1 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: Live from the Don's Appliances Studios, where Pittsburgh shops for appliances. 2 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: This is WTV Pittsburgh. 3 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: That being said, bitching about the Browns no trading Flacco 4 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: was a bad look for Mike Tomlin and it made 5 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: it look worse last night. 6 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I thought it was gamesmanship and they were gonna 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: come out and come after him, and that is not 8 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: what happened. 9 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 5: Now it just looks like the guy who loves to 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 5: come out and say. 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: We do not care is like, why did they do 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: this to us? 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 5: It looks bad. 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 6: We know that. 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: You know that. And then Austin. 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: Powers when he gets run over, when the guy gets 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: run over by the forklift. Yeah, but it's like one 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: hundred yards away. It's like, dude, we saw this coming. Yeah, 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: as soon as the trade was made, it was like no. 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 7: No. 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 4: Brandy Bellman and the DV morning Show. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 7: We were processing so much of our pain. 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 8: Yeah on Friday, and we still will continue to do that. 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: You think, oh yeah, you think not through it? 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 7: No Steelers football, and we were through it. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm not over this and I can't stop thinking about 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: it no matter where I look. No, because that was 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: the time to kick a divisional opponent off a cliff. Yeah, 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: not to give them newfound life with their forty year 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: old quarterback. And that's exactly what we did. And by 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: the way, the road is about to get narrow, you know. 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: I mean we got Green Bay coming to town this Sunday. Yeah, 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: we got at Indianapolis, who is playing out of their 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: mind this year. There's the surprise team of the year 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: because of the way Danny Dimes is playing. We play 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: the Bengals again, right, So Joe Burrow is gonna or 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco's coming to town. Sorry I called him Joe 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: Burrow because that's what he looked like on Thursday night. 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: And you know, we still got the Ravens twice at 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: the end of the season, when Lamar is most likely 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: going to be healthy. So I know that everybody thinks 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: they're dead, but they're They're never dead to me. I 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 3: just I have a hard time that how many times 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: in our adult life have the Ravens been like completely 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: out of a season. I don't remember that many times 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: They've been competitive, just like we have. That's why that 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: rivalry for me is the strongest, is because that rivalry 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: was forged in the postseason. 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why we hate them. 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: That's why we hate them. We battled them. 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: We I mean, I feel like we've gotten the better 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: of them in the postseason. You know, we beat them 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: to go to a super Bowl that we won. They've 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: knocked us off a few times in the playoffs of 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: late I mean last year they blew our doors off, 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: and so you know, I'm still not I'm still not 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: over it. I still don't know how we fix what 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: ails us. 60 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 7: There's a lot of challenges. I'm glad. 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 8: You know, we'll get to talk with Tim Benz a bit, 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 8: which you know he kind of always revs the engine, 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 8: so he'll be on a little Yeah. 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: He's not gonna calm us down. 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 7: No, No, he literally you mad, bro, so. 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: Like yeah, and I feel like he's talking directly to us. 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 7: He is, So he'll be a little later on this hour, 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 7: I did see like a. 69 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 8: Koboli tweet saying that if the season ended today, This 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 8: was yesterday because I was watching nothing, but you know, 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 8: football and everything that I watch is in the context 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 8: of how it impacts the Steelers. Yeah, but he said 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 8: if the season ended today, the Steelers would win the 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 8: AFC North and be the fourth seed. They would host 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 8: Buffalo in a first round playoff game. 76 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: That's cool. 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 7: And then I'm like, okay, okay, okay. 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: Oh you like that stuff. 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: See I can't stand that ye season ended today. Oh 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: you mean a quarter of the way through the season. 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 8: That's like all the tiny little bit of like chum 82 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 8: in the water that I need. 83 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, Coboli, let's go. 84 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 8: Well you both put a sandwich in our pocket and 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 8: let's go. 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: There's so many people telling us so many different things. 87 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 3: If you have the Cobolis of the world talking every 88 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: week about if the season ended right here, then you 89 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: have you know, the Max Starks of the world, who 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: is much more calm and collected and even keeled, saying, well, 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 3: you got to give these guys five to six weeks 92 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: on the offensive line to really even know what you have. 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: And then you have you know, the actual like hardcore 94 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: Tomlin haters that like, this season is done, it's already 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: over fire, Tomlin, move on. And then you have the 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: rest of us who are kind of in the mushy 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: middle that are like, I don't know what to make 98 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: of this team. A Rod has been the pleasant surprise, right, Like, 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: I feel like we're doing things offensively, like we're starting 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: to come together, But defensively, what is going on? 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're getting run on. 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: We're getting passed on. It will we can't get off 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: the field. 