1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan ray I'm WBS Costin's Meet Radio. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Oh that game is so over, mooy. I hope you're 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: not watching the game. That game is just over. Simple 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: as that. Anyway, before we get right back to this conversation, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: and I would like to talk about this. I have 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: a lot of sound from this today, have Alex and 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Jack if you'd like to join the conversation. I just 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: want to take a moment for those of you who 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: are involved in any charitable work, especially if you're a 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: legitimate five oh one C three. We do an annual 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: charity combine. It's the last hour or so, last couple 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: of hours of my broadcast year. This year it will 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: be on Tuesday night, December twenty third. If you are 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: involved in a charity, either in a leadership position or 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: as a volunteer, and you want to talk to the 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: head of your charity, all they have to do is 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: send me an email. Dan Ray d A Nria at 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: iHeartMedia dot com. If any of you need that email address, 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Rob will give it to you. I need the name 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: of the person, the name of the charity, the name 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: of the person who would represent the charity. Now, please 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: do not send us an email and say that you've 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: heard about a charity that you think is a wonderful charity. No, 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: we do not call out on this. People have to 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: express an interest in being on the air. We will 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: interview them live. They don't have to come to the studio. 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: We'll do it via telephone. They'll be on the program 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: live Tuesday night, December twenty third, here on Night Side, 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: and they have a chance to talk about the name 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: of the charity, what group of people or what purpose 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: it serves, what its mission is, and what do they need. 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: Most charities either need more volunteers, or they need more funding, 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: or they may have a specific need and they can 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: make that appeal. They can give a website. They can 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: make people much more aware of their charity. So it's 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: Dan ray d A n are e A at iHeartMedia 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: dot com spelled I h e a r t n 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: e d i A dot com. If you have any questions, 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: called Rob and he will be able to give you 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: that information. Love to have you on. I will tell 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: you that we've already had a whole group of charities 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: who have inquired about being on or have asked to 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: be on this year. So far, everyone who is called 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: has been accommodated. They will come a point in time 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: where we will get filled up. And it's as simple 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: as that. If you want to be on, you have 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: to make a call now, or I should say, send 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: an email to me, but make sure that you could 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: either be the representative or that you can get the 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: name of the person who would be the representative. And 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: we're not calling out to people. We've done that other years, 52 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: and frankly it has been not worth the effort. So 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to try to call someone and try 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: to convince them that they should join us. On Tuesday night, 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: December twenty third, sometime between ten and midnight, that's how 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: we end the broadcast year. We've done it now for 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: twelve years. This will be year number thirteen. Now we 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: are talking about this murder case which opened up today, 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: the Brian Walsh case. I'm looking for to see if 60 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: there are any people in my listening audience who think 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: that the story that Walsh has that his lawyer has 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: presented to the jury today, realizing that that's not evidence, 63 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: that is generally what they hope to prove. If there's 64 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: anything that you find credible about this, let me go 65 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: to Alex and Millis. Alex, you're a pretty open minded guy. 66 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: How are you tonight? Welcome? 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: I'm not that open minded? How are you guys? 68 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, uh, what do you think about this tale? 69 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: With a straight face? What's that? 70 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm asking you what do you think about this tale? 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: Well, for one, uh, he's already been convicted of occrod 72 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: or whatever, and you know, he loses credibility credibility there. 73 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: So how can any juror you know, uh, realistically come 74 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: to the conclusion that this guy's you know, he's he's 75 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: not really a good person, uh, based on you know, 76 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: his previous incarceration. And it's kind of like a lame uh, 77 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: lame explanation. Why uh you know, if if if, if 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 3: you know, a loved one, uh, you know, was passed away. Uh, 79 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: and the first thing you do is you panic and 80 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: and you say, oh, I'm gonna go hide the body. 81 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: Does that make any sense? 82 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: None? To me? Now, to me, to be really honest 83 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: with you, I mean, I assume if at that moment 84 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: he said, oh my god, she may be dead, if 85 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: he was telling the truth, If he was telling the truth, 86 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: he would have immediately attempted to call nine to one 87 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: one and then try to begin some form of mouth 88 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: to mouth resuscitation or to try to find uh, you know, 89 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: start you know, upper body chest compressions, to try to 90 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: see if there are people who who do stop breathing 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: for some period of time and are there somehow they resuscitated. 