WEBVTT - 10-30-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.840 Don't want to be an American. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.519 It's got so lun show back on seven hundred Woldy 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.520 got election coming. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:07.160 Up to Tuesday. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.560 Levy's in a dozen places, local offices, and there's a 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.640 big CPS renewal. We've got the mayor's race, of course, 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.560 and some twenty six people. It feels like three thousand 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.040 people trying to place in the top nine. So twenty 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.040 six people looking for nine jobs in a Sea Down 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.640 council on this and more. Is the person who controls 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.160 it all. That would be the director of the Hamlin 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.040 County Board of Elections, Sherry Poland, welcome back. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:30.440 How are you. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.519 I'm doing well, Thanks for having me. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:34.520 You always in a good mood. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.640 This is like right now I would be just crabby 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.239 af you know what I mean, because you got so 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:39.360 much coming at you right now. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:41.040 All right, so we'll start with this. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.400 The polls up on Tuesday, six thirty am to seven 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.879 thirty I believe correct, that's. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.000 Crack six thirty am to seven thirty pm. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.600 Don't forget the driver's license. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.240 That's correct, that's correct. A few years ago, Hi Ohio 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:59.640 changed these acceptable forms of ID for voting, so in 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.040 order to vote in person, you do need to have 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.399 a State of Ohio driver's license or a State of 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.679 Ohio identification card, or a passport or military ID. So 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.319 make sure it's not expired. Make sure it's up to 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.440 date before you come to the polls. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.560 Okay, I bring one that's expired, I forget it. What happens, 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.000 I can vote, no problem. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.040 If you do not have an acceptable form of ID, 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.560 you will be issued what we call a provisional ballot. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.280 It's the same ballot that's issued to every other voter 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.440 you would market, but instead of scanning it and having 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.080 it counted election night, it's placed inside what we call 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.680 a provisional envelope and that has your identifying information on it. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.720 You fill that out after election day. Bipartisan teams verify 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.360 the information on the envelope, and the voter has four 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.840 days after election day, so that's the Saturday after election 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.640 day to come to the Board of Elections and present 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.320 an acceptable form of ID. If they do, then that 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.240 ballot will be added to the official count, which occurs 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.400 a few weeks after election day. I do want to 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.800 note that if you're in that, find yourself in that 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.560 situation right now. So your driver's license or state idea 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.720 is expired. Go to the BMV before you come to 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.919 the polls. That interim documentation that the BMB gives you 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.040 while your identification is being mailed to you, that interim 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:29.200 idea that's good for driving purposes, it's also acceptable for voting. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.239 So if you have that, you will not have to 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:32.000 vote provisionally. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.640 Okay, got it. Let's talk about the early voting numbers. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.720 How early voting the absentee ballots, and how does the 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.840 request compared to previous elections and what does that tell 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.000 you about what's going to happen Tuesday? 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.480 Yeah, So absent te voting, which is that umbrella that 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.280 contains both voting by mail and early in person voting. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:55.000 We're pretty much right on track as to the twenty 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.800 twenty one election. So four years ago, once again Cincinnati 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.480 was voting council members, mayor this election, that turnout is 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.600 tracking right on pace with that twenty twenty one election. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.600 Okay, compare that to like the presidential cycle, the last 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.720 presidential election, so one twenty percent. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:14.880 Okay, what are we talking? 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.400 Yeah, so in twenty twenty one, county wide, we saw 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.840 a twenty six percent turnout. City Cincinnati is slightly lower 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.040 in twenty five percent. Compare that to a presidential where 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.960 we see a seventy two percent turnout. So unfortunately, we 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.000 don't see the turnout in odd numbered years elections than 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.240 we do in the even years. But you know, we 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.760 it's kind of hard for us in the business to 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:46.240 understand why that happens, because we are voting for our 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.720 local elected officials. These are the folks that really have 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.280 an impact on our day to day lives. So I 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.920 encourage everyone if you haven't voted yet, voted yet early 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:00.280 voting in person is still ongoing through Sunday, and then 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.960 you know your polls will be open in your community 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.760 on election Day, get out and vote. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.440 I would say it's simply but it's marketing, I think, right, 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.680 because in a presidential cycle, it's in your face all 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:09.960 the time. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.480 You're getting tons of robo calls. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.840 Social media feed is packed with political messages and bickering. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.680 You turn on a streaming show or TV and you're 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.440 inundated with political messages. President presidential visis front and center, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.960 and I think it just the marketing drives more people 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:24.400 to polls. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:25.320 That's my theory. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.520 Yeah. Absolutely. Something else we see is that you know, 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.320 sometimes controversial issues will bring voters out to the polls. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.920 So two years ago, twenty twenty three odd year, you know, 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:42.880 election again looking electing local officials, we saw a higher turnout. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.120 I think we saw a forty eight percent turnout in 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.880 twenty twenty three. But that your abortion, marijuana. We're both 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.159 on the ballot, So the issues can also drive out turnout. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.599 Yeah, yeah, And I think that's probably a good point too, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.599 is the more globally issued. That's a state issue. But 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.760 everyone's like, okay, I can identify with that. You start 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.720 talking about millage and levees and school boards and dogcatchers, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.159 people's eyes glaze over, rightly or wrongly. I think that's 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.039 how we're programms. Like I got my ballot where we 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:10.599 just moved to and looked at and were like three 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.320 or four things on there, and most of them were 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.880 fairly inane. There's a levee issue which I voted on, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.719 but the other ones are like, I don't know who 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.080 these people are. Did some research found out some of them? 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.560 Other ones I just and the ones I looked at 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:23.960 when I have no idea who they are. I can't 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.840 find any information on them. I just left blank, which 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:27.279 is the same. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.320 You kid, you can absolutely skip the contest. That is 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.800 your right to do that. But I think you bring 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.400 up another very good point, and that is to become 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.520 an informed voter. And it's easy to do if you 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.160 vote by mail, because that ballot is mail to your house. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.120 You can fit take your time to the research. However, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.039 for this election, voting by mail has ended. That ended 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.880 on Tuesday. Anyone who wished to vote by mail had 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.040 to submit an application to the board by this past Tuesday, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.840 Chamber twenty, so voting by mail has ended. But what 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.680 you can do if you are going to vote in 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.320 person then is go on to our website vote Hamilton County, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.800 Ohio dot gov. Vote Hamilton County, Ohio dot gov. Go 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:08.839 onto our website and you can look up your sample 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:13.120 ballot on our website so it looks almost identical to 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.640 the ballot you'll receive when you walk into the polling place. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.960 So reviewed ahead of time, do your research like you did, 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.720 and become an informed voter so there's no surprises when 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.680 you walk into the polling place. You can go in 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.000 knowing how you want to cast your ballot. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.480 Scott's Onland with Sherry Poland she's the director Hamilin County 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.520 Board of Elections. Got the election coming up Tuesday. If 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.000 you're in person, at six point thirty relative to that, Sherry, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.400 you know, you mentioned the twenty right around twenty six 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.720 percent turnout right around that maybe twenty five one. 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.080 Out every four voters in the city. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.599 And sometimes issues will bring out more people on off 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.919 year elections, as this one is because you don't have 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.000 the hype of the presidential I understand that, and I 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.960 think people are just fatigued too going I'm going to 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:52.880 take a knee here this year. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:53.680 I don't need to show. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.200 But I thought, you know, with the crime issue in Cincinnati, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.440 and I know you can't get in and that's not 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.120 your area concern, you're just managing the election. But I thought, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.720 for sure, with the interesting crime downtown and the number 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.159 of people running for counsel, that would I get I guess, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.280 maybe drive more people out. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.000 That surprised me, you know, and it's still a possibility 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.680 on election day. You know, the majority of voters in 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:19.440 Hamilton County still choose to vote on election day, so 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.880 you know, we might see that higher turnout come. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.120 Then. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.239 You know, I don't have a crystal ball that tells 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.440 me that, But well I'll find out on Tuesday. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.840 Yeah, exact, we'll find out together on Tuesday. Regarding that too, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.720 how many more people this year and I'm sure you're 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.320 looking at the trend and it's just align almost straight upward. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.360 Would guess the number of people taking advantage of the 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.720 very generous way we can vote early in the Buckeye State, 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.200 where like me, I just would rather have it mailed 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.760 to my house. I'd get a cup of coffee, sit 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.400 there on a Sunday afternoon morning, I guess before football 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.400 and figure out who I'm and what I'm voting for, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.440 do a little research. Whereas typically you don't have that 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.960 kind of time. You feel pressured if you're standing there 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.000 in queue, and then you know, getting into the booth 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:02.040 itself to actually punch the draw the little circles. I guess, 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.520 not punch the card, but draw the circle. This is 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.240 easier to know how many more people are taking advantge 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.280 are we see that trend continue upward? 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.760 What we're seeing continue to trend upward is the early 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.680 in person voting. It's just become you know, extremely extremely 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.640 popular in Hamilton County. It started when we moved the 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.520 board of elections away from downtown to our current facility 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.600 in Norwood. You know, it's more centrally located in the 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.400 county that we serve. We have you know, a large 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.120 amount of free public parking, and that's that is what's 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.000 trending upward, is that early in person vote voting every 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.800 election we outpass the last similar election. When it comes 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.320 to that, voting by mail is you know, sort of 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.800 holding study or maybe dropping slightly. You know, during twenty twenty, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:58.240 we had many many people vote by mail, obviously due 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.680 to the pandemic, and we thought that perhaps that trend 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.040 would continue because now we have so many people that 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.920 were never exposed to voting by mail before, they might 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.120 have found it to be very convenient. But that didn't happen. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.840 After twenty twenty, we went back to the majority of 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.520 Hamiltons County voters casting the ballot the traditional way at 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:18.439 the polling place on. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:19.920 Election I hate that's happening. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.000 I don't know, you know, I think one way. You know, 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.000 we live in the Midwest. We like our traditions. You know, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.600 I know a lot of people that say to me, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.080 you know, no, I go into my polling place on 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.679 election day. That's a sacred day. To me, that's what 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.240 I do and I'm not going to deviate, you know, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.400 from that, which you know, I think is interesting. Then 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.320 we have a lot of people with the early voting. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.880 You know, we have voting for almost a month at 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.120 our Early Vote Center, and it is and people find 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.000 it to be, you know, extremely convenient. I will note 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.240 obviously on election day you must go to your assigned 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.640 polling place, which is based on where you live, whereas 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.360 at the Early Vote Center, you know, anyone who lives 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.200 of matter where you live in Hamilton Counties, your registered voter, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.160 you can come and vote the Early voat Center. So 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.360 many times we see families coming together so where they 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.240 might be you know, assigned to different polling places because 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.600 they don't all live, you know, in the same home. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.440 We see a lot of people sort of making a 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.640 family event and coming together the Early Votes Center, then 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.960 going going out to eat or something like that afterwards, 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.160 or sort of the stories that we that we hear 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.520 and again it's it's extremely convenient. And the hours that 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.000 we have I will note we're open today and tomorrow 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:35.000 from seven thirty am to seven thirty pm Saturday, eight 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.520 am to four pm. Early voting ends on Sunday, and 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.640 it's the shortest hours we have by state law. We're 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.440 open from one pm to five pm on Sunday, so 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.640 still plenty of time to come on and vote early 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:48.520 in person at the. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.440 Board Cherry Poland with all the event of early voting, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.880 and you know, they're still traditional south there. I don't 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.160 know how young people do that, because you know young people, 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.080 they'll probably mail it in. I mean, if you could 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.320 text your vote in the all over that I would guess. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.480 Maybe I'd be that way too, I suppose. But how 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.080 is this changing how you tabulate the elections? And normally 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.960 you're sitting around waiting for the results to come in. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.720 Sometimes it's the middle of the night when they come. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.439 You know, if you're voting early, either in person, by 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.520 mail or however, you have those votes and of course 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.480 you have them in hand and you're ready to release 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.760 those results the minute the polls closed. So you got 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.480 a lot of stuff done up front, so to speak. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.520 How does that changed your job and also when the 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.040 results come out, Yeah, that's. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.959 A great question. You know, in the state of Ohio, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.240 we are permitted election officials are permitted to process those 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.840 vote by mail ballots as soon as they come in. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.200 You have a handful of states that won't allow the 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:45.920 election officials to begin those acts of preparation until election warning. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.040 But in Ohio, we can verify all the information that's 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.800 contained on the envelope ahead of time as soon as 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.400 we receive it. Once we determine that that vote by 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.559 mail ballot is accepted for counting, we remove the ballot. 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.679 It scanned, it's not tabulated, it's scanned, and the cast 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.360 vote record is what we call it is stored. And 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.320 then the ballot is stored in a secure facility here 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.280 at the Ware of Elections. Then on election night, as 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.240 soon as the polls closed at seven point thirty one PM, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.120 we then hit the tabulate button, so the no ballots 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.200 are counted until the polls closed. But we are permitted 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.360 to do those acts of preparation. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.600 Yeah, scam, get him ready to go, so that makes 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.800 the results come in here. And that's a big question here, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.400 Sherry Poland. Is it's not about you know, free and 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.400 open elections and exercising your constitutional right to cast your 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.920 vote one person, one voice, and one vote, as the 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:40.480 case may be. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:42.160 This is not about that. 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.760 This is about Brian Combs, our assistant news director, wants 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.480 to know what time he can go home on Tuesday, 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:48.120 Tuesday night. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.280 Again, I don't have a crystal ball that would that 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.400 would tell me that we hope, always hope at one 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:03.040 hundred to be one hundred percent report before eleven pm, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.000 you know. And again just to talk a little bit 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.800 more about the election night count and how that works. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.880 We mentioned the early votes that's early in person and 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.439 by mail are the very first ballots that are tabulated 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.000 and released on election night, and then it's a little 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.520 bit of a waiting game for those ballots to come 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.800 in from the polling places all across Hamilton County. And 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.080 that's because our voting equipment is not connected to the internet. 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.360 In fact, that doesn't they don't even have the capability 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.439 of being connected to the internet. So the physical delivery 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.640 of the ballots and the equipment from the bipartisan poll 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.720 workers to the bipartisan teams at the Board of Elections, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.000 so it takes a little time for them to come in. 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.800 So we'll usually we have a few early pickup locations 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.240 will actually send teams out from the board so we 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.360 can have some results trickling in early. You know, usually 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.720 between eight thirty and nine, but the majority of those 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.880 ballots arrives at the board around so that's typically when 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.840 we start to see you know, most of the results 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.040 come in between nine thirty and ten thirty, and again 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.000 we always hope to be at one hundred percent, you know, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.640 before before eleven o'clock. We know it's a long day. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.760 We know everyone is anxiously awaiting and constantly hitting that 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.000 refresh button. But you know, a latch and officials will 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.360 never trade you know, security and accuracy for speed, So 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.480 I'll just have to be a little bit patient to 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.840 make sure their results coming in are accuracy. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.360 I know you have last minute preparations. You got to 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.240 go check the tires, make sure the dipstick has oil 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.200 in it. You got to go make sure the voting 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.840 machines everything's ready to go. You're a busy lady. I 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.080 always appreciate it talking to you and enjoy our conversations 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.120 and appreciate what you do for Democracy's an important thing, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.560 even especially in off years when you have lower turnout 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.200 and probably fewer workers to deal with, et cetera. So 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.480 all the best, Sherry poland thanks again for coming on 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.800 the show. How about a nice quiet Tuesday. Does that 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:54.320 sound good? 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:56.520 That sounds wonderful to me. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.760 It does. You've seen some stuff, yeah, we have. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.400 But we have a great team here at the Board 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.160 of Election. I cannot praise the staff here and now 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.800 if it's truly a place where Democrats and the Republicans 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.360 come together to do the people's work. So got to 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:12.320 have a shout out. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.040 To them all the best. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.840 Cherry, be well, good luck, Thank you, Sherry poland that 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.920 as you're a director Hamiley County Board of Elections and 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:21.520 love it. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.240 She's great. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.840 She's just a great personnel, a great person and really 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.240 cares about her job and the integrity of the election 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.720 above all else. So six thirty am Tuesday, if you're 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.000 an in person voter, go get it done. If you 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.280 already did it, like me, just sit back and wait 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.320 for results to come in. And I have no idea 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.160 what to tell Brian Combs. This is all about Colms 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.040 is like, Hey, you're talking to Sherry Paul. Ask her 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.400 when she thinks I can go home. It's all about him. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.160 You know, this democracy of two hundred and fifty years 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.440 still a long time, and we tabulate the elections and 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.320 sometimes they're contentious, sometimes we fight two thousand comes to mind, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.600 and basically they're in the ought So we had a 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.840 lot of contentious elections. Along came her voting kind of 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.720 eased the process, made a little bit easier. 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:04.000 You know. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:05.960 It wasn't like three or four o'clock in the morning. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.000 There weren't all these challenges and stuff like that, especially 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:11.960 on off here. We're not going to get that. All 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.800 Brian Combs wants to know, despite all of that history, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.440 despite it being the cornerstone of our constitution, of our 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.080 whal life here in America, one person, one vote, all 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.960 Brian Combs cares about is what time he can go 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:29.160 home and have a beer. Scott's Loan Show, seven hundred 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:35.720 World Slowly seven hundred w welw interesting. Sherry poland director 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.840 Hamlin County Goe just on the show last half hour. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.880 If you missed, it'll be on the podcast following the show. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:43.920 Yeah. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.000 The turnout so far, the projection is right around twenty 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.160 five twenty six percent, which is where we've been in 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.160 previous elections. I'm not that politically savvy to analyze it 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.000 and break it down like Chuck Todd and tell you 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:55.960 what all that means. And reading the Tea leaves because 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:00.000 generally even people like that are notoriously wrong about those projections. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.160 I don't know if that helps or hurts the incumbents, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.240 and that would be the members of council. But in particular, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.160 this is going to be somewhat of a referendum on 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.119 AFT have pure vol. Pure Vol most likely is going 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.159 to win. Right, you have incredible amount of funding. You 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.439 have the deep blue Democratic machine of Hamlin County and 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.920 therefore the city Cincinnati even deeper blue because you don't 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.359 have the outlying suburbs. Uh that in the fact you're 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.840 the incumbent. It's kind of an off year. There's not 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.400 really big issues out there. Yeah, maybe to some degree CPS, 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.240 but that's a renewal levee. Uh, nobody's really driving the 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.920 vote out here. Does that help or her to after 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.480 to have pure vol? But not AFT have because I 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.200 think he wins maybe a little closer than he'd like, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.439 for sure. And it's not an you know, it's certainly 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.720 not an indictment of Corey Bowman in his campaign. I 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.040 THO did a pretty good job, but there's baggage there 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.000 in deep blue Hamlet County. Being the brother of JD. 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:59.920 Vans and being a Republican. But I think though that 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.600 I would have been around long enough to maybe see 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.160 this is that you wonder though, if the voters aren't 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.320 going to take it out on Counsole. So you have 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.040 twenty six people running for nine seats, something's gonna give, 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.439 And I wonder what council looks like come Wednesday morning 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.040 at that point, or shockingly, what if the same nine 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.000 people or maybe I don't know, one or two change 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.320 the body of Counsole. I don't think you're gonna see 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.600 you know, we'll throw all the bums out kind of mentality, 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.840 but it's gonna be interesting. But the turnout, you think, 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.240 with crime being center stage, and I'll have Liz keating 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.680 on it later on the show, actually ten oh seven 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.840 this morning, I'll ask her specifically about what she's seeing 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.280 on the streets, because she's working really hard, seeing a lot. 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.280 She's been really aggressive campaigning, a lot of money behind her, 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.200 a lot of TV ads, a lot of print, a 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.120 lot of social media signage and stuff like that. So 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.159 she's really leaning her shoulder in this wan. I'd be 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.200 surprised if she doesn't win a seat at this point. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.359 As hard as she's worked and also the track record 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.400 and say what she says about all this stuff. And yesterday, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.159 of course the drama, the steady direct from city council. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.440 It's like, people go, why are you still talking? Why 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.640 do you talk about this every day? Because every day 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.639 there's something new. You know, before the day before it 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.239 was well, now the city's hiring a law firm for 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.240 forty to fifty grand to find out why we fired 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.359 Terry Thigi after we fired her what And then yesterday 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.359 it was friends and family members of Terry Thigi wearing 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.040 I Support Chief thig t shirt showing up the council 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.840 and having their saying really going at city council. I 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.919 think there's a thing too for most people, you know, 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.320 average voters, people show up and that probably maybe just 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.520 every four years even for a presidential if that is like, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:41.080 don't understand how it all works with council that they 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.119 essentially control the purse strings. But okay, so Afteb's the 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.040 mayor and then you get cheer along the city manager 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.240 and then when they fire Thiji, Afteb says, well that's 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:50.800 a city manager. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:51.600 You're gonna have to hit her. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.200 And then the city manager says well, I can't really 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.080 comment the personnel issue. So you've got all these people 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.159 with just ample amounts of cover, and the mayor will 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.080 blame council, councilill blame the city manager's city manager blames 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.879 the council and it's just there's no accountability there. And 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.240 I think the core of it, that's what's frustrating that 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:13.240 in the just the dire the horrible lack of communication 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:20.280 from this administration on help plowing the streets, fixing the potholes. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.080 You know, they had a what was it in a 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.440 contest for people to come up with ways to let 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.639 the city know where the potholes are? Well, what the 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:32.720 hell is that? We had the big mac Bridge fire? 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.600 How is that handled poorly? You can't, of course expect 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.600 to have the city streets and now to wash with 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.800 traffic when you close a major artery like that. I 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.000 get that, but it took two weeks before anybody said, oh, yeah, 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.520 we probably should come up with a plan here. And 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.520 I could go on and on about the violence this summer, 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.399 and that's what voters are staring at. We'll find out 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.320 on Tuesday, as they say, and I know that goes 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.560 without saying, but I'm interested see what the fallout is 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.040 from this whole thing, if any, because I'll be honest 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.520 with you, if nothing really changes here and you're in 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.159 the city and you're concerned about this stuff, and just 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.000 vote for these same people you've always voted for, you 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:07.760 know what, I don't get it. We just had a 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.760 no King's protest and there's a lot of overlap. You Now, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.080 there are different different beliefs, but there's a lot of 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.679 overlap between what we're talking about with the mayor of 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.240 Cincinnati and the President of the United States, And so 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.800 if you're really anti one, I don't know how this 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:25.320 isn't creep in and go, wow, we've got a leadership 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.639 problem in this country, whether it's Democrats or Republicans for 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.600 that matter, anyway more than that ten oh seven list 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.200 keating Council. I'm looking to get back into council here, 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.040 and we'll get to her coming up in just a 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.320 few here on seven hundred WLW. You don't one of 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.200 my chronic complaints, the bitch and moan factor. I don't 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:40.720 know if it's a complaint real, it's observation. 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:41.040 Right. 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.160 I went to college, my wife went to colle who 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.679 met a college, went to university, did what we're supposed 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.320 to do, because back in the eighties I would not 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.359 particularly bright as you know back then, but you just 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.720 needed like a pulse and a number two pencil, like 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.960 yeah you got those two things. Ah yeah, okay, come 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.560 on and we'll take you today a whole different thing. 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.320 You know, even a I don't under say the great 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.719 point average. Generally a four point is a good perfect. 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.680 Now we've got people with above a four point grade 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.000 point average and still can't get into their core classes 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:11.280 or a program to study because we have made college 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.840 more important than it should be. And I say that 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.480 not because I think college is a wasted time, waste 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.840 of money. It is for some people. We still need 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.960 people in the stems, and there's still doctors and nurses 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.560 and engineers and mathemagicians and the real fingers out there. 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.520 But the problem is when you allowed the federal government 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.280 to come in and make money off of this through 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.080 federalizing the loans and the whole scam, and I'll call 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.600 it the college scam, where you have people coming in 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.000 not knowing what they're going to do. You know, it 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.040 used to be go in and change your major eleven 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.000 times and you know you have your loan paid off 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:43.520 in a recentable bond of time. It still took my 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.800 wife and I and we graduated in the early nine 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:50.120 well late late daies, early nineties, it still took us. Yeah, 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.120 it wasn't quite ten years, but took us a while 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.400 to pay those loans off. Now more chance do you have. 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:57.960 And I think that's part of the problem. You know, 0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.880 if you go in you're gonna go get a degree 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:01.880 in medicine or something, but you're still going to get 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:05.600 like a philosophy degree or archaeology or art history or 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:07.679 something like that. I mean, why are we still offering 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.280 those majors? And it's not an indictment of one university. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.119 It's a system. It's the entire system. 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.920 But if you don't think it's about money, it's about 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.399 higher education and the best way I don't know. I 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.040 got a call like it is. So our friends at 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:25.679 Zavier University have changed how the campus living requirement is. 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.919 So starting fall of next year, if you go to 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.520 X you need to live on campus now for three years. 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.000 And that applies to students ages seventeen to twenty one. 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.200 If you're commuting or living with a parent or Guardian, 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.920 different story, but they're going to force you to stay 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:44.320 on campus now for an extra year. And unfortunately, students 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.679 are not happy about this because I think the student 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.600 body president said it's the most unpopular policy changed by far, 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.600 because they never asked us. We found about it on 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:58.120 social media. Let's just and Xavier says, no, no, no, no, no, 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.280 this is not this is not about money. It's this 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.920 is what future students want and families want, and it's uh, 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.320 it pays benefits because we tend to get higher graduation 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.480 rates and there's a sense of community and other school 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.360 but other schools are doing I always hate that other 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.360 schools are doing it, you know, Georgetown and Notre Dame 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:20.360 are doing it. I'm not quite sure because I'm looking 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:25.240 at the numbers going off campus rent is according to 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.200 the story, about five fifty a month. 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.880 Right right around that. That's a sweet spot. 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:35.359 Off campus, and then that's a on campus housing. 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.640 They're getting up to like fifty six hund do per semester. 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:39.879 So I add that up. 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.959 Okay, that's five to fifty a month, five fifty six 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.560 hundred for semester. But you're still talking, you know, just 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:51.360 basic math, that's ten times more than rent. But all right, 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.320 so a semesters three fee, Yeah, you know you're still 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.199 paying a quite a high premium here, and you know 0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.920 it's between twenty seven hundred and fifty six hundred per semester, 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.120 depending what kind of room you have, versus five fifty 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:07.960 a month. And that's a substantial price difference right there. 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.800 And you know, I'm sorry when when you know you're 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.399 dealing with and Xavier's open about this, dealing with an 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.320 operating budget. They're trying to figure out a new way 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.800 to address the shortfall and the tuition revenue. When it 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.800 starts to go in the other direction, though, what does 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.120 that mean? You've got all these shiny business of these buildings. 