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Speaker 1: and the host himself, Pa, how's it going out there?

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen? Yoh, what's going on? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Can you guys hear this? This mouse wrestling around in

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Speaker 2: Is that a mouse? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It's me in search of my voluminous number of sharpies.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just funny because you know.

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Speaker 3: The fact that it's it's sounds like it's coming through

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Speaker 2: We're all ready to.

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Speaker 5: Go and right, and Carson Wentz started his press conference

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Speaker 2: But we're home and cooled out now more. It's nice

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm Joe Huber in forty four games at Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Not exactly happy that, Hey, I can't I can't run

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Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you this. Then this

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Speaker 3: Well that I put that as like the one percent

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Speaker 2: How to come on. Man, he's about the biggest guy

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Speaker 3: No I know he's a massive indeed, But when you

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Speaker 2: Was back in the mix. Yeah, like he was on

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Speaker 1: Well, who was who was the tight end sized guy

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Speaker 5: It's like he's never caught a pass. Oh he caught

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Speaker 2: Dell can't get hurt. That's just not the equation.

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Speaker 5: I think one thing Natcho will notice immediately when he's

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Speaker 3: Well, the issue is obviously Miles Garrett is he is

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Speaker 3: Is this is the best front four that we have played. Yes,

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Speaker 5: And Nordo you know I I And we heard early

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Speaker 5: They look at it like, you have a second and

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Speaker 3: So if you're gonna take that approach, yeah, then you

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Speaker 5: it with replacements at three spots. I mean, that's why

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Speaker 5: I'm saying I think the best route to winning this

440
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Speaker 5: game is throwing the ball a lot. Okay, yes, I

441
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Speaker 5: know they've taken a bunch of sacks. Well, then figure

442
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Speaker 5: it out with the Titans and CJ. Ham because I mean,

443
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Speaker 5: you know, Mason and Zay Scott, you know, and cam

444
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Speaker 5: Akers may play some two, right, I mean, I'm sure

445
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 5: you can get one, two, maybe three on them, but

446
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Speaker 5: over the course of four quarters, it's kind of like

447
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Speaker 5: banging your head against the wall simply because and this

448
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Speaker 5: is with all due respect to the offensive linemen, but

449
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Speaker 5: they're backups.

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Speaker 2: Just don't play that much. And I'm not talking about mistakes.

451
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Speaker 5: I'm just talking about lack of reps and getting outmanned

452
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Speaker 5: or pushed around by some Browns who play seventy plays

453
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Speaker 5: a game. So I'm going to put the over under

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Speaker 5: on Carson Wentz passes in this game at twenty six

455
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Speaker 5: and a half.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six and a half, and I'm betting it over.

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Speaker 2: That's a good number right there.

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Speaker 4: I like that. How about let's do this.

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Speaker 1: I want to think about that and maybe we continue

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Speaker 1: that end of it, but I want to jump to

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Speaker 1: the other side.

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Speaker 4: Of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think the Vikings defense has a chance to feast

464
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Speaker 1: with this rookie QB in the mix the south pad

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel, and so when we come back, I want

466
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Speaker 1: to hit you Ben in terms of you know, it's

467
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Speaker 1: tough in terms of reps and sample size. I haven't

468
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of Dylan, but this Quinn Shawn Judkins cat,

469
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of fascinated by him. He's the perfect back

470
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Speaker 1: for what Stefanski wants to do. And so we got

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Speaker 1: With Pa and Ben Lieber, who are across the pond

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Speaker 1: in London getting set for a morning affair here early

488
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Speaker 1: afternoon game at Tottenham Stadium and a thirty am kickoff

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Speaker 1: on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Vikings and Browns gentlemen, As I.

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Speaker 1: Said before the break, I'm just really fascinated by Quinshawn Judkins,

492
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Speaker 1: and I think he didn't play the first game. They're

493
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Speaker 1: just weird off field stuff that was taking place. Finally

494
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Speaker 1: get him into the Covenant. I think he opens week

495
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Speaker 1: two and he's averaging just south of five.

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Speaker 4: Carrie.