92 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: I think we've all seen it on TV. Just to 93 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: try to but to do nothing, and then to have 94 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: in you know, in the next few hours, uh try 95 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: to find out how do I dispose of the body, 96 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: and then to go to I guess a local I'm 97 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: not sure if it was a home depot or or 98 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: whether it was one of those large box stores to 99 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: buy all the necessary items to dismember and dispose of 100 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: your wife's body. 101 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: If they can prove even a miniscule amount of doubt, 102 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: does that mean that this guy could you know, could 103 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: get off? 104 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, it's what what the the jury 105 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: has to believe all the elements of the crime beyond 106 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: a reasonable doubt, not any doubt, but a reasonable doubt. 107 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: And I don't see how any how this jury stays 108 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: out longer than half an hour based upon what we know. 109 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: And I just think that that normally in a case 110 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: like this, you and I suspect that they probably tried 111 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: to work a plea deal with the prosecution, but the prosecution, 112 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: which had was you know, had an abysmal failure for 113 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: a lot of reasons in the Karen Reid case. UH 114 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 2: did not want to take a case like this which 115 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: looks as if it's a slam dunk and cut this 116 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: guy any slack. Yeah, but it's gonna be it's gonna 117 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: be interesting, that's for sure. So you would not have 118 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: qualified for the jury. 119 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Alex, I just not. I would say, all the good 120 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: ones are taking you. 121 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: All right. Thank you, Alex. Talk to you soon and 122 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: hope you had a great Thanksgiving, have a great night. 123 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: I did a lot of a lot of food and 124 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: a lot of for family. 125 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: That's good, good combination food, family, fun, football and festivities. 126 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: Thanks Alex. Good night. Uh. If you would like to 127 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: join the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four ten 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty, I 129 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: would be more than happy to have you join. If 130 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: you had ever called, tonight is a relatively easy night 131 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: to get through for I think on circumstances that probably 132 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: most of you can understand. There's several other topics that 133 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm that I'm willing to go and talk about, but 134 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: this is one that to me defies logic. There's just 135 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: no logic here in my opinion, maybe in yours. Maybe 136 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: some of you see it differently. If you do feel 137 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: free six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, triple 138 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: eight nine to nine, ten thirty and six one seven, 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Coming right back on Nightside. 140 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Bzy Boston's 141 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: News Radio. 142 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: We're talking about the Brian Walsh case. Probably many of 143 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: you did not listen to or hear the presentation in 144 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: court today, but it was uh to me, it was astonishing. 145 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Let me see what Jack in Dyton has to say. Hey, Jack, 146 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: appreciate your calling in. You're next on Nightside, right ahead, Jack, Well. 147 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: Thank you first for taking my call. Danny, I appreciate 148 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: it as usual. 149 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: Very well. 150 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: Let me say, let me say this. Let's just put 151 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: the facts on the table. The fact is that he 152 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: is guilty of of was it illegal disposal of a 153 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: human body. 154 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,359 Speaker 2: Pled guilty to that, and pled guilty to misleading investigators. 155 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: Correct, alright, So so he's guilty on those, but clearly 156 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: he's innocent, right, now on the. 157 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Murder judge, he's presumed innocent. 158 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: Well, but he hasn't He hasn't been convicted yet. 159 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: That's correct, But I just want to make sure I 160 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: didn't want anyone to be misled to think that the 161 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: jury to come back with a quick decision Jack go ahead. 162 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: No, no, by no means. But I mean, so he's 163 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: presumed innocent at this point, and again, his attorney can 164 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: come out and opening statements to say whatever he wants to. Uh, 165 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: being able to convince a jury of that is a 166 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: completely different thing. And I mean, listen, based on the 167 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: actions that this guy took, how do you come back 168 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: from the loss of credibility in the fact that you're 169 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: alling to investigate is on the disappearance of your wife 170 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: saying that she you know, she left, I don't know 171 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: where she is, but he knew exactly where she was. 172 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: But let me ask you this question. If they don't 173 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: find a body, and I don't think they're going to, 174 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: can they you know, like, does that not make the 175 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: case a little more difficult for the Norfolk County DA's office. 