WEBVTT - 10-22-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.640 Do you want to be an American? 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.760 He's got flown back on seven hundred, Well, would just 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.799 jump right back into it. Man over the fence, over 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.959 the wall, as they say. City council members are pretty 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.520 tight lipped about taking sides regarding the city manager's decision 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.840 AKA after Perevol's decision a place chiefs Thiji on leave. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.520 We heard from Ken Kober immediately following yesterday's press conference 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.080 with Steve im at the Finny Law fram who is 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.080 representing Chief Thiji in this whole situation. He came on 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.280 my show live on seven hundred Wow, and his immediate 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.400 reaction to this thing was like, listen, there's many in 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.680 the rank and file weren't necessarily Teresa Thigi fans, but 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.080 guess what we all are now because what happened to her, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.120 that she's being railroaded out of her job and being 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.640 called this this is nothing but politics, and she's a 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.480 political scapegoat, and finding out on her thirty fifth anniversary 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.360 of or hire as a new cop and now the 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.600 chief of Cincinnati, the first woman to do that long 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.320 history of service for her family, as an insult to 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.320 the badge and salt to the whole process and what's 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.680 interesting about this after the followed very very few. And that's, 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.040 by the way, I may say, not serving all of them, 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.080 but the only one to voice an opinion on counsel 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.560 and this whole thing joins me now and that is 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:20.680 Seth Wall Seth, good morning. I'm doing well, but I'm 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.040 also probably doing better than you right now. I can't 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.679 imagine what you woke up this morning and went in 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.559 the seconds where the cobwebs are there, they go away. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.360 The first thing you probably thought of is is this 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:30.160 dumpster fire? 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.440 It's been It's been quite a week of chaos and 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:40.000 hectic and yeah, it's been. It's been a week, Scott, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.679 and not the best week that we've had in Entity council. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.960 Yeah, is Terry Thiji the problem? 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.280 You know, I think the problem with that question, Scott 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.720 is how do we know that they're not telling you anything, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.360 They're not telling me anything. None of us know why 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.480 this decision is being made. So Iss, she's the problem. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.920 I'm waiting for the evidence to be shown to us. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.560 But in people, so wow, this is you know, it's 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.360 share a long because the way it works is the chiefs, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.400 the chiefs administrators, they all report to city manager share along. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.120 So this is Cheryl's but again she's just the executioner, right, 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.639 This is the mayor. This is af tad pirrival. This 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.200 isn't Sheryl Long. She is a subordinate and she's doing 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.680 what she I don't know what she is commanded to do, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.840 I suppose, or I don't know. Is Cherylong run the 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.400 whole thing? Either way, it's a horrible look for the mayor, 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.280 especially with an election coming up in a couple of weeks. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.120 Well, I think it's a bad look for the city 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.560 as a whole. You know, from everything that I've been told, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.320 which is pretty much what you see in the media. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.080 I mean, this seems to be a decision made by 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.639 Cheryl Long, and I think that leads to a lot 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.200 of questions about the fact that the police chief, at 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.640 the end of the day, is a very important decision, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.120 especially when we are trying to get crime under control 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.120 in our downtown or over the Rhine and in these 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.280 neighborhoods were seeing spice and crime in It is a 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.000 very very important decision to change the police chief, no 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.000 matter when you're changing the police chief, but to change 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.640 it in such a chaotic tactic fashion with no clear plan, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.840 no clear evidence about why the decision is being made. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.200 That is a massive problem, and it is I think 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.880 it's I think Ken was spot on. I imagine this 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.359 is terrible from hero out for the police Department, because 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.600 you know, even if it's not a situation of a scapegoat, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.520 it sure feels that way. And it's a situation that 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.919 we need to be providing stability right now. We need 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.639 to be showing leadership and we need to put in 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.200 our plan for because the most important thing is public safety, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:35.840 not personality conflict. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.920 Since Walshaw, immediately following the press conference yesterday with Steve Vam, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.840 who did a great job, by the way, I spoke 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.440 to Ken Cobra, President the FFP live on the show, 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.080 and that was one of the questions I had to him. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.120 It's like, we just spent what kramerting four and a 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:54.800 half million dollars with Kramerting, Jefferies, yourself and others voting 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.800 to fund the police department. We got to get more 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.000 bodies and we got to recruit. We're down one hundred 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.440 and thirty one hundred and fifty officers. Can't have that. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.680 We've got have lateral recruiting class We're going to pull 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.200 officers from other jurisdictions and make an appeal to them 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.240 with money and the job at hand, to come to 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.040 Cincinnati and work here and work for a district and 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.160 make a difference in crime, make some money yourself and 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:17.320 all that. That's all well and good. Four and a 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.240 half million dollars does in this whole move undermine that, 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.239 because if I'm a officer, if I'm a beat cup, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.080 and let's say I don't know I work in a jurisdiction, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.599 I'm maybe considering making the move over to Cincinnati go 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.800 a whole On second, look, they look how dirty they 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.120 just did the chief, and that's a chief. I'm nobody. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.839 What chance do I have? So did we just shoot 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.400 ourselves in the foot? We opened the coffers up to 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.320 four and a half mil. But at the same time 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.880 send the message out that we don't know what we're 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.200 doing over here, and we'll make you escapegoat politically if 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:47.640 we have to. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.240 Well, that's where my concern comes in in terms of 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.599 there's a lot of concern I have here. But yes, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.920 when we're talking about our law enforcement members, not only 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.600 the morale of existing police rale of those we're trying 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.600 to hire, but is that plan even heading forward the 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.040 five and a half five point four million dollars we 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.480 just allocated, Like, what is the plan for that now? 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.520 Because it was moving forward under the last police chief 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.680 who's currently on administrative lease. It's not That's what That's 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.080 my frustration where I'm most upset right now is we 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.360 are trying to get crime under control in the city 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.200 of Cincinnati. It is not clear the stability in the 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.520 past for that because nothing's been laid out to us 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.960 other than this hectic process that we've all watched play 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.680 out of the media. We've named an interim police chief 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.599 who by all accounts is an amazing individual and going 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.800 to be a great leader for the department. But it's 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.240 not clear what the transition is and what's carrying on 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.960 and what the problem even was in the first place. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.159 But let's just change. So how can you and I 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.880 even confidently say we know what's happening next? You know, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.480 is all the plans we've done for the last two 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.680 months drown out the window and we're starting fresh or 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.680 are we continuing it? And if we're continuing it, how 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.720 are we going to provide the confidence people that that's 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.280 what's happening. I don't know, and that is not an 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.320 acceptable answer for somebody who's city on Tony calnpamil give you, 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.600 And it's not an accept able answer for the city 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.400 manager to give us that as the solution right now 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.200 is that we don't have enough information to even answer 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.479 that question. So yeah, I'm very worried about that. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.599 Yeah, and as I understand, I don't know any but 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.800 I understand from the rank and file many they respect him. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.080 They love the guy. I mean, he's the guy that 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.400 wrote that citation a month later or charged anyway, the 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.159 white guy in the brawl, because that was at the 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.800 behest of the rabid reverence out there who demanded a 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.520 flash demanded of Whitey be charged because he got black 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.960 guys who were an assault and no officer on the 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:32.920 scene would write it because they didn't think a crime 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.480 was committed. But he took essentially the political bullet and said, okay, final, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.440 I'll be the one that puts my name to this, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.720 this thing that got that ball rolling. And that was 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.479 all the behest of the mayor's office. So that's greasy 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.119 and dirty as well, because that is a potential civil 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.120 rights violation, which you know, again, when you're fighting to 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.800 keep your nose above water like Afta puribals and keep 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.360 his political career going, that seems like a pretty big 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.760 misstep to me. You open yourself up for a civil 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.800 rights case. But I don't know, does they only care 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.840 about this election coming up and damn the torpedoes. We'll 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:04.800 see what happens after that. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.080 You know, again, I don't know. From everything I've heard, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.200 it doesn't sound like this was the mayor's decision, which 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.400 I know is you know, we think the way the 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.480 city government works, that this would be the marrior's decision. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.280 This is legally and technically the city manager's decision. And 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.800 everything that I've heard behind the scenes, which again it's 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.960 not much more than what you've heard, does not sound 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:27.920 like the mayor's the one who made the decision on this. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.400 It sounds like the mayor may have been aware of 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.760 conversations transpiring behind the scenes which led to comments last week, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.520 But beyond that, I don't have anything to indicate that 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.040 a have to have was the one who made the decision. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.480 Ultimately, well, there was a political component to this, There's 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:47.120 no question about it. This wasn't a criminal charge. This 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.360 was a political charge. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.560 Yeah, I mean I think that that's one of the 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.040 big questions. Why does this decision made? Right now? What 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.880 was the urgency that required this decision to be made 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.000 so quickly that the police chief had a flyback from Colorada? 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.440 And I've asked that question. I don't have a satisfactory 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:07.480 answer to it, right, And it seems like there was again, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.800 I mean, it's chaos, and it seems like chaos reigned 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.080 for thirty six hours at city Hall and bad decisions 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.480 were made and that's not okay and that's not acceptable, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.840 and that's the big problem here. Some people need to 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.560 come out and say what actually happened and led to 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.840 this and why this decision was made. You know, this 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.880 is a really big decision, and the absence of information 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.920 leads to rampant speculation that is not good for anybody. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.560 And I don't understand why people are so gun try 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.280 to come out and just say what happened and what 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.280 led to this decision. It's not like we don't know 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.439 what's happening. You know. Last Wednesday, I think they put 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.920 out like three press releases saying that she was still employed, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.439 which is you know, you know that Scott, You're in 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:43.880 the media is like, that's the kiss of death. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't I don't understand you. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.320 We're good at reducing force around here, so we know this, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.560 but I don't heard when somebody get called back from 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.679 a conference in Denver and going, hey, you got to 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.480 get back here right away because you've got a we've 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.240 got a violence emergency. Well, you know, the emergency would 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.640 have happened immediately. What happened to Mountain Square, this was, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.080 this was after that. There's nothing newsworthy going on, and 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.800 just out of the blue, she's in Denver and now 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.400 we got to pull the plug on or doesn't make 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.000 any sense. And I brought up A. Henny's name earlier, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.520 and he seems like a great guy, be a great chief. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.040 But I guess the question is, wasn't that Terry the 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.000 We don't know why Terry Thigi got fired in the 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.719 first place. There's no reason around this. And technically she's 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.080 not fired, she's still on administrative leave. So there's that 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.320 level of confusion. What are you getting with Henny that 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.280 you didn't have with Thiji. Nobody knows. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.240 Right, And you know, again, a hard number one priority 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.960 has to be public safety. So you know, I I 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.160 think Henny is going to do a great job. But 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:40.880 at the end of the day, you know, things I've 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.520 heard from police officers are are we being held accountable 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.800 for the fact that crime is happening? And I can't 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.480 imagine what the morale is and I have it. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:49.120 It's a very. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.800 Difficult question for me to answer it now because I 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.319 don't know what we're holding her accountable for. There may 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.920 ver will be a good reason, Scott that you and 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.160 I would agree with and say, yeah, that's the right decision, 0:09:58.160 --> 0:09:59.800 and you know, it had to happen urgently, but we 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.360 absent of information, we don't know that, and so the 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:08.360 perception is chaos. And uh, you know, we're reacting to crime, 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.880 but we're reacting now to it as opposed to over 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.720 the summer, where you and I've had multiple conversations about it, 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.120 and this is just it doesn't make sense. And I 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.560 think the clarity is so badly needed because it is 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.720 going to have a negative impact on our police, it's 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.440 going to have a negative impact on our citizen morale, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:24.920 it's going to have a negative impact on what we 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.880 are trying to do as a city. And right now, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.120 I don't think that we need that forget the election, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.439 think about Cincinnati and what we are trying to achieve. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.040 You and I talk about economic development all the time. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.720 You know, right now is when we need the inspiring 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.920 confidence that we've got this under control, because we want 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.520 people coming downtown, we want people coming to over the run. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.600 This is not a good time to indicate in any 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.480 way that we you know, we're not We don't have 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.319 a plan for how we're handling public safety. And again 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.120 there may very well be a plan. They come out 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.480 and tell it to us, show us what the plan is. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.400 I don't have a censor as a plan, Council Member 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.200 sas Walsh, I really really don't. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:57.880 Uh. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.400 Here's the issue, though, you're out now campaigning as all 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.400 members of council are, when election coming up in just 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.400 a few short days, you're almost down to the wire 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.760 right now. When you talk to your constituents, When you 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.960 talk to the good people of Cincinnati, not only the citizens, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.320 but also the people who operate and own businesses in 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.719 in downtown, just to maybe travelers too as well, who 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.040 the hell knows you make contact with. What is the 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.800 consensus among the constituents in this. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.480 I mean, I'm hearing. I imagine this is what you're 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.960 hearing and what people are feeling who are listening to this. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:32.520 You know, Opinions about the police chief varied, but opinions 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.040 about how this has been handled are pretty unified, which 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.360 is that she didn't deserve to be treated this way 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.680 so publicly. It's not clear why it happened, and so 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.959 the opinions on the entire process is that it is 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.520 it's been atrocious and that nobody deserves to go through this, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.400 least of all for not a clear reason about why. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.960 And people are pretty offended by it, and I think 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.280 rightfully so, and I think again, absence of information, it 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:58.840 looks bad. It looks really bad. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.400 Oh, the FOP should have voted no confidence on the 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.840 mayor's conduct here in an indirect way that with Thigi 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.480 and now they're standing behind Fiji going listen. There are 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.800 numbers who had issues with Terry and how she ran 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.840 the shop, as you will with any boss for that matter. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.640 But at the same time everyone is coalesced. I guess 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.120 on the thin blue line to say this is outrageous 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.400 and there's no plan going. The way I look at 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.000 it politically, Seth is what's the strategy here. I mean 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.840 you have turmoil with an interim chief, which implies you 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.560 have no control over crime and that it's all Terry 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.000 Thigi's fault. You mean, Kenny the chief. It's a fresh start. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.480 Then you get to the election. Were the repercussions here? 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.000 Because I'll be honest with you, even with this nonsense 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.200 and this mess that's going on right now in this 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.760 S show and the way this has been handled, I 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.880 don't know how Aftab loses the election. I really don't. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.680 I mean he can, I suppose, but I don't see 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.680 this huge ground swell for Corey Bowman, who's a political 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.320 no name upcomer, and Jad Vans's brother dad has baggage. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:54.920 You know what I'm saying. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:13:00.360 Well, I mean I saw a great faith and of 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.960 the Cincinnati and I do think that his election results 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.600 will be very positive for him. But I think it's 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.080 important to remind you, know, your listeners, that Cincinnati is 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.640 three branches of government. You know, it's the mayor, it's 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.880 the city council and this administration, and all three are 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.800 are theoretically equal. So you know, the mayor, I think 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.320 you're right, he's going to get re elected city Council. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.720 Obviously that the vote there is important for people to 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.880 show up and make their voices heard, but also equally 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.680 so you know, even if you know all eight incumbents 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.360 are re elected and you know we get the ninth member, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.600 Bryan James elected on the Democratic slate there, people may 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.839 feel frustrated, but the administration is still equal on here 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.840 that you know, you should be expecting us to be 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.240 asking these hard questions of You should be asking us 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.360 and expecting us to be challenging them to come up 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.080 with the answers and tell us what is going on 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.840 in a public setting, not behind closed doors, not in 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.280 a way that you know it's not clear, because this 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.280 is too big and too important of an issue not 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.760 to have clear answers off for the public. And I 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.720 think that's really important people understand. You know, the mayor 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.319 and city council are your voices near representatives the way 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.480 our government is set up, as the administration's in charge, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.160 and if we are not getting clear answers, we need 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.040 to be pushing them to get the clear answers. And 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.160 we can't just rest on our laurels and say like, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.480 well that's their decision. We need answers we need to. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:12.679 Hold them agut and we do. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.480 This is one way to do it. Let's make it 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:15.520 clear where we're frustrated. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.800 All right, voters most likely will choose AFTAB over Corey Bowman. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.400 But at the same time, does this have an effect 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.440 down ticket? Should you be concerned as well? Should the 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.320 odd members of council because so many people that are 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.080 running because of the way this was mishandled. We've got 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.360 so many hats in the ring right now. Anything can happen. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.200 You say you support AFT to add pureval, but what 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.320 if you cost you your seat? 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.560 Like anybody running for any office should be scared when 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.040 they have to go out there. They have to earn 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.640 votes every single day. It's one of the reasons that 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.080 I'm trying to be vocal about this. I think the 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.680 people's for people need to feel their frustration is being 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.720 vocalized at an elucts of leadership capacity. I think anybody 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.800 running right now should be worried and should be willing 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.280 to take a stance on this issue, and they have 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.200 their opinions known on this issue because this is an 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.440 important issue that determines kind of how the next administration 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.440 operates in terms of you know, whoever gets elected this cycle. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.840 And if you're not willing to speak out, if you're 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.120 not willing to challenge and the hold people accountable. You know, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.920 that's the role of a city council member is to 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.360 hold the administration accountable, to ask the hard questions. It's 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.080 how you and I to become I would say we're 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.560 friends now, Scott, but you know, we started having these 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.320 conversations about a bridge fire where they thought that three 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.880 years was acceptable to take to get it fixed, and 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.920 I've said, no way, and we got done one hundred days. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.680 That's why we start talking about snowclouds, because we didn't 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.520 plow six hundred streets and we had to hold people 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.840 accountable and ultimately the DPS director retired because of that, 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:40.920 and we got somebody in there that is going to 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.920 get our streets cloud this year. And that is the 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.080 job of the city council member. And if you're not 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.280 willing to speak out the whole the administration accountable, I 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.760 don't know why you should be elected to it. And 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.800 I think that you guys should be holding people accountable 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.440 and challenging us to speak out and say these things. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.240 We can all be the same party. We can all 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.080 be friends, but our job is accountability. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.640 I can't say all Seth Walsh. I can't say all 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.160 members of council beside yourself, but most members of council 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.240 and maybe y'all. No one wants to come out publicly 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.360 and chastise the mayor and call them out as you 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.600 just did on the show. Why is that? Why do 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.800 you think that is that you're the only one willing 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:15.200 to do it. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.120 I don't know, Scott, and I will prefer to you 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.760 to figure that one out for me. I don't have 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.840 enough money to go to therapy to get that answer. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.880 Well, I mean, it's not I don't understand. It seems 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.760 to me maybe we're just trying to protect the brand. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.120 Like if I'm a Democrat, I'm not allowed to criticize 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.800 another Democrat. You just did that, and I think you're 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.200 going to be fine. It's okay. We need to get 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.640 back to it. Whether it's same with the Republicans. Republicans, Hey, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.400 you can't criticize Trump. Yeah you can. You're supposed to. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.080 That's how the system works up. I mean, I got 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.120 I get in fights when I was younger, all the 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.280 time with my two brothers. I still love them. I 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.080 take a bullet for either one or both of them. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.280 But you're allowed to disagree with people. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:00.320 Yeah, I agree, and I try to lead by sample, 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.720 and I hope you know it is scary sometimes to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.520 step on the ledge and take the phone call with you, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.520 Scott and say, I don't know his opening question is 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:08.840 going to be today, but we'll find out. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:10.440 Oh that's two of us. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.880 Yeah right, so we're always surprised. It's always a fun time. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.520 But yeah, I hope others get the confidence and the 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.359 courage to be speak out too, because I think on 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.520 issues like this it's too important to stay silent. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.640 Yeah, yeah, all right, I know you got to get going, Seth. 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.360 I appreciate it. Hopefully you can brave through this. Council member, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.920 Seth Wals should appreciate your vote. I'm sure very thoughtful 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.240 as always, and we'll see where this goes. But I 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.040 even think the people who know I don't know where 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:37.720 it's going at this point, and that's a scary part. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:38.760 All the best, my friend, do will. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:40.960 Thanks Scott, take care. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.160 You know, we just had the No King's protest down people. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.040 Donald Trump is as it's chaos. He's making rass decisions, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.800 no accountability, no context. And if you're a Democrat and 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.399 you're down there, I imagine many Republicans are the no 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.159 Kings rally. But if you're down there, a't so your 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.000 point and this is your belief, I'd have to ask you, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:05.560 isn't this exactly what you were protesting this weekend? Chaos? 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:11.080 No accountability, investigations by law enforcement that are politically compromised, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.719 unelected appointees like Iris Rawley having too much power, cronyism. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.159 We protesting Trump when you should have also been protesting 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:33.760 aftab puer Vault. Scott's Loan Show seven hundred ww Solony 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.040 seven hundred WLW just had that council member Seth Walsh 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.080 on the show live and he brought the noise this morning. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.080 That's a little who That was like a third cup 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.800 of coffee, Wasn't it? Like the only member of council 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.840 not afraid to go at AFT tab pure Vaul at 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.840 this point everyone else is kind of laying lows in 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.159 which way the wind blows, which I get. You know, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.399 election season, you don't know what's going to happen with 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.600 the voters because they're a piste off, and who could 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.200 blame them based on what's happening right now, largely because 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.440 of the mayor. And I think there's maybe some conservatives, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.240 probably a good number of people or cursing me out 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.520 or maybe not listening anymore because I'm not drinking the 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:12.880 entire right kool aid. And that's fine. But I look 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.600 at that and go, well, you know, I just don't. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.600 Corey Bowman seems like a good guy. You know, he's 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.280 a pastor, he's the brother of the Vice president. If 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.000 you're a conservative, you probably vote for him. But the 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.879 problem is you're not in Hamlin County. It's deep, deep blue, 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.840 and how much does that carry in deep blue Cincinnati. No, 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:34.520 I think after that peerful knows that, and which is 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.520 even the worst part, because you feel like, hey, you 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.439 know what, I don't have to I don't have to 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.440 play this out. I can do whatever I want, which 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.879 is part of a bigger problem. And I kind of 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.520 brought it up at the end of talking to Seth 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.119 Walsh there and I was thinking about it, turning the 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:51.639 break and go. This past weekend we had the No 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:56.800 Kings rallies right that the nationwide protests against President Trump. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.879 Not one person who voted for Trump would be a 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.440 No Kings rally. Right, So the protesters, what were their grievances, Well, 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.320 there are a lot of individual grievances out there, and 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.080 anytime you have one of these tantrums, and that's what 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.560 it was, a tantrum. It's a bunch of people with 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.320 hold a wide difference of what it is there to 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.560 bitch about. But the commonality is the president of the 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:22.840 United States and the protesters were concerned about what many 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.560 things the direction of the country that were descending into fascism. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.640 That there's just nothing but chaos with this president. I'd 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.200 agree with that, there's a lot of chaos going on. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.600 That this is a guy that makes rash decisions. There's 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:42.240 no accountability, there's no context. Okay, you protested Trump et cetera. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:46.480 Point this weekend for the No Kings rally. How is 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.920 this different than what's happening at city Hall? Because one guy, 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.880 and you could say, sure, a long now aftad pure 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:55.760 of all is holding the city hostage in a sense 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.240 with the stupid ways handled crime. There's platitudes and there's measures, 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.760 there are too little, too late. Trump doesn't answer to anyone. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:04.959 And if you love Trump, you love that about him. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.080 But if you don't, you hate that. It's like he 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.480 won't listen to He only listens himself. Okay, so who's 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:15.400 aftablist answering to counsel? No. We just had Seth Walshawn 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:18.960 and he said, no one knows what's going on. We 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.879 know that Trump isn't afraid of the camera or the 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.040 reporter of the question. He goes to them. Hell, he 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.760 puts all the stuff out. I'm social. When Patrick Carringer 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.760 was killed in his own home two days later, he 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.159 didn't post about that. He posted about a ribbon cutting 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.119 that he was a part of and literally steps away from. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.480 When this man was murdered his own home, not a word. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:40.800 We had the since he beat down in late July, 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.879 what did he do? Left for vacation the day after 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.639 it went down. It's going viral. You know it's going 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:54.960 to be bad. And he fled to Canada. Ah, okay, Well, 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.360 you know, if you're against chaos and no accountability and 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.040 no context and doing order, the hell you want to 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.840 not answering to anyone and destroyt I'm sorry, isn't it 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:09.760 what aftabt puervol is doing right now? One of the 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.879 criticisms is, you know Trump is he has his investigations 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.520 and the law enforcement are now politically compromise of Justice 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.240 department is not anymore. It's about it's about retribution and 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.120 taking care of you on. Okay, Well, the guy who's 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.560 just been named innor in chief knowingly wrote a citation 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.440 to cause the arrest of the white guy who was 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:30.840 the victim in the brawl. Not the responding cops, Not 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:32.639 the cops who showed up because they said, well, you know, 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:34.280 we think you're the victim of a crime, but the 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:38.240 lieutenant colonel. And it was a full month later, after 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.000 the reverence demanded and after the press conference, the charges 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:47.280 are filed and then sealed. What what This is not 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.800 a criminal charge. It's a political charge. And it's all 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:56.520 under sheer Long, who is essentially the pit bull for 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.159 after puer vol the same guy who was forced by 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.320 the order of his boss's any manager named it her 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.600 in chief is a reward for being loyal. I may 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:05.919 be wrong about that, and this is I don't think 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:07.800 it's indictment of Henny, because I understand it's great guy. 