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:26.640 You have. 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.440 Professors and administrators and staff you want to keep home 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.040 and pay them and keep the lights. And there's a 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.439 lot of overhead with this thing. But yeah, I don't know. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.520 Now we're going to go going to force students stay 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.240 on campus because I think it's gonna work, It's gonna 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:40.240 be high retention rates. 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:42.520 I don't know if I'm buying that. 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.959 I look at it more pragmatically than that, and go, 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:47.720 I think it's about money. I think it's about about 0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.400 jault wanting to keep that cash because you move off campus. 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.560 Now I'm not living the dorm. I'm living I'm doing 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.800 my and what I went through it. I think at BG, 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.000 when I was in the back in the day, it 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.000 was two years and even. And then I thought that 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.639 first semester, you know, first year school, you're a freshman. 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:05.119 You don't know what's going on, especially me. I was 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:06.359 the first one in my family to go, so I 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.679 had no guidance whatsoever. Just kind of is like feral 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.320 and back. But after that first year, you kind of like, Okay, 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.000 I got this down. And by the second, like the 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.240 first end of the first semester, second year in the dorm, 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:18.959 you're like, I, you know, I can't wait to get 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.600 the hell out of here. I can't wait to get 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:24.439 my own apartment. I can come and go as I please, 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.239 and there's no ra and I could do we can 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.000 you know, you can do beer, you know, get a 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.680 keg and beer bongs and kegstands and smoke weed and 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.480 stuff you can't do anymore because I think they send 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.320 you to guantanamo if you sip a beer under the 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.399 age of twenty one. Nonetheless, that's what we're faced with 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.560 and so that was like, yeah, two three years is 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.119 just there's no reason for that builds a sense of community. 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.040 I you know what, it's four years of my life, okay, 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.720 and I have great I still have friends from college, 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.159 sure that I don't talk to all that often, but 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.760 still friends, and I probably should talk to them more. 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:56.680 But at the same time, it's like, okay, I build 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.560 that sense of community that was not a dorms. I 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.399 was like extra cricketer kind of stuff. So I look 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.119 at this and go, yeah, it just feels like a 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.639 money grab to me. And I'm kind of with the 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:08.600 students on that one. And it's tough enough to pay 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.359 for college. I got to pay more because you're forcing 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.199 me at gunpoint to stay on campus. 0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:12.840 I don't know. 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.000 And maybe because it's a Jesuit private institution, maybe there's 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.439 something there, but I don't. At least at a public school. 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.560 It feels different to me. And we're starting to see, 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.040 you know, as we have few and fewer people. I 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.439 heard a story I forgot where I heard this that 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.640 for the first time ever. I was in news yesterday 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.160 and I forget who was saying it. But the first 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.520 time in our two hundred and fifty years of existence 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.399 as a country. We have more people aged sixty and 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:41.760 older than people I think it was eighteen and older. 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.639 So you know, we're getting a lot older, agetting a 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.560 lot gray, or is the point, and fewer people going 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:50.200 to college at least for an extended period of time 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.240 before we start to have more babies or more immigrants 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.399 with kids. Colleges are going to suffer from this, and 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.120 you wonder what that's going to look like with the contraction. 0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.560 I would think that, and we're seeing it ready. Some 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.800 colleges simply not gonna be able to survive. And you're 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.280 also going to have to look at quite honestly, and 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:04.520 they should and should have done this for a long 0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.840 time when they're fat and happy. Didn't have to now 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:08.240 all of a sudden when you're looking for people to 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.160 show up like it was when I was a kid. Right, 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.520 because it's about population trends, you're not gonna have to 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.359 be as selective to go to school. So maybe the 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.240 days of a pulse and number two pencil are back 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.159 in vogue. But it wouldn't be a number two pencil 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.000 because that's old. I guess it would be a I 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:27.359 don't know, a cell phone and a tablet and a pulse. 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.800 So we're starting to see the effects now of the shutdown. 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.359 I've been talking about this the past few days, and 0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.240 the SNAP benefits expiring on Saturday, and you know, the 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.120 political will power standing your ground and Republicans are saying, nope, 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:39.880 we're not moving on this. 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.480 Democrats say nope, we're not moving on this. In the meantime, the. 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.400 Rest of us, the taxpayers, get screwed because our side 0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.520 has to win at all costs. Rather than governing and 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.440 representing us and doing the hard work of governing, it's 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.280 easier to simply draw a line in the sand and 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:55.200 say we're not going to cross this. 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.920 So for principle, but we're starting. 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.680 To see the effects going from the eater at the 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.360 beginning for the first few weeks of this thing, to 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.200 actual damage or people get hurt anyway, and it would 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.320 be the SNAP people for sure. And now we're starting 0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.560 to see those members of the federal workforce and contractors 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.600 that get paid. And now air travel is getting to 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.800 be a problem here, seven thousand flights today, the delayed 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.360 nationwide on Monday. Air traffic controls. I mean, look at 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.400 it this way. If you say what you want about 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.240 federal workers, and when we do, we do need some 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.840 federal workers. We have, for example, right in the listening 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.240 area right in our backyard here our good friends in Dateon, 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.200 which I considered just like you know, we're a big 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.360 radio station. We get a lot of listeners in Dayton 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:38.080 as well. You got right pat Air Force Base and 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.440 all the businesses around there. All those people suffer because 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.960 people aren't spending money, and that hurts the bottom line, 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.880 That hurts the economy, It hurts working folks. The FAA 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.240 is saying staffing shortages and ground delay programs at Newark, 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.520 close to Cousin to close Austin. Now I see some 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:53.960 of the big it used to be like the little ones. 0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.840 We're like, oh, okay, so you know, maybe Louisville has 0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.160 a little bit of a problem for a bit. I know, 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.360 Nashal bigger city for sure, but you know, it's not 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.040 affecting the major airports. And now we're starting to see, Okay, Newark, 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.040 which is always jacked up. Newark's the worst headache in America. 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.960 But Dallas, now we're starting to see this. And yeah, 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.800 when you start not paying people because of the shutdown, 0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.720 people are saying, well, I'm not going to show up 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.720 to work. Now. You know, if you're an official, you 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:20.480 have to show up. You just have to do that. 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.760 I don't understand that, Like, wait, wait a minute, a lot. 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.200 I did the job where you don't pay me, and 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:26.760 you don't pay me for a couple of weeks and 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.760 then you still expect me to show up. What am 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.760 I stupid? What was I born yesterday? I mean I 0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:34.360 might do that for a minute or two, but by 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:35.920 and large, I think most people are like, yeah, how 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:36.520 many sick days? 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.600 I got? How many vacation days? Because this is stupid. 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.480 I don't even know if I'm ever going to get paid. 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.120 And this is important because we're heading into the fall 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.440 travel season. You're not quite the Thanksgiving yet. We got 0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.160 a few weeks that you just wonder how much longer 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.320 it's going to go. It doesn't seem like they have 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.320 the political impasis to get this thing done anytime soon. 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.800 But yeah, once you get into and the reason why 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.480 these things last about thirty days, because then people start 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.720 to really know it's not just the inconvenience of a 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.160 park being shut down, or trash not getting paid or 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.200 a lawn not getting cut now you start to see it. 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.320 You know, the impact be a little bit deeper here. 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.320 And when it comes to the snap benef it's simply 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.200 a freestore food bank. I occurred riber on the show 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.400 on Monday and he had his appeal out there, We're 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.080 gonna have to hand out more meals and we just 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.520 we're gonna try. We're gonna squeeze our venders a little 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.200 bit more and try to get more money and more 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:23.840 meals out there and more donations. 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:24.920 Hopefully you consider it. 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.880 Do Nation of the free store food Bank because they 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.720 do great work in like twenty counties in our area. 0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:31.520 But that's not going to be enough to fill the 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.280 void here. It is simply is not going to And 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.440 you know it has to do with up politics and dronaline. 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.600 I get it. You know the ACA is jacked up. 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.360 Should we be using subsidy to pay for healthcare benefits? No, 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.640 it just makes it more expensive. But then have an alternative, 0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.000 have a plan. And that's the problem. We shut down 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.080 government and we don't have a plan for fixing why 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.320 we're shutting government down in the first place. So it 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.160 seems to me like you'd want to get back in 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.600 there and actually work the problems instead of pointing the 0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.760 finger at the other guy saying it's his, fat, her fault, 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.440 and actually work for the American people, which is the 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.120 problem I have with politics, and a lot of people do. 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.400 It's exhausting and it's painful for a lot of folks, 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.080 for sure. There's just no way around it. You can 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.720 talk about who's getting snapped benefits and the legal aliens, 0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.840 and that's all well and good, but the bulk of 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.520 people that are getting those benefits are senior citizens. A 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.680 number of them are veterans, but a lot of them 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.040 are working families where you're working two or more jobs 0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.600 and you need that assistance to get by. That's the 0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.960 reality of it. So I don't know how this fixes it. 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.280 But you can say they should be getting it, or 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.440 this person should be getting it. That's all well and good. 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.200 That's the system that's set up. And if you don't 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.400 like it, then change the damn system. Do you do 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.640 that by not getting together in meeting? And the answer 0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:43.400 is new It is not five new arrests now made 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.520 in connection with a louver heist. We've got enough going on. 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.400 Had to pay attention without worrying about Paris. But I 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.800 think it's just just a fascinating things. They continue to 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.200 make more and more investigations and by the way, still 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.040 no sign and what they stole, I don't know. I'm 0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.400 Italian enough to go. They melt that stuff down, they 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.800 whacked up the those rocks, and they're they're all around 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.040 the world right now. I want to think that's the case, 0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.560 Like that's why they stole the jewels in the first place. 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.480 Instead of artwork. You don't steal the Bona Lisa, you 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.640 steal the crown jewels and it's you know, once you 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.200 start breaking those up, yeah, you know they're worth what 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.400 one hundred and two million dollars with the eight jeels 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.360 as they stole they ate, I guess settings whatever you 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.800 call them things different pieces that they stole, I guess yeah, 0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.360 they're gonna be but they're still gonna be worth millions 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.360 of dollars because you're talking about rare gemstones. And now 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.440 they have five people so and now the place are saying, uh, 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.720 it may not be an inside job after all, which 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.280 I think is interesting. It seemed like it would be 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.320 an inside job. But the cameras are turned the wrong 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:40.720 way and a whole bunch of stuff you know you 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.840 got ladders up against the wall. If somebody didn't know 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.360 something on the inside there, we'll find out. But five 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.840 more rests of this ring. It's certainly as fascinating, that's 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:48.240 for sure. 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:48.760 All right. 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.640 We got weather it's going to rain at least for 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.040 the next few hours here, and then we drive for 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.520 the kiddos on Halloween tomorrow, and got the time change 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.160 happening this weekend and so much more so, it's an 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.560 election coming up on Tuesday. Liz Keating is looking for 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.680 your vote. And she examined she having been on council. 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.120 I guess she's a great person, asked this question. It's 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.880 not about, you know, having her on to promote her 0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.440 agenda what she wants to do, which I think is refreshing. 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.120 But this is more about why is some council pushing 0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.720 back on the mayor and the city manager? 0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.080 Why maybe some answer for us? 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.000 Next Scottsland Show on the Home of the Best Bengals 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.640 coverage seven hundred WWT since then, want. 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.280 To be an American? 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.279 On Thursday morning here seven hundred ww Good news is 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.080 we dry up this afternoon. We dry up this afternoon 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.400 and looks good for trick or treaters tomorrow, right, so 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.320 we care about weekend looks good? Uh So yesterday the 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.960 steady drip and it is literally a soap opera. 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:41.640 Down at City Hall. 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.120 A couple dozen families and friends of Chief Terry Thiji 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.399 showed up to council wearing I stand with Police Chief 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.360 Thigi t shirts and they pretty much read after a 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.560 pure val sherlong and council the riot Act. So you 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.960 had family members there and obviously they love and care 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.520 about Terry Thiji and demand that she get a fair 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.480 hearing and the city. And the hard part about this 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.799 is like very few people, I say, Seth Walsh, I 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:09.000 had councilperson and Albion yesterday and she was demure about 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.960 but you know, she's still commented on it. But by 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.919 and large it's been really really quiet down there. Family 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.160 members slam the investigation now, calling into her leadership in 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.720 the question and after the fact that it's political and secretive, 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.560 and they're right about that. But the soap opera continues 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.560 down at City Hall, and one wonders what happens on 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.640 Tuesday on election day. Liz Keating is a former council member. 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.160 She's running yet again, and she has been hitting the 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.000 streets pretty hard. I keep seeing all her campaign I 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.040 think Liz keating by the way, Liz, welcome. I see 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.839 a lot of your ads, and you're spending a lot 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:41.520 when it comes to getting the message out. 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.160 We are working our tails off. We want to get 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.160 back there and get things back in order in Cincinnati, 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.680 so we are doing everything we can to get back. 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.920 I love this city too much to see it the 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:54.879 way it is right now. 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.040 You're out campaigning here on the street. What are people saying. 0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.640 Everybody is talking about crime. Literally every neighborhood does. No 0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.239 matter what neighborhood we are in, people are concerned about 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.720 the crime. They are concerned about basic services and getting 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.359 no response from city hall. And honestly, that's why we're 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.600 running crime and the causes of crime, and get back 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.320 to being able to actually plow snow when it snows, 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.239 and pay the roads and fill the potholes, and get 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.520 rid of the litter, and take care of city property 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.400 so it's not overgrown and full of graffiti, which are 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.080 all things that again attract crimes. You know, just do 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.720 the basics, the fundamentals of local government. 