1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: It's the light turning ten off the Holy Crown. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: We are here till twelve o'clock in the NCAA Tournament. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: First round gets underway in just over one hour. Thanks 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: to our friends at Corps Light Mountain, Cole Refreshman made 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: the chill. We still have teams to give away to 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: when the Bertram Golf Package Tennessee Golf get Away prizes 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: from Sports Investments, as well as tickets from Riverbend Music Center. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame voice of the UC Bearricats and 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: the iconic voice of the Cincinnati Bengals, Dan Horde is 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: with me. 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: What's up, pal? 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: How you doing? And I believe the runner up in 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: the Struggle for the Stake. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: First second straight for the second year in a row. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Congrats. 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to the dinner again this year. 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: We have somebody who's volunteered to pay as long as 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 4: he can join us, so no loser does not have 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 4: to pony up. 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: Wow, how about that. 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: That's that's awesome for you guys. I wasn't paying either way, 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: that's true. 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: It's good to see it going on. 24 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: I was just telling Jim Mooring that I found a 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: picture on my phone today. 26 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Of my son Sam. 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: Filling out his first ever NCAA tournament bracket here at 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: the Holy Grail when he was eight years old. 29 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: That's good fathering, isn't it. Yes, you're sitting at the bar. 30 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: Yes, thankfully the picture shows him with the water, not 31 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: an alcoholic beverage. But yeah, he got off to a 32 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: good start by filling out his bracket here. 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: And so there's my daughter Crosley. 34 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: This is not at the bar, at the table yesterday 35 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: while watching the first four game yesterday, filling out the bracket. 36 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: And I explained to her that the only way to 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: do it is to write the teams out, because she asked, 38 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: is there basically is there a computer option? And I said, yes, 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: but you got to do it the right way. You 40 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: got to fill it out by hand. 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: You're right, She's right. I'm glad she did that. House 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: her bracket. Who does she have winning it? 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: She has duke winning it. 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Okay. 45 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: She came in third in a pool that I'm in 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 2: last year. Impressive and did it by. 47 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: Doing what most of us probably should do, just picked 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: the higher number or pick the lower number. 49 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: So she went total chalk pretty much total chalk. 50 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: Well last year work because all the number ones made 51 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: it most years, Most years, that'll keep you in the hunt, right, 52 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: that will not win? 53 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: She did ask where the Bearcats are and I had 54 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: to had to explain their home. Yes, sorry, not so much. 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: What was those last two minutes of regulation like for you? 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: Last painful? 57 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 4: Really painful, frustrating and painful? Feel badly for Wes. Had 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 4: the final two minutes gone differently, he might still be 59 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 4: the head coach depending on how things would have gone 60 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: the next game against Arizona. 61 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: But really painful. 62 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: Did it feel to you that night that because of 63 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: how they lost, that sealed his feet? 64 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: Probably a factor. 65 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: But I do think what everybody said at the beginning 66 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: of the year really turned out to be true. The 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: bar was set at trying to make the NCAA tournament, 68 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: and unfortunately they didn't make it. It was kind of 69 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 4: similar to coach Saderfield. Everybody said, seven wins in a 70 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 4: bowl will allow him. 71 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: To keep his job. 72 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: That's the bar that they set, that's the bar that 73 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: he hit, and unfortunately Wes did not hit the bar 74 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 4: that I think most people. 75 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: Said, why did this team this season not played to 76 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: the level that so many of us hoped they would? 77 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 3: Eventually? They did but it was too little, too late. 78 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: You know. 79 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: I hate to be. 80 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: Like X's and O's critic of Wes because he knows 81 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 4: a lot more about basketball than I do. I do 82 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: think that early in the year he tolerated things that 83 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: came back to bite him. Bad guys are bad shooters, 84 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: taking too many bad shots, costing them games, things like that. 85 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: I think you get what you tolerate as a coach, 86 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: and I think early this season he tolerated too much. 87 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: I think he eventually fixed it. The right guys were 88 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: taking the best shots, the right guys were playing the 89 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: most minutes. I think he was trying to figure it 90 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: out when some guys were not available early in the year, 91 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: and ultimately it came around to cost him the season. 