1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Got me in the low Rider again. Many good. I'm 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: already sad. I'm suicidal right now. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: I think Ben stole your chair and then this has 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: definitely been I'm contractually obligated to set up hiring people, 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: which is why. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying right now, Ben, I don't want to hear 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: that mess right now. That was a tough one. Oh man. 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: It was brutal. It was brutal. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: So jump into this conversation we're having about the retractable roof. Now, 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: would you would you have you get with twenty thirty one, 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: when the Broncos News Stadium is ostensibly built, would you 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: have put the retractable roof up knowing that you were 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: going to have inclement weather for that game? 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean, if you have the roof, you got to 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: use it. That's the whole point of having it. And 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: I think, based on what I heard Dave say earlier 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: and I agree, in order to us to be to 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: get a Super Bowl, we got to be able to 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: have the conditions. And honestly, it's not a money issue. 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: It's a matter of it's a preference, right. I know, Denver, 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: we love outdoor, you know, uh, But if I got 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: a play in the snow. 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to. 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: I'm to be honest, but if we have to play 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: in store, my goal is to whoop your butt. No 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: matter where we play, Cherry Creek Parking. 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Lot, it doesn't matter. 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: So you don't matter what we play. You know what 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: I want to say. This is just off the bat. 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: I'm just so proud of this football team. I mean 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that we took the whole year. 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: And I say we because it hurt me. I just 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: went not there taking the hits. But I applaud each 34 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: and every one of those men for how they actually 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: played this season. It was a long, tough grind and 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: they did an excellent job. 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: And like I told them the. 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: Night before the game, I actually got to speak to 39 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: the group and it and I and I said, guys, 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: you don't I've been in three and one on them. 41 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: We lost. It hurts. 42 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: It still hurts to this day. And you don't want 43 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: that feeling. And unfortunately that's that's what we got. 44 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: Damn, your talk didn't work at all. No the hell, 45 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: I powerful take it. I'll take it. Hey, I you 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: know what I gave him. I get him what I 47 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: knew and a lot of guys did tell me that 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: they like what I said because it was literally from 49 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: the heart, because I want them to have that experience 50 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: of not just going to a super Bowl, but being 51 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: a super Bowl champion, because they always say that in 52 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: front of an eight from then on out. 53 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: And so now we got to reload and do it again. Yep, yeah, 54 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: I gotta find a way back. Ben. You wanted to 55 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: chime in and defend yourself here, Rod's right. 56 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 5: I mean they put that, they put that out in 57 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 5: front of you, like, you know when they prefer to 58 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 5: run heard them as a super Bowl champion, Rod Smith, 59 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: and they refer to me as hating Ben old Bright. 60 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: So you know that just sticks with you. But especially 61 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: like if you have the roof, you use it. I 62 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: don't want us to have a roof. 63 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 5: You do all things being all things being eager, you 64 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 5: do you would like the super Bowl here? 65 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: You you don't get a super Bowl. We'll never get 66 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: a super Bowl without a roof. I'm saying. I'm literally saying, 67 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: shut yourself and go to the restroom and just rethinking 68 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: blanks you can buy if we get this roof, how 69 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: am I going to get him working? I don't have 70 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: a roof. I got a roof, were the roof you 71 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: go hang outside? Well, we'll probably understanding. I'm saying, all 72 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: things being equal, obviously we're going to have a roof 73 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: because you have to have it to get a super 74 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: Bowl in the and all this final four, all that stuff. 75 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: If I had if I had my. 76 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 5: Preference and all things were equal, and we could still 77 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: get a super Bowl, it would be open air. 78 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So you would have kept the roof open on Sunday. 79 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna sat there this week and been warm 80 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: while everybody else was out there cold and shivering. 81 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: And Dave on record you said you would have closed 82 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: the roof because you had it on record. 