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.399 I noticed that not too long ago, a few weeks ago, 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.319 there was a summit where they had a contest to 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.480 come up with unique ways to let people know that 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.120 the potholes have been filled on. 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:38.879 It's just another one. 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.360 It's like, the pothole problem has been going on for 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.120 a long time, and it's literally decades of neglect, right 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.560 and we're taking money from the sale of the railroad 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.360 and that's going to go in the streets and paving 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.840 over potholes. But right up in like ninety days before 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:55.040 the election, all of a sudden, they went gangbusters on 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:55.800 fixing potholes. 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:56.880 Do you think that's a coincidence. 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.239 I don't think it's a coincidence. But if you look 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.200 a long term, even the money from the railroad, the 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.000 city has not been able to deploy that money very 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.960 quickly to pave the roads. If you have all this 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.160 money coming in, you need to be prepared. You need 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:11.920 to be able to get the RFPs out, you need 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.000 to be able to get the contract signed, and you 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:15.839 need to get the workers on the roads. I mean, 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.080 these are tons of jobs which again one get paychecks 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.480 going home to families to support more families, So that's 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.920 tax revenue right back to the city. And these are 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.720 fundamentals that they cannot get right right now, and there's 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.520 no conversation from Council like where are these special meetings 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.920 being held? Where are the questions? Where are you holding 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.800 the administration accountable? Say, why aren't these dollars getting deployed 0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.240 and we've got to hold up and getting these contracts together? 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.680 Then what changes do we need to make legislatively? You're 0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:46.759 just not seeing Council act on these fundamentals. They're just 0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.719 not doing their job, and I'm beyond frustrated by it. 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.359 It is telling that so few people are speaking out 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.880 and questioning the administration how they handle the thig thing. 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.759 And it's not just that it's you know, there's no 0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.920 crime plan. I have a crime plan, for sure. I 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.719 think it's too little. It's not aggressive enough that you're 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.960 looking at outliers or not the root cause of this thing. 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.880 I mean, when you go after food trucks instead of 0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:11.040 the criminals, it can continue to ruin our city. 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:12.200 That's telling. 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.600 You're punishing good business owners and people that just simply 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.120 want to taco at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.759 you're gonna get a bad element that might show up 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.759 and do that, but it's your job to separate the 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.680 bad element from the good element. You know, if I 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.160 go to a club, or I go to a bar, 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.600 or I got a concert, whatever it is, and I 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:26.880 get out and go damn, I'm hungry. 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.520 Hey there's a food truck, it's midnight or whatever. 0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:31.880 I'm gonna get a cony dog, I'm gonna get a 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.440 slice of pizza, a burger, whatever the hell it is, 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.600 and go home, go to bed, fat and happy and 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.600 entertain Now they're gonna take that away from the good 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.120 people all because it's a very small percentage of people 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.200 causing all this nonsense. 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:45.439 That's what I'm talking about. 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:45.520 It. 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.880 It's the lack of a it's not leaning into the 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.200 resources of the state because the optics that makes it 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.319 look bad. If crime is a problem, you stamp it out, 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.200 You send a message we're not going to tolerate this. 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.560 But the more that the Him and Haw live is 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.440 keeping the worst crime gets because all you're doing is 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.799 enabling that percentage of criminals who are looking to take 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.160 opportunities to the to the to the extreme, and we're 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:07.200 seeing that constantly. 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:13.480 Now, you cannot go after small businesses because you've got 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:18.000 a crime problem. You've got to tackle the root causes 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.359 of it. You've got to be tough on the actual crime. 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.160 You've got to support the police officers and the chief 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.920 and give them room to actually activate. They are the 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.520 expertsus is their profession. You've got to give them room. 0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.560 You can't politicize the police department. You can't shut down 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.279 small businesses because you've got a problem. You've got to 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.520 figure out what the real problems are and take care 0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.560 of that. Go after the criminals. And again, if we're 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:43.400 sending a signal thing we are not open for business 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.279 for your small businesses, for these mom and pops, it's 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.720 saying that we don't want paychecks going home to families, 0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.279 We don't want to support small families. It is just 0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:54.799 absolutely absurd. And you're not seeing counsel go after this 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.320 in the right way. It took them week to start 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.600 asking questions when they started getting political pressure to do so. 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.759 You need to enact right away. It is not that 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.480 hard to ask these questions and committee and you don't 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.880 have to burn the place down. You can hold administration 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.680 accountable and have a productive debate and get things moving 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.799 in the right direction. And you're not seeing that. You're 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.640 constantly seeing no comment no comment, no comment, no comment. 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:19.799 Why is that? 0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.320 Why are work Quiest Council is so afraid to point 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.320 the dirty end of the stick at AFTAB and sure. 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:28.120 Along, I think it's because we've got an election right now, 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:32.080 and that's part of the problem. I want elected officials 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.120 who are willing to face the facts and then start 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.160 tackling the problems. And right now, no one wants to 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.520 talk about the fact. No one wants to talk about 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.080 the problems because they're up for election. When you're in 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.600 an incumbent and things aren't going well, it's the problem. 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.000 But we need elected officials at city Hall who are 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.560 willing to face those facts and get right down to 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.400 business to fix them. You have to be relentless in 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.640 solving problems all the time. You have to be willing 0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.480 to accept the fact that things aren't going to go 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.200 right because it's never going to be perfect. We do 0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.439 not live in a world where we are where things 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.480 are perfect. You have to have leaders who are willing 0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:09.720 to fight and continue to solve those problems. 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:10.520 What are they afraid of. 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.200 It's politics. It's politics. They don't want to look bad, 0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.640 they don't want to be challenging anybody. They're afraid to 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.640 pick their nose out on stuff, and that doesn't enact get. 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.080 You elected if I mean, I've kind of been that 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.319 guy in my whole life. If you stand up for 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.239 what's right and you have values, you go listen. We're 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.480 not going to tolerate this, this secrecy, this incompetence. We're 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.440 not going to tolerate the indecision. We want answers. I thought, yes, 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.840 counsel this week, they did a great job poking the 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.120 bear when it came to the food truck thing, saying well, 0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:43.080 this is stupid. There's no evidence that this is encouraging crime, 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.680 and they really push back on it. Why can't you 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.879 do that when with Chief Thiji or crime or whatever 0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.000 it is. I just I don't know. It's politics. Yeah, 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.759 but how does that cost you anything? By doing what 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.719 people sent you to city Hall to do? 0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.880 It doesn't cost you anything, no what you're supposed to do. 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.080 But I mean, it took weeks to hear from them 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.440 on food trucks. The food trucks were shut down. Administration 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:08.120 made that what was it like a month ago? And 0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.279 it took this long and this many news stories and 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.239 this much political pressure to actually get something out of it. 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.480 I mean, it's insane. This is not how we need 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.000 to be operating as a city. We need much better 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.480 leadership down there, and we need people who are not 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:25.120 afraid to ask the tough questions and hold administration accountable. 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.160 And that's what I did before, and that's what I 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:28.400 want to go back and do again. 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:34.880 Liz Keating on that the accountability thing strikes me that I, 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.799 as a citizen, someone to pays attention to this stuff. 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.959 And I can't imagine how citizen feels. You've almost got 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.319 You've got these enemies, You've got AFTAB, puer Vault, you've 0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.120 got share Along, the city manager, and you got counsul 0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.719 No one knows who reports to, who who is responsible. 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.840 There's all sorts of cover, there's excuse making, there's no 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.600 accountability because AFTAB goes, Well the chief got fired. No, 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.120 that was share along and share along. Well, you know, 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.520 I don't have a comment because it's a personnel issue. 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.840 Well what about console don't they have? We don't because 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.120 it's the mayor. Well, the mayor says it's a city manager. 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.840 The city manager says it's council. Council says it's a 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.720 city manager, who then points the finger at city Council 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.160 and the mayor's who's running the show. 0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:16.440 You know what, Council votes on city dollars. They vote 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.200 on the spending, they appropriate the money. It takes two 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.080 members of council to call a special session. They easily 0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.080 could have called a special session and say, hey, we 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.160 are not going to pay for the switch hunt. We 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.880 are not going to make taxpayers space spend fifty thousand 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.560 dollars to hire an outside firm to investigate to try 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.480 to find a reason to fire somebody after you've already 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.840 asked them to resign, after you've tried to start this. 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.040 Council can step in and do this because they have 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.080 the power to do so, and they have done nothing. 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.920 They have done absolutely nothing, and so many of them 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.280 for the first week or two we're constantly saying no comment, 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.799 no comment, no comment, and again like just exactly what 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.600 you're saying, pointing fingers. This is council's responsibility, Council's job. 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.160 They are in charge of spending, they vote on the spending. 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.120 They can shut this down immediately, and they have it. 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.520 Former council member Liz Keening is running yet again, one 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.920 of the twenty six that seek your vote on Tuesday 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.560 or perhaps earlier here too, and we definitely need some 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.000 new blood in city council. There's no question somebody's going 0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.880 to hold folks accountable rather than just you know. I 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.400 illustrated this before last weekend. Last two weekends ago, we 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.279 had the No King's rally. It's all about Donald Trump, 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.000 a bunch of people with different grievances, and granted, Trump 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.839 brings out grievances and people, for sure, even Republicans totally 0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.920 understand that that's part of his nature. Maybe also part 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.560 of his attraction. I'm not quite sure. But all these 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.200 aggrieved people showing up with different causes and the one 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:34.440 thing in common is Donald Trump. 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:35.920 But no kings. He's a king. He's a king. 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.000 I don't know, when you talk about cronyism, when you 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.840 talk about no accountability, when you talk about ignoring problems 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.400 and focusing other things, how many of those people are 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.160 going to turn around and vote for the exact same 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.279 thing they protested against two weeks ago in. 0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.719 After pierreval I hope not. 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:54.080 I hope people do not continue to vote all one ticket, 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:54.920 all one party. 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:56.520 God will, but they will. 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.240 Candidates you have to, you have to look at it. 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.480 If people want the same thing that they've gotten, then 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.160 go for it. But I think Cincinnati deserves so much better. 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.760 They deserve so much better. And that's why I'm running, 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.279 because I am sick and tired of seeing what's going 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.680 on down there, and I think Cincinnati deserves better. And 0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.759 I'm going to go back and fight and actually do 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.000 the job that I was elected to do before. And 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.480 I plan on being elected again and go back and 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:22.080 do that again. 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.479 Yeah, and I think you know, back to know there's 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.080 there's no plan, and it is a plan, but it's feckless. 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.520 The plan it doesn't have enough tooth. The plan doesn't 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.040 have enough bite. You don't want to execute. You don't 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.160 want to you're afraid you're gonna upset people like maybe 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.879 Iris Rawley that I don't understand. But I think even 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:38.839 bigger than that, and the real issue I have, and 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.439 if I were to maybe articulate a little bit better 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:44.000 when it comes to you know, sure along and after 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.160 a Periodal and Council and everyone's pointing the finger at 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.239 everybody else is the lack of communication from the administration. 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.400 I mean, let's go back. We were talking about potholes. 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:56.160 But what about snowfall, right, how many streets weren't plowed 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.359 and that took weeks later or finally they'd admitted we're 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.359 not going to plow every street in Cincinnati. O up, 0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.760 just a second. I pay property taxes. I'm paying my taxes. 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.880 Those taxes fund snow removal. Now you're telling me I 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.600 don't get an essential city service because you decided to 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.360 do something else with the money. Makes no sense whatsoever. 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.400 That's Malfeason's big mac Bridge fire. That thing happened. We 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.080 had traffic gridlocked downtown for a couple of weeks before 0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.680 council and the mayor even acknowledged that we had that 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.000 problem in the first place. I don't expect the city 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.840 streets to be fine after you close one a major bridge, 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.600 a major thoroughfare, But there was no communication on that. 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.680 People were one Achille. I'm surprised we don't have a 0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.520 fatal road rage incident over that. Get some cops, get 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.880 some people down, Get I don't get pull some ambassador 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:40.800 off the Fountain Square had people direct traffic during. 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:41.799 Rush How they didn't do that. 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.359 The Patrick Herringer thing as another fumble summer slam where 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.960 we've got a beatdown going viral across the world in 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.600 downtown Cincinnati, and the mayor decides to go on vacation 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.680 the day after this thing goes viral and then not 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.680 be around and then just have the city manager and 0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.640 the chief talk about it. Then the chief thiji incident. 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:02.000 It's a steady pattern of incompetence due to a lack 0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:02.719 of communication. 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:03.600 That's the problem. 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.239 Nobody knows what's going on down there, and when they 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.840 respond to something, either they don't respond and simply ignore 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:11.799 it because it doesn't make them look good, or they 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.319 wait too damn long to have response to it. 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:16.480 That's a fair criticism of AFTAB and sure. 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.440 Along and city Council and city council. You are not 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.400 hearing from council members. Their job is constituent affairs. They 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.000 should be responding to the community when people are reaching out. 0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:28.360 You talked about this now storm. I had schools to 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.520 reach out because the streets haven't been plouned in schools 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:33.839 can't open to get the kids back in school for days, 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.200 and they heard nothing back from city Hall. We heard 0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.279 from residents. They came back and said there were over 0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.680 six hundred streets that hadn't even been touched six hundred 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.879 streets and the City of Society hadn't even been touched, 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:46.839 and no one knew, and no one at city Hall 0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.680 was calling these residents back when they're asking when they're 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.360 finally going to get their streets cleared. There are so 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.800 many incidents where residents are calling their council members, reaching 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.919 out to their council members to get help, whether it's 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.360 trash pick up, or there's litter everywhere or been no 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.560 legal jumping. They need their streets close that they can 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.200 get back to work, and no one calls them back. 