Speaker 1: Don't want to be an American.
Speaker 2: It's got so lun show back on seven hundred Woldy
Speaker 2: got election coming.
Speaker 1: Up to Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Levy's in a dozen places, local offices, and there's a
Speaker 2: big CPS renewal. We've got the mayor's race, of course,
Speaker 2: and some twenty six people. It feels like three thousand
Speaker 2: people trying to place in the top nine. So twenty
Speaker 2: six people looking for nine jobs in a Sea Down
Speaker 2: council on this and more. Is the person who controls
Speaker 2: it all. That would be the director of the Hamlin
Speaker 2: County Board of Elections, Sherry Poland, welcome back.
Speaker 3: How are you.
Speaker 4: I'm doing well, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: You always in a good mood.
Speaker 2: This is like right now I would be just crabby
Speaker 2: af you know what I mean, because you got so
Speaker 2: much coming at you right now.
Speaker 3: All right, so we'll start with this.
Speaker 2: The polls up on Tuesday, six thirty am to seven
Speaker 2: thirty I believe correct, that's.
Speaker 4: Crack six thirty am to seven thirty pm.
Speaker 3: Don't forget the driver's license.
Speaker 4: That's correct, that's correct. A few years ago, Hi Ohio
Speaker 4: changed these acceptable forms of ID for voting, so in
Speaker 4: order to vote in person, you do need to have
Speaker 4: a State of Ohio driver's license or a State of
Speaker 4: Ohio identification card, or a passport or military ID. So
Speaker 4: make sure it's not expired. Make sure it's up to
Speaker 4: date before you come to the polls.
Speaker 2: Okay, I bring one that's expired, I forget it. What happens,
Speaker 2: I can vote, no problem.
Speaker 4: If you do not have an acceptable form of ID,
Speaker 4: you will be issued what we call a provisional ballot.
Speaker 4: It's the same ballot that's issued to every other voter
Speaker 4: you would market, but instead of scanning it and having
Speaker 4: it counted election night, it's placed inside what we call
Speaker 4: a provisional envelope and that has your identifying information on it.
Speaker 4: You fill that out after election day. Bipartisan teams verify
Speaker 4: the information on the envelope, and the voter has four
Speaker 4: days after election day, so that's the Saturday after election
Speaker 4: day to come to the Board of Elections and present
Speaker 4: an acceptable form of ID. If they do, then that
Speaker 4: ballot will be added to the official count, which occurs
Speaker 4: a few weeks after election day. I do want to
Speaker 4: note that if you're in that, find yourself in that
Speaker 4: situation right now. So your driver's license or state idea
Speaker 4: is expired. Go to the BMV before you come to
Speaker 4: the polls. That interim documentation that the BMB gives you
Speaker 4: while your identification is being mailed to you, that interim
Speaker 4: idea that's good for driving purposes, it's also acceptable for voting.
Speaker 4: So if you have that, you will not have to
Speaker 4: vote provisionally.
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. Let's talk about the early voting numbers.
Speaker 2: How early voting the absentee ballots, and how does the
Speaker 2: request compared to previous elections and what does that tell
Speaker 2: you about what's going to happen Tuesday?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So absent te voting, which is that umbrella that
Speaker 4: contains both voting by mail and early in person voting.
Speaker 4: We're pretty much right on track as to the twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one election. So four years ago, once again Cincinnati
Speaker 4: was voting council members, mayor this election, that turnout is
Speaker 4: tracking right on pace with that twenty twenty one election.
Speaker 2: Okay, compare that to like the presidential cycle, the last
Speaker 2: presidential election, so one twenty percent.
Speaker 3: Okay, what are we talking?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in twenty twenty one, county wide, we saw
Speaker 4: a twenty six percent turnout. City Cincinnati is slightly lower
Speaker 4: in twenty five percent. Compare that to a presidential where
Speaker 4: we see a seventy two percent turnout. So unfortunately, we
Speaker 4: don't see the turnout in odd numbered years elections than
Speaker 4: we do in the even years. But you know, we
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard for us in the business to
Speaker 4: understand why that happens, because we are voting for our
Speaker 4: local elected officials. These are the folks that really have
Speaker 4: an impact on our day to day lives. So I
Speaker 4: encourage everyone if you haven't voted yet, voted yet early
Speaker 4: voting in person is still ongoing through Sunday, and then
Speaker 4: you know your polls will be open in your community
Speaker 4: on election Day, get out and vote.
Speaker 2: I would say it's simply but it's marketing, I think, right,
Speaker 2: because in a presidential cycle, it's in your face all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: You're getting tons of robo calls.
Speaker 2: Social media feed is packed with political messages and bickering.
Speaker 2: You turn on a streaming show or TV and you're
Speaker 2: inundated with political messages. President presidential visis front and center,
Speaker 2: and I think it just the marketing drives more people
Speaker 2: to polls.
Speaker 3: That's my theory.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. Something else we see is that you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes controversial issues will bring voters out to the polls.
Speaker 4: So two years ago, twenty twenty three odd year, you know,
Speaker 4: election again looking electing local officials, we saw a higher turnout.
Speaker 4: I think we saw a forty eight percent turnout in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. But that your abortion, marijuana. We're both
Speaker 4: on the ballot, So the issues can also drive out turnout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think that's probably a good point too,
Speaker 2: is the more globally issued. That's a state issue. But
Speaker 2: everyone's like, okay, I can identify with that. You start
Speaker 2: talking about millage and levees and school boards and dogcatchers,
Speaker 2: people's eyes glaze over, rightly or wrongly. I think that's
Speaker 2: how we're programms. Like I got my ballot where we
Speaker 2: just moved to and looked at and were like three
Speaker 2: or four things on there, and most of them were
Speaker 2: fairly inane. There's a levee issue which I voted on,
Speaker 2: but the other ones are like, I don't know who
Speaker 2: these people are. Did some research found out some of them?
Speaker 2: Other ones I just and the ones I looked at
Speaker 2: when I have no idea who they are. I can't
Speaker 2: find any information on them. I just left blank, which
Speaker 2: is the same.
Speaker 4: You kid, you can absolutely skip the contest. That is
Speaker 4: your right to do that. But I think you bring
Speaker 4: up another very good point, and that is to become
Speaker 4: an informed voter. And it's easy to do if you
Speaker 4: vote by mail, because that ballot is mail to your house.
Speaker 4: You can fit take your time to the research. However,
Speaker 4: for this election, voting by mail has ended. That ended
Speaker 4: on Tuesday. Anyone who wished to vote by mail had
Speaker 4: to submit an application to the board by this past Tuesday,
Speaker 4: Chamber twenty, so voting by mail has ended. But what
Speaker 4: you can do if you are going to vote in
Speaker 4: person then is go on to our website vote Hamilton County,
Speaker 4: Ohio dot gov. Vote Hamilton County, Ohio dot gov. Go
Speaker 4: onto our website and you can look up your sample
Speaker 4: ballot on our website so it looks almost identical to
Speaker 4: the ballot you'll receive when you walk into the polling place.
Speaker 4: So reviewed ahead of time, do your research like you did,
Speaker 4: and become an informed voter so there's no surprises when
Speaker 4: you walk into the polling place. You can go in
Speaker 4: knowing how you want to cast your ballot.
Speaker 2: Scott's Onland with Sherry Poland she's the director Hamilin County
Speaker 2: Board of Elections. Got the election coming up Tuesday. If
Speaker 2: you're in person, at six point thirty relative to that, Sherry,
Speaker 2: you know, you mentioned the twenty right around twenty six
Speaker 2: percent turnout right around that maybe twenty five one.
Speaker 3: Out every four voters in the city.
Speaker 2: And sometimes issues will bring out more people on off
Speaker 2: year elections, as this one is because you don't have
Speaker 2: the hype of the presidential I understand that, and I
Speaker 2: think people are just fatigued too going I'm going to
Speaker 2: take a knee here this year.
Speaker 3: I don't need to show.
Speaker 2: But I thought, you know, with the crime issue in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: and I know you can't get in and that's not
Speaker 2: your area concern, you're just managing the election. But I thought,
Speaker 2: for sure, with the interesting crime downtown and the number
Speaker 2: of people running for counsel, that would I get I guess,
Speaker 2: maybe drive more people out.
Speaker 4: That surprised me, you know, and it's still a possibility
Speaker 4: on election day. You know, the majority of voters in
Speaker 4: Hamilton County still choose to vote on election day, so
Speaker 4: you know, we might see that higher turnout come.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't have a crystal ball that tells
Speaker 4: me that, But well I'll find out on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exact, we'll find out together on Tuesday. Regarding that too,
Speaker 2: how many more people this year and I'm sure you're
Speaker 2: looking at the trend and it's just align almost straight upward.
Speaker 2: Would guess the number of people taking advantage of the
Speaker 2: very generous way we can vote early in the Buckeye State,
Speaker 2: where like me, I just would rather have it mailed
Speaker 2: to my house. I'd get a cup of coffee, sit
Speaker 2: there on a Sunday afternoon morning, I guess before football
Speaker 2: and figure out who I'm and what I'm voting for,
Speaker 2: do a little research. Whereas typically you don't have that
Speaker 2: kind of time. You feel pressured if you're standing there
Speaker 2: in queue, and then you know, getting into the booth
Speaker 2: itself to actually punch the draw the little circles. I guess,
Speaker 2: not punch the card, but draw the circle. This is
Speaker 2: easier to know how many more people are taking advantge
Speaker 2: are we see that trend continue upward?
Speaker 4: What we're seeing continue to trend upward is the early
Speaker 4: in person voting. It's just become you know, extremely extremely
Speaker 4: popular in Hamilton County. It started when we moved the
Speaker 4: board of elections away from downtown to our current facility
Speaker 4: in Norwood. You know, it's more centrally located in the
Speaker 4: county that we serve. We have you know, a large
Speaker 4: amount of free public parking, and that's that is what's
Speaker 4: trending upward, is that early in person vote voting every
Speaker 4: election we outpass the last similar election. When it comes
Speaker 4: to that, voting by mail is you know, sort of
Speaker 4: holding study or maybe dropping slightly. You know, during twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: we had many many people vote by mail, obviously due
Speaker 4: to the pandemic, and we thought that perhaps that trend
Speaker 4: would continue because now we have so many people that
Speaker 4: were never exposed to voting by mail before, they might
Speaker 4: have found it to be very convenient. But that didn't happen.
Speaker 4: After twenty twenty, we went back to the majority of
Speaker 4: Hamiltons County voters casting the ballot the traditional way at
Speaker 4: the polling place on.
Speaker 3: Election I hate that's happening.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I think one way. You know,
Speaker 4: we live in the Midwest. We like our traditions. You know,
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people that say to me,
Speaker 4: you know, no, I go into my polling place on
Speaker 4: election day. That's a sacred day. To me, that's what
Speaker 4: I do and I'm not going to deviate, you know,
Speaker 4: from that, which you know, I think is interesting. Then
Speaker 4: we have a lot of people with the early voting.
Speaker 4: You know, we have voting for almost a month at
Speaker 4: our Early Vote Center, and it is and people find
Speaker 4: it to be, you know, extremely convenient. I will note
Speaker 4: obviously on election day you must go to your assigned
Speaker 4: polling place, which is based on where you live, whereas
Speaker 4: at the Early Vote Center, you know, anyone who lives
Speaker 4: of matter where you live in Hamilton Counties, your registered voter,
Speaker 4: you can come and vote the Early voat Center. So
Speaker 4: many times we see families coming together so where they
Speaker 4: might be you know, assigned to different polling places because
Speaker 4: they don't all live, you know, in the same home.
Speaker 4: We see a lot of people sort of making a
Speaker 4: family event and coming together the Early Votes Center, then
Speaker 4: going going out to eat or something like that afterwards,
Speaker 4: or sort of the stories that we that we hear
Speaker 4: and again it's it's extremely convenient. And the hours that
Speaker 4: we have I will note we're open today and tomorrow
Speaker 4: from seven thirty am to seven thirty pm Saturday, eight
Speaker 4: am to four pm. Early voting ends on Sunday, and
Speaker 4: it's the shortest hours we have by state law. We're
Speaker 4: open from one pm to five pm on Sunday, so
Speaker 4: still plenty of time to come on and vote early
Speaker 4: in person at the.
Speaker 2: Board Cherry Poland with all the event of early voting,
Speaker 2: and you know, they're still traditional south there. I don't
Speaker 2: know how young people do that, because you know young people,
Speaker 2: they'll probably mail it in. I mean, if you could
Speaker 2: text your vote in the all over that I would guess.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'd be that way too, I suppose. But how
Speaker 2: is this changing how you tabulate the elections? And normally
Speaker 2: you're sitting around waiting for the results to come in.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the middle of the night when they come.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're voting early, either in person, by
Speaker 2: mail or however, you have those votes and of course
Speaker 2: you have them in hand and you're ready to release
Speaker 2: those results the minute the polls closed. So you got
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff done up front, so to speak.
Speaker 2: How does that changed your job and also when the
Speaker 2: results come out, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: A great question. You know, in the state of Ohio,
Speaker 4: we are permitted election officials are permitted to process those
Speaker 4: vote by mail ballots as soon as they come in.
Speaker 4: You have a handful of states that won't allow the
Speaker 4: election officials to begin those acts of preparation until election warning.
Speaker 4: But in Ohio, we can verify all the information that's
Speaker 4: contained on the envelope ahead of time as soon as
Speaker 4: we receive it. Once we determine that that vote by
Speaker 4: mail ballot is accepted for counting, we remove the ballot.
Speaker 4: It scanned, it's not tabulated, it's scanned, and the cast
Speaker 4: vote record is what we call it is stored. And
Speaker 4: then the ballot is stored in a secure facility here
Speaker 4: at the Ware of Elections. Then on election night, as
Speaker 4: soon as the polls closed at seven point thirty one PM,
Speaker 4: we then hit the tabulate button, so the no ballots
Speaker 4: are counted until the polls closed. But we are permitted
Speaker 4: to do those acts of preparation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, scam, get him ready to go, so that makes
Speaker 2: the results come in here. And that's a big question here,
Speaker 2: Sherry Poland. Is it's not about you know, free and
Speaker 2: open elections and exercising your constitutional right to cast your
Speaker 2: vote one person, one voice, and one vote, as the
Speaker 2: case may be.
Speaker 3: This is not about that.
Speaker 2: This is about Brian Combs, our assistant news director, wants
Speaker 2: to know what time he can go home on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: Tuesday night.
Speaker 4: Again, I don't have a crystal ball that would that
Speaker 4: would tell me that we hope, always hope at one
Speaker 4: hundred to be one hundred percent report before eleven pm,
Speaker 4: you know. And again just to talk a little bit
Speaker 4: more about the election night count and how that works.
Speaker 4: We mentioned the early votes that's early in person and
Speaker 4: by mail are the very first ballots that are tabulated
Speaker 4: and released on election night, and then it's a little
Speaker 4: bit of a waiting game for those ballots to come
Speaker 4: in from the polling places all across Hamilton County. And
Speaker 4: that's because our voting equipment is not connected to the internet.
Speaker 4: In fact, that doesn't they don't even have the capability
Speaker 4: of being connected to the internet. So the physical delivery
Speaker 4: of the ballots and the equipment from the bipartisan poll
Speaker 4: workers to the bipartisan teams at the Board of Elections,
Speaker 4: so it takes a little time for them to come in.
