classmates, also, I believe, 18, Colleen Slemmer.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Krista Pike, Pike was convinced that Colleen Slemmer

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<v Speaker 1>had an interest in her 17-year-old boyfriend, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>was jealous. And so she and her boyfriend and another accomplice,

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<v Speaker 1>a 19-year-old girl, whatever, young woman, lured Colleen Slemmer to

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Tennessee, but the Knoxville campus. And there,

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<v Speaker 1>they dragged her to the ground and they performed, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>A satanic ritual killing. They marked a pentagram on her chest.

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<v Speaker 1>They made some satanic incantations or prayers to Lucifer. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they began to brutally beat her. It's a morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get too much into the details,

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<v Speaker 1>but suffice it to say they used a meat cleaver.

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<v Speaker 1>Krista Pike eventually used a chunk of asphalt, smashed her

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<v Speaker 1>skull to pieces. And to show you how barbaric this

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<v Speaker 1>woman is, she then took a piece of the skull,

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<v Speaker 1>the broken skull of Colleen Slammer, forgive me, Colleen Slammer's

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<v Speaker 1>skull and kept it as a memento and as a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a sign to her devotion to Satan. The

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<v Speaker 1>17-year-old was convicted of murder, but because he was considered

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<v Speaker 1>a juvenile, life in prison, no death penalty. The other

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<v Speaker 1>accomplice got probation because she testified against both Krista Pike

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<v Speaker 1>and her boyfriend. Krista Pike, though, was an adult, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was found guilty of murder, and she's guilty of sin,

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<v Speaker 1>and sentenced to death. When she's an inmate in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>she tried to murder an inmate by using a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of shoelaces and attempting to strangle that inmate, and she

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<v Speaker 1>came very close to murdering that inmate. She was convicted

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<v Speaker 1>of that, and then another 25 years was tacked on

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<v Speaker 1>to her sentence. By the way, that's what the lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell you, her lawyers, why she was in solitary confinement.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in solitary confinement because if she wasn't put behind,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in solitary, she kept trying to murder everybody

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<v Speaker 1>around her. So she's a devil worshiper. She's a murderer.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a torturer, and she's an attempted murderer. Now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me be brutally honest with you. If anybody deserves the

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<v Speaker 1>death penalty, it's Krista Pike. Now, what I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>is that what's wrong with Death by Firing Squad? 617-266-6868

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<v Speaker 1>is the number.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask all of you a couple of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, what do you make just simply of the

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<v Speaker 1>botched execution of Krista Pike? Do you think there is

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of sabotage that's going on? Or are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about colossal incompetence? And should people get fired? That's,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, the obvious question. Now, the second question, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to seem insensitive, but I just have

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<v Speaker 1>to call it the way I see it. Here is

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer, a torturer, a Satanist, who also attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>murder someone else in prison, clearly a very evil, demonic woman,

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<v Speaker 1>who was found to be guilty, was sentenced to be executed,

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<v Speaker 1>What I don't get is, and I understand it's the

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<v Speaker 1>protocols of Tennessee and they're following the protocols of Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't allow a firing squad. They don't allow the

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<v Speaker 1>electric chair. They don't allow hanging. You can only do

0:18:46.060 --> 0:18:50.119
<v Speaker 1>two lethal injections after that. It's considered cruel and unusual punishment.

0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.270
<v Speaker 1>And you have to stop. And that's where the ambulance

0:18:53.330 --> 0:18:55.850
<v Speaker 1>came and they took her to the hospital. And now

0:18:55.869 --> 0:18:58.869
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to revive this person who was scheduled to

0:18:58.910 --> 0:19:02.370
<v Speaker 1>be killed. The whole thing is absurd. But you do

0:19:02.450 --> 0:19:06.669
<v Speaker 1>it twice and you see that she's snoring and that

0:19:06.710 --> 0:19:11.990
<v Speaker 1>she's still not dead. As I said to Mike yesterday,

0:19:13.010 --> 0:19:15.910
<v Speaker 1>if the woman is going to be executed, if this

0:19:16.010 --> 0:19:19.390
<v Speaker 1>is an execution, if this is, quote, the death penalty, unquote,

0:19:19.730 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>meaning death. Am I the only one? How about a

0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:31.070
<v Speaker 1>third injection? How about, you know, I don't know, a gun? Bang.

0:19:31.410 --> 0:19:35.410
<v Speaker 1>That's it. It's over. You know, good night, Irene. That'll

0:19:35.430 --> 0:19:38.330
<v Speaker 1>take care of it. You know, in other words, what

0:19:38.369 --> 0:19:46.130
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is, how incompetent can you be that you

0:19:46.210 --> 0:19:50.690
<v Speaker 1>can't even do a freaking execution? You know, say what

0:19:50.730 --> 0:19:54.740
<v Speaker 1>you want about the Iranians. They have no problem executing people.

0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 1>The Russians, they have no problem executing people. The Chinese,

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.139
<v Speaker 1>they have no problem executing people. Hell, I don't have

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:09.310
<v Speaker 1>to even look abroad. Texas, you get executed in Texas,

0:20:09.350 --> 0:20:14.250
<v Speaker 1>you're gone. You know, I mean, I look around, how

0:20:14.270 --> 0:20:17.950
<v Speaker 1>come other states can administer capital punishment and it's absolutely

0:20:18.010 --> 0:20:24.649
<v Speaker 1>no problem? Now, Marsha Blackburn, she's a senator from Tennessee.

