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Speaker 1: my god, it's so good. The Browns have been so
Speaker 1: bad for so long twenty five, six, seven, almost what
Speaker 1: thirty quarterbacks now in the last twenty years. Terrible football team,
Speaker 1: I mean, god awful. And they know they're not gonna
Speaker 1: do anything this season, not a damn thing, and what
Speaker 1: do they do? They still find a way to bone
Speaker 1: the Steelers. It's the best. It is the best. Seeing
Speaker 1: the dejected Steeler fans lead paycorps last night as the
Speaker 1: Bengals went thirty three to thirty one. That is a
Speaker 1: one game winning streak. Now three and four they're right
Speaker 1: in the hunt, still behind Pittsburgh, but hey, you just
Speaker 1: beat the boys on top. James Rapine is here work
Speaker 1: on at about twenty five minutes of sleep from Bengals
Speaker 1: Talk dot com Lockdown Bengals Every Day is Bengals Day
Speaker 1: with James Rapine and the podcast. James. I know it's
Speaker 1: hard getting up this early after but but it makes
Speaker 1: it easier when when you win in that fashion too.
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine what Mike Tomlin was saying
Speaker 1: on that long walk from the locker room, the Vision's
Speaker 1: locker room to the bus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so mad. He is so mad at the Browns
Speaker 2: right now. So good you gave them Joe Flacco and
Speaker 2: he dice? Is my defense up? And yeah? I mean
Speaker 2: it's uh.
Speaker 3: It was a long walk from Mike Tomlin for sure,
Speaker 3: and a huge season saving win at least for now
Speaker 3: for the Bengals.
Speaker 1: This feels like a season changing win. And the turning
Speaker 1: point in that game to me was it's it's second
Speaker 1: quarter and let me just look at the first quarter
Speaker 1: for a second here. Right, We're watching the game and
Speaker 1: there's some miscues with the Steelers. There's the I don't
Speaker 1: know what was going with that fake flea flicker where
Speaker 1: Flacca was yelling at his running back, and then interceptions
Speaker 1: and penalties, but it's still ten nothing Pittsburgh Like this
Speaker 1: is like Green Bay. Right, I'm to stay up and
Speaker 1: invest time and get no sleep and watch this game
Speaker 1: and to be so ticked off. I can't go to
Speaker 1: bed because they had a chance and they blew it.
Speaker 1: But it's like seven of you know, Pittsburgh. Chase Mitch
Speaker 1: is a catch, Brown drops the ball, Yosha Vas drops
Speaker 1: another one. Mims is jumping on a hard count on
Speaker 1: the same drive, no pass rush without Trey. This is
Speaker 1: setting up to be disaster, right, But then Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's thinking, throws this ball for
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. Here comes DJ Turner, who has been balling
Speaker 1: out this season, rips the ball away from one of
Speaker 1: the best interceptions of the season. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the ball goes Cincinnati's way with what forty three seconds
Speaker 1: left in the half, and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: Bengals are in business. That that to me was like
Speaker 1: the turning point for the I think taking the lead
Speaker 1: for the first time since Burrow went down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's That's what's wild is the Bengals didn't get
Speaker 3: off to a fast start. This wasn't prime time coming
Speaker 3: out at home season on the line. You grabbed the
Speaker 3: game right away, and it was the opposite. Steelers convert
Speaker 3: two third downs, get a touchdown. Aaron Rodgers has over
Speaker 3: eight seconds of the throw on their opening drive on
Speaker 3: that that touchdown pass to start things to John Smith
Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, defense, and that was kind of
Speaker 3: a scene for the defense. And then on offense they
Speaker 3: fun on fourth and four near midfield, and I'm like, Zach,
Speaker 3: why are you punting? And so they got off to
Speaker 3: a slow start, and to your point, they're down ten
Speaker 3: to nothing, and with four forty two left they swore
Speaker 3: and they go on to score seventeen points and a
Speaker 3: full forty two of the first half. And I just
Speaker 3: want to note this and really hammer this home. They
Speaker 3: hadn't scored a touchdown in the first half, Nope, since
Speaker 3: Bill Burrow was healthy, and so for them to score
Speaker 3: seventeen points, You're right. The defense Jurd and Battle had
Speaker 3: the first interception, really nice catch on a redeep down field,
Speaker 3: really bad ball by Aaron Rodgers. And then DJ Turner
Speaker 3: with an outstanding play. So the defense did step up
Speaker 3: really for the only in that sequence there. And you
Speaker 3: go from down ten to up seventeen to ten at
Speaker 3: the half and you get the ball out ahead of time.
Speaker 3: A huge turn of events there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two great picks, and those guys are playing great,
Speaker 1: maybe more in them a little bit, and you know,
Speaker 1: watching game, all of a sudden momentums in the way
Speaker 1: and then late in the game, right, Cincinnati scores on
Speaker 1: what seven to the last eight drives, seven eight drives
Speaker 1: except the one where it's second and twenty, there's less
Speaker 1: than three minutes left. How do you lose Pat fire
Speaker 1: move who's been carving you up. How do you lose
Speaker 1: him for a sixty eight yard touchdown? That's inexplicable to me.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're right, you're right. You're not going to get
Speaker 3: an argument for me here. The defense was awful. I
Speaker 3: mean that they were really bad for the majority of
Speaker 3: this game, and that is really unacceptable to give up
Speaker 3: that play. And really, you look at it, three touchdowns
Speaker 3: on four possessions. I'm not going to count the final
Speaker 3: seven seconds even though they did have to make a
Speaker 3: play there. Yeah, this day one in spite of their defense,
Speaker 3: which is why you trade for Joe Flacker. You know
Speaker 3: your offantastic carry you you know this is a Jamar
Speaker 3: Chase t Higgins, Chase Brown led team. In what we
Speaker 3: saw it last night.
Speaker 1: I watched this team. You have twenty plus years and
Speaker 1: we've seen the movie. It's like, now the Steelers go
Speaker 1: up late and you've got to be kidding me because
Speaker 1: they look so good down the stretch. We've seen this
Speaker 1: movie a thousand times, James Rapine. But you know what
Speaker 1: ten days ago, the guy who's wearing a Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: jersey a few hundred miles away, says, hold my insure,
Speaker 1: and he leads a drive with Flood. I mean, they've
Speaker 1: got plenty of time life, and I watch this guy
Speaker 1: just picked them apart, and Tea has this amazing selfless
Speaker 1: play at the end and on that, I'll point a
Speaker 1: Tea Gains finished with six touch of six catches for
Speaker 1: ninety six yards in a tuddy he couldn't have gotten.
Speaker 1: He could have gotten too that one hundred yard mark,
Speaker 1: but he slides a few yards show to the goal
Speaker 1: line to literally seal the win. Mean that was awesome,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: And there's and j Morrison actually had a great breakdown
Speaker 3: for us at bengalsbuck dot Com of this decision of
Speaker 3: t Higgins and Jamar Chase talking about what he did
Speaker 3: and what Jamar would have done in that spot, that
Speaker 3: Taylor learning from the past and how that influenced their
Speaker 3: decision to do what they did. And uh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I think there are a lot of skill players
Speaker 3: in the league, Scott that even if their coach tells
Speaker 3: them to do that, naturally they just glide into the
Speaker 3: end zone there because they're by themselves and it would
Speaker 3: have been a real easy touchdown and they start dancing,
Speaker 3: and you have any doubt that Aaron Rodgers would have
Speaker 3: drove down the field either won the game or tied
Speaker 3: the game. And so yeah, too much time, We've seen
Speaker 3: it too many times, and there just wasn't a competence
Speaker 3: level in this defense. And so you combine all of
Speaker 3: that with t Higgins's unselfishness, it's winning play, winning football,
Speaker 3: and that's what they need from their stars right now,
Speaker 3: and they got it last night.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been bashing on the offensive line so
Speaker 1: far this season, but you really have without Trey Henderson
Speaker 1: on the other side, which we'll get to in a second.
Speaker 1: So you know, the taal of two lines here, but
Speaker 1: the offensive line in particular, Man, you got all the questions.
Speaker 1: You know, Brown and Marius Mims. I'll be honest with
Speaker 1: you. You got to give them credit. They played well enough
Speaker 1: to win. They played pretty good.
Speaker 3: They did, they did, and I think Amaro Mens taking
Speaker 3: away TJ. Watt to the majority of this game, I
Speaker 3: mean I forgot t J. Watt was on the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It was almost like, oh, well the Bengals are without
Speaker 3: Trey Henderson and they can't get pressure, but neither can
Speaker 3: t J Watt. And look when when that does happen
Speaker 3: against that Steelers front, maybe get two sacks, but right
Speaker 3: when you're able to limit them from a past rush point,
Speaker 3: even though you throte forty seven times, that's an offensive
Speaker 3: execution standpoint. Joe Joe Blacker's getting the ball out fast.
Speaker 3: But this offensive line deserves a ton of credit. I
Speaker 3: agree with you.
Speaker 1: Dn Riisinger. On top of that, I mean, he you
Speaker 1: know you didn't hear his name calls like man Baldon Riser.
Speaker 1: Daldon Riiser was a stud last night.
Speaker 3: He was, and that's what I saw because he's a
Speaker 3: guy that you could have talked about months and months ago,
Speaker 3: and they signed him ten days before the season, and
Speaker 3: then he gets tossed out there when Ludus Patrick gets
Speaker 3: hurt week one and week two, he's had seven practices
Speaker 3: under his belt and he's trying to hit you to
Speaker 3: it and it's just it didn't look good. But the
Speaker 3: past two weeks have looked much better. And I think
Speaker 3: it's because he's got his football legs under him and
Speaker 3: he's in football shape and much more comfortable in the offense.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's played really well. And the
Speaker 3: thing that we saw last night that we hadn't seen
Speaker 3: all year long, his explosive runs were able to get
Speaker 3: Chased Brown going. Yep, they didn't run the ball at time,
Speaker 3: but eleven carries and you have a run thirty seven
Speaker 3: yards and another round of twenty eight yards. That is
Speaker 3: huge for this offensive. Run at huge for this offense.
Speaker 1: James the Rapine from sis bengalstock dot com and Lockdown
Speaker 1: Bengals Only Daily Bengals podcast. How do you explain that?
Speaker 1: Because so far heading into what week this week seven
Speaker 1: worst running team in the National Football League, they had
Speaker 1: only three hundred and forty yards on the ground, Chase
Speaker 1: is averaging less than three perkusing two point seven per carry.
Speaker 1: Last night it was almost ten yards per carry. What happened?
Speaker 3: I wish I wish, I wish I knew, Like what
Speaker 3: the key is? I mean, I think one they gave
Speaker 3: Chase daylight, but they were able to give him holes
Speaker 3: that he could run through and not get hit. I mean,
Speaker 3: we've seen so many times this year he's getting hit
Speaker 3: or having to cut or having to stop and start
Speaker 3: right as he gets the football and that's just that's
Speaker 3: never going to work. So for them to be the aggressor,
Speaker 3: to be physical, to out physical the Steelers, that's not
Speaker 3: something that we're used to seeing. Right the out physical
Speaker 3: the Steelers, Well they did, and it was able to
Speaker 3: get Chase Brown up in space some I jp Ryan
Speaker 3: had multiple good runs. And when you do that, then
Speaker 3: it gives one It gives your offense an easy button
Speaker 3: at times. It gives Joe Flacco options too. It just
Speaker 3: keeps him upright and clean. So even though you're throwing
Speaker 3: it forty seven times, it doesn't feel it that way
Speaker 3: because you've had some big runs on the ground. I mean,
Speaker 3: their biggest plays got weren't just passing plays, and that's
Speaker 3: rare for this Bengals team. They had the thirty eight
Speaker 3: yards Higgins is long touchdowns, but they had multiple big
Speaker 3: plays on the ground as well, which goes a long way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there were some holes too. I mean he
Speaker 1: was he was hitting the seam and the line was
Speaker 1: moving guys out of the way and away. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen in weeks all the season.
Speaker 3: I dare I say on the on the season, You're right,
Speaker 3: I mean, his longest run entering last night's game was
Speaker 3: thirteen yards and that happened five days ago in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: I mean, it has been a a bad running team.
Speaker 3: And one thing I do want to point out, and
Speaker 3: it was kind of kind of the seam of the
Speaker 3: night as far as getting off to a flow start.
Speaker 3: Chase Brown had a huge drop early in this game.
Speaker 3: That would have been a twenty plus yard game. Jamar,
Speaker 3: Chase had a few drops early, Andrey. All these guys
Speaker 3: rebounded to make huge, huge plays.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the conference came back. I saw Yoshi
Speaker 1: dropped upon my goddamn and then he hit that when
Speaker 1: it went down in the middle, I'm like, who, look,
Speaker 1: he's thrown it to I saw eighty. I'm like, oh lord,
Speaker 1: please just catch the ball. And he did. You know,
Speaker 1: they I think they shook the cobwebs out, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, we can win this thing. They started
Speaker 1: buying into what Flacco was doing. And you know, back
Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco, just that steady, calm presence. We mentioned
Speaker 1: that drive at the end of the game, you know,
Speaker 1: scripted out. You don't ramble the guy. He's just simply unflappable.
Speaker 1: And you look at this. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the story of the week in the NFL, and if
Speaker 1: he keeps it up, it's going to be the Darling
Speaker 1: story of the year. Thirty one forty seven, three hundred
Speaker 1: and forty two yards, three touchdowns, no picks. He's now
Speaker 1: amassed in his two games here unless than what today's
Speaker 1: day ten. I think of the Joe Flacco era. Uh,
Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty one yards, five touchdowns, no picks
Speaker 1: and a one hundred quarterback rating. That's not that's not
Speaker 1: just like keeping the lights on until the other Joe
Speaker 1: gets back. That's like playoff caliber football.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's not keeping the lights on right now.
Speaker 3: He's powering the whole damn house. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 3: the why you know, he's the why you believe, the
Speaker 3: why you you think that this offense or this team
Speaker 3: is capable of keeping a float and staying afloat without
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and maybe even making a run. And I
Speaker 3: think that's the significance of last night's win. How they
Speaker 3: did it with this offense, utilizing their best players, finding
Speaker 3: away and the first place game in the division. It's
Speaker 3: to me, at least right now, pretty easy to buy
Speaker 3: into this team hanging around and being there at the
Speaker 3: end because they were able to handle business against the
Speaker 3: Steelers team that gave them fits in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: and still they found a way to win with a
Speaker 3: guy who had literally his first practice with eight days
Speaker 3: before that game last night, and for him to play
Speaker 3: two games and throw for five sixty one, five touchdowns
Speaker 3: no pick in these past two games, it's really remarkable.
Speaker 1: I suppose to Dan Hordy yesterday and I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I know you're going to say no, but it feels
Speaker 1: like I must win yesterday. He said, of course not,
Speaker 1: because you know Steelers schedule is gonna be a lot harder.
