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Speaker 1: Happy Halloween and welcome to the Friday edition of The

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. We have got a giant show for you.

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Speaker 1: this for a Halloween trick. I am going to open

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Speaker 1: the show by agreeing with Wisconsin's Governor Tony Evers. This

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Speaker 1: might be a first. Dare I say that the Education

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Speaker 1: Governor who has thus far been fastidiously avoiding any questions

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Speaker 1: about what I consider to be the biggest scandal in

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin politics over at least the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: the fact that grooming teachers or teachers who sexually assault

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Speaker 1: or abuse children, have been essentially allowed to keep operating

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Speaker 1: by surrendering their teachers' licenses, going to other states, or

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Speaker 1: going to other jobs which don't require a teaching license,

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Speaker 1: in exchange for the Department of Public Instruction dropping investigations

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Speaker 1: into them. Dare I say that the Education governor has, finally,

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Speaker 1: after eight years in office, done something to better the

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Speaker 1: education of school children. Governor Evers, this afternoon has signed

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan law that will largely ban cell phones in

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Speaker 1: classrooms for K twelve public schools. The governor signed a

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Speaker 1: bill this afternoon that will require public school boards to

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Speaker 1: develop a policy by July that generally bars students from

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Speaker 1: using cell phones during the school day. Milwaukee Journal Central

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Speaker 1: with the story. The legislation, which passed the state Senate

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Speaker 1: twenty nine to four on October fourteenth and was approved

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Speaker 1: by the state Assembly in February, allows school boards to

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Speaker 1: create exemptions for certain reasons, like emergency situations and to

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Speaker 1: manage a student's healthcare. The law also allows for the

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Speaker 1: use of school district issued electronic devices. Most school districts

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Speaker 1: will issue an iPad or a Google Chrome Book or

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Speaker 1: something like that. But cell phone use between the hours

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Speaker 1: of what do you think seven point thirty when most

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Speaker 1: schools start seven thirty eight o'clock at about two thirty

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Speaker 1: to about three point thirty largely prohibited. I cannot tell

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Speaker 1: you how much I support this legislation. I would actually

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Speaker 1: be in favor of Governor Evers signing a law to

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Speaker 1: That is how strongly I feel about this. I can

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Speaker 1: see just in my own family, how much cell phone

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Speaker 1: use has just I don't want to say impacted the

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Speaker 1: of interesting that both of my sons have come to

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Speaker 1: them they're fifteen and eighteen years old. Obviously, the eighteen

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Speaker 1: year old can theoretically do whatever he wants because he's

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Speaker 1: an adult. I say theoretically, because he still lives under

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Speaker 1: as I suspect a whole lot of young people are.

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Speaker 1: Now we're to the point where my eleven year old

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Speaker 1: the generation. I'm forty four years old. I graduated from

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Speaker 1: high school in nineteen ninety nine. I actually had my

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Speaker 1: parents got me a car phone, which everybody thought my goodness,

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Speaker 1: phone to make outgoing calls because those calls would cost

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Speaker 1: Thank goodness, they didn't understand how pagers worked, are they?

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Speaker 1: I really could have whenever the phone was off, because

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Speaker 1: that my kids, my boys wanted a phone, And that's

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Speaker 1: because everybody else has one. Phones have become just over

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Speaker 1: entire world of problems. Not just that they're able to

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Speaker 1: that they're able to text uf to listen to me.

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Speaker 1: They're able to text, they're able to snap their friends.

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Speaker 1: Texting is for old people. Even I messaging is for

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Speaker 1: you boomers, and here I am using boomer to mean

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Speaker 1: anybody who is older than about nineteen years old, because

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Speaker 1: they all see us as ancient ladies and gentlemen. The

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Speaker 1: reality is the phone has become such a necessity for

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Speaker 1: fact that come next school year, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: I'll be totally honest with you, ladies and gentlemen. I

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Speaker 1: thought that my position was almost unanimous amongst parents, amongst

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Speaker 1: people who care about kids' education, that cell phones in

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Speaker 1: many people thought that cell phones should be allowed in school.

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Speaker 1: So here's what we are going to do. We don't

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Speaker 1: do this very often, but because it's Halloween, and because frankly,

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Speaker 1: I think my producer Jeff has been slacking off a

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Speaker 1: little bit lately. We're going to take a whole lot

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Speaker 1: this law is likely to go into effect. Well, it

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Speaker 1: is going into effect. It's technically in effect right now

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Speaker 1: and eight three eight nine four seven six. This seems

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Speaker 1: tech technology, especially cell phone technology has been an integral

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Speaker 1: part and a necessary part of education in the twenty

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Speaker 1: first century. Look, folks, the reality is is that we're

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Speaker 1: never going to wean ourselves off of cell phones being

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Speaker 1: I am saying this as somebody who is more addicted

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Speaker 1: to his cell phone and iPad than probably anybody. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think I have an excuse. I try to do

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Speaker 1: do a lot of information gathering on your behalf. But

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Speaker 1: as a result, every Sunday I get a little message

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Speaker 1: from Apple and it says how often I've used my iPad?

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Speaker 1: Would you believe? I am on my iPad for about

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Speaker 1: the bulk of my research on my iPad, but four

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Speaker 1: and I'm pretty much only doing show prep on there. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm also playing wordle and what's the other one connections.

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Speaker 1: New York Times, like the horrible, horrible libs, they are

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Speaker 1: put it behind a paywall. So occasionally I'm doing that.

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Speaker 1: As my kids will tell you, I am a big

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Speaker 1: player of othello, which is it's a variation of the

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Speaker 1: You sort of flip the things. Well, I got addicted

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Speaker 1: his coke bottles. Jerry in Pewaukee up first on the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald show. Happy Halloween to you, Jerry.

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Speaker 2: Happy Halloween to you Dan as well. And I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to point out back to your point about, well,

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Speaker 2: why would parents be resisting this law in this notion

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Speaker 2: and the good of their children's education. I know this

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Speaker 2: factually speaking, that the parents themselves are addicted, and there's

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Speaker 2: a breed, a parent that is contacting their child all

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Speaker 2: throughout the day, micromanaging their school day. How's this class going,

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Speaker 2: how's practice going, what did the teacher say, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, And so they're gonna miss it as much as.

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Speaker 3: The student is.

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Speaker 4: And so that's exactly what's going.

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Speaker 2: On here and why there's a whole group of parents

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Speaker 2: that are resisting this notion.

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Speaker 1: Dan, is that no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, Harry, Is that is that real? Like I'll

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Speaker 1: try to talk to I'll talk to my kids after school.

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Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, this year has been a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. This is the first year I'm doing the

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Speaker 1: I always thought this was overbearing. They certainly thought this

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Speaker 5: You, afternoon, Dave. First time caller, a longtime listener. I

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Speaker 5: It's the first time I agree one hundred percent with

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Speaker 5: Tony Evers can't happen fast enough. I think too many kids,

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, there is a whole lot of negative

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Speaker 1: He was I'm guessing he was left out of like plans.

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Speaker 1: That, but you have to admit, Dave, that they all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why I asked you how you were. It was.

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Speaker 1: Because Dave and I do thank you for the phone call. Producer, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: You are every stereotype of every heavy metal kid I

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Speaker 1: ever went to school, including the fact that you are

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Speaker 1: like the smartest, nicest kid beyond the tough exterior of

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Speaker 1: Miller lights and marb Red's. Actually you don't drink, so

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't even make fun of you for that.

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Speaker 1: But it's totally different, isn't it. It was like you're going

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Speaker 1: to go to a concert. You would just sort of

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Speaker 1: you would call home to whatever kid you wanted to

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Speaker 1: go with, and, oh, well, you know, Johnny's not here,

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Speaker 1: I'll have them call you back. We went hours, if

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Speaker 1: not days, without knowing where our friends were. Now, these kids,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to sound like I'm a million years

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Speaker 1: old right now, these kids have on snap map on

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Speaker 1: their snapchats. They know where their kids, where their friends

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Speaker 1: are at any given moment. It's it's it's a completely

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Speaker 1: different way of communicating. And as a result, because we

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Speaker 1: would always have to make plans, and because we as

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Speaker 1: adults rely much more on interpersonal communication or you know,

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Speaker 1: over the phone communication. It is a different style of

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Speaker 1: interpersonal interaction that I believe this next generation is coming

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Speaker 1: up experiencing. It's far more detached. It's far more of

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Speaker 1: experiencing friendship as almost this esoteric concept. Right. Your friends

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Speaker 1: are there and you're even talking to them through you know,

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Speaker 1: the headset playing Call of duty, but they're not there

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Speaker 1: in a way that previous generations were. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's better or it's worse. Right now, the technological

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Speaker 1: revolution has made communication infinitely better. It's made our lives

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Speaker 1: infinitely better. I'm not going to be sitting here and

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Speaker 1: saying we're bad and mighty it was way better when

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Speaker 1: we all died of diphtheria. No, No, I'm not saying that, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it's a different form of human interaction that

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Speaker 1: I think all of us, regardless of age, have to

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Speaker 1: sort of get used to because it's only going to

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Speaker 1: be more digitized. Dan o'donnald Shall coming back after this,

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Speaker 1: Let's go right back out to the phones. Every so often,

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Speaker 1: folks here on the Dan o'donald show. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we sort of hit on something a little bit deeper,

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Speaker 1: and this cell phone discussion about you know, cell phones

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Speaker 1: effectively being banned in the classroom. I still can't believe

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Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with Governor Evers on something. But this is

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Speaker 1: just common sense policy. This touches on something deeper, and

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Speaker 1: that's our relationship with technology and our relationship with other

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Speaker 1: human beings. Damien on the south Side, you are on

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Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald show. Happy Halloween, my friend, welcome to it.

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Speaker 10: Happy Halloween to you too, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, sir go.

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Speaker 10: What I think is that you guys might have overlooked

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Speaker 10: one thing about the cell phones in the class. First,

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Speaker 10: I don't think kids should be on their cell phones

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Speaker 10: in class unless it's for the class. But I think

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Speaker 10: part of the reason that they might be trying to

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Speaker 10: get the cell phones completely out of the schools is

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Speaker 10: because back in twenty twenty, when everything was on the computer,

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Speaker 10: we could see everything the teachers were doing for the

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Speaker 10: first time in a long time, and the cell phones

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Speaker 10: are another glimt of that. Kids with cell phones can

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Speaker 10: take videos of teachers not doing their job or doing

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Speaker 10: something wrong in class.

