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Speaker 1: Human from the fish filled Midwest Lakes to the deep

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Speaker 1: woods of the North upland prairies filled with pheasants, to

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Speaker 1: the whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning,

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Speaker 1: Fan Outdoors, your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics

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Speaker 1: and conversations. You can also send us a question or

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Speaker 1: opinion by emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's

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Speaker 1: your host, the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Fan.

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Speaker 3: Outdoors, faithful, good morning to you this fine day, yep,

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Speaker 3: the twenty ninth day of November, and holy mackerel. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: they say, although it hadn't hit in the North metro yet,

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Speaker 3: there's a chance that we could get a whole little

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Speaker 3: bit more snow. And if you're further south listening, you

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Speaker 3: could get a lot more snow, like up to ten

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Speaker 3: inches or so. But you know, it is what it is,

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Speaker 3: and I've quit winding about it kind of for a

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Speaker 3: little bit, but it'll come back. It'll be back. I

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Speaker 3: guarantee you that. So sitting on the other side of

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Speaker 3: the table in KFA and World Studios is none other

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Speaker 3: than the see him one time, then you don't see him,

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Speaker 3: and you see him and you don't see him. That's

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Speaker 3: mister bomb sake, Pierre Good.

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Speaker 2: It feels different in here. Is it the light?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you just your memory is kind of foggy.

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Speaker 2: It might be the early morning. And there's new cameras well.

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Speaker 2: Are they on? No? Okay, So I don't think that's it,

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Speaker 2: although now I'm looking at it, there are new cameras.

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Speaker 2: Are the lights new or is it just we normally

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Speaker 2: have the lights off this early? Maybe you just have

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Speaker 2: I just haven't been here in so long yet. That

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Speaker 2: might be it. So I did not have any snow

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Speaker 2: there's snow falling here in Saint Louis Park and it's

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Speaker 3: Got off the three ninety four, and weather dot com

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Speaker 3: says it's been snowing a fair amount this evening across

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a pretty clean line of where

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Speaker 3: Well here, here I go again. They can have a

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's it's there's there is a fair amount

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Speaker 2: explore a little bit north today. Ah see, how see

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Speaker 2: how much snow there is? How far north are you going?

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Speaker 2: I think Kinkley? Okay, yeah, I'm gonna see if it's

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Speaker 2: my rough grouse season is over? Oh well, there there

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Speaker 2: is a season opening today. There's some of the final

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Speaker 2: my license yesterday, and uh it is.

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Speaker 3: Uh. The muzzleloader deer season statewide is opening this morning.

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Speaker 3: And if that's something that you do, I wish you success.

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Speaker 3: And I know I've talked with I talked with some

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Speaker 3: hunting antlers and I come on, man, go out and

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Speaker 3: and they're all they've got these these the big antlers

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Speaker 3: I don't care if it has antlers or for stan

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Speaker 2: So are you muzzle loading? Yeah? You are.

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Speaker 3: Are you at the cabin or closer to home? Oh,

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Speaker 3: as I had a conversation, I said, I guess that

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Speaker 2: Are you going today?

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Speaker 3: No? No, not. Eric is out. Eric is out, And

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Speaker 3: In fact, I see a text on my phone, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it won't tall. He's probably got one

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Speaker 3: So they had a good time, and I think he

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Speaker 2: This weekend as in right now or whoa.

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Speaker 3: And in some of the bays and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Of course there's some idiots up there too that are

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Speaker 2: Do you think they'll be fishable ice? I guess. I

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Speaker 3: I understand, not until today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I check things out today. I'll get back to ye.

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Speaker 3: And I do want to caution people on one thing. Well,

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Speaker 2: And you don't want them going through.

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Speaker 3: You don't want an accident to happen, and has happened

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Speaker 3: And I said on the air then, and I'll stick

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Speaker 3: any different, very honestly. But on that same kind of note,

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Speaker 3: be careful if you're going out with your hunting buddies,

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Speaker 3: know the dogs. Your responsibility is taking care of your dog.

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Speaker 3: That's really the bottom line. You are responsible for allowing

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you need to hold them back and tell them

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Speaker 3: know sometimes I think that there's some I know it's

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Speaker 2: Cold is cold. Yeah, cold is cold.

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Speaker 3: And when you go through, you go up to your

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Speaker 3: Of course I didn't. I was wet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's open water in southern Minists. Yeah, there's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, well maybe last night, yeah, and tomorrow it's

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Speaker 3: I haven't aversion to being cold when I hunt. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't like it. But if you're walking it's usually

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Speaker 2: You wear like four layers on opening day.

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Speaker 3: What can I say?

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Speaker 2: I'm not cold? Yeah, No, you're not cold. You're dripping.

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Speaker 3: But so it goes. Let's take our first pause of

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Speaker 3: a dad, mister Andy Peterson. Next we're back seventeen minutes

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Speaker 3: after the hour of six o'clock. My headphones have got

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Speaker 3: a short in it, and oh one ear, well, they're

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Speaker 2: I sat in that chair and had that happen?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Yeah, then was there we launch into?

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Speaker 3: I told Eric we would perhaps launch into some tree

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Speaker 2: Oh taking jabs at me?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I just do seventeen minutes. Can you report for us?

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Speaker 3: Would you like one? Yes? I would not today unless

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Speaker 3: I get really frazzled. Let's walk up into conversation our

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Speaker 3: and he is a deer hunter, also mister Andy Peterson,

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Speaker 3: and he's also the owner of the Wellman Sports Marketing too.

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Speaker 2: Andy. Good morning, sir, Good morning, Billy well Bob, good morning.

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Speaker 3: How tell us how the deer hunt went, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Deer hunting's gone really good and it's still going okay.

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Speaker 5: We're on the quest for Breeley, my daughter. She's fourteen.

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Speaker 5: She wants to shoot her first buck, and she's quite

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Speaker 5: I can't tell if she's a hunter or just very

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Speaker 5: picky because she's she's passed up some deer. But we're

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Speaker 5: having fun. We're enjoying it. Up at the farm. My

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Speaker 5: cousin Ken has done an awesome job this year with

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Speaker 5: food plots. He's done some milo, some greenery and then

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Speaker 5: was good during the postseason. But he was able to

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Speaker 5: shoot a nice ten pointer up near Hinckley. We got

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Speaker 6: They fucking.

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Speaker 5: Learning lessons though. That's that's the name of our game.

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Speaker 3: I see. Well, one year wasn't the same as her

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Speaker 6: So if it went from the seven pointer to the ten.

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Speaker 5: That one would have that one would have had some

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's just checking, because I don't know how serious

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Speaker 5: Now she's The funny part is is that I don't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of looking forward to it. Lakes are

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Do your kids ice fish too?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 5: He's been. He's gone out a couple of times on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very fun. Well how did your dad do?

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Speaker 5: But down there you can see for miles and it's.

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Speaker 5: Betting to Egg or just you can see him throughout

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well not that my headsets breaking up a little

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Speaker 5: I see a slightly larger one coming up that same trail.

436
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: I was still at full draw, and it did exactly

437
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 5: what I wanted to do. It went behind the tree

438
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 5: and I could see it moving through the tree a

439
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: little bit. In my head, I was like, this thing's toasted.

440
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: I'm tagged out. And he went up the trail. I

441
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: call called at it and knewed at him to stop,

442
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 5: and before I shot, I was like, this is over

443
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: with and I shot. And then the first thought that

444
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 5: ran through my head was that was low. And he

445
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 5: took off and I tracked it for a day and

446
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 5: a half and I never didn't recover it. So I'm

447
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: a little bummed out about that. It was and out

448
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: west there is always a lot different track. And then

449
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: here the soil of Kansas is similar to It's always

450
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: so dry, and when that blood hits the ground it's

451
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: hard to see you and looks different than it does

452
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: here at home. We could really only find where he

453
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: was going when he was in some soft soil and

454
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 5: he could track by a hoof prints, or when he

455
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: go the logs, he'd leave some shmear on the log

456
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 5: a little bit.