83 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I gave you the look when you asked me the question, 84 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: like it's a dumb question. Thank you, thank you. Yes, 85 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: if they had a roof, I would have wanted the 86 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: roof shut Sunday in the second half, okay, rode everyone 87 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: out there as if you could go outside. I didn't 88 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: go out there. I stayed right behind the glass and 89 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: tell those people in front of me to move. As 90 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about all this people, I'm just sitting in 91 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: the suite where it's nice and warm. That's ridiculous. Ridiculous. 92 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: All right, Ron, So you know, we don't have to 93 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: go over too much from the game. 94 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: Certainly a lot of frustrations quickly though, because this is 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: our last chance to ask you about this until well 96 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: we get back to the football next year. The fourth 97 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: and one call. Just want to get your thoughts. 98 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: I personally, I was sitting there talking to people about it, 99 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: and you know, I like, hey, take the points. You 100 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: know you got your backup quarterback. I said, hey, you're 101 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: not wrong. I like the fact of saying I trust 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: my guys that I'm gonna go for. I just personally 103 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: didn't like the play call. I I I got a 104 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: three hundred million dollar offensive line. I'm going downhill. I'm 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: running either quarterback sneak or I'm I'm even the fullback 106 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: play to Prey before that was a great play for 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: first down, and I want some quick hit under center. 108 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: That's just me, I don't. 109 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: I mean, he got so much pressure so fast, which 110 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: I know that's not how to play with design because 111 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: I saw it the night before. I actually saw the plays, 112 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: which the first time I've been in a meeting like 113 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: where I could actually see the offensive plays. 114 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 115 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: So I appreciate them for giving me the opportunity. And 116 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: there's a second option on that play, and he never 117 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: even got a chance to get to the second option 118 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: because it was so much it was almost like a screenplay. 119 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: It looked like because they left the lineman through so fast. 120 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if they got beat or I deal 121 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: it wasn't designed because he had no chance with that 122 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: football as a quarterback. 123 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave, you did a breakdown. You and Nick took 124 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: a look at it yesterday, and that couldn't have been designed, no, 125 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: you said. In fact, I think you very plainly said, 126 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: this is a play that you probably didn't even want 127 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: to be in based on the look that the Patriots 128 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: were in. 129 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Well, to me, I think it's a play designed if 130 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: you're pretty sure you're gonna get man coverage, right, because 131 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: the play is designed for the We used to call 132 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: it dart for the tailback who's lined up behind that 133 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback, the guy that covers him is also lined 134 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the field exactly, and the 135 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: snap of the ball, the tail the running back runs 136 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: as fast as he can. We used to teach it 137 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: right off the butt of the inman line of scrimmage. 138 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: All right, Not not little Jordan Humphrey who came in 139 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: motion that he was a wing, but there was there 140 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: was a tight end inside of him. But there were 141 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: two and they ran. They ran two deep zoned, they 142 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: ran cover two. So the corner is sitting out, he 143 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: funnels little Jordan Humphrey inside and then he's sitting waiting 144 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: for RJ. Harvey. Plus, if you look to the play side, 145 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: and Jared had attorney's back on that play, so Jared 146 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: opens even though the play is a design roll of 147 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: the right, jaredt opens to the left, which allows the 148 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: back time to sync that thing up to where now 149 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Jared is rolling. The back is almost to the line 150 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: of scrimmage looking for the ball. Well, the man inside 151 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: of Mike McGlinchey, he didn't get touched, and the man 152 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: inside of Quinn Minors barely gets touched. So the defensive 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: end is a free runner to your quarterback who's opening 154 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: with his back to the free runner. 155 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: It just it. 156 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: It could not have been the way that they drew 157 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: it up, especially first COVID two, because there's a guy 158 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: sitting out there dead. But my thing is, if I 159 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: do my pre that breed and I see COVI two, 160 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm going downhill. That means you got a shell in 161 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: the back, you got less man at the lines, you 162 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: get two, you got two safeties out of run support exactly. 163 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: So that's that's where you wonder, and it would be 164 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: conjecture on my part. I don't know, but you wonder 165 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: at that point if Jared Sidham has the ability to 166 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: check into something else normally that quarterback I think would, 167 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: but I don't know that to be the case with 168 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. 