Speaker 1: Arts gets a lot easier, and you beat a division up,
Speaker 1: but it's a division upon it. You fall three games back. Man,
Speaker 1: you're doing the calculus on that going now you're expecting
Speaker 1: other teams to lose, and we need these days you
Speaker 1: can kind of start to control on Dustiny. I mean,
Speaker 1: three and four is nothing right home about, but you're
Speaker 1: right there, especially in this division where it feels like
Speaker 1: nine's gonna win it. But now the margins get really
Speaker 1: really thin. And you know, we talked about the great
Speaker 1: performance by one line, but the other line, the pass
Speaker 1: rush was non existent. Forty one year old Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: had all day to throw the ball. Now, I know
Speaker 1: you didn't have Trey in there, you had Shamar Stewart
Speaker 1: coming back from injury, but still you expected better from
Speaker 1: that pass rush and just didn't get a last night.
Speaker 3: You know you didn't. You didn't defense a major disappointment.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm surprised that they weren't out outside
Speaker 3: of the turnovers, able to get a stop here or there. Right,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a great Steelers offense. They're they're fine,
Speaker 3: and they were able to limit dk metcast and so
Speaker 3: if you say, all right, we're going to limit dk metcalft,
Speaker 3: well you should be good. The problem is is Jamin
Speaker 3: Warren is still probably breaking tackles right now, had a
Speaker 3: huge game for the Steelers, and then Pat Pryers really
Speaker 3: got going late. So yeah, you just you can't give
Speaker 3: a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers that much time. When you do,
Speaker 3: and you give him a running game, it's going to
Speaker 3: be really, really tough to stop any offense. And so
Speaker 3: they have to figure that out regardless of Trey. And
Speaker 3: obviously you need Trey back. But if you don't have
Speaker 3: Trey you still got to be able to find ways
Speaker 3: to get pressure. They didn't last night. The good news
Speaker 3: it's gotten. The one nice thing I can say about
Speaker 3: the defense is they did force those two turnovers that
Speaker 3: helped flip the momentum and put the Bengals in position
Speaker 3: to take control of the game late in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't overshadow what was a spectacor when last
Speaker 1: night thirty three thirty one at Peycorps, the stadium looked great.
Speaker 1: You know, the white out worked. Unlike the last game
Speaker 1: where it was looked like an FC home game with
Speaker 1: the Lions jerseys and stuff. This was legit and the
Speaker 1: Bengals were able to hold on and pull this thing out.
Speaker 1: And now they've got momentum. And you got maybe a
Speaker 1: little chip on your shoulder here too, because you start
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule next up of the Jets and
Speaker 1: they're terrible. Now you can't play down obviously, but man,
Speaker 1: you have some conferences are thinking they can turn this
Speaker 1: into a multiple game win streak.
Speaker 3: Now, yes, I agree with that, and it's it's kind
Speaker 3: of wild to think in these terms, but this kind
Speaker 3: of shows you how Joe Flacco, his post Baltimore run
Speaker 3: has gone. I attended a Bengals Jets game where Joe
Speaker 3: Flacco was getting food and told to put him on
Speaker 3: the bench and all of the things, all of the above,
Speaker 3: and so great for that to turn into what could
Speaker 3: be a huge revenge game. That this the Bengals back
Speaker 3: to five hundred, right, I think they're they're in good position.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I agree with you Dan Hord
Speaker 3: hates the term must win, but it was a must
Speaker 3: win Beals. They couldn't have felled a two and five
Speaker 3: and realistically talk the playoffs. So it was a huge
Speaker 3: win for the bank.
Speaker 1: I love how Cleveland set this whole thing up and
Speaker 1: even though they can't win, like hand of the hand
Speaker 1: grenade to us as they're dying and and said, here
Speaker 1: you bomb. And that's what we did, right. We fragged
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin and they making meet
Speaker 1: those words about why the hell were That's that's why.
Speaker 3: Uhland wants to send Cincinnati. Is a little mild garrett too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe we could use that, why not. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 4: take there. We'll take a lot of the guys on
Speaker 4: defunse straight up.
Speaker 1: He is James rapineover at Bengals Talk dot Com Lockdow
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Speaker 1: I heard, by the way, during the Amazon Prime pregame show.
Speaker 1: I heard your voice multiple times in the setup from Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: So you got a little national play last night?
Speaker 3: How about that from me and mow On.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. That's pretty cool. James, all the best, buddy,
Speaker 1: Thanks for getting up, Thanks God, appreciating all the best.
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Speaker 1: and kind of jokingly, I was talking to James Rapeen.
Speaker 1: But the big Bengals win last night. If you went
Speaker 1: down to Paker, what a beautiful night. Weather was great
Speaker 1: on TV if you watch it on Prime like I did,
Speaker 1: look great with white out the field look fantastic. The
Speaker 1: uniforms are just the best in the NFL. I think there.
Speaker 1: I think those alternates, those the white and black stripes.
Speaker 1: The white strip's fantastic, and we look so good. And
Speaker 1: fortunately we walk out of there with a win, because
Speaker 1: I think if the Bengals had lost, we'd be They're
Speaker 1: out of it, they're done whatever. And then we're back
Speaker 1: to the tired story of homicides downtown, which we talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, four days a week here on the show.
Speaker 1: In the station. Others are going to talk about it
Speaker 1: all the time. There's only so much of that news
Speaker 1: you could hear, you know, and it's important. It's important
Speaker 1: talk about the police chief, what's going to happen in
Speaker 1: the future, and get this election coming up, and will
Speaker 1: things change? And you know, even if you're tired of
Speaker 1: hearing about I think we all recognize and realize, even
Speaker 1: if you don't live in Cincinnati, which is most people listening,
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter remains that is the heartbeat
Speaker 1: of our community. And if you have shootings and death
Speaker 1: in Mayhem on Fountain Square, which is the epicenter of
Speaker 1: our region, it's just going to continue to deteriorate the city.
Speaker 1: No one's going to want to come down and we're
Speaker 1: going to go back to the way we were in
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, which if you're around back then,
Speaker 1: there was nothing going on down there. I mean literally
Speaker 1: nine o'clock, the sidewalks were rolled up. There's nothing happened.
Speaker 1: There may be one or two bars down there. That
Speaker 1: was it. There was nothing worthwhile going down downtown. We
Speaker 1: had this huge renaissance, and here we are, and it
Speaker 1: feels like a lot of these bozos are are forces
Speaker 1: to go back in time, because that's how this all begins.
Speaker 1: And I see the street criminal bozos for sure, but
Speaker 1: our leadership, or alleged leadership are like thereof So last night,
Speaker 1: and had the Bengals lost, we'd probably be talking more
Speaker 1: about the fatal shooting last night outside of bar downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I think it was I want to say, so that's
Speaker 1: Sycamore and Third, So that's what near the in between
Speaker 1: there in between Around two am, I thought, okay, well
Speaker 1: the game was over. I went to bed like right
Speaker 1: around eleven o'clock, kind of late. And maybe you're hanging
Speaker 1: around at the game and having a couple of drinks
Speaker 1: after whatever, and so but there's still plenty of people
Speaker 1: around the two am and the victim is a man
Speaker 1: in his late twenties early thirties found dead inside a
Speaker 1: BMW has pronounced that the scene somebody rolled up and
Speaker 1: fired a bunch of shots in and then they took off.
Speaker 1: But again, we have the sociopaths out there that simply
Speaker 1: don't care that. Hey, you know what, there's there's families
Speaker 1: out there, there's young kids out there at that time
Speaker 1: of night simply because of Thursday night football. And this
Speaker 1: is because you have some stupid beef. It's all about you.
Speaker 1: The world revolves are on you. Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 1: You can blame Terry Thigi and fire her all you want.
Speaker 1: That's not on her. She is just say, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 3: She is just.
Speaker 1: On what's going on my phone here. She's basically just
Speaker 1: a figure. You ain't getting caught up in the middle
Speaker 1: of this whole thing. Could she do things better? Something's better?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Could some things be worse, I suppose, But that's not
Speaker 1: the problem. You know, The problem starts at the top.
Speaker 1: When you have this progressive priorities about what we want
Speaker 1: our community to be relative to those people are committing crimes,
Speaker 1: that every criminal out there is somehow a victim. And
Speaker 1: I think race is a huge component, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about racism and this stuff with you know, Representative Dave
Speaker 1: Young office with you know, with the swastik and things
Speaker 1: like that. But and we'll get to that and do
Speaker 1: time next week because that's still developing, which is scary.
Speaker 1: But the fact that matter range is Okay, we can
Speaker 1: talk about white racism young Republican racist, absolutely, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, like you know, the notion that somehow
Speaker 1: black people can't be racist, I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of racism happening within the people who are anti racist
Speaker 1: and they just don't see it though, And I pointed
Speaker 1: up people like Iris Rawley and the way she handles
Speaker 1: police officers, said, every single person of color who has stopped,
Speaker 1: even if there's a worn out for their rest, is
Speaker 1: somehow a victim in an unjust system. And when that
Speaker 1: is your worldview, how is that anymore or less racist
Speaker 1: than what we're talking about with what's happening with young
Speaker 1: Republicans who are in I guess in their h on
Speaker 1: their communications between each other, How is that anymore or
Speaker 1: less this you're influenced in public policy now, and I
Speaker 1: think there's a huge component of this. Something happened. I
Speaker 1: think last week I didn't get a chance to get
Speaker 1: to it, And maybe we'll do it for Monday, because again,
Speaker 1: Friday morning, I don't want to get into this other
Speaker 1: than the fact that, you know, we had another fatal
Speaker 1: shooting last night and literally putting a stain on the
Speaker 1: wind last night in Cincinnati. I don't want to say that.
Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals win is bigger than someone getting
Speaker 1: shot to death. But we've had a steady drumbeat of
Speaker 1: that kind of mayhem happening at our city center. And
Speaker 1: I know we're all tired. I'm tired of talking about it,
Speaker 1: You're tired about hearing it, We're tired about living it.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just tired and exhausted, and so so it feels
Speaker 1: good to talk about the Bengals beating our arch rivals,
Speaker 1: or one of our art rivals anyway, with the help
Speaker 1: of another arch rival, which is the story. And I
Speaker 1: want overshadow that because we really need on this Friday morning,
Speaker 1: damn it, we need something to celebrate for real, so
Speaker 1: there'll be more time to talk about that. Another death
Speaker 1: last night downtown more gunplay. Should that cost the chief
Speaker 1: a job? I don't think so. I think it is
Speaker 1: the policies that were established enforced by the chief, but
Speaker 1: those policies were not set by her. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You got to go to the top for
Speaker 1: this thing. And it's the guy who wants to be
Speaker 1: re elected coming up in just a few short weeks,
Speaker 1: and of course members a consul will enable that behavior
Speaker 1: as well. And I think AFTAB is going to win.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of numbers of council are
Speaker 1: going to be showing the door. We're not sure who,
Speaker 1: but that's going to be interesting as well, because we've
Speaker 1: got like twenty people running for those seats. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that, probably pick it back up again Monday. And
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 1: We did have a fatality downtown last night, another shooting,
Speaker 1: another steady drumbeat of that, but it shouldn't overshadow the
Speaker 1: fact that, hey, listen, we need to pimp, pump the brakes.
Speaker 1: It's Friday morning, lightened up a little bit, and we
Speaker 1: can pick this back up again Monday, and safe to
Speaker 1: say Monday there probably at this rate will be more
Speaker 1: shootings Downtown News on the way in just a few minutes.
Speaker 1: Mike Debiski is here from ABC New York. He's running
Speaker 1: little late, so he begs your indulgence there, we'll catch up.
Speaker 1: We got some movies out this week. I know Tron
Speaker 1: hit last week seems to be fading. New Ethan Hawke
Speaker 1: and Julia Roberts movie out as well too, in painting
Speaker 1: homage to a rock and roll legend. Next on The
Speaker 1: Scotts Long Show, seven hundred WLW. Saw me on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLWL light Year. We made our connections.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: Mike Debuski is here from ABC News in New York.
Speaker 1: He helps cover entertainment for US. Mike, good morning. How
Speaker 1: are we doing in how are you? I'm doing fine.
Speaker 1: A'ce Frayley dying at seventy two seventy four? What did
Speaker 1: I see yesterday? I just wanted to note that for
Speaker 1: the Kiss fans out there and part of my generation indeed,
Speaker 1: But I think he tripped in a studio and had
Speaker 1: a brain bleed, which is scary.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, definitely, and the rock world is mourning that
Speaker 6: in a pretty big way. Obviously, Kiss, you know, known
Speaker 6: for countless hits and their distinctive visual style. Yeah, Ace
Speaker 6: freely passing away in a very sudden and tragic way.
Speaker 1: Big New York guy, where you are too, back in
Speaker 1: the New York groove, so to speak. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk movie related stuff. I know Tron was supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Tron was a big one last weekend? Did
Speaker 1: that carry over this week?
Speaker 6: How?
Speaker 1: It too?
Speaker 6: Not particularly well, falling about ten million dollars short of
Speaker 6: what analysts had been expecting during its opening weekend last weekend. This,
Speaker 6: of course is the big sci fi epic from Disney,
Speaker 6: Jared leto Greta Lee starring in this, but you know,
Speaker 6: really just failed to connect with the movie going public.
Speaker 1: In a really big way.
Speaker 6: Disney has not really done a consistent Tron franchise. The
Speaker 6: original movie obviously came back, came out in the early
Speaker 6: eighties starring Jeff Bridges, and then they followed that up
Speaker 6: in twenty ten with Tron Legacy. That was a pretty
Speaker 6: modest hit, making about four undred million dollars or so
Speaker 6: globally when all was said and done. But yeah, coming
Speaker 6: back to the franchise now fifteen years later did not
Speaker 6: seem to connect. I think something that's going to be
Speaker 6: interesting this weekend as tron enters its second weekend of release,
Speaker 6: is to see if it stays at the top of
Speaker 6: the weekend box office. We're kind of in an interesting,
Speaker 6: sort of softer period for the box office right now,
Speaker 6: not you know, a defined hit coming down the line
Speaker 6: until a little bit later into November. So will Tron
Speaker 6: win again this weekend or will it be a newcomer
Speaker 6: something like The Black Phone two.
Speaker 1: This is a horror movie that's new this weekend.
Speaker 6: Starts Ethan hawk At, the follow up to the twenty
Speaker 6: twenty one film The Black Phone.
Speaker 1: And it's a you know, an adult film.
Speaker 6: It's not going to necessarily bring in a ton of
Speaker 6: you know, young kids or anything like that. But the
Speaker 6: first Black Phone was a pretty successful film on a
Speaker 6: pretty modest budget, and it was able to you know,
Speaker 6: raak in about twenty three million dollars or so back
Speaker 6: in twenty one, when you know, theaters were still reeling
Speaker 6: from the COVID nineteen pandemic. For what it's worth, Black
Speaker 6: Phone two tracking for about twenty five to thirty million
Speaker 6: dollars in its opening weekends. That would be enough to
Speaker 6: knock tron Arias down to the number two slot.
