1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL, 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Your home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: head coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Combgrin Brought to 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: you by Toyota of Kirkland. 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You know him by the way, 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: very well, Yes, normally with us on Wednesday, but we 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: had a little basketball game last night, so Kevin got 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: the bump. 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: He got the bump to tonight at five o'clock. 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: So he's actually calling Texan Steelers for radio on Monday. 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that with Kevin. But man, I 20 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: haven't seen you since last year. 21 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: I know, how about that? 22 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: God, it's been a while you look good man? 23 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: How are you hanging in there? You know, Dick and 24 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: I tried to hold on the port. 25 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: How about you? How'd that go? 26 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 4: Well? It was really good. There was less controversy. Okay, 27 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: there was less yelling. 28 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so I was boring? 29 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: Is no one called me any names? 30 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah? 31 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Well listen, I told you I'm only going to call 32 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: your names off the year. Okay, no more name calling 33 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: on the year. I'll only do it off year. 34 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 35 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: Well, it's great to see you, man. 36 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: We got a lot going on in the NFL with 37 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 2: the playoffs this weekend. The Hawks are obviously sitting around 38 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: waiting for their opponent. We can talk about that in 39 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 2: a second, but we got to just get your thoughts 40 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: as a former college football coach, right uh, as a 41 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: quarterback coach, as a dad, as an advisor, as a 42 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: mentor on this Demon Williams story. We're sitting on the 43 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: air two nights ago, I think, Dick, and the story 44 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: comes out like right at six o'clock, boom, DeMont William's 45 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: name is in the portal, four days after he signed 46 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: an n I L revenue shared deal with you, dub. 47 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: Demon Williams decides you know what. I think I can 48 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: get more and I want out of here. What do 49 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: you make of this whole thing? 50 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: No, to me, it's very sad, you know. I uh, 51 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: I don't begin to understand every little detail of the 52 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: new rules that go in college football right now. Yeah, 53 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: but it seemed to me I had a chance to 54 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 4: meet the young man when I went over and talked 55 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: to the team one day, and and he's done very 56 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: well for the Huskies. The coach loves him and everyone 57 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: loves him. And he signed he signed the deal. And 58 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: so you know, we've always talked about this on the show. 59 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 4: You guys are the same way I am. We're kind 60 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: of handshake people. You make the deal, that's the deal, 61 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: you know. And so it surprises me, it disappoints me. 62 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: It's too bad, But that's the way call it, Dave. 63 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: I'm old. College football is so different now than when 64 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: I coached and certainly when I played, And I guess 65 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: it just is what it is, and so we shouldn't 66 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: be surprised by almost anything. Gee. 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 5: I had a friend text me when this whole thing 68 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: went down, and we were going back and forth and 69 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: it was like, oh, the kids today, right, the kids 70 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 5: today showed no loyalty, and my response name was, you know, 71 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 5: if we would have had no rules when we were 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: twenty year old college players. 73 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, not that I was, but you were. 74 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, we probably would be just as disloyal as kids 75 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: are today. They're being allowed to be disloyal when fifteen, 76 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 5: twenty years ago, fifty years ago, they weren't allowed to 77 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 5: be disloyal. 78 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: You know, the thing that jumps out of me more 79 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: than anything is the money. You know, if you're if 80 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: you're at a school and something happened and you don't 81 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: get to play the freshmen they move someone in front 82 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: of you, I kind of get where a kid would 83 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: want to I want to play. I want to play. 84 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: So you go to a transfer to another school, but 85 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: you don't transfer to that school because they're going to 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: pay you three million bucks when the other school is 87 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: only paying you a million, right, you know that one? 88 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: That one no but to play. If that was just 89 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: the rule, I could live with that a little bit. Yeah. 90 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 91 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: But here's the thing about this old de Mont william situation. 92 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: Takes two to tango, right, Like somebody's got to be 93 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: willing to take him. I mean, that's de Mon Williams 94 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: doesn't just wake up and say I want out of 95 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: my deal and I'm gonna go show up in Louisiana 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: and just grab a locker, right. I mean, Lane Kifton's 97 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: got to want him to come down there. 