169 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 5: My biggest thing was when everybody's focusing on the field 170 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: goal call and all this kind of stuff, My biggest 171 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: I guess gripe about anything was why do we burn 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 5: the time out before the punt? Already burned a time out, 173 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: We burned a time out before the pawn. On the 174 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 5: final possession, we turned around and called the short pass 175 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: play in bounds and then subbed guys off and it 176 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: allowed New England to sub and. 177 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: It cost us what twenty five seconds being. 178 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: Able to put together and then we had to throw 179 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 5: it deep, you know, and it gets picked off. 180 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: Like I didn't understand that sequence at all. 181 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: And it's not the first time late in the game 182 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 5: we've been caught napping, subbing people off on stuff like 183 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 5: that instead of going now. 184 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: I especially when we got the ball at the end, 185 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: to me, they conceded to give us five to seven 186 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: yard pass plays on the outside. 187 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: And I've said this all year, I. 188 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Don't see in our game plan where we have an 189 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: intermediate passing game like just we call it all thunder, 190 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: everybody runs six yards and turn around all pittance. 191 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Does anybody run ten yards and. 192 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: Turn around a quick out or slant or under route 193 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: five yards and end like a five yard in round. 194 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't see us running those. 195 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: Intermediate routes because because of the weather and the footing. 196 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: They were back eight yards in the snow, backing up 197 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: because they were afraid of the footing. So if I 198 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: can get quick passes. It seemed like whenever we want 199 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: to throw the short passing game, we throw it behind 200 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage to get the five yards instead 201 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: of running for five and catching it. And if he 202 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: slips or does anything wrong, it's a house call for us. 203 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: And I just thought they were in a covered three 204 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 3: look where they or even the quarters look where they 205 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: weren't gonna get beat deep. They refuse to get beat 206 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: deep That's why the guy was so far back. He 207 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: mims couldn't have passed him if he had a day. 208 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: That guy was so far back, he just couldn't have 209 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: done it. And so I just think having a spread 210 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: offense with a quick passing game, it ain't really quick, 211 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: but in the gun it's a three step, which is really. 212 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: Like a five step. 213 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: If you're on the center that you quarterback gets the 214 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: ball his head, he gets it out of his hand 215 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: and it's quick. The lineman don't have time to bat 216 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: it down and the guys can catch the ball. We've 217 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: systematically moved down the field because I believe they had. 218 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: It's almost like how people play free at the end 219 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: of the quarter, at the end of the half or 220 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: at the end of the game. 221 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: But we just got to get a field goal range, 222 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: you know again, Yeah, it's just it was so close. 223 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: I did like what Sean said earlier today about tough 224 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: losses and what they could do for a team. 225 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 6: I think you always have even in those other games. 226 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 6: I think it's important. I told our players, man, you 227 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 6: cannot We're we're in this industry. You're gonna You're gonna 228 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 6: get punched and have some tough losses that happened two 229 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 6: years ago in Kansas City, a year and a half ago. 230 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 6: And then we responded, you referenced a few games that 231 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 6: were holy cow difficult, but that can't discourage you from 232 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 6: coming back, or you're never gonna, you know, taste it. 233 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a great, great mindset, right, I mean, 234 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: you guys had it with Jacksonville, and in certainly absolutely. 235 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 3: I thought about that yesterday while I was sunking at 236 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: home eat my grandson's birthday cake. 237 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, screw the counties today, 238 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: they don't count. But uh no, I was. 239 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: I thought about that. Here's the here's the thing, this, 240 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: here's here's the only thing I thought about our Jacksonville loss. 241 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: And the only way that works is you got to 242 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: keep the core of your group who felt it. If 243 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: you could keep the core your group who felt it, 244 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: here's the thing. Even the coaches they felt it too. 245 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: And I've now seen that as some some some some 246 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: of them, uh you know, already moving around. And plus 247 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: team's gonna want to come poach our guys. When you're winning, 248 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: teams come poach you guys, and they you know rightfully so, 249 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: but you got to have the people in the building 250 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: who felt it the first time, and they go into 251 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: the offseason completely different. 