Speaker 1: All right, and plus say, you know, we've got Halloween
Speaker 1: coming up, so good time to roll out a even
Speaker 1: if it is a.
Speaker 6: Sequel, exactly exactly, and this is very much leaning into
Speaker 6: some of the classic Halloween themes, right you know.
Speaker 1: This is a.
Speaker 6: Movie where the serial killer known as the Grabber, he
Speaker 6: wears that very scary mask in the first movie. He
Speaker 6: comes back in the dream of some of the characters
Speaker 6: in this new movie. So heavily influenced by the Nightmare
Speaker 6: on Elm Street franchise and Freddy Krueger of it All,
Speaker 6: but also kind of the works of Stephen King. This
Speaker 6: is set in the early nineteen eighties, kind of has
Speaker 6: a very Stephen King kind of aesthetic to it in
Speaker 6: the filmmaking and in the image crafting. So it's something
Speaker 6: to keep an eye out for. And it comes from Blumhouse,
Speaker 6: which is a sort of well known and well liked
Speaker 6: horror studio. Their strategy has always been to go wide
Speaker 6: and go cheap right, make a lot of stuff on
Speaker 6: a modest budget, and.
Speaker 1: See if any thing hits.
Speaker 6: They have been able to ride that strategy to success
Speaker 6: with really big hits like get Out and the New
Speaker 6: Halloween franchise. The Perge franchise as well. But this year
Speaker 6: they've kind of been a little softer than maybe they
Speaker 6: would have wanted with movies like Megan two point zero
Speaker 6: and you know other films including you know, things like.
Speaker 1: The Wolfman and The Woman in the Yard.
Speaker 6: They kind of fell short of expectations, so they're looking
Speaker 6: for a hit this weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, Black Phone too. I did see the trailer.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it. Julia Robert
Speaker 1: Tander Garfield. After the Hunt? What is that?
Speaker 6: Yeah? After the Hunt is a new movie from Luca Guadanino,
Speaker 6: who has been working really hard the last few years.
Speaker 6: He's been putting out two or three movies a year.
Speaker 6: Last year was Challengers, which was that kind of very
Speaker 6: sensual tennis movie that starts Zenda. Also Queer, which is
Speaker 6: based on the Augustin Burrows novel you know that starred
Speaker 6: Daniel Craig as well. Now he's following it up with
Speaker 6: a college campus drama where Julie Roberts and Andrew Garfield
Speaker 6: play college professors who are up for ten yere one
Speaker 6: ten year splot and one of their students played by
Speaker 6: Io Edabiri from The Bear, comes forward and accuses Andrew
Speaker 6: Garfield of sexual assault, and it gets into the he said,
Speaker 6: she said, who do you believe? What are these relationships
Speaker 6: really at the end of the day, kind of campus
Speaker 6: politics of it all. People who've got a chance to
Speaker 6: see it early left very divided on this movie. They
Speaker 6: either loved it or they hated it. A lot of
Speaker 6: people really do seem to hate it. However, I was
Speaker 6: able to see it early and I walked away kind
Speaker 6: of impressed. It is not a movie that leaves you
Speaker 6: with any easy answers by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 6: But I also think it's a topic that is very
Speaker 6: nuanced and requires you to ask a lot of questions
Speaker 6: of it. So maybe not the most satisfying movie going
Speaker 6: experience if you're just looking for a kind of good
Speaker 6: time at the movies, But it's definitely one to chew
Speaker 6: on after the Hunt. And it's you know, scored by
Speaker 6: Trent Reznor and atticust Ross, who of course are have
Speaker 6: scored movies like The Social Network. Also, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: one of them went on to score tron Aris, so
Speaker 6: the score is pretty good as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nine Shells making the making a run here the Hollywood.
Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks. That's the reason to go
Speaker 1: see trot Aries. I'll be honest. It was pretty hard.
Speaker 1: That's good raging out with nine inch nails.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Small screen stuff I did get into because I've been
Speaker 1: nursing my ankle surgery and so having a lot of
Speaker 1: time to watch us. I started getting in The Black
Speaker 1: Rabbit on Netflix Jason Bateman, Jude Law and it's that
Speaker 1: is a slow burn, Like you watched it first episode,
Speaker 1: like I don't know. My wife laught, She's like, this
Speaker 1: is stupid. I gave it a couple episodes. It picked
Speaker 1: up really well. So if you're looking for something on
Speaker 1: the small screen, you may want to get on. It's
Speaker 1: not like the best Jason Jason. There's there's some elements
Speaker 1: of Ozark to it, but it's it's not bad.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had a chance to see that yet,
Speaker 6: but I've heard pretty good reviews again of slow Burn.
Speaker 6: You know, this is a thing that this prestige TV
Speaker 6: era really does fall into where you ask yourself the question,
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, this eight episodes. You know, maybe we
Speaker 6: build something really special by the end of the season,
Speaker 6: But would this have bitten better as a movie? I
Speaker 6: think that's a question that a lot of these sort
Speaker 6: of short form, you know, prestige series really do ask themselves.
Speaker 6: But then again, you know, some things are made for TV.
Speaker 6: It sounds like this one is. It sounds like it
Speaker 6: is rewarding to spend time with these characters, Jude Law,
Speaker 6: Jason Bateman. Of course, always a pleasure to see them
Speaker 6: on screen. And it seems like a pretty twisty thriller
Speaker 6: set in the world of kind of high end dining
Speaker 6: in New York City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool at worth it if you're
Speaker 1: looking for some But again, it's a slow play. It
Speaker 1: takes a while to get going. Mike Debuski in New
Speaker 1: York at Michael Lubuski, thanks for jumping in this morning
Speaker 1: with the entertainment stuff. Appreciate you. Yep, of course they
Speaker 1: can have a great weekend, buddy. Thanks again. It's a
Speaker 1: Scott Sloan show on seven hundred WLW. And play us
Speaker 1: out Ace Friley for a second.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 1: Ace Fraley Dad at seventy four, original league guitarist of Kiss,
Speaker 1: and he passed away because he was in the studio
Speaker 1: and fell down. I just think just a week or
Speaker 1: two ago and suffered Brainley, and of course it's seventy
Speaker 1: four that's not too recoverable. And his family and friends
Speaker 1: were with him when he passed away. Founding member of
Speaker 1: Kiss with Gene Simmons, Peter Chris on drums, and Paul
Speaker 1: Stanley of course, and just absolutely shredded some of the
Speaker 1: most classicalicks in rock and roll you heard from his
Speaker 1: guitar for more than a decade, about a decade right
Speaker 1: from seventy three to eighty two. He had some substance
Speaker 1: abuse problems, left the group creative issues of course, and
Speaker 1: then how much of that was the drugs talking, and
Speaker 1: he left and did some solo stuff. Freyley's comment back
Speaker 1: in the New York Groove was a good jam and
Speaker 1: of course came back together with Kiss and Na when
Speaker 1: Doctor and rocking on his Heart of Fame in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: That stuff, but Ace Frayley passing away I think NTROD
Speaker 1: twenty four So the quarter of the original Kiss and
Speaker 1: Kiss army has left the room, left the big stadium
Speaker 1: in the sky, so to speak. We'll get the news
Speaker 1: update in here momentarily and then return at ten oh six.
Speaker 1: Got some stuff happening in and around Cincinnati, A little
Speaker 1: bit lighter on this Friday morning. I know the big
Speaker 1: story today, of course, involves death, mayhemond destruction outside of
Speaker 1: the Bengals destroying the Steelers. And I love the fact
Speaker 1: that Cleveland right now is laughing. It was like the
Speaker 1: dying comrade hitting us the live grenade we tossed with
Speaker 1: the enemy at the Pittsburgh Steelers last night, giving us
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco at Seth Coach Mike Tomlin and the Steelers
Speaker 1: off yesterday or two days ago, as I guess I
Speaker 1: should say, he was upset because why would you trade
Speaker 1: why would you do this into a division team to
Speaker 1: screw Pittsburgh? So macu luck Cleveland with Cleveland, Cincinnati, the
Speaker 1: Ohio Bros keeping it real and going okay, our season
Speaker 1: is lost yet again with Cleveland.
Speaker 8: If you guys still kind of hat, you have a chance,
Speaker 8: burrow may pumeback and we'll give you Joe Flacco for
Speaker 8: a song, just please please feed Pittsburgh and the Bengals
Speaker 8: pulled it off last night at Pakor.
Speaker 1: I love it. You wonder what Mike tom was thinking
Speaker 1: of that long walk from the visitors locker room, the
Speaker 1: cold shower out to the nighttime, the air walking on
Speaker 1: that bus. What the hell was going for? Nuke Tomsy
Speaker 1: I think it was fantastic. Thank you Cleveland, Cleveland A
Speaker 1: debt of gratitude this morning, for sure, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: It's a Scott Sloan show. This is the home of
Speaker 1: the best Bengals coverage. Seven hundred WW Sincinnat American Friday Morning,
Speaker 1: flowing back with you on seven hundred WLW savoring and
Speaker 1: the delicious tiredness of a who Day win, which is
Speaker 1: the opposite we've had in the past and Friday mornings.
Speaker 1: I like to talk about a variety of different things
Speaker 1: and not all newsy or I should say bad news.
Speaker 1: He related some of this good news out there, believe
Speaker 1: or not, despite what we've been talking about, including last
Speaker 1: night shooting, and that would be this. We're making progress
Speaker 1: in a lot of areas.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Duke Energy Convention Center going back
Speaker 1: online and that's going to reopen, and the hotel is
Speaker 1: about to be started as well, and then you talk about, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe a new arena, and of course the Brent Spence
Speaker 1: Bridge project is just about to be in full swing.
Speaker 1: It'll be Orange Barrel Hell for a few years. But
Speaker 1: the end result is worth it. No more traffic jams
Speaker 1: and mayhem over the Ohio River. But to do all
Speaker 1: those things you did and you still need in the future,
Speaker 1: you will need bodies to do it. And of course
Speaker 1: one of my causes here on the show is construction trades.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a sick of fan for it because
Speaker 1: I realized that not everyone should go to school. I
Speaker 1: was one of those people, you know, but I got
Speaker 1: in back in the day when nell you needed was
Speaker 1: a check and a number two pencil, And today it's
Speaker 1: a lot harder. The stakes are much higher, and we
Speaker 1: know people are going into debt and now they're looking
Speaker 1: for the government and US taxpayer to bail them out
Speaker 1: because the model is broken. So what about the trades?
Speaker 1: Don't we understand we're making some inroads here locally, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, there's so much more to do.
Speaker 1: And on that is John strawser my buddy John Strasser,
Speaker 1: former CEO of Valley Interior Systems and Spirit of Construction
Speaker 1: fellow board member for a long time. He's been doing
Speaker 1: it since two thousand and three. And Amanda Smith is
Speaker 1: the executive director of the Spirit of Construction Foundation. Welcome guys,
Speaker 1: how are you? How's everybody? Amanda? Welcome in? Who Day Baby?
Speaker 1: Who Day? Got a man? As Mike on Dave Turn?
Speaker 1: Is that it is that?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 6: Hi? Hi?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's technology. We have no idea
Speaker 1: what we're doing over here at l W. We have
Speaker 1: no idea. We're really bad at it. We're in communications business.
Speaker 1: How are you doing? We're not very good at it.
Speaker 1: Good to have you, guys. How's everything? John? I know
Speaker 1: you're at the game last night? Wonderful? Yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 1: worth the late evening, Yeah, gotcha, And it was fun
Speaker 1: to watch on TV. So I got to bed before
Speaker 1: you did. But anyway, let's start with the need. First
Speaker 1: of all, I know that we've made progress, and I'll
Speaker 1: start with you in this genre real quick, and then
Speaker 1: we may progress in getting people in the trades are
Speaker 1: starting to but there's still a lot more to be done, right.
Speaker 9: There's a lot to be done with the retirement age
Speaker 9: coming down a little bit in the trades and the
Speaker 9: shortage of people getting interested in the trades. Last check
Speaker 9: I saw was we're sure about a million trades people
Speaker 9: across the United States.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and a number continues to grow despite younger
Speaker 1: people going, hey, I want to get into the trades
Speaker 1: as well. I brought that opportunity in Cincinnati. Is that
Speaker 1: you know, we hear about, hey, there's no job opportunity,
Speaker 1: there's no opportunity for and what do you expect when
Speaker 1: kids are going to go in the street and try
Speaker 1: to will make money. And we see these shootings and
Speaker 1: it's all related stupid beefs and they're not working, and
Speaker 1: they're getting off the bus. And we've got all the
Speaker 1: job we're building the bridge right now about to embark
Speaker 1: on this great You're gonna need thousands of jobs out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said this before to the influence of
Speaker 1: decision makers and the shit stakeholders are going, well, we
Speaker 1: just need more job. There's jobs right that. Literally, you
Speaker 1: guys will train people and put them to work the
Speaker 1: same day, won't you. We will.
Speaker 9: And we're actually starting in the fifth grade to starting
Speaker 9: you see kids through the trades, through some of the
Speaker 9: curriculum we're dealing with, and we're getting exposed to educated
Speaker 9: towards and trained to have a job, a job ready
Speaker 9: come senior year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's no outline either. It's like we hook
Speaker 1: you up with the tools, we get to the training,
Speaker 1: we've shown the job, you're making money. My nephew who
Speaker 1: moved here from Oregon is is going to iced to
Speaker 1: be an electrician, and so he works during the day
Speaker 1: and then a night or two a week they send
Speaker 1: him to school to learn how to become an electrician.
Speaker 1: He doesn't pay for anything, he's making money along the way.
Speaker 1: And there's so many of those opportunities out there. Heating, ventilating,
Speaker 1: air conditioning. Work with my guys of the grimmy group,
Speaker 1: same thing. They do classes there to teach people with
Speaker 1: daycon how to do AC and within eight weeks they're
Speaker 1: on the job. They're making money. Plenty opportunities like that
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and I'm so tired of hearing about there's
Speaker 1: no opportunity.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the opportunities are you name the trade, plumbers, electricians,
Speaker 9: mechanical painters, finishers. I mean, everybody needs workers right now.
Speaker 9: And the push to get the kids exposed is making
Speaker 9: making a big difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, let's turn to the Spirit of Construction Foundation, Amanda,
Speaker 1: where you come in, where we came in to try
Speaker 1: and bridge that app with scholarships and learning and getting
Speaker 1: programs and schools. Let's start with that. I know when
Speaker 1: I was a board member with John, I know the
Speaker 1: big thing was, hey, we got in a woodward, you know,
Speaker 1: we got shopped through the class back. But that's grown
Speaker 1: beyond that, right absolutely.
