1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Youbzy Boston's Radio World. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on in the Iran War. We're 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: in week four. It's twenty fifth day. I guess today. 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: If I'm not twenty fourth day, well, if you count, 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: I guess February twenty eighth it started. So whatever, it's 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: been twenty four to twenty five days the late word tonight. 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: And I try to check this because those of us 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: who are not in the Washington DC pipeline, if you will, 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: have to sort of keep up to date with what 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: the as I would call it, the cognate scenti are 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: thinking people who are in the know, cognate scenti from 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: the Latin. And as I check out the futures, the 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: stock futures tonight, it would appear that the futures are 14 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: up at least they were a couple of hours ago. 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: And there's also an article in the New York Times 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: which I want to share with you. So the futures 17 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: are up a little bit less than they were before, 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: but they're up across the board, the Dow, the S 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: and P five hundred, and Nasdaq. They are more than 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: recover what the losses were today. I mean it's you know, people, 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: the war is affecting oil prices, it's certainly affecting the economy, 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: and it's also affecting the stock market. So the latest 23 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: from the New York Times is that, And again I 24 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: know that there are some people who love the Times 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: and some people don't love the Times. But the Times 26 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: is reporting tonight and therefore we'll be reporting tomorrow. Is 27 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: that the US has said to have sent around a 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: plant in the Middle East war. Now that's interesting. This 29 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: fifteen point plan was delivered via Pakistan, whose army chief 30 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: has emerged as the key interlocker tour big word meaning 31 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: basically the go between between the US and Iran. Officials 32 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: say the US has sent a fifteen point plan to 33 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: end the war in the Middle East, according to two 34 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: officials briefed on the diplomacy, reflecting the Trump administration's eagerness 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: to find an off ramp from the conflict as his 36 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: grapples with its economic fallout. It is unclear how widely 37 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: the plan, delivered by way of Pakistan has been shared 38 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: with among the Marinian officials, and whether Iran was likely 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: to accept it as a basis for negotiations, nor was 40 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: it clear whether Israel, which has been bombing Iran together 41 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: with the United States, wasn't board with the proposal. So 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: it's fairly complicated. But the delivery of the plan, according 43 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: again to The New York Times, showed that the administration 44 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: was ramping up efforts to conclude a war now in 45 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: its fourth week that has drawn in several other countries. Well, 46 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: the war's drawn in several other countries because Iran has 47 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: struck has struck out against them. I think the one 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: thing that we probably can agree upon at this point 49 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: is that the country of Iran, the political establishment of Iran, 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: has been really destroyed. The military apparatus there. They're still 51 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: able to fire some missiles. And they fired that missile, 52 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: those two missiles the other day that went towards the US, 53 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: the joint US UK base in the Indian Ocean, some 54 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: twenty five hundred miles. One of the missiles I believe 55 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: was knocked down. Neither neither hit the land mass, the 56 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: other landed in the ocean. But what it does show 57 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: is that Iran has missiles which had the capacity to 58 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: go quite a distance twenty five hundred miles. I would 59 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: love to know if our security officials our intelligence officials 60 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: knew that Iran had that capacity. I think the intelligence 61 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: community was surprised. Now the intelligence community does not tell 62 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: us what they know, which is understandable. But if you 63 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: read the New York Times piece, it's pretty clear that 64 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: the administration has put themselves in a position where there 65 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: needs to be some real progress made. 66 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: Or the. 67 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: Administration will probably have to go back to doing what 68 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: they were doing earlier this week, which is bombings, as 69 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: mister Trump said. The President said, bombing to their hearts 70 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: content or bombing their little hearts out. As I think 71 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: what he said. The Pakistan's Army chief of staff his name, 72 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean anything to me. I don't think 73 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: it will mean much to you. Field Marshall see it. 74 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: A Sneer has emerged as the key interlocator between the 75 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: US and Iran, with Egypt and Turkey and veraging the 76 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: Iranians to engage constructively, the officials, added Field Marshall. Mneers 77 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: believed to maintain close ties to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Core, 78 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: putting him in a position to pass messages between the 79 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: warring sides. The plan discusses maritime roots. One of the 80 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: officials said since the beginning of the war, iron has 81 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: effectively blocked most Western ships from safely passing through the 82 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: Strait of Homus, the strategic waterway in and out of 83 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: the Persian Gulf. That obviously has impacted oil prices, cutting 84 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: the global supply of oil and natural gas and sending 85 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: prices soaring. It goes on to say that Iran and 86 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: the US have targeted Israel in the US have targeted 87 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: Iran's ballistic missiles launch as we knew that in production facilities, 88 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: and it's nuclear program in Oboma campaign that began on 89 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: February twenty eighth. American and Israeli leaders have owed never 90 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: to allow Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. My question 91 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: is this, who do you think, who do you think 92 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: is running around and how can the US be at 93 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: all certain that they are talking with people who still 94 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: have any any position of authority in Iran. Now you've 95 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: got to rely upon Pakistan, which has been an unreliable ally. 96 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: They're always at war with India, so it's pretty complicated. 97 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: So what I'd like to do tonight is open it 98 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: up and ask all of you, who, again, in my opinion, 99 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: have a variety of thoughts and ideas here if this 100 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: standoff or they stand down by the Trump administration could 101 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: lead to peace, or if it's a tactical mistake, I mean, 102 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: should we just continue destroying their infrastructure. I suspect that 103 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: there's mixed thoughts within the White House or within the administration. 104 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: I know that there are still US carriers heading to Iran. 105 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: I know into the Middle East, I should say, And 106 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: I know that there are US troops, including I guess 107 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: elements of the eighty second Airborne Division that if not 108 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: are in the region now, will soon be in the region. 109 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: So what I'm trying to do is figure it out 110 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: like most other people do. I hope, I hope that 111 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: whatever leadership is left in Iran, we'll understand that they 112 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: have no way of winning this war in any conventional sense. 113 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: They can hold out for a little longer, they can 114 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: absorb more punishment, but I don't know what that thieves 115 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: for them. I don't think they have an ally in 116 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: the world that they can rely upon, including Russia and China, 117 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: so they have been isolated. None of the other Arab 118 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: states I think, are going to come to their aid 119 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: or their support. I'm just going to open up these 120 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: phone lines, and let's talk about it. This is this 121 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: is an open question victory. The president may feel that 122 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: that they have accomplished everything they need to accomplish, but 123 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you can't walk away and allow Iran 124 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: to rebuild, even though the rebuilding process is going to 125 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: take a long long time. So I'm just opening up 126 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, 127 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I think that of the 128 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: three areas that the Trump administration either has acted upon 129 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: or shown an inclinational act boards being Venezuela, which seems 130 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: to have gone pretty well, not only in extricating Maduro 131 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: extracting Maduro. He sits in a jail in Brooklyn, New York, 132 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: as I understand it, will face trial in the United States, 133 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: as I understand it, and probably the same fate that 134 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: awaits Manuel Noriega awaits Nicholas Maduro. Iran is a much 135 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: more difficult question at this point, primarily because of the 136 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: geography and the size of Iran, a huge land mass 137 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: and ninety million people. It doesn't seem to me at 138 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: this point amongst the Iranian population to be much of 139 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: an appetite for an uprising, and I know that there's 140 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: hope that the Iranian military, as opposed from the Iranian 141 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guard might do something. But it's been three and 142 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: a half weeks, and if if the Iranian people don't 143 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: rise up, I don't I hope they're not counting on 144 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: the United States to send boots on the ground, because 145 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that Donald Trump is that is inclined 146 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: that way, but you might disagree with that. And then, 147 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: of course, the third part of this three legged stool 148 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: is Cuba, which I think mister Trump would like to 149 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: get to quickly for a variety of reasons. Uh, Cuba's 150 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: lifeline was Venezuela, and that would be that would be 151 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: the third third act that that that we would undertake. 152 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: So I want to hear from you six one, seven, two, five, 153 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 154 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: I know that there are a lot of Trump fans 155 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: in my own audience, and there are a lot of 156 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: members of my audience who are disinclined towards President Trump. 157 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask the question that I've asked, how 158 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: does this end? How does this run incursion, whatever you 159 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: want to call it, war, full blown war? How does 160 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: it end in on whose terms I hope it ends, 161 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: and I hope it ends on our terms. I make 162 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: no apology for that, but I'd love to hear from you. 163 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, 164 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: nine three, one ten thirty. My name's Dan Ray, and 165 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: this is night Side. If you're listening, and if never 166 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: called the show before, new phone callers are always welcome. 