176 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 2: No, not under these circumstances. It doesn't. I mean, if 177 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: if let us say, you know, there was a period 178 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: of time where before the law I think it was 179 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: of its status. There was a period of time where 180 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: prosecutors were hesitant to bring a prosecution in the absence 181 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: of a body, because obviously no prosecutor wanted to find 182 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: out that someone merely disappeared and they convicted somebody on 183 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: circumstantial evidence, and then the person who had disappeared and 184 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: had not been murdered came back and walked into town. 185 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: No this there's there's this efficient circumstantial evidence here. As 186 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I think the overwhelming circumstantial evidence here. Yeah, 187 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: and we do know I think uh or there have 188 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: been reports put it more accurately that there were conversations 189 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: that were initiated by the defense uh to to arrange 190 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 2: some sort of a plea deal, and that the the 191 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: the government in this case, the Norfolk County d A's 192 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: office refused to you know, there was there was no give, 193 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: there was nothing to negotiate. They they want a murder 194 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: one conviction because they believe this is a horrific murder 195 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: one case. 196 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: And we well, I think I think, yeah, I'm sorry, 197 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: go ahead, No, I've just. 198 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: Was just saying what I had said last hour for 199 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: those who you know, people move in and come in 200 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: and out of our conversation that I think this is 201 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: an incredible tactic to take. And I'm sure that his 202 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: defense counsel, who we understand is experienced, has been very 203 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: careful in his conversations with this guy, because you don't 204 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: want to make the mistake as a lawyer and say, okay, 205 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: tell me what happened. Well, I just you know, I mean, 206 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: I lost it and I killed her and then I 207 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: tried to get rid of the body. I mean, that's 208 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 2: a huge mistake for a seasoned defense attorney to make 209 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: because at that point you have admitted to the crime, 210 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: and as an officer of the court that the defense 211 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: lawyer has an ethical obligation they can't mislead the court. 212 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: They're not going to turn the guy in and say, hey, 213 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: guess what he confessed or anything like that. But at 214 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: that point they probably would have to recuse themselves from 215 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: even handling the case. So you know that he could 216 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: have he could have said to to Wall's look, as 217 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 2: you know, nice to meet you. All of these circumstances 218 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: look pretty inculpatory, but I want to hear from you 219 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: what you want to tell me. Happened. Bear in mind 220 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: that what you tell me is going to potentially influence 221 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: my ability to represent you honestly in front of the court. 222 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: And you know you can telegraph to them in that 223 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: sort of set of circumstances that you know, don't you know? 224 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: If you confess to me, you put me in an 225 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: in an awkward position and you will probably have to 226 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: find a different lawyer. So this was the story that 227 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: this guy told. I don't find incredible. 228 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: Do you I concur with that statements? 229 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: You know, and I don't know where the lawyer goes 230 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: from here and puts some It looks to me like 231 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: because this is the only guy, is Walsh who can 232 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: testify and can say, well, you know, she went up 233 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: to bed, but he told what he told the jury today, 234 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: which again is not evidence per se, but it's sort 235 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: of a roadmap that the that the jury can can 236 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: consider and basically says that you know, well let me 237 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: let me play this sound bite and I'll get your 238 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: reaction to it. Okay, this is cut twenty seven. Please, 239 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: I've cut number twenty seven. 240 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,239 Speaker 5: Brian Walsh? 241 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 6: Why like to January fourth? Like to them January fifth, 242 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: lied to them on January seventh Bryan Walsh. When the 243 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 6: Lowells and by tools. 244 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 7: Bryan Walsh and by tools Brian Walsh, beginning about four. 245 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 8: Fifty four A began a frantic and tragic search that 246 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 8: you'll hear about. You'll hear the evidence that you will 247 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 8: hear evidence that those searches evolved from how best to 248 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 8: dispose the body to even darker something matter. 249 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 6: As he wrestled with the fact that Anna Walsh was dead. 250 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: And now I can't tell I hope that this has 251 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: been labeled correctly by my producer. Let me play one 252 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: other sound bite to you, which I believe for sure 253 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: was the defense lawyer cut twenty nine rob. 254 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 7: On January first of twenty twenty three, Jim Mucklow left 255 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 7: the family home of Brian and Anna Walsh sometime between 256 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 7: one and one thirty in the morning. 