92 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: In his job, every sign points to Jared Calhoun being 93 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: the guy spent some time at UC toward the tail 94 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: end of Bob Huggins's tenure. 95 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Is he a guy that you remember it all? 96 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 3: Did you all? Absolutely? I remember him? Well. 97 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: So that was the year that we went to Velpo 98 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: with Chuck and a perch and two two thousand and three, 99 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: did the game on the phone? Yeah, yeah, so yeah, 100 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: I talked to him a lot that year. The thing 101 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: I remember about him was that he was a little 102 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: bit like Mick at that stage in that he was 103 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: really tapped into Ohio recruiting. Remember Jamar Butler, he went 104 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: to Ohio State and had a great career. He committed 105 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: to Cincinnati when he was in like ninth grade, and 106 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: eventually by the time he was a senior, he flipped 107 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: to Ohio State and went on to have a really 108 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: good career with the Buckeyes. 109 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: Jared really knew him well. 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 4: He was kind of keeping me up to date on 111 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: Ohio State swooping in. I don't know since he's going 112 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 4: to be able to hold on to him. So he 113 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: was really tapped into Ohio recruiting back then. Now, of 114 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: course that's not as important, right you know, in the 115 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: transfer portal era, you'll still try to get the best 116 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: players in the state if you can, but it's not 117 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: like being a grassroots high school guy is as valuable 118 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 4: as it used to be. But I thought he was 119 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 4: really impressive young guy at that time. If he turns 120 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: out to be the guy, and honestly, I do think 121 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: that's the way it's probably going to go, I think 122 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: it'll be a good hire. He's a really sharp guy. 123 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: He's obviously had a lot of success. He was the 124 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 4: best man at Joe Missoula's wedding before you there. Okay, 125 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 4: so Joe Missoula was his assistant at Fair State. Yes 126 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: Vision two so uh yeah. I think he's an oppressive coach. 127 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: Hopefully Utah State does well in the NCAA tournament and 128 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: that makes the sizzle grow even more. 129 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: Not that this should be the biggest factor, but I 130 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: have talked with a few former players who have given 131 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: been Jared Calhoun their seal of approval, which. 132 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: Is not insignificant. 133 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: Always good. 134 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 4: You know, Wes did a great job of kind of 135 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 4: building bridges to the alums as well as somebody that 136 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 4: played at North Carolina possibly could. So Jared has an 137 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: advantage in that he was an assistant here for one 138 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 4: year and worked for Bob Huggins for many years, so 139 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: that will help with those bridges. But good to know 140 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 4: that the guys that you've talked to are already on 141 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: board if he turns out to be the guy. 142 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Weird that I have no Big twelve teams in the 143 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: final four. 144 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: Who do you have instead of Michigan? 145 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: I have, well, Michigpig twelve like you said you don't 146 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: have Arizona, I don't Houston. 147 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: I have both, do you I do? 148 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: I want Houston. 149 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: We've talked, we talked a year ago. No, yeah, I don't. 150 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's right. 151 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: We sat here, we sat here at this time last year, 152 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: and I made a great case for why Houston had 153 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: no chance, right and then you know they were one 154 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: Emmanual sharp gaff from winning the National Championship. 155 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: So it shows you. I know. I do think. 156 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: Home court advantage essentially in the sweet sixteen and the 157 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: Elite eight will help them get to the final four 158 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: this year. But I have Arizona winning at all, Okay, 159 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: And I do admit to having the having seen them 160 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: in person bias. 161 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: This ruins my bracket every year. 162 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: I always favor the teams that I've seen in person 163 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: that were impressive to me when I saw them, I 164 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: thought Arizona looked incredible when you see lost to them 165 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: at Arizona. 166 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: So Arizona is my team. I think they're going to 167 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: win it all. 168 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: But I think that is the majority of most of 169 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: the people on ESPN dot com. 170 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: So there I am thinking, just like everybody. 171 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: I wish because I didn't like the result, but I 172 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: had it was lucky enough to go on the love 173 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: it trick. See you see play Texas Tech, and I 174 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: love Christian Anderson may love how that team played. I 175 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: wish they had JT. 176 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Topp. 177 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I wish I knew that Christian Anderson was 178 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: one hundred percent so after he's straight is growing on 179 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: the glass Courtansas City, for the way, Is that a 180 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: sentence you ever thought you'd say? Yeah, I'm also coming 181 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: down from my stance of every team in the NBA 182 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: will have this in a year or two, which I 183 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: said at Kansas City that was before you know a 184 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: great player. 