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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello and welcome in Cincy three sixty right here

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Speaker 2: on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty. My

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Speaker 2: name is Austin Elmore, with you today twelve to three.

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Speaker 2: We'll turn things over to Moe Egger after that.

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Speaker 3: Mo.

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Speaker 2: We'll be live at Oakley Greens this afternoon for his show,

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Speaker 2: as he normally is on Tuesdays. Looking forward to talking

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Speaker 2: to Mo. Phone lines are open five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. That's the phone number to talk

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Speaker 2: about anything you want to talk about. There are two

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Speaker 2: big stories right now. Number one it is what Nick

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Speaker 2: Crawl had to say to the media yesterday. We touched

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Speaker 2: Kral had to say yesterday and how that might shape

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Speaker 2: the future of the Reds and most importantly this off

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Speaker 2: season for the Reds. This is a big off season

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Speaker 2: for the baseball club now, because the question I've asked

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Speaker 2: problem with that. Altogether. They did something, they made progress,

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Speaker 2: And Zach Taylor yesterday hinted at the idea that there

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Speaker 2: because this is where the season is officially teetering. And

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Speaker 2: you know, addition, like on a normal day, a normal week,

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Speaker 2: they're two and three. They're the first team out of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs in the AFC right now. The opponents that

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Speaker 2: This season is not over, It's very much alive. But

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Speaker 2: you can't help but remember the quarterback play over the

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Speaker 2: last three weeks and just how bad Jake Browning has been.

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Speaker 2: It is hard for me to fathom somebody else playing

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Speaker 2: the last three weeks, whether that person is Brett Rippen

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be Mike White. Bengals announced earlier

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Speaker 2: today they made a roster move. They released quarterback Mike

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Speaker 2: the defensive lineman that was with them all throughout training camp.

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Speaker 2: He's the undrafted free agent out of the University of

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Speaker 2: If you're wondering about Mike White in his career, okay,

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Speaker 2: And so how do you build up that confidence? How

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Speaker 2: Was announced the other day Bearcat's gonna be playing a

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Speaker 2: Andrew Whitworth was on the Pat McAfee show yesterday alongside

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Speaker 2: teams don't have to respect it, which means they can

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Speaker 2: just clamp down on what you do best and the

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Speaker 2: rhythm that you want to get your quarterback into early

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Speaker 2: and you never let them establish it. And so he

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Speaker 2: sits back there and he holds onto it, and he

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Speaker 2: holds onto it and he holds onto it. If the

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Speaker 2: Bengals went any semblance of success this week against Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: not only do they have to run the football and

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Speaker 2: run it effectively. Jake Browning cannot be afraid to check

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Speaker 2: the ball down and keep the drive moving. He's got

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Speaker 2: to be able to do that quickly. Snap, where's the defense,

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Speaker 2: where's my checkdown, Let's take that, keep it moving Eventually,

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Speaker 2: that should open some things up. But Jake a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago, turns the ball over way too much

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Speaker 2: and over corrects against Denver, then checks it down too

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Speaker 2: much and is not taking any aggressive shots down the field,

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Speaker 2: and when he does, they're inaccurate, and then overcorrects this

446
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Speaker 2: week against the Detroit Lions and is just reckless with

447
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Speaker 2: the ball, completely inaccurate with the ball and can't make

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Speaker 2: the right decisions and is too late on his checkdowns.

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Speaker 2: There has to be a happy medium somewhere with Jake

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Speaker 2: Browning to where the offense can at least sustain a

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Speaker 2: driver or to and give their defense a chance. But

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Speaker 2: that's how Green Bay is going to defend them, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you that right now. And they're gonna be not

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Speaker 2: worried at all about blitzing or getting pressure or defending

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Speaker 2: the run because the Bengals offensive line is such an

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Speaker 2: I sore and so soft and not physical by any

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Speaker 2: stretch that teams feel like they can own the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage and therefore own the game based on how

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Speaker 2: they defend the Bengals offense. That's football, and the Natty

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Speaker 2: will take a break, We'll come back. Your phone call

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Speaker 2: The thirty ESPN fifteen thirty. This is since he three

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Speaker 2: to sixty. I'm Austin. No more phone lines open. Five

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Speaker 2: one three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. Talking Bengals. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into the Reds a little bit later on as well.

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Speaker 2: Joe Daniman will join us from Fox nineteen. That's in

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Speaker 2: about twenty minutes from right now. But right now, we

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Speaker 2: go to the Vones. We go to our friend John

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Speaker 2: in Boston.

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Speaker 7: John, what's up, good Afternoon, Austin, you're doing a great job.

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Speaker 7: I admire the fact when you host the show long

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Speaker 7: fantastic job. That's the toughest thing to do in radio

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Speaker 7: and TVA plus.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, man.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely well deserved.

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Speaker 7: I wish I could give the Cincinnati Bengals offensive line

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Speaker 7: an A plus right now.

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Speaker 8: They are at about an half, not an incomplete than

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Speaker 8: a a F.

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Speaker 7: And I still think that's the source of all the problems,

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Speaker 7: the lack of creativity on offense. You know, if the

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks are sitting duck, he's going to get hit. Maybe

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Speaker 7: move them around a little bit in the pocket. On

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Speaker 7: some boots, it's tougher to hit a moving target than

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Speaker 7: sitting target. And that hasn't seemed to cross the coaching

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Speaker 7: staff's mind.

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Speaker 2: I will say we saw that a little bit more

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Speaker 2: against Detroit, and I made a mental note of that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, Jake Browning is at least getting

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Speaker 2: out of the pocket a little bit. That happened more

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Speaker 2: than once. It probably needs to happen more than what

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Speaker 2: it did against Detroit.

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Speaker 7: But you're right, oh, without questioning, when nine comes back,

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Speaker 7: you've got to do that more with him.

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Speaker 8: You know let him.

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Speaker 7: I don't know where the narrative is that he can't. Oh,

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Speaker 7: he's a sensational athlete and can move on the ground

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Speaker 7: and he throws better than anyone on the run. So

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Speaker 7: it's like, what have they been watching? Maybe something differently

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Speaker 7: than we've been watching. But again, the offensive lines on

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Speaker 7: the play that he got hurt, you had four defensive

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Speaker 7: linemen at his legs, at his lower extremities within one

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Speaker 7: point three seconds of a snap. That doesn't seem even

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Speaker 7: physically possible. Even though in the Super Bowl run Austin

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Speaker 7: right in twenty twenty one had to see sacked them

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Speaker 7: nine times in the division around they still won. Riam

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Speaker 7: sacked them seven times. They almost won the super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: Like I saw Bill Belichick, who I've always thought was

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Speaker 7: slightly overrated. It was more Tom Brady than Belichick. But

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Speaker 7: Belichick one of the things he was so great at

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Speaker 7: is when you would go head to head against the team,

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Speaker 7: he would identify the key defensive player and take him

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Speaker 7: out of the game, like you're going against Aaron Donalds

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Speaker 7: and the Super Bowl seven seasons ago the Patriots and

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Speaker 7: gained him. He didn't even know he was on the field. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 7: you know, three years later he should have been the

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Speaker 7: MVP of that Super Bowl Againstincinnati because you have to

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Speaker 7: prioritize that this guy's not going.

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Speaker 3: To beat us.

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Speaker 7: You have to be flexible week to week. And it

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Speaker 7: just goes back to coaching. And again for the four

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Speaker 7: in the time, I'm going to mention Scott Peters, but

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Speaker 7: I still I'm not sure how he's.

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Speaker 2: A job in the NFL. But until you decide.

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Speaker 7: To go spend money on coaches, not just the head coach,

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Speaker 7: but on the assistant coaches and build a real staff,

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Speaker 7: you're going to be at a deficit no matter what

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Speaker 7: the team looks like. And know, we all agree the

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Speaker 7: team is basically a great quarterback, a great wide receiver,

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Speaker 7: and a bunch of other guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I mean, there's been

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Speaker 2: opportunities in the past. We talked about Bill Callahan, the

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Speaker 2: offensive line coach that was in Cleveland for years and

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Speaker 2: is now in Tennessee with Brian Callahan and widely regarded

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Speaker 2: as the best in the game, and how he never

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Speaker 2: got to Cincinnati while Brian was here was confusing. And

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Speaker 2: you know, some of the other guys that have come

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Speaker 2: out of out of the Eagles. I'm blanking on the

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Speaker 2: Eagles offensive line coach. His name right now, his name

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Speaker 2: is Jeff something. But the way that they build and

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Speaker 2: develop and just basically manufacture offensive lineman out of a

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Speaker 2: factory there, and understanding the t h that you're looking

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Speaker 2: for and the guys you're trying to draft and the

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Speaker 2: production level that they had in college and all that,

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Speaker 2: and how you can turn that into a good offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. And then on top of that, matching

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Speaker 2: the player's skill set to the scheme. And you know,

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Speaker 2: we've talked in the past about how, you know, the

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Speaker 2: protections don't often match what the play is. And the

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Speaker 2: play you're referencing about Joe Burrow getting hurt, it was

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Speaker 2: a quick slant to Jamar Chase on the outside, and

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Speaker 2: the offensive lineman are dropping back like it's a seven

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Speaker 2: step drop, and before you know it, they're allowing people

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Speaker 2: into the lap of Joe Burrow. So, who knows, maybe

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Speaker 2: that was a miscommunication and you know they got the

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Speaker 2: wrong read. But oftentimes it feels like the protections don't

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Speaker 2: match the design, and that's a major issue.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't even plays that I recall looked like a screen

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Speaker 7: like half the lineman thought it was a screen, you know,

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Speaker 7: letting the defender penetrate, and then go forward to set

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Speaker 7: up the screen and there's no screen. So I mean

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Speaker 7: they practice what's the whole mechanism with that? In terms

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Speaker 7: of coaching, and again a lot of it does come

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Speaker 7: back to coaching.

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Speaker 8: You still need players.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Bill Callahan's the offensive line coach now in

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Speaker 7: Tennessee and they're not really availing themselves too well, so

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Speaker 7: they don't have the talent. You still need the talent,

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Speaker 7: But the elevator is the coach, especially on that in

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Speaker 7: that position, Austin, I really believe after the head coach,

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Speaker 7: the most important coach on a on a team is

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Speaker 7: the offensive line coach because that really sets the tone

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Speaker 7: for you. Look at Jared Goff. Jared Goff's a really

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Speaker 7: good quarterback. I think he's a favorite to win the

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Speaker 7: MVP right now. He plays with such an ease because

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Speaker 7: he knows he's gonna have time to throw and everything's

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Speaker 7: gonna work out for him. He's not gonna get drilled.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna get sacked. And these guys can survive sacks.

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Speaker 7: You know, when they get the win knocked out of.

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Speaker 9: Them and get it.

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Speaker 7: They can't survive when people are smashing into your you know,

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Speaker 7: achilles tendon and causing your total rupture. That's that's not

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Speaker 7: a good thing. So that's that's the crust of the

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Speaker 7: problem and the way to way to fix it does

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Speaker 7: not just spend on players, but spend on coaches and

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Speaker 7: development and have a bigger staff to get the most

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Speaker 7: out of these guys.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. John, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the phone call. Man, appreciate it anytime, Austin.

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Speaker 3: Have a great dake.

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Speaker 2: That is John in Boston. And Yeah, we've talked seemingly

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Speaker 2: endlessly about the Bengals offensive line over the years and

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Speaker 2: how they just can't seem to figure it out, whether

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Speaker 2: it's drafting, developing, retaining. You'll hear from Andrew Whitworth talking

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Speaker 2: about that. It's just it's it's hard to understand. And

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Speaker 2: he brought up the offensive line that was in front

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Speaker 2: of Joe Burrow in the Super Bowl. I had forgotten

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Speaker 2: about this. I looked it up while John was talking.

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Speaker 2: The Pro Football Focus grades from the Bengals starting offensive

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Speaker 2: line in Super Bowl fifty six. Jonah Williams had a

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Speaker 2: forty one point four, Trey Hopkins had a fifty point

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Speaker 2: nine in Spain had a twenty point three, Hakeem Identergy

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Speaker 2: a twenty six point zero, and Isaiah Prince a two

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Speaker 2: point four two point four. It's amazing they even got

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Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. It's amazing they were one block

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Speaker 2: away from potentially winning it with that deep ball to

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Speaker 2: chase down the sideline. I've been thinking about that Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl a lot this week and really this season, ever

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Speaker 2: since Burrow went down, because there's this quote from Dan

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Speaker 2: Campbell when they lost the NFC Championship Game a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. I think to San Francisco after the game,

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, brutally honest as he always is, said, this

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Speaker 2: might have been our only shot. That's no way for like,

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Speaker 2: you would never think to think like that in the

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Speaker 2: immediate aftermath of a devastating loss. But it's true. Just

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Speaker 2: because you get to the Super Bowl doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 2: guaranteed to get back, or just because you get to

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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get back.

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Speaker 2: In that mindset by Dan Campbell, we often talk about

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Speaker 2: his mindset when it comes to fourth downs in the

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Speaker 2: aggressiveness or whatever it's it is an organizational mindset from

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Speaker 2: the top down in Detroit that we are going to

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Speaker 2: be in aggressive pursuit of a championship no matter what.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Campbell did in that an FC Championship game,

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Speaker 2: and he understood in the immediate aftermath, this might be

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Speaker 2: our only shot. That has to be the mentality of

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Speaker 2: the Bengals front office. That has to be the mentality

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Speaker 2: of every single person in that organize. We have Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow this year, and this year alone might be our

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Speaker 2: only shot. And Burrow continues to get hurt because they

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Speaker 2: don't have that mindset. Hey, here's the most important figure

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Speaker 2: in the history of the franchise not named Paul Brown.

