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Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys about this Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: thing where he's not rooting for the Patriots in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's had multiple In fact, even today, I

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Speaker 1: think one of the patrios of the linebacker guy what

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Speaker 1: is his name? Oh yes, explain, was talking about it.

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Speaker 1: But Vince Wolfork his former teammates, Sathan Samuel that multiple

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Speaker 1: former teammates have come out because Tom Brady says, I

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Speaker 1: don't have a dog in the fight for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: A little surprised by that. Dave, Yes, Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: I am doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me either. I know

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Speaker 1: he's a minority owner of the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I get that, but I mean, maybe the only thing

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Speaker 3: I can.

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Speaker 4: Think of is I think he has a lot of

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Speaker 3: I think the things got so bad between he and.

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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick before he left that maybe there's I mean,

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Speaker 4: maybe there's enough bitterness there that he's just saying.

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Speaker 3: But I I would have.

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Speaker 4: Thought he'd have said yeah, I mean, listen, I spent

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Speaker 4: however many years there, I'm pulling.

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling for the Pats. Yeah. To me, I think

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Speaker 3: he could have said that better than what he did.

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Speaker 5: But you got a factor in he is part owner

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Speaker 5: of another football team in the National Football League and

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Speaker 5: a broadcaster and a big one, so he I think

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Speaker 5: he's trying to stay in neutral ground there and said

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Speaker 5: that in a way where maybe he could have he

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Speaker 5: could have said that better.

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Speaker 3: He's got a statue at a Jellette stadium, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but either could be some Belichick. It's there for him

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Speaker 5: I'm guessing he's not a huge fan of Belichick, and

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Speaker 5: maybe he's still a little bitter about how that ended.

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Speaker 5: Belichick gets rid of him, he goes and wins the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl with Tampa Bay. But I just think he

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Speaker 5: could have answered it in a different kind of way.

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Speaker 5: But that was that was kind of like what you

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Speaker 5: would hear from a politician, Yeah, like a senator, but

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Speaker 2: This is some politics, no boards.

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Speaker 1: And he was there for two decades, part of a dynasty,

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Speaker 2: I mean like it was one of those deals. And

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Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: Rick.

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Speaker 1: He's a broadcaster, as Day pointed out, my minority owner

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Speaker 1: there with the Raiders, So maybe he thinks he has

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Speaker 1: to be this. But there's nobody that has that expectation,

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Speaker 1: you know. Peyton Manning, if the Colts were in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the Broncos were in the Super Bowl, he'd

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Speaker 1: absolutely be saying that's my team. I'm pulling for him,

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Speaker 1: right and nobody would be like, hey, you need.

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Speaker 3: To be that.

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Speaker 4: The Broncos played the Colts in the AFC Championship Game

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Speaker 4: and Peyton Manning were asked, what would he say, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't have a dog in the fight.

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Speaker 4: I think, knowing Peyton a little bit, I think he'd

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Speaker 4: and because of how things ended for him in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean he doesn't cherish all the memories there

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Speaker 3: They basically they basically.

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Speaker 4: Said you can't play anymore and we're done with you.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's something to that I asked Grant the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing, and I I feel like he would

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Speaker 1: They're both coming outs. Vince Wolfork said that's bull crap.

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Speaker 1: He's like, all that political. This ain't political. It ain't political.

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Speaker 1: What it is, what it is, Raiders ain't in it.

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Speaker 1: Say what it is.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: If you're a patriot for life, you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Don't give me that political bull crap. And he kept

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Speaker 2: This just doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, I just thought it was sort of interesting

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Speaker 2: Before we get.

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Speaker 3: Did you factor in their new head coach?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the teammates with him, well, Clint Kubiak.

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Speaker 5: So maybe there was a little bit of that there too.

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Speaker 5: You want to root against your new head coach.

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Speaker 2: What is his teammates?

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Speaker 6: So, I mean I think that's another factor though to consider.

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Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know. Well, we'll uh before we get

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Speaker 6: out of here. I did want to ask you, like

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Speaker 4: Felt pretty good. IM worked on today. I had a

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Speaker 4: little vertigo earlier this week. It actually has subsided to

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Speaker 4: the point that you're not rocking back and forth as

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Speaker 3: I can so, No, I don't want you to do that. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good. Is that what you mean? No?

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Speaker 1: But I should be more specific. Okay, my question how

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Speaker 3: Which you lean? Oh? The game Sunday, the Super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Seattle, but I gotta tell you, I mean, if I

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Speaker 3: But if you said, hey, would you.

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Speaker 4: Be shocked if the Patriots found a way to be

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, I'm gonna watch.