104 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: On third down. 105 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 8: Defensively is the hardest to take because again it was 106 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 8: so much of the narrative, especially when we were at 107 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 8: training camp. That was because again, offensively, the biggest story 108 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 8: is that Aaron Rodgers is leading the way and we've 109 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 8: seen a lot of it, even though there are offensive 110 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 8: problems as well, and that is going to be what 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 8: we talked with Tim about is you know, that's one 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 8: element of it, is that. 113 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 7: There's fall on both sides. Your boys not. 114 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: Not playing complimentary ball. 115 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 8: No, But defensively I think is the biggest shocker because 116 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 8: we do have the personnel to have and a ton 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 8: of money and a ton of money that there should 118 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 8: be really no issue. I mean we have we have 119 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 8: shark eyes right there with TJ. Watt, you know, like 120 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 8: there's so there's. 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 7: So many just unbelievable historic players. 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, and for the historic defense that we were promised, 123 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 8: Like this just isn't what it should look like. 124 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: You know, I got to get this out now, and 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: this is a perfect place to do it. 126 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: It's right out of the gate. It's just me and 127 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: you sitting here talking. 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: Mike and Randy are off today, by the way, we 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: got Kevin Gorman filling in with sports. But this is 130 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: a feeling that I've had sort of in the back 131 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: of my head. I don't want to say it out 132 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: loud because I don't know for a it's not gospel, 133 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: it's not definitely the truth. But the Tomlin defense is 134 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: predicated on turnovers, right, Like, you got to turn the 135 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: ball over, and. 136 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: We do that very well. 137 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 9: But I feel like that is the fatal flaw in 138 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 9: the philosophy, like the philosophy of defense that Tomlin has, because. 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: Number one, when you when you talk about turning the 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: ball over and getting turnovers and creating splash, you're playing 141 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: more individual ball, like it's about the individual player getting 142 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: that turnover, right, So you have guys thinking in that 143 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: way and not in a collective And then you get 144 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: into the postseason and teams are better coached there, you know, 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: safer with the ball, they're more conservative, they don't turn 146 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: the ball over. And what happens is these defenses give 147 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: up a ton of yards, but then they get the turnover, right, 148 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: so it kind of negates all the yards that they 149 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: gave up. It might like look not the greatest, but 150 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: then there's a splash play. But if you take away 151 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: that splash, you're just getting dog walked up and down 152 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: the field all day. And against playoff teams, it clearly 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: isn't working. 154 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: It hasn't worked. 155 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: So when I see that in a game where the 156 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: Bengals are prone to turning the ball over just like 157 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: anybody else else, and we're not winning those battles and 158 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: getting those turnovers and actually they're getting a couple, I'm like, well, 159 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: we're not going to beat any good team with any 160 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: quarterback that knows what he's doing. 161 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: With this kind of defense. 162 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: They're just going to pick the soft zone apart, work 163 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: it all the way down the field and then you know, 164 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: punch it in or they get a big splash play 165 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: where there's a completely wide open broken play and they score. 166 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 8: And when you're looking for splash plays and you have, 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 8: again going back to personnel, so many names that are 168 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 8: just disappearing where you're just like. 169 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: Hey, what happens, where's he been? 170 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 8: Yeah again, we you know, we get the opportunity to 171 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 8: talk to players sometimes and when we talked with herbig 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 8: and we're like, Wow, man, this guy's ready to bust out. 173 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 8: And then the next week, you know, he has a game. 174 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 8: Be like, didn't mention him at all. Nope, didn't even. 175 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 7: Hear his name. 176 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: Where was he? 177 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 3: He wasn't on the field because the Steelers couldn't stop 178 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: the run, so they were putting in high Smith yeah, 179 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: and taking him off the field. And he's like one 180 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: of the hottest players in the league right now. I 181 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: mean he's leading the Steelers in sacks, so stuff like that. 182 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm just like, ah, you know, I don't know from 183 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: a strategy standpoint, yeah, you know, but I know that 184 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: they're going to have to figure it out and they're 185 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: going to get another chance because here comes Josh Jacobs, 186 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: yeah and the Green Bay Packers and this is the 187 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers revenge game. 188 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 7: And yeah, to me, this is more of a revenge 189 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 7: game than the Jets. 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: To me. 191 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: The thing for Rogers, I don't think he was downplaying. 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he wanted to stick it to 193 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: that coach that basically may fly across the country to 194 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: tell him to take a hike. 195 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, and we wanted to see fields. I get all 196 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 7: of that. 197 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 8: But like to me, this is the actual revenge came, 198 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 8: So of course we'll get into all of that, and 199 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 8: then with Tim Benz and Jerry Doula is going to 200 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 8: be on the show as well, Yes he is. 201 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: Thank you for letting me get that out. 202 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 7: I appreciate Listen in the safe space. Yeah, this is 203 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 7: the safe space again. 