Speaker 4: So we'll usually we have a few early pickup locations
Speaker 4: will actually send teams out from the board so we
Speaker 4: can have some results trickling in early. You know, usually
Speaker 4: between eight thirty and nine, but the majority of those
Speaker 4: ballots arrives at the board around so that's typically when
Speaker 4: we start to see you know, most of the results
Speaker 4: come in between nine thirty and ten thirty, and again
Speaker 4: we always hope to be at one hundred percent, you know,
Speaker 4: before before eleven o'clock. We know it's a long day.
Speaker 4: We know everyone is anxiously awaiting and constantly hitting that
Speaker 4: refresh button. But you know, a latch and officials will
Speaker 4: never trade you know, security and accuracy for speed, So
Speaker 4: I'll just have to be a little bit patient to
Speaker 4: make sure their results coming in are accuracy.
Speaker 2: I know you have last minute preparations. You got to
Speaker 2: go check the tires, make sure the dipstick has oil
Speaker 2: in it. You got to go make sure the voting
Speaker 2: machines everything's ready to go. You're a busy lady. I
Speaker 2: always appreciate it talking to you and enjoy our conversations
Speaker 2: and appreciate what you do for Democracy's an important thing,
Speaker 2: even especially in off years when you have lower turnout
Speaker 2: and probably fewer workers to deal with, et cetera. So
Speaker 2: all the best, Sherry poland thanks again for coming on
Speaker 2: the show. How about a nice quiet Tuesday. Does that
Speaker 2: sound good?
Speaker 4: That sounds wonderful to me.
Speaker 3: It does. You've seen some stuff, yeah, we have.
Speaker 4: But we have a great team here at the Board
Speaker 4: of Election. I cannot praise the staff here and now
Speaker 4: if it's truly a place where Democrats and the Republicans
Speaker 4: come together to do the people's work. So got to
Speaker 4: have a shout out.
Speaker 3: To them all the best.
Speaker 2: Cherry, be well, good luck, Thank you, Sherry poland that
Speaker 2: as you're a director Hamiley County Board of Elections and
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 3: She's great.
Speaker 2: She's just a great personnel, a great person and really
Speaker 2: cares about her job and the integrity of the election
Speaker 2: above all else. So six thirty am Tuesday, if you're
Speaker 2: an in person voter, go get it done. If you
Speaker 2: already did it, like me, just sit back and wait
Speaker 2: for results to come in. And I have no idea
Speaker 2: what to tell Brian Combs. This is all about Colms
Speaker 2: is like, Hey, you're talking to Sherry Paul. Ask her
Speaker 2: when she thinks I can go home. It's all about him.
Speaker 2: You know, this democracy of two hundred and fifty years
Speaker 2: still a long time, and we tabulate the elections and
Speaker 2: sometimes they're contentious, sometimes we fight two thousand comes to mind,
Speaker 2: and basically they're in the ought So we had a
Speaker 2: lot of contentious elections. Along came her voting kind of
Speaker 2: eased the process, made a little bit easier.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like three or four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: There weren't all these challenges and stuff like that, especially
Speaker 2: on off here. We're not going to get that. All
Speaker 2: Brian Combs wants to know, despite all of that history,
Speaker 2: despite it being the cornerstone of our constitution, of our
Speaker 2: whal life here in America, one person, one vote, all
Speaker 2: Brian Combs cares about is what time he can go
Speaker 2: home and have a beer. Scott's Loan Show, seven hundred
Speaker 2: World Slowly seven hundred w welw interesting. Sherry poland director
Speaker 2: Hamlin County Goe just on the show last half hour.
Speaker 3: If you missed, it'll be on the podcast following the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The turnout so far, the projection is right around twenty
Speaker 2: five twenty six percent, which is where we've been in
Speaker 2: previous elections. I'm not that politically savvy to analyze it
Speaker 2: and break it down like Chuck Todd and tell you
Speaker 2: what all that means. And reading the Tea leaves because
Speaker 2: generally even people like that are notoriously wrong about those projections.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that helps or hurts the incumbents,
Speaker 2: and that would be the members of council. But in particular,
Speaker 2: this is going to be somewhat of a referendum on
Speaker 2: AFT have pure vol. Pure Vol most likely is going
Speaker 2: to win. Right, you have incredible amount of funding. You
Speaker 2: have the deep blue Democratic machine of Hamlin County and
Speaker 2: therefore the city Cincinnati even deeper blue because you don't
Speaker 2: have the outlying suburbs. Uh that in the fact you're
Speaker 2: the incumbent. It's kind of an off year. There's not
Speaker 2: really big issues out there. Yeah, maybe to some degree CPS,
Speaker 2: but that's a renewal levee. Uh, nobody's really driving the
Speaker 2: vote out here. Does that help or her to after
Speaker 2: to have pure vol? But not AFT have because I
Speaker 2: think he wins maybe a little closer than he'd like,
Speaker 2: for sure. And it's not an you know, it's certainly
Speaker 2: not an indictment of Corey Bowman in his campaign. I
Speaker 2: THO did a pretty good job, but there's baggage there
Speaker 2: in deep blue Hamlet County. Being the brother of JD.
Speaker 2: Vans and being a Republican. But I think though that
Speaker 2: I would have been around long enough to maybe see
Speaker 2: this is that you wonder though, if the voters aren't
Speaker 2: going to take it out on Counsole. So you have
Speaker 2: twenty six people running for nine seats, something's gonna give,
Speaker 2: And I wonder what council looks like come Wednesday morning
Speaker 2: at that point, or shockingly, what if the same nine
Speaker 2: people or maybe I don't know, one or two change
Speaker 2: the body of Counsole. I don't think you're gonna see
Speaker 2: you know, we'll throw all the bums out kind of mentality,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be interesting. But the turnout, you think,
Speaker 2: with crime being center stage, and I'll have Liz keating
Speaker 2: on it later on the show, actually ten oh seven
Speaker 2: this morning, I'll ask her specifically about what she's seeing
Speaker 2: on the streets, because she's working really hard, seeing a lot.
Speaker 2: She's been really aggressive campaigning, a lot of money behind her,
Speaker 2: a lot of TV ads, a lot of print, a
Speaker 2: lot of social media signage and stuff like that. So
Speaker 2: she's really leaning her shoulder in this wan. I'd be
Speaker 2: surprised if she doesn't win a seat at this point.
Speaker 2: As hard as she's worked and also the track record
Speaker 2: and say what she says about all this stuff. And yesterday,
Speaker 2: of course the drama, the steady direct from city council.
Speaker 2: It's like, people go, why are you still talking? Why
Speaker 2: do you talk about this every day? Because every day
Speaker 2: there's something new. You know, before the day before it
Speaker 2: was well, now the city's hiring a law firm for
Speaker 2: forty to fifty grand to find out why we fired
Speaker 2: Terry Thigi after we fired her what And then yesterday
Speaker 2: it was friends and family members of Terry Thigi wearing
Speaker 2: I Support Chief thig t shirt showing up the council
Speaker 2: and having their saying really going at city council. I
Speaker 2: think there's a thing too for most people, you know,
Speaker 2: average voters, people show up and that probably maybe just
Speaker 2: every four years even for a presidential if that is like,
Speaker 2: don't understand how it all works with council that they
Speaker 2: essentially control the purse strings. But okay, so Afteb's the
Speaker 2: mayor and then you get cheer along the city manager
Speaker 2: and then when they fire Thiji, Afteb says, well that's
Speaker 2: a city manager.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to hit her.
Speaker 2: And then the city manager says well, I can't really
Speaker 2: comment the personnel issue. So you've got all these people
Speaker 2: with just ample amounts of cover, and the mayor will
Speaker 2: blame council, councilill blame the city manager's city manager blames
Speaker 2: the council and it's just there's no accountability there. And
Speaker 2: I think the core of it, that's what's frustrating that
Speaker 2: in the just the dire the horrible lack of communication
Speaker 2: from this administration on help plowing the streets, fixing the potholes.
Speaker 2: You know, they had a what was it in a
Speaker 2: contest for people to come up with ways to let
Speaker 2: the city know where the potholes are? Well, what the
Speaker 2: hell is that? We had the big mac Bridge fire?
Speaker 2: How is that handled poorly? You can't, of course expect
Speaker 2: to have the city streets and now to wash with
Speaker 2: traffic when you close a major artery like that. I
Speaker 2: get that, but it took two weeks before anybody said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we probably should come up with a plan here. And
Speaker 2: I could go on and on about the violence this summer,
Speaker 2: and that's what voters are staring at. We'll find out
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, as they say, and I know that goes
Speaker 2: without saying, but I'm interested see what the fallout is
Speaker 2: from this whole thing, if any, because I'll be honest
Speaker 2: with you, if nothing really changes here and you're in
Speaker 2: the city and you're concerned about this stuff, and just
Speaker 2: vote for these same people you've always voted for, you
Speaker 2: know what, I don't get it. We just had a
Speaker 2: no King's protest and there's a lot of overlap. You Now,
Speaker 2: there are different different beliefs, but there's a lot of
Speaker 2: overlap between what we're talking about with the mayor of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and the President of the United States, And so
Speaker 2: if you're really anti one, I don't know how this
Speaker 2: isn't creep in and go, wow, we've got a leadership
Speaker 2: problem in this country, whether it's Democrats or Republicans for
Speaker 2: that matter, anyway more than that ten oh seven list
Speaker 2: keating Council. I'm looking to get back into council here,
Speaker 2: and we'll get to her coming up in just a
Speaker 2: few here on seven hundred WLW. You don't one of
Speaker 2: my chronic complaints, the bitch and moan factor. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a complaint real, it's observation.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I went to college, my wife went to colle who
Speaker 2: met a college, went to university, did what we're supposed
Speaker 2: to do, because back in the eighties I would not
Speaker 2: particularly bright as you know back then, but you just
Speaker 2: needed like a pulse and a number two pencil, like
Speaker 2: yeah you got those two things. Ah yeah, okay, come
Speaker 2: on and we'll take you today a whole different thing.
Speaker 2: You know, even a I don't under say the great
Speaker 2: point average. Generally a four point is a good perfect.
Speaker 2: Now we've got people with above a four point grade
Speaker 2: point average and still can't get into their core classes
Speaker 2: or a program to study because we have made college
Speaker 2: more important than it should be. And I say that
Speaker 2: not because I think college is a wasted time, waste
Speaker 2: of money. It is for some people. We still need
Speaker 2: people in the stems, and there's still doctors and nurses
Speaker 2: and engineers and mathemagicians and the real fingers out there.
Speaker 2: But the problem is when you allowed the federal government
Speaker 2: to come in and make money off of this through
Speaker 2: federalizing the loans and the whole scam, and I'll call
Speaker 2: it the college scam, where you have people coming in
Speaker 2: not knowing what they're going to do. You know, it
Speaker 2: used to be go in and change your major eleven
Speaker 2: times and you know you have your loan paid off
Speaker 2: in a recentable bond of time. It still took my
Speaker 2: wife and I and we graduated in the early nine
Speaker 2: well late late daies, early nineties, it still took us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't quite ten years, but took us a while
Speaker 2: to pay those loans off. Now more chance do you have.
Speaker 2: And I think that's part of the problem. You know,
Speaker 2: if you go in you're gonna go get a degree
Speaker 2: in medicine or something, but you're still going to get
Speaker 2: like a philosophy degree or archaeology or art history or
Speaker 2: something like that. I mean, why are we still offering
Speaker 2: those majors? And it's not an indictment of one university.
Speaker 3: It's a system. It's the entire system.
Speaker 2: But if you don't think it's about money, it's about
Speaker 2: higher education and the best way I don't know. I
Speaker 2: got a call like it is. So our friends at
Speaker 2: Zavier University have changed how the campus living requirement is.
Speaker 2: So starting fall of next year, if you go to
Speaker 2: X you need to live on campus now for three years.
Speaker 2: And that applies to students ages seventeen to twenty one.
Speaker 2: If you're commuting or living with a parent or Guardian,
Speaker 2: different story, but they're going to force you to stay
Speaker 2: on campus now for an extra year. And unfortunately, students
Speaker 2: are not happy about this because I think the student
Speaker 2: body president said it's the most unpopular policy changed by far,
Speaker 2: because they never asked us. We found about it on
Speaker 2: social media. Let's just and Xavier says, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is not this is not about money. It's this
Speaker 2: is what future students want and families want, and it's uh,
Speaker 2: it pays benefits because we tend to get higher graduation
Speaker 2: rates and there's a sense of community and other school
Speaker 2: but other schools are doing I always hate that other
Speaker 2: schools are doing it, you know, Georgetown and Notre Dame
Speaker 2: are doing it. I'm not quite sure because I'm looking
Speaker 2: at the numbers going off campus rent is according to
Speaker 2: the story, about five fifty a month.
Speaker 3: Right right around that. That's a sweet spot.
Speaker 2: Off campus, and then that's a on campus housing.
Speaker 3: They're getting up to like fifty six hund do per semester.
Speaker 1: So I add that up.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's five to fifty a month, five fifty six
Speaker 2: hundred for semester. But you're still talking, you know, just
Speaker 2: basic math, that's ten times more than rent. But all right,
Speaker 2: so a semesters three fee, Yeah, you know you're still
Speaker 2: paying a quite a high premium here, and you know
Speaker 2: it's between twenty seven hundred and fifty six hundred per semester,
Speaker 2: depending what kind of room you have, versus five fifty
Speaker 2: a month. And that's a substantial price difference right there.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm sorry when when you know you're
Speaker 2: dealing with and Xavier's open about this, dealing with an
Speaker 2: operating budget. They're trying to figure out a new way
Speaker 2: to address the shortfall and the tuition revenue. When it
Speaker 2: starts to go in the other direction, though, what does
Speaker 2: that mean? You've got all these shiny business of these buildings.
Speaker 6: You have.
Speaker 2: Professors and administrators and staff you want to keep home
Speaker 2: and pay them and keep the lights. And there's a
Speaker 2: lot of overhead with this thing. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Now we're going to go going to force students stay
Speaker 2: on campus because I think it's gonna work, It's gonna
Speaker 2: be high retention rates.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm buying that.
Speaker 2: I look at it more pragmatically than that, and go,
Speaker 2: I think it's about money. I think it's about about
Speaker 2: jault wanting to keep that cash because you move off campus.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not living the dorm. I'm living I'm doing
Speaker 2: my and what I went through it. I think at BG,
Speaker 2: when I was in the back in the day, it
Speaker 2: was two years and even. And then I thought that
Speaker 2: first semester, you know, first year school, you're a freshman.
Speaker 2: You don't know what's going on, especially me. I was
Speaker 2: the first one in my family to go, so I
Speaker 2: had no guidance whatsoever. Just kind of is like feral
Speaker 2: and back. But after that first year, you kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got this down. And by the second, like the
Speaker 2: first end of the first semester, second year in the dorm,
Speaker 2: you're like, I, you know, I can't wait to get
Speaker 2: the hell out of here. I can't wait to get
Speaker 2: my own apartment. I can come and go as I please,
Speaker 2: and there's no ra and I could do we can
Speaker 2: you know, you can do beer, you know, get a
Speaker 2: keg and beer bongs and kegstands and smoke weed and
Speaker 2: stuff you can't do anymore because I think they send
Speaker 2: you to guantanamo if you sip a beer under the
Speaker 2: age of twenty one. Nonetheless, that's what we're faced with
Speaker 2: and so that was like, yeah, two three years is
Speaker 2: just there's no reason for that builds a sense of community.
