1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike sincey three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati, 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: sponsored in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: for a three way or cheese cony today. Feeling good, 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: it's Skyline Time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Thursday, and welcome in to Cincy three 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: to sixty thanks to Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling good 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: and hungry, it's always Skyline time. But I didn't get 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: to ask you, Austin, did you finish? Did you complete 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: the babble headset? 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: No? 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: You did not. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: After our attempt at one time, that was this futile 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: I gave up. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy how easy it was to get to Borough. 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: I'm thankful that Burrow was the first one. Yeah, but 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: I do have that one. 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: Okay. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: I was going to try to get Higgins, but you know, 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 3: just didn't happen. Didn't happen all right? 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: Well, thanks to our friends at Skyline Chili. 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: I can't wait for next year. 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening in, and we got a heck 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: of a Thursday show ahead. Phone lines will be open 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: five one three seven, fifteen thirty. 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: I have an idea for Skyline Okay special Edition Joe 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: Flacco bobblehead Man, how quick can you get a printed? 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: Except instead of it's you know him right there, it's 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: just him. It's him sitting at the bar by himself, 29 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: eating a three way, eating a three way. Yep, boom, 30 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: While immediately resonnated with so many people by just a 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: press conference yesterday. I don't know if I've ever seen 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: someone stardom shoot up so much higher in the span 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: of a day. 35 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: It's ours. Really, It's been cool to hear Ravens fans 36 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, like we love this guy yep, and 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 3: just to he's just so genuine, so refreshing. It's been awesome. 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. It just to me, it just seems like a 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: dude who just appreciates an opportunity that he has, that 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: he's still getting to do what he loves. And uh again, 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: just people Joe cool. I think so much about what 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: makes him Joe cool is that he's relatable to a 43 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: lot of people, and uh man, yesterday was awesome. We'll 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: play some Joe Flacco audio from yesterday today. We also 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: have some Wes Miller audio about five minutes of what 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Wes Miller had to say a big twelve media day. 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: We have John Shearon aight is E Sports is going 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: to join us at one o'clock this afternoon, and uh 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: so much more. We're gonna read and react today to 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: everything Bengals. What else is happening in the sports world? 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: NBA night too, last night Austin, NBA Night. 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Two, Here come the Chicago bull Yeah. 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: I mean that's out of everything that happened last night, 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: that's easily the lead Bulls. 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: We'll talk about Luke and Cooper, flag wimb and all 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: these great young players. They can't hold a candle to 57 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: Matas Boozalis. How about that of the Chicago Bulls. Shout 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: out Matas. Yeah, shout out what he was able to 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: put together. Shout out to our guy Liam as well, 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: who apparently as a Pistons fan. 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: Good. 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh and one pal good. 63 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Shout out to Liam man. 64 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: There is a lot going on in the NBA. 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 67 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: Victor Webbin Yama last night Austin forty points, fifteen rebounds, 68 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: no turnovers, three blocks. I think people forgot because he 69 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: was out last year. How dominant that dude is. I 70 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: also just want to say I appreciate that. I haven't 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: heard a lot of complaining from people that we've been 72 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: talking about the NBA. Yeah, how about that? 73 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: And maybe that's just because they're appreciative because of what 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: happened a couple of weeks ago, so that they don't 75 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: want to complain. But I've also, like I've seen some 76 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: people in our mentions about the NBA. Yeah, we like 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: the NBA, absolutely, we like talking about the NBA. Uh 78 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: and we hope that maybe you'll give it a chance too. 79 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: Had put a couple wagers on your favorite team. 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Had some debuts last night? Jock what was it? Jocks 81 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: of the night? Jos had some debuts last night. I 82 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: work on getting a sounder. My jock of the night 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: did not do well. Cooper flag Austin at one point 84 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: was one for nine in the game. He finished four 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: of thirteen ten points. He rocked up some rebounds, but 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: he even said about his debut not great. Vj Edgecomb 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: though he was great for the Philadelphia seventy six ers 88 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: thirty four in his debut coming off being Big twelve 89 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: Player of the Year at Baylor. Third most points by 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 2: an NBA player in his first game and the most 91 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: points in a first quarter by an NBA rookie, did 92 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: VJ Edgecomb? 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: I heard a crazy stat this morning about Brandon Jennings. 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: Do you remember him? 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: I do? 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: In his fifth career NBA game, he had fifty five points. 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: He never scored more than forty the rest of his career. 98 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: So DJ Edgecomb's gotta keep it going pal. 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: And then news broke today. 100 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: Oh boy. 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: Other NBA news, Terry Rogier, Scary Terry as he's known, 102 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: has been arrested in gambling investigations. Also, Portland Trailblazer head 103 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: coach and former Detroit Piston Chauncey Billups also arrested related 104 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: to illegal sports betting for Terry Rozier and rigged poker 105 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: games backed by the mafia for Chauncey Billups. 106 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: There's a lot going on with this man. There's like 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: special X ray poker tables and cheating technology that scanned cards, 108 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: and some guy at a separate location called the quarterback 109 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: and insider information and overlap. And some people are speculating 110 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: that Gilbert Arenas, who has busted for poker games not 111 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: that long ago, has apparently spilled the beans on everybody 112 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: to crack this case wide open. Oh I don't know 113 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: if that's true or not, but there are a lot 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: of moving parts right now. You when it comes to 115 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: the NBA, which continues to have a gambling problem, why 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: why is that? 