204 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 8: As Bill mentioned, Randy's off today and Mike is off, 205 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 8: so we'll chat with Kevin Gorman as well. 206 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 7: He'll be hitting us with sports at the bottom of 207 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 7: the hour. 208 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 6: News. 209 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 8: This hour is brought to you by your neighborhood Ford Store, 210 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 8: Cloudy Skies today and it's going to be a high 211 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 8: of fifty nine. I start you off with a little 212 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 8: bit of music news here. And this was a big 213 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 8: shocker yesterday. Limp Biscuit basis Sam Rivers has passed away. 214 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 8: And the shocker here is because Limp Biscuit is pretty 215 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 8: active once again and Sam Rivers just forty eight years old. 216 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 7: Oh my god, No cause of death was real. Well, 217 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 7: that's what's weird here. 218 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 8: Back in twenty twenty, Rivers had admitted that when he 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 8: left the band back in twenty fifteen, it was because 220 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 8: of liver disease which was caused by excessive drinking, and 221 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 8: he had received a liver transplant, but then he rejoined 222 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 8: the band back in twenty eighteen, so there's really not 223 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 8: a lot of information after that as to whether that 224 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 8: helped him kind of achieve a healthy lifestyle and if 225 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 8: that changed his life after that. So anything beyond that 226 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 8: is speculation. But the band announced his passing late Saturday night, 227 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 8: saying that Sam Rivers wasn't just our bass player. He 228 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 8: was pure magic. It was the pulse beneath every song. 229 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 8: It was the calm in the chaos. I don't know 230 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 8: if there was any calm in their chaos, but it 231 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 8: was the soul in the sound. And his presence is 232 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 8: unforgettable and his heart was enormous. Rivers met Fred Durst 233 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 8: while they were working at a Chick fil A at 234 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 8: a mall in Jacksonville, Florida. Oh really Yeah, and they 235 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 8: hit it off. 236 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: Wait, how long has Chick fil A been out? 237 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 6: Yes? 238 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 7: As long as Limp Biscuit. 239 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: That's crazy because I don't know why, but I just 240 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: I feel like Chick fil A is pretty. 241 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 7: New, But I have to I mean, maybe maybe we. 242 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,479 Speaker 3: Just weren't paying attention to it because it just never registered. 243 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: Like when I think of my childhood, certainly I never 244 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: register Chick fil A. 245 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 7: Same Chick fil A wasn't anything for me. 246 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 8: I mean maybe it's just like the marketing of Chick 247 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 8: fil A and the pop of using the cows and 248 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 8: everything and just being like, oh, what's up. 249 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're here now we're revamped. 250 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, you know what's crazy is Limp Biscuit went away 251 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: for a long time, and I feel like they just 252 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: resurfaced twenty twenty one or twenty twenty, like they did 253 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: a festival and Fred Durst had gray hair and he 254 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: came out and like he looked his look went viral. 255 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: Do you remember this, yes. 256 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: Where he looked like an FBI agent that was in 257 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: his sixties. 258 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 8: They have leaned into the fact that as much, you know, 259 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 8: as sonically it is not what you would say, is 260 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 8: dad rock, that that's kind of what they are now 261 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 8: because dads grew up listening to Lymphiscuit. But he's had 262 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 8: several looks on stage where yes, he's he's great, and 263 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 8: he's got a beard. And actually Sam Rivers kind of 264 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 8: looked like this too, Like Sam Rivers doesn't look or 265 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 8: didn't look that different than from Kyle Gas from Tenacious Team, 266 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 8: you know, but you know, Fred durstill gets on stage sometimes, 267 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 8: you know, grade and in overalls, you know, and really 268 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 8: does lean into Yeah. 269 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 7: No, I'm an old man now, dude, I don't care. 270 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: And so my bisket really is lamp out. 271 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 7: I need blue Choo for my biscuit. 272 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: Bluetoo Biscuit is our revamped name. 273 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 8: Limp Biscuit sponsored by Blue Choe. But to your point, 274 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 8: Limp Biscuit obviously so huge in the nineties. I think 275 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 8: once they did the revamped Woodstock and they had you know, 276 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 8: that huge wash pit. 277 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about the ninety nine Woodstock. 278 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, the bad one. 279 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the bad one that they actually incited a riot at. 280 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 7: Yeah. 281 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 8: I think that was probably the apex of people's tolerance 282 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 8: of them, because it really did highlight the let's say 283 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 8: male violence aspect of their I don't want to say 284 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 8: music because I don't I don't like kind of lumping 285 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 8: that in where you know, obviously, there's been so many 286 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 8: times in music history where it's like it's the music 287 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 8: that's making everybody like this, and it's like, well, it's 288 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 8: culture or if the. 289 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: Music is attracting a certain kind of person. 290 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the word in cell was not in our vernacular 291 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: at that point, but it was just young white males 292 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: with a lot of anger and frustration, right, and they 293 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: would come to those concerts and really act that out, 294 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: mosh and go crazy and punch each other in the face. 295 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 8: The loaners they find their thing, and they may find 296 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 8: themselves in music, they might find themselves in a chat room, 297 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 8: they might find themselves in a variety of places. But 298 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 8: there was some element of, you know, a need to 299 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 8: express that violent aspect that that band attracted in a 300 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 8: way definitely when they. 301 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 7: Found a home there. 302 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 8: But that particular moment in time and in culture I 303 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 8: think was a bit of an apex for them, and 304 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 8: so there was a little bit of a backlash of 305 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 8: being like, ugh, you. 306 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 7: Know, can we move on from this? 307 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 8: Like I've had enough monster energy drink for now, I 308 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 8: can't do this right more. 309 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: And so that time period fascinates me the end of 310 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: the nineties because it was all the Y two K stuff, 311 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: like what's gonna happen when all the computers switch over 312 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: to the two thousands and all those zeros? 313 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: Is everything going to reset? Is all our stuff gonna 314 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: be lost totally and just for us. 315 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: Like I was graduating high school going out into the world, 316 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: like there was there was so much packed into the nineties. 