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.120 And that's so for the last nearly two years, since 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.680 I have been just a regular citizen, I am still 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.719 fielding calls from resident because they are trying to get 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:18.440 help because our elected officials and city council they are 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.480 not doing their job and solving the problems that they 0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.440 were elected to solve, and so it takes a resident. 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.480 And that's why I'm getting back in this because you've 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.600 got to go back. You have to be responsive to 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:29.799 the community. You have to be able to take care 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.120 of these basic services. And if we are not taking 0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.160 care of the basics, we are going to fail out 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.520 the big things which we have seen when it comes 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:38.960 to crime and tackling crime and the way that we've 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.879 handled these massive stories whereas a lot of people are 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.640 freaked out and a lot of things are going on, 0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.240 things crumble. If you can't take care of the basics, 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.120 if you can't fill that foundation, you're going to have 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.440 a big problem later and we've seen that play out 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.920 now least you have to have council members or responses 0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:56.000 lis Keating. 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:59.640 As you mentioned, council essentially controls the purse strings. They legislate, 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.480 they make rules to make laws and all that stuff. 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:03.560 Does there need to be some clarity and what the 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.120 city manager does and what the mayor does because as 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.320 a taxpayer, if I'm a taxpayer, I have no idea 0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.480 how that works. I think most people don't really follow 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.480 the intricacies of it. But there's also a problem there 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.120 if you have a strong mayor and you've got to 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.560 start council and you've got a city manager involved, it 0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:21.640 seems like everyone there's built in cover for incompetency and mistakes. 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:23.359 Is that like, well, I can point the finger at 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.160 the city manager or I can Hey, you know what, 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:26.560 I'm going to pull the pin out of the grenade. 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:27.400 And fire the chief. 0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:29.760 Even though the chief is the one taking the orders 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.800 from the mayor and the city manager city, she doesn't 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.960 dictate what the policy, what the focus is. When she 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:38.120 got hired, I bring this up because it's documented. She said, 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.919 listen the big issue here, and I talked to people 0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.040 by the interview with Iris Rawleigh, for example, and keep 0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.560 the collaborative agreement going. Okay, that's good, but I think 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.359 we've taken such kid gloves hands towards criminals and treat 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.839 them like victims when we victimize the victims even more 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.040 if that kind of makes sense. In fact, that Terry 0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.440 TJ now is just falling on the sword because of 0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:00.719 what we talked about. I think there's got to be 0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:03.520 I know it's a city charter issue. I know it's 0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:07.040 deeper than just this conversation, but damn it, you've got 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.880 you've got too many people who are allegedly making decisions. 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:12.279 Do we need a city manager for the mayor and 0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.920 what roles we may need to carve those roles out 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:16.880 a little bit more simply to avoid things like this 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:18.839 where we know what you're in charge of, what you're 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:19.279 going to do. 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:20.040 I'm sorry. 0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.040 The no common thing is wearing thin for a lot 0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:23.280 of people, myself included. 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.680 I couldn't agree more. But this is where you have 0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:30.719 to have elected officials on Sincinni City councils that know 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.759 their role. Right now, we are seeing council members who 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.600 are not acting in their role. They are they are 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:39.120 just they're saying, no comment, It's okay, it's not our job. 0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.720 It's or is that problem? That problem? That problem city 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:43.800 councils is. You've got to think of them as the board. 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.279 They do control the first strings. They can shut down 0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.640 spending on things anytime, they can pass legislation. They can 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.400 put in motions to guide the administration in a different direction. 0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:55.320 If they're not happy with it, they can call special 0:50:55.320 --> 0:51:00.080 meetings and actually ask questions, ask questions of administration and 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:03.040 to at least let the public better understand what's going on. 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:07.440 Their job is to hold administration accountable. Their job is 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.160 to make sure that the tax dollars are being spent 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.520 in smart and efficient ways. They are in charge of 0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.719 making sure that government is running smoothly, and you're not 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.400 seeing that at all. And that's why it's important to 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:22.279 have experience down there and people who are willing to 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.920 do the full job that they were elected to do. 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.319 Yeah, totally understandable. And I know a number of member 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.439 of councils. A number of people come on the show 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:32.360 quite frequently on a regular basis, and I hate to 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:35.160 see good people and I think they're good wind up 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.520 losing their job over But there's got it. I would 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.839 think Tuesday, there's going to be a political price to pay. 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:41.719 It's not going to be may or aft have pure 0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:46.040 of all. He's gonna win reelection for sure, but there's 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:47.439 council people are going to be out of a seat. 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.080 I think because of this whole thing you feel that. 0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:54.680 I feel that this campaign has been a completely different 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:58.040 vibe than I've ever seen and heard before. People are 0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:00.360 angry and that's not the kind of thing that I 0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:01.920 want to live in. I don't want to live in 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.759 a city where people are frustrated, people aren't getting the 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.760 services that we need. We can do so so much better, 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.640 and that's why we're working our tails off to get 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.640 back down there and get the city back in order. 0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:14.239 Well, if you don't demand accountability with your vote, you're 0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:15.680 going to get more of the same or worse, because 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:17.759 it's going to encourage more of the same misbehavior. 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:19.440 That is what's going to happen. To look at the 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:20.359 Terry Fiji thing. 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:23.200 We're going to fire her and then hire for forty 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.279 fifty thousand dollars a law firm to find out where 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:26.400 we fired her in the first place. 0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:28.160 Exactly. 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.560 I mean, do you want your text bit your tax 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:31.600 dollars being spent that way? 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:32.040 I don't. 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.319 I don't. And where where is counsel asking this question? 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:36.759 Where is council shutting this down? 0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:37.400 No, they're not. 0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:40.759 Where is council call even talking about this in committee meetings? 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.120 They're calling a special meeting. This is not take care 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.400 of the taxpayer dollars. There are so many things that 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:47.799 that money could go to that will be far more 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:52.480 effective in positive impacts on our neighborhood then spending it 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.520 on a witch hunt as an afterthought. 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.360 Well, we'll find out what happens on Tuesday. I'm interested 0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.960 like anyone else. I got the popcorn to see what happens. 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:00.879 I wish all the best. 0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:01.120 Liz. 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.399 Love talking to you, and I think your ideas are sound. 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.480 Good luck on Tuesday, right, Thank you, thank you. 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:08.440 Make sure you get out your vote Cincinnati, all. 0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.799 Right, six thirty am Tuesday, polls open, Liz Keating looking 0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:13.879 for your vote, among many others as well. I've been 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.480 members of council on to kind of, you know, want 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.320 to maybe off the record say these things, but are afraid, 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.080 for whatever reason, to poke the bear that is AFTAP 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:25.160 peer ball in administration ont way to carry so much juice. Look, 0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.120 everyone who makes mistakes, I understand that, but man, I 0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.680 just ran up a litany of problems just in the 0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:34.760 last several months, not even a year, and there's probably 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:36.920 many more I'm missing as well. There's got to be 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.120 someone sending a message saying this will not be tolerated. 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.759 We'll find out Tuesday. Sloaney seven hundred W got folling 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:44.919 back on seven hundred WI old. Everybody was talking about 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:48.000 new and fun and exciting things and joining the show 0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:50.879 this morning. I'm the big one seven hundred W. You're 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:54.600 talking about fitness and health and food and all that stuff. 0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:58.960 And Sanjay shave Crimani's on the show emergency medicine physician, 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:03.000 but also he's at Dine Well Dock Health Fitness and 0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.080 medicine guy. I think that we got to come up 0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:06.319 with a like the brand here. 0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.880 The Yeah, the problem is the brand keeps expanding more 0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:11.320 and more and I can't get focused. 0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:12.200 But that'll come in time. 0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:12.560 Okay. 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:14.839 So as an ear doc, before we get to the 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.840 topic at hand, which is the flu, and people already going, no, 0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:19.879 I don't need to hear about it. You just hit 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.439 the brakes for a second because you don't want the flu. 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:22.839 The flu. 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.040 Everyone's like, oh, I don't feel well. It's it's now, 0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.080 you know when you get the flu, it's a week. 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:28.880 Right. We'll get to that just in the second. 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.840 But first, as an eart doc, we have Halloween happening 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:33.839 on tomorrow as a matter of fact, So a little 0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:35.920 trick or traders up. When you work a shift in 0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:39.000 the er in the emergency department, what do you wind 0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:39.399 up to see? 0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:39.919 What do you see? 0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.480 Who presents with what on Friday and Saturday. So it's 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:45.840 it's a lot of things that you can imagine. But 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.520 I'll tell you my my funniest because this is going 0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:51.400 to avoid it's like all my kid and what you 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.200 typically see. Go okay, I won't do that so I 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:54.280 don't end up as a patient. 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.560 Yeah, well, I mean I'll tell you so, And it's 0:54:56.719 --> 0:55:00.399 it's all razor blades and can't I'm just kidding. It's 0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.040 it's clearly an urban myth, right, But I've never seen 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.319 anything like that. I've never seen like poisoning. It's it's 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:10.680 stuff you wouldn't expect. So, like, the most number, according 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.840 to a large study, was pumpkin carving accidents. And you 0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:15.839 would never think about it, but you know that may 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:17.600 not be on the night of trick or treating, but 0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:20.279 around it, and it tends to be the kids that 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.960 are playing around with sharp objects. Never a good combination, 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:26.640 and so trick or treating is the second part. But 0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:29.920 it's actually pumpkin carving the most interesting. Yeah, and I've 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:31.919 seen a couple of hand injuries from that, but never 0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:33.640 on Halloween night itself, because. 0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.000 People are already you know, done the damage. 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:40.360 You see like fractures and dislocations because kids are running 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.080 to get the next house, trip over the sidewalk. 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:42.319 Fall. 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:43.880 Yeah, we definitely see the falls. 0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:46.319 And the problem is, you know, it's it's nighttime, and 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:48.520 then they're wearing these costumes that might be a little 0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:51.800 bit long, but then they have masks or whatever covering 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.239 their face, so their peripheral vision isn't good and so 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.960 you do see the falls. It can get pretty nasty 0:55:57.000 --> 0:56:01.520 at times, but yeah, I haven't seen anything terrible on Halloween. 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:04.120 It ends up being kind of entertaining because everyone's coming 0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:07.600 in with their costumes on. Yeah, that's it's it's a 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:08.560 bunch of stories. 0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:08.600 All right. 0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:12.360 Pumpkin carving, fall, trips, falls, occasionally, motor vehicle act and 0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:15.000 probably as well adults. I'm guessing more alcohol related. 0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:17.600 You got it so unfortunately, and the alcohol gets behind 0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:20.400 the wheel sometimes and that combined with darkness and kids 0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:23.880 in costumes is a bad combination. So yeah, we do 0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:28.360 see some increase of pedestrians struck on on Halloween. 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:29.040 Gotcha sign? 0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:33.440 And okay, alcohol related incidents and I'm sure costume related. 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:37.160 Any costume related self strangulation, anything like that. 0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:42.919 Decapitation Fortunately, no decapitation yet. No, we don't see any 0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:46.920 anything crazy like that. Things do happen weird things with costumes, 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.560 but for the most part, no, Again, the costumes end 0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.520 up being kind of funny at times, especially when they 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:52.160 show up in them. 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.520 I got a guillotine costume I was walking around is 0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:56.120 actually you don't actually use a. 0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.840 Real guillotine for that. It's that's not a good I 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.239 will tell you though, when it comes to costumes. Remember 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.919 if you're gonna get really tipsy and spending a hire 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:09.160 night in the emergency department sobering up in your costume, 0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:12.600 remember that the Walk of Shame on November one is 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:14.920 not a fun one to take in a costume. 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.960 Especially if you got It's seriously, you got discharged like 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.360 two weeks later. Oh yeah, it's like yeah, and now 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.439 you have to wear a Halloween costume. Yeah, your whole 0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:22.080 chicken suit. 0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:23.440 Right. 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:25.560 And I'm glad you brought up the myth because I've 0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.520 been on this for years, for decades. Sanjay is the 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:30.920 whole And you were around long when they used to 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:33.120 bring your candy to the hospital and we'll x ray 0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.480 it for you were like, no one is putting needles 0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:37.800 and razor blades and can't. It's just that it may 0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:39.720 be an industrial act and there may be a couple, 0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:42.200 I know, one offs with really crazy people in the world. 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:43.920 I can't say it doesn't happen. But the idea that 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.640 you have to x ray your candy, it's all you 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.160 know what it is. It's big mom and dad? Is 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:49.760 what is the industry? A big mom and dad? Because 0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:52.080 all it's kind of funny, how like when my kids 0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:55.400 were little, all the Snickers had a razor blade in. Yeah, 0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.000 it's just a reason for me to steal their candy. 0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:01.080 Yeah exactly, Oh my god, yeah. 0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:03.919 Yeah, this is this is how the parents enjoy Halloween too, 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.200 is just by scaring their children, as if there's not 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:08.160 enough scares going on in Halloween already. 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:11.480 Can I have a sugar overdose? Is that possible? Can 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:12.080 I overdose? 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:16.480 Can you like like a classic overdose? Can you feel 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:19.480 like crap after eating a bunch of sugar? Absolutely? Yes, 0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:22.120 we all get that. But uh no, Halloween is the 0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:24.000 time to eat a decent amount of candy and find 0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:24.960 out where your limits are. 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.280 Yeah, that's my problem is. I'm like, I'm like a 0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:30.240 wild dog. I'm like a rabit dog. I'm just gonna 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:32.200 eat it all. Like we get the big Costco candy 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.440 and I'll pick through them, Like Michelle, quit buying all 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:35.200 that Costco candy. 0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:36.880 Well, we don't know how many kids. It's a new house. 0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:39.479 I'm like, listen, we'll buy one bag and when it's gone, 0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:40.720 the light goes off next it. 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:42.560 Yeah, stop doing this to me. But then there's no 0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:45.320 leftover Halloween candy. And that's why we love Halloween as 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.560 adults is freaking controls my problem. No, I just can't 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:50.360 say you're not alonee. 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:51.800 I'm right there with you. 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:53.160 All right. 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.680 So that's Halloween. Let's talk about cold and flu season. 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.440 I uh, five days ago got my received my vaccine 0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.400 for it. Went to my local right eight or no, 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.360 right eight. I went to right age no more? Is 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.360 it Walgreens or I don't save it. I think with 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.840 CBS actually rolled it up. Got my shots all good. 