98 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: So do we know that's where he is? 99 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: No, we don't know that. 100 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: For sure, but that's the smoke the small signals say, lsu. 101 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: He may end up somewhere else, There's no question about that. 102 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: But uh, and I gotta fall up on this in 103 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: a second. How much are you willing to put the 104 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: blame for this on the kid, his advisors, and how 105 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: much you wanted to put the blame on the other 106 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: adults like Lane Kiffin? You know Lane's dad, MONI, Yeah, 107 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: you knew him forever. He's been around the NFL forever. 108 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 4: Blank. 109 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Lane's the Lane's the adult in the room, right, 110 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: Lane's the one kind of that yeah that sits there 111 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: and says, hey, I don't care if you've got to 112 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: sign contractor and I with you, dub, come on down, 113 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: I'll take you. How much of this you put on 114 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: his shoulders? 115 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I think a lot of is on his shoulders. 116 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: But I think a lot of coaches in college now 117 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: I think they're Their number one thing is to get 118 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 4: the best team they can get, right, They're not thinking 119 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: about what the kid did or what the parents did. 120 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: If he's a great player and I can get him, 121 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and get him. So but I think 122 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: ultimately the player has to make the decision, not the agent. 123 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: The agent probably is involved somehow, the parents somehow, but 124 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: usually it's the kid. Yeah. 125 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: Well, just to follow up, sorry, just real quick on that. 126 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: So let me paint a scenario for you. Say, Demon 127 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: Williams goes to bed and wakes up and has that 128 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: come to Jesus moment, says you know what, God, I'm 129 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: getting killed by everybody. I'm doing the wrong thing here. 130 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: This really isn't a good idea. I don't want to 131 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: do this anymore. I want to stay and play for Jetfish. 132 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: Would you take him back? 133 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? I take him back. But that's hard. Yeah, it's 134 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: it's it's it's you got to you got a mends 135 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 4: some fences and get people on your side again. 136 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 5: Well, would you take him back? I probably would. Let's 137 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 5: live in reality. I got one more got I got 138 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 5: one I got one more question on a demon thing, 139 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: and I want to move on to the Seahawks. But Mike, 140 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 5: if you're Jetfish right now, how do you handle this? 141 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: Do you bring the team together? Do you have a 142 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 5: big meeting with them? Or do you just go in 143 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 5: and go into recruit mode and try to get a 144 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 5: quarterback as best you can out of transportal and not 145 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: really deal with your existing team. Right. 146 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: No, I think it's absolutely necessary. Well, I don't know 147 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: what Jad's gonna do. What I would do is absolutely 148 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: necessary to get everyone together and explain once again what 149 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: we're trying to do here. And if you promise me 150 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 4: something or I'll promise you something, we have to understand 151 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: that what that means, you know. No, that's a great opportunity, 152 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: I think too, in a tough situation, to bring the 153 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: guys together and kind of re emphasize what's important to you. 154 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'll just go on record not that either one 155 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: of you care, but I'll go on record as saying 156 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: I would not take them back. 157 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: You wouldn't at all. 158 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: No, I'm done. Fine, I don't blame Yeah, I just 159 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: think it'd be a disaster. 160 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: I think if he comes out in place poorly, he'd 161 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: get hammered, murdered by everybody. 162 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 4: In town. 163 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: The press would be all over them. There's players in 164 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: that locker room that think he's a quitter. Oh dude, 165 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: I think it'd be a bad, bad scene if Demon 166 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: Williams had to come back to Washington. 167 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: So look, I would not take him back. I'm moving on. 168 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: I'm done. 169 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: But we're also moving on to the Seahawks. Man, So 170 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: it had the number one seed three times in franchise history. 171 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: You were the first to do it, and you went 172 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. Dick and I and Jackson had 173 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: been debating all week long kind of what we expect 174 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: out of this football team. Now with the number one seed, 175 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: it almost feels unfair to expect a team to go 176 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. But with the way their defense 177 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: is playing MIC and this kind of renewed run game 178 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: a little bit here, I kind of do expect them 179 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 2: to go with that number one seed in home field. 