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: Why in today's sports, knowing what we've seen, is it? 118 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: Is it just a sickness that people can't stay away 119 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: from because you know that they're watching for it now 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: because you've seen others arrested for it. 121 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: Sure, it's definitely a sickness, like gambling is a legitimate addiction, 122 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: and it's a major issue. But I also think that 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: the league itself, the NBA, is probably not doing a 124 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: good enough job of helping out their players or their 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: teams or taking this as seriously as they need to 126 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: take it. Because the NFL, Yeah, there's been issues with 127 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: guys gambling, but it's never been them gambling on the NFL. 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: It's been them gambling on other stuff, you know, on 129 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: company property and stuff like that. Major League Baseball we 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: saw it obviously many years ago with Pete Rose. We've 131 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: seen it a little bit recently with those Guardians pitchers. 132 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: But I mean, you don't see this with the top 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 3: league in the world, in the NFL. 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: Nope. Groundbreaking stuff in Major League Baseball as well Austin. 135 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: We've got new managers across baseball. On one end, the 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: Angels have a new manager. It's Kurt Suzuki, longtime Red's Killer, Curtins, 137 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: longtime Red's killer, not longtime contract with the Angels. He's 138 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: given a one year deal. First time manager has been 139 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: given a one year deal by the Angels. That is 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: their Austin sixth manager in eight seasons. 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Really weird. The Angels are just a weird organization. They 142 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: deserve credit because they were like the only organization who 143 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: was willing to let Shoheo Tani try to do both 144 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: when they came up, and has turned him into what 145 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: he is. But other than that, I mean, they're just 146 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: dealing with stuff constantly. Like the Tyler Skaggs case. He 147 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: was killed due to the drug over and was apparently 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: being facilitated by a team trainer of the Angels. That 149 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: case is still ongoing. Yeah, Mike Trout just testified in 150 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: that case like two days ago. Like that organization's just 151 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: in shamble. 152 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: Suzuki said, I've been playing on one year deals my 153 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 2: whole career. 154 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: It feels like so there's a series he was playing 155 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: with the Nationals. Honestly, it's early on in the season. 156 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: A couple of years ago might have been on the 157 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: Reds opened up with them. I can't remember. But Kurt Suzuki, 158 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: I feel like, was seven for twelve in that series 159 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: with like four homers. Dude, own the Reds. Yeah. 160 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: And then Austin, you get this Tennessee volunteer coach Tony Vttello, 161 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: how about this? Wins the men's College World Series in 162 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, now makes the leap and as the 163 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: manager of the San Francisco Giants. It's the first time 164 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: a big league team has hired a manager directly from 165 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: a college program without any experience as a professional coach. 166 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: I Austin, commend the Giants for this. Sure, I've talked 167 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: about this before. There are too many times in sports 168 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: it just feels like guys are just recycled. Guy gets 169 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: let go, He ends up somewhere else, even though his 170 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: track record but the previous spot wasn't great, but he's 171 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: been around it for so long. Go get somebody new, 172 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: Go get somebody fresh. I like this approach from the Giants. 173 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: I commend them. What do you think about the Pro 174 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: Bowl games moving to Super Bowl Week. 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: Good makes sense, supposed to be that way. Yeah, all 176 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: the players generally end up traveling to the super Bowl 177 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: city anyways for their promotions and radio row and all that. 178 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: So if you can basically get it there and kill 179 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: two birds with one stone and make that a big 180 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: part of Super Bowl Week, I think that's a good thing. 181 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: I think the NFL do a good job marketing it. 182 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: My question is, now, what do you do in that 183 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: extra week leading up to the Super Bowl. How does 184 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: the NFL turn that weekend into a profitable weekend? Because 185 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: I can't imagine them just giving something up. They don't 186 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: want to ever give up weekends. They don't care about 187 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: college football. They're not going to give up a week 188 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: indo college football. Hell, they played some of their most 189 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: important games at the end of the year on Saturdays. 190 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: They don't care. So to me, I'm curious to see 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 3: how does the NFL now turn this into a profitable 192 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: week will Because maybe it was that the Pro Bowl 193 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: just nobody was caring and nobody was watching, and if 194 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: it's super Bowl Week, you'll get more eyes on that 195 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: and maybe it increases the significance of it. But how 196 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: do you turn it into something else I think is interesting. 197 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Leonel Messi has been extended Withinner Miami. 198 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: There was a run for f C Cincinnati. 199 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: It was a conversation that, you know, maybe when the 200 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: contract was up, maybe he'd go elsewhere, maybe he'd be done. 201 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: He has now signed a contract extension to stay at 202 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: Inner Miami through the end of the twenty twenty eight 203 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: MLS season. So more Messy in the MLS, yeah, and 204 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: more hell is real coming up on Monday for FC Cincinnati. 205 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, it is. 206 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: Going to be a phenomenal sports weekend here locally. Bearcats 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: are home, Bangles are home. FC Cincinnati is home. Much 208 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: in between all that, Nate Bargatzi's in town. Oh, your guy, 209 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: Nate's in town. 210 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: Are you going to go see him? 211 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: He's in town Saturday and Sunday. We're going to go 212 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: Sunday night to see him. 213 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: Wow. 214 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: So we were looking forward to that. Yeah, I think 215 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: tickets are still available, not with you though, Yeah, yeah, 216 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: you know the way the tickets are set up, right, 217 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: was giving away this week on his shows, giving away 218 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: Bargatzi tickets. So, uh, that is that's cool as well. 219 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: Uh. 220 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: Today I want to talk a little bit about what 221 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: Luayna Rumo's got working with the Indianapolis Colts and look 222 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: at some other defensive moves that were made this offseason 223 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals. Speaking of the Bengals, will take 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: an update to look at playoff odds and where those 225 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: chances sit. As we do on Thursdays, we will. 226 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: Read and react. That's right, read and react. Yeah, what 227 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: are we are? 228 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: We are we reading reacting to NFL or we've been 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: reacting to college football. 