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Speaker 1: That is actually a spectacular point, Damien. And I am

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Speaker 1: not above admitting I did not think of that. I

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Speaker 1: absolutely did overlook that point. And I think you're absolutely

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Speaker 1: right that if there's something that a teacher you know

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Speaker 1: is doing that's overtly political, I would want to know

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Speaker 1: about it. I would want to be able to bring

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Speaker 1: it to you. And if the kids aren't allowed to

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Speaker 1: have cell phones, they're not able to record it, right that. Hey, Damien,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that is actually the most insightful call

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Speaker 1: I think I have had all week. Now you're also

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Speaker 1: like the third or fourth call I've had all week.

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Speaker 1: So don't let that get to no, I'm kid, I'm

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Speaker 1: kidding my friend. Excellent point. Hey, have a wonderful Halloween

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Speaker 1: night and be safe. Okay you too, all right, take care?

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Speaker 1: That is actually my producer was like, you got to

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Speaker 1: go to Damien. You got it to go to Why

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Speaker 1: because his name is Damien and it's Halloween night. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's throwing up the two devil horns. Of course, I've

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Speaker 1: got the Satan worshiping producer for Halloween. Oh, I make

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Speaker 1: fun of you, Jeff. But Jeff and I were actually

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Speaker 1: during the commercial break talking about just the deeper point

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Speaker 1: that I think this raises, and Damien that that is

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal point. That is a phenomenal point. Absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: believe personally, I believe everything that every public employee does

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Speaker 1: should be recorded in a given day, just because we

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Speaker 1: have a vested interest as taxpayers in knowing exact exactly

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Speaker 1: what it is that goes on on our taxpayer dime. Teachers,

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Speaker 1: especially as I've been saying with respect to the DPI

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Speaker 1: scandal with the Department of Public Instruction effectively covering up

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Speaker 1: for teacher misbehavior, the worst sort of misbehavior, criminal misbehavior,

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Speaker 1: sexual misconduct as it relates to students, we want to

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Speaker 1: have a record of this. That said, there is a

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Speaker 1: fine line when it comes to how much exposure in

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Speaker 1: a given day that we want young impressionable minds to

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Speaker 1: have with access to literally everything. And Jeff and I

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Speaker 1: were actually talking during the commercial break about pornography. Jeff

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Speaker 1: was mainly telling me what types he likes to watch. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding the impact that it has on a

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Speaker 1: developing brain. This is something that my wife and I

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Speaker 1: talk about all the time in terms of what developing

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Speaker 1: brains have access to that they're not able to have right.

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Speaker 1: I think a previous caller said, what we have access

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Speaker 1: to in terms of the opinions that are shared, the

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Speaker 1: information that is provided. A generation ago, when most of

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Speaker 1: us were growing up, you had three major networks, and

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Speaker 1: you had one or two radio stations that would provide

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Speaker 1: you with news in a given marketplace. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's necessarily bad that that marketplace has been opened

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Speaker 1: up ad infinitum, meaning that anybody can now be an

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Speaker 1: information gatherer. I happen to believe that the democratization of

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Speaker 1: information gathering and the ability of anybody to bypass the

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Speaker 1: traditional gatekeeping system of traditional media and being able to

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Speaker 1: access the mainstream is undoubtedly a great thing. But you

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Speaker 1: would never hear neo Nazi pablem coming from somebody like

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Speaker 1: Nick Fuentes. I dare say, somebody like Zohran Mamdani, who

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Speaker 1: is about to be elected mayor of New York would

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Speaker 1: not be able to rise in a crowded primary because

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Speaker 1: his viewpoints are just so extreme. So we sort of

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Speaker 1: have technology existing and the democratization of access to mainstream

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Speaker 1: America existing as a double edged sword that it provides

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Speaker 1: us with an infinite number of choices when it comes

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Speaker 1: to whatever it is we want to access. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, it also allows access for people who really,

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Speaker 1: I think society would say, are not worthy of the

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Speaker 1: attention bestowed upon them. I'll tell you what, We're going

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Speaker 1: to keep this discussion going in the four o'clock I

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Speaker 1: will of course bring you the daily Trump Day, but

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Speaker 1: we will talk about technology and its relationship with human beings.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Dan o'donald show. All right, I

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Speaker 1: got to go to Chris and Wahwatos who's been waiting

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Speaker 1: for about forty minutes to talk to me. Chris, I

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Speaker 1: really do appreciate your patience. Happy Halloween, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show.

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Speaker 10: Hi.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 4: My son goes to Wawatosa West High School and back

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Speaker 4: in the.

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Speaker 6: Summer they passed that cell phone ban. Yes, said that

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Speaker 6: all students would have to have their bags with their

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Speaker 6: cell phone inside their bags throughout the whole day, and

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Speaker 6: it's caught with their phone, there'd be a you know, whatever,

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Speaker 6: an issue and they everyone's like, oh, no.

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Speaker 4: This won't work, but it's actually worked very well. We

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Speaker 4: were at parent teacher conferences probably a month ago, and

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Speaker 4: we went to my son's five or six classes, and

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Speaker 4: I asked every teacher, how is the cell phone band working?

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Speaker 4: And every single teacher said they absolutely love it.

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Speaker 1: I'd imagine that.

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Speaker 9: They said.

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Speaker 4: There has been very few incidents. And they said, and

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Speaker 4: at the end of every scheduled class, with the last

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Speaker 4: five or so minutes left, the kids are actually talking

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Speaker 4: to one another. They said. A year ago, when the

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Speaker 4: kids could pull their phones out at the end of class,

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Speaker 4: they're on their phone and you don't hear a word

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Speaker 4: because they're on their phone.

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Speaker 1: Well, I I'm really sorry to cut you off, Chris.

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Speaker 1: We do have to hit a break. I really do

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Speaker 1: appreciate the perspective. I have heard the exact same thing. Actually,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, sir. Happy Halloween to you and

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Speaker 1: your family. Will bring it back. I just realized we

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Speaker 1: didn't get to the unhinged liberal of the day. We'll

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Speaker 1: do that next hour daily Trump Day coming up next

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Speaker 1: and we'll get back to this topic too. Four o'clock

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Speaker 1: hour underway. I don't want to oversell the five o'clock hour,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, but one of my all time favorite guests,

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Speaker 1: Ryan's previous RNC chairman, Trump's very first White House Chief

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Speaker 1: of staff will join us. Also, the President of the

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Speaker 1: Border Patrol Council. He is the head of the Border

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Speaker 1: Patrol Union. Both will join us. Coming up in a

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Speaker 1: jam packed five o'clock hour. I cannot wait before we

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Speaker 1: get to that, before we get to anything, Let's get

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Speaker 1: you updated on what was going on in Washington today.

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Speaker 1: Time now for the daily Trump Day.

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Speaker 11: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired

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Speaker 11: of winning.

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Speaker 1: Trump just keeps waiting. It is a win for the administration.

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Speaker 11: It's also a big win for the United States.

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Speaker 1: We have to keep winning. We have to win.

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Speaker 9: Moore.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna win Moore. President Trump lashing out today against Democrats,

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Speaker 1: who he says are intentionally trying to keep the government

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Speaker 1: shut down.

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Speaker 11: If he's doing well, the shutdown proceeds because the general

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Speaker 11: they've done. The Democrats just don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 11: I don't know what's wrong with them. They've never done

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Speaker 11: a thing like this. They've become praised lunatics. All they

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Speaker 11: have to do is say, let's go, let's open up

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Speaker 11: our country, and everything snaps back into shape.

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Speaker 1: So there's something wrong with him. The president, when asked

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Speaker 1: whether he would be willing to meet with Democrats in

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Speaker 1: the Senate who are currently shutting down the government for

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Speaker 1: a thirty first trade. Oh wait, wait, wait, you're saying

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Speaker 1: that's biased me saying democrats are shutting down the government. Well,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the media is saying President Trump is

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Speaker 1: keeping the government shut down. He said today he is

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Speaker 1: always willing to meet with Senate or Congressional Democrats. They

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Speaker 1: just have to vote to open the government back up.

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Speaker 11: I'm always willing to meet. All they have to do

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Speaker 11: is open up the country. Let them open up the

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Speaker 11: country and we'll meet. We'll meet very quickly.

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Speaker 1: But they have to open up the country.

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Speaker 11: It's their fault. Everything is their fault. It's so easily solved.

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Speaker 11: You know, we have a number of Democrats that have

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Speaker 11: already voted for this. But the Republicans are very unified,

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Speaker 11: they're very strong, and they want to.

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Speaker 1: Do what's right for the country. They don't want to.

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Speaker 11: See trillions of dollars wasted on people that came into

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Speaker 11: a country illegally, many from prisons, and many from areas

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Speaker 11: that you don't want to even know about.

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Speaker 1: So we'd like to see this taked rapidly. You have

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Speaker 1: a lot of.

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Speaker 11: We have tremendous support. But it's not even support, it's

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Speaker 11: common sense. Open up the country. Obamacare has turned out

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Speaker 11: to be a disaster.

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Speaker 9: As I've been.

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Speaker 11: Saying for years, it can be tricked or redone. People

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Speaker 11: don't get good healthcare and their premiums go up every

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Speaker 11: single year, so we should change it.

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Speaker 1: It's a disaster.

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Speaker 11: Obamacare is bad healthcare.

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Speaker 1: At a very high price. Now, the President did, in

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Speaker 1: a late night, very lengthy series of posts on truth

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Speaker 1: Social demand that Republicans actually go nuclear. What exactly does

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Speaker 1: that mean. We'll talk about it in just one second.

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Speaker 1: That is your daily Trump date, Fall Fortune, Cash contest

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Speaker 1: time nationwide. Keyword this hour is money. M n e

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Speaker 1: contest for this hour. President Trump wants Senate Republicans to

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Speaker 1: invoke the nuclear option. And I'm sure you've heard this

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Speaker 1: million times before. The nuclear option is nuking the filibuster.

