1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, Michael. I was introduced to Roy by some 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: dear friends in Louisville, Kentucky, and we had never been 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: in such stitches listening to those recordings. So thank you 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: for what you do. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Have a great day. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: Well, you're quite welcome. I'm glad that Roy d Mercer 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: was so warmly welcomed by the KOA snooty audience. Dragon, 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: we got work to do this segment. Uh oh we uh. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: We got to give away a pair of tickets to 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: the Rocky Spillies Sunday game, hoping weekend the Curz Field. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 4: All right, so what do you want to do this time? 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 5: We'll do the similar kind of giveaway with you the 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 5: text line, So we'll do Texter number five. All right, 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 5: at three three one oh three, text micro Michael first, 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 5: and then your first last name, and then your email 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 5: address and the answer to the trivia question. 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: Will do it? 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 5: Time delayed so well of ourselves. Give the streaming audience 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 5: a chance to listen. Let's go eleven, ten and eighteen seconds, 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 5: and the trivia question will be We've received some mail recently, 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 5: a couple of different packages. You tell us what those 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 5: packages were. 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: There was any one of the packages correct? 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 5: And we're not talking about the postcards, because that's pretty 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 5: stinking easy. We're talking in an actual package that we 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 5: talked about on air. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: Yes, some that frightened Michael, some that frightened me. Souse 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: them exactly. 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 5: So three to three one oh three, text Mike or 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: Michael be text number five at eleven ten and eighteen 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: seconds with your first and last name, your email address, 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 5: and what packages that we here have received recently. 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: Okay, Now I want to clarify something, just because Bi 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: is a lawyer and some of you may because of 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: the technicalities that Dragon just spelled out, the timing and 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: everything else. I want to make sure you understand that 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: it is not three three one oh three. It is 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: three three one zero three gets. If you type in 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 3: three three one oh three, it's not going to come through. 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: It's a short message service. So they're all numbers. They're 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: not a combination of numbers in letters. It's three three 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 3: one zero three keyword micro Michael. 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 5: Right, similar to what you dial any three oh three 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 5: number or seven two oh number. 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah when people Yes, when people mistakenly say my number 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: is three oh three. 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, because they always dial the letter oh when they're 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: typing in three oh three. Yeah, sure, sure, Michael, Okay, you. 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: Want to argue about this the rest of the segment. 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: Do you do you want you want to get this going? 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: You want to get it going? Lazy ass language three 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: three one o three It does fall off the tongue nicer, 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: but it's just so improper. 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: It's incorrect. 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: Three three one oh three, Yeah, three three one zero three, 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: get an extra syllable. People are so steinking lazy. By 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: the way, speaking of stinking lazy, you know what did 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: you hear the Top of the Hour News? And because 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: I gotta time this whole thing out with this segment anyway, 61 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: Top of the Hour News, I'm listening, and I forget 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: whether it was on national or local, but apparently tonight sometime, 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: is it tonight, Dragon, we're gonna launch a rocket and 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: we're gonna fly some astronauts around the moon. 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: Sure, it's so. 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: I've never been one to buy into the conspiracy that 67 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: we didn't really land on the moon. It was all, 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: you know, filmed somewhere in area fifty one. But considering 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: the technology. What was the name of that movie? There 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: was a movie about the black women that ran the 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: computer systems that Kevin Costner was the star of the movie. 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: And they and they ran this the computer systems and 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: did all the calculations for the trajectory and the you know, 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: the power up, power down, everything to land in nineteen 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: sixty nine on the moon. Hidden that was nineteen h 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: hidden what hidden figures, hidden figures. It's a great movie. 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: Now fast forward from nineteen sixty nine. I'm carrying more 78 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: computing power right here on my iPhone than what those 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: poor women had in nineteen sixty nine. And all we're 80 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: going to do is fly around the moon and go, 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: how loly you look at us, Look how great we are? 