230 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: We're reading and reacting to Bengals Jets there. It is 231 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 3: as we always do, John Shearon at one o'clock. Whoever 232 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: they play, Miller will play some of his audio. We 233 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: have the Joe Flacco audio and we will we'll read 234 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: and react to that as well. Thursday Night Football Tonight, 235 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football kind of snuck up on me. 236 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: Who do you like? 237 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: Vikings Chargers. I'm gonna go Chargers based just off the uniforms. 238 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: M they're going with their old school. It's like a 239 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: mix between old and new. It's their super Chargers alternates. 240 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: Which is that dark blue. 241 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: It's not the it's not the the yellow that they 242 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: wore the other day. 243 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: It's not those Savannah banana jerseys that they wore. It's 244 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: like the dark blue with more of a golden yellow 245 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: than their typical yellow. Okay, kind of think early two 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: thousands Ladanian Tomlinson, Philip Rivers type of Chargers uniforms. That's 247 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: what they're gonna be wearing. I'm excited about those. I 248 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: think that looks cool. They got the alternate helmets and everything. 249 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: You know. 250 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: It actually makes me think I was, as you know, Tony, 251 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: I got this new iPad and what I do is 252 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: I just write down notes constantly, and I wrote down 253 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: the other we just a random thought and it was 254 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: a question and I'm gonna ask that question to you now, Okay, 255 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: would Ladanian Tomlinson be as dominant today as he was 256 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: in the two thousands? Because Bjeon Robinson keeps getting compared 257 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: to Ladanian Tomlinson, and I think that's a good comparison. 258 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: Would he be as dominant now lt as he was 259 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: in the two thousands? 260 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: I still think so. I mean, I think his game 261 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: transcends through time. I mean, I did he was so 262 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: good with the ball. In today's game, I think the 263 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: most effective guys are the one that can get the 264 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: ball and get it in space and I think that's 265 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: the job of coordinators in today's game. It's weird with 266 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: Bjeon Austin because I wondered this all the time. There 267 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: are games that feels like he's targeted, and then there 268 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: are games that feels like he's an afterthought. Ladanian Tom 269 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: was always targeted, right, he was always the show. Yeah, 270 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: I think in the past game, I think his game 271 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: would translate well. 272 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: What I thought was offensive line play. I don't know 273 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: that it's ever been worse than it is right now 274 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Like there is very like the depth 275 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: of great linemen in the NFL, very very few. And 276 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: I feel like back then, running the football and that 277 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: being a run first team, that was what the NFL 278 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: was built on at the time. Sure the college game 279 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: was built on that, and I think that's why it 280 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: translated to the NFL so much, specifically with the development 281 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: of offensive linemen. But then I was thinking about it. 282 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: How many Charger offensive linemen from twenty years ago could 283 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: I name? 284 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: Right? 285 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: Not one, right? I still haven't thought of one. And 286 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: I wrote this down five days ago. I can't think 287 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: of a single one, which maybe just says how good 288 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: Ladanian Thomas it was. But It is interesting because I 289 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: don't think there's this is a tangent. I'm sorry, I've 290 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: been thinking about this for days. Bijon is probably the 291 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: closest player I've seen to LT with that movement ability, 292 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: pass game ability, and like the game that they played 293 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: on Sunday or Monday whatever, the Sunday night game against 294 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: the Niners, I mean, their whole game plan was just 295 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: throw it to Bijon in the flat and let him 296 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: make a dude miss yep like that. If I played 297 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: the Bengals and I was the Falcons, that would be 298 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: the game plan the entire time. Yes, And that was 299 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: kind of what the Steelers did to the Bengals last Thursday. 300 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: And I wonder, I mean, we'll see what happens with 301 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, We'll see what happens with Breece Hall. I 302 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: wonder if it'll be a similar game plan from the 303 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: Jets on Sunday. 304 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: That See, that's what makes it interesting to me. With 305 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: when you talk about Tyrod Taylor or Justin Fields. Tyrod's 306 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: been around long enough. He's gonna take the checkdowns every 307 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: time they're there, almost annoyingly. Like if Tyrod Taylor plays, 308 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: I could see that being a game where like Brice 309 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: Hall has ten catches and they're all just checkdowns over 310 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: where he's sitting over the ball, defense drops back, Brice 311 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: Hall leaks out, they drop it down to him, and 312 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: he just gets easy yards. You're in that bend, but 313 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: don't break mold. I just that's my concern with Tyrod, 314 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: Whereas I feel like Justin Fields is still going to 315 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: hold onto the ball and try to make those bigger plays. 316 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: Tyrod's been around it long enough. He's going to get 317 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: the ball out of his hands, especially if he's a 318 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: little bit compromised. I would worry about Breese Hall in 319 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: the passing game. Let's take our first break. Our phone 320 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: lines are open five to one, three, seven, four, nine, 321 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. 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Playoff odds available right 332 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: now for the NA Any guess on your behalf where 333 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: the Bengals playoff odds sit as we sit today, I. 334 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: Wouldn't even know where to begin. Probably not very good. 335 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: Nineteen percent. Yeah, for what it's worth, twenty nine percent 336 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: is where the Baltimore Ravens sit. 337 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson returned to practice yesterday. 338 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: Why and I'll pull up the schedule. 339 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: It's pretty easy. 340 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: I know it's easy. What about what the Ravens have 341 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: done through this point. It's not like Lamar has missed 342 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: all of the year. What about what the Ravens have 343 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: done on defense? Has people still believing that they can 344 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: turn this thing around? 