457
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 6: And we only were able to stay on it for

458
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: about a mile and a half and then it hit

459
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 6: a meadow and we lost it after the second day

460
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 6: of looking for it. But the good news was is

461
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 6: my brother about So I had shot at like seven thirty.

462
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 6: My brother shot a nice six point at about eight thirty,

463
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 6: and I had the whole herd come up the hill.

464
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 6: And it's kind of funny because typically in the morning

465
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 6: she hunted, start at the bottom and work your way

466
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: up just because your thermals are pulling down the hill

467
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 6: so you're not winning anything. And for whatever reason, this

468
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 6: spot had wind carving through the mountains coming up the

469
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 6: hill right at us, and we were up top and

470
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 6: I watched over sixty head an elk come up within

471
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 6: and around between fifty and ten yards of me. Go

472
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: to my brother, and I got video of a nice

473
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 6: six point that was thirty yards from me, And that's

474
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 6: one he ended up taking, and he had shot at

475
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 6: a bowl the year before and his freezer was full.

476
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: And he was, you know, now, what am I gonna do?

477
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: I gotta go buy another freezer. And I said, well,

478
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: how about you let me pay for the processing and

479
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 5: I take the meet home to my freezer and he says, well,

480
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 5: I'll take some of it, and I thought.

481
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: Well, that sounds like a good deal for both of Yeah, yeah, yeah.

482
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: Well that's a good deal. That's kind of fun. Do

483
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: you think the shot you made on the one that

484
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: you didn't find Andy was a fatal shot eventually or

485
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't that heal back up?

486
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: I think it was. There was. I found some debris

487
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 5: along the trail too, and they was spotted by another

488
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 5: one of our guys in the party in Marroads, some

489
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 5: stuff hanging from the side of it, So it was

490
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: it was. My shot was England down and it was low,

491
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 5: probably just slightly forward a mid and I don't I

492
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 5: don't think it will have survived. They're tough, but this

493
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 5: was important stuff to be able to continue.

494
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: Well, those things happen when you're hunting, too, as much

495
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: as you don't want it to ever happen, but it does. Yeah. Well, anyway, sir,

496
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm thanks for joining us, and it sounds like a

497
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: fun time.

498
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: It really does score. Will you let me.

499
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 5: Know, well, you'll you'll be on the text list.

500
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: For sure, okay, because we will make it another We'll

501
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: have to talk with her also, because that'll be a

502
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: great story to hear it from her and her side

503
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: on her point of view too. You got it, Andy,

504
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: Thanks man, and good luck. That's Andy Peterson Welman Sports Marketing.

505
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: And he's a really really.

506
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: Good guy and he's a great dad too. And I hope,

507
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: really I wish you. I wish your success be kind

508
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: of fun, wouldn't it.

509
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: It would be it would be helped you out out

510
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: compete her brother.

511
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: I bet she does. She will, and she sounds very persistent,

512
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: very determined. Yes, yes, we will take a pause and

513
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: be back with mister Mark Kurtz and talking fishing, hunting

514
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: and what's going on down in Texas. Right after this,

515
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: we're back and Oldurs coming your way until the eight

516
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: o'clock hour. Bob Saint Pierre Pheasants Forever is in studio

517
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: for a short time next week too. Oh okay, then

518
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to disappear a little bit yeah, Well, I'm

519
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: we're used to Brett and I are used to you

520
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: just kind of fighting. Yeah. I don't know what it is,

521
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: but you just kind of bounce around. So that's the

522
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: way it goes. We just were thankful when you're here.

523
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: When you're not, we miss you. Our next guest is

524
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: a man that I have known for all gosh a

525
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: long time, and he makes his living fishing. Part of

526
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: his limit I think is living, but he is.

527
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

528
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: He's also a hunter turkey turk shoots turkeys out as

529
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: we could out his backyard, I believe, and sounds familiar

530
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: my dime down the driveway, You're right down the driveway.

531
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: But he also hunts pheasants and guides for pheasants. Also

532
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: from courts Pro angler Mark Quartz. It joins us right now. Mark.

533
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: Good morning, sir, Good morning guys. How are you well.

534
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 8: I'm still in a little shock. I got off the

535
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 8: plane late last night from South Texas and I woke

536
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 8: up to this gross white stuff on the ground. A

537
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 8: little little culture shock, but yeah, you know it's uh,

538
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 8: it's good. I'm doing really good.

539
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: You know, you'll get no sympathy from me, man, I'm

540
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 3: just telling you, I'm I'm killing the world's greatest whiner

541
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: about snow and now.

542
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 8: So you know I did something for the first time

543
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 8: in my life. Billy, what's that? I actually duck hunted

544
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 8: in shorts.

545
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, gracious, how was it?

546
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 8: And it was. I'm gonna tell you you know how

547
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 8: nice it is to sit in the duck blind in shorts.

548
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 8: It's amazing not be bundled up like a snowman. You

549
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 8: actually shoot well, you know, you're not trying to get

550
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 8: the gun around four layers of.

551
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: Clo There might be alligators in them waters.

552
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 8: There is, yeah, alligators. We did not see any of those,

553
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 8: so I wasn't too worried about it. But no, what

554
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 8: an amazing trip. We went down and filmed a couple

555
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 8: episodes for Lake Commandos and and got a day in

556
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 8: that it was windy and rainy, and we took the

557
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 8: airboat and went and I seen the most amazing thing

558
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 8: I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen that

559
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 8: many redheads in one area. I mean, really, tens of

560
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 8: thousands of redheads. It's absolutely amazing.

561
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Well, tell us about Lake Commandos and I read some

562
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: things about it. As you were being asked to take

563
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: over tell everybody what Lake Commandos if they don't have

564
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: television or they don't have cable, what it is and

565
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 3: what you're doing.

566
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I was lucky enough Steve Panas asked me

567
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 8: to take over Lake Commandos after he had hosted it

568
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 8: for thirteen years. I was lucky enough beyond all thirteen

569
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 8: years of that show, and so he asked myself and

570
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 8: Chad Cool who's a producer, to take it over, and

571
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 8: so we took it over in August. I guess is

572
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 8: when the final I guess when we actually took it over.

573
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 8: So we kind of were in a scramble point and

574
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 8: had to get thirteen episodes of TV done. So we're

575
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 8: sitting on twelve right now, and we've got one more

576
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 8: episode to go at will air Quarters one and two

577
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 8: on Outdoor Channel and then it goes to World Fishing

578
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 8: Network and then it goes to MLDTV, which is YouTube

579
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 8: and then that. So, yeah, we're doing a lot of

580
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 8: fun things. We're going to a lot of great places.

581
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 8: We're down Okoboja, Iowa catching some walleyes. We've been out

582
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 8: to South Dakota and caught small mouth bass and crappies.

583
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 8: So yeah, you're going to see a lot of different

584
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 8: techniques used around the Midweest and even down south. So

585
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 8: we're going to have a couple of salt water shows

586
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 8: in this year. So it's a lot of fun. It's

587
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 8: been It's definitely been different, you know from my daily

588
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 8: life of fishing tournaments, going out and producing TV. But

589
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 8: it's been a lot of fun and I've really enjoyed it.

590
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 8: It's just taken away from a little bit of hunting

591
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 8: this fall.

592
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: Have you learned things that you didn't really know you

593
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: had to know?

594
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there's a lot more to TV, right, Billy.

595
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 8: I Mean it's not just go out and catch as

596
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 8: many fish as you can, and you got to be

597
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 8: able to talk about what you're doing, and you know,

598
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 8: be able to fish multiple species, which I'm very comfortable

599
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 8: doing it. I mean I fish salt water for most

600
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 8: of my life, and so yeah, it's been a learning curves.