167 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Friends of the program are always welcome. Six one seven, two, five, 168 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 169 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: I think that this is probably the most most critical 170 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: weeks of the Trump administration that lie before us, and 171 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: I think that he does not have an open ended 172 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: opportunity to continue this this this, I think because we 173 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: are in impatient people, and because we are used to 174 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: sixty minute television programs, I think that works against us, 175 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: and I think Iron understands that. But we have to 176 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: do whatever we need to do to wrap this up 177 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: quickly and effectively. Feel free. You know you have the numbers. 178 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: My name's Dan Ray. We have the microphone coming back 179 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: on Nightside. 180 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 181 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm here, all right, let's welcome back. Let's go to 182 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: a phone call six one seven, two, five four ten 183 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty I 184 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: got Gary in New Jersey. Gary, you first this hour 185 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: and night side terms. 186 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. There is no way that 187 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: a nucle hero Iran, Iran would ever benefit mankind that 188 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: at all. And the way it has to end is 189 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: we got to do whatever we gotta do. And I'm 190 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: no saber rattler, you know, and as you know, I'm 191 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: a Vietnam veteran. I more than understand what it's like 192 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: going in country and the sacrifice that young people have 193 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: to have. But Iran has a nuclear weapons. I could 194 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: see them putting a big hurt on the world. And 195 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: whatever we got to do to stop that. And as 196 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: long as we got to do, seems like we're doing 197 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: a good job now and whatever we gotta do to 198 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: mop it up, we gotta do. 199 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: Well. The problem, here's here's the dilemma. Gary, let me 200 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: run this one by you. Okay, Let's assume we just 201 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: have bomb them back literally to the Stone Age, which 202 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: I think we've done. Okay, we can bomb and bomb 203 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: and bomb and bombing. Who do you deal with? Who? 204 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: Over there? I mean you know, if we get into 205 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: the war with a regular country, you and and you 206 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: get pay, well, you have a peace negotiation or a surrender. 207 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: These people are going to refuse to surrender. But who 208 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: surrender actually speaks on behalf of the people. My disappointment 209 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: at this point is that the Iranian people, and I 210 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: know that I have Iranian listeners, have not risen up 211 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: and and it's like they're waiting for the eighty second 212 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: airport division. I don't think that's going to make a difference. 213 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think what they have to do is if 214 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: no one steps up, they got to find someone to 215 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: go there. There's a lot of expatriots want to go 216 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: back there, and a push comes to show to get 217 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: things rolling, and that's what we gotta do. But the 218 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: saying is, you know that a nuclear Iran would probably 219 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: in the world because you know they don't care and 220 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: when you're in a country it doesn't care about killing 221 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: their own Yeah they yeah, no props. 222 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, But I but I think, well, I think 223 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: I think Garan accrred me if I'm wrong, But I 224 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: or you think I'm wrong, I think we're in We're 225 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: past that point. I I think there their their structure 226 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: has been badly damaged. Well, we could go in and 227 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: blow up their oil fields if we really want to, 228 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: cause you know, starvation, but I don't think we want 229 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: to do that. But I think that that they manufacturing 230 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: base has been destroyed. I think that their their nuclear 231 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: facilities in their mountains, which we which we labored over 232 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: for years, have been taken out. They do have apparently, 233 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: uh some enriched uranium. I forget what the number was, 234 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: but they basically said they had the ability to make 235 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: eleven bombs. Well, they don't have missiles at this point, 236 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: probably to. 237 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: To right to deliver them. 238 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: And so, but we now know that they do have 239 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: some missiles. They could go twenty five hundred miles. So 240 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: that makes it all the more reason for us to 241 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: say we got to finish the job. 242 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: Well, the one thing is, and I know a lot 243 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: of people won't agree with me, not that I really care. 244 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: I know that we have I mean, you know, hey, look, 245 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: I don't like to be you know, contrary with anybody. 