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Speaker 1: Now, now this team, this offense in general, hasn't been explosive. Again,

498
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Speaker 1: Flacco has been just frankly, he's shown his age and

499
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Speaker 1: he's been a disaster for them.

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Speaker 4: That's why they're going with Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 1: But liber what have you seen much of Quinchwn Judkins?

502
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Speaker 1: And just thinking about how Gainwell was able to find

503
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Speaker 1: his way this last Sunday, you think about Bijon at

504
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Speaker 1: a higher end level. We two against the Falcons, just

505
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Speaker 1: Flores's group focused on making sure that Judkins and Stefanski's

506
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Speaker 1: rushing attack isn't a factor on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think that quinch On definitely is a

508
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: guy that we we have to pay attention to and

509
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Speaker 3: we have to stop.

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Speaker 2: And here's the other.

511
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Speaker 3: Thing about about their offensive philosophy too, is you know,

512
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Speaker 3: you go back and watch that Packers game.

513
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Speaker 2: They're down ten points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Now they haven't they haven't pete a drop offensively all

515
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Speaker 3: game long. There's a couple of bad interceptions, and and

516
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Speaker 3: you know, you would think when they're down ten, like

517
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Speaker 3: with ten minutes left to go in the game, it's

518
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Speaker 3: just like, Okay, it's lopsided, we got to throw.

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Speaker 2: The football down.

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Speaker 3: Nope, that's not the way Stefancier runs it, and that's

521
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Speaker 3: not the way that he approaches the run game. And

522
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Speaker 3: so no matter what, you're gonna get four quarters a

523
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Speaker 3: run in the football. And I think that Judkins is

524
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Speaker 3: great on some of the inside zone stuff.

525
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Speaker 2: He can get out to the outside.

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Speaker 3: I don't see like he like true breakaway speed, but

527
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: he's just a good, solid player. And I was surprised

528
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Speaker 3: at actually how good his pass blocking was given that

529
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Speaker 3: he's so young.

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Speaker 2: That's generally the situation in.

531
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Speaker 3: The area where a lot of young guys just don't

532
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Speaker 3: want to step in there and get their nose bloodied.

533
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Speaker 2: But you watch this guy, he's a three down back.

534
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Speaker 3: You're gonna see him on third down step in there,

535
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Speaker 3: and he'll deliver some hits to some linebackers in the

536
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Speaker 3: pass game, and then you know, you also have to

537
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Speaker 3: watch out because they like to use him first down

538
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 3: screen passes, so's he's a little bit of everything. You

539
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 3: definitely have to slow him down and stop him. But

540
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Speaker 3: it's this Dylan Gabriel that I think that I'm most.

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Speaker 2: Worried about, and with Judkins.

542
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Speaker 5: Flores spoke to the media to the side after practice

543
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Speaker 5: today outside of the makeshift locker room, and in some

544
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Speaker 5: of the things he said about Judkins and how his

545
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Speaker 5: jump cuts are coming together, he didn't say anything about

546
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Speaker 5: pass protection or catching. I think Dylan Samson, a Tennessee

547
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Speaker 5: rookie that they use. He has one receiving touchdown. It

548
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 5: came from Dylan Gabriel in mop up duty against the

549
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Speaker 5: Lions or the Ravens. But he had some glowing praise

550
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Speaker 5: for Judkins, and listening to him talk about that rookie

551
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 5: reminded me of during the joint practices of how he

552
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Speaker 5: was talking about the other Ohio State guy, Henderson.

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Speaker 1: Now with with Ben the you know, focusing on that

554
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Speaker 1: at the at the end of your comment there, Ben,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned that Dylan Gabriel kind of, you know, not

556
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Speaker 1: worried about it or just most focused on kind of

557
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Speaker 1: the idea of you know, what's new and you can

558
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Speaker 1: look at the record. Flora is handling rookie qbs as

559
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Speaker 1: successful as he's been from a defensive standpoint, you know,

560
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Speaker 1: kind of imitting not really a rookie, but Pennix.

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Speaker 4: You think about week two wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Explosive, and maybe part of that because Jean ran for

563
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Speaker 1: a freaking mile him and l Gear. But at the

564
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Speaker 1: quarterback spot, specifically with Dylan Gabriel, not a lot of

565
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Speaker 1: tape on him, so a chance to shock, chance to surprise.