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: What is wrong with this country? And you had a 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: great guy he to admit this. You had a great explanation, 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: part from yourself, part from your dad. 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 5: Well, you were kind of curious as to the book, 86 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 5: maybe possibly believing that maybe there was a chance that 87 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 5: we didn't do it in nineteen six. 88 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: It just makes me question, right, I don't have the 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: tenfoil head on. It's just like, with the advancements in technology, 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: you'd think landing today would be easier than was nineteen 91 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: sixty nine. 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 5: For sure, But I tend to believe my father and 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: his interpretation of all of this data because he is 94 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 5: a quite literally rocket scientist, literally designed experiments for Skylab 95 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 5: when it first went up while he was in high school. 96 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 5: So I tend to believe him here when he says 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 5: just the simple phrase that if we didn't, the Russians 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 5: would have done everything to prove that we didn't. 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: Which I think that completely destroys the whole fake moon 100 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: landing argument. But I thought your argument, which I had 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: to refine, of course I had to refine it for you, 102 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: But I thought your other argument was really spot on, 103 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: and it speaks to almost not everything, but a lot 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: of things that we talk about on this program. 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 5: Well, we're no longer cowboys right now. We're far too 106 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 5: concerned about rules and regulations. And yes, I'm sure their 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: goal was to bring people home alive back in the sixties. 108 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: But even more so today. 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 5: I believe that some of those astronauts and some of 110 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: those people going up in the sixties, we're willing to 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 5: die to get there. Can I say as much for 112 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: the people here and now? 113 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: No, because now the whole world's a bunch of wooses. 114 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: We want zero risk and everything we don't want to 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you mean and to your point. Oh, 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: we got to keep their heart rate at sixty meats 117 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: per minted all the way up, you know, no matter 118 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: how many g's or while they're trying to land the 119 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: moot or landing you know, land or on the moon. Oh, 120 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: we got to keep that bolt prussure, right, got to 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: keep this right? 122 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: Can take it? Can? I'll take any risks? 123 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: Did We really had become a bunch of woses and 124 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: so therefore we're just going to spin around the moon 125 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: and call it a victory. Wow, how pathetic. The filibuster continues. 126 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 6: Next Michael, with regard to saying oh versus zero zero 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 6: versus oh. 128 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 4: Numerically speaking, have. 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 6: You ever heard anyone say nineteen zero eight instead of 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 6: nineteen oh eight? 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: Oh? I am, but it's AI. 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 6: See stupid AI voices no existing human because they ever 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 6: said nineteen zero eight that I'm aware of. 134 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the age in which we left, and I. 135 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: Have to confess I don't say nineteen zero eight, I 136 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: say nineteen oh eight. 137 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: Ah yeah, ah, that make you happy? 138 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: Yep, also makes me happy to inform of yeah that 139 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 5: John John has won the Rockies tickets for Sunday's game. 140 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 5: He gave the correct answer of goobers. Yes, goobers was 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 5: delivered just the other day. I also would have accepted 142 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 5: the cockroaches that we applastic from. 143 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: Goobers or cockroaches congratula. The cockroaches keep reappearing. I've tried 144 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: to spread them around, they keep coming back. 145 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: To my desk. Well they know where to put them. 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: Of course, I've got a cockroach in here now trying 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: to set stuff up. So see what I got to like? 148 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: A live cockroach in here now, So turn on that microphone, 149 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: tell me, tell tell the audience what you told me 150 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: about what's going on with X. He's got to use 151 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: the other one. Oh yeah, you gotta use the other 152 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: one over here. Come on, come on, Rodriguez, come on, 153 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 3: he rod get your act together. This is this is actually, 154 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: this is a serious public service announcement. I've not heard 155 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: this until he came in during the break. 156 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: That's fine. It's not like I'm doing anything. That's right. Well, 157 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: you're not doing anything. 158 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: So right now, it seems like only media members from 159 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: what I've seen, are being targeted specifically on X right now, 160 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: being hacked and worse even hijacked, having their accounts hacked. 