257 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 6: Anna and Brian Walsh continued to celebrate the news. They 258 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 6: went up to the bedroom. About an hour later. 259 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 8: You will hear evidence that mister Walsh got up, went 260 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 8: back down the stairs. 261 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 6: To clean themission. See evidence that he looked at his email. 262 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 8: You'll hear evidence that he then returned to the bedroom, 263 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 8: intending nothing more than. 264 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 6: To crawl into bed with Anna Walsh, the woman he loved. 265 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 7: When he entered the bedroom and began to get into 266 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 7: the bed, he sensed something was wrong. 267 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 6: You will hear evidence that it made no sense to him. 268 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 6: But he nudged Anna, his wife. She didn't respond. He 269 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: nutged her again, a little harder. She didn't respond. 270 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 8: He nutsed her now in a frantic and panic reaction 271 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 8: to where she actually rolled off. 272 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: Then that's that story. Hang hang for you. 273 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 9: You know what, I'm not buying any of it, Danny. 274 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: I'ma be honest Ricky. 275 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 10: I'm not buying any of it. And and it'd be 276 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 10: hot pressed to find twelve people or one person I 277 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 10: should say, you know what I mean, like it's the 278 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 10: the the evidence, and again we haven't heard it all. 279 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: And I get it. He's innocent, court of guilty. But 280 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: I would not be able to be on that, Jerry, 281 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: because when they asked me, do you have an opinion? 282 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 283 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 10: I have an opinion. 284 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: All right, Jack, I appreciate you taking the time on 285 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: this Monday night. I appreciate it. Talk to your good night, Okay, 286 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: gonna take a break. I'm more than happy to continue 287 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: to talk about this case, or I can switch topics. 288 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: You the audience will decide six one, seven, two, five, 289 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. 290 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: We will talk more, I'm sure later this week and 291 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: next week as well about the Brian Walsh case. But 292 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: it was an astonishing opening of this trial today, particularly 293 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: from the point of view of the defense attorneys. Feel 294 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: free to join the conversation. And if you think that 295 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: that story hangs together, I'm not here to make fun 296 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: of you. I'm just trying to find out if there's 297 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: anyone out there who could see this having transpired in 298 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: the context of everything that he did this way six 299 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: one seven thirty, six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 300 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: Coming back on night Side. 301 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w BZY, 302 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 303 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: Okay, back to the phone, you go. Let me talk 304 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: to Carol in Randolph, first female caller tonight. See what 305 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: Carol thinks. Carol, your thoughts on this horrific story. 306 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 9: Oh, I just think he is totally guilty, and I just, 307 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 9: I mean, it's why can't people just give it up? 308 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 9: When you know I mean, oh man, I mean, I 309 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 9: think he was so jealous of her and her success 310 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 9: and everything, and why can't people just work it out, 311 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 9: do a divorce. It's not that hard, yeah, you know, 312 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 9: I mean it's walk away. I mean, I no doubt 313 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 9: in my mind he killed her. I know he did, 314 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 9: but I mean he was a loser and she was successful, 315 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 9: and I mean the ego got in the way or whatever. 316 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 9: But yeah, there's no way I'm buying his crap that 317 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 9: she passed away that night, No way. 318 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. And even if he did, if that was the 319 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: person you saw on the street, I mean, if you 320 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: were walking down the street and you saw someone unconscious 321 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: on the street, and you went over and you realized 322 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: this person has collapsed, the first instinct of a normal person, 323 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: a normal human being is to call nine one one 324 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: or to someone help, or to yell and you know, 325 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: anybody near, can someone call nine one one and try 326 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: to help that person. 327 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 9: This is exactly exactly that's I mean, it's preposterous that 328 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 9: he is putting this defense on. 329 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: Oh. 330 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 9: I panicked because I thought they would blame me. Yeah, 331 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 9: I mean at first I thought he was going to 332 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 9: claim the insanity that he just went into like a 333 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 9: rage or something. No, I mean, this guy is just 334 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 9: out of his mind. 335 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: Well, that that defense would have would have led. I'm 336 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: sure you know to a to an traps are not 337 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: reason not guilty by reason of insanity maybe, but that 338 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: means you're going to spend the rest of your life 339 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: in jail. I mean, in prison, there's there's no way out. 340 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: And so I'm sure facing that he didn't want to 341 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: deal with that. He's still got to deal with this 342 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: federal charge that you know, he's never gonna I don't 343 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: think he's ever going to see the light of day. 344 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: And as they say, I just what I'm focused on 345 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: is not so much the crime, but but how his 346 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: lawyer can actually, you know, put together a defense that 347 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: has any chance. I mean normally a jury will be out, 348 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, for a couple of days and they deal 349 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: with the issues. I suspect this jury will come back 350 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: probably in record time. 351 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 9: If you get my drift, oh ten minutes, Dan. 352 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they may want to have lunch, you know something. 