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Speaker 2: We should do everything in our power to protect him.

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Speaker 2: We've got to give him everything he needs so that

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Speaker 2: he can take us from where we are to where

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Speaker 2: we want to be. And you know, and the Bengals

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Speaker 2: should know this because they've had some great quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: the past. Ken Anderson he got there once, Boomra Siason,

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Speaker 2: he got there once. Carson Palmer obviously not at the

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Speaker 2: same level as those other two or Burrow, but was

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Speaker 2: a legitimate franchise quarterback, and Burrow he got there once.

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Speaker 2: These quarterbacks don't just grow on trees. They don't just

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Speaker 2: crop up out of anywhere, out of nowhere. You still

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Speaker 2: have to build around them so that you maximize the

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Speaker 2: window that is their career. The Bengals failed with Palmer

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Speaker 2: to an extent, they failed with Dalton. We know that

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Speaker 2: they ultimately failed with Boomera Sizon, and they failed with

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Speaker 2: Ken Anderson as well. Surely the mistakes of the past

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Speaker 2: won't carry on to to this quarterback, right and yet

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Speaker 2: here we are six years into Burrow's NFL career and

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Speaker 2: we're still having this conversation. How is that possible? We'll

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Speaker 2: take a break. This is Sincy three sixty on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to since He three sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: I'm Austin Elmore. Coming up in about five minutes from

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Speaker 2: right now, you'll hear from Joe Daniman. Joe's gonna stop

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Speaker 2: what he's got. Some other NFL headlines before we move

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Speaker 2: on to our number two Texans GM Nick Cassario said

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Speaker 2: that Joe Mixon is unclear to return this season. Mixon's

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Speaker 2: He said they will have clarity on mixing over the

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Speaker 2: the quote duration of the year. So a really strange

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Speaker 2: situation with Joe Mixon there, to say the least. Looking

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Speaker 2: ahead two next week in the National Football League, the

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Speaker 2: schedule is interesting. There's a lot of weird games. There's

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Speaker 2: another Monday night doubleheader. It's Buffalo at Atlanta and Chicago

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Speaker 2: at Washington. Now I get the Bears Commanders, that's like

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Speaker 2: the rewind of that rematch it at Hail Mary game

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Speaker 2: last year. But you've got New England at New Orleans,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers at Miami, Arizona at Indianapolis. Denver and New

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Speaker 2: York play in London at Tottenham HOTSPA. Another international game.

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Speaker 2: Thursday night game this week is Philly at the Giants.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles are in a weird spot right now. Maybe

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Speaker 2: a get right game for them. Tennessee is at Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco at Tampa. That's gonna be a great one.

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night next week is Detroit at Kansas City. That'll

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Speaker 2: be a fun one already. I'm a little surprised by this.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are two and a half point favorites in

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Speaker 2: that game. I'm a little surprised by that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: if you're wondering about the Bengals, Green Bay still favored

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Speaker 2: Forty four and a half for Bengals at Packers four

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Speaker 2: to our guy Joe Danoman from Fox nineteen Joey d

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Speaker 2: As They call him Joey d What up?

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Speaker 8: Okay, Audie?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead? Yes, uh huh okay.

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Speaker 11: So I'm on the sideline shooting the game Sunday Bengals

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Speaker 11: and lines and pay Course Stadium, And when your first

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Speaker 11: name is the same name as the celebrity quarterback in

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Speaker 11: that city, you get pretty used to hearing your name

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Speaker 11: and ignoring it because you know.

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Speaker 8: They're not talking to you. I hear someone from the.

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Speaker 11: Stands yelling Joe repeatedly, and in my brain, I'm thinking, well,

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Speaker 11: they're talking about Joe Burrow. Then I think about it more.

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Speaker 11: I'm like, Joe's not on the sidelines. Are they talking

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Speaker 11: to me? And the guy finally says hey, Danniman and

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Speaker 11: I turn around and this guy had made his way down.

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Speaker 8: To the front row. He looks right at me and

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Speaker 8: goes Gee. And on a Sunday at pay.

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Speaker 2: Course Stadium, that is hilarious. Did you go to the

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Speaker 2: wrestling when it was here that I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what it was or where it was, but I know

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Speaker 2: it was here.

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Speaker 8: Did you go down Friday night? It's SmackDown.

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Speaker 11: I did not get to go because Friday night is

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Speaker 11: one of the most important days of the week for

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Speaker 11: a local TV guy that couldn't make it.

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Speaker 2: H Let me start with Burrow, actually is do you

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Speaker 2: have any indication on when he may return to the sidelines,

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Speaker 2: if he will return, is he going to be in

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Speaker 2: the booth? Is there any has he been around? Do

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Speaker 2: we know anything about that?

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Speaker 11: This is a great question because we're standing in the

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Speaker 11: Bengals locker room yesterday and here comes Joe walking in.

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Speaker 8: I said walking.

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Speaker 11: He had a walking boot on, and I turned to

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Speaker 11: the other media members to ask them if this was new,

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Speaker 11: because I was in LA during Bengals open media time

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Speaker 11: last week and was not around to see if Burrow

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Speaker 11: had done that yet, because the last time I sold

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Speaker 11: Joe he had a cast on and was using a

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Speaker 11: scooter post surgery to get around the Bengals locker room.

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Speaker 11: So to see him in a walking boot walking was

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Speaker 11: different for me, and I asked around and most everybody

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Speaker 11: I asked to the same question that they said they

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Speaker 11: had not seen it, and I kind of gathered that

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Speaker 11: no one saw him last week at all, so that

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Speaker 11: seemed to be a new development that Joe was up

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Speaker 11: and walking around in a walking boot where he is

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Speaker 11: on Sundays. We don't know he wasn't on the sideline,

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Speaker 11: no one had eyes on him inside of a suite.

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Speaker 11: I'm assuming he's somewhere at the stadium when the Bengals

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Speaker 11: play home games. I'm sure he's trying to keep a

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Speaker 11: low profile for multiple reasons. But to see him walking

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Speaker 11: around in a walking boot yesterday was different. And that's

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Speaker 11: the latest update I have on one Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: As for the person who is manning his position in

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Speaker 2: the meantime, Jake Browning didn't play well on Sunday. Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor seemed to leave the door open to potentially making

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Speaker 2: a change. How do you see this playing out before

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Speaker 2: Green Bay on Sunday?

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Speaker 11: I think if we're going to handicap this, I think

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Speaker 11: the favorite is going to be Jake Browning, just because

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Speaker 11: the options in house I don't believe are good enough

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Speaker 11: to convince the locker room that someone else gives them

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Speaker 11: a better chance of winning. Sean Clifford's been here for

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Speaker 11: what a month and is on the practice squad, so

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Speaker 11: I don't think he's an option. So the options are

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Speaker 11: Jake Browning and Brett Rippon, and I believe that both

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Speaker 11: Zach Taylor and the Bengals players believe that Jake Browning,

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Speaker 11: and this is a hard sentence I'm sure for Bengals

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Speaker 11: fans to hear, give them gives them the best chance

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Speaker 11: of winning, not just this week, but going forward. Now

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Speaker 11: there's a separate discussion to have about should they look

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Speaker 11: outside of the organization to bring someone in. Quite honestly,

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Speaker 11: to this point, you're wondering if it's getting too late

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Speaker 11: because the amount of time it would say to get

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Speaker 11: someone here, get them up to speed, get them ready,

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Speaker 11: the Bengals still going to be afloat and have a

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Speaker 11: pulse for the second half of the season. Given the

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Speaker 11: fact that even though the AFC is wide open, if

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Speaker 11: you fall to two and five, which this team is

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Speaker 11: staring at with two hard opponents coming up the next

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Speaker 11: two weeks, I just wonder if it's going to be

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Speaker 11: too late for this team to bring in somebody. And

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Speaker 11: there's also the other argument you can make about investing

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Speaker 11: in what kind of feels like a lost season already

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Speaker 11: without Joe Burrows. So to answer your original question, I

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Speaker 11: would be stunned if anybody else besides Jake Browning on Sunday,

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Speaker 11: I truly believe of the options that are in the

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Speaker 11: building he gives them the best chance of being successful.

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Speaker 11: As much as people think that Jamar Chase and t

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Speaker 11: Higgins or offensive weapons take your favorite one might be

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Speaker 11: losing faith in Jake Browning, they continue to publicly back him.

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Speaker 11: The mood in the vibe I get from them is

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Speaker 11: that they still believe they can play competitive football with

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Speaker 11: him from talking to them both Sunday and seeing them

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Speaker 11: yesterday as well. So I think Jake brown is going

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Speaker 11: to be the guy until that changes. I will be

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Speaker 11: surprised if somebody else is out on the field this

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Speaker 11: coming Sunday or any time in the future.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's more detrimental to the culture of

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Speaker 2: the locker room to keep running Jake Browning out there

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Speaker 2: if he continues to perform that way, or to just

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Speaker 2: kind of have this carousel of quarterbacks trying to find

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Speaker 2: something or does it not matter if you lose, you

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Speaker 2: lose and it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think there becomes a breaking point with everybody that

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Speaker 11: if it becomes so non competitive, you've got to do

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Speaker 11: something just to do something different. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 11: reality of sports. Sometimes sometimes it's a change just to

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Speaker 11: make a change. And it's felt like we were at

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Speaker 11: that edge on Sunday against the Lions, and Zach Taylor

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Speaker 11: even acknowledged that yesterday when speaking at his press conference

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Speaker 11: that he felt it, how could you not field inside

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Speaker 11: that stadium? The fans urging a change. Now, I remember

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Speaker 11: being a young kid going to Bangalis games at Riverfront

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Speaker 11: Coliseum or at Riverfront Stadium, excuse me, And I remember

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Speaker 11: being part of the crowd that was starting an Eric

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Speaker 11: Kresser chant. They get Eric Kresher into a game and

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Speaker 11: it worked, and they put Eric Kresser in and on

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Speaker 11: his first pass he threw a pick, and you got

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Speaker 11: to be saying, what are we doing?

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Speaker 8: So sometimes, yeah, the.

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Speaker 11: Decisions have to come from the coaches, not necessarily the fans.

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Speaker 11: And again I go back to the fact that even though,

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Speaker 11: and this is.

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Speaker 8: The discussion Austin, is.

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Speaker 11: Why is Jake Browning not performing like he did two

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Speaker 11: years ago?

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Speaker 8: Because we have the baseline of.

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Speaker 11: This guy being somewhat successful, playing good enough football for

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Speaker 11: this team to win games. Now, I would encourage people

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Speaker 11: to go back and look at the twenty twenty three

864
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 11: season and the games he played, and see the games

865
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 11: he had success in and the games he did not

866
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 11: have success in. He did not have success against the

867
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 11: Steelers in two games, he did have success against non

868
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 11: playoff teams playing with backup quarterbacks, and the Bengals won

869
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 11: those games. So the other part of this problem is

870
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 11: that Jake Browning has been thrown into what is the

871
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 11: most difficult part of the Bengals schedule, where he's playing

872
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 11: nothing but playoff teams and he's playing either elite defenses

873
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 11: or elite offenses that he has to try to keep

874
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 11: up with. And this is not an excuse for Jake Browning,

875
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 11: because even if you are playing elite defenses, it has

876
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 11: to look a lot better than what we've seen from

877
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 11: his three starts so far. But Jacksonville's four and one,

878
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 11: and he was functional against Jacksonville, and he made mistakes,

879
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 11: but he also made plays. And that Jacksonville is going

880
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 11: to be a playoff team and it looks like they

881
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 11: might be somewhere inside, Jake Browning is a guy that

882
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 11: can't help this team be competitive against good teams. The

883
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 11: question for Zach Taylor then becomes, how do you get

884
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 11: better at Jake Browning? How do you get in the

885
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 11: Jake Browning of twenty twenty three, In twenty twenty five

886
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 11: and that is the urgency for this coaching staff to

887
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 11: figure out very quickly, otherwise what's already spiraling might go

888
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 11: down the drink.

889
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: Zach had kind of loosely mentioned Sunday about play calling

890
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: and how he puts a lot of that on himself

891
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: as well. I don't know if I would necessarily agree

892
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: with that. He was then asked again about it yesterday

893
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: and said he will continue to call plays. Where do

894
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: you think Zach is at right now with all of this?

895
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: And I guess trying to manage because there were plays

896
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: to be had and they didn't make them, and Jake

897
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: specifically didn't make them. So how does Zach deal with that?

898
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 12: Like?

899
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: How do you get from I'm calling the right play

900
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: but you're not executing it to trying to make a

901
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: player better? Like how do you you know what I'm saying?

902
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: Like I don't even not ask the question because it

903
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: feels like it's such a weird situation.

904
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 11: Well, it feels like almost fans hap to decide what

905
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 11: side they're.

906
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 8: On that Who's to blame?

907
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 11: Is it the quarterback who's not seeing it, or is

908
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 11: it the play caller who's not getting the quarterback into

909
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 11: the right place to be successful or is it the

910
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 11: head coach that's not getting the quarterback ready throughout the

911
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 11: week given that he's an offensive minded head coach for

912
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 11: him to play his best football. I think we have

913
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 11: to go back and understand that Zach Taylor is not

914
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 11: a young head coach. This is his seventh season doing

915
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 11: this in Cincinnati. At this point, he knows how to

916
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 11: manage his week. He knows how to.

917
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 8: Delegate this week his week.