601
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 8: It's the whole you know, make sure the camera's in

602
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 8: the right spot at the right time, and and doing

603
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 8: all the extras to make sure you produce a great show.

604
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 3: Well, you're going to do very well at it, Mark,

605
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: I know that, and I congratulate.

606
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, all wise it's been good. Went out

607
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 8: South Dkota into the Veterans hunt. On the day before

608
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 8: Veterans Day, we took a bunch of veterans out to

609
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 8: Crest Park, South Dakota and filmed the episode of American

610
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 8: Heroes out there, which I'm on the board for American

611
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 8: Heroes Outdoors, which is another television show that airs on

612
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 8: the Outdoor Channel. And then we went further west and

613
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 8: we've actually had planned on doing a lot of pheasant,

614
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 8: but when we get out there, the crops were all

615
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 8: in yet, so we had sunflowers and corn in and

616
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 8: there was a little thousands of birds out there. The

617
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 8: hatch looked really good. Actually seeing a ton of hungarian

618
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 8: so that was really cool to see, and a ton

619
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 8: of sharp tails, so we did kill a few while

620
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 8: we were out there, but then we were lucky enough

621
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 8: to kill a really big white tail. So it's been Yeah,

622
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 8: it's been a great fall.

623
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: That sounds like it.

624
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: You often have great falls, buddy, I'm just selling them.

625
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: Know.

626
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 8: It's normally my season is it goes into October and

627
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 8: then I have, you know, a good majority of the

628
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 8: fall to go hunting and guiding and and things like that.

629
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 8: And with the TV thing. I just haven't had that

630
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 8: much time. So I hunted Minnesota deer hunted Minnesota opening weekend,

631
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 8: and then took off for self goota right way. So yeah,

632
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 8: we've been h it's been busy and I'm not complaining.

633
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 8: Fishing has been phenomenal. We got lucky with probably one

634
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 8: of the best balls that we've had in a long time,

635
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 8: with being able to get on the water, with water

636
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 8: temperatures being right and everything, so it was. It's been

637
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 8: a great fall. And now I'm sure everybody's excited about,

638
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 8: you know, getting ready to go ice fishing.

639
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they are, too, Mark, And I know

640
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: that you one of your one of your main or

641
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: primary sponsors is Pure Fishing, And I also I got

642
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: some emails this last week from from it from Pure

643
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: Fishing about some of the hard tackle, some of the

644
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 3: not new ones, but they were new to me and

645
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen them before and I've been leaning real

646
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: hard on flicker shads for the last few years.

647
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: Wow, you rarely share that sort of information, So wait,

648
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: color you want to share? Well, I can't find them anymore.

649
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 8: I'm sure I probably know a guy, Billy that has.

650
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: Some well okay, well we'll talk. But it's then the

651
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: one of the baits, and I can't remember what they

652
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: called it, but it reminded me of a flicker shad,

653
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: just a little bit wider wobble than that.

654
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 8: And the money bag. The money badger, is that what

655
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 8: it is?

656
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah.

657
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 8: We built a standard money badger, and then we also

658
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 8: came out this fall with the shallow money Badger, so

659
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 8: we really covered episode like one to three foot all

660
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 8: the way to twenty twenty foot.

661
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Huh.

662
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: Well, they and the waters that I fish are everything's well,

663
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: that's not everything, but I fishell, it's just me, but

664
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: I fish well and we do very well, and it's yeah,

665
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: it's it's but the hard baits. I had never fished

666
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: really very much hard bait. But man, I'm loving this.

667
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: So that's great stuff. I just it really is.

668
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 8: You know, it's been really fun. And that's one of

669
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 8: the companies that I spend a lot of time with,

670
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 8: and we design a ton of baits. And Dan Spangler,

671
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 8: who's a hardbat designer. I don't know if that kid's

672
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 8: mind ever shuts off. I mean it's every day he's

673
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 8: got a new lewer. He sent his pictures of and

674
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 8: and we're testing and a lot of people don't understand

675
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 8: that a lot of these baits that we produced take

676
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 8: two to three years to get to a final product.

677
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 8: You know, you'll get a concept and then you'll get

678
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 8: prototypes and then you go out and fish them. We

679
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 8: actually do tests against baits that we're trying to look

680
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 8: at and figure out what it's going to take to

681
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 8: get that same action or if there were feel like

682
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 8: we're missing something in the water column, you know, we

683
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 8: try to design a bait for that. So, I mean,

684
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 8: Dan is just an absolute genius when it comes to

685
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 8: building hard baits. And and that's the unique thing about

686
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 8: Berkeley versus a lot of the other companies. We have

687
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 8: a test facility that we actually can record vibrations, we

688
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 8: can we have an underground tank that we can actually

689
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 8: go down under. It's twenty foot deep, so you can

690
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 8: see a dive curve. There's a lot to it. And

691
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 8: that's the that's the super cool thing about the Berkeley

692
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 8: Labs is that's really what it is. It's it's a

693
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 8: lab and and the guys do a great job down

694
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 8: in Spirit Lake, Iowa.

695
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: Well, when you're talking about the creation of the baits

696
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 3: mark are they created to something. Let let's say that

697
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: you have an idea. Are they created that idea or

698
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: are they created to imitate or both.

699
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: Both?

700
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 8: Really, you know, when you look at a lot of

701
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 8: the technologies today, whether we talk about forward facing sonar

702
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 8: or you know, just sonar in general, you start to

703
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 8: try to figure out how you can get a bait

704
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 8: to certain depths or you know, fish certain water columns,

705
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 8: and and so when you start designing a bait, is

706
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 8: it is it going to be a casting bait? Is

707
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 8: it going to be a trolling bait? You know, those

708
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 8: are the first two things you look at. Is it

709
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 8: going to be a shallow bait or a deep bait?

710
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: Uh?

711
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 8: Is it going to be a wide wobb or is

712
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 8: it going to be a super tight wobble. Is it

713
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 8: going to have rattles or no rattles? So there's a

714
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 8: lot that goes into it. And and that's the thing

715
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 8: like when we're testing, and some will have rattles, some won't.

716
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 8: And is it a weight transfer system? Because if it's

717
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 8: a casting bait, you want to wait transfer system so

718
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 8: that bait casts a long ways. So when when you

719
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 8: talk about baits and looking for certain actions. That's really

720
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 8: what it comes down to. And so and then it

721
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 8: has to catch fish, right, I mean, that's ultimately the goal,

722
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 8: is it to be able to catch fish. And and

723
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 8: so not only do we have fish down there in

724
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 8: our lab that we can actually run baits around and

725
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 8: count how many times they strike it or go after it,

726
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 8: how they react to it.

727
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 7: Do they turn away?

728
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 8: Do they keep going after it if they don't, you know,

729
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 8: because we don't obviously have books on them there, so

730
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 8: do they keep going after it and hitting it multiple times?

731
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 8: And then once we figure that out in the lab,

732
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 8: then we take them out in the real world situation.

733
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 8: And you know, we do a lot of testing up

734
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 8: in Fergus Fall area. We do a lot of testing

735
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 8: in the Dakotas. So we go to lakes where we

736
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 8: can catch a lot of fish, but then do tests

737
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 8: to see, okay, does the rattles make a difference on

738
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 8: on this particular bait or you know, we might have

739
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 8: two wobbles, one tight one and one wide one. And

740
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 8: so then you really just put it head to head.

741
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 8: And that's how we come up with the baits that

742
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 8: we come up with.

743
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: Mark.

744
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: We have to take a pause Can you stay with

745
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: us for a segment?

746
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 8: Absolutely wonderful.