252 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we we all did it. 253 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: It hurts so bad, and the pieces that we added, 254 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: they felt our pain and they went to work with us. 255 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: And you get back in that position again. Uh. 256 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: And and in the last two years I have to 257 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: give it to to to Bowl because as the leader 258 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: of that group. Great job, young man. He's done an 259 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: excellent job of leading that group. And I think those 260 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: guys are following him into a fire at any at 261 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: any point time in his career. 262 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: Dave's birthday cake your go to after tough losses. Usually Cobbler, 263 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: a good one man traveler. Hey, what kind of pete speech? 264 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: You know that? Hey my mom grew up in Texas 265 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: and pecan pie. Yeah, you really can't go wrong with either, 266 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: or you go. Are you a purist? No, I'm the 267 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: purest okay. Plus, I didn't want to play tight end. 268 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to play wide receive. So if you have 269 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: too much Ala mode, your ass is going outside and 270 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: play tight three points yeah, three point stances. Live a minute. 271 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: I got a block fifty six here? Oh no, put 272 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: me out there where I can run on twenty eight. Yeah. Yeah, 273 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: twenties and thirties, not fifties. Yeah, but I imagine you 274 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: can speak to that too. I mean as far as 275 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: tough losses in your career that fueled you field the team, yeah, Rod, 276 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: and Rod hit the point as he was talking about 277 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking, yeah, but that team, that team, that core, 278 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: that team was so good. You're talking about Hall of 279 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: Fame players. The guy sitting here that should be in 280 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. You know. The toughest one for 281 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: us was we lost to the Raiders in the playoffs 282 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: at our place, fourteen to twelve, had the ball in 283 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: the thirteen yard line, second down, throw a pick in 284 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: the end zone. That Raid team went on to win 285 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I never got to the Super Bowl. 286 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: So with Rod, that crew and they were a crew. 287 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Came back next year and it worked, and the next 288 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: year and it worked. But it doesn't always work that 289 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: way for teams. So you will always I mean that 290 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: was for me, that was That was January of nineteen 291 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: eighty one, right, So we're talking about forty seven years ago, 292 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: and I still remember that game because I was the 293 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: closest opportunity I had to get to a Super Bowl. 294 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: And we lost in the last sixty seconds of the 295 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: game because we threw a pick. And here's the thing. 296 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: You always felt you would get a chance to go back. 297 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's why I told him in the thing, I said, guys, 298 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: I told him in that meeting, I said, guys, let 299 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: me tell you something. 300 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: In this room, it will not be the same ever again. No, 301 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: you had thirty percent of your team is going to 302 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: be gone. 303 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: I said, it will never be the same people in 304 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: this room, and every last one of you is hand picked, 305 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: hand select I even asked the question, I said, how 306 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: many players in this room have ever won a Super Bowl? 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: One guy raised a hand. There's only one guy on 308 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: that team that won a Super Bowl. And I said, 309 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: I promise you the rest of y'all want to feel 310 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: like him. 311 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: Yep. 312 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: And I said, you got to go and don't leave, 313 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: as Mike used to always say, don't leave any stone 314 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: unturned tonight when you're prepared so you can go out 315 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: there and be prepared, so you can go out there 316 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: and play free and and and do your thing. And 317 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: it was it was just it was heard. It was 318 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: a heartbreaker for me, uh witness and that because I 319 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: believe those men deserve the opportunity. Well, they had the opportunity, 320 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: and only a few of them get it again, and 321 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: and hopefully they're together and they're here when they do it. 322 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: Bowie Broncos just announced that they, in addition to Joe 323 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: Lombardi being fired, wide receivers coach Carrie Colbert and cornerbacks 324 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: coach as In Lynch also. 325 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: They're gone gone. Yeah, Culbert, we sort of knew how 326 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: I talked. 