246 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: We all have our own opinions, you know. But I 247 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: can tell you something. Even if we have to garrison 248 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: troops there like we did after World War two in Europe, 249 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: it would be a benefit to humanity. 250 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: But what really gets me, I don't know that the 251 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: American people would agree. 252 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: With you on that one, and I don't think so. 253 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you why if that's the only way 254 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: you can do it to keep nuclear weapons out of 255 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: their hands. I don't think. I don't think someone in 256 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: New York or California would like to get hit with 257 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: one of their. 258 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: New York absolutely not. But how do you convince the 259 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I think. 260 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: I think I don't think Donald see. 261 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: What people say, Gary, but I. 262 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: Don't think Donald Trump can convince anybody, I mean anyone 263 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: who doesn't like him. The man could cure cancer. And 264 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: they said, oh, well, you know, well. 265 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: It doesn't help when when he when he makes the 266 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: comments that he made about Muleer and stuff like that, 267 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: or when he made about Rob Reiner. I mean, that's well, 268 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't help. 269 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: He's a New York wise ass. 270 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 271 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: The truth is I grew up with a hundred Donald 272 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: Trump's there. He's the same kind of guy that's on 273 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: the corner waiting for the daily news at midnight. And 274 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 3: if you want his opinion, just ask him. He'll give 275 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: it to you. And I hear you. 276 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: I spoke to him. A bunch of students would be 277 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: you yesterday, and I used the example when they ask 278 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: me about Donald Trump, is that if you and I 279 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: bumped into each other and on the streets of Boston, 280 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure that I would say to you, g I'm sorry, 281 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: excuse me, sorry, and you'd say the same thing and 282 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: would move on. If, on the other hand, we were 283 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: in New York and some New Yorker bumped into us, 284 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: we'd be like, do you want to go? Let's go. 285 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to go 286 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: to the mattress and do what you got to do. 287 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: All right, Gary, appreciate your call as all you got 288 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: us go in here up, so a lot of people 289 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: are going to react to what you have to say. Thanks, 290 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: Garrey Tome soon, good night. Let me go next to 291 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: I got Neil in Panama, one of my favorite callers. Neil. 292 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: If I got to hold you through the news, I will, 293 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: but I want to get you on. Go right ahead, Neil. 294 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, how's everything going. It's been a little over here. 295 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Are you're back home? Where you're down Panama? 296 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 4: I'm in the South Shore presently. We just returned we'll 297 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: just return three weeks tomorrow. We returned from the Gulf. No, no, 298 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: we returned from the Gulf. We were in the war. 299 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you were over there when the hostilities began. 300 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, we get out of there. 301 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: We had to. 302 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: It was kind of like a movie. We had to 303 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 4: drive through Saudi Arabia. 304 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 305 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: Once we got through into Saudi Arabia from from the 306 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 4: from Bahrain. 307 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: We go over there on business or pleasure business. 308 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: I was working and we got to read. We got 309 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 4: a flight to Istanbul, we got distant bull to Boston, 310 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: and we made it home safe. But we were making 311 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: make no mistake, we were watching the drones and the 312 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: missiles overhead. So we were in it. 313 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: We were in the How does how does this end? 314 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: Somebody who probably has more knowledge of the Middle East 315 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: than I do, because I've never been to the Middle East, 316 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: have been to Europe, been to you know, uh, New 317 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: Zealand recently, which was great. But how do you how 318 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: does this end? Realistically? In your in your eyes? Who 319 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: do we negotiate with? 320 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: Okay, that's a loaded question. I do have people still 321 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: in the theater that I speak with people on the ground. 322 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: I do have limited intelligence, Folks, most of it is 323 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: alternative media, alternative to mainstream media. So you know, it's 324 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: just a personal opinion I don't. 325 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: Have, so we do here on Nightside. Don't go ahead. 326 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: I don't see things ending well or anytime soon. I 327 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: think people are underestimating Iran. The first thing I want 328 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 4: to correct is the Diego Garcia. Iran has denied that 329 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: missile attack. Whether they did or didn't, it still needs 330 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: some proving, but they have denied that attack. So if 331 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: if that's correct, was that a false flag attempt or event? 332 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 4: Something to consider the negotiation? 