0:20:24.710 --> 0:20:27.630
<v Speaker 1>She's now running to be the next governor. Thank the Lord,

0:20:27.670 --> 0:20:29.490
<v Speaker 1>if I was in Tennessee, I'd be voting for her,

0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.780
<v Speaker 1>but let that go. She now is saying we have

0:20:32.820 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to bring back the electric chair. That this lethal injection stuff,

0:20:38.540 --> 0:20:43.010
<v Speaker 1>We're going too far. It's not lethal enough, obviously. And

0:20:43.090 --> 0:20:46.870
<v Speaker 1>so she says if she's governor, she's going to bring

0:20:46.910 --> 0:20:52.090
<v Speaker 1>back the electric chair and basically fry him. And, you know,

0:20:52.310 --> 0:20:55.390
<v Speaker 1>it may take a minute. It may be a little painful.

0:20:55.470 --> 0:20:58.790
<v Speaker 1>And that's the other thing. Everyone is going on about, well,

0:20:58.810 --> 0:21:02.150
<v Speaker 1>the lethal injection, you know, we use it because we

0:21:02.190 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want the the the inmate, the convicted criminal to suffer.

0:21:09.109 --> 0:21:13.370
<v Speaker 1>During an execution. And I was having this discussion with

0:21:13.430 --> 0:21:16.889
<v Speaker 1>Grace last night. I said, I don't mind a little punishment.

0:21:17.810 --> 0:21:21.010
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind a little pain for them after everything

0:21:21.050 --> 0:21:24.449
<v Speaker 1>that they've done to everybody else around them. You know,

0:21:24.470 --> 0:21:27.370
<v Speaker 1>like take hanging. One of the reasons why we don't

0:21:27.390 --> 0:21:30.850
<v Speaker 1>do hangings anymore. They're very effective. They were used in

0:21:30.869 --> 0:21:33.790
<v Speaker 1>the old West all the time. Well, you hang somebody.

0:21:33.850 --> 0:21:36.130
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, the Iranians use hangings all the time.

0:21:38.070 --> 0:21:41.909
<v Speaker 1>Believe me, they work. They don't have botched executions in Iran,

0:21:42.109 --> 0:21:46.530
<v Speaker 1>as an example. So even a primitive third world country

0:21:46.590 --> 0:21:50.690
<v Speaker 1>like them, they can actually administer an execution and do

0:21:50.730 --> 0:21:54.780
<v Speaker 1>it on the first try. Now, yes, your legs are kicking,

0:21:55.300 --> 0:22:00.080
<v Speaker 1>your arms are kicking, because you're suffocating, and it's painful

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 1>for about two minutes. Well, what about here? Colleen Slemmer.

0:22:07.670 --> 0:22:11.710
<v Speaker 1>It took nearly an hour for her and her boyfriend

0:22:12.030 --> 0:22:16.930
<v Speaker 1>to finally finish her off and murder her. They tortured

0:22:16.990 --> 0:22:22.290
<v Speaker 1>her in the most despicable ways imaginable for nearly an hour.

0:22:24.430 --> 0:22:28.150
<v Speaker 1>So it's okay for them to torture the victim for

0:22:28.190 --> 0:22:34.730
<v Speaker 1>nearly an hour? An excruciating pain and humiliation? But God

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.119
<v Speaker 1>forbid they should suffer two minutes as their legs are

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:42.119
<v Speaker 1>kicking and they're being hung, as an example. Firing squad,

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:46.700
<v Speaker 1>it's almost automatic. You put four or five shooters, sharpshooters,

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.159
<v Speaker 1>basically they cut you to ribbons. Maybe you feel something

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:55.140
<v Speaker 1>for 10 seconds. Maybe. But what I'm saying is, suddenly,

0:22:55.160 --> 0:23:02.310
<v Speaker 1>you know, these murderers and torturers, suddenly they can't suffer. Well,

0:23:02.410 --> 0:23:05.220
<v Speaker 1>why shouldn't they suffer? To me, that should be part

0:23:05.260 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>of the whole process. Am I wrong? So, yes, if

0:23:13.619 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 1>need be, bring back the electric chair. Hell, I'm telling you,

0:23:16.780 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>bring back the firing squad. And there's no mistakes there.

0:23:23.300 --> 0:23:28.220
<v Speaker 1>But this, this is now turning into a joke. By

0:23:28.270 --> 0:23:32.969
<v Speaker 1>the way, Tennessee used to administer three drugs, three different

0:23:32.990 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>lethal doses. So, you know, boom, boom, boom, you're dead. No,

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.859
<v Speaker 1>apparently they don't want you to know you're being injected

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.580
<v Speaker 1>three times. It takes too long. It's too painful for

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.820
<v Speaker 1>the criminal, for the inmate. So they made it into

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:53.369
<v Speaker 1>one drug. And I don't know, I guess it was

0:23:53.430 --> 0:23:57.050
<v Speaker 1>diluted or it was the dosage wasn't strong enough or

0:23:57.170 --> 0:24:02.070
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was. And instead, it went on for over

0:24:02.109 --> 0:24:05.530
<v Speaker 1>an hour, and they injected her once, then they took

0:24:05.550 --> 0:24:09.030
<v Speaker 1>the same dose and injected it a second time. And

0:24:09.050 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>then it took about an hour. Sorry, the whole thing

0:24:12.700 --> 0:24:17.419
<v Speaker 1>took over an hour. And she fell asleep snoring, and

0:24:17.460 --> 0:24:19.740
<v Speaker 1>apparently now she's in a deep coma, and it appears

0:24:20.340 --> 0:24:25.020
<v Speaker 1>her liver, her kidney function was badly disrupted. And apparently

0:24:25.060 --> 0:24:28.710
<v Speaker 1>now she's suffering brain damage. She may never wake up again.