747
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: Our guest is Mark Quartz. We're talking. I don't know

748
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: what we're talking. We're kind of bouncing all over hunting

749
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: and fishing and duck hunting. We're gonna ask Mark about

750
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: duck hunting and shorts too. That is a unique thing,

751
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: and I think it's kind of cool, very cool actually.

752
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: But we'll take that pause and we'll be right back

753
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: with more Mark Quartz after this.

754
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Did you catch that that bumper? Coming back to guaranteed human?

755
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: I want to vouch that you're human. You have no

756
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: idea what I'm referencing. Welcome back to stand out Doors Captain.

757
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: Three minutes after the hour of seven o'clock, Classic Bob

758
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Saint Pierre going on here in the break.

759
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 2: Guaranteed human.

760
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, gee, I have no clue what he's talking about,

761
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: but we'll just leave it at that.

762
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: It's not artificial intelligence, it's Captain. Oh yeah, that's human.

763
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: I can guarantee that guarantee.

764
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: Our guest, our guest right now is mister Mark Courtz,

765
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: and we've been talking creation of tackle and heartbeats from Berkeley,

766
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: of which he is pretty deeply involved. And it's kind

767
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: of interesting too, Okay, Mark, I think that I think

768
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: a lot of us, myself included, kind of take for

769
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: granted that you go into his and these baits just come.

770
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: It's like an egg. You just hatch it and they

771
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: show up. And I don't think we really understand or

772
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: realize all the planning and the testing and everything that

773
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 3: goes into them before they get on the shelf. Pretty amazing,

774
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: it is, Billy.

775
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 8: And when you look at not only just hard bats

776
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 8: soft baits, I mean, you know, we've got a lot

777
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 8: of super super cool stuff. I was down in Charleston,

778
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 8: South Carolina, and we've got a facility down there and

779
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 8: we were going over new products coming out and for

780
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 8: twenty six and I mean, it's just super cool to see,

781
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 8: you know, what these guys are doing. And we've got

782
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 8: some mad scientists when it comes to sense and bait

783
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 8: colors and things like that too. So yeah, I really

784
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 8: look forward to the future. And that's one of the

785
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 8: things that you know, like you said, people don't take

786
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: for it because there is so many new baits out

787
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 8: there and new sense and new technology and plastics and

788
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 8: all those things.

789
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: You know.

790
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 8: I mean, if we look back, you know, the Gulf

791
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 8: Minimal still today is probably one of the most used

792
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 8: baits around the country, whether you talk about panfish, whether

793
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 8: you talk about walleys, whether you talk about bass. So

794
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 8: you know, everybody that has these issues of getting live

795
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 8: bait and all the issues that there is, you know,

796
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 8: transporting live bait. Now, there really isn't a need for

797
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 8: live bait. I mean, if I look back at this

798
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 8: season on the Professional Wall, I said things there wasn't

799
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 8: I don't know if there was a tournament that I

800
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 8: actually used live baits. So it's it's pretty amazing to

801
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 8: see the technology in the future.

802
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: Of fishing well. And if from the other side, mark too,

803
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: the companies have to do something in order to stay

804
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 3: in existence too.

805
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 8: One hundred percent. And that's one of the things that

806
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 8: you're seeing is you know, the companies that are surviving

807
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 8: are the ones that are continue to create new baits

808
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 8: and come out with new products. You know, we've got

809
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 8: some new lines coming, We've got new rods coming, new

810
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 8: reels coming. It's it just never ends. It's it's just like,

811
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 8: you know, these guys are constantly developing new things, and

812
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 8: so it's super cool to see where the industry is going.

813
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 8: And I'm looking forward to being a part of it

814
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 8: for as long as I can. Anyway, Well, I'm on

815
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 8: your twenty seven. Let's keep her going.

816
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you, buddy, I hear you. I really do. Well,

817
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: let's let's go hunting for a little bit. You mentioned

818
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: that you were down in South Dakota, and I think

819
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: last year or the year before when we spoke, you

820
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 3: were guiding down there. How did that go this year?

821
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 8: They're doing really well. The birds are phenomenal out there.

822
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 8: I didn't get a chance to get out there and

823
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 8: go and guide, but I have been out there. I

824
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 8: did stop in and see the guys, and and we

825
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 8: went further west. We were in the basically then the

826
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 8: northwestern corner of South Dakota when I was deer hunting,

827
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 8: and I like literally could see the North Dakota border

828
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 8: when I shot my deer. But the amount of pheasants

829
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 8: out there is absolutely awesome Western Minnesota. The pheasant hatch

830
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 8: was phenomenal. So yeah, there's a lot of pheasants. And

831
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 8: and this is the time of year and now we

832
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 8: finally got snow on the ground and all the crops

833
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 8: are starting to get out, and for the most part,

834
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 8: out west, they were all out, but further the further

835
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 8: west we went, that's where we started to see a

836
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 8: lot more crops. When we got west of the Missouri River,

837
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 8: there was still a lot of crops in and a

838
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 8: lot of it had to do with rains, lake fall

839
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 8: and things like that. But uh, yeah, no, the the

840
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 8: amount of birds out there is looking good. And one

841
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 8: of the things that I think we've see in here

842
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 8: and I've been seeing on social media is that a

843
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 8: lot of those ducks and geese from up north are

844
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 8: just starting to really make that transition south. But when

845
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 8: I was in South Texas this week, I can tell

846
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 8: you there was a lot of redheads and a lot

847
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 8: of other species of ducks. So that was kind of cool.

848
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: Have you has this a first for you to go

849
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 3: down there and that environment and hang out for a bit.

850
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 8: Yeah. It was not so much on the fishing side

851
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 8: of things, because my grandparents had a place in South

852
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 8: Texas when I was young, so that's really where I

853
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 8: kind of cut my teeth in saltwater fishing. But it

854
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 8: was the first time I'd ever duck on it, and

855
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 8: that was super cool to see. And I mean even

856
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 8: when we were out and we were actually wade fishing

857
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 8: while we were there, and so you're fishing in anything

858
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 8: from knee deep to maybe waist deep water, and which

859
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 8: was super fun. I mean, you know, to be right

860
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 8: there with the fish and to see everything. So I

861
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 8: caught lots of red fish, got lots of speckled trout,

862
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 8: so it was it was a super fun trip with the.

863
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: With the waterfall that are down there.

864
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: If a person is used to that, and I have

865
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: never been there the preface what I'm saying, but if

866
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: you haven't seen that, that's got to be quite a

867
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: spectacle when you're talking comparing to Minnesota and experiences up here.

868
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 8: So I didn't know it, and as I was talking

869
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 8: to my friend Matt that him and his wife run

870
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 8: a little business down there in Port Mansfield. Port Manfield

871
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 8: Fishing and hunting charters. But it was of the redhead's

872
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 8: winter in South Texas and Mexico. So the flights and

873
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 8: what these birds do is they rest on the bay,

874
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 8: they eat the seedgrass, and then they go inland to

875
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 8: get fresh water to drink. So these birds are kind

876
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 8: of in a transition all day long, back and forth.

877
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 8: So the flight really goes all day long, and you know,

878
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 8: we set up obviously before sunrise, and to watch those

879
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 8: guys raise up with the amount of birds that are

880
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 8: down there was absolutely insane. The sky turns black and

881
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 8: it's just flock after flock after flock, and you're allowed

882
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 8: to redheads down there. They do shoot lots of pintails,

883
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 8: they shoot teal, they shoot shovelers, they shoot uh gadwells

884
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 8: and wigeon. We shot snow goose, so that, yeah, they

885
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 8: get a little bit of everything. San Hill cranes a

886
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 8: lot of them winter down in South Texas, so there's

887
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 8: a yeah, there's there's a ton of waterfall down there,

888
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 8: and it was super cool. I mean, you're waiting in

889
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 8: knee deep water and are They actually have a short

890
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 8: hair that they use for retrieving, So all our ducks

891
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 8: get retrieved by a short hair, which was super fun.