918
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 11: You can argue given the results that without Joe Burrow,

919
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 11: that he has to elevate his game, but I don't

920
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 11: think it's going to change. And so I think the

921
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 11: idea of Zach Taylor in play calling becomes a bit

922
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 11: of a moot discussion. Certainly, it's one that's debatable amongst fans,

923
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 11: and they should debate it because that's what we do

924
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 11: when we watch games and we observe games and we

925
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 11: talk about it is deciding who did well, who deserves blame,

926
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 11: and everybody can decide for themselves, whether it's Zach Taylor,

927
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 11: whether it's Jake Browning. But he does everything intentionally, he

928
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 11: being Zach Taylor with the idea.

929
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: Of oh uh, oh, Joe, we have breaking news, and

930
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: if you have to get off if you have to

931
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: get off the phone, I understand. Ian Rapaport of NFL Network,

932
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: Joe is reporting that the Bengals are trading for Joe Flacco.

933
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. Okay, Joe fun, Joe Danoman. Get ready for

934
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: people to be yelling Joe again. Uh. Your immediate reaction,

935
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: Joe Danoman to the Bengals trading for Joe Flacco.

936
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 11: My immediate reaction is Joejoe Flacco. We talked about the

937
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 11: ramp up time it takes for quarterbacks right to come

938
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 11: in here, learn a system, and then be competitive on

939
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 11: the field. Joe Flacco, to me, accelerates that timeline of

940
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 11: giving them a new.

941
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 8: Option because he's been in the league so long.

942
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 11: It also, to me tells me what the Browns think

943
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 11: of Joe Flacco that they would trade him in division.

944
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 9: But certainly you have to.

945
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 11: Credit the Bengals for right understanding the situation, reading the AFC,

946
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 11: seeing there's still an opportunity to be competitive going forward.

947
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 11: So the fact that they're going out and being proactive

948
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 11: and getting a guy and taking a shot, to me,

949
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 11: at least at least tells the fan base they're trying.

950
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 11: They're trying something here and not just beating their head

951
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 11: against the wall with Jake Browning playing bash football.

952
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was looking earlier this morning because I

953
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: was trying to think if they go go and get somebody,

954
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: would it be somebody who has played Green Bay already

955
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: this season, just in the event that he's needed. And

956
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: he has Joe Flacco earlier this year in a thirteen

957
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: to ten win for the Browns over the Packers, was

958
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 2: twenty one of thirty six for one hundred and forty

959
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: two yards, zero touchdowns, one interception. I guess is he

960
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: the favorite to start?

961
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 8: Boy, that's the question.

962
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 11: That's the question, right, Can they get this guy ready.

963
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 8: In a matter of four or five.

964
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 11: Days to play in Green Bay. I'm not going to

965
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 11: say no. I think certainly the easy answer would be, Okay,

966
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 11: the Bengals have this distretch right of two games and

967
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 11: however many days, what ten eleven days? And then you

968
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 11: get the mini bye week after the Thursday night game

969
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 11: to get Joe Flaco out there. If you're trading for

970
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 11: Joe Flacco, you're trying to maintain a level of competitiveness

971
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 11: in a year where some of the contenders might be

972
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 11: a little bit down. Baltimore's one and four and plays

973
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 11: the Rams this coming Sunday, So they're staring at possible

974
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 11: one and five start in the face the Kansas City Chiefs,

975
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 11: who I thought looked really good last night. And Patrick

976
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 11: Mahomes looks like himself. Athletic, fast, young, he looks like that. Again,

977
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 11: They're two and four, possibly if they lose against the

978
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 11: Lions this coming Sunday. So there are some contenders that

979
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 11: we expect that are down. And so there's a shot

980
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 11: here in the AFC that if you can get to

981
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 11: nine wins, nine wins might be enough. And once you

982
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 11: get past this two game stretch, the Bengals schedule opens

983
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 11: up with some winnable games. There could be seven or

984
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 11: eight wins on the Bengals schedule. So yeah, that's going

985
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 11: to be the question starting tomorrow. Right, is Joe Flacco

986
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 11: going to be ready in tie for the Bengals.

987
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 8: To go to Green Bay? I think so.

988
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 11: The fact that he's played enough football, I think the

989
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 11: Bengals could be able to cater an offensive game plan

990
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 11: around him. Look at your Jamar Chase and your T Higgins,

991
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 11: and you've seen what this guy does with weapons down

992
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 11: the field.

993
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 8: It's got to be fun.

994
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 11: It's different, and to me, it just shows the fan

995
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 11: base and the locker room that you're willing and trying

996
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 11: to do something to keep this season afloat because there's

997
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 11: still twelve weeks. We're still twelve weeks of football, and

998
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 11: if nothing else, this shows people that they're at least trying.

999
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think back to twenty twenty three, similar situation.

1000
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: Cleveland has their quarterback go down in November and they

1001
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: turned to Joe Flacco and he rips off four wins

1002
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: in the last five six games, very similar to what

1003
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: Jake Browning did in that same stretch of time for

1004
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals. So I guess if you can't recreate the

1005
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: magic with Jake Browning from twenty twenty three, you try

1006
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: it with Joe Flacco. So it is a sixth round

1007
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: pick going to the Bengals, I guess, according to these

1008
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: different reports. So all right, that pretty much sums it

1009
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: up that the answer to all the questions we've been

1010
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: asking was answered right there while we were on the air. Joe,

1011
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: it was a pleasure to share the airwaves with you

1012
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: during that announcement.

1013
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 8: Can I say this, though.

1014
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want.

1015
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 11: Now, now they're getting maybe the NFL's most immobile quarterback

1016
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 11: behind an offensive line that I think.

1017
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 8: Might be the root of all the problems.

1018
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 11: Yes, you think about a problem that has happening right

1019
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 11: now with the Bengals offense, whether it be the run game,

1020
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 11: whether it be the quarterback play, whether it's Joe Burrow's injury.

1021
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 11: It's an offensive line simply that has not been good

1022
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 11: enough from day one at the start of the year.

1023
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 8: And now now you're adding Joe.

1024
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 11: Flacco, who is probably the most immobile quarterback in the

1025
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 11: NFL and putting him behind that offensive line. To me,

1026
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 11: that's a little bit scary. But but you use the word,

1027
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 11: use the word magic, that the magic he had in

1028
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 11: Cleveland and leading them to the playoffs, and the magical

1029
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 11: run of all the plays he made down the field

1030
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 11: with Amari Cooper. You're trying to find something that adds energy.

1031
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 11: Then this will add energy. The Bengals are back in

1032
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 11: the conversation now National Leite people are going to be

1033
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 11: talking about them today. Whether Joe Flacco can be ready

1034
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 11: to play on Sunday or not. Certainly there's going to

1035
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 11: be energy inside the Bangles locker room with this team

1036
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 11: trying to give them something to go to h to

1037
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 11: recreate something here in the middle part of the season.

1038
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 11: But yeah, when you think about it a little bit,

1039
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 11: you start thinking about Joe Flacco and his inability to

1040
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 11: move being behind an offensive line that has an inability

1041
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 11: to protect his quarterback. Because to me, it's the reason

1042
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 11: Joe's hurt, and to me it's the reason Jake Browning

1043
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 11: hasn't played well. I think I think Jake Browning after

1044
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 11: that Minnesota game started looking over both shoulders at all times,

1045
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 11: wondering where the pressure is coming from, and it affected

1046
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 11: his play. So that's certainly something that it goes along

1047
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 11: with this conversation of bringing in Joe Flacco, a guy

1048
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 11: that can certainly throw it, a guy who can certainly

1049
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 11: read a defense, but a guy who can't move very

1050
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 11: well in the pocket now behind an offensive line that

1051
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 11: really can't protect him.

1052
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this final question. As a quarterback,

1053
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: would you rather be unable to throw or unable to move?

1054
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: Because that feels like what the Bengals are choosing between here.

1055
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 8: Yes, isn't that great? Certainly I'd rather be un Joe Flacco.

1056
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 11: Side that if you block here, here's the thing in

1057
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 11: the NFL, right, if it's a running back or a quarterback,

1058
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 11: if you block it up, it has to be executed.

1059
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 11: And that's the one thing Joe Flacco can do. If

1060
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 11: you block it up and give him a shot, he

1061
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 11: can rip a throw and execute a play. So, uh yeah,

1062
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 11: I think the Bengals are going to try to bang

1063
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 11: on that.

1064
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: Yep. I'm right there with you, Joe. Thank you so much.

1065
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again next week.

1066
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 8: That was fun, Austin.

1067
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:51,479
Speaker 4: Just do it again.

1068
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I'll give you a chance. What do

1069
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: you got coming up? What do people need to know

1070
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: about you and your coverage of the Bengals. Joe Flacco

1071
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: going to come down and join the live show this week,

1072
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: that's right?

1073
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1074
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 11: Can you imagine he's got nothing to do, come on

1075
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 11: down and yumping up with a couple of local TD

1076
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 11: guys in front of a live studio audience. Evan McPherson

1077
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 11: tomorrow night. Evan mcpheerson is a very, very fun guest.

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Speaker 11: So we'll have him tomorrow night at Newport and then

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Speaker 11: Sunday all weekend long.

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Speaker 8: I'll be in Green Bay with coverage.

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Speaker 2: Make sure that you ask Evan how sore he was

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01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: after being at the bottom of the pile of the

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01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: on side kick, because you know, he didn't get a

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01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: lot of contact, and I would imagine about that he

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: felt a little. That was my favorite play from Sunday

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: because Evan McPherson was fighting. He didn't care. He was

1087
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: going after it and I appreciated that. Joe, thanks so

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: much to.

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Speaker 8: Recreate that tomorrow night at Bengals.

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01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 11: Now we're gonna have a live on side kick tutorial

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Speaker 11: from Evan.

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Speaker 2: See y'all, I love it. Thanks Joe. That is Joey D.

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01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: Fox nineteen. Joe, Okay, there it is. The Bengals have

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01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: traded for a quarterback. Charlie Goldsmith puts this on his

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01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: social media. This was a twenty twenty two quote from

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor on Joe Flacco quote. I see a guy

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01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: who has seen everything. He plays with confidence, poise, and

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: plays on time. He can make any throw, Charlie continues.

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01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Flacco threw some picks this year, but he generally operates

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01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: the offense and is accurate. The under center play action

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01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: game is something to work with, Charlie continues. The Browns

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01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: also benched him. He wasn't able to hold onto the

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01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: starting spot in Indianapolis last year. Either is this the

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01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 2: most aggressive in season trade in Bengals history? The alternative

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: would have been pretty hard to sell. That comes from

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01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: our friend Charlie Goldsmith. All right, we'll take a break.

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01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: I'll get some more information. Actually, I do believe I

1108
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: have the the trade details here in front of me.

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Speaker 2: All right, So the Bengals are receiving Joe Flacco and

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01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: a sixth round pick. That sixth round pick was originally

1111
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: the sixth round pick of the Detroit Lions. In exchange,

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals are sending a fifth round pick to Cleveland.

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01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: So it is Joe Flacco and a sixth for a

1114
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: fifth from the Bengals. This will be the seventh NFL

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01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: team that Joe Joe Flacco has played for. It will

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01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: be the third AFC North team for him. It is

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01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: the first time that the Bengals have ever completed a

1118
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: trade with the Cleveland Browns. You may remember that they

1119
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: tried to trade AJ mccerron to the Browns several years ago,

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01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: but the Browns screwed up the paperwork and it did

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: not go through. So there you have it. Joe Flacco

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01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: is the guy five three seven four nine fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: is the phone number. Let's do talkbacks in their normal

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01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: spot as we always do, and we'll get your reaction

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01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: to the Bengals trading for Joe Flacco. This is ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Money. That's money.

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Speaker 2: Answer it now, Hey Alexa, what's going on in the Ennit.

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Speaker 8: Pressed the microphonent.

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Speaker 13: Record your message us then, and don't please keep the clean.

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Speaker 14: A sprinkle spring cop owl.

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Speaker 15: Wish that temple to be it's our favorite parts.

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Speaker 16: Sorry three sex stay.

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 17: Stays on your screen and try not to sabitize it.

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Speaker 2: I will play the talkbacks on my screen in just

1138
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 2: a moment. In case you missed it. Breaking news, the

1139
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: Bengals have traded for a quarterback. They are trading for

1140
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight eighteenth overall pick in the first

1141
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: round from the University of Delaware, Joe Flacco six foot six,

1142
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty five pound big fella. So far

1143
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: this season, in a couple of games with the Browns,

1144
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: Joe has thrown for eight hundred and fifteen yards, two

1145
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: touchdowns and six interceptions. He has a QBR of twenty

1146
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 2: seven point six. It's thirty first in the NFL. You

1147
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: might imagine who's thirty two. I don't know. You might imagine.

1148
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: In his four games so far this season, Flaco against

1149
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: the Bengals was thirty one of forty five two hundred

1150
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: and ninety yards, one touchdown, two picks. In a forty

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: one seventeen loss to Baltimore against that terrible secondary, Flaco

1152
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: was twenty five of forty five for one hundred and

1153
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: ninety nine yards, one touchdown, one pick. In the thirteen

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01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: to ten win over Green Bay, Flacco was twenty one

1155
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: of thirty six for one hundred and forty two yards,

1156
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, one pick, and in the loss to Detroit

1157
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: last week or two weeks ago, Flacco was sixteen of

1158
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: thirty four for one hundred and eighty four yards, no touchdowns,

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: two picks. He was sacked twice by the Bengals, twice

1160
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: by the Ravens, twice by the Packers, and three times

1161
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: by the Detroit Lions. As a whole this season, he's

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: completing fifty eight point one percent of his passes for

1163
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: an average of five point one yards per completion. This

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: is by no means an elite quarterback that they are

1165
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: acquiring here, however, for a pick swap at that sheep price.

1166
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: And I mean it when I say surely they can't

1167
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: be worse. Surely he can't be worse than Jake Browning.

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going off of.