317 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think for what Limp Biscuit was doing, 318 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 8: that almost opened the door musically too for a little 319 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 8: bit of that like New York artsy lo fi scene. 320 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 8: That's where you got bands like The Strokes and the 321 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 8: White Stripes, eventually the Black Keys. You started getting people 322 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 8: who wanted to take it down a notch and get 323 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 8: like a little back in the garage. Yeah, and you know, 324 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 8: a little less of the you know, Corn Limp Biscuit 325 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 8: Stained kind of bands like and so again. And this 326 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 8: is how music works in cycles. That's why I'm always 327 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 8: kind of like never fully afraid, being like, oh my god, 328 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 8: music's terrible and nothing's ever gonna come out of it. 329 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 8: There's always something becau is. 330 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: Always great and always terrible. 331 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 7: It's a mushroom where are you looking decay and then 332 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 7: something grows out of it. 333 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 8: I'm always I'm always optimistic something else is coming. But 334 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 8: for Limp Biscuit here, they just kind of have had 335 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 8: this resurgence and they just had a song that came 336 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 8: out called es No it was that. 337 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: That was the song they had like four years ago 338 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: that when. 339 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: They resurfaced, because it was all about Fred Durst giving 340 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: out hardcore dad vibes. 341 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 8: I'm gonna, I'm gonna I have to search it real 342 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 8: quick because I want to get the title right because 343 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 8: it was Magan love to Morgan Wallen. What that was 344 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 8: the name of the song And it went number one? 345 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 8: Like it it exploded it like it's a decent song, 346 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 8: but it. 347 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 10: Actually was like for Olympus, like it wasn't bad and 348 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 10: it went number one in rock radio, like people lost 349 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 10: their minds over it, and it was all of a sudden. 350 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 8: It was this narrative like, oh my god, Limbiscuits back, 351 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 8: like Biscuit is. 352 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 7: So back, and all of the shows are doing great. 353 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 8: But then now you see the same thing as happening 354 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 8: with Corn like all of them. 355 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: Well, I mean everything from the nineties is back, so 356 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: why not the bands? 357 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 7: Why not them again? 358 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: And that's pretty tough probably for somebody who's got a 359 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: new liver and maybe has had some demons that they've 360 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: battled and now you're back on the road doing that 361 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: whole thing. 362 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 8: And I think you know, normally when you see somebody 363 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 8: die suddenly you know it. It usually is the simplest explanation. 364 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 8: He either would have had tremendous health challenges from having 365 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 8: a liver transplant then and you can happen and you're 366 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 8: already in a bad situation, or very much to your point, 367 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 8: you already have challenges like that, and then all of 368 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 8: a sudden you are back in that hamster wheel that 369 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 8: you never imagine to be back in later in your life, 370 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 8: and it's asking you to maybe face demons that you 371 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 8: didn't actually heal, and yeah, yeah, you're right back in there. 372 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 7: But I did I did that. 373 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 8: They met at a Chick fil A, met at a 374 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 8: Chick fil A, and then the next thing, you know, 375 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 8: you want to be in a band. 376 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: Does Chick fil A have biscuits? I feel like they do. 377 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 7: Oh it sounds delicious right now, like a breakfast biscuit. 378 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 7: Breakfast biscuit? Oh my god, wait, does Chick fil I 379 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 7: do breakfast? 380 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: Why are we whispering? 381 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't want my stomach to hear. 382 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 5: Are trying to enter in fast. 383 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: Let's just end the news sent and just tell us 384 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 4: what the weather's gonna be like. 385 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: You got it? 386 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 7: It's gonna be claudiest guys. 387 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 6: Today and. 388 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 3: It is the DV Morning Show. 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Just save us 400 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: as a priest set on the free iHeartRadio app. 401 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 7: It's Randy from the DVE Morning Show. 402 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 2: You know it's more important than ever before to connect 403 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: with people in real. 404 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: Gofford, Abby Krisner, Jacob Brett in studio, and our buddy 405 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: Kevin Gorman from the Trip is here with sports for 406 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: you now on DVE Morning. 407 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 5: KeV Morning. Well, how about the uh Alcs There will 408 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: be a game seven tonight. Mm hmm, big pitching matchup 409 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 5: on the table here with Shane Bieber facing George Kirby 410 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: tonight in Game seven in Toronto. But last night it 411 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: was a twenty two year old right hander Trey Y 412 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 5: Savage who put on a show for the Toronto Blue 413 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 5: Jays and a six to win over the Seattle Mariners. 414 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 5: The Savage started this season in low A. He was 415 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 5: a twenty twenty four first round draft pick, number twenty overall, 416 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 5: So the Pirates passed on this guy, but they took 417 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: Connor Griffin as the number one prospect in all of baseball. 418 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 5: But Trey You Savage allowed two runs on six hits 419 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 5: and three walks, had seven strikeouts in five and two 420 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 5: third innings. Wow, and here's the impressive part. Like, that's 421 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 5: a good that's a good line right here. That's a 422 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: good one one out away from a quality start for 423 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 5: a twenty two years world rookie. He didn't make his 424 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 5: debut until September fifteenth. He in three consecutive innings he 425 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: got the Mariners to ground into inning ending double plays. 426 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: He had not in his first twenty three and one 427 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 5: third innings and the Majors had not got a GIDP 428 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 5: and had only two in ninety eight innings in the minors. 