345 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 3: I think the big thing is the schedule and the 346 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 3: offenses that they'll have to face. Miami is a complete 347 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: train wreck. Now, Chicago's obviously good offensively in our getting 348 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: better in the right direction. But Miami's a train wreck. 349 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: Minnesota's a train wreck, with or without Carson Wentz, Cleveland's 350 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: a training wreck. The Jets are a train wreck. The 351 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: Bengals okay, solid, the Steelers okay but not great, and 352 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: Green Bay and New England, Like, there's a couple of 353 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: difficult offenses that they have to face, and I feel 354 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 3: like the sports books are betting on the idea or 355 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: most people however you want to describe it, or whatever 356 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: metric you want to use, are thinking, Okay, the defense 357 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: will get better over time, and with Lamar back, that 358 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 3: makes their defense better, and him in and of himself 359 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: as a multiple time MVP makes the the every game 360 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: viable for them. 361 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'm not buying in at this point 362 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: to the Ravens. Now, for what it's worth, the teams 363 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: currently listed the AFC Austin with higher playoff chances than 364 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: the Bengals the Ravens, Texans, Jaguars, Chargers, Steelers, Broncos, Bills, Patriots, Chiefs, Colts, 365 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: any of those teams that you view the Bengals better 366 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 2: than right now? 367 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: No, I mean we had this conversation the other day. No, 368 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: even the Texans maybe better than the Texans, but their 369 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: defense is good and and I don't think Houston's going 370 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: to get into the playoffs just because of the way 371 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: that their division works out. But their defense is still 372 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, one of the best front sevens in football. 373 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: Jacksonville. 374 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: I'm still I'm not ready to give up on I've 375 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: been high on them, high a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, 376 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: I've been high on them. I'm not going to give 377 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: up on them yet. A young coach, young quarterback, a 378 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 3: lot of changes there. Still still not ready to give 379 00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: up on them. 380 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Team tams that have a greater than fifty percent chance 381 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs Colts, Chiefs, Patriots, Bills, Broncos, Steelers, Chargers, Jaguars. 382 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: Which of those is the most fraudulent? Steelers Probably? I 383 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: think so too. 384 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: Seventy two per chance right now for the Pittsburgh Steelers 385 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. But they're also a team that 386 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: if their front seven plays well and Aaron Rodgers gets 387 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: on a heater, they could go on a run like Rogers. 388 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: Still has that ability, I believe, and if they continue 389 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: to get Pat Fryermouth involved, and if they find any 390 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: semblance of a run game like that can be a 391 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: good team. 392 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: Offensively. Yeah, defensively, I can't believe how bad they are. 393 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: They have question marks and Tarah Austin has never been 394 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: a good defensive coordinator. It's amazing he still has a job. 395 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 3: But you know, if TJ. Watt and Alex high Smith 396 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: and Nick Herbig and Jack Sawyer and Cam Hayward, I mean, 397 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: that group right there, in and of itself should make 398 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: you a better football team. 399 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 400 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: Speaking of Deficus smoked on Sunday night. Though it'd be nice, 401 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't it. Oh, Jordan Love goes nuclear. Speaking of defenses, 402 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: the Bengals in the off season, Austin move on from 403 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: Louena Roumo. I don't know if you've followed much. Lowen 404 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: Rumo's doing pretty good job with the Colts. Yeah. 405 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: There was an ESPN article today that kind of highlighted 406 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: what what teams did in the offseason and getting the 407 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: early returns. What do you make so far about what 408 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: you've seen from TJ. 409 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: Slayton. He's been fine. 410 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: I was I thought he was going to be a 411 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: bigger impact player. Is it more demoral? 412 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 3: I think he's been bad. Just to clarify, I don't 413 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: think he's been a bad player. They are thirty first 414 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: and EPA allowed in the NFL against design runs. I 415 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: mean Slayton was brought in to stop the run. Sure, 416 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: they also got two rookie linebackers. 417 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. They also went and drafted Shamar Stewart, and I mean. 418 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: He's missed most of the season. He has Hendrickson's not 419 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: a good run defender, and. 420 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 2: Chamar had I thought Shamar had a golden opportunity on 421 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: Thursday and did not show up in the statue. 422 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't. 423 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: And it's too early to say that that that's a mispick. 424 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: Him coming off of an ankle injury after not playing 425 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: for a few weeks. I didn't necessarily have high expectations 426 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: for him. Sure, I'm not expecting him to go out 427 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: and have four TFLs and two sacks, but you would 428 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: at least at least like to see him have more 429 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: of an impact. 430 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: One of the players that is actually having an impact 431 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: Joseph Osai nineteen pressures on the year, good for twelfth 432 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. 433 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: Gotta turned pressures into sacks. 434 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was the conversation around drafting Shamar Stewart. 435 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: You know a lot of pressures, not a lot of 436 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: sack numbers. I think the Bengals problem is, and it's 437 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: what you just highlighted, Austin. You've got two rookie linebackers. 438 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: You've got TJ. Slayton, who assigned to stop the run. 439 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: Hendrickson has not been in Even when he's played, it's 440 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: not like he's playing ninety percent of the snaps. They've 441 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 2: not gotten much from Miles Murphy. They've not gotten much 442 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: from Shamar Stewart. 443 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, same old Steart. 444 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: If Osaia is getting the pressures, you would like that 445 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: to mean that the quarterback has to adjust and there's 446 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: someone else there to finish. The problem with the Bengals 447 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: they don't have multiple guys winning on every snap up front. 448 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: One guy might win. It's easy. I'm not gonna say 449 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: it's easy. It's easier for a quarterback to navigate that 450 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: in the NFL if you've got to move around just 451 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: one guy. The problem becomes if you've got to push 452 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: up and now there's pressure up the middle, or you 453 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: push up and spin out and there's another pressure waiting 454 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: for you. Far too many times, in my opinion, the 455 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: Bengals have that initial pressure where it needs to be, 456 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: and then there's just no secondary help. They can't find 457 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: guys that win multiple times on a play, and that 458 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: puts them in a tough situation. 