Speaker 10: So the Spirit of Construction was started back in nineteen
Speaker 10: ninety six as a way to recognize and celebrate the
Speaker 10: construction industry, and that was initially done through our annual
Speaker 10: Gay Law and John here actually is one of our
Speaker 10: Lifetime Achievemental winners this year. So every year at the
Speaker 10: annual Gala, we give out a Lifetime Achievement Award.
Speaker 1: What makes John's award.
Speaker 10: So special this year is that his dad also won
Speaker 10: the Lifetime Achievement war back in nineteen ninety nine, so
Speaker 10: he's actually a second generation lifetime honorees. So we're very
Speaker 10: excited to celebrate John at our gala this year.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is John's old John.
Speaker 11: I'm saying John's a big deal, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: Johnson amazing his ego, he knows what we know, what
Speaker 11: he's done. But it just means you're It's just a
Speaker 11: nice way of saying, damn, you're old or a buffalo
Speaker 11: at a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Now, no one's more deserving because because honestly working alongside
Speaker 1: you for a few years and just watching you the machine,
Speaker 1: that's the chancet. I mean he really, John's the guy
Speaker 1: who really drove this whole thing. And that's it's really
Speaker 1: cool to see and it's a well deserved. So congratulations.
Speaker 5: So we're excited.
Speaker 10: So what started out as having an annual gala has
Speaker 10: grown into what it is today. And so beyond the Gala,
Speaker 10: which is our major fundraiser, all net proceeds from that
Speaker 10: gala go to three buckets of work that we invest in, scholarships,
Speaker 10: workforce development, and we give out mini grants to nonprofits
Speaker 10: focused on workforce development within the construction industry, right.
Speaker 1: And those grants are nice because you look at the
Speaker 1: organizations and that benefit from that is you know, it's
Speaker 1: girls Scouts. So you go through the list here of
Speaker 1: organizations that get that and go, hey, we're putting these
Speaker 1: programs in. We're doing summer school, like a class where
Speaker 1: kids can do hands on building stuff and you know,
Speaker 1: use power tools from Milwaukee and you know, drill holes
Speaker 1: and boards and see how buildings are put together. And
Speaker 1: when you have the house, a hands on kid right,
Speaker 1: there's more tactile than than just sitting there and wrote memborization.
Speaker 1: Had you done that for me, I think I would
Speaker 1: be I would have been in the trades. And I've
Speaker 1: been doing this, which a lot of people listening and say, well,
Speaker 1: I really wish we could do that, and that's the
Speaker 1: way back machine. But some of us learn just by
Speaker 1: looking at it. And we're finally doing that. We're finally
Speaker 1: learning how to teach and reach these kids. And you wonder, John,
Speaker 1: how many kids over the years may have dropped out
Speaker 1: of school or said I, I I, this isn't for
Speaker 1: me because we're just sitting there. And it's the same
Speaker 1: way we all learned is here's a teacher, here's a
Speaker 1: white board or blackboard. You're gonna have to memorize this.
Speaker 1: Look in the book. It's all theory. You put the
Speaker 1: practical thing into it, the matter. This is why you
Speaker 1: need shop math, for example, which you helped get into schools.
Speaker 1: It's reaching so many kids who had fallen though the
Speaker 1: cracks before. It's incredible.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're teaching kids how to take a tape measure
Speaker 9: and say half inch plus three quarters is one and
Speaker 9: a quarter. You and I understand that because we use
Speaker 9: a tape measure almost every day in the jobs, and
Speaker 9: the trades were the work we're doing around our homes,
Speaker 9: and by getting the kids exposed to this, we think
Speaker 9: that it's close to fifty percent of every student in
Speaker 9: the classroom as a visual learner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a book learner.
Speaker 9: And the school system does not teach or focus on
Speaker 9: these kind of kids. And now that we're doing it,
Speaker 9: we're gaining the opportunity putting a tape measure in their hand.
Speaker 9: Their eyes are opening up, they're understanding, they're looking up
Speaker 9: into the sky at this and understanding that hey, science
Speaker 9: ties in with math and now as SUD their grades
Speaker 9: are accelerating their attending class and it's making a difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like algebra, I don't know numbers and letters, why
Speaker 1: do they need to go together? But you know, you
Speaker 1: start doing calculations, you start doing like your roof, slopes
Speaker 1: and stairs, and it's like, oh, I get it. Now
Speaker 1: this is where it's applicable in the real world. And
Speaker 1: there was never that connection we're going to school and
Speaker 1: now there is.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's making a big difference. In the end,
Speaker 9: we're seeing kids come into the trades now with a
Speaker 9: direct impact. Now, it takes time. I mean, when you
Speaker 9: start teaching in fifth grade, you know you've got a
Speaker 9: seven year process to get them through where they become
Speaker 9: the correct nation to being hired. But we're now, after
Speaker 9: the years of work we put in, we're starting to
Speaker 9: have kids now make that jump to the trades.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, it's a man a Smith, the executive rector
Speaker 1: of Spiritual Construction Foundation, and John Strasser, the former CEO
Speaker 1: of Valley Interiors here in Cincinnati, but they're all over
Speaker 1: the state. A board member there since two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be an honoree this year at the gala,
Speaker 1: which is coming up on the twenty.
Speaker 10: Fifth, Right, that's right next Saturday, full house, full house,
Speaker 10: record number thirteen hundred folks done at the Northern Kentucky
Speaker 10: Convention Center. Next year is our thirtieth annual gala.
Speaker 5: So we're excited about that, yep.
Speaker 10: But all proceeds from the gala actually are reinvested as
Speaker 10: a foundation. We are a funder and we reinvest those
Speaker 10: dollars back into workforce development within the trades in construction.
Speaker 1: Part of the scholarships you have went in at like
Speaker 1: like seven hundred thousand dollars of the years in scholarships,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 10: So we've been doing scholarships since two thousand and four.
Speaker 10: We started by giving out scholarships at University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 10: This year alone, we gave out twenty five scholarships seventy
Speaker 10: eight thousand dollars, and those scholarships are first students at
Speaker 10: NKU and UC that are looking at construction management Cincinnati
Speaker 10: State as well, and then we also give scholarships to
Speaker 10: military veterans that are looking at getting into construction. And
Speaker 10: for the first time ever this year, we gave out
Speaker 10: skilled trade scholarships, so that's anyone that's interested in getting
Speaker 10: enrolled or as an incentive to keep them enrolled in
Speaker 10: skilled trades. So we're really proud of our scholarship program.
Speaker 10: Since two thousand and four, we've given out two hundred
Speaker 10: and seventy eight scholarships.
Speaker 1: And it's cool now because you get people fighting for
Speaker 1: the scholarship and saying, hey, we're doing this this and
Speaker 1: it's not a being war, but you know, you want
Speaker 1: to see where the best bang for the bucket's going
Speaker 1: to be. But it makes all those entities be sharp
Speaker 1: at what they're doing. Their focus of course, is getting
Speaker 1: young people in the construction straates, and I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to see that we are getting fifth graders now interested
Speaker 1: in there. It used to be a tough sell to
Speaker 1: school public schools in Cincinnati, John, where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we were finding the way where no, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're missing all these kids and you just it's so
Speaker 1: sad to me to think over the years how many
Speaker 1: kids were lost that they may have turned to a life.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, you know, you fall through
Speaker 1: the cracks, you drop on a school life is it's
Speaker 1: not going to work out for you, and chances are
Speaker 1: going to depend on the system or in one way
Speaker 1: or the other. And we know what the outcome is.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the violence happening in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 1: you wonder how many of those young lives could have
Speaker 1: been reached years before if we would have done this.
Speaker 1: But the good news is we're making progress. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about the expansion in the public schools and the
Speaker 1: light because I mentioned Woodward and the light bulb went
Speaker 1: off for I think a lot of people when they
Speaker 1: heard and this is years ago, and you'd be able
Speaker 1: to articulate this better than I but I recall going, hey,
Speaker 1: these are kids are like on the margins, probably not
Speaker 1: doing well. All of a sudden we're teaching the trades,
Speaker 1: shop class, shop, math and stuff like that, and they
Speaker 1: went from literally on the borderline to dropping out to
Speaker 1: being among the best performers in the school in the
Speaker 1: school itself as far as acadomicsgo.
Speaker 9: In twenty seventeen is when we started the program at
Speaker 9: Woodward and the first eleven students that were put into
Speaker 9: the program were very high risk. Two of the eleven
Speaker 9: dropped out of school fairly quick. The other nine continue
Speaker 9: through the program and graduated four years later. Seven went
Speaker 9: into the trades, two actually went into nursing, and one
Speaker 9: of the nine end up top five of the class
Speaker 9: academically cool. And it was all because of the math program.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they could see it now and I think
Speaker 1: that literally goes. I know it kept getting back to that,
Speaker 1: but that's a big thing, I think, to get those mind,
Speaker 1: the hearts and mind change. And then when you see
Speaker 1: the educators go wow, okay, well maybe we're missing something here.
Speaker 1: Now it's spread like wildfire.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we started it Woodward and teachers were talking to
Speaker 9: other teachers at other school systems and maybe eight years
Speaker 9: later we're in thirty one school systems. That's unreal throughout
Speaker 9: Good Ohio and northern Conti.
Speaker 1: So it's making a comeback, but we still have a
Speaker 1: long way to go, right, Amanda. That's the thing is
Speaker 1: with the scholarship and the attention, the spirit of Construction Foundation,
Speaker 1: there's just so much more work. So this is just
Speaker 1: just the start of things. I mean, thirty one schools
Speaker 1: from one is a lot in just a few short years,
Speaker 1: less than a decade. But you know, you want to
Speaker 1: see that number in one hundreds now absolutely. How do
Speaker 1: you do that?
Speaker 10: Well, one of the ways is that we are making
Speaker 10: investments in workforce development programs. Specifically, as we've mentioned, we're
Speaker 10: targeting kids that are in middle school in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 10: We supported a program called Trades Northern Kentucky. It started
Speaker 10: out in Campbell County schools reaching about two hundred and
Speaker 10: seventy middle schoolers. With our support and matching dollars from
Speaker 10: b and KY, they're now in Kenton County schools and
Speaker 10: in Homes Middle School they're reaching over six hundred kids.
Speaker 10: And that's again providing cure to the students about what
Speaker 10: is skilled trades, what does a career path look like?
Speaker 10: And then for the very first time, Trades in Northern
Speaker 10: Kentucky is having a Skilled Trades career Fair in April
Speaker 10: of twenty six. And again, we just want to continue
Speaker 10: to provide exposure to students that, you know, as you
Speaker 10: guys have talked about our visual learners, maybe not you know,
Speaker 10: planning on going to college. But we want to tell
Speaker 10: the kids, but not only the kids, their parents that
Speaker 10: skilled trades is a viable career path where you can
Speaker 10: make great money and have a really great future and
Speaker 10: great career if you pick it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like because of these students, don't let
Speaker 1: the student debt and the long crisis and a host
Speaker 1: of other factors, that parents are starting to maybe wake
Speaker 1: up that way because on that long ago where and
Speaker 1: a lot of parents, there's some parents still do this.
Speaker 1: They look at their success as a parent by where
Speaker 1: the kid goes to college, and not as that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean there's still that stigma out there like, oh,
Speaker 1: my kid doesn't go to college and he or she
Speaker 1: as shame and somehow it's shameful, and it's all that's
Speaker 1: marketing is all that is. Are we starting to win
Speaker 1: that war of attrition or starting to win that war.
Speaker 1: That the trades are noble and also a very enriching area.
Speaker 10: To go absolutely, and I think it's all about dollars
Speaker 10: and cents too. If we can show them that your
Speaker 10: child can earn to learn through an apprenticeship program, so
Speaker 10: right out of high school, they're making money, they're not encouraging,
Speaker 10: they're not incurring college debt, and they're making a really
Speaker 10: great wage. I think that's the story that we have
Speaker 10: to get to parents that it's it's an exciting, honorable
Speaker 10: career that a lot of people, you know, find great
Speaker 10: joy in and it's okay to not go to college.
Speaker 10: And so not only are we trying to tell the
Speaker 10: kids that, but we also need to tell their parents
Speaker 10: that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully that model is changing, that the value
Speaker 1: of parenthood is not like where my kid went to school,
Speaker 1: or where I'm going to school, or you know, where
Speaker 1: the degree is from. It's rather the fact is like
Speaker 1: are you being productive? You know, can you afford a
Speaker 1: middle class or professon lifestyle. And a lot of folks
Speaker 1: who are in the trades right it's like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: the light bulb goes off like my nephew's in electrical now,
Speaker 1: And I said, you know, when you're my age, though,
Speaker 1: you want to be the guy who owns the place
Speaker 1: that is hiring other electricians Like John, You're a family
Speaker 1: business at Valianteer. You know what I'm saying. But how
Speaker 1: many guys do that and women now that are learning
Speaker 1: and becoming masters of what they do, but then branching
Speaker 1: off and doing their own thing. That's American dream. Yeah.
Speaker 9: The stories are numerous, and we at the gala next
Speaker 9: weekend over thirty years of Lifetime Achievement Award winners. The
Speaker 9: stories were all about I had a pickup truck, I
Speaker 9: went to the banker and got a ten thousand dollars
Speaker 9: loan and created a you know, a company that hires
Speaker 9: five hundred people. Yeah, so the stories are endless. It's just,
Speaker 9: you know, most contractors are very humble and don't toot
Speaker 9: their horn, and most people don't understand the opportunities that
Speaker 9: exist within the construction industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think Jostin for example, and you
Speaker 1: know the Smithman family, same thing. It's like, hey, we
Speaker 1: started this thing and they're growing and growing in company.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. Like these these people will leave,
Speaker 1: you know, folks will leave a company, or they'll get
Speaker 1: some experience in trades and wind up doing their own
Speaker 1: thing and grow, which turns out to be the future.
Speaker 1: Companies will be board members and have seats at the
Speaker 1: table the future spiritual construction. So it's an awesome thing
Speaker 1: to see. So you know, if you have the wherewith
Speaker 1: all the knowledge a little bit of luck on your
Speaker 1: side too, you can achieve these great things. And there's
Speaker 1: so many people. That always strikes me that when we
Speaker 1: do the event, and again it's the twenty fifth, and
Speaker 1: how many people are like, yeah, high school, you don't
Speaker 1: you know, you don't need a doctorate in construction. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's nice to we have that stuff right, architectural to grow, okay,
Speaker 1: but a lot of those folks are like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was swinging a hammer, or I was you know, I
Speaker 1: was using a shovel, or I was doing heavy equipment
Speaker 1: and just kind of grew into this thing. And here
Speaker 1: we are today and now when playing hundreds of people, it's.