429 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: So here's a guy in the most pressure packed situation 430 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: of his career gets them to do it. Not just 431 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 5: gets the Mariners to do it, he did it. Cow Rawly, 432 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 5: the and the favorite for the American League MVP Award, 433 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 5: got him to ground into a three six one, which 434 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 5: is rare because it meant you Savage had to cover 435 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 5: first base in the third inning, JP Crawford in the fourth, 436 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 5: and Julio Rodriguez in the fifth. So big win for 437 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: the Blue Jays trying to get back to the World 438 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 5: Series after winning back to back in the early nineties, 439 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: Mariners trying to get there for the first time in 440 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: franchise history. They're actually a team that has a longer 441 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: World Series drought than the Pirates. So if you can 442 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: believe that, Wow. 443 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: It's incredible to me. 444 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: keV like hearing these story worries of this kid like 445 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: coming from low a ball, Like just you know, from 446 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: the time you get drafted. I mean obviously, if you're 447 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: drafted top twenty, you're going to be in the bigs 448 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: at some point, but just that road is incredible to 449 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: traverse all five levels and maybe those guys are skipping 450 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: a level or two, a lot of it. 451 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: This guy started low A, then the high A, double A, 452 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 5: triple A into the majors. 453 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 7: Wow. 454 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 5: And in Toronto you're going from at one point I 455 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 5: think you're in like New Hampshire or somewhere, and then 456 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 5: you're going to Vancouver and then you know, somewhere before 457 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 5: that and then Buffalo, like you're bouncing all over. 458 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: Dunaden's in the mix, right because that's where Jay Casey is. 459 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, that might where that might have been where he 460 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 5: started with dun Eden. 461 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 462 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 5: So it's kind of an incredible, incredible season for Treya 463 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: Savage and you know, topping it off last night. 464 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: What allows a player like that to have that kind 465 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: of game in that moment like that he's never had before? 466 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: Like how how do you go up to the bigs 467 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 3: and have a game like you've never had before? Or 468 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: I guess just belief in yourself confidence. 469 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 5: I think it's the ability, like the mental capacity to 470 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: focus and to just lock in on Okay, this is 471 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 5: what I have to do, and not letting allowing the 472 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 5: moment to get too big, because it's you know, when 473 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: it comes down to it, they're playing baseball. This is 474 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 5: a game to play their entire lives. But I think 475 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 5: the mental capacity where guys are able to say, okay, 476 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 5: like I'm just out there pitching like I normally would pitch. 477 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and to compartmentalize the pressure. 478 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 5: Yes, And now he's doing it at home at the 479 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 5: Rogers Center, and the crowd was really behind them, and 480 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 5: and so you know that that plays a role in it, 481 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 5: but that also can add pressure. 482 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, because the home crowd. You don't want to 483 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: let the home crowd down. 484 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 5: No, And that's but just just the idea that he's 485 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 5: able to do it put on a performance like that, Yes, 486 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 5: And they took advantage. You know, Seattle had some shaky 487 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 5: defensive plays. They took advantage of playing some small ball 488 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 5: and getting a couple runs across early that way. And 489 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: then Vlad Guerrero hit a solo shot in the fifth inning, 490 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: was the sixth home run of the postseason, tying Joe 491 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 5: car and Jose Bautista for the most by the Blue Jays, 492 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 5: most by a Blue Jay individual in a single playoff run. 493 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: And so you know, we kind of foreshadowed that. We'll 494 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 5: talk a little bit later about the show. Heya tawny performance, 495 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: but he had won for the ages. The Dodgers swept 496 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 5: the Brewers, who had the best record in all of 497 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 5: baseball this season, and they're going to be waiting for 498 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 5: the winner of tonight's game. That World Series Game one 499 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 5: is Friday, but you got tonight. Well, you know, I 500 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: was all Mariners all the way. But now it looks 501 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 5: decidedly in the favor of the Blue Jays, given how 502 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 5: well Guerrero's playing. I think they said at one point 503 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 5: that he was something like nine for his last sixteen 504 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: at one point. I mean, this is a guy and 505 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 5: he's killing the ball. Yeah, and he's making great plays 506 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: on defense too, which is, you know, he's an offensive player, 507 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 5: but making some terrific plays at first base. And then 508 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 5: they have a little bit of an advantage that they 509 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: have a former Cy Young winner and Shane Bieber is 510 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 5: on the mound, and they've got a three time Sy 511 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: Young winner in the bullpen and Max Scherzer, who gave 512 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: his manager hell when he tried to come out for 513 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: him in his life starts, so you know, it's like, 514 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: I'm not coming out of the game, you go back 515 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 5: into the dugout that type of add. 516 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 4: Hasn't he been hurt all year, like he doesn't played 517 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: a time. 518 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 5: That's that's the thing is, here's a guy who has 519 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: a couple of World Series Championships under his belt. 520 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: HM. 521 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 5: So you know, here's a guy who's a gamer in 522 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 5: the postseason, and you know, Mad Max the nickname, almost 523 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 5: pitched the perfect game against the Pirates if you were 524 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 5: called out one I remember being I remember being in 525 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 5: the Mad mex and Robinson and screaming at the TV 526 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 5: when Tabada and you know, I'm in a restaurant making 527 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 5: a scene and I'm like, you got to be kidding me, 528 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: you know. 529 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 4: So I saw an interview with him once. 530 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: You know, he's got those crazy like husky eyes where 531 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: he has a brown eye and a blue eye, and 532 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: he's like, sometimes he comes out of the bullpen or 533 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: he comes out of the dugout and he's he's got 534 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 3: this demonic look on his face. And he said, when 535 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: he has that kind of look on his face, he's 536 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: pitching out of the brown eye, which was one of 537 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: the craziest sentences I've. 538 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: Ever heard anybody. Say, you don't want to be on 539 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: the wrong end of the brown. 