333 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: When when I think of a false flag, I think 334 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: of the Gulf of Tonkin, which initiates something. We were 335 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: well underway when they fired that off. And if if 336 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: they if they say they didn't fire that off, I 337 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: want to know who fired it off. And I don't 338 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: believe the I don't believe the Iranians. Frankly, they have 339 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: put out some phony AI videos of sinking US battleships. 340 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that. 341 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: Goes both ways. That cuts both ways too. Now, three 342 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: party negotiations, it's not just the Packis, it's the Pakistanis 343 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: and the Turks and the Egyptians. They're all in a 344 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: three way to assist this. Yeah, another thing that should 345 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: be taken into consideration. You know we talk about nuclear 346 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: armed Iran, well, a nuclear program, yes, nuclear weapons no, 347 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: And that's been conferred by your own intelligence and they 348 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: stopped that back in two thousand and two, two thousand 349 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: and three time frame. Could they make a nuclear explosion, 350 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 4: of course, but the Saudis have had that capacity for decades. 351 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: They funded Pakistan's nuclear program, so they have had the capacity. 352 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: Are worried about the Saudis? Are you worried about the Saudis? 353 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: They have mentioned that they are entering maybe entering the war, 354 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 4: which may be true, it may not be true. 355 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to drop a new coon. Look, 356 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm worried about a dictatorship because they think that that 357 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: if it all ends, they go to heaven. 358 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, there's a lot of that in your evangelical 359 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: movement in your own country. 360 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: But the running is not running our country. 361 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a neo con. Foreign policy has been running 362 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: your foreign policy for for a very long time. 363 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: But the neo cons that's not a neo con. I 364 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: hope you're not. 365 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: He takes his orders who does he take his orders from? 366 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: I don't think he takes his orders from anybody. Do 367 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: you really think he takes his orders from Pete from 368 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: someone above him? 369 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot above him that he is 370 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: responsible to. And you can go to the Donor class 371 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: and go to the Epstein class. There's a lot of 372 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: ways you can know with that. So I'm not talking 373 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: about the Saudi's using a nuclear weapon. We're talking about 374 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: the suit. Saudi's have a similar capacity and nuclear capacity 375 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 4: that Iran has. Iran does not have missile delivery and 376 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 4: the warhead to deliver a nuclear weapon nowhere to do. 377 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, let me do that, Let me 378 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: do this, Neil, let me hold you over here. I 379 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: got to take a newscast. Okay, stay right there, and 380 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: I love you as a caller, and I love you 381 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: as as someone who's going to make people think. So 382 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: we'll be right back with Neil from Panama, who's actually 383 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: from originally from Boston and he's just back from the 384 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: Middle East. We'll take a finish up with his call 385 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: and get your calls. The only line open right now 386 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: is six point seven thirty back on night Side. 387 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio. 388 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: Let me get right back to Neil, my friend from Panama, 389 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: originally from Massachusetts. So Neil, let me get you to 390 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: the chase here. Okay, we could disagree. How do you 391 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: see this, uh? Or do you not see it ending? 392 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: And and tell me why? 393 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: You know? Everything ends at some point and in a 394 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: very very very very tough one. I see it going 395 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: a couple of different ways. And if if the Saudis, 396 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: because the Arab Emirates the Amortis seemed to be already 397 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: at ah at least a cold war, if not a 398 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: complete hot war which around currently. If Saudis go in, 399 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 4: that is just going to be a complete disaster for 400 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: the Gulf. They're going to head to salianization plants, the 401 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 4: energy hubs. Uh, that's going to be a disaster globally. 402 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: Those countries won't be able to survive without water. So 403 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: there is just a lot of bad things that can 404 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 4: happen if and unless don a t unless uh your 405 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 4: president there can uh can lose interest and say and 406 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: and and head over to Cuba and take care of 407 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 4: his business. 408 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: There's not He's not going to go to Curea until 409 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: until this is some form of fashion wars prob know 410 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: that you know? 411 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: Do you certainly that? 412 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's my opinion. I'm here to give opinions. Okay, 413 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: I think that I know, and you didn't know nothing. 414 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to say. I know in my I'm trying. 