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Speaker 1: What is intriguing to you about his opportunity on Sunday.

567
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Speaker 2: His ability to run?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that you know, a lot of

569
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Speaker 3: people are kind of looking at Dylan Gabriel and they're like, well,

570
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Speaker 3: I mean, thank goodness, we're going to play a rookie

571
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Speaker 3: quarterback in his first start. And yeah, I think a

572
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: lot of that's true. But I think that if you'd

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Speaker 3: be silly to think that you won't see a whole

574
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Speaker 3: different offense. You think they're they're going to run Joe

575
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: Flacco type of plays with Dylan Gabriel There absolutely not.

576
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Speaker 3: So I think that there is a wild card. There's

577
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Speaker 3: an X factor approach to how to understand what are

578
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Speaker 3: they going to do, how are they going to use it?

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Speaker 2: This is not going to look like to me.

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Speaker 3: I think if if Stefansi's looking at the way that

581
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Speaker 3: he was able to be so productive in college, you're

582
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Speaker 3: going to have to take aspects of that and bring

583
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: it into your own offense. And so there's some RPO there,

584
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: there's some read option there, there's some design quarterback keep game.

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Speaker 3: Especially since he's left handed where he goes to his left,

586
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Speaker 3: there's speed option mix in there as well. Or he's

587
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Speaker 3: just going to take this, you know, a direct snap

588
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: under or from shotgun, and he's gonna have Judkins as

589
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Speaker 3: just a speed option type of guy going to his left.

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Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, now's a defense.

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Speaker 3: You have to think about what's my option responsible is

592
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Speaker 3: how often do you have to think about that? I mean,

593
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Speaker 3: it's not like we're playing the Nebraska Cornhuskers back in

594
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Speaker 3: the day with Tommy Frasier. But you know, it is

595
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Speaker 3: a different wrinkle, especially the way that Oregon ran it.

596
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Speaker 3: It was a lot of times in the red zone

597
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: where things are happening faster, you've got to make decisions quicker.

598
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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden you get speed option

599
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: out of a quarterback that you never saw on tape.

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Speaker 3: And he is faster and more nimble than you think.

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Speaker 3: I mean when he's running away from high end FBS

602
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: college football players in open so the guy has more wheels.

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Speaker 3: So the reason why I'm worried about him is because

604
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Speaker 3: in combination with Judkins, in combination with his quick release,

605
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Speaker 3: he's very accurate underneath, has enough arm strength to throw

606
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Speaker 3: deep balls, not necessarily driving and driving the football, you

607
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: know at the twenty yard mark in between the hashes.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's part of his game. But he

609
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: can throw deep ball and he can actually have designed

610
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Speaker 3: quarterback runs, which is a whole new wrinkle that we

611
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Speaker 3: haven't seen so far this year. Caleb didn't do it

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Speaker 3: per se. I mean, he scrambles and he creates and

613
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Speaker 3: he creates second opportunities in Pennix. You know, he can

614
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Speaker 3: be elusive, but he's not a designed dual threat quarterback

615
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Speaker 3: that Gabriel is.

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Speaker 5: Did you and just quickly with Gabriel, you know, sixty

617
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Speaker 5: touchdowns over two years, at a big school against big teams.

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Speaker 5: That's no joke, you know, And that's what he threw

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Speaker 5: over his last two years at Oregon. But last year,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I like to do this where it's

621
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Speaker 5: when you're a rookie and you're making your first start. Okay, well,

622
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Speaker 5: how did you do against the best of the best

623
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Speaker 5: last year with the biggest crowds and the loudest crowds,

624
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Speaker 5: and you know, the best players who end up going

625
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Speaker 5: to the NFL. And for Gabriel that would be two

626
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: games against Ohio State. Well, he beat him in the

627
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Speaker 5: regular season, and he made some massive plays on third

628
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Speaker 5: down in the final four and a half minutes of

629
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Speaker 5: the game. Then they beat his team rather soundly in

630
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Speaker 5: the in the college football playoffs. But I think he

631
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 5: had two touchdowns, zero picks, and and he represented well.

632
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Speaker 5: They just had other problems, specifically defensively. So when when

633
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: those lights were bright, this young man came.

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Speaker 1: Through, let me let me ask you this Ben, in

635
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Speaker 1: relation to Gabriel and just this offense in general, then

636
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Speaker 1: what did you What did you feel? Because I thought

637
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Speaker 1: week two you hear about kind of the Viking the

638
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Vikings defense in particular, not necessarily out muscled. But maybe

639
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Speaker 1: there was a physical element you didn't see and a

640
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Speaker 1: lot of people honed in on Ivan pace and just

641
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Speaker 1: maybe some decision making that didn't work his way, some mistackles,

642
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Speaker 1: et cetera. What do you think of the defense as

643
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: tackling in that Steelers game? And then clearly whether it's paced,

644
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's Eric Wilson in the middle, you know, somebody

645
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Speaker 1: having an eye and a bead on Gabriel just I

646
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Speaker 1: need a very physical bunch from Floras on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense, right.

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Speaker 2: No, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is like, that's you look at our

650
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: two losses and what happens at the line of scrimmage

651
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: up on really on both sides of the football, we

652
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: get manhandled. We lose those battles on a more consistent

653
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Speaker 3: basis than we do in the games that we win.

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Speaker 3: And that is Yeah, there's some scheme to that.

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Speaker 5: You know.

656
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: I think that in some of the Atlanta game, you know,

657
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: we just got you know, frankly out schemed. I think

658
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: up front, we weren't good enough on some of the

659
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: combo blocks to make a difference. And then the lineman

660
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: got up to a linebackers immediately and we just we're

661
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: just too small to get off these blocks at a

662
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: consistent basis. And not every team can execute those things

663
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: the way that the Falcons did. But it's it is

664
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Speaker 3: about controlling the line of scrimmage first and foremost on

665
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: both sides. I mean, you look at the way that

666
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: we're able to stop the run and wins versus losses,

667
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: it is dramatic. In the two wins that we have,

668
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: we only give up fifty one yards on average, and

669
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 3: the two losses that we've had, we've give up one

670
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy one yards on average.

671
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Speaker 2: So I mean it is a stark difference.

672
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: And then, as a you know, haven't been there, I

673
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: know what it feels like to get run over like

674
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: that and lose the line of scrimmage. You are literally

675
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: playing on your heels. You don't know what they're doing.

676
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: And then you get a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers who

677
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: is so surgical about how he's able to throw quickly.

678
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: Your head's on a swivel.

679
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: You don't have a clean tackle and open space ever,

680
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: because you're trying to make your drops, You're trying to

681
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: get your reads, and you kind of maybe stop the run.

682
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: You're trying to do this, and then you look at

683
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: way the way Dylan Gabriel and Stefanski and look at

684
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: that pass game and get that past game and get

685
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: ready for our game. They're like, oh, quick, game is

686
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: going to be there. As long as you know where

687
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: your outs are, you're going to have a for guys

688
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: to make plays in space. Also, we're going to have

689
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: to have, you know, like you said, linebackers that have

690
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: quarterback spy duty, on on option, on read option, on

691
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: some of the RPO stuff.

692
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Speaker 2: And then we haven't even talked about.

693
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Speaker 3: Maybe they're the most used player in this Harold Fanom Junior,

694
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: the tied end who is sort of like a Kyle

695
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: Uesed check in the way that they use him. Where

696
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: he might be outside the formation, motions inside and runs

697
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: a play. He might be inside the formation, goes all

698
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: the way outside and runs a bubble screen. I mean

699
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 3: he's he's a guy that can play in that in

700
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: that traditional tight end spot. He can also be a

701
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: full back slash h back, leading up into the hole

702
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: and being a lead blocker. This guy will take you

703
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: to the play most of the time, but you got

704
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: to understand where he's going to line up, Where he's

705
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: going to motion to and what they can do off

706
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: of all those actions.