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01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: You talk about the idea of it being a difficult

1171
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: week to come in and get ready and play the

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01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, it's also made harder by the fact

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01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: that the Browns played in London last week, Like two

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01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: days ago, they played in London, and so Flacco returning

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: back from London is pretty amazing. Okay, all right, let's

1176
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: do talkbacks. I'm gonna play him in reverse order so

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Speaker 2: we get the immediate reaction from the Joe Flacco news.

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01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 18: I wouldn't doubt it. If Flaco started Sunday against the Packers.

1179
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 18: How hard can it be to pick up Zach Taylor's

1180
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 18: elementary offense. He'd probably get that in a day and

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01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 18: a half.

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01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 8: What a day.

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01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 18: If he had to ask me what quarterback in the

1185
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 18: league would the Bengals trade for, I never would have

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01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 18: thought it'd be Joe Flaco.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't either, I really wouldn't and according to Diana

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01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: Russini of the Atha, she says the Bengals internally discussed

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01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: different options at quarterback, and she is told that the

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01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: team never called the Giants about trading for either Russell

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01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: Wilson or Jamis Winston. So take that with what you will.

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01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 8: Wait, who are we signing? Joe Namath?

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 11: Sweet? No, name it?

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01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 8: Joe Montana awesome?

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 15: Wait no, Joe Siveman.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wait now, Joe Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 19: Oh my god, I take back everything I've ever said

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Speaker 19: about Mike Brown.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 17: So we need help at quarterback. And their answer to

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01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 17: that is to ask Cleveland. Okay, uh yeah sure, I

1202
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 17: mean they know how to identify quarterback. Tellent right, let's

1203
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 17: take one of the guys that yeah they cast off.

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think that pretty much perfectly sums it up.

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 20: Still repping the nattie out here in sunny hot zone.

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01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 20: And what up, Oddie, I'm confused. Wacko Flacco?

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Speaker 8: Real talk?

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01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 20: We just signed Wacko Flacco from that team up north.

1209
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 20: They must be desperate, because we're desperate too. And I

1210
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 20: don't know about this. I don't know if he's the

1211
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 20: answer or not, but I know one thing JB six

1212
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 20: stinks and looking at JB nine in that boot man

1213
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 20: hurts my feelings.

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: Man can't wait till.

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Speaker 9: He get back.

1216
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: We saw miss Joe Burrow.

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 4: Wacko Flacco. We really got wacko Flacco.

1218
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,879
Speaker 2: Oh no, wacko Flacco.

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01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 8: What's up off this Joe?

1220
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 9: In Baltimore? There was a time here, not too long ago,

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 9: when this city was wacko for Flacco. Whoa, I guess

1222
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 9: Now in Cincinnati we are wacko for Flacco. I don't

1223
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 9: know how it's gonna go.

1224
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 8: But whatever they're trying.

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: Who they that's true. I can at least understand that

1226
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: they are trying. They may not be making an educated guess,

1227
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: but they're making a guess.

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01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 12: I just heard the news about the Bengals trading for

1229
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 12: Joe Flacco. Yeah, oh my god, they're gonna get this

1230
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 12: guy killed. Say your prayers, Joe, good luck, buddy.

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01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 2: When you look at the advanced statistics Joe Flacco career

1233
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: statistics under pressure from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five,

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01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: it's not good. It's actually quite bad. It was especially

1235
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: really bad this year. Okay, it's the Lord.

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 21: We're getting Joe Flaco. Hey, that's better than Jake Browning.

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01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 21: Do you know if he's going to start right away

1238
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 21: or do we have to go through another week of

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01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 21: Jake Browning? Please say no, I'd rather have Joe.

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Speaker 2: Hard to say, it's really hard to say. It just

1241
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: depends how you know he he shows up and what

1242
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: he can do and how he takes to the offense.

1243
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: I'll know, I have no idea.

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01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 6: dB fifteen otder So's coach Zach Taylor says that Joe

1245
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 6: Flacco can make all of Rosen there's nothing.

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 17: He hasn't seen.

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 6: Well, in my opinion, I don't know if he can

1248
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 6: throw from his back because that's probably where he's gonna be.

1249
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 6: What the Bengals offensive line, and they also said he

1250
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 6: likes to do he's good from the play action. Well,

1251
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 6: does Zach Taylor have any play action plays in his playbook?

1252
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 6: Just wondering anyhow, Whude go Reds go Bearcats.

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01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 2: You know, it's actually funny about that. I saw statistic

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: the other day. Joe Burrow last year about twenty five

1255
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 2: percent of his dropbacks were play action pass. Jake Browning

1256
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: has been about thirty five percent, so ten percent more

1257
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: often play action pass. Now that's not usually under center,

1258
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 2: which is a big difference.

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Speaker 15: But you know, I was watching that game last night,

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01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 15: and as good as it was, I was starting to

1261
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 15: think Trevor Lawrence was just a more mobile and adultant

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 15: until he gets off the ground and runs in for

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01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 15: a game winning touchdowns. So kodos to him for that.

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Speaker 15: No shot at Andy, just a thought about Trevor Lawrence

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 15: and Joe Flacco former Super Bowl winning quarterback granted thirteen

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01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 15: years ago, but definitely probably a upgrade over Browning. Let's

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01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 15: see how this plays out now. Flaco is only one

1268
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 15: team away from playing for everybody in the air sne or.

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01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: Yes, yes he is. Maybe he replaces Aaron Rodgers next year.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Austin, with the addition of Flacco, Taylor is going

1271
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 13: to have to change the offensive scheme and play calling.

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 13: Otherwise he's gonna only bury himself. He's got no one

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01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 13: to blame now but himself.

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Speaker 9: Who THEE?

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that becomes really interesting because if

1276
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: the idea is to operate the offense that I swear man,

1277
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: and I know Tony made a breakdown of this on

1278
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: his social media, like, there are plays that were there

1279
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: and Jake Brownie didn't make the throw and every time

1280
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: he wasn't pressured, he had time and he knew how

1281
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: to make a decision. You're banking on Joe Flacco can

1282
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: make the throw. He knows where to go with the ball,

1283
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: He understands the leverage of the cornerback, where the safety's at,

1284
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: whether he can or cannot fit the ball in, how

1285
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: quickly he can get the ball down to his checkdown. Like,

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01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: at the bare minimum, you're just saying, Okay, this guy

1287
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: can operate the offense better. Then you start building around

1288
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: what he's good at, which is play action under center,

1289
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Now, does Joe Flacco make you

1290
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: a better running football team?

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 4: Though?

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: Probably not?

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Speaker 22: But you know, hey, Austin, it's Jim and having heard

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01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 22: just now about the addition of Joe Flacco, I'm double dipping.

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 4: This is not vanilla.

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 22: I don't want vanilla on my double dip. I want

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 22: thirty one flavors with sprinkles and nuts and syrup.

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 4: This is a pwce ulanimous maneuver.

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: I can honestly say I have never heard that word

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01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 2: puce and puce.

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01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 9: This is DJ.

1302
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 6: Just heard the news about the Bengals trading for Joe Flacco.

1303
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 4: Man if that isn't Bengal.

1304
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 6: Like you know, let's take a forty year old statue

1305
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 6: that somebody in our division is willing to give away,

1306
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 6: and that's.

1307
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 22: What we're gonna do to move forward.

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01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 23: What a freaking joke that is?

1309
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 14: The circus will.

1310
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: Continue, listen. I understand, and I'm especially bothered by the

1311
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: fact that they didn't even reach out to the Giants

1312
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 2: about Russell or Jamis. I'm bothered by that. I think

1313
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 2: you should be bothered by that. However, I will not

1314
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: criticize them for trying something because you and me and

1315
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: anybody who has two eyeballs in a brain between their

1316
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: ears knew that Jake Browning couldn't continue as the quarterback.

1317
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: Just couldn't happen. It was awful. I mean, think of

1318
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: all the terrible quarterback performances over the course of this

1319
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 2: franchise's history that you've witnessed. Jake Browning delivered one of

1320
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: those on Sunday, one of the worst ever. So you

1321
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: can't just stand pat with what you've got.

1322
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 4: You can't.

1323
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 2: It's just not going to happen now, not going for

1324
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 2: at least Russell or Jamis. I think that's a miss.

1325
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 2: I disagree with that mindset, but you at least have

1326
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: somebody and I can appreciate that. Well, see how it works.

1327
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: It's too early to tell what exactly is going to

1328
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: mean and how it's going to work.

1329
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 4: I hear you.

1330
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: It's way too early to be that upset because I

1331
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: literally cannot believe that Joe Flacco is that much worse

1332
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: than Jake Browning. Maybe he will be, and maybe I'll

1333
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: be wrong, but I can, if nothing else, appreciate the effort.

1334
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, We'll come back with football in

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: the NATI. This is the funniest season ever. I love

1336
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: the Bengals on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1337
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 5: Really, this is Football in the NATI, brought to you

1338
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 5: by Bud Light on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home

1339
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 5: of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1340
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:33,799
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals. That is, the Bengals

1341
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: earlier today acquiring in a trade with Cleveland quarterback Joe Flacco.

1342
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: According to Jay Morrison, and Jay always has these stats,

1343
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: these Nuggets, the last time the Bengals acquired a player

1344
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: via trade with a division opponent was nineteen seventy two.

1345
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: They got Hall of Fame wide receiver Charlie Joyner and

1346
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: linebacker Ron Pritchard from the Houston Oilers in exchange for

1347
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 2: running backs Paul Robinson, he was a Beast and Fred Willis.

1348
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: That's the last time there was an intra division trade, obviously,

1349
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 2: the first time the Bengals and Browns have traded with

1350
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 2: each other since the Browns returned to the NFL in

1351
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. They of course tried in twenty seventeen

1352
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 2: to trade AJ mccerron to the Browns for draft compensation,

1353
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 2: but the Browns failed to file the paperwork in time.

1354
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: That's when Hugh Jackson was the head coach of the

1355
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. I really want to hear your response to this,

1356
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: your reaction five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

1357
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: That's the phone number. Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated ways in.

1358
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: He said, every chance you have to get in the

1359
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: playoffs with someone like Joe Burrow at quarterback is gold.

1360
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 2: And so if Joe Flacco gives Cincinnati a shot to

1361
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 2: sneak into the depleted AFC bracket with Burrow back in

1362
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: the saddle, then the price here is a steal. And

1363
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 2: that's the exact point, and that goes back to what

1364
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: we said earlier in the show when talking about Dan Campbell,

1365
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: what he said about the Lions after they lost the

1366
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game. This might have been our only shot.

1367
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: You have to understand and recognize the significance of your situation,

1368
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: and when you have a great quarterback, you have to

1369
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 2: do everything in your power to make it happen. And

1370
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 2: unfortunately the story of Burrow's time in Cincinnati has been

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01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: that they are reactive instead of proactive. And so they've

1372
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 2: reacted due to the Burrow injury and the bad offensive line.

1373
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: So why they got Dalton Reisner and Lucas Patrick and

1374
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: the whole just over and over and over again. The

1375
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: Bengals have been reac active instead of proactive. But here's

1376
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: the thing, man. It's Tuesday, October seventh. The Bengals are

1377
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: two and three and they are one spot out of

1378
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: a playoff spot. They're eighth. The team above them, the

1379
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 2: Patriots are three and two and on the Bengals schedule,

1380
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 2: Denver three and two, already played them. Jacksonville is next.

1381
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: They're four and one.

1382
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 4: You know who.

1383
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: Their one loss came to the Bengals. The Chargers are

1384
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 2: three and two and have come crashing back down to earth. Pittsburgh.

1385
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: We talked yesterday, Baltimore is still the betting favorite to

1386
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: win the AFC North in Pittsburgh three and one, and

1387
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: you got Pittsburgh coming here on a short week next week,

1388
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo four and one. They showed their flaws. Number one

1389
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: seed in the AFC right now is the Indianapolis Colts.

1390
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: The AFC is wide open, dude, wide open, So why

1391
01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 2: not go for it.

1392
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 4: Now?

1393
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: Is Flacco the best move compared to Russell Wilson and

1394
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston. Probably not, but they're at least trying. And

1395
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 2: most people sat here and said, oh, the Brown family

1396
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: doesn't care, they won't try, they're happy with Jake. Blah

1397
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. Well they made a move.

1398
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 4: Is it the right move?

1399
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: We don't know yet, but they made a move. Let's

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01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: go to Chad downtown, Chad, what's up?

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01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, he hits the nail on the head here.

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01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 24: I'm happy they made a move, but I'm assuming this

1403
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 24: was probably the cheapest available that they could make, because

1404
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 24: the fact that they didn't call New York Giants I

1405
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 24: think is a joke, because let's not care.

1406
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: So that you said too.

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01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 3: Joe Flacta is gonna be running for his life.

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01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 24: He's not mobile, So I don't know unless Zach Keeler's

1409
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 24: going to change his play calling, I don't know what

1410
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 24: they thought this they're gonna achieve by this.

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01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 3: Now, Yes, they had to make.

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01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 24: A move, so give him crad for that, But again,

1413
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 24: we all know that this is probably the cheapest available

1414
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 24: out there, and what giants, well, they don't know.

1415
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 9: They don't even bother to call him.

1416
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 24: I'm happy they made a move, but that we really

1417
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 24: think you read the status is he's gonna be much

1418
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 24: more improvement than Jake Brownie. I don't think so. Jake

1419
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 24: Brownie can run. Joe Flacco cannot, so he's gonna be

1420
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 24: running for his life. So I'm assuming this is gonna

1421
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 24: work out. Egg on their face.

1422
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, Chad, and I appreciate your weighing in,

1423
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: and I thank you for the phone call. It's yeah,

1424
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: it might. It might end up with them with egg

1425
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: on their face. Or maybe you know, we've seen Zach

1426
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: Taylor piece some things together with depleted rooms and position

1427
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: groups before, and they found a way to put it together.