459 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: Now, Lawson tweeted last night, you or him? 460 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: I do. 461 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: Carl Lawson tweeted back where it all started, praying hands emoji. 462 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: Oh so what I did is, of course, the former 463 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 3: Bengals draft pick out of Auburn. I went over to 464 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: the NFL transactions and I call him. Through all the workouts, 465 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: the tryouts, the visits. Carl Lawson nowhere to be found. 466 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: But he was okay last year with the Dallas Cowboys. 467 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: He said that he was thankful for the opportunity he 468 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: got in Dallas. He believes he's twice the player he 469 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 3: was even last year due to a healthy offseason. So 470 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: would you take a flyer on Carl Lawson? 471 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: Yes, take a flyer on anybody. 472 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: I mean, based off of the conversation we just had. 473 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it can't be any worse. Can't be any worse. 474 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: Carl Lawson last year, according to Pro Football Focus, fifty 475 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: nine point seventh grade. Okay, right, kind of in the 476 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: middle of the pack of defensive ends in the NFL. 477 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: It's probably not that much worse than most of what 478 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: the Bengals have. No, and if it was him coming home, 479 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: sign me up for it. Bring him home. You'll be 480 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: having those conversations. I do think the Cedric Johnson thing 481 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: is is noteworthy because he did play well towards the 482 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 3: end of last season him and Joseph said both and 483 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: I would imagine they'll Bengals would stick with Cedric Johnson 484 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: over Cam Sample because Cam Sample really just hasn't been 485 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: the player I expected him to be coming off of 486 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 3: that Beteller Tendont injury and hasn't. I don't know if 487 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: he's gotten a fair share of it of opportunities, but yeah, 488 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 3: these are the things we talked about a lot this week. 489 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 3: Of continuing, continuing to make your team better and improve 490 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: the bottom of your roster, you got to consider, you know, 491 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: Cedric Johnson, Carl Loss and those type of guys. 492 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: Depth is a major conversation in the National Football League. 493 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: As we talked about yesterday, something that everyone's talking about 494 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: from yesterday, what Joe Flacco had to say when we 495 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: come back, Let's get the Joe Flacco audio and let's 496 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: react to that as well. 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Let just go with it. 505 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell you who's speaking in a way that I 506 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: think a lot of us can appreciate is what Joe 507 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: Flacco had to say yesterday, And not just as comment 508 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: that we're going to get to about, you know, getting 509 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: out to dinner and being able to sit by yourself 510 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: and kind of collect your thoughts, but what he had 511 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: to say from his press conference yesterday Austin, I believe, 512 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: what do we have six or seven minutes of Joe 513 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: Flacco from yesterday? 514 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a few minutes of Joe Flacco. 515 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: Let's dive into some Joe Flacco speaking to members of 516 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: the media yesterday. 517 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, it was nice to have a little 518 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: like to be able to breathe a little bit this weekend, 519 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 4: and you know, it feels like I was we were 520 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: just out in the practice field and it feels like, 521 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: you know, I've barely been there it, so, yeah, it's 522 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: good to kind of get back in the normal rhythm 523 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: of a Monday, Tuesday and now actually going out there 524 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: in the practice field on Wednesday field and prepared with 525 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: a normal week. 526 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: You feel like you're operating the way you want to. 527 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: You know you're not going to get a full training camp, 528 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: but how do you feel like you're out there? 529 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean so far, still learning and trying to 530 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: pick up everything, and you know, just play as fast 531 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 4: and as smooth as I can and using just the 532 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 4: same I'm going to try to keep my process the same, 533 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 4: you know, and use these walkthroughs and the practices to 534 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: get used to calling it and seeing it, and you know, 535 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 4: just try to keep keep it at a basic level 536 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: and keep going from there. 537 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 6: So much focused kill you getting accustomed to your weapons, 538 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 6: running backs obviously, the wide receivers, what about the offensive line, 539 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: what side, you know, getting use to them, playing in 540 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 6: front of them, and life. 541 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: Well, it's been great. I mean, I think you can 542 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: tell that those guys are a hard work, hard working group. 543 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: And I think the biggest thing is for those guys 544 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: to get comfortable with each other. And now, you know, 545 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 4: the way you get good at playing with each other 546 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 4: is just trust, you know, trust between everybody trust that 547 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: they're going to do their job. They have the trust 548 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: that I'm going to do my job and get the 549 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: ball out and and you know, no, you know, maybe 550 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: know when we're getting the ball out in quick game, 551 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: know when we're maybe dropping a little bit deeper. I 552 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: think as long as they're nobody can do that and 553 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: trust each other to do their job and not try 554 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 4: to get cute and make up for something here and 555 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: make up for something there, you know, then then we'll 556 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 4: grow together and be happy with it. 557 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 7: Hey, you guys avoid the obligatory letdown game that comes 558 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 7: after a mini by facing a winless team. How do 559 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 7: you guys keep the moments and going on offense from 560 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 7: what you had in Vintsburgh. 561 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: Just go out and take every day by itself, prepare 562 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: Wednesday like you always do, Thursday like you always do Friday, 563 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: and then ultimately win the football game. A lot of 564 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: that stuff is just talk, and you know, you don't 565 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: have to answer it unless you don't go out there. 