540 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: So that there is a guarantee for former Pirates to 541 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 5: be in the World Series, and I'm sure Pirates fans 542 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: love reveling and their misery in this part of it. 543 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: But the Dodgers have two former Pirates pitchers and starter 544 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 5: Tyler Glasnow and lefty reliever Anthony Bonda. The Blue Jays 545 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: have Isaiah Kinda Falfa who was spent the majority of 546 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 5: the season with the Pirates, and the Mariners have lefty 547 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: reliever Caleb Ferguson, who also was traded at the deadline. 548 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: So there will be former Pirates in the World Series 549 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 5: one way or the other on both. 550 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: Sides, on both sides. 551 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 5: So someone for Pirates fans the root for they can't 552 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 5: root for anybody else. Just to stick to the baseball theme, 553 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 5: the Pirates have a prospect who is just killing the 554 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: ball in a way that nobody else is in baseball 555 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: right now, Ezmerlin Valdez, twenty one year old outfielder, first baseman, 556 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 5: who's their number fifteen prospect. He's trying to convince the 557 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 5: Pirates to put him on their forty man roster and 558 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 5: protect him from the Rule five draft. And that has 559 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 5: to do with how many years of service since you signed, 560 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 5: especially for international players, this is the guy they signed 561 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 5: out of the Dominican for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. 562 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: He's playing in the Arizona Fall League and has he 563 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: went three for four with a double, two homers, four 564 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 5: RBIs yesterday gives him seven homers and eight games in 565 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: the Arizona Fall LOP. So there's a little bit of 566 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 5: hope for the Pirates is that this is a guy 567 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 5: who had an incredible season and if not for Connor 568 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 5: Griffin would be in the running for their probably minor 569 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 5: league Player of the Year. But putting on a bit 570 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 5: of a show in the Arizona Fall League. So that 571 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 5: has Pirates fans, you know, getting them going right now. 572 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: Any chance that either or both of them see the 573 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: field next year. 574 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 5: There's a possibility. He finished the season in Double A, 575 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 5: only played fifty one games there, so he's probably going 576 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: to get a season at least start the season in 577 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 5: Triple A. But you know, there's given what they did 578 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 5: with Rafael Flores where they brought him up and had him, 579 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: you know, catch him play first base, there's a chance 580 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 5: that you know that Valdez could make a push to 581 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: be a platoon first baseman. With Spencer Horwitz as a 582 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: right handed bat, and maybe play a little bit the outfield. 583 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 5: But the problem there is, if you're not going to 584 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 5: earn a starting job, you're not going to play every day. 585 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 5: And if you're not playing every day, that could hurt 586 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: your development. Yeah, and so a lot of times people say, oh, 587 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 5: this guy should come up. Well, if he's not a starter, 588 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: it's it's not working for his development. Yeah, I don't 589 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: want to give them a chance to play every day 590 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 5: because you know, the guys that are the starters are 591 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: going to want to be the ones that play on a 592 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 5: daily basis. So I don't expect him to make the 593 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 5: team out of spring training, but he could be, you know, 594 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: at twenty one years old, and I think he's like 595 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 5: six to two. He's listed at one eighty one. He 596 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 5: looks thicker than that, so he might be closer to 597 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: two hundred something. But there's a power bat in the system. Thankfully, 598 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: that's good news. All right, thanks keV Abby. What are 599 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 5: we talking about? 600 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 8: At the top of the hour, We're going to talk 601 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Wall of Walk of Fame, A Wall of Fame, 602 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 8: why not walk a Fame? 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Fellow Trip teammate, the Swiss Army 621 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: Knife of Pittsburgh Sports Media, Tim Benz joins us morning. 622 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 13: Benzi, How you doing, by guys, how we join doing. 623 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: All right, I guess now that we've all had some 624 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: time to fully digest the game that tomlin manifested Thursday, 625 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: Now where are we? Because anytime I tried to nap 626 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: over the weekend, I feel like Jamar Chase caught a 627 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: couple of quick slants in my dreams. 628 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 6: It's like Freddy Krueger Nightmare and Elton Street right around. Now. 629 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's kind of the way I was too, And 630 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 13: I wrote about it today for the trip about how 631 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 13: I thought that was a sobering reality check for the 632 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 13: Steelers and where they really are, not only in terms 633 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 13: of their on field performance and things that need to 634 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 13: get better like fixing the defense, but also big picture wise. 635 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 13: You know, for as much as we wanted to talk 636 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 13: about how much better they were and how improved they 637 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 13: were from last year, I mean, there were four and 638 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 13: two with justin fields. So let's not get ahead of ourselves, 639 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 13: particularly with three good teams current playoff bracket teams on 640 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 13: the horizon. 