185 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: Strange is growing on it. 186 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: And they changed the next day, so that might not 187 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: have been a great take. You know, they looked really 188 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: good that night, but then teams started to figure them 189 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: out and they didn't look as good. 190 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: So I don't have them going very far, all right. 191 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: Iowa State, Iowa State, I have in the Elite eight. 192 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: Iowa State has long. 193 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously they lost to Cincinnati, they lost to UCF. 194 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: They're capable of not being great, but when they've played well, 195 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 4: they played really well. They looked great against Houston in 196 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: the Big Twelve tournament. I think they're going to go 197 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: to the Elite eight. I think they're good. That gives 198 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: me three Big twelve teams in the Elite eight and 199 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: two in the Final four, and one winning the National 200 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: Chief Championships. So my seeing them in person bias is 201 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: really strong. 202 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: Cincinnati played TCU the last regular season game, and I 203 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: think that game was more about how poor the Bearcats played. 204 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: But TCU does play Ohio State the first game of 205 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: the tournament today. 206 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: What do you making The horn Frogs. 207 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: Got TCU winning that game, but that's it. They were 208 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: better than I thought. Again when I saw them in person, 209 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: I thought going into that game that UC was going 210 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: to win, and then after seeing tc I'm like, Okay, 211 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: I get it now. Jamie Dixon's really good. It's a 212 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: really good offensive team. The ball pops, They've got good 213 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: inside outside balance. 214 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: So I think TCU wins today. 215 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: No Richie Saunders and BYU against Texas. 216 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: Texas wins for that reason, right. You know? 217 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: BYU won two beat two good teams after Richie Saunders 218 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: was hurt, but lost all of their other games, obviously 219 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: lost by twenty two at UC. I think if Ritchie 220 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: Saunders were still on that team, they could get to 221 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen. 222 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: I don't think they win a game without them. 223 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: We talk about being chalky and the sort of separation 224 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 2: of the elite teams, with all the talent being distributed 225 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: to teams like Michigan, Arizona, etc. It makes it more 226 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: and more difficult to forecast upsets. That's the prevailing sentiment. 227 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: Is your bracket reflective of that? I've got a few upsets. 228 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: So I heard Skinny on as I was driving over. 229 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: I have Akron getting to the Sweet sixteen. So that's 230 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: not a yeah, maybe they can do it. I think 231 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: they are going to do it. I think they catch 232 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: two teams that have very significant injuries Texas Tech obviously 233 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: with topping, and then Alabama after that. 234 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: I think at less than one hundred percent, they can 235 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: beat each of those teams. So Akron is my biggest 236 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: upset pick getting to the Sweet sixteen. 237 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: What a season. 238 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: They lose one game in the league, they win the 239 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: MAC Tournament, nobody's talking about them because of my en. 240 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: And the one game they lost was by two at Miami. 241 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: Is that correct? Yeah? 242 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 4: So you could make the case that they were the 243 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: best team in the MAC as great as Miami is. 244 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: Would you give Miami a shot against Tennessee. 245 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think they'll win, but I give them 246 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: a shot because of their three point shooting and the 247 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: fact that they did it last night. Now was a 248 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 4: de facto home game, which helps, but they showed that 249 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: with the lights the brightest, that a bunch of guys 250 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 4: could hit threes with the pressure on. Now, the defense 251 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: will be a little bit tighter against Tennessee with that 252 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: athleticism in that length. But anytime you've got that many 253 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: guys that can make threes, you've got a shot. So 254 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: I think they'll cover, and I think it'll be a game, 255 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: But ultimately I think Tennessee posts it out. 256 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Having been in. 257 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: This market for thirty years, did you ever think you 258 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: would be not covering I guess, but around for a 259 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Miami team that wins every game in the regular season, 260 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: it becomes the Darling and college basketball. 261 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: That's what it was described as last night. 262 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was accurate. No, No, I did not 263 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: see that coming. Yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know, I 264 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: was here for the Wally's Derby X Sweet sixteen runs, 265 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: so that seemed like a once in a lifetime type 266 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: of thing, and radio it's not. 267 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: You know, maybe they do it again, But kudos to 268 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: them phenomenal season. 