327 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: They I had a great conversation with because he played 328 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: with me, uh one of my last year's in the league, 329 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: when I was hurt of the man. Carrie had some 330 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: good conversation I thought. I thought he did good with 331 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: the guys that he had, you know, as for us 332 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: getting getting something out of him, had a lot of 333 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: bench play, you know, some young guys that he actually 334 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: coached up real well, I did. I didn't expect that 335 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: because he and I talked last night, well the night 336 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: before I actually saw him. I actually sat there and 337 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: ate with him when I got to eat with it 338 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: with the team well after the meetings, uh. 339 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: So well, but today, so we were talking about a 340 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: little earlier. Sean Payton was asked about the wide receiver drops. 341 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: This year, and not only did he start talking about it, 342 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: then he started to talk about the mechanics of catching 343 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: catching passes okay, And it was kind of an interesting moment, 344 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: right because he you know, you don't usually hear that 345 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: like he's he could have been like, well, we like 346 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: our guys. 347 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: We're certainly, you know, looking into some things. We want 348 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: to be better. And then he said, this is how 349 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: you're supposed to catch football. Yeah, I mean, I you 350 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: know what. 351 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: There are different ways to catch football. Here's the key 352 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: catch it. 353 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 354 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: A Manusson is one. 355 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: Of well, I want to I love watching the Manissenter's play. 356 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: Manyon Santa's is a body catcher. When you hear people 357 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: say don't catch the ball with your body, my thing 358 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: is you catch the ball. Have the hell you catch 359 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: the ball. I don't like people say, oh, you got 360 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: to use your hands, But a lot of times you've 361 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: got to understand the situation. And sometimes you know why 362 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: most drops take place. And I can give you some 363 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: of the mechanic stand book because I've studied at all. 364 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: It's your feet. Most times guys are off balanced with 365 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 3: their feet. And that's why when I teach receivers, I 366 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 3: teach them to start, we start from the ground up. 367 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: They think catching the football is in their hands. I said, 368 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: if your foot is off a little bit, your hands 369 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 3: are proportionally gonna turn. And you got to understand how 370 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 3: to overcome that when that football is in the air 371 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: and the spinning and you're about to get hit. It's 372 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: not as easy as people think. But there's some moments 373 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: in these games that we've had this year that you know, 374 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: we definitely should have made some of these plays. You know, 375 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: there's some plays that should have been made. 376 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 377 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if you put that on a coach. 378 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: I personally put that on me the individual. If the 379 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: ball's coming to me and it touches my hand, if 380 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: it instagram is my fault. I don't care who threw it, 381 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: where they threw it. If it touched my hand, I 382 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: got to catch it. That's a mentality, and that's the 383 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: way I would coach it. This is our mentality. We're 384 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: going to be the best in the business at not 385 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: only getting open. We're gonna block our tail off and 386 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: when we get a chance to put that ball in 387 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: our hand with making plays simple as that. 388 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave, you said some similar things about accountability about 389 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: an hour and a half ago. Interesting about the feet 390 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: that we really say, He's absolutely right. He's absolutely right 391 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: in terms of feet. You know, I've I mean, I 392 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: played for a handful of really good technicians at wide receiver. 393 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: And the first one I ever said that to me 394 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: is Raymond Barry, my first receivers coach. He gus in 395 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, he said, And I had no 396 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: idea what the hell he was talking about. He said, 397 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: your feet, your feet catch the ball. And I'm like, 398 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: does he really think my feet like catch the ball? 399 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: Didn't know what he meant, but it's absolutely true. And Rod, again, 400 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: we just see we see the game in a similar fashion. 401 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: And I had said, whatever would we talk about four 402 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: four o'clock? Yeah, I said, listen, you know it's it's 403 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 1: one thing to say about. Hey, you got to always 404 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: catch the ball in your hands. And I was a 405 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: hand catcher. But there are times, just like I said, 406 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: you go across the middle of the field, you're you're 407 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: in I called it the DMZ zone. You're in a dangerous, 408 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: dangerous spot. There are times where it's stop hand to 409 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: catch hand and you're gonna get that thing in your 410 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: body so that you can protect yourself and hang on 411 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: to the ball. And so the people that say you've 412 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: got to extend your hands away from your body with 413 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: your thumbs together, and that's how you catch every pass 414 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: now to me are guys that never played the position. 