707
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Speaker 5: And after taking in two days of practice Nordo without oversharing, Yeah,

708
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 5: I can tell you right now forty four has the

709
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 5: attention of Brian Flores really big Tom.

710
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: Now, that's that's a good thing. Last thing for you, gentlemen.

711
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Speaker 1: And this is kind of a dumb cliched question, I

712
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: get it, but bear with me. Just kind of the

713
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: idea at two and two seasons not over. But I

714
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: just I've felt it all week from a fan sentiment standpoint.

715
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: With the health issues, you almost feel helpless, like what

716
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: next shoe is going to drop? In terms of what

717
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: we've seen from this crew, the mash unit of the

718
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: offensive line that we went in through.

719
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Speaker 4: You know, every game is equally important.

720
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Ko the most important game in

721
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: his life is the next one, et cetera. But just

722
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: the ability to get through the Browns and in some

723
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: ways get to the bye week, get a little bit healthier,

724
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: and wash your hands of this, like do you feel

725
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: a vital necessary aspect to this at all?

726
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: Well?

727
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: Cashman and Jackson, Blake, Cashman and Donovan Jackson I believe

728
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 5: will return in the Philadelphia game, so out of the buye,

729
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: i'd expect those two.

730
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: O'Neill somewhere around there.

731
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Speaker 5: The curious one is Andrew van Genkole, you know, because

732
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 5: I you know, was caught off guard a couple of

733
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 5: weeks ago that that he didn't play and you know

734
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: now he's not practicing this week, so that that that's

735
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 5: the curious one of the whole equation.

736
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

737
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: And then as much as you know we love Jordan Mason,

738
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: you know, when are we going to get Aaron Jones back?

739
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 3: I mean that's another one that just kind of gives

740
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: us a different dimension. Is I if I look at

741
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: this game and I think, you know, to to maybe

742
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: answer your your question and what you're talking about, not

743
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: only is it vital that we we win this game,

744
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: also there's another aspect to this that you know, we

745
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: talk about offense.

746
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: And defense a lot.

747
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: I think the way I think the biggest part of

748
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: this that we're not talking about is I don't think

749
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: that they're very good on special teams and.

750
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 2: I think got him for a punt return touchdown last game.

751
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: I do think that when you look at the depth,

752
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: because that's really where that's really where I think a

753
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: lot of your roster building sort of shines is how

754
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: well do your special teams perform. And I think that

755
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: I know this is a biased but I think that

756
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: our depth of quality is just better than their depth

757
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: of quality. And yes we have injuries on offensive line,

758
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: but outside of the field goal protection unit, you don't

759
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: seen a lot of offensive linement on punt return, kick return,

760
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: and vice versa. So I think that our tight ends,

761
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 3: our fullbacks, our running backs, our linebackers, our safeties, our

762
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: corners depth there is better than what they have in Cleveland.

763
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 3: So if there is a way and we can find

764
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: a bright spot in this game, if if the way

765
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it, if their defensive front is going

766
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: to kind of take care of and really limit our

767
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: rushing attack, really limit the points. Points have to come

768
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: from somewhere, and I'm hoping that this is the game

769
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: that we get some points from special teams along with

770
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: our defense. I mean, we have to just not have

771
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: you know, five takeaways in one game and then disappear

772
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: for a game like we got to be more consistent

773
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: about being opportunistic. So hopefully we can get the ball

774
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: back defensively, get our offensive short field and doggan it man,

775
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: I hope that our freaking special teams really shines on this.

776
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 5: Game, and just to land the plane on that and

777
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: amplify it. They that that's a great take because one

778
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 5: of the best players on their team overall is safety

779
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 5: Grant Delpit, all right, and he plays on multiple special

780
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 5: teams phases. Now, just think about that, I mean one

781
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 5: of your you don't want the like the Vikings don't

782
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: use Isaiah Rodgers on kick returns because they don't want

783
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: to lose him, want to use Harrison Smith on the

784
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: special team, right, So like nine in the Red Jersey

785
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 5: when when they're practicing special teams, you know number nine

786
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: is the identifiable guy. That's that's what you hear him

787
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: yelling most because he's really good at everything he does.