892
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 8: And yeah, it was just a just a unique trip.

893
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 8: Most of the duck hunting is done out of the

894
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 8: airboat and then they take you and they build a

895
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 8: blind with palm leaves and you sit on shore and yeah,

896
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 8: it was just absolutely something I had never seen and

897
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 8: it was super cool.

898
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 3: Uh cool.

899
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 8: And the cool thing is that all the birds are

900
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 8: typically in their full plumes. So the redheads we had were,

901
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 8: you know, just gorgeous birds, and and the TiO were

902
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 8: really pretty. So you know, by the time they get

903
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 8: down there, they're in their full plumes. The pintails have

904
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 8: big sprigs on them. So if you're looking for, you know,

905
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 8: a duck to go on the wall or a full

906
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 8: plumage of some of those species, that's definitely a place

907
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 8: to go.

908
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: I'd be there in a heartbeat.

909
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 2: I'd love to have that anyway.

910
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: Mark, Thank you so much, buddy, and I really appreciate it.

911
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: Are you going to be around Minnesota for a while now?

912
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: Are you off?

913
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: And again?

914
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 8: I am, I'm going to I'm gonna be home for

915
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 8: a little bit here. I might try to sneak out south,

916
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 8: go to one more time to get the dogs a

917
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 8: little bit of a pheasant hunting in, and then then

918
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 8: we'll say to go down south over the holidays and

919
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 8: then we'll be back. So yeah, looking forward to the

920
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 8: rest of the fall. And I'm gonna go try to

921
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 8: enjoy this white stuff today.

922
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: Good luck, you can enjoy it plenty for me to

923
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: have fun.

924
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 8: Sounds good guys, have a great day.

925
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah you too, Mark, We'll talk again.

926
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: Buddy. That's Mark Kurtz and he's a good friend. We

927
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: have known each other for a long long time. We

928
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 3: will take a pause and be back with none other

929
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 3: than Tackle Terry. I think that I don't. I think

930
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: he's looking for ice now. At one time he was

931
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 3: looking for open water. I think he's looking for ice.

932
00:55:41,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: But we'll find out right after this eighteen minutes after

933
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: the hours seven a m. On a fan outdoors Saturday morning,

934
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: Bob Saint Pierre in studio. He has birds on his mind.

935
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: I can tell you that right now. This is this

936
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: is transparent. Oh yeah, yeah. There was a man that

937
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: had his boat winter rise June third. It was fourth

938
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 3: of July, but no, I think it was a closer

939
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 3: in June. You're already talking about it. And our next guest,

940
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: he's his boats. They're winter rised, but they're all set

941
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: to come back out to in a moment's notice. If

942
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: we would find spring again almost last week, yeah, almost,

943
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 3: lakes are wide open. I was just up there, tackle Terry.

944
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: There's when I was up with the lake this last week.

945
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: It was wide open. But my friend in the bait

946
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: shop told me that he expected it anytime. It could

947
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: be now that the bays were going to be frozen,

948
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 3: then there will be ice fishing soon.

949
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 7: Well, good morning to you and good running everyone. You're

950
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 7: exactly right. Yes, the bays are definitely skimming over. On

951
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 7: the lake we live, the bays are skimmed over, and

952
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 7: it won't be long with the cold weather coming. The

953
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 7: only issues, especially in our area here, we're talking quite

954
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 7: a bit of snow, so that's not a good thing.

955
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 7: But then I just talked to Riverbend Resort and they're

956
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 7: going to anti space time to fish on lake. What's

957
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 7: the seventh of.

958
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: December, really, Terry, it was just wide open?

959
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, But you know what really made a big

960
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 7: difference here. I don't know about you guys, but we've

961
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 7: had an awful lot of wind and even with the

962
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 7: cold temperature has really kept the lakes pretty much wide open.

963
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 7: But it appears that it's going to change and we'll

964
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 7: be ice fishing even here, I think, much more than anticipated.

965
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, Terry, if we get if we get a lot

966
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: of wind when the lakes are freezing up and it

967
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: gets rough, that's kind of a that's the kiss of

968
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: death too.

969
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really is. You're one hundred percent right. Yeah,

970
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 7: where you have those ridges on the ice itself or

971
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 7: becomes extremely rough, or you have you know, trouble traveling

972
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 7: on that ice. It is a big factor. And then

973
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 7: the other thing too, on the wind side of that lake.

974
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 7: Many times you have those big ice builds up. So

975
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 7: there's a lot of factors here too. Let's just hope

976
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 7: we don't get a lot of snow and a nice

977
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 7: freeze up and no wind.

978
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean for the sake

979
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: of not so much me, but for the sake a

980
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: lot of sake of a lot of industries and a

981
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: lot of companies that really really look forward to ice

982
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: and they haven't had good ice the last few years.

983
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, and you know it just a last

984
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 7: year was a good year. But the ice fishing industry

985
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 7: is the products are selling now already, and a lot

986
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 7: of people have ice fishing on their mind. I don't

987
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 7: know how many people I've talked to talking about new

988
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 7: products and what's new and you know, and where we're

989
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 7: going to go and what we're going to fish for.

990
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 7: In fact, I just talked to my neighbor yesterday about

991
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 7: ice fishing. So it is becoming a big part of

992
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 7: today's outdoor activities.

993
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: Well, the ice Show is coming up right around the corner, TERRYA.

994
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: What are you looking for down there this year?

995
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, it really is. We're going to see a

996
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 7: lot of new products again coming out and I'll be

997
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 7: at the VXR Boat bill Boat Friday and Saturday, and

998
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 7: also too, we'll be doing a panel discussion. We're talking

999
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 7: about different destinations so forth, and we'll be joined with

1000
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 7: Dave Gains and Jason Mitchell and there'll be at two

1001
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 7: o'clock on Friday. So I didn't invite anybody to come

1002
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 7: out over to the vex our Boat talk fishing or

1003
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 7: be sure to attend a the panel discussion on Friday

1004
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,479
Speaker 7: at too.

1005
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: What are the topics, Terry, Well, it's going to be

1006
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: a lot of talking about destination, but Matt Johnson is

1007
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: going to do the m seeing of that, and I

1008
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: know he mentioned to me we'll talk about different techniques

1009
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 4: and how to catch these fish, what to look for

1010
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: in that specific fishery.

1011
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 7: And at the ends you can be general answering a

1012
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 7: lot of questions from the audience.

1013
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 3: And there's always there, always seems to be so many

1014
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 3: questions that people have. And that's okay too, because not

1015
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: everybody is on the same level as some of the

1016
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: everybody else, and that's how they learn to is asked

1017
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: the questions, Well.

1018
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 7: You're exactly right, and you know, a lot of times

1019
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 7: you hear the question, well, what do I need to

1020
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 7: just start to ice fish? Or how much do I

1021
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 7: need to pay for a rod and a real Do

1022
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 7: I need a two hundred dollars roden real combo for

1023
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 7: ice fishing? Or what kind of clothes you know, oh,

1024
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 7: hobbot line. Those are a lot of questions that are asked,

1025
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 7: you know, or like how much jigging action? These are

1026
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 7: so many questions that are asked at at at seminars

1027
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 7: or hopefully at the panel discussion or at the booth itself.

1028
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 7: And the best way to learn, of course is you know,

1029
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 7: ask questions. But actually the best way, just like would

1030
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 7: open water fishing, get out and do it.

1031
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I think that it's important for people

1032
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: to come and see that different people, different pros, have

1033
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 3: different ways of doing everybody arriving at the same ultimate end.