161 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 2: I know it sucks for him on X exclusively. So 162 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: for any reason, if anyone non media sees it. Unfortunately, 163 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: our very own Rick Lewis has fallen victim to this 164 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: where media members are getting this message in their DM saying, hey, 165 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: can you vote for me to put me in this 166 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: podcast running competition whatever? It looks legit And a lot 167 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: of media members, big timers, I mean Greg gott fell 168 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: on Fox four million followers, his account's been hijacked. You 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: just said Ken Christensen has been hijacked, Lewis, And once 170 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: that happens, your account is gone, like the account could 171 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: be taken down, but you're not getting it back. 172 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: And so a lot of people are falling for it. 173 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: If for whatever reason any listeners see it, do not 174 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: fall for it, because the second you click that thing, 175 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: apparently it's hijacking the account. The hackers are going in 176 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: changing your name and email aka the recovery options, and 177 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: you cannot get it. So a lot of people are 178 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: falling victim to that, including a lot of people here 179 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: in the Denver. 180 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: So if you told me that I opened my ex 181 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: account because I never look at my dms because I 182 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: hate dms, Yeah, I looked at them and there were 183 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: three in there one from Kim Christensen, one from a 184 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: guy in the United Kingdom that I know, and there 185 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: was a third I forget what it was, and they 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: were all the same thing. You vote for me, I'm 187 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: in the running to be something on spot podcast on Spotify. 188 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: I had three myself. One of them was from Rick 189 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: Lewis and so like he was super nurse to go 190 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: and it hit the LEADU because I don't want to 191 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: acidentally click the lead because any account's gone. But it's 192 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: weird that it seems like as of now mostly media 193 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: are being targeted across the country, but quite a few 194 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: here in Denver, but but media in general across the 195 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: whole US right now. Super scary stuff because who knows 196 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: if those accounts because right now they're they're they're they're 197 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: sending those dms once their account are going to hijacked. 198 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: They're sending those same dms to other people's spreading like 199 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: like wildfire. So then so then they would get one 200 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: from me, correct. But they're also like posting a lot 201 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: of crypto posts like I got this house in this 202 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: because I did crypto with would. 203 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: What those people want you to get? 204 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: Act like those people can, So they're seeing this invest Oh, 205 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: Greg Gottfield, Rick lewis endorsing this crypto must be Legit. 206 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: Also this DM I got from the Must be Legit 207 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: Boom account gone. But again, it's only targeting media right now, 208 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: so take that for what it's worth. And you know, 209 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: gut Fields a pretty big one. But if they get 210 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: hold of the wrong media members specifically and they post 211 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: something that really bomb dropped in x y Z country 212 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: right now in the middle least, I mean, it's it's 213 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: scary stuff that media specifically are being targeted. 214 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: Is there any any reporting on any groups they've been, 215 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: anybody just behind this now? 216 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: The only one that would make sense is that all 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: these accounts are posting the very same like crypto person. 218 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: They're all clearly promoting this one individual. 219 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: So either it's a hacking group I was hired by 220 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: that individual, or it's this crypto person that is doing 221 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: the hacking. But I can't see anything credible as to 222 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: how it's happening. But it's nationwide right now, which is crazy. 223 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people, I mean multiple, I know a 224 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: couple of Denver podcasters that I know. Rick lewis obviously 225 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: our very own colored guy here at KOA A lot 226 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: of people I know are are getting hijacked and having 227 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: their accounts. I mean, you don't get it back. I 228 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: was telling you, like, you can report the accounts, say hey, 229 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: this is no longer me I know how long are 230 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: have access. I can't even do the recovery options. Just 231 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: take it down. And that's what some people are and 232 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: that's what Rick and others are going to have to do. Like, 233 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: you don't get the account back, got felt when you're 234 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: at that high of a level, maybe they can a 235 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 2: push to maybe try to get it back with that 236 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: kind of following. 