0:24:30.710 --> 0:24:34.740
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this whole thing to me is just, people

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 1>should be fired over this at a bare minimum. Now,

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:45.300
<v Speaker 1>what do you do with her now? What do you

0:24:45.340 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>do with her now? If she's lying there like a vegetable,

0:24:49.580 --> 0:24:54.050
<v Speaker 1>you know, brain dead, essentially, what do you do? You

0:24:54.109 --> 0:24:57.410
<v Speaker 1>keep trying to revive her? What, do you execute her? What,

0:24:57.430 --> 0:25:01.060
<v Speaker 1>do you just leave her in that condition? What do

0:25:01.100 --> 0:25:05.900
<v Speaker 1>we do? Seriously, what should we do? My view, she

0:25:05.940 --> 0:25:13.459
<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to be executed. Finish the job. Don't, you know,

0:25:13.500 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 1>the taxpayer is going to have to pay for her

0:25:15.220 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to be on feeding tubes. Now, let me say one

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>last thing, and then I promise I'm going to go

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:25.490
<v Speaker 1>to the phones. And again, it's always the same. The

0:25:25.570 --> 0:25:28.550
<v Speaker 1>voice of the victims and their families are never heard.

0:25:30.710 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Lost yesterday amidst the media circus, crying for Krista Pike,

0:25:41.220 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>attacking capital punishment, calling for capital punishment, the death penalty

0:25:46.980 --> 0:25:51.570
<v Speaker 1>to be banned. Again, the left, like they did with

0:25:51.790 --> 0:25:57.330
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay Clancy, now turning Krista Pike into a cause celebrity,

0:25:58.090 --> 0:26:04.970
<v Speaker 1>a folk hero. this Satanist who, you know, brutally tortured

0:26:05.109 --> 0:26:11.369
<v Speaker 1>and then murdered an innocent 18-year-old girl and in prison

0:26:11.470 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>tried to choke to death, strangle to death with shoelaces,

0:26:15.380 --> 0:26:19.580
<v Speaker 1>another inmate. Okay, so basically you're looking at a serial

0:26:19.619 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>killer or a wannabe serial killer. That's who the left

0:26:24.100 --> 0:26:29.460
<v Speaker 1>now lionizes. But let that go. Colleen Slemmer, the victim's mother,

0:26:31.250 --> 0:26:40.630
<v Speaker 1>was there at the correctional facility waiting for justice. She said,

0:26:40.670 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting 30 years for this. Finally, foreclosure on

0:26:47.020 --> 0:26:53.859
<v Speaker 1>what happened to my beautiful, wonderful Colleen. And then as

0:26:53.900 --> 0:26:59.959
<v Speaker 1>she walked out, she said, I can't believe this. They

0:27:00.020 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>make me wait 30 years. 30 years I live with this.

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:13.010
<v Speaker 1>30 years. And other family members. 30 years. And you

0:27:13.070 --> 0:27:15.790
<v Speaker 1>guys can't even stick two needles or a needle into

0:27:15.830 --> 0:27:21.310
<v Speaker 1>her arm? And now this fiasco? And now this is

0:27:21.330 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be hanging over me? And now the media,

0:27:25.780 --> 0:27:31.630
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats, the left... are turning Krista Pike, this murderer,

0:27:33.730 --> 0:27:40.770
<v Speaker 1>into the victim? And everybody has forgotten her 18-year-old girl? Who,

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.820
<v Speaker 1>by the way, wasn't even interested in the boyfriend, just

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.780
<v Speaker 1>so that people know. And even if she was, that's

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.100
<v Speaker 1>not a crime. You don't torture and murder somebody for that.

0:27:53.510 --> 0:27:56.909
<v Speaker 1>But that lunatic was convinced, I believe this was a

0:27:56.970 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>ritual killing. They were looking for an excuse. They wanted

0:28:01.020 --> 0:28:05.290
<v Speaker 1>to have a sacrifice to Satan. Okay, just very quick.

0:28:05.350 --> 0:28:10.590
<v Speaker 1>This is from Larry on Messenger. Jeff, so they don't

0:28:10.650 --> 0:28:16.070
<v Speaker 1>directly inject the lethal dose, the lethal drug. They put

0:28:16.150 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in an IV and then inject the lethal drugs through

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:27.689
<v Speaker 1>the IV. And apparently what happened was They likely missed

0:28:27.890 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the vein, and the injection went into either the fatty

0:28:32.859 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>tissue or the muscle. And that's what ended up causing

0:28:37.619 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a coma, but it wasn't powerful enough to stop her heart,

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>which is what this dose is supposed to do, and

0:28:45.340 --> 0:28:50.050
<v Speaker 1>thereby killing you. So that's pretty much what happened yesterday.

0:28:50.890 --> 0:28:54.130
<v Speaker 1>Very quick, this is the lawyer, or one of the

0:28:54.170 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>two lawyers... For Krista Pike, this is attorney Stephen Farrell,

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.990
<v Speaker 1>and this is what he had to say. Roll cut

0:29:03.210 --> 0:29:04.330
<v Speaker 1>to Mike.

