1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: You Welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, the house whisper, customer, 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: home builder, custom home designer, and your guide to better 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: understanding that place where you live today. On the show, 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: it's all your calls. The number to reach me eight 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: three three two Ask Dean A three to three the 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: numeral two ask Dean. Let's go back to the phones. 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: Hey Scott, welcome home. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: Hi Dean. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: I have a question about insulation. I want to insulate 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: my raptors and I can do it myself if I 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 4: do the Fiberglas, but I have to put baffles in. 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 4: And so my question is, if I have the spray on, 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: I don't have to have baffles. Is that a correct? 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: When you say baffles, you mean the the space at 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: the bottom to keep your vents clear. 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: Correct? Correct? So so the raftors can breathe, I understand. 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it. I mean, well, the rafters don't 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: have to breathe. The attic has to breathe. That's the key, Okay, 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: the attic has to breathe. And so so the spray 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: on doesn't need a baffle in the sense of allowing 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: the rafter line to breathe. But what's critical is that 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: unless you're vaulting the ceiling, in which case, yes, the 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: individual raptor has to breathe a little bit. But with 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: spray foam insulation, no, you don't have the same baffle 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: needs that you do with bats because bats are very large, 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: they're very puffy, and they're very easy to close over 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: vent openings, especially where the rafters join the bottom wall 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: in the attic. So yeah, I say that that's a 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: fair assessment. So you weighing back and forth the idea 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: of fiberglass versus spray foam, and I'm. 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: Wondering what would your and also you know I have 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: safit's in the facia board. I mean, so if the 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: spray on, what would I do with the soft events? 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: Well, those soft events, you want to keep them clear. Again, 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: you want to keep them clear, and there are ways 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: of keeping those soft events clear and doing the spray. 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: I mean a spray insulation company they deal with this 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: all the time, so they'll make sure that that still 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: breathes into the attic space. If you're asking my opinion 42 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: about the two, I mean, there's no question that spray 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: foam insulation provides a tighter air seal and gives you 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: more r value per inch than any other kind of insulation, 45 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: any other kind at all. But you know, it also 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: has an associated price attached to it, and so I 47 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 2: tend to well, let me ask you this. I'm gonna 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: get ahead of myself here. I don't want to get 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: ahead of myself. Well, why are we insulating the raft 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: and not the attic, roof, the attic floor. 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: So I have a true story and the air conditioner, 52 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: the venting is all in the attic on the attic floor, 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: and so I'm in two story living riverside gets really hot. 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to trying to figure out how 55 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: to get the better air conditioning core air you know, 56 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: not going through one hundred and twenty degree attic. 57 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Got you, Okay, that's what I suspected. I just wanted 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: to hear it from you so that I could point 59 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: you in the right direction. So the newest concept in 60 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: insulating homes is headed in the direction of that you 61 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: are headed in. And that is what we call conditioned 62 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: attic space, in which we're going to now insulate the rafters, 63 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: the roof rafters themselves make that the insulation envelope for 64 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: the home, not the floor of the attic. Okay, And 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: you can't do that with loan in insulation. You can 66 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: do it with bats, but quite often fiberglass bats in 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: order to get a good R thirty seal up there 68 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: or not are they're going to be way larger thicker 69 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: than your rafters themselves, the depth of the rafters. So 70 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: that's awkward and weird and difficult, and so that's why 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: we am almost always without exception, when we're doing a 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: conditioned attic space and we're pushing the exterior insulation envelope 73 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: to the outside edge of the roof, then we're going 74 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: to use the spray foam insulation to seal that all 75 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: up and to get the R value that we need, 76 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: and then we pull insulation out of the floor of 77 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: the attic. So that and the last step here, we 78 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: are going to take the air conditioning system and provide 79 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: in the attic a vent, an actual duct that's going 80 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: to blow into the attic and a small return that's 81 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: gonna allow air that's blown into the attic to also recirculate. 