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.960 I do that every year, and I'm a proponent of 0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:14.080 the flu vaccine. A few folks in the hospital get it. 0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:16.120 I'm thinking that's probably a pretty good thing to get. 0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:19.600 Yeah, I you know, it's interesting. In training, I it 0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:22.440 was a optional thing. So you know, this is twenty 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:25.200 years ago. The flu shot was optional and I got 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.760 the flu my fourth year of residency, and so I 0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:30.320 have never looked back. I I get it every year 0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:33.440 since then because I just felt like trash for a 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.439 solid week. As a week I was laid up pretty good. 0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:39.080 And so I get it myself every year. Yes, because 0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:41.400 it's mandatory now, but happily. 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:43.440 I've gotten it for years and I think last year 0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:47.320 I actually still wound up contracting flu and I was sick. 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:50.000 I was like three days, I felt really bad past 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:51.560 the point and we'll get into you know what that 0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:54.640 diagnosis is. But I think I got Simpsons that wasn't 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:56.960 and I felt like, like crap. I think for four 0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:58.880 five six A and i'd like last for like the 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:01.240 effects last for two weeks after almost a month after, 1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:03.600 and I thought, wow, if I got that with the vaccine, 1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:05.440 what would have happened to me if I hadn't had 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:05.920 the vaccine? 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:08.520 Yeah, so the you know, people say, well I still 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:10.840 got the flu despite getting the flu shot, And it's true, 1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:14.400 it reduces cases of flu by only fifty percent, so 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:16.080 one out of every two times you're still going to 1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:20.000 get the flu. But it's obviously much more effective in 1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:22.440 preventing it. But then when you get it, it decreases 1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:24.640 the duration for like two to three days, and so 1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:27.840 your symptoms aren't as bad, they don't last as long. Yes, 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.400 you might still get the flu, but it's better than 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:32.040 not having it, you know, having a shot. 1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:33.840 And tan I think we look at it raw incorrectly. 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:35.640 You hear people is like, well I got the flu 1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:38.600 shot and I still got the flu, So it doesn't 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.480 it doesn't work well it does work, it's just not 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:44.720 one hundred percent accurate. It's not going you know, boiling 1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:47.960 water for ten minutes will kill the bacteria. That's science, right, 1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:50.240 You're going to do that. It's it's still a crab. 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:51.880 It's still a fifty to fifty shot. But if you 1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:55.720 get it, if you get the exact the symptoms ready less. 1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:57.400 And my point is like, well, god, I still got 1:00:57.440 --> 1:00:58.840 the flow. I'm not going to get a shot this year. No, 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:01.120 I'm definitely going to my shot because as sick as 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:04.000 I was last year, I could I probably go into 1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:04.520 the hospital. 1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:05.720 It could have been worse, it could have been a 1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:08.400 lot worse. And especially if you you know, very young, 1:01:08.560 --> 1:01:11.560 very old, those are the people that definitely need it 1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:15.200 because you know, the hospitalizations come mainly from the patients 1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:17.760 that are not vaccinated, and so the sickest of the 1:01:17.840 --> 1:01:21.320 sick are unvaccinated against the flu. So if you do 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:24.000 fall into those categories, or your immune system just isn't 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:26.640 good at baseline, yeah, definitely think about it. 1:01:26.760 --> 1:01:28.640 Yeah, and I look think it pretty healthy. I'm like 1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:31.280 that that really hit me. But then you hear like 1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:33.480 I was sick, I was sick yesterday, And back to 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:35.680 that because I had the flu. It's like, that's not 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:38.120 the flu, right, it's gastrointertis. It's it could be a 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:39.840 bunch of stomach flu is, gastinotis. 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:40.520 It's not that. 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:44.160 It's when you know, the diff's in a cold, irregular 1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:45.320 sickness and the flu is what. 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.720 So mainly it's how you present. It's the severity. So 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:51.280 you're going to have higher fevers with the flu. Typically 1:01:51.280 --> 1:01:53.240 you're going to have body aches, You're going to feel 1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:56.840 like a truck hit you. Yeah, this whole quote stomach 1:01:56.840 --> 1:01:59.720 flu thing is usually a different virus that just affects 1:01:59.720 --> 1:02:02.440 your your GI tract. But it's going to be the aches, 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:04.480 it's going to be the high fevers. You're going to 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:07.720 have a headache usually and just overall feel like not 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:11.160 doing anything. Yeah, kids, especially vomiting Diarrhye are right, they 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:12.320 can have everything. 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:15.080 Yeah. Kids, kids will present however they want. 1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:18.000 Done, and four and forty eight hours are good exactly. 1:02:18.080 --> 1:02:20.080 They bounce back and they're like mom, Dad, play with me, 1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:21.920 and they're like not for another two weeks, thank you 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:22.360 very much. 1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:24.480 Yeah, why does it seem like that lingers when you're 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:27.040 sick And I don't know if it's the effects of 1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:29.160 that last for it feels like a month where you're 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:32.520 still dichnically breathing your hacking stuff up. What in the 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:33.439 older we get it's worse. 1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:36.439 Yeah, So the it's the post residual kind of cough. 1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:39.080 So after you get sick, the virus that's wreaking its 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:41.800 havoc for like a week or so. Then it goes away, 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:43.760 but you've got all this crud left in your air 1:02:43.760 --> 1:02:46.080 wings and your you know, in your windpipe, in your 1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:48.880 in your lungs, and that stuff still has to come up. 1:02:48.920 --> 1:02:51.840 So actually it's like three to eight weeks after a cold, 1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:54.360 you can still expect to have some sort of cough. 1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:55.960 And yes, it gets a little bit worse when we 1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:59.040 get older because we're not as good as coughing when 1:02:59.040 --> 1:03:01.440 we get older, can't clear that stuff, so aile that 1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:04.440 inflammation is left. We keep coughing, and you know it 1:03:04.480 --> 1:03:07.040 bothers everyone around you because it's three to eight weeks later, 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:08.360 but you're no longer. 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.120 Contagious, it's just you're you're hacking up along still. 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:14.360 Fine, is there anything you can do to speed the 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:15.040 process up? 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:19.800 So yes, early on there's a lot of stuff sold 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:21.840 out there right, like, right, do you take anything song. 1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:24.760 I'm a big believer in vitamin supplements, that kind of 1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:28.040 thing ahead of time. I tried the zinc before when 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:29.680 I feel it coming on and I want to find 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:31.640 notice this place ebo or not, but it feels like 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:32.240 that might help. 1:03:32.360 --> 1:03:33.640 Yeah, so you nailed it. 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:36.480 So zinc is literally the only thing that's even shown 1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:40.400 to have maybe some effects. Zinc seventy five milligrams to 1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:43.920 one hundred milligrams a day, you know, broken up is 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:46.440 the only thing that's shown to decrease the risk of 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:50.840 getting a bad virus or at least decreasing the symptoms 1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:51.160 you have. 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:53.880 That has to be in lozenge form. 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:54.120 Though. 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:57.520 That nasal spray is actually no good, so avoid that 1:03:57.560 --> 1:03:59.920 because actually you can cause harm. It can you know, 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:03.840 affect the way you smell permanently. Oh yeah, so the 1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:06.040 zinc lozenges is what you're looking for. 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:06.240 Now. 1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:08.040 Those can be pretty rough on the stomach though, because 1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:10.520 it's a heavy metal. You're literally eating a metal it's 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:14.640 gutters exactly. Yeah, what we do every week, gun a gun. 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:17.640 But the zinc can be tough on the stomach, but 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:20.240 it is has been shown to have some effects. The 1:04:20.240 --> 1:04:21.640 rest of the supplements not so much. 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:23.520 Why does the zinc work? What's it do? Uh? 1:04:23.920 --> 1:04:26.480 You know, that's a great question. So I think they're 1:04:26.520 --> 1:04:27.720 still trying to figure it out. 1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:30.680 But you know, so what I heard, by the way, 1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:33.600 it's son Jay Shiva Cramani. He's an emergency room physician. 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:35.760 Balls are a health guy in Scotsland show seven hundred double, 1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:37.320 always going to pop it on Thursdays. 1:04:37.840 --> 1:04:39.360 And it could be you know, working out. 1:04:39.360 --> 1:04:40.760 We'll get to that a little bit, and you know, 1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:44.120 neutrons and dieting and GLP injections and stuff like that. 1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:46.440 But today we're talking about well, Halloween crazy stuff. You've 1:04:46.440 --> 1:04:50.800 seen in the hour Halloween carving pumpkins number one and 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:52.760 number two is kids running with their mask on and 1:04:52.800 --> 1:04:55.200 tripping and falling and break in and are Number three 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:59.120 is people emulating themselves because they decided they were going to, 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:01.160 I don't know, go as human torch. 1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:04.080 But that's that's kind of Darwin there. That's a different thing. 1:05:04.320 --> 1:05:07.840 I'm talking about the flu vaccine and so the zinc 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:11.000 ase I understood it, there's something that it coats the 1:05:11.040 --> 1:05:13.880 throat and so typically if you ingest if I don't 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:15.760 know why it's being swallowing because I think your stomach 1:05:15.760 --> 1:05:19.560 acid would kill this. But when you ingest, the virus 1:05:19.560 --> 1:05:22.080 basically slops off down your throat and the zinc allows 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:25.040 that to occur, or maybe it kills that something like that. 1:05:25.040 --> 1:05:26.560 Right, it's something like that. 1:05:26.600 --> 1:05:29.640 It also boosts the immune system in general when our 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:31.120 immune systems are worse in the winter. 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:33.640 That's been shown too. So you know what help we 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:34.040 can get. 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:36.200 So those people that are like well, I say vitamin 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:37.760 C and it works for me. You know, if it 1:05:37.920 --> 1:05:40.000 if it helps, you go for it. As long as 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:42.640 you're not harming yourself. I'm cool with that too. But yeah, 1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:44.720 the zinc does seem to have some effect, a little 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:46.400 bit of an effect. Okay, good, that's good to know. 1:05:46.480 --> 1:05:48.680 But by and large, it's like you've got it. Hydrate, 1:05:48.800 --> 1:05:50.160 that's all in rest. That's all you can do. 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:50.800 Hydrate. 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:51.320 Rest. 1:05:51.920 --> 1:05:52.640 And yeah. 1:05:53.280 --> 1:05:55.640 The other thing is, you know, the annoying cough is 1:05:55.680 --> 1:05:58.040 another thing. There is no magic bullet for cough. People 1:05:58.080 --> 1:06:01.040 always come in like four weeks later. If actually this 1:06:01.120 --> 1:06:03.440 last week, I've seen a ton of patients with this 1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:05.600 lingering cough. So I don't know what's going on out there. 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:08.600 It's not flu it's not COVID right now, it's not RSV. 1:06:08.680 --> 1:06:11.320 But there's so many crud, Cincinnati crud's going around and 1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:14.480 it's leaving people with this like prolonged cough, and unfortunately 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:17.320 there's nothing I can prescribe that will make it go away. 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:19.920 Honey has been shown as long as you're older than 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:23.800 one year old, honey can help the cough. Hydration also 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:27.560 helps because it decreases that dryness which actually triggers a cough. 1:06:27.680 --> 1:06:29.720 Yeah, and especially this time you're a hydrate is very 1:06:29.760 --> 1:06:32.240 important because you're inside the dry air. It's gonna hasting 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:34.920 that that whole disease pass to whether it's that or 1:06:34.960 --> 1:06:39.080 something else. Yeah, that's interesting that there's nothing really can do. 1:06:39.120 --> 1:06:41.600 I mean the cough lingers. There's some over the counters. 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:43.840 Sometimes you get a script for it, but it's basically 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:45.640 over the counter stuff. We all want to get that done. 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:47.600 It's like, I think, so after four weeks you're like 1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:49.840 my guy, three weeks you're thinking, Okay, there's something bad 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:51.680 going on here, right, that's when you should. 1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:52.960 Well for four weeks. 1:06:53.040 --> 1:06:56.120 Yes, though, if it's not getting worse, you know it's 1:06:56.200 --> 1:06:58.080 not to worry about. Or if you're not having trouble 1:06:58.080 --> 1:07:00.080 breathing or chest pains or anything like that. If you 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:02.480 are having something like that, worry if it's more than 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:04.680 like eight weeks, which I know sounds like forever. And 1:07:04.720 --> 1:07:06.880 it is forever to have a cough right because your 1:07:06.920 --> 1:07:09.680 sleep is bad, everything's bad. Everyone's annoyed at you because 1:07:09.680 --> 1:07:12.120 all you're doing is coughing. You want to get it 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:14.760 taken care of, but usually it's like eight weeks later. 1:07:14.800 --> 1:07:16.959 But you know, there are medicines that might be able 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:20.240 to help at that point, but there's no magic bullet of. 1:07:20.360 --> 1:07:22.800 Yeah, like some of the dm as stand, it's gonna 1:07:22.800 --> 1:07:23.360 take care of it. 1:07:24.400 --> 1:07:27.080 It's interesting because like my mom, for example, growing up, 1:07:27.080 --> 1:07:29.479 it was like, wow, he's got to this fluke taking 1:07:29.520 --> 1:07:31.360 the doctor and heahim, get himself, get him on something, get 1:07:31.400 --> 1:07:33.600 him on the head. Anti viral, you don't want to. 1:07:33.720 --> 1:07:36.160 There's there's really now there's a virus. There's a virus 1:07:36.160 --> 1:07:37.000 in bacteria. 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:39.880 Exactly, so you know pneumonia, that's gonna be a bacteria 1:07:39.920 --> 1:07:42.720 that causes it. Stuff like the flu flu is a virus, 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:45.960 but almost every single Cincinnati crud thing out there is 1:07:46.000 --> 1:07:49.760 a virus. Unfortunately, antibiotics don't do anything. And some people say, well, 1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:52.240 this zpac works for me every time. This antiotic works 1:07:52.280 --> 1:07:54.439 for me every time, and it's you know, there may 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:56.240 be a little something to it as far as anti 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:59.880 and inflammation, but it's not treating the infection. And you know, 1:08:00.040 --> 1:08:02.240 it's usually a fact that people have just been sick 1:08:02.280 --> 1:08:04.360 long enough that they're getting better and it just happens 1:08:04.400 --> 1:08:06.880 to coincide with the time that they start on an antibiotic. 1:08:06.960 --> 1:08:08.960 Right, I gotcha, Sonja on that. 1:08:09.200 --> 1:08:11.480 You know, you demand your doctor right that that led 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:14.480 us to this whole superbug thing. Right, It's like, we 1:08:14.520 --> 1:08:17.880 wrote me two scripts for a bacteria Killobacter whensa virus 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:19.080 and we knew that, but we did it to shut 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:22.240 the patient up. Yeah, And then that dividend with that was, well, 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:25.320 we've not got these superbugs out there that are immune 1:08:25.320 --> 1:08:28.160 to the overwriting of those prescriptions exactly. 1:08:28.760 --> 1:08:28.960 You know. 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:31.120 The best story I have of that, or the most 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:35.280 unfortunate story is my uncle in India would be like, oh, yeah, 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:38.800 I take this this medicine for diarrhea every time. And 1:08:38.880 --> 1:08:41.840 I'm like, yeah, we're having talks about diarrhea for unclear reasons, 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:43.800 and so you know, I'm like what is it? 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:44.560 Is it emodium? 1:08:44.600 --> 1:08:46.760 And he breaks out this pill and it is leave 1:08:46.760 --> 1:08:50.280 a phloxysm, which is a super powerful, you know, antibiotic 1:08:50.320 --> 1:08:52.200 that we really hold back for a lot of things. 1:08:52.240 --> 1:08:54.679 But in India that stuff's flowing over the counter really 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:57.679 and so we see all these nasty superbugs coming from 1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:00.839 other countries where there is no you know, no barrier 1:09:00.880 --> 1:09:02.519 where you don't have to see a doctor for this. 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:05.480 So yes, we do want to be stewards of antibiotics 1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:06.200 as physicians. 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:06.920 We do. 1:09:07.120 --> 1:09:10.080 You know this all came out of Yeah, placate the patient, 1:09:10.560 --> 1:09:13.160 but it's done more harm than good with causing you know, 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:14.639 these these resistant infections. 1:09:14.720 --> 1:09:17.160 Yeah, and that's that's going to rip evidends for a 1:09:17.200 --> 1:09:20.000 long time, and not in a good way. He is 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:23.800 a Sonjay schevrok ARMANI. He's an emergency room physician here 1:09:23.800 --> 1:09:27.080 in Cincinnati and he's coming on the show like every 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:29.719 Thursday morning, pop in and talk about health and food 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:32.400 and in this case the flu. So get the vaccine. 1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:35.439 I know that we've politicized vaccines now and you know, 1:09:35.920 --> 1:09:37.400 believe what you want about the COVID vacs. 1:09:37.400 --> 1:09:38.720 I mean, I don't get it. Every year. 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:40.640 I'm like every couple of years. My doctor says, you know, 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:42.639 you're you're pretty healthy, you don't need it. But I'm 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:45.479 pretty religious about that flu vax and I think, you know, 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:48.400 you got to look at measles and all those series 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:51.160 and okay, there's the politics of it, but don't let 1:09:51.160 --> 1:09:53.439 that pollute the stuff that's kept well, really kept us 1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:54.320 alive all these years. 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:54.519 Too. 1:09:54.520 --> 1:09:56.000 The same people, a lot of the people who are 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:58.360 against the vaccines are the same ones who benefited from 1:09:58.400 --> 1:09:59.960 for the last X number of years. 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:02.880 Absolutely, so you know, everyone has to make their own 1:10:02.920 --> 1:10:06.080 individual decisions. We have to respect that too and really 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:08.920 understand the drivers of that. If you do have any 1:10:09.000 --> 1:10:11.200 questions though, you know, talk to your doctor about it, 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:14.400 and you know, we just want the best thing for 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:16.000 you and your family and loved ones. 1:10:16.040 --> 1:10:18.000 All right, sign jail the best. Thanks again. You can 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:18.760 get a reach in. 1:10:18.880 --> 1:10:21.760 His handle is at dine Well Dock at Dinewell Dock 1:10:21.800 --> 1:10:22.840 and we'll talk next Thursday. 1:10:22.880 --> 1:10:24.519 Appreciate you, good, see you. Thanks for Ben. 1:10:24.560 --> 1:10:28.679 It's a Scott Floan show. This is seven hundred clony, 1:10:28.720 --> 1:10:32.719 seven hundred WLW. More bad news for your pocketbook here. 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:35.800 If you're in Ohio, you and your family could be 1:10:35.800 --> 1:10:38.920 paying more for electricity. Why, Well, the federal government is 1:10:39.560 --> 1:10:41.880 trying to extend the life of aging coal plants that 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:44.080 were once slated for call closure. And those things are 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:47.160 notoriously expensive to keep going. And we're seeing this trend 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:50.280 across the country as well. And those expenses too would 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:53.439 then be passed on a consumer, So says the Citizen's 1:10:53.520 --> 1:10:55.680 Utility Board of Ohio. Tom Bullock is here is our 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:56.720 executive director, Tom. 1:10:56.760 --> 1:11:01.000 Welcome, How are you good morning? Good, good good. 1:11:01.120 --> 1:11:03.839 Why would keeping a coal plant open cost us more money? 