WEBVTT - 10-17-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.720 Do you want to be an American? Here we go 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.639 slowly on a Friday morning on seven hundred WLW. Oh 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.320 my god, it's so good. The Browns have been so 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:17.239 bad for so long twenty five, six, seven, almost what 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.919 thirty quarterbacks now in the last twenty years. Terrible football team, 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.480 I mean, god awful. And they know they're not gonna 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.520 do anything this season, not a damn thing, and what 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.400 do they do? They still find a way to bone 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.200 the Steelers. It's the best. It is the best. Seeing 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.320 the dejected Steeler fans lead paycorps last night as the 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.280 Bengals went thirty three to thirty one. That is a 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.839 one game winning streak. Now three and four they're right 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.360 in the hunt, still behind Pittsburgh, but hey, you just 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.960 beat the boys on top. James Rapine is here work 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.120 on at about twenty five minutes of sleep from Bengals 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.080 Talk dot com Lockdown Bengals Every Day is Bengals Day 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.200 with James Rapine and the podcast. James. I know it's 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.520 hard getting up this early after but but it makes 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.960 it easier when when you win in that fashion too. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.680 I mean, can you imagine what Mike Tomlin was saying 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.520 on that long walk from the locker room, the Vision's 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.000 locker room to the bus. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:17.240 Yeah, so mad. He is so mad at the Browns 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.080 right now. So good you gave them Joe Flacco and 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:26.000 he dice? Is my defense up? And yeah? I mean 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:26.480 it's uh. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.120 It was a long walk from Mike Tomlin for sure, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.520 and a huge season saving win at least for now 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:35.200 for the Bengals. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.600 This feels like a season changing win. And the turning 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.600 point in that game to me was it's it's second 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.839 quarter and let me just look at the first quarter 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.240 for a second here. Right, We're watching the game and 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.120 there's some miscues with the Steelers. There's the I don't 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.160 know what was going with that fake flea flicker where 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.000 Flacca was yelling at his running back, and then interceptions 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.520 and penalties, but it's still ten nothing Pittsburgh Like this 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.520 is like Green Bay. Right, I'm to stay up and 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.640 invest time and get no sleep and watch this game 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.240 and to be so ticked off. I can't go to 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.080 bed because they had a chance and they blew it. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:11.160 But it's like seven of you know, Pittsburgh. Chase Mitch 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.919 is a catch, Brown drops the ball, Yosha Vas drops 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.160 another one. Mims is jumping on a hard count on 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.919 the same drive, no pass rush without Trey. This is 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.320 setting up to be disaster, right, But then Aaron Rodgers, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.240 I don't know what he's thinking, throws this ball for 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.840 DK Metcalf. Here comes DJ Turner, who has been balling 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.239 out this season, rips the ball away from one of 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.160 the best interceptions of the season. All of a sudden, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.000 the ball goes Cincinnati's way with what forty three seconds 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.400 left in the half, and all of a sudden, the 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.960 Bengals are in business. That that to me was like 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.120 the turning point for the I think taking the lead 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.000 for the first time since Burrow went down. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:50.600 Yeah, that's That's what's wild is the Bengals didn't get 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.320 off to a fast start. This wasn't prime time coming 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.760 out at home season on the line. You grabbed the 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.800 game right away, and it was the opposite. Steelers convert 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.320 two third downs, get a touchdown. Aaron Rodgers has over 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.520 eight seconds of the throw on their opening drive on 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.920 that that touchdown pass to start things to John Smith 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.000 and you're like, okay, defense, and that was kind of 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.760 a scene for the defense. And then on offense they 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.440 fun on fourth and four near midfield, and I'm like, Zach, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.000 why are you punting? And so they got off to 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.240 a slow start, and to your point, they're down ten 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.160 to nothing, and with four forty two left they swore 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.040 and they go on to score seventeen points and a 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.720 full forty two of the first half. And I just 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.480 want to note this and really hammer this home. They 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.960 hadn't scored a touchdown in the first half, Nope, since 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.760 Bill Burrow was healthy, and so for them to score 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.720 seventeen points, You're right. The defense Jurd and Battle had 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.920 the first interception, really nice catch on a redeep down field, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.160 really bad ball by Aaron Rodgers. And then DJ Turner 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.800 with an outstanding play. So the defense did step up 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.000 really for the only in that sequence there. And you 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.600 go from down ten to up seventeen to ten at 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.360 the half and you get the ball out ahead of time. 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.280 A huge turn of events there. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.480 Yeah, two great picks, and those guys are playing great, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.560 maybe more in them a little bit, and you know, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.360 watching game, all of a sudden momentums in the way 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.000 and then late in the game, right, Cincinnati scores on 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.279 what seven to the last eight drives, seven eight drives 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.920 except the one where it's second and twenty, there's less 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.360 than three minutes left. How do you lose Pat fire 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.440 move who's been carving you up. How do you lose 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.680 him for a sixty eight yard touchdown? That's inexplicable to me. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.760 Oh, you're right, you're right. You're not going to get 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.919 an argument for me here. The defense was awful. I 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.400 mean that they were really bad for the majority of 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.960 this game, and that is really unacceptable to give up 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:56.720 that play. And really, you look at it, three touchdowns 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.640 on four possessions. I'm not going to count the final 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.400 seven seconds even though they did have to make a 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.479 play there. Yeah, this day one in spite of their defense, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.159 which is why you trade for Joe Flacker. You know 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.880 your offantastic carry you you know this is a Jamar 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.520 Chase t Higgins, Chase Brown led team. In what we 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:15.360 saw it last night. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.400 I watched this team. You have twenty plus years and 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.599 we've seen the movie. It's like, now the Steelers go 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.880 up late and you've got to be kidding me because 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.719 they look so good down the stretch. We've seen this 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.880 movie a thousand times, James Rapine. But you know what 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.960 ten days ago, the guy who's wearing a Cleveland Browns 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.520 jersey a few hundred miles away, says, hold my insure, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.280 and he leads a drive with Flood. I mean, they've 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.040 got plenty of time life, and I watch this guy 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:44.040 just picked them apart, and Tea has this amazing selfless 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.640 play at the end and on that, I'll point a 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.000 Tea Gains finished with six touch of six catches for 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.880 ninety six yards in a tuddy he couldn't have gotten. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:54.800 He could have gotten too that one hundred yard mark, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.640 but he slides a few yards show to the goal 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:02.039 line to literally seal the win. Mean that was awesome, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.240 Yeah it was. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:09.440 And there's and j Morrison actually had a great breakdown 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:14.440 for us at bengalsbuck dot Com of this decision of 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.840 t Higgins and Jamar Chase talking about what he did 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.520 and what Jamar would have done in that spot, that 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.560 Taylor learning from the past and how that influenced their 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.360 decision to do what they did. And uh, yeah, I 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.360 think I think there are a lot of skill players 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.120 in the league, Scott that even if their coach tells 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.120 them to do that, naturally they just glide into the 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.240 end zone there because they're by themselves and it would 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.640 have been a real easy touchdown and they start dancing, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.080 and you have any doubt that Aaron Rodgers would have 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.960 drove down the field either won the game or tied 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:54.440 the game. And so yeah, too much time, We've seen 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.800 it too many times, and there just wasn't a competence 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.279 level in this defense. And so you combine all of 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.680 that with t Higgins's unselfishness, it's winning play, winning football, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.920 and that's what they need from their stars right now, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:08.920 and they got it last night. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.880 You know, we've been bashing on the offensive line so 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.000 far this season, but you really have without Trey Henderson 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:16.760 on the other side, which we'll get to in a second. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.560 So you know, the taal of two lines here, but 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.560 the offensive line in particular, Man, you got all the questions. 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.560 You know, Brown and Marius Mims. I'll be honest with 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.560 you. You got to give them credit. They played well enough 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:28.520 to win. They played pretty good. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:36.080 They did, they did, and I think Amaro Mens taking 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.120 away TJ. Watt to the majority of this game, I 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.400 mean I forgot t J. Watt was on the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.760 It was almost like, oh, well the Bengals are without 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.040 Trey Henderson and they can't get pressure, but neither can 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.840 t J Watt. And look when when that does happen 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.080 against that Steelers front, maybe get two sacks, but right 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.360 when you're able to limit them from a past rush point, 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.560 even though you throte forty seven times, that's an offensive 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.160 execution standpoint. Joe Joe Blacker's getting the ball out fast. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.400 But this offensive line deserves a ton of credit. I 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:11.800 agree with you. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.640 Dn Riisinger. On top of that, I mean, he you 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.200 know you didn't hear his name calls like man Baldon Riser. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.240 Daldon Riiser was a stud last night. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:24.120 He was, and that's what I saw because he's a 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:28.480 guy that you could have talked about months and months ago, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.560 and they signed him ten days before the season, and 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.840 then he gets tossed out there when Ludus Patrick gets 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.920 hurt week one and week two, he's had seven practices 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.720 under his belt and he's trying to hit you to 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.080 it and it's just it didn't look good. But the 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.079 past two weeks have looked much better. And I think 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.800 it's because he's got his football legs under him and 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.680 he's in football shape and much more comfortable in the offense. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.520 So yeah, I think he's played really well. And the 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.679 thing that we saw last night that we hadn't seen 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:00.560 all year long, his explosive runs were able to get 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.000 Chased Brown going. Yep, they didn't run the ball at time, 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.440 but eleven carries and you have a run thirty seven 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.040 yards and another round of twenty eight yards. That is 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.640 huge for this offensive. Run at huge for this offense. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.600 James the Rapine from sis bengalstock dot com and Lockdown 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:19.000 Bengals Only Daily Bengals podcast. How do you explain that? 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.120 Because so far heading into what week this week seven 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.640 worst running team in the National Football League, they had 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.160 only three hundred and forty yards on the ground, Chase 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.000 is averaging less than three perkusing two point seven per carry. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.800 Last night it was almost ten yards per carry. What happened? 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.640 I wish I wish, I wish I knew, Like what 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:46.880 the key is? I mean, I think one they gave 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:51.640 Chase daylight, but they were able to give him holes 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.920 that he could run through and not get hit. I mean, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.800 we've seen so many times this year he's getting hit 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.080 or having to cut or having to stop and start 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.800 right as he gets the football and that's just that's 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.160 never going to work. So for them to be the aggressor, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.240 to be physical, to out physical the Steelers, that's not 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.800 something that we're used to seeing. Right the out physical 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.679 the Steelers, Well they did, and it was able to 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.959 get Chase Brown up in space some I jp Ryan 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.360 had multiple good runs. And when you do that, then 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:27.640 it gives one It gives your offense an easy button 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.600 at times. It gives Joe Flacco options too. It just 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.440 keeps him upright and clean. So even though you're throwing 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.600 it forty seven times, it doesn't feel it that way 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.160 because you've had some big runs on the ground. I mean, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:43.079 their biggest plays got weren't just passing plays, and that's 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.040 rare for this Bengals team. They had the thirty eight 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:49.600 yards Higgins is long touchdowns, but they had multiple big 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.800 plays on the ground as well, which goes a long way. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.880 Yeah, and there were some holes too. I mean he 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.400 was he was hitting the seam and the line was 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.480 moving guys out of the way and away. We haven't 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.320 seen in weeks all the season. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.959 I dare I say on the on the season, You're right, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.920 I mean, his longest run entering last night's game was 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.560 thirteen yards and that happened five days ago in Green Bay. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:16.000 I mean, it has been a a bad running team. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.040 And one thing I do want to point out, and 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.520 it was kind of kind of the seam of the 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.000 night as far as getting off to a flow start. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.480 Chase Brown had a huge drop early in this game. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.760 That would have been a twenty plus yard game. Jamar, 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.480 Chase had a few drops early, Andrey. All these guys 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.520 rebounded to make huge, huge plays. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.280 Yeah, I think the conference came back. I saw Yoshi 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.079 dropped upon my goddamn and then he hit that when 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:40.439 it went down in the middle, I'm like, who, look, 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.440 he's thrown it to I saw eighty. I'm like, oh lord, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.480 please just catch the ball. And he did. You know, 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.800 they I think they shook the cobwebs out, like, hey, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.480 you know what, we can win this thing. They started 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.120 buying into what Flacco was doing. And you know, back 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.960 to Joe Flacco, just that steady, calm presence. We mentioned 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.400 that drive at the end of the game, you know, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.520 scripted out. You don't ramble the guy. He's just simply unflappable. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.400 And you look at this. I think it's gonna be 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:05.800 the story of the week in the NFL, and if 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.280 he keeps it up, it's going to be the Darling 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.640 story of the year. Thirty one forty seven, three hundred 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.880 and forty two yards, three touchdowns, no picks. He's now 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.880 amassed in his two games here unless than what today's 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.840 day ten. I think of the Joe Flacco era. Uh, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.560 five hundred and sixty one yards, five touchdowns, no picks 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.280 and a one hundred quarterback rating. That's not that's not 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.960 just like keeping the lights on until the other Joe 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.960 gets back. That's like playoff caliber football. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.959 Oh yeah, he's not keeping the lights on right now. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.640 He's powering the whole damn house. I mean, he's he's 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.360 the why you know, he's the why you believe, the 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.120 why you you think that this offense or this team 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.400 is capable of keeping a float and staying afloat without 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.040 Joe Burrow and maybe even making a run. And I 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:56.240 think that's the significance of last night's win. How they 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.560 did it with this offense, utilizing their best players, finding 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:04.160 away and the first place game in the division. It's 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.680 to me, at least right now, pretty easy to buy 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:11.840 into this team hanging around and being there at the 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.400 end because they were able to handle business against the 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:19.040 Steelers team that gave them fits in a lot of ways, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.280 and still they found a way to win with a 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:27.800 guy who had literally his first practice with eight days 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.440 before that game last night, and for him to play 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.320 two games and throw for five sixty one, five touchdowns 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:38.160 no pick in these past two games, it's really remarkable. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.640 I suppose to Dan Hordy yesterday and I said, you know, 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.800 I know you're going to say no, but it feels 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.440 like I must win yesterday. He said, of course not, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.440 because you know Steelers schedule is gonna be a lot harder. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.640 Arts gets a lot easier, and you beat a division up, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.800 but it's a division upon it. You fall three games back. Man, 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.320 you're doing the calculus on that going now you're expecting 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.880 other teams to lose, and we need these days you 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.640 can kind of start to control on Dustiny. I mean, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.280 three and four is nothing right home about, but you're 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.199 right there, especially in this division where it feels like 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.560 nine's gonna win it. But now the margins get really 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.320 really thin. And you know, we talked about the great 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.720 performance by one line, but the other line, the pass 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.680 rush was non existent. Forty one year old Aaron Rodgers 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.480 had all day to throw the ball. Now, I know 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.200 you didn't have Trey in there, you had Shamar Stewart 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.920 coming back from injury, but still you expected better from 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.640 that pass rush and just didn't get a last night. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.880 You know you didn't. You didn't defense a major disappointment. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:38.640 I mean, I'm I'm surprised that they weren't out outside 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.760 of the turnovers, able to get a stop here or there. Right, 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:47.560 I mean, that's not a great Steelers offense. They're they're fine, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.040 and they were able to limit dk metcast and so 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.280 if you say, all right, we're going to limit dk metcalft, 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.320 well you should be good. The problem is is Jamin 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.240 Warren is still probably breaking tackles right now, had a 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.320 huge game for the Steelers, and then Pat Pryers really 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.840 got going late. So yeah, you just you can't give 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.240 a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers that much time. When you do, 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.320 and you give him a running game, it's going to 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:17.200 be really, really tough to stop any offense. And so 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.840 they have to figure that out regardless of Trey. And 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.360 obviously you need Trey back. But if you don't have 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.160 Trey you still got to be able to find ways 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.520 to get pressure. They didn't last night. The good news 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.720 it's gotten. The one nice thing I can say about 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.280 the defense is they did force those two turnovers that 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.440 helped flip the momentum and put the Bengals in position 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.520 to take control of the game late in the second quarter. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.600 Yeah, I don't overshadow what was a spectacor when last 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.800 night thirty three thirty one at Peycorps, the stadium looked great. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.080 You know, the white out worked. Unlike the last game 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.360 where it was looked like an FC home game with 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.080 the Lions jerseys and stuff. This was legit and the 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.080 Bengals were able to hold on and pull this thing out. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.920 And now they've got momentum. And you got maybe a 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.040 little chip on your shoulder here too, because you start 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.080 looking at the schedule next up of the Jets and 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.920 they're terrible. Now you can't play down obviously, but man, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.880 you have some conferences are thinking they can turn this 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.440 into a multiple game win streak. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:13.560 Now, yes, I agree with that, and it's it's kind 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.680 of wild to think in these terms, but this kind 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.240 of shows you how Joe Flacco, his post Baltimore run 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.400 has gone. I attended a Bengals Jets game where Joe 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.840 Flacco was getting food and told to put him on 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.680 the bench and all of the things, all of the above, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:36.640 and so great for that to turn into what could 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.120 be a huge revenge game. That this the Bengals back 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.680 to five hundred, right, I think they're they're in good position. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.480 And by the way, I agree with you Dan Hord 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.640 hates the term must win, but it was a must 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.120 win Beals. They couldn't have felled a two and five 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.200 and realistically talk the playoffs. So it was a huge 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:58.800 win for the bank. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.600 I love how Cleveland set this whole thing up and 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.280 even though they can't win, like hand of the hand 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.160 grenade to us as they're dying and and said, here 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.200 you bomb. And that's what we did, right. We fragged 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.920 the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin and they making meet 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.000 those words about why the hell were That's that's why. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:20.040 Uhland wants to send Cincinnati. Is a little mild garrett too. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.200 Yeah, maybe we could use that, why not. Yeah, we'll 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.679 take there. We'll take a lot of the guys on 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:25.680 defunse straight up. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.520 He is James rapineover at Bengals Talk dot Com Lockdow 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.119 Bengals follow Subscribe James is the best answer to and 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:37.080 I heard, by the way, during the Amazon Prime pregame show. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.080 I heard your voice multiple times in the setup from Cincinnati. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.800 So you got a little national play last night? 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.920 How about that from me and mow On. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.040 It was crazy. That's pretty cool. James, all the best, buddy, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.359 Thanks for getting up, Thanks God, appreciating all the best. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.919 Quick time out the news in about four minutes and 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.800 we're return on the Scott Sloan Show. Okay, so no 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.679 football this weekend. What are you gonna do? Get some 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.920 stream I meaning movies to talk about with the buski. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.520 He's next for maybe see New York talks and entertainment 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.840 stuff on the Scott's Old Show seven hundred W or 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:11.480 the Here we Go Scott's Loo on Friday morning, seven 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.120 hundred a W. Lvety, Welcome to the weekend. Just abouts 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.679 and kind of jokingly, I was talking to James Rapeen. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.040 But the big Bengals win last night. If you went 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.480 down to Paker, what a beautiful night. Weather was great 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.360 on TV if you watch it on Prime like I did, 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.320 look great with white out the field look fantastic. The 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.400 uniforms are just the best in the NFL. I think there. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.760 I think those alternates, those the white and black stripes. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.959 The white strip's fantastic, and we look so good. And 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.880 fortunately we walk out of there with a win, because 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.280 I think if the Bengals had lost, we'd be They're 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.400 out of it, they're done whatever. And then we're back 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.119 to the tired story of homicides downtown, which we talk about, 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:51.920 you know, four days a week here on the show. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:53.679 In the station. Others are going to talk about it 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.760 all the time. There's only so much of that news 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.080 you could hear, you know, and it's important. It's important 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:00.760 talk about the police chief, what's going to happen in 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.120 the future, and get this election coming up, and will 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.520 things change? And you know, even if you're tired of 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.400 hearing about I think we all recognize and realize, even 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.719 if you don't live in Cincinnati, which is most people listening, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.479 the fact of the matter remains that is the heartbeat 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.560 of our community. And if you have shootings and death 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:21.479 in Mayhem on Fountain Square, which is the epicenter of 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:27.720 our region, it's just going to continue to deteriorate the city. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.640 No one's going to want to come down and we're 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.199 going to go back to the way we were in 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.200 the early two thousands, which if you're around back then, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.600 there was nothing going on down there. I mean literally 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.320 nine o'clock, the sidewalks were rolled up. There's nothing happened. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:41.879 There may be one or two bars down there. That 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.560 was it. There was nothing worthwhile going down downtown. We 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.600 had this huge renaissance, and here we are, and it 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.080 feels like a lot of these bozos are are forces 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.640 to go back in time, because that's how this all begins. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.280 And I see the street criminal bozos for sure, but 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.800 our leadership, or alleged leadership are like thereof So last night, 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.600 and had the Bengals lost, we'd probably be talking more 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:07.560 about the fatal shooting last night outside of bar downtown Cincinnati. 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.240 I think it was I want to say, so that's 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.520 Sycamore and Third, So that's what near the in between 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.400 there in between Around two am, I thought, okay, well 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:17.879 the game was over. I went to bed like right 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.720 around eleven o'clock, kind of late. And maybe you're hanging 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.280 around at the game and having a couple of drinks 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.800 after whatever, and so but there's still plenty of people 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.000 around the two am and the victim is a man 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.520 in his late twenties early thirties found dead inside a 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.119 BMW has pronounced that the scene somebody rolled up and 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.040 fired a bunch of shots in and then they took off. 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.960 But again, we have the sociopaths out there that simply 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.760 don't care that. Hey, you know what, there's there's families 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.080 out there, there's young kids out there at that time 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:47.040 of night simply because of Thursday night football. And this 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.680 is because you have some stupid beef. It's all about you. 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.320 The world revolves are on you. Yeah, I don't care. 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.600 You can blame Terry Thigi and fire her all you want. 0:20:54.640 --> 0:21:00.919 That's not on her. She is just say, you know, 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:02.200 we talked about this yesterday. 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:03.040 She is just. 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.359 On what's going on my phone here. She's basically just 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:09.880 a figure. You ain't getting caught up in the middle 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:14.480 of this whole thing. Could she do things better? Something's better? 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:14.920 Yeah? 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.520 Could some things be worse, I suppose, But that's not 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.120 the problem. You know, The problem starts at the top. 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.440 When you have this progressive priorities about what we want 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.800 our community to be relative to those people are committing crimes, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.000 that every criminal out there is somehow a victim. And 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.560 I think race is a huge component, you know, talking 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.399 about racism and this stuff with you know, Representative Dave 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.840 Young office with you know, with the swastik and things 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:40.960 like that. But and we'll get to that and do 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.920 time next week because that's still developing, which is scary. 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.560 But the fact that matter range is Okay, we can 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.720 talk about white racism young Republican racist, absolutely, but at 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:51.800 the same time, like you know, the notion that somehow 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.879 black people can't be racist, I think there's a lot 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.280 of racism happening within the people who are anti racist 0:21:58.320 --> 0:21:59.879 and they just don't see it though, And I pointed 0:21:59.920 --> 0:22:02.080 up people like Iris Rawley and the way she handles 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:05.520 police officers, said, every single person of color who has stopped, 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:07.480 even if there's a worn out for their rest, is 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.159 somehow a victim in an unjust system. And when that 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:14.479 is your worldview, how is that anymore or less racist 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.480 than what we're talking about with what's happening with young 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:23.720 Republicans who are in I guess in their h on 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:27.200 their communications between each other, How is that anymore or 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:31.240 less this you're influenced in public policy now, and I 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:33.639 think there's a huge component of this. Something happened. I 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:35.000 think last week I didn't get a chance to get 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:36.480 to it, And maybe we'll do it for Monday, because again, 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.920 Friday morning, I don't want to get into this other 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:41.280 than the fact that, you know, we had another fatal 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.399 shooting last night and literally putting a stain on the 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.240 wind last night in Cincinnati. I don't want to say that. 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.120 You know, the Bengals win is bigger than someone getting 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.719 shot to death. But we've had a steady drumbeat of 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.520 that kind of mayhem happening at our city center. And 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.600 I know we're all tired. I'm tired of talking about it, 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.679 You're tired about hearing it, We're tired about living it. 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.960 Everyone's just tired and exhausted, and so so it feels 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.399 good to talk about the Bengals beating our arch rivals, 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.280 or one of our art rivals anyway, with the help 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.480 of another arch rival, which is the story. And I 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.240 want overshadow that because we really need on this Friday morning, 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.760 damn it, we need something to celebrate for real, so 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.120 there'll be more time to talk about that. Another death 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.160 last night downtown more gunplay. Should that cost the chief 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:19.800 a job? I don't think so. I think it is 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.920 the policies that were established enforced by the chief, but 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:27.159 those policies were not set by her. You know what 0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:28.520 I'm saying. You got to go to the top for 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.000 this thing. And it's the guy who wants to be 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.359 re elected coming up in just a few short weeks, 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.280 and of course members a consul will enable that behavior 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.920 as well. And I think AFTAB is going to win. 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:39.919 But I think a lot of numbers of council are 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:41.800 going to be showing the door. We're not sure who, 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.600 but that's going to be interesting as well, because we've 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.800 got like twenty people running for those seats. We'll get 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:49.480 to that, probably pick it back up again Monday. And 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:50.880 I said, you know, I just wanted to point that out. 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.199 We did have a fatality downtown last night, another shooting, 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:55.840 another steady drumbeat of that, but it shouldn't overshadow the 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.840 fact that, hey, listen, we need to pimp, pump the brakes. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.639 It's Friday morning, lightened up a little bit, and we 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.879 can pick this back up again Monday, and safe to 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.880 say Monday there probably at this rate will be more 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.639 shootings Downtown News on the way in just a few minutes. 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:12.840 Mike Debiski is here from ABC New York. He's running 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.359 little late, so he begs your indulgence there, we'll catch up. 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:17.960 We got some movies out this week. I know Tron 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.920 hit last week seems to be fading. New Ethan Hawke 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.200 and Julia Roberts movie out as well too, in painting 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.200 homage to a rock and roll legend. Next on The 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.720 Scotts Long Show, seven hundred WLW. Saw me on seven 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.760 hundred WLWL light Year. We made our connections. 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:32.919 Oh. 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.400 Mike Debuski is here from ABC News in New York. 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.280 He helps cover entertainment for US. Mike, good morning. How 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.600 are we doing in how are you? I'm doing fine. 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:44.080 A'ce Frayley dying at seventy two seventy four? What did 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:45.919 I see yesterday? I just wanted to note that for 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.040 the Kiss fans out there and part of my generation indeed, 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.239 But I think he tripped in a studio and had 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:52.520 a brain bleed, which is scary. 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.959 Yeah, yeah, definitely, and the rock world is mourning that 0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.680 in a pretty big way. Obviously, Kiss, you know, known 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.640 for countless hits and their distinctive visual style. Yeah, Ace 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.840 freely passing away in a very sudden and tragic way. 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.040 Big New York guy, where you are too, back in 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.320 the New York groove, so to speak. So yeah, yeah, 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:17.119 let's talk movie related stuff. I know Tron was supposed 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.000 to be. Tron was a big one last weekend? Did 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:19.960 that carry over this week? 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:20.080 How? 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:20.400 It too? 