82 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: In other words, we're going to treat the attic like 83 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: we treat any other room in the house so that 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: it's got a return air and a feed duct that 85 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: they don't have to be big up there, but just 86 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: adequately sized, and almost every system can handle adding that 87 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: to it generally speaking, in that case, Scott, with one 88 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: exception of maybe a moisture vent near the top of 89 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 2: the ridge, you don't have to have your attic vents open. 90 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: In fact, you don't want your addic. You don't want 91 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: a ventilated attic anymore. You want it completely sealed off, 92 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: completely air sealed. And guess what if you're doing a 93 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: conditioned attic, the code allows you to do exactly that, 94 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: to eliminate all the exterior ducts for the attic space, 95 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: and then you're essentially if the second floor is it's 96 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 2: sitting at seventy seventy two degrees, the attic is sitting 97 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: at seventy two maybe seventy four degrees. The reason that's 98 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: so brilliant is because, well, you know, during the day, 99 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: during the summer, that attic is staying cool. It's not 100 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: putting stress on the AC equipment. Your cool air is 101 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: not coming out of a zone that's one hundred and 102 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: forty to one hundred and sixty degrees up there. It 103 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: doesn't radiate heat down into the house at night. There's 104 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: a thousand reasons why building of new homes is shifting 105 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: now in a very definitive way towards no longer insulating 106 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: the attic floor, but insulating the rafters and making the 107 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: attic conditioned space. And you also get the benefit that 108 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: if you've got a little bit of room in your attic, 109 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: you can now finally throw some plywood up there and 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: store some holiday you know, stoare lightweight holiday storage up 111 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: in the attic because the insulation doesn't have to be 112 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: on the floor of the attic. That makes sense. 113 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. And also you would 114 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: not go with a DIY spray home, would you are? 115 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. It's worth it. It's 116 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: a major move for your house, and it's permanent. It's 117 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: worth talking to, you know, getting multiple bids from pro 118 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: insulation installers and and doing it that way. 119 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: Dean. 120 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate your help, Scott. 121 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: Thank you great call, and I love what you I 122 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: love how you're thinking about it. If it fits into 123 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: your budget, and believe me, it will pay you back 124 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: in spades. It really really will, years and years and 125 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: years of more comfortable home, better energy savings. So look 126 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: about Look that up though, look into literally conditioned attic space, 127 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: and you'll see all the theory behind it and all 128 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: the necessities, and I think I think you're going to 129 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: head in that direction. That's my guess. I wish more 130 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: people would or at least know about it. But that's 131 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: why we take calls here on the show. Okay, quick 132 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: break and then more of your calls your home with 133 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. Dean Sharp, the house Whisper 134 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: here to help you take your home to the next level. 135 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: It's an all calls show today. Let's get back to 136 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: the phones. Let's talk to Row. Hey, Row, welcome home. 137 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: Hi. 138 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 6: I heard you talking to Mark Thompson the other day 139 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 6: about his shower and how you have to have a 140 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 6: certain amount of water in the pea trap so it 141 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: doesn't smell. Yes, how often should you rent water so 142 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 6: that you don't have that problem? 143 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: And how much water? So all right, so let me 144 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: just at the stage for everybody else who may not 145 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: have heard that conversation with Mark Thompson. So Mark was 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: talking about the fact that he has one bathroom in 147 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: his home. The guest bathroom, and the sink gets used, 148 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: the toilet gets used, but the shower hardly ever gets used. 149 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: And they started developing this weird smell in the bathroom 150 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: kind of sounded like it smelled like a sewer issue. 151 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: And so I was explaining to Mark that every drain 152 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: in your home has that squirrely little pipe underneath it, 153 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: whether you can see it or not. You can totally 154 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: see these underneath the sink, because the sink's usually sitting 155 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: in a cabinet. You look underneath and it's where the 156 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: drain goes down and all of a sudden it curves 157 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: up and goes up again before it goes down the 158 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: rest of the way and into the wall and out 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: of the house. That squarely little piece which really should 160 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: be called an S trap because it's sort of S shaped. Somebody, 161 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't know whenever whoever, was laying on their side 162 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: apparently and decided to call it a P trap. It's 163 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: not pe like in the bathroom urine. It's they just 164 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: thought it looked like the letter P, although it lays 165 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: on its side, so I don't anyway. The PA trap 166 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: is it has one job. As one job, and people 167 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: have often asked, why do we have to have that 168 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: squirrely pipe attached to the bottom of our sink train, 169 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: And that is very simply this. The pa trap holds 170 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: the last little bit of water that goes down the sink, 171 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: last little bit. Okay, it holds it. And as a 172 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: result of holding it in that lower pipe, right in 173 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: that little droop of the pipe, that water becomes a 174 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: plug that stops sewer gases from coming up from the 175 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: main sewer system, from the city, from the street. The 176 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: whole thing keeps those gases from coming up through out 177 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: of the sink drain and smelling up the bathroom in 178 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: that way, or whatever room we're in. That's the job 179 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: of the pea trap. But of course, a sink, and 180 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: by the way, every drain, every drain, the toilet has 181 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: one built into it. Okay, the sink, you can see, 182 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: the shower, it's underneath the shower drain where you can't see. 183 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: But they all have them, all of them. And so 184 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: the thing is, water evaporates, right, So if you haven't 185 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: used something like the tub or the shower or the 186 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: sink in a particular room, you haven't used it very much, 187 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: or it's been you know, However, many days, especially during 188 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: the summer, right when it's warm and water is evaporating 189 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: faster than in cold weather, then that water in the 190 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: pea trap can start to evaporate, and as soon as 191 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: it gets to a certain level it's no longer high 192 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: enough to block out the sewer gases. The gases will 193 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: get through it, and as a result, you get that smell. 194 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: This is why a home that is like up for 195 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: sale that the cellar has already moved out of so 196 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: nobody's living there. Every good realtor knows this that they 197 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: need to get in there before an open house and 198 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: flush toilets and run a little water and sinks and 199 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: showers and tubs. Otherwise all that evaporation going to leave 200 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: the home smelling a little weird. Everybody I think I 201 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: know has walked into a house that smells an empty 202 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: house that smells a little weird. That's usually why it 203 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: smells weird. So to set that stage now, wrote it's 204 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: really really some pea trap is not very big at all. 205 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a cup a cup and a 206 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: half of water at the most, even on a big drain, 207 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: maybe two cups of water on a big drain, so 208 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: how much do you have to run it? Hardly at all? 209 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: You just need to turn it on for a couple 210 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: of three seconds and turn it back off and you're 211 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: good to go. And as far as how often, you know, 212 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: you got me on that one, because it really has 213 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: to do with how warm the house is, how warm 214 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: the weather is, and so on. But you know what, 215 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: once twice a week is plenty to keep the water 216 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: in the pea trap, right, But on a really warm day, 217 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: if it's really warm in the house, you could lose 218 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: you know, a quarter inch of water over a twenty 219 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: four forty eight hour period. So you know what, let's 220 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: say just a couple of times a week. Mark's issue, though, 221 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: just to cap it off, was that it had gone 222 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: long long enough that you know, some bacterias had kind 223 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: of taken hold on the lining of the sewer line. 224 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: So even though come in after the fact and start 225 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: running the water, he was still getting the smell. And 226 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: the reason is that those bacterias had just kind of 227 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: gotten a little out of control. And to that, what 228 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: I told him was, you get yourself some enzymatic cleaner, 229 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: some drain clean enzymes. Enzymes are the key enzymes. Are 230 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: these powerful little molecular components that break down organic organic 231 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: compounds so they can easily be broken down and disposed 232 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: of by friendly bacteria. And the one that I recommend 233 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: the most, which you can find at places like home 234 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Depot or Lows or the plumbing supply store or the 235 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: hardware store, is called Green Gobbler. Green Gobbler is just 236 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: a brand, but really great brand, and I recommend that 237 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: folks get some and you know, send it down their 238 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: drains every couple of time, you know, maybe twice a year, 239 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: just to clear out the guck that lines the drains 240 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: and keep your drains wide open and clear. So anyway, 241 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: that's it. That's the story. Row a couple of times 242 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: a week and it only takes you know, just you know, 243 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: turn it on for five seconds and turn it back 244 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: off and you have reset. The peach Trap wrote, thank 245 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: you for your question. All right, more great stuff on 246 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: the way. You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp the 247 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: House Whisper. 248 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 249 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. 250 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp the House Whisper here to help you take 251 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: your home to the next level. It's an all calls show. Today. 252 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. Ronan welcome home. 253 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 5: Thank you sir, thank you for taking my call. Well, 254 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 5: we had the house bolters underneath the house and they 255 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: told us that the the shower in our boys room 256 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: was leaking. They could see that with the water damages. 257 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: So we brought in a team and they did the 258 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: demo on the shower pan. The problem is that the 259 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 5: whole bathroom the house is built probably in the late twenties, 260 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 5: early thirties, and the whole bathroom has the same beautiful 261 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: tile that I want to keep it. You know, it's 262 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 5: not just in the shower, it's and then the rest 263 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: of the bathroom and the floor and the walls and 264 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 5: all that stuff. So I was hoping to try to 265 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: save the tile in the shower, and I had them 266 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: take off the first couple of feet so they can 267 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: do the hot mop and you know, and rebuild the 268 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 5: base and do the hot mop, and then we'll just 269 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 5: do a different tile, just a black tile on the floor, 270 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 5: because there's some black powerty in the in the shower. 