Speaker 9: Great and a lot of people, you know, it's it's
Speaker 9: a very generous group of people. Also, I mean, next
Speaker 9: weekend we're looking at raising I think one point one million.
Speaker 1: Dollars to give back to the trades, right right.
Speaker 9: And this is all homegrown in Cincinnati companies that are
Speaker 9: that are supporting what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before you got to get a plug in real
Speaker 1: quick for the beer because that's really really good. That's
Speaker 1: one of the coolest partnerships collabs. As a kid say today,
Speaker 1: Spirit of Construction and Blueprint. That's right.
Speaker 10: So last spring, this past spring, we launched a beer
Speaker 10: with Braxton. It's called Braxton Blueprint, and proceeds from the
Speaker 10: sales of the beer actually come back to the Spirit
Speaker 10: and we're going to reinvest in workforce development. The beer
Speaker 10: can be found at Kroger, Party Source independent liquor stores.
Speaker 10: So go out and buy a fifteen pack called Blueprint
Speaker 10: by braxstild.
Speaker 1: Print Bybacks, which by the way, I have a fifty.
Speaker 1: I have some in my fridge at home for that
Speaker 1: very reason. Support the cause. And if you see that,
Speaker 1: go and it's really actually really good beer. Really they
Speaker 1: brag did a great job. We're there for the rollout.
Speaker 1: Got to get going. But again I know that the
Speaker 1: gala is sold up, But congratulations John in your lifetime achievement.
Speaker 1: It's well deserved. My buddy John Strasser and Amanda Smith,
Speaker 1: who of course now is the executive director of Spirit
Speaker 1: Construction Foundation popping in their gala happens on the twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: But just wanted to lay out all the great work. Well,
Speaker 1: those bad news are having and this is good news,
Speaker 1: like this is solving the problem of generational poverty and
Speaker 1: the problems we face in downtown Cincinnati, but also enabling
Speaker 1: young people to realize that like hey, listen, not the
Speaker 1: best epic academic in the orld, but there's a chance
Speaker 1: for you to be extremely successful in life. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean where you go to college. It's just you got
Speaker 1: to continue your learning. Some of us learn differently than others,
Speaker 1: and we'll recognize that. And the growth has been tremendous
Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati. So really proud of that for you guys.
Speaker 1: Congratulations and thanks again for coming in. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. I have a great weekend. I got to
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Speaker 1: and more. Hooday is the Bengals and we should tip
Speaker 1: a hat to our brothers and sisters in Cleveland because
Speaker 1: together we are Ohio strong and Ohio proud. That the
Speaker 1: Browns may not win a game the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: but they still beat the Steelers yesterday at pay Course
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. Here we go, Hoo Day Friday, not
Speaker 1: Day Monday? Who Day Friday? On the Home of the
Speaker 1: Best Bengals coverage, seven hundred WLW. Did you have hope
Speaker 1: and faith last night? Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty
Speaker 1: Was there hope in faith? Uh?
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know that I've I ever really feel
Speaker 4: that way, to be honest, Like, there were a couple
Speaker 4: of moments where they had a chance to go win
Speaker 4: the game on offense, and the first drive they kind
Speaker 4: of urinated down their leg. The second drive they found
Speaker 4: a way to go get points. But you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's the universal, you know, feeling of a Cincinnati sports
Speaker 4: fan is how is this going to go wrong? And
Speaker 4: that's kind of what I was feeling, Yeah, because that
Speaker 4: first quarter, right, it's not like the Steelers are light
Speaker 4: up that the fake flea flicker whatever happened? Who was
Speaker 4: yelling at this running bags communications and interceptions, but you know,
Speaker 4: at the end of the it's still ten nothing Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: And on top of that, you know Jamar Chase missus
Speaker 4: a catch, Brown drops which should have been a thirty
Speaker 4: yard game. Yosivas drops it other ball like he's gonna
Speaker 4: be on bench with Cam Taylor Bread.
Speaker 1: Or without men Trey Hendrickson as well. Yeah, no pass
Speaker 1: rush whatsoever. I'm like, oh my god, this is not
Speaker 1: going to be good. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I think what changed it was.
Speaker 1: The turning point of this thing is that interception. DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf goes up for the ball and it was one
Speaker 1: of the best picks you're going to see by DJ Turner,
Speaker 1: who's been having a great year.
Speaker 4: I would say even the interception before that first play
Speaker 4: of the drive and Rogers takes a deep shot and
Speaker 4: when you really go back and look at that throw
Speaker 4: was awful. I can understand, throw it up to your
Speaker 4: big guy take a shot on first down, but the
Speaker 4: throw wasn't even close. Wasn't even a competitive throw from
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. And to Jordan Battle's credit, he was all
Speaker 4: over to maximize on a mistake. Bengals get a touchdown.
Speaker 4: Immediately following that, they start to find their rhythm. Then
Speaker 4: DJ Turner makes that interception you're talking about, which is
Speaker 4: a ridiculous steal the ball away, get my foot down
Speaker 4: falling out of bounds, and the Bengals turn that into points.
Speaker 4: So it's not often you get two gifts interceptions from
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, and it's even less often that you turn
Speaker 4: that into fourteen points.
Speaker 1: That was the key to the game. I know, hell,
Speaker 1: we're right because Metcalf gets picked by you're right battle,
Speaker 1: But then it was Chase Brown had his great run
Speaker 1: and then t scores. It's like, wait, what just happened?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for time to a leads and Burrow went down,
Speaker 4: flipped the switch very quickly, and it felt like, Okay,
Speaker 4: they're taking control a little bit here. They're maximizing on
Speaker 4: the mistakes of the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're not relying on
Speaker 4: their defense as much, and they're controlling the clock. And
Speaker 4: that drive after the first interception, where they able to
Speaker 4: run the football consistently and drain a little bit of
Speaker 4: clock and get into the end zone. That was the
Speaker 4: sign of things to come, and hopefully a sign of
Speaker 4: things to come for the future. Because when you run
Speaker 4: the football, it opens everything else up. And last night
Speaker 4: there was a threat of the Bengals being able to
Speaker 4: run the ball, and because of that, Jamar Chase ran free,
Speaker 4: t Higgins ran free, Andrey Yoshivas had a big thirty
Speaker 4: nine interception Noah off of a play action late in
Speaker 4: the game gets them into Pittsburgh territory. It opens up
Speaker 4: the rest of the offense when you have even the
Speaker 4: smallest threat of being able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: I know this is kiss Flacco's aast day on the show,
Speaker 1: on it, but we should be because I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, here's the guy. He's been with them. Now
Speaker 1: today is the tenth day he's at a Bengal. At
Speaker 1: ten days. Yeah, he's what thirty one to forty seven
Speaker 1: last night, three hundred and forty two yards, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: not won an interception. So he's over five hundred yards,
Speaker 1: five tds and no iron t's in two games and
Speaker 1: the quarterback rating over one hundred. That's not just like hey,
Speaker 1: can they hang around and get it done until Joe
Speaker 1: one gets back? This is like all right, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is he's really good.
Speaker 4: This was the vision, Like you know, there was a
Speaker 4: list yesterday that came out of all the different quarterbacks
Speaker 4: that the Bengals looked at and considered and finally landing
Speaker 4: on Flacco and looking at that list, I don't know
Speaker 4: how many of them would be able to do what
Speaker 4: he did last night. He's got this perfect mix of
Speaker 4: veteran presence. Yeah, and is this perfect mix of being
Speaker 4: aggressive but not reckless, and also getting the ball out quickly.
Speaker 4: It's finding a good completion but also not settling for
Speaker 4: stuff behind the behind the sticks, Like there were multiple
Speaker 4: times third and ten or longer where Flacco threw the
Speaker 4: ball past the first down marker trying to get a
Speaker 4: first down and completed them. And how many times do
Speaker 4: we complain about that as Bengals fans. Oh, it's third
Speaker 4: and ten and you throw a four yard slant and
Speaker 4: you're putting. Like the aggressiveness from Flacco, I thought did
Speaker 4: a great job of towing that line. And I think
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor deserves a lot of credit. I think we'll
Speaker 4: go ahead. I think Zach Taylor called his best game
Speaker 4: as a play caller since they beat the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 4: in the playoffs a couple of years ago. Like he
Speaker 4: had great feel he had great balance. Everything worked off
Speaker 4: of one another. There were RPOs, there were quick game,
Speaker 4: there was some wrinkles into the run game.
Speaker 1: Zach did a great job. Yeah, I think what that
Speaker 1: note too. I was like, at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: that is the greatest call that Taylor's had this season,
Speaker 1: and that would be bootleg Joe Flacco. And it turns
Speaker 1: out Flacco was like, yeah, I was supposed to Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he calls it. I did that on my own, right,
Speaker 1: what Yeah?
Speaker 4: I immediately shaped I thought, what all shades of Ryan
Speaker 4: Finley against the Steelers on a Monday Night a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago, where he just keeps the ball and
Speaker 4: runs and basically ice is the game. And I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, they just did the Ryan Finley with
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. And then come to find out, Flaco's like,
Speaker 4: I can't burn a time out.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take a delay a game. Screw it.
Speaker 4: I'll just run it myself. And he did and he
Speaker 4: got twelve dollars. Just like they're looking I forget who
Speaker 4: which player was for. They they're bocking and they're pushing
Speaker 4: there and he's running the other way and he does like.
Speaker 1: The Scooby doo double take what And here's Joe crawling
Speaker 1: like a like just get ten.
Speaker 4: Baby, and that the stadium reaction to that was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was so good. People are high five. And then
Speaker 1: there's hope in Cincinnati once again. Austin Elmore from ESPN
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty on the Show this morning on seven hundred
Speaker 1: w welw uh. They score on seven of eight drives,
Speaker 1: excess and where were you though? Steelers take the late
Speaker 1: lead and you could almost feel it coming. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching this game and it's like, sure enough. The
Speaker 1: one drive that they don't score on they give it
Speaker 1: to Pat Fryermuth wat sixty. I don't know why he's
Speaker 1: that open at this point in the game, there's so
Speaker 1: much on the line and basically walks in the end
Speaker 1: z on. They're like second and twenty, I think, with
Speaker 1: under three minutes left. Yeah, and at the moment, you're
Speaker 1: like typical Bengals, right, But I didn't think that. I'm
Speaker 1: I went the minute they score, I looked down at
Speaker 1: the clock and went, I think we're still going to
Speaker 1: win this because you scored a little too quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is what it came down to,
Speaker 4: and it gave the Bengals a chance to run that
Speaker 4: two minute offense and not get out of cont like
Speaker 4: they still had time to run the ball, they still
Speaker 4: had time to do those play actions, like they didn't
Speaker 4: have to just go into a full spread it out
Speaker 4: work the sideline type of situation where you're relying on
Speaker 4: on Flacco and your past your past blockers to really
Speaker 4: be perfect, and so because of that, you were able
Speaker 4: to just kind of operate the offense the way you
Speaker 4: normally would and the most, you know, the best play
Speaker 4: of the night was the deep ball to T Higgins
Speaker 4: and he slides down inside the ten. And that basically
Speaker 4: number one is respect for Aaron Rodgers. It's also understanding
Speaker 4: that your defense can't stop anybody, and it keeps you
Speaker 4: in control of the game and forces Pittsburgh to start
Speaker 4: using timeouts. It was an unselfish, brilliant play by T.
Speaker 1: Higgins.
Speaker 4: And on top of that, again, I keep going back
Speaker 4: to the play call. They didn't get conservative.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: In that situation.
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's dialing up a deep ball and T Higgins
Speaker 4: goes and gets it, and.
Speaker 1: He goes sideline. He does that cut in and slides
Speaker 1: down and makes a great catch in all the credit
Speaker 1: the world of the play calling too, But to me,
Speaker 1: that's the catch of the game because t Higgins could
Speaker 1: have went in the end zone because he's four yards
Speaker 1: short of one hundred. Yeah right, and players pay attention. Sure,
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I gotta go down because we can.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make them burn their talents. We're gonna win
Speaker 1: this football game. And that was like, to me, was selflessness.
Speaker 1: His tee zones overshadowed by Jamar great play, but that
Speaker 1: was the play of the game for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, I think it speaks to the culture
Speaker 4: of Okay, it's really not about anything else, it's about winning.
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase was asked after the game, you know, would
Speaker 4: that have been hard for you to do in that
Speaker 4: moment to slide down, And he's like, no, not if
Speaker 4: you want to win, Like like there wasn't even a
Speaker 4: second thought, not even a hesitation. And it made you
Speaker 4: feel like, Okay, the Bengals are prepared, they understand the situation,
Speaker 4: they're smart, they are unselfish. Those qualities are all very
Speaker 4: important in a football team. Now, if they could tackle,
Speaker 4: that'd be great, right, Well, if they could run the
Speaker 4: ball more consistently, that'd be great, But in those moments
Speaker 4: where you got to win the football game by doing
Speaker 4: the little stuff, they did it right.
Speaker 1: One final point on that too, Austin Olmore, is that
Speaker 1: he is like the He's like the quarterback therapy dog.
Speaker 1: Flacco is in that this team. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the first started the game, right, Guys
Speaker 1: are dropping balls, Yoshavak drops another one, Chase had an
Speaker 1: easy catch across the middle, even Chase dropped one. Guys
Speaker 1: are jumping off sides. But all through the game he
Speaker 1: had this common presence like he was never rattled, you know,
Speaker 1: even it was under pressure, he'd get rid of the ball,
Speaker 1: make great choices, and it's almost like you could see
Speaker 1: this time team starting to believe, like, hey, you know
Speaker 1: what what happened in the second half in Green Bay
Speaker 1: where we started to come back. That's carrying over to
Speaker 1: this game and we're starting to believe. Whereas I look
Speaker 1: at the other side and Aaron Rodgers kind of a dick,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's he's like yelling is
Speaker 1: the flea fucker player Yellow is running Like every time
Speaker 1: someone go wrong, you'd be yelling at people like I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill myself for this guy's a jerk,
Speaker 1: whereas Flac was like, it's we got this, it's flying,
Speaker 1: take it easy. Even the two, you know, the drive
Speaker 1: at the end of the game is like never looked like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we got to get down the field.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Burrow would do that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like, there's this dad influence over
Speaker 1: this team right now, and maybe that's what they needed.
Speaker 4: I do think that there's probably something to that, like
Speaker 4: the whole Dad influence to it of like, fine, this
Speaker 4: is the I've there's no situation that Joe Flacco hasn't
Speaker 4: seen in the.
Speaker 1: NFL as an experienced There's no pressure. I played in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: it's fine.
Speaker 4: I played with the Colts, the Broadcos, the Ravens, the Browns.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I've been here and done this.