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Speaker 1: It's getting rid of the sixty vote threshold for essentially

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Speaker 1: passing any Senate legislation, anything that goes through the Senate

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Speaker 1: is subject to what's known as a filibuster. I feel

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Speaker 1: like this is you know, schoolhouse rocks right now, and

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Speaker 1: I know I'm probably Please don't misunderstand. I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to talk down to anybody. I know most of you

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Speaker 1: know what a filibuster is, but we pick up listeners

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Speaker 1: every single day, and I want to make sure everybody

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Speaker 1: understands where we're at. There is what's known as a

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Speaker 1: two track legislative system in the United States Senate. There

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Speaker 1: used to be what's known as a one track system.

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Speaker 1: I want you to think in your mind of a

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Speaker 1: literal railroad track. Imagine there is a line of cars,

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Speaker 1: the day, if there was a filibuster, there was only

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Speaker 1: one track for the legislation to go on. So if

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Speaker 1: one bill was filibustered, if the car at the very

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Speaker 1: front of the line was stopped, every other car, every

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Speaker 1: other bill would stop behind it. This was when, in

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Speaker 1: order to hold the floor in the Senate, someone actually

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Speaker 1: needed to speak for hours and hours or days and

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Speaker 1: days at a time. If he would yield the floor

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Speaker 1: by passing out or just losing his voice, or something

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Speaker 1: like that. The filibuster would be ended long about nineteen fifteen,

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Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Please don't quote me on this, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure some as the exact date. The Senate realized, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we are losing a lot of valuable time to these

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Speaker 1: ridiculous filibusters. We should adopt a two track system in

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Speaker 1: which if a piece of legislation is filibustered, it will

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Speaker 1: go on its own track, so that train car will stop.

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Speaker 1: Every other train car behind it will be able to

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Speaker 1: go on a separate track, and the filibustered legislation will stop,

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Speaker 1: but everything else will be able to be voted on.

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Speaker 1: This worked remarkably well until it didn't. In the era

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Speaker 1: for much of Bush's presidency, decided they were just not

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Speaker 1: going to allow a single Bush nominee to ever reach

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Speaker 1: the federal court system. They filibustered them. This irritated Republicans

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Speaker 1: to no end. But it wasn't until Republicans gave Democrats

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Speaker 1: that then Senate Majority leader Harry Reid used the nuclear

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Speaker 1: option for judicial nominees. What he said was, we're going

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Speaker 1: to suspend the rules, and we're going to require just

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Speaker 1: a simple majority of votes in the Senate to eliminate

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Speaker 1: or to end a filibuster, and to allow for a

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Speaker 1: vote on these nominees. In a very famous moment, my

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Speaker 1: boy Cocaine Mitch, former Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell got

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Speaker 1: Democratic side of the aisle will live to regret this day,

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Speaker 1: and they may regret it earlier than they think. He

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Speaker 1: was right. As soon as President Trump took power, Democrats

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Speaker 1: for the first time in American history, philibustered a Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court Justice nominee, Neil Gorsich. Trump and Cocaine Mitch, using

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Speaker 1: the precedent that Harry Reid had set, nuked the filibuster

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Speaker 1: for all judicial nominees and all cabinet nominees. Up until then,

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices and Cabinet secretary nominees were able to

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Speaker 1: they were ever going to be able to stop Democrat

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Speaker 1: philibusters who would simply filibuster every nominee that Trump put up.

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Speaker 1: And they were right. Now there is a push on

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Speaker 1: both sides to get rid of the filibuster, the ability

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Speaker 1: The idea that the founding fathers, the framers of the Constitution,

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Speaker 1: partisan gridlock. Gridlock was built into the system. The idea

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Speaker 1: the President's get onto the president's desk rather, would be

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Speaker 1: the current Senate majority leader, and Senate Republicans to do

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Speaker 1: exactly what Harry Reid did in twenty thirteen. That's de

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Speaker 1: nuke the filibuster for everything. They don't want the blood

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Speaker 1: proverbially speaking on their hands of getting rid of the filibuster,

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Speaker 1: getting rid of the one tool the minority party has

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Speaker 1: to stop the majority from simply doing whatever it wants

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Speaker 1: through a simple fifty plus one vote. They want Republicans

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Speaker 1: to do it for them. This is why President Trump's

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Speaker 1: truth Social screed was probably a tactical mistake, and it's

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Speaker 1: undoubtedly why it's going to be ignored by Thune and

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Speaker 1: Mike Johnson and the rest of the Congress. And if

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Speaker 1: going to repeat his call to nuke the filibuster. He

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Speaker 1: moment of peque in a moment of impatience, said look,

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Speaker 1: that would be the height of stupidity because the one

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Speaker 1: look in his missive on truth social when Democrats take power.

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Speaker 1: It's inevitable that at some point they're going to get

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Speaker 1: with such trivialities as the rights of the minority or

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Speaker 1: going to do because they crave absolute power. While they

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Speaker 1: simultaneously screech no kings as they march in the street.

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Speaker 1: But they want Republicans to do what Democrats foolishly did

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Speaker 1: further in getting rid of filibuster power to protect the

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Speaker 1: rights of the majority or the rights of the minority. Now,

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Speaker 1: to go back to that one track system where if

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Speaker 1: you want a filibuster, you better damn well hold the

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Speaker 1: floor for as long as you possibly can. This idea

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Speaker 1: of a two track system, well, there's just so much

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Speaker 1: can't have a filibuster holding things up. That's totally foreign

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Speaker 1: the people who built this country. They would say, well,

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Speaker 1: how much legislation are you passing? We didn't intend every

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Speaker 1: be best which governs least. All Right, we've still got

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Speaker 1: some people who want to weigh in on our overarching

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Speaker 1: topic today. It's not just cell phones in schools. It's

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Speaker 1: human beings relationship with technology. We'll get to that next.

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Speaker 1: Happy Halloween, everybody. I hope you are getting ready to

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Speaker 1: have costume parties tonight's trick or treating and a whole

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Speaker 1: time tonight. Please do be safe. This is one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest drunk driving nights of the entire year. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I was talking to law enforcement. This

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Speaker 1: surprised that my producer Jeff, who I always make fun

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Speaker 1: of for being do they make fun of you? On

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Speaker 1: the late long lamented ninety seven point three. They call

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Speaker 1: you a pipe bomb for being just like the most

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Speaker 1: stereotypical heavy metal rocker. I think I have ever worked

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Speaker 1: with the fact that not to your face. No, they

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Speaker 1: totally do to your face. That's why we love you, Jeff. Seriously.

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Speaker 1: This guy is if you would see him, he's wearing

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Speaker 1: He's basically dressed like Beavis. That's the best way I

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Speaker 1: thoughtful conservative who is not afraid. Do you have any

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Speaker 1: idea how many people are afraid to challenge me on

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Speaker 1: the phones or whatever? We put it out there? He'll

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Speaker 1: I'll admit sometimes I don't think about. But I really

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Speaker 1: do appreciate your brother, really do that said you're wrong

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Speaker 1: about most things. But the thing that we have been

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Speaker 1: mostly talking about today, and we've sort of used as

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Speaker 1: And it's about that, yes, to be sure, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's more about our increasing dependence upon technology, whether

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Speaker 1: we are going to have augmented reality, wearable tech. If

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Speaker 1: always talk about I'm something of a futurist in that

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Speaker 1: I study and am very interested in what the future

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Speaker 1: is going to look like. Futurism is not, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to predict the future, but it's trying to come

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Speaker 1: best glimpse into humanity's near future is the movie Minority Report.

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Speaker 1: It's a Tom Cruise flick. Wonderful, wonderful film. If you're

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Speaker 1: looking for something to watch, it's from two thousand and two.

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Speaker 1: It's about the idea that you didn't like it. All right,

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Speaker 1: I take back every nice thing I just said about you.

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Speaker 1: Producer Jeff is terrible. He is a heavy metal burnout.

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Speaker 1: Now you seriously didn't like it.

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Speaker 5: It was let.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, he says. It was a cool idea, but

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Speaker 1: it was poorly executed. That I'll grant you. The premise

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Speaker 1: teenagers who can predict if crimes are going to be committed,

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Speaker 1: and people can be arrested for pre crime. Now, the

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Speaker 1: implant in them that allows advertising to be beamed directly

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Speaker 1: to their eyes, directly into their field of vision. They

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Speaker 1: basically predicted all augmented reality fifteen to twenty years before

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Speaker 1: augmented reality became near ubiquitous.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The idea is there are going to be huge swaths

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Speaker 1: in these big population centers, it is going to be ubiquitous,

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Speaker 1: and there is going to be an inescapable interaction with tech.

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Speaker 1: And what I thought Minority Report did incredibly well and

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Speaker 1: what tech is doing to us now is the pervasiveness

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Speaker 1: of advertising. It's the ability of advertisers to reach you

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Speaker 1: wherever you go and It's not just through cookies, which

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Speaker 1: are you know, It's basically like a digital tag. You

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Speaker 1: go to a website. For example, I was looking at

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Speaker 1: a golf simulator, looking to buy a golf simulator. Guess

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Speaker 1: what the only ads I see on Facebook are for

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Speaker 1: now golf simulators. It's not only that, though, it's if

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about something about the puppy with my wife

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Speaker 1: Facebook ex. TikTok, all of the socials will hear that

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Speaker 1: through my phone and will present me with what they

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Speaker 1: believe I am likely to buy. That's a brave new world,

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Speaker 1: and I mean we've been living in it for three

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Speaker 1: or four years, but now we have to accept the

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Speaker 1: fact that younger and younger and younger children are being

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Speaker 1: subjected to that. Let's go to Rich in milwaukee's been

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Speaker 1: waiting a long time. Rich, Welcome to the Dan O'Donnell Show.

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Speaker 5: Glad you're here, you bet you listen. I've been waiting

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Speaker 5: for twenty minutes. I'm eighty years old. I thought I'd

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Speaker 5: die waiting for you, but.

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Speaker 1: My god, well it's Halloween night, so you'd probably be

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Speaker 1: reborn as a zombie and still waiting to call. Only

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Speaker 1: your call would consist of mostly so it would have

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Speaker 1: been a win win either way.

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Speaker 2: Good call.