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.159 Not particularly well, falling about ten million dollars short of 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.520 what analysts had been expecting during its opening weekend last weekend. This, 0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.240 of course is the big sci fi epic from Disney, 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.199 Jared leto Greta Lee starring in this, but you know, 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.160 really just failed to connect with the movie going public. 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:39.879 In a really big way. 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:45.080 Disney has not really done a consistent Tron franchise. The 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.919 original movie obviously came back, came out in the early 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.159 eighties starring Jeff Bridges, and then they followed that up 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.840 in twenty ten with Tron Legacy. That was a pretty 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.000 modest hit, making about four undred million dollars or so 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.960 globally when all was said and done. But yeah, coming 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.480 back to the franchise now fifteen years later did not 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.600 seem to connect. I think something that's going to be 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.720 interesting this weekend as tron enters its second weekend of release, 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.720 is to see if it stays at the top of 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.040 the weekend box office. We're kind of in an interesting, 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.040 sort of softer period for the box office right now, 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.240 not you know, a defined hit coming down the line 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.439 until a little bit later into November. So will Tron 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.400 win again this weekend or will it be a newcomer 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.520 something like The Black Phone two. 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.040 This is a horror movie that's new this weekend. 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.560 Starts Ethan hawk At, the follow up to the twenty 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.560 twenty one film The Black Phone. 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.639 And it's a you know, an adult film. 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.600 It's not going to necessarily bring in a ton of 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.159 you know, young kids or anything like that. But the 0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:45.280 first Black Phone was a pretty successful film on a 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.840 pretty modest budget, and it was able to you know, 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.200 raak in about twenty three million dollars or so back 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.240 in twenty one, when you know, theaters were still reeling 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.240 from the COVID nineteen pandemic. For what it's worth, Black 0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.600 Phone two tracking for about twenty five to thirty million 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.920 dollars in its opening weekends. That would be enough to 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.200 knock tron Arias down to the number two slot. 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.120 All right, and plus say, you know, we've got Halloween 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.240 coming up, so good time to roll out a even 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:09.800 if it is a. 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.920 Sequel, exactly exactly, and this is very much leaning into 0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.560 some of the classic Halloween themes, right you know. 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:18.600 This is a. 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.280 Movie where the serial killer known as the Grabber, he 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.080 wears that very scary mask in the first movie. He 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.520 comes back in the dream of some of the characters 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.360 in this new movie. So heavily influenced by the Nightmare 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.480 on Elm Street franchise and Freddy Krueger of it All, 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.199 but also kind of the works of Stephen King. This 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.760 is set in the early nineteen eighties, kind of has 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.320 a very Stephen King kind of aesthetic to it in 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.040 the filmmaking and in the image crafting. So it's something 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.600 to keep an eye out for. And it comes from Blumhouse, 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.760 which is a sort of well known and well liked 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.920 horror studio. Their strategy has always been to go wide 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.199 and go cheap right, make a lot of stuff on 0:27:58.240 --> 0:27:59.360 a modest budget, and. 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:00.960 See if any thing hits. 0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.840 They have been able to ride that strategy to success 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.080 with really big hits like get Out and the New 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.440 Halloween franchise. The Perge franchise as well. But this year 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.639 they've kind of been a little softer than maybe they 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.000 would have wanted with movies like Megan two point zero 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:22.200 and you know other films including you know, things like. 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.639 The Wolfman and The Woman in the Yard. 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.640 They kind of fell short of expectations, so they're looking 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:28.600 for a hit this weekend. 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.080 All right, Black Phone too. I did see the trailer. 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:32.840 I don't know what to make of it. Julia Robert 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:34.679 Tander Garfield. After the Hunt? What is that? 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.560 Yeah? After the Hunt is a new movie from Luca Guadanino, 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.200 who has been working really hard the last few years. 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.400 He's been putting out two or three movies a year. 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.280 Last year was Challengers, which was that kind of very 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:50.280 sensual tennis movie that starts Zenda. Also Queer, which is 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:54.120 based on the Augustin Burrows novel you know that starred 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.880 Daniel Craig as well. Now he's following it up with 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.560 a college campus drama where Julie Roberts and Andrew Garfield 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.920 play college professors who are up for ten yere one 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.560 ten year splot and one of their students played by 0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.480 Io Edabiri from The Bear, comes forward and accuses Andrew 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.920 Garfield of sexual assault, and it gets into the he said, 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.160 she said, who do you believe? What are these relationships 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.800 really at the end of the day, kind of campus 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.080 politics of it all. People who've got a chance to 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.479 see it early left very divided on this movie. They 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.440 either loved it or they hated it. A lot of 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.000 people really do seem to hate it. However, I was 0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.239 able to see it early and I walked away kind 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.480 of impressed. It is not a movie that leaves you 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.520 with any easy answers by any stretch of the imagination. 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.200 But I also think it's a topic that is very 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.960 nuanced and requires you to ask a lot of questions 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.520 of it. So maybe not the most satisfying movie going 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.640 experience if you're just looking for a kind of good 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.640 time at the movies, But it's definitely one to chew 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.040 on after the Hunt. And it's you know, scored by 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.680 Trent Reznor and atticust Ross, who of course are have 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.560 scored movies like The Social Network. Also, uh, you know, 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.080 one of them went on to score tron Aris, so 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:06.320 the score is pretty good as well. 0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.680 Yeah, Nine Shells making the making a run here the Hollywood. 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.400 The last couple of weeks. That's the reason to go 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:16.520 see trot Aries. I'll be honest. It was pretty hard. 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.160 That's good raging out with nine inch nails. 0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:19.840 Uh. 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.200 Small screen stuff I did get into because I've been 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.880 nursing my ankle surgery and so having a lot of 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.680 time to watch us. I started getting in The Black 0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.520 Rabbit on Netflix Jason Bateman, Jude Law and it's that 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.760 is a slow burn, Like you watched it first episode, 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.880 like I don't know. My wife laught, She's like, this 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.160 is stupid. I gave it a couple episodes. It picked 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:37.480 up really well. So if you're looking for something on 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.600 the small screen, you may want to get on. It's 0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.960 not like the best Jason Jason. There's there's some elements 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.600 of Ozark to it, but it's it's not bad. 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.520 Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had a chance to see that yet, 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.440 but I've heard pretty good reviews again of slow Burn. 0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.400 You know, this is a thing that this prestige TV 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:59.120 era really does fall into where you ask yourself the question, 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.240 It's like, okay, this eight episodes. You know, maybe we 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.280 build something really special by the end of the season, 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.000 But would this have bitten better as a movie? I 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.200 think that's a question that a lot of these sort 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:13.360 of short form, you know, prestige series really do ask themselves. 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.480 But then again, you know, some things are made for TV. 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.200 It sounds like this one is. It sounds like it 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.080 is rewarding to spend time with these characters, Jude Law, 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.200 Jason Bateman. Of course, always a pleasure to see them 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.920 on screen. And it seems like a pretty twisty thriller 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.240 set in the world of kind of high end dining 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:27.960 in New York City. 0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.480 Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool at worth it if you're 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.120 looking for some But again, it's a slow play. It 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:33.920 takes a while to get going. Mike Debuski in New 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.880 York at Michael Lubuski, thanks for jumping in this morning 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.800 with the entertainment stuff. Appreciate you. Yep, of course they 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.480 can have a great weekend, buddy. Thanks again. It's a 0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.840 Scott Sloan show on seven hundred WLW. And play us 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.240 out Ace Friley for a second. 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:48.440 Here. 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.800 Ace Fraley Dad at seventy four, original league guitarist of Kiss, 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.880 and he passed away because he was in the studio 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.840 and fell down. I just think just a week or 0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:02.600 two ago and suffered Brainley, and of course it's seventy 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.640 four that's not too recoverable. And his family and friends 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:07.840 were with him when he passed away. Founding member of 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.120 Kiss with Gene Simmons, Peter Chris on drums, and Paul 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.680 Stanley of course, and just absolutely shredded some of the 0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.719 most classicalicks in rock and roll you heard from his 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.600 guitar for more than a decade, about a decade right 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.280 from seventy three to eighty two. He had some substance 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.480 abuse problems, left the group creative issues of course, and 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.680 then how much of that was the drugs talking, and 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.600 he left and did some solo stuff. Freyley's comment back 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.800 in the New York Groove was a good jam and 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.760 of course came back together with Kiss and Na when 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.440 Doctor and rocking on his Heart of Fame in twenty fourteen. 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.920 That stuff, but Ace Frayley passing away I think NTROD 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.800 twenty four So the quarter of the original Kiss and 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.960 Kiss army has left the room, left the big stadium 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.560 in the sky, so to speak. We'll get the news 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.080 update in here momentarily and then return at ten oh six. 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.960 Got some stuff happening in and around Cincinnati, A little 0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.600 bit lighter on this Friday morning. I know the big 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.880 story today, of course, involves death, mayhemond destruction outside of 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.520 the Bengals destroying the Steelers. And I love the fact 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.040 that Cleveland right now is laughing. It was like the 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.000 dying comrade hitting us the live grenade we tossed with 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.160 the enemy at the Pittsburgh Steelers last night, giving us 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.240 Joe Flacco at Seth Coach Mike Tomlin and the Steelers 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.000 off yesterday or two days ago, as I guess I 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.360 should say, he was upset because why would you trade 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.280 why would you do this into a division team to 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:28.840 screw Pittsburgh? So macu luck Cleveland with Cleveland, Cincinnati, the 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.600 Ohio Bros keeping it real and going okay, our season 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:34.120 is lost yet again with Cleveland. 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.400 If you guys still kind of hat, you have a chance, 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.160 burrow may pumeback and we'll give you Joe Flacco for 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:43.440 a song, just please please feed Pittsburgh and the Bengals 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:44.880 pulled it off last night at Pakor. 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:46.960 I love it. You wonder what Mike tom was thinking 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.400 of that long walk from the visitors locker room, the 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.160 cold shower out to the nighttime, the air walking on 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.680 that bus. What the hell was going for? Nuke Tomsy 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:58.280 I think it was fantastic. Thank you Cleveland, Cleveland A 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:02.440 debt of gratitude this morning, for sure, no doubt about it. 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.680 It's a Scott Sloan show. This is the home of 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:13.279 the best Bengals coverage. Seven hundred WW Sincinnat American Friday Morning, 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.319 flowing back with you on seven hundred WLW savoring and 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.920 the delicious tiredness of a who Day win, which is 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.160 the opposite we've had in the past and Friday mornings. 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.320 I like to talk about a variety of different things 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.319 and not all newsy or I should say bad news. 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.600 He related some of this good news out there, believe 0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.920 or not, despite what we've been talking about, including last 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.240 night shooting, and that would be this. We're making progress 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:36.040 in a lot of areas. 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:36.239 You know. 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.759 We talked about the Duke Energy Convention Center going back 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.960 online and that's going to reopen, and the hotel is 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.279 about to be started as well, and then you talk about, hey, 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.720 maybe a new arena, and of course the Brent Spence 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.240 Bridge project is just about to be in full swing. 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.279 It'll be Orange Barrel Hell for a few years. But 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.040 the end result is worth it. No more traffic jams 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.120 and mayhem over the Ohio River. But to do all 0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.000 those things you did and you still need in the future, 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.759 you will need bodies to do it. And of course 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.600 one of my causes here on the show is construction trades. 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.440 I'm a I'm a sick of fan for it because 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.520 I realized that not everyone should go to school. I 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.160 was one of those people, you know, but I got 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:14.640 in back in the day when nell you needed was 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.359 a check and a number two pencil, And today it's 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.239 a lot harder. The stakes are much higher, and we 0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.200 know people are going into debt and now they're looking 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.359 for the government and US taxpayer to bail them out 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.800 because the model is broken. So what about the trades? 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.840 Don't we understand we're making some inroads here locally, but 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.360 at the same time, there's so much more to do. 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.360 And on that is John strawser my buddy John Strasser, 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.320 former CEO of Valley Interior Systems and Spirit of Construction 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.960 fellow board member for a long time. He's been doing 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.360 it since two thousand and three. And Amanda Smith is 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.120 the executive director of the Spirit of Construction Foundation. Welcome guys, 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:52.120 how are you? How's everybody? Amanda? Welcome in? Who Day Baby? 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.759 Who Day? Got a man? As Mike on Dave Turn? 0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.000 Is that it is that? 0:35:59.120 --> 0:35:59.279 It? 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:00.560 Hi? Hi? 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.160 Yeah, I don't know. It's technology. We have no idea 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:04.560 what we're doing over here at l W. We have 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.880 no idea. We're really bad at it. We're in communications business. 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:09.440 How are you doing? We're not very good at it. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:11.680 Good to have you, guys. How's everything? John? I know 0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:16.160 you're at the game last night? Wonderful? Yeah, yeah, well 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.359 worth the late evening, Yeah, gotcha, And it was fun 0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.280 to watch on TV. So I got to bed before 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.879 you did. But anyway, let's start with the need. First 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.359 of all, I know that we've made progress, and I'll 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.120 start with you in this genre real quick, and then 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.719 we may progress in getting people in the trades are 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.040 starting to but there's still a lot more to be done, right. 0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.759 There's a lot to be done with the retirement age 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.239 coming down a little bit in the trades and the 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:44.200 shortage of people getting interested in the trades. Last check 0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.759 I saw was we're sure about a million trades people 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:47.800 across the United States. 0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.560 Yeah, yeah, and a number continues to grow despite younger 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.200 people going, hey, I want to get into the trades 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.360 as well. I brought that opportunity in Cincinnati. Is that 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.280 you know, we hear about, hey, there's no job opportunity, 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.520 there's no opportunity for and what do you expect when 0:36:58.560 --> 0:36:59.719 kids are going to go in the street and try 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.480 to will make money. And we see these shootings and 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.440 it's all related stupid beefs and they're not working, and 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.080 they're getting off the bus. And we've got all the 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.280 job we're building the bridge right now about to embark 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.640 on this great You're gonna need thousands of jobs out there. 