1034
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 7: Yes, you're exactly one hundred percent right, yeah, and you know,

1035
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 7: and it's really what it boils down to, I think, Bill,

1036
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 7: is that it really is it's that individual him or

1037
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 7: herself that you know, really maybe pay electric a lot

1038
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 7: of attention to electron mix, you know, jigging actions a

1039
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 7: selecting the right rod and real and you know, and

1040
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 7: once you put all those together, so to speak, then

1041
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 7: you've become very successful. And you're right, it's going to

1042
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 7: be different grades of experiences.

1043
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 8: Uh.

1044
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 7: I think one big factor here is you know, patients,

1045
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 7: concentration and having the right equipment. These are all ingredients

1046
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 7: that's catching fish today well.

1047
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: And the right equipment doesn't necessarily mean the high end

1048
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 3: the best, very best of everything either.

1049
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 7: I mean it does not exactly right. That's one, you know,

1050
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 7: Plus frice fishing, you can go alter and you can

1051
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 7: start with very inexpensive products. The biggest thing is you

1052
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 7: stay warm out down the ice, otherwise you're going to

1053
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 7: lose interest in concentration. But you're right, you can start

1054
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 7: a very very you can startle with really, to be

1055
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 7: honest with you, you know, if you're just going to

1056
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 7: fish for sunfish and crappies, you can get by with

1057
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 7: a couple of rods and you know, inexpensive portable house.

1058
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 7: There's so many things we can do with that. Not

1059
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 7: spending a ton of money and then to bait too,

1060
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 7: is you know, you don't have to go and invest

1061
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 7: in twenty five hours worth of bait just to out

1062
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 7: the fishing.

1063
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: No, I agree, Terrian. I think that's that's the draw

1064
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: that a lot of people have, and a lot of

1065
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: the kids too. And when I was younger, all we

1066
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: had was a stick and a piece of line basically

1067
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: with a spike in the end of the stick, some

1068
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: straight hard rod and when you get a bite, you

1069
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: just take off running the other way and the fisher

1070
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: come flying out of the hole.

1071
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: We just got blood, right.

1072
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 7: I even made some of those ice fishing stakes with

1073
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 7: you know, going to the lumberyard and getting some and

1074
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 7: I don't even know what they call them, the poland

1075
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 7: and put the stike, the spike in it. Yeah, And

1076
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 7: that was our fishing, you know, And then of course

1077
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 7: graduated to remember the inexpensive Jago rods. Yeah, I still

1078
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 7: see people using a bill.

1079
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: Well, sure you do.

1080
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: I mean that's you just put the line to put

1081
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 3: the rod down there and you got probably five dollars

1082
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: invested in the rod and it'll do everything you wanted

1083
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: to do. And what you want to do is to

1084
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: catch a fish.

1085
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, you're right, you know, just and of course

1086
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 7: you know, investing in technology and the equipment, you're going

1087
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 7: to be more productive. I don't there's any question about that.

1088
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 7: You're trying to learn as much as you can. Is

1089
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 7: another big factor, and I still maintain today is using

1090
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 7: patients out there. Don't give up immediately if you're not

1091
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 7: catching fish. Just have a very positive attitude and you

1092
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 7: will be successful. Just pay attention to you know, weather conditions,

1093
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 7: fishing pressure, and for sure pick out the specie you're

1094
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 7: going to pursue. Do not go out there and I

1095
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 7: Am going to fish for whatever it's going to bite that.

1096
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 7: It's just not a good approach.

1097
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 8: And if I'm.

1098
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: Going out and I change that all the time, Terry,

1099
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 3: I say that I'm going to fish crappies and I

1100
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: end up on the sunfish or catch a wall man.

1101
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: That's what I'm fishing for whatever comes up out of

1102
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: that hole.

1103
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 7: But you know, but but you know you're not going

1104
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 7: to go to uh, you know, anticipate fishing just you know, sunfisher,

1105
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 7: crappies and you okay to catch a wall you know,

1106
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 7: that's I think a different scenario by you say I'm

1107
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 7: going to go fishing walleyes and you don't look for

1108
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 7: you know, sunfisher, crappies. I think you really need to

1109
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 7: because therefore, then too, what you're really doing is you're

1110
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 7: really taking the tackle and the locations that you're going

1111
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 7: to be fishing for. And I think that's such a

1112
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 7: big ingredients sketching fish terry.

1113
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: You know, in my world too, as long as I'm warm,

1114
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: I can be patient, but as soon as I get cold,

1115
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to be one of the ones dancing around

1116
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: on the ice and thinking about there's got to be

1117
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: a warmer thing to do than this.

1118
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 7: But you're right, you know, I don't know how many

1119
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 7: times I've seen people, you know, basically many times sitting

1120
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 7: on the bucket or just kneeling down the ice and

1121
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 7: they're cold. You can see that they're cold, they're shivering.

1122
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 7: And what happens then is we start our brain automatically

1123
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 7: since a message to our body to start to shiver.

1124
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 7: We have no control over that. So therefore then confidence

1125
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 7: and patients become secondary, and that's going to red affect

1126
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 7: our fishing productivity. It's just it's a big, big factor.

1127
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 7: That's why it's so important. Just while they're invest in

1128
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 7: good clothing, and that good clothing doesn't mean it has

1129
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 7: to be just rice fishing.

1130
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Well, any in the winter area and

1131
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: in the winter time, any clothing that's warm is good clothing.

1132
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 7: Yes, you're right, you know, and it just here again too.

1133
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 7: You know, the layering system we all hear about the

1134
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 7: warm clothing also is a good spent but just you know, basically,

1135
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 7: just keep your feet in your hands and your head

1136
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 7: area warm. Those are going to be the main parts

1137
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 7: of the body that you really have to and you

1138
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 7: want to avoid frost by. I've had frost by too

1139
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 7: many times over the years, and mother Nature always remind

1140
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 7: me of those tender spots every time I go out.

1141
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 7: No wonder time.

1142
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 3: When I was a kid, my dad had and this

1143
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 3: is a long time ago, but he had some Army

1144
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 3: surplus flight clothing, flight pants and flight the long jacket,

1145
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: and they were.

1146
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: They were really really warm.

1147
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 3: If you could if they could stand the weight that

1148
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 3: you had on your body, because they had to weigh

1149
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: twenty pounds in trying to move that around.

1150
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: It just didn't oh right, though.

1151
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 7: I do recall, in fact, I can remember when the

1152
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 7: first time I went out fishing with my dad. We're

1153
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 7: the only two sitting on the lake bill and I

1154
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 7: think at that time when we were growing up, we

1155
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 7: were almost competing can I handle this with Mother Nature?

1156
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 8: Then?

1157
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 7: You know, just going out there and catching fish. You know,

1158
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 7: almost like who was the hardest person out there that

1159
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 7: could withstand Mother Nature's elements? And now that's all change.

1160
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 7: With unbelievable clothing we have available and even you know,

1161
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 7: with the equipment we have, the heating system, we have wheelhouses,

1162
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 7: kid houses, portable houses, we can go on and not

1163
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 7: with how we can really enjoy the time on the

1164
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 7: ice am also being very presure.

1165
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: I totally agree, Terry. And that's and it's really for

1166
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 3: people who haven't ice fished, and either maybe they're from

1167
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: the South and they don't don't realize what it is.

1168
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: It is a very very nice, wonderful pastime to get

1169
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: your heads around straight again and just not be having

1170
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 3: to think about what's going on in the world and

1171
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 3: everything else. You're just it's quiet and you're just concentrating

1172
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 3: on what you're doing right there and having a blast.

1173
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 7: Well, you're one hundred percent, creck. I agree with you,

1174
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 7: one hundred percent, and you're thing too, Bill is it's

1175
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 7: a great time to really enjoy mother nature. Maybe you're

1176
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 7: getting out there before daybreak watching the sunrise, or going

1177
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 7: out and you watching the sunset. Maybe there's some geese

1178
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 7: sitting on you, so you see a couple of eagles. Uh,

1179
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 7: you know, a really enjoying mother nature at the same time.