180 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: How about you? 181 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: I agree, I think they're going to go. And you 182 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: know that game they played last week against the forty 183 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: nine ers just they shut down a team that had 184 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: been scoring a lot, right, and they just closed the door. 185 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: Now the forty nine ers were there was some problems 186 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: there injury wise, but they played a great football game, 187 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: and they are peaking. It seems to me like their trajectory. 188 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: They're just going up and getting better, better and better. 189 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: And if they can get keep the running game going, 190 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: if they can keep the running game going, okay, I 191 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: think they got a good chance to be there. 192 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: They clearly had a conservative game plan in that game. 193 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: If you had a D like this and you had 194 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: good DS. 195 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 5: I don't know if you had a D like this, 196 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 5: But if you had a D like this, would you 197 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 5: be that conservative offensively or would you take some more chances, thinking, 198 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 5: all right, if I turn it over a time or two, 199 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: give my defense short fields, I still feel competent that 200 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: that we can get it done. 201 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 3: You know you're talking to here by the way, right, 202 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: you're about the conservative stuff. You know that. Yeah, but 203 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: it couldn't help throw the ball? 204 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah he was No, I would you have a good point. 205 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: But I don't think you think I don't think they 206 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: think that way. I don't think that you're you're the 207 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. Your job is to score points. That's what 208 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 4: your job is. To move the ball down the field 209 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: and get in there as many times as you can. 210 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: How you do it, then you gotta develop that and 211 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: and call the game that way. 212 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 213 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 4: The offensive coordinator, I don't think is thinking about what 214 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: the defense is doing necessarily. Now the head coach in 215 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: his role, like like you know, he might be it's 216 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: on the phones mentioning some things to Clint, you know, 217 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: because the defense if he has a feeling like the 218 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: defense is shutting them down, and we can do this 219 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: the whole game. Right, But no, I think they're His 220 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: job is to score points, and I think he's going 221 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: to develop the game plan that way and call the 222 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: game that way. 223 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll bet I agree with him. Now I 224 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 3: think you're wrong. 225 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: Well, of course, I'm truly glad to be back. 226 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: I just I just think what's impressed me guys about 227 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: the Seahawk football team. 228 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: And I'm being half a smart I sorry. I hope 229 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: you know that, right. 230 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I come on, I gotta trigger the same 231 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: way this year I did for the last twenty five years. 232 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: I think their most impressive trait as a football team, 233 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: at least on offense, is that they can win games 234 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: a variety of different ways. They got a power the 235 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: ball down your throat. Now they can do it. They're 236 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: gonna throw it now. 237 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: They can do it. 238 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: If they need special teams now, they can do it. 239 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: If they need defense to lead the way, they certainly 240 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: can do that. I think this football team absolutely is 241 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: influenced in some ways by the way their defense played. 242 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: I mean, they had three drives in the game on 243 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: Saturday night that yielded no points, but they took a 244 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: third of the game off the clock twenty minutes in 245 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: that game versus San Francisco. So do you feel that way, Mike, 246 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: that this is a football team that can come that 247 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: year from four or five different angles. 248 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, they can. They can. But here I will disagree 249 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: with you. Oh see, you know, believable. But they won 250 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: thirteen to three, right, correct? How many games are you 251 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: gonna win? And when you score thirteen points? How many games? 252 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: Not many? 253 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: If you're not many at all? Yeah, yeah, you know. 254 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 4: And so there have been times this season first half 255 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: six to six, first half six to three, first half 256 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: nine to whatever it would, you know, And so they've 257 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: been Indianapolis, poor kid. I just think back at some 258 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 4: of these games, you know, Carolina, and. 259 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 5: They pulled back, guys, because they're pulling back offensively, and 260 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 5: I mean maybe too much. 261 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Well, but here, but here's the point though, guys, So 262 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: in Mike, You're right, if you score thirteen points on average, 263 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: you're not going to win a lot of games. There's 264 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: no question about that. But it should have been twenty six. 265 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: Let's let's be honest. Jason Myers missed his two field goals, right, 266 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,479 Speaker 2: They have first and goal with the one. 267 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: And they get nothing. Okay, we can ask you about 268 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: that in a second. 