1428
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what they're trying to tap into a little

1429
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 2: bit here. I feel like Jake Browning's a lost cause.

1430
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: After the way he's performed and what mentally he seemed

1431
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 2: to be going through on the sideline yesterday, I feel

1432
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 2: like Jake's a lost cause. Joe Flacco, you at least

1433
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: have a chance. Is it the right move? We don't know,

1434
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 2: but it's a move. Let me take a break, let

1435
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: me come back. We've got more phone calls to get through.

1436
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: Get to five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty.

1437
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: Right here on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty.

1438
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 5: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

1439
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 5: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1440
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: So continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: Welcome back since e three to sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty,

1442
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: taking your calls immediate reaction to the Bengals trading a

1443
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: fifth round pick to the Cleveland Browns in exchange for

1444
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: a sixth round pick and quarterback Joe Flacco. Let's go

1445
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: to Phil in Oakley. What's up, Phil?

1446
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 9: So, I heard about the Joe Flaco trade and I'm

1447
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 9: like that. My hope is, what did we trade to

1448
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,520
Speaker 9: get Joe Flacca, Like, did we trade Duke Tobin? If

1449
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 9: I'm really on board, I best the case.

1450
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people would sign up

1451
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: for a Duke Tobin trade.

1452
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 9: You say that like it didn't happen.

1453
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 2: No, No, Duke is still here. Duke still works for

1454
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: the best.

1455
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 9: Flipstick on a pig, my friend, lipstick on a.

1456
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: Pig, Phil, thank you, and I listen. I think, in

1457
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,560
Speaker 2: my opinion, we got to turn the heat up on

1458
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin. We do, we should. Duke Tobin has failed

1459
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: repeatedly for the last twenty years. I think we viewed

1460
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 2: Duke as kind of insulated from everyone else because he

1461
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: doesn't have the official GM role. He doesn't talk to

1462
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: the media. I mean, it's it's I give a lot

1463
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: of credit to Kelsey Conway last year, who like followed

1464
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin to the Senior Bowl just to try to

1465
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: get a chance to talk with him and did some

1466
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: really good reporting down there like that, and and I'm

1467
01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: sure she had to jump through a ton of hoop

1468
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: just to get to Duke. Duke doesn't talk.

1469
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: Duke.

1470
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 2: It feels like is in with the ownership in that

1471
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: inner circle, and it feels like he can do no wrong. Well,

1472
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: part of life is you screw up and you're not

1473
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: good at your job and you have to answer for that.

1474
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: And it happens a lot in the NFL where people, executives,

1475
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: player personnel, people fail repeatedly, and especially when they fail

1476
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 2: repeatedly with quarterbacks good enough to get you to the

1477
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, that they lose their jobs. Now is Duke

1478
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: should he be fired? I don't know. Probably not. Let's

1479
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 2: see how he handles the rest of this window with

1480
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, or if you're like Phil, you're ready to

1481
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 2: move on from him right now. I would understand that too.

1482
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: But I do think we should be a lot more

1483
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: critical of Duke Tobin. He's a lot of times out

1484
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind. Well, it should be front

1485
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: of mine because his hand in building the roster has

1486
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: led to where they're at. Let's go to Marlin on

1487
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: the west side. What's up, Marlin?

1488
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 8: What up, Addie? How are you doing?

1489
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm all right, man, all right.

1490
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 23: So, after thinking about it for a minute, I think

1491
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 23: I'm gonna go against the grain a little bit.

1492
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 25: I think that this actually might be a good thing

1493
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:18,759
Speaker 25: for the Bengals.

1494
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 23: I think our offense is gonna instantly become more of

1495
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 23: a timing thing because we know that you know, Joe

1496
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 23: can sling it.

1497
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 14: We know we can put the ball where it.

1498
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 4: Needs to be.

1499
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 14: The big question is gonna be.

1500
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 23: How much time that he has.

1501
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 9: But let me ask you, this is this offensive line.

1502
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 8: Worse than the one in twenty twenty one when Joe.

1503
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 16: Was sacked seventy times?

1504
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

1505
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 23: Okay, So with that being said, I think as the

1506
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 23: season goes, just like in twenty twenty one, they got

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01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 23: a little better.

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01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 16: They stopped giving up so many sacks.

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01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 14: Over that twenty twenty two when we went eight games

1510
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 14: in a row without sacks.

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01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: Uh, I want to say that was twenty two. But

1512
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: still I get what you're saying.

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01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 23: I think this might be halfway a good thing. I

1514
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 23: think he's better than Jake Browning and the guy still

1515
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 23: got a can. I'm excited to see how the offense

1516
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 23: is going to be rand if Zach's going to change

1517
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 23: up some stuff, maybe a little bit quick to throws,

1518
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 23: barb receival screens, tight end strings.

1519
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm yeah, right, But well, you mentioned a

1520
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: good point, Marlin about the ability to throw the deep ball.

1521
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: Joe can throw the deep ball, and when you have

1522
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: the threat of Jamar Chase or t Higgins on the

1523
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: field with a quarterback that can actually make that throw,

1524
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: defenses have to respect that. Now, obviously you have to

1525
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: protect him long enough to be able to make that throw,

1526
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: but that at least is something that defenses have to

1527
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: keep in mind.

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01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 9: I agree.

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01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 23: I think I think we may be pleasantly surprised, but

1530
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 23: only time will.

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01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 2: Say I hope we are, Marlin, thank you for the

1532
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: phone call, and yeah again. It now comes down to

1533
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: Zach being able to build an offense around the skill

1534
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: set of Joe Flacco. And he mentioned twenty twenty one.

1535
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: One of the big parts of that run at the

1536
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty one was that they unlocked the

1537
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 2: run game. I think specifically about that game in Las

1538
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: Vegas where they played the Raiders, where they were just

1539
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: kind of stuck in the mud offensively and they couldn't

1540
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 2: really get the run game going, and they finally broke

1541
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 2: the damn in the second half in that game in

1542
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,799
Speaker 2: Las Vegas and Joe Mixon went crazy and the Bengals

1543
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: won that game, and it felt like they started to

1544
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: get some momentum can they at any point break the

1545
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 2: dam in the run game anytime soon? And if so,

1546
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco can operate the offense with a viable run game.

1547
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: Let's take another phone call. Let's go to Jim in Milford.

1548
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 2: What's up, Jim.

1549
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 14: I think I'm drunk on hopium because you know, take

1550
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 14: of Joe Flacco and all his experience and what he's

1551
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 14: going to bring to the hobble. He's gonna bring calmness,

1552
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 14: he's gonna bring stability, he's.

1553
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:02,759
Speaker 9: Going to bring.

1554
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 14: All those good things that you want in a quarterback.

1555
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 14: And think of the receivers that he has to throw to.

1556
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 14: I don't know if it's hope. I don't know if

1557
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 14: I'm drunk on it or whatever, but I think he

1558
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 14: could do some damage. I think he's got a really

1559
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 14: good chance of having this team at nine and eight

1560
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 14: rather than four and thirteen or whatever we are going

1561
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 14: to end up being.

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01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, Yeah, isn't it better to

1563
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: have hope than anything else? Like hope is at least

1564
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 2: something to get you in front of your TV or

1565
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: in front of your radio on Sunday afternoon. If you're

1566
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: a Bengals fan, Hope is worth something.

1567
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 14: You know, I don't really want to put do you know,

1568
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 14: if he's starting right away like this Sunday.

1569
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 2: Or what unclear. I think we'll hear from Zach again

1570
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: tomorrow and maybe have a better idea of them.

1571
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 14: But I mean, all his years with Baltimore, he's got

1572
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 14: to be familiar with the Bengalis language or at least

1573
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 14: what they do in certain situations. But I don't know, man,

1574
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 14: all that experience. I mean, if I was an employer

1575
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 14: and I went out and I could find an older

1576
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 14: guy with experience and a skill set, I'd be sold

1577
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 14: on him. I'd be like, yeah, let's give you a shot.

1578
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 12: Man.

1579
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 14: You know, so all these all these haters, all these

1580
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 14: non believers, you know, all these guys calling up on

1581
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 14: your radio station, unless it's Jesus himself a quarterback, they're going.

1582
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 3: To be like ooh.

1583
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 14: I mean, it's just like, come on, man.

1584
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 2: You know, Jesus had plenty of haters himself, Jim. People

1585
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: forget Jesus had haters too.

1586
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 9: This is true. And you know he was bad in

1587
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 9: the pocket too, Jim.

1588
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate it. That is that's good stuff.

1589
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: We didn't get a little Jesus humor in here. I

1590
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be calling on Jesus. Bengals need help.

1591
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 2: I need help. Everybody needs help. Let's take a break.

1592
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 2: Your phone calls continue next reacting to Joe Flacco, Joey

1593
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: fur does that work?

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Speaker 4: I don't know?

1595
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Speaker 2: Since he three sixty, do you enjoy staying active?

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Speaker 1: is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in our three Since E three to

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Speaker 2: sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty, we've had a slight change

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01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: of plans because the Bengals have had a slight change

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01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 2: of plans. I'm Austin Olmore with you for another hour.

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01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 2: About forty minutes from right now, we'll check in with

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01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: Moegger for quick hits. We'll get his reaction to the

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01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: news of the day. In case maybe you're just getting

1609
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: in your car, just turning on the show the Bengals

1610
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 2: have traded for quarterback Joe Flacco from the Cleveland Browns.

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01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Your reaction five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty

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01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 2: to that move. Let's go to Madisonville talk to Jack Jack.

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01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: What's up?

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01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 9: Hey? What's up Boston?

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01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 12: Hey?

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01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 26: Look, all I was going to say is there was

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01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 26: a couple of callers ago. The guy was talking about

1618
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 26: how Flaccos and mobile and at least Browning can run well,

1619
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 26: at least Flacco can read a damn defense.

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01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 8: I mean what we saw the last three weeks. I'm sorry,

1621
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 8: I mean Jake Browning.

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01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 26: I don't know what happened to him from two years ago,

1623
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 26: but he's not an NFL quarterback. He can't process a

1624
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 26: defense at all.

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01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts? Yeah, I'm right there with you.

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01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 2: And the way that he played on Sunday against Detroit,

1627
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 2: to me was it was the final straw. It just

1628
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: it didn't make sense. He was the basics that he

1629
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 2: wasn't able to complete in reading a safe if you're

1630
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: reading leverage or checking the ball down or you know.

1631
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: The interception to Alex Angeloni was especially egregious, and he

1632
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 2: made the wrong decision on multiple RPOs. There was just

1633
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: some sort of mental block for Jake that he couldn't

1634
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 2: get past. He was crashing out on the sidelines. I

1635
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 2: don't know that he could have recovered from that. I

1636
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 2: really don't, at least not now. Maybe down the road,

1637
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 2: but not right now.

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01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, I agree, I agree.

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01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 26: I'm not sure he's even on an NFL roster next

1640
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 26: season the way, but I know it's only three games.

1641
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 4: But man, I mean, so.

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01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 8: I'm excited about Flacco. We'll see what happened.

1643
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack, thank you for the phone call. I mean,

1644
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 2: there's no reason not to be excited because your team

1645
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 2: is trying to win. Is it gonna work?

1646
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 4: We don't know.

1647
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 2: But I do agree with our guy right there, Jack,

1648
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: because Jake Browning couldn't play the position anymore. And now

1649
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 2: you might be saying, well, Joe Flacco, that's not that

1650
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 2: big of a difference, right Maybe maybe not, But I'm

1651
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 2: telling you that was one of the worst quarter back

1652
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 2: performances I've ever seen. And it's no disrespect to Jake Browning,

1653
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: but whatever he had, he lost. And when you get

1654
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: to a point where you can't do the basics, that's

1655
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 2: an issue. When on an RPO you choose to throw

1656
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 2: it to t Higgins who's completely covered, and not hand

1657
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 2: it off to Chase Brown, who adds a hole the

1658
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 2: size of a Rumky truck in the middle of the field.

1659
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 2: Or when you do give it to Chase Brown in

1660
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 2: a stack box and don't throw it to Jamar Chase

1661
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 2: who has blockers. When you can't do the basics of

1662
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 2: an RPO, that's an issue. I have a feeling Joe

1663
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 2: Flacco could probably figure out which one to throw to there,

1664
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: and that doesn't require the offensive line protecting him for

1665
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 2: an extended amount of time. Let's go to Glendale and

1666
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: talk to Brian. What's up, Brian?

1667
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 3: Hey, Austin, how you doing, Bud?

1668
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in, Hey, I got a question.

1669
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 27: Then I'll have a comment afterwards. Budget other than Joe

1670
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 27: Flack go, do you know if we were looking at

1671
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 27: anybody else as far as quarterback, like Jameis Winston or

1672
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 27: my god, Russell Wilson.

1673
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 2: Diana Russini of The Athletic reported that the Bengals did

1674
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 2: not reach out to the Giants about Winston or Wilson.

1675
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 27: Okay, it just looks like I was just looking at

1676
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 27: all three of those contracts, and believe it or not,

1677
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 27: which you probably will believe what I tell you if

1678
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 27: you don't already know. Joe Flacco was obviously the cheaper contract, Yeah,

1679
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 27: of three of them. And it's just, you know, it

1680
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 27: just we're trying to put a professional NFL team together

1681
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 27: with kmart players, and it's just it's frustrating as a

1682
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 27: season ticket holder. One of your callers was talking about hope.

1683
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 3: And Joe Flacco.