566 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: You know, unless you don't go you go out there 567 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: and don't play well. So it's simple. You can't worry 568 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: about what the result is at any point, but definitely 569 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 4: not on Wednesday. He's got to go out there and 570 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: prepare and then on Sunday, same thing. You got to 571 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: go play each play and you know, just keep getting 572 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: up and doing the same thing over and over again, 573 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 4: having the best play that you can possibly have in 574 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: that moment. The results come when you when you're able 575 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: to be in the moment and focus on the task 576 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: at hand. 577 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 8: So your offensive line, have you had a chance to 578 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 8: kind of we moved with the Orlando and just a. 579 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 6: Kind of shaking heads and saying, well. 580 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 8: Here we are, and yeah, I've been able to have 581 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 8: that moment yet or. 582 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 4: A little bit, Yeah, because he's very willing to come 583 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 4: up to me and and talk about certain things like 584 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 4: that and just kind of ask me how it's been 585 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: going in Cincinnati and yeah, So like I think he's 586 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: probably driven that conversation, but we've been able to talk 587 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: a little bit about it. 588 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 5: You mentioned one of the game has struggled for the 589 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 5: most part this year before you got here, suddenly starting 590 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 5: to click a little bit, and you think what you've 591 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 5: done in the past game has opened up the run 592 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: game or the one game up open up some things 593 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 5: for you Thursday night. 594 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: The past game, it's tough to say it's it's one game. 595 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 4: I do think the run game early on in that, 596 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: like I think initially the run game did spark us 597 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: that little that thirty yard run we had, and that 598 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 4: was our first scoring drive, I believe, and then and 599 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: the next one we came out and have another little 600 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: chunk run. Anytime that you can, you know, get some 601 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: of those games in the running game, it's going to 602 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: help your offense out a lot. So I think in 603 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: Thursday's case, the run game definitely helped us out. But 604 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: we just got to, you know, like I said, we 605 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: got to just continue to work at it and have 606 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: faith that you know, we're getting better, and you know, 607 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: one game doesn't necessarily indicate what the next is going 608 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: to be. And and just like I said before about 609 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: you know, the process of it all, I don't think 610 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: we can really worry about that. I think we just 611 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: got to continue to work on getting better and trust 612 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: that we're doing the right things, and then on Sundays 613 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: it'll show up. 614 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 8: Is the biggest way a quarterback can help a run game, 615 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 8: un to think of it that way, but the other 616 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 8: ways beyond you obviously talking and running again in that way, 617 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 8: you know, what are the biggest ways quarterbacks can help. 618 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: Keep a running game efficient. 619 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: Well complete passes when you get the opportunity to do it, 620 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 4: you know, stay ahead of the stakes, you know, of 621 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: the sticks, you know, first, first and second down, especially 622 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: first down. When you have easy completions and and you 623 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 4: can keep your helpself ahead of the sticks, then it 624 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: gives you the chance to be multiple and and not 625 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: you know, be kind of forced into being one dimensional 626 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: because you weren't able to do what you were supposed 627 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 4: to do on early downs. I think that's probably the 628 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 4: biggest thing. Other than that, maybe I would say just 629 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: the just the operation of it all, gett into the 630 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, snapping the ball, having good rhythm with that. 631 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 5: This is obviously a very unique situation where you have 632 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 5: to leave your home and income here the way you did. 633 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: How are you navigating a dad? 634 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: Well, the good thing I guess, I guess you could 635 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 4: say is that I was in Cleveland by myself, you know, 636 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: my family was in New Jersey. We decided to do 637 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: that this year because last year we decided to do 638 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 4: it the other way, and this year we just said, hey, 639 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 4: let's keep the kids in their routine and you know, 640 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: see how that goes, and there's been a challenge just 641 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: with that. You know. I love being there and around 642 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: them and doing all those things. But at the same time, 643 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: like they get in their routine and they're having a 644 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 4: lot of fun back at home, and early on in 645 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 4: the season they came out to Cleveland and they're gonna 646 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: come out to this week's game. And I think there's 647 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: always a challenge of sitting in a room by yourself 648 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: and being lonely. So for me, it's trying to find 649 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 4: ways to maybe stay over here a little bit longer 650 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: and then you know, just kind of take myself out 651 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 4: of that mindset, call home, go sit at a restaurant 652 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: by myself and realize that, man, that's pretty enjoyable to do, 653 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: you know. After there's not too many situations, I tell you, 654 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: I tell people all the time. I used to see 655 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: guys sitting at a bar by themselves, or you know, 656 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: just sitting by themselves eating and grabbing a little meal, 657 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 4: and like, man, I feel so bad for that guy. 658 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: You almost want to go join them. And now I realize, 659 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 4: like that dude was in heaven and and and not 660 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: to say that that's that's obviously not what I want 661 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 4: I'd rather. I'd rather be at home, sitting at the 662 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 4: dinner table with my kids and hearing what the hell 663 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: they were talking about all day. Uh, but there are 664 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: but but if but if you have to do it, 665 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 4: then you might as well take advantage of it. So, 666 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: you know, just little things like that. 667 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 3: Or Cincinnati and is starting to see you at restaurants 668 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: and take pictures and say hello. 669 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: I guess so maybe a little bit. 670 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: I try to get there early. 671 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 4: You know, I'll go eat the four thirty dinner and 672 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: and and and beat and and beat everybody up, beat 673 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 4: everybody out of out of work and out of the house. 674 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: So all right, so that is uh so much good 675 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: stuff from Flacco. Let's start with what the end there. 