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.560 I mean, I've said this before to the influence of 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.799 decision makers and the shit stakeholders are going, well, we 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.680 just need more job. There's jobs right that. Literally, you 0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.960 guys will train people and put them to work the 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:23.560 same day, won't you. We will. 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.080 And we're actually starting in the fifth grade to starting 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.680 you see kids through the trades, through some of the 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.400 curriculum we're dealing with, and we're getting exposed to educated 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.400 towards and trained to have a job, a job ready 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:36.359 come senior year. 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.399 Yeah, And there's no outline either. It's like we hook 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:40.920 you up with the tools, we get to the training, 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.879 we've shown the job, you're making money. My nephew who 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.160 moved here from Oregon is is going to iced to 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.600 be an electrician, and so he works during the day 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:51.600 and then a night or two a week they send 0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.480 him to school to learn how to become an electrician. 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.439 He doesn't pay for anything, he's making money along the way. 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.880 And there's so many of those opportunities out there. Heating, ventilating, 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:00.839 air conditioning. Work with my guys of the grimmy group, 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.400 same thing. They do classes there to teach people with 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.879 daycon how to do AC and within eight weeks they're 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.680 on the job. They're making money. Plenty opportunities like that 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.759 in Cincinnati, and I'm so tired of hearing about there's 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:12.400 no opportunity. 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:16.719 Yeah, the opportunities are you name the trade, plumbers, electricians, 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.719 mechanical painters, finishers. I mean, everybody needs workers right now. 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.759 And the push to get the kids exposed is making 0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:26.640 making a big difference. 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.640 Yeah. Really, let's turn to the Spirit of Construction Foundation, Amanda, 0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.520 where you come in, where we came in to try 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.960 and bridge that app with scholarships and learning and getting 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.600 programs and schools. Let's start with that. I know when 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.759 I was a board member with John, I know the 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.360 big thing was, hey, we got in a woodward, you know, 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.719 we got shopped through the class back. But that's grown 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.359 beyond that, right absolutely. 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.520 So the Spirit of Construction was started back in nineteen 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.200 ninety six as a way to recognize and celebrate the 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.880 construction industry, and that was initially done through our annual 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.080 Gay Law and John here actually is one of our 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.920 Lifetime Achievemental winners this year. So every year at the 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.120 annual Gala, we give out a Lifetime Achievement Award. 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.520 What makes John's award. 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.160 So special this year is that his dad also won 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.960 the Lifetime Achievement war back in nineteen ninety nine, so 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:17.040 he's actually a second generation lifetime honorees. So we're very 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.759 excited to celebrate John at our gala this year. 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.160 So what you're saying is John's old John. 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.800 I'm saying John's a big deal, is what I'm saying. 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:29.080 Johnson amazing his ego, he knows what we know, what 0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.880 he's done. But it just means you're It's just a 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.000 nice way of saying, damn, you're old or a buffalo 0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:34.920 at a lot of people. 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.719 Now, no one's more deserving because because honestly working alongside 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.880 you for a few years and just watching you the machine, 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.319 that's the chancet. I mean he really, John's the guy 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.319 who really drove this whole thing. And that's it's really 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.880 cool to see and it's a well deserved. So congratulations. 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:48.680 So we're excited. 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.399 So what started out as having an annual gala has 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.520 grown into what it is today. And so beyond the Gala, 0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:00.719 which is our major fundraiser, all net proceeds from that 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.920 gala go to three buckets of work that we invest in, scholarships, 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:09.359 workforce development, and we give out mini grants to nonprofits 0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.879 focused on workforce development within the construction industry, right. 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.040 And those grants are nice because you look at the 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.880 organizations and that benefit from that is you know, it's 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.040 girls Scouts. So you go through the list here of 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.880 organizations that get that and go, hey, we're putting these 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.839 programs in. We're doing summer school, like a class where 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.200 kids can do hands on building stuff and you know, 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.120 use power tools from Milwaukee and you know, drill holes 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.400 and boards and see how buildings are put together. And 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.160 when you have the house, a hands on kid right, 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.759 there's more tactile than than just sitting there and wrote memborization. 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:42.919 Had you done that for me, I think I would 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.359 be I would have been in the trades. And I've 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.239 been doing this, which a lot of people listening and say, well, 0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.000 I really wish we could do that, and that's the 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.160 way back machine. But some of us learn just by 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:54.000 looking at it. And we're finally doing that. We're finally 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.600 learning how to teach and reach these kids. And you wonder, John, 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.839 how many kids over the years may have dropped out 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.520 of school or said I, I I, this isn't for 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.200 me because we're just sitting there. And it's the same 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.200 way we all learned is here's a teacher, here's a 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.320 white board or blackboard. You're gonna have to memorize this. 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.440 Look in the book. It's all theory. You put the 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.840 practical thing into it, the matter. This is why you 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.000 need shop math, for example, which you helped get into schools. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.000 It's reaching so many kids who had fallen though the 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:18.200 cracks before. It's incredible. 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.760 Yeah, we're teaching kids how to take a tape measure 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.680 and say half inch plus three quarters is one and 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.000 a quarter. You and I understand that because we use 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.080 a tape measure almost every day in the jobs, and 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.040 the trades were the work we're doing around our homes, 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.279 and by getting the kids exposed to this, we think 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.040 that it's close to fifty percent of every student in 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:35.480 the classroom as a visual learner. 0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:36.960 Yeah, not a book learner. 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.880 And the school system does not teach or focus on 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.239 these kind of kids. And now that we're doing it, 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.479 we're gaining the opportunity putting a tape measure in their hand. 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.840 Their eyes are opening up, they're understanding, they're looking up 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.880 into the sky at this and understanding that hey, science 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.759 ties in with math and now as SUD their grades 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.920 are accelerating their attending class and it's making a difference. 0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.359 Yeah, like algebra, I don't know numbers and letters, why 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.279 do they need to go together? But you know, you 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.520 start doing calculations, you start doing like your roof, slopes 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.399 and stairs, and it's like, oh, I get it. Now 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.240 this is where it's applicable in the real world. And 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.359 there was never that connection we're going to school and 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:11.960 now there is. 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.640 Yeah, and it's making a big difference. In the end, 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.319 we're seeing kids come into the trades now with a 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.239 direct impact. Now, it takes time. I mean, when you 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.520 start teaching in fifth grade, you know you've got a 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.560 seven year process to get them through where they become 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.840 the correct nation to being hired. But we're now, after 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.719 the years of work we put in, we're starting to 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.160 have kids now make that jump to the trades. 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.839 Yeah. Again, it's a man a Smith, the executive rector 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.680 of Spiritual Construction Foundation, and John Strasser, the former CEO 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.759 of Valley Interiors here in Cincinnati, but they're all over 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.480 the state. A board member there since two thousand and three, 0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.080 and he's gonna be an honoree this year at the gala, 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:47.480 which is coming up on the twenty. 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.680 Fifth, Right, that's right next Saturday, full house, full house, 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.600 record number thirteen hundred folks done at the Northern Kentucky 0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.360 Convention Center. Next year is our thirtieth annual gala. 0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.319 So we're excited about that, yep. 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.719 But all proceeds from the gala actually are reinvested as 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:07.319 a foundation. We are a funder and we reinvest those 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.480 dollars back into workforce development within the trades in construction. 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.400 Part of the scholarships you have went in at like 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.840 like seven hundred thousand dollars of the years in scholarships, 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:15.600 that's right. 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.200 So we've been doing scholarships since two thousand and four. 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.440 We started by giving out scholarships at University of Cincinnati. 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.160 This year alone, we gave out twenty five scholarships seventy 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:29.000 eight thousand dollars, and those scholarships are first students at 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.640 NKU and UC that are looking at construction management Cincinnati 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.520 State as well, and then we also give scholarships to 0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.799 military veterans that are looking at getting into construction. And 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.960 for the first time ever this year, we gave out 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:48.320 skilled trade scholarships, so that's anyone that's interested in getting 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.520 enrolled or as an incentive to keep them enrolled in 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.359 skilled trades. So we're really proud of our scholarship program. 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.520 Since two thousand and four, we've given out two hundred 0:43:58.520 --> 0:43:59.959 and seventy eight scholarships. 0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.400 And it's cool now because you get people fighting for 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.040 the scholarship and saying, hey, we're doing this this and 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:06.239 it's not a being war, but you know, you want 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.080 to see where the best bang for the bucket's going 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.680 to be. But it makes all those entities be sharp 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.960 at what they're doing. Their focus of course, is getting 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.000 young people in the construction straates, and I'm so happy 0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.360 to see that we are getting fifth graders now interested 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.880 in there. It used to be a tough sell to 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:23.080 school public schools in Cincinnati, John, where they're like, yeah, 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.000 you know, we were finding the way where no, you're not. 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:26.920 You're missing all these kids and you just it's so 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.359 sad to me to think over the years how many 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.839 kids were lost that they may have turned to a life. 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.359 I mean, let's face it, you know, you fall through 0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.120 the cracks, you drop on a school life is it's 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:35.839 not going to work out for you, and chances are 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.359 going to depend on the system or in one way 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.560 or the other. And we know what the outcome is. 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.839 I mean, look at the violence happening in Cincinnati, and 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:44.520 you wonder how many of those young lives could have 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.799 been reached years before if we would have done this. 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.799 But the good news is we're making progress. So let's 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:51.600 talk about the expansion in the public schools and the 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.200 light because I mentioned Woodward and the light bulb went 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:55.520 off for I think a lot of people when they 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.759 heard and this is years ago, and you'd be able 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.479 to articulate this better than I but I recall going, hey, 0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:03.640 these are kids are like on the margins, probably not 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:05.800 doing well. All of a sudden we're teaching the trades, 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.279 shop class, shop, math and stuff like that, and they 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:11.600 went from literally on the borderline to dropping out to 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.319 being among the best performers in the school in the 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.000 school itself as far as acadomicsgo. 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.759 In twenty seventeen is when we started the program at 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:22.040 Woodward and the first eleven students that were put into 0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:26.840 the program were very high risk. Two of the eleven 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.400 dropped out of school fairly quick. The other nine continue 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:34.680 through the program and graduated four years later. Seven went 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.759 into the trades, two actually went into nursing, and one 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.400 of the nine end up top five of the class 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.040 academically cool. And it was all because of the math program. 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.920 Yeah, because they could see it now and I think 0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.799 that literally goes. I know it kept getting back to that, 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.960 but that's a big thing, I think, to get those mind, 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.480 the hearts and mind change. And then when you see 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.879 the educators go wow, okay, well maybe we're missing something here. 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.360 Now it's spread like wildfire. 0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:00.279 Yeah, we started it Woodward and teachers were talking to 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:05.200 other teachers at other school systems and maybe eight years 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.840 later we're in thirty one school systems. That's unreal throughout 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.279 Good Ohio and northern Conti. 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:10.960 So it's making a comeback, but we still have a 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.840 long way to go, right, Amanda. That's the thing is 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.600 with the scholarship and the attention, the spirit of Construction Foundation, 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.239 there's just so much more work. So this is just 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.160 just the start of things. I mean, thirty one schools 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.439 from one is a lot in just a few short years, 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.279 less than a decade. But you know, you want to 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.080 see that number in one hundreds now absolutely. How do 0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:26.480 you do that? 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.400 Well, one of the ways is that we are making 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:35.920 investments in workforce development programs. Specifically, as we've mentioned, we're 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.520 targeting kids that are in middle school in northern Kentucky. 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.680 We supported a program called Trades Northern Kentucky. It started 0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.520 out in Campbell County schools reaching about two hundred and 0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:50.439 seventy middle schoolers. With our support and matching dollars from 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.879 b and KY, they're now in Kenton County schools and 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:58.120 in Homes Middle School they're reaching over six hundred kids. 0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.719 And that's again providing cure to the students about what 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.160 is skilled trades, what does a career path look like? 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.759 And then for the very first time, Trades in Northern 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:12.080 Kentucky is having a Skilled Trades career Fair in April 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.160 of twenty six. And again, we just want to continue 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:19.640 to provide exposure to students that, you know, as you 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.319 guys have talked about our visual learners, maybe not you know, 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.239 planning on going to college. But we want to tell 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.480 the kids, but not only the kids, their parents that 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.399 skilled trades is a viable career path where you can 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.400 make great money and have a really great future and 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:36.000 great career if you pick it. 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.960 Do you feel like because of these students, don't let 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:42.319 the student debt and the long crisis and a host 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.480 of other factors, that parents are starting to maybe wake 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:46.799 up that way because on that long ago where and 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:48.600 a lot of parents, there's some parents still do this. 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.919 They look at their success as a parent by where 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:53.880 the kid goes to college, and not as that's right. 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:55.440 I mean there's still that stigma out there like, oh, 0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.080 my kid doesn't go to college and he or she 0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.879 as shame and somehow it's shameful, and it's all that's 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.000 marketing is all that is. Are we starting to win 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.000 that war of attrition or starting to win that war. 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:09.680 That the trades are noble and also a very enriching area. 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:11.440 To go absolutely, and I think it's all about dollars 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.359 and cents too. If we can show them that your 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:18.840 child can earn to learn through an apprenticeship program, so 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:22.560 right out of high school, they're making money, they're not encouraging, 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.920 they're not incurring college debt, and they're making a really 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.600 great wage. I think that's the story that we have 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:34.320 to get to parents that it's it's an exciting, honorable 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.040 career that a lot of people, you know, find great 0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.640 joy in and it's okay to not go to college. 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.480 And so not only are we trying to tell the 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.560 kids that, but we also need to tell their parents 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:48.120 that as well. 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.720 Yeah, and hopefully that model is changing, that the value 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.600 of parenthood is not like where my kid went to school, 0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:54.600 or where I'm going to school, or you know, where 0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.360 the degree is from. It's rather the fact is like 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.279 are you being productive? You know, can you afford a 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.680 middle class or professon lifestyle. And a lot of folks 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.400 who are in the trades right it's like, hey, you know, 0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.799 the light bulb goes off like my nephew's in electrical now, 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.440 And I said, you know, when you're my age, though, 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.280 you want to be the guy who owns the place 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.920 that is hiring other electricians Like John, You're a family 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:15.560 business at Valianteer. You know what I'm saying. But how 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:19.560 many guys do that and women now that are learning 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.560 and becoming masters of what they do, but then branching 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.640 off and doing their own thing. That's American dream. Yeah. 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:25.960 The stories are numerous, and we at the gala next 0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:29.120 weekend over thirty years of Lifetime Achievement Award winners. The 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.759 stories were all about I had a pickup truck, I 0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:33.960 went to the banker and got a ten thousand dollars 0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.319 loan and created a you know, a company that hires 0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:41.120 five hundred people. Yeah, so the stories are endless. It's just, 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.839 you know, most contractors are very humble and don't toot 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.600 their horn, and most people don't understand the opportunities that 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:49.200 exist within the construction industry. 0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.560 Yeah yeah, yeah, I think Jostin for example, and you 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:54.880 know the Smithman family, same thing. It's like, hey, we 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.120 started this thing and they're growing and growing in company. 0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.279 It happens all the time. Like these these people will leave, 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:01.600 you know, folks will leave a company, or they'll get 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:03.399 some experience in trades and wind up doing their own 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.520 thing and grow, which turns out to be the future. 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.360 Companies will be board members and have seats at the 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.520 table the future spiritual construction. So it's an awesome thing 0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.120 to see. So you know, if you have the wherewith 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.400 all the knowledge a little bit of luck on your 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.759 side too, you can achieve these great things. And there's 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:19.600 so many people. That always strikes me that when we 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.320 do the event, and again it's the twenty fifth, and 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:24.479 how many people are like, yeah, high school, you don't 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.640 you know, you don't need a doctorate in construction. I mean, 0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:30.439 it's nice to we have that stuff right, architectural to grow, okay, 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.279 but a lot of those folks are like, yeah, I 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.239 was swinging a hammer, or I was you know, I 0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:36.800 was using a shovel, or I was doing heavy equipment 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:38.879 and just kind of grew into this thing. And here 0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.240 we are today and now when playing hundreds of people, it's. 0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:42.719 Great and a lot of people, you know, it's it's 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.799 a very generous group of people. Also, I mean, next 0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.400 weekend we're looking at raising I think one point one million. 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:52.080 Dollars to give back to the trades, right right. 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:56.080 And this is all homegrown in Cincinnati companies that are 0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:58.160 that are supporting what we're doing. 0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:00.799 Yeah, before you got to get a plug in real 0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.680 quick for the beer because that's really really good. That's 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.680 one of the coolest partnerships collabs. As a kid say today, 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:10.560 Spirit of Construction and Blueprint. That's right. 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:15.160 So last spring, this past spring, we launched a beer 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:19.520 with Braxton. It's called Braxton Blueprint, and proceeds from the 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.040 sales of the beer actually come back to the Spirit 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:25.880 and we're going to reinvest in workforce development. The beer 0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:29.840 can be found at Kroger, Party Source independent liquor stores. 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:34.320 So go out and buy a fifteen pack called Blueprint 0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:35.640 by braxstild. 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:36.839 Print Bybacks, which by the way, I have a fifty. 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:38.440 I have some in my fridge at home for that 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:40.680 very reason. Support the cause. And if you see that, 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:43.440 go and it's really actually really good beer. Really they 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.560 brag did a great job. We're there for the rollout. 0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:47.520 Got to get going. But again I know that the 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:50.320 gala is sold up, But congratulations John in your lifetime achievement. 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.280 It's well deserved. My buddy John Strasser and Amanda Smith, 0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.439 who of course now is the executive director of Spirit 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.920 Construction Foundation popping in their gala happens on the twenty fifth, 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:00.480 But just wanted to lay out all the great work. Well, 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.120 those bad news are having and this is good news, 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.279 like this is solving the problem of generational poverty and 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.640 the problems we face in downtown Cincinnati, but also enabling 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:10.960 young people to realize that like hey, listen, not the 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.959 best epic academic in the orld, but there's a chance 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.440 for you to be extremely successful in life. It doesn't 0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:17.319 mean where you go to college. It's just you got 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.120 to continue your learning. Some of us learn differently than others, 0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.719 and we'll recognize that. And the growth has been tremendous 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.160 here in Cincinnati. So really proud of that for you guys. 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.400 Congratulations and thanks again for coming in. Thank you for 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:28.680 having me. I have a great weekend. I got to 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.440 get a news break in. We'll find out what's happening 0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:32.440 in around the world. Win to return. Austin is here. 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:34.880 It's time for a little sports. We'll talk Hooday, Hooday 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.160 and more. Hooday is the Bengals and we should tip 0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.760 a hat to our brothers and sisters in Cleveland because 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.840 together we are Ohio strong and Ohio proud. That the 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:45.240 Browns may not win a game the rest of the season, 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.319 but they still beat the Steelers yesterday at pay Course 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:59.880 seven hundred WLW. Here we go, Hoo Day Friday, not 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.840 Day Monday? Who Day Friday? On the Home of the 0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:06.839 Best Bengals coverage, seven hundred WLW. Did you have hope 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.040 and faith last night? Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty 0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:14.239 Was there hope in faith? Uh? 0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.840 Honestly, I don't know that I've I ever really feel 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.480 that way, to be honest, Like, there were a couple 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:23.600 of moments where they had a chance to go win 0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.319 the game on offense, and the first drive they kind 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.560 of urinated down their leg. The second drive they found 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.359 a way to go get points. But you know, it's 0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.640 it's the universal, you know, feeling of a Cincinnati sports 0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:37.799 fan is how is this going to go wrong? And 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.680 that's kind of what I was feeling, Yeah, because that 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:43.120 first quarter, right, it's not like the Steelers are light 0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.680 up that the fake flea flicker whatever happened? Who was 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:49.719 yelling at this running bags communications and interceptions, but you know, 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:51.920 at the end of the it's still ten nothing Pittsburgh. 0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.200 And on top of that, you know Jamar Chase missus 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.759 a catch, Brown drops which should have been a thirty 0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.200 yard game. Yosivas drops it other ball like he's gonna 0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:02.760 be on bench with Cam Taylor Bread. 0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:06.319 Or without men Trey Hendrickson as well. Yeah, no pass 0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.799 rush whatsoever. I'm like, oh my god, this is not 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:10.200 going to be good. And then all of a sudden, 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:12.600 all of a sudden, I think what changed it was. 0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:15.000 The turning point of this thing is that interception. DK 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.239 Metcalf goes up for the ball and it was one 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.680 of the best picks you're going to see by DJ Turner, 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:20.799 who's been having a great year. 0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:24.720 I would say even the interception before that first play 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:28.480 of the drive and Rogers takes a deep shot and 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.640 when you really go back and look at that throw 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:34.279 was awful. I can understand, throw it up to your 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:36.640 big guy take a shot on first down, but the 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.879 throw wasn't even close. Wasn't even a competitive throw from 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.680 Aaron Rodgers. And to Jordan Battle's credit, he was all 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.400 over to maximize on a mistake. Bengals get a touchdown. 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.319 Immediately following that, they start to find their rhythm. Then 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.440 DJ Turner makes that interception you're talking about, which is 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.520 a ridiculous steal the ball away, get my foot down 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.520 falling out of bounds, and the Bengals turn that into points. 0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:02.160 So it's not often you get two gifts interceptions from 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.799 Aaron Rodgers, and it's even less often that you turn 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:05.920 that into fourteen points. 0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:07.080 That was the key to the game. I know, hell, 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:09.560 we're right because Metcalf gets picked by you're right battle, 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.000 But then it was Chase Brown had his great run 0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:15.240 and then t scores. It's like, wait, what just happened? 0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.439 Yeah, for time to a leads and Burrow went down, 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:21.040 flipped the switch very quickly, and it felt like, Okay, 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.840 they're taking control a little bit here. They're maximizing on 0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.680 the mistakes of the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're not relying on 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.480 their defense as much, and they're controlling the clock. And 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.440 that drive after the first interception, where they able to 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.000 run the football consistently and drain a little bit of 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.160 clock and get into the end zone. That was the 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:38.920 sign of things to come, and hopefully a sign of 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:41.759 things to come for the future. Because when you run 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.520 the football, it opens everything else up. And last night 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:47.800 there was a threat of the Bengals being able to 0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:51.200 run the ball, and because of that, Jamar Chase ran free, 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:54.080 t Higgins ran free, Andrey Yoshivas had a big thirty 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:57.719 nine interception Noah off of a play action late in 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.960 the game gets them into Pittsburgh territory. It opens up 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.360 the rest of the offense when you have even the 0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:05.960 smallest threat of being able to run the ball. 0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.279 I know this is kiss Flacco's aast day on the show, 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:10.880 on it, but we should be because I mean, honestly, 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:12.960 you know, here's the guy. He's been with them. Now 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:15.839 today is the tenth day he's at a Bengal. At 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:18.799 ten days. Yeah, he's what thirty one to forty seven 0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:21.680 last night, three hundred and forty two yards, three touchdowns, 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.680 not won an interception. So he's over five hundred yards, 0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:27.680 five tds and no iron t's in two games and 0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.439 the quarterback rating over one hundred. That's not just like hey, 0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:32.520 can they hang around and get it done until Joe 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:36.440 one gets back? This is like all right, yeah, this 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:37.840 is he's really good. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.239 This was the vision, Like you know, there was a 0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:42.840 list yesterday that came out of all the different quarterbacks 0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:46.520 that the Bengals looked at and considered and finally landing 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.560 on Flacco and looking at that list, I don't know 0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:51.759 how many of them would be able to do what 0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.640 he did last night. He's got this perfect mix of 0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:58.359 veteran presence. Yeah, and is this perfect mix of being 0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:03.000 aggressive but not reckless, and also getting the ball out quickly. 0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.440 It's finding a good completion but also not settling for 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:09.520 stuff behind the behind the sticks, Like there were multiple 0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.480 times third and ten or longer where Flacco threw the 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.040 ball past the first down marker trying to get a 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.480 first down and completed them. And how many times do 0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:19.720 we complain about that as Bengals fans. Oh, it's third 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:21.760 and ten and you throw a four yard slant and 0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:25.760 you're putting. Like the aggressiveness from Flacco, I thought did 0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.480 a great job of towing that line. And I think 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.760 Zach Taylor deserves a lot of credit. I think we'll 0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.840 go ahead. I think Zach Taylor called his best game 0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:37.320 as a play caller since they beat the Buffalo Bills 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.400 in the playoffs a couple of years ago. Like he 0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:42.640 had great feel he had great balance. Everything worked off 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.360 of one another. There were RPOs, there were quick game, 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:47.840 there was some wrinkles into the run game. 0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:50.480 Zach did a great job. Yeah, I think what that 0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:52.919 note too. I was like, at the end of the game, 0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:57.280 that is the greatest call that Taylor's had this season, 0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:00.000 and that would be bootleg Joe Flacco. And it turns 0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:02.640 out Flacco was like, yeah, I was supposed to Yeah, yeah, 0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:05.000 because he calls it. I did that on my own, right, 0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:06.560 what Yeah? 0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:11.360 I immediately shaped I thought, what all shades of Ryan 0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.680 Finley against the Steelers on a Monday Night a couple 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.440 of years ago, where he just keeps the ball and 0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:18.600 runs and basically ice is the game. And I was like, 0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.160 oh my god, they just did the Ryan Finley with 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.200 Joe Flacco. And then come to find out, Flaco's like, 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:25.320 I can't burn a time out. 0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:27.120 I don't want to take a delay a game. Screw it. 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:29.200 I'll just run it myself. And he did and he 0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:33.080 got twelve dollars. Just like they're looking I forget who 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:35.480 which player was for. They they're bocking and they're pushing 0:58:35.480 --> 0:58:37.440 there and he's running the other way and he does like. 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:42.880 The Scooby doo double take what And here's Joe crawling 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.280 like a like just get ten. 0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:50.160 Baby, and that the stadium reaction to that was awesome. 0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:51.800 It was so good. People are high five. And then 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:55.400 there's hope in Cincinnati once again. Austin Elmore from ESPN 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.760 fifteen thirty on the Show this morning on seven hundred 0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.840 w welw uh. They score on seven of eight drives, 0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:04.680 excess and where were you though? Steelers take the late 0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.560 lead and you could almost feel it coming. Yeah, and 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:09.840 I'm watching this game and it's like, sure enough. The 0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:13.480 one drive that they don't score on they give it 0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:17.400 to Pat Fryermuth wat sixty. I don't know why he's 0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.000 that open at this point in the game, there's so 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.000 much on the line and basically walks in the end 0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:22.800 z on. They're like second and twenty, I think, with 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.680 under three minutes left. Yeah, and at the moment, you're 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.080 like typical Bengals, right, But I didn't think that. I'm 0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:30.000 I went the minute they score, I looked down at 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:32.480 the clock and went, I think we're still going to 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:35.280 win this because you scored a little too quickly. 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:37.720 Yeah, I think it is what it came down to, 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:41.840 and it gave the Bengals a chance to run that 0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:45.600 two minute offense and not get out of cont like 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.080 they still had time to run the ball, they still 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:50.680 had time to do those play actions, like they didn't 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:52.680 have to just go into a full spread it out 0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:56.640 work the sideline type of situation where you're relying on 0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.720 on Flacco and your past your past blockers to really 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.720 be perfect, and so because of that, you were able 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:04.560 to just kind of operate the offense the way you 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:07.560 normally would and the most, you know, the best play 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:09.760 of the night was the deep ball to T Higgins 1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:13.480 and he slides down inside the ten. And that basically 1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:17.920 number one is respect for Aaron Rodgers. It's also understanding 1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:21.160 that your defense can't stop anybody, and it keeps you 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.400 in control of the game and forces Pittsburgh to start 1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:26.720 using timeouts. It was an unselfish, brilliant play by T. 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:27.240 Higgins. 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.520 And on top of that, again, I keep going back 1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:31.720 to the play call. They didn't get conservative. 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:31.920 No. 1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:33.320 In that situation. 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:36.560 Zach Taylor's dialing up a deep ball and T Higgins 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:37.360 goes and gets it, and. 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:39.360 He goes sideline. He does that cut in and slides 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:42.840 down and makes a great catch in all the credit 1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:45.080 the world of the play calling too, But to me, 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:47.640 that's the catch of the game because t Higgins could 1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:49.919 have went in the end zone because he's four yards 1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:52.520 short of one hundred. Yeah right, and players pay attention. Sure, 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.240 and he's like, no, I gotta go down because we can. 1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:56.960 I'm gonna make them burn their talents. We're gonna win 1:00:56.960 --> 1:01:00.000 this football game. And that was like, to me, was selflessness. 1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:03.800 His tee zones overshadowed by Jamar great play, but that 1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:05.440 was the play of the game for me. 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:08.120 Yeah, and again, I think it speaks to the culture 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:12.400 of Okay, it's really not about anything else, it's about winning. 1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:15.280 Jamar Chase was asked after the game, you know, would 1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:17.280 that have been hard for you to do in that 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:19.400 moment to slide down, And he's like, no, not if 1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:21.800 you want to win, Like like there wasn't even a 1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:24.320 second thought, not even a hesitation. And it made you 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:27.960 feel like, Okay, the Bengals are prepared, they understand the situation, 1:01:28.320 --> 1:01:32.360 they're smart, they are unselfish. Those qualities are all very 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.920 important in a football team. Now, if they could tackle, 1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:37.040 that'd be great, right, Well, if they could run the 1:01:37.040 --> 1:01:40.200 ball more consistently, that'd be great, But in those moments 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:42.520 where you got to win the football game by doing 1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:44.200 the little stuff, they did it right. 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:47.280 One final point on that too, Austin Olmore, is that 1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:51.800 he is like the He's like the quarterback therapy dog. 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.520 Flacco is in that this team. I mean, look at 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.200 the beginning of the first started the game, right, Guys 1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:58.959 are dropping balls, Yoshavak drops another one, Chase had an 1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:02.320 easy catch across the middle, even Chase dropped one. Guys 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:05.480 are jumping off sides. But all through the game he 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:07.760 had this common presence like he was never rattled, you know, 1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:10.280 even it was under pressure, he'd get rid of the ball, 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.960 make great choices, and it's almost like you could see 1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:15.560 this time team starting to believe, like, hey, you know 1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:17.919 what what happened in the second half in Green Bay 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:21.040 where we started to come back. That's carrying over to 1:02:21.080 --> 1:02:23.280 this game and we're starting to believe. Whereas I look 1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:27.120 at the other side and Aaron Rodgers kind of a dick, 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:29.040 I mean, he's you know, he's he's like yelling is 1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:31.280 the flea fucker player Yellow is running Like every time 1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:33.840 someone go wrong, you'd be yelling at people like I don't. 1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:36.080 I'm not going to kill myself for this guy's a jerk, 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:40.200 whereas Flac was like, it's we got this, it's flying, 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:42.800 take it easy. Even the two, you know, the drive 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:44.760 at the end of the game is like never looked like, 1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:46.240 oh my god, we got to get down the field. 1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:47.480 Sometimes Burrow would do that. 1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:48.280 You know. 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:50.640 What I'm saying is like, there's this dad influence over 1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:53.040 this team right now, and maybe that's what they needed. 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:55.560 I do think that there's probably something to that, like 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:58.840 the whole Dad influence to it of like, fine, this 1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:02.480 is the I've there's no situation that Joe Flacco hasn't 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:03.000 seen in the. 1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:06.720 NFL as an experienced There's no pressure. I played in Cleveland, 1:03:07.360 --> 1:03:08.000 it's fine. 1:03:08.280 --> 1:03:12.000 I played with the Colts, the Broadcos, the Ravens, the Browns. 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:14.520 It's fine. I've been here and done this. 1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:16.680 And Jamar Chase kind of talked about that afterwards too, 1:03:16.760 --> 1:03:19.960 calling him like Joe calm instead of Joe cool, and 1:03:20.000 --> 1:03:24.160 how his facial expression just never changed, and you know, 1:03:24.280 --> 1:03:26.360 much like a lot of Bengals fans in that moment 1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:30.680 are feeling okay, here it goes, scorees like here we go, 1:03:30.880 --> 1:03:33.760 Joe Flacco in that moment is like, Okay, we're gonna 1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:35.480 go win the game, and here's how we're gonna do. 1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:35.760 Yeah. 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:37.800 And you know, I think I think Burrow has that 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:39.640 trade as well, which is what makes him great. I 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:42.920 think all the great quarterbacks have that, even Rogers. Rogers 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:45.520 I think was frustrated last night because I don't think 1:03:45.560 --> 1:03:48.320 he performed to his standard. And you know, the the 1:03:49.360 --> 1:03:52.480 flea flicker play was a miscommunication. The deep ball to 1:03:52.800 --> 1:03:56.000 DK Metcalf was a bad throw, The interception to DJ 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:59.440 Turner was just unlucky, and all of a sudden, Rogers 1:03:59.520 --> 1:04:00.680 is like, what do I got to do here? 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:01.760 To work? 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:04.200 And then the deep ball to friar Mouth. I don't 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:06.640 know if you saw this. He's running off the field 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:10.640 celebrating doing his thing and his tackle. Roderick Jones comes 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:12.680 over to celebrate with him and kind of like tackles 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:15.240 him and brings him down to the ground, and Rogers 1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:18.840 gets up matter in a wet hornet shoves him and 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:21.160 it's like basically giving him you mf or why you 1:04:21.240 --> 1:04:24.680 tackling me? After a touchdown and just kind of bad 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:27.560 vibes from Rogers lasts like the Achilles and stuff and 1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:28.520 that tush push. 1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:30.040 He wasn't even in the same time zone. 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:34.880 No bit of an old dude that had to play 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:37.320 on a Thursday night past his bedtime. 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:39.920 Yeah right, it's a little cranky. I love it. I 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:42.760 love it. Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty jumping in 1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:45.560 this morning. The big Bungal went last night, and tired 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:47.640 and happy is better than tired and pissed off, because 1:04:47.720 --> 1:04:50.080 that could have went that way with the Steelers taking 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:52.360 a lead at the end of the game. But you mentioned, 1:04:52.360 --> 1:04:54.200 you know, there's it's as good as it was. We 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:57.080 should celebrate this because, I mean, let's face it, the 1:04:57.080 --> 1:04:59.960 offensive line did what they had to do. Uh, guys 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:02.960 showing up doing their jobs. I thought that, Uh you know, 1:05:02.960 --> 1:05:05.560 I mentioned Turner Hill. I thought they played a great game. 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:09.080 But it's not like it's perfect by any means. You 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:11.160 mentioned the tackling thing. I'm sick for the puck. I 1:05:11.160 --> 1:05:13.400 love hockey, so I started watching hockey this week. I'll 1:05:13.400 --> 1:05:15.080 tell you what, there's some Bengals players that would be 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:18.040 better at hockey than tackling because they were checking guys 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:18.640 they weren't tackling. 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:19.000 Yeah. 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:22.080 Yeah, I'm going through my notes again right now, and 1:05:22.120 --> 1:05:26.520 I have first drive, missed tackles, second drive, miss tackles, 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:31.600 third drive, more miss tackles, fourth drive. These guys can't tackle, 1:05:31.640 --> 1:05:34.959 can't tackle, and you know, it just kept so many 1:05:35.040 --> 1:05:37.960 drives alive for Pittsburgh. It kept them on the field. 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:40.680 And this is the basic stuff we're talking about, like 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:43.280 can you get to the point of attack and wrap 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:46.960 up why? And everybody on that defense struggles at it. 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:50.480 I mean you guys, you know, yards after initial contact 1:05:50.480 --> 1:05:51.880 they got to be the worst in the leak they are. 1:05:51.960 --> 1:05:54.120 That's actually you know going into last night, that was 1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:56.040 one of the stats it was in Why I thought 1:05:56.160 --> 1:05:58.720 it could get ugly for the Bengals was because the 1:05:58.760 --> 1:06:01.560 Steelers led the NF and yards after catch going into 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:03.880 last night, and the Bengals were the worst in the 1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:07.160 NFL allowing yards after catch going into last night. Now, 1:06:07.280 --> 1:06:09.120 they did keep things in front of them for the 1:06:09.120 --> 1:06:11.080 most part, and they did a good job of swarming 1:06:11.120 --> 1:06:14.400 to the ball, but it rarely, rarely felt like the 1:06:14.400 --> 1:06:16.880 first guy brought the guy down to the ground, and 1:06:16.920 --> 1:06:19.000 that sort of stuff you just can't allow to happen. 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:21.880 Honest to god, I believe if Pittsburgh wanted to. They 1:06:21.880 --> 1:06:24.160 could have run that toss play to the right every 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:27.760 single play and won the game. Yea, because you're getting 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:30.680 guys out in space, you're making them you know, one 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:33.200 on one situations and forcing them to tackle, and you're 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:35.560 beating them to the to the edge. Pittsburgh had a 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:39.040 really good game plan too, because they just used the boundary, 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:41.479 use the sideline, get their guys out of space until 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:43.400 until the Bengals proved that we can you know, they 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:44.080 can tackle them. 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:46.240 We're just gonna keep doing. The Bengals right defense was 1:06:46.320 --> 1:06:50.240 terrible again, So and that's something got to Clint just 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:52.960 gashed right. But hey, take the win, get the momentum 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:54.520 on your side. I don't know if you can fix 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:55.960 the things we just talked about and how you fix 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:59.520 the tax. Here's the thing you got to understand. Tackling 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:02.160 like that against the New York Jets, that will get 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:05.280 you beat. Everybody is already saying, oh, well, we got 1:07:05.320 --> 1:07:07.040 the Jets coming to town and they're win. Listen. 1:07:07.040 --> 1:07:10.920 Blah blah blah blah blah, doesn't matter, you know. Twenty nineteen, 1:07:11.040 --> 1:07:13.160 Zach Taylor's first year as the Bengals head coach, the 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:15.680 Bengals I think were oh in eleven or oh to twelve, 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:19.520 and the Jets came to town and the Bengals whooped 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:22.680 their ass because the jets didn't play clean football. Zach 1:07:22.720 --> 1:07:26.840 Taylor's first career win. Same situation here Aaron Glenn, first 1:07:26.840 --> 1:07:28.440 time head coach with the New York Jets. 1:07:28.800 --> 1:07:29.480 He's coming in. 1:07:29.600 --> 1:07:31.920 Those dudes are mad, they've been embarrassed, they've lost some 1:07:32.000 --> 1:07:34.640 games they should have won, and here come the Bengals 1:07:34.680 --> 1:07:36.600 off of this big high of a Thursday night win 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:37.200 trap game. 1:07:37.320 --> 1:07:38.400 If you tackle the. 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:40.760 Way that you tackled, or if you attempt to tackle 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:42.680 the way that you tackled against the Pittsburgh's dealers, you 1:07:42.720 --> 1:07:45.440 will get beat by the New York Jets. You cannot 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:47.080 do that. That has to get cleaned up. 1:07:47.120 --> 1:07:48.000 I don't know how to fix that in a week. 1:07:48.040 --> 1:07:50.880 And we've been talking about all season for three seasons. 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:53.600 I don't know how you do it either, honestly clean 1:07:53.680 --> 1:07:56.320 that up and just how what they are they can't tackle. Yeah, 1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:59.000 you know, the biggest culprit to me is Demetrius Knight, 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:01.880 junior rookie line back. Everyone talks about how fast he 1:08:02.000 --> 1:08:04.480 is and how physical he is. But he never plays 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:07.160 under control, and I would like to see him play 1:08:07.240 --> 1:08:09.640 under control and get to the point of attack. I 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:11.440 don't know if he can be that player. Can he 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:14.720 play fast and under control? And you know if he 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:17.200 is under control, is he quick enough to compete in 1:08:17.240 --> 1:08:17.679 the NFL. 1:08:17.680 --> 1:08:19.559 It's a major issue, all right. Today at noon, it's 1:08:19.680 --> 1:08:22.439 Austin Elmore in ESPN fifteen thirty. What he got. 1:08:22.479 --> 1:08:24.800 We'll talked to Charlie Goldsmith, he was there last night. 1:08:24.800 --> 1:08:27.720 We'll get his perspective, reaction from the locker room, what 1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:30.360 Joe Flacco and Jamar Chase had to say, and so 1:08:30.520 --> 1:08:32.679 much more. It's a Friday football frenzy. 1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:34.800 I love it. Victory for the best thing out of 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:36.639 this whole thing. The best thing I know I were late. 1:08:36.800 --> 1:08:38.240 The best thing out of this whole thing was the 1:08:38.280 --> 1:08:41.800 fact that Cleveland has been through twenty five quarterbacks. Wonder 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:44.519 what they were twenty years and like he was in, 1:08:44.800 --> 1:08:47.280 Coaches Tomlins all pissed off about him to a division 1:08:47.400 --> 1:08:50.920 rifle and then Joe Flacco does that last night. Cleveland 1:08:51.200 --> 1:08:54.639 beat the beat the Steelers last night without even playing him. 1:08:54.640 --> 1:08:56.920 That's what happened, was a clean sweep. That's state of Ohio. 1:08:57.000 --> 1:08:59.160 Give them another win, Give him another win in the division, 1:08:59.160 --> 1:09:01.439 Give him another win Austin. Appreciate you, home of the 1:09:01.439 --> 1:09:07.040 best Bengals coverage seven hundred ww Cincinnati, So only. 1:09:06.880 --> 1:09:09.840 I'm seven hundred wwim looking forward to maybe some rain 1:09:09.880 --> 1:09:12.000 this weekend because in my state right now, with my 1:09:12.479 --> 1:09:14.800 ankle surgery, because I had a little bit of a 1:09:14.840 --> 1:09:17.519 bone that was sticking out the cause they tendon to rupture, 1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:18.840 I'd have that shaved down. 1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:22.160 I'm in an ankle boot and crutches and a scooter 1:09:22.280 --> 1:09:25.040 for the foreseeable week at least, we hopefully less than 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:28.599 a week. We'll find out why is that? Well, once 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:31.800 you hit your fifties, your good friend osteoarthritis comes into play. 1:09:31.800 --> 1:09:34.160 All those issues. When you're in your forties, you go, 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:35.880 oh man, what is that? Why does that hurt? When 1:09:35.920 --> 1:09:38.920 your thirties, you go, what's that creaking noise? In your twenties, 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:40.639 you're doing all the stuff that causes where you get 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:44.920 to where I am today, and you're popping advil like 1:09:44.960 --> 1:09:49.000 they're freaking baltoids like back in the day. Buddy. Good news, though, 1:09:49.040 --> 1:09:51.680 we have made some inroads into how to treat this 1:09:51.760 --> 1:09:54.840 and joining the show this morning from OHC on the 1:09:54.840 --> 1:09:56.840 West Side. There's also one in Kenwood too. Is doctor 1:09:56.880 --> 1:10:00.439 Matthew Burke with some interesting developments in treating arth right. Doc, 1:10:00.479 --> 1:10:01.240 Good morning, how are you? 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:02.719 I'm doing well? How about yourself? 1:10:02.760 --> 1:10:04.519 I'm doing good. I wish I would have known this 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:06.599 a while ago, although the treatment you're going to talk 1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:08.400 about it is relatively new. So you know, I had 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:10.880 a shoulder, my joint replaced to my shoulder. I just 1:10:10.920 --> 1:10:13.439 had my ankle done. So I wish I could go 1:10:13.479 --> 1:10:15.719 back in time and have this ready for me. 1:10:15.800 --> 1:10:19.200 That's for sure. Unfortunately, you're not alone. There's a pretty 1:10:19.200 --> 1:10:19.880 common thang. 1:10:21.160 --> 1:10:23.040 I had fun weird out, at least I did that. 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:25.400 So let's talk about this. If you have that kind 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:27.280 of pain and you're like, wow, my joint, my knee 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:31.719 hurts my generally it's knee, wrist, hand, arm, back, shoulder. Certainly, 1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:34.599 it happens and presents all over the body. So I'm 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:37.320 here about rollodse radiation. Of course, I'm thinking about the 1:10:37.360 --> 1:10:40.519 Manhattan Project, and I'm going, well, I know radiation is 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:42.680 bad for me, Isn't it even low doses? Isn't it? 1:10:42.720 --> 1:10:44.479 Doesn't it add up in your body? Is there a 1:10:44.960 --> 1:10:48.080 concern that this could wind up causing more problems down 1:10:48.120 --> 1:10:50.240 the line, like speaking of which of cancers and the like, 1:10:50.520 --> 1:10:52.559 because you're being exposed to radiation. How does that work? 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:55.559 Yeah, that's a great question to ask, and you know, 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:57.840 was one of the things that kept us from kind 1:10:57.840 --> 1:11:01.160 of doing this on a more widespread scale until more recently, 1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:05.599 mostly because of that public procession out of the risk. Now, 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:08.479 I think the key is the low dose. When we 1:11:08.520 --> 1:11:11.920 talk about low dose radiation therapy, we're talking about much 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:14.799 much lower doses than we use to treat say cancer, 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:19.120 for instance, And at these very low doses, there have 1:11:19.160 --> 1:11:22.080 been no proven side effects in terms of you know, 1:11:22.160 --> 1:11:26.559 secondary cancers or other risks to the tissues in that area, 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:31.000 just because of the very low nature of radiation. So 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:33.320 whereas it's something that we certainly worry about when we're 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:37.120 giving higher doses for something like cancer, this is kind 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:38.320 of a very different topic. 1:11:38.840 --> 1:11:41.880 How much different Let's say, you know, comparatively, speaking for 1:11:41.920 --> 1:11:44.599 the lay person, doctor, would the difference between let's say 1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:47.559 a typical X ray or imaging versus this treatment. 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:50.879 So this is more on the order of a typical 1:11:51.040 --> 1:11:54.599 X ray or cat scan, except we're targeting a smaller 1:11:54.640 --> 1:11:56.919 part of the body. So when we think about radiational 1:11:56.960 --> 1:11:59.000 we have to think about the more much we give, 1:11:59.080 --> 1:12:01.639 but where we're giving it, and giving a small ghost 1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:04.519 radiation to a knee is a lot less risky than 1:12:04.800 --> 1:12:08.080 giving a whole body cat scan with contrast, so you 1:12:08.080 --> 1:12:11.360 know this this is a treatment that has kind of 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:13.960 low risk on the level of the standard imaging that 1:12:14.000 --> 1:12:15.720 you think about going into the hospital for. 1:12:16.000 --> 1:12:19.320 So yeah, it's probably like a I don't know, I've 1:12:19.360 --> 1:12:22.160 said the device, but stereotactic, so it's really it's directed 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:25.480 towards that particular joint, not the whole body, correct. 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:28.320 Yeah, so this is targeted. We focus on the joint 1:12:28.360 --> 1:12:30.400 and the whole joint space and not just that bone 1:12:30.439 --> 1:12:32.599 on bone like you were talking about before, but kind 1:12:32.600 --> 1:12:35.640 of all the fluid that surrounds the joint because it 1:12:35.720 --> 1:12:38.559 works as an anti inflammatory, so you know, kind of 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.519 like you think of your your advils, your leaves, things 1:12:41.560 --> 1:12:45.400 like that that are meant to be anti inflammatory. Well, 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:47.360 this does it kind of on a on a different 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:52.240 kind of cellular level and targeting all those inflammatory you know, 1:12:52.320 --> 1:12:55.880 tissues and cells within that joint space to kind of 1:12:55.920 --> 1:12:58.479 turn that inflammation down. That's that's how this works. 1:12:58.600 --> 1:13:00.720 Interesting, So the cells, the lucas sites, all that the 1:13:00.880 --> 1:13:04.480 technical microfages and all that technical stuff that that's activated. 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:10.679 Basically it does it temporarily bock that pathway what's going 1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:11.680 on inside my body with that. 1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:16.680 So it works on a level that is going to 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:20.679 give you, most likely more longer lasting pain relief than 1:13:20.760 --> 1:13:24.040 you know, something like a topical gel or a pill 1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:26.960 that you take. Those downtime employmatories are only working for 1:13:27.040 --> 1:13:29.599 on the order of a few hours. Most of most 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:33.519 of our patients that receive this treatment get pain relief 1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:35.680 anywhere on the order of you know, six months to 1:13:35.760 --> 1:13:39.240 two years or longer in terms of how how durable 1:13:39.280 --> 1:13:40.040 the treatment is. 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:44.760 Interesting. Doctor Matthew Burkey is on He's a radiation oncologist 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:48.840 at OHC and new therapy out for those who suffer 1:13:48.880 --> 1:13:51.559 from ostiarthritis, which is like, well pretty much anyone over 1:13:51.560 --> 1:13:54.080 the age of forty five. I think everyone's up. We're 1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:55.800 beating the hell of ours. Well, we're you know, I mean, 1:13:55.880 --> 1:13:59.439 we're exercising more. People are more active, younger people especially, 1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:02.160 But you know, I watch people do CrossFit and stuff 1:14:02.200 --> 1:14:05.759 like that, and I try to remain very active myself. 1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:07.240 And it's funny because you know, the train you will 1:14:07.240 --> 1:14:09.280 of somebody will tell you is like it's just pain, 1:14:09.360 --> 1:14:11.559 is just temporary, Like not not when you're past fifty, 1:14:11.600 --> 1:14:13.280 it's pretty permanent. I'm gonna let you know. All the 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:15.400 stuff you do now you think it's good for your body, 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:17.400 You're gonna wind, You're gonna wear out some joints, and 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:20.840 that's that's true. We're living longer too, So this arthritis 1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:24.840 and austri arthritis especially is absolutely booming and that's not 1:14:24.880 --> 1:14:28.000 a good thing. But low dose radiation therapy l d 1:14:28.240 --> 1:14:30.280 RT is what it's called. They do that at OHC. 1:14:30.640 --> 1:14:33.960 And I guess anyone over that age do you have 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.120 to be presenting with symptoms? You know, if you say, 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:39.040 am my shoulder hurts a little bit, Who's what's the 1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:44.679 range of I guess the typical patient that's indicated for Yeah, 1:14:44.720 --> 1:14:45.120 for sure. 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:49.439 So you know, now every patient's different, obviously, but typically 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:52.280 patients that we consider for this treatment are, you know, 1:14:52.360 --> 1:14:55.479 over the age of forty five and they have you know, 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:59.160 persistent arthritis pain in you know, either a single or 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:06.160 multiple joints, and typically they've already tried some more conservative measures, 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:10.400 you know, like the rest or rehab. They've tried the 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:15.920 topical pain relievers like the gels or the anti inflammatory pills, 1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:20.599 and then kind of along the same pathway where maybe 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:23.559 you'd be considering joint injections or things like that. That's 1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:27.479 when you can start considering lotus radiation or arthritis relief 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:32.040 before you get to the stage of requiring surgery. So 1:15:32.080 --> 1:15:34.400 it kind of fits in that same realm of you know, 1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:37.000 when you would be thinking about doing joint injections and 1:15:37.000 --> 1:15:38.759 you're kind of tired of popping those at. 1:15:38.560 --> 1:15:41.160 Bill got you. So for someone like me, where there's 1:15:41.200 --> 1:15:43.560 no differentiation between the ball and the socket and I 1:15:43.600 --> 1:15:45.519 don't find my humor is very funny, by the way, 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:49.400 you can't fix that well. 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:52.080 So I wouldn't say that because I do have some 1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:55.879 patients that for whatever reason aren't able to get a surgery, 1:15:56.160 --> 1:15:59.000 and they already do have you know, dramatic wear and 1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:01.639 tear on their joint to where they're bone on bone, 1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:05.800 and they do get relief, but sometimes that relief is 1:16:05.800 --> 1:16:09.320 not as long lasting because you can cause more inflammation 1:16:09.720 --> 1:16:11.360 quickly when there's bone on bone. 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:14.280 Yeah, it makes sense, all right, So how long does 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.400 the procedure take? How many treatments do I need? What 1:16:16.439 --> 1:16:17.080 does that course? 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:21.439 So, depending on the situation, we typically do between five 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:25.200 and eight treatments of radiation. Each one is quite quick. 1:16:25.360 --> 1:16:28.559 It only lasts maybe five to ten minutes each session. 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:32.200 There's nothing that you see or feel during radiation. It's 1:16:32.240 --> 1:16:34.360 kind of like getting a chest X ray or a 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:36.639 cat stand. You're kind of laying there on a table 1:16:36.800 --> 1:16:39.880 and the machine's moving around you doing its thing, but 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:44.559 the radiation itself is invisible and it's being targeted precisely 1:16:44.600 --> 1:16:47.639 at that joint while you're just laying there relaxed. 1:16:48.280 --> 1:16:50.439 Okay, you know that makes sense. So do you start 1:16:50.479 --> 1:16:53.120 to notice results right away? And how does that work? 1:16:54.320 --> 1:16:56.719 Most of the patients that I've treated start seeing results 1:16:56.760 --> 1:17:00.720 about halfway through their course of radiation, two or three 1:17:00.760 --> 1:17:03.599 treatments in. But a lot of times we see the 1:17:03.640 --> 1:17:07.320 biggest relief in the weeks after we're done that kind 1:17:07.320 --> 1:17:09.160 of delayed inflammatory blockage. 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:12.639 Boy, it seems like this is the tip of the iceberg. 1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:15.720 I mean, how long ago this was this discovered? And 1:17:15.800 --> 1:17:18.479 I'd imagine know you're probably treating patients for tumors and things, 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:19.800 and all of a sudden, Hey, by the way, this 1:17:19.840 --> 1:17:23.600 doesn't hurt anymore. And you know, often a medicine or 1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:26.120 a treatment is indicated for something else and you wind 1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:28.120 up going a whole different direction, right. I mean, it 1:17:28.120 --> 1:17:30.120 seems like every drug we have is like, well, it 1:17:30.160 --> 1:17:31.880 was for this, but it turns out it's going to 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:32.639 fix something. 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:35.840 Else for sure, And that kind of is how it 1:17:36.200 --> 1:17:38.680 first got developed. But this has actually been around for 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:42.320 decades and it's in much more popular use in other 1:17:42.360 --> 1:17:45.439 parts of the world, in Europe and Germany for instance. 1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:48.439 You know, a large chunk of that radiation treatments they 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:51.840 do are for benign conditions like arthritis or planet fasciatus 1:17:52.040 --> 1:17:55.160 rather than for cancer. It's just not been as popular 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:58.959 in America, mostly because those you know, radiation safety concerns, 1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:02.920 like we talked about earlier in our conversation. And as 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:05.559 we've kind of proven some of those you know to 1:18:05.640 --> 1:18:08.080 be uh, you know, not as big of a risk 1:18:08.120 --> 1:18:11.160 as you know originally was thought, a lot of us 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:13.000 are trying to roll it out to the public to 1:18:13.000 --> 1:18:15.040 try to help more people here in America. 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:20.120 Obviously, every drug, every procedure and intervention isn't always successful. 1:18:20.160 --> 1:18:21.639 We know that you're not going to bad a thousand, 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:24.759 are I bet? But in this case, what what typically 1:18:24.760 --> 1:18:25.320 can I expect? 1:18:25.720 --> 1:18:28.160 So most of the data that you look at will 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:30.840 show about a three out of four success rate in 1:18:30.920 --> 1:18:34.839 terms of uh, you know, noticeable pain relief where patients 1:18:34.880 --> 1:18:38.720 either require less medication or non medication or you know, 1:18:38.720 --> 1:18:42.880 are dramatically improved in terms of their pain. Our results 1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:45.000 have been similar to that, maybe a little bit higher, 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:48.479 maybe more like four out of five. But you know, 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:53.400 the the response rates have been really really reassuring to see, 1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:56.439 and you know it, it's been something where even some 1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:59.439 of my patients that were you know, self admitted doubters 1:18:59.479 --> 1:19:02.360 of the treatment that we're kind of at their end 1:19:02.360 --> 1:19:05.000 of their end of their rope and we're decided that 1:19:05.040 --> 1:19:07.400 they were going to give anything a shot, have been 1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:10.200 pleasantly surprised at the response they've gotten. 1:19:10.600 --> 1:19:13.800 This sounds like it's it's more successful than you know. 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:15.840 For example, a knee joint, a lot of people are 1:19:15.840 --> 1:19:18.479 doing the knee gel and injected the VISCO supplementation I 1:19:18.479 --> 1:19:21.320 think is what it's called knee jail. That this is 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:22.280 more successful than. 1:19:22.160 --> 1:19:27.040 That, I would say that they're pretty similar. It's hard 1:19:27.080 --> 1:19:29.719 to compare the two, because I don't have a clinical 1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:32.600 trial of point two that directly compares them. But I 1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:34.880 think our experience in terms of the benefit that we 1:19:34.960 --> 1:19:39.520 gets helped prior to the knee injections. In my personal experience, 1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:42.920 I think the duration or how long the treatment lasts, 1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:45.439 tends to be a little bit more of a durable 1:19:45.520 --> 1:19:48.240 or longer lasting treatment with the radiation compared to some 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:51.920 of the knee injections, especially once you've done injections a 1:19:51.920 --> 1:19:55.000 few times, they sometimes kind of just wear off in 1:19:55.080 --> 1:19:58.400 terms of their effectiveness to do them over and over. 1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:01.000 Yeah, Like, well, I mean steroid, you get three bites 1:20:01.000 --> 1:20:03.040 of the apple and that's it. So this is a 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:04.960 more extreme version of that, and I think it is. 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:07.360 But this it's got to show promise in a bunch 1:20:07.360 --> 1:20:09.160 of other areas as well when it comes to long 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:10.400 lasting pain relief. 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:14.960 Right, definitely. So arthritis is you know, a big one, 1:20:14.960 --> 1:20:17.559 and obviously, like you mentioned, it affects the majority of 1:20:18.000 --> 1:20:21.840 people that are a little bit older, but other things too, 1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:26.400 planet fasciatus and other more inflammatory related things can also 1:20:26.479 --> 1:20:27.679 be treated with the same technique. 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:30.400 Yeah, very very interesting. If a lot I can target 1:20:30.439 --> 1:20:33.680 that at people that caused me pain in problems that 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:34.280 would be awesome. 1:20:34.320 --> 1:20:36.080 Took on that. 1:20:36.080 --> 1:20:37.760 Yeah, get on that. I don't know what you're doing 1:20:37.800 --> 1:20:39.640 this weekend, but I want to try to be more 1:20:39.680 --> 1:20:43.280 efficient here. Doctor Matthew Bertie is a radio radiation on colleges. 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:45.719 He's at OHC I be live in the West Side, 1:20:46.120 --> 1:20:49.320 and we're talking about low dose RT ld RT low 1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:51.880 dose radiation therapy, which has been used in Europe for 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:53.920 a while. It's been cleared here in the United States. 1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:55.960 People are a little leery about it, probably because they're 1:20:55.960 --> 1:20:59.880 talking about radiation. But we're seeing long lasting results for 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:04.120 or ostiarthritis. So you've got knee or joint or back 1:21:04.160 --> 1:21:06.479 pain or elbow pain, whatever it is. And once you 1:21:06.520 --> 1:21:08.320 start to get in your forties, you start to learn 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:10.800 about our good friend arthritis. And then when you're broke 1:21:10.840 --> 1:21:12.880 down an old like me, then you have to start 1:21:12.880 --> 1:21:15.720 getting joints replaced. This this won't stop that though, right 1:21:15.800 --> 1:21:19.200 this if you're doing something wrong or you're just inclined 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:21.559 to osteoarthritis, my family is and that's why I am 1:21:21.640 --> 1:21:24.639 where I am. Uh. This isn't going to reverse anything, right, 1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:26.240 This is just a pain. 1:21:26.040 --> 1:21:29.280 Relief that's correct. Yeah, it's not. It's not going to 1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:32.360 build back the cartilage or build back any of the structure. 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:35.200 And unfortunately, you know, wearing tear is a fact of 1:21:35.280 --> 1:21:38.640 life on the human body. But we're basically trying to 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:41.519 slow down the inflammation and you know, slow down that 1:21:41.600 --> 1:21:45.160 rate of decline and you know, maybe you know, put 1:21:45.160 --> 1:21:47.960 off the knee for a surgery so longer in the future, 1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:50.599 or you know, prevent it altogether if possible. 1:21:51.120 --> 1:21:53.719 Well, not only that, I'm you know, people have cringey 1:21:53.720 --> 1:21:55.960 a little bit about radiation, and I get that, but 1:21:56.600 --> 1:21:59.320 in low doses it's we're not seeing long term effects 1:21:59.320 --> 1:22:01.320 and the build up in your body. But the other element, 1:22:01.640 --> 1:22:03.280 there's a clear and present age as we know about 1:22:03.320 --> 1:22:06.200 opioid addiction, and this to me is a much better 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:09.840 alternative than getting on some sort of prescriptive medicine that 1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:15.120 could lead and ultimately cause my death or you know, imprisonment. 1:22:15.160 --> 1:22:17.040 God only knows what will happen. And there's a lot 1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:19.120 of horror stories about that. I don't want to get 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:21.200 Most people hear oxyconton are like, I don't want anything 1:22:21.240 --> 1:22:23.439 to do with it. This seems like a reasonable, non 1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:27.080 addictive habit. Forming alternative that's you don't have to take 1:22:27.120 --> 1:22:27.839 every day. 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:31.960 For sure, And you know, i'd certainly encourage people to 1:22:31.960 --> 1:22:35.360 try things like the anti inflammatory medications if that's something 1:22:35.400 --> 1:22:39.559 that their doctor recommends. But the opiate medications are kind 1:22:39.560 --> 1:22:42.800 of a whole other class that you know, has kind 1:22:42.800 --> 1:22:45.879 of rightly gotten a little bit more of a concerning 1:22:45.920 --> 1:22:47.880 connotation in the public and something that you know, I 1:22:47.920 --> 1:22:51.280 think we should be rightly cautious of. And obviously radiation 1:22:51.400 --> 1:22:54.519 is not something that has addictive potential or some of 1:22:54.520 --> 1:22:56.720 the other bad effects that you can see with opiates. 1:22:56.920 --> 1:22:59.280 Yeah, is this uncovered by insurance? That's probably the other 1:22:59.320 --> 1:23:00.599 big question I would. 1:23:00.360 --> 1:23:01.800 Ask it is. 1:23:01.920 --> 1:23:05.080 So it's covered by Medicare, it's covered by private insurance. 1:23:05.120 --> 1:23:08.160 It's in their guidelines in terms of it being a 1:23:08.920 --> 1:23:13.120 safe and approved effective treatment. So we have not had 1:23:13.160 --> 1:23:16.360 any issues in terms of, you know, insurance approvals or 1:23:17.080 --> 1:23:17.800 problems like that. 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:22.000 All right, Doctor Matthew Burkey at o HCOHC West, specifically 1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:24.559 as where your practice is located as a radiation and 1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:27.280 cologists and the benefit of low dose radiation therapy for 1:23:28.160 --> 1:23:31.519 joint pain. That's incredible, Hey, thanks for joining really interesting stuff, 1:23:31.560 --> 1:23:32.760 and I appreciate you coming on this morning. 1:23:32.800 --> 1:23:33.800 Yeah, thanks for having you. 1:23:33.880 --> 1:23:35.519 I don't know if this is an appropriate topic for 1:23:35.520 --> 1:23:38.880 a frind quite honestly, although you know you got to 1:23:38.880 --> 1:23:41.160 get out this weekend. The weather is not going to 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:42.720 be the best for getting out and doing stuff. But man, 1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:45.080 we have a stretch of let's face it, you know, 1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:46.519 we got a little rank coming this weekend. It's not 1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:49.080 gonna wash everything out by any means, but yeah, we 1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:50.880 had a incredible stretch of weather right now. People are 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:53.599 getting and doing stuff. And you know, when you're younger, 1:23:53.640 --> 1:23:55.120 you fall, you hurt yourself. You know, look at the 1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:57.560 game last night, players getting injured right and the like, 1:23:57.720 --> 1:23:59.840 and you know the stuff you do at this a 1:24:00.240 --> 1:24:03.559 when you're younger, in your twenties. The bill comes due 1:24:03.600 --> 1:24:05.840 in your forties and fifties. That's just the nature of it. 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.360 So you know two schools I thought, don't do anything 1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:12.120 and die from well some illness, or do everything and 1:24:12.200 --> 1:24:14.400 get joints replaced in your bones ground down as I'm 1:24:14.439 --> 1:24:17.679 going through. So at some point the bill comes due, 1:24:17.720 --> 1:24:20.080 regardless for you are busy or you're not busy. So 1:24:20.240 --> 1:24:22.080 and then there's a lucky few freaks out there that 1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:25.000 can run marathons in their nineties. For crying out loud, 1:24:25.000 --> 1:24:29.360 you're a freak and no one likes you. We'll do 1:24:29.400 --> 1:24:32.000 a news update and when we switch it up, plenty 1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:34.280 to do, plenty to see, plenty to drink and eat. 1:24:34.320 --> 1:24:36.240 Ali Martin, our friend is here. It's the Local Loop. 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:38.880 What's happening in and around Cincinnati. No football this weekend 1:24:38.880 --> 1:24:40.599 here locally, although I should say, you know, we got 1:24:40.600 --> 1:24:44.479 bear cats and that's all good, although they're on the road, 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:46.800 so nonetheless, you know you're looking for something to do, 1:24:46.840 --> 1:24:49.240 we got you covered straight ahead on this Friday morning. 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:51.280 I'm Scott Sloan. This is seven hundred W with them. 1:24:51.520 --> 1:24:56.280 Don't don't the weekends coming on them and you need 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:57.280 to make the most of it. 1:24:57.680 --> 1:24:59.920 Where to go and what to do. She has to 1:25:00.240 --> 1:25:03.200 tips and insight to help you make it as super weekend. 1:25:03.600 --> 1:25:06.360 So listen up. This is the Local Loop with Ali 1:25:06.520 --> 1:25:10.559 mart on seven hundred w l W. That happy music 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:12.880 and intro means Ali Martin is here, because it also 1:25:12.920 --> 1:25:17.240 means it's Friday, which is critical little nappy kind of 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:18.800 day today because you stay up late to watch the 1:25:18.840 --> 1:25:21.559 Bengals game. Just got a little nappy in their future. 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:25.920 I don't know. I'm I think I've got some energy 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:27.640 from the game. I don't think I need an ap. 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:29.080 How many times have we stand late to watch the 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:32.000 Bengals and you feel like crap because they lost embarrassingly 1:25:32.080 --> 1:25:35.880 sore because when they scored it, when Fried with it 1:25:36.000 --> 1:25:38.280 that long touchdown at sixty air and I'm like, I 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:39.040 stayed up for this. 1:25:39.560 --> 1:25:42.560 Well then Flacco coming in clutch. 1:25:42.320 --> 1:25:45.799 Coming in quick. But I looked at the clock after Caliams, 1:25:45.840 --> 1:25:47.920 I'm like, Michelle was like, oh man, they're gonna lose this. 1:25:48.000 --> 1:25:50.200 I'm like, I don't know, Flacco is gonna They got 1:25:50.240 --> 1:25:51.120 a lot of time left. 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:53.920 I love seeing, first of all, the face off of 1:25:53.960 --> 1:25:57.719 these two quarterbacks where you have Aaron Rodgers and Joe 1:25:57.760 --> 1:26:02.559 Flacco the senior quarter rolling through. But it was so good. 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:04.439 It was so good. They're shake at the end, and 1:26:04.560 --> 1:26:06.479 he seemed calm, cool and collected the whole time. 1:26:06.520 --> 1:26:08.280 He really did, and he kind of knew it too. 1:26:08.320 --> 1:26:10.800 He was just like icy and icy hot, but icy 1:26:10.880 --> 1:26:15.240 cold maybe Joe cool. Two point zero. Because Rogers goes 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:17.599 on the fields, they score, they go ahead, and then 1:26:17.800 --> 1:26:19.759 you look at it goes wait, this is Joe Flacco, 1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:22.799 not like you feel like he's gonna go hey, okay, 1:26:22.960 --> 1:26:29.040 hold my insure and they go down the field and. 1:26:27.320 --> 1:26:30.360 There was just something about the plays just looked really clean, 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:32.479 and they looked really quick, quick snacks. 1:26:32.600 --> 1:26:35.840 There's some things they still can't tackle and the can't 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:37.920 really get to the quarterback. But you know what I. 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:41.080 Think, right now, we just need an embrace win ovisional win. 1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:43.840 And I know plans are like we have, but they won, 1:26:44.120 --> 1:26:45.800 and they were in a great fashion. 1:26:45.439 --> 1:26:47.680 In a great fashion at home against the Dealers, and 1:26:47.680 --> 1:26:49.800 I feel like, right now, this is such a this 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:51.679 is that was to me, it was a really crucial 1:26:51.720 --> 1:26:54.080 game because of just where we are in the season 1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:56.160 and if we would have lost that and not. 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:58.360 That we need that's like the positive news are we now? 1:26:58.520 --> 1:27:00.560 Because had the Bendals lost, the other big story that 1:27:00.560 --> 1:27:03.799 we're over shadow probably is another fatal shooting. Yeah, downtown, 1:27:03.880 --> 1:27:06.599 how tired are you? Like literally right at right outside 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:09.120 well in front of Great American There more but right 1:27:09.120 --> 1:27:09.880 off the gam like two. 1:27:09.800 --> 1:27:11.320 Am, And are you talking about all of them? 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:11.639 Yeah? 1:27:11.680 --> 1:27:14.120 Yeah, we've been a little bit. It's exhausting, it really is. 1:27:14.160 --> 1:27:15.840 That's why you're here. This morning because we don't talk 1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:18.000 about the heavy stuff on Friday. We took up with 1:27:18.000 --> 1:27:19.880 the fun stuff to do. Give me something fun to. 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:22.880 Do, well, speaking about throwing long passes down a field, 1:27:22.920 --> 1:27:25.080 how about throwing paper planes in a brewery. 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:27.599 They're having a paper plane battle. 1:27:27.760 --> 1:27:31.439 Listen to this. Okay, so it's called a paper plane 1:27:31.840 --> 1:27:35.280 Derby and it's not this Tuesday's two tuesdays from now 1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:37.240 at Ryan Guys. So October twenty eighth. 1:27:37.280 --> 1:27:38.400 Why are we telling this now. 1:27:38.520 --> 1:27:43.280 Because only twenty people are able to participate, and the 1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:46.519 sign ups are now, and if you don't participate, it's 1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:48.400 gonna be fun to watch no matter what. So there's 1:27:48.400 --> 1:27:51.479 twenty allotted spots, So sign up now. Where this is 1:27:51.520 --> 1:27:54.800 going is Cincy Scoop is partnering with Ryan Geist, which 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:56.920 is a really really great space to do this in, 1:27:57.560 --> 1:28:01.000 and they're having this paper plane competition and the top 1:28:01.080 --> 1:28:04.320 three people are gonna get really cool prizes, nice and 1:28:04.600 --> 1:28:06.640 to lay on the plane. What you're gonna do is 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:09.240 you're gonna roll up. You're gonna register. So register now 1:28:09.280 --> 1:28:11.040 if you go to Cincy Scoops and you check out 1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:13.719 their channel, which is really great on Instagram. Yeah, it'll 1:28:13.720 --> 1:28:16.120 have a link to the event. You could sign up 1:28:16.120 --> 1:28:17.760 that way, but you'll roll up at five. It's five 1:28:17.800 --> 1:28:20.680 thirty to eight thirty. Register at five thirty, and then 1:28:20.680 --> 1:28:22.800 you have an hour to build your paper play. So 1:28:22.800 --> 1:28:25.040 you don't get to go out and row an hour, 1:28:25.280 --> 1:28:27.639 only an hour. An hour to build your paper plane, 1:28:28.000 --> 1:28:29.920 hang out, drakes of beer, whatever, So then you start 1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:32.360 throwing at six thirty. Take an hour to b doesn't 1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:34.880 mean you have to show up your building folding. 1:28:34.920 --> 1:28:36.960 It's a sheet. It's like an eight x ten notebook. 1:28:37.360 --> 1:28:39.599 Science. Okay, well this is science, this is siety. 1:28:39.600 --> 1:28:41.479 I want a couple of these, have you? 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:41.760 Yes? 1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:41.920 I have? 1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:43.200 Why does that not surprise me? 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:44.400 Love paper planes. 1:28:44.400 --> 1:28:45.840 We'll get to that story here in a second. 1:28:45.840 --> 1:28:49.479 I'm majored in that. That and teacher's talking to make 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:50.400 a paper airplane. 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:52.280 That and making Ramen out of a coffee pot. 1:28:52.600 --> 1:28:53.040 I got it. 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:55.000 That's my job. That's what I do. That's my contribution 1:28:55.479 --> 1:28:56.479 on the behind the scenes. 1:28:56.520 --> 1:28:58.200 Guy here the DIY have. 1:28:58.360 --> 1:29:00.599 Right, nice? So there's prizes. It's a lot of fun. 1:29:00.720 --> 1:29:03.040 Yes, go and hang out. I think it's gonna be 1:29:03.120 --> 1:29:05.000 a lot of fun. You know, if you're not participating, 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:09.040 it's a free event, drinks of beer, cheer on some people. Yeah, 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:11.880 so you'll go. If you are participating again, register now, 1:29:12.200 --> 1:29:15.040 you'll have an hour whenever after you register till six 1:29:15.200 --> 1:29:17.600 thirty to build your plane. And then you're gonna have 1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:21.040 two chances. And it's whoever and you're throwing it too, 1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:24.200 So whoever goes the furthest wins, and you're gonna have 1:29:24.200 --> 1:29:25.360 different rounds in different series. 1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:27.360 That's tough because bro, you got all those cross drafts 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:28.759 and things. Yeah, be really careful. 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:30.719 Really, they have those big ass fans. 1:29:30.840 --> 1:29:32.840 I know. It's like, well they'll have those offices. You 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:36.519 wouldn't go go very far and you got a chance. Well, 1:29:36.640 --> 1:29:38.200 I mean twenty it seems like a lot of people 1:29:38.200 --> 1:29:40.479 are gonna register and they just draw twenty names. 1:29:40.840 --> 1:29:43.280 Well, so they have it's the first twenty two register. 1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:46.080 That's why I'm talking about it right now. But I 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:47.920 think it could still be a really fun event to 1:29:47.960 --> 1:29:50.280 go to. And here's my thing. If I were to 1:29:50.280 --> 1:29:53.120 be rolling in the aisles of staples, you know there 1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:54.560 are different weights of paper. 1:29:54.360 --> 1:29:56.880 That's true, what's the weight? You gotta get the right weight. 1:29:56.960 --> 1:29:59.640 You can't really use like cardboard. But then you know, 1:29:59.680 --> 1:30:02.519 good old maybe just a little heavier bond than notebook paper. 1:30:02.560 --> 1:30:04.840 Seems to you got a little stiffness with a rigidity, 1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:07.120 but you got you got the weight factor. 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:08.639 Too, And how many different ways can you find? 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:11.080 Also, what's the humidity in that room? You gotta look 1:30:11.120 --> 1:30:13.040 at that. In the temperature, those are big factors there, 1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:15.800 prevailing winds, cross breezes. You've got a lot going on there. 1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:18.519 How many people if you have condensation from the beer 1:30:18.560 --> 1:30:19.439 on the glass on your. 1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:23.599 Hands, gonna throw things off, really throw off your throat, 1:30:23.720 --> 1:30:25.800 a lot of improblems. You got a factor in there. 1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:28.400 This is life or death here, missus ge aviation. 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:30.479 All right, So that's a couple of weeks away. What 1:30:30.520 --> 1:30:32.040 do we got closer though? All right? 1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:35.880 Well to just launch off the weekend, we've got the 1:30:35.880 --> 1:30:37.120 Cincinnati Cyclones. 1:30:37.200 --> 1:30:37.599 Let's go. 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:41.880 They're back, looking forward to that starting tomorrow, their big 1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:46.200 home opener against the Wheeling West Virginia Nailers. Uh and 1:30:46.360 --> 1:30:50.480 the first five thousand Cyclones fans, they're gonna get a calendar. 1:30:51.080 --> 1:30:53.800 So that's gonna be their giveaway, their season calendar. I'm 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.719 sure le don't have two dollars hot. 1:30:55.520 --> 1:30:57.080 Dogs all right? All right? 1:30:57.240 --> 1:30:57.880 And beer? 1:30:57.960 --> 1:30:58.240 Okay? 1:30:58.280 --> 1:31:01.519 It starts at seven thirty at Heritage Bank. Let's go, 1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:03.080 let's go, time to drop the puck. 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:05.200 I love it hockey seasons. Here is watching some puck 1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:07.120 the other night as a matter of fact, So I 1:31:07.240 --> 1:31:09.960 love this. I love this Tommy year. 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:12.320 And it's coughing season. 1:31:13.960 --> 1:31:16.040 Well, I was gonna ask you something else about the arena. 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:18.840 I don't want to, oh get so one of the 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:20.640 thoughts this week was, Hey, the arena and now all 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:23.240 of a sudden, out of nowhere, Msa says, you know, 1:31:23.360 --> 1:31:25.360 I think on second rend further of you, we can 1:31:25.400 --> 1:31:27.679 probably put it where the old arenas. Seems like somebody, 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:30.880 I don't know, being Italian, maybe predisposed to this, but 1:31:30.960 --> 1:31:33.040 it's like somebody may be made like, yeah, you know, 1:31:33.040 --> 1:31:34.679 we're gonna put the arena where in the old spot 1:31:34.720 --> 1:31:36.120 is why do you figure out how to make it work? 1:31:36.360 --> 1:31:37.800 Why do you do a study and come up with 1:31:37.920 --> 1:31:38.439 what we want? 1:31:38.800 --> 1:31:38.880 Uh? 1:31:38.960 --> 1:31:40.559 Because there's a lot of money down on the banks 1:31:40.560 --> 1:31:43.719 and people want that. But but also like, okay, well 1:31:43.960 --> 1:31:46.080 then you got to blow up Heritage Bank Center. So 1:31:46.080 --> 1:31:48.240 then where does a clon? Where would the clones play 1:31:48.439 --> 1:31:52.760 for probably two seasons? What is sports plus you can't. Yeah, 1:31:53.240 --> 1:31:55.360 play the sports Plus, my nephew played hockey and been 1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:57.559 tons of games at sports. Plus, you can get like 1:31:57.600 --> 1:32:00.360 a hundred people there. Maybe could you do it across 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:05.080 the river at Northern Kentucky? Where maybe could you do 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:07.479 You have to bring portable ice. I suppose you can 1:32:07.640 --> 1:32:09.040 lay that surface down anywhere. 1:32:09.439 --> 1:32:12.760 Could you change Great American into a No, I don't 1:32:12.800 --> 1:32:16.760 think they're going to create a bubble somehow. There's a 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:19.840 clearly enough field. You know how Cincinnatians are with weather 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:23.160 the big NHL game outside. 1:32:22.720 --> 1:32:24.760 Of one game every game. 1:32:24.840 --> 1:32:26.960 This could be our time to make the news. If 1:32:27.000 --> 1:32:29.800 we want Cincinnati on the mout, we need to see 1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:32.679 the dedication of these fans. We're gonna build an ice 1:32:32.760 --> 1:32:36.080 rink a Great American, and we're gonna have a season 1:32:36.160 --> 1:32:37.839 long of games outside. 1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:40.320 I thought, least you know, people are shaking their head 1:32:40.320 --> 1:32:42.920 gun but never mind, will be at any of them? 1:32:43.040 --> 1:32:45.840 Of course, of course you want to. I guess you 1:32:45.880 --> 1:32:47.360 could just leave the rink up at Fountain Square. 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:48.360 Maybe that's a dumb idea. 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:51.640 We're on these skating three guys, we're to have a 1:32:51.680 --> 1:32:52.360 Fountain Square. 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:56.080 I think we can figure it out. 1:32:57.240 --> 1:33:01.639 That's gonna be one on one hockey. What other inn door, Well, 1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:03.960 you've got North Northlanders up there. But again these are 1:33:04.000 --> 1:33:06.280 these are just you know, they're sheets. I would have 1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:08.719 to say, you'd probably have to do it in northern 1:33:08.760 --> 1:33:11.200 Kentucky would be the only place. I can't think anywhere 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:12.600 someone said, well i'll have it up in date and 1:33:12.600 --> 1:33:14.320 you can play a date and like it's too fie. 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:17.080 That is the tricky part of this because that location 1:33:17.520 --> 1:33:21.160 truly is ideal. Yeah, but yeah, in order to make 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:21.920 it happen. 1:33:21.920 --> 1:33:24.400 All right, but that's again future stuff like paper airplanes. 1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:28.040 Yeah you said coffing season. You know, it means, right 1:33:28.080 --> 1:33:29.760 that you meet up with someone and then you break 1:33:29.840 --> 1:33:31.559 up by right after a valduch. 1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:34.280 It's really the convenience of weather, as we just said, 1:33:34.560 --> 1:33:36.880 as it starts to get cooler in October, it's probably 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:39.600 like October to February. If you're getting lonely, you know, 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:40.920 the days are shorter. 1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:43.360 Like a booty call with a little bit more romances. 1:33:43.520 --> 1:33:45.160 Yeah, with a little bit more romance. But where it 1:33:45.160 --> 1:33:47.400 gets tricky is if you decide to pair up with 1:33:47.439 --> 1:33:49.360 someone that you're like, well, the holidays are here, but 1:33:49.400 --> 1:33:51.840 you're not good enough to take around the family. You 1:33:51.840 --> 1:33:53.839 can figure that out. But you can lay those logistics 1:33:53.880 --> 1:33:56.800 out early. It's coffing season, but you could take your 1:33:56.840 --> 1:33:59.759 plus one to the Cyclones game or maybe the Pumpkin 1:33:59.800 --> 1:34:04.160 Fast because that's also happening this weekend. Braxton h pretty 1:34:04.240 --> 1:34:06.479 much every year they launched their pumpkin beer and they 1:34:06.520 --> 1:34:10.559 par they pair with graters and so they're doing it's 1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:14.040 called Pumpkin Patch and it's limited supply, so all week 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:17.440 and long. And this is the Braxton in Covington, seventeenth, 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:20.880 eighteenth and nineteenth and they're having things going on all weekend. 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:23.920 Have you heard of I do enjoy the beers this time? 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:25.840 You like that. I like the pumpkin ey beer, some 1:34:26.120 --> 1:34:29.360 blueberry and yeah, I'm not a big is this craft 1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:31.799 beer guy? No, I don't mind it. They're pretty good actually. 1:34:31.880 --> 1:34:33.519 And then there was some of the winter loggers and stuff. 1:34:33.600 --> 1:34:35.560 Is this an age thing because just a couple of 1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:38.400 years ago it's pretty anti flavor beers. 1:34:38.680 --> 1:34:40.360 No, No, And I'm looking at anti flavor, but it's 1:34:40.400 --> 1:34:42.280 not my preference. I My go to would just be 1:34:42.320 --> 1:34:44.880 a can and bringing old like the culture or something. Yeah, 1:34:44.960 --> 1:34:47.559 but I mean, yeah, like I have I wouldn't sit 1:34:47.560 --> 1:34:49.320 there and wow, I'm gonna drink two or three of these. 1:34:49.360 --> 1:34:51.280 I mix it up a little bit, but something by 1:34:51.360 --> 1:34:54.519 a yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, like the Bourbon 1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:57.479 Out beer that's pretty good, the Crisp Bear Yeah. 1:34:57.320 --> 1:35:01.360 With Akin Ale And this is your time left Braxton 1:35:01.680 --> 1:35:04.320 Grater's collab. So if you head over, if you're in 1:35:04.439 --> 1:35:08.320 Comington today actually in particular, would be a great day 1:35:08.360 --> 1:35:12.080 to go because have you ever heard of Wicked Designs? So, 1:35:12.400 --> 1:35:13.840 oh my gosh, you got to check him out on 1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:17.400 social somewhere. This is the guy that carves crazy, elaborate 1:35:17.479 --> 1:35:18.400 pumpkin designs. 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:22.720 Okay, Like I've seen those guys before, like before they 1:35:22.760 --> 1:35:24.600 intro to the football game and they have yeah and 1:35:24.600 --> 1:35:25.960 then Michael Pumpkin. 1:35:25.880 --> 1:35:29.360 Yes your face and looks identical to your face. Right, 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:31.720 So he's going to be there today from six to 1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:35.519 nine doing pumpkin carvings. They're gonna have live music all 1:35:35.560 --> 1:35:38.599 week and long, and then they're gonna do a pinal 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:43.280 Pellette pino Pellette pumpkin painting station. Say that ten times 1:35:43.320 --> 1:35:46.519 past Saturday from noon to four. So that's just like 1:35:46.560 --> 1:35:49.280 a fun daytime thing, a little Sunday Funday so the 1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:54.280 Braxton Brewing Company com confess over in company Covington check 1:35:54.320 --> 1:35:58.439 it out. Also, if you're in Comington are you are 1:35:58.439 --> 1:35:59.559 you a tea drinker at all? 1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:01.559 Not really maybe iced tea. 1:36:01.720 --> 1:36:02.720 Have you had Macha? 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:07.719 That's the one the looks like it's it's very green? Yeah, okay? 1:36:07.880 --> 1:36:09.120 Is that what? I don't even know what that is. 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:11.240 My daughter loves that. It's like, oh my god, Maacha 1:36:12.000 --> 1:36:14.280 with stuff with It's like dessert with tea in it. 1:36:14.439 --> 1:36:20.560 That stuff is Amazon that does that. It's the Parisian 1:36:20.640 --> 1:36:23.719 slash Vietnamese bakery. I feel like it's okay. 1:36:23.880 --> 1:36:26.280 The americanized version of it is turning it into a 1:36:26.360 --> 1:36:28.519 latte and dumping a whole bunch of sugar into it. 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:31.679 But at its core, Macha is a green tea. It's 1:36:31.720 --> 1:36:33.920 a powdered green tea. But where I'm going with this? 1:36:34.200 --> 1:36:37.879 Also in Covington, Uh, there's a place called Little Macha 1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:40.960 that opened up and it was a really popular pop 1:36:41.040 --> 1:36:44.000 up spot for a long time and they finally got 1:36:44.000 --> 1:36:46.240 a brick and mortar and it's right by Smoke Justice. 1:36:46.640 --> 1:36:50.879 It's a new development. Are Yeah Asian known and sourced 1:36:50.920 --> 1:36:54.599 from small farms in Japan. And they serve three different types, 1:36:54.600 --> 1:36:56.960 three or four different types of tea. They do macha, 1:36:57.360 --> 1:37:01.160 ho chi jaw, and then jen gen Macha. I have 1:37:01.240 --> 1:37:03.760 not had the Hoch or the gen macha, but a 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:07.439 lot of people know macha. So it's a finely powdered 1:37:07.439 --> 1:37:10.240 green tea and you like, crush it up, give me 1:37:10.320 --> 1:37:13.080 some Lipton, it's good. Here's the thing, and then you 1:37:13.120 --> 1:37:15.360 get sweeten it up. You can put it like cream, 1:37:15.520 --> 1:37:18.200 cream and sugar and turn it into a latte and 1:37:18.240 --> 1:37:20.160 do the whole thing. You can also make it. They 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:22.719 do these macha classes, which is fun. But I'm bringing 1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:24.840 this up too because holidays are right around the corner, 1:37:24.840 --> 1:37:27.040 and if you know somebody that enjoys tea, they do 1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:29.200 little gift sets and things like that. That could be 1:37:29.200 --> 1:37:29.679 a good idea. 1:37:29.760 --> 1:37:34.800 Yeah, so maybe grandma or your mom. All right, and 1:37:34.840 --> 1:37:38.000 put that down from Michelle. 1:37:35.960 --> 1:37:40.240 Yeah, there's a lot of good health benefits. So cold, 1:37:40.280 --> 1:37:42.719 it's chilly, and it's good for brain functioning. 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:43.000 Chi. 1:37:43.280 --> 1:37:45.800 I mean I might have a nice cup of tea. 1:37:45.920 --> 1:37:48.080 Come on, my mom was a nice cup of tea late. 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:50.240 I'm need a nice cup of tea. Tea is good 1:37:50.240 --> 1:37:52.720 for you. I'm not saying it's not. Once in a 1:37:52.720 --> 1:37:55.280 great while, maybe I'll have some tea especially okay, like 1:37:55.320 --> 1:37:58.360 maybef late afternoon. I got my caffeine cut offs about 1:37:58.360 --> 1:38:01.080 four o'clock yep, and so it's like, yeah, I need 1:38:01.120 --> 1:38:05.519 something more dcaf tea. They're a lot more decaff toffee. 1:38:05.720 --> 1:38:08.360 I don't know. I don't have a teacher. I look 1:38:08.400 --> 1:38:13.040 at a box of tea's in there, and I look 1:38:13.120 --> 1:38:14.439 through and I go, I'm looking for the one that's 1:38:14.439 --> 1:38:17.000 caffeine free and whatever looks caffeine free. Like I think 1:38:17.000 --> 1:38:19.720 this is caffeine free, and I have that one. Yeah, yeah, 1:38:19.880 --> 1:38:22.040 or like I don't know cinnamon or I know that 1:38:22.280 --> 1:38:24.320 like black tea is not to make this racist, but 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:26.200 the black tea's got a lot of caffeine in it. 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:27.400 I don't know about the white tea. 1:38:28.560 --> 1:38:29.200 Is there white tea? 1:38:29.280 --> 1:38:33.200 Yeah, the Machia, I don't know about that. I'm like 1:38:33.240 --> 1:38:35.320 green tea has a little caffeine. I think. I think 1:38:35.400 --> 1:38:36.000 I don't know. 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:37.599 The green teas where it's at. It's good. 1:38:37.720 --> 1:38:39.559 I'm just looking for straight up decaf. That's it. When 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:41.400 I drink tea, it's going to be like a decaf 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:43.160 or if I'm sick. You got tea. 1:38:44.000 --> 1:38:47.120 Yeah, there's the it's the ginger lemon ones for me because. 1:38:46.840 --> 1:38:48.599 It helps your throat to orange water. 1:38:49.720 --> 1:38:52.599 That's good for you. Okay, there you go, little mach 1:38:52.760 --> 1:38:55.120 if you're over there, and then maybe pop over to 1:38:55.120 --> 1:38:56.719 smoke Justin's and have a bourbon. 1:38:56.840 --> 1:39:00.680 Yeah, at the end of the day, we do have that, now, 1:39:00.760 --> 1:39:04.519 don't you're Machia Bourbon Perry. Yeah, yeah, matcha. Somebody's gonna 1:39:04.560 --> 1:39:07.360 do that at some point. Somebody's like a white tea cocktail. 1:39:07.400 --> 1:39:10.439 I've seen those before I ever had one, but oh, you. 1:39:10.439 --> 1:39:12.559 Know what, you actually bring a really good point. Some 1:39:12.600 --> 1:39:14.880 of my favorite cocktails over the last year or so 1:39:15.040 --> 1:39:18.160 are the ones who start and have a base of tea. 1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:20.519 Yeah. Michelle had one the other day. I don't forget 1:39:20.520 --> 1:39:21.920 where or where it was, but I knew it had 1:39:21.960 --> 1:39:22.400 tea in it. 1:39:22.479 --> 1:39:22.679 Hot. 1:39:23.280 --> 1:39:24.719 I don't know, this is hot Totti. 1:39:25.240 --> 1:39:26.200 We're approaching hot. 1:39:27.479 --> 1:39:32.960 Yeah, you need the bourbon up. Doesn't that get rid 1:39:32.960 --> 1:39:36.880 of the alcohol? What's the point? No, because you don't. 1:39:36.680 --> 1:39:42.719 You make the tea first. It's fine, it's tea and bourbon. 1:39:45.160 --> 1:39:48.759 No, I'm just drinking the bourbon. I'm not drinking bourbon. Coffee, 1:39:50.560 --> 1:39:52.439 macha bourbon. I'm like, no, I just give it a bourbon. 1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:55.840 Maybe we'll do a warm like a warm bourbon cocktail. 1:39:57.120 --> 1:39:58.960 The bourbon tea. Just hold the bird, hold the tea 1:39:59.000 --> 1:40:01.639 and just I'll just take the burd Ali Martin at 1:40:01.640 --> 1:40:04.679 the Local Loop of course, check out her YouTube channel 1:40:04.720 --> 1:40:07.479 to the Local Loop and also at Ali Martine on 1:40:07.560 --> 1:40:09.920 social She's always got stuff going on over there. All right, 1:40:10.040 --> 1:40:12.240 you have a great weekend, always good catching up who 1:40:12.320 --> 1:40:15.160 day and think about your paper airplane design. 1:40:15.280 --> 1:40:18.040 I will yeah, engineering mind going, oh. 1:40:17.920 --> 1:40:21.160 Yeah, that's what I would be. I think exactly all right, 1:40:21.160 --> 1:40:23.200 So lots of fun stuff is always with Alice. Thanks again, 1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:25.080 appreciate you. We got to get Willy on the way 1:40:25.080 --> 1:40:26.840 in just a few minutes. He'll be wrapping up the 1:40:26.840 --> 1:40:30.720 big Bengals win last night. And of course we've got 1:40:30.760 --> 1:40:32.240 news on the way in just a few minutes. A 1:40:32.439 --> 1:40:36.240 fatal shooting last night, and that would be overshadowing everything 1:40:36.280 --> 1:40:37.880 I believe had the Bengals won. We just need some 1:40:37.920 --> 1:40:39.760 good news, and the good news is the weekends here 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:41.920 in the Bengals one. So we'll leave it at that 1:40:41.960 --> 1:40:43.960 and pump the brakes just ahead here Scott's throwing back 1:40:44.000 --> 1:40:46.400 Monday morning at nine oh six on the home of 1:40:46.439 --> 1:40:49.200 the best Bengals coverage, seven hundred WLWT Cincinnati