0:29:07.950 --> 0:29:12.490
<v Speaker 5>Krista Pike was very concerned that this execution would go

0:29:12.670 --> 0:29:16.660
<v Speaker 5>exactly the way it ended up coming out. She's explained

0:29:16.700 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 5>to us that she had trouble with blood draws.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>So she was very worried about it. That's why, in fact,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.700
<v Speaker 1>she and her lawyers were asking for death by firing squad,

0:29:29.220 --> 0:29:32.100
<v Speaker 1>even though Tennessee doesn't have it. She was saying, look,

0:29:32.140 --> 0:29:35.190
<v Speaker 1>please make an exception for me. If you start playing

0:29:35.230 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>with IVs and needles and looking to find veins, you're not...

0:29:40.100 --> 0:29:42.260
<v Speaker 1>going to find one with me because her veins apparently

0:29:42.300 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>are extremely small. Listen now to the attorney again, Stephen Farrell.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.710
<v Speaker 1>This is Krista Pike's attorney saying, and we even went

0:29:51.750 --> 0:29:56.370
<v Speaker 1>to court. We actually went to court over this and

0:29:56.570 --> 0:30:00.100
<v Speaker 1>nobody took us seriously. Roll cut to way, Mike.

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.940
<v Speaker 5>Her blood draws were difficult. She has a blood disorder

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.620
<v Speaker 5>that contributes to that. And we knew this was coming.

0:30:10.060 --> 0:30:13.370
<v Speaker 5>So back in January, we asked that this problem be

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:17.770
<v Speaker 5>addressed in a way that would not lead to the

0:30:17.830 --> 0:30:19.230
<v Speaker 5>torture that happened last night.

0:30:20.450 --> 0:30:23.610
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now I want to throw one last log on

0:30:23.630 --> 0:30:25.330
<v Speaker 1>the fire and then I'm going to go to the phones.

0:30:26.350 --> 0:30:29.350
<v Speaker 1>Do you think what happened last night Would you consider

0:30:29.430 --> 0:30:36.010
<v Speaker 1>that torture? I'm just curious. Do you consider that torture?

0:30:36.390 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Because this is what her lawyers, and to be fair,

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>this is what the media, the so-called fake news media,

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they're pouncing all over this, that by having the two

0:30:48.660 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>injections be botched and this going on for over an hour,

0:30:53.940 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Now she's, you know, apparently in a deep sleep, you know,

0:30:56.380 --> 0:31:00.930
<v Speaker 1>a deep snooze. She's snoring. Looks like she's got brain damage.

0:31:00.990 --> 0:31:04.910
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, they're saying she suffered a lot of pain

0:31:06.070 --> 0:31:11.550
<v Speaker 1>and that this amounts to state sanctioned torture. And that

0:31:11.590 --> 0:31:15.300
<v Speaker 1>this is cruel and unusual punishment. which is, as you know,

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>against the Constitution, and that they want her now to

0:31:19.940 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>have her death penalty rescinded or commuted, to be more accurate,

0:31:24.850 --> 0:31:28.230
<v Speaker 1>and that she should now be left alive, whether it's

0:31:28.270 --> 0:31:30.150
<v Speaker 1>on a feeding tube or if she does make a

0:31:30.190 --> 0:31:33.170
<v Speaker 1>full recovery or she's revived, to then spend the rest

0:31:33.210 --> 0:31:36.850
<v Speaker 1>of her days, she's only 50 years old, behind bars

0:31:37.550 --> 0:31:40.870
<v Speaker 1>for life, but that she should no longer have to

0:31:40.950 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>face the death penalty. 617- 266-6868. You know where I stand.

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Finish the job. What are we waiting for here? A

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.540
<v Speaker 1>sentence is a sentence. A death penalty is a death penalty.

0:31:58.620 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And there are many ways to do it outside of

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a lethal injection. But that's me. I want to hear

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>from you.

0:32:05.340 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>617-266-6868.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:15.500
<v Speaker 1>Rick, in Nashville, Tennessee. Thanks for holding, Rick, and welcome.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:21.270
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for taking my call, Jeff. A couple points

0:32:21.330 --> 0:32:24.430
<v Speaker 3>of corrections, or at least one. We do have the

0:32:25.150 --> 0:32:30.350
<v Speaker 3>electric chair as an option to lethal injection. In fact,

0:32:30.410 --> 0:32:34.220
<v Speaker 3>it's in the same room from what I understand. It's

0:32:34.300 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 3>in the execution room. However, She asked for a firing

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 3>squad by all female shooters, which the state rejected, number one,

0:32:46.810 --> 0:32:51.110
<v Speaker 3>because firing squad is not one of the options for

0:32:51.370 --> 0:32:57.070
<v Speaker 3>the execution procedure. But they did give her an all-female

0:32:58.250 --> 0:33:04.900
<v Speaker 3>lethal injection crew, if you will, team, with the exception

0:33:04.940 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 3>of the doctor that.

0:33:07.810 --> 0:33:10.830
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who just oversees it, right, Ricky? Because as a doctor,

0:33:10.870 --> 0:33:12.330
<v Speaker 1>you can't actually participate.