676 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: It's such a relatable thing, and I I really do 677 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: think relatable because Austin, I know you tweeted out about 678 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: it and and something that you actually will do to 679 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 2: to go sit somewhere, watch football, have a couple of drinks, 680 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: eat and and at times not have to say anything. Yeah, 681 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, there's something in this line of work as well. 682 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: My wife would probably totally disagree if she's listening right now. 683 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: But there are times like when you get done talking 684 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: for three straight hours on the radio. Sometimes I just 685 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: want to go home and be quiet, And sometimes that 686 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: can get like construed as are you upset or you 687 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: in a bad mood or like no, sometimes do you know, 688 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: just sitting in your silence is a good thing. Yeah, 689 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: And you know for Flacco, because I used to think 690 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: the same thing, man, what's that? What's that person? Known 691 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: by themselves? Why are they eating by themselves? And now 692 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: you see that? Or now even if I have a 693 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: chance to do that, it's like and this is kind 694 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: of nice right now. And he did a good job 695 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: because he he went back and you know, if he 696 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: had the choice, he'd obviously love to be with his family. 697 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: But to make the most of a situation and be 698 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: able to sit in silence sometimes is something that I 699 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: think a lot of people relate to. 700 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think a lot of people understand, like 701 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: part of what he was trying to say is to 702 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: alleviate the loneliness of the ice you might feel just 703 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: going out in public and being in that environment, even 704 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: if you're not with somebody else, can still be really enjoyable. 705 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: To your point, though about after you get done talking 706 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: for three hours a day, So like my schedule normally, 707 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 3: as I do this and then I go produce another 708 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 3: show for another three hours, and so I'm constantly listening 709 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 3: to the radio, and I'm listening for if something's going wrong, 710 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 3: if there's silence, if there's a word, if I'm hearing 711 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: myself talk or you talk, or other people talk. I'm 712 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 3: constantly monitoring that. And so my drive home every afternoon 713 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: is complete silence. It's the best thing in the world 714 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: to just have that complete silence. But yeah, man, I 715 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: mean like this past weekend, I went out to a 716 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 3: local establishment that's my favorite wing place in Cincinnati to 717 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 3: watch the Ohio State game. And I was just had 718 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: a couple of beverages, had twelve wings, just watched football, 719 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 3: didn't really interact with anybody on me. It was so nice, 720 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 3: but also alleviates that, you know, loneliness that I feel 721 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: from you know, doing and living alone and all that. Yeah, 722 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 3: So that sort of thing. 723 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: It's where it's just a like people all the time 724 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: are like, what else do you listen to? And I'm like, honestly, 725 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: I don't listen to a ton I When I'm done 726 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: with this, I'd like the quiet. I like listen in 727 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: the morning I listened to MO in the afternoons, usually 728 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: if I'm on my way home or doing it and I'm 729 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 2: out and about. But outside of that, I don't mind 730 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: the silence. And that's different for me because I used 731 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: to be one that like always has to be going, 732 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: always has to be active. You learn as you get 733 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: older to appreciate the silence too. Yeah, and I thought, 734 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's why that resonates from 735 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: what Joe Flacco said and why it's blown up the 736 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: way it has. 737 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: It's also like fun for me again, just looking from 738 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: our perspective on all of this thing is like I 739 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: can't tell you how many times I'll come home and 740 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: I'll sit down on the couch or lay down under 741 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: whatever and have my phone or my iPad or whatever. 742 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 3: I don't even turn a TV on. Yeah that's crazy. 743 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: I don't, Or if I do, I'll mute it. It'll 744 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: be on in the background and I'll just like if 745 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 3: I'll look up or whatever. Yeah, you know, there's I 746 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 3: appreciate how genuine and refreshing and open Joe Flacco is. Yeah, 747 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: And I do think you know, a lot of people 748 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 3: want to immediately want to start talking about Joe Burrow 749 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 3: because everybody thinks that this has to be a comparison. 750 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 3: First of all, comparison is a thief of joy. Second 751 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: of all, is it not a good thing for Joe 752 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: Burrow to have an older, wiser, veteran quarterback around, right, 753 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: somebody that has been there and seen it and has 754 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: lived the life both the life that Burrow's living right now, 755 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 3: in an entirely different life over the course of his 756 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 3: twenty plus years. It seems like in the NFL, like 757 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: everybody wants to say, oh, there's a quarterback controversy. No 758 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 3: there's not. Or this guy's such a better person than 759 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. No he's not. They're different personalities. They can 760 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: both be good for each other and ultimately good for 761 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 3: the football team. 762 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: Right. If Joe wanted to do it, I would do 763 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: everything I can to have him back next year. He's 764 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: a backup, I agree. I mean, just what a perfect 765 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: role that would be if he wants to continue on there. 766 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: There are some other things he said too that I 767 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: thought are interesting. He talked about the process of still learning. 768 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: He used the term the process a lot. What's different 769 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: about Flacco than I think a lot of other quarterbacks Austin. 770 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be like a normal live practice 771 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: for him to be getting better, just normal walkthrough stuff 772 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: where he can just get a play call in his 773 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: ear and talk that play call through in the huddle. Yeah, 774 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: like that's hard for him. He's still learning that he's 775 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: seen everything else, so just the process of learning working 776 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 2: on his calls. And then he mentioned one of his 777 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 2: biggest things, play fast. Even if that's dumbing it down, 778 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: even if that's simplifying things, we've talked about them before 779 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 2: on the show. There's something to be said about playing 780 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: fast and not over complicating things. Jamar Chase is really good. 781 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: Te Higgins is really good. Your running back's good. Don't 782 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: over complicated, simplify it and go play fast. 783 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting earlier this week they I 784 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 3: guess Joe had previously talked about getting the play call 785 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: in from Zach and like certain F and X and 786 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: other parts of the play call sounding familiar due to 787 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: Zach's accent. I never knew Zach had an accent, right, 788 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: but apparently he does. And those little things they called 789 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: an Oklahoma accent. This is the first I've ever heard 790 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, is that what thing? But when he 791 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 3: was talking about the other day. I'm like, man, those 792 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: letters do sound like I had never heard of that. 793 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 3: You know that that little stuff is interesting, those little 794 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: intricacies of how you're learning a playbook and spitting it 795 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 3: back out or I'm fascinated. 