271 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: But my buddy had me very worried that I'm making 272 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: a mistake and the water can still potentially get inside. 273 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 5: Oh if it's a mistake. 274 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's a mistake what you're doing. 275 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: You just have to make sure that the people who 276 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: doing the work know exactly what they're doing. I don't 277 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: think it's a mistake at all, because I totally get you. 278 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got a century home. You want to 279 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: preserve that beautiful bem, but you got to replace the 280 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: shower pan, right, and so the way to do that 281 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: is the shower pan has to go. That has to 282 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: be redone. And then you know it sounds like you've 283 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: done it exactly right, Go a couple of feet up 284 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: the wall, remove that tile, make a clean break, and 285 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: then the wall itself, the wall tile has got it's 286 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: got roofing paper behind it. Basically that is shutting down 287 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: water if that has not been a source of leaking 288 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: or any issues like that. Then carefully laying your your 289 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: new hot mop, shower pan or whatever material you decide 290 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: to use under you know, tucking it up underneath that 291 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: upper course of roofing paper, and then just ceiling the 292 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: heck out of it u and fixing any potential and 293 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: or tears that occurred in the roofing paper in the 294 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: whole process. In other words, if you can get that 295 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: tucked up underneath so that the overlap is uh is solid, 296 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: then you should be good to go. You really should 297 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 2: be good to go. And and here's the here's the thing. 298 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: You don't have to wait until you retile to find 299 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: out if you've done it right. And that's really really 300 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: important for you to know. Again, this is a situation where, uh, 301 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: you know, the tile was never the thing that was 302 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: waterproofing the shower. It was simply, you know, the first 303 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: line of defense. But water gets behind tile, Water gets 304 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: into the grout lines, and it gets into the thin 305 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: set the mortar behind the tile. Ultimately, the thing that's 306 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 2: waterproofing that shower is that paper, is that roofing paper 307 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: that's running up the walls. So once the shower, the 308 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: new shower pan has been repaired and put in, before 309 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: the new tile goes in, okay, before any tile goes in, 310 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: you can run the water in that shower and run 311 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 2: it at length. Let water just directly hit that roofing 312 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: paper and the tie in and the new hot mop 313 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: or whatever it is that you're doing there, Let it run. 314 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: Get somebody underneath the house to make sure that there 315 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: are no leaks, no sign whatsoever. You could run it 316 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: for an hour or two and simply let the water 317 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: run to make sure that the tie in has no 318 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: leaks in it. And if you don't see any water 319 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: intrusion after that period of time, then you've got the 320 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: green light to go ahead and put the mortar and 321 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: finish tiling up that job. 322 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 5: That's a great idea. I never would have thought of that, 323 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: and I feel so much better. 324 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 3: Yes, there you go. 325 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same, thank you. Yeah, you don't have to 326 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: go into it blind, just to go ahead and test 327 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: it once you're at the membrane stage, because the membrane 328 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: is the thing that's doing the work anyway, and that way, 329 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: if you get a leak, you can deal with it 330 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: right then and there and not be you know, worried 331 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: about about it. But yeah, we do that kind of 332 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: thing all the time. Just FYI want, especially when it 333 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: comes to a century home restoration and repair. So I 334 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: understand your friend's concerns, totally understand it. But it can 335 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: be done right, It can be done properly, and it 336 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: shouldn't be a problem down the road. Ronan, thanks for 337 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: your question and for your call. I want to talk 338 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: to Shannon. Hey Shannon, welcome home. 339 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 7: Hi, thanks for taking my calls. Well, I have a 340 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 7: pervasive gofer problem in my yards in my back and 341 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 7: my friend, which has prevented me how planting anything, and 342 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 7: mostly weeds are popping up and weeds die. And I 343 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 7: have all these hills and mounds and holes, and so 344 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 7: I wanted to do a native garden, but I don't 345 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 7: know where to begin and how to get rid of. 346 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 5: The gooshert. 347 00:19:53,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: Gophers Nature's annoying, adorable rodent. Okay, So Shannon, here's the thing. 