1180
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 7: And like you said, it's a very relaxing time. Of course,

1181
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 7: that relaxing time can be dependent on the individual too.

1182
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 7: How bad you want to catch fish, right, you know,

1183
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 7: But but here too, you're one hundred percent crack. It's

1184
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 7: totally different environment than open water fishing.

1185
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: And it can if you go fishing with Bob, it's

1186
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 3: like a fire drill.

1187
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

1188
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: It's just because you can get his line, you can

1189
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 3: have him fishing for a big one, the biggest fish

1190
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 3: he's ever had on his life.

1191
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. It's really funny. It like stays with you too.

1192
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 7: But hey, hopefully that is that true, Bob.

1193
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,440
Speaker 2: You never know. I never got it in tackle.

1194
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 7: But but you know it is. Just I think it's

1195
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 7: a wonderful sport, and it is. It's a fast growing activity.

1196
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 7: You see more and more of it. And also too,

1197
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 7: I've seen an awful lot of young families out there

1198
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 7: fishing many times. You know, if it's a portable for

1199
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 7: the wheelhouse or a skid house maybe Marshall wheelhouses or portable,

1200
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 7: but especially wheelhouses where you see a whole families out there.

1201
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 7: They're there for the weekend. The kids, they're running around,

1202
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 7: they got a grill outside.

1203
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

1204
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,520
Speaker 7: And that's really part of the ice fishing.

1205
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: Environment that that terry I will agree totally with. And it's, uh,

1206
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: that is a phenomenon that's not too old, but it's

1207
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: also unique to the Upper Midwest or the Midwest too

1208
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 3: where we got.

1209
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 7: We got wheelhouses, and so you know, there's not a

1210
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 7: lot of states that you know, offer that kind of

1211
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 7: fishing with ice conditions that access the ability to these lakes.

1212
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 7: But you're right, it is really something to get out

1213
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 7: there and enjoy it. You know, you really got you know,

1214
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 7: all the comforts of the camper in the summertime on

1215
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 7: that ice, and you got generators, you got heat, you

1216
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 7: got some of them have several math toilets in them.

1217
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 7: So they're just so many things you can do and

1218
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 7: just to really enjoy a weekend on the ice.

1219
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: YEP, totally agree Terry, you're going to be down at

1220
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 3: the Ice Show in a week correct.

1221
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, it'll be will be there Friday and Saturday

1222
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 7: in the thatch Star Boots will be showing showing that

1223
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 7: fl X eighteen, that new unit, and then I'll be

1224
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 7: there both Friday and Center Dex Star Boats and on

1225
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 7: Friday I will be joined with Dave Agains and Jason

1226
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 7: Mitchell with pand of discussion June. That'll be a two

1227
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 7: block on Friday.

1228
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 3: Wonderful. Thank you sir for joining us this morning. And

1229
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 3: I hope your weekend is a good one. And if

1230
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 3: the ice is solid, go fishing. If not, stay off

1231
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: the ice.

1232
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 7: That's exactly correct. Thank you guys so much. You have

1233
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 7: a great weekend and we'll see everybody at day show.

1234
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 7: Make sure you stop and see how you there you go.

1235
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 3: That's tackle. Terry joins us every other week on Fan Outdoors.

1236
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 3: So we will take our final break before it's time

1237
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: for in the zone.

1238
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: But don't go anywhere yet.

1239
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 3: We'll see what Bob has got planned for us coming

1240
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:45,919
Speaker 3: up right around the corner. Yeah, our producer is waiting

1241
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: patiently for me to say, well, last segment, so he's uh,

1242
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 3: he's happy he is happy again now, but it is

1243
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: and once again a reminder to keep it here on

1244
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 3: the fan because in the zone follows us and last

1245
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: week it was just a one hour show. And I

1246
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 3: think this year, this week we're back to full strength

1247
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 3: against So it.

1248
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: Might be a little talk about how the Green and

1249
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: Gold destroyed the Honolulu Blue and Silver for the second

1250
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: time this year. Yeah, I know, we just don't have

1251
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 2: it this year. Yeah, I don't know. Now it's onto

1252
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: the Bears because apparently they're good. Apparently beat the Super

1253
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: Bowl champions yesterday. They look terrible. Anyways, we'll get into it.

1254
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 3: These teams that were so good last year and the NFL.

1255
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, the.

1256
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 3: Lions have got not much of a roar left any

1257
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: how much not much.

1258
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 2: We're moving on to the Red Wings, who have all

1259
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden went into a losing street. Uh, the

1260
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: opposite of the Wild who have found their way. He

1261
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: at least the Pistons are good. Yeah, there is that. Yeah,

1262
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: we get the Wolverines today. Well there's yeah that game.

1263
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: The game back to the outdoors. Yes, yes, it's snowing out, Captain,

1264
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 2: it is. It's coming down, coming down in a flurry.

1265
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

1266
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: So it's time for you to drive home. Yeah, I'll

1267
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: just stay out of my way. Come slip sliding by

1268
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: you man, Hopefully it's not slippery. I hope not either.

1269
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: But keep that in mind if your if your travels today,

1270
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: take you by the highways and byways are out and about.

1271
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 3: Be safe as you go because that makes a big

1272
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: difference for everybody involved, especially in the holiday season two

1273
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 3: or any season. And once again, remind your kids to

1274
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: stay off of the ice, and sometimes you got to

1275
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: remind the adults to stay off of the ice if

1276
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 3: it's not safe. There's no fish in the world that

1277
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: is worth a life, none, not one. So that being said,

1278
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 3: this is the time of year. Like Chad yesterday found

1279
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: pheasants all bunched up down so that they are going

1280
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 3: to bunch up. They're not just running them unusually, there

1281
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: aren't the normal routines that are coming because they're getting

1282
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 3: together again.

1283
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was down south yesterday as well. Just the

1284
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: dusting snow, sleepy eye to Marshall. I think that's changing

1285
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: as we speak. So I think it's based on what's

1286
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: happening here. The predictions are heavier snows up to ten inches.

1287
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 3: Aren't you excited about first snow and Pheasants.

1288
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: I am, but I'm not excited about driving to get there,

1289
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: So I'm not entirely sure. I don't think I'm gonna

1290
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: head into the mix today. I am planning to go

1291
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,879
Speaker 2: tomorrow though, And it looks a little bit chili Captain

1292
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: high of fifteen. I'm going tomorrow, can I can? I

1293
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: reminisce a little bit? Oh boy? Are we going to

1294
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: go for the gray Squirrel?

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01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, it's a slippery roads. Oh yeah, are.

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01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: You coming down the wrong direction on my side of

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01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 2: the road down by Wasika?

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01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I ended up in the ditch and that

1300
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 2: wasn't super fun.

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01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 3: No, no, that wasn't fun at all. That was was

1302
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 3: that from the Pheasant Summit? No? No, we you and

1303
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 3: I boy? That was a long time ago now.

1304
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: But we did a a Do we do a Thursday

1305
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: night show?

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

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01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 2: I think we did a Thursday night show. Then we

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01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: hunted on Friday. Because this is pre date, this pre

1309
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: dates Thursday Night NFL. So we did a Thursday night

1310
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 2: fan outdoors, then we hunted on Friday, and then we

1311
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: did a Saturday morning show and then we were driving

1312
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: home and driving home on that Saturday was slippery. Oh boy.

1313
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: But we did maybe two seasons for sure, one season

1314
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 2: where we did maybe eight shows on the road, maybe

1315
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: maybe at eight. But one of my memories, it was

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: a fond memory too. We got into a cattail slough

1317
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: and it was the biggest cattail slow ever seen in

1318
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: my life. That was with Aaron Sandquist. I remember that

1319
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: cattail sow that.