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.199 He's loved by the cops, and you know, I get it. 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:11.879 You're going to do what you're told if you're the 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.879 piper you call the tune, and Henny is not the piper. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.480 He's way down the food chain. And he didn't want 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.879 his officers to have be forced politically by the mayor's 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:26.080 office to do that, so he said, I'll do it 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.120 for you. That that's leadership in a in a very 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.280 and that's leadership in a vacuum, is what that is. 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.560 So this is an attack on Henny. This is an attack 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:40.760 on what happened we hear about. Oh my god, look 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.760 at look at all the benefactors to Trump and the 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.520 people that are as you know, the people that support 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.680 him and give him money, and his benefactors that elon 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.240 musks and the butt kissing him. Okay, unelected appoint he's 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.520 have too much power. And this is a much smaller 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.240 scale because of the city of Cincinnati. But what Tyris Rawley, 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.520 she's she's interfering with cops who are awfully enforcement a 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.480 law by arresting individuals without standing warrant. What you're supposed 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:05.920 to do in your cop and she's telling the person 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.679 you have rights to resist. This is a woman they 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.320 pay over one hundred thousand dollars to who. By the way, 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:16.560 three years ago, when Terry Thigi got the job. The candidates, 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.240 including Terry, were interviewed by Iris Rawley. They had to 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.800 pass the Iris Rowley test. What authority does she have? 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:27.919 Two few and two infrequent state troopers, which they begutually 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.720 went along with, but just enough to make it, Hey, 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.920 we're cooperating with the state. You really aren't. They're coming 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.800 in for like one, like one day a week or 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.560 two days a week, something stupid like that. The state 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.679 troopers had to be lectured by her. And if you 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.919 talk about cronyism, Roy's son was hired to talk to 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.119 young people at Fountain Square as a criminal pass and 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:47.760 I guess it's maybe to get them on the right path. 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.200 He's got a part time gig through his mom, paying 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.640 sixty I think, what is it, almost sixty thousand dollars 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.240 a year. Fifty thousand dollars a year. Sixty dollars an 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:01.040 hour basically is what it is. What to talk to 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.480 people to Fountain Square. You're getting fifty sixty bucks an hour. 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.720 Who the hell doesn't want that gig? And why does 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.600 he have that job because of his experien No, because 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.280 his mom is connected the AFTM. So for all the 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.639 folks who are down on the Riverfront this weekend with 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.919 a No King's rally and all the stuff that you're against, 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:19.840 and there's a lot of there's a lot of things. 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.639 I get it with this president that people don't like. 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.160 I understand it. Some of it I agree with myself. 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.119 But for me, who the problem is politics, it's not 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.879 the politician, it's the party, it's the process. You know, 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.000 it's kind of funny watching folks out there who are 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.360 deep deep blue, angry at deep deep red, and they 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.840 don't see that the deep deep problem is the same thing. 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.480 There's a lot of characteristics I just laid out and 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.240 probably many more that you can check the box for 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:50.200 Donald Trump, but you can also check that box or 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:56.520 after to have puerful other stuff going on. Speaking of which, 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.040 speaking of the presidential l this is one to me 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.280 that I look at and I don't know. We're just 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.280 people are just so angry at one side or the 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:08.200 other that they just they can't see even when it's 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:12.480 something is I don't know, minor as remodeling the White House. 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.159 They're gonna make a big deal out of it. So 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.600 the Australian Prime ministers and I guess someone bumped into 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:18.320 a four hundred year old mirr and Trump kind of 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.200 lost his mind a little bit, which is kind of funny, 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.480 but pointed out that he's worried about it about one 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.200 mirror while the demolition crews at the same time are ripping, 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.320 are destroying the east wing, and why are they destroying 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.600 the east wing? They make room for this gaudy ballroom. 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:37.800 Hold on just a second, y'all. The White House came 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.960 to be the White House in seventeen ninety two. That's 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.520 two hundred and thirty three years. So let's just review 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:49.359 a second. Okay, has that building changed you think substantially 0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:54.320 in the last two hundred and thirty plus years. Chester Arthur, 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.800 Chester A Arthur, and the A stands well. I don't 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.480 know what the A stands were, but it stands for something. 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.600 Chester A. Arthur had a remodel done where it was 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:07.080 largely Victorian, a lot of tiffany glass. Some people like 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.199 the tiffany glass. Some people go it's too much. And 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.800 one of those people to be Teddy Roosevelt, because twenty 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.960 one years later he revitalized the White House added the 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.280 West Wing. The West Wing wasn't always there. Teddy Roosevelt 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.480 tr put in the West Wing. It's a separate building 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.840 that houses, as you know, the staff, the secretary's cabinet room, 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.080 all that stuff as well. Then our own, Cincinnati's own 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.680 William Howard Taft in nineteen oh nine, seven years later, 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.840 comes in and expands the West Wing and says, you 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.560 know what, We're gonna put an office in here, the 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.639 Oval Office. The Oval Office was non existent till nineteen 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:44.119 oh nine. In nineteen twenty seven, Calvin Coolidge put a 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.720 third floor on and said, yeah, you know what, we're 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.560 run out of space because we keep putting stuff in 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.440 the attic. What if we just put a third floor 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.320 in this thing? And at the time, the newspapers one 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.920 newspaper work anti Calvin Coolidge, going, what are we doing 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.200 over here? I know it's the twenties, the roaring twenties, 0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.200 and we've got money, but this seems irresponsible. And of 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.040 course then during this whole remodel, we had the Great 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:08.199 Depression kick in. Near the end of that term. In 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.880 nineteen forty eight, Truman said, okay, well we really need 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.000 to double down here. And it was the most extensive 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.760 renovation the history of the White House that lasted four 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.160 years to remodel the White House entirely, which was well overneeded, 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.080 desperately need at that point. But even since the Truman renovation. 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.960 In nineteen fifty two, Jackie Kennedy created the Rose Garden 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:27.840 and you know, Donald Trump blew that up and it 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.600 pissed every Oh Rose Garden the history again, what was 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.639 the Rose Garden before Jackie Kennedy did something there? Gerald 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.600 Ford put a swimming pool in, Nickson put in a 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:42.000 bowling alley. In seventy three, Obama did the Big Dig 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.680 and that just basically expanded the situation room and the 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.800 space under the west wing, so nothing was destroyed there. 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.000 But we've had a long history of blowing up the 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:50.960 White House and doing different things. I just I don't 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.120 understand why, hey, taking the west one would put a 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.160 new ballroom in. It's just because Trump's doing it now. 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.640 If Biden had won the election and we're doing it, 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.560 I'm sure people on the right to be screaming out, 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.280 we don't have the money to do this stuff, and 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.200 so it goes. It's just the silliness of it. We've 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.480 been remodeling the White House periodically for a long time 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.000 because the building is two hundred and thirty three years old, 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.440 and eventually you look at it going, this isn't working anymore. 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.479 And I forget what Nixon's bowling all. I don't think 0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.120 it's a bowling al anymore. It's something else. You think 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.160 Obama had a basketball court putt it or something. I 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:22.560 don't know if the court was always there, but had 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.000 that I wonder if that went away. I don't know, 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.960 but it seems like they do a good job, even 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.160 with the shutdown, of taking care of themselves. And that 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.719 is the point of the discussion. It's like you keep 0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.720 blaming one side or the other. You just keep making 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.040 excuses for your team and ignoring it when the other 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.280 You emphasize it when the other side does it, ignore 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.480 it when your side does it. It's exhausting. I think 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.200 for those of us, the eighty percent of us, we 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.160 just want to live our lives, make money, be left alone, 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.960 probably feel about the same way. You know, back to 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:50.880 the government shutdown. And as they said, as we get 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.320 closer to thirty thirty five days in the significant of 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.560 the shutdown gets greater and greater. You know, for the 0:29:56.600 --> 0:30:00.000 first couple of weeks, who cares, got some park shutdown? Okay, 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.440 somebody could get paid eventually they get paid, you know, 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:03.880 a month. And now it's starting to cut to the 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.240 correl aboe. You know, we're getting job reports and things 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.440 like that start to go by the wayside. And now 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.200 you know, nuclear energy furloughs. Okay, well what does that 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.600 look like? In the longer drags on, the deeper and 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.680 deeper we start to feel this. But the beginning it's 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.360 it's we're still I believe we're still in the theater 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:24.240 stage at this thing. Okay, nuclear weapons agency has been 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.280 hit according to Fox News, right, a government shut down 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.960 hits top nuclear weapons agency. All Right, as I'd be 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:30.960 concerned if we had to launch nukes, I would you 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.840 still be able to do that? Yes, yes we would 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.920 because all but eight percent of the government is still open. 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.000 That's not going to change the pain felt by federal 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:45.160 workers and contractors. And maybe when you show up to 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.000 get something done, like for example, got an email. Doesn't 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.920 apply to me at all, but I pay Social Security 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.640 as probably you do when you get an email from 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.560 the Social Security and mister saying listen, you know what 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.680 the officers are shot, but you still do stuff online. So, 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.640 as I said yesterday, is a matter of fact to 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.239 our Buddy Schaeffer over it all worth financial they're going 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.760 to get back together. I guess the people decide this 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.840 to make sure that the COLO that would be the 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.560 cost of living raiss for those on Social Security will 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.080 get their cost of living increase, because if he didn't 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.000 do that, and the old people who vote would be 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.600 pissed off. Now you're literally putting your lips on that 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.440 third rail. That's what you're doing. But you know, the 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.120 stuff that's going to really really upset people, like Social Security, 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.320 We're still going to continue to do that kind of stuff. 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.680 And we're always going to do that because this is 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:32.760 nothing but theater. 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:34.000 Now. 0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.959 Granted, the longer we get into it, the more of 0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.120 those things will see and feel, and we'll just get 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.000 tired of them, and eventually somebody's gonna blink and they'll 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.640 come back and we'll just shut the government down again 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.760 in about six or seven weeks and start this process 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.160 all over again. Slowly. Here the big one seven hundred 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.760 WLW do have some developing news, and we've been so 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.320 I got obsessed with the Terry Thiji thing that's still 0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.440 going on that there's actually other stuff going on in 0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.840 the world. Those things is recall, right before all this 0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:07.240 broke was the intoxicating hemp law reform that was going down, 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.600 where intoxicating hemp UH and that whole process is it's 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.160 rather complex if you're not following what's going on there. 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.640 We have beverages out there that have THHC in them, 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.360 and THHC, of course is the element in cannabis THHC 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.200 delta nine in particular that gets you high. And there's 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.240 a lot of confusion over this whole thing. I hope 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.000 I can straighten it out maybe a little bit here, 0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:29.920 make some sense of this, because it's a complex issue 0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:34.280 as to why we're going after intoxicating hemp. And there's 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.960 beverages out there that they sell that have THHC in it, 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.720 but that derive from the hemp plant. And there's a 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.240 lot of complex things. Largely it's because of all the 0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.640 lack of regulation and then sweeping regulation coming in once 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.680 the people pass something like legislating recuational marijuana. So cannabis 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.240 and hemp are related plants. They look alike chemically, they're different. 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.000 The part that gets you high AF is a lot 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:59.440 less present than hemp, so in cannabis, THHC is a 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.640 lot higher. That's the stuff that gets you high, and 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:06.160 CBD it's the opposite. It's it's a lot less. Hemp 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.640 is legal in the United States, Cannabis isn't by federal law. 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.000 Hemp is a plant, and bulk of hemp is actually 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.920 used for fabric and clothing and stuff like that. Rope 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:19.720 think for example, so THHG gets you high, CBD doesn't. 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.200 Hemp has something like point three percent THHCN, just a 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.239 trace amount of it. So somebody along the line said, hey, 0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.360 you know what, since there's this hemp loophole, quote unquote, 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:29.800 if we just get a hell of a lot of 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:34.520 hemp and extract that point three percent THCHD, we can 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.280 take that and it'll have the same effect as marijuana plant, 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:43.640 the America cannabis plant. So technically it's a loophole because we 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.600 will always find a way around prohibition always. We always 0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.360 have in the world. If there's a black market, somebody's 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.880 gonna find it. So hemp products can be sold almost 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.560 anywhere in the state and the government has no jurisdiction. 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:55.880 That's why we had this emergency order from the wine 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.400 because the legislature was slow to move on changing end 0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.320 of it's because they're being held hostage, I guess by 0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.760 the far right. And we're afraid of church groups yelling 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.240 at us because dare someone put something or do something 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.480 that they disagree with put some of their body disagree 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.600 with that. That's how it works. And so the other 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.440 thing you need about Delta eight nine is eight is 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.440 considered a less potent and milder than delta nine. That 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.279 is a big component in cannabis, and you get more 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.760 of a subdued high in that it's a little more relaxing, 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.560 a little more clear headed. And delta nine is your 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.400 classic weed high. And so we have these beverages that 0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.840 are infused with that product, the Delta eight that people enjoy. 0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.320 And then talking to well like the folks at fifty 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.600 West for example, said hey, listen, you know our craft 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.080 brew the whole craft brew thing starting to die. People 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.239 are kind of craft brewed out. But you know what 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.920 they really really like. They like these seltzers. They like 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.719 these waters essentially that are infused with that Delta eight. 