415 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: And man, no, you know what because you know what happens. 416 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: And this is when I when I specially I talk 417 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: to young guys me and you are standing here catching 418 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: the football. You're balanced, but when you run and then 419 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you got to stop. What if 420 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: your foot slips a little bit. Now one foot's back, 421 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: one foots forward. Wear are your hands now? Your hands 422 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: actually shift? And so I make guys catch the ball 423 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: off balance. We've worked on off balance drills because when 424 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: you're doing it full speed and somebody's about to hit you, 425 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: you don't have time to think about it. But you 426 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: have to have rept it thousands of times. And so 427 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 3: for me, when if I dropped the football, I could 428 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: tell you exactly why. 429 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: A couple of texts here, David Ryan, please let Rod 430 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 2: know that I believe he should be in the Hall 431 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: of Fame. 432 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. Here here's why I brought it up. 433 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: Somehow I got about a five, six, seven texts in 434 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: here saying that you should be the wide receiver coach, 435 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: although we also got about a dozen or so in 436 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: the first hour seeing Dave should be the wide receiver. 437 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: Coach, would be the wide receiver coach, and I go 438 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: coach creaky, We'll go oh and twelve. 439 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: I doubt that. I doubt that. I doubt that. Hey, 440 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: loving coach, I'd tell you that. Hey, Hey, Rod, Rod 441 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: and I talked about this. It was real close, Yeah, 442 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: both of me for me coaching Rod and Eddie. Yes, 443 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: back in two thousand, Yes, Mark, it was hard to 444 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: hard to not do that, not hard to say no opportunity, Yeah, 445 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: huge one. Hey, you get guys like him and Eddie 446 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: makes your job, makes your job a lot easier as 447 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: a coach, for sure, because you know what, it's a 448 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: respecting too. 449 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: And I think when the guys respect the coach, they 450 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: listen differently. You know, they they really hear them, and 451 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: they understand it. He's showing you and teaching you things 452 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: that you don't know. I mean, I and not not 453 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: to the some of the Broncos receiver, but it's been 454 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: some of the Broncos receiver that I've talked to and 455 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm talking to about things and I'm like, I don't 456 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: hear the answer that I want to hear. So I'm 457 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: a little biased, but I'm like, this theed some of 458 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: these basics, to me, should be taught, and I don't 459 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: know where it gets lost or mixed because to me, 460 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: I believe because I've never been a receiver coach at 461 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: the pro level or a receiver coach period. But you 462 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: still have to be in the confines of the offense 463 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: according to your head coach. You know, that's the guy 464 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 3: that tells you how to coach your guys and how 465 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: to get them prepared. I think you put the drills 466 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: and all that stuff together, But to me, I still 467 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: believe the game is way more mental. It's a mentality 468 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: that you're going to be so prepared that all I 469 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: see is your athleticability. 470 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: When when when when? When that when? That? 471 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: Uh, when that horn goes off for us to get started. 472 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: All you gonna see is just guys moving and making places. 473 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: So I think it's just asked you what did you 474 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: think about the move moving on from Joe Lombardi the 475 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator when you heard about it? 476 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: You know what I For me, it's it's it's a 477 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: different situation because he's the offensive coordinator, but coach coach 478 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: calls the plays, you know, and so I don't. And 479 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 3: that's a tough spot. You know, that's a tough spot 480 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: as an officive coordinator. And if you don't call the 481 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: plays as well, and you see some of the head coaches, 482 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: some of your honestly some of your smarter veteran coaches, 483 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: they do call the plays. 