353 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: Sometimes they do that. 354 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 9: It's just no, it's preposterous that you think that the 355 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 9: jury is going to believe that somebody you loved passed 356 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 9: away and you didn't call nine one one like you said, 357 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 9: and oh, then I have to cover it up because 358 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 9: they'll blame me and like, are you crazy. 359 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: No, God, that's sad. I mean, it's sad. We're laughing 360 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: at the defense here, but this is we can't forget 361 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: the fact that a woman lost her life so unnecessary. 362 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 9: And that's what I just want to say to younger people, 363 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 9: like you're married. I mean, marriage is a tough road. 364 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 9: Just get in there and do it. Be committed to 365 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 9: ups the downs, but you don't kill yourself. 366 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: Right if the ups and downs become hills and mountains, 367 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: move on, move on, shake hands and say we gave 368 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: it a good try and let's move fun. 369 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, but they don't try so hard anymore. 370 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, of course that's it's a little complicated now 371 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: that there's three kids who have lost their mom and 372 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: I suspect and we'll have lost their dad as well, 373 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: so this has to be horrific for those children, those 374 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: three boys as well. Carol is always a thank you 375 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: so much for giving giving us a call. And I 376 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: don't know if you've watched any of the football game tonight, 377 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: but it's a blowout and you've missed nothing good. 378 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 9: Thanks so much, and thanks for the prayers for my husband. 379 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 9: You guys pulled them through. 380 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: Thanks well, that's great. That's good to know. I did 381 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: not realize that. Okay, is he is he home and 382 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: everything at this point. 383 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 9: No, it's going to be a long haul. But we'll 384 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 9: get them home. 385 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: Good. 386 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 9: We'll get them home good for you you watching the 387 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 9: Patriots game. That is real tonight. We'll get them home. 388 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: Well, I got you here, which is more? Which is 389 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: that's that's which I appreciate very much. Thanks so much, Carol. 390 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: We talk soon. Thanks, have a great Thanks, good night. 391 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: All right. It looks to me like everybody has had 392 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: everything they want to say about this, which is fine. 393 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes we have those nights. I think it's I think 394 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: it's an interesting story. I can play a couple of 395 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: more lights, a couple of more soundbites here, which will 396 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: get me to where I want to get to. Rob 397 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: play cut twenty six. This is the prosecutor talking about 398 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: the case that they will put on against Brian Walsh. 399 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: This is cut number twenty six. 400 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: Investigators will also explain to you that Brian Walsh's cell 401 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 5: phone on January third. 402 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 6: Was located your. 403 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 11: Apartment complexes and rock You'll see the sabils videos from 404 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 11: some of the self apartment complexes, including one of chatting wits, 405 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 11: you'll see someone going to the dumpser and. 406 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: Kah. 407 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: The messages will also tell you that on January fifth, 408 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 5: Bryan WASH's was in the area of dumpsters and a. 409 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 6: Trash compactor. 410 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 5: By his mother's apartment complex and swamster and that. 411 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 11: This was before he was interviewed by Detective Schmidt later 412 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 11: that night. 413 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: Again, this is this is a case that is just 414 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: just amazing. Here's a little bit more of a follow 415 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: up on that same same argument made by the Norfolk 416 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: County Prosecutor cut twenty six a roup. 417 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: On January nine, the police went to those dumpsters and 418 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: they took those that trash compactor and those that dumpster 419 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 5: to a facility in Peev where they searched the contents 420 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: of both and they found and Memory's launch, blue gray 421 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: hunter boots, a black coat, a COVID vaccination card, would 422 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: Anna loss his name, rugs, a highbeck suit, a hammer, shears, snifs, a. 423 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 6: Hatchet, and a hacks. 424 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 5: The police will tell you that these items were packaged 425 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 5: and brought back to a laboratory and they were brought 426 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 5: there for examination. 