0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:51.240 So you get the same effect as alcohol, but also 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.840 a lot of people like the way you feel the 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.520 day after. You know, a lot of people get hangovers. 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.600 By the way, my superpower, never get hungover, get drink 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.040 and drink, drink, and wake up the next day ready 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:05.200 to go. Don't know why, just how it is in 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.400 that regard. People are going, Wow, you know what, I 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.279 don't have that feeling I have the next day. I 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.080 can have a couple of these and feel nice, have 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.800 a good, warm feeling about me as you get with alcohol. 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:19.560 But I don't have the residual effect. Okay, you're twenty 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.120 one or older. What's wrong with that? Nothing? So the 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.680 good news is, rather than we had this ninety day ban, 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:26.560 and then of course there was a three companies, one 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.759 here in Cincinnati filing a lawsuit against this, and there's 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.759 an injunction that stops so you can still drink those 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.960 beverages at fifty West and elsewhere. It's all good now. Finally, 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.160 what looks like we have the legislature being forced at 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.120 gunpoint to do what they're unwilling to do, and we 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.759 have new legislation that addresses all this stuff. The guy 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.520 behind it, of course, is Steve Hoffman. He's a physician 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.200 and also state senator from just the Tip City. He 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:50.840 joins me next on the show to talk about this 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:57.120 and more coming up on seven hundred WW Cincinnati Good 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.920 Morning's Scott fum here on seven hundred WW streaming on 0:35:59.920 --> 0:36:02.680 the iHeartRadio app. We have the PG stuff going on, 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:04.640 of course, and we also have this this is kind 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.560 of breaking news, and you're getting at first, three Ohio companies, 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.120 you know, file a lawsuit challenging Governor to wines emergency 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.200 order to ban the sale of low level intoxicating him products, 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.680 namely those peltzers you like because they're infused with Delta eight. 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.520 And a lawsuit was enjoined by those companies and he 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.440 had a ninety day ban in effect, and that was 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.920 set aside. But guess what, we may have a resolution. 0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.640 We may have a resolution in this whole sort of 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.200 affair on that is Ohio Senator Steve Hoffman out of 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.480 just a Tip City. He's a physician by trade, but 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.720 also longtime lawmaker in the Senate. Steve, Good morning, Houses 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:39.000 Wednesday morning. Find you. 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.799 A beautiful day, beautiful day all as well. 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.200 I'm ready to go. How about you? 0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:44.360 So? 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.279 You sponsored Senate Bill fifty six that was the controversial 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.640 one overhauls of cannabis laws. Consolidates and revises a medical 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:56.520 and adult use marijuana regulations. Also establishes, in more importantly, 0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.640 a regulatory flame framework for all the stuff to work. 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.040 So all of a sudden time hemp comes along and 0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.320 people are going, oh, well, we can kind of milk 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.719 that hemp and get old thc out of it enough 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.480 to make an intoxicating beverage or edible or vape or 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.120 tincture or something along those lines. Unfortunate because it's not regulated. 0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.560 Some retailers, not a lot of them, but a number 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.640 of them, to take notice, are selling them the kids, 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.480 and we can't have that. I understand that whole thing. 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.000 I thought that the ninety day ban was all overreaching 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:28.480 when you're preventing adultsom enjoying. But again, the lawsuit forces 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.960 the hand, the Governor DeWine forces the hand, and the 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:34.359 end result is we're hearing that there's a sub bill 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.319 to be added to your Senate Bill fifty six. It 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.320 would add hemp regulation to it, kind of bringing everything 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.280 together in the same page. Is that The short story 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.040 is that the quick read the quick read. 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.439 I also had the Senate passed out my bill sent 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:50.520 Bill eighty six was on hemp, and basically what we 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.560 did was put all the intoxicating hemp into the dispensaries. 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.319 And that's where the two got put together. And we 0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:04.480 have one on marijuana, and and the House yesterday spoke 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:08.640 about you know, they passed out of committee basically changing 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:10.120 the hemp thing. 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.680 Yeah, so you can't you know, the idea of going 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.359 to a convenience store, be it anyone for that matter, 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.680 no idea whatsoever, you're going to buy something that can 0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.279 get you as intoxicated as as an adult beverage, you 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.399 need to be cardedt ID four at age twenty one. 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.280 That that didn't apply. It was kind of a loopholear 0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.760 that cleans all this up. So you won't see retailers carryouts, 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.520 roague carryouts for that matter, doing what we're talking about here, 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:33.319 because you can't have that. 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.080 And I agree with that, right, I mean, the overall 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.399 pemis is youre have to be twenty one you over 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:45.600 to buy it. Now, there's you know, the established as 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.760 a license where four hundred places that are already selling 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:54.399 this in eighty percent of their retail is him. They 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:59.320 will be able to continue to do this. But in here, 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:04.440 as as you've spoken before, and your wife enjoys the 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.600 cannabis strength, that you'd be able to sell the five 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:12.000 percent of the five milligrams of THHC and a bar, 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.000 but you would be able to as a carryout by 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:21.960 ten milligrams from that bar or from a liquor establishment 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:23.879 at twenty one and over. 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.680 Okay, so I again most people, myself included doctor, Really 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.920 I don't understand five milligrams and HAM two million. I 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.839 look at some gummies that are five MILLI not point five, 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.040 but five milligram or ten milligram gummies, which you certainly 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.680 can feel the effect of. From what I understand, the 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:43.240 point five seems rather low. Is there nothing point five milligrams? 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.920 And let's say a can of seltzer? How does that 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.879 compare to let's say a can of beer. As far 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.479 as the effect, I. 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:55.120 Think the effect of five milligrams is like a six 0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:59.439 percent bud, Like you know, you have one, Hey, you're 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.960 not going to really feel much of the fact. You know, 0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.880 two or three or four you may start getting intoxicated 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.200 and do funny things. 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.200 Yeah, okay, that makes sense. You drink three or four 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:10.640 of them, you're starting to feel the effects of it, 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:12.640 which you know you don't want to make it completely 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.680 alcohol or in this case THHC free because it defeats 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.160 the purpose if you're looking to, you know, maybe feel good. 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:19.719 And let's face a lot of people like to say, 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.680 I drink Why do I like craft beer? I like 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.279 the taste. Why do I like bourbon? I like the 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.680 taste of it? Most people drink it to get well 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.520 messed up. Let's let's just call it what it is 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.680 and a little chemical yoga. As long as you do 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.880 it in control, you're not driving who you hurt, and 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:33.680 except maybe yourself a little bit. Now, if it gets 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.160 to be a habit, different story. But nonetheless, these are 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.080 the vices which adults are allowed to enjoy in the 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.400 Buckeye State and across this country of our steef off men. 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.800 It fine with it, So that's good. Is there anything 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.000 in here? Is this gonna let's rewind You may not 0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.920 know the answer to this, but well, let's satisfy those 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:50.600 who the three companies that brought the suit in the 0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.200 first place. I mean, have you met with them? It's okay, 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.480 what are your grievances? And this addresses them and less 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:56.560 satisfy that lawsuit, so simply it goes away. 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.000 That's a good questions, There's some things in here that 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:06.160 bothers the industry. So one of the big thing about 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.520 the ballot in issues that has been a concern is 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.000 the monopoly that it could created so that anybody in 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.000 the industry got to stay in the industry. We're limiting 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:20.840 the number of marijuana dispensaries. Well, this bill does the 0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.680 same thing. So it only's going to provide four hundred 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.040 license to the four hundred people that are doing it now. 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.520 So if Scott Sloan said, I want to have the 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.120 hemp score, well, it would be very difficult for a 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.880 number of reasons. One, there's only there's no more licenses 0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:38.920 because we're giving them out to the people that are 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:43.000 already there. And number two, if there's a license, you're 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.480 going to stay seventy thousand dollars a year, and the 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.839 other guys that are already established or are are going 0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.960 to pay ten thousand or fifteen thousand for their license. 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.680 It doesn't really seem a capitalist thing that the pre 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.880 market that I mean, shouldn't we have let anybody that 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.680 provide the safe store to be able to sell it. 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.319 Yeah, that that seems reasonable to me, and I think 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:11.080 that's a reasonable suggestion. We'll see what the industry's reaction 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:11.400 to that. 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:11.640 Is. 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:13.920 But but at the same time, we're also limiting it 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.880 to like four hundred damp outlets across the state with 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.000 millions of people. You know, you talk about I guess 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.239 capitalism and and you know, having a market there. And 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.160 I think hemp dispensers can they can't be with like 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.239 a mile each other or something like that. Why why such, 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.040 Why the restrictions there? 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.319 You know, I think the House tried to model some 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:39.719 things that we did uh in in marijuana, and you know, 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:45.560 I think to prevent you don't want in downtown Cincinnati 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.560 every other store to be marijuana and hemp. And you know, 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.719 also in this bill, it allows the city townships to 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.600 say I just don't want hemp, I just don't want marijuana. 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:57.480 You can't come in, and that's. 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:01.080 Their right, but you know it would limit it that. 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.120 You know, a few months ago when I was testifying, 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.160 I kind of threw people for a loophole and I said, 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:11.680 I think we should deregulate marijuana within five years. Anybody 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.759 should be able to. I mean, if you can, if 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:17.080 you have the money, and you can provide a store 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:21.600 that's and process it and grow it properly and under 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:26.080 the surveillance of the Cannabis Commission, go at it. If 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.360 we really want to drive down prices and have a 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:33.360 free market, we should deregulate it. But that fell on 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:34.040 deaf ear. 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.560 One would think, because the market would control. But in 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.799 this case, you know, you have four hundred outlets for 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.200 a state that has damn near twelve million people. I'm 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.239 doing the math on that one. It doesn't math that much. Now. 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.840 Granted a lot of our state is rural, but I 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.640 just wonder if that's too few, how do you determine 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:49.960 that number. What's that even based on? 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:55.080 I think they looked at about how many stores are 0:43:55.120 --> 0:44:00.480 currently out there, and to hold it artificially low in 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:06.040 it benefits to current people, it does not benefit entrepreneurism out. 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:06.359 There at all. 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.080 Yeah, and you look at how little the stuff costs 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:10.960 in Michigan. It's because, man, I'll tell you, up there, 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.759 they have tons of it. Now, some may say, well 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.640 it's too much, but again you have a gold rush 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.560 and opportunity for entrepreneurs to get into the game, and 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:20.640 so you'll see a lot of storefronts. What happens generally 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.839 in the cycle of business then is those little fish 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.239 either can't figure out a business model to make it work, 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.160 they go out of business, which happens all the time 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.040 to natural cycle things, or they get successful and they 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.200 get bought up by bigger fish and eventually, you know, 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.080 you have a limited number of fish in the market 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.480 to control everything. So that but that's down the line, 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.400 and it seems like we're artificially blocking that market right there. 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.840 He is Ohio Senator Steve Hoffman on the show on 0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.200 seven hundred WW the good news about this band and 0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.520 how that affects you as if you enjoy the THHC 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.640 laced beverages like at fifty West, for example, the sunflower 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.880 products are really good. This is this is going to 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.680 allow this to continue to occur. So for example, our 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:04.439 friends fifty West or any local company around here, they say, listen, 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.640 our beer sales. Craft beer is kind of it's dwindling. 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:07.960 It's starting to go down. Numbers are going now. We 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.279 had peak craft beer, but so many more people now 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.640 are enjoying these THHG lays drinks. They're going to still 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.759 be able to sell them at a bar. The ones 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.600 with the higher amounts will have to be sold at 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:17.560 a carry out. 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:21.080 Correct more takeout from the bar. 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.359 Okay, So if you can't sell the. 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.279 Ten milligrams to drink for the bar. 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.080 You have to take that out. It's the way it's. 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.560 Currently written good because that was a concern. They're said, hey, listen, 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.239 craft beer is dying, and now you guys are going 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.560 to put this ninety day moratorium on creating crafting product 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.400 and selling it. I'm going to go out of business. 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.320 And fortunately, I think what the governor did, and I 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.879 disagree with holding up the children as a reason why 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:46.520 to do this an extreme example, but he did what 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.279 he set out to do and that has forced the 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.560 legislature and force the lawmakers in Columbus to act on 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:57.080 and do something about this loophole and specifically regulating this product. 0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.080 And I get if government comes in, we need to 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.480 regulate things and make sure it's safe and fair and 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.680 also make sure it's not falling in the hands of 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.960 the underage. And that's what regulatory regulatory framework does. I 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.799 understand that it's just manned the legislature dragging their feet 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.799 on this thing, and it makes no sense to me 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.480 because the end result is people wind up losing out. 0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:19.160 And also, you know, you're making business have to work 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.280 harder to work around the slow pace of the government. 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:26.040 I understand that fortunately we had in this case the 0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.440 legislature moving forward and saying, okay, we're going to come 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.799 up with some frameworks here and maybe this will work 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:31.480 out for everyone. 0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:31.880 You know. 0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:33.560 One of the other things I saw here, and I 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.040 saw kind of the outline of the of the code itself. 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:41.160 It allows this little municipalities, as you said, to ban 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:45.239 happen marijuana dispensers. For in Mason, for example, long ago 0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.440 they said we don't want this here, still not there. 