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Speaker 1: Seven oh five at fifty five Caro City Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy Friday, EPA, Happy opening Day, go Reds.

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Speaker 1: Be careful down there for the opening day parade in

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Speaker 1: the game. Welcome back to the fifty five carssee morning show,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson. Great to have you on the program

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Speaker 1: here this opening day. Congressman Davidson, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: So he's an honor to join you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Brian, Appreciate everything you do, sir, Appreciate the time

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Speaker 1: you saw with my listeners and me. And can you

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Speaker 1: answer the question the government is still shut down last

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Speaker 1: time I checked, Congressman Davidson. Of course, my friend Maureen

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Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with the line in Florida for

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Speaker 1: her airplane, but that's not always the case. Some lines

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Speaker 1: four and a half hours long. That's obviously a lot

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Speaker 1: of pain, people missing flights. It's a security problem I've heard,

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Speaker 1: and you might comment on that though, but I guess

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Speaker 1: me first just to ask a question, do you even

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Speaker 1: know what it is that the Democrats want? Because last

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Speaker 1: time I checked, ICE is fully funded for several years

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Speaker 1: under the One Big Beautiful Bill, so they're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to do their work. This is all about what

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Speaker 1: practices on the ground dealing with the the removal of

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants subject to a detention order.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean, pundamentally, they're trying to leverage

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Speaker 2: funding for Homeland Security. So obviously not the hole governor shutdown,

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Speaker 2: but everyone at Homeland Security is working without a paycheck

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Speaker 2: or they're not at work, and you know, obviously that

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Speaker 2: thing that is easiest to see is the TSA. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I was, I was down. I was asked to speak

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Speaker 2: Texas about two weeks ago, I guess, And yeah, we

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Speaker 2: got there before six in the morning to leave for

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Speaker 2: a flight, and the line was wrapped all through the

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Speaker 2: building on the inside, out the door down the building

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Speaker 2: on the outside. I mean, it was crazy. And this

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Speaker 2: is this is one hundred percent fixable if they just say, okay,

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Speaker 2: we want to fund ice, we want to fund the

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Speaker 2: all of Homeland Security. And then they even said, well

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Speaker 2: we funded except without ICE, and so they said fine,

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Speaker 2: and then they realized, oh wait, they'll still have all

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Speaker 2: the ice. They said, okay, we'll fund it. And even

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Speaker 2: though we fund it with no funding for ICE, we

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Speaker 2: there's no money going to ICE, and you're playing, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: but you still have to do these things to Ice.

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Speaker 2: So really what they want to do is say, as

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Speaker 2: long as you stop deporting the millions of people that

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Speaker 2: people of our work today, which is just offensive. So

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Speaker 2: there's a bunch of us that have tried to pass

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Speaker 2: this shutdown Fairness Actor on Ron Johnson Center from Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: introduced it, and it's just common sense. It's like, if

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Speaker 2: you're essential enough to be at work, the payroll clerk

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Speaker 2: is essential enough to pay you this week. You know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can go to jail for that. So

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Speaker 2: It is really important. But if the government should be funded,

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Speaker 2: I mean, granted I would fund a way less government,

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Speaker 2: this invasion. So that is the crux of what they're

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned things they want, it's things they want

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Speaker 1: But what more do they want? What is the big

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Speaker 2: Well, I was talking with a few senators last night.

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Speaker 2: The Senator Rick Scott hosts a regular gathering of conservatives

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Speaker 2: Senator Schumer finally put his list of demands in writing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they've made that list public, but they

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Speaker 2: And you know, the reality is is they've got a

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Speaker 2: It's open rebellion against the federal government. Uh in these

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Speaker 1: Federal law, Congress and Davis law.

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Speaker 2: And it has to because every city in the country

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Speaker 2: that's it is open rebellion. I mean, he cannot tolerate

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Speaker 1: No, you can't. I mean that it's a supremacy clause.

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Speaker 1: I don't well choose to ignore the Constitution the realities.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be a tragic, tragic things. But

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson and I may miss something because there's a

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Speaker 1: I personally don't think that was appropriate action on part

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Speaker 2: Congressman, Well, yeah, I think that's true, and that's not

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Speaker 2: necessarily uniformly supported. I mean, the message is there's no sanctuary, right.

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Speaker 2: You can't just be oh well. I mean when they

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Speaker 2: average person thinks, well, that would be all of them,

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Speaker 2: because if you're an illegal alien, you're a criminal. You've

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Speaker 2: And you know, there's a saying in law enforcement ask

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Speaker 2: been incentivized to leave. There's like a twenty six hundred

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Speaker 2: You've been told to leave, and that was really the

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Speaker 2: point of the election. The country told you, if you're

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Speaker 2: and everyone else has made it very clear you need

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Speaker 2: not a mean thing. You've asked them, You've told them,

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Speaker 2: and now the only thing is to make them And

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Speaker 2: the real is you could have some rational dialogue about well,

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Speaker 2: what are we going to do about the people that

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Speaker 2: They're not, you know, committing welfare fraud, they're not flooding

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Speaker 2: our culture. They want to come here for the opportunity. Great,

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Speaker 2: you should have come legally. Let's figure out how we

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Speaker 2: deal with that. But we're not talking about that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Democrats don't want to talk about anything except blanket amnesty,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many things are illegal that do happen,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't get detected. And so you know, they've subpoened

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Speaker 2: all of the voter registration files from states. Guess what,

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Speaker 2: It goes in and then it's up to the Secretary

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Speaker 2: an honest selection. This is where these two things come

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Speaker 2: the House. I mean, they're like, well, what are you

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Speaker 2: vote again this week for like the third or fourth

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Speaker 2: in general back home, you know, we'll meet with some

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Speaker 2: as things go closer to Eastern nobody wants to meet.

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Speaker 2: They want to get together with their own families and stuff, right, well, Soda,

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Speaker 2: Members of Congress so do the senators. But if they

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Speaker 1: Yet no sympathy for them complaining about missing out on

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Speaker 1: Easter when they can't get this job done. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you completely on that. We'll pause, We'll bring Congressman

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they've got a sophisticated system for intel.

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today, spending it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Brian, always an honor. Yeah, bless you and

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