415 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: I'll take the correction. I know in my heart. Okay, 416 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: I think that they're ready to deal with Cuba, and 417 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to touch He's sworn enough 418 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: not to do that. My problem is, how do you 419 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: negotiate who do you negotiate with? I don't understand how 420 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 2: you do that. 421 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 4: And that's what Well, the Iranians originally had kind of 422 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: like three levels militarily and then as far as the 423 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: good government with their parliamentary system and then the leadership 424 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 4: that that that that parliamentary kind of votes in so 425 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: to speak, not exactly like we do it, but so 426 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: to speak. And you know, they've expanded from three levels, 427 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 4: four levels to six levels, seven levels down where if 428 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: one is wiped out, the next one steps on. When 429 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: they get wiped up, the next one steps in. So 430 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: there's seven levels deep. That doesn't mean you can't take 431 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: out also the levels you've proved adept at that or 432 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 4: it might. 433 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: Be at the fifth or sixth level, someone says, no, Moss, 434 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I don't know uh from Neil. 435 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: I look, I got pack lines and I gotta I 436 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: gotta run here. But come on back more often. And 437 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: if you hear anything on this, I just I'm always 438 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: looking for information. I am smart enough to know that 439 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: I don't know everything. I have opinions. That's what I 440 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: have to do to do my show. Uh, and I 441 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: only state what I truly believe. 442 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: But my eight hours time zone eight hours ahead of you, 443 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: So calling you was not all that easy to do. 444 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: No, I get it. I get it. Well, let me 445 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: ask you. Have you vacated Panama or no? 446 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 4: No, no, I haven't been back there since last April. 447 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: But we'll be leaving into the much. 448 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: Okay, keep in touch, keep in touch. I enjoy and 449 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: your perspective tonight was very important. I really do appreciate it. 450 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. 451 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: If you want to hear about the escape evacuation, I'll 452 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: be happy to tell you all about it. 453 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: Well, maybe a next conversation. I would love to hear 454 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: about that, but I have a bunch of other folks 455 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: I want to accommodate this, so absolutely, you know, if 456 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: you're around this week later on, give me a call 457 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: and we can. I'll have Rob. Rob will give you 458 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: my direct line. Rob, give me my direct line. He's 459 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: probably has it. Anyway, give me a call tomorrow and 460 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: we'll talk off air. Okay, yeah, I have it. 461 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 4: I'll text you. 462 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 6: Thank you. 463 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: That's great. Okay, thanks, Thanks, talk to you soon. All right, 464 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: let's keep rolling here. I'm stow. Kind of slowed everything 465 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: up here, but that's okay. Let me go to Jonie 466 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. Joni, you were next on Night Side. Welcome, 467 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: Oh hi Dan, Hi Jonie. 468 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 7: Yeah. I want to say what issue end game and 469 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 7: all this? 470 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think Israel wants regime change, There's no doubt 471 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: about that. But at the same time, Israel relies on us, 472 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: and I think that we can still we will allow 473 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: Israel to do what they want to until we feel 474 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: that what they're doing is inconsistent with what our goals are. 475 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: And if our goals are to end this and shut 476 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: it down, and we have taken around out enough Israel, 477 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: Israel's in a much better position today than they were, 478 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: and I don't think we're going to allow Israel to 479 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: basically be the the the tail that wags the dog. 480 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: We're still the big dog in my opinion. 481 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 7: Okay, Another thing is, how do you know you don't 482 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 7: trust the military if they did the start out, you 483 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 7: know you didn't trust them. That's their own governments. 484 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Well, what you hope? I think what you hope is 485 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: as whenever you defeat a power, as we defeated countries 486 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: during world following World War Two, that people will come 487 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: and say, look, you know we are we are not, 488 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: you know, supporters of the Ayatola. We love our country. 489 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: We would like to get our country back to its 490 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: cultural roots, its Persian roots, which you know, they were 491 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: very westernized culture before before the eye tooler took over, 492 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: perhaps to westernized, but they were westernized culture. So I 493 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: think that there's enough people over there. Young people went 494 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: into the streets to take on the government in January. 495 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: I think it's time for them to go back into 496 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: the streets. The future of Iran doesn't rest with usgis. 497 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: The future of Iran rests with the Iranian population. 498 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 7: Okay, that's my thought. As long as it was the 499 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 7: Middle Eastern Cuba. 500 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: Well, let's worry about Cuba after we deal with Iran. 501 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean this, you know, let's focus is. 502 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: We supported Castro years ago, then he turned on us. 503 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well Castro was a huge mistake. There was 504 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 2: an absolute huge face. You know, our intelligences failed us 505 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: on that. I think we know what Iran is all about. 