484 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: You know. 485 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's from what I understand with the forty nine 486 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: is he calls the plays. A lot of the coaches, 487 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: some of your top, especially offensive minded coaches, they call 488 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: the plays. And then the offensive coordinator, I don't know, 489 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: is your is your role to put the plan together, 490 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: But I get to teach the play and it's almost 491 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: like I put all these increases in here and somebody 492 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: else comes here and cooks. 493 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if that's gonna work. Well, No, 494 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's exactly right. 495 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: And part of the reason, Dave, that I that we 496 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: have this situation where Sean has so many of these 497 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: coaches that he knows so well is because they tend 498 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: to be able to communicate his system, right I mean 499 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: that's why you bring in Pete Carmichael and Joe Lombardi 500 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: and Darren Rizzio a special teams obviously, but Zach Streef 501 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: on the offensive lines. Because the head coach can't be 502 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: responsible for all of the teaching that happens with the 503 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: assistant coaches and the players at all times. 504 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: No, I think that. I mean that even in the NFL, 505 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: the head coach spends time teaching his assistants. And I 506 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: don't mean like like grade school kids teaching, but the 507 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: assistant coaches are around the head coach enough to know 508 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: here's the system, here's how he wants it taught. I 509 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: can tell you know, assistant coaches can sort of get 510 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: the head coach's temperament, like and they know if you're 511 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: a receiver coach and all of a sudden you're supposed 512 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: to push crack and you push, but don't crack. That 513 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: receiver coach knows I know this. When the head guy 514 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: sees this, this is not going to be good because 515 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: they know they know what the head coach wants. That's 516 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: when I think you have really the best staff overall, 517 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: when you get guys that understand you got to have 518 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: a good head coach, but they understand what he's trying 519 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: to teach, they understand what's going to be acceptable effort 520 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: from players, and then they are the buffer. That receiver 521 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: coach can talk to his receivers because he talks to 522 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: him every day in a way that they don't have 523 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: that kind of relationship with the head coach. But that 524 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: receiver coach might say, Bro, I'm just telling you, the 525 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: head guy's head is going to come off when he 526 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: sees this. We got to get this fixed. That's when 527 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: you know you've got the right kind of staff around Joe. 528 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's every to me from what I've been 529 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: from just playing and listening and watching and being in 530 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: some meetings and stuff. The assistant coaches are an extension 531 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: of the head coach. If he's got to go through 532 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: there and police your group, he's gonna get rid of 533 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 3: that coach if you better. You don't get to work 534 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: in the NFL without some form of connection. You know 535 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And he said, if this guy is 536 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: smart enough to pick up what I'm trying to get 537 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: related to my guys, and he can go over there 538 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: and do it, I'm not going over there to police 539 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 3: them and make sure it's done. I'most see in the game, 540 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: and I go look at the tape and they then 541 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: bust three routes and this, this and that, and they 542 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: can't tell me why he's. 543 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Going right to the receivers going to the coach. 544 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: He's not gonna yell at the players per se, but 545 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: he going to the coach and they gonna get it. 546 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: And that's why I respected my receivers coach to the fullest, 547 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: and I kept in dialogue with them because I didn't 548 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: get to talk to Mike Shanahan all the time, but 549 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: I could talk to coach Kobeak. I'm a dinger and 550 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: I were like great friends, so I could. And you 551 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: know what, he had the right to yell at me 552 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 3: and scream at me and practice if I'm getting it wrong. 553 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 3: And my job was to make sure he didn't yell 554 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: to scream at me, because I mean, he was getting 555 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: yelled to scream at if if I was getting. 556 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: Yelled to screen. Normally, players just have an affinity more 557 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: so for the position coach than they do for either 558 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: the coordinator or head coach. I remember, as a young 559 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: player in the league, I had never heard this before, 560 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: but the head coach in a meeting watching film, said 561 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: I tell you what's gonna happen with your receivers. You're 562 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: gonna wind up getting your receiver coach fired. Yeah, like 563 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: what what? Oh? No, we didn't want that, but that's 564 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: that was the message. Hey, y'all better pick this up, 565 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna have another guy coaching you. 566 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: That's kind of building right. Well, I turned into it 567 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: because we liked our receiver coach. Jay Gruden just tweeted out, damn. 568 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: Joe Lovardi got fired o C at Broncos tough business. 