269 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, Dick, the field goal that 270 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: the Niners had, did that not come off the Jason 271 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: Myers kickoff out of bounds where the Niners had the 272 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: bought the forty yard league? And did I mean they gave? 273 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: They gave sixteen points away. That's a sixteen. 274 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: Point swing, thirteen for us and three for them. How 275 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: about that? 276 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 5: Look at this, coh go ahead, Pete Samill reporting Demon 277 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: Williams Junior leaning towards return to Washington. 278 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: Hell no, was he listening to what I said? 279 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: It may have been. Well, both of you guys just 280 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: said you would take him back. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 281 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad I said that about you. Coach can be five. 282 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: I don't think I would take him back, but I 283 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: may not have any choice. By the way, if he 284 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: comes back. Really funny, There's a reason why I asked 285 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: you guys that question if you'd take him back, because 286 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: you know that. No, I just had a weird, funny 287 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: feeling that is this over? Like this is the again? 288 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: What did we talk about yesterday? Never expect anything to 289 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: happen the way you think it's gonna happen in college football. 290 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: And this is example. 291 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: And twenty of that that if Demon Williams returns to Washington, 292 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: oh my god, dude, he's gonna have to have a 293 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: press conference, he's gonna have to answer questions, he's gonna 294 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: have to make amends with his coaches, his players. There's 295 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: a part of me, guys, I will be totally honest 296 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: with you. If this is true and if he does return, 297 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a horrible idea. 298 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: I think it's a bad idea for Washington man. 299 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: If he struggles, if he comes back and doesn't play well, 300 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: I think fans are gonna be chomping at the bit 301 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: to kill this guy. 302 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: You know what? 303 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 6: Really quickly, sorry, let me just correct, Dick. Have you 304 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 6: checked the sourcing on that? And win DESPN TV? 305 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: We just watching the bottom line on ESPN. 306 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: What have you been taught. 307 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: On the on the pre game. 308 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: What have we been taught ever since we were little kids? 309 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, girls, girls, and what else? 310 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: What else? You gotta be able to forgive. And that's 311 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: why I could see him and he would send him 312 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: that young man comes into the office, Jed's office, and 313 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 4: they're gonna have a long talk about what if there's 314 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: a press conference about how we're gonna approach this, admit 315 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: and then admit some things I screwed up or whatever, 316 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: whoever it goes, please give me another time so you know, 317 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: they can phrase it a certain way that will allow 318 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: him to get a little start on the road back. 319 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: And that's why the from the very beginning, like, okay, 320 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: move on, who's the next quarterback of Washington? 321 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: That's what I want to know. Who's the next quarterback 322 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: of Washington? 323 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: Well, if demand's William is the next quarterback of Washington, 324 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 5: then I don't have to answer that question anymore. But 325 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 5: Softy's right, is gonna have to be lots of reparations, 326 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: lots like. 327 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 4: And if he gets a slow starter, you're. 328 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: Right exactly it, he's gonna get crushed. 329 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: And can you imagine, let's say Dick for example, Sam 330 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: Levitt goes to Tennessee and kills it down there, and 331 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: Demon Williams comes back and doesn't play well in Seattle. 332 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, guys, I just think it's a bad idea. 333 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm on record now. I mean I told you this, 334 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: and I told Jackson this, and I'll say it again. 335 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Whoever's on the roster in September gets my full support 336 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: and loyalty as a Husky fan. I don't expect anybody 337 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: to return the following year. That's what college football has become. 338 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: But this is going to be such a potential distraction 339 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: for this football team. Jetfish is going to have to 340 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: find a way to get through this in the offseason, 341 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: to get everybody on board to make this work. And 342 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: this just feels like a lot of work to be done. 343 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: Man. 344 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what, based on what we 345 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: just saw there. Oh, I'm gonna change my mind. I'm 346 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: with you, You're with me now? 347 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know what we're talking to. 348 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: Forgive me, forgive me, I'm asking for forgiveness. 