1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Well, the best time of the day. I get us 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,039 Speaker 1: sickod afternoon and welcome. You're at home with Gary Sullivan. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: And I know there's no armadillos in Ohio, but it 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: was kind of interesting reading about them during the break. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Sounds to me like armadillo is not that we'll probably 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: have them for a while, but sounds like a mixture 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: of skunks and moles. And because they're talking about keeping 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: them away from decking underneath decks, you got to put 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: in a barrier like a underground fence. When I say moles, 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: mixed castor oil with water spray around the yard. Sometimes 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: the smells will repel them live traps. And then it 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: goes back to the old remedy. Wildlife control services. They've 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: got the equipment and knowledge to safely remove armadillos. I 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: wonder if our friend Ron Krueger at A one pest 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: or ay one wildlife control out of the Actor area 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: has ever removed an armadillo. I have to check with them. 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, they they're burrowers. They go at night, and 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: so anyway, that's interesting that they're in Missouri. That is interesting, 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: all right. Our phone number is eight hundred eighty two 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: three eight, two, five five and Mark, you're Batten. Welcome. 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Hey Gary. Yes, I have a question for you, and 22 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: it's regarding a new home construction we want to do 23 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: next year, and my question is regarding heating system. So 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: we currently have a home as a natural gas fired 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: gas spoiler with a hydraunic heating system. Very happy with 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: I like it. The only drawback is the you know, 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: the central air. You have to figure out how to 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: do that. And we did a space pack of any 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: duct system right in the new home I don't have 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to have access to natural gas, only 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: electric or propane. So you know, my question is, you 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: know what seems to be the most efficient and comfortable 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: you know these days? Is it going to be more 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: of an electric heat pomp with a propane backup? 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, tough to answer because of the whole demand for electricity. 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been reading about it, and a lot 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: of it is just with all the data and the 38 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: computer servers. My daughter's kind of involved in that industry 39 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: and she was explaining to me that what a huge, 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: massive problem that is. One of the things that she 41 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: was also talking about is and it would make sense 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: for you to explore this. It would be like geo 43 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: thermal heating. 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: Right, a closed loop system. 45 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds like you have thought of that, 46 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: so forecasting in the future I can tricky. In fact, 47 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: when I