269 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: I watched a bunch of their games, and I feel 270 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: like I watched every game where it looked like they 271 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: were dead. Yeah, and they managed to win, which happened 272 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: like six or seven times. So what a phenomenal accomplishment. 273 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I I mean last night. 274 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm not a Miami fan necessarily, but in that environment, 275 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: the way they played felt like they were in control 276 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: the entire way. And you know, it didn't work out 277 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: for Travis Steel Xavier, but it's fun to watch folks 278 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: who care about XU basketball say all the nice things 279 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: they're saying about Travis because I think, you know, I 280 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: talked about Wes Miller a lot. There was a blueprint 281 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 2: for Wes. Yeah, you know where hold your head up high, 282 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 2: handle the exit. Well, go find a place that'll take it, 283 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: give you a shot, which I'm sure he'll get and 284 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: take it and run. And I'm hoping for Wes. You've 285 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: gotten to know very well over the last five years 286 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 2: that there's a similar sort of outcome as we've seen 287 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: with Travis Steele in Oxford. 288 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's very possible because I think 289 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: their ten years were very similar. You know, Travis Steel 290 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: didn't make an NCAA tournament, he was close a couple 291 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: of times. Wes didn't make an NCAA tournament. He was 292 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: fairly close a couple of times. I think he's a 293 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: good coach. I think if Jalen Haynes weren't hurt this year, 294 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: that in and of itself might have been enough to 295 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: get him to the NCAA tournament. If Gisel James didn't 296 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: miss the first ten games they lost four, that might 297 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 4: have been enough to get him to the NCAA tournament. 298 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 4: So I think, like Travis Steele, maybe the best is 299 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 4: yes yet to come. 300 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Do you think it's. 301 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: It's possible to win in year one where you're not 302 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: sitting here with me, in a year you're calling an 303 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: NCAA tournament game in this league? Can you get things 304 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: to say turned around? Because it wasn't like they were 305 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: that far away, But can you win instantly? You see 306 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: in this environment? 307 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean I think the other Miami the Hurricanes 308 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: have shown that it's possible. Horrific last year NCAA Tournament. 309 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: This year. 310 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: Now, the ACC is not the Big twelve, but it's 311 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: a power conference. So absolutely, you know at least as 312 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: of now, Corey Evans is still the GM. 313 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: I think he's going to stay. 314 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: He had a multi year contract, so you know, he 315 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: is already working on potential portal guys and things like that. 316 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: Now we'll see if the new head coach wants to 317 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 4: maintain that relationship. 318 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: He might have his own guy. Yeah, who knows, but. 319 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very possible if you're willing to spend, and 320 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: they spent this year, and it is absolutely possible. 321 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: Does Jared Calhoun or whoever the coaches have to walk 322 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: into a situation where the roster is empty, do you 323 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: think some of these guys would be at least open 324 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: to staying. 325 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: Maybe because they have a little bit of time to 326 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: work on them. So the portal I think reopens April ninth, 327 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: something like. 328 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, So whoever the. 329 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: Next head coach is is going to have roughly a 330 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: week to work on it. So you're talking about how 331 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: much money you're able to offer them. Hopefully they had 332 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: good experiences for the guys that you would want to keep. 333 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it's possible. Now Mustafa chom by 334 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: the way he played over the final four weeks of 335 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: the season, is going to get a. 336 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: Ton of money. 337 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure there are a lot of schools out there 338 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: right now that are telling his representation. You know, maybe 339 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: Cincinnati can pay you this amount, but we will so. 340 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: We'll see, and then we have to play him. Yeah right, 341 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: maybe yeah, stays in the Big twelve. It's possible. 342 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean, would it shock you if he was at 343 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: BYU or not at all? 344 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: No, that'd be miserable. 345 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: But hopefully he had a great experience and UC is 346 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: able to at least come close to whatever another school 347 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: would be willing to toward. 348 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: The end of the season. He was the guy that 349 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: I read about last summer. 