427 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: Again, basically the case being laid out. So if there's 428 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: no one else who wants to chime in in this case, 429 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: and I truly was hoping that there might have been 430 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: someone out there who found this case, even in the 431 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: slightest potentially credible. I'm going to move on. I'm going 432 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: to take quick break, and we come back and open 433 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: up a different topic. Don't open up a different topic 434 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: in the middle of an hour, but I will. In Medford, 435 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: there is a huge, huge story going on uh in 436 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: which the City of Medford has apparently made a commitment 437 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: through the Mayor's office that, beginning unless something changes, beginning 438 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: on July first, twenty twenty seven, a year and a 439 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: half for now, trash pickup in that city will no 440 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: longer occur on a weekly basis, but it will occur 441 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: every other week. I can't imagine. I can't imagine the 442 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: City of Medford entering into such a contract. We'll continue 443 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: on six one, seven thirty, six, seven, nine, three, one, 444 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: ten thirty back on Nightside right after this. 445 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio. 446 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: So, Medford, Massachusetts, this nice community a little north of Boston. 447 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: I think most of us have been there at some point. 448 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: The mayor, her name is Mayor Brianna Longo Cohen. I 449 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: believe it's it's spelled ko e h N. I believe 450 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: it's coin or Cohen. We tried to get the mayor 451 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: to join us tonight, and unfortunately her press person told 452 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: us that she had some sort of a meeting to attend. 453 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: So she's welcome to come on any other night at 454 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: her convenience. But we did reach out to her, and 455 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: Medford has decided, or I should say maybe the mayor 456 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: of Medford has decided that about a year and a 457 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: half from now, Medford will no longer pick up trash 458 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: once a week. They will pick up trash twice a month, 459 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: every other week. I can't imagine what Medford will devolve 460 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: into at this time if they ever go through this. Now. 461 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: Apparently there's a lot of finger pointing, according to The 462 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: Boston Herald. Comedian Seth Myers has even jumped on the controversy. Myers, 463 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: I guess, on his late night talk show, said, the 464 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: mayor of Medford, Massachusetts, recently announced a new waste removal 465 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: program which will reduce trash pickups to once every two weeks. 466 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: But it's Massachusetts, Myers said Tuesday on his late night show, 467 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: So Bottle recycling is still every day. Well, I don't 468 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: know that that is going to be a line that 469 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: will be in Seth Myers's resume, you know, when his 470 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: late night show talk show. But it certainly to me 471 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: is pretty odd that a mayor in Massachusetts would feel 472 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: that his or her, in this case, her constituents can 473 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: go two weeks. We have, you know, in Massachusetts, we 474 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: have this recycling program where, at least in the town 475 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: where I live, you have they give you a green 476 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: barrel and a blue barrel, and in the blue barrel 477 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: goes trash, and in the green barrel goes items like 478 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: cardboard and newspapers and glass bottles, things that can be recycled. 479 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: And the barrels I guess they have. I guess it's 480 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: sixty four cubic feet of trash. So the barrels are 481 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: pretty good, you know. Now again, if you got a 482 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: really big family, I guess you got to get an 483 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: extra barrel or two. But for the most part that's 484 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: all you need. However, most weeks the barrels are pretty full. 485 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 2: And to think that you could actually go two weeks 486 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 2: or you could go from let's says being picked up 487 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: fifty two weeks a year to being picked up twenty 488 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: six weeks a year. Now some weeks you might have 489 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it might be away a couple of days. 490 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 2: So I'd love to hear from you, particularly if you're 491 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: out in Medford. What do you think about this program? 492 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: The story is that the mayor apparently thought she had 493 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: the authority to commit to this contract. Apparently she posted 494 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: a video on social media, according to the Herald story, 495 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: looking to calm some fears and some anger according to 496 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: her over trash contract and institutes the bi weekly trash pickup, 497 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: a move she said the city's Solid Waste task Force 498 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: recommended in twenty twenty two. So we were going to 499 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: ask the mayor tonight who is on this solid waste 500 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: task force? Who would have who would have written this? 501 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: I think the mayor was kind of pointing to someone else. 502 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: She said, we were deciding how to be transparent about this, 503 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: and hadn't discussed this since twenty twenty three publicly. That's 504 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: a good way to be transparent. So although I wanted 505 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: to do it sooner than later, we probably should have 506 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: separated it from the release that went out with the 507 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: good news about a two hundred thousand dollars grant. Under 508 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: the new service, residential sixty four gallon trash carts will 509 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: be collected every other week along with recycling at no charge, 510 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: beginning in July of twenty twenty seven. Officials say the 511 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: baseline will equate to thirty two gallons per household per week. 512 