348 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: Here's what I don't want you to do. Please do 349 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: not poison your gophers with a rat poison blood thinning 350 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: rat poison, because it is not only doing damage to them, 351 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: and yes, it will you know, knock out your gophers 352 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: in general, but it will end up damaging the entire 353 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: ecosystem around you. I'm not going to get on my 354 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: soapbox and talk about that. I'm just going to say, 355 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: don't do it. Blood thinners end up in all the 356 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: predators that eat the gophers as well, and it affects 357 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: everything well beyond the edge of your house. Now, you 358 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: can live trap gophers, or you can just kill them 359 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: dead with with the mechanical traps, but that doesn't solve 360 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: the problem because you know, it's just an ongoing war. 361 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: So in your situation and for everybody who has a 362 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: gopher issue, what I'm about to suggest may sound extreme, 363 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: but in reality it is actually the easiest, most stress free, 364 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 2: permanent way to deal with gophers in your yard, and 365 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: that is simply to not allow them in in the 366 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: first place. Now, how do you do that? Well, you 367 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: do that by again having a strong commitment, we don't 368 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: want gophers in this yard. What it means is this, 369 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: let's take your lawn, your planterbed areas, wherever it is 370 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: that you are planning on planting and don't want gophers 371 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: coming up. You're going to remove some soil okay, two, three, 372 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: sometimes as much as four inches of soil in an area, 373 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: and you're going to stake down and bury gopher cloth. 374 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: And what do I mean by gopher cloth? I mean 375 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: either a nylon cloth that is, and I say cloth, 376 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: it's actually full of holes. Okay, it's more like a mesh, 377 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: but basically think of chicken wire, but on a much 378 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: much smaller scale opening so that a gopher can't get 379 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: through a layer of chicken wire. Please forgive me for 380 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: using I just want everybody to picture what it is 381 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: that I'm saying, A layer of chicken wire buried a 382 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: couple of inches underneath the soil of everywhere in your yard. Okay. 383 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: The simple truth of the matter is the gophers can 384 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: tunnel underneath your house all they want and all around, 385 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: but they're not going to be popping up and they're 386 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: not going to be doing as much, if any, damage 387 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: to the roots of everything that's going down. Now. Will 388 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: they occasionally gnaw on a deeper root, sure, but not 389 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: to the extent that they're going to destroy anything. So, 390 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: without question, the once and for all solution for gophers 391 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: is actually to just put a fence in between them 392 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: and being able to pop up in your yard. 393 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 4: Awesome, that. 394 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: Is it is simple. I mean simple for me to say, so, like, 395 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: oh yeah, just to dig up all the dirt in 396 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 2: your whole backyard and completely cover it over with seamless fencing. 397 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: It's a task, it's a chore, but honestly, when you 398 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: think about, well, do we want to do that or 399 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: do we want to forever have gophers making holes in 400 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: the backyard. So this way, the gophers don't die, your 401 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: plans don't die. Your yard stays lovely, and you just 402 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: have a barrier. So it's a gopher bear. If you 403 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: go online, you're going to find all sorts of options 404 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: in that regard subterranean buried gopher barriers. You're going to 405 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: find them. You can price them out, you can make 406 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: your own decisions. But they work. I know they work. 407 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: We've seen them work. And at the end of the day, boom. 408 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: You do it once, you do it right, and you 409 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about it again. So Shannon, thank you, 410 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 2: good luck on that. Thanks for the call. More of 411 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: your calls on the way. You're listening to Home with 412 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp, the house whisper, Bean Sharp, the house whisper 413 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: here to help you take your home to the next level, 414 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: which we're doing today by going to the phones. Let's 415 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: get back to them. Hey, Jeff, welcome home. 416 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 8: Hei Den. Yes, I had a question for you. I've 417 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 8: got this crack that's going across in my slab at 418 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 8: that port contree slab on my house foundation in the 419 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 8: hallway and it goes a little bit into the bedroom, 420 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 8: so it's like a crack and I've been wanting to 421 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 8: lay some flooring there. I had a flying person in 422 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 8: there checking it out, and they said they couldn't do 423 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 8: it because they had the one the kind of flowing 424 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 8: that sticks to the slab. So I just wonder, is 425 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 8: that something I need to get sixed before I can 426 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 8: lay some flooring? 427 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: Like, okay, so you're going to be using floating flooring, 428 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: a laminate or a luxury vinyl plank, something that floats, 429 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: something that doesn't stick down. 430 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 8: I'd like to use something, you know, across their or 431 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 8: even get it repaired. 432 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, yeah, A couple of questions now 433 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: about the crack. You say it runs down the hallway 434 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: and then into a bedroom. How wide is the crack? 