Speaker 4: And Jamar Chase kind of talked about that afterwards too,
Speaker 4: calling him like Joe calm instead of Joe cool, and
Speaker 4: how his facial expression just never changed, and you know,
Speaker 4: much like a lot of Bengals fans in that moment
Speaker 4: are feeling okay, here it goes, scorees like here we go,
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco in that moment is like, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 4: go win the game, and here's how we're gonna do.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think I think Burrow has that
Speaker 4: trade as well, which is what makes him great. I
Speaker 4: think all the great quarterbacks have that, even Rogers. Rogers
Speaker 4: I think was frustrated last night because I don't think
Speaker 4: he performed to his standard. And you know, the the
Speaker 4: flea flicker play was a miscommunication. The deep ball to
Speaker 4: DK Metcalf was a bad throw, The interception to DJ
Speaker 4: Turner was just unlucky, and all of a sudden, Rogers
Speaker 4: is like, what do I got to do here?
Speaker 7: To work?
Speaker 4: And then the deep ball to friar Mouth. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you saw this. He's running off the field
Speaker 4: celebrating doing his thing and his tackle. Roderick Jones comes
Speaker 4: over to celebrate with him and kind of like tackles
Speaker 4: him and brings him down to the ground, and Rogers
Speaker 4: gets up matter in a wet hornet shoves him and
Speaker 4: it's like basically giving him you mf or why you
Speaker 4: tackling me? After a touchdown and just kind of bad
Speaker 4: vibes from Rogers lasts like the Achilles and stuff and
Speaker 4: that tush push.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even in the same time zone.
Speaker 4: No bit of an old dude that had to play
Speaker 4: on a Thursday night past his bedtime.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's a little cranky. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty jumping in
Speaker 1: this morning. The big Bungal went last night, and tired
Speaker 1: and happy is better than tired and pissed off, because
Speaker 1: that could have went that way with the Steelers taking
Speaker 1: a lead at the end of the game. But you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, there's it's as good as it was. We
Speaker 1: should celebrate this because, I mean, let's face it, the
Speaker 1: offensive line did what they had to do. Uh, guys
Speaker 1: showing up doing their jobs. I thought that, Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I mentioned Turner Hill. I thought they played a great game.
Speaker 1: But it's not like it's perfect by any means. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the tackling thing. I'm sick for the puck. I
Speaker 1: love hockey, so I started watching hockey this week. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, there's some Bengals players that would be
Speaker 1: better at hockey than tackling because they were checking guys
Speaker 1: they weren't tackling.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going through my notes again right now, and
Speaker 4: I have first drive, missed tackles, second drive, miss tackles,
Speaker 4: third drive, more miss tackles, fourth drive. These guys can't tackle,
Speaker 4: can't tackle, and you know, it just kept so many
Speaker 4: drives alive for Pittsburgh. It kept them on the field.
Speaker 4: And this is the basic stuff we're talking about, like
Speaker 4: can you get to the point of attack and wrap
Speaker 4: up why? And everybody on that defense struggles at it.
Speaker 1: I mean you guys, you know, yards after initial contact
Speaker 1: they got to be the worst in the leak they are.
Speaker 4: That's actually you know going into last night, that was
Speaker 4: one of the stats it was in Why I thought
Speaker 4: it could get ugly for the Bengals was because the
Speaker 4: Steelers led the NF and yards after catch going into
Speaker 4: last night, and the Bengals were the worst in the
Speaker 4: NFL allowing yards after catch going into last night. Now,
Speaker 4: they did keep things in front of them for the
Speaker 4: most part, and they did a good job of swarming
Speaker 4: to the ball, but it rarely, rarely felt like the
Speaker 4: first guy brought the guy down to the ground, and
Speaker 4: that sort of stuff you just can't allow to happen.
Speaker 4: Honest to god, I believe if Pittsburgh wanted to. They
Speaker 4: could have run that toss play to the right every
Speaker 4: single play and won the game. Yea, because you're getting
Speaker 4: guys out in space, you're making them you know, one
Speaker 4: on one situations and forcing them to tackle, and you're
Speaker 4: beating them to the to the edge. Pittsburgh had a
Speaker 4: really good game plan too, because they just used the boundary,
Speaker 4: use the sideline, get their guys out of space until
Speaker 4: until the Bengals proved that we can you know, they
Speaker 4: can tackle them.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep doing. The Bengals right defense was
Speaker 1: terrible again, So and that's something got to Clint just
Speaker 1: gashed right. But hey, take the win, get the momentum
Speaker 1: on your side. I don't know if you can fix
Speaker 1: the things we just talked about and how you fix
Speaker 1: the tax. Here's the thing you got to understand. Tackling
Speaker 1: like that against the New York Jets, that will get
Speaker 1: you beat. Everybody is already saying, oh, well, we got
Speaker 1: the Jets coming to town and they're win. Listen.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah, doesn't matter, you know. Twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's first year as the Bengals head coach, the
Speaker 4: Bengals I think were oh in eleven or oh to twelve,
Speaker 4: and the Jets came to town and the Bengals whooped
Speaker 4: their ass because the jets didn't play clean football. Zach
Speaker 4: Taylor's first career win. Same situation here Aaron Glenn, first
Speaker 4: time head coach with the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: He's coming in.
Speaker 4: Those dudes are mad, they've been embarrassed, they've lost some
Speaker 4: games they should have won, and here come the Bengals
Speaker 4: off of this big high of a Thursday night win
Speaker 4: trap game.
Speaker 1: If you tackle the.
Speaker 4: Way that you tackled, or if you attempt to tackle
Speaker 4: the way that you tackled against the Pittsburgh's dealers, you
Speaker 4: will get beat by the New York Jets. You cannot
Speaker 4: do that. That has to get cleaned up.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix that in a week.
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about all season for three seasons.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do it either, honestly clean
Speaker 4: that up and just how what they are they can't tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, the biggest culprit to me is Demetrius Knight,
Speaker 4: junior rookie line back. Everyone talks about how fast he
Speaker 4: is and how physical he is. But he never plays
Speaker 4: under control, and I would like to see him play
Speaker 4: under control and get to the point of attack. I
Speaker 4: don't know if he can be that player. Can he
Speaker 4: play fast and under control? And you know if he
Speaker 4: is under control, is he quick enough to compete in
Speaker 4: the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's a major issue, all right. Today at noon, it's
Speaker 1: Austin Elmore in ESPN fifteen thirty. What he got.
Speaker 4: We'll talked to Charlie Goldsmith, he was there last night.
Speaker 4: We'll get his perspective, reaction from the locker room, what
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco and Jamar Chase had to say, and so
Speaker 4: much more. It's a Friday football frenzy.
Speaker 1: I love it. Victory for the best thing out of
Speaker 1: this whole thing. The best thing I know I were late.
Speaker 1: The best thing out of this whole thing was the
Speaker 1: fact that Cleveland has been through twenty five quarterbacks. Wonder
Speaker 1: what they were twenty years and like he was in,
Speaker 1: Coaches Tomlins all pissed off about him to a division
Speaker 1: rifle and then Joe Flacco does that last night. Cleveland
Speaker 1: beat the beat the Steelers last night without even playing him.
Speaker 1: That's what happened, was a clean sweep. That's state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Give them another win, Give him another win in the division,
Speaker 1: Give him another win Austin. Appreciate you, home of the
Speaker 1: best Bengals coverage seven hundred ww Cincinnati, So only.
Speaker 12: I'm seven hundred wwim looking forward to maybe some rain
Speaker 12: this weekend because in my state right now, with my
Speaker 12: ankle surgery, because I had a little bit of a
Speaker 12: bone that was sticking out the cause they tendon to rupture,
Speaker 12: I'd have that shaved down.
Speaker 1: I'm in an ankle boot and crutches and a scooter
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable week at least, we hopefully less than
Speaker 1: a week. We'll find out why is that? Well, once
Speaker 1: you hit your fifties, your good friend osteoarthritis comes into play.
Speaker 1: All those issues. When you're in your forties, you go,
Speaker 1: oh man, what is that? Why does that hurt? When
Speaker 1: your thirties, you go, what's that creaking noise? In your twenties,
Speaker 1: you're doing all the stuff that causes where you get
Speaker 1: to where I am today, and you're popping advil like
Speaker 1: they're freaking baltoids like back in the day. Buddy. Good news, though,
Speaker 1: we have made some inroads into how to treat this
Speaker 1: and joining the show this morning from OHC on the
Speaker 1: West Side. There's also one in Kenwood too. Is doctor
Speaker 1: Matthew Burke with some interesting developments in treating arth right. Doc,
Speaker 1: Good morning, how are you?
Speaker 7: I'm doing well? How about yourself?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I wish I would have known this
Speaker 1: a while ago, although the treatment you're going to talk
Speaker 1: about it is relatively new. So you know, I had
Speaker 1: a shoulder, my joint replaced to my shoulder. I just
Speaker 1: had my ankle done. So I wish I could go
Speaker 1: back in time and have this ready for me.
Speaker 7: That's for sure. Unfortunately, you're not alone. There's a pretty
Speaker 7: common thang.
Speaker 1: I had fun weird out, at least I did that.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this. If you have that kind
Speaker 1: of pain and you're like, wow, my joint, my knee
Speaker 1: hurts my generally it's knee, wrist, hand, arm, back, shoulder. Certainly,
Speaker 1: it happens and presents all over the body. So I'm
Speaker 1: here about rollodse radiation. Of course, I'm thinking about the
Speaker 1: Manhattan Project, and I'm going, well, I know radiation is
Speaker 1: bad for me, Isn't it even low doses? Isn't it?
Speaker 1: Doesn't it add up in your body? Is there a
Speaker 1: concern that this could wind up causing more problems down
Speaker 1: the line, like speaking of which of cancers and the like,
Speaker 1: because you're being exposed to radiation. How does that work?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question to ask, and you know,
Speaker 7: was one of the things that kept us from kind
Speaker 7: of doing this on a more widespread scale until more recently,
Speaker 7: mostly because of that public procession out of the risk. Now,
Speaker 7: I think the key is the low dose. When we
Speaker 7: talk about low dose radiation therapy, we're talking about much
Speaker 7: much lower doses than we use to treat say cancer,
Speaker 7: for instance, And at these very low doses, there have
Speaker 7: been no proven side effects in terms of you know,
Speaker 7: secondary cancers or other risks to the tissues in that area,
Speaker 7: just because of the very low nature of radiation. So
Speaker 7: whereas it's something that we certainly worry about when we're
Speaker 7: giving higher doses for something like cancer, this is kind
Speaker 7: of a very different topic.
Speaker 1: How much different Let's say, you know, comparatively, speaking for
Speaker 1: the lay person, doctor, would the difference between let's say
Speaker 1: a typical X ray or imaging versus this treatment.
Speaker 7: So this is more on the order of a typical
Speaker 7: X ray or cat scan, except we're targeting a smaller
Speaker 7: part of the body. So when we think about radiational
Speaker 7: we have to think about the more much we give,
Speaker 7: but where we're giving it, and giving a small ghost
Speaker 7: radiation to a knee is a lot less risky than
Speaker 7: giving a whole body cat scan with contrast, so you
Speaker 7: know this this is a treatment that has kind of
Speaker 7: low risk on the level of the standard imaging that
Speaker 7: you think about going into the hospital for.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's probably like a I don't know, I've
Speaker 1: said the device, but stereotactic, so it's really it's directed
Speaker 1: towards that particular joint, not the whole body, correct.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so this is targeted. We focus on the joint
Speaker 7: and the whole joint space and not just that bone
Speaker 7: on bone like you were talking about before, but kind
Speaker 7: of all the fluid that surrounds the joint because it
Speaker 7: works as an anti inflammatory, so you know, kind of
Speaker 7: like you think of your your advils, your leaves, things
Speaker 7: like that that are meant to be anti inflammatory. Well,
Speaker 7: this does it kind of on a on a different
Speaker 7: kind of cellular level and targeting all those inflammatory you know,
Speaker 7: tissues and cells within that joint space to kind of
Speaker 7: turn that inflammation down. That's that's how this works.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So the cells, the lucas sites, all that the
Speaker 1: technical microfages and all that technical stuff that that's activated.
Speaker 1: Basically it does it temporarily bock that pathway what's going
Speaker 1: on inside my body with that.
Speaker 7: So it works on a level that is going to
Speaker 7: give you, most likely more longer lasting pain relief than
Speaker 7: you know, something like a topical gel or a pill
Speaker 7: that you take. Those downtime employmatories are only working for
Speaker 7: on the order of a few hours. Most of most
Speaker 7: of our patients that receive this treatment get pain relief
Speaker 7: anywhere on the order of you know, six months to
Speaker 7: two years or longer in terms of how how durable
Speaker 7: the treatment is.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Doctor Matthew Burkey is on He's a radiation oncologist
Speaker 1: at OHC and new therapy out for those who suffer
Speaker 1: from ostiarthritis, which is like, well pretty much anyone over
Speaker 1: the age of forty five. I think everyone's up. We're
Speaker 1: beating the hell of ours. Well, we're you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're exercising more. People are more active, younger people especially,
Speaker 1: But you know, I watch people do CrossFit and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and I try to remain very active myself.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because you know, the train you will
Speaker 1: of somebody will tell you is like it's just pain,
Speaker 1: is just temporary, Like not not when you're past fifty,
Speaker 1: it's pretty permanent. I'm gonna let you know. All the
Speaker 1: stuff you do now you think it's good for your body,
Speaker 1: You're gonna wind, You're gonna wear out some joints, and
Speaker 1: that's that's true. We're living longer too, So this arthritis
Speaker 1: and austri arthritis especially is absolutely booming and that's not
Speaker 1: a good thing. But low dose radiation therapy l d
Speaker 1: RT is what it's called. They do that at OHC.
Speaker 1: And I guess anyone over that age do you have
Speaker 1: to be presenting with symptoms? You know, if you say,
Speaker 1: am my shoulder hurts a little bit, Who's what's the
Speaker 1: range of I guess the typical patient that's indicated for Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 7: So you know, now every patient's different, obviously, but typically
Speaker 7: patients that we consider for this treatment are, you know,
Speaker 7: over the age of forty five and they have you know,
Speaker 7: persistent arthritis pain in you know, either a single or
Speaker 7: multiple joints, and typically they've already tried some more conservative measures,
Speaker 7: you know, like the rest or rehab. They've tried the
Speaker 7: topical pain relievers like the gels or the anti inflammatory pills,
Speaker 7: and then kind of along the same pathway where maybe
Speaker 7: you'd be considering joint injections or things like that. That's
Speaker 7: when you can start considering lotus radiation or arthritis relief
Speaker 7: before you get to the stage of requiring surgery. So
Speaker 7: it kind of fits in that same realm of you know,
Speaker 7: when you would be thinking about doing joint injections and
Speaker 7: you're kind of tired of popping those at.
Speaker 1: Bill got you. So for someone like me, where there's
Speaker 1: no differentiation between the ball and the socket and I
Speaker 1: don't find my humor is very funny, by the way,
Speaker 1: you can't fix that well.