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Speaker 5: Here's what I'm thinking about taking away the phones. Number One,

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Speaker 5: When you do it, you're gonna have to have many

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Speaker 5: many therapists on him because they're not going to get

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Speaker 5: over that real quickly. But the thought I had was

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Speaker 5: every classroom should have a phone in it in the

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Speaker 5: back of the room, and some student, reviable student have

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Speaker 5: it in the back of the room, so somebody breaks

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Speaker 5: in the room, they just duck down dial nine to

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Speaker 5: one to one and it goes to the next student

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Speaker 5: that comes in that room. It's designated in the gym.

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Speaker 5: You could have one in the gym and everything.

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Speaker 1: Just the fuck I think, I think, Rich, you have

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Speaker 1: just invented the landline telephone, right, Yeah, it's like there's

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Speaker 1: one dedicated line per room. Hey Rich, No, I totally

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Speaker 1: agree with you. And uh, it's not it's it's different.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm poking fun, of course. Uh, it's it's different because, uh,

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Speaker 1: the landline phone and pretty much every classroom I think

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Speaker 1: has a dedicated line for emergencies or to be able

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Speaker 1: to reach the teacher or you know, you know, Johnny

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Speaker 1: needs to bring his gym shoes to gym class or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Uh, but to have a kid in

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Speaker 1: in case the unthinkable happens. I actually think that's a

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Speaker 1: great idea. Hey, happy Halloween to you. I really do appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I have been getting texts from actually very prominent people

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin who said, Dan, you never finished your thought.

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Speaker 1: What is the biggest drinking night of the entire year?

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Speaker 1: Should I mess with him and go to commercial break

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Speaker 1: without telling you? No, it's actually the night before Thanksgiving. Actually,

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Speaker 1: this person who is a very prominent political figure. It's

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Speaker 1: nice to know that they're listening. Don't really care so

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Speaker 1: much about the astute political points that I make, but

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Speaker 1: they're like, Dan, I need to know what is the

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Speaker 1: biggest night of drinking of the year. It is the

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Speaker 1: night before Thanksgiving. Weirdly enough. Weirdly enough, I had heard

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Speaker 1: this from law enforcement sources for years, and apparently there

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Speaker 1: have been studies done across the country. The most DUI

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Speaker 1: arrests will happen the night before Thanksgiving. If you think

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Speaker 1: about it, it makes a whole lot of sense, because

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Speaker 1: what are the nights that you would think would be

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Speaker 1: the biggest drunk driving nights? New Year's Eve? Right, Saint

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Speaker 1: Patrick's Day. Well, most people are planning to go out

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Speaker 1: and get blotto or in the alternative, A lot of

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve parties, for example, are at hotels, so

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Speaker 1: you just kind of crash there and.

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Speaker 5: You just.

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Speaker 1: You plan for it. Well, the night before Thanksgiving. Nobody

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Speaker 1: works the next day. And what do you have to

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Speaker 1: get up for Thanksgiving dinner? Usually what two three pm?

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Speaker 1: Something like that. When I was a kid, we used

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Speaker 1: to have to go to two Thanksgivings. We had lunch

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Speaker 1: on my mom's side of the family and dinner and

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Speaker 1: my dad's. But most people will have one big Thanksgiving dinner.

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Speaker 1: I actually think producer Jeff, how about this. My wife

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Speaker 1: and I are hosting Thanksgiving for the first time this year.

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Speaker 1: Three weeks out. I am already a little nervous. Well,

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Speaker 1: her nor her mom's going to help with the turkey cooking,

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Speaker 1: which means her mom is actually going to cook the turkey.

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Speaker 1: My wife is an excellent cook. Please don't misunderstand. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's it's a big responsibility for the turkey. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to be like calling Boston

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Speaker 1: Market frantically at eleven forty five am, because the whole

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Speaker 1: thing was burnt Dan o'donald show coming right back after this.

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Speaker 1: All right, my worst fear that I am turning into

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Speaker 1: Mark Belling is apparently coming true. I'm kidding, Mark. I

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Speaker 1: love you so much so that I happen to remember that.

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Speaker 1: One of the most enduring topics on Mark's show was

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Speaker 1: how to properly cook a turkey? Would you believe after

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Speaker 1: I said I'm a little nervous about my wife and

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Speaker 1: I hosting Thanksgiving this year, I have got no fewer

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Speaker 1: than seven texts all talking about how to properly prepare

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Speaker 1: a turkey. Pretty Much every dude over the age of

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Speaker 1: fifty is saying, deep fry it. My wife's boyfriend, my wife,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was a Freudian slip. My wife's

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Speaker 1: boyfriend Tyrone. No, my mom's boyfriend Larry, my wife's boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And of course, now here come the angry texts from

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Speaker 1: my wife saying, oh my god, how could you possibly

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Speaker 1: say that? Yes, my my wife's boyfriend makes a way

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Speaker 1: better turkey than I. My mom's boyfriend Larry. It's been

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Speaker 1: sort of a running joke. And my buddy, my good

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Speaker 1: friend Tim, just texted ha ha ha ha ha ha

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Speaker 1: ha I hate everybody is basically the lesson this Halloween.

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Speaker 1: We are having a lot of fun my my mom's

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Speaker 1: but uh, I don't even want to explain what he

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Speaker 1: just texted. We have a long standing joke who would

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Speaker 1: be the worst person if you got divorced that your

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Speaker 1: wife would remarry? And our consensus was DK Metcalf, the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers, because he is cut

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Speaker 1: like a Greek god, he's phenomenally wealthy, and he would

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Speaker 1: play catch with your kids way better than you could.

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Speaker 1: So the running joke is you come home one day

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Speaker 1: and you see like a Rolls Royce in the driveway

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Speaker 1: and it's your son playing catch with a shirtless DK. Men.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this became a joke, but it did,

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Speaker 1: so he said, Yes, my wife's boyfriend, Dk Metcalf is

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Speaker 1: what I'm getting in the lat text. My mom's boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: Larry has been doing deep fried turkeys, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like it is a weird, passive aggressive thing to see

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Speaker 1: whose turkey is better my mom's turkey or Larry's turkey,

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Speaker 1: the deep fried turkey or the traditional turkey. So I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering while my wife is making the Thanksgiving turkey. My

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Speaker 1: side of the family, they're going to be down in

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Speaker 1: Florida with my mom because we're doing our our Dan

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell European getaway to Rome. Actually next weekend, we're not

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Speaker 1: going down to Florida for Thanksgiving this year, we're hosting people,

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Speaker 1: So my wife's side of the family is going to

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Speaker 1: be there. What do you think would happen if I

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Speaker 1: just tried to deep fry a turkey in the garage

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Speaker 1: while she was simultaneously to stop. My producers is saying

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Speaker 1: it will be it will be like sure, noble, that

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Speaker 1: we're just going to have nuclear armageddon at the O'Donnell residence. Now,

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Speaker 1: so already one of Belling's absolute most popular topics, and

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Speaker 1: he always talked about this was people had incredibly specific

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Speaker 1: opinions on how best to cook a Thanksgiving turkey. And

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Speaker 1: I just realized I am now getting into the topic

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Speaker 1: of how to cook a Thanksgiving turkey. I always told Mark,

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Speaker 1: my fear is not that I'm turning into my father,

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Speaker 1: but that I'm turning into him. And now it is complete.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. The shutdown is now in its thirty

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Speaker 1: first day. It is very likely that the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: is going to be forced to pay SNAP benefits. And

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing, right because obviously we want all

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Speaker 1: of these people to be eating. We just want to

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Speaker 1: make it clear that it was Trump who was preventing

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Speaker 1: them from eating. It still boggles my mind after we

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Speaker 1: reported exclusively on this show two days ago that Governor

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Speaker 1: Evers has plenary power, meaning unilateral authority to spend three

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three million dollars that is still sitting

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Speaker 1: there in a federal COVID fund. He could spend that

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Speaker 1: on food security grants for every person in Wisconsin. He

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Speaker 1: is not doing. So this raises a very interesting question

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Speaker 1: as to why. And I think Democrats here in the

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Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin just got dealt a very very serious

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Speaker 1: winning hand here on this question because now they can

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Speaker 1: continue to say, well, it's Trump's responsibility to feed all

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Speaker 1: of these people.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, is Agriculture Secretary brook Rollins. The USDA,

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Speaker 1: which falls under the Agriculture Department, is the one that

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Speaker 1: administers food stamp benefits known as SNAP.

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Speaker 12: We're here today because SNAP benefits run dry tomorrow. So

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Speaker 12: the truth has finally revealed itself, hasn't it Democrats support

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Speaker 12: for programs like SNAP is now reduced to control over

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Speaker 12: people's lives. This last month has shown that the party

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Speaker 12: who constantly says it puts people over politics does the

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Speaker 12: complete opposite. Millions of Americans as of tomorrow will no

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Speaker 12: longer receive SNAP and potentially WICK or even a paycheck.

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Speaker 12: Democrats have instigated a disgusting dereliction of duty unlike anything

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Speaker 12: I have seen in all my years doing this work,

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Speaker 12: all to favor illegal aliens and other radical far left

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Speaker 12: policies that benefit only a small, tiny sliver of their base.

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Speaker 1: That is Brooke Rawlins. She is Agriculture Secretary. How about this?

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Speaker 1: I am getting just my personal cell phone is a okay,

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Speaker 1: my personal cell phone is a horror show tonight. If

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Speaker 1: you want to know what true Halloween terror looks like,

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Speaker 1: would you believe I just got a text from Brad Schimmel,

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Speaker 1: former Attorney general slash Supreme Court candidate who says the

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Speaker 1: best way to make a turkey is to spatchcock it.

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Speaker 1: Am I being pumped? What the hell does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: Then the person who texted me, I said it very

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Speaker 1: prominent in Wisconsin politics. She gave me a free reign

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Speaker 1: to use her name. She said, Dan, you never said,

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Speaker 1: what is the drunkest day of the entire year. It's

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Speaker 1: not Halloween, it's not Saint Patrick's Day's not New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 1: It's the day before Thanksgiving. It was Walkeshaw County Chief

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Speaker 1: Judge Jennifer Doro, who ran for Supreme Court. So basically,

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Speaker 1: if you run for Supreme Court, you are harassing me

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Speaker 1: during a radio I love it. I'm kidding. She said,

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Speaker 1: It's okay to use her name, so long as I

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Speaker 1: tell everybody she got it right, that she guessed it

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Speaker 1: was the day before Thanksgiving. I'll tell you what, folks,

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Speaker 1: it's Fridays. I love doing shows like this where we

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Speaker 1: just kind of cover serious ground but have some fun

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Speaker 1: as well. You're listening to the Dan O'Donnell Show, coming

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Speaker 1: off in the five o'clock hour. Not only do we

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Speaker 1: welcome Reince Previous, the former chairman of both the Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: and National Republican Party committees, as well as the White

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Speaker 1: House Chief of Staff, we also welcome the head of

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Speaker 1: the Border Patrol Union, Paul Perez. You have likely seen

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Speaker 1: him all over Fox News over the past couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks talking about just how successful the president Trump border

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Speaker 1: surge has been not a border surge like we were

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Speaker 1: accustomed to under President Biden, where illegal migrants have been

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Speaker 1: floating to the border basically unchecked, but a surge of

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Speaker 1: enforcement at the border. For four straight months now, not

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Speaker 1: a single, not one illegal immigrant has been released into

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Speaker 1: the interior of the United States. We will talk with

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Speaker 1: Perez about the end of catch and release. I am

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Speaker 1: so excited to be talking to him now. My producer,

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Speaker 1: Jeff wanted to know the burning question on everyone's mind.

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Speaker 1: What did my wife text me during that commercial break

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Speaker 1: after I let it slip that she has a boyfriend

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Speaker 1: named DK Metcalf. She is not. I am hoping she

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Speaker 1: is out shopping with my daughter and didn't hear that

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Speaker 1: still kep you know dog god well, thank goodness. She

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Speaker 1: does not listen to the podcast. She's like, yeah, oh,

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Speaker 1: catch you if you're on Live. I hear you talk

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Speaker 1: enough at home. I'm not going to listen to the

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Speaker 1: podcast now. And yes, by the way, my buddies are

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Speaker 1: absolutely going nuts over the fact that I am talking

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Speaker 1: about our inside joke about DK Metcalf being the single

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Speaker 1: worst human being to be dating your ex wife. Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, oh boy. It is one of those days.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like this on a Friday. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's Halloween, for goodness sakes, we would we can talk

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Speaker 1: about serious policy stuff, and we are. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about serious policy stuff with Ryans and with Paul

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Speaker 1: Perez coming up in the next hour. But I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the stuff that I think has an

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Speaker 1: impact on all of us, which is why we were

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Speaker 1: so focused in that three o'clock hour on the cell

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Speaker 1: phone in school issue. It's not just about cell phones

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Speaker 1: in schools. It's about how we interact with cell phones.

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Speaker 1: It's how we interact with technology more generally. And folks,

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Speaker 1: I know I've sounded like something of a broken record

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Speaker 1: here talking about artificial intelligence over the past couple of

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Speaker 1: months and years. This is going to be the single

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Speaker 1: I am convinced, this is going to be the single

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Speaker 1: biggest conversation moral discussion that human beings are going to have,

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Speaker 1: and that is how much do we outsource our lives

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Speaker 1: to an intelligence that I dare say has already passed humanities.

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Speaker 1: I know that sounds like a bold statement to make,

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Speaker 1: but pretty much every chat bought in existence right now

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Speaker 1: can pass a Turing test, you know, what a Turing

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Speaker 1: test is. A Turing test is named after the very

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Speaker 1: famous coder Alan Turing, and it basically was the standard

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Speaker 1: issue test for whether a machine, whether an artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: has achieved sentience, has achieved an ability to think on

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Speaker 1: its own. That's rote for modern day machinery. For older

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Speaker 1: Turing tests, every single one of them would be deemed sentient,

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Speaker 1: would be deemed self aware. They're clearly not. But we

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Speaker 1: have a different understanding of what sentience is because we

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Speaker 1: have a better understanding and we have a more competent

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Speaker 1: ability to program these machines to think like human beings

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Speaker 1: to solve for example, what is it Humanity's last test?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of this? Humanity's last test? It

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Speaker 1: is the hardest math equations that human beings can come

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Speaker 1: up with. It is thought that machines will solve them.

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Speaker 1: And this is supposed to be the final test for

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Speaker 1: an artificial intelligence, like if you are able to the

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Speaker 1: past Humanity's last test, you're able to do anything as

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Speaker 1: a machine. They're going to pass it in probably a year,

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Speaker 1: less than a year, maybe by twenty twenty seven, possibly

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Speaker 1: by midway through twenty twenty six, but we don't know

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Speaker 1: because of the compounding knowledge that these artificial intelligence systems

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Speaker 1: are able to produce. I mean, these are questions. These

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Speaker 1: are deeper than politics. These are deeper than just the

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Speaker 1: superficial Oh, who's going to win the election. These are

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Speaker 1: questions that we as human beings are going to need

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Speaker 1: to answer and maybe on this Halloween night. That is

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: the scariest thing of all that it's not the matrix

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01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: or the terminator, or ghosts and goblins that we see

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01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 1: in movie theaters or on TV, but that the scariest

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: thing is that human being and all that we're capable

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01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: of are largely irrelevant in the service of human beings.

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Speaker 1: In other words, that we get everything that we could

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Speaker 1: have possibly wanted at the expense of everything that we

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Speaker 1: have built or could possibly build in the future. That's

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Speaker 1: an interesting thought, isn't it? Coming up Ryan's previous You

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Speaker 1: are listening to a Halloween edition of The Dan o'donald Show.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned, we'll be right back after the news. Happy Halloween,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Dan o'donald's show. Five o'clock

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Speaker 1: We are so pleased and honored to be joined by

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Speaker 1: one of the savvyest political people to ever come out

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Speaker 1: of this state of Wisconsin. Rights previous, who honestly riants

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Speaker 1: what haven't you done? It would be easier to list

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Speaker 1: the titles that you haven't had. Wisconsin Republican Chairman, National

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Speaker 1: Republican Chairman, White House chief of staff, ABC News analyst

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Speaker 1: and all around good guy. Welcome to the program, and

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Speaker 1: happy Halloween to you, sir.

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Speaker 8: Well, happy Halloween to you too.

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Speaker 11: Dan.

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Speaker 8: Great to be on the show. I'm actually going to

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Speaker 8: be in Kenosha at the Lincoln Day Dinner tomorrow night,

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Speaker 8: and then I'm gonna go to the Packers game, of

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Speaker 8: course on Sunday, so good Wisconsin weekend.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you get back here a lot?

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Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say I'm in once or twice a month.

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Speaker 8: There's always something because you know, obviously number one, I

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Speaker 8: love Wisconsin. I'm a Wisconsin night. But there's always things

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Speaker 8: for me to do there, and I love the place

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Speaker 8: and being home is just nothing better to it.

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Speaker 3: But I'm in DC most of the time, as most

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Speaker 3: people know, and that has to do with my job

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Speaker 3: and all of the rest. So I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: get back.

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Speaker 8: And have that Miller lyte and brought for breakfast on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And the biggest question, of course, is are you putting

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Speaker 1: out like a trick or treat basket or are you

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Speaker 1: actually handing out candy to kids tonight? Like how does

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Speaker 1: that work at the previous household in the day.

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Speaker 3: Well, it depends.

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Speaker 8: I mean there's some hollows, some halloweens. We get a

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Speaker 8: lot of kids and some halloweens. It's just a trickle.

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Speaker 8: It kind of just depends. And I don't really know why.

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of the problem is we don't have sidewalks.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, But if we we're here, I mean, I'm looking.

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Speaker 8: I came home after lunch here and I'm looking at

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Speaker 8: a big basket a candy by the door, and we're

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Speaker 8: waiting for the kids. We have mostly little ones, but yeah,

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Speaker 8: we've got some big size candy bars as well, just

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Speaker 8: in case there's a few kids there that we want

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Speaker 8: to take extra good care of, especially like the little

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Speaker 8: ones like you know, maybe five, six, seven years old.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta ask, what is the go to candy

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Speaker 1: at the previous household? Do you guys give full candy bars?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing just like you know, the snack size

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Speaker 1: stuff or what do they call it? Fun size?

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Speaker 3: Well, we do both, we do both.

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Speaker 8: We've got the We've got the little ones, and I've

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Speaker 8: got some big ones. And the big ones are like

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Speaker 8: full sized Starburst, the Tropical, the reds. I got the

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Speaker 8: sour Skittles, the regular Skittles, Tropical Skittles, and then and

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Speaker 8: then I got a lot of the little ones, like

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Speaker 8: little gummy bears. And I tend to be a kind

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Speaker 8: of sour air head type star you know, Starburst type.

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Speaker 1: You afo the chocolatey stuff? Okay, all right, that's fair,

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Speaker 1: that's fair, all right, So you are.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people do that, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's it's I think there is a there is

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Speaker 1: a rift in America. It's not left or right, it's

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Speaker 1: not rich or poor. It is sweet and sour versus

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Speaker 1: chocolatey for Halloween, Caddy, I tend to I tend to

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Speaker 1: go with the chocolated goodness. But h sir, you are

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Speaker 1: out in Washington, d C. The shutdown has now been

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Speaker 1: going on for thirty one days. It seems as though

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Speaker 1: there are some rifts in the Democrat coalition. What are

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Speaker 1: you seeing on this shutdown right now in DC?

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Speaker 8: Well, on the shutdown it's getting now it's just down

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Speaker 8: to safety. It's down to like normal life airports, airplanes,

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Speaker 8: PSA agents, And I think that is the tipping point

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Speaker 8: for I think the moderate senators that are out there

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Speaker 8: in the Democrat Party, if there are any but more

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Speaker 8: important you look at Virginia in particular. You've got two Democrats,

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Speaker 8: Tim Keane and Warner, and they're in a tough spot

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Speaker 8: because they've got the airports in Virginia, They've got all

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Speaker 8: of the federal.

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Speaker 3: Employees in Virginia.

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Speaker 8: So though I would suggest to you all to watch

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Speaker 8: what they do on this shutdown, and then I think

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Speaker 8: just generally, and I think you've probably beaten this on

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Speaker 8: the show quite a bit, which is just.

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Speaker 3: A general argument.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the general argument just favors the Republicans, which says,

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Speaker 8: we're going to pass a clean spending bill to keep

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Speaker 8: the government open at current levels. And it's the bill

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Speaker 8: that you wrote, Chuck Schumer. It's the same spelling, it's

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Speaker 8: the same grammar you voted for four times.

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Speaker 3: You do it again.

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Speaker 8: What they're asking us to do is beep one point

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Speaker 8: five trillion dollars in spending to keep the government open

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Speaker 8: for three or four weeks, which is absolutely ridiculous because

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Speaker 8: we're not going to flush down the toilet at least

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Speaker 8: a minor adjustment to Medicaid and a ten year spending window.

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Speaker 8: We're not going to eat one point five trillion on

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Speaker 8: that just to keep the government open for three or

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Speaker 8: four weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, right, And that's the thing that I think

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Speaker 1: the American people understand. The thing that I think Democrats

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Speaker 1: didn't understand about this shutdown is that the media does

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Speaker 1: not appear to be fully in their corner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you saw Jake Tapper basically give a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a reality check to that Democrat congresswoman the other day saying, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a clean continuing resolution. We have

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Speaker 1: never seen one one of those filibustered in the history

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Speaker 1: of the United States government. Democrats, I think, do not

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Speaker 1: have the media advantage that I think they did. Am

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Speaker 1: I reading that right.

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Speaker 3: You're reading it right, You're reading it totally right.

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Speaker 8: But the other piece of this is.

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Speaker 3: That just generally it's complicated.

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Speaker 8: So you know, obviously there's some openings here for Democrats,

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Speaker 8: and it worked for about a week or two because

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Speaker 8: it's complicated, and you know, there must be plenty of

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Speaker 8: blame to go around, and I think the media played

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Speaker 8: around with that narrative for.

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks.

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Speaker 8: But now with real things that are affecting real people,

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Speaker 8: I think the media, I think these guys are saying,

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Speaker 8: wait a minute, this is a clean spending bill.

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Speaker 3: What's the problem.

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Speaker 8: And then if you really cut through the layers of

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Speaker 8: what we're talking about, going back to July, and you

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Speaker 8: can look at the snap benefit issue. But it's the

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Speaker 8: same as medicaid, which is Medicaid in twenty and ten heads,

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Speaker 8: what's fifty forty maybe forty fifty million people at Medicaid

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Speaker 8: in twenty ten. Now we've got eighty ninety million people

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Speaker 8: at Medicaid, and we've basically said, if you are able bodied,

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Speaker 8: you're not a senior, you don't have a kid under

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Speaker 8: seven years old, you don't have mental illness, take all

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Speaker 8: that away.

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Speaker 3: But if you're none of those things, you got to

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Speaker 3: go get a job.

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Speaker 8: And what's happened here over the last fift teen years

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Speaker 8: in this country is an atrocity. And you look at

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Speaker 8: the Snap benefits. I mean, the media today all a snap,

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Speaker 8: snap snop.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 8: We don't want people that need assistance not to get assistance.

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Speaker 3: But the reality is is.

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Speaker 8: That when you had twenty eight million people in two

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Speaker 8: thousand and eight on Snap, this is the food assistance

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Speaker 8: for people that need it, and they should get it

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Speaker 8: if they need it.

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Speaker 3: Today we've got forty one million.

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Speaker 8: That's that's part of this Obama Biden expanded pool, and

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Speaker 8: it's in the States. Take advantage of it. States play

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Speaker 8: into this whole scheme. And you know what, inside out,

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Speaker 8: I know this is like you're very good on these

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Speaker 8: policy debates, but it's it's insanity. But nevertheless, it's good

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Speaker 8: that we've got the high ground on the cr But

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Speaker 8: I think it's also important that we can't cave into

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Speaker 8: this nonsense either, so they come back in a session

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Speaker 8: or probably ought not start backing off on this very

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Speaker 8: minor adjustment over a ten year window to these problems.

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Speaker 1: Ryan's previous joining us here on the Dan O'donnald show.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and earlier this afternoon, a federal judge,

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Speaker 1: of course, ruled that the Trump administration's plan to suspend

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Speaker 1: SNAP benefits to forty two million people amid this government

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Speaker 1: shutdown not tapping into a reserve fund that would have

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Speaker 1: funded them for at least a portion of November. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about to your point, Ryance, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: nine billion dollars per month in SNAP benefits. That's one

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Speaker 1: entitlement program. I mean, it's almost unfathomable. But a federal

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Speaker 1: judge just ruled a couple of hours ago that President

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to have to fund this benefit using

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Speaker 1: the reserve fund. Does that take leverage away? Or do

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Speaker 1: does this sort of serve to inform the American people

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Speaker 1: of just how many people I mean, forty two million people.

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Speaker 1: What is that one in every six or seven Americans

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Speaker 1: is on food assistance I mean, it's it's insane how

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01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: much this entitlement has grown just in the last as

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Speaker 1: you put it, decade, fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think two things.

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Speaker 8: One, Obviously, it could give the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of breathing room, but I really.

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Speaker 8: Don't think that's what they care about. What they care

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Speaker 8: about is the election on Tuesday, and I don't see

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Speaker 8: the Democrats doing anything until after the election on Tuesday.

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Speaker 8: And if Chitter Rally ends up winning in New Jersey,

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Speaker 8: which is going to be is an uptial climb, but

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Speaker 8: it's not if you look at the polling. We can

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Speaker 8: talk about that in a second. It's very doable.

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Speaker 3: For him to win that race.

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Speaker 8: And I think if that happens, then they might come

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Speaker 8: to the table. But either way, they don't have any

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Speaker 8: exit strategy. They drove into a call to sack and

1347
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 8: they really don't know how to get out of it.

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Speaker 8: They're going to have to acquiesce, and my sense is

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Speaker 8: that what they do is there'll be a committee that

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Speaker 8: gets formed. They'll look at these hospital reimbursement issues, they'll

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Speaker 8: look at the state reimbursement issues, the ACA extenders, which

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Speaker 8: is the Obamacare extender issue, and they will figure it

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Speaker 8: out with.

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Speaker 3: It a committee.

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Speaker 8: But the Republicans can't cave on these issues because the

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Speaker 8: one point five trillion, if you think about over ten years,

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Speaker 8: it's one hundred and fifty billion dollars. It's nothing.

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Speaker 3: It's really nothing.

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Speaker 8: And all we did so everyone understands real clearly what

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Speaker 8: constitutes a medicaid cut. In Washington, DC, we said that

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Speaker 8: if you're in that category of people don't have a problem,

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Speaker 8: don't have mental illnesses, you're not a senior, you don't

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Speaker 8: have any kids. Under the current law, people in that

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Speaker 8: category in this expanded Obamacare pool had to go look.

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Speaker 3: For a job and report it. They had to report

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Speaker 3: their job search once a year.

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Speaker 8: What we did is we said, well, now you need

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Speaker 8: to report it.

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Speaker 3: Twice a year.

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Speaker 8: So because you have to report it twice a year,

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Speaker 8: the CBO went back and said, okay, if we make

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Speaker 8: people report twice a year, that's probably going to equal

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Speaker 8: less people on Medicaid by x trillion dollars, maybe not

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Speaker 8: the whole one point five but eight hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 8: So because you are not going to be on Medicaid,

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Speaker 8: because they're actually.

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Speaker 3: Employed, we have a cut of Medicaid.

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Speaker 8: So We've got the Democrats saying, oh my gosh, the

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Speaker 8: Republicans cut Medicaid.

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Speaker 3: We didn't really cut Medicaid.

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Speaker 8: We just got people to work, and there's less people

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Speaker 8: on the government take It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It really does seem as though this is the perfect

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Speaker 1: opportunity for Republicans to really inform the American people about

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Speaker 1: just how many Americans and people who have come into

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Speaker 1: this country who are on the government dole And are

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Speaker 1: you getting the sense that they're doing that effectively or not?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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Speaker 8: I think that we need to explain to people who

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Speaker 8: are the folks in the expanded pool on Medicaid? How

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Speaker 8: did we get from forty million people fifteen years ago

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Speaker 8: to eighty million people today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And who are these people?

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Speaker 8: And then what are the expectations for the people in

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Speaker 8: that pool by the American public. I think that we

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Speaker 8: have a winning argument, which is, if you don't have

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Speaker 8: a problem that we've already talked about twice, but if

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Speaker 8: you don't have a problem, get a job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: That is an eighty percent lenner in America. There's nothing

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01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 8: that pulls better then than a person that says I'm

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01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 8: gonna stop people from taking advantage of the government and

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01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 8: getting free stuff when they otherwise don't have a problem,

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Speaker 8: don't need it, aren't poor because of the fact of

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01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 8: circumstances beyond their control. Right, And if you're not in

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01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 8: one of those categories, you ought to go try to

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01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 8: get a job. That's what we're saying, try to get

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Speaker 8: a job. Is that so much? The ask?

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01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: No and the work requirements, the job seeking requirements, the

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01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: education requirements of the One Big Beautiful Bill are so

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Speaker 1: minuscule that I think most people understand, Yes, this is

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01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: what we want. A working poor or a poor an

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Speaker 1: underclass who is looking for or actively trying to better

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Speaker 1: their lives. Ryan's previous joining us here on the Dan

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell show. I want to switch gears if I can

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Speaker 1: very quickly. The gubernatorial race is pretty much set. It

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Speaker 1: looks as though Mandela Barnes is going to get in

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01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,799
Speaker 1: on the Democrat side. If polling is to be believed,

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Speaker 1: he is an overwhelming favorite. It looks as though Tom Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin congressman, is going to be the overwhelming favorite

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Speaker 1: for Republicans. Sir, if you've been following these primaries, if

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Speaker 1: so very early on, how do you see this playing

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Speaker 1: out well.

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Speaker 8: I honestly, I think the Mandela Barnes pick would be

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Speaker 8: a total gift to the Republican Party. That's the number one,

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Speaker 8: and that's because you can see it all over the country.

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Speaker 8: I don't agree with leftist economic popularism, but that's the

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Speaker 8: only thing that's working in the Democrat Party. The old

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Speaker 8: you know, the Kamala Harris Joe Biden Democrat Party that

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Speaker 8: Mendela Barnes is part of, is not a party that's

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Speaker 8: working for the American people. This sort of woke, defund

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Speaker 8: the police, et cetera type stuff isn't working. And you know,

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Speaker 8: populism is, even if it's left wing populism. I don't

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Speaker 8: like it. I think it's dangerous, but you see it

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Speaker 8: happening all.