Speaker 2: I you know what, it's four years of my life, okay,
Speaker 2: and I have great I still have friends from college,
Speaker 2: sure that I don't talk to all that often, but
Speaker 2: still friends, and I probably should talk to them more.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like, okay, I build
Speaker 2: that sense of community that was not a dorms. I
Speaker 2: was like extra cricketer kind of stuff. So I look
Speaker 2: at this and go, yeah, it just feels like a
Speaker 2: money grab to me. And I'm kind of with the
Speaker 2: students on that one. And it's tough enough to pay
Speaker 2: for college. I got to pay more because you're forcing
Speaker 2: me at gunpoint to stay on campus.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And maybe because it's a Jesuit private institution, maybe there's
Speaker 2: something there, but I don't. At least at a public school.
Speaker 2: It feels different to me. And we're starting to see,
Speaker 2: you know, as we have few and fewer people. I
Speaker 2: heard a story I forgot where I heard this that
Speaker 2: for the first time ever. I was in news yesterday
Speaker 2: and I forget who was saying it. But the first
Speaker 2: time in our two hundred and fifty years of existence
Speaker 2: as a country. We have more people aged sixty and
Speaker 2: older than people I think it was eighteen and older.
Speaker 2: So you know, we're getting a lot older, agetting a
Speaker 2: lot gray, or is the point, and fewer people going
Speaker 2: to college at least for an extended period of time
Speaker 2: before we start to have more babies or more immigrants
Speaker 2: with kids. Colleges are going to suffer from this, and
Speaker 2: you wonder what that's going to look like with the contraction.
Speaker 2: I would think that, and we're seeing it ready. Some
Speaker 2: colleges simply not gonna be able to survive. And you're
Speaker 2: also going to have to look at quite honestly, and
Speaker 2: they should and should have done this for a long
Speaker 2: time when they're fat and happy. Didn't have to now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden when you're looking for people to
Speaker 2: show up like it was when I was a kid. Right,
Speaker 2: because it's about population trends, you're not gonna have to
Speaker 2: be as selective to go to school. So maybe the
Speaker 2: days of a pulse and number two pencil are back
Speaker 2: in vogue. But it wouldn't be a number two pencil
Speaker 2: because that's old. I guess it would be a I
Speaker 2: don't know, a cell phone and a tablet and a pulse.
Speaker 2: So we're starting to see the effects now of the shutdown.
Speaker 2: I've been talking about this the past few days, and
Speaker 2: the SNAP benefits expiring on Saturday, and you know, the
Speaker 2: political will power standing your ground and Republicans are saying, nope,
Speaker 2: we're not moving on this.
Speaker 3: Democrats say nope, we're not moving on this. In the meantime, the.
Speaker 2: Rest of us, the taxpayers, get screwed because our side
Speaker 2: has to win at all costs. Rather than governing and
Speaker 2: representing us and doing the hard work of governing, it's
Speaker 2: easier to simply draw a line in the sand and
Speaker 2: say we're not going to cross this.
Speaker 3: So for principle, but we're starting.
Speaker 2: To see the effects going from the eater at the
Speaker 2: beginning for the first few weeks of this thing, to
Speaker 2: actual damage or people get hurt anyway, and it would
Speaker 2: be the SNAP people for sure. And now we're starting
Speaker 2: to see those members of the federal workforce and contractors
Speaker 2: that get paid. And now air travel is getting to
Speaker 2: be a problem here, seven thousand flights today, the delayed
Speaker 2: nationwide on Monday. Air traffic controls. I mean, look at
Speaker 2: it this way. If you say what you want about
Speaker 2: federal workers, and when we do, we do need some
Speaker 2: federal workers. We have, for example, right in the listening
Speaker 2: area right in our backyard here our good friends in Dateon,
Speaker 2: which I considered just like you know, we're a big
Speaker 2: radio station. We get a lot of listeners in Dayton
Speaker 2: as well. You got right pat Air Force Base and
Speaker 2: all the businesses around there. All those people suffer because
Speaker 2: people aren't spending money, and that hurts the bottom line,
Speaker 2: That hurts the economy, It hurts working folks. The FAA
Speaker 2: is saying staffing shortages and ground delay programs at Newark,
Speaker 2: close to Cousin to close Austin. Now I see some
Speaker 2: of the big it used to be like the little ones.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, okay, so you know, maybe Louisville has
Speaker 2: a little bit of a problem for a bit. I know,
Speaker 2: Nashal bigger city for sure, but you know, it's not
Speaker 2: affecting the major airports. And now we're starting to see, Okay, Newark,
Speaker 2: which is always jacked up. Newark's the worst headache in America.
Speaker 2: But Dallas, now we're starting to see this. And yeah,
Speaker 2: when you start not paying people because of the shutdown,
Speaker 2: people are saying, well, I'm not going to show up
Speaker 2: to work. Now. You know, if you're an official, you
Speaker 2: have to show up. You just have to do that.
Speaker 2: I don't understand that, Like, wait, wait a minute, a lot.
Speaker 2: I did the job where you don't pay me, and
Speaker 2: you don't pay me for a couple of weeks and
Speaker 2: then you still expect me to show up. What am
Speaker 2: I stupid? What was I born yesterday? I mean I
Speaker 2: might do that for a minute or two, but by
Speaker 2: and large, I think most people are like, yeah, how
Speaker 2: many sick days?
Speaker 3: I got? How many vacation days? Because this is stupid.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I'm ever going to get paid.
Speaker 2: And this is important because we're heading into the fall
Speaker 2: travel season. You're not quite the Thanksgiving yet. We got
Speaker 2: a few weeks that you just wonder how much longer
Speaker 2: it's going to go. It doesn't seem like they have
Speaker 2: the political impasis to get this thing done anytime soon.
Speaker 2: But yeah, once you get into and the reason why
Speaker 2: these things last about thirty days, because then people start
Speaker 2: to really know it's not just the inconvenience of a
Speaker 2: park being shut down, or trash not getting paid or
Speaker 2: a lawn not getting cut now you start to see it.
Speaker 2: You know, the impact be a little bit deeper here.
Speaker 2: And when it comes to the snap benef it's simply
Speaker 2: a freestore food bank. I occurred riber on the show
Speaker 2: on Monday and he had his appeal out there, We're
Speaker 2: gonna have to hand out more meals and we just
Speaker 2: we're gonna try. We're gonna squeeze our venders a little
Speaker 2: bit more and try to get more money and more
Speaker 2: meals out there and more donations.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you consider it.
Speaker 2: Do Nation of the free store food Bank because they
Speaker 2: do great work in like twenty counties in our area.
Speaker 2: But that's not going to be enough to fill the
Speaker 2: void here. It is simply is not going to And
Speaker 2: you know it has to do with up politics and dronaline.
Speaker 2: I get it. You know the ACA is jacked up.
Speaker 2: Should we be using subsidy to pay for healthcare benefits? No,
Speaker 2: it just makes it more expensive. But then have an alternative,
Speaker 2: have a plan. And that's the problem. We shut down
Speaker 2: government and we don't have a plan for fixing why
Speaker 2: we're shutting government down in the first place. So it
Speaker 2: seems to me like you'd want to get back in
Speaker 2: there and actually work the problems instead of pointing the
Speaker 2: finger at the other guy saying it's his, fat, her fault,
Speaker 2: and actually work for the American people, which is the
Speaker 2: problem I have with politics, and a lot of people do.
Speaker 2: It's exhausting and it's painful for a lot of folks,
Speaker 2: for sure. There's just no way around it. You can
Speaker 2: talk about who's getting snapped benefits and the legal aliens,
Speaker 2: and that's all well and good, but the bulk of
Speaker 2: people that are getting those benefits are senior citizens. A
Speaker 2: number of them are veterans, but a lot of them
Speaker 2: are working families where you're working two or more jobs
Speaker 2: and you need that assistance to get by. That's the
Speaker 2: reality of it. So I don't know how this fixes it.
Speaker 2: But you can say they should be getting it, or
Speaker 2: this person should be getting it. That's all well and good.
Speaker 2: That's the system that's set up. And if you don't
Speaker 2: like it, then change the damn system. Do you do
Speaker 2: that by not getting together in meeting? And the answer
Speaker 2: is new It is not five new arrests now made
Speaker 2: in connection with a louver heist. We've got enough going on.
Speaker 2: Had to pay attention without worrying about Paris. But I
Speaker 2: think it's just just a fascinating things. They continue to
Speaker 2: make more and more investigations and by the way, still
Speaker 2: no sign and what they stole, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: Italian enough to go. They melt that stuff down, they
Speaker 2: whacked up the those rocks, and they're they're all around
Speaker 2: the world right now. I want to think that's the case,
Speaker 2: Like that's why they stole the jewels in the first place.
Speaker 2: Instead of artwork. You don't steal the Bona Lisa, you
Speaker 2: steal the crown jewels and it's you know, once you
Speaker 2: start breaking those up, yeah, you know they're worth what
Speaker 2: one hundred and two million dollars with the eight jeels
Speaker 2: as they stole they ate, I guess settings whatever you
Speaker 2: call them things different pieces that they stole, I guess yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be but they're still gonna be worth millions
Speaker 2: of dollars because you're talking about rare gemstones. And now
Speaker 2: they have five people so and now the place are saying, uh,
Speaker 2: it may not be an inside job after all, which
Speaker 2: I think is interesting. It seemed like it would be
Speaker 2: an inside job. But the cameras are turned the wrong
Speaker 2: way and a whole bunch of stuff you know you
Speaker 2: got ladders up against the wall. If somebody didn't know
Speaker 2: something on the inside there, we'll find out. But five
Speaker 2: more rests of this ring. It's certainly as fascinating, that's
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 2: We got weather it's going to rain at least for
Speaker 2: the next few hours here, and then we drive for
Speaker 2: the kiddos on Halloween tomorrow, and got the time change
Speaker 2: happening this weekend and so much more so, it's an
Speaker 2: election coming up on Tuesday. Liz Keating is looking for
Speaker 2: your vote. And she examined she having been on council.
Speaker 2: I guess she's a great person, asked this question. It's
Speaker 2: not about, you know, having her on to promote her
Speaker 2: agenda what she wants to do, which I think is refreshing.
Speaker 2: But this is more about why is some council pushing
Speaker 2: back on the mayor and the city manager?
Speaker 3: Why maybe some answer for us?
Speaker 2: Next Scottsland Show on the Home of the Best Bengals
Speaker 2: coverage seven hundred WWT since then, want.
Speaker 1: To be an American?
Speaker 2: On Thursday morning here seven hundred ww Good news is
Speaker 2: we dry up this afternoon. We dry up this afternoon
Speaker 2: and looks good for trick or treaters tomorrow, right, so
Speaker 2: we care about weekend looks good? Uh So yesterday the
Speaker 2: steady drip and it is literally a soap opera.
Speaker 3: Down at City Hall.
Speaker 2: A couple dozen families and friends of Chief Terry Thiji
Speaker 2: showed up to council wearing I stand with Police Chief
Speaker 2: Thigi t shirts and they pretty much read after a
Speaker 2: pure val sherlong and council the riot Act. So you
Speaker 2: had family members there and obviously they love and care
Speaker 2: about Terry Thiji and demand that she get a fair
Speaker 2: hearing and the city. And the hard part about this
Speaker 2: is like very few people, I say, Seth Walsh, I
Speaker 2: had councilperson and Albion yesterday and she was demure about
Speaker 2: but you know, she's still commented on it. But by
Speaker 2: and large it's been really really quiet down there. Family
Speaker 2: members slam the investigation now, calling into her leadership in
Speaker 2: the question and after the fact that it's political and secretive,
Speaker 2: and they're right about that. But the soap opera continues
Speaker 2: down at City Hall, and one wonders what happens on
Speaker 2: Tuesday on election day. Liz Keating is a former council member.
Speaker 2: She's running yet again, and she has been hitting the
Speaker 2: streets pretty hard. I keep seeing all her campaign I
Speaker 2: think Liz keating by the way, Liz, welcome. I see
Speaker 2: a lot of your ads, and you're spending a lot
Speaker 2: when it comes to getting the message out.
Speaker 8: We are working our tails off. We want to get
Speaker 8: back there and get things back in order in Cincinnati,
Speaker 8: so we are doing everything we can to get back.
Speaker 8: I love this city too much to see it the
Speaker 8: way it is right now.
Speaker 3: You're out campaigning here on the street. What are people saying.
Speaker 8: Everybody is talking about crime. Literally every neighborhood does. No
Speaker 8: matter what neighborhood we are in, people are concerned about
Speaker 8: the crime. They are concerned about basic services and getting
Speaker 8: no response from city hall. And honestly, that's why we're
Speaker 8: running crime and the causes of crime, and get back
Speaker 8: to being able to actually plow snow when it snows,
Speaker 8: and pay the roads and fill the potholes, and get
Speaker 8: rid of the litter, and take care of city property
Speaker 8: so it's not overgrown and full of graffiti, which are
Speaker 8: all things that again attract crimes. You know, just do
Speaker 8: the basics, the fundamentals of local government.
Speaker 2: I noticed that not too long ago, a few weeks ago,
Speaker 2: there was a summit where they had a contest to
Speaker 2: come up with unique ways to let people know that
Speaker 2: the potholes have been filled on.
Speaker 3: It's just another one.
Speaker 2: It's like, the pothole problem has been going on for
Speaker 2: a long time, and it's literally decades of neglect, right
Speaker 2: and we're taking money from the sale of the railroad
Speaker 2: and that's going to go in the streets and paving
Speaker 2: over potholes. But right up in like ninety days before
Speaker 2: the election, all of a sudden, they went gangbusters on
Speaker 2: fixing potholes.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's a coincidence.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's a coincidence. But if you look
Speaker 8: a long term, even the money from the railroad, the
Speaker 8: city has not been able to deploy that money very
Speaker 8: quickly to pave the roads. If you have all this
Speaker 8: money coming in, you need to be prepared. You need
Speaker 8: to be able to get the RFPs out, you need
Speaker 8: to be able to get the contract signed, and you
Speaker 8: need to get the workers on the roads. I mean,
Speaker 8: these are tons of jobs which again one get paychecks
Speaker 8: going home to families to support more families, So that's
Speaker 8: tax revenue right back to the city. And these are
Speaker 8: fundamentals that they cannot get right right now, and there's
Speaker 8: no conversation from Council like where are these special meetings
Speaker 8: being held? Where are the questions? Where are you holding
Speaker 8: the administration accountable? Say, why aren't these dollars getting deployed
Speaker 8: and we've got to hold up and getting these contracts together?
Speaker 8: Then what changes do we need to make legislatively? You're
Speaker 8: just not seeing Council act on these fundamentals. They're just
Speaker 8: not doing their job, and I'm beyond frustrated by it.
Speaker 2: It is telling that so few people are speaking out
Speaker 2: and questioning the administration how they handle the thig thing.
Speaker 2: And it's not just that it's you know, there's no
Speaker 2: crime plan. I have a crime plan, for sure. I
Speaker 2: think it's too little. It's not aggressive enough that you're
Speaker 2: looking at outliers or not the root cause of this thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you go after food trucks instead of
Speaker 2: the criminals, it can continue to ruin our city.
Speaker 3: That's telling.
Speaker 2: You're punishing good business owners and people that just simply
Speaker 2: want to taco at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a bad element that might show up
Speaker 2: and do that, but it's your job to separate the
Speaker 2: bad element from the good element. You know, if I
Speaker 2: go to a club, or I go to a bar,
Speaker 2: or I got a concert, whatever it is, and I
Speaker 2: get out and go damn, I'm hungry.