Speaker 7: So I wouldn't say that because I do have some
Speaker 7: patients that for whatever reason aren't able to get a surgery,
Speaker 7: and they already do have you know, dramatic wear and
Speaker 7: tear on their joint to where they're bone on bone,
Speaker 7: and they do get relief, but sometimes that relief is
Speaker 7: not as long lasting because you can cause more inflammation
Speaker 7: quickly when there's bone on bone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense, all right, So how long does
Speaker 1: the procedure take? How many treatments do I need? What
Speaker 1: does that course?
Speaker 7: So, depending on the situation, we typically do between five
Speaker 7: and eight treatments of radiation. Each one is quite quick.
Speaker 7: It only lasts maybe five to ten minutes each session.
Speaker 7: There's nothing that you see or feel during radiation. It's
Speaker 7: kind of like getting a chest X ray or a
Speaker 7: cat stand. You're kind of laying there on a table
Speaker 7: and the machine's moving around you doing its thing, but
Speaker 7: the radiation itself is invisible and it's being targeted precisely
Speaker 7: at that joint while you're just laying there relaxed.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know that makes sense. So do you start
Speaker 1: to notice results right away? And how does that work?
Speaker 7: Most of the patients that I've treated start seeing results
Speaker 7: about halfway through their course of radiation, two or three
Speaker 7: treatments in. But a lot of times we see the
Speaker 7: biggest relief in the weeks after we're done that kind
Speaker 7: of delayed inflammatory blockage.
Speaker 1: Boy, it seems like this is the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 1: I mean, how long ago this was this discovered? And
Speaker 1: I'd imagine know you're probably treating patients for tumors and things,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Hey, by the way, this
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt anymore. And you know, often a medicine or
Speaker 1: a treatment is indicated for something else and you wind
Speaker 1: up going a whole different direction, right. I mean, it
Speaker 1: seems like every drug we have is like, well, it
Speaker 1: was for this, but it turns out it's going to
Speaker 1: fix something.
Speaker 7: Else for sure, And that kind of is how it
Speaker 7: first got developed. But this has actually been around for
Speaker 7: decades and it's in much more popular use in other
Speaker 7: parts of the world, in Europe and Germany for instance.
Speaker 7: You know, a large chunk of that radiation treatments they
Speaker 7: do are for benign conditions like arthritis or planet fasciatus
Speaker 7: rather than for cancer. It's just not been as popular
Speaker 7: in America, mostly because those you know, radiation safety concerns,
Speaker 7: like we talked about earlier in our conversation. And as
Speaker 7: we've kind of proven some of those you know to
Speaker 7: be uh, you know, not as big of a risk
Speaker 7: as you know originally was thought, a lot of us
Speaker 7: are trying to roll it out to the public to
Speaker 7: try to help more people here in America.
Speaker 1: Obviously, every drug, every procedure and intervention isn't always successful.
Speaker 1: We know that you're not going to bad a thousand,
Speaker 1: are I bet? But in this case, what what typically
Speaker 1: can I expect?
Speaker 7: So most of the data that you look at will
Speaker 7: show about a three out of four success rate in
Speaker 7: terms of uh, you know, noticeable pain relief where patients
Speaker 7: either require less medication or non medication or you know,
Speaker 7: are dramatically improved in terms of their pain. Our results
Speaker 7: have been similar to that, maybe a little bit higher,
Speaker 7: maybe more like four out of five. But you know,
Speaker 7: the the response rates have been really really reassuring to see,
Speaker 7: and you know it, it's been something where even some
Speaker 7: of my patients that were you know, self admitted doubters
Speaker 7: of the treatment that we're kind of at their end
Speaker 7: of their end of their rope and we're decided that
Speaker 7: they were going to give anything a shot, have been
Speaker 7: pleasantly surprised at the response they've gotten.
Speaker 1: This sounds like it's it's more successful than you know.
Speaker 1: For example, a knee joint, a lot of people are
Speaker 1: doing the knee gel and injected the VISCO supplementation I
Speaker 1: think is what it's called knee jail. That this is
Speaker 1: more successful than.
Speaker 7: That, I would say that they're pretty similar. It's hard
Speaker 7: to compare the two, because I don't have a clinical
Speaker 7: trial of point two that directly compares them. But I
Speaker 7: think our experience in terms of the benefit that we
Speaker 7: gets helped prior to the knee injections. In my personal experience,
Speaker 7: I think the duration or how long the treatment lasts,
Speaker 7: tends to be a little bit more of a durable
Speaker 7: or longer lasting treatment with the radiation compared to some
Speaker 7: of the knee injections, especially once you've done injections a
Speaker 7: few times, they sometimes kind of just wear off in
Speaker 7: terms of their effectiveness to do them over and over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, well, I mean steroid, you get three bites
Speaker 1: of the apple and that's it. So this is a
Speaker 1: more extreme version of that, and I think it is.
Speaker 1: But this it's got to show promise in a bunch
Speaker 1: of other areas as well when it comes to long
Speaker 1: lasting pain relief.
Speaker 7: Right, definitely. So arthritis is you know, a big one,
Speaker 7: and obviously, like you mentioned, it affects the majority of
Speaker 7: people that are a little bit older, but other things too,
Speaker 7: planet fasciatus and other more inflammatory related things can also
Speaker 7: be treated with the same technique.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very interesting. If a lot I can target
Speaker 1: that at people that caused me pain in problems that
Speaker 1: would be awesome.
Speaker 7: Took on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get on that. I don't know what you're doing
Speaker 1: this weekend, but I want to try to be more
Speaker 1: efficient here. Doctor Matthew Bertie is a radio radiation on colleges.
Speaker 1: He's at OHC I be live in the West Side,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about low dose RT ld RT low
Speaker 1: dose radiation therapy, which has been used in Europe for
Speaker 1: a while. It's been cleared here in the United States.
Speaker 1: People are a little leery about it, probably because they're
Speaker 1: talking about radiation. But we're seeing long lasting results for
Speaker 1: or ostiarthritis. So you've got knee or joint or back
Speaker 1: pain or elbow pain, whatever it is. And once you
Speaker 1: start to get in your forties, you start to learn
Speaker 1: about our good friend arthritis. And then when you're broke
Speaker 1: down an old like me, then you have to start
Speaker 1: getting joints replaced. This this won't stop that though, right
Speaker 1: this if you're doing something wrong or you're just inclined
Speaker 1: to osteoarthritis, my family is and that's why I am
Speaker 1: where I am. Uh. This isn't going to reverse anything, right,
Speaker 1: This is just a pain.
Speaker 7: Relief that's correct. Yeah, it's not. It's not going to
Speaker 7: build back the cartilage or build back any of the structure.
Speaker 7: And unfortunately, you know, wearing tear is a fact of
Speaker 7: life on the human body. But we're basically trying to
Speaker 7: slow down the inflammation and you know, slow down that
Speaker 7: rate of decline and you know, maybe you know, put
Speaker 7: off the knee for a surgery so longer in the future,
Speaker 7: or you know, prevent it altogether if possible.
Speaker 1: Well, not only that, I'm you know, people have cringey
Speaker 1: a little bit about radiation, and I get that, but
Speaker 1: in low doses it's we're not seeing long term effects
Speaker 1: and the build up in your body. But the other element,
Speaker 1: there's a clear and present age as we know about
Speaker 1: opioid addiction, and this to me is a much better
Speaker 1: alternative than getting on some sort of prescriptive medicine that
Speaker 1: could lead and ultimately cause my death or you know, imprisonment.
Speaker 1: God only knows what will happen. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of horror stories about that. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: Most people hear oxyconton are like, I don't want anything
Speaker 1: to do with it. This seems like a reasonable, non
Speaker 1: addictive habit. Forming alternative that's you don't have to take
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 7: For sure, And you know, i'd certainly encourage people to
Speaker 7: try things like the anti inflammatory medications if that's something
Speaker 7: that their doctor recommends. But the opiate medications are kind
Speaker 7: of a whole other class that you know, has kind
Speaker 7: of rightly gotten a little bit more of a concerning
Speaker 7: connotation in the public and something that you know, I
Speaker 7: think we should be rightly cautious of. And obviously radiation
Speaker 7: is not something that has addictive potential or some of
Speaker 7: the other bad effects that you can see with opiates.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is this uncovered by insurance? That's probably the other
Speaker 1: big question I would.
Speaker 3: Ask it is.
Speaker 7: So it's covered by Medicare, it's covered by private insurance.
Speaker 7: It's in their guidelines in terms of it being a
Speaker 7: safe and approved effective treatment. So we have not had
Speaker 7: any issues in terms of, you know, insurance approvals or
Speaker 7: problems like that.
Speaker 1: All right, Doctor Matthew Burkey at o HCOHC West, specifically
Speaker 1: as where your practice is located as a radiation and
Speaker 1: cologists and the benefit of low dose radiation therapy for
Speaker 1: joint pain. That's incredible, Hey, thanks for joining really interesting stuff,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you coming on this morning.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is an appropriate topic for
Speaker 1: a frind quite honestly, although you know you got to
Speaker 1: get out this weekend. The weather is not going to
Speaker 1: be the best for getting out and doing stuff. But man,
Speaker 1: we have a stretch of let's face it, you know,
Speaker 1: we got a little rank coming this weekend. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna wash everything out by any means, but yeah, we
Speaker 1: had a incredible stretch of weather right now. People are
Speaker 1: getting and doing stuff. And you know, when you're younger,
Speaker 1: you fall, you hurt yourself. You know, look at the
Speaker 1: game last night, players getting injured right and the like,
Speaker 1: and you know the stuff you do at this a
Speaker 1: when you're younger, in your twenties. The bill comes due
Speaker 1: in your forties and fifties. That's just the nature of it.
Speaker 1: So you know two schools I thought, don't do anything
Speaker 1: and die from well some illness, or do everything and
Speaker 1: get joints replaced in your bones ground down as I'm
Speaker 1: going through. So at some point the bill comes due,
Speaker 1: regardless for you are busy or you're not busy. So
Speaker 1: and then there's a lucky few freaks out there that
Speaker 1: can run marathons in their nineties. For crying out loud,
Speaker 1: you're a freak and no one likes you. We'll do
Speaker 1: a news update and when we switch it up, plenty
Speaker 1: to do, plenty to see, plenty to drink and eat.
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Speaker 1: means it's Friday, which is critical little nappy kind of
Speaker 1: day today because you stay up late to watch the
Speaker 1: Bengals game. Just got a little nappy in their future.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm I think I've got some energy
Speaker 5: from the game. I don't think I need an ap.
Speaker 1: How many times have we stand late to watch the
Speaker 1: Bengals and you feel like crap because they lost embarrassingly
Speaker 1: sore because when they scored it, when Fried with it
Speaker 1: that long touchdown at sixty air and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: stayed up for this.
Speaker 5: Well then Flacco coming in clutch.
Speaker 1: Coming in quick. But I looked at the clock after Caliams,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Michelle was like, oh man, they're gonna lose this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, Flacco is gonna They got
Speaker 1: a lot of time left.
Speaker 5: I love seeing, first of all, the face off of
Speaker 5: these two quarterbacks where you have Aaron Rodgers and Joe
Speaker 5: Flacco the senior quarter rolling through. But it was so good.
Speaker 5: It was so good. They're shake at the end, and
Speaker 5: he seemed calm, cool and collected the whole time.
Speaker 1: He really did, and he kind of knew it too.
Speaker 1: He was just like icy and icy hot, but icy
Speaker 1: cold maybe Joe cool. Two point zero. Because Rogers goes
Speaker 1: on the fields, they score, they go ahead, and then
Speaker 1: you look at it goes wait, this is Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: not like you feel like he's gonna go hey, okay,
Speaker 1: hold my insure and they go down the field and.
Speaker 5: There was just something about the plays just looked really clean,
Speaker 5: and they looked really quick, quick snacks.
Speaker 1: There's some things they still can't tackle and the can't
Speaker 1: really get to the quarterback. But you know what I.
Speaker 5: Think, right now, we just need an embrace win ovisional win.
Speaker 1: And I know plans are like we have, but they won,
Speaker 1: and they were in a great fashion.
Speaker 5: In a great fashion at home against the Dealers, and
Speaker 5: I feel like, right now, this is such a this
Speaker 5: is that was to me, it was a really crucial
Speaker 5: game because of just where we are in the season
Speaker 5: and if we would have lost that and not.
Speaker 1: That we need that's like the positive news are we now?
Speaker 1: Because had the Bendals lost, the other big story that
Speaker 1: we're over shadow probably is another fatal shooting. Yeah, downtown,
Speaker 1: how tired are you? Like literally right at right outside
Speaker 1: well in front of Great American There more but right
Speaker 1: off the gam like two.
Speaker 5: Am, And are you talking about all of them?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been a little bit. It's exhausting, it really is.
Speaker 1: That's why you're here. This morning because we don't talk
Speaker 1: about the heavy stuff on Friday. We took up with
Speaker 1: the fun stuff to do. Give me something fun to.
Speaker 5: Do, well, speaking about throwing long passes down a field,
Speaker 5: how about throwing paper planes in a brewery.
Speaker 1: They're having a paper plane battle.
Speaker 5: Listen to this. Okay, so it's called a paper plane
Speaker 5: Derby and it's not this Tuesday's two tuesdays from now
Speaker 5: at Ryan Guys. So October twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: Why are we telling this now.
Speaker 5: Because only twenty people are able to participate, and the
Speaker 5: sign ups are now, and if you don't participate, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be fun to watch no matter what. So there's
Speaker 5: twenty allotted spots, So sign up now. Where this is
Speaker 5: going is Cincy Scoop is partnering with Ryan Geist, which
Speaker 5: is a really really great space to do this in,
Speaker 5: and they're having this paper plane competition and the top
Speaker 5: three people are gonna get really cool prizes, nice and
Speaker 5: to lay on the plane. What you're gonna do is
Speaker 5: you're gonna roll up. You're gonna register. So register now
Speaker 5: if you go to Cincy Scoops and you check out
Speaker 5: their channel, which is really great on Instagram. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 5: have a link to the event. You could sign up
Speaker 5: that way, but you'll roll up at five. It's five
Speaker 5: thirty to eight thirty. Register at five thirty, and then
Speaker 5: you have an hour to build your paper play. So
Speaker 5: you don't get to go out and row an hour,
Speaker 5: only an hour. An hour to build your paper plane,
Speaker 5: hang out, drakes of beer, whatever, So then you start
Speaker 5: throwing at six thirty. Take an hour to b doesn't
Speaker 5: mean you have to show up your building folding.
Speaker 1: It's a sheet. It's like an eight x ten notebook.
Speaker 5: Science. Okay, well this is science, this is siety.
Speaker 1: I want a couple of these, have you?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 5: Why does that not surprise me?