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01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: Was that was so giant, and I had no I

1321
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 3: couldn't see my way around, I couldn't see anything. Yeah,

1322
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 3: I kept talking to my dogs so to be sure

1323
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 3: they would stick around, and I had visions of never

1324
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 3: seeing them again.

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01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: Am I thinking of the same cattail slow where we

1326
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 2: with Aaron? I think, so, you don't you know he's

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01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: a tall guy, so that's so he sticks out in

1328
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 2: my mind.

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01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 3: Well, the uh, I can't, I can't. I just remember

1330
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 3: the size of that of that cat fail slough. It

1331
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 3: was just he ginormous. And but we've had some interesting experiences.

1332
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 3: There was one that you were stuck at a snow

1333
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: bank and you were right up to your chest.

1334
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: Abbott was with us on that, I believe. So that

1335
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: was with Oh, that was kind of a promotional like

1336
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: let's talk about crap or wasn't it that was? That

1337
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: was actually before all.

1338
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: I can remember is it was me or somebody had

1339
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: to get you out.

1340
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 7: Of this hand.

1341
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: Matt Holland pulled me out of that snow bank. And

1342
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 2: that was before I started doing uh regularly with you.

1343
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: That was maybe this season before I remember being pulled

1344
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: out of a snow I remember that as well.

1345
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 3: Yes, But then as we traveled the one time going

1346
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: out to the river, out to the Missouri out there, yeah,

1347
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 3: and doing the radio show from that Fort Byle Estate

1348
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 3: real estate office.

1349
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: In Fort Betton, Montana, the bloodiest block in the West.

1350
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 3: And the the mule deer came wandering right down the

1351
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 3: middle of main street during the show. It was like

1352
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 3: somebody just released it to walk by the window. But

1353
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 3: then we got onto the island and across a little

1354
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 3: bit of a water to get on the island, and

1355
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 3: the pheasants were out there.

1356
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. We hunted up what do you say, forty acre

1357
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: island in the middle of the Missouri River, and there

1358
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: was three of us and we each shot a limit

1359
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: of versters on that forty acre island.

1360
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 3: And I remember putting the pheasant up and it was

1361
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: getting out over the river and I had a beat

1362
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 3: on it, and I knew if I dropped it, it

1363
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 3: was going to land in the river and hit the

1364
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 3: current and go down and my dog would have gone.

1365
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 3: And I was worried I was going to lose it

1366
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 3: in the current, and I didn't shoot. But it went

1367
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 3: up up, up, higher and high. I remember that bird too,

1368
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 3: and it lit just prior to getting to the very top.

1369
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: It like in a crevice. Yeah, it was in the

1370
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: canyon rather than going all the way up to the

1371
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: top of the egg field. He was he was safe there.

1372
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: He was very safe there. That bird was not going

1373
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 2: to be hunted.

1374
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 3: No, no, And it was so high it was just

1375
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 3: a speck in the sky that you could see land.

1376
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 3: That was That was really fun. You shot a duck

1377
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 3: on that trip, too, didn't you? I think so.

1378
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: I think so.

1379
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 3: I came.

1380
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you had a Montana waterfall license

1381
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: and he did a sneak. Yeah.

1382
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 3: I think that I was the only one that had

1383
01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 3: the license. I think you and Anthony, that was the

1384
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: time I had to paddle so hard. I've never forgotten that.

1385
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: You never let me forget that.

1386
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 3: I will never forget to there's like four or five

1387
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 3: canoes going down the Missouri room. And I was paired

1388
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 3: with a gentleman, a young man.

1389
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: Who from Iowa, Yeah, from I won't mention his name.

1390
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 3: No, his paddle just kind of leaned over the bow

1391
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 3: of the mote. And Bob said, well, you want to

1392
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 3: be in the back because I see he's just places

1393
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 3: to be.

1394
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: Well, your name is the captain.

1395
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 3: Let's be real, all right, So I won't forget because

1396
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 3: everybody went to the shore and I'm trying to turn

1397
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: that dang boat and get back to the side to

1398
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 3: join the group. And I'm down about thirty forty yards

1399
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 3: from everybody else as as soon as I can get

1400
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 3: the shore. But it was so fun. That was a

1401
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: fun trip. Yeah, it was really a good time, long drive.

1402
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: I got a pack for a trip today.

1403
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm leaving for Kansas. I will be in studio

1404
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: with you next week, but then the following Sunday go

1405
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: to Kansas. Our annual Rooster road trip is in Kansas

1406
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: this year. So and where what states will you hit?

1407
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: Just Kansas. We're traveling a couple different spots within the

1408
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: state of Kansas. So Pheasants ba Boy quail, chance of prairie,

1409
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: greater prairie chicken. So yeah, it'll be have it haunted

1410
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: Kansas in five years years?

1411
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 3: Is that kind of the end of your hunt for

1412
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 3: a while?

1413
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 4: Uh?

1414
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: To be determined, to be determined. I we have a

1415
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: cabin up the gun Flint for Christmas. So the season

1416
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 2: still open, but depends on how much snow there is.

1417
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: Some years it's been really good late season, grouse running

1418
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: up there. Other years it's pretty hard to move. So

1419
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see.

1420
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 3: The skiing will turn out. The skiing will will be

1421
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 3: the plan. B Yeah, and I still want a video

1422
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: or you.

1423
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: Crash, we'll be we'll be talking about that before love.

1424
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some hunting to do before that. Yeah,

1425
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: schedu skeeduring. Yeah yeah, Where where I ski and have

1426
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: the dodge pull me? Yeah, that's what you want? A video,

1427
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: like a video, just anything, it would be great. I

1428
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: really will where I rapidly approach the ski season when

1429
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 2: I look outside.

1430
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's uh.

1431
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: Do you have a ski report?

1432
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 3: I have no ski report other than it is snowing.

1433
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 3: It it is snowing, and I think we have seen

1434
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 3: the end of the warmer weather until we get to.

1435
01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: April, I think we are transitioning from autumn to winter.

1436
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the Hildebrandt family is going to

1437
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: be selecting a Christmas tree soon.

1438
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: No, is that today?

1439
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 3: Not today?

1440
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 2: No, you're not going to leave. Drive home after the

1441
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: show and not leave.

1442
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: I will go down in front of my woodstove and

1443
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: I will put thee I will feed it and enjoy.

1444
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: The day logs in the fire.

1445
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's really really nice and warm down there.

1446
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: It's at the expense of the rest of the house

1447
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 3: because it's quite chilly when the woodstove burns upstairs because

1448
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 3: the furnace doesn't run, and it's nice and warm. But

1449
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: it's cool, cool upstairs. But that's okay.

1450
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving was good. It was good. Yeah, yeah, pretty low key.

1451
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: Did a turkey on our weber turned out great.

1452
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: Good.

1453
01:24:52,080 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: Your turkey turned out turned out. It was close. It

1454
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 2: was both. But it's all good.

1455
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 3: And we've got a little bit of leftovers, although the

1456
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 3: kids took the majority of it. I have enough for

1457
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 3: breakfast and maybe a snack, So that's okay. Music is playing,

1458
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 3: which means that, man, it's time, so I will say

1459
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: thank you to our guests. To Andy Peterson for joining us,

1460
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: and really I wish you success and we'll find out

1461
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 3: about it. To Mark Courts for joining us also and

1462
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 3: sharing some things interesting information about creation of Bates and

1463
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: what goes into it.

1464
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: Tackle Terry for.

1465
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 3: Reminding us that the Ice Show is next week, but

1466
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 3: thank you for letting us travel with you on this

1467
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: fine day. For Brett Blakemore, my executive producer and friend.

1468
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: Also for Bob Saint Pierre, my traveling friend. I am

1469
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 3: Billy Hildebrand. Wishing you a wonderful weekend. Till next week,

1470
01:25:58,520 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 3: Tata