0:33:12.490 --> 0:33:16.310
<v Speaker 3>Right, he hasn't. He's not even licensed to be on

0:33:16.350 --> 0:33:18.690
<v Speaker 3>a medical board or to be in any kind of

0:33:18.730 --> 0:33:25.010
<v Speaker 3>facility in Tennessee. My understanding is he hasn't been a

0:33:25.210 --> 0:33:31.890
<v Speaker 3>practicing doctor for 13 years. But at any rate, the

0:33:31.970 --> 0:33:33.230
<v Speaker 3>sentiment down here is.

0:33:37.110 --> 0:33:38.230
<v Speaker 1>We've already paid.

0:33:38.030 --> 0:33:43.790
<v Speaker 3>About a million and I think $ 1. 6 million for her

0:33:43.810 --> 0:33:48.950
<v Speaker 3>30-year incarceration. And now if, in fact, and it's being

0:33:48.970 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>reported on all the channels down here that she is

0:33:52.260 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 3>in Vanderbilt University Hospital, which has the finest care in

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 3>the world, and she's on some type of a life

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:08.650
<v Speaker 3>support program. possibly brain damage, whatnot, that now we're going

0:34:08.670 --> 0:34:13.170
<v Speaker 3>to be on the hook. If she lives for another whatever,

0:34:13.190 --> 0:34:17.290
<v Speaker 3>X amount of days, months, years, we're going to be

0:34:17.350 --> 0:34:23.140
<v Speaker 3>on the hook to pay for that. However, most of

0:34:23.180 --> 0:34:27.060
<v Speaker 3>the people I spoke to, we have the opinion that, look,

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:32.490
<v Speaker 3>the execution was not carried out. obviously, she's not dead.

0:34:32.870 --> 0:34:37.509
<v Speaker 3>And according to the language in the warrant for her execution,

0:34:37.530 --> 0:34:41.150
<v Speaker 3>it says that you, you know, that you're going to

0:34:41.170 --> 0:34:42.900
<v Speaker 3>be either administered drugs or you're going to be in

0:34:42.910 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 3>an electric chair until you no longer are alive. And

0:34:46.660 --> 0:34:50.540
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't the case. So that's, that remains to be seen.

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 3>It's in Nashville, given the politics in Nashville, it's, Tennessee

0:34:58.340 --> 0:35:02.020
<v Speaker 3>is a red, red state. Nashville is a blue, blue,

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:07.109
<v Speaker 3>blue city, and that's the state capital. So that remains

0:35:07.150 --> 0:35:10.230
<v Speaker 3>to be seen. Popular Money says that, no, they probably

0:35:10.270 --> 0:35:17.530
<v Speaker 3>won't carry out another execution. The governor, as you reported,

0:35:17.570 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Bill Lee, He's passed a buck and said, you know,

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:25.340
<v Speaker 3>he's canceling this other fellow that this doctor blotched, as

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 3>you reported, an earlier lethal injection execution earlier this year

0:35:34.930 --> 0:35:39.650
<v Speaker 3>or last year. It was last year because after that happened,

0:35:40.250 --> 0:35:46.250
<v Speaker 3>the governor suspended or put a reprieve for one year

0:35:46.550 --> 0:35:50.470
<v Speaker 3>on this fella. He's coming up to bat again. His

0:35:50.570 --> 0:35:54.290
<v Speaker 3>one year is up, is expired. But now, because of

0:35:54.350 --> 0:36:01.660
<v Speaker 3>this Krista Pike's fiasco, there's a moratorium on all executions

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:05.370
<v Speaker 3>for the rest of the year. And of course, Marsha

0:36:05.489 --> 0:36:08.890
<v Speaker 3>is running for governor. She's already came out and said,

0:36:08.969 --> 0:36:11.830
<v Speaker 3>when I get to be governor, and she will win,

0:36:11.910 --> 0:36:15.590
<v Speaker 3>there's no doubt in my mind, that she's going to

0:36:15.650 --> 0:36:20.110
<v Speaker 3>reinstate or she's going to eliminate the death by legal

0:36:20.290 --> 0:36:24.570
<v Speaker 3>or lethal injection and just go back to at least

0:36:25.110 --> 0:36:25.950
<v Speaker 3>the electric chair.

0:36:27.370 --> 0:36:32.550
<v Speaker 1>So, Rick, would you prefer going back to the electric chair?

0:36:32.870 --> 0:36:38.030
<v Speaker 1>In other words, forget this lethal injection business and just,

0:36:38.130 --> 0:36:39.810
<v Speaker 1>you know, the way we used to do it, fry

0:36:39.850 --> 0:36:40.470
<v Speaker 1>him on the chair?

0:36:41.610 --> 0:36:44.660
<v Speaker 3>Because that's foolproof. There was only one case that I'm

0:36:44.700 --> 0:36:49.100
<v Speaker 3>aware of in Louisiana where a guy got electrocuted and

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.580
<v Speaker 3>he lived. And he walked away a free man. He

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 3>didn't walk away. He was hospitalized for a while. But

0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:03.489
<v Speaker 3>then he recovered. And they said, hey, he paid his

0:37:04.110 --> 0:37:07.569
<v Speaker 3>debt to society. They electrocuted him. It's just they didn't

0:37:07.590 --> 0:37:13.460
<v Speaker 3>kill him. So– but no, I would say electric chair,

0:37:14.660 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's– and you're talking about cruel, unusual punishment.

0:37:20.090 --> 0:37:24.730
<v Speaker 3>According to the Tennessee protocol for the executions or even

0:37:24.780 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 3>for lethal injection, you can only administer two doses of phenobarbital,

0:37:31.100 --> 0:37:36.140
<v Speaker 3>and that's what I think what they're using. In the

0:37:37.020 --> 0:37:41.780
<v Speaker 3>execution process, you cannot do it. You can't keep putting

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:48.220
<v Speaker 3>in more lines, drip bags to inject. execute the person.