435 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: Is it what we call spider crack, just a nice long, 436 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 2: ugly crack or has it spread open? And is their 437 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: uplift meaning is one side now taller than the other 438 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: or has it just opened up? You know, that's what 439 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: we need to know about this crack, because not all 440 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: cracks are created equal, and not all cracks are actually 441 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: a concern on it from a structural perspective, and the 442 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: way that we approach filling them up or ignoring them 443 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: has everything to do with the nature of the concrete 444 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: crack itself, so describe it to me a little bit 445 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: more detailed. 446 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 8: Then covered with some cheap carpet for the last couple 447 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 8: of years. When I last looked at it, I would 448 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 8: have to say, it was just a bit uneven, you know, 449 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 8: not open to anything. Just their crack across the floor 450 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 8: and it's just a tiny bit uneven on each side, 451 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 8: if that makes sense. 452 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: Okay, So so it hasn't actually opened up. It's just 453 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: a it's it's just a crack that's running. And uh, 454 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, the cracks can typically be a little uneven 455 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: with each other. I mean, you know, once once a 456 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: crack occurs. But when I'm talking about uplift, is one 457 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: side like an eighth of an inch or a quarter 458 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: inch or worse higher than the other or uh is 459 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: it just you know, uneven concrete. Uh, you know, on 460 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: each side of the crack. 461 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 8: Not even any set of an nance recorder of an 462 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 8: inch sight in that area. 463 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: Okay. It sounds to me like this is not an 464 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: issue of of of any significant concern. Uh. People are 465 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: always shocked when they find cracks in their concrete slab, 466 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: and and people quite often get really concerned that, oh, no, okay, 467 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: my foundation is failing. 468 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 5: Uh. 469 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: But here's the thing that we say in the industry, 470 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: there are, uh, there are only two kinds of concrete 471 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: in the world, concrete with cracks and concrete that hasn't 472 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: cracked yet. It's just the nature of concrete for it 473 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: to experience that kind of stuff. Probably everybody listening to 474 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: us right now who has a concrete slab in their 475 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: house has got a crack somewhere, if not more than 476 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: one place. That doesn't mean the house is failing. So 477 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: what we look for when we get word of a 478 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: crack that has to be repaired, we want to hear 479 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: if the crack has opened up. I mean, like, if 480 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: there's a gap now from one side to the other, 481 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: that's something that has to be looked at. Or if 482 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: one side of the concrete has raised up above the 483 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: other side of the concrete what we call uplift, then 484 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: that's something to be concerned about that that least has 485 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: to be looked at. Even those, by the way, does 486 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 2: not mean that it's a failure and that can't be fixed. 487 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: When there's when there is a spreading of a crack, 488 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: an opening of a gap, but there's no uplift and 489 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: the and the spreading of the crack is minimal, but 490 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: there is a gap there, then we can come in 491 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: with with high pressure concrete epoxy and simply fill that 492 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 2: crack over and you end up making that crack actually 493 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: stronger than the concrete around it once it gets filled. 494 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: If this though, is not opened up, if there's no 495 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: gap and there's barely any disturbance or uplift at all, 496 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: then it's what we would call a spider crack. And 497 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: if you're concerned at all about like an uneven level there, 498 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: then a little bit of flooring leveler can be applied 499 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: to the concrete just to hit the edge that's a 500 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: little disrupted and then feathered out over a foot or 501 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: so to nothing, so that any flooring that you want, 502 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: be a tile or hardwood or something that glues down, 503 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: will have a smooth surface to work on. But if 504 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: you're planning on putting in a floating floor, you know, 505 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: carpet was a floating floor. It lays there, floats over 506 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: the surface of the of the concrete and only connects 507 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: on the edges. A luxury vinyl plank floor is a 508 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: floating floor basically lays there like a carpet, so is 509 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: a laminate floor. If that's the plan and this is 510 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: a minimal, minimal, minimal disturbance edge, then the fact of 511 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: the matter is you probably don't have to do anything 512 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: at all or worry about it in any way, shape 513 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: or form, because the floor is just going to float 514 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: over it, cover it over and it shouldn't be an issue. 515 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: So don't be alarmed just because there's a crack. Only 516 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: be alarmed if we have a crack in which the 517 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: concrete is gaping open or one side is up from 518 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: the other, because that becomes an indication that there may 519 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: be some deeper concerns that have to be looked at 520 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: by a professional, but not just typical spider cracking, especially 521 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: on an older slab, because it's gonna happen, my friend, 522 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: It's going to happen. 523 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 8: Thank you so much. I appreciate all that information. 524 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: You are so welcome, Jeff, thank you for the call. 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