788
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 5: But it's all fun and games until one of your

789
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 5: best players gets hurt on kick coverage because you don't

790
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 5: trust people behind him.

791
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: So you're you're just calling it. Then, Ben, you might

792
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: as well just call it. I know we don't do

793
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: like locks of the Week or anything, just just just

794
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: say it. Just say Miles Price is gonna find one,

795
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: He's gonna catch one, he's gonna run one for on

796
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: Sunday at Tottenham, do a little soccer slide and walk

797
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: into the winner circle.

798
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: What about that, Ben, you ready to call?

799
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's just like stamp it and make

800
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: sure that it happens.

801
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you so much for hanging out, Ben, and

802
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: as chaotic as this schedule is and such, really appreciate it.

803
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: It's Ben Lieber at Nacho liber whether it's Twin Cities Live.

804
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: And of course again the support from the Children's Cancer

805
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Research Fund, their support of nine to Noon and the

806
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: work they're doing very very important, and we appreciate them

807
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: for it. I'm going to say bye for now to

808
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: UPA and we're gonna hear from Justin Jefferson a press

809
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: conference that he did just minutes ago across the Pond,

810
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: and then the eleven am hour will kick off PA back.

811
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: In the mix.

812
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: Sounds like we're gonna get some operations intel from a

813
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: special guest later in the hour, and also a couple

814
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: of players. Let's hear from Zay Scott, Let's hear from

815
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: Biro Murphy Junior. So kind of a funfilled second half

816
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: of the show. Around the corner, it's Nordo. You're listening

817
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: to nine to noon on the Fan nine to noon.

818
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: This is how the rest of the show is going

819
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: to shape U. PA back in the mixed next segment

820
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: from London, and then he actually got the chance to

821
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: chat with not just running back Xavier Scott's Day Scott,

822
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: but then cornerback Byron Murphy Junior. So you're going to

823
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: hear those conversations final hour and then Operations extraordinaire ops Maven.

824
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 4: For the Minnesota Vikings.

825
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: I believe Paul Martin will be sitting with Pa towards

826
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: the end of the show, just kind of working in again.

827
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: Just this complete, this circus of sorts that doesn't feel

828
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: like a circus because of great people like Paul Martin

829
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: who put this thing together. Traveling overseas for a couple

830
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: of games in Dublin and London ain't an easy task.

831
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Ain't an easy task covering Justin Jefferson and the wide

832
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: Receiver was speaking with the media earlier today, and I

833
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: want you to be able to hear that as I

834
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: don't believe it was out on their socials. So here's

835
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: jets with the media earlier today. Make sure.

836
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: The season with a little.

837
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 7: Bit on certain.

838
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 8: You know, to be honest, that's kind of been my

839
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 8: whole entire career, uh since I've been here, so uh,

840
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 8: you know, it's just not really flinching on on that

841
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 8: type of deal. And that's something that I can't really control.

842
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 8: So uh the only thing that I can control is

843
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 8: going out there and uh catching the ball and you know,

844
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 8: winning on my routes and making sure that I'm open,

845
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 8: uh for the quarterback to to see. Uh So it

846
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 8: really doesn't matter who's out there throwing the ball, and uh,

847
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 8: I'm always had I always have confidence in myself and

848
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 8: the person throwing the ball that you know, we're gonna

849
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 8: make something shake. So uh it's it's been difficult, you know,

850
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 8: just trying to connect with the Q one quarterback and uh,

851
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 8: you know, getting that relationship.

852
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

853
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, my job is

854
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 8: to go out there and catch the ball and be

855
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 8: a a open target for my.

856
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 9: Quarterback and you shutting the brows watching so really good.

857
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course I studied them. Uh you know, they're

858
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 8: definitely they're definitely a really good team.

859
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 9: Uh.

860
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 8: Uh you know they have great secondary. Of course, everybody

861
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 8: knows about their D line.

862
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 9: Uh.

863
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 8: So it's it's gonna be a tough battle, just like

864
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 8: the Steelers were. You know, it's kind of a similar team.