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.420
<v Speaker 3>If the two don't work, then that's it.

0:37:53.340 --> 0:37:56.940
<v Speaker 1>You know, what is it with Tennessee, Rick, that they

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>can't seem to, you know, execute somebody? What's going on

0:38:03.140 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>in the Department of Correction? Because, you know, as I mentioned,

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.910
<v Speaker 1>countries all over the world, it's no problem. Even other states,

0:38:12.300 --> 0:38:15.870
<v Speaker 1>it's no problem. But in Tennessee, it seems to be

0:38:15.910 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>a problem. I mean, is somebody there trying to sabotage it?

0:38:20.380 --> 0:38:24.030
<v Speaker 1>So because if that was their goal, they've succeeded because

0:38:24.070 --> 0:38:27.609
<v Speaker 1>now there's a media circus around this. And right away

0:38:27.650 --> 0:38:31.109
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, look, look how inhumane the death penalty is.

0:38:31.730 --> 0:38:34.330
<v Speaker 1>Look how cruel it is. This was torture, as her

0:38:34.350 --> 0:38:38.890
<v Speaker 1>lawyer says. And let's just ban it altogether. You know,

0:38:38.930 --> 0:38:41.930
<v Speaker 1>in other words, look, look at the death penalty. It's inefficient.

0:38:42.530 --> 0:38:46.549
<v Speaker 1>It takes forever. Look how it, you know, it could,

0:38:46.590 --> 0:38:49.990
<v Speaker 1>you know, maim you or, you know, cause you brain

0:38:50.030 --> 0:38:55.069
<v Speaker 1>damage and, you know, and leave you, you know, paralyzed or,

0:38:55.660 --> 0:38:59.460
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a vegetable in a hospital that it's barbaric.

0:39:00.260 --> 0:39:03.259
<v Speaker 1>So it seems to me that somebody there either has

0:39:03.300 --> 0:39:07.180
<v Speaker 1>an ax to grind and is doing something to undermine

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the death penalty, or you've got people in the Department

0:39:10.500 --> 0:39:14.660
<v Speaker 1>of Correction who who are absolutely incompetent and should be

0:39:14.780 --> 0:39:17.339
<v Speaker 1>fired on the spot. Am I wrong, Rick?

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:23.029
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and it's happened twice now under this doctor's tutelage.

0:39:23.810 --> 0:39:28.049
<v Speaker 3>So he's the problem. A lot of people are saying

0:39:28.090 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 3>he should have been fired last year when that one

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.460
<v Speaker 3>was launched. But, you know, one thing that seems to

0:39:35.500 --> 0:39:39.060
<v Speaker 3>be going under the radar here is this was not

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 3>the normal or the regular execution team. They brought in

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:51.739
<v Speaker 3>an all-female team. at Krista's request because she didn't want

0:39:51.780 --> 0:39:54.899
<v Speaker 3>to go out looking at a man. That was her,

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.980
<v Speaker 3>what's being reported on local media here. That's why she

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>wanted an all-female group. Now, a lot of people are

0:40:02.219 --> 0:40:06.970
<v Speaker 3>speculating that, well, sure, things were done wrong because there's

0:40:07.010 --> 0:40:10.069
<v Speaker 3>never been an all-female, in fact, to my knowledge, never

0:40:10.130 --> 0:40:15.890
<v Speaker 3>been a female on the team, the execution team prior

0:40:15.969 --> 0:40:18.860
<v Speaker 3>to The other day, Wednesday.

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:26.490
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Interesting. Rick, I got to say, extremely informative call. Really.

0:40:26.790 --> 0:40:31.950
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's almost like you're the Kuhner Reports Nashville correspondent. Really,

0:40:31.989 --> 0:40:37.150
<v Speaker 1>I'm serious. Great reportage from what's happening in Nashville on

0:40:37.190 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>this case. Rick, thank you again. And please don't be

0:40:41.060 --> 0:40:48.169
<v Speaker 1>a stranger. Keep calling 617-266-7000. 68, 68 is the number. Look,

0:40:48.489 --> 0:40:53.290
<v Speaker 1>look again, this is what I find infuriating. This woman

0:40:54.690 --> 0:41:01.100
<v Speaker 1>murdered an innocent 18 year old girl in a satanic ritual,

0:41:01.140 --> 0:41:06.620
<v Speaker 1>almost like a satanic mass ritual tortured her. They with,

0:41:06.780 --> 0:41:08.300
<v Speaker 1>forgive me, but if you want to, they took a

0:41:08.340 --> 0:41:12.009
<v Speaker 1>knife and they carved a pentagram on her chest.

0:41:12.030 --> 0:41:12.860
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:41:12.890 --> 0:41:17.460
<v Speaker 1>The, the, the poor victim said, Colleen, the poor victim,

0:41:18.420 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and they carved a pentagram on her chest and then

0:41:22.100 --> 0:41:25.340
<v Speaker 1>tortured her and tortured her and tortured her for nearly

0:41:25.380 --> 0:41:30.830
<v Speaker 1>an hour until they finally killed her off and smashed

0:41:30.870 --> 0:41:35.390
<v Speaker 1>her skull to pieces with a massive block of asphalt.