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Speaker 3: Over the country.

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Speaker 8: So that's to me, the Bernie Sanders messaging is far

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Speaker 8: more dangerous Republicans than the Mendela Barnes Kamala Harris messaging.

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Speaker 3: So that's the first thing.

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Speaker 8: The second thing is on our side of the aisle.

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Speaker 8: I'm supporting Tom Tiffany, and I'm supporting because number one,

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Speaker 8: I think he's tried in true tests at MAGA. I mean,

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Speaker 8: when you have to take the votes and you have

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Speaker 8: to line up your voting record with I think the

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Speaker 8: Trump agenda. I think it's pretty clear that Tom's been

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Speaker 8: tried and tested.

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Speaker 3: He's got great name idea. The northern Wisconsin's got.

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Speaker 8: To work on it in our listening area here, but

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01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 8: he's got a lot of room to grow. And so

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Speaker 8: and no offense to the county executive. I don't know

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Speaker 8: the county executive, never met him, never spoke to him,

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01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 8: nothing against him. I just think it's a little bit

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Speaker 8: it's a little far fetched.

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Speaker 3: In my mind.

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Speaker 8: And maybe it's too old school that way, but I

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Speaker 8: just think it's quite a reach.

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Speaker 1: No, he does struggle with name recognition, and Tiffany does

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Speaker 1: have the name recognition, he does have the support in

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Speaker 1: the areas that Republicans need to win. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: you were chairman of the Republican Committee, when you were

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Speaker 1: chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin, I should say

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Speaker 1: it was all about southeast Wisconsin. It was all about

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Speaker 1: the Wow counties. Well, the electorate has changed and now

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Speaker 1: it's Tom Tiffany's district that Republicans really need to run

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Speaker 1: up the score in.

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Speaker 8: Well, and then that's one hundred percent true. And I

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Speaker 8: think that when you look at what's moving the electorate.

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Speaker 8: You know, I always tell people I was wondering what

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Speaker 8: America First is all about? And you know, people get

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Speaker 8: caught up sometimes in the president's rhetoric, but the truth is,

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Speaker 8: when you really boil down what he's all about, there

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Speaker 8: are really four areas that really win the election for

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump, and they're all eighty percenters. Things like, do

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Speaker 8: you want to confront China who's ripping off the world.

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Do you want to secure the border and protect the

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Speaker 8: American worker, Yes? That also goes the crime by the way.

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Speaker 8: Do you want to stop wars that.

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Speaker 3: Are never ending?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And bring our troops home. Yes.

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Speaker 8: And the last thing is on an international policy which

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Speaker 8: is sort of now developed over the last year, which

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Speaker 8: is the idea of mutual benefit, which is, Okay, we're

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Speaker 8: going to give X billions of dollars to these countries

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Speaker 8: here and Europe here in Asia over here, what do

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Speaker 8: we get in return for this? So when you think

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Speaker 8: about that messaging, it really it's sort of cultural. It

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Speaker 8: is policy based. It's a feeling and Trump tapped into that.

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Speaker 8: And I just think Tom Tiffany's going to be able

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Speaker 8: to do the same thing in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right, Ryance. I cannot tell you

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Speaker 1: how much I appreciate your insight, how much I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your willingness to take time out of handy candy out

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Speaker 1: to all of the children of Washington, DC.

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Speaker 8: H sir, what's your favorite candy? But you got chocolatey,

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Speaker 8: But chocolatey is not a candy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So my favorite is probably M and M's

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Speaker 1: peanut butter. That's that's probably my favorite. For the chocolatey,

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Speaker 1: for the chocolate stuff, I love it. I love it.

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01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: I love it, or just like a classic Hershey's chocolate bar.

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01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 1: My favorite candy as much as I am going to

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01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: cross the line into sugary sweet and sour, is probably

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01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 1: the Nerds rope. My kids got me into their Nerds

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01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: but they're connected by like some just unholy sugary confection.

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01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: And it's a rope and you can wear it around

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Speaker 1: your neck, as my daughter does, and you just eat

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Speaker 1: the Nerds rope. It's fantastic. Ryan's Happy Halloween. Please let's

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Speaker 1: do this again soon. I so enjoy talking to you,

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Speaker 1: I so enjoy your insights. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, go back, go talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you are listening to the Dan o'donalds show. Back

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Speaker 1: in just a couple of minutes. Getting up in just

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Speaker 1: a second, we are going to talk to Paul Perez.

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Speaker 1: He is the president of the Border Patrol Council, that

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Speaker 1: means he's the head of the Border Patrol Union, to

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Speaker 1: talk about the shutdown, to talk about the difference in

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01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 1: morale and just how things have been going on the

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Speaker 1: southern border from President Biden to President Trump. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: That is coming up on a Halloween spoctacular addition of

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Speaker 1: the Dan O'Donnell show. I happen to think previous is

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Speaker 1: absolutely correct that Democrats are almost certainly just looking to

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Speaker 1: get through this election. In fact, there has been a

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Speaker 1: number of reports out there. Axios I think was the

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Speaker 1: first one to report this that there are cracks in

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Speaker 1: the Democrat coalition. You saw that. You saw that with

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01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,839
Speaker 1: Sean O'Brien, the head of the Teamsters, coming out yesterday

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Speaker 1: and saying, look, we are calling on Democrats to just

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Speaker 1: open up the government. Our people are hurting, we want

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01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 1: the clean cr past. You can see that there are

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Speaker 1: cracks in this coalition and that Democrats are going to

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Speaker 1: cave I happen to think along with Ryan, so that

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen after the elections on Tuesday, you're

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Speaker 1: probably going to see and folks, I don't want to

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01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: be Debbie Downer here, but the reality is we've got

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01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: elections in three very democrats states. The best chance for

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01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: a Republican pickup would be a New Jersey governor with

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01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: Jack Chittarelli, who is within striking distance of the Democrat

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Speaker 1: in that race, Mikey Cheryl, who has some questions about

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01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: her service history. Also, of course, I think probably Jay

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01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:24,839
Speaker 1: Jones is going down to defeat the Virginia Attorney general

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01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 1: candidate just because of the controversy surrounding him wishing death

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Speaker 1: on the Republican Speaker of the House at the time

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01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: in Virginia. But in terms of the Virginia governor's race,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think Abigail Spanberger, the Democrat, is probably

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Speaker 1: going to win there. And I think Zahran Mamdani, the

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01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: socialist communist candidate in New York is cruising to victory.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw on poly Market today he's something

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Speaker 1: like a ninety three percent lock to win. I think

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Speaker 1: poly Market is basically called the race, not that they're

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01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 1: paying out bets, but they're saying he is going to win,

1553
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: and I have a difficult time disagreeing with that. All right,

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Speaker 1: we are going to come back with Paul Perez, the

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Speaker 1: head of the Border Patrol Union, on this the Halloween

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Speaker 1: edition of the Dan o'donald Show, Conservative Thought, not just talk.

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Speaker 1: It is the Dan o'donald Show, Happy Halloween. We are

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Speaker 1: so pleased to be joined by Paul Perez, the president

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Speaker 1: of the National Border Patrol Council. Sir, it is truly

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Speaker 1: an honor to be speaking with you. Thank you for

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01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: all the great work you're doing keeping US Americans safe

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the program.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I'm glad to be here with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, the pleasure is all mine, sir. What impact has

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Speaker 1: the government shutdown had on Border patrol operations?

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Speaker 9: So as far as operations, our agents are still out there.

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Speaker 9: Everybody's reporting to work. Our agents are out there on

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01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 9: the line. You know, we're out in the city's helping

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01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 9: ice out with operation at large. But we have not

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01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 9: had any negative impact to our operations. You know, morale

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01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 9: is still high because our agents are able to do

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01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 9: the job. But you know, a lot of our mission

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01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 9: support employees, the dispatchers that they're you know, those people

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01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,959
Speaker 9: are coming to work too, and and you know, everybody's

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01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 9: getting the job done well.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I don't think people understand

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01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: that your operation is fully staffed, but not permanently. At

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Speaker 1: some point that funding goes away.

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Speaker 9: Correct, Yes, sir, absolutely, At what point is that?

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Speaker 1: Do you know?

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Speaker 9: We're a central personnel. You know, we're a central personnel.

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Speaker 9: So we'll continue to come in, you know, regardless of

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01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 9: whether we're getting paid, you know, and and hopefully at

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Speaker 9: the end of the day everybody will receive back paid.

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Speaker 9: But we're not going to stop just because we're not

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01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 9: getting paid. It doesn't work that way for us. So

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Speaker 9: we're going to continue coming in during the shutdown and

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Speaker 9: maintaining border security operations.

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Speaker 1: And the border security operations that have been going on

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Speaker 1: since President Trump took office are truly remarkable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we see the statistics coming from CBP that there are

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Speaker 1: zero illegals being released into the interior of the country

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Speaker 1: for what four or five months running now, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's remarkable how things have turned around just in the

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Speaker 1: last nine months. Can you talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: how things have changed going from the Biden administration where

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Speaker 1: it felt like border patrol was actively told to stand down,

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Speaker 1: and now with the Trump administration effectively telling you do

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Speaker 1: your job.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, it started on day one. Literally on

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Speaker 9: day one, within the first few minutes of the administration,

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01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 9: we had our leadership change. We had our people sworn in,

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01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 9: and they immediately put together a plan that could have

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01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 9: been put together under the Biden administration if they had

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01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 9: the will, but they didn't. And President Trump, we knew

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Speaker 9: exactly what he was going to do. We knew exactly

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Speaker 9: what he wanted because we had done it the first

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01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 9: time during his first term. So we put the plan

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Speaker 9: in place to completely secure the border once and for all.

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Speaker 9: We put all of our agents on the line. We

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Speaker 9: ended catch and release, the rhetoric during the campaign where

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01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 9: President Trump talked about and his surrogates talked about making

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01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 9: sure that we were going to send the message that

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01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 9: catching release was over and we were going to send

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Speaker 9: everybody back home. It worked because even before he took office,

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01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 9: as soon as the election was done, we saw an

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Speaker 9: immediate impact. And ever since that day, we have completely

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01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 9: turned the border around from what President Biden allowed it

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Speaker 9: to become, which was a free for all thousands and

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01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 9: thousands of people crossing daily. Now, our numbers across the

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Speaker 9: border on a daily are less than a two hundred

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Speaker 9: compared to sometimes ten twelve thousand a day.