865
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 8: Uh if you look at the look at the uh

866
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 8: the player sheet. But you know, just going off of

867
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 8: last week and uh seeing the different things that we

868
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 8: put out there on tape and good and bad. You know,

869
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 8: we just need to limit the bad and focus on

870
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 8: ourselves and focus on those pre slap penalties, and uh,

871
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 8: we feel like we will be in a great spot.

872
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 7: Looks like like Smith that wanted to be people all

873
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 7: with what they read the.

874
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 8: Good, a little mixture of both, you know, just depending

875
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 8: on how the defense played me and uh if they

876
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 8: have a double you know, uh, you know if they

877
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 8: want to have a double towards me or uh if

878
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 8: they're playing me man. Man, you know, those are definitely

879
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 8: things that we look look at, especially the first drive

880
00:40:59,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 8: of the game.

881
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 9: Uh.

882
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 8: But you know just sometimes you know, getting getting me

883
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 8: the ball early, uh and and you know letting me

884
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 8: you know, work off just you know, getting the ball

885
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 8: in my hand.

886
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 9: Uh.

887
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 8: You know, apparently a lot of good things happen. So

888
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 8: just continuing on, just trying to stack up the yards

889
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 8: after catch and just trying to just like I said,

890
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 8: trying to get open from our quarterback to see me.

891
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 10: Up. It's about your sign challenge that Miles characters.

892
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 9: He watched career. Yeah, he's a big challenge.

893
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 8: Uh you know, that's that's that's definitely something that uh,

894
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 8: you know, no one can sit here and lie to

895
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 8: you and say that, you know, we're not worrying about him.

896
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 9: You know, of course he's a big, big.

897
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 8: Threat on that defensive line and uh, mixed with you know,

898
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 8: all of the other guys that they have.

899
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, it's it's.

900
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 8: We always got to know where ninety five is and

901
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 8: making sure that we're putting hands on him and slowing

902
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 8: him down as much as possible.

903
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 9: So uh yeah, if you you.

904
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 8: Know, allow him to to you know, be into the

905
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 8: game and get the sacks, get the tackles for lost

906
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 8: uh that kind of you know, get everybody else's momentum

907
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 8: up and uh they feed off of that energy. So

908
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 8: just you know, limiting him as much as we can. Uh,

909
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 8: you know, he's still a freak of nature and he's

910
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 8: still you know, a talented player, so uh we will

911
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 8: trying to slow him down as much as possible. But uh,

912
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 8: you know, it's it's just very valuable to know where

913
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 8: he's at at.

914
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 9: All times, all the side.

915
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 8: Oh No, he's definitely in the mix. You know, he's

916
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 8: definitely you know, in the in the back of us. Uh,

917
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 8: in the back of the offense and make sure he's

918
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 8: getting all of those mental reps. He's still communicating with

919
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 8: the quarterbacks and communicating with ce Ce Wentz about you know,

920
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 8: what he sees out there and the different things that

921
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 8: goes on.

922
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

923
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, he's you know, still

924
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 8: our our guy, and he's still uh, you know, the

925
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 8: quarterback that we we lean on. So uh, he he's

926
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 8: definitely have to be in there mentally, uh, physically.

927
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 10: Uh.

928
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 9: And he he.

929
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 8: Definitely can't sit back and just uh watch and go

930
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 8: through the motions. Uh, just like I was in training camp.

931
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 10: Uh.

932
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 9: He still have to be you know.

933
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 8: Uh, he's a valuable part of this offense, so he

934
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 8: has to be in the mix as much as possible.

935
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 10: You usually off a loss where there's an under way

936
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 10: and you different the loss and you'd ask.

937
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 8: Me, yeah, it's been a little different. You know, this

938
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 8: this is the first time that we're you know, in

939
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 8: this type of situation and uh, you know, of course,

940
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 8: going up, going off of last week's loss. Uh, it's

941
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 8: definitely difficult, you know, to to you know, just go

942
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 8: through the whole motion and having to travel to a

943
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 8: different city and uh and everything. But at the end

944
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 8: of the day, we gotta win, you know, and that's

945
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 8: the main focus.

946
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 9: Uh.

947
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 8: We definitely have to get that bad taste out of

948
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 8: him out from last week and uh seeing the film

949
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 8: and seeing the different things that we put out there.