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Speaker 4: Every like I said, every single play of it, but

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Speaker 4: I've got to be honest about it. This is Maybe

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just a bitter play by play guy, but

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Speaker 3: It's like, eh, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I say that I'm gonna watch every single minute of

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm not real geared up about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I told Mandy this too before the show when I

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch it. I do feel still some bitterness

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Speaker 5: about how it went with the Patriots Patriots winning that

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Speaker 3: With the Broncos.

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Speaker 5: So I'm actually going to root for Seattle, and if

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Speaker 5: I bet the game, I would bet Seattle as well.

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Speaker 2: Four and a half.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't that impressed with Drake May in the postseason,

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Speaker 5: and this is going to be obviously a much bigger

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Speaker 3: The headlights at times in that game.

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Speaker 5: So unless he's going to step up and play much

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously it was a big era for him, but

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Speaker 1: Here though, a big number eighteen statue right out in

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Speaker 1: I love I love going to the Combine, not only

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Speaker 1: Anderson super Bowl fifty champion, Well, maybe ask him if

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, what do you wind direction? He would ultimately

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 7: Fellas I'm doing? Good man? Doing real good.

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Speaker 3: What's up, CJ.

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Speaker 4: We're sitting here talking about this game coming up. You

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Speaker 4: When you think about after getting out to Santa Clara

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Speaker 7: Oh, I think the preparation and trying to keep your

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Speaker 7: So something that I learned after Super Bowl fifty. Right, AFC,

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Speaker 7: And my day was done around four different than our

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Speaker 7: So they're keeping their morning routine and the finish the day.

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Speaker 2: So you guys appreciate CJ.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: I spent all the time on there, Joe Flacco on

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Speaker 1: Kevin Clark's podcast talking about quarterbacks roughing the passer. So

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Speaker 1: some of this I agree with. I think you guys

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Speaker 1: would agree with. There's a couple of kind of cringe

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Speaker 1: moments in here. I want to see if you agree

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Speaker 1: with it. Here's what he had to say about quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and how he doesn't really like the rules protecting them

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Speaker 1: as much as they are now.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody coming into the league these days

452
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Speaker 8: is quite as battle tested as guys that came into

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Speaker 8: the league fifteen years ago. I think you can kind

454
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Speaker 8: of if you're a good high school recruit, you can

455
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Speaker 8: kind of ride your way through college and they're going

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Speaker 8: to pick you because you have potential. I think there

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Speaker 8: was less of that fifteen years ago. I think our

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Speaker 8: generation does benefit from you with a little bit of

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Speaker 8: tougher times, just like the generation twenty years before me

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Speaker 8: benefited over us.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: And you're right, I was kind of I kind of

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Speaker 8: came in as it was transitioning. So I still have

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Speaker 8: that mindset, like I don't think it should be ropping

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Speaker 8: the passer when they land on us. I don't think

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Speaker 8: being slapped in the head should be ropping the passer.

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Speaker 8: It honestly annoys me because it affects games in a

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Speaker 8: negative way at random times. Ye and they can call

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Speaker 8: it or not call it. It needs to get out

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Speaker 8: of the game. They need to go back to it.

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Speaker 8: I know CTE is a thing these days and all that,

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Speaker 8: but it's football. We signed up to play it. And

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Speaker 8: I do think that the guys in my generation probably

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Speaker 8: benefit a little bit from having that mindset, because the

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Speaker 8: guys that are coming into the league nowadays, they look

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Speaker 8: at me like, you're I'm crazy, Like what do you

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Speaker 8: mean you want receivers to get laid out over the

478
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Speaker 8: middle and you want guys to be able to land

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Speaker 8: on you. I'm like, yeah, guys, that's football like that.

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Speaker 8: There's certain things that shouldn't be penalties, and I don't

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Speaker 8: think they see the side of it where it really does.

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Speaker 8: These fifteen yard penalties and big situations that really shouldn't

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Speaker 8: be penalties.

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Speaker 2: In the game of football.

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Speaker 8: They're just affect They changed these games, and as a fan,

486
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Speaker 8: like I just don't like it. I wanted to be

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Speaker 8: up to us and getting slapped in the face should

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Speaker 8: not change the game.

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Speaker 2: It really shouldn't.

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Speaker 8: And then on top of that, you can't play guys

491
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Speaker 8: can't even play defense as aggressively because they're getting fine

492
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Speaker 8: so much money. We're just normal hits. It's it's changed

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Speaker 8: the game a lot, and I don't think we're going back.

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Speaker 8: So I'm just kind of ranting here. Please ran It's

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Speaker 8: just like I don't like it. I listen, we signed

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Speaker 8: up to get concussions. We signed up to get hurt.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is.

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Speaker 8: You you might not like that, but that's what we

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Speaker 8: kind of did when we decided to play this game.

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Speaker 3: What what you said? A couple of cringe worthy moments

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Speaker 3: for you? What were they?

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Speaker 1: The CTE and the concussion stuff? Like, we signed up

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Speaker 1: for concussions, we signed up for ct He just told

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Speaker 1: the truth. But we we lived in different Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: did you sign up? Did you know you were signing

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Speaker 1: up to get ct I mean you don't I would say.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I would. I don't think I

508
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Speaker 4: took from his comments. Maybe we should listen again. He

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Speaker 4: said we signed up for concussions. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: he said you we signed up for CTE. He brought

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Speaker 4: up CTE, but I don't know that he said we

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Speaker 4: signed up for it. Yeah, I think guys, I mean,

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Speaker 4: we didn't even know what CTE was back back when

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Speaker 4: I played. But I mean, you knew the game was

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Speaker 4: really really physical. I don't know that we knew as

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Speaker 4: twenty one year old kids coming into the game, that

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Speaker 4: these are the possibilities in terms of long term damage.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I ever one time thought about it,

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Speaker 4: nor had a doctor, you know, sit down and talk

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Speaker 4: to me about it. But now I honestly I think

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Speaker 4: he told the truth there, I really do, and he's right.

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Speaker 4: They're never going back. And I say, that's that's fine,

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Speaker 4: because you're trying to you're trying to keep guys as

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Speaker 4: healthy as we can. It's an impossible task in a

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Speaker 4: game like professional football to try to legislate, you know,

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Speaker 4: all of the violent hits out. But the league has

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Speaker 4: done I think, as good a job as they possibly can.

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Speaker 3: In that regard.

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Speaker 5: That might be the most I've heard Joe Flacco talk

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Speaker 5: the entire season. He was here with the Broncos, and

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Speaker 5: he was engaged, which he didn't seem to be that

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Speaker 5: one year he spent here. One thing that he said

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Speaker 5: that stood out to me, though, that made me think

535
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Speaker 5: about the fifty yard penalty. These PI penalties can do

536
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Speaker 5: so much damage and literally change the game. You think

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Speaker 5: there'd be any thought about going to the college football

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Speaker 5: PI penalty instead.

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Speaker 3: Of where teams can just a spot foul.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, a spot foul because teams in the NFL

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Speaker 5: now they'll start picking on a guy no One, they've

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Speaker 5: got a decent chance of getting a PI and for

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Speaker 5: a big penalty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd argue that's a bigger swing than as he said,

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Speaker 1: hands to the face and a quarterback or landing on

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Speaker 1: a court.

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Speaker 2: I mean those listen.

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Speaker 1: I think the points that he made there are interesting

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Speaker 1: enough for football fans that have been around the game,

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Speaker 1: have been watching the game as long as well, we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of us have. There's this sense of like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well you're playing quarterback. That doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 1: not still playing football. And I like what he's saying there.

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Speaker 1: But also at the same time, if you were going

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Speaker 1: to bet one way or the other, as are they

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Speaker 1: going to continue to add more protections for quarterback or fewer,

557
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Speaker 1: They're going to continue to add more.

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Speaker 2: There's just more money in the game.

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Speaker 1: There's more money in that position, and it impacts too

560
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Speaker 1: many things to have a quarterback go down for any

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Speaker 1: given team. I mean, they even made the role about

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Speaker 1: diving at the legs of a quarterback because Tom Brady

563
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Speaker 1: got knocked out in the first game of a season.

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Speaker 1: The Patriot's still good that year, but losing Tom Brady

565
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Speaker 1: for the season isn't good for the brand. So isn't

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Speaker 1: that remarkable to think about that? Matt Castle, he.

567
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Speaker 3: Got a big contract off that year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Broncos, Well, Josh mc daniels wanted him here, didn't

569
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Speaker 1: didn't quite work out that way.

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Speaker 2: Still shipped out Jake Heller Gosh anyways.

571
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Speaker 1: But but the part of it is is I see

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Speaker 1: where his mindset is, and I think you still can

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Speaker 1: play the game to a certain level like that, But

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Speaker 1: it's not going ever back to that, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we can't imagine that.

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Speaker 4: The NFL no changing course. No, And again I've I've

577
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Speaker 4: applauded the league for trying to legislate some of the

578
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Speaker 4: nonsense out of the league that we saw in the

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Speaker 4: early part I mean fifties, sixties, probably even before seventies eighties,

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Speaker 4: and I think they've done as good a job as

581
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Speaker 4: they possibly can. And we're talking about the NFL, right,

582
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Speaker 4: we're talking about when I say players sign up for

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Speaker 3: They you know what