1684
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 27: Bringing stability and calm to the huddle, and he's right,

1685
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 27: he does do that, except all that is before the

1686
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 27: snapping of the ball. And if this past week's indication,

1687
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 27: like the safety that we had, is any indication of

1688
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 27: the blocking that we're gonna give Joe Flacco, you can't

1689
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:12,839
Speaker 27: throw the ball from your back. So I am hopeful,

1690
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 27: but cautiously hopeful. Appreciate you man.

1691
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, thank you for the phone call. I appreciate it.

1692
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's fair to be cautiously hopeful now.

1693
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:29,560
Speaker 2: And they're different quarterbacks, they're different styles. Adam Schefter just

1694
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 2: while we were talking on the phone to Brian there

1695
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: reporting that the Bengals would like Joe Flacco to be

1696
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 2: ready to play Sunday at Green Bay. This is the

1697
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 2: quote from schefter. Bengals would like new QB Joe Flacco

1698
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 2: to be ready to play Sunday at Green Bay versus

1699
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 2: the Packers. The veteran Flacco is expected to be a

1700
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 2: quick learner, so maybe that's why they go Flacco. And yeah, sure,

1701
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: you can say it's cheap, and you're right. It is

1702
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 2: the cheapest of the contracts probably out there, and that's

1703
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 2: part of the Bengals identity without a doubt. However, it

1704
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 2: also is a veteran quarterback who can probably pick up

1705
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: the system quicker than most people would be able to.

1706
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: Who come in and can you put together a game

1707
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 2: plan as simple going into Green Bay as hey, throw

1708
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 2: it to number one and throw it to number five?

1709
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: And how can Zach Taylor create those plays?

1710
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1711
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 2: I mean, am I gonna say? They're fourteen and a

1712
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 2: half point favorites Green Bay? Nobody's expecting them to go

1713
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 2: in there and win the game, no matter who the

1714
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: quarterback is, unless it's Joe Burrow. But but he said,

1715
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 2: under them, it's still I think better than Jake Browning.

1716
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to Independence. Let's talk to Mike. Mike, what's up?

1717
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing by it?

1718
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm good Man.

1719
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 25: Well, it's my buddy's uh pitch his birthday today. He

1720
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 25: made a wish and it was Joe Black.

1721
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 3: Oh it came true.

1722
01:36:58,720 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 8: So there's that.

1723
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 25: I think he does bring experience, especially in the division,

1724
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 25: playing with different teams, and in division he knows the

1725
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 25: other teams.

1726
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 3: He can pick up your offense quickly.

1727
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:10,839
Speaker 28: He can make all the throws.

1728
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 9: A lot of Jake Bryans throws were under thrown a

1729
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 9: little bit.

1730
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 25: He's trying to throw it downfield, so he can make

1731
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 25: those throws to give them some time. He's not gonna

1732
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 25: make these predetermined reads before the ball snap. He's gonna

1733
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 25: go to the progressions at the time again and find out,

1734
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 25: you know, the best option, check downs, whatever may be.

1735
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a good opposite for us.

1736
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 25: So, you know, short, short time to learn here this week.

1737
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 8: Then he can do it.

1738
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 25: I think we can get a win with him back there.

1739
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 25: Che getting a little bit of time, get creative with

1740
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 25: some blocking, h some kind of teams that we can

1741
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 25: come up with. Gives the ball a little longer, little

1742
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 25: some more time and actually good I'm hopeful.

1743
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think another part of the offense that we

1744
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 2: may be forgetting about is is the idea of the

1745
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: tight ends because Noah fense has had a solid season

1746
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 2: so far. Mike Gasicki showed up a little bit for

1747
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 2: the first time, and Joe Flacco has a history of

1748
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 2: working with tight ends, and I think that's maybe a

1749
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 2: part of the offense that hasn't yet been unlocked so

1750
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 2: far this season, and I think that could be a

1751
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 2: good thing.

1752
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 25: And also, Trey Brown's assistant GM really smart guy.

1753
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 3: I like him a lot.

1754
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 25: Hopefully if things go south with Duke, we can bring

1755
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 25: up promote Trey and from with Dan probably the desk

1756
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 25: dogs for them anyway, but I we'll see what happens.

1757
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 2: That's a good idea, Mike, Mike, thank you. I appreciate it.

1758
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 2: And Trey Brown is a guy who has has been

1759
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 2: looked up, has been interviewed and potentially nearly left several

1760
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: times due to interest from other teams across the NFL,

1761
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: but has remained with the Bengals. Again, I don't see

1762
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 2: Duke leaving anytime soon, but if the Bengals could find

1763
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 2: a way to, I don't know, promote Trey Brown to

1764
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: something like that, I don't know, perhaps and I don't

1765
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: know there's a lot.

1766
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1767
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,919
Speaker 2: If you can't tell, Let's go to Richard in Liberty Township.

1768
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 2: What's up Richard?

1769
01:38:58,280 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 3: Hey, They're awesome.

1770
01:38:59,160 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 9: How are you today?

1771
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 2: I'm all right, man? What's on your mind?

1772
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 3: Hey?

1773
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 2: A couple of things?

1774
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 5: You know.

1775
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 9: The question I've really got is what happened with Jake

1776
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 9: Browning in twenty twenty three? He was he was decent

1777
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 9: and and you know, it's like, it's like, did he

1778
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 9: just quit working out? Did he forget about throwing a football?

1779
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 9: Did he not watch a.

1780
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 3: Film since then?

1781
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 6: You know?

1782
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,480
Speaker 3: And and the other thing I'm thinking.

1783
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 9: Is Joe Burrow wasn't exactly lighten it up this season

1784
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 9: before he got hurt either.

1785
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 3: So I mean, is it is it coaching?

1786
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 9: Is it the scheme?

1787
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 3: Is it?

1788
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 9: Did Callahan bring so much to the table they're missing him?

1789
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think it is?

1790
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 2: Well, I definitely don't think has anything to do with

1791
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 2: Brian Callahan, because after he left, the offense exploded last

1792
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 2: year and was fantastic without him. I do think coaching

1793
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 2: plays a role. I think for whatever reason, there's a

1794
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 2: mental block with Jake. And you know, again, as I

1795
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 2: said that, there were plays to be had on the

1796
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 2: field last week and the week before, uh for the Bengals,

1797
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 2: and Jake Browning just flat out missed him. So I

1798
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: don't know how else to say that he was not

1799
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 2: doing or seeing and playing the position the right way.

1800
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 9: Well, he said the throw to hanselone he was the worst.

1801
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 9: To me, the worst one was on the out route

1802
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 9: where he threw it inside. And I'm like, you know,

1803
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 9: a high school quarterback makes that. A kid from Sydney

1804
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 9: High School makes that?

1805
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 2: Bro Uh, I don't know. I definitely not a kid

1806
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: from pick with Sidney. We struggled to make any throw.

1807
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 2: But Richard, thank you for the phone call. Yeah, man,

1808
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 2: I hear it. That's that's what I want to know.

1809
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know, is like, what changed

1810
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 2: for Jake Browning and how do you change it back? Well,

1811
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals don't have the ability to just wait for

1812
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 2: Jake Browning to figure it out because of the nature

1813
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 2: of the rest of the lead. You look around right

1814
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 2: now and you feel like, Okay, the AFC North is

1815
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 2: still there, The AFC as a whole is still within

1816
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 2: our grasp. Joe Burrow might be able to come back,

1817
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: by the way, in case you didn't hear it an

1818
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 2: hour ago talking with Joe Daneman on this radio station.

1819
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,520
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco or excuse me, Joe Burrow in the facility

1820
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 2: this week with a walking boot on. Previously was it

1821
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 2: a scooter? Obviously a couple weeks post surgery. Now, if

1822
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: everything goes perfectly, Burrow returns at the end of this season,

1823
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 2: that's fine. There's no Burrow returning if the season's not

1824
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 2: worth playing, right, So give yourself a shot. As long

1825
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 2: as Burrow can play, and as long as you even

1826
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 2: have the option of potentially playing Joe Burrow in the playoffs,

1827
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: you have to try to go for it. And again,

1828
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 2: all I'm asking for is that the Bengals be aggressive

1829
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 2: in their pursuit of a championship. They have been oftentimes

1830
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 2: reactive and not proactive. Right now, this is a reactive move.

1831
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 2: They probably should have been proactive after the first Jake

1832
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 2: Browning stinker.

1833
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 4: But here we are.

1834
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 2: Now, how can you turn this into something? How can

1835
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 2: you fix Jake Browning and how can you get Joe

1836
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Flacco to operate the offense to the point where your

1837
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 2: defense is not starting in terrible field position every week

1838
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 2: and your offense can sustain a drive, and you can

1839
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 2: at least give yourself a chance in some of these

1840
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: games rather than being down three touchdowns in the blink

1841
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 2: of an eye. That's what it comes down to. And

1842
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 2: you still have Jamar and t as good as anybody

1843
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 2: on the outside. Defenses still have to respect that. We

1844
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 2: got another Richard. Hello, Richard, what's up? Richard? Are you there?

1845
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 22: Hello?

1846
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 8: Hi?

1847
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about? You're on the air?

1848
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 3: Well.

1849
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 19: I gotta say that if they feel like, if anyone

1850
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 19: feels like Flacco's gonna benefit from playing with the Bengals,

1851
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 19: then I mean, come on now, Jake Browning least could

1852
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 19: possibly get away from anybody. Flacco was playing behind the

1853
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 19: Browns offensive line, and I think we all agree is

1854
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 19: better than the Bengals offensive line. I think that's even

1855
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 19: with the third string left tackle and.

1856
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 29: He lost his job there. I mean, if he loses

1857
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 29: his job playing for the Brownies, I know the Bengals

1858
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 29: have a lot better weapons, but I mean he's not

1859
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 29: gonna have time to pass with the Bengals.

1860
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a fair criticism, Richard, And thank

1861
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 2: you for the phone call. Yeah, I mean, the Browns

1862
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:59,879
Speaker 2: offensive line is better than the Bengals and the Bengals

1863
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 2: offensive line stinks. Flacco not mobile, historically, not great under pressure.

1864
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 2: These are detractors. What do you put more value on

1865
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,959
Speaker 2: the ability to read a defense and throw the football

1866
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 2: or the ability to escape the defensive line and escape pressure.

1867
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 2: Kind of comes down. That's what it comes down to

1868
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 2: for the Bengals right now. Russell Wilson had some complete

1869
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 2: brain dead moments as well. Jameis Winston is the definition

1870
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 2: of peaks and valleys as a quarterback. Bengals probably look

1871
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: around at all these different options and say, okay, well,

1872
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 2: can we get a steady hand of Joe Flacco?

1873
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 4: We know what he is.

1874
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 2: Maybe we can build around a faulty offensive line and

1875
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: create opportunities to get the ball to the playmakers.

1876
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 9: Can they.

1877
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to, right Your phone calls

1878
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 2: continue five point three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. Next

1879
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1880
01:44:56,360 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: Now your Jenda one covers the Bengals, Like esp fifteen thirty.

1881
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's sports station.

1882
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: Cincy three sixty is back on ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati

1883
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Sports Station.

1884
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Sincy three sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore taking

1885
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 2: a d tour on the plan for the show today

1886
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 2: and talking Joe Flacco in the Bengals. The Bengals trading

1887
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 2: for the veteran quarterback Joe Flacco from Cleveland earlier today,

1888
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 2: and uh, here's the stat for you. EPA per dropback

1889
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 2: according to Next Gen Stats, that is expected points added

1890
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 2: per time you drop back to pass. Jake Browning is

1891
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:01,600
Speaker 2: dead last in the National Football League zero excuse me,

1892
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 2: negative zero point four to four points per dropback. So

1893
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna be going from the worst quarterback in the

1894
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 2: NFL to the second worst. Joe Flacco is negative zero

1895
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 2: point four to one.

1896
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 30: Now.

1897
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 2: I know some people roll their eyes at the advanced

1898
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 2: metrics like expected points added per drop back from next

1899
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 2: Gen Stats, but it is just another lens through which

1900
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 2: to look at the Bengals quarterback situation. Flacco not great,

1901
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: Jake Brownie not great. Bengals. Let's see what happens. Let's

1902
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 2: go to Cincinnati. Let's talk to Mike. Mike, your reaction,

1903
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 2: Hey often give me more elmore.

1904
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 16: I didn't know if you liked that nickname, so I

1905
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 16: don't know if I should keep calling you that. But

1906
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 16: I had a friend who I played high school soccer

1907
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 16: with growing up and his last names Elmore, and I'm

1908
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 16: mad at myself for never thinking of that nickname.

1909
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 2: I've been called worse, so it's all right, like it

1910
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:01,679
Speaker 2: like I'm.

1911
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 16: Asking for more. But anyhow, I like the idea of

1912
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 16: Joe coming in because, to be honest, I couldn't watch

1913
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 16: last week because the week before that was so bad

1914
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,560
Speaker 16: with Jake and it's like a train wreck. You know

1915
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 16: it's gonna happen, and I mean, I've been a lifelong fan,

1916
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 16: but I just don't want to watch that. And it's

1917
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 16: like he cares too much and everyone likes him, and

1918
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 16: I feel bad for the guy. It's just almost like

1919
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 16: he needs to go on a heater and go get

1920
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 16: drunk and just forget his name and everything and just

1921
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 16: just wake up and just realize it's not that big

1922
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 16: a deal. It's just a game. Go out there, have

1923
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 16: fun and do what you can do. But he's taking

1924
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 16: it too personally, I think. And but anyhow, at least

1925
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 16: with Flacco, it will be entertaining again for at least

1926
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,759
Speaker 16: a week and hopefully for the rest of the season.