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.600 But at the same time, it also prohibits them from 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.400 taxing these products. So is there a rationale there for 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:54.440 giving cities the power to ban but not the tax. 0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.239 We don't want to drive the price up from one. 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.719 He has always been the philosophy, especially on marijuana, that 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:08.600 if you you know, let them packed. You know, in 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.120 this bill, we're doing what the municipalities want. 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:13.200 Because if you go back to. 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:18.160 The Vallid initiative, the valid initiative taxed it at ten 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.200 percent and then put thirty six to the locals. But 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.840 there's a flaw in it that did not release the 0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.200 money to the locals. So over the last almost two 0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:30.359 years they haven't gotten the money. And so this bill 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:34.400 would keep that intact and then given a mechanism to 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:38.240 release the money. It would also add a ten percent 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:44.879 tax on a hint product. If that's constitutional. We're still 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.160 working through that because you're not allowed to tax things 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.279 from out of that come from out of state at 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:54.239 a higher rate and attack your own stuff as a 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:58.680 federal law. So we'll see if that that'll work out. 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.880 For us, all right, And then in the regulatory as mean, 0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.319 it's kind of wonky. I suppose as I've read through 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.799 the note on this and said, okay, well, we've got 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.160 these different regulatory frameworks, right, We've got the hemp dispensaries 0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:14.120 or under cannabis control, the drinkables under liquor control. Does 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.800 that create confusion and inefficiency? 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.279 It can? I mean, if you're a business that has 0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:24.080 two if you do, if you're if you're a hint 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.480 and you have gummies and all sorts of ointments and 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.240 stuff like that, and you also have beverages, you're answering 0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:34.160 to two masters. Now right right, it does. But you 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:38.239 look at it at Kroger's or a grocery store, you 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.799 know they have they have to facto license, they have 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:44.480 a liquor license, they have a pharmacy, they're they're answering 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:48.120 the multil a agencies in the state of Ohio and 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:52.840 federal agencies also. But sometimes that's that's the way it 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:56.400 works out. If that's the business line, you need one. 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.759 Of the other things in here. Steve Hoffmann relative to 0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.520 the regulatory structure, I was talking to our friends at 0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:03.680 fifty West about this after this ed it came down 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.520 from the governor of the ninety day ban and what 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.399 that would do to business, and it's horrible. So they're 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.879 they're they're cranking out the sunflower product right now, which 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:12.520 is what we're talking about, and a lot of people 0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:15.480 enjoy that. Of course, there's other brewers and manufacturers that 0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.759 do this locally, and God bless them because I like 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.080 when people make money. It makes them make pay taxes 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.480 and everybody's happy, especially when it's something leisurely and a 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:28.200 vice like drinking an adult beverage. So this will require 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:33.279 those companies, the cannabinoid manufacturers to have sales toritories for distributors, 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:38.400 kind of like alcohol distribution. Does that limit market efficiency 0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:40.239 and competition or is that like, hey, we do this 0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:42.520 for alcohols, would be fair to do it to these 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:43.279 products as well. 0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.480 Well, I think that was their philosophy. They do it 0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.400 for alcohol. You know, there's a thought that we should 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.839 to me, it's a disadvantage the vast majority that does 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:57.200 the hamp products in beverages or the craft brewers. And 0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:00.560 you look at ryan Geist there in Cincinnati, and I 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.359 don't know how many they do, but just say they're 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:04.920 going to do. They have you know, ten bars in 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.799 Cincinnati and twenty retail outlets that they sell it. They 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:11.359 would be more efficient to load their truck up at 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.239 their factory and drive to those places rather than to 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.920 take that truck to the distributor, which might be in 0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:22.880 Middletown and then that truck will then disperse thing to it. 0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:27.680 Certainly wouldn't be as efficient and probably cost effective. So 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:31.280 because it's they tend to be more on the smaller scale. 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.480 That's certainly not the Budweisers that are doing it. 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:37.279 All right, right, Steve Hoffman, all right, So this is 0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:40.160 just kind of like written in pencil, not pen yet. 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:42.200 What is the timeline for getting this done? You think 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:43.200 what happens next? 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.759 Well, the so. 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:49.839 The house passed it out. 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:53.280 You know, if we sent that over there in March 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.879 so they've been sitting on it for seven months. So 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.520 the inactivity was not from the from the from the 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:02.480 Senate standpoint. But I do not think that the Senate 0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:05.200 is going to agree with the current form. I think 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:07.799 probably in the next two or three weeks, you know, 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:13.920 certainly before Thanksgiving, we will sit down and take the 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:17.600 good on both sides and come up with something that 0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.600 both of us in the industry can is reasonable to 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:25.279 be safe and have an efficient industry here in the 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:25.880 state of Lahare. 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.880 So in the meantime, everything works away, it was working before. 0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:31.320 The good news is you don't know what about. 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:36.360 Right with with the with the temporary restraining order. Everything's 0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:37.160 working us before. 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:39.760 Yeah, and then you'll fill the void and we'll never notice, 0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:41.719 which is how I like things to work. It's like 0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.920 when my phone or my tablet or my computer updates. 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.360 It does it in the dark night when I'm dead asleep, Steve, 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.040 and I wake up, and everything's the way it should be. 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:50.280 That's what I want us. 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.680 Well, you you hope that's the way it works, because 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:55.080 you're in trouble. 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.480 Well, if next time we talk and we're talking about 0:51:57.480 --> 0:51:59.719 the blue screen of death and we've got a real 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:03.040 but hopefully all this happens behind the scene and you 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:04.800 can go to a bar or a restaurant in order to 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:09.040 your favorite CBD beverage. Steve Hoffman, Senator Steve Hoffman from 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.160 a Tip City, I appreciate your help on this too 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.080 and help them figure this out. It's a complex issue, 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:16.759 but we need more joy in life, not less joy. 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:20.080 But if you know drinking a THC infused seltzer is 0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.680 not your joy, well it certainly as someone else's, and 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.399 damn it as an American, as an Ohioan. I want 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:26.919 to fight and make sure and I know you do too, 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.240 that that people can do that and enjoy that, provided 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.359 they're twenty one or older and doing it responsibly. All 0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:33.759 the best to you, my friend. Thanks again, you take 0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:40.240 care of that. Take care, I say, more intoxicating beverages, edibles, tintures, vapes, 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:44.760 et cetera, not less. I'm on the pro chemical yoga 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.960 side of life. Were I'm a little eye voted sticker. Look, 0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:49.600 we got to get a news update. And why do 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:53.160 we enjoy adult beverages and other things that make us relaxed, 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.759 Well because of real life streussors. Biggest stress or we're 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.320 facing in Cincinnati. Of course, is what the hell is 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.680 happening with crime? I'm and the police chief and how 0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:05.959 is this whole thing handled by the way, I say 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:10.520 not well, I would say horribly by this administration. Julie Bouki, 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.359 our career, Shirpa spent a lifetime in HR. She knows 0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.799 all how this stuff should work, and when it doesn't work, 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:17.759 she pokes holes in it. She's going to do that. 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:21.120 Next is Julie on the job Scott's loan seven hundred WT. 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:29.040 Giving you a vocational leg up on everyone else. Here's 0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:31.520 our career, shirp on it. Julie Bouki. 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.799 Yeah, man, I always love it when a topic comes up, 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.680 something comes up that's ripped from the pages of today's headlines. 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.520 And of course that would be what's transpired here in 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.640 the last three days with the chief Terry Thiji. And 0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:47.120 she was summoned backed you may recall last week from Denver. 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.839 She's at a conference in Denver Police chiefs conference. They 0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:51.600 tell you got to get come back. We have urgent 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:55.479 business regarding the safety of Cincinnati. Now what in urgent 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:57.919 business I was? When no one knows because there's really 0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:01.200 nothing happening wasn't a shooting like we had a Fountain Square. 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.799 We had the Thursday night occurrence, but that was still 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.200 being investigated. It wasn't like a big mass casually event 0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:10.120 she had to come back for, thank god. And immediately 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:11.960 it got out that well, they're going to fire her, 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.040 and then it turned into a paid administrative leave and 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:18.319 there were no answers coming from city Hall relative to well, 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.520 what did she do or did she not do that 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.520 caused her her job essentially, and she's hanging limbo. She's 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:25.759 not been fired, she's still unpaid leave, although we have 0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.160 an interim chief that's in the fact right now and 0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:30.840 the end results are paying her. We had her attorneys 0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:33.680 speak live on the radio yesterday at ten am about 0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:37.200 what was transpiring that she actually had. There was no 0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:41.000 cause to do this whatsoever. She was always never really 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.600 anything bad in her record of thirty five years law enforcement. 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:46.360 She's the chief. We have a crime spree. But is 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.279 that relative to the policy set forth by this administration 0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:51.960 and draft at pure vault or is that Chief Thigi 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:54.680 to the point where what does chief interim Chief Henny 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.360 get you? That Chief Thiji doesn't get you, and no 0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.000 one can answer that question. It is a cluster bleief 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:03.640 and a dumpster fire and a tire fire all in one. 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.600 Julie Balk, Welcome back. Good to have you on. Julie 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.840 on the Job, our career SHIPA who is a licensed 0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:12.640 professional in the state of Human Resources, how are you? 0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:16.120 I would just say that I have opinions. I have 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:18.600 strong opinions that I'm not willing that I'm not unwilling 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:21.839 to that I'm not unwilling to share. So that's where 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:23.040 we are. And yeah, you're right. 0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:23.839 This is. 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:30.759 First of all, anytime you have something that happens at 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:34.080 this level in a city where everybody's got their hands 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.600 in the pie in terms of everybody has a stake. 0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:41.920 When you really think about there's the community, there's the government, 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:46.799 there's the FOP, there's you know, the police officers, there's 0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:51.120 there's all these different constituencies, the media, in the fact 0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.680 that we do have an election for mayor coming up 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:58.080 in two weeks, there's all of those things. It's almost 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:01.239 like they just get thrown into a call ldren using 0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:05.960 a Halloween theme and stirred up and so there are 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.239 there's so much we don't know here. What we do 0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:16.319 know is that the crime problem, whatever your perception of 0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:20.000 it is, is never just the fault of one person. 0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:23.319 But when you are the. 0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:28.000 Leader of an organization, of an organization, you will all 0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:32.120 you will often take the slings and arrows, whether you 0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:36.160 are beloved by your group or not. That's just the 0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:42.400 nature of being in a high level position, in a 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:46.040 high level position, in a high visibility role, where there 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:49.239 are so many different people with stakes in it, and 0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.320 it's you know, I was reading a bunch of stubbs 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.400 and watching a bunch of videos this morning in preparation 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.560 for this and was reminded that the city is still 0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.359 in an ongoing dispute with the past fire chief. Yep, 0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:03.080 and that's been continuing. 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.400 And Steven Ann, the guy who represents Terry Fiji, also 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.960 represents former chief Washington. So it's sound employment and it's 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.799 all battled out in the public eye, unlike typically where 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:16.120 we all work and where you work, if you're listening, 0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.000 there may be a regime change, there may be layoffs. 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:20.919 We just did that, and there's no easy way. We've 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.080 often talked about the fire people. You call in one 0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:25.320 at a time on firing day, and then you just 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.880 wait for your name to be called you bring everybody 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:29.800 in one big cattle call and fire group of people. 0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:32.800 That's in humane as well. There's no real good way 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.120 to do this. But the way this whole thing is handled, 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.240 because it's in the public eye, it's the government that 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.120 technically works for us because the people are the government 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:43.440 a lot. I'd safe to say every man and woman 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.840 who's following the story is not pleased at how it's 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:47.720 been handled so far. So this is a different thing. 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.200 And then, as you mentioned, politics are involved here too, 0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:52.760 because in an election coming up, how does this help 0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.400 have to add peival to get re elected or doesn't it. 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:57.200 I think he thinks he's got in the bag. It 0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:00.440 really doesn't matter. I'm just curious to see what happens 0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:02.960 at this point. Let's get into that, Julie. If you're 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:06.120 on Terry's team, Terry Thiji, what are you going to 0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:07.360 get out of this? You're not going to get your 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:08.120 job back, are you? 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:09.760 Yeah? 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:13.200 So if she were sitting with me right now, and 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.960 I've met her several times, you know, but if she 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:21.400 was sitting asking my advice, very she's asking my advice, 0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:22.920 that's what I would say. I said, what do you 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.520 want out of this? If you get your job back, 0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:32.000 it's going to be under incredibly increased scrutiny and attention. 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:34.000 You're going to be put. 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:38.080 Back into your job against the wishes of the people 0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:41.440 who are responsible for hiring and firing, which you know 0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:44.080 since two thousand and one that falls under the city manager. 0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:47.880 And so what what are you trying to get out 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:49.920 of this? I don't get the sense. And this is 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.440 just me kind of reading between the lines, which is 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.560 a little dangerous, but is that It's not about she's 0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:02.080 trying to get some big severance package. It's about I 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:07.920 am being targeted for something that is not that of 0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:11.520 course I have some responsibility for, but it's not entirely 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:16.120 my responsibility. There are when you look at these problems 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.120 that have come up, And I just want to say 0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:20.880 that last night I lived downtown and last night I 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:22.920 was out walking around and it was dark, and I 0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:26.120 was down by Fountain Square and I saw no less 0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:28.560 than twelve police officers, no less. I was counting them, 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.640 which then made me say, Okay, we know there's a 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:35.600 staffing shortage, we know where are they not showing up 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:38.480 where they need to be showing up. And so I'm 0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:42.800 very sympathetic to It's not her fault. It's not the 0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:45.560 officers on the street. They can't be everywhere at once. 0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.960 It's not all the mayor's fault. There's a lot of 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.720 responsibility that lies in the home and with the community. 