349 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: What are we talking about now? For crier out loud, unbelievable. Well, uh, 350 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: here's what we'll do. Jackson we'll keep Mike until four 351 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: thirty nine. Why don't we do this? Why don't we 352 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: take some texts we can play at four forty five 353 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: if that's cool with you, Jackson, and we'll get fans thoughts. 354 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: Do you want Demon Williams back? Pete Fammeil? Right, we 355 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: just saw it on TV, Dick. I mean we are 356 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: watching ESPN. That's not like the Onion Chandler or stuck. Okay, 357 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: Pete Famill reporting on ESPN that he's hearing Devon Williams 358 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: is leaning towards returning to ub Do you want him back? 359 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: Four nine, four to five one end the story? 360 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: Yes or no? So we'll get to that coming up 361 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: at a minute. But Mike, back to the Seahawks for 362 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: a second. You mentioned the running game, right, So the 363 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: last three games one hundred and seventy, one hundred and 364 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: sixty three and one hundred and eighty yards against the 365 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: forty nine ers is the running game now back to 366 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: a point where we can now count on it as 367 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Seahawks fans. 368 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: I think he can you know of Sharbernet and it's 369 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: both of them. Both of them have have shown really good, 370 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: good games. And so you go, where do you go 371 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: do you go to the offensive line? And I think 372 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: when you start to that and you feel game after 373 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: game it's working, it's coming all of a sudden that 374 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: offensive line is geled, whereas before there have been some 375 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: some times where you say, hey, they're not getting it 376 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: done up front and Cross and think of this, Cross 377 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: has been hurt. He hasn't even played right last couple 378 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: of weeks. Yeah, correct, you know, And so that that 379 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: tells me that they But I would temper it with 380 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: the fact that they played against teams that were either 381 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: injured or in a bad situation on defense up front, 382 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: and so that combination allowed it to be better, maybe 383 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: a little bit better than it is. Well, I know 384 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: your favorite play of the game. 385 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: I texted you after that. 386 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: You did third and seventeen give the ball to Ken 387 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 5: Walker for twenty one? 388 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, what'd you think of that? 389 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: Coach? 390 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: Well, I just thought they should have run the draw 391 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: instead of the pitch. By the way, right, I watched 392 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: that and did you see on television what John Lynch 393 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: did and he was so mad? 394 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: Well I was. 395 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: I did the same thing. I put my end, I 396 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: go what did And you know what? San Francisco ahead, 397 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: They're good on a they're not very good on defense 398 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: right now, they're really not very good on defense. But 399 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: they're third and seventeen. Now, you talked, Dave, you talked 400 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: earlier about that game. It could have been worse, sure, 401 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 4: but there were a couple of times it should have 402 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: been worse. But there were also times that they got away. 403 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: They did stuff that you don't normally get. They run 404 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 4: that play ten times, they get it once. 405 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: Right, and then McCaffrey the interception, he catches that ball. Yeah, 406 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: let's face it, right, nine times out of ten for sure. Okay, 407 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: So all right, well this is another bombshell Thursday. Pete 408 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: Fammell of ESPN just threw it up on TV. Have 409 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: you seen anything Jackson on Twitter yet? By the way, 410 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: about this. 411 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 6: Matt Zennetce of CBS, he's a national college football reporter 412 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 6: for CBS Sports, says despite the developments over the last 413 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 6: couple of days, Washington would still welcome demon Williams back 414 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 6: to the team and is hoping for him to remain 415 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 6: the program. 416 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: Well, we just put a poll out on Twitter. 417 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: It's only early one hundred and eighty votes in seventy 418 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 2: seven to twenty three percent. No, they do not want 419 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: Demon Williams back at Washington. So guys, this is the 420 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: environment they're gonna have to deal with. And I got 421 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: a lot of I got a lot more thoughts on 422 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: this man. This is wow. We'll come back and chat 423 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: more about this with Mike. More on the NFL playoffs 424 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: on the Hawks. Next with a five twenty on ninety 425 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: three three KJRFM from. 426 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: The R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now back 427 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: to Softie and Dick on your home for the Huskies, 428 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 429 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: three KJR FM. 430 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: All right, we're back here at the five twenty bar 431 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: and grill. 432 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: We are now all of a sudden keeping an eye 433 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: on the Demon Williams story for a lot of other reasons. 