506 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: We've dealt with iron now for forty seven years. It's 507 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: time for a change, and I'm relying upon the Iranian people. 508 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: And if I'm naive, that would wouldn't be the first 509 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: time I was called naive this week. Okay, thanks Jody. 510 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 7: Well, I think we've been a war with them for 511 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 7: forty seven years. Trump finally said it. 512 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well absolutely, that's what I believe when when they 513 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: took American lives over all, Right, Jony, I gotta run 514 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: because I'm up on my break called talk to bye bye. 515 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: Take a quick break, coming right back on night Side. 516 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: I got Tammy in Ohio. You're up next, Tommy, stay 517 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: right there, coming back on night side. 518 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 519 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: His great line France's army chief of staff. I didn't 520 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: even realize they had an army general only koking, only joking, 521 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: that's a joke, General Fabian Munda said Tuesday in a 522 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: Paris Defense and Security Forum that while France's relationship with 523 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: the US is very strong, he lamented that they have 524 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: just decided to intervene in the Near and Middle East 525 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: without notifying US. Hey, pal, if the American troops hadn't 526 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: saved France, you guys would still be speaking German. Fabian General, 527 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: Fabian Moundan. I don't need to listen to a to 528 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: a French general. Let me tell you, uh, never go 529 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: to Tammy and I want to listen to Tammy in 530 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: Ohio though. Hi, Tammy, welcome, How are you? 531 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: Hi? 532 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 8: You're wonderful, Your listeners and everything else are awesome. 533 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: Thank you? 534 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 8: Who invented the clock? 535 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 2: Who invented the clock? M I don't know, but somebody 536 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: probably a lot smarter than me. By the way, Tammy, 537 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: since your first time, colin. 538 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 8: No the second time? 539 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I heard from you before. I don't know. 540 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: So you asked me a question, which means you want 541 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: to make a point, Go right ahead and make your point. 542 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: The Iranians they did. 543 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's great. 544 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 8: I mean, I know that Trump is doing awesome, so 545 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 8: figure it out. Everything's at due time. Well, I've been 546 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 8: waiting so long. 547 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: I lost Well, the one thing that Trump said today 548 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: which I am a little curious about. He did not 549 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: amplify on it, and people have not talked about it. 550 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: But the President today said that Iran this afternoon, he said, 551 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: gave a very big present related to oil and gas 552 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: that arrived today. He said they did something meaning the Iranians, 553 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: whoever they that that would be, was an amazing They 554 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: gave us a present and the president arrived today. It 555 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money. 556 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to tell you what the president is, 557 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: but it was a very significant prize and they gave 558 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: it to us, and they said they were going to 559 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: give it, so they meant one. That meant one thing 560 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: to me. We're dealing with the right people. I have 561 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 2: no idea what he's talking about, no idea, And I 562 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: don't think that it's smart for him to play those 563 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: sorts of games with the American public. 564 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: Exactly. 565 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 8: And I want to know why all of a sudden, 566 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 8: Pakistan's and the picture. 567 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: Why Pakistan is in the picture. Yeah, Pakistan has relationships 568 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: with the Revolutionary Guard and they have relationships with us, 569 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: and they are negotiating, and we talked last hour about 570 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: this general from Pakistan who is one of the key negotiators. 571 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 2: But apparently according to a Neil from Panama, and I've 572 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: read it elsewhere, that Turkish and Egyptian forces individuals are 573 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: involved in trying to bring this this situation or close. 574 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: We're in the fourth week, and although it would be 575 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: nice to think that we could continue to do this 576 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: for as long, at some point we run out of ammunition. 577 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: At some point the American people run out of patients, 578 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: and I think the President has to be thinking about 579 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: that in my opinion. 580 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 8: No, we're not gonna ammunition. We're not gonna patients. Here's 581 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 8: the clock. 582 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's always the clock. It's the clock in sports, 583 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 2: and it's also the clock in politics. Timmy, I gotta run. 584 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: We will talk again soon, I hope. 585 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 7: Okay, your people are awesome. I love listening to you. 586 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 8: If you're relaxing and your people are so informed, they're 587 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 8: learning everything else. 588 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Timmy. I appreciate it. I know 589 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: my audience appreciate your comments as well. We'll talk soon. 590 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: Thanks again, Timmy. Let me go to Jeff and wal Dam. Jeff, 591 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: we're tight on time. Great to hear your voice. I 592 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: tried to call you back the other day. It was unsuccessful. 