0:41:35.430 --> 0:41:39.230
<v Speaker 1>And as I said, this sicko, Krista Pike, takes a

0:41:39.370 --> 0:41:43.299
<v Speaker 1>slice or a piece of the skull as kind of

0:41:43.340 --> 0:41:47.910
<v Speaker 1>like a souvenir. and almost like a sign of her

0:41:48.380 --> 0:41:53.500
<v Speaker 1>devotion to Lucifer, to Satan. And then this whack job,

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you put her in a prison, and the first chance

0:41:56.900 --> 0:42:01.020
<v Speaker 1>she gets, she tries to kill another inmate. And she

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:05.630
<v Speaker 1>was convicted of that. And that's why they tossed her

0:42:05.650 --> 0:42:10.950
<v Speaker 1>into solitary confinement. Her shyster lawyers and the media is like, well,

0:42:10.989 --> 0:42:14.489
<v Speaker 1>she's paid enough. She was in solitary for 20 years.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>She was in solitary because she kept trying to kill people.

0:42:18.380 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>She was convicted of trying to kill people. She pulled

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:32.629
<v Speaker 1>out her shoelaces and almost successfully strangled another inmate. You know,

0:42:32.670 --> 0:42:33.969
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever seen, what is it,

0:42:33.969 --> 0:42:40.790
<v Speaker 1>you know, Hannibal? You know, the Anthony Hopkins character? You know,

0:42:40.890 --> 0:42:43.819
<v Speaker 1>and the first movie was with Jodie Foster. And then

0:42:43.860 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>they kind of did a couple of spinoffs. Well, okay,

0:42:46.820 --> 0:42:50.380
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't eat, you know, her victims the way he did. But,

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.940
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the kind of killer that anything, you

0:42:52.980 --> 0:42:55.470
<v Speaker 1>give him a pen, he'll kill you. A fork, he'll

0:42:55.489 --> 0:43:00.250
<v Speaker 1>kill you. A shoelace, he'll kill you. That's her. She's

0:43:00.270 --> 0:43:02.630
<v Speaker 1>like a female version of, you know, of Hannibal, of

0:43:02.650 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Hannibal Lecter. So that's why they kept her in solitary confinement.

0:43:09.230 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>And like, well, she's paid enough. No, she hasn't. And

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:17.540
<v Speaker 1>let me just say this. You're convicted of murder. Hell,

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:22.140
<v Speaker 1>you're convicted of torture and murder. And then of attempted

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.330
<v Speaker 1>murder a second time on another victim. Why do you

0:43:26.370 --> 0:43:29.090
<v Speaker 1>get to choose what the gender of the people that

0:43:29.110 --> 0:43:32.509
<v Speaker 1>are going to execute you? Like, why do we have

0:43:32.530 --> 0:43:35.569
<v Speaker 1>to accommodate you? You know, I don't want to see

0:43:35.610 --> 0:43:37.220
<v Speaker 1>a man. I don't care if you want to see

0:43:37.260 --> 0:43:39.899
<v Speaker 1>a man or not. Or you only want to see

0:43:39.940 --> 0:43:41.439
<v Speaker 1>a woman or you don't want to see a woman.

0:43:41.460 --> 0:43:43.420
<v Speaker 1>You only want to see a man or whatever. I

0:43:43.460 --> 0:43:48.180
<v Speaker 1>don't care. We're going to give you the best execution

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>squad possible. That's going to kill you as effectively as possible,

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:59.850
<v Speaker 1>as efficiently as possible. And, you know, say hello to

0:43:59.890 --> 0:44:04.410
<v Speaker 1>the devil when you meet him. Why are we? I

0:44:04.430 --> 0:44:10.140
<v Speaker 1>don't understand this. They have committed the most heinous, unspeakable crimes.

0:44:11.980 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, tell me, when Colleen was lying on the

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:19.109
<v Speaker 1>ground and they were torturing her bit by bit by

0:44:19.210 --> 0:44:23.569
<v Speaker 1>bit as she desperately cried out for help, did they

0:44:23.630 --> 0:44:29.810
<v Speaker 1>accommodate her? I'm just saying. Did Krista and her lover boy,

0:44:29.850 --> 0:44:34.770
<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend, did they accommodate her? When she said, please

0:44:34.830 --> 0:44:41.270
<v Speaker 1>let me go, did they say, yeah, okay. Please stop? Yeah, okay.

0:44:41.870 --> 0:44:44.230
<v Speaker 1>Please don't kill me. You know what? I'm going to

0:44:44.270 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>grant you your wish. Seriously, what are they running, a

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>freaking buffet over there at that correction facility? So what

0:44:55.380 --> 0:44:58.689
<v Speaker 1>do you want with your execution? Tell me. You want

0:44:58.750 --> 0:45:03.390
<v Speaker 1>it firing squad? You want it lethal? What do you want? Electric?

0:45:06.170 --> 0:45:09.180
<v Speaker 1>And what's the combo? All female? All male?

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Half?

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Half-half? Maybe what? Lesbian? Gay? Bisexual? Transgender? Tell me, what

0:45:15.700 --> 0:45:24.250
<v Speaker 1>do you want? Honestly, pathetic. Pathetic. It's as if we're

0:45:24.310 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 1>almost semi-apologetic. for having executed this woman and 30 freaking years.