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Speaker 1: President Trump said in his address to the Joint Session

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Speaker 1: of Congress, very early on in his term, when it

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Speaker 1: was clear that just having the enforcement of our border

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Speaker 1: laws and just having border patrol agents able to do

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01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: their jobs was working, he said, and I'll never forget

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01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: this quote, it was it turns out we didn't need

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Speaker 1: new laws, We just needed a new president. What was

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Speaker 1: that transition, Like you said, it was night and day.

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Speaker 1: But what was it like during the Biden administration for

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Speaker 1: your average rank and file border patrol officer? And what

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Speaker 1: is it like now?

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Speaker 9: So under the Biden administration, all of our manpower was

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Speaker 9: dedicated to processing, releasing, and babysitting the millions of people

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Speaker 9: that Biden was encouraging to come into the country because

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Speaker 9: he said he couldn't stop it. On day one, President

1639
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 9: Trump stopped it. He said, no more. We're going to

1640
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 9: put our agents on the line.

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Speaker 5: We're going to.

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01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 9: Detect, deter and we're going to arrest anybody that comes in,

1643
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 9: and we're going to process them, and we're going to

1644
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 9: deport them. We're not going to allow them to file

1645
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 9: these asylum claims and then be left in the United

1646
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 9: States for years on end. And that was the immediate impact,

1647
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 9: the ending of catching release. That would have been the

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01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 9: single most important policy that President and Trump put in place,

1649
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 9: that allowed us to put all of our manpower back

1650
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 9: in the field, back on the line securing the border, whereas,

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01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 9: like I said, with President Biden, he had us off

1652
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 9: the line. We had very little man power, if at all,

1653
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 9: actually out there in the field protecting the border.

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Speaker 1: What did he have you doing just taking care of

1655
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: transporting these people into the interior of the country. I mean,

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01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,799
Speaker 1: we hear in Wisconsin heard stories about border patrol agents

1657
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 1: effectively serving as illegal aliens uber service was what was that?

1658
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Speaker 9: Like?

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01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: What was the Biden administration having you doing instead of

1660
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Speaker 1: enforcing border law?

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Speaker 9: It was horrible for morale. What they had us doing

1662
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 9: was working inside our stations and detention facilities, processing people

1663
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 9: as quick as we could to get them out. People

1664
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 9: don't understand how many people we had in custody that

1665
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 9: were just waiting for us to process them so that

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Speaker 9: we could release them. It was a never ending flow

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01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 9: of people coming in. As soon as we let one

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01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 9: hundred out, we got another one hundred and fifty to

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Speaker 9: two hundred in. So that's what we were doing, twenty

1670
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 9: four to seven every day, twenty four hour shifts were

1671
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 9: out there making sure that everybody that we apprehend is

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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 9: taken care of, a medical checks, taken the hospitals, and

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01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 9: then releasing them, which was the biggest blow to morale

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01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 9: that you could ever think of. Year my twenty eight

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01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 9: year career with the Border Patrol.

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Speaker 1: Had never been so bad, oh, I could imagine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even during the Obama years, you didn't see anything like

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Speaker 1: what we saw over the past four did you.

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01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 9: No, not at all, not even close. And we believe

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01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 9: it would have been worse had Kamala Harris one because

1681
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 9: Kamala Harris was a true believer in exactly what Biden

1682
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 9: and his administration weren't doing. So we dodged a big bullet.

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Speaker 9: We are very thankful to the citizens of the United

1684
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 9: States who elected President Trump to come in and clean

1685
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 9: the border up, clean America up. And that's what we're

1686
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,719
Speaker 9: doing now. And President Biden left us a mess because

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01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 9: again he allowed millions and millions of people to come in,

1688
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 9: and it was something to see. People had to actually

1689
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 9: go to the border and see it to believe it.

1690
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 9: And when they did see it, they were astonished at

1691
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 9: what they were watching unfold in front of them.

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Speaker 1: Paul Perez, the head of the National Border Patrol Council,

1693
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: joining me here on the Dan o'donald show. Was it

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01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 1: just the end of Ketchen Release? Because what I had

1695
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: heard throughout the first Trump term was that the implementation

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Speaker 1: of Remain in Mexico aka the Migrant Protection Protocols, were

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01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 1: a big factor in just dissuading this massive surge to

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01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 1: the border where people understood they weren't going to be

1699
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,919
Speaker 1: able to get into the interior of the United States.

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Speaker 1: What sort of impact did that have in addition to

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01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:35,839
Speaker 1: the end of Ketchen Release?

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01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 9: A big impact. And again, you know the strength that

1703
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 9: Donald Trump as president brings to the Oval Office into

1704
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,839
Speaker 9: the White House. He made sure that these countries, specifically Mexico,

1705
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 9: that wasn't willing to do what they did for Trump

1706
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 9: the first term, they weren't willing to do it for

1707
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 9: Biden because they didn't have any respect, they would even

1708
01:48:55,960 --> 01:49:01,799
Speaker 9: fear that administration. So they were allowing care and millions

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01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 9: of people to traverse across Mexico to come into the

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01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 9: United States. President Trump made sure that they got involved

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01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 9: and they had skin in the game and said, if

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Speaker 9: you guys don't help secure your southern border and your

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Speaker 9: northern border with the United States, we're going to impose sanctions.

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Speaker 9: We're going to impose all types of penalties against you.

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Speaker 9: And so they immediately they immediately started helping us secure

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Speaker 9: the southern border. You know, Mexico's allow less country because

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Speaker 9: of the cartels, But they did what they could to

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Speaker 9: help out and made sure that we weren't being overrun anymore.

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Speaker 9: But the biggest, single, most important policy that he put

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Speaker 9: in place was ending catching release and then allowing us

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Speaker 9: to go out there do the job and make sure

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Speaker 9: that we apprehended and were able to detain and remove everybody.

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Speaker 9: If we would have continued catching release, who would have

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Speaker 9: never stopped so by putting those policies in place that

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01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 9: allowed us to kick people out of the country that

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Speaker 9: were wonders for us as well.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that the catch and release policies of

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Speaker 1: the prior administration indicate that they wanted this sort of

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Speaker 1: surge at the border that they wanted all manner of

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Speaker 1: illegals in this country.

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Speaker 9: I believe that you know, a lot of my colleagues

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Speaker 9: got they were termed racist because they said that the

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01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 9: Democrats wanted to change the electorate. And I believe that one.

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Speaker 9: I do believe that their intent was to let as

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Speaker 9: many people into the country and then if they won,

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Speaker 9: or if they controlled the House, the Senate, in the

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Speaker 9: White House, they wanted to grant amnesty. They wanted to

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Speaker 9: have a big amnesty period for people, and I believe

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 9: one hundred percent that was their their plan. They were

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01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 9: destroying the country. They were allowing people that have been

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Speaker 9: convicted of crimes, that have served time in prisons in

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Speaker 9: other countries, they were allowing them to come in and

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Speaker 9: be released into our communities, harming our citizens. They destroyed

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Speaker 9: this country in those few years that President Biden was

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01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 9: in charge. He did to this country what no one

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Speaker 9: should have ever been allowed to do. And now it's

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Speaker 9: up to us, under President Trump's leadership, to go and

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Speaker 9: try and fix what we can to bring this country

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Speaker 9: back to what it once was.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if another Democrat gets into office, they

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01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: will try to do exactly what President Biden was doing.

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Speaker 1: Over the last four years, just sort of surging the country,

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01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 1: changing the demographic makeup of America. If it's a Gavin

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01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: Newsom or heaven forbid, a president AOC.

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Speaker 9: That really scares me, and it scares a lot of

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01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 9: our colleagues, and it should scare a lot of American

1757
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 9: citizens because of what they would bring to the table,

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01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 9: their mentality, their open borders mentality, and not only a

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01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 9: boat been borders, but everything they look at for the country.

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Speaker 3: As a whole.

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Speaker 9: You know, it would destroy our country. And we really

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01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 9: pray to God that you know, we don't have a

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01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 9: president AOC or a Gavin Newsom as president because that

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01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:21,759
Speaker 9: would do undeniable, you know, undeniable destruction to our country.

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Speaker 1: Well, thankfully we do have a President Trump right now,

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Speaker 1: and we do have a Paul Perez who is the

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Speaker 1: President of the Border Patrol Council. Sir, I really do

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Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, and Happy Halloween, my friend.

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Speaker 9: Yes, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan o'donald Show. We will

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01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: be right back after this look back. It is the

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Speaker 1: dano'donald Show on this All Hallows Eve. Happy Halloween to everybody. Look,

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Speaker 1: I know this is going to be a big weekend

1775
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: for partying, for drinking. Tonight is going to be a

1776
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,879
Speaker 1: huge night, I suppose on Water Street on State Street

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01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 1: in Madison. I do really, truly implore everybody to just

1778
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 1: be safe, to have a designated driver. Understand that Uber

1779
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: and lyft are insanely inexpensive, easy to use, and let's

1780
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: face it, you're going to be stimulating the local economy

1781
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 1: by supporting your local gig workers. So please do be

1782
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,839
Speaker 1: safe this weekend. This is actually one of the biggest

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01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 1: weekends for drunk and pair driving crashes, so I just

1784
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: want to make sure everybody is safe. I know trigger

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01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: treating is going on in Milwaukee, in Waukeshaw, Brookfield communities

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01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: that are doing it on Halloween Night. I really do

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Speaker 1: dig that, and I'm super looking forward to next year

1788
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 1: when pretty much every community across Wisconsin on Saturday, October

1789
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: thirty first is going to be doing trick or treating

1790
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: on Halloween Night. It is a whole lot of fun

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Speaker 1: and I just hope everybody is going to celebrate responsibly.

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Speaker 1: We do thank all of our guests, We do thank

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01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: all of you for listening and we do remind you

1794
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 1: that we are coming back, coming up on Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be a big show. I am

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01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: sure of it. Have a wonderful, safe Halloween weekend, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: We are back three oh six Monday afternoon, right here

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Speaker 1: on the Dawn o'donald's Show.