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:06.240 Does it cost more money to open new plants? 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:11.240 Most of these plants in question are very old, seventy 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:13.680 years old, sixty years old. They were designed for a 1:11:13.720 --> 1:11:18.559 different era. The parts don't exist, The facilities aren't designed 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:22.000 to power up or power down swiftly or respond to 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:25.280 economic conditions. So it's a little bit like if your 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:28.800 uncle gave you a nineteen seventy two Chevy and it 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:31.200 still runs a leaded gasoline and you're supposed to drive 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:35.479 that around. In theory, it's cheaper, but really to operate it, 1:11:35.560 --> 1:11:37.680 how do you get the parts to repair it? When 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:41.040 nobody makes them? It's difficult. 1:11:41.360 --> 1:11:43.479 Okay, So the question be why why are we forcing 1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:44.400 to keep these plants open? 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:49.600 Then, well, you'd have to ask the White House. The 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:54.639 White House believes that it wants to support one fuel source. Now, 1:11:54.760 --> 1:11:58.120 power is generated by a mix of sources. Coal, nuclear, 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:01.439 natural gas is a big, big player, and increasingly wind 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:06.839 and solar. Those are low costs. And then battery storage 1:12:06.880 --> 1:12:10.000 plays a role as well. Those are essentially large versions 1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:13.439 of the lithium ion batteries you carry around in your 1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:16.960 smartphone in your pocket all day long. Those play a 1:12:17.040 --> 1:12:21.960 role because it evens out the grid and you can 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:26.559 use cheap solar or wind when there's extra power and 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:28.840 you don't need it, stoor it in the battery, and 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:30.439 then release it when you do need it. 1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:31.559 Gotcha. 1:12:32.000 --> 1:12:34.400 But what's driving this though, is demand. Right as I 1:12:34.479 --> 1:12:37.519 understand it, we're putting all these AI facilities online. Ohio, 1:12:37.560 --> 1:12:40.599 for example, Columbus Butler County is getting like a million 1:12:40.960 --> 1:12:44.920 square foot facility as well, and so they're extending the 1:12:44.960 --> 1:12:47.280 life of coal plants because we need to meet demand. 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:49.559 The problem is the forecast, and I'm sure you know 1:12:49.640 --> 1:12:53.240 by what twenty thirty nine is allegedly going to go 1:12:53.320 --> 1:12:54.280 up some forty percent. 1:12:54.320 --> 1:12:55.120 That's just demand. 1:12:55.280 --> 1:12:58.040 We don't have the infrastructure and the transmission to be 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:02.200 able to get that power to households and businesses and residents. 1:13:02.200 --> 1:13:05.639 Obviously in addition to all of the technology's going online. 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:07.479 So it feels to me like an all hands on 1:13:07.560 --> 1:13:08.080 deck approach. 1:13:08.160 --> 1:13:11.639 Is that wrong? Half right, half wrong? 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:15.920 There for sure is data centers that are driving load growth. 1:13:16.000 --> 1:13:18.240 Part of that is artificial intelligence, part of it's not. 1:13:18.680 --> 1:13:21.599 There's also new factories coming to Ohio, like we hope 1:13:21.640 --> 1:13:25.240 the Intel plants. As people also electrify their homes with 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:28.679 electric cars or switch their furnest to a heat pump, 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:32.519 there's going to be more growth overall. But we do 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:36.040 have power today. What's causing the price bike is the speculation, 1:13:36.200 --> 1:13:39.439 as you said, about the next five years or so 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:41.840 for data center growth, and there's a bit of an 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:46.400 arms race by those companies to build out. And if 1:13:46.439 --> 1:13:49.120 you don't have power, of data center is a warehouse 1:13:49.160 --> 1:13:52.880 full of expensive junk. So it's a real issue. But 1:13:52.960 --> 1:13:57.120 it's not coal that is needed. It's power that the 1:13:57.240 --> 1:14:01.360 market decides is the best, and that gets to the 1:14:01.360 --> 1:14:05.000 heart of it. Government isn't supposed to be picking winners 1:14:05.000 --> 1:14:09.560 and losers. And if the White House picks losing facilities 1:14:09.640 --> 1:14:13.200 that are closed because they're the most expensive and forces 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:18.120 people to use those market losers to drive power, it's 1:14:18.200 --> 1:14:20.920 going to make losers out of all how consumers, because 1:14:20.960 --> 1:14:24.240 what you're doing is you're spiking the market. The market 1:14:24.360 --> 1:14:28.519 is designed to have an auction and the lowest cost 1:14:29.080 --> 1:14:33.160 the plier wins. But if somebody comes in and says, hey, market, 1:14:33.280 --> 1:14:36.160 I'm going to force you to not just take expensive power, 1:14:36.200 --> 1:14:39.400 but the most expensive power from the oldest and least 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:45.200 nimble and least adaptive facilities, it'shews everything. So the issue 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:49.560 isn't the fuel source. The issue is let the market 1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:52.680 function like it's supposed to without tampering. 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:54.639 What does the market want. 1:14:56.760 --> 1:15:02.200 When the market wants more power and affordable power, which 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:04.559 is there is going to be a little bit of 1:15:04.560 --> 1:15:07.080 an up and down as you bring new resources on. 1:15:07.600 --> 1:15:12.080 But if you let the market function, a temporary high 1:15:12.080 --> 1:15:15.520 price in the short term will level out and decrease 1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:19.559 over time. The challenge, though, is that our regional grid, 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:24.600 it's called pjm Ohio's part of thirteen states in a 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:29.719 grid that includes the mid Atlantic, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, et cetera. 1:15:30.920 --> 1:15:35.400 It's not easy to get new power added to the grid, 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:40.800 and that is worsening prices in their term. So PJM, 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:44.760 not the federal government, also has work to do to 1:15:44.960 --> 1:15:49.559 make the hot prices, which are setting the signal to suppliers. Hey, 1:15:50.360 --> 1:15:54.920 power producers, come online, we need you. The market's sending 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:59.080 that signal. But the problem is PGM has restrictions about 1:15:59.479 --> 1:16:02.400 adding power and interconnecting with the grid that are too 1:16:02.439 --> 1:16:04.320 slow and difficult. So the prices are going to be 1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:07.600 high for a while with no market solutions. So PJM 1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:10.360 has work to do to lower our prices. 1:16:10.520 --> 1:16:12.280 Is this just a case of bureaucracy? 1:16:12.360 --> 1:16:14.439 And this is what is It's a choke point in 1:16:14.479 --> 1:16:18.200 that we have an increasing demand for power, and so 1:16:18.800 --> 1:16:21.439 you address that by keeping the old technology online, when 1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:24.040 of course keeping old stuff going, as you pointed out, 1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:27.639 as always more expensive the future. To me, you should 1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:30.040 be everything should be on the table. We if wind 1:16:30.240 --> 1:16:35.120 or solar or whatever works, hydrogen, nuclear, whatever it is, 1:16:35.160 --> 1:16:37.600 whatever we can get to market more quickly, that's what 1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:40.519 we should be favoring at this point. Why isn't that happening, 1:16:40.600 --> 1:16:43.880 especially with an administration it seems so friendly about getting 1:16:43.960 --> 1:16:46.200 rid of all the gridlock and bureaucracy and doge and 1:16:46.200 --> 1:16:47.320 all that stuff that fits right in. 1:16:47.360 --> 1:16:48.240 Why isn't that happening? 1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:52.120 Well, because I think what's happening is a lobbyist and 1:16:52.120 --> 1:16:56.880 the political favors are getting involved instead of instead of 1:16:57.000 --> 1:17:00.000 letting the market, so capitalism as a creative destructive side. 1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:03.639 What happens is the least expensive old technology goes away 1:17:03.720 --> 1:17:06.479 and is replaced by a new, better mouse trapper, in 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:10.439 this case, a new, cheaper generation facility. But if the 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:13.720 people who are friends with the old facilities say, hey, 1:17:13.720 --> 1:17:16.200 wait a minute, we don't like the market. If you 1:17:16.280 --> 1:17:20.240 do me a political favor, well, then it makes everything 1:17:20.280 --> 1:17:23.479 more expensive for everybody else. There are more than one 1:17:23.520 --> 1:17:29.400 thousand powered production generation facilities in our regional thirteen state grid. 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:34.479 If you say the top fifty or one hundred most 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:39.040 expensive power plants are forced to be kept open and 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:41.920 sold even when the companies that own them want to 1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:45.639 close them, you're going to skew that market. So there's 1:17:45.800 --> 1:17:51.320 enough out pardon me, there's enough out there that we 1:17:51.360 --> 1:17:53.840 don't need to tamper with if we need to do 1:17:53.960 --> 1:17:56.280 what the state of Ohio did earlier. This year sit 1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:59.960 of Ohio deserves some credit, is leaned into market company 1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:04.040 technology neutral. It doesn't try to pick winners and losers 1:18:04.080 --> 1:18:06.680 about which fuel source. It says, we're not going to 1:18:06.720 --> 1:18:10.160 have regulated generation. We do want to expand power production 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:14.400 so that we have affordable the keyword of suffordable energy 1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:18.040 to power our economy. And we're going to let the 1:18:18.080 --> 1:18:22.360 investors in the free market competition do its job, which 1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:27.559 means when an investor takes a risk on a plant, 1:18:28.360 --> 1:18:30.759 if they mess up, the losses on them, the loss 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:34.120 doesn't get forced to be paid for by consumers, which 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:38.200 is what regulated monopolies do. So basically, the federal government 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:41.440 is trying to turn back the clock to a regulated 1:18:41.479 --> 1:18:45.880 monopoly style of power supply decision making. We don't need 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:50.320 that today. We've got all kinds of technology that can 1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:53.719 be a better solution. I like to say engineers are smart. 1:18:53.720 --> 1:18:56.639 People are smart. If you can just get the legal 1:18:56.680 --> 1:18:59.280 and the financial out of the way of the inventors 1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:01.799 and the engineers, we could do all kinds of cool 1:19:02.280 --> 1:19:05.040 new solutions. But it's hard to get past legal. 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:06.519 And there's a matter of factors. 1:19:06.520 --> 1:19:09.160 It's Tom Bullock, Executive director of Citizens Utility Board, of 1:19:09.160 --> 1:19:12.040 Ohio because of the high demand that we're facing when 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.320 it comes to our electrical grid and power and the 1:19:14.439 --> 1:19:17.439 choke point, which of course is demand and we don't 1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:21.519 have transmission and supply that's going to drive closs up in. 1:19:21.600 --> 1:19:23.880 We're adding more and more infrastructure in the forums, will 1:19:24.120 --> 1:19:26.280 you know, people buying electric cars plugging in. But the 1:19:26.280 --> 1:19:28.439 big one is data centers in AI and we're putting 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:31.200 plants all over, including Butler County, that just need a 1:19:31.240 --> 1:19:35.439 tremendous amount of energy and resources for that. Water is 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:37.559 another great example of that thing, dude. Now maybe not 1:19:37.560 --> 1:19:40.160 in our scope here, but some data centers consume up 1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:42.719 to five million gallons of water a day. That's about 1:19:42.840 --> 1:19:45.599 enough for a town of about fifty thousand people, which 1:19:45.640 --> 1:19:49.960 is an incredible amount of resources dedicated to keeping power 1:19:50.040 --> 1:19:51.920 that little thing in our hands. Right with AI and 1:19:51.960 --> 1:19:54.920 infrastrate and information the data center right a tremendous amount 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:55.439 of polages. 1:19:56.720 --> 1:19:58.760 We should also be careful. Some of this is data 1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:02.400 center speculations. A bubble that conversed and some of these 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.960 data center companies are planning to build one or two 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:10.960 data centers, but they're filing redundant applications in the Great 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:15.240 Plain States in our region, in the Northeast, in the southeast, 1:20:15.280 --> 1:20:18.080 and they're racing to figure out who gets gives them 1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:22.439 their permit first. So they're not building ten, they're only 1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:25.679 building two. And all of us are scrambling and saying, 1:20:25.680 --> 1:20:27.839 oh my gosh, we have to add all this power. 1:20:28.120 --> 1:20:32.680 So there's an important double checking process that we need 1:20:32.720 --> 1:20:35.320 to do to make sure we're not over building. But 1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:39.040 one consumer who is in Ohio and talked to the 1:20:39.080 --> 1:20:42.719 Cleveland plate dealers, let me get this straight. Data centers 1:20:42.920 --> 1:20:47.679 are increasing my bill today and I didn't do anything 1:20:48.000 --> 1:20:51.919 to invite them here, and yet their costs are already 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:54.679 affecting me. This is one more example of where business 1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:57.599 costs get dumped onto Bob and Betty Buckeye and they 1:20:57.640 --> 1:21:01.160 privatize the Game's real quick. 1:21:01.000 --> 1:21:03.280 To what's happening with for example, you mentioned you know 1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:05.679 they're getting pulling permits and getting ready to build what's 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:08.840 going on the Columbus Intel plant, because that's still not 1:21:09.000 --> 1:21:11.160 where they promised to be at this part. We're pushing 1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:13.160 operations back another five or six. 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:13.519 Years, are I? 1:21:15.400 --> 1:21:19.519 I think that's right. I know that the governor and 1:21:19.960 --> 1:21:24.759 even the White House has been working to continue getting 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:29.639 Intel to move forward on the project. There's such enormous 1:21:29.680 --> 1:21:34.880 amounts of money involved that you're going to have to 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:39.080 have some federal supports for what's called the Chips Act. 1:21:39.280 --> 1:21:43.200 But that was a change between the previous administration the 1:21:43.200 --> 1:21:48.559 current one. So I tend to think that it's important 1:21:48.600 --> 1:21:53.160 for Ohio to pursue and implement these kinds of facilities. 1:21:53.160 --> 1:21:57.080 But you also for you know, we speak for small 1:21:58.400 --> 1:22:01.679 residential consumers. So the you've been making in this conversation 1:22:01.720 --> 1:22:04.040 a longer than good ones, which is, as you build 1:22:04.040 --> 1:22:08.800 these very large factories for very large enter consumers, kind 1:22:08.800 --> 1:22:12.519 to make sure the way that the grid infrastructure is 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:16.280 paid for doesn't get dumped onto the daghbles. It's like 1:22:16.439 --> 1:22:19.640 you'll dump your leaves over your back fence into your 1:22:19.640 --> 1:22:23.960 neighbor's yard. But that financially happens all the time in 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:26.800 the world of utilities, and it shouldn't happen. That's why 1:22:26.880 --> 1:22:29.160 groups like ours try to speak up to the little guy. 1:22:29.400 --> 1:22:32.080 How hard is it too, Tom, Because it's always there 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:35.080 is the effort to get cleaner power, and we need 1:22:35.120 --> 1:22:37.960 more and more of it. Is it odds with infrastructure 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:41.040 building infrastructure because there's right of ways. I mean, look 1:22:41.080 --> 1:22:43.800 what happened with the Keystone XL pipeline getting shut down. 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:46.960 It's a lot more efficient, easier, and safer than taking 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:48.760 all of that fuel that we need and putting out 1:22:48.800 --> 1:22:50.720 on rail cars where they can You know, look what 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:53.320 happened in Ohio, not just a few handful of years ago, 1:22:54.120 --> 1:22:56.559 and that's transporting stuff over rail, which is a lot 1:22:56.600 --> 1:22:58.799 more dangerous in an efficient in the system. What about 1:22:58.840 --> 1:23:02.120 the environmental push back from all this? Is that slowing 1:23:02.160 --> 1:23:06.080 things up? At that thought those money. 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:09.639 I don't think so. I think there are land used 1:23:09.720 --> 1:23:14.840 questions any time into power infrastructure, and that's also true 1:23:14.880 --> 1:23:18.519 if you build a subdivision or a shopping wall. Government 1:23:18.640 --> 1:23:22.000 has to be thoughtful about how it balances the most 1:23:22.040 --> 1:23:26.960 competing interest between the new development and the neighbors. Clean 1:23:27.120 --> 1:23:30.559 energy like wind and solar is increasingly the cheapest on 1:23:30.640 --> 1:23:34.320 the market. If you marry it up with battery storage, 1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:37.360 then it can provide you more of around the clock 1:23:37.439 --> 1:23:41.200 twenty four to seven solution, especially if you think of 1:23:41.240 --> 1:23:45.439 it not at one store or one house, but on 1:23:45.520 --> 1:23:49.280 an average across a statewide region. So if you think 1:23:49.320 --> 1:23:54.799 of Ohio, Illinois, Indiana together the wind is always blowing somewhere, 1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:57.400 and the sun is always shining somewhere. So on the aggregate, 1:23:57.720 --> 1:24:01.760 you could add a lot of inexpensive power, or to 1:24:01.800 --> 1:24:05.400 add to the mix of more expensive power sources than 1:24:05.439 --> 1:24:10.400 are traditional baseload, like nuclear or natural gas. But what 1:24:10.479 --> 1:24:14.240 you have to do is let one hundred companies or 1:24:14.240 --> 1:24:19.440 a thousand companies make their everyday economic decisions and investment decisions, 1:24:19.720 --> 1:24:23.559 and collectively that market will be more intelligent and less 1:24:23.600 --> 1:24:27.599 expensive than a governor or a president trying to put 1:24:27.640 --> 1:24:31.200 his or her thumb on the scale. You know. I mean, 1:24:31.680 --> 1:24:33.639 it's amazing to me that we have to even explain 1:24:33.680 --> 1:24:35.559 this in a country that's supposed to be a free 1:24:35.560 --> 1:24:36.920 market capitalist. 1:24:36.680 --> 1:24:40.360 But the people who complain about socialism practice socialism themselves. 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:44.000 The people who like socialism want more socialism. 1:24:44.200 --> 1:24:46.759 Well, there's some truth to what you just said, and 1:24:46.800 --> 1:24:50.519 there's hypocrisy in all directions. And all of us live 1:24:50.560 --> 1:24:52.280 in glass houses, so I should be careful about the 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:55.920 stones I throw. But I guess because the prices are 1:24:56.000 --> 1:24:59.960 going up. There's a survey that said from the last 1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:03.320 week National Survey, thirty four percent of American's sake electricity 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.000 prices are a major concern. 1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:05.839 That's high. 1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:08.800 Forty percent think it's a minor concern. This is on 1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:12.320 our radar and it's not going to go away. And yes, 1:25:13.360 --> 1:25:17.839 data centers are kind of the first stage of forcing 1:25:18.760 --> 1:25:20.880 prices up, but there's all these other pressures. For the 1:25:20.880 --> 1:25:23.879 next twenty years, I think it's going to be increasingly concerned, 1:25:23.880 --> 1:25:26.639 So we're going to be spending more time thinking about it. 1:25:27.600 --> 1:25:30.240 You do have solutions on your end. You can insulate 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:33.439 your home air seal with a calking gun. That's nineteen 1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:36.600 forties technology that's not new, are expensive, just got to 1:25:36.640 --> 1:25:40.040 do it. But none of us do that perfectly. But 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:44.040 we can help ourselves. And then new technology is not 1:25:44.160 --> 1:25:47.200 everything has to be a giant megaplant. You could do 1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:51.920 something on your home or business. There's medium tier facilities 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:55.200 we're working on. So let's say it's on twenty acres 1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:58.320 forty acres or an industrial roof. You could put solar, 1:25:58.520 --> 1:26:01.840 or you could do part solar, part battery, part natural 1:26:01.920 --> 1:26:05.880 gas like a microgrid hybrid system. And then it can 1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:09.559 be back up emergency power for a facility or a 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:10.880 factory that has to run it all. 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:13.639 But Tom know a little bit about that business. That's 1:26:13.640 --> 1:26:17.040 an expensive outlay, and sometimes you know, you get an agreement. 1:26:16.680 --> 1:26:18.280 Where they put it on quote unquote for free. 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:20.360 But the veig on that what you're paying an interest 1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:23.600 basis of payback is pretty extreme. That that might be 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:26.320 good if you have that upfront cash or the math 1:26:26.360 --> 1:26:28.960 works for you, but right now for most people that doesn't. 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:33.639 Well, if you're talking about a business, it's probably easier 1:26:33.640 --> 1:26:36.479 to get there, true, and it depends if your business 1:26:36.560 --> 1:26:39.680 is energy intents of like many family owned businesses in 1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:43.679 Ohio or manufacturing businesses where energy is their second most 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:48.880 expensive category after labor, so they pay very careful attention 1:26:49.080 --> 1:26:53.599 already to that. So you're right, some businesses it will 1:26:53.640 --> 1:26:55.439 be easier to get there than the other's. Hospitals are 1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:58.320 a good use. Even school systems that have let's say 1:26:58.400 --> 1:27:01.360 five elementary schools, two middle schools to high school you 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:05.080 could aggregate all that power draw and then feed it 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:07.920 with a virtual net metering system that might be in 1:27:07.960 --> 1:27:11.800 the next county over. Yeah, so I think what you'll 1:27:11.840 --> 1:27:15.599 find is even if you don't power all of the needs, 1:27:15.760 --> 1:27:18.679 you could do a portion of it, and then that 1:27:18.800 --> 1:27:22.320 gives you a long term, low price, stable contract, and 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:25.759 so your financial people can say we're in a better 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:28.599 position to have control over our bills and our risks, 1:27:29.120 --> 1:27:31.920 and we can plan for the future better. Some of 1:27:31.960 --> 1:27:34.240 the power will buy from the traditional grid, but some 1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:37.440 will get from these other systems, so you have options 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:40.280 and nobody should be forced to do this. But I 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:42.760 kind of do think we're going to enter a new 1:27:42.920 --> 1:27:46.200 era where we're thinking more about electricity than. 1:27:46.080 --> 1:27:50.080 We fear is my favor I amount of time, but 1:27:50.360 --> 1:27:52.160 my fear is there's going to be, like anything we 1:27:52.200 --> 1:27:55.160 don't do anything proactively, do it reactively, there's going to 1:27:55.200 --> 1:27:57.439 be some sort of energy nine to eleven where our 1:27:57.479 --> 1:28:00.240 grid shutdown will be a crisis before anyone goes man, 1:28:00.240 --> 1:28:01.400 we got to do something about this. 1:28:01.439 --> 1:28:02.879 That's just what we do in America. 1:28:03.640 --> 1:28:06.760 I think we don't inspect a bridge until bridge. 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:07.839 Yeah, exactly. 