237 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, all the respect of the guy and maybe you know, some. 238 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: Six degree of separation from musk and you could get 239 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: it back. 240 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: But well, that's the thing a lot of people are 241 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: already saying, like elon, what the hell like Apparently there 242 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: were some significant layoffs at X things that can protect 243 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: against stuff like this, and it's just fallen by the wayside. 244 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of upset people that are you know, 245 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: now paying preeium subscriptions eight dollars a month, forty month 246 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: right for these premiums. Yeah, and they're just not being 247 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: protected anymore. 248 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: So I would just tell everybody listening, right, now, I 249 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: don't look at my dms. I have the DM so 250 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: but thankfully I went in deleted them. But you're right, 251 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: I was nervous even deleting the DM the direct message 252 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: for fear that I'm hitting the wrong Yeah. 253 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: But well, and honestly, ever since Elon bought it too's 254 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: always be careful about what you see from certain people 255 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: on X because it's hard to verify. But even more 256 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: so right now, right now, until this gets figured out, 257 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: everything you see, verify it multiple times. 258 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: Nothing about this entire conversation. You actually brought something productive. 259 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 4: Look at me to the jack. No, this guy is 260 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: not a fair break. 261 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 7: I heard yesterday was Dog Day and we hadn't checked 262 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 7: in in a while, and we just assumed since yesterday 263 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 7: was Dog David, today would be Cat Day, so rest 264 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 7: assured we'll be tuning in for Cat day to day. 265 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 3: Well, boy, I hate to break the news to you, 266 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: but it ain't ever gonna be Cat day on this program. 267 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: It just ain't. 268 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: So we were talking before we got so rudely interrupted 269 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: with giving away tickets and a rodd spelling his guts 270 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: about how he fell prey to a fishing scam. We 271 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: were talking about the filibuster, and I had given you 272 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: my argument for Republicans need to nuke the Philipbuster now, 273 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: because the Democrats absolutely will do it if and when 274 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: they take control of the Senate. Whether that's in the 275 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: midterm elections or that's in the twenty twenty eight cycle, 276 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: doesn't make any difference. They will nuke it. But for 277 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: six weeks, Democrats blocked every single attempt to fund Eisenborn Patrol, 278 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: and the Republicans kept saying, oh, no, you can't. 279 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: Do that selectively. You can't just pick winners and losers. 280 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: You got to fund all of homeland security or else 281 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,359 Speaker 3: you're playing politics with national security. Remember that they accused 282 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: the Democrats of playing politics with national security. The Republicans did, 283 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: and then John Thun, the Senate majority leader, a Republican, 284 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: passed a bill at two o'clock in the morning that 285 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: did exactly what the Democrats had been demanding. It funded 286 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: everything in homeland security except ice and border patrol. So 287 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: for six weeks, Republicans blocked every attempt by the Democrats 288 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: to pass piecemeal funding and needed it through a mechanism 289 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: called unanimous consent. You make sure that there is either 290 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: nobody on the Senate floor or the ones that are 291 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: on the floor are in on the game. Because unanimous 292 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: consent means with the presiding officer will say something like this, 293 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: without objection, the bill is moved to, you know, move 294 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: to the floor for a vote. 295 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: That's not the precise rules of Robert Robert's rules of order, but. 296 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Something like that without objection, meaning that if one person 297 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: just says I object, mister President, meaning the President of 298 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: the Senate, then it doesn't go anywhere. So you have 299 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: to make certain that there's either nobody on the floor 300 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: or everybody that's on the floor is in on the fix. 301 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: So for six weeks, Republicans blocked everything the Democrats tried 302 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: to pass by using unanimous consent. Then Democrats tried it 303 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: multiple times. Every time Republicans objected, so everybody kept objecting 304 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: using the unanimous consent as a block. Then then again 305 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: emphasizing he's a Republican, used that exact same piecemeal unanimous 306 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: consent procedure to pass a bill that he knew the 307 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: Democrats would not object to. 308 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,359 Speaker 4: Why because soon knew. 309 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: That he kept everybody off the floor or that anybody 310 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: was there was in on the fix, and he gave 311 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: them