950
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, we hurt ourselves a lot of times.

951
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 8: Uh, and so that's that's definitely something that we have

952
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 8: been focusing on this week, and just making sure that

953
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 8: we limited the turnovers, limit limiting the the penalities and uh,

954
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 8: making sure everybody is on the same page. So uh,

955
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 8: it's it's been a different transition, but uh, I feel

956
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 8: like everybody is handling it very very well.

957
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 7: And then one or will you go to London sleep?

958
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 8: You know, I'll you know, try to get the get

959
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 8: down there a little bit to you know, spend time

960
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 8: with you know, my family and everything, and uh, I

961
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 8: never I never really been to London, so uh it'll

962
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 8: be cool just to you know, sight see a little bit.

963
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 8: But uh, you know, at the end of the day,

964
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 8: it's a business trip and uh, I came here to

965
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 8: play a game and to win a game, So I'll

966
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 8: do all of my festivities in the off season.

967
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 10: As someone who's you know, been to uh played in

968
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 10: function international gangs ready, I mean Hull Street. But somebody

969
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 10: else says young the NFL that have uh basically international

970
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 10: gang every week.

971
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: It's uh your respect on that. Wow, I mean I

972
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: like it.

973
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 8: Uh, you know, just coming into a different country, you know,

974
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 8: just experiencing a different atmosphere, a different uh fan base,

975
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 8: you know. Uh, and just you know, having that bonding

976
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 8: moment with your teammates, you know, being in a different country,

977
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 8: spending the extra time with them, away from family, you know,

978
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 8: away from friends.

979
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 9: So uh, it has its pros and cons.

980
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 8: I would say, uh, you know, the the the difficult

981
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 8: part is just you know, transitioning from you know, of course,

982
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 8: uh the six hour time difference and uh just you know,

983
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 8: being able to come here and understand that we're here

984
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 8: for a game, not for you know, a trip or

985
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 8: a vacation.

986
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 9: So uh that's the main thing.

987
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 8: But I definitely you know, approve, and I'm for you know,

988
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 8: just trying to expand this game and uh, you know,

989
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 8: just putting it in in different, different countries.

990
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: Different. Is it your way two weeks.

991
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 9: Frightful days have have.

992
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's different, I would say, just you know, having

993
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 8: a transition from uh, you know, being here only for

994
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 8: three or four days, just like you said, to now

995
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 8: being here for ten.

996
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 10: Uh.

997
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 8: You know, just it's different, and you got to get

998
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 8: you know, acclimated to the time zones and the time difference.

999
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 8: But I feel like we had a great plan, you know,

1000
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 8: a great system into making sure that you know, we

1001
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 8: have our rest, we have our caffeine to keep us

1002
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 8: up a little bit longer. But I am excited for

1003
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 8: these type of games. I'm excited to play in front

1004
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 8: of new fans and a new atmosphere. I always enjoy

1005
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 8: these type of trips.

1006
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: Uh.

1007
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 8: And at the end of the day, just like I said,

1008
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 8: we got to come here and get a win, and

1009
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 8: especially from that loss from last week. So we can't

1010
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 8: come on this trip and be owing too.

1011
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: That's justin Jefferson with the media earlier this morning. And yeah,

1012
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: got to get that w You can't go in two certainly,

1013
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: but you look at the daunting schedule after the break,

1014
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: But how are we going to get eighteen involved? We

1015
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: can't tech Carson that continues. It appears to be the

1016
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: a topic around stopping Miles Garrett. You hurt even you know,

1017
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: it's like that's not my.

1018
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: Job to block them. But I don't know.

1019
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: Maybe we just have we.

1020
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: Got we got tight ends handcuffed to tackles, and it's

1021
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: just can we can we do? We have to bring

1022
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Hargrave over to the offensive side of the ball. We

1023
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: got the we got the All Pro Special Teams long snapper.

1024
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: Maybe he's playing center. I mean, just unbelievable situation with

1025
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: this squad and health as it is now. That was

1026
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson when we returned, and we're gonna chat and

1027
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,920
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00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,600
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00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,320
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