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:55.919 And any time you have something like this that's such 0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:59.520 a hot potato, you've got Corey Bowman, the other candidate 0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:04.760 for mayor, chiming in. It's it's almost like, and I 1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:08.560 hate to say this, but in almost every situation, even 1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:13.240 in a corporate situation, someone is going to take the fall. 1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:14.000 Is it right? 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:18.120 No, of course not, but it is. It is what 1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.840 it is. And I was thinking about this because when 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.280 I went back when I was in HR, we had 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.160 this guy who he has passed away, so I always 1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:28.200 feel like I can tell the story freely. He ran 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:31.720 the department, and he was just a massive creep, like 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:36.440 Harvey Weinstein creep, and everybody knew it's but his numbers 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:38.960 were really good, his results were really good, and so 1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:42.600 nobody everyone was like, uh huh, huh uh huh when 1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.160 you try to say, here's what's going on. And he 1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:47.840 was supposed to lose Cannon in so many different ways, 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:53.120 and nobody wanted to hear it because the train was 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:54.880 running on the tracks at least from. 1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:55.680 A results point. 1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:58.760 The minute the train started go off the tracks, he 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:02.680 became enemy member one and he was fired. I'm like, Okay, 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:07.920 you're the same guy doing the same creepy thing today 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:10.200 that you were yesterday. But now all of a sudden, 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:14.560 you know it's a problem. And so when you know so, 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:17.440 it's it's human nature. Whether you're in the police department 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:22.760 or Kroger or anywhere, look at look at the top 1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:26.640 person is always in the crosshairs. And you know, I 1:01:26.720 --> 1:01:29.600 was reading through all these things, listening to people's comments, 1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:32.240 people in the community, and there's a lot of support 1:01:32.320 --> 1:01:35.080 for her in the community talking about her policing style. 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:40.120 But I also saw some videos from you know, our 1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:45.720 buddy Ken Cober talking about his funds for the interim chief, 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:49.920 Adam Henny. So that availed message that says, wow, we're 1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:53.160 so glad to have Adam Henny because maybe the leader 1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:56.560 of the rank and file in the FOP didn't respect 1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:59.720 her as a leader, and the city saying ineffective leadership, 1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:03.760 and so if you're going to lead with that as 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.680 a as a reason, then you've got to be able 1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:09.720 to back that up when this goes to court, because it. 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:14.080 Will well there's there's the thing is Julie Balgare curusher. 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:16.800 But Julie on the job this morning, every Wednesday morning, 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:19.400 this time with Solny on seven hundred WLW was the 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.160 biggest story. Of course, that would be Terry Figi and 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:23.280 this is perfect for her because it is hr and 1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:25.600 how it's mishandled and how no one knows why the 1:02:25.640 --> 1:02:28.920 reasons why Chief Thiji was well not even fired at this. 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:32.600 That's the other thing is paid administrative leave. If you're fired, 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:35.440 you're fired. Why why don't they just drop the X 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:38.120 and say okay, it's now Adam Henny. That's another thing 1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:39.600 is why prolong this? 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:43.880 You know? And I don't. The thing we don't know 1:02:43.960 --> 1:02:47.560 what are the terms of the contract. Someone did say 1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:52.280 that in the contract she a couple of sayings that 1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:55.000 she's entitled to if she were to leave, and I 1:02:55.000 --> 1:02:59.440 don't think se is mentioned, so it could be. And 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:03.760 this is weird where this is what the previous fire chief. 1:03:05.000 --> 1:03:07.960 One of his claims is I did not get due process. Okay, 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:10.680 so what does that look like? And so you can 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:13.560 either when it comes to what is due process. Let's 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:16.800 say for firing a police chief, for a fire chief. 1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:18.440 Let's just pull this out of the air, because that's 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:20.160 what we've got in front of it. What does that 1:03:20.200 --> 1:03:23.160 look like? What does due process look like? My opinion 1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:25.480 of it might be very different from yours. So is 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:30.200 that review of all of the reasoning and the evidence, 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:35.040 bipartisan committee? Is that a period of time in which 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:37.720 people get to get their act together, like maybe sixty days, 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:40.800 where people can gather their thoughts. So what is the purpose? 1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:43.720 There has to be a purpose. I don't know if 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:47.040 they thought when she was being put on paid administrative 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:50.120 leave that she would quit, but they had to know 1:03:51.240 --> 1:03:55.760 that this was coming no big surprise. And so from 1:03:55.760 --> 1:03:59.360 a strategy standpoint, if you're the city, you have to 1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:01.360 get in the room with all the people who have 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:04.880 their fingers in this and say, okay, so what does 1:04:04.920 --> 1:04:07.040 the contract say? Are we living by the terms of 1:04:07.080 --> 1:04:09.960 the contract? And do we generally operate? 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:10.240 So? 1:04:10.560 --> 1:04:14.400 Are we generally operating the same with everybody? 1:04:14.480 --> 1:04:14.800 Yes? 1:04:15.120 --> 1:04:16.120 Are we being fair? 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:19.280 What is our evidence that she's an ineffective leader? Who 1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:22.360 says so? And why now not? 1:04:22.960 --> 1:04:26.240 What's the evaluation? And it's like, if she's enforcing the 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:28.720 policies that our policies are placed in by the people 1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:31.680 above her, and she just enforces the policies and the 1:04:31.720 --> 1:04:33.920 dictates of the office, so she doesn't control that. But 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:35.560 we know that in politics there's a lot of people 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:37.680 that follow the sword for the people above them, and 1:04:37.720 --> 1:04:40.240 then they're made whole later when no one's paying attention, 1:04:40.280 --> 1:04:42.840 and God only knows what that includes. But I also 1:04:42.920 --> 1:04:45.640 heard too that there is no non disclosure agreement here, 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:47.720 so you got to get her to sign an NDA. 1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:51.240 And as you know, NDAs can be costly because if 1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:54.560 your chief theeves, you probably know some things and have 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:58.960 evidence that are going to make the administration, namely share 1:04:59.080 --> 1:05:02.120 long the city manage and most likely have to appear 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:04.240 of all but others. You've got some dirt there, and 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:06.480 and to make people like this shut up, you got 1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:09.200 to cut them a big check. So the question is, Julie, 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:11.360 how big a check are we talking? And am I 1:05:11.400 --> 1:05:13.360 wrong about that analysis? 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:18.360 No, no, you're not wrong. I think the decision before 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:21.760 anything happens, before you say get back from Denver today 1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:26.160 instead of two days from now, which seems like why arbitrary? 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:27.000 It's arbitrary. 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:30.000 Yeah, you have to say, Okay, what's worst case? 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:30.240 Here? 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:33.960 What it's worst case she sueses, all this stuff becomes public. 1:05:34.320 --> 1:05:37.640 How do we Because if you didn't think she was 1:05:37.680 --> 1:05:39.120 going to file a lawsuit. 1:05:38.800 --> 1:05:41.360 You have not been paying attention, right because. 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:44.360 It's and so I don't I don't know. I mean, 1:05:44.400 --> 1:05:48.280 it's just it makes the way it looks and I 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:50.919 always say, Okay, we don't know everything, but the way 1:05:51.000 --> 1:05:54.600 it looks to the community is there's this handle in 1:05:54.640 --> 1:05:59.000 a chaotic manner and a non thoughtful man that brings 1:05:59.040 --> 1:06:03.840 in the bring that considers all the possible outcomes. Because 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:06.840 now you potentially have her and a lawsuit sitting out 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:10.720 there next to Michael Washington's lawsuit, which you've been going 1:06:10.800 --> 1:06:15.120 on for years now. And now what if they have 1:06:15.600 --> 1:06:18.040 if they end up for a seventh tape? Where's that 1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:19.320 where's that money coming from? 1:06:19.520 --> 1:06:21.200 Yeah? I don't know how much longer you can delay. 1:06:21.240 --> 1:06:22.720 You you've been on that side of the desk of 1:06:22.720 --> 1:06:25.560 the NDAs and stuff in this for anyone listening. If 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:28.760 they trace you get fired normally, here's your check, here's 1:06:28.800 --> 1:06:31.080 your two weeks, two months, two years, whatever it is. 1:06:31.080 --> 1:06:32.320 This is what you're in tel We'll give you this 1:06:32.360 --> 1:06:35.280 in exchange for this check. Here's this check. Uh, and 1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:36.960 now you just lost your job. You don't have the 1:06:36.960 --> 1:06:39.280 future holds. You're probably scared to death. That's they've got 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:41.520 you in a vulnerable position, which is terrible from a 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:46.240 negotiation standpoint. But isn't this like just like a contract negotiation, 1:06:46.400 --> 1:06:49.080 the NDA period where you know, if you sign this, 1:06:49.120 --> 1:06:51.480 we'll give you your your two week severance right now. 1:06:52.120 --> 1:06:54.440 Don't sign the check that you can negotiate all that, 1:06:54.480 --> 1:06:54.800 can't you? 1:06:56.600 --> 1:07:00.400 Sometimes, so an NDA is most often you so that 1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:04.960 you don't disclose company secrets. I'm going from one company 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:07.840 to a competitor, And sometimes there will be like a 1:07:07.920 --> 1:07:10.880 non compete which says you can't work in this market 1:07:10.920 --> 1:07:13.800 for six months or you can't work with people who 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:17.640 are direct competitors for twelve months. So that's general, there's 1:07:17.640 --> 1:07:19.280 a non compete, But then there's also a lot of 1:07:19.280 --> 1:07:22.920 times an NDA, which means you're not going to run 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:25.840 over to even if you don't go work for a competitor, 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:27.959 you're not going to call them up and say, hey, 1:07:28.480 --> 1:07:30.200 I got a bunch of company secrets here I'm going 1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:33.400 to share with you. So those are to me especially 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:37.760 if NDA is very reasonable, now when and quus it? 1:07:37.840 --> 1:07:37.920 Now? 1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:39.800 Again, I'm not an attorney. This is just based on 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:42.120 you know, go to what I've seen. When you say, 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:46.960 when you say so, then they'll they'll look at if 1:07:47.000 --> 1:07:51.320 I said no non compete for two years? Does that 1:07:51.880 --> 1:07:55.320 interfere with your ability to make a living? And in 1:07:55.320 --> 1:07:56.360 a lot of cases it does. 1:07:56.520 --> 1:07:57.520 Two years is too long. 1:07:58.000 --> 1:08:00.520 So NDA they had in it a non dis paragement 1:08:00.520 --> 1:08:04.360 clause which says you will not speak ill of this company. 1:08:04.400 --> 1:08:07.400 And a lot of big companies, a lot of women 1:08:07.480 --> 1:08:09.920 back when all this me too stuff was going on 1:08:10.080 --> 1:08:12.880 was really coming out, they got big payouts and they 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:15.920 find an NDA they would not dispair it. 1:08:15.920 --> 1:08:18.160 But it's a big payout. The question is how big 1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:21.120 a payout, meaning how much money are the taxpayer is 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:23.640 going to have to foot the bill for this malfeasance 1:08:23.680 --> 1:08:24.440 and incompetence. 1:08:25.800 --> 1:08:28.240 Yeah, so I don't I think it could have been 1:08:28.280 --> 1:08:31.519 handled better. But I also say that because I also 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:34.679 am always very careful because we don't know the whole 1:08:34.720 --> 1:08:39.759 story from from we don't know everything. We can only take. 1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:40.080 Which put out. 1:08:40.120 --> 1:08:42.519 But then again the other time, that is if you're 1:08:43.000 --> 1:08:46.439 out there, if you're a manager. You have to so 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:51.280 carefully manage what you put out, what you say. Everybody 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:53.880 has to be on the same page, and you have 1:08:54.040 --> 1:08:56.519 to anticipate all these things and be ready for you. 1:08:57.400 --> 1:08:59.800 If not, you just have a dumpster fire. 1:09:00.200 --> 1:09:02.479 I'll leave it at that. The problem is politics, and 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:04.679 of course you know, people just continue to vote blue 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:07.160 in Hamblin County and get what they get, and the 1:09:07.160 --> 1:09:09.920 same people complain about the people who voted red. And 1:09:10.000 --> 1:09:12.599 we had protests down at the riverfront this weekend over, 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:15.080 but turn that mirror around. How much of the parallels, 1:09:15.080 --> 1:09:17.120 how much stuff you bitching about Trump is a to 1:09:17.120 --> 1:09:20.320 have pure vault doing. There's there's there's the ven diagram, 1:09:20.479 --> 1:09:23.160 there's some carryover. Julie Balkie, Julie on the job every 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:25.840 Wednesday morning. She's at the Bouki Group b a UK 1:09:26.120 --> 1:09:28.960 career coach and Consultants b a UK is how you 1:09:29.000 --> 1:09:31.439 spelled her name, by the barkiegroup dot com. She got 1:09:31.439 --> 1:09:32.880 a whole team ready to go to work for you. 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:34.840 Have a great week. We'll talk next Wednesday. By then 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:36.760 we probably still won't have this thing settled. We'll talk 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:38.960 about it one more. We'll just read. We'll just rehash 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:41.439 us for the next three Wednesdays to decide what they're doing. 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:43.479 Fair enough, be well, take care, thank you. Got to 1:09:43.479 --> 1:09:45.880 get to a news update. It's a Scott Sloan show 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:47.720 on the home of the Best Bengals coverage Ring of 1:09:47.760 --> 1:09:50.880 Honor week in Cincinnati on seven hundred w Do you 1:09:51.000 --> 1:09:55.439 want to be idiot? Hi's Scott's flowing on seven hundred 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:58.800 WLWN streaming on the iHeartRadio ADNEC. Sure you take us 1:09:58.800 --> 1:10:01.200 through the dow where you are there, We got you, 1:10:01.320 --> 1:10:05.040 We got you all right, Fiji talk. We continue that 1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:07.719 and that has really overshadowed things for most of the week, 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:10.400 at least this early half of the week. But we 1:10:10.479 --> 1:10:14.439 also have other things going on, trouble brewing here on 1:10:14.560 --> 1:10:16.240 It's been kind of going on well for the last 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:18.200 few days here, starting the last week. Clarmont kind of 1:10:18.240 --> 1:10:22.000 Republican Dave Young's office is investigating the image of an 1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:24.879 American flag with the stripes bent to form of swastika. 1:10:24.880 --> 1:10:26.960 I'm sure you saw the images by now that was 1:10:27.000 --> 1:10:30.839 caught an Cameron a zoom meeting in this congressional staffer's office. 1:10:31.560 --> 1:10:34.519 So next to the shutdown, this political scandal is kind 1:10:34.560 --> 1:10:36.880 of consuming Washington, not just what it's going on in 1:10:36.960 --> 1:10:40.040 Dave Young's office, but the what almost three thousand pages 1:10:40.080 --> 1:10:42.240 of eleak chats revealing that the leaders and the Young 1:10:42.280 --> 1:10:46.560 Republicans traded a bunch of pretty horrific words and statements 1:10:46.680 --> 1:10:48.479 which they thought would never make the eye of pub 1:10:48.600 --> 1:10:51.479 the light of public eye, seeing the light, so to speak. 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:55.320 It was in chambers, and it was in a chat group, 1:10:55.600 --> 1:10:57.759 and yet we've seen stuff like this leak out before. 1:10:58.520 --> 1:11:01.519 The problem is, again, just if you're you know, don't 1:11:01.600 --> 1:11:03.920 like the GOP, you don't like Republicans, you don't like Trump, 1:11:04.160 --> 1:11:06.080 this just gives you more ammo to hate on them, 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:08.479 and you wonder what the reaction is is this whole thing. 1:11:08.520 --> 1:11:11.440 You've got some of these GOP Young GOP chapters disbanding 1:11:11.439 --> 1:11:14.040 within hours because of this. And I know the Vice 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:16.719 President Jade Vance brushed it off as kids being edgy, 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:20.000 but there's some bipartisan outrage out there, and when you 1:11:20.000 --> 1:11:22.479 have bipartisanship in a divided government, that says a lot. 1:11:22.479 --> 1:11:25.920 Her name is Victoria Churchill. She's a political reporter for 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:28.679 dailymail dot Com first broke the key details of this story. 1:11:28.720 --> 1:11:31.240 She's also writes your young voices. Victoria, welcome, how are you. 1:11:32.320 --> 1:11:35.080 Hi, good morning, Thanks so much to be thank you 1:11:35.040 --> 1:11:36.479 so much for having me. Great to be honest with you. 1:11:37.320 --> 1:11:40.200 And it's interesting to watch how this is breaking. Republicans 1:11:40.200 --> 1:11:44.040 across the country are confronting whether to denounce this or 1:11:44.080 --> 1:11:46.559 deflect it, and we're seeing it kind of break both 1:11:46.560 --> 1:11:50.200 ways right now, because some are going, well, this is 1:11:50.200 --> 1:11:52.280 the worst thing ever. Others are going, well, yeah, but 1:11:52.320 --> 1:11:56.760 the Democrats did this, And the problem for Republicans is 1:11:56.800 --> 1:11:59.439 it just gives more ammo to Democrats who say, well, 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:01.479 this is what you wind up voting for. It's all 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:02.280 white supremacy. 1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:06.320 Well, you know, I just want to start off by 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:09.559 saying the political rhetoric needs to be toned down on 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:10.519 both sides of the aisle. 1:12:10.600 --> 1:12:11.880 I think that's something. 1:12:12.280 --> 1:12:15.760 We're seeing, and you know, especially after the assassination and 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:17.280 you know, of course, let's call it what it is, 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:18.640 assassination of Charlie. 1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:20.960 Kirk the last month. Yeah, we need. 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.960 To tone down the rhetoric. However, I do want to 1:12:23.960 --> 1:12:26.600 point out a key differences between the general factors of 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:31.160 the picular office, so you know, the young Republicans and 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:33.960 just to be clear for your audience. Young Republicans are 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:36.559 between the ages of eighteen and forty, so you know, 1:12:36.640 --> 1:12:39.320 I know, Vice President of Fans tried to brush them 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:41.640 off as college kids. These are not college kids, at 1:12:41.720 --> 1:12:44.280 least not most of them. Most of them have jobs. 1:12:44.320 --> 1:12:47.040 Some of them pull elected office, others serve as very 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:51.080 secret positions or other elective members or you know, I 1:12:51.080 --> 1:12:54.960 guess it's before they were fired resigned. However, you want 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:57.080 to frame that they are no longer than the position. 1:12:57.960 --> 1:13:00.479 And I think that's the very key part of this 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:03.439 is because when we compare this as the Vice President did, 1:13:03.479 --> 1:13:04.880 which you know, I think is more or less a 1:13:04.920 --> 1:13:08.320 fair comparison. Comparing this to the j Jones tex scandal 1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:10.960 that we're dealing with in Virginia. I love in Virginia. 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.360 I cover some Virginia politics. Of course. That was the 1:13:13.600 --> 1:13:17.280 Democrat candidate for attorney general. He had some text messages 1:13:17.320 --> 1:13:20.280 revealed that he, you know, wish death not only on 1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:24.280 his opponent Ben Todds, Speaker or then House Speaker Todd Gilbert, 1:13:24.320 --> 1:13:26.680 the Republican Speaker of the House in a couple of 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:29.439 years ago in Virginia, but also on his children, which 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:31.960 you know, to me, that's even more disgusting if you 1:13:31.960 --> 1:13:35.759 can even agree that kind of thing. But you know, again, 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:38.720 j Jones is still running for office, and he's been 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:42.720 backed up by senior Democrats. But I believe both of 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:48.360 our US senators in Virginia, Kim Kaine, Mark Warner, they're 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:50.479 really egging him on. They're saying, yeah, the text are bad, 1:13:50.680 --> 1:13:52.880 but they still want this man to hold elected office. 1:13:53.280 --> 1:13:55.639 On the Republican side, Republicans have come out and said, 1:13:55.880 --> 1:13:59.960 these people are not representative of our party, deserve a 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:02.840 place in leadership, if the thing at all, because a 1:14:02.880 --> 1:14:05.760 lot of the times, the young Republican chasters, like I said, 1:14:05.760 --> 1:14:07.720 you know, a lot of them hold elected office or 1:14:07.760 --> 1:14:10.080 work for elected officials, but even more of them. You know, 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:12.479 it's supposed to be kind of a talent pipeline for 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:16.599 Republican leaders of Publican candidates all over the country. Really, 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:18.800 and you know, I think that that's part of why 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:23.599 the story is so big, is that you have dangerous 1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:26.519 ideologies on both sides. That of course, I'm all for 1:14:26.520 --> 1:14:30.280 free speech, right, but you know, I think in a 1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:34.320 free speech situation, this is actually better because people can speak, really, 1:14:34.400 --> 1:14:37.599 and then people can judge these individuals that say things 1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:41.360 that you know, I personally find morally reprehensible, abhorrent all 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:42.840 those things. 1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:45.559 Right, I think, and I think, you know jd Vance 1:14:45.640 --> 1:14:47.320 is he's right about one thing he says, I refuse 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:49.760 to join the pro clutching when powerful people call for 1:14:49.800 --> 1:14:53.160 political violence. You know, the what about ism as you 1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:55.479 mentioned in politics, that what about as it means once 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:58.599 that always downplays what they're sick of fans do as 1:14:58.600 --> 1:15:01.040 they rail against their enemies. When they do it, you know, 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:05.440 on the left, embracing anti Semitism for example, or Kirk's assassination, 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:08.240 how is this any different? And so I think when 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:10.599 that happens on both sides, as you mentioned, I think 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:12.679 the rest of the electorate, most of us go, well, 1:15:13.200 --> 1:15:15.200 if you're not going to change it, we can't change 1:15:15.200 --> 1:15:17.880 it either. And it's just the latest insult I suppose 1:15:17.960 --> 1:15:22.200 to our sensibilities and tolerances, and we're I don't see 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:24.160 it getting better. I just see this being more the same. 1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:29.320 Well, you know again, I think sunlight is the best disinfected. 1:15:30.080 --> 1:15:32.759 I think the only way to get what I consider 1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:36.639 to be bad ideas out is to talk about them, 1:15:36.680 --> 1:15:41.639 and is to have conversations, you know, publicized and again, 1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:44.479 views that I think should not really have grounding in 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:47.200 our political rhetoric today. The only way to get them 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:50.640 out is to have these conversations. Now kind of on 1:15:50.680 --> 1:15:52.680 the flip side. Actually, some of my reporting that I 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:56.800 did on the text method scandal was that, at least 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.000 by the evidence that I've seen and that my colleagues 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:04.479 put into that story, these texts were actually coerced and so, 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:07.280 you know, there may have been some very shady kind 1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:10.520 of back room feeling. You know, one of the individuals, 1:16:10.920 --> 1:16:12.719 he has come out with an illegal off of David 1:16:13.280 --> 1:16:16.200 which is available. You know that he was basically coerced 1:16:16.200 --> 1:16:20.840 into releasing these text messages. And you know, again I 1:16:20.920 --> 1:16:22.840 think that's the other side of it, which we should 1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:25.840 also talk about, is that doing it is one thing, 1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:30.840 which again I denounced wholeheartedly, but coercing somebody to get 1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:36.200 that information out is so in my view not Okay, Yeah, 1:16:36.240 --> 1:16:36.839 that's interesting. 1:16:36.920 --> 1:16:38.720 Is one may ask, well, how did all this I mean, 1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:40.799 it's been over for a few years. Here you're talking 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:43.840 twenty eight thousand messages. Wow, months, I guess they show 1:16:43.840 --> 1:16:48.320 twenty thousand message over seven months. That's a lot of 1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:50.920 information get dumped and all of a sudden somebody turns 1:16:50.920 --> 1:16:53.759 and says, hey, we've got all this stuff. That feels 1:16:53.800 --> 1:16:55.719 like the reason why someone would say this is because 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:59.080 either they are outed or discovered, or someone had some 1:16:59.160 --> 1:17:02.400 information since and knew this was going on and basically 1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:04.439 wanted to expose in blackmail them in a way. Is 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:05.559 that kind of what you're talking about. 1:17:06.720 --> 1:17:09.080 Yeah, Again, that's the evidence that I've seen leads me 1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.680 to have that conclusion. Again, that legal Affidavid as well 1:17:11.720 --> 1:17:14.240 as you have some conversations I've had to have disease. Obviously, 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:17.960 don't want to out anybody on there, you know, because 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:19.760 I was able to kind of you know, conceal their 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:22.280 identities for the purposes of the story and my reporting. 1:17:23.520 --> 1:17:25.559 But yeah, you know, it does really seem to me, 1:17:25.800 --> 1:17:27.760 like you know, of course the people that said it 1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:32.720 are are horrible in doing that. But again, I think 1:17:32.880 --> 1:17:35.839 the blackmail that led to the release of these text messages, 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:38.599 and that you know, in our digging, we found out 1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:43.559 that actually these text messages got out in August and 1:17:43.640 --> 1:17:47.360 there was effort within the GOP to you know, stem, 1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.200 if not completely, kind of nullify the release of these 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:53.240 because it seems to me, again at least based on 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:55.920 my reporting that I've done that it was really a 1:17:56.320 --> 1:18:00.919 personally motivated attack from one individual to another. One individual 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:04.080 described this, you know, kind of as a vendetta that 1:18:04.160 --> 1:18:07.599 the person who either directly or indirectly you lead these 1:18:07.640 --> 1:18:12.439 messages was responsible for. And you know, again that kind 1:18:12.439 --> 1:18:16.080 of raises the question of you know, who do you trust, 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:20.080 who do you trust to go out and have conversations with, 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:24.080 because you never know when not a person might stab 1:18:24.200 --> 1:18:25.599 you in the back and release things. 1:18:25.640 --> 1:18:25.840 You know. 1:18:26.000 --> 1:18:28.120 Again, of course I personally think that they should have 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:32.280 never been said in the first place. But well, now 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:33.439 is also pretty discossed. 1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:35.479 I think, Victoria Church, I think both things can be true. 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:37.639 That this could be blackmail, that could be I don't know, 1:18:37.680 --> 1:18:39.760 maybe a relationship gone wrong and said hey, I got 1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:41.599 the goods on you and trying to hold someone hostage. 1:18:41.600 --> 1:18:44.840 That's that's criminal as well. But also that can be 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:47.160 true the fact that the twenty thousand messages had a 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:49.719 lot of vile things on there when you start talking 1:18:49.720 --> 1:18:53.519 about you know, calling Generation Z Generation icon and one 1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:55.560 staff or from a i think New York State and 1:18:55.600 --> 1:18:58.439 Assembly members chief of staff got fired for saying I 1:18:58.439 --> 1:19:01.320 love Hitler and then everyone votes know on this particular 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:03.040 bill is going to the gas chamber, and there are 1:19:03.080 --> 1:19:05.680 far worse things in there that I can't repeat. And 1:19:06.240 --> 1:19:08.000 there's some threads you look at you go, wow, that's 1:19:08.120 --> 1:19:11.120 that's pretty harsh. But out of those twenty eight thousand, 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:14.679 I'll back up a second, because I think that Assembly member, 1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:17.519 that chief of staff and others are going, well, I'm 1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:19.160 not even sure I said that. I think it might 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:21.759 have been doctored or altered that some of the claims 1:19:21.800 --> 1:19:25.919 going on. Is that revisionism or is there some possible 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:28.320 basis in reality in that it sounds like we're going, No, 1:19:28.479 --> 1:19:30.439 that didn't really It sounds like my pillow guy kind 1:19:30.439 --> 1:19:31.200 of talk, you know what I mean. 1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:34.880 So I think the fact that he has taken responsibility 1:19:34.920 --> 1:19:37.240 for that is good. I also know that the way 1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:40.719 that those messages came out in that original political story 1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:44.320 is that, you know, I guess when you download a 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:47.960 history of messages from telegram, they do not come out, 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:49.519 you know, and kind of the way that they were 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:51.799 portrayed in the story, or when you look at text messages, 1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:54.760 you know, between people, and so the actual images that 1:19:54.800 --> 1:19:57.720 we're in that political article are recreations and you know, 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:00.880 I think they've been pretty forward about that. And you know, 1:20:00.880 --> 1:20:04.040 even an information that's come back since then, allegedly a 1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:07.840 text message leaks between the reporter that was working on 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:10.439 this story and the individual you know again who I 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:13.439 believe is responsible for getting this information out. You know, 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:18.200 like I said, whether directly or indirectly, those actual images 1:20:18.240 --> 1:20:21.800 are recreations, and so I don't know it's out of 1:20:21.840 --> 1:20:24.920 twenty thousand messages if they are direct. 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:26.360 Recreations, gotcha. 1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:29.800 Yeah, And I guess that's probably parsing a little bit, going, well, 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:31.960 these aren't the actual well, of course not, because the 1:20:32.000 --> 1:20:34.440 graphics have to look better, and it's also being condensed 1:20:34.479 --> 1:20:36.599 for the reader. I mean, you read through twenty eight 1:20:36.600 --> 1:20:38.960 thousand messages. I'm not sure of all of them rose 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:40.759 to the level of what we're talking about here. Probably 1:20:40.800 --> 1:20:42.120 most of it was pretty boring stuff. 1:20:43.200 --> 1:20:46.599 Yeah, absolutely, And again you know, recreating text messages, it's 1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:49.760 the context of sital journalism is not in itself nefarious, 1:20:49.880 --> 1:20:52.679 like we've you know, actually on this geos Tex scandal, 1:20:53.040 --> 1:20:55.400 we did a follow up story that was told to 1:20:55.439 --> 1:20:58.479 me by a grassroots group at activin Virginia. They had 1:20:58.479 --> 1:21:01.639 been out get out the vote. Text message is about 1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:04.320 the Jjo's tex scandal to what they identified as a 1:21:04.439 --> 1:21:07.439 universe of soft Democrat voters, and they got death threats 1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:11.320 to the Republicans back to those Jajones text messages, and 1:21:11.360 --> 1:21:13.760 we did a story recreitting those responses that they got, 1:21:13.800 --> 1:21:17.639 so again kind of in itself out as the area 1:21:17.840 --> 1:21:20.880 and you know, yeah, yeah, we've recreated text messages. They've 1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:23.559 recreated text messages. It's just that nasty text messages. 1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:24.320 It's all. 1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:26.400 It's all, you know, there's definitely a lot of thinking 1:21:26.439 --> 1:21:27.040 to be done a bit. 1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:29.479 Yeah, Yeah, you're highlighting the juicy parts of the novel, 1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:31.160 is what you're doing here. You're not you're trying to 1:21:31.200 --> 1:21:33.000 manipulate it or anything like that. You're just trying to 1:21:33.520 --> 1:21:35.920 cut to the chase, give me the story. Not all 1:21:35.960 --> 1:21:38.200 twenty eight thousand were bad, but certainly enough of them 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:40.559 none to make this into a story. Do you think 1:21:40.560 --> 1:21:44.320 that the shutdown helps or hurts that the focus the 1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:47.439 narrative this? I mean, because the shutdown is such a story, 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:49.960 does this overshadow what you're reporting here? Or is it 1:21:49.960 --> 1:21:52.599 the other way around? Because nothing's happening DC that people 1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:53.560 are paying attention. 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:57.000 To this well, I will say from my personal bandwidth 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:59.559 as a reporter that is typically on Capitol Hill, I've 1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:01.760 been report on this because I'm not covering day to 1:22:01.800 --> 1:22:04.240 day goings on on Capitol Hill. So you know, for 1:22:04.560 --> 1:22:06.600 me personally, I've been able to shift my attention to 1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:09.519 covering this. I think it is, you know, equally as 1:22:09.560 --> 1:22:12.760 important because you know, one is the now of our politics. 1:22:12.760 --> 1:22:14.559 One is the future of our politics or the US 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:16.600 in Virginia. You know, ballants that are being cast for 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:20.120 these candidates right now, and again see of these individuals 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:22.760 that were involved in the Younger lookin Tech scandal, they 1:22:22.840 --> 1:22:27.879 also are people that serve in positions that are politically important, 1:22:28.200 --> 1:22:30.600 whether that's in their home states in New York or 1:22:30.640 --> 1:22:33.519 their places around the country. So, you know, in terms 1:22:33.560 --> 1:22:37.639 of national media attention, I'm not sure if they would 1:22:37.680 --> 1:22:40.000 have gotten that much, but in terms of importance, and 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:42.320 you know, kind of my background before I became reporter, 1:22:42.400 --> 1:22:45.200 I actually worked in grass roots and so I've personally 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:47.640 always been of the mindset that what happens in grassroots 1:22:47.680 --> 1:22:49.800 is very important for the future of our nation, for 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:51.840 the future of our country, and for the future of 1:22:51.840 --> 1:22:55.040 both political parties, and so in my reporting, I actually 1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:57.600 have a tendency to share those grassroots stories and not 1:22:57.680 --> 1:23:01.120 many other reporters, particularly in DC, and you even actually 1:23:01.200 --> 1:23:03.880 think is worth paying attention to. Sure And you know, again, 1:23:03.960 --> 1:23:06.280 just just another quick note on that. Actually this political 1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:09.679 story was done by two reporters out of New York. 1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:13.599 So that's another insting fidbit that I kind of found, 1:23:13.720 --> 1:23:15.800 is that, you know, it also concerns a lot of 1:23:15.800 --> 1:23:19.800 things in DC nationally. But the reporter that kind of 1:23:19.800 --> 1:23:22.280 interacted with this individual, who you know again I believe 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:27.639 is the alleged leaker, They are a New York political reporter. 1:23:27.760 --> 1:23:30.000 And then the secondary reporter that was on that story 1:23:30.360 --> 1:23:32.519 is the head of all of politicals covering port in 1:23:32.560 --> 1:23:35.320 Euroa gotch out. You know again, I think those reporters 1:23:35.360 --> 1:23:38.639 may have, you know, because they're not necessarily DP reporters, 1:23:38.680 --> 1:23:41.720 that story would have probably still come out, is at 1:23:41.760 --> 1:23:42.360 least my view. 1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:46.160 Yeah. Victoria Churchill political report for Daily Mail. They broke 1:23:46.200 --> 1:23:48.120 key details of the story. She also is a Young 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:50.880 Voice contributor. During the show this morning about the text 1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:54.679 message scandal, Chris's conspective Claremont County Republican Dave Young's office 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:58.280 where there's a swastika, an American flag with a stripture 1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:00.280 bet to form of swastka behind this end. The vigil 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:02.880 caught on camera and that's in a staffer's office and 1:24:02.920 --> 1:24:05.360 he said, well, we're gonna investigate this and find out 1:24:05.360 --> 1:24:07.760 what's really going on, which tells me this is more. 1:24:07.880 --> 1:24:10.200 Let let's see which way the wind blows politically speaking, 1:24:10.240 --> 1:24:13.240 because that's how politics works. Victoria, looking forward, do you 1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:15.320 think the scandal is going to lead to change? And 1:24:15.400 --> 1:24:18.000 how maybe not the GOEP, but the Dems too, because 1:24:18.280 --> 1:24:20.679 it's not like there their poop doesn't stink in this either, 1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:23.479 not with this case, but on others is this Are 1:24:23.520 --> 1:24:25.360 we just going to get more of the same. I 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:27.920 don't really feel like people are outraged over this. 1:24:30.160 --> 1:24:32.200 Yeah, you know, that's a good question. I started off 1:24:32.240 --> 1:24:34.640 the segment talking about how the rhetoric needs to be 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:37.760 turned down on both sides. Well people actually do that, 1:24:37.880 --> 1:24:39.840 you know. I think that's a big question that remains 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:42.559 to be seen. And you know, for me as a reporter, 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:44.800 I'm very interested in reporting on the feature of this 1:24:45.479 --> 1:24:48.400 because again, a lot of these this runtors that I've seen, 1:24:48.400 --> 1:24:50.640 you know, again, even particulately about Jay Jones and not 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:54.280 condemning him. I think as outwardly as some Democrats could 1:24:54.360 --> 1:24:57.439 have been should have been my personal view. I think 1:24:57.600 --> 1:24:59.479 to me that means that they learn nothing from the 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:03.880 Charlie right, yeah, or the you. 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:07.160 Know, anti Semitism with what's happening in the Middle East, 1:25:07.160 --> 1:25:09.639 and it's just you know that this is the latest scandal. 1:25:09.880 --> 1:25:12.200 Tomorrow maybe another Republican or or it might be a 1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:14.840 Democrat that's caught up in something, and you know, saying 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:18.400 this is part of the edge lord culture. I understand that, 1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:21.360 and I wonder if these people really believe that are 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:22.840 just doing it to be edgy and a chat group. 1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:24.960 But again, you've got to be smarter than putting your 1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:27.840 words down and telegram or whatever the the app of 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:30.840 the platform is, because if somebody sees that a later date, 1:25:30.920 --> 1:25:33.559 well you're going to have what's going on right here, Victoria, 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:35.479 all the best. Thanks for joining the show. I appreciate it. 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:38.600 Thank you, hop Yeah, the conversations you had were in 1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:41.320 defense when I understand that there's well it's online. You know, 1:25:41.320 --> 1:25:43.599 people are hiding by the keyboard. They never expected these 1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:46.400 things to But I'm sorry if you're calling yourself a 1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:51.640 future leader of America party being that stupid that and 1:25:51.680 --> 1:25:53.920 putting those words down. Even if you are j k 1:25:55.680 --> 1:25:57.680 they're going to turn that around and running out of 1:25:57.680 --> 1:25:59.840 town as well. They should. It's more of the stupidity 1:25:59.920 --> 1:26:02.800 is what it is, than anything, and also just the 1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:06.360 the nature of the conversations themselves are not only cringey, 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:09.280 but extremely extremely wrong. For that matter, for anyone who 1:26:09.520 --> 1:26:11.800 professes their love of country, I want to lead this nation, 1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:14.360 even if they were just kidding. You're less than five 1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:17.120 minutes away from a full news update traffic, weather, and 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:19.599 the very latest from here and around the world, of course, 1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:22.040 and then we we sat after that because our good 1:26:22.040 --> 1:26:25.559 friend Sarah les is in midweek sports. The Snort Reports 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:45.000 is just ahead on seven hundred WLW. 1:26:46.200 --> 1:26:51.400 Oh my god, how about Dave your producer giving you 1:26:51.439 --> 1:26:52.200 a hard time? 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.080 Oh my god, you're. 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:55.840 Just trying to get around here without the boot and 1:26:55.880 --> 1:26:57.080 the scooter and the whole thing. 1:26:57.479 --> 1:27:00.519 It's it's it's almost I'm happy, it's all most noon. 1:27:03.040 --> 1:27:04.559 I'm happy. It's almost time to leave. 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:06.479 Yeah, it's almost time for me to get out of here. 1:27:06.520 --> 1:27:12.360 I got cyclones, media, I got the jersey on and everything. 1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:13.439 Like some sort of lace collar. You look like if 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:15.320 Judge Judy were going to a hockey game. 1:27:16.240 --> 1:27:19.439 I gotta make it a little sexy, a little lacey 1:27:19.520 --> 1:27:20.719 with my jersey today. 1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:22.320 You don't have a cut down the middle. 1:27:23.240 --> 1:27:25.479 You're disgusting. 1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:27.960 Do that around here. I can't do that around here. 1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:29.679 I can't look cute. You guys are all creeps. 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:34.320 I'm covered up all the time. It's a bunch of 1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:35.799 weirdos around here. 1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:40.919 Yeah, we do have a lot of creepture. 1:27:41.640 --> 1:27:42.559 I show no skin. 1:27:42.640 --> 1:27:45.679 I dress like a nun. Okay, I do I look 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:48.080 like a nun around here? First of all, it's freezing. 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:53.280 Instagram, it looks like she looks like it's it's only 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:55.680 fans she comes in here. She's dressed like she's I 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:58.360 don't Muslim or something like that. Got she got his 1:27:58.520 --> 1:28:00.080 job on. It's it's under. 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:02.639 All you see every day are just my eyes. 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:05.360 Share is here. It's a snort report on seven hundred 1:28:05.400 --> 1:28:08.000 ww we're already three snorts in. We haven't done anything yet. 1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:08.400 This is fair. 1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:09.719 It's one of those days. 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:11.000 Love it. I love it. 1:28:11.080 --> 1:28:13.639 Someone that we are seeing in about in Cincinnati Joe 1:28:13.680 --> 1:28:17.360 Flacco about the flack flack around what's he doing. Are 1:28:17.360 --> 1:28:19.439 we on the flack flat around and find out flack 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:20.120 around and find. 1:28:20.000 --> 1:28:21.160 Out better get Flacco? 1:28:22.640 --> 1:28:25.360 I mean, the possibilities are endless. How do we filled off? 1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:26.880 I mean, do you have the Flacco fever? 1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:30.160 Because we optimistic, it takes a while for the fever 1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:33.120 to catch on. Let's let's get a track the fever. 1:28:33.160 --> 1:28:35.240 I got the fever one win and I'm in. 1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:37.200 All right, you got the fever for the flavor of 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:39.840 a crowd pleaser. I get it now. On that regard, 1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:41.240 I know you can drop beats like that. 1:28:43.120 --> 1:28:45.280 He's been out and about. People have been running into him. 1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:48.200 Okay, grabbing coffee at her foods, he said, selfie. 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:50.120 I love the fact that they got the Jets this week. 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:52.880 I love that the worst team in the league. 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:57.240 Oh and seven careful because they were close a few times. 1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.599 And and I will say this, I'm not worried about 1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:03.280 the Jets. Seven. Teams are a little desperate. It's awfully 1:29:03.320 --> 1:29:06.160 tough to go winless in the National Football League. 1:29:07.720 --> 1:29:10.240 And they are desperate enough to take out their quarterback 1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:11.639 Justin Fields. 1:29:11.720 --> 1:29:14.759 Yes, looks like we're gonna be getting Tyrod Taylor. 1:29:16.040 --> 1:29:19.160 Ty Tyrod Taylor is still alive. Breaking news. 1:29:19.240 --> 1:29:24.120 He is Tyro Sale and another older gentleman bowl Icy Hunt. 1:29:25.040 --> 1:29:27.840 He was terrible with the Bills. That was years ago. 1:29:27.920 --> 1:29:30.120 And well he's just a little bit younger than me. 1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:31.360 So hold on a second. 1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:32.960 Yeah, so fifty. 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:38.439 Oh stop, that's you Tyrod Taylor. 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:41.479 The Jets are expected to start him this weekend because 1:29:41.800 --> 1:29:45.880 Jets owner Woody Johnson said, Hey, offense and clicking, it 1:29:45.920 --> 1:29:47.639 takes seven games to figure it out. 1:29:47.720 --> 1:29:49.800 So get a guy older than Joe Flacco. This is 1:29:49.840 --> 1:29:51.439 two weeks in a row he's played someone older. 1:29:52.320 --> 1:29:53.320 Joe's like, bring him on. 1:29:53.520 --> 1:29:54.040 Incredible. 1:29:54.120 --> 1:29:57.880 Has Joe Flacco gone up against Tyrod Taylor before? 1:29:58.720 --> 1:29:59.640 Has he played with them? 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:00.840 Had to? 1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:03.320 Joe's been on so many teams that I'm assuming that 1:30:03.360 --> 1:30:05.679 he's probably played with and played against him. 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:06.720 Yeah. 1:30:07.080 --> 1:30:09.240 Yes, I'm just gonna say, yes, it's happened. 1:30:08.920 --> 1:30:11.040 And he'll get and he'll look like Tyrod Taylor is 1:30:11.080 --> 1:30:13.559 the reason why he's not the reason why he's tied 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:15.360 back up. It's like, Okay, I'll do this next week. 1:30:15.400 --> 1:30:16.559 It's gonna be fitzy, but. 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:17.799 Hey, desperate times. 1:30:19.360 --> 1:30:24.520 Speaking of Joe Flacco, was on the Fits in Wit podcast. 1:30:24.760 --> 1:30:26.880 Okay and Joe goes. 1:30:26.920 --> 1:30:28.880 I know I'm forty years old, but the first couple 1:30:28.840 --> 1:30:31.920 of times I threw to Jamar and T I was. 1:30:31.920 --> 1:30:32.839 A little nervous. 1:30:33.160 --> 1:30:34.160 Yeah, that's cool. 1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:36.599 I guess Joe was a little a little intimidated by 1:30:36.600 --> 1:30:38.120 the best receivers in the league. 1:30:38.160 --> 1:30:40.160 It's amazing what you can do when you have tools, right. 1:30:40.520 --> 1:30:43.280 It's amazing when you've got those weapons out there and 1:30:43.320 --> 1:30:45.200 you can actually get. 1:30:44.920 --> 1:30:45.920 The ball to them. 1:30:46.520 --> 1:30:48.559 Come out. And again, I don't want to throw shade. 1:30:49.320 --> 1:30:51.320 It's what he did last week was fantastic. 1:30:51.640 --> 1:30:54.799 They looked great, right, it was almost a flawless for months. 1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:56.759 Let's just keep it going. Let's see, you got the Jets. 1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:58.800 I think that's a good gold be careful because and 1:30:58.840 --> 1:31:01.759 then he got the Bear trap a couple of trap games. 1:31:01.760 --> 1:31:02.880 You just gotta win each week now. 1:31:03.280 --> 1:31:06.759 And then you got the Bears again here at Pegor Stadium. 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:08.680 But hey, the Bears are not bad. 1:31:08.680 --> 1:31:11.320 Down with Joe Flacco, that's the guy we need, right 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:15.000 the flo fever a fever. But I after let's see 1:31:15.120 --> 1:31:16.800 two three games, let's see what's going on here. 1:31:17.000 --> 1:31:21.320 When win this weekend, beat the Bears, be and then 1:31:21.320 --> 1:31:23.240 you got your bye week, and then you're. 1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:25.679 On the road at this slit. 1:31:25.720 --> 1:31:28.439 All your divisions split the Vision opponents right, maybe they 1:31:28.479 --> 1:31:31.680 lose to Pittsburgh, Okay, fine, Baltimore cleve Okay. 1:31:31.680 --> 1:31:34.479 He got two with Baltimore, right, And Lamar Jackson is 1:31:34.479 --> 1:31:37.400 coming back this weekend after his injury. 1:31:37.920 --> 1:31:40.840 So we'll see. But again, that puts you in good shape. 1:31:40.840 --> 1:31:42.960 You gotta get the nine wins. I think they're like, 1:31:43.000 --> 1:31:44.720 I agree, there nine ten wins you're in. 1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:47.120 Don't count about and I don't think you can count 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:48.439 the Ravens out yet either. 1:31:49.080 --> 1:31:50.520 Still plenty of football. 1:31:50.600 --> 1:31:52.680 You'll look at Casey coming back from the dead, right, 1:31:53.760 --> 1:31:56.439 anyone can come back, anyone can come back, anyone. 1:31:56.479 --> 1:31:57.840 I'm glad that Tony Pike is back. 1:31:57.920 --> 1:32:01.040 Tony Pike is back, and graduate welcome back, Tony. 1:32:01.080 --> 1:32:04.360 It really is you just never know what's going to 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:05.080 happen around here. 1:32:05.439 --> 1:32:07.599 If you have no idea, people come, people go, they 1:32:07.600 --> 1:32:09.439 come back. No one knows what's going on here. It's 1:32:09.439 --> 1:32:10.800 like aftabs run on this place. 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:17.439 It's so accurate. Speaking of coming back. 1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:20.960 Aside from Tony Bike, we're gonna find out today at 1:32:21.000 --> 1:32:26.439 practice if Trey Hundrickson will be joining the team on Sunday. 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:29.200 We know he was out last Thursday dealing with the 1:32:29.240 --> 1:32:33.000 bad back hip thing. So Zach Taylor during his press 1:32:33.000 --> 1:32:35.639 conference the other day said he's day to day. I'll 1:32:35.680 --> 1:32:36.840 let you know on Wednesday. 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:39.080 Too much pressure on Shamara to hold that whole thing 1:32:39.080 --> 1:32:40.559 together because he's hadn't played. 1:32:40.560 --> 1:32:44.000 But yeah, he went out Week two and then he 1:32:44.120 --> 1:32:47.320 was there against the Steelers injury. You saw Logan Wilson 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:49.720 come back out for a little bit. What do you 1:32:49.720 --> 1:32:53.360 think about that drama? We talked a little bit about that. 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:53.880 Logan Wi. 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:55.200 Yeah. 1:32:55.240 --> 1:32:56.680 I don't know if all the guys that you're going 1:32:56.720 --> 1:32:59.680 to bench, I don't know why Logan Wilson make an 1:32:59.680 --> 1:33:02.400 example of him. I he's one of your captains. I 1:33:02.439 --> 1:33:03.320 guess is happy. 1:33:03.640 --> 1:33:05.200 Zach wasn't happy with what he was saying. 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:06.679 And there's other guys I look at. 1:33:06.560 --> 1:33:10.440 Going Then he put the rookie out there CTB. 1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:14.400 Yeah, what about CTB? 1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:18.160 Speaking of coming back, Joe Burrow, remember that guy? 1:33:18.479 --> 1:33:19.000 Huh who? 1:33:19.560 --> 1:33:21.400 Yeah, just another Joe. 1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:26.120 According to Ian Rappaport, he's saying Joe could come back 1:33:26.120 --> 1:33:29.040 from that turf toe injury in the last few weeks 1:33:29.080 --> 1:33:29.839 of that season. 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:32.160 This is just what. 1:33:35.160 --> 1:33:38.639 I know, because getting everyone's hopes up, and I think 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:41.519 that there were people thinking like, all right, I know 1:33:41.600 --> 1:33:44.840 that he is expected to be back mid December, but 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:48.320 what are the exact details with this stuff? So it 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:51.200 could be uh December twenty first when they go to 1:33:51.280 --> 1:33:53.439 Miami to face the dolphin. 1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:55.840 I just think he's at soft myself. I mean I 1:33:55.880 --> 1:33:58.639 went and had, you know, walking around that Joe Burrows 1:33:58.640 --> 1:34:02.000 soft peer a peer a paranal tendon tear, and I 1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:03.799 just had my I just got my boot off yesterday, 1:34:03.880 --> 1:34:06.840 Oh my gosh. And I'm not walking around doing nic stuff. 1:34:06.840 --> 1:34:08.719 I'm going to get a line. 1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:13.320 Yeah, you don't have an O line around you. 1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:17.559 You fall to the ground, standing on ladders, plumbing, electrical painting, 1:34:17.600 --> 1:34:19.760 all that stuff. I'm out there getting it done. Not 1:34:19.840 --> 1:34:23.840 all heroes older than Joe. So I'm just not saying. 1:34:23.880 --> 1:34:26.240 I'm just saying it is funny to me that the 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:29.880 younger guys are the ones on the sidelines right. 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:30.240 Now to. 1:34:32.280 --> 1:34:35.559 Completely with toes and what your tendon thing. 1:34:35.680 --> 1:34:37.759 And then you got the old guys out there playing 1:34:37.760 --> 1:34:38.479 again exactly. 1:34:38.920 --> 1:34:42.360 Old guys are tougher Tyron and Joe. It's like old refrigerators. 1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:44.960 They don't make them like they used to. They break 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:47.920 too often. Oh my goodness, Joe Flacco is a frigid 1:34:47.920 --> 1:34:48.799 air from the fifties. 1:34:48.920 --> 1:34:52.240 I like Joe Flacco, and I think he's telling me 1:34:52.920 --> 1:34:53.839 he leans into. 1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:56.240 The older guy thing, which again I'm only a few 1:34:56.280 --> 1:34:58.800 years younger than just talking about it. 1:34:58.840 --> 1:35:02.280 He's a little frigid. Frigid or refrigerators what it is? 1:35:02.360 --> 1:35:04.360 Not the cheap new ones where they break every three. 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.640 No, it's the kind that you see in someone's garage. 1:35:06.760 --> 1:35:08.400 Yeah, that's the rounded front on it. 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:12.080 And it's been there since literally the sixties. Yeah, and 1:35:12.120 --> 1:35:14.599 it's got like the bangel bites in there and the window. 1:35:15.560 --> 1:35:15.920 Keep that thing. 1:35:16.000 --> 1:35:17.439 But the thing is a tank. It's never gone, but. 1:35:17.360 --> 1:35:20.599 It'll never die. It'll never die, and you can always 1:35:20.680 --> 1:35:23.960 rely on it. And just when you think it's gonna die, 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:25.919 it comes back and everything's perfect. 1:35:25.960 --> 1:35:28.760 Well, like seventy eight Buicks versus The's Teslas. 1:35:30.160 --> 1:35:32.559 Aside from all of that, did you know that Michael 1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:35.040 Jordan grew up as a Bengals fan? 1:35:35.439 --> 1:35:38.800 The Goat Michael Jordan, Michael. 1:35:38.560 --> 1:35:42.439 Jordan, Chris Collins word was on the Up and Adams 1:35:42.479 --> 1:35:46.120 podcast with our girl Kay Adams and it was brought 1:35:46.200 --> 1:35:48.240 up that he was at an event. I guess Chris 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:50.160 was on an event with Michael Jordan and he was 1:35:50.200 --> 1:35:52.040 talking about he goes, yeah, grew up as a Bengals fan. 1:35:52.600 --> 1:35:54.400 I'm not sure if he's still cheered on the Bengals 1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:57.080 in my in my head, I'm going to say, yeah, 1:35:57.120 --> 1:35:59.519 Michael Jordan is cheering on Joe Flacco and the Bengals 1:35:59.520 --> 1:35:59.880 every sun. 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:02.400 I guess he would have came up with the Super 1:36:02.400 --> 1:36:04.799 Bowl USh Bengals, so maybe he got on the bandwagon. 1:36:05.080 --> 1:36:07.719 Really are a really good team at that playing Carolina. 1:36:07.760 --> 1:36:09.240 I'm like, I just wow, I don't know how you 1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:10.040 get to be a Bengal fan. 1:36:10.080 --> 1:36:12.880 Maybe a Bengals bandwagon because he was in Carolina, so yeah, yeah. 1:36:13.320 --> 1:36:16.599 I was like, Okay, this is what Chris Collinsworth told 1:36:16.680 --> 1:36:18.360 Kay Adams the other day and it was trending on 1:36:18.400 --> 1:36:19.040 social media. 1:36:19.120 --> 1:36:20.720 So I am bringing that teasally. 1:36:20.800 --> 1:36:23.040 Like Taylor Swift with Casey, is he come at all 1:36:23.040 --> 1:36:25.000 the games? I don't receive Michael Jordan instincy. 1:36:25.160 --> 1:36:28.120 You don't see Taylor Swift on the telecasts anymore. 1:36:29.439 --> 1:36:30.720 Notice how they haven't shown her. 1:36:30.920 --> 1:36:33.200 She's kind of busy, isn't she she's still at his 1:36:33.280 --> 1:36:35.160 games though, all right, but she said she wants to 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:35.599 be hidden. 1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:37.839 So now when she walks in, they've got these walls 1:36:37.840 --> 1:36:40.439 that they post up for and she walks behind them 1:36:40.479 --> 1:36:42.599 and nobody can see her, and they no longer show 1:36:42.640 --> 1:36:43.400 her on the broadcast. 1:36:43.439 --> 1:36:45.839 The whole thing. Okay, it is a whole thing. Imagine 1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:50.040 Juice is like a CBS Nixney, No go, don't chooke 1:36:50.080 --> 1:36:50.600 Taylor and. 1:36:50.600 --> 1:36:53.040 The Chiefs are starting to chief again. I knew they would. 1:36:53.520 --> 1:36:54.320 You'll see her back again. 1:36:54.360 --> 1:36:56.320 Didn't count anybody out at this point. 1:36:56.360 --> 1:36:57.559 What else you got there, snorty. 1:36:58.160 --> 1:37:01.559 We've got soccer play offs here right around the corner 1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:04.360 on Monday night. It's going to be the Columbus Crew 1:37:04.640 --> 1:37:08.519 versus FC Cincinnati six forty five kick for that one. 1:37:08.560 --> 1:37:10.240 So they'll do a best of three. 1:37:10.560 --> 1:37:13.720 They'll play Wednesday, and then FCC will go to Columbus 1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:16.120 to play the Crew, and then if they need a 1:37:16.160 --> 1:37:17.200 game three, they'll. 1:37:17.000 --> 1:37:19.280 Come back back here. And since yeah, so FCC. 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:21.400 Had more points than the Crew and that's why they'll 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:24.000 start here, all rightfully, they can just go to and 1:37:24.040 --> 1:37:25.080 O and get to the next round. 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:26.560 That was my question as a fan girl, would you 1:37:26.680 --> 1:37:29.840 rather see them go win here, lose there. 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:33.000 No, just get it done. I hate it. 1:37:33.000 --> 1:37:35.080 It's like, let's not wait till the very last game. 1:37:35.160 --> 1:37:37.639 We see that happen way too often with our Cincinnati teams. 1:37:37.640 --> 1:37:40.799 Ready tie, a little time to rest up to exactly exactly, 1:37:40.880 --> 1:37:42.240 I believe they can go all the way. 1:37:42.320 --> 1:37:42.600 Do you? 1:37:43.400 --> 1:37:46.479 I always believe the exactly I want to believe that 1:37:46.520 --> 1:37:49.680 with our Reds FCC Bengals. 1:37:49.960 --> 1:37:53.160 I mean, okay, can't count anybody out. 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:53.559 Nope. 1:37:54.200 --> 1:37:56.479 Yeah, Like I said, we got our Cincinnati Cyclones back 1:37:56.479 --> 1:37:57.080 on home ice. 1:37:57.120 --> 1:37:58.240 That's on Friday night. 1:37:58.560 --> 1:38:03.000 It's Peanuts, so they're going to be wearing the specialty jerseys. 1:38:03.000 --> 1:38:07.840 They're mister Peanut with a monocle with peut moncle on 1:38:07.880 --> 1:38:08.599 the top, had. 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:13.679 The Snoopy Peanuts Peanut. It's five to one, three nights. 1:38:13.680 --> 1:38:17.400 They've got five dollars Seltzers, craft Beers, one dollar popcorns, 1:38:17.439 --> 1:38:20.400 three dollars burgers, all kinds of good stuff going on. 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:22.519 Yeah, it's promotion seasons what it is. 1:38:22.560 --> 1:38:25.400 And I do want to promote my new show. I 1:38:25.400 --> 1:38:27.800 have my own time podcast. I know I've got my 1:38:27.840 --> 1:38:28.240 own time. 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:35.360 What do you think you are? Adams? No, Wednesday. Adams, 1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:38.519 which what Adams? Are you? President Adams? 1:38:40.040 --> 1:38:41.559 Unfortunately none of the above. 1:38:42.120 --> 1:38:44.120 Yeah, I've got my own time slot on EBA now 1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:47.760 ten am to three pm every single Sunday. So I'll 1:38:47.760 --> 1:38:50.080 be cut short this weekend because of the Bengals. Don't 1:38:50.360 --> 1:38:52.479 we carry all of those? But y'all take your right 1:38:52.520 --> 1:38:53.400 into kickoff now? 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:54.960 Actually live? Are you on tape? 1:38:55.400 --> 1:38:57.920 It is live because you know how we don't like 1:38:57.960 --> 1:39:01.640 to record things. We don't record anything killed if you do. Oh, 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:03.960 and we're going to recognize lap at the game this weekend. Sure, 1:39:04.000 --> 1:39:05.880 we cannot forget about that. It's the Ring of Honor 1:39:05.920 --> 1:39:06.679 game on Sunday. 1:39:07.360 --> 1:39:10.280 Oh, I think about the cyclones about Sorry, I'm all 1:39:10.280 --> 1:39:11.759 over the place, steal. 1:39:11.880 --> 1:39:13.479 I've had to Alanis. 1:39:12.920 --> 1:39:16.160 Today to coffees y Ring of Honor, Ring of Honor 1:39:16.200 --> 1:39:17.880 game on Sunday. Do not forget about that. 1:39:17.880 --> 1:39:19.920 Deserves it for sure. I thought you I thought he 1:39:19.920 --> 1:39:22.160 should have been in the first class question. Oh yeah, 1:39:22.200 --> 1:39:25.000 between fifty years right Fronfield and being the voice of 1:39:25.000 --> 1:39:28.120 the bank. Mister Bengal is like that's the franchise, right, yeah. 1:39:27.960 --> 1:39:29.760 Ten years playing forty years on a mic. 1:39:29.840 --> 1:39:31.880 He's like, knucks all the knucks all of the Bengals is. 1:39:32.840 --> 1:39:35.640 He's truly incredible, So he deserves all of the recognition. 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:37.280 You're going to be there and make sure to show 1:39:37.360 --> 1:39:38.000 him a lot of love. 1:39:38.240 --> 1:39:40.200 I think you should now still go from the booth 1:39:40.280 --> 1:39:41.800 to the field and then back up to the booth 1:39:41.840 --> 1:39:42.320 with Dan. 1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:43.920 When he and I guess they speak a little bit 1:39:43.960 --> 1:39:46.040 and say, you know, so when he's speaking, I guess 1:39:46.080 --> 1:39:47.559 they're going to bring Dan Horde to talk over the 1:39:47.560 --> 1:39:48.120 top of him. 1:39:48.280 --> 1:39:51.120 Oh my gosh, I knew you were going to put 1:39:51.160 --> 1:39:51.920 some joke in there. 1:39:51.960 --> 1:39:53.280 You're just so joky today. 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:58.280 What about yourself? I love laugh thought he's awesome. 1:39:58.400 --> 1:39:59.200 Yeah, he's great. 1:39:59.200 --> 1:40:01.720 So there's a lot going on over the next few 1:40:01.760 --> 1:40:04.759 days here in Cincinnati. So just be safe and behave 1:40:04.920 --> 1:40:06.360 like Teresa Thigisa. 1:40:06.120 --> 1:40:08.800 Gotcha, behave, be safe now. I noticed the new the 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:12.040 season's clones jerseys there. Actually they have kavlarn them in 1:40:12.080 --> 1:40:15.439 case you're down on Fountain Square. You never know. 1:40:15.640 --> 1:40:16.200 Just behave. 1:40:16.439 --> 1:40:19.640 She's Sarah Elise, it's the Snort Report. She's exhausted. I 1:40:19.680 --> 1:40:22.720 am all the women around me just exhausted. I'm just 1:40:22.840 --> 1:40:23.519 tired of you. 1:40:23.720 --> 1:40:25.720 What's the denomination here? 1:40:25.840 --> 1:40:28.840 You just exhaust me, all right, appreciate you. Thanks again. 1:40:28.920 --> 1:40:31.519 Snort report Sarah lease Over on one of two seven 1:40:31.560 --> 1:40:34.800 e b N Scott Sloan with Bill Cunningham show coming 1:40:34.880 --> 1:40:36.840 up right afternoons here on the home of the best 1:40:36.880 --> 1:40:38.120 Bengals coverage, in the home of. 1:40:38.160 --> 1:40:40.320 Dave Lapham and the home of Joe Flacco. 1:40:40.479 --> 1:40:42.880 Thank you. Seven hundred W al W