exactly them, the Democrats exactly what they wanted, and 312 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: now well now, the belief among Senate Republican leadership is 313 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: that it does not make any sense to pursue any 314 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: path other than some sort of bipartisan bill to fund 315 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: DHS minus ICE and CBP. That's the Senate bill, even 316 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: though the Senate has already left for recess and soon 317 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: is not going to call everybody back. Oh, they need 318 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: a two week vacation for Easter. In other words, let 319 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: me just put it in cowboy English for you. The 320 00:16:54,760 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: Republican Senate majority leader's current position is the only acceptable 321 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: solution is the one that does not fund the border 322 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 3: enforcement agencies that his only Republican party spent the last 323 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: two years telling voters were the most important thing in 324 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: the entire world. That's John Thune's position and Schumer's position. 325 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: The only acceptable solution in the Senate is the one 326 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: that leads ICE unfunded while simultaneously declaring dead on arrival. 327 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: The House bill that Speaker Johnson did get passed along 328 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: with some Democrats that would fund ICE, which is the 329 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: outcome his own members had been filibustering for seven straight votes. 330 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: So both Republicans and the Democrats. They're holding the same hostage. 331 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: They just swapped the ransom notes. Here's the bottom line, 332 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: and I want you to take this at the dinner table, church, 333 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: your golf fors them wherever. Small people are talking about 334 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: what's happening in Washington because they don't understand this. This 335 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: was not a negotiation, and it certainly was not a breakthrough. 336 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: It wasn't even governance. This was two men, the majority leader, 337 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: the minority leader, the Republican and the Democrat on opposite 338 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: sides of the aisle, engineering a sequence of events that 339 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: would allow each of them to go home for Easter 340 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: for two weeks, look their base in the eye and say, 341 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: without blinking, we won. Nobody won. The DHS shut down 342 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: forty plus days. I think it was forty two days 343 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: as of Friday, and now, as one Outleok put it, 344 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: it's now destined for the record books. In fact, it's 345 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: already passed. It's in the record books. 346 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 6: Now. 347 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: So where are we? 348 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: Where are we right now? 349 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Well? 350 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: TSA agents are working, Some are getting paid by executive order, 351 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 3: not by law, which raises its own constitutional questions that 352 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: maybe I'll address another day. Ice and border patrol are 353 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: still in Limbo and the two most powerful men in 354 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: the United States Senate are currently on recess, and they're probably, 355 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 3: you know, in a little secret phone call. They got 356 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: Burner phones, and they're congratulating themselves on their tactical genius, 357 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: the unanimous consent maneuver, the hotline meaning that they got 358 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 3: everybody is if it is going to eject, tell us 359 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 3: now you do the voice vote at two o'clock in 360 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: the morning. You got the debt on arrival, declarations flying 361 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: in both directions like some sort of Badminton shuttlecocks. None 362 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: of it was none of this, None of them was 363 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: ever about funding the Department of homemand Security. All of 364 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: this was about covering their political flank before they go 365 00:19:59,480 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: fee East. 366 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: Egg Hunt. 367 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: Soon punked, literally punked the Republican faithful into believing the 368 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: process was the only available path. Oh, this is the 369 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: only way I can do this. 370 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: Schumer. 371 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: Likewise, he punked the Democrat base into believing that a 372 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 3: bill that gave them nothing on ICE reforms was somehow 373 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: a victory for them. And then you and I the 374 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: people that you really give a ratsass about the ones 375 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: that are standing in the airport on security lines trying 376 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: to get home for Easter or go to spring break, whatever. 377 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 3: The ones that have to wait in line because they 378 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 3: can't get way through because they're not a member of Congress. 