434 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: Pete Famill of ESPN just reported we we actually saw 435 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: something that we don't normally see, and that's breaking news on. 436 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: TV versus social media, right right. 437 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: And if I hadn't been looking up on the TV, 438 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: or if you hadn't been looking at the TV, would 439 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: totally miss the thing. 440 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: I had laser surgery because I was looking at that 441 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 5: TV way over there. 442 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 4: And I said, does that see? 443 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: Demand is leaning to and then I had to look 444 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: at this. 445 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: One up well, Pete Fandle recording that Demon Williams is 446 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: leaning towards returning to Washington, saying it's not done. 447 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 3: The decision is imminent but not final. 448 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: So I would absolutely keep it right here, because the 449 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: minute something's announced, we're gonna have it for you right 450 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: here on ninety three to three kJ IRFM. We're gonna 451 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: kind of move a few things around here. Humil one's 452 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: gonna hop on the air with us at five o'clock 453 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: tonight and give us his thoughts on this story. We 454 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: may even have some official news by then, guys, in 455 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: the next thirty two minutes here now, by five o'clock. 456 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: So we'll follow this, but we've got to pull out 457 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: on Twitter right now, asking people if they would want 458 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: Demon Williams back at Washington. At nine hundred votes in 459 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: so far, seventy eight percent say no, twenty two percent 460 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: say yes they would want Demon Williams back at UDUB. 461 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: So that's what this situation so far right Dick has 462 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: created for you, Dub. 463 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think those opinions, and I'm glad you asked 464 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: us before this came back whether we whether we would 465 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: have him back or not. Home Coach holmgrend I aren 466 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 5: on record as the saying we would take him back 467 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 5: if you ever want to, But I thought. 468 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: There was a zero percent chance of that actually happening. 469 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 5: But I think after a apology, after you know, a 470 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 5: public showing, and after ripping up the first four teams, 471 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 5: he's going to play because we know how demand Williams 472 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 5: plays against the not very good teams in college football. 473 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: He's unbelievable. 474 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: I think people will be back on his you know, 475 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 5: bandwagon by October. 476 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: How about you? How would you handle this with with him? 477 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: If you're a coach and you know that the entire 478 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: fan base strong majority, right yeah, is turned off by 479 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: you and what you the decision you made, Your agent 480 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: dumped you because of this. How do you handle this 481 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: if you're jedfish to try to get him back where 482 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: he needs to be with the community. 483 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: Well, I think I feel that I don't know this, 484 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: but I think they probably had a long conversation before 485 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: this all started. Okay, and so you know, he's been 486 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: with him, He came here, brought him here from Arizona, 487 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: you know, all that kind of stuff. So they they've 488 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 4: been together and he's been successful now together, and so 489 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: he leaves right now, he all of a sudden, I'd 490 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: be disappointed if I was the coach. But then all 491 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: of a sudden he wants to come back, or something happens, 492 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 4: he goes, he could come in. I made a mistake, 493 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: take me back, and I take him back. But then 494 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 4: we'd sit down and say, Okay, here's what do you 495 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: have to do. And to Dick's point and to your point, 496 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: not so much to your point, because you wouldn't take 497 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: him back, but I mean if you take it. And 498 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: I understand that, David, I really do. I don't play 499 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: but you, but you you sit him down and you go, Okay, 500 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 4: here's how we have to handle this and kind of 501 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: counsel him through, getting the fans back on inside, getting 502 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 4: the people here on inside, and nothing's going to change 503 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: too much until he starts winning games, and he's going 504 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: to if he comes back. Yeah, and then, like I said, 505 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be okay, but you have to 506 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 4: sit down and have a serious talk about how we're 507 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 4: gonna handle this. 508 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 509 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you can just brush this turn 510 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: of the rock. I don't think you can just deny 511 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: him in appearance with the media absolu. I mean, you know, 512 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: Jedfish the way that he's run his football program, at 513 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: least with the players in the media. This is not 514 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: the university, by the way, and it's definitely not the 515 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 2: sports information department. This is what Jed has wanted. Since 516 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: he's been the head coach at Washington. Player availability has 517 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: been minimal at Washington compared to Kaln de boor you 518 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: know that, right, it's been totally different. Trots out a 519 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: couple of players a week, sometimes four players a week 520 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: and that's it. So the opportunities to talk to de 521 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: Mont Williams sometimes there are very few and far between. 