350 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, at least offensively. Sure, offensively he was rebounding why 351 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: he was rebounding wise he was Defensively he wasn't didn't 352 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: block as many shots, wasn't as big a factor on 353 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: defense as I thought he could have been or should 354 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: have been. 355 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: That's the next step. 356 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: But you've got a guy that's seven to two that 357 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: averaged nearly twenty points a game for the final eight 358 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: or nine games of the year. 359 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: That'll work. 360 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: You've give Hi mc cronin a chance. I want to. 361 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: I've I've been two games, actually, calm one filling in 362 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: for you where Mick Cronin has coached against Dan Hurley. Now, 363 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: Mick's got a healthier team that he's had at any 364 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: point this season. Donovan Den's playing really well. I root 365 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: for Mick too. Could Nick pull off an upset? He's 366 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: got to get past UCF, which you've seen up close. 367 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't like that team at all either, do Can 368 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: he beat Dan Hurley and Yukon? 369 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: No? 370 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 371 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: No? Uh? 372 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: The game press conference better with Mick losing or Dan losing. 373 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: Huh uh, Well, depending on the circumstances of the game 374 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: and the officiated. Yeah, probably more entertaining with Mick right 375 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: during the game, more fun to watch Dan, yeah, bust, Yeah, 376 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: but postgame probably Mick. 377 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 378 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: Watching when Mick was still at UCE coach against Dan, well, 379 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: that was rough for those officials. 380 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: That's hard. 381 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's when Yukon wasn't very good, right, Yeah, 382 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: you know now that they're good, he's toned. 383 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: It down a tiny bit. Yeah. There's still about four 384 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: times a year where he's in totally. 385 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: He out of the game against Marquette. 386 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that was one of the four. 387 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it used to be just about every game 388 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: for all forty minutes It's not quite that anymore, not quite. 389 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: Can you make me feel better about watching Barrett Carter 390 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: and Demetrius Night next year? 391 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 4: Still hopeful that they'll sign somebody. I know the guys 392 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 4: that most of us wanted are gone. I'm okay with 393 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner. Yes, I'm bine okay with Matt Mulano. If 394 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: the medical you know, check up says that he's got 395 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: a chance to play, you know, at least twelve games. 396 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: He played twelve last year. I'd be fine with either 397 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 4: of those guys. And I'd really be fine with Bobby Wagner. 398 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty seven years old, but still has gas in 399 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: the tank. 400 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: I mean his. 401 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: Stats were great last year. He was PFF's number ten 402 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 4: line back. Fine, he had four and a half sacks. 403 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 4: I talked to Josh Johnson, Bengals quarterback Josh Johnson recently 404 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: about Bobby Wagner. He's said great things about Bobby Wagner. 405 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: So it sounds like Bobby wants to play. Doesn't sound 406 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 4: like it's going to be Washington. So yeah, I'd be 407 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: fine to sign up Bobby Wagner for one. 408 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: Now stoked are you about Brian Cook? 409 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: He was the number one guy wanted them to sign, 410 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: so extremely stoked. Yeah, I think he's exactly what this 411 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: defense needed. Somebody that puts the fear of God into 412 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: wide receivers and tight ends running across the middle of 413 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: the field that has not existed for a while. I 414 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 4: could tackle, not only make a tackle, but punish a 415 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 4: guy right, you know, totally clean, totally illegal, but really 416 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 4: punish a guy, take him to the ground so that 417 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: he's slow to get up. Brian Cooks, that guy can't 418 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: wait tremendous signing. You know, he's the highest paid free 419 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 4: agent safety for a reason. He's a great player. I 420 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: think he's going to be perfect for this defense. And 421 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: if Caleb Downs is there at number ten, has to 422 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: still take him. 423 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: I still dream of watching those two guys in the 424 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: secondary together. 425 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Caleb Downs could be your slot corner 426 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: for a year. And then you know, you don't have 427 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 4: to re sign Jordan Battle unless it goes so well 428 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 4: with the three of them playing that you would want to, right. 429 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: All right, let me know where the steak dinner is. 430 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 2: Well do if you guys aren't going to pay for it, 431 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: like I think should be a like something extra for 432 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: the guy who wins. 433 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: It pay for the booze. 434 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's no no, now. 435 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: I remember in my mind that might be a higher task. 436 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Oh, be careful what you say. I can't thank you. 437 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: Time and again. 438 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: It's your booze and not tnl's red wine. So it 439 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: probably works out, okay. 440 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Probably for the better. Thank you, as always. 441 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: For doing it my pleasure. Thanks for having me on. 442 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: You're the best. 443 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: Likewise, so great, Dan Horde. Here at the Holy Grail. 444 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: We are here till twelve noon. It's the Corus light 445 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: turny tip off twenty minutes after eleven o'clock since E 446 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: three p sixty coming up at the top of the 447 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: hour on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports station