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Speaker 2: We ought to explained that you heard the rules of

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Speaker 3: She really talent fee.

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Speaker 2: So I paid her twenty bucks to do the rules

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's because the people I have to work with

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Speaker 2: and she's sweetness and lightness and she's innocent, and she's

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Speaker 3: You're none of those things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's accurate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well maybe if you were cute and nice, occasionally

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Speaker 2: Except now guess what, Yes, your electric bill is higher.

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Speaker 2: that is the most massive wealth transfer in human history,

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Speaker 3: It the most.

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Speaker 2: The sun doesn't shine at the nighttime, the wind doesn't

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Speaker 2: not a suggestion box. It needs power. It needs power

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Speaker 2: You're paying for two energy systems every time you pay

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Speaker 3: Duke and Flaught the dark Doldrums.

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Speaker 2: That's when the wind and solar production collapsed simultaneously across

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Speaker 3: Failures.

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Speaker 2: That's what actually happened, and people suffered, and the political

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Speaker 3: To demand more of the same.

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Speaker 2: There's another question the ore leaders won't answer, and it's

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Speaker 2: at capacity ninety three percent of the time. To match

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Speaker 2: that output with a solar panel, you need hundreds of

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Speaker 2: square miles of panels, battery farms, battery farms that are

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Speaker 2: the size of counties. You need transmission lines coming across

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Speaker 2: everything in between. A small modular reactor in SMR sits

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Speaker 2: on the footprint of a football field.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: One football field. So where's the environmental movement on that comparison?

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Speaker 2: And while we're asking inconvenient questions to get to an

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Speaker 2: inconvenient truth, let's ask about the mining. Because those solar

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Speaker 2: panels and EV batteries don't grow in trees. They require cobalt, Yes, cobalt,

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Speaker 2: and what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: Michael?

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Speaker 6: Yesterday I got a knock on the door from this

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Speaker 6: girl who was spreading the word about a new GREENNY

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Speaker 6: cooperative that wants to do win in solar and whatever

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Speaker 6: else here in Fort Collins versus what is being proposed,

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Speaker 6: which is a natural gas fired power plant. I thought, yay,

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Speaker 6: natural gas fired power plant.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I understand, you gotta knock on the door from someone

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Speaker 2: who was trying to sell you solar or win or

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Speaker 2: there's some new initiative for where they were trying to

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Speaker 2: get you to sign something that was for an initiaty

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Speaker 2: to get a new natural gas plan.

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Speaker 3: What what?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I also can you interpret that for me? The girl

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Speaker 4: that was knocking at the door was promoting.

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Speaker 2: Was promoting the gas plant. Wow, I think, wow, she

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Speaker 2: must be from another planet. Does she know what state

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Speaker 2: she's in? Let's state with some of the most abundant

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Speaker 2: oil and natural gas in the entire country.

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Speaker 3: Give me Christmas.

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Speaker 2: As I said earlier, as long as we're asking inconvenient

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Speaker 2: questions that lead to inconvenient truths, we're talking about mining

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Speaker 2: all the solar panels, the EV batteries, all that require

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Speaker 2: there's cobalt, and we know that gifts mind by all

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Speaker 2: those little ruggrass, those poor little kids in the Democratic

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Speaker 2: Republic of Congo. They require rare earth minerals process almost

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Speaker 2: exclusively in China under environmental conditions that would land an

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Speaker 2: American company in federal court at a heartbeat, and it

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Speaker 2: generates mountains of toxic waste that nobody seems to want

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Speaker 2: to discuss at any sustainability conference. Meanwhile, the spent fuel

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Speaker 2: from an entire nuclear power plant fits in a dry

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Speaker 2: cask storage container the size of a garden shed, and

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Speaker 2: we know where every single ass of it is, every

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Speaker 2: single ounce, as I've often said, we make. There may

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Speaker 2: come a time when technology advances where we know how to.

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Speaker 3: Take that waste and use it to our advantage.

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Speaker 4: Just also a further reminder that that waste that you

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Speaker 4: will make in your entire lifetime is one pound one

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Speaker 4: pound of nuclear waste to fuel you will ever use

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Speaker 4: in your entire lifetime.

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Speaker 2: You, on the other hand, produce about twenty five pounds

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Speaker 2: of all sorts of waste every single day.

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Speaker 5: That's just the space I take of.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's that waste too, but there's also the other

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Speaker 2: waste that you put it.

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Speaker 4: I'm clearly not as good at pushing buttons as girl

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Speaker 4: is when when she's.

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Speaker 2: Clearly that's right, clearly, clearly, but that wasn't your fault though, right, true? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in all honesty, really wasn't your fault, correct, Yeah, But

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Speaker 2: it was so confusing to me. I'm sitting here listening

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Speaker 2: to all of whatever that mishmash was going. Why does

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Speaker 2: Mandy have that song? That particular song attached to her promo?

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Speaker 2: Made no sense to me whatsoever. Then I look up

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Speaker 2: and realize, oh, next gym looks like a test batter.

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Speaker 4: I was doing something out of the ordinary. I was

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Speaker 4: playing a song for girls. She specially requess did that

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Speaker 4: bumper song, so I'm playing it from a different source.

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Speaker 4: And I'm also trying to play that talkback that they

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Speaker 4: sent to me personally from my phone so that it

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Speaker 4: would sound all right. And then I look over and yeah,

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Speaker 4: like you.

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Speaker 2: Said what you did when you first looked up though

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Speaker 2: you thought I had done something? Well, yeah, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting here staring at it, like what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: So we're both blaming each other for the screw up.

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Speaker 2: And then we find out, you know, if somebody remotely

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Speaker 2: have done something, most likely probably Tepper. Probably Tepper, he

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Speaker 2: probably you know, he passed out at the desk again,

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Speaker 2: and he worked so hard, well, you know, he does,

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Speaker 2: he does, He works very very hard,