1:28:07.880 --> 1:28:10.880 We need a light at this intersection because some kids 1:28:10.920 --> 1:28:12.360 are going to get hit on their bike. Don't worry 1:28:12.400 --> 1:28:14.599 about it. Kid gets on a bike. Politicians out there, 1:28:14.600 --> 1:28:19.120 why don't we have a stoplight. I think I'm a 1:28:19.160 --> 1:28:23.120 big proponent and fascinated by many nuclear reactors, small nuclear 1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:26.799 reactors to power those AI facilities. Just have it on board, 1:28:26.840 --> 1:28:29.439 and I the problem of course, I think House Bill 1:28:29.520 --> 1:28:32.439 six and the first energy scandal ruined nuclear in the 1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:33.120 state of Ohio. 1:28:35.840 --> 1:28:40.840 I would I would say there's still possibilities there. It's 1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:45.120 very expensive, but there could be some business use cases 1:28:45.200 --> 1:28:49.400 for it, including your data centers. Uh yeah, it's kind 1:28:49.400 --> 1:28:51.639 of always like, well, twenty years in the future, it'll 1:28:51.640 --> 1:28:53.639 be it'll be ready. Maybe it's ten years in the future, 1:28:53.720 --> 1:28:56.360 we'll see, I mean all options of the table. But 1:28:56.479 --> 1:29:00.120 some of these data centers may indeed be uh a 1:29:00.160 --> 1:29:03.479 good category for using that. I'm hearing three Mile Island 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:05.080 in New York is going to be reopened by the 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:06.439 end of the data center or something. 1:29:06.280 --> 1:29:06.920 Like that in trouble. 1:29:08.160 --> 1:29:13.320 So so some of those super intensive, high price and 1:29:13.400 --> 1:29:15.479 they've got to have the power and they can't bu 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:19.200 risk their grip cutting out of them, they may do 1:29:19.360 --> 1:29:20.000 things like that. 1:29:20.400 --> 1:29:21.480 I think that's fascinating. 1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:23.200 I mean it's to set it in that direction that 1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:25.560 you could have a reactor the size of I don't know, 1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:28.479 a filing cabinet or a toaster, and that would power 1:29:28.520 --> 1:29:31.759 a subdivision or a fact or something along these lines, 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:34.120 and that's essentially send it back into the company that 1:29:34.160 --> 1:29:35.920 makes and get a new one kind of like a 1:29:35.920 --> 1:29:38.920 battery pack. But Tom Bullock, Executive Director of Citizens, you 1:29:39.000 --> 1:29:40.320 tell me Borta will have then and keep the call 1:29:40.360 --> 1:29:42.719 plants open because of the demand, and we don't have altered solutions. 1:29:42.720 --> 1:29:44.240 We got to wait for the sky to fall before 1:29:44.240 --> 1:29:46.320 we do anything. I think that is the too long, 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:50.000 didn't read versionless conversation. But I appreciate your time again 1:29:50.040 --> 1:29:51.240 this morning, Tom, Thanks again. 1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:53.599 Let's talk some more. Thank you. 1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:56.400 We'll get a news update in this rainy Thursday morning. 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:58.600 Good news is that's headed out and sunshine back in 1:29:58.680 --> 1:30:01.200 store for trick or treating to So full news update, 1:30:01.200 --> 1:30:02.960 A lot to catch up on. Wife jumps in the 1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:05.000 show next year. Seven hundred World. 1:30:06.400 --> 1:30:08.960 Jeez, the Princess of Property. 1:30:09.479 --> 1:30:15.120 The Queen of Closings, fuck touches out Deals. It's Realistic 1:30:15.240 --> 1:30:20.040 Time With's Michelle Sloan All hailed the bestest Remax time 1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:24.000 agent I've ever met on seven hundred wl W. 1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:25.400 Good morning, how are you? 1:30:26.680 --> 1:30:27.400 It's a morning? 1:30:27.960 --> 1:30:33.040 It really is something else. It's I'm physical this morning, 1:30:33.080 --> 1:30:35.479 so I left for physicals. I get a blood drop 1:30:35.479 --> 1:30:38.240 for my annual physical and got to the blood place 1:30:38.280 --> 1:30:40.800 at Montgomery Road christ Hospital, which normally does good work 1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:43.080 and seven o'clock and there's people behind me. I'm the 1:30:43.120 --> 1:30:44.840 first one there. I thought, Okay, good, I gotta get in. 1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:47.840 I got a bunch of stuff to do. Yeah, that person, 1:30:48.360 --> 1:30:50.920 we don't know where they are, so we'll probably never show. 1:30:51.080 --> 1:30:54.599 Never showed, so oh maybe we'll oping like seven thirty, 1:30:54.600 --> 1:30:56.479 well maybe like seven forty. And they had one person 1:30:56.520 --> 1:30:58.120 that was like three thousand people. 1:30:59.520 --> 1:31:00.960 Oh no, that's not good. 1:31:01.040 --> 1:31:05.479 Somebody's somebody's gonna get is already either chewed out, fired or. 1:31:05.960 --> 1:31:08.120 No, probably not. It's just the way the economy is. 1:31:08.160 --> 1:31:11.000 I guess I don't know. And then traffic, of course was. 1:31:11.320 --> 1:31:13.200 But I will say this. Can I goff on a 1:31:13.200 --> 1:31:15.439 little bit of a rant here for SI please? You 1:31:15.479 --> 1:31:18.360 know we're almost a because you're almost to that age. 1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:20.200 Okay, listen, this is like one of. 1:31:20.200 --> 1:31:23.519 Those progressive commercials, and those progressive commercials hit because it's 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:25.439 so true that don't become your parents. 1:31:25.360 --> 1:31:26.320 They'll become your parents. 1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:29.680 Absolutely, if you're a senior citizen, if you're retired, and 1:31:29.760 --> 1:31:31.639 your joy you've got, you know, you've worked your whole life, 1:31:31.680 --> 1:31:34.439 raised to family. Uh, did everything you're supposed to do. 1:31:34.479 --> 1:31:36.280 God bless you. I want to be there some day myself. 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:38.040 But could you please, to the love of God, you 1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:39.760 don't need to be the first person in line at 1:31:39.800 --> 1:31:41.160 seven o'clock and born in the place. And there are 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:43.200 people that work that got to get to work, So 1:31:43.280 --> 1:31:44.760 why don't you wait till later in the day to 1:31:44.800 --> 1:31:45.120 do that. 1:31:45.240 --> 1:31:48.120 Oh you're saying that people that aren't working. 1:31:48.439 --> 1:31:51.559 Correct, It should be people like, Okay, I got to 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:53.400 get to work by you know, some people at nine o'clock. 1:31:53.439 --> 1:31:56.760 I'm a little lower than that. Obviously, they're just saying, 1:31:56.800 --> 1:31:59.080 you know, and here's when I'm older. I'm not going 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:00.760 to be the first guy in line because my my 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:02.559 you know, my prostates kept me on. 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:03.599 I wake up at three am. 1:32:04.560 --> 1:32:04.960 Wet. 1:32:06.720 --> 1:32:10.559 If you're my dad and he's whatever, eighty years old, 1:32:11.000 --> 1:32:11.519 he's going. 1:32:11.479 --> 1:32:12.559 To be the first one in line. 1:32:13.400 --> 1:32:15.439 You have to do all in the. 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:18.360 First pew at church, he is in the first one 1:32:18.400 --> 1:32:20.519 in line because he's up at three am. 1:32:20.600 --> 1:32:22.240 He goes to bed at five pm. 1:32:23.920 --> 1:32:27.439 Man, man, just you don't need to be there that early. 1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:29.920 I got the I want to waste the whole day. 1:32:29.960 --> 1:32:32.080 What is it you have to do that's so damn important. 1:32:32.080 --> 1:32:34.280 You're retired, You could do it anything you want or nothing. 1:32:34.800 --> 1:32:37.680 If I start going to bed at five pm, seriously. 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:42.400 Just well, you're getting closer eight thirty. Last night, she's 1:32:42.400 --> 1:32:43.639 in bed. What are you doing? 1:32:43.920 --> 1:32:47.559 It was cold. I wanted to get under the covers 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:48.639 and snuggle. 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:50.400 And now by the time I came to bed, you 1:32:50.520 --> 1:32:52.639 got the blanket, all the blankets, and the dog gots 1:32:52.720 --> 1:32:53.680 up and try to pick him up. 1:32:53.680 --> 1:32:55.519 He's growling at you. He's like, I'm trying to get 1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:57.400 my bitch. I'm trying to sleep too. 1:32:59.280 --> 1:33:04.320 I stole your bank, all right, all right, Well so 1:33:04.360 --> 1:33:05.680 that was the day so far. 1:33:05.760 --> 1:33:07.559 So everyone's you know, if you're stuck on that traffic 1:33:07.760 --> 1:33:08.320 stuff to do. 1:33:08.439 --> 1:33:12.320 Right now, everything should be you know, rocket. 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:15.040 And roll should be calm, all right. So let's jump 1:33:15.040 --> 1:33:17.800 into this real quick. Here we have a FED rate cut. 1:33:17.800 --> 1:33:20.439 What does actually mean for people? I think are thinking like, wow, 1:33:20.479 --> 1:33:22.720 this is going to go back to three percent sometimes. 1:33:22.280 --> 1:33:26.120 Soon, right and there is people are posting on social 1:33:26.840 --> 1:33:27.679 My lender said. 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:29.120 It's going to be three percent by the end of 1:33:29.120 --> 1:33:31.760 the year. Don't do anything until then. Blah blah. That 1:33:32.040 --> 1:33:33.040 is a bunch of bees. 1:33:33.520 --> 1:33:35.479 I wonder tell you that they want to get their money. 1:33:35.560 --> 1:33:39.120 I don't know who's telling who what. But the Fed 1:33:39.160 --> 1:33:41.960 cut the fat cut it's benchmark federal funds rate by 1:33:41.960 --> 1:33:42.839 a quarter percent. 1:33:43.280 --> 1:33:44.440 This was expected. 1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:48.680 Okay, the markets have already expected this cut. They've already 1:33:48.840 --> 1:33:52.640 you know, we've already baked that into the cake. So 1:33:52.880 --> 1:33:57.400 mortgage rates are likely to you know, they've already come 1:33:57.439 --> 1:34:00.400 down a little bit. They're not too six percent yet, 1:34:00.439 --> 1:34:04.040 we're like six point one three, depending on your credit. 1:34:04.560 --> 1:34:07.160 It's still really good. It's better than it was. You know, 1:34:07.200 --> 1:34:08.960 we were at seven, we were at seven and a 1:34:09.000 --> 1:34:11.400 quarter an hour at six and a quarter, let's say. 1:34:12.000 --> 1:34:14.400 And so if that's for a thirty year fixed rate, 1:34:14.479 --> 1:34:17.320 you can get a lower rate if you buy down 1:34:17.360 --> 1:34:19.800 the rate. There are ways for you to get that 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:22.719 lower rate, but you have. 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:25.160 To pay for it. So that's just stuff to figure out. 1:34:25.560 --> 1:34:28.959 It doesn't automatically when the Fed cuts the rate, everybody 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:30.120 in their mind says. 1:34:29.880 --> 1:34:32.800 Oh, yay, mortgage rates are going to go down. No, 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:34.519 that's not the that's not the case. 1:34:35.000 --> 1:34:39.920 Doesn't automatically translate into a equal quarter point drop in 1:34:40.200 --> 1:34:44.400 mortgage rates. It's the short term policy rate. It affects 1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:47.479 all kinds of things. Ten year Treasury bonds things that 1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:52.080 I don't even know about. And so it's good news, 1:34:52.360 --> 1:34:56.480 that's for sure. But it doesn't do like equal parts 1:34:57.160 --> 1:35:00.240 lowering our mortgage rate. So that's what you just need 1:35:00.280 --> 1:35:04.519 to know. If you're buying or refinancing, there is going 1:35:04.600 --> 1:35:09.080 to be a benefit to that. And so if you 1:35:09.160 --> 1:35:11.479 have to refinance, if you are one of the people 1:35:11.520 --> 1:35:14.280 who a year ago we said, okay, if you find 1:35:14.320 --> 1:35:17.680 your perfect house and you have the high rate, guess what, 1:35:17.800 --> 1:35:20.960 when the rate goes down, you can refinance. That's what's 1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:23.760 happening right now, and we are seeing more and more 1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:28.200 of that. So that came true when when all the 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:30.880 real estate agents out there said, go ahead, you can 1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:33.120 buy a house as long as you can afford it, 1:35:33.240 --> 1:35:37.480 you can refinance. Okay, that's we're getting into that territory. 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:41.679 If you have a full point difference, you may want 1:35:41.720 --> 1:35:43.080 to look into refinancing. 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:46.160 So that's that's a good thing, got it all right? 1:35:46.520 --> 1:35:48.599 But somebody hear that and go, well, I keep hearing 1:35:48.640 --> 1:35:51.599 there's gonna be another quarter point cut, another code there is, 1:35:51.800 --> 1:35:53.240 and again I'll just sit and wait. 1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:56.679 You can wait, but we're at six point one point 1:35:56.720 --> 1:35:59.680 three right now. It might get to six. It may 1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:03.559 get to five point ninety nine. That's probably not going 1:36:03.640 --> 1:36:07.680 to make the biggest of difference in your monthly mortgage. 1:36:08.200 --> 1:36:11.920 It really isn't. Those teeny tiny little tenths of a 1:36:12.000 --> 1:36:14.559 point is not gonna make that. It's gonna be like 1:36:14.600 --> 1:36:19.479 twenty dollars or thirty dollars, maybe maybe fifty bucks. And again, 1:36:19.760 --> 1:36:22.120 if it ever goes to that, it's never gonna get time. 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:23.400 I'm on a fixed income. 1:36:23.439 --> 1:36:25.320 I got to get up early to go to the doctor, 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:28.479 and I'm fifty dollars, I'm on a fixed income. 1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:31.559 Well, I'm glad for you. 1:36:32.080 --> 1:36:33.639 Then you should you know what, this is a lot 1:36:33.680 --> 1:36:34.160 of money. 1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:36.840 Okay, But if you're in a fixed income and you've 1:36:36.840 --> 1:36:39.200 been in your home for twenty years, you shouldn't have 1:36:39.240 --> 1:36:41.920 a mortgage payment anyway. You should have had that thing 1:36:42.080 --> 1:36:46.040 paid off. You shouldn't have refinanced and borrowed the money 1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:48.080 against yourself a million times. 1:36:48.120 --> 1:36:49.719 Oh Jesus, sound like my mom. 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:54.559 No kidding to bed at eight thirty sounded like your mom? 1:36:54.600 --> 1:36:54.960 All right? 1:36:56.240 --> 1:36:56.679 Anyway? 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:59.360 My wife Michelle Sloan here, not my mother in law. 1:36:59.400 --> 1:37:02.240 My wife Michelle else long on the show wwill real 1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:02.800 Estate check up? 1:37:02.880 --> 1:37:03.000 Right? 1:37:03.000 --> 1:37:04.160 So we're getting rate cuts. 1:37:05.160 --> 1:37:06.920 But you know, here's the thing. You go, well, maybe 1:37:06.920 --> 1:37:08.240 I want to wait till little see if it gets 1:37:08.240 --> 1:37:10.000 down to five at some point. Now it could be 1:37:10.000 --> 1:37:11.679 another could be a year, could be longer. 1:37:12.520 --> 1:37:13.439 Yeah, now five. 1:37:14.160 --> 1:37:17.320 See again, I think you're pushing that territory that if 1:37:17.320 --> 1:37:19.439 you want to move, if you want to make a move, 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:21.280 make a freaking move. 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:24.960 Sorry. Yeah, you know, it's. 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:28.679 It's all about living your life in the present. 1:37:29.120 --> 1:37:31.200 So how many things do you have left? 1:37:31.520 --> 1:37:32.120 Exactly? 1:37:32.360 --> 1:37:34.479 That's why I yet at six o'clock in the morning 1:37:34.600 --> 1:37:37.599 to get my blood draw I don't know how many 1:37:37.640 --> 1:37:38.599 of these I have left. 1:37:40.640 --> 1:37:42.559 Yeah. So here's the thing. 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:44.920 If you find a house that works for you and 1:37:44.960 --> 1:37:48.320 you can afford it at the current rate, I'm always 1:37:48.400 --> 1:37:51.160 going to advise you to go ahead and buy that 1:37:51.280 --> 1:37:55.040 home because that home may not come around. That home, 1:37:55.640 --> 1:37:58.439 the particular home that fits your needs, may not come 1:37:58.479 --> 1:38:02.160 around again for a very long time. I've had some 1:38:02.200 --> 1:38:05.680 people that have been looking in certain school districts for 1:38:05.800 --> 1:38:09.960 two years or more because they're looking for the unicorn, 1:38:10.520 --> 1:38:13.800 the needle in the haystack that doesn't come along. It 1:38:13.840 --> 1:38:17.640 may come along, but when you find it, boy, you 1:38:17.720 --> 1:38:20.960 better jump on it because you may not find it ever. 1:38:21.000 --> 1:38:23.599 Again, also may have to compromise as well, and that's 1:38:23.600 --> 1:38:25.040 something well, that's. 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:28.519 The one thing, you know, you really people some people 1:38:28.600 --> 1:38:33.560 are just unwilling to compromise. And if you're unwilling to compromise, 1:38:34.080 --> 1:38:38.320 then you should build. And that's sort of where I 1:38:38.640 --> 1:38:42.240 will direct you. If I'm working with you and we 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:46.879 cannot find the right house for you in a certain area, 1:38:47.520 --> 1:38:51.519 a certain school district, and you're gonna nitpick every single 1:38:51.640 --> 1:38:54.840 little tiny thing, Oh my gosh, you know there's a 1:38:55.040 --> 1:38:58.559 there's a tiny hole in the wall, or the sink drips, 1:38:58.640 --> 1:39:00.960 or this is old or what ever. You know what 1:39:01.400 --> 1:39:05.000 if it's a used home, if it's a home, it's 1:39:05.040 --> 1:39:07.960 not brand new, it's not going to be brand new. 1:39:08.040 --> 1:39:09.719 You just have to accept that. 1:39:09.720 --> 1:39:13.880 That's one thing. So and then there then if I say, if. 1:39:13.800 --> 1:39:15.800 Here's one tonight. You know, we just talked about this before, 1:39:15.800 --> 1:39:18.439 because we sold our house over the summer and you 1:39:18.479 --> 1:39:21.479 did a great job. You're my favorite realtor and you 1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:24.000 got like, got thirteen showings in one day and a 1:39:24.000 --> 1:39:24.559 handful of. 1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:25.679 Offers, so that was good. 1:39:27.280 --> 1:39:29.320 But some people, again, you know, there's people and you 1:39:29.320 --> 1:39:31.760 have clients like this, and there's certain ethnicities that do 1:39:31.840 --> 1:39:33.559 this that the door has to be facing the right way. 1:39:33.600 --> 1:39:36.439 There's fing shwei, there's I don't know whether these super 1:39:36.479 --> 1:39:39.640 you know, rituals and all cultures have that. But you're like, 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:41.960 you know, you've been looking for a house for two years. 1:39:41.960 --> 1:39:44.280 This is perfectly except the doors facing the wrong way, 1:39:44.400 --> 1:39:46.720 like and you want to get in the mason where 1:39:46.720 --> 1:39:48.639 the schools are really good because you have young kids. 1:39:48.680 --> 1:39:50.479 I mean, by the time you get that and what 1:39:50.520 --> 1:39:52.360 you want, everyone's fighting for that where the door is 1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:53.200 facing the right way. 1:39:53.360 --> 1:39:56.400 Your kids are going to be thirty, so you know, 1:39:56.479 --> 1:39:57.840 are you you know what I mean? 1:39:57.840 --> 1:39:59.680 It's like you got to pull the trigger at some 1:39:59.680 --> 1:40:03.479 point or you just keep renting. You know, if you're renting, 1:40:03.960 --> 1:40:07.400 you keep renting. And you know, we have I've had 1:40:07.479 --> 1:40:11.040 situations certainly I'd like to buy a house, Okay, how 1:40:11.120 --> 1:40:11.920 much do you want to spend? 1:40:12.040 --> 1:40:13.439 How much are you able to spend? 1:40:13.600 --> 1:40:17.960 That kind of thing, and the numbers don't add up, 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:20.960 and so there's there's a combination of things. That's why 1:40:21.360 --> 1:40:23.960 when you hire a realtor, which is what you are doing, 1:40:24.040 --> 1:40:26.479 You are hiring a realtor to work with you. And 1:40:26.520 --> 1:40:30.760 the people that think they can just use realtors like 1:40:31.120 --> 1:40:35.040 I don't know, toilet paper, use them for a second 1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:39.960 and then throw them away. Not the best way, because 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:43.040 you want to have a realtor who's going to work 1:40:43.360 --> 1:40:47.200 for you, with you together to come up with the 1:40:47.240 --> 1:40:51.719 solution to what you're looking for, and having and hiring 1:40:51.760 --> 1:40:55.800 an agent is very important part of the process. There's 1:40:55.840 --> 1:40:59.720 a thousand there's actually thousands of us out there, and 1:40:59.840 --> 1:41:04.840 so choosing the one that fits your personality, who is 1:41:04.960 --> 1:41:08.599 available when you need them and is open and honest 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:11.920 and trustworthy. That's the kind of agent that you want 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:14.080 on your side every step of the way. 1:41:14.240 --> 1:41:18.559 Yeah, my wife, Michelle Sloan is that agent. All right. 1:41:18.560 --> 1:41:20.080 So we're getting to that time of year, the some 1:41:20.200 --> 1:41:22.280 pumps starting to check out. We've talked about this before. 1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:23.920 Make sure you check your some pump. That's something I 1:41:23.960 --> 1:41:26.599 want to stress is, you know, if that things, if 1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:28.200 you're getting all those rain it's not turning on, you 1:41:28.200 --> 1:41:29.760 got to go down there and check it maybe and 1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:31.400 hopefully you have you know, a battery backup if you 1:41:31.400 --> 1:41:33.280 need it. If you have a lot of that, because 1:41:33.560 --> 1:41:36.280 especially if you have a finished basement. If not, you 1:41:36.360 --> 1:41:38.760 got an indoor swimming pool. Don't worry about it. Make 1:41:38.760 --> 1:41:40.599 sure the sum pump's working. How you test that simply 1:41:40.680 --> 1:41:42.360 as get a bucket of water and keep dumping it 1:41:42.360 --> 1:41:44.519 in there until the float valve comes up and then 1:41:44.840 --> 1:41:46.360 or you can put a little bit of water in 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:48.560 there and lift the little ball up kind of like 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:51.720 a toilet, and it should engage and get all that water. 1:41:51.760 --> 1:41:53.240 If not, you got to get a plumber over there 1:41:53.280 --> 1:41:55.920 and take a look at that. Also, this is the 1:41:55.920 --> 1:41:59.120 weekend with the time change. Got to mention the smoke detectors. 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:01.479 And also I'll throw this in there too, because you 1:42:01.520 --> 1:42:03.680 can buy them with a combined thing. And you know, 1:42:03.760 --> 1:42:05.640 people have habits and while I don't need all that, 1:42:06.000 --> 1:42:08.400 get the carbon monoxide detector. So many people die from 1:42:08.439 --> 1:42:11.280 carbon monoxide poisoning, especially this time of year furnace kicks on. 1:42:11.360 --> 1:42:14.519 Maybe you know there's insects or a bird built a nest, 1:42:14.600 --> 1:42:17.040 or a bat diet or something, all sorts of stuff 1:42:17.160 --> 1:42:19.200 in that chimney or and that flu in the vent. 1:42:19.920 --> 1:42:21.880 If it's blocked, it's gonna you know, it could kill 1:42:21.920 --> 1:42:23.960 you and your family. So you can get a carbon 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:27.400 monoxide detector for like less than twenty bucks. You know, 1:42:27.479 --> 1:42:29.600 put put it in and where they recommend it in 1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:32.400 your house, depending on can't get the details exactly where, 1:42:32.520 --> 1:42:33.680 not knowing what your house looks like. 1:42:33.760 --> 1:42:37.240 But you know, I know that an inspector will be 1:42:37.280 --> 1:42:41.880 looking for that. You know, over the years, the it's 1:42:42.000 --> 1:42:45.560 changed and you only had to have one outside of 1:42:45.600 --> 1:42:48.439 the bedroom. Now you're you're looking at wanting to have 1:42:48.479 --> 1:42:52.720 a smoke detector in every single bedroom, right so you 1:42:52.720 --> 1:42:55.960 know while things change, yeah you don't. 1:42:56.400 --> 1:42:58.839 That's the thing. You have to just be aware because 1:42:59.080 --> 1:43:00.240 safety first, Yeah. 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:00.960 Safety first, hit that. 1:43:01.040 --> 1:43:02.639 Check your batteries if you still have the old fashioned 1:43:02.640 --> 1:43:04.640 smoke if those detectors still have the batteries, because now 1:43:04.680 --> 1:43:06.400 they sell one in the battery lasts like ten years. 1:43:06.880 --> 1:43:11.240 But even the higher the wired ones that are daisy chained, 1:43:11.520 --> 1:43:14.559 you know, if you can't tell when that smoke detector 1:43:14.680 --> 1:43:15.759 is that they won't last forever. 1:43:15.840 --> 1:43:16.760 So you got about ten years. 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:19.400 You should really consider replacing them because you'll get some 1:43:19.439 --> 1:43:21.599 false positives like we have something that are older and 1:43:21.840 --> 1:43:23.120 you know when you cook they go off, So I 1:43:23.120 --> 1:43:24.840 got to change os and I'll put some newer carbon 1:43:24.880 --> 1:43:26.360 monoxide ones And how do. 1:43:26.360 --> 1:43:28.080 You adjest that? Do I like put a lighter up 1:43:28.120 --> 1:43:28.360 to it? 1:43:28.520 --> 1:43:28.680 Oh? 1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:31.120 You simply well, no, you need just a little smoke 1:43:31.160 --> 1:43:32.080 from a candle to do it. 1:43:32.160 --> 1:43:35.880 But you know, typically ten years because dust collects on 1:43:35.960 --> 1:43:38.320 the sensors and that, and you know you just want 1:43:38.360 --> 1:43:40.479 to make sure God forbid you need it at work. 1:43:40.600 --> 1:43:43.080 So they're really you think about it, well, all the 1:43:43.080 --> 1:43:44.679 stuff he spend in our hou it's not that expensive. 1:43:45.040 --> 1:43:46.639 If they're more than ten years old, you should consider 1:43:46.680 --> 1:43:49.880 getting some new ones anyway, just the PSA there for 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:54.040 some safety, for some remodeling safety from me. 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