0:45:32.690 --> 0:45:35.410
<v Speaker 1>That to me is the biggest outrage of all. The

0:45:35.450 --> 0:45:41.810
<v Speaker 1>murder took place in 1995, heinous, unspeakable. She's convicted and

0:45:41.969 --> 0:45:44.969
<v Speaker 1>sentenced to death in 1990, 1996. And we're at this

0:45:44.969 --> 0:45:55.469
<v Speaker 1>30 years later, 30 freaking years later, That's 30 more

0:45:55.530 --> 0:46:01.860
<v Speaker 1>years than her victim Colleen ever had. Three square meals.

0:46:03.500 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>All the books she wants. Satellite television. Walks outside one hour.

0:46:11.700 --> 0:46:13.569
<v Speaker 1>They get a mandate to get one hour to walk

0:46:13.610 --> 0:46:20.149
<v Speaker 1>around outside, look at the sun, get fresh air. All

0:46:20.190 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of this. You know, hell, she had enough freedom to

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:29.919
<v Speaker 1>try to kill an inmate. And, you know, and so

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:35.810
<v Speaker 1>on our dime, on the taxpayers' dime, and now they

0:46:35.830 --> 0:46:37.469
<v Speaker 1>want to keep her in a feeding tool but say

0:46:37.510 --> 0:46:40.770
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't come back. So we got to pay for

0:46:40.830 --> 0:46:45.350
<v Speaker 1>her for what, another 20, 30 years? I mean, I'm sorry,

0:46:45.390 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 1>this is sick. Joe in Beverly, thanks for holding, Joe,

0:46:51.570 --> 0:46:52.049
<v Speaker 1>and welcome.

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:55.300
<v Speaker 2>You doing today?

0:46:55.820 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. How are you, Joe?

0:46:57.739 --> 0:46:59.819
<v Speaker 2>Not too bad. I think I have the answer to

0:46:59.860 --> 0:47:04.950
<v Speaker 2>the lethal injection problem. I'm a retired EMT at 35 years,

0:47:04.969 --> 0:47:10.430
<v Speaker 2>and there's a device that the paramedics use. Every paramedic

0:47:10.550 --> 0:47:13.969
<v Speaker 2>unit in Massachusetts has one. It's called an IO. It's

0:47:14.010 --> 0:47:18.359
<v Speaker 2>called inter-osteo. And what it basically is, Jeff, is it's

0:47:18.380 --> 0:47:22.100
<v Speaker 2>a small drill that drills into the bone of your

0:47:22.140 --> 0:47:25.940
<v Speaker 2>tibia and goes right into the bone marrow. Now, the

0:47:25.980 --> 0:47:28.259
<v Speaker 2>bone marrow is very vascular, so there's a lot of

0:47:28.300 --> 0:47:30.820
<v Speaker 2>blood in there, and it will deliver the medicine about

0:47:30.930 --> 0:47:36.989
<v Speaker 2>twice as fast. This bypasses all veins. okay it's pretty

0:47:37.030 --> 0:47:40.669
<v Speaker 2>much foolproof and why the doctors haven't you know they're

0:47:40.690 --> 0:47:43.219
<v Speaker 2>scratching their head and they haven't figured that one out

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you know and it's foolproof and you can actually once

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.540
<v Speaker 2>you've got the iv catheter in you can flush it

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to see that it's working and i think that would

0:47:54.860 --> 0:47:55.900
<v Speaker 2>end this whole.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:03.700
<v Speaker 1>Problem joe you're not just 100 you're 1000 correct But

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>here's the flaw in your argument. And it's not a flaw.

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.450
<v Speaker 1>It's not a flaw. I'm telling you, it's not. See,

0:48:09.550 --> 0:48:15.290
<v Speaker 1>according to the liberals, your method is too good, too efficient,

0:48:15.450 --> 0:48:21.230
<v Speaker 1>too effective. The reason why they choose this barbitol, this

0:48:21.270 --> 0:48:24.750
<v Speaker 1>type of barbitol, is because they want to make it

0:48:24.950 --> 0:48:30.180
<v Speaker 1>as painless and as, I'm not kidding, comfortable as possible.

0:48:31.510 --> 0:48:34.169
<v Speaker 1>So they inject it in the IV from the IV

0:48:34.230 --> 0:48:36.590
<v Speaker 1>into the vein. And then what it does is it

0:48:36.710 --> 0:48:40.610
<v Speaker 1>slows down your heart and then slows it down a

0:48:40.650 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 1>little more and then slows it down a little more.

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:48.060
<v Speaker 1>So you almost like fall asleep. And then as you

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:52.259
<v Speaker 1>fall asleep, you gently go into that good night and

0:48:52.300 --> 0:48:57.820
<v Speaker 1>then you die peacefully in your sleep. So there's no,

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:03.340
<v Speaker 1>there's not a second of pain. or discomfort, or, you know,

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 1>of anything that would, you know, cause any kind of

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:14.569
<v Speaker 1>trauma within the inmate. Your solution is a solution. What

0:49:14.630 --> 0:49:20.940
<v Speaker 1>they want is a cocktail that provides no inconvenience whatsoever

0:49:21.940 --> 0:49:26.810
<v Speaker 1>to these murderers, criminals and monsters. That's why they would

0:49:26.850 --> 0:49:30.390
<v Speaker 1>never go for what you're suggesting. That's why they think

0:49:30.430 --> 0:49:33.500
<v Speaker 1>the firing squad is barbaric or the electric chair is

0:49:33.540 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 1>barbaric or hanging is barbaric or the guillotine is barbaric.