522 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: Well. The other thing is I think would help is 523 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 4: you have team leaders. Right, He's not the only guy, right, 524 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: you have team leaders. Those guys have to come out 525 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: on his you know, and talk about having him back 526 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: and what it means and we're to have him back 527 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff coming from his from 528 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: his teammates. 529 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 5: I think demand needs to not only show, you know, remorse, 530 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: he needs to be straight with us as to why 531 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 5: he did this, because I think the fan base will 532 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 5: sniff out a lie so easily. He is gonna come 533 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 5: out and say, listen, so and so called me. I 534 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 5: was like, it's two million dollars more than I was 535 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 5: making here, I'm taking the two million. I mean, he 536 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 5: just needs to fall on his knees and say this 537 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: is what I did. Because if he tries to make 538 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: some bs up, people are gonna sniff right through that 539 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: and not forgive him. 540 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: You know, it's your point tick And that's what college 541 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: football now drives me cuckoo, because you have kids. Heck, 542 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 4: I remember Karan Robinson coming in after we drafted number one, 543 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: from a very very poor background, not much there. All 544 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 4: of a sudden he gets this money coming in the 545 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: NFL and all of a sudden, Oh, it's like he 546 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 4: hit the lotto, you know, the lottery. You want it? 547 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: What a kid if depending on his background, I don't 548 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: know what his background is, but all of a sudden 549 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 4: you four million, six million dollars. Oh yeah, and you 550 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: and he kind of it screws up your thinking a 551 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: little bit. 552 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 553 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: I just I just think he's got to be coached 554 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: up on what to say. I mean, everything's going to 555 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: be nitpicked, Dick. I understand that, you know, but I 556 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: just think you just you just own it. From the start. 557 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: You don't blame anybody, you say, you know what, I 558 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: just I messed up. You know, maybe I got some 559 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: bad advice whatever, but I screwed up, and I. 560 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: Apologize and ask for forgiveness, and he asked. 561 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: For forgiveness, and you move on. You don't, you don't, 562 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: you don't. You don't say anything about money or whatever. 563 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: You just say, you know what, I'm a human being. 564 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: I screwed up. 565 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I could write this damn thing absolutely. 566 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 4: You know. 567 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 2: I understand the criticism. I understand why people were upset 568 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 2: with me. I'm supposed to be the leader of this 569 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: football team, and I wanted to quit on this football team. 570 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: And I understand why. 571 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: You, you and you and you are upse that with me. 572 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: I don't blame you whatsoever. That's on me. And all 573 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: I can do now is show you that I'm contrite. 574 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: I can show you that I am authentic in my apology, 575 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go out and represent this university in 576 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: the best way possible I can. And oh, by the way, 577 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guarantee you a fourth year right now, right, 578 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: I mean. 579 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: Honestly, like you, just you, you have got to own this. 580 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: You have to own it from the start, like, this 581 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 2: is your kid telling him to own it. 582 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: So I don't know, man, this is gonna be wild. 583 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 3: As you ask me at the beginning of the show, 584 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: You're like, do you feel a little bit? Oh god, 585 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: this is gonna be a soap opera? 586 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 5: Man, the hustle football is going to be in the 587 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 5: center of the college football world. 588 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: What did I say at the start of the show 589 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: to you? Remember when I asked you, well, you asked me. 590 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 5: If I had had any if I felt sorry at all, right, 591 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 5: And I said I didn't, right, but I said a 592 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: little bit of me did, And almost I almost feel 593 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 5: more sorry for him now because of what he is 594 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 5: going to have to go through over the next couple 595 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 5: of weeks. 596 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 3: This is gonna be the gauntlet for Demand Williams. 597 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 4: You guys ever had it? Has he come on the show? 598 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: And oh many times? Yeah, he's been great. 599 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: You know the kid, but of course. 