1927
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 16: But you know, I really think they should have made

1928
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 16: that change. Like when you and Tony were saying, or

1929
01:47:56,360 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 16: maybe Tony was saying, like the very first week after

1930
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 16: the Jacksonville game, when we saw Jake have so many struggles,

1931
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 16: we should have I mean, I mean even when Joe

1932
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 16: got injured, we should have probably signed another quarterback who

1933
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 16: could do it, who's been proven, like a Flaco.

1934
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. Yeah, exactly, And thank

1935
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 2: you for the phone call. And that's the thing is like, Okay,

1936
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 2: Burrow gets hurt, Browning comes in, throws three interceptions, but

1937
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 2: they find a way to win. Let's go get a

1938
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 2: guy that's not Brett Ripping so that we're prepared if

1939
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 2: a Jake Browning stinks or b if Jake Browning gets hurt. Instead,

1940
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals are like, we got Mike right, Mike White

1941
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 2: and Sean Clifford and Brett Rippon, Jake's our guy. Well,

1942
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:44,640
Speaker 2: come to find out, Jake stinks worse than bad. But

1943
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 2: now there's nobody that you feel like you can turn

1944
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 2: to that would be any better than Jake Browning again,

1945
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 2: reactive instead of proactive. At what point will the Bengals

1946
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 2: learn their lesson? And who knows, maybe the works. Let's

1947
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 2: go to Chiviot and talk to Dennis, what's up, Dennis, I'm.

1948
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:07,440
Speaker 9: Calling about black those situations.

1949
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, hit me.

1950
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 3: I love it.

1951
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:13,759
Speaker 9: I think it's fabulous. If you go after James Winston,

1952
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 9: he throws their subce uh huh Russell Wilson, but.

1953
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 8: Joe Blaco throws them.

1954
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 9: But Joe Blacko's more experienced. Blacko's got an arm like

1955
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:24,799
Speaker 9: a rocket.

1956
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 3: And I don't believe he's never had a Jamar Chase

1957
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 3: Nattie Higgins.

1958
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 8: When he's playing.

1959
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 9: When he took the brown to the playoffs, he didn't

1960
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 9: have what we have on.

1961
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 8: The offensive weapons.

1962
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 2: Sure, that's that's fair.

1963
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 9: Maybe I have a great offensive line, but.

1964
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've gotta be buried in Browning. Yeah, that's that's

1965
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 2: how I feel as well, Dennis, And thank you. And

1966
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 2: and again, like that little EPA stat would tell you

1967
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:55,680
Speaker 2: that he's just slightly better than Jake Browning. And admittedly

1968
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 2: I haven't watched enough Joe Flacco to sit here and think, okay, uh,

1969
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 2: here all the things that you know have gone wrong,

1970
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 2: and here's how bad he's been in comparison to Jake Browning.

1971
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: I look at that game Week one against the Bengals, Okay,

1972
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 2: and Flacco threw two picks, both of which were drops

1973
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 2: by his wide receivers, tipped into the hands the Bengals defenders.

1974
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Then on a big fourth down conversion, hits Harold Fannin

1975
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 2: in the hands and it's dropped. Bengals get the ball back.

1976
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 2: Those type of plays and oh, by the way, Flacco

1977
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 2: had the Browns in position to win that game before

1978
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: Andre Schmidt missed. Okay, now, just watching that game against

1979
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 2: a poor defense like the Bengals, Okay, if he can

1980
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 2: do that against below average opponents, in which the Bengals

1981
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 2: have some of those coming up on their schedule, then

1982
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about the problem is this week

1983
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 2: it's Green Bay good defense, really good defense, not going

1984
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 2: to be easy, Pittsburgh solid defense, Jets defense not great,

1985
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 2: Bears defense not great, Baltimore's defense one of the worst

1986
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 2: in the league, Miami's defense terrible, Arizona not great. Like,

1987
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: there are opportunities to be had here. I think if

1988
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 2: you asked Joe Flacco, would you rather throw to who

1989
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: is that dude that Harold Fannin and Jerry Judy or

1990
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: would you rather throw to T Higgins and Jamar Chase.

1991
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 2: I think I know my answer there. Let's go to Alexandria.

1992
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk to Chris. What's up, Chris?

1993
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 9: Hey, Audi, thanks for taking my call.

1994
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 2: Man, thanks for calling.

1995
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 9: Hey, you're holding down the fort. Great, it's a big day.

1996
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,719
Speaker 9: What did coach Gene Hackman say in the replacements? Winners

1997
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 9: always want the ball?

1998
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 3: M I like that.

1999
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 4: I like that a lot.

2000
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 9: Love underrated baby. Hey, you know I'm your classic Bengals fan.

2001
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 9: I've sworn off of them more times than I can count.

2002
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 9: My family had tatting tickets from the first season. And

2003
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 9: after the fourteen season, we lost to Denver and then

2004
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 9: we went up to Pittsburgh, lost to them, backed into

2005
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 9: the playoffs, went up to Indianapolis, lost to them, and

2006
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 9: I was like, that's it. Can't do it again. I

2007
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 9: Am not walking back into that stadium until they win it,

2008
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 9: until they win a playoff game, because I'm not going

2009
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 9: to be more committed to winning than they are. Then

2010
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 9: the next season was the big meltdown against against the Steelers,

2011
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 9: and I was laughing because I was like, oh good,

2012
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 9: I'm not there. I don't have to watch that. But

2013
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 9: you know, I picked up some family that have become

2014
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,839
Speaker 9: Bengals fans along the way, and they bought some tickets

2015
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 9: to the game last week, and they really wanted me

2016
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:30,600
Speaker 9: to go, so I was like, all right, I'll go.

2017
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, man, I take the bad one. This

2018
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 9: is a really hard, hard team to watch. And again

2019
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 9: it was this is two days ago walking out of

2020
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 9: the stadium, like, I can't watch any more of that.

2021
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 9: It's so hard. When they're not even good, when they're

2022
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 9: not functional, it's so hard. And I'm like, I'm not

2023
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 9: going to go. I don't wait to watch the game

2024
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,719
Speaker 9: this Sunday against Green Bay, And all of a sudden,

2025
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 9: here comes Joe Flacco and I'm like, well, I mean,

2026
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 9: let's be honest. Here, he played the AFC or pretty

2027
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 9: much his whole career, right, a lot of it now, AFC,

2028
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 9: his whole career, AFC North. He knows what we're doing

2029
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 9: over here. He's familiar with the team. I didn't see

2030
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:12,719
Speaker 9: anything from Winston and Wilson that led me to believe

2031
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 9: they were any better. You've got to be thinking what

2032
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 9: you said, Like you kept talking about Fanning earlier, Like yeah.

2033
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 3: Say, he's thinking about Chase and Higgins.

2034
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 9: But you know he's got to be thinking. Man, I

2035
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 9: got no offense. I got Mike KASICKI I got guys

2036
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,600
Speaker 9: that I can get the ball to. I know what

2037
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 9: they're doing on of offense. I don't have you know,

2038
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 9: he can throw the long ball. But you saw Jake

2039
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 9: Browning this week. He was just throwing it up in

2040
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 9: the air. I mean, just saw it. I think we

2041
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 9: have we have a chance with this guy. And because

2042
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 9: he's only two years younger than Zach Taylor, maybe he'll

2043
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 9: have to mind is you know, maybe he'll bring something

2044
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 9: we haven't seen yet. So you know, I'm gonna watch

2045
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 9: because you never know. But the last thing I'll say,

2046
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 9: I and dominate the whole day. But the last thing

2047
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 9: I'll say is that, you know, I like the move.

2048
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 9: It's surprising. I think Zach Taylor is really stubborn. And

2049
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 9: I thought for sure they were just going to keep

2050
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 9: running around out. I really felt that one. And I

2051
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 9: think they're really saying here, like our scene is still alive.

2052
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 9: And then we go all the way back to that

2053
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 9: fast start and it's like, man, imagine if we didn't

2054
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 9: have those two wins on right now, Yeah, like we

2055
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 9: still have a season still here. We've got a guy

2056
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 9: now that can run the offense. I don't think we

2057
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 9: have a prayer, but I think we have way more

2058
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 9: of a prayer now than I thought six hours ago.

2059
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Chris, I agree with you, and thank you

2060
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 2: for the phone call. And I think when you look

2061
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 2: back to the offensive situations that Flacco has been in

2062
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 2: at the start of this year, not great with Cleveland

2063
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 2: and with their weapons, and I think they're slowly getting

2064
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: better and you're going to see that as those rookies

2065
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 2: continue to take shape. Last year in Indianapolis are really

2066
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 2: not a great offensive situation. Jonathan Taylor, Hurt, Michael Pittman,

2067
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce dealing withinuries as well. Like you know, that

2068
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 2: offense and that offensive line was an issue in Indianapolis

2069
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. The Browns were not great offensively either,

2070
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 2: but Flacco put up some really good numbers and they

2071
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 2: had some big time performances. So this is gonna be

2072
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 2: the best offensive situation that Flacco is is going to

2073
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 2: be in and has been in for a while, all right,

2074
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 2: maybe going back to early on with the Jets when

2075
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 2: they had those two young wide receivers and even then,

2076
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, I understand Flacco is not great with the Jets,

2077
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:38,839
Speaker 2: but still, I mean it is at least an upgrade

2078
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 2: in talent for Joe Flacco in terms of the talent

2079
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 2: around him. Again, we don't know how it translates. Let's

2080
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 2: go to Blue Ash, Let's talk to Coop. What's up, Coop?

2081
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 3: Well, we got ourselves a pure pocket passer. Man. There's

2082
01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 3: just something I trust about Flak is yep. I have

2083
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 3: no idea and actually how this is going to end up.

2084
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 3: What I do know is that apparently he has one

2085
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 3: of the highest IQ's out of any NFL player. Now,

2086
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 3: it's it's not going to be a written test on Sunday,

2087
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 3: but but that might help with the processing. I guess

2088
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 3: it gives us a shot. Maybe maybe I think it'll

2089
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 3: be marginally better and maybe we can sneak in just somehow,

2090
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 3: some way. It's a shot. It's not much of a shot,

2091
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 3: but it's a shot.

2092
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 2: It's a one chance. Is better than a zero percent chance,

2093
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 2: isn't it.

2094
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right now. What I find really interesting too,

2095
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,839
Speaker 3: is that you know, Zach had this never ending faith

2096
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 3: in Browning.

2097
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he really believes in it.

2098
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 9: I mean he was willing to go out into traffic

2099
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 9: for him to stand in the middle of the highway

2100
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 9: to defend him.

2101
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 3: That didn't take long.

2102
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 2: I think that tells you just how bad that performance

2103
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 2: was against the Detroit Lions, don't you.

2104
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he ever had faith. I think it's

2105
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 3: just all bs obviously. I mean, just be honest. We

2106
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 3: hope he does well.

2107
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 4: We're rooting for him.

2108
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 3: You did not have never ending faith for the guy.

2109
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 3: That is a joke. That's what bothers me to be

2110
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 3: honest with you.

2111
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Why does that bother you?

2112
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 3: Because I like honesty and when you come and when

2113
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 3: you tell me something, when you tell me it's raining

2114
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 3: and you're pissing all my leg I don't like that.

2115
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 2: Is it worse to.

2116
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 12: You?

2117
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, Coop? I appreciate it. I mean, I think

2118
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 2: there's two ways to look at that. Number One, Zach

2119
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 2: could actually have believed what he said. That could have

2120
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 2: been like, yes, I have unwavering faith in Jake Browning

2121
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 2: and he could have meant every word. Is that more

2122
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 2: concerning than if he was lying to you? Because I

2123
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 2: get it. If you're lying, you're trying to build the

2124
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: guy's confidence. You're trying to get him hyped up. You're

2125
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 2: trying to make him believe that, yes, he can do this,

2126
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 2: and maybe you're lying to everybody in front of you

2127
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 2: in the media room and all the fans by saying that,

2128
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 2: But you're doing it for a good reason, which is

2129
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: to try to give your quarterback some confidence. Or is

2130
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 2: it more concerning if he's saying that and he truly

2131
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 2: believes it and he knows how bad Jake Browning had been. Now,

2132
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't think Zach's going to get up in front

2133
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 2: of everybody tomorrow and say that he has unwavering faith

2134
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 2: in Joe Flacco to learn the offense. I don't think

2135
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: that's going to happen. But he's going to get up

2136
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 2: and talk about how experienced and great Joe Flacco is

2137
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 2: and how he's seen everything in this league, and he's

2138
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 2: seen the Green Bay Packers earlier this season, and they

2139
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 2: needed to do something different. And I can at least

2140
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 2: respect being able to say, Okay, Jake Browning thing didn't work,

2141
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 2: Let's move on. I just wish that they would have

2142
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 2: done it with maybe a better quarterback, and maybe would

2143
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 2: have done it a month ago, but instead here we are. Uh,

2144
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 2: let's take a break. More phone calls when we get back.

2145
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: When you suck Goodwill.

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Speaker 2: Just a few minutes away from checking in with our

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Speaker 2: guy Moegor quick hits next segment, which means we have

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes for the final phone calls of

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Speaker 2: the day, reacting to the Bengals trade acquiring Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Burlington. Let's talk to Mike. What's up?

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Speaker 4: Mike?

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Speaker 9: Hey, buddy, how are you? I appreciate you taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man.

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01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 28: I woke up this morning, no hope, heard the news.

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01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 9: I got a little hope.

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01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't gonna watch it.

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01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 9: Now I have to watch it.

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Speaker 28: They're going they're gonna suck me back in.

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Speaker 9: But I kind of feel bad for Flacco. I mean

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01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 9: they also the line's not gonna block for right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, can't you just see.