593 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: Go right ahead. 594 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Long time though, talk on the air 595 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 5: in anything. You know, I'm no genealistic warhawk, but you know, 596 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 5: it is imperative for the world to have a non 597 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 5: nuclear r and it has to be recognized. And I'd 598 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 5: like to address as individuals who oppose the war on 599 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 5: the grounds of there being no imminent threat. Well, in 600 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 5: my view, an imminent threat would probably be too late, 601 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 5: because you never want to have them in a position 602 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: to commit nuclear blackmail, no questions to any nation. So 603 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 5: they have to be denuked. There has to be non 604 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 5: nuclear and we have to realize, of course, that we're 605 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: dealing with a culture that is really not agreeable to 606 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 5: rationality in terms of its own interests. Okay, the fanatics 607 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: and the regime has to be ended as a prospect 608 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 5: of the idea of nuclear weapons for these irrational fanatics 609 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 5: is absolutely unacceptable. That's all I happened. 610 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: You picked well, you said it, You said it well, 611 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: and it's in our interest, in the interest of Israel, 612 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 2: and those are the two. 613 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: One in the world and the world in the world. 614 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: And you know, it's interesting because even the Muslim countries 615 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 5: in the region, many. 616 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: Of them they found. 617 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 5: That's really the thirties want them, wants them out. 618 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: Jeff, I got I got one more. I got to 619 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: get in here, So I'm gonna let you run for now. 620 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: I appreciate your call. Please call more often, uh, and 621 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: we'll talk privately. 622 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 5: Okay, thanks you, absolutely, thank. 623 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: You very much, Bob and Rain and Bob I got 624 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: like maybe a minute and a half, Max, What do 625 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: you got for me? 626 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 6: Okay? Dan, I understand, uh, what's been going on for 627 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 6: the last forty seven years. And you understand what's been 628 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 6: going on for the forty last forty seven years, But 629 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 6: the majority of the American people do not understand, Dan, 630 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 6: what's been going on for the last forty seven years. 631 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 6: And my major concern is, uh, the impact of this 632 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 6: on America and the timing of this is I think terrible. 633 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 6: And I think that it's going to cost us the 634 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 6: mid terms. And I think unfortunately, it's you know, going 635 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 6: to be a disaster for President Trump for his remaining 636 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 6: two years because I think we're going to get destroyed 637 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 6: in the mid terms. 638 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: I think it's too early to make that decision, to 639 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: make that determination. And again, you're you're talking about it 640 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: from the Trump administration's point of view. They need to 641 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: understand that that that same clock that is ticking on 642 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: the patients of America is also picked ticking in terms 643 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 2: of the mid terms. And I think that's going to 644 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: be a consideration that he will he will never admit that, 645 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 2: but that has to be ticking in the back of 646 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: his head as well. And I think it's ticking in 647 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: the pack of the Democratics hat and the Democrats hat too. 648 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 6: Hey, look, the Democrats of it and the young people 649 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 6: have no idea what's going on, and you know they're 650 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 6: the drivers now, and it's going to be a bad 651 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 6: result for America. 652 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think it's too early to 653 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: say that, and I hope that. I don't care who 654 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: the president is. I'm rooting in when the American military 655 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: forces are sent somewhere, I want them to be finish 656 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 2: the job, get it done, and get home as quickly 657 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: as possible with as few injuries or worse. Simple as that, 658 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 2: I'm rooting for America. All right, Thank you too. I 659 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: know you are, I know you are. Thanks Bob, Talk soon, 660 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 2: Rob Brooks. It was a busy night. Thank you very much. 661 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: Great night. I want to thank Mariader as well. I 662 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 2: want to take all the callers. You guys make the show. 663 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: I simply run the show. You make the show. I'll 664 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: end us. All all dogs, all cats, all pets go 665 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: to heaven. That's where my pal Charlie Ray is, who 666 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: passed sixteen years ago in February. That's where all your 667 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: pets are who have passed. You loved them, they loved you. 668 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: I do believe you'll see them again, hope see again. 669 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: Tomorrow night at Nightside. I will be on Facebook Nightside 670 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 2: with Dan Ray in about two or three minutes. Join 671 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: me there and I'll see you. Maria. Will see you 672 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: tomorrow night at four thirty, and I'll see you tomorrow 673 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 2: night at eight. Have a great Wednesday, everyone,