Speaker 1: Love paper planes.
Speaker 5: We'll get to that story here in a second.
Speaker 1: I'm majored in that. That and teacher's talking to make
Speaker 1: a paper airplane.
Speaker 5: That and making Ramen out of a coffee pot.
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 1: That's my job. That's what I do. That's my contribution
Speaker 1: on the behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: Guy here the DIY have.
Speaker 1: Right, nice? So there's prizes. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: Yes, go and hang out. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 5: a lot of fun. You know, if you're not participating,
Speaker 5: it's a free event, drinks of beer, cheer on some people. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you'll go. If you are participating again, register now,
Speaker 5: you'll have an hour whenever after you register till six
Speaker 5: thirty to build your plane. And then you're gonna have
Speaker 5: two chances. And it's whoever and you're throwing it too,
Speaker 5: So whoever goes the furthest wins, and you're gonna have
Speaker 5: different rounds in different series.
Speaker 1: That's tough because bro, you got all those cross drafts
Speaker 1: and things. Yeah, be really careful.
Speaker 5: Really, they have those big ass fans.
Speaker 1: I know. It's like, well they'll have those offices. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't go go very far and you got a chance. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean twenty it seems like a lot of people
Speaker 1: are gonna register and they just draw twenty names.
Speaker 5: Well, so they have it's the first twenty two register.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm talking about it right now. But I
Speaker 5: think it could still be a really fun event to
Speaker 5: go to. And here's my thing. If I were to
Speaker 5: be rolling in the aisles of staples, you know there
Speaker 5: are different weights of paper.
Speaker 1: That's true, what's the weight? You gotta get the right weight.
Speaker 1: You can't really use like cardboard. But then you know,
Speaker 1: good old maybe just a little heavier bond than notebook paper.
Speaker 1: Seems to you got a little stiffness with a rigidity,
Speaker 1: but you got you got the weight factor.
Speaker 5: Too, And how many different ways can you find?
Speaker 1: Also, what's the humidity in that room? You gotta look
Speaker 1: at that. In the temperature, those are big factors there,
Speaker 1: prevailing winds, cross breezes. You've got a lot going on there.
Speaker 5: How many people if you have condensation from the beer
Speaker 5: on the glass on your.
Speaker 1: Hands, gonna throw things off, really throw off your throat,
Speaker 1: a lot of improblems. You got a factor in there.
Speaker 5: This is life or death here, missus ge aviation.
Speaker 1: All right, So that's a couple of weeks away. What
Speaker 1: do we got closer though? All right?
Speaker 5: Well to just launch off the weekend, we've got the
Speaker 5: Cincinnati Cyclones.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 5: They're back, looking forward to that starting tomorrow, their big
Speaker 5: home opener against the Wheeling West Virginia Nailers. Uh and
Speaker 5: the first five thousand Cyclones fans, they're gonna get a calendar.
Speaker 5: So that's gonna be their giveaway, their season calendar. I'm
Speaker 5: sure le don't have two dollars hot.
Speaker 1: Dogs all right? All right?
Speaker 5: And beer?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: It starts at seven thirty at Heritage Bank. Let's go,
Speaker 5: let's go, time to drop the puck.
Speaker 1: I love it hockey seasons. Here is watching some puck
Speaker 1: the other night as a matter of fact, So I
Speaker 1: love this. I love this Tommy year.
Speaker 5: And it's coughing season.
Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna ask you something else about the arena.
Speaker 1: I don't want to, oh get so one of the
Speaker 1: thoughts this week was, Hey, the arena and now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, out of nowhere, Msa says, you know,
Speaker 1: I think on second rend further of you, we can
Speaker 1: probably put it where the old arenas. Seems like somebody,
Speaker 1: I don't know, being Italian, maybe predisposed to this, but
Speaker 1: it's like somebody may be made like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put the arena where in the old spot
Speaker 1: is why do you figure out how to make it work?
Speaker 1: Why do you do a study and come up with
Speaker 1: what we want?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of money down on the banks
Speaker 1: and people want that. But but also like, okay, well
Speaker 1: then you got to blow up Heritage Bank Center. So
Speaker 1: then where does a clon? Where would the clones play
Speaker 1: for probably two seasons? What is sports plus you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: play the sports Plus, my nephew played hockey and been
Speaker 1: tons of games at sports. Plus, you can get like
Speaker 1: a hundred people there. Maybe could you do it across
Speaker 1: the river at Northern Kentucky? Where maybe could you do
Speaker 1: You have to bring portable ice. I suppose you can
Speaker 1: lay that surface down anywhere.
Speaker 5: Could you change Great American into a No, I don't
Speaker 5: think they're going to create a bubble somehow. There's a
Speaker 5: clearly enough field. You know how Cincinnatians are with weather
Speaker 5: the big NHL game outside.
Speaker 1: Of one game every game.
Speaker 5: This could be our time to make the news. If
Speaker 5: we want Cincinnati on the mout, we need to see
Speaker 5: the dedication of these fans. We're gonna build an ice
Speaker 5: rink a Great American, and we're gonna have a season
Speaker 5: long of games outside.
Speaker 1: I thought, least you know, people are shaking their head
Speaker 1: gun but never mind, will be at any of them?
Speaker 1: Of course, of course you want to. I guess you
Speaker 1: could just leave the rink up at Fountain Square.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's a dumb idea.
Speaker 1: We're on these skating three guys, we're to have a
Speaker 1: Fountain Square.
Speaker 5: I think we can figure it out.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be one on one hockey. What other inn door, Well,
Speaker 1: you've got North Northlanders up there. But again these are
Speaker 1: these are just you know, they're sheets. I would have
Speaker 1: to say, you'd probably have to do it in northern
Speaker 1: Kentucky would be the only place. I can't think anywhere
Speaker 1: someone said, well i'll have it up in date and
Speaker 1: you can play a date and like it's too fie.
Speaker 5: That is the tricky part of this because that location
Speaker 5: truly is ideal. Yeah, but yeah, in order to make
Speaker 5: it happen.
Speaker 1: All right, but that's again future stuff like paper airplanes.
Speaker 1: Yeah you said coffing season. You know, it means, right
Speaker 1: that you meet up with someone and then you break
Speaker 1: up by right after a valduch.
Speaker 5: It's really the convenience of weather, as we just said,
Speaker 5: as it starts to get cooler in October, it's probably
Speaker 5: like October to February. If you're getting lonely, you know,
Speaker 5: the days are shorter.
Speaker 1: Like a booty call with a little bit more romances.
Speaker 5: Yeah, with a little bit more romance. But where it
Speaker 5: gets tricky is if you decide to pair up with
Speaker 5: someone that you're like, well, the holidays are here, but
Speaker 5: you're not good enough to take around the family. You
Speaker 5: can figure that out. But you can lay those logistics
Speaker 5: out early. It's coffing season, but you could take your
Speaker 5: plus one to the Cyclones game or maybe the Pumpkin
Speaker 5: Fast because that's also happening this weekend. Braxton h pretty
Speaker 5: much every year they launched their pumpkin beer and they
Speaker 5: par they pair with graters and so they're doing it's
Speaker 5: called Pumpkin Patch and it's limited supply, so all week
Speaker 5: and long. And this is the Braxton in Covington, seventeenth,
Speaker 5: eighteenth and nineteenth and they're having things going on all weekend.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of I do enjoy the beers this time?
Speaker 1: You like that. I like the pumpkin ey beer, some
Speaker 1: blueberry and yeah, I'm not a big is this craft
Speaker 1: beer guy? No, I don't mind it. They're pretty good actually.
Speaker 1: And then there was some of the winter loggers and stuff.
Speaker 5: Is this an age thing because just a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago it's pretty anti flavor beers.
Speaker 1: No, No, And I'm looking at anti flavor, but it's
Speaker 1: not my preference. I My go to would just be
Speaker 1: a can and bringing old like the culture or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, like I have I wouldn't sit
Speaker 1: there and wow, I'm gonna drink two or three of these.
Speaker 1: I mix it up a little bit, but something by
Speaker 1: a yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, like the Bourbon
Speaker 1: Out beer that's pretty good, the Crisp Bear Yeah.
Speaker 5: With Akin Ale And this is your time left Braxton
Speaker 5: Grater's collab. So if you head over, if you're in
Speaker 5: Comington today actually in particular, would be a great day
Speaker 5: to go because have you ever heard of Wicked Designs? So,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you got to check him out on
Speaker 5: social somewhere. This is the guy that carves crazy, elaborate
Speaker 5: pumpkin designs.
Speaker 1: Okay, Like I've seen those guys before, like before they
Speaker 1: intro to the football game and they have yeah and
Speaker 1: then Michael Pumpkin.
Speaker 5: Yes your face and looks identical to your face. Right,
Speaker 5: So he's going to be there today from six to
Speaker 5: nine doing pumpkin carvings. They're gonna have live music all
Speaker 5: week and long, and then they're gonna do a pinal
Speaker 5: Pellette pino Pellette pumpkin painting station. Say that ten times
Speaker 5: past Saturday from noon to four. So that's just like
Speaker 5: a fun daytime thing, a little Sunday Funday so the
Speaker 5: Braxton Brewing Company com confess over in company Covington check
Speaker 5: it out. Also, if you're in Comington are you are
Speaker 5: you a tea drinker at all?
Speaker 1: Not really maybe iced tea.
Speaker 5: Have you had Macha?
Speaker 1: That's the one the looks like it's it's very green? Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1: Is that what? I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1: My daughter loves that. It's like, oh my god, Maacha
Speaker 1: with stuff with It's like dessert with tea in it.
Speaker 1: That stuff is Amazon that does that. It's the Parisian
Speaker 1: slash Vietnamese bakery. I feel like it's okay.
Speaker 5: The americanized version of it is turning it into a
Speaker 5: latte and dumping a whole bunch of sugar into it.
Speaker 5: But at its core, Macha is a green tea. It's
Speaker 5: a powdered green tea. But where I'm going with this?
Speaker 5: Also in Covington, Uh, there's a place called Little Macha
Speaker 5: that opened up and it was a really popular pop
Speaker 5: up spot for a long time and they finally got
Speaker 5: a brick and mortar and it's right by Smoke Justice.
Speaker 5: It's a new development. Are Yeah Asian known and sourced
Speaker 5: from small farms in Japan. And they serve three different types,
Speaker 5: three or four different types of tea. They do macha,
Speaker 5: ho chi jaw, and then jen gen Macha. I have
Speaker 5: not had the Hoch or the gen macha, but a
Speaker 5: lot of people know macha. So it's a finely powdered
Speaker 5: green tea and you like, crush it up, give me
Speaker 5: some Lipton, it's good. Here's the thing, and then you
Speaker 5: get sweeten it up. You can put it like cream,
Speaker 5: cream and sugar and turn it into a latte and
Speaker 5: do the whole thing. You can also make it. They
Speaker 5: do these macha classes, which is fun. But I'm bringing
Speaker 5: this up too because holidays are right around the corner,
Speaker 5: and if you know somebody that enjoys tea, they do
Speaker 5: little gift sets and things like that. That could be
Speaker 5: a good idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe grandma or your mom. All right, and
Speaker 1: put that down from Michelle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of good health benefits. So cold,
Speaker 5: it's chilly, and it's good for brain functioning.
Speaker 3: Chi.
Speaker 1: I mean I might have a nice cup of tea.
Speaker 1: Come on, my mom was a nice cup of tea late.
Speaker 1: I'm need a nice cup of tea. Tea is good
Speaker 1: for you. I'm not saying it's not. Once in a
Speaker 1: great while, maybe I'll have some tea especially okay, like
Speaker 1: maybef late afternoon. I got my caffeine cut offs about
Speaker 1: four o'clock yep, and so it's like, yeah, I need
Speaker 1: something more dcaf tea. They're a lot more decaff toffee.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a teacher. I look
Speaker 1: at a box of tea's in there, and I look
Speaker 1: through and I go, I'm looking for the one that's
Speaker 1: caffeine free and whatever looks caffeine free. Like I think
Speaker 1: this is caffeine free, and I have that one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like I don't know cinnamon or I know that
Speaker 1: like black tea is not to make this racist, but
Speaker 1: the black tea's got a lot of caffeine in it.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the white tea.
Speaker 5: Is there white tea?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Machia, I don't know about that. I'm like
Speaker 1: green tea has a little caffeine. I think. I think
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: The green teas where it's at. It's good.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for straight up decaf. That's it. When
Speaker 1: I drink tea, it's going to be like a decaf
Speaker 1: or if I'm sick. You got tea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's the it's the ginger lemon ones for me because.
Speaker 1: It helps your throat to orange water.
Speaker 5: That's good for you. Okay, there you go, little mach
Speaker 5: if you're over there, and then maybe pop over to
Speaker 5: smoke Justin's and have a bourbon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, we do have that, now,
Speaker 1: don't you're Machia Bourbon Perry. Yeah, yeah, matcha. Somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: do that at some point. Somebody's like a white tea cocktail.
Speaker 1: I've seen those before I ever had one, but oh, you.
Speaker 5: Know what, you actually bring a really good point. Some
Speaker 5: of my favorite cocktails over the last year or so
Speaker 5: are the ones who start and have a base of tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Michelle had one the other day. I don't forget
Speaker 1: where or where it was, but I knew it had
Speaker 1: tea in it.
Speaker 5: Hot.
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is hot Totti.
Speaker 5: We're approaching hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need the bourbon up. Doesn't that get rid
Speaker 1: of the alcohol? What's the point? No, because you don't.
Speaker 5: You make the tea first. It's fine, it's tea and bourbon.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just drinking the bourbon. I'm not drinking bourbon. Coffee,
Speaker 1: macha bourbon. I'm like, no, I just give it a bourbon.
Speaker 5: Maybe we'll do a warm like a warm bourbon cocktail.
Speaker 1: The bourbon tea. Just hold the bird, hold the tea
Speaker 1: and just I'll just take the burd Ali Martin at
Speaker 1: the Local Loop of course, check out her YouTube channel
Speaker 1: to the Local Loop and also at Ali Martine on
Speaker 1: social She's always got stuff going on over there. All right,
Speaker 1: you have a great weekend, always good catching up who
Speaker 1: day and think about your paper airplane design.
Speaker 5: I will yeah, engineering mind going, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I would be. I think exactly all right,
Speaker 1: So lots of fun stuff is always with Alice. Thanks again,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. We got to get Willy on the way
Speaker 1: in just a few minutes. He'll be wrapping up the
Speaker 1: big Bengals win last night. And of course we've got
Speaker 1: news on the way in just a few minutes. A
Speaker 1: fatal shooting last night, and that would be overshadowing everything
Speaker 1: I believe had the Bengals won. We just need some
Speaker 1: good news, and the good news is the weekends here
Speaker 1: in the Bengals one. So we'll leave it at that
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