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02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:06,320
Speaker 28: Him dropping back, throwing a pass and next thing you know,

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Speaker 28: you see like the Undertaker or something coming across the

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Speaker 28: screen the throat slash and saying, you know, rest in peace, Flaco.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I got, I got a little hope.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think.

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Speaker 28: I didn't think Taylor could do it. You know, you

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Speaker 28: would think that Jake Browning has to make it. Pictures

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Speaker 28: of Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: That's why you keep.

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Speaker 9: Playing who knows, Bud, but uh, I got a little hope.

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Speaker 2: And uh who I guess yeah who indeed, Mike, thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like a car accident where you you can't

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Speaker 2: look away, you know you're not supposed to, but you

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Speaker 2: slow down and you look at it. Anyway, that might

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Speaker 2: be what Sunday in Green Bay is going to be. Like,

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Speaker 2: let's talk to Darryl in Batavia. What's up Darryl?

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Speaker 9: Hey, Audie?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 31: Yeah, Like why did we even go and bother getting

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Speaker 31: two other quarterbacks? I know one never actually played in

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Speaker 31: the league, but like it, and why didn't we try him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I thought that Mike White

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Speaker 2: should have been brought up to the active roster before

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Speaker 2: last week, and I thought they should have tried to

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Speaker 2: put him in the game. I thought he was at

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Speaker 2: least deserving of a shot because of how bad Browning

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Speaker 2: had been. But again, it goes back to the mindset

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals, like they never think about, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: what happens if Jake stinks or if Jake gets hurt.

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Speaker 2: They don't realize, Okay, well, Brett Rippon and Mike White

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Speaker 2: and Sean Clifford, those guys aren't the answer, and that's

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Speaker 2: the problem with the mindset of the team building. And

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Speaker 2: again I look at Duke Tobin on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 31: I'm I'm not from here. I'm from Georgia. So I'm

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Speaker 31: used to teams not doing well. The Braves in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the Braves won the World Series

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Speaker 2: like four years ago.

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Speaker 31: Well, but I'm talking about back in the eighties.

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Speaker 3: They all stay well.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, at least in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I got you.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, I mean we had the nineties and you know,

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Speaker 31: I just I want to see the team win and

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Speaker 31: I'm tired of seeing them do the same stupid thing

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Speaker 31: over and over.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Darrel, You're not alone. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: the call. I appreciate it. Let's wrap things up with Ross.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me Don in Ross?

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Speaker 4: Hello, Don? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Audie? A couple of quick things on Browning. We saw

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Speaker 9: it in spring or in training camp and and preseason.

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Speaker 9: He was awful. You know, all all Dez had to

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Speaker 9: do was show up and have a decent game and

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Speaker 9: he would have replaced him. So it wasn't a surprise.

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Speaker 9: With Flacco. You know, the best thing is he went

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Speaker 9: through all of training camp, he started a couple of

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Speaker 9: games in the league. He's fresh and at least active,

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Speaker 9: so so he's got that going for him, which is

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Speaker 9: kind of nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not pulling some guy off the bench who

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Speaker 2: was barely played. Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and he's not coming off the couch. Lastly, like

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Speaker 9: you said with I would have brought up White last week.

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Speaker 9: And I don't think they can stop here. They need

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Speaker 9: somebody else because because browning and ripping ain't a backup

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Speaker 9: option and Blaco's kind of glass. So I hope they're

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Speaker 9: still looking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you, don and thank you,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate the call. And that's the thing. Can

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Speaker 2: they continue to be proactive or will they be reactive?

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Speaker 2: You know, tomorrow on the show, I'm gonna play some

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Speaker 2: clips from Andrew Whitworth on Pat McAfee and talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit maybe about what Zack has to say and

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Speaker 2: some other stuff. I ultimately though, can the offensive line

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Speaker 2: play better? And can Joe Flacco play marginally better? You know,

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Speaker 2: the Minnesota game unraveled due to turnovers. It was over

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Speaker 2: in a blink of an eye. Okay, the Denver game

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02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 2: shot themselves in the foot repeatedly with penalties Detroit. The

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Speaker 2: turnovers again killed them. I don't think it's crazy to say,

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Speaker 2: like the Bengals could have been a lot more competitive

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Speaker 2: in those games if they didn't let things unravel. Can

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco at least stabilize the offense. Can he stabilize

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Speaker 2: the penalties? Can he stabilize the turnovers? And then just

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Speaker 2: see what it looks like after that, maybe then they

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Speaker 2: have a chance. We'll take a break, we'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with Moe Egger ahead of his show.

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Speaker 2: It's Quick Hits next on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: Tency three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

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Speaker 1: It's time for Sincy three sixty Quick Hits on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Looking for Mo.

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Speaker 2: My sources have located Mo at Oakley Greens in Oakley,

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Speaker 2: where he's getting set to do his show this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Some are calling him Mo Flacco. Hi, Mo, oh wow,

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Speaker 2: Mo Flacco. What do you think?

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Speaker 30: You know, Joe Flacco and I are pretty close to

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02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:39,200
Speaker 30: the same age, so you know, maybe maybe it works,

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Speaker 30: Maybe it works.

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Speaker 2: What was the first thought that entered your mind when

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Speaker 2: you saw Joe Flacco traded to the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Yes, dude, I'm a talk show host. Yes, what do

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Speaker 4: we always say? Be good or be interesting? Yes, this

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Speaker 4: is a this is gonna be It's sure interesting.

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Speaker 30: Like, honestly, god, my first thought was okay, cool, like

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Speaker 30: there's a storyline, because the storyline of Jake Browning or

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Speaker 30: Brett Rippin or some other cunny thumb quarterback wasn't going

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Speaker 30: to be interesting. This is interesting, and take that part

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Speaker 30: away from it. I'm not opposed to it. You had

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Speaker 30: to call at the top of the hour, who I

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Speaker 30: think put it? And I'm kind of paraphrasing him here,

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Speaker 30: but it was like mobility, Who cares? Can he read

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Speaker 30: a defense? Can he hit an open guy? Can he

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Speaker 30: tell you where the other team's safety is going to be?

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Speaker 30: Like Jake Browning couldn't do any of those things. This

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Speaker 30: was like remedial quarterbacking and he failed it. So Plus

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Speaker 30: I was told when Joe Burrow got hurt, MO, it's

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Speaker 30: not the offensive line, it's hero ball. Here's this is

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Speaker 30: why I struggle sometimes because I have a hard time

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Speaker 30: keeping up with the narrative because for like four days

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Speaker 30: all I heard was, yeah, you know, it's not the

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Speaker 30: offensive line, Joe Burrow. He's too much of a brat.

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Speaker 30: He's playing hero ball. He wants things his way. So wait,

2286
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:58,280
Speaker 30: wait a minute, now we're back to the offensive line

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02:05:58,360 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 30: is not very good. So I'm sure this is gonna

2288
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 30: have moments where we go, holy crap, this is awful.

2289
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 30: But it's better than what they were doing, and I'm

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Speaker 30: suddenly more interested in the game.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, how would you explain Jake Browning from twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three to the Jake Browning we've seen for the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. It's just like, not even remotely

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Speaker 2: the same player, no confidence, looked like he was having

2295
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 2: a mental breakdown on the sideline. You can't go forward

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 4: Guy, can't.

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Speaker 30: I saw from Jake Browning these three games what I

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Speaker 30: thought we were gonna see two years ago, and what

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Speaker 30: I was pleasantly surprised, because look, dude, he was undrafted,

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Speaker 30: he hadn't played before. Like I was thinking then, like

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Speaker 30: this is gonna be a mess. And then it felt

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Speaker 30: to me like the coaching staff got him ready and

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Speaker 30: Jake rose to the occasion and played fine. What has

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Speaker 30: happened this year, Like sure, Zach Taylor's taking a ton

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Speaker 30: of heat. He deserves it, fine, but just Jake Browning

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Speaker 30: is it's been horrible. You could not have maintained any

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Speaker 30: credibility or tried to maintain any credibility and move forward

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Speaker 30: with him as the starting QB. And so, yeah, man,

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Speaker 30: this is going to be tough ask for Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 30: He has played against this opponent before. He has done

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Speaker 30: a quick study before where he was signed to the

2313
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Speaker 30: Browns practice squad and then two weeks later was running

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Speaker 30: their offense in a game that counts. My expectations aren't huge,

2315
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Speaker 30: but this I think, with Jake Browning playing quarterback against

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Speaker 30: a good NFL team, you have zero chance of winning.

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Speaker 30: I certainly don't think they have a great chance of winning,

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Speaker 30: but I think they have a better chance with Joe

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Speaker 30: or a whole lot of other people than they would

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Speaker 30: with Jake Browning. To me, that's the story here, a

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Speaker 30: QB that I think had earned some faith. They showed

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Speaker 30: him that faith and he let them down.

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Speaker 2: What about the report that the Bengals did not call

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Speaker 2: the Giants about Russell Wilson or Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 30: I don't know that we're ever gonna get the answer

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Speaker 30: as to why, but it's interesting to me because I

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Speaker 30: think those would have been fine options as well. Look,

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Speaker 30: I mean Jameis Winston is buried on a depth chart,

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Speaker 30: so you know, no other NFL team right now seems

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Speaker 30: interested in making him the backup, And yeah, man, that

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02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 30: would have been interesting as well.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I don't know what the

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02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 4: answer is.

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Speaker 30: I'm intrigued because I probably would have preferred Russell Wilson. Yeah,

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Speaker 30: I might have even preferred Jameis Winston. So the fact

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Speaker 30: that they didn't call is is interesting. But you know,

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Speaker 30: whoever they acquired, you were gonna go okay, Like Russell

2338
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Speaker 30: Wilson's lost his starting gig in three cities in three years.

2339
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Speaker 30: Jameis Winston is a third stringer for a reason. Like

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Speaker 30: they could have acquired anybody and you could have cut

2341
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Speaker 30: into it. They weren't gonna go trade for Baker Mayfield.

2342
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Speaker 30: They weren't gonna trade for Josh Allen. They weren't gonna go.

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Speaker 30: You know what, we can pull off an in in

2344
02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:58,240
Speaker 30: division deal. Now, maybe Lamar Jackson's hamstring is okay, we

2345
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 30: can pry him away, like they were going to go

2346
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Speaker 30: get a compromise quarterback either because of age or lack

2347
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Speaker 30: of experience, or a skill set that doesn't match, or

2348
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Speaker 30: a guy who just simply his best years or whatever

2349
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 30: it was. They were gonna get somebody who you could

2350
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Speaker 30: instantly look at and have doubts because that's just.

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Speaker 4: Where things are.

2352
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Speaker 30: But I want somebody who can learn the offense quickly

2353
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 30: and throw the ball to Jamar Chase when he's open,

2354
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 30: and I believe Joe Flacco can do that. I trust

2355
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Speaker 30: this offensive line in front of no quarterback Joe Burrow

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Speaker 30: has some mobility. I mean, like Joe Flacco's too immobile

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Speaker 30: for this offensive line. This offensive line's a disaster. Show

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Speaker 30: me the quarterback that's not going to be in harm's way.

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Speaker 30: And if it's one of these other dudes where they're

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Speaker 30: constantly having to run and constantly having to scramble, well,

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Speaker 30: then guess what the passes are going to be incomplete anyway.

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Speaker 30: Show me somebody that when he's protected, can see number

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Speaker 30: one is open and throw it to him and tell

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Speaker 30: you where the safety's gonna be and diagnose the blitz

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Speaker 30: and tell you what the other defense is going to do,

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Speaker 30: and get himself up to speed with his team's offense

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Speaker 30: as quickly as possible, and I think they've done.

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Speaker 2: That pared Oakley Greens this afternoon, three to six. What

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Speaker 2: do you got coming up on the show?

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Speaker 4: All Joe all the time? Oh, all Joe Flacco all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 30: Let's go Finally, I've been waiting my entire life to

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Speaker 30: watch the Bengals with.

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Speaker 4: A Super Bowl winning quarterback lead. Then.

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Speaker 30: Oh, and so they're going to do that on assuming

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Speaker 30: he plays at lambeau Field, which seems to be the

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Speaker 30: safe assumption.

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Speaker 4: They're going to do that on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Do you know the only other quarterback in the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl era to start a game for both the Bengals

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Speaker 2: and the Browns in the Super Bowl era?

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Speaker 4: It's a good one, is it? Let me ask you?

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Speaker 4: This is it since the new Browns in ninety nine

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Speaker 4: or before they moved on?

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Speaker 2: Since the new Browns in ninety nine?

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Speaker 4: Since the new Browns? Josh Johnson?

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Speaker 2: No, good guess. Jeff Driscoll.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Friscoll, Yes, he started the game for the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I believe this is I want to say

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Speaker 2: this might be same season.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Adam Schefter tweeted it. Who knows if it's actually true,

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Speaker 2: but at Jeff Driscoll one of those. But you know

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Speaker 2: Jason Campbell played for both.

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Speaker 4: He did. Did Jason Campbell ever have to start here?

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Speaker 2: I think he did. I think he started a game

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Speaker 2: against the Browns once that I was at. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who knows whatever. I can't trust Chefter, He's a

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Speaker 2: Michigan man. Anyways, uh Mo, thank you. We'll be listening

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Speaker 2: this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: All right, Austin.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, there's Moe Egger three to six at Oakley Greens

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Speaker 2: in Oakley. Should be a good day, go hang out.

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Speaker 2: You know, Oakley Greens is not all outdoors. They got

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Speaker 2: a beautiful indoor set up as well. Great food and

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Speaker 2: drinks and uh great radio on the air from three

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Speaker 2: to six this afternoon as well. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for listening to today's edition of Sincy three to sixty.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the podcast posted here shortly with the

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Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app leave us a talkback for tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 2: Mo Egger is next. You've been listening to since E

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