379 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: The ones employed by DHS, and at least we're wondering 380 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: at one time whether their mortgage checked with clear or not. 381 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: They got a two week recess, and they got a 382 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: cable news chiron that said Senate reaches agreement, some agreement, 383 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: some breakthrough. You know what it really is in the 384 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: language of my old boss, heck of a job. 385 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: Heck of a job. Yeah, that's exactly what they got. 386 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: So I want to walk through. I got a. 387 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: Email from Tiffany wherever Tiffany is. I don't know where 388 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: Tiffany is. She sent me a question this week, and 389 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: I want to spend a little time on because on 390 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: the surface sounds like a frustrated citizen venting, but underneath 391 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: that there's actually a sophisticated legal question, and I love it. 392 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: Tiffany wants to know, in a hypothetical universe, whether you 393 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: and I could sue Congress for fraud. Well, the short 394 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: answer is no. But why the answer is no is 395 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: actually more interesting than the question itself. Tiffany, in her 396 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: email pointed to the Federal Tort Claims Act. That's the 397 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: vehicle she wanted to use to sue Congress. Now, she's 398 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: not wrong. The Federal Tortue Claims Act allows an individual 399 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 3: to sue the federal government for harm because federal employees 400 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: there's something wrong. That's real, that's a thing. But here's 401 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: where that argument runs into a wall. Actually, it runs 402 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: into several walls. They're all stacked on top of each other. First, 403 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: you have the Speech and Debate Clause. Article one, Section 404 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 3: six of the Constitution gives members of Congress absolute immunity, 405 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: and I do mean absolute, not the whimpy kind of 406 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: qualified immunity that we argue with about the cops, for 407 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: anything they do in their legislative capacity, votes, speeches, bills, resolutions. 408 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: Absolute immunity from lawsuits. The founders put that in there 409 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: so the president could not intimidate Congress by threatening them 410 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: with lawsuits. It's a separation of powers protection. It's very 411 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: noble in theory, it's maddening in practice when you feel 412 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: like you've been lied to for what forty fifty one 413 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: hundred years. Now, that's the first wall. But here's wall 414 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: number two. Hebo I told you about Charles Pain talking 415 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: about how members of Congress ought to start. 416 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: Eating their own cooking. 417 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: The Federal Torte Claims Act is an executive branch statute. 418 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: It covers bad acts by executive branch employees, you know, 419 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: the agencies and the departments, the bureaucracy, the deep state, 420 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: if you want to call it that. Congress is a 421 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: separate branch of government. They have their own rules, their 422 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: own budget, their own legal framework. You cannot apply the 423 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: Federal Tortue Claims Act, which is an executive branch remedy 424 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 3: to a legislative branch problem. It's like trying to use 425 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: a phishing license to drive a car, or vice versa. 426 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: That's the second I would just sum it up this way. 427 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: The Federal Torte Claims Act does not apply to Congress, 428 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: and they set it up that way because they don't 429 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: want to get sued for doing something that is tortious, 430 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: that is wrong or fraudulent. Then there's the third wall. 431 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: The Federal Torque Claims Act specifically excludes fraud, so even 432 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: if Congress was covered, which it's not, the Federal Tourt 433 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: Claims Act explicitly carves out intentional torts like misrepresentation or deceit. 434 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: So the one thing that Tiffany wants to sue for 435 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: is the one thing that the statue doesn't cover. Welcome 436 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: to federal law. Welcome to what Charles Pain referred to 437 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: this morning as Congress doesn't want to eat its own cooking. Oh, 438 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: we went through the rules to apply to somebody else, 439 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: not to us. And then there's a fourth wall. We 440 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: talked about this in another context earlier today, and that's standing, Tiffany, 441 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: Before you would get to any of this, you have 442 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: to answer a threshold question, who has standing to bring 443 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 3: this lawsuit? Remember in the earlier discussion it was about, well, 444 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: who has standing to sue the president if they believe 445 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: that he is unlawfully using an executive order to pay TSA. 446 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: There's a nineteen ninety two Supreme Court case called lu 447 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: Han versus Defenders of Wildlife. 