569 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: Lost in the af AFC Championships with a backup quarterback. 570 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: Guess he made the call on fourth and two not 571 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: to kick the field goal. Got a tea time at 572 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: noon tomorrow, Joe, give me a call. 573 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Damn, that's why he got fired. Well was this record, 574 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: Jay Gruden? It was that good. I bet you think 575 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: to a NFC champion game. 576 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: Look him up. 577 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: You missed the tech remember what he did? See those 578 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: guys on those shows. 579 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: Man, I'll be getting so pissed because I'm like, I 580 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: know your personal resume. 581 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: It's not that good. So you be talking all that noise. 582 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: J won? 583 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 584 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: He won three two three Arena Bowls the UFL and 585 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: then he that's like playing PlayStation no disrespect people play 586 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: arena ball. They won the NFC East, I think his 587 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: second year in Washington, the NFC East. That means you 588 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs and I bet you got the 589 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: breaks beat off of them. They lost to the Packers 590 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot too little. There you go back to look, 591 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're you're absolutely right. 592 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: I mean I respect those guys because it's worked, but 593 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: they just talk down. That's why I can't do it. 594 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't. I don't believe in talking down 595 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: to people. 596 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Especially. 597 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: This business is hard, man. The business of football is 598 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: a very difficult business. Uh. It's way more mental mentally 599 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: taxing than people even remotely think it is. They think 600 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: it's all physical. Probably one of the most stressful times 601 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: of my life was being a pro athlete. Physically, I was, 602 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: of course in better shape, but mentally I. 603 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: Was a wreck. Because it's just so. 604 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: It's if you're talking about unnerving and unhinged and all 605 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: the other uns you can come up with. Being a 606 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 3: pro athlete is you don't get much sleep. I'm just 607 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: being real. As a player, you don't get much sleep. 608 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: Even if you people think you're the superstar, trust me, 609 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: the stress level is at an all time high trying 610 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: to perform day in and day out. 611 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: They lost, Ye, they know his offensive coordinator was his 612 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who was the coach of Washington Washington, Kyle Shanahan. 613 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Sean McVay. That's why McVeigh got away from him. 614 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: And you know McVeigh didn't hire. 615 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: Him, uh mcig he well, John hired Sean first he 616 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: was a wide receivers coach in Tampa, and then when 617 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: he went up he attained him from you know. 618 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Mike Staff. So yeah, now, Dave, they're gonna have to 619 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: go through the process here. 620 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: How do you try to get out in front of 621 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: the other three teams and actually that it might even 622 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: be more OC jobs that are open right now. 623 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: How quickly you want to move on this thing depends 624 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: on who you're thinking about and how long. How long 625 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: Sean has been thinking about this. If he's been thinking 626 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: about it for a while, which I believe he has, 627 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: then he probably has two or three people he wants 628 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: to talk to immediately, and I would imagine contact has 629 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: already been made with them. 630 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think this will take too 631 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: long and will leave it at that. I like that 632 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: nobody gets to see the rye smile on that. 633 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: No, I don't think it will take too long. Okay, 634 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: we got to say goodbye. That's that's what that means. Rod. 635 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: What a season, man, Thank you for having it. It's 636 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: been a lot of fun, free stuff in anytime. 637 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, man might come in here, man and bring some 638 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: cobb or something. I don't know, pot pie. All right, 639 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: I kept both recipes making burbon. There you go. I 640 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: suppose I can. Okay, I'll bring system. I'll bring you 641 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: some bourbon. I'll bring you. 642 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: I got I haven't a small bats one in the hat, 643 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: A little bottle of bourbon, little bottles around here. 644 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, Ben, good job doing your best. 645 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Leo DiCaprio impression of what is that movie that he 646 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: just came out with? Uh? 647 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: Everything after another? One thing? Titanic? What Battle after enough? 648 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Doing my uh my Kate Whisler of depression. All right, 649 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna go, Grant have a good show with Nick 650 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: next