600 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 7: I mean we had him on live during springball. He 601 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 7: was phenomenal. I just talked to the guy. I think 602 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 7: it was before the Orton game or whatever it was. 603 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 7: I had no issue with him. He was freaking great 604 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 7: in person. Once took her on. 605 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: The phone, But that happens to a lot of kids 606 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: and interview settings. So I thought he was fine, Jackson, 607 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: you got. 608 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: Something back there? Nothing? Yeah, okay, I thought you were mumbling. 609 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 610 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 5: That must have been my brain. Yeah, there's a lot 611 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 5: going on in our brains right now. My brain's scrambled. 612 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 5: Was the marbles moving around in my brain? 613 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 3: All right? 614 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: Well, Mike, before we get to some texts on this 615 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: next segment, A lot of coaches will say things like, 616 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: you know what, we don't. 617 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: Care who we're playing. We're ready for anybody. 618 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 2: And they'll say that in public, which is what you're 619 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: supposed to say in public, obviously. But if you're coaching 620 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: this football team RAM, San Francisco, Carolina, Green Bay, is 621 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: there anybody you're kind of thinking, Yeah, we kind of 622 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: match up with those guys better, and I would love 623 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: for that team to win so we can see them one. 624 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, the other the other teams, The one team that 625 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: I think would be most turning to me, the Rams. 626 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: You know, they've they've they've played them tough, they know them. 627 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: Both teams are good, you know, there have been real 628 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 4: weaknesses shown by the other teams, you know, in Green 629 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: Bayers example, they've they've finished. I think they lost five 630 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: in a row, you know, the last five games, So 631 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 4: I think it goes through your mind. But then you say, 632 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 4: you got to be prepared. I go back to the 633 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 4: time I was with San Francisco and we played we 634 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: were the number one seed, and then we practiced for 635 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: two weeks and Bill coach Walsh just killed the guys 636 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: just for two weeks, and we practiced for two teams, 637 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: specifically for two teams. Then we wound up playing Minnesota 638 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: and they beat us. They beat us, and they were 639 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: like the sixth seed or something like that. 640 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: They weren't one of the teams that you were preparing for. 641 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: No, and when they beat us, and it just shocked 642 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: and but we learned. I learned one and Bill kind 643 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: of said this. He by the time we got to 644 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 4: the game, we were white out. Yeah, everyone was tired. 645 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: So Mike, it's my understanding now, is giving the guys 646 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 4: off Friday, Saturday, Sunday coming, you know, and just practicing 647 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: next week normally. And that's, in my opinion, that's the 648 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: way to do it. That's what I would do it. 649 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: That's the kind of the Super Bowl. The two weeks 650 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl, Yes, but you have to have 651 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: you have to have some things ready for the possibility 652 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: of playing one team or another. 653 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 5: Did you like now, obviously you would rather have the 654 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 5: buy than not, or because you got a free win, 655 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 5: you've got the home game, absolutely, but did you did 656 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 5: you like the two weeks? So let's say in two 657 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: thousand and five, take us through what you did during 658 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 5: those two weeks in two thousand and five, and did 659 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: you feel like it was it was good that you 660 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 5: got the extra week. 661 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: I always think it was good. The first first reason 662 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: is guys that are knocked up and banged up and 663 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: sore and hurt, you got time to recover. So by 664 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: the time you get to the game normally you have 665 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: your whole roster is there available to you. That's the 666 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: first thing. The second thing is, in based on my 667 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: experience that had in San Francisco, the pacing of it 668 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: and the pacing of like going to the Super Bowl. 669 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: You know, you have that first week you're practicing and 670 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: you're having him think and you're having doing those things, 671 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: but really you don't get it cranked up until that 672 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: second week then, and so just the pace of it, 673 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: so you're not the players aren't ready to play the 674 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: game Thursday. They got to be ready Sunday. Yeah, you know. 675 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, man, We're sitting here talking football 676 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: one of the all time great coaches in the history 677 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: of the NFL, and my mind is just blowing. Do 678 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: I seem distracted to you? My mind is blown, man. 679 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no over this to mony. 680 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: You know what? No, but you know what, I think 681 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: I know you well. How long have we I. 682 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 3: Known you twenty seven years? 683 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I know you well enough to 684 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: know that you sit there, dick, you and I will 685 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: take over. Okay, we're the rest of the show. 686 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 5: Okay,