Speaker 3: Hey there's a food truck, it's midnight or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a cony dog, I'm gonna get a
Speaker 2: slice of pizza, a burger, whatever the hell it is,
Speaker 2: and go home, go to bed, fat and happy and
Speaker 2: entertain Now they're gonna take that away from the good
Speaker 2: people all because it's a very small percentage of people
Speaker 2: causing all this nonsense.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 2: It's the lack of a it's not leaning into the
Speaker 2: resources of the state because the optics that makes it
Speaker 2: look bad. If crime is a problem, you stamp it out,
Speaker 2: You send a message we're not going to tolerate this.
Speaker 2: But the more that the Him and Haw live is
Speaker 2: keeping the worst crime gets because all you're doing is
Speaker 2: enabling that percentage of criminals who are looking to take
Speaker 2: opportunities to the to the to the extreme, and we're
Speaker 2: seeing that constantly.
Speaker 8: Now, you cannot go after small businesses because you've got
Speaker 8: a crime problem. You've got to tackle the root causes
Speaker 8: of it. You've got to be tough on the actual crime.
Speaker 8: You've got to support the police officers and the chief
Speaker 8: and give them room to actually activate. They are the
Speaker 8: expertsus is their profession. You've got to give them room.
Speaker 8: You can't politicize the police department. You can't shut down
Speaker 8: small businesses because you've got a problem. You've got to
Speaker 8: figure out what the real problems are and take care
Speaker 8: of that. Go after the criminals. And again, if we're
Speaker 8: sending a signal thing we are not open for business
Speaker 8: for your small businesses, for these mom and pops, it's
Speaker 8: saying that we don't want paychecks going home to families,
Speaker 8: We don't want to support small families. It is just
Speaker 8: absolutely absurd. And you're not seeing counsel go after this
Speaker 8: in the right way. It took them week to start
Speaker 8: asking questions when they started getting political pressure to do so.
Speaker 8: You need to enact right away. It is not that
Speaker 8: hard to ask these questions and committee and you don't
Speaker 8: have to burn the place down. You can hold administration
Speaker 8: accountable and have a productive debate and get things moving
Speaker 8: in the right direction. And you're not seeing that. You're
Speaker 8: constantly seeing no comment no comment, no comment, no comment.
Speaker 3: Why is that?
Speaker 2: Why are work Quiest Council is so afraid to point
Speaker 2: the dirty end of the stick at AFTAB and sure.
Speaker 8: Along, I think it's because we've got an election right now,
Speaker 8: and that's part of the problem. I want elected officials
Speaker 8: who are willing to face the facts and then start
Speaker 8: tackling the problems. And right now, no one wants to
Speaker 8: talk about the fact. No one wants to talk about
Speaker 8: the problems because they're up for election. When you're in
Speaker 8: an incumbent and things aren't going well, it's the problem.
Speaker 8: But we need elected officials at city Hall who are
Speaker 8: willing to face those facts and get right down to
Speaker 8: business to fix them. You have to be relentless in
Speaker 8: solving problems all the time. You have to be willing
Speaker 8: to accept the fact that things aren't going to go
Speaker 8: right because it's never going to be perfect. We do
Speaker 8: not live in a world where we are where things
Speaker 8: are perfect. You have to have leaders who are willing
Speaker 8: to fight and continue to solve those problems.
Speaker 3: What are they afraid of.
Speaker 8: It's politics. It's politics. They don't want to look bad,
Speaker 8: they don't want to be challenging anybody. They're afraid to
Speaker 8: pick their nose out on stuff, and that doesn't enact get.
Speaker 2: You elected if I mean, I've kind of been that
Speaker 2: guy in my whole life. If you stand up for
Speaker 2: what's right and you have values, you go listen. We're
Speaker 2: not going to tolerate this, this secrecy, this incompetence. We're
Speaker 2: not going to tolerate the indecision. We want answers. I thought, yes,
Speaker 2: counsel this week, they did a great job poking the
Speaker 2: bear when it came to the food truck thing, saying well,
Speaker 2: this is stupid. There's no evidence that this is encouraging crime,
Speaker 2: and they really push back on it. Why can't you
Speaker 2: do that when with Chief Thiji or crime or whatever
Speaker 2: it is. I just I don't know. It's politics. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but how does that cost you anything? By doing what
Speaker 2: people sent you to city Hall to do?
Speaker 8: It doesn't cost you anything, no what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 8: But I mean, it took weeks to hear from them
Speaker 8: on food trucks. The food trucks were shut down. Administration
Speaker 8: made that what was it like a month ago? And
Speaker 8: it took this long and this many news stories and
Speaker 8: this much political pressure to actually get something out of it.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's insane. This is not how we need
Speaker 8: to be operating as a city. We need much better
Speaker 8: leadership down there, and we need people who are not
Speaker 8: afraid to ask the tough questions and hold administration accountable.
Speaker 8: And that's what I did before, and that's what I
Speaker 8: want to go back and do again.
Speaker 2: Liz Keating on that the accountability thing strikes me that I,
Speaker 2: as a citizen, someone to pays attention to this stuff.
Speaker 2: And I can't imagine how citizen feels. You've almost got
Speaker 2: You've got these enemies, You've got AFTAB, puer Vault, you've
Speaker 2: got share Along, the city manager, and you got counsul
Speaker 2: No one knows who reports to, who who is responsible.
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of cover, there's excuse making, there's no
Speaker 2: accountability because AFTAB goes, Well the chief got fired. No,
Speaker 2: that was share along and share along. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't have a comment because it's a personnel issue.
Speaker 2: Well what about console don't they have? We don't because
Speaker 2: it's the mayor. Well, the mayor says it's a city manager.
Speaker 2: The city manager says it's council. Council says it's a
Speaker 2: city manager, who then points the finger at city Council
Speaker 2: and the mayor's who's running the show.
Speaker 8: You know what, Council votes on city dollars. They vote
Speaker 8: on the spending, they appropriate the money. It takes two
Speaker 8: members of council to call a special session. They easily
Speaker 8: could have called a special session and say, hey, we
Speaker 8: are not going to pay for the switch hunt. We
Speaker 8: are not going to make taxpayers space spend fifty thousand
Speaker 8: dollars to hire an outside firm to investigate to try
Speaker 8: to find a reason to fire somebody after you've already
Speaker 8: asked them to resign, after you've tried to start this.
Speaker 8: Council can step in and do this because they have
Speaker 8: the power to do so, and they have done nothing.
Speaker 8: They have done absolutely nothing, and so many of them
Speaker 8: for the first week or two we're constantly saying no comment,
Speaker 8: no comment, no comment, and again like just exactly what
Speaker 8: you're saying, pointing fingers. This is council's responsibility, Council's job.
Speaker 8: They are in charge of spending, they vote on the spending.
Speaker 8: They can shut this down immediately, and they have it.
Speaker 2: Former council member Liz Keening is running yet again, one
Speaker 2: of the twenty six that seek your vote on Tuesday
Speaker 2: or perhaps earlier here too, and we definitely need some
Speaker 2: new blood in city council. There's no question somebody's going
Speaker 2: to hold folks accountable rather than just you know. I
Speaker 2: illustrated this before last weekend. Last two weekends ago, we
Speaker 2: had the No King's rally. It's all about Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: a bunch of people with different grievances, and granted, Trump
Speaker 2: brings out grievances and people, for sure, even Republicans totally
Speaker 2: understand that that's part of his nature. Maybe also part
Speaker 2: of his attraction. I'm not quite sure. But all these
Speaker 2: aggrieved people showing up with different causes and the one
Speaker 2: thing in common is Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: But no kings. He's a king. He's a king.
Speaker 2: I don't know, when you talk about cronyism, when you
Speaker 2: talk about no accountability, when you talk about ignoring problems
Speaker 2: and focusing other things, how many of those people are
Speaker 2: going to turn around and vote for the exact same
Speaker 2: thing they protested against two weeks ago in.
Speaker 3: After pierreval I hope not.
Speaker 8: I hope people do not continue to vote all one ticket,
Speaker 8: all one party.
Speaker 3: God will, but they will.
Speaker 8: Candidates you have to, you have to look at it.
Speaker 8: If people want the same thing that they've gotten, then
Speaker 8: go for it. But I think Cincinnati deserves so much better.
Speaker 8: They deserve so much better. And that's why I'm running,
Speaker 8: because I am sick and tired of seeing what's going
Speaker 8: on down there, and I think Cincinnati deserves better. And
Speaker 8: I'm going to go back and fight and actually do
Speaker 8: the job that I was elected to do before. And
Speaker 8: I plan on being elected again and go back and
Speaker 8: do that again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, back to know there's
Speaker 2: there's no plan, and it is a plan, but it's feckless.
Speaker 2: The plan it doesn't have enough tooth. The plan doesn't
Speaker 2: have enough bite. You don't want to execute. You don't
Speaker 2: want to you're afraid you're gonna upset people like maybe
Speaker 2: Iris Rawley that I don't understand. But I think even
Speaker 2: bigger than that, and the real issue I have, and
Speaker 2: if I were to maybe articulate a little bit better
Speaker 2: when it comes to you know, sure along and after
Speaker 2: a Periodal and Council and everyone's pointing the finger at
Speaker 2: everybody else is the lack of communication from the administration.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's go back. We were talking about potholes.
Speaker 2: But what about snowfall, right, how many streets weren't plowed
Speaker 2: and that took weeks later or finally they'd admitted we're
Speaker 2: not going to plow every street in Cincinnati. O up,
Speaker 2: just a second. I pay property taxes. I'm paying my taxes.
Speaker 2: Those taxes fund snow removal. Now you're telling me I
Speaker 2: don't get an essential city service because you decided to
Speaker 2: do something else with the money. Makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 2: That's Malfeason's big mac Bridge fire. That thing happened. We
Speaker 2: had traffic gridlocked downtown for a couple of weeks before
Speaker 2: council and the mayor even acknowledged that we had that
Speaker 2: problem in the first place. I don't expect the city
Speaker 2: streets to be fine after you close one a major bridge,
Speaker 2: a major thoroughfare, But there was no communication on that.
Speaker 2: People were one Achille. I'm surprised we don't have a
Speaker 2: fatal road rage incident over that. Get some cops, get
Speaker 2: some people down, Get I don't get pull some ambassador
Speaker 2: off the Fountain Square had people direct traffic during.
Speaker 3: Rush How they didn't do that.
Speaker 2: The Patrick Herringer thing as another fumble summer slam where
Speaker 2: we've got a beatdown going viral across the world in
Speaker 2: downtown Cincinnati, and the mayor decides to go on vacation
Speaker 2: the day after this thing goes viral and then not
Speaker 2: be around and then just have the city manager and
Speaker 2: the chief talk about it. Then the chief thiji incident.
Speaker 2: It's a steady pattern of incompetence due to a lack
Speaker 2: of communication.
Speaker 3: That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what's going on down there, and when they
Speaker 2: respond to something, either they don't respond and simply ignore
Speaker 2: it because it doesn't make them look good, or they
Speaker 2: wait too damn long to have response to it.
Speaker 3: That's a fair criticism of AFTAB and sure.
Speaker 8: Along and city Council and city council. You are not
Speaker 8: hearing from council members. Their job is constituent affairs. They
Speaker 8: should be responding to the community when people are reaching out.
Speaker 8: You talked about this now storm. I had schools to
Speaker 8: reach out because the streets haven't been plouned in schools
Speaker 8: can't open to get the kids back in school for days,
Speaker 8: and they heard nothing back from city Hall. We heard
Speaker 8: from residents. They came back and said there were over
Speaker 8: six hundred streets that hadn't even been touched six hundred
Speaker 8: streets and the City of Society hadn't even been touched,
Speaker 8: and no one knew, and no one at city Hall
Speaker 8: was calling these residents back when they're asking when they're
Speaker 8: finally going to get their streets cleared. There are so
Speaker 8: many incidents where residents are calling their council members, reaching
Speaker 8: out to their council members to get help, whether it's
Speaker 8: trash pick up, or there's litter everywhere or been no
Speaker 8: legal jumping. They need their streets close that they can
Speaker 8: get back to work, and no one calls them back.
Speaker 8: And that's so for the last nearly two years, since
Speaker 8: I have been just a regular citizen, I am still
Speaker 8: fielding calls from resident because they are trying to get
Speaker 8: help because our elected officials and city council they are
Speaker 8: not doing their job and solving the problems that they
Speaker 8: were elected to solve, and so it takes a resident.
Speaker 8: And that's why I'm getting back in this because you've
Speaker 8: got to go back. You have to be responsive to
Speaker 8: the community. You have to be able to take care
Speaker 8: of these basic services. And if we are not taking
Speaker 8: care of the basics, we are going to fail out
Speaker 8: the big things which we have seen when it comes
Speaker 8: to crime and tackling crime and the way that we've
Speaker 8: handled these massive stories whereas a lot of people are
Speaker 8: freaked out and a lot of things are going on,
Speaker 8: things crumble. If you can't take care of the basics,
Speaker 8: if you can't fill that foundation, you're going to have
Speaker 8: a big problem later and we've seen that play out
Speaker 8: now least you have to have council members or responses
Speaker 8: lis Keating.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, council essentially controls the purse strings. They legislate,
Speaker 2: they make rules to make laws and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Does there need to be some clarity and what the
Speaker 2: city manager does and what the mayor does because as
Speaker 2: a taxpayer, if I'm a taxpayer, I have no idea
Speaker 2: how that works. I think most people don't really follow
Speaker 2: the intricacies of it. But there's also a problem there
Speaker 2: if you have a strong mayor and you've got to
Speaker 2: start council and you've got a city manager involved, it
Speaker 2: seems like everyone there's built in cover for incompetency and mistakes.
Speaker 2: Is that like, well, I can point the finger at
Speaker 2: the city manager or I can Hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm going to pull the pin out of the grenade.
Speaker 3: And fire the chief.
Speaker 2: Even though the chief is the one taking the orders
Speaker 2: from the mayor and the city manager city, she doesn't
Speaker 2: dictate what the policy, what the focus is. When she
Speaker 2: got hired, I bring this up because it's documented. She said,
Speaker 2: listen the big issue here, and I talked to people
Speaker 2: by the interview with Iris Rawleigh, for example, and keep
Speaker 2: the collaborative agreement going. Okay, that's good, but I think
Speaker 2: we've taken such kid gloves hands towards criminals and treat
Speaker 2: them like victims when we victimize the victims even more
Speaker 2: if that kind of makes sense. In fact, that Terry
Speaker 2: TJ now is just falling on the sword because of
Speaker 2: what we talked about. I think there's got to be
Speaker 2: I know it's a city charter issue. I know it's
Speaker 2: deeper than just this conversation, but damn it, you've got
Speaker 2: you've got too many people who are allegedly making decisions.
Speaker 2: Do we need a city manager for the mayor and
Speaker 2: what roles we may need to carve those roles out
Speaker 2: a little bit more simply to avoid things like this
Speaker 2: where we know what you're in charge of, what you're
Speaker 2: going to do.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: The no common thing is wearing thin for a lot
Speaker 2: of people, myself included.
Speaker 8: I couldn't agree more. But this is where you have
Speaker 8: to have elected officials on Sincinni City councils that know
Speaker 8: their role. Right now, we are seeing council members who
Speaker 8: are not acting in their role. They are they are
Speaker 8: just they're saying, no comment, It's okay, it's not our job.
Speaker 8: It's or is that problem? That problem? That problem city
Speaker 8: councils is. You've got to think of them as the board.
Speaker 8: They do control the first strings. They can shut down
Speaker 8: spending on things anytime, they can pass legislation. They can
Speaker 8: put in motions to guide the administration in a different direction.
Speaker 8: If they're not happy with it, they can call special
Speaker 8: meetings and actually ask questions, ask questions of administration and
Speaker 8: to at least let the public better understand what's going on.
Speaker 8: Their job is to hold administration accountable. Their job is
Speaker 8: to make sure that the tax dollars are being spent
Speaker 8: in smart and efficient ways. They are in charge of
Speaker 8: making sure that government is running smoothly, and you're not
Speaker 8: seeing that at all. And that's why it's important to
Speaker 8: have experience down there and people who are willing to
Speaker 8: do the full job that they were elected to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally understandable. And I know a number of member
Speaker 2: of councils. A number of people come on the show
Speaker 2: quite frequently on a regular basis, and I hate to
Speaker 2: see good people and I think they're good wind up
Speaker 2: losing their job over But there's got it. I would
Speaker 2: think Tuesday, there's going to be a political price to pay.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be may or aft have pure
Speaker 2: of all. He's gonna win reelection for sure, but there's
Speaker 2: council people are going to be out of a seat.
Speaker 2: I think because of this whole thing you feel that.
Speaker 8: I feel that this campaign has been a completely different
Speaker 8: vibe than I've ever seen and heard before. People are
Speaker 8: angry and that's not the kind of thing that I
Speaker 8: want to live in. I don't want to live in
Speaker 8: a city where people are frustrated, people aren't getting the
Speaker 8: services that we need. We can do so so much better,
Speaker 8: and that's why we're working our tails off to get
Speaker 8: back down there and get the city back in order.
Speaker 2: Well, if you don't demand accountability with your vote, you're
Speaker 2: going to get more of the same or worse, because
Speaker 2: it's going to encourage more of the same misbehavior.
Speaker 3: That is what's going to happen. To look at the
Speaker 3: Terry Fiji thing.
Speaker 2: We're going to fire her and then hire for forty
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars a law firm to find out where
Speaker 2: we fired her in the first place.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 8: I mean, do you want your text bit your tax
Speaker 8: dollars being spent that way?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't. And where where is counsel asking this question?
Speaker 8: Where is council shutting this down?
Speaker 3: No, they're not.
Speaker 8: Where is council call even talking about this in committee meetings?
Speaker 8: They're calling a special meeting. This is not take care
Speaker 8: of the taxpayer dollars. There are so many things that
Speaker 8: that money could go to that will be far more
Speaker 8: effective in positive impacts on our neighborhood then spending it
Speaker 8: on a witch hunt as an afterthought.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll find out what happens on Tuesday. I'm interested
Speaker 2: like anyone else. I got the popcorn to see what happens.
Speaker 2: I wish all the best.
Speaker 3: Liz.
Speaker 2: Love talking to you, and I think your ideas are sound.
Speaker 2: Good luck on Tuesday, right, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8: Make sure you get out your vote Cincinnati, all.
Speaker 2: Right, six thirty am Tuesday, polls open, Liz Keating looking
Speaker 2: for your vote, among many others as well. I've been
Speaker 2: members of council on to kind of, you know, want
Speaker 2: to maybe off the record say these things, but are afraid,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, to poke the bear that is AFTAP
Speaker 2: peer ball in administration ont way to carry so much juice. Look,
Speaker 2: everyone who makes mistakes, I understand that, but man, I
Speaker 2: just ran up a litany of problems just in the
Speaker 2: last several months, not even a year, and there's probably
Speaker 2: many more I'm missing as well. There's got to be
Speaker 2: someone sending a message saying this will not be tolerated.
Speaker 2: We'll find out Tuesday. Sloaney seven hundred W got folling
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Speaker 2: this morning. I'm the big one seven hundred W. You're
Speaker 2: talking about fitness and health and food and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: And Sanjay shave Crimani's on the show emergency medicine physician,
Speaker 2: but also he's at Dine Well Dock Health Fitness and
Speaker 2: medicine guy. I think that we got to come up
Speaker 2: with a like the brand here.
Speaker 9: The Yeah, the problem is the brand keeps expanding more
Speaker 9: and more and I can't get focused.
Speaker 1: But that'll come in time.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So as an ear doc, before we get to the
Speaker 2: topic at hand, which is the flu, and people already going, no,
Speaker 2: I don't need to hear about it. You just hit
Speaker 2: the brakes for a second because you don't want the flu.
Speaker 3: The flu.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, I don't feel well. It's it's now,
Speaker 2: you know when you get the flu, it's a week.
Speaker 3: Right. We'll get to that just in the second.
Speaker 2: But first, as an eart doc, we have Halloween happening
Speaker 2: on tomorrow as a matter of fact, So a little
Speaker 2: trick or traders up. When you work a shift in
Speaker 2: the er in the emergency department, what do you wind
Speaker 2: up to see?
Speaker 3: What do you see?
Speaker 2: Who presents with what on Friday and Saturday. So it's
Speaker 2: it's a lot of things that you can imagine. But
Speaker 2: I'll tell you my my funniest because this is going
Speaker 2: to avoid it's like all my kid and what you
Speaker 2: typically see. Go okay, I won't do that so I
Speaker 2: don't end up as a patient.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean I'll tell you so, And it's
Speaker 9: it's all razor blades and can't I'm just kidding. It's
Speaker 9: it's clearly an urban myth, right, But I've never seen
Speaker 9: anything like that. I've never seen like poisoning. It's it's
Speaker 9: stuff you wouldn't expect. So, like, the most number, according
Speaker 9: to a large study, was pumpkin carving accidents. And you
Speaker 9: would never think about it, but you know that may
Speaker 9: not be on the night of trick or treating, but
Speaker 9: around it, and it tends to be the kids that
Speaker 9: are playing around with sharp objects. Never a good combination,
Speaker 9: and so trick or treating is the second part. But
Speaker 9: it's actually pumpkin carving the most interesting. Yeah, and I've
Speaker 9: seen a couple of hand injuries from that, but never
Speaker 9: on Halloween night itself, because.
Speaker 1: People are already you know, done the damage.
Speaker 2: You see like fractures and dislocations because kids are running
Speaker 2: to get the next house, trip over the sidewalk.
Speaker 3: Fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely see the falls.
Speaker 9: And the problem is, you know, it's it's nighttime, and
Speaker 9: then they're wearing these costumes that might be a little
Speaker 9: bit long, but then they have masks or whatever covering
Speaker 9: their face, so their peripheral vision isn't good and so
Speaker 9: you do see the falls. It can get pretty nasty
Speaker 9: at times, but yeah, I haven't seen anything terrible on Halloween.
Speaker 9: It ends up being kind of entertaining because everyone's coming
Speaker 9: in with their costumes on. Yeah, that's it's it's a
Speaker 9: bunch of stories.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Pumpkin carving, fall, trips, falls, occasionally, motor vehicle act and
Speaker 2: probably as well adults. I'm guessing more alcohol related.
Speaker 9: You got it so unfortunately, and the alcohol gets behind
Speaker 9: the wheel sometimes and that combined with darkness and kids
Speaker 9: in costumes is a bad combination. So yeah, we do
Speaker 9: see some increase of pedestrians struck on on Halloween.
Speaker 3: Gotcha sign?
Speaker 2: And okay, alcohol related incidents and I'm sure costume related.
Speaker 2: Any costume related self strangulation, anything like that.
Speaker 9: Decapitation Fortunately, no decapitation yet. No, we don't see any
Speaker 9: anything crazy like that. Things do happen weird things with costumes,
Speaker 9: but for the most part, no, Again, the costumes end
Speaker 9: up being kind of funny at times, especially when they
Speaker 9: show up in them.
Speaker 2: I got a guillotine costume I was walking around is
Speaker 2: actually you don't actually use a.
Speaker 9: Real guillotine for that. It's that's not a good I
Speaker 9: will tell you though, when it comes to costumes. Remember
Speaker 9: if you're gonna get really tipsy and spending a hire
Speaker 9: night in the emergency department sobering up in your costume,
Speaker 9: remember that the Walk of Shame on November one is
Speaker 9: not a fun one to take in a costume.
Speaker 2: Especially if you got It's seriously, you got discharged like
Speaker 2: two weeks later. Oh yeah, it's like yeah, and now
Speaker 2: you have to wear a Halloween costume. Yeah, your whole
Speaker 2: chicken suit.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you brought up the myth because I've
Speaker 2: been on this for years, for decades. Sanjay is the
Speaker 2: whole And you were around long when they used to
Speaker 2: bring your candy to the hospital and we'll x ray
Speaker 2: it for you were like, no one is putting needles
Speaker 2: and razor blades and can't. It's just that it may
Speaker 2: be an industrial act and there may be a couple,
Speaker 2: I know, one offs with really crazy people in the world.
Speaker 2: I can't say it doesn't happen. But the idea that
Speaker 2: you have to x ray your candy, it's all you
Speaker 2: know what it is. It's big mom and dad? Is
Speaker 2: what is the industry? A big mom and dad? Because
Speaker 2: all it's kind of funny, how like when my kids
Speaker 2: were little, all the Snickers had a razor blade in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a reason for me to steal their candy.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is this is how the parents enjoy Halloween too,
Speaker 9: is just by scaring their children, as if there's not
Speaker 9: enough scares going on in Halloween already.
Speaker 3: Can I have a sugar overdose? Is that possible? Can
Speaker 3: I overdose?
Speaker 9: Can you like like a classic overdose? Can you feel
Speaker 9: like crap after eating a bunch of sugar? Absolutely? Yes,
Speaker 9: we all get that. But uh no, Halloween is the
Speaker 9: time to eat a decent amount of candy and find
Speaker 9: out where your limits are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my problem is. I'm like, I'm like a
Speaker 2: wild dog. I'm like a rabit dog. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: eat it all. Like we get the big Costco candy
Speaker 2: and I'll pick through them, Like Michelle, quit buying all
Speaker 2: that Costco candy.
Speaker 3: Well, we don't know how many kids. It's a new house.
Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, we'll buy one bag and when it's gone,
Speaker 2: the light goes off next it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, stop doing this to me. But then there's no
Speaker 9: leftover Halloween candy. And that's why we love Halloween as
Speaker 9: adults is freaking controls my problem. No, I just can't
Speaker 9: say you're not alonee.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So that's Halloween. Let's talk about cold and flu season.
Speaker 2: I uh, five days ago got my received my vaccine
Speaker 2: for it. Went to my local right eight or no,
Speaker 2: right eight. I went to right age no more? Is
Speaker 2: it Walgreens or I don't save it. I think with
Speaker 2: CBS actually rolled it up. Got my shots all good.
Speaker 2: I do that every year, and I'm a proponent of
Speaker 2: the flu vaccine. A few folks in the hospital get it.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that's probably a pretty good thing to get.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I you know, it's interesting. In training, I it
Speaker 9: was a optional thing. So you know, this is twenty
Speaker 9: years ago. The flu shot was optional and I got
Speaker 9: the flu my fourth year of residency, and so I
Speaker 9: have never looked back. I I get it every year
Speaker 9: since then because I just felt like trash for a
Speaker 9: solid week. As a week I was laid up pretty good.
Speaker 9: And so I get it myself every year. Yes, because
Speaker 9: it's mandatory now, but happily.
Speaker 2: I've gotten it for years and I think last year
Speaker 2: I actually still wound up contracting flu and I was sick.
Speaker 2: I was like three days, I felt really bad past
Speaker 2: the point and we'll get into you know what that
Speaker 2: diagnosis is. But I think I got Simpsons that wasn't
Speaker 2: and I felt like, like crap. I think for four
Speaker 2: five six A and i'd like last for like the
Speaker 2: effects last for two weeks after almost a month after,
Speaker 2: and I thought, wow, if I got that with the vaccine,
Speaker 2: what would have happened to me if I hadn't had
Speaker 2: the vaccine?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so the you know, people say, well I still
Speaker 9: got the flu despite getting the flu shot, And it's true,
Speaker 9: it reduces cases of flu by only fifty percent, so
Speaker 9: one out of every two times you're still going to
Speaker 9: get the flu. But it's obviously much more effective in
Speaker 9: preventing it. But then when you get it, it decreases
Speaker 9: the duration for like two to three days, and so
Speaker 9: your symptoms aren't as bad, they don't last as long. Yes,
Speaker 9: you might still get the flu, but it's better than
Speaker 9: not having it, you know, having a shot.
Speaker 3: And tan I think we look at it raw incorrectly.
Speaker 2: You hear people is like, well I got the flu
Speaker 2: shot and I still got the flu, So it doesn't
Speaker 2: it doesn't work well it does work, it's just not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent accurate. It's not going you know, boiling
Speaker 2: water for ten minutes will kill the bacteria. That's science, right,
Speaker 2: You're going to do that. It's it's still a crab.
Speaker 2: It's still a fifty to fifty shot. But if you
Speaker 2: get it, if you get the exact the symptoms ready less.
Speaker 2: And my point is like, well, god, I still got
Speaker 2: the flow. I'm not going to get a shot this year. No,
Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to my shot because as sick as
Speaker 2: I was last year, I could I probably go into
Speaker 2: the hospital.
Speaker 9: It could have been worse, it could have been a
Speaker 9: lot worse. And especially if you you know, very young,
Speaker 9: very old, those are the people that definitely need it
Speaker 9: because you know, the hospitalizations come mainly from the patients
Speaker 9: that are not vaccinated, and so the sickest of the
Speaker 9: sick are unvaccinated against the flu. So if you do
Speaker 9: fall into those categories, or your immune system just isn't
Speaker 9: good at baseline, yeah, definitely think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I look think it pretty healthy. I'm like
Speaker 2: that that really hit me. But then you hear like
Speaker 2: I was sick, I was sick yesterday, And back to
Speaker 2: that because I had the flu. It's like, that's not
Speaker 2: the flu, right, it's gastrointertis. It's it could be a
Speaker 2: bunch of stomach flu is, gastinotis.
Speaker 3: It's not that.
Speaker 2: It's when you know, the diff's in a cold, irregular
Speaker 2: sickness and the flu is what.
Speaker 9: So mainly it's how you present. It's the severity. So
Speaker 9: you're going to have higher fevers with the flu. Typically
Speaker 9: you're going to have body aches, You're going to feel
Speaker 9: like a truck hit you. Yeah, this whole quote stomach
Speaker 9: flu thing is usually a different virus that just affects
Speaker 9: your your GI tract. But it's going to be the aches,
Speaker 9: it's going to be the high fevers. You're going to
Speaker 9: have a headache usually and just overall feel like not
Speaker 9: doing anything. Yeah, kids, especially vomiting Diarrhye are right, they
Speaker 9: can have everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Kids, kids will present however they want.
Speaker 2: Done, and four and forty eight hours are good exactly.
Speaker 9: They bounce back and they're like mom, Dad, play with me,
Speaker 9: and they're like not for another two weeks, thank you
Speaker 9: very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why does it seem like that lingers when you're
Speaker 2: sick And I don't know if it's the effects of
Speaker 2: that last for it feels like a month where you're
Speaker 2: still dichnically breathing your hacking stuff up. What in the
Speaker 2: older we get it's worse.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So the it's the post residual kind of cough.
Speaker 9: So after you get sick, the virus that's wreaking its
Speaker 9: havoc for like a week or so. Then it goes away,
Speaker 9: but you've got all this crud left in your air
Speaker 9: wings and your you know, in your windpipe, in your
Speaker 9: in your lungs, and that stuff still has to come up.
Speaker 9: So actually it's like three to eight weeks after a cold,
Speaker 9: you can still expect to have some sort of cough.
Speaker 9: And yes, it gets a little bit worse when we
Speaker 9: get older because we're not as good as coughing when
Speaker 9: we get older, can't clear that stuff, so aile that
Speaker 9: inflammation is left. We keep coughing, and you know it
Speaker 9: bothers everyone around you because it's three to eight weeks later,
Speaker 9: but you're no longer.
Speaker 1: Contagious, it's just you're you're hacking up along still.
Speaker 2: Fine, is there anything you can do to speed the
Speaker 2: process up?
Speaker 9: So yes, early on there's a lot of stuff sold
Speaker 9: out there right, like, right, do you take anything song.
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in vitamin supplements, that kind of
Speaker 2: thing ahead of time. I tried the zinc before when
Speaker 2: I feel it coming on and I want to find
Speaker 2: notice this place ebo or not, but it feels like
Speaker 2: that might help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you nailed it.
Speaker 9: So zinc is literally the only thing that's even shown
Speaker 9: to have maybe some effects. Zinc seventy five milligrams to
Speaker 9: one hundred milligrams a day, you know, broken up is
Speaker 9: the only thing that's shown to decrease the risk of
Speaker 9: getting a bad virus or at least decreasing the symptoms
Speaker 9: you have.
Speaker 1: That has to be in lozenge form.
Speaker 6: Though.
Speaker 9: That nasal spray is actually no good, so avoid that
Speaker 9: because actually you can cause harm. It can you know,
Speaker 9: affect the way you smell permanently. Oh yeah, so the
Speaker 9: zinc lozenges is what you're looking for.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 9: Those can be pretty rough on the stomach though, because
Speaker 9: it's a heavy metal. You're literally eating a metal it's
Speaker 9: gutters exactly. Yeah, what we do every week, gun a gun.
Speaker 9: But the zinc can be tough on the stomach, but
Speaker 9: it is has been shown to have some effects. The
Speaker 9: rest of the supplements not so much.
Speaker 3: Why does the zinc work? What's it do? Uh?
Speaker 9: You know, that's a great question. So I think they're
Speaker 9: still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2: But you know, so what I heard, by the way,
Speaker 2: it's son Jay Shiva Cramani. He's an emergency room physician.
Speaker 2: Balls are a health guy in Scotsland show seven hundred double,
Speaker 2: always going to pop it on Thursdays.
Speaker 3: And it could be you know, working out.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that a little bit, and you know,
Speaker 2: neutrons and dieting and GLP injections and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But today we're talking about well, Halloween crazy stuff. You've
Speaker 2: seen in the hour Halloween carving pumpkins number one and
Speaker 2: number two is kids running with their mask on and
Speaker 2: tripping and falling and break in and are Number three
Speaker 2: is people emulating themselves because they decided they were going to,
Speaker 2: I don't know, go as human torch.
Speaker 3: But that's that's kind of Darwin there. That's a different thing.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the flu vaccine and so the zinc
Speaker 2: ase I understood it, there's something that it coats the
Speaker 2: throat and so typically if you ingest if I don't
Speaker 2: know why it's being swallowing because I think your stomach
Speaker 2: acid would kill this. But when you ingest, the virus
Speaker 2: basically slops off down your throat and the zinc allows
Speaker 2: that to occur, or maybe it kills that something like that.
Speaker 1: Right, it's something like that.
Speaker 9: It also boosts the immune system in general when our
Speaker 9: immune systems are worse in the winter.
Speaker 1: That's been shown too. So you know what help we
Speaker 1: can get.
Speaker 9: So those people that are like well, I say vitamin
Speaker 9: C and it works for me. You know, if it
Speaker 9: if it helps, you go for it. As long as
Speaker 9: you're not harming yourself. I'm cool with that too. But yeah,
Speaker 9: the zinc does seem to have some effect, a little
Speaker 9: bit of an effect. Okay, good, that's good to know.
Speaker 9: But by and large, it's like you've got it. Hydrate,
Speaker 9: that's all in rest. That's all you can do.
Speaker 1: Hydrate.
Speaker 6: Rest.
Speaker 1: And yeah.
Speaker 9: The other thing is, you know, the annoying cough is
Speaker 9: another thing. There is no magic bullet for cough. People
Speaker 9: always come in like four weeks later. If actually this
Speaker 9: last week, I've seen a ton of patients with this
Speaker 9: lingering cough. So I don't know what's going on out there.
Speaker 9: It's not flu it's not COVID right now, it's not RSV.
Speaker 9: But there's so many crud, Cincinnati crud's going around and
Speaker 9: it's leaving people with this like prolonged cough, and unfortunately
Speaker 9: there's nothing I can prescribe that will make it go away.
Speaker 9: Honey has been shown as long as you're older than
Speaker 9: one year old, honey can help the cough. Hydration also
Speaker 9: helps because it decreases that dryness which actually triggers a cough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially this time you're a hydrate is very
Speaker 2: important because you're inside the dry air. It's gonna hasting
Speaker 2: that that whole disease pass to whether it's that or
Speaker 2: something else. Yeah, that's interesting that there's nothing really can do.
Speaker 2: I mean the cough lingers. There's some over the counters.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get a script for it, but it's basically
Speaker 2: over the counter stuff. We all want to get that done.
Speaker 2: It's like, I think, so after four weeks you're like
Speaker 2: my guy, three weeks you're thinking, Okay, there's something bad
Speaker 2: going on here, right, that's when you should.
Speaker 3: Well for four weeks.
Speaker 9: Yes, though, if it's not getting worse, you know it's
Speaker 9: not to worry about. Or if you're not having trouble
Speaker 9: breathing or chest pains or anything like that. If you
Speaker 9: are having something like that, worry if it's more than
Speaker 9: like eight weeks, which I know sounds like forever. And
Speaker 9: it is forever to have a cough right because your
Speaker 9: sleep is bad, everything's bad. Everyone's annoyed at you because
Speaker 9: all you're doing is coughing. You want to get it
Speaker 9: taken care of, but usually it's like eight weeks later.
Speaker 9: But you know, there are medicines that might be able
Speaker 9: to help at that point, but there's no magic bullet of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like some of the dm as stand, it's gonna
Speaker 3: take care of it.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because like my mom, for example, growing up,
Speaker 2: it was like, wow, he's got to this fluke taking
Speaker 2: the doctor and heahim, get himself, get him on something, get
Speaker 2: him on the head. Anti viral, you don't want to.
Speaker 2: There's there's really now there's a virus. There's a virus
Speaker 2: in bacteria.
Speaker 9: Exactly, so you know pneumonia, that's gonna be a bacteria
Speaker 9: that causes it. Stuff like the flu flu is a virus,
Speaker 9: but almost every single Cincinnati crud thing out there is
Speaker 9: a virus. Unfortunately, antibiotics don't do anything. And some people say, well,
Speaker 9: this zpac works for me every time. This antiotic works
Speaker 9: for me every time, and it's you know, there may
Speaker 9: be a little something to it as far as anti
Speaker 9: and inflammation, but it's not treating the infection. And you know,
Speaker 9: it's usually a fact that people have just been sick
Speaker 9: long enough that they're getting better and it just happens
Speaker 9: to coincide with the time that they start on an antibiotic.
Speaker 3: Right, I gotcha, Sonja on that.
Speaker 2: You know, you demand your doctor right that that led
Speaker 2: us to this whole superbug thing. Right, It's like, we
Speaker 2: wrote me two scripts for a bacteria Killobacter whensa virus
Speaker 2: and we knew that, but we did it to shut
Speaker 2: the patient up. Yeah, And then that dividend with that was, well,
Speaker 2: we've not got these superbugs out there that are immune
Speaker 2: to the overwriting of those prescriptions exactly.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: The best story I have of that, or the most
Speaker 9: unfortunate story is my uncle in India would be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 9: I take this this medicine for diarrhea every time. And
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, we're having talks about diarrhea for unclear reasons,
Speaker 9: and so you know, I'm like what is it?
Speaker 1: Is it emodium?
Speaker 9: And he breaks out this pill and it is leave
Speaker 9: a phloxysm, which is a super powerful, you know, antibiotic
Speaker 9: that we really hold back for a lot of things.
Speaker 9: But in India that stuff's flowing over the counter really
Speaker 9: and so we see all these nasty superbugs coming from
Speaker 9: other countries where there is no you know, no barrier
Speaker 9: where you don't have to see a doctor for this.
Speaker 9: So yes, we do want to be stewards of antibiotics
Speaker 9: as physicians.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 9: You know this all came out of Yeah, placate the patient,
Speaker 9: but it's done more harm than good with causing you know,
Speaker 9: these these resistant infections.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's going to rip evidends for a
Speaker 2: long time, and not in a good way. He is
Speaker 2: a Sonjay schevrok ARMANI. He's an emergency room physician here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati and he's coming on the show like every
Speaker 2: Thursday morning, pop in and talk about health and food
Speaker 2: and in this case the flu. So get the vaccine.
Speaker 2: I know that we've politicized vaccines now and you know,
Speaker 2: believe what you want about the COVID vacs.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't get it. Every year.
Speaker 2: I'm like every couple of years. My doctor says, you know,
Speaker 2: you're you're pretty healthy, you don't need it. But I'm
Speaker 2: pretty religious about that flu vax and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: you got to look at measles and all those series
Speaker 2: and okay, there's the politics of it, but don't let
Speaker 2: that pollute the stuff that's kept well, really kept us
Speaker 2: alive all these years.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 2: The same people, a lot of the people who are
Speaker 2: against the vaccines are the same ones who benefited from
Speaker 2: for the last X number of years.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, so you know, everyone has to make their own
Speaker 9: individual decisions. We have to respect that too and really
Speaker 9: understand the drivers of that. If you do have any
Speaker 9: questions though, you know, talk to your doctor about it,
Speaker 9: and you know, we just want the best thing for
Speaker 9: you and your family and loved ones.
Speaker 3: All right, sign jail the best. Thanks again. You can
Speaker 3: get a reach in.
Speaker 2: His handle is at dine Well Dock at Dinewell Dock
Speaker 2: and we'll talk next Thursday.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, good, see you. Thanks for Ben.
Speaker 2: It's a Scott Floan show. This is seven hundred clony,
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. More bad news for your pocketbook here.
Speaker 2: If you're in Ohio, you and your family could be
Speaker 2: paying more for electricity. Why, Well, the federal government is
Speaker 2: trying to extend the life of aging coal plants that
Speaker 2: were once slated for call closure. And those things are
Speaker 2: notoriously expensive to keep going. And we're seeing this trend
Speaker 2: across the country as well. And those expenses too would
Speaker 2: then be passed on a consumer, So says the Citizen's
Speaker 2: Utility Board of Ohio. Tom Bullock is here is our
Speaker 2: executive director, Tom.
Speaker 3: Welcome, How are you good morning? Good, good good.
Speaker 2: Why would keeping a coal plant open cost us more money?
Speaker 2: Does it cost more money to open new plants?
Speaker 6: Most of these plants in question are very old, seventy
Speaker 6: years old, sixty years old. They were designed for a
Speaker 6: different era. The parts don't exist, The facilities aren't designed
Speaker 6: to power up or power down swiftly or respond to
Speaker 6: economic conditions. So it's a little bit like if your
Speaker 6: uncle gave you a nineteen seventy two Chevy and it
Speaker 6: still runs a leaded gasoline and you're supposed to drive
Speaker 6: that around. In theory, it's cheaper, but really to operate it,
Speaker 6: how do you get the parts to repair it? When
Speaker 6: nobody makes them? It's difficult.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the question be why why are we forcing
Speaker 2: to keep these plants open?
Speaker 6: Then, well, you'd have to ask the White House. The
Speaker 6: White House believes that it wants to support one fuel source. Now,
Speaker 6: power is generated by a mix of sources. Coal, nuclear,
Speaker 6: natural gas is a big, big player, and increasingly wind
Speaker 6: and solar. Those are low costs. And then battery storage
Speaker 6: plays a role as well. Those are essentially large versions
Speaker 6: of the lithium ion batteries you carry around in your
Speaker 6: smartphone in your pocket all day long. Those play a
Speaker 6: role because it evens out the grid and you can
Speaker 6: use cheap solar or wind when there's extra power and
Speaker 6: you don't need it, stoor it in the battery, and
Speaker 6: then release it when you do need it.
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
Speaker 2: But what's driving this though, is demand. Right as I
Speaker 2: understand it, we're putting all these AI facilities online. Ohio,
Speaker 2: for example, Columbus Butler County is getting like a million
Speaker 2: square foot facility as well, and so they're extending the
Speaker 2: life of coal plants because we need to meet demand.
Speaker 2: The problem is the forecast, and I'm sure you know
Speaker 2: by what twenty thirty nine is allegedly going to go
Speaker 2: up some forty percent.
Speaker 3: That's just demand.
Speaker 2: We don't have the infrastructure and the transmission to be
Speaker 2: able to get that power to households and businesses and residents.
Speaker 2: Obviously in addition to all of the technology's going online.
Speaker 2: So it feels to me like an all hands on
Speaker 2: deck approach.
Speaker 3: Is that wrong? Half right, half wrong?
Speaker 6: There for sure is data centers that are driving load growth.
Speaker 6: Part of that is artificial intelligence, part of it's not.
Speaker 6: There's also new factories coming to Ohio, like we hope
Speaker 6: the Intel plants. As people also electrify their homes with
Speaker 6: electric cars or switch their furnest to a heat pump,
Speaker 6: there's going to be more growth overall. But we do
Speaker 6: have power today. What's causing the price bike is the speculation,
Speaker 6: as you said, about the next five years or so
Speaker 6: for data center growth, and there's a bit of an
Speaker 6: arms race by those companies to build out. And if
Speaker 6: you don't have power, of data center is a warehouse
Speaker 6: full of expensive junk. So it's a real issue. But
Speaker 6: it's not coal that is needed. It's power that the
Speaker 6: market decides is the best, and that gets to the
Speaker 6: heart of it. Government isn't supposed to be picking winners
Speaker 6: and losers. And if the White House picks losing facilities
Speaker 6: that are closed because they're the most expensive and forces
Speaker 6: people to use those market losers to drive power, it's
Speaker 6: going to make losers out of all how consumers, because
Speaker 6: what you're doing is you're spiking the market. The market
Speaker 6: is designed to have an auction and the lowest cost
Speaker 6: the plier wins. But if somebody comes in and says, hey, market,
Speaker 6: I'm going to force you to not just take expensive power,
Speaker 6: but the most expensive power from the oldest and least
Speaker 6: nimble and least adaptive facilities, it'shews everything. So the issue
Speaker 6: isn't the fuel source. The issue is let the market
Speaker 6: function like it's supposed to without tampering.
Speaker 3: What does the market want.
Speaker 6: When the market wants more power and affordable power, which
Speaker 6: is there is going to be a little bit of
Speaker 6: an up and down as you bring new resources on.
Speaker 6: But if you let the market function, a temporary high
Speaker 6: price in the short term will level out and decrease
Speaker 6: over time. The challenge, though, is that our regional grid,
Speaker 6: it's called pjm Ohio's part of thirteen states in a
Speaker 6: grid that includes the mid Atlantic, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, et cetera.
Speaker 6: It's not easy to get new power added to the grid,
Speaker 6: and that is worsening prices in their term. So PJM,
Speaker 6: not the federal government, also has work to do to
Speaker 6: make the hot prices, which are setting the signal to suppliers. Hey,
Speaker 6: power producers, come online, we need you. The market's sending
Speaker 6: that signal. But the problem is PGM has restrictions about
Speaker 6: adding power and interconnecting with the grid that are too
Speaker 6: slow and difficult. So the prices are going to be
Speaker 6: high for a while with no market solutions. So PJM
Speaker 6: has work to do to lower our prices.
Speaker 3: Is this just a case of bureaucracy?
Speaker 2: And this is what is It's a choke point in
Speaker 2: that we have an increasing demand for power, and so
Speaker 2: you address that by keeping the old technology online, when
Speaker 2: of course keeping old stuff going, as you pointed out,
Speaker 2: as always more expensive the future. To me, you should
Speaker 2: be everything should be on the table. We if wind
Speaker 2: or solar or whatever works, hydrogen, nuclear, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: whatever we can get to market more quickly, that's what
Speaker 2: we should be favoring at this point. Why isn't that happening,
Speaker 2: especially with an administration it seems so friendly about getting
Speaker 2: rid of all the gridlock and bureaucracy and doge and
Speaker 2: all that stuff that fits right in.
Speaker 3: Why isn't that happening?
Speaker 6: Well, because I think what's happening is a lobbyist and
Speaker 6: the political favors are getting involved instead of instead of
Speaker 6: letting the market, so capitalism as a creative destructive side.
Speaker 6: What happens is the least expensive old technology goes away
Speaker 6: and is replaced by a new, better mouse trapper, in
Speaker 6: this case, a new, cheaper generation facility. But if the
Speaker 6: people who are friends with the old facilities say, hey,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, we don't like the market. If you
Speaker 6: do me a political favor, well, then it makes everything
Speaker 6: more expensive for everybody else. There are more than one
Speaker 6: thousand powered production generation facilities in our regional thirteen state grid.
Speaker 6: If you say the top fifty or one hundred most
Speaker 6: expensive power plants are forced to be kept open and
Speaker 6: sold even when the companies that own them want to
Speaker 6: close them, you're going to skew that market. So there's
Speaker 6: enough out pardon me, there's enough out there that we
Speaker 6: don't need to tamper with if we need to do
Speaker 6: what the state of Ohio did earlier. This year sit
Speaker 6: of Ohio deserves some credit, is leaned into market company
Speaker 6: technology neutral. It doesn't try to pick winners and losers
Speaker 6: about which fuel source. It says, we're not going to
Speaker 6: have regulated generation. We do want to expand power production
Speaker 6: so that we have affordable the keyword of suffordable energy
Speaker 6: to power our economy. And we're going to let the
Speaker 6: investors in the free market competition do its job, which
Speaker 6: means when an investor takes a risk on a plant,
Speaker 6: if they mess up, the losses on them, the loss
Speaker 6: doesn't get forced to be paid for by consumers, which
Speaker 6: is what regulated monopolies do. So basically, the federal government
Speaker 6: is trying to turn back the clock to a regulated
Speaker 6: monopoly style of power supply decision making. We don't need
Speaker 6: that today. We've got all kinds of technology that can
Speaker 6: be a better solution. I like to say engineers are smart.
Speaker 6: People are smart. If you can just get the legal
Speaker 6: and the financial out of the way of the inventors
Speaker 6: and the engineers, we could do all kinds of cool
Speaker 6: new solutions. But it's hard to get past legal.
Speaker 3: And there's a matter of factors.
Speaker 2: It's Tom Bullock, Executive director of Citizens Utility Board, of
Speaker 2: Ohio because of the high demand that we're facing when
Speaker 2: it comes to our electrical grid and power and the
Speaker 2: choke point, which of course is demand and we don't
Speaker 2: have transmission and supply that's going to drive closs up in.
Speaker 2: We're adding more and more infrastructure in the forums, will
Speaker 2: you know, people buying electric cars plugging in. But the
Speaker 2: big one is data centers in AI and we're putting
Speaker 2: plants all over, including Butler County, that just need a
Speaker 2: tremendous amount of energy and resources for that. Water is
Speaker 2: another great example of that thing, dude. Now maybe not
Speaker 2: in our scope here, but some data centers consume up
Speaker 2: to five million gallons of water a day. That's about
Speaker 2: enough for a town of about fifty thousand people, which
Speaker 2: is an incredible amount of resources dedicated to keeping power
Speaker 2: that little thing in our hands. Right with AI and
Speaker 2: infrastrate and information the data center right a tremendous amount
Speaker 2: of polages.
Speaker 6: We should also be careful. Some of this is data
Speaker 6: center speculations. A bubble that conversed and some of these
Speaker 6: data center companies are planning to build one or two
Speaker 6: data centers, but they're filing redundant applications in the Great
Speaker 6: Plain States in our region, in the Northeast, in the southeast,
Speaker 6: and they're racing to figure out who gets gives them
Speaker 6: their permit first. So they're not building ten, they're only
Speaker 6: building two. And all of us are scrambling and saying,
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, we have to add all this power.
Speaker 6: So there's an important double checking process that we need
Speaker 6: to do to make sure we're not over building. But
Speaker 6: one consumer who is in Ohio and talked to the
Speaker 6: Cleveland plate dealers, let me get this straight. Data centers
Speaker 6: are increasing my bill today and I didn't do anything
Speaker 6: to invite them here, and yet their costs are already
Speaker 6: affecting me. This is one more example of where business
Speaker 6: costs get dumped onto Bob and Betty Buckeye and they
Speaker 6: privatize the Game's real quick.
Speaker 2: To what's happening with for example, you mentioned you know
Speaker 2: they're getting pulling permits and getting ready to build what's
Speaker 2: going on the Columbus Intel plant, because that's still not
Speaker 2: where they promised to be at this part. We're pushing
Speaker 2: operations back another five or six.
Speaker 3: Years, are I?
Speaker 6: I think that's right. I know that the governor and
Speaker 6: even the White House has been working to continue getting
Speaker 6: Intel to move forward on the project. There's such enormous
Speaker 6: amounts of money involved that you're going to have to
Speaker 6: have some federal supports for what's called the Chips Act.
Speaker 6: But that was a change between the previous administration the
Speaker 6: current one. So I tend to think that it's important
Speaker 6: for Ohio to pursue and implement these kinds of facilities.
Speaker 6: But you also for you know, we speak for small
Speaker 6: residential consumers. So the you've been making in this conversation
Speaker 6: a longer than good ones, which is, as you build
Speaker 6: these very large factories for very large enter consumers, kind
Speaker 6: to make sure the way that the grid infrastructure is
Speaker 6: paid for doesn't get dumped onto the daghbles. It's like
Speaker 6: you'll dump your leaves over your back fence into your
Speaker 6: neighbor's yard. But that financially happens all the time in
Speaker 6: the world of utilities, and it shouldn't happen. That's why
Speaker 6: groups like ours try to speak up to the little guy.
Speaker 2: How hard is it too, Tom, Because it's always there
Speaker 2: is the effort to get cleaner power, and we need
Speaker 2: more and more of it. Is it odds with infrastructure
Speaker 2: building infrastructure because there's right of ways. I mean, look
Speaker 2: what happened with the Keystone XL pipeline getting shut down.
Speaker 2: It's a lot more efficient, easier, and safer than taking
Speaker 2: all of that fuel that we need and putting out
Speaker 2: on rail cars where they can You know, look what
Speaker 2: happened in Ohio, not just a few handful of years ago,
Speaker 2: and that's transporting stuff over rail, which is a lot
Speaker 2: more dangerous in an efficient in the system. What about
Speaker 2: the environmental push back from all this? Is that slowing
Speaker 2: things up? At that thought those money.
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think there are land used
Speaker 6: questions any time into power infrastructure, and that's also true
Speaker 6: if you build a subdivision or a shopping wall. Government
Speaker 6: has to be thoughtful about how it balances the most
Speaker 6: competing interest between the new development and the neighbors. Clean
Speaker 6: energy like wind and solar is increasingly the cheapest on
Speaker 6: the market. If you marry it up with battery storage,
Speaker 6: then it can provide you more of around the clock
Speaker 6: twenty four to seven solution, especially if you think of
Speaker 6: it not at one store or one house, but on
Speaker 6: an average across a statewide region. So if you think
Speaker 6: of Ohio, Illinois, Indiana together the wind is always blowing somewhere,
Speaker 6: and the sun is always shining somewhere. So on the aggregate,
Speaker 6: you could add a lot of inexpensive power, or to
Speaker 6: add to the mix of more expensive power sources than
Speaker 6: are traditional baseload, like nuclear or natural gas. But what
Speaker 6: you have to do is let one hundred companies or
Speaker 6: a thousand companies make their everyday economic decisions and investment decisions,
Speaker 6: and collectively that market will be more intelligent and less
Speaker 6: expensive than a governor or a president trying to put
Speaker 6: his or her thumb on the scale. You know. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's amazing to me that we have to even explain
Speaker 6: this in a country that's supposed to be a free
Speaker 6: market capitalist.
Speaker 2: But the people who complain about socialism practice socialism themselves.
Speaker 2: The people who like socialism want more socialism.
Speaker 6: Well, there's some truth to what you just said, and
Speaker 6: there's hypocrisy in all directions. And all of us live
Speaker 6: in glass houses, so I should be careful about the
Speaker 6: stones I throw. But I guess because the prices are
Speaker 6: going up. There's a survey that said from the last
Speaker 6: week National Survey, thirty four percent of American's sake electricity
Speaker 6: prices are a major concern.
Speaker 3: That's high.
Speaker 6: Forty percent think it's a minor concern. This is on
Speaker 6: our radar and it's not going to go away. And yes,
Speaker 6: data centers are kind of the first stage of forcing
Speaker 6: prices up, but there's all these other pressures. For the
Speaker 6: next twenty years, I think it's going to be increasingly concerned,
Speaker 6: So we're going to be spending more time thinking about it.
Speaker 6: You do have solutions on your end. You can insulate
Speaker 6: your home air seal with a calking gun. That's nineteen
Speaker 6: forties technology that's not new, are expensive, just got to
Speaker 6: do it. But none of us do that perfectly. But
Speaker 6: we can help ourselves. And then new technology is not
Speaker 6: everything has to be a giant megaplant. You could do
Speaker 6: something on your home or business. There's medium tier facilities
Speaker 6: we're working on. So let's say it's on twenty acres
Speaker 6: forty acres or an industrial roof. You could put solar,
Speaker 6: or you could do part solar, part battery, part natural
Speaker 6: gas like a microgrid hybrid system. And then it can
Speaker 6: be back up emergency power for a facility or a
Speaker 6: factory that has to run it all.
Speaker 2: But Tom know a little bit about that business. That's
Speaker 2: an expensive outlay, and sometimes you know, you get an agreement.
Speaker 3: Where they put it on quote unquote for free.
Speaker 2: But the veig on that what you're paying an interest
Speaker 2: basis of payback is pretty extreme. That that might be
Speaker 2: good if you have that upfront cash or the math
Speaker 2: works for you, but right now for most people that doesn't.
Speaker 6: Well, if you're talking about a business, it's probably easier
Speaker 6: to get there, true, and it depends if your business
Speaker 6: is energy intents of like many family owned businesses in
Speaker 6: Ohio or manufacturing businesses where energy is their second most
Speaker 6: expensive category after labor, so they pay very careful attention
Speaker 6: already to that. So you're right, some businesses it will
Speaker 6: be easier to get there than the other's. Hospitals are
Speaker 6: a good use. Even school systems that have let's say
Speaker 6: five elementary schools, two middle schools to high school you
Speaker 6: could aggregate all that power draw and then feed it
Speaker 6: with a virtual net metering system that might be in
Speaker 6: the next county over. Yeah, so I think what you'll
Speaker 6: find is even if you don't power all of the needs,
Speaker 6: you could do a portion of it, and then that
Speaker 6: gives you a long term, low price, stable contract, and
Speaker 6: so your financial people can say we're in a better
Speaker 6: position to have control over our bills and our risks,
Speaker 6: and we can plan for the future better. Some of
Speaker 6: the power will buy from the traditional grid, but some
Speaker 6: will get from these other systems, so you have options
Speaker 6: and nobody should be forced to do this. But I
Speaker 6: kind of do think we're going to enter a new
Speaker 6: era where we're thinking more about electricity than.
Speaker 2: We fear is my favor I amount of time, but
Speaker 2: my fear is there's going to be, like anything we
Speaker 2: don't do anything proactively, do it reactively, there's going to
Speaker 2: be some sort of energy nine to eleven where our
Speaker 2: grid shutdown will be a crisis before anyone goes man,
Speaker 2: we got to do something about this.
Speaker 3: That's just what we do in America.
Speaker 6: I think we don't inspect a bridge until bridge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: We need a light at this intersection because some kids
Speaker 2: are going to get hit on their bike. Don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. Kid gets on a bike. Politicians out there,
Speaker 2: why don't we have a stoplight. I think I'm a
Speaker 2: big proponent and fascinated by many nuclear reactors, small nuclear
Speaker 2: reactors to power those AI facilities. Just have it on board,
Speaker 2: and I the problem of course, I think House Bill
Speaker 2: six and the first energy scandal ruined nuclear in the
Speaker 2: state of Ohio.
Speaker 6: I would I would say there's still possibilities there. It's
Speaker 6: very expensive, but there could be some business use cases
Speaker 6: for it, including your data centers. Uh yeah, it's kind
Speaker 6: of always like, well, twenty years in the future, it'll
Speaker 6: be it'll be ready. Maybe it's ten years in the future,
Speaker 6: we'll see, I mean all options of the table. But
Speaker 6: some of these data centers may indeed be uh a
Speaker 6: good category for using that. I'm hearing three Mile Island
Speaker 6: in New York is going to be reopened by the
Speaker 6: end of the data center or something.
Speaker 3: Like that in trouble.
Speaker 6: So so some of those super intensive, high price and
Speaker 6: they've got to have the power and they can't bu
Speaker 6: risk their grip cutting out of them, they may do
Speaker 6: things like that.
Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 2: I mean it's to set it in that direction that
Speaker 2: you could have a reactor the size of I don't know,
Speaker 2: a filing cabinet or a toaster, and that would power
Speaker 2: a subdivision or a fact or something along these lines,
Speaker 2: and that's essentially send it back into the company that
Speaker 2: makes and get a new one kind of like a
Speaker 2: battery pack. But Tom Bullock, Executive Director of Citizens, you
Speaker 2: tell me Borta will have then and keep the call
Speaker 2: plants open because of the demand, and we don't have altered solutions.
Speaker 2: We got to wait for the sky to fall before
Speaker 2: we do anything. I think that is the too long,
Speaker 2: didn't read versionless conversation. But I appreciate your time again
Speaker 2: this morning, Tom, Thanks again.
Speaker 6: Let's talk some more. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, how are you?
Speaker 7: It's a morning?
Speaker 2: It really is something else. It's I'm physical this morning,
Speaker 2: so I left for physicals. I get a blood drop
Speaker 2: for my annual physical and got to the blood place
Speaker 2: at Montgomery Road christ Hospital, which normally does good work
Speaker 2: and seven o'clock and there's people behind me. I'm the
Speaker 2: first one there. I thought, Okay, good, I gotta get in.
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of stuff to do. Yeah, that person,
Speaker 2: we don't know where they are, so we'll probably never show.