448 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: You, Tiffany, would need. 449 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: A concrete, specific personal injury, not a generalized grievance shared 450 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: by three hundred and thirty and five million Americans, like 451 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: you know, Congress lied to us. That's a text book 452 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 3: generalized grievance, and courts dismiss those before the incas even 453 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: dry on the complaint. So I guess, Tiffany, what I'm 454 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: trying to tell you is you can't do it. I 455 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: wish I had better news, and I'm sorry, but you 456 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: just simply can't not do it. But here's what I 457 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: think you ought to sit with for a second, because 458 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: I think this is the real conversation. The reason you 459 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: can't sue Congress for fraud is the same reason that 460 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: president can't throw members of Congress in jail for voting 461 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 3: the wrong way. Separation of powers, and that makes us 462 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: different than all virtually every other nation on the face 463 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: of the earth. The founders, the framers, the authors of 464 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: the Constitution deliberately made it very hard for one branch 465 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: to punish course or control another. And that protection, this 466 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 3: is really important to understand. That protection runs in every direction, 467 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: including away from you, Tiffany. And it keeps the President 468 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 3: from coercing Congress. It keeps Congress from coercing the president. 469 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: It keeps the Supreme Court from coercing anybody, or them 470 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: coersing the Supreme Court. 471 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 4: The founders weren't naive. They knew. 472 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: They knew just go read the Federalist papers. They knew 473 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: Congress would be corrupt. They knew that are you ready? 474 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: They knew that politicians would lie, and so their answer 475 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: wasn't lawsuits. Their answer is something that I think most 476 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: people don't want to accept. The answer to corruption, the 477 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: answer to being fraudulent, the answer to be to lying 478 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: to our faces, the answer to lying to us about oh, 479 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: you know, we couldn't pass the bill because the Democrats, 480 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 3: Oh we couldn't pass the bill because of the Republicans, 481 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 3: or that's dead on arrival. 482 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: But oh no, that's dead on arrival. 483 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: The answer is elections, primaries, a free press, and an 484 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: informed citizenry that's paying close enough attention to throw the 485 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: bumbs out because they're not doing they're not representing us, 486 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: and they're out there playing these games and bulk apping, 487 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 3: bullssing you and me about what's really going on. And 488 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: I would say to the press, you have failed your 489 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: job too, because other than Charles Pain this morning, I've 490 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: not even heard Fox News, the ostensible conservative cable channel, 491 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: not telling you the truth about what went on with 492 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 3: respect to these continuing resolutions and the funding and non 493 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: funding of NCBP. We don't want nuession. I think most 494 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: people don't want to be informed citizens because that takes effort, 495 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: It takes energy, it takes time, it takes a willingness 496 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: to sort through all the bull crap that you hear everywhere, 497 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: which you know, a citizenry paying a group of citizens 498 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty million Americans whatever the number, is 499 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: paying close enough attention to throw the bums out, which, 500 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: come to think of it might be exactly why some 501 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: of those bombs work so hard to make sure that 502 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: you are not paying attention. 503 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: That's what they're doing. 504 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: They're hiding behind procedure, They're hiding behind the politics. And 505 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: I think most importantly for this audience to understand this 506 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: is why I use the term cabal. Because they know 507 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: that they can go into a friendly editorial room, they 508 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: can go into a friendly studio and they can give 509 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: their spiel and Joe Scarborough will never see Mega Brazinski, 510 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: will not ask the tough question well really, because I 511 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: think what you really did is X, y Z, not ABC. 512 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: They won't ask those questions. Rarely do you find those 513 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: questions asked, because the kabal has become, in my opinion, 514 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: not much more than and stenographers. Oh this is what 515 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer says, So this is what we'll report. Oh, 516 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: let's do something even cool. Let's bring Chuck Schumer into 517 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: the studio. Oh, let's get John Thun onto Brett Behar's 518 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: program on Fox News and let's ask him about, well, 519 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: what happened? And then John Thun and Chuck Schumer over 520 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: on MSN Now or MSN Yesterday will sit there and 521 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: spew out the bs about this is what took place. 522 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: And rarely, if ever, I'm not saying never, but rarely, 523 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: if ever, will that anchor, will that reporter ask the 524 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: tough question and say, wait, let's put all that bull 525 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: crap aside, tell me the truth. 526 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: What about X, Y and Z? 527 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: So your job of being an informed citizen becomes even 528 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: more difficult because now you essentially have to do it 529 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: on your own, which I'm not gonna pack myself on 530 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: the back, but I will say this, I think that's 531 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: my mission is to explain to you simply how 532 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: It really works and what's really going on.