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: Residents could continue to lease additional sixty four trash in 513 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: ninety six gallon recycling carts. Moving to a bi weekly 514 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 2: collection collection would save the city over one million dollars 515 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: per year at a time when disposal costs arising now. 516 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: The city has scheduled community meetings in December and January 517 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: to discuss the plan, and the city council president said, 518 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: whether you think the change is a bad idea no 519 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: matter what, or potentially has some merits. The fact that 520 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: Medford's trash removal policy has gotten so much negative attention 521 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: in national and local news and was joked about a 522 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: national broadcast TV is a colossal communications failure and undermines 523 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: the trust of residents. Look a lot of politics probably 524 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: here going on, But I would like to hear from 525 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: you whether you live in Medford. Particularly love to hear 526 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: from me if I live at Medford, but or anywhere 527 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: else and explain to us how you would react. I 528 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: would assume that everyone in the sound of my voice, 529 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: and by the way, I'm told that we're having trouble 530 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: with our streaming devices tonight, and for that, I apologize profusely. 531 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: Don't understand why that's happening tonight, but I would hope 532 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: that our ACE technical staff is working on that as 533 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: much as they can. Again, electronics when it's working is wonderful. 534 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: When it breaks down, it's not quite as wonderful. So 535 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 2: I'd love to know from you. Could you tolerate a 536 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: bi weekly trash pickup if you live in most communities 537 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts there are communities where you can still take 538 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: the trash to the dump, particularly down on the Cape. 539 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm familiar with that, and probably in some places in 540 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: western Massachusetts where I live. Your trash pickup is covered 541 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: in your real estate taxes, in the taxes that you pay, 542 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 2: and where I live, you pay a lot of money 543 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: in real estate taxes, which covers everything fire, police, schools, 544 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: trash pickup, et cetera. Doesn't mean that the trash gets 545 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: picked up every week on time. That's one of the 546 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: problems in the community where I live. But that's a 547 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: story for another time. My question all of you is 548 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: what do you think of this? Let's assume it's successful 549 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: in Medford. I don't think it would be, but if 550 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: the mayor is intent on pushing this, and that would 551 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: have been a lot of the conversation we intended to 552 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: have with the mayor tonight to find out what is 553 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: the motivation. There has to be some motivation for this. 554 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just saving money, but it's going to impose 555 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: a lot of inconvenience on the constituents in Medford. So 556 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: the question I would want to know is what is 557 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: the motivation? If it is just saving money, I hope 558 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: they're going to cut real estate taxes in Medford. I 559 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: don't think that will happen, but that would be my proposal. 560 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: And then if it's successful in Medford, do you think 561 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: it may end up in a community near you, indeed 562 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: your community? And how would you respond to that? That 563 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: is that is really my question. If I get Dave here, 564 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: let me try to grab Dave quickly if he wants 565 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: to talk about this topic, maybe he doesn't have to 566 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 2: wait through the news. Dave, what do you think about 567 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: this idea in Medford? 568 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 3: I think it's lunacy, Dave. 569 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 12: I'm Dan Ray. I think it's crazy. A lot of 570 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 12: a lot of towns and cities are an angel's hair 571 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 12: away from having rat problems, and they can ill afford this. 572 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 12: Boston has a permanent rat problem, as we all know. Yeah, 573 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 12: and a place that's getting busier and more dense cannot 574 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 12: afford to play this game. 575 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: You know, I could just see that if you really 576 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: want to attract rats and raccoons and any other sort 577 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: of night creature for that better, any any creature that's 578 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: out there. This is a great idea. But again, we 579 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 2: had hoped to have the mayor or maybe even someone 580 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: from the mayor's office on tonight, but they were kind 581 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: enough to tell my producer, Marita uh that that she 582 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 2: was unavailable. But I want to talk about this, and 583 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: if you'd like to hang on, we could, we could 584 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: we could pick up our conversation on the other side 585 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: of the of the eleven o'clock News, if that's okay 586 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: with you, Dave, Sure sounds great, sounds great. We'll be 587 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: back with Dave and Chelmstread And we got other calls 588 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: coming in six, one, seven, two, five, thirty, six, one, seven, nine, 589 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 2: three one, ten thirty. My name is Dan Ray. This 590 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: is Night's Side trash pick up once every other week, 591 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: not once a week, once every other week. Could you 592 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: live with it? Could your community live with it? Join 593 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: the conversation back after this