Speaker 2: Never showed, so oh maybe we'll oping like seven thirty,
Speaker 2: well maybe like seven forty. And they had one person
Speaker 2: that was like three thousand people.
Speaker 7: Oh no, that's not good.
Speaker 5: Somebody's somebody's gonna get is already either chewed out, fired or.
Speaker 2: No, probably not. It's just the way the economy is.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. And then traffic, of course was.
Speaker 2: But I will say this. Can I goff on a
Speaker 2: little bit of a rant here for SI please? You
Speaker 2: know we're almost a because you're almost to that age.
Speaker 3: Okay, listen, this is like one of.
Speaker 2: Those progressive commercials, and those progressive commercials hit because it's
Speaker 2: so true that don't become your parents.
Speaker 7: They'll become your parents.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, if you're a senior citizen, if you're retired, and
Speaker 2: your joy you've got, you know, you've worked your whole life,
Speaker 2: raised to family. Uh, did everything you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: God bless you. I want to be there some day myself.
Speaker 2: But could you please, to the love of God, you
Speaker 2: don't need to be the first person in line at
Speaker 2: seven o'clock and born in the place. And there are
Speaker 2: people that work that got to get to work, So
Speaker 2: why don't you wait till later in the day to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 7: Oh you're saying that people that aren't working.
Speaker 2: Correct, It should be people like, Okay, I got to
Speaker 2: get to work by you know, some people at nine o'clock.
Speaker 2: I'm a little lower than that. Obviously, they're just saying,
Speaker 2: you know, and here's when I'm older. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be the first guy in line because my my
Speaker 2: you know, my prostates kept me on.
Speaker 3: I wake up at three am.
Speaker 6: Wet.
Speaker 5: If you're my dad and he's whatever, eighty years old,
Speaker 5: he's going.
Speaker 7: To be the first one in line.
Speaker 3: You have to do all in the.
Speaker 5: First pew at church, he is in the first one
Speaker 5: in line because he's up at three am.
Speaker 7: He goes to bed at five pm.
Speaker 2: Man, man, just you don't need to be there that early.
Speaker 2: I got the I want to waste the whole day.
Speaker 2: What is it you have to do that's so damn important.
Speaker 2: You're retired, You could do it anything you want or nothing.
Speaker 7: If I start going to bed at five pm, seriously.
Speaker 3: Just well, you're getting closer eight thirty. Last night, she's
Speaker 3: in bed. What are you doing?
Speaker 7: It was cold. I wanted to get under the covers
Speaker 7: and snuggle.
Speaker 2: And now by the time I came to bed, you
Speaker 2: got the blanket, all the blankets, and the dog gots
Speaker 2: up and try to pick him up.
Speaker 3: He's growling at you. He's like, I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: my bitch. I'm trying to sleep too.
Speaker 2: I stole your bank, all right, all right, Well so
Speaker 2: that was the day so far.
Speaker 3: So everyone's you know, if you're stuck on that traffic
Speaker 3: stuff to do.
Speaker 7: Right now, everything should be you know, rocket.
Speaker 2: And roll should be calm, all right. So let's jump
Speaker 2: into this real quick. Here we have a FED rate cut.
Speaker 2: What does actually mean for people? I think are thinking like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is going to go back to three percent sometimes.
Speaker 5: Soon, right and there is people are posting on social
Speaker 5: My lender said.
Speaker 7: It's going to be three percent by the end of
Speaker 7: the year. Don't do anything until then. Blah blah. That
Speaker 7: is a bunch of bees.
Speaker 3: I wonder tell you that they want to get their money.
Speaker 5: I don't know who's telling who what. But the Fed
Speaker 5: cut the fat cut it's benchmark federal funds rate by
Speaker 5: a quarter percent.
Speaker 7: This was expected.
Speaker 5: Okay, the markets have already expected this cut. They've already
Speaker 5: you know, we've already baked that into the cake. So
Speaker 5: mortgage rates are likely to you know, they've already come
Speaker 5: down a little bit. They're not too six percent yet,
Speaker 5: we're like six point one three, depending on your credit.
Speaker 5: It's still really good. It's better than it was. You know,
Speaker 5: we were at seven, we were at seven and a
Speaker 5: quarter an hour at six and a quarter, let's say.
Speaker 5: And so if that's for a thirty year fixed rate,
Speaker 5: you can get a lower rate if you buy down
Speaker 5: the rate. There are ways for you to get that
Speaker 5: lower rate, but you have.
Speaker 7: To pay for it. So that's just stuff to figure out.
Speaker 5: It doesn't automatically when the Fed cuts the rate, everybody
Speaker 5: in their mind says.
Speaker 7: Oh, yay, mortgage rates are going to go down. No,
Speaker 7: that's not the that's not the case.
Speaker 5: Doesn't automatically translate into a equal quarter point drop in
Speaker 5: mortgage rates. It's the short term policy rate. It affects
Speaker 5: all kinds of things. Ten year Treasury bonds things that
Speaker 5: I don't even know about. And so it's good news,
Speaker 5: that's for sure. But it doesn't do like equal parts
Speaker 5: lowering our mortgage rate. So that's what you just need
Speaker 5: to know. If you're buying or refinancing, there is going
Speaker 5: to be a benefit to that. And so if you
Speaker 5: have to refinance, if you are one of the people
Speaker 5: who a year ago we said, okay, if you find
Speaker 5: your perfect house and you have the high rate, guess what,
Speaker 5: when the rate goes down, you can refinance. That's what's
Speaker 5: happening right now, and we are seeing more and more
Speaker 5: of that. So that came true when when all the
Speaker 5: real estate agents out there said, go ahead, you can
Speaker 5: buy a house as long as you can afford it,
Speaker 5: you can refinance. Okay, that's we're getting into that territory.
Speaker 5: If you have a full point difference, you may want
Speaker 5: to look into refinancing.
Speaker 3: So that's that's a good thing, got it all right?
Speaker 2: But somebody hear that and go, well, I keep hearing
Speaker 2: there's gonna be another quarter point cut, another code there is,
Speaker 2: and again I'll just sit and wait.
Speaker 5: You can wait, but we're at six point one point
Speaker 5: three right now. It might get to six. It may
Speaker 5: get to five point ninety nine. That's probably not going
Speaker 5: to make the biggest of difference in your monthly mortgage.
Speaker 5: It really isn't. Those teeny tiny little tenths of a
Speaker 5: point is not gonna make that. It's gonna be like
Speaker 5: twenty dollars or thirty dollars, maybe maybe fifty bucks. And again,
Speaker 5: if it ever goes to that, it's never gonna get time.
Speaker 3: I'm on a fixed income.
Speaker 2: I got to get up early to go to the doctor,
Speaker 2: and I'm fifty dollars, I'm on a fixed income.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad for you.
Speaker 3: Then you should you know what, this is a lot
Speaker 3: of money.
Speaker 5: Okay, But if you're in a fixed income and you've
Speaker 5: been in your home for twenty years, you shouldn't have
Speaker 5: a mortgage payment anyway. You should have had that thing
Speaker 5: paid off. You shouldn't have refinanced and borrowed the money
Speaker 5: against yourself a million times.
Speaker 7: Oh Jesus, sound like my mom.
Speaker 3: No kidding to bed at eight thirty sounded like your mom?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 3: Anyway?
Speaker 2: My wife Michelle Sloan here, not my mother in law.
Speaker 2: My wife Michelle else long on the show wwill real
Speaker 2: Estate check up?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: So we're getting rate cuts.
Speaker 2: But you know, here's the thing. You go, well, maybe
Speaker 2: I want to wait till little see if it gets
Speaker 2: down to five at some point. Now it could be
Speaker 2: another could be a year, could be longer.
Speaker 7: Yeah, now five.
Speaker 5: See again, I think you're pushing that territory that if
Speaker 5: you want to move, if you want to make a move,
Speaker 5: make a freaking move.
Speaker 7: Sorry. Yeah, you know, it's.
Speaker 5: It's all about living your life in the present.
Speaker 3: So how many things do you have left?
Speaker 7: Exactly?
Speaker 2: That's why I yet at six o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: to get my blood draw I don't know how many
Speaker 2: of these I have left.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So here's the thing.
Speaker 5: If you find a house that works for you and
Speaker 5: you can afford it at the current rate, I'm always
Speaker 5: going to advise you to go ahead and buy that
Speaker 5: home because that home may not come around. That home,
Speaker 5: the particular home that fits your needs, may not come
Speaker 5: around again for a very long time. I've had some
Speaker 5: people that have been looking in certain school districts for
Speaker 5: two years or more because they're looking for the unicorn,
Speaker 5: the needle in the haystack that doesn't come along. It
Speaker 5: may come along, but when you find it, boy, you
Speaker 5: better jump on it because you may not find it ever.
Speaker 2: Again, also may have to compromise as well, and that's
Speaker 2: something well, that's.
Speaker 5: The one thing, you know, you really people some people
Speaker 5: are just unwilling to compromise. And if you're unwilling to compromise,
Speaker 5: then you should build. And that's sort of where I
Speaker 5: will direct you. If I'm working with you and we
Speaker 5: cannot find the right house for you in a certain area,
Speaker 5: a certain school district, and you're gonna nitpick every single
Speaker 5: little tiny thing, Oh my gosh, you know there's a
Speaker 5: there's a tiny hole in the wall, or the sink drips,
Speaker 5: or this is old or what ever. You know what
Speaker 5: if it's a used home, if it's a home, it's
Speaker 5: not brand new, it's not going to be brand new.
Speaker 3: You just have to accept that.
Speaker 7: That's one thing. So and then there then if I say, if.
Speaker 2: Here's one tonight. You know, we just talked about this before,
Speaker 2: because we sold our house over the summer and you
Speaker 2: did a great job. You're my favorite realtor and you
Speaker 2: got like, got thirteen showings in one day and a
Speaker 2: handful of.
Speaker 3: Offers, so that was good.
Speaker 2: But some people, again, you know, there's people and you
Speaker 2: have clients like this, and there's certain ethnicities that do
Speaker 2: this that the door has to be facing the right way.
Speaker 2: There's fing shwei, there's I don't know whether these super
Speaker 2: you know, rituals and all cultures have that. But you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, you've been looking for a house for two years.
Speaker 2: This is perfectly except the doors facing the wrong way,
Speaker 2: like and you want to get in the mason where
Speaker 2: the schools are really good because you have young kids.
Speaker 2: I mean, by the time you get that and what
Speaker 2: you want, everyone's fighting for that where the door is
Speaker 2: facing the right way.
Speaker 3: Your kids are going to be thirty, so you know,
Speaker 3: are you you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: It's like you got to pull the trigger at some
Speaker 5: point or you just keep renting. You know, if you're renting,
Speaker 5: you keep renting. And you know, we have I've had
Speaker 5: situations certainly I'd like to buy a house, Okay, how
Speaker 5: much do you want to spend?
Speaker 7: How much are you able to spend?
Speaker 5: That kind of thing, and the numbers don't add up,
Speaker 5: and so there's there's a combination of things. That's why
Speaker 5: when you hire a realtor, which is what you are doing,
Speaker 5: You are hiring a realtor to work with you. And
Speaker 5: the people that think they can just use realtors like
Speaker 5: I don't know, toilet paper, use them for a second
Speaker 5: and then throw them away. Not the best way, because
Speaker 5: you want to have a realtor who's going to work
Speaker 5: for you, with you together to come up with the
Speaker 5: solution to what you're looking for, and having and hiring
Speaker 5: an agent is very important part of the process. There's
Speaker 5: a thousand there's actually thousands of us out there, and
Speaker 5: so choosing the one that fits your personality, who is
Speaker 5: available when you need them and is open and honest
Speaker 5: and trustworthy. That's the kind of agent that you want
Speaker 5: on your side every step of the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife, Michelle Sloan is that agent. All right.
Speaker 2: So we're getting to that time of year, the some
Speaker 2: pumps starting to check out. We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Make sure you check your some pump. That's something I
Speaker 2: want to stress is, you know, if that things, if
Speaker 2: you're getting all those rain it's not turning on, you
Speaker 2: got to go down there and check it maybe and
Speaker 2: hopefully you have you know, a battery backup if you
Speaker 2: need it. If you have a lot of that, because
Speaker 2: especially if you have a finished basement. If not, you
Speaker 2: got an indoor swimming pool. Don't worry about it. Make
Speaker 2: sure the sum pump's working. How you test that simply
Speaker 2: as get a bucket of water and keep dumping it
Speaker 2: in there until the float valve comes up and then
Speaker 2: or you can put a little bit of water in
Speaker 2: there and lift the little ball up kind of like
Speaker 2: a toilet, and it should engage and get all that water.
Speaker 2: If not, you got to get a plumber over there
Speaker 2: and take a look at that. Also, this is the
Speaker 2: weekend with the time change. Got to mention the smoke detectors.
Speaker 2: And also I'll throw this in there too, because you
Speaker 2: can buy them with a combined thing. And you know,
Speaker 2: people have habits and while I don't need all that,
Speaker 2: get the carbon monoxide detector. So many people die from
Speaker 2: carbon monoxide poisoning, especially this time of year furnace kicks on.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know there's insects or a bird built a nest,
Speaker 2: or a bat diet or something, all sorts of stuff
Speaker 2: in that chimney or and that flu in the vent.
Speaker 2: If it's blocked, it's gonna you know, it could kill
Speaker 2: you and your family. So you can get a carbon
Speaker 2: monoxide detector for like less than twenty bucks. You know,
Speaker 2: put put it in and where they recommend it in
Speaker 2: your house, depending on can't get the details exactly where,
Speaker 2: not knowing what your house looks like.
Speaker 5: But you know, I know that an inspector will be
Speaker 5: looking for that. You know, over the years, the it's
Speaker 5: changed and you only had to have one outside of
Speaker 5: the bedroom. Now you're you're looking at wanting to have
Speaker 5: a smoke detector in every single bedroom, right so you
Speaker 5: know while things change, yeah you don't.
Speaker 7: That's the thing. You have to just be aware because
Speaker 7: safety first, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Safety first, hit that.
Speaker 2: Check your batteries if you still have the old fashioned
Speaker 2: smoke if those detectors still have the batteries, because now
Speaker 2: they sell one in the battery lasts like ten years.
Speaker 2: But even the higher the wired ones that are daisy chained,
Speaker 2: you know, if you can't tell when that smoke detector
Speaker 2: is that they won't last forever.
Speaker 3: So you got about ten years.
Speaker 2: You should really consider replacing them because you'll get some
Speaker 2: false positives like we have something that are older and
Speaker 2: you know when you cook they go off, So I
Speaker 2: got to change os and I'll put some newer carbon
Speaker 2: monoxide ones And how do.
Speaker 7: You adjest that? Do I like put a lighter up
Speaker 7: to it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: You simply well, no, you need just a little smoke
Speaker 3: from a candle to do it.
Speaker 2: But you know, typically ten years because dust collects on
Speaker 2: the sensors and that, and you know you just want
Speaker 2: to make sure God forbid you need it at work.
Speaker 2: So they're really you think about it, well, all the
Speaker 2: stuff he spend in our hou it's not that expensive.
Speaker 2: If they're more than ten years old, you should consider
Speaker 2: getting some new ones anyway, just the PSA there for
Speaker 2: some safety, for some remodeling safety from me. All right,
Speaker 2: my watch Michelle Sloan's Loan sells Homes dot com Open
Speaker 2: Howse show that is on the Iart radio app. You
Speaker 2: can listen to podcast and of course catch the visual
Speaker 2: podcast as well on YouTube. And she's over at Remax
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