641 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: Well, what is their biggest problem as they head towards 642 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: the game against Green Bay and into the rest of 643 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: the season. Is it scheme, is it personnel or is 644 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: it both? 645 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 13: Now I think it's both and I think the biggest 646 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 13: thing is what they have in house just has to 647 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 13: do better, and there's less and less evidence that that's 648 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 13: going to be the case throughout the whole season. As 649 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 13: this season moves along, you know, we hoped after the 650 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 13: first couple of weeks that the hangover that existed from 651 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 13: twenty twenty four and how they were performing defensively was lifting. 652 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 13: You know, we were two gatorades and a handful of 653 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 13: advilt in starting to feel like, you know, the coconut 654 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 13: water had started to work and we were rehydrating again. 655 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 13: You know that that changed because I think oddly enough, 656 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 13: after everybody was hungover in Dublin or coming back to Dublin, 657 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 13: the defense looked like it had turn a corner, and 658 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 13: I think the momentum of that carried over against the 659 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 13: team right to be beaten coming back from Europe themselves 660 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 13: in the Cleveland Browns, and they overwhelmed Dylan Gabriel. Well, 661 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 13: they were making turnovers, they were hitting. 662 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 6: Guys hard, they were getting to the quarterback, and. 663 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 13: It looked like we had talked about it looking in August, 664 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 13: and then it regressed back to what it looked like 665 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 13: in December or January of last year there was a 666 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 13: non existent team in terms of running the football on 667 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 13: the other side of the line of scrimmage. The Bengals 668 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 13: ran all over them. They didn't get to Joe Flacco 669 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 13: but twice once early once late in forty nine drop 670 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 13: backs to sack him. Just a lot started to look 671 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 13: familiar again defensively, and to me, that was very alarming 672 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 13: against a team that I think should have been beaten 673 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 13: on Thursday. 674 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 8: The regression of the defense is a big thing that 675 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 8: we talked about Friday morning, Tim and when you were 676 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 8: breaking down Thursday night football in your Trib article, which 677 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 8: huge shout out, by the way, for working Ace Frehelia 678 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 8: in there. 679 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 7: You get major bonus points for that. Well done. 680 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 6: There's a deep cut reference too. 681 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 7: I thought you went unmasked. How did you get in 682 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 7: the unmasked? I didn't even know that was in you. 683 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 7: But great job. 684 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 8: But you know, talking about the defense is obviously going 685 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 8: to be a hot button issue, but the offense is 686 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 8: not without its fault in that loss. 687 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, the offense. 688 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 13: This is ninety percent a defensive problem. There were just 689 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 13: some things about the offense that contributed that. It was 690 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 13: just annoying, Like there are annoying elements of the offense, 691 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 13: like they tried to get tricky a couple of times 692 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 13: and it didn't work. You know, from the loss specifically, 693 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 13: you look at the flea flicker that went awry. You 694 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 13: look at the fact that you know they tried that 695 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 13: screen pass it didn't work. 696 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 6: The push push didn't work. They had some costly penalties. 697 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 13: I think the bigger picture stuff on offense though it 698 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 13: was more team construct like it was great that the 699 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 13: Titands put the stamp of the game that. 700 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 6: We expected right. Friar Ruth was great. The other tight 701 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 6: ends all. 702 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 13: Scored, but still highlighted is they don't have a number 703 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 13: two wide receiver. And when you see George Pickens play 704 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 13: the way that he played in Dallas yesterday and the 705 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 13: way that he has played since Cede Lamb went out, 706 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 13: now those two are ductailing really nicely as a wide 707 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 13: receiver tandem. 708 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 6: It just underscores where. 709 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 13: They have failed to backfill again for a second year 710 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 13: in a row after a departing wide receiver, and if 711 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 13: something should happen to DK Metcalf, they're going to be 712 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 13: really screwed, especially if they go through a swath of 713 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 13: games here where they're gonna have to outscore decent competition. 714 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that they forced the ball to DK, 715 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 3: maybe in the wrong spots, but I still think we 716 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: have to get him the ball more. I understand we 717 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: don't have a second wide receiver, Tim, but you know, 718 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: quick slants work on other teams too, not just the Steelers, 719 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: and it seemed like early in the season they got 720 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 3: him the ball quick and let him do what he 721 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: does best, which is run angry over people. And it 722 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 3: seems like they've gone away from that a little bit 723 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: and are more obsessed with the deep ball down the sideline. 724 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 6: Part that is. 725 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 13: Recognition of what Rogers has seen at the line of scrimmage. 726 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 6: And you know, like in that Jets game, two. 727 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 13: Of those plays you're talking about were two of the 728 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 13: only three plays were sauce. Gardner wasn't on them, so 729 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 13: they just stepped back through the ball to. 730 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 6: Him and let him go. So that was smart. I 731 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 6: think that a couple of times they did that against Minnesota. 732 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 6: It was about Rogers reading. 733 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 13: What was that the line of scrimmage and knowing where 734 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 13: to go with the ball, and he placed it perfectly 735 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 13: because he's good at that. 736 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 6: So I don't mind so much trying to get him. 737 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 13: The ball in fifty to fifty situations because they need 738 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 13: the chunk plays. 739 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 6: It's very difficult. 