796 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: By that stuff. I also think his his comment about 797 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: you know why why the running game success, It's also 798 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: something we talk about a lot. Staying ahead of the sticks, 799 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: you know, finding ways to get in second, manageable, third 800 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: manageable where they've run is just as much an option 801 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: as the pass gives you an opportunity to succeed. Jets 802 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes Austin said of Jamar Chase, a 803 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: potential Hall of Famer. Let's get there and work our 804 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 2: way down. Also said on Joe Flacco that you could 805 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: pretty much put him in Canton as well. 806 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know about that, but also sure. 807 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 2: Also, Jets will likely be without Sauce Gardner for this game. Okay, 808 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 2: but linebacker Quincy Williams should be back well. 809 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 3: Sauce needs to take as much time as possible. Take 810 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 3: your time, be healthy, come back for enjoy homecoming. Maybe 811 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: on Saturday. Yeah, play a long career, he could. Yeah, 812 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 3: I would imagine the Jets will be here by that time. 813 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 3: I mean, come on in, if he travels with the team, 814 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about playing on Sunday. Yeah, relax. 815 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: Can he play for the. 816 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Bearcats against the number one against the number one passing 817 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: attack in the country. 818 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: He might need him healthy enough to do that. 819 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: Great question. 820 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Joe Flacco forty seven thousand yards in the 821 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 3: NFL in sixty four touchdown nuts, super Bowl champ, Super 822 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: Bowl MVP, Comeback Player of the Year. I don't know 823 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 3: that he's a Hall of Famer. Forty seven thousand yards, 824 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 3: that's insane. That's twenty six miles. He's thrown twenty six 825 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 3: miles of passes. That's pretty good. Let's take a break. 826 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: We'll finish up hour one. Next. 827 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: John Shearon from Ada his Esports will join us at 828 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: one o'clock. We have talkbacks when we get to our 829 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 2: number three. We've got some West Miller audio, we've got 830 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: read and react, and we've got your phone calls as well. 831 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty on the 832 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: Whole of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station 833 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 2: what's going on in baseball? 834 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio. 835 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixteen, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 836 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 2: Sports Station, Skyline, Chile. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, 837 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: It's Skyline at the time. From the Pro Football Hall 838 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: of Fame, Austin. Following a second reduction vote of candidates 839 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: in the seniors category, thirty four former players remain under 840 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame's class of 841 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Out of those thirty four, Isaac Curtis 842 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: Leap and Lamar Parrish and Ken Anderson all move on. 843 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: Oh wonderful, So they are in to at least the 844 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 3: round of thirty four. It was hogwash earlier this week 845 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 3: when they went down to the fifty disgusting for the 846 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 3: modern era and the only Bengal candidate was Willie Anderson. 847 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 3: It is nonsensical that Geno Adkins did not get at 848 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 3: least past that fifty two. Now, I didn't expect Gino 849 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 3: to be a first ballot Hall of Fame. I don't 850 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: know that anybody did. But some disrespect from Geno Atkins 851 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 3: is it's a bunch of hogwashes. What it is. 852 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: I saw this floating around earlier because we always asked 853 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 2: the question, like, you know, if you could bring back 854 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: one player to today's team, who would it be? And 855 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: there are so many Bengals of the past that would 856 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: make sense. I don't know how you could ever go 857 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 2: against just bringing back a guy like Anthony Munhos to 858 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: a team. I think there's something about this year's team 859 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: where you could make the argument that if you could 860 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: bring back one, it would be Geno Atkins. 861 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no doubt. 862 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean, based on how we talked about this team 863 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 2: and their inability up front to do much right now, 864 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: he might be at the top of the list. 865 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 3: Pass rush from the middle of the defensive line, yep, 866 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 3: would change this defense. 867 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 2: Especially with Trey Hendrickson and the pressure rate we just 868 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: talked about earlier with Joseph Oosai. Who would be some 869 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: others on your top of your list? Munyo's obviously, Yeah, 870 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 2: I mean that's a good one. 871 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 3: If I could bottle up twenty or two thousand and five, 872 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 3: Odell Thurman on the team, Okay, sideline to sideline linebacker 873 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 3: at with that guy was a beast. 874 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 2: I thought Logan Wilson was a sideline, a sideline guy 875 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 2: who was a couple. 876 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 3: Of years ago. Can I get twenty twenty one Logan Wilson. 877 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 3: I'd take him the Rocks. Yeah, I mean if we 878 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: just replaced him. I'm trying to think of some other 879 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 3: I mean obviously Ken Riley, Yeah at corner, if you 880 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 3: were to pair him with DJ Turner right now. 881 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way Turner Turner's playing. Yeah, I don't think 882 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 2: anyone on the offensive side of. 883 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: Them thinking all defense. 884 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: Yep. 885 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 3: Maybe Jesse Bates maybe, Yeah, Jesse Bates would be a 886 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 3: good one. Tyler Eifert from twenty fifteen would be a 887 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: fun one with offensively, yeah, I think we forget how 888 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 3: good that dude was. Health man, yep, just the health Uh. 889 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 3: John Shearon eight is E Sports standing by to join 890 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 3: us when we return on this the Home of the Bengals, 891 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, Cincinnati. 892 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: Make us the number one pre set on your car, 893 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: ready and on the free new and improved iHeartRadio AD 894 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: Free never sounded so good, ESPN fifteen thirty. 895 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 3: This is Jeff for tri statement