740 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 13: To be right eleven, twelve, thirteen plays in a row 741 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 13: all the time, and they were getting in that habit 742 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 13: of leaning into that. It's like, you know, one criticism 743 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 13: that I pointed out is did they get away from 744 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 13: the run maybe a little too much in the second 745 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 13: half after Jalen Warren is having a really good game 746 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 13: against the Bengals. And I kind of throw that out 747 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 13: there more from discussion than I do true criticism, because 748 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 13: the inner kind of football me, he just wants to 749 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 13: see them try to hit DK and use him as 750 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 13: a weapon when they can. 751 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 6: And it can't have it both ways. You can't just. 752 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 13: Lean into the ground game all the time and ignore 753 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 13: the six foot four wide. 754 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 6: Receiver down the sideline with all those athletic gifts. 755 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 13: You got to find a balance, and largely I thought 756 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 13: the offense did that Thursday. I'm just speaking more to 757 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 13: the big picture, like I said, point that they need 758 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 13: some more help to distribute the passing game, especially when 759 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 13: you look at Dallas, who has that perfectly right now 760 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 13: with the two wide receivers, backs that can catch the 761 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 13: ball if they need them to, and a tight ender 762 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 13: score twice. 763 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 5: Tim Kevin Gorman, speaking to the tight ends, oneted to 764 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 5: ask you about what you thought of using Pat Fryarmuth 765 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 5: in the role that they did, which he kind of 766 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 5: stepped in almost as an extra wide receiver. But do 767 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 5: you think that that Friar Mooth starts to take on 768 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 5: a larger role in the offense now or do you 769 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 5: think he becomes a trade candidate And if there's trades 770 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 5: you'd like to see kind of which direction you'd like 771 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 5: to see the Steelers add category. 772 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 13: Well, the first part of that, yes, I mean, like 773 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 13: this is what we talked about. If they're not going 774 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 13: to have a second wide receiver per se, especially if 775 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 13: Austin is hurt, if he's out of it, then it's 776 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 13: got to be the collective of the tight ends has 777 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 13: to be the second wide receiver. And they were that 778 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 13: against a vulnerable Bengals defense, and Friar Muth was chief 779 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 13: among them as the big play target at tight end. 780 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 6: But he's a Bengals killer. I mean, really you can 781 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 6: associate with. 782 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 13: This Kevin and covering the pirates like him against the 783 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 13: Bengals is like pool Holes against the Pirates. So the 784 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 13: way they talked about him though, like all the time 785 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 13: you hear Thomas say, well, he's his own killer, he's 786 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 13: his zone killer, he's his own killer. Well, they got 787 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 13: to find ways to get him the ball and man 788 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 13: and man situation too. 789 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 6: They just have to if they're going to be structured 790 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 6: this way. 791 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 13: So I tend to look at the tight Ends as 792 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 13: a group that replaces the concept of another two wide receiver. 793 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that they shouldn't look for one in 794 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 6: a trade. 795 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 13: I wouldn't trade Friar Mooves for that though, because then 796 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 13: you're just swapping one problem for another. 797 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: See what they do. 798 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: They got green Bay here Sunday Night Football. That's Tim 799 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: Benz joining us like he does each and every Monday 800 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: year round. 801 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 4: Benz, thanks so much. We're gonna talk to you again 802 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 4: next week. 803 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 13: I'm sure the Green Bay versus Aaron Rodgers stuff will 804 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 13: be totally subtled, not at all overcovered or overwrought to. 805 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no background noise. All right, good stuff, Tim. 806 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again next week. 807 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: Abby. What do we got next? 808 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 8: We're gonna talk about the Pittsburgh Walk of fame, which 809 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 8: happens this morning. 810 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 4: It's the DVE Morning Show. It's time for. 811 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 14: The Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought to you by 812 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 14: First National Bank. Let's get started. Remember fdi C and 813 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 14: Steelers Pro Shop. Get it direct from the team at 814 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 14: shop dot Steelers dot com. 815 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 4: Here's Tom Opferman. 816 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 15: The Steelers fought a four and two on the season 817 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 15: thanks to the thirty three thirty one Thursday night football 818 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 15: loss of the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals. One silver 819 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 15: lining though for the team and the loss, was the 820 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 15: production of the tight ends and the Steelers' offense is 821 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 15: passing game one hundred and. 822 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 7: Forty one of quarterback Aaron Rodgers. 823 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 15: Two hundred and forty nine passing yards went to tight 824 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 15: ends against Cincy, and all four of Rogers touchdown passes 825 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 15: on the evening were to a tight end. Johnny Smith 826 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 15: and Darnell Washington both caught a touchdown a piece from 827 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 15: their quarterback, but it was Pat Fryarmuth who led the 828 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 15: way in the receiving department. He caught five balls on 829 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 15: six targets for a team leading one hundred and eleven 830 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 15: receiving yards, and he also had two touchdowns, including a 831 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 15: sixty eight yard touchdown catch that gave the Steelers the 832 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 15: lead late in the fourth quarter. Friarmuth had been struggling 833 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 15: not only to produce statistically, but just to see snaps 834 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 15: on the field in recent weeks, so this breakout performance 835 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 15: of the season was a welcome development for the team, 836 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 15: even if it didn't ultimately result. 837 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 4: In the victory. 838 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 15: It's likely wide receiver Calvin Austin the third will be 839 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 15: back for the Packers on Sunday Night Football this week. 840 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 15: But even if that's the case, hopefully the tight ends 841 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 15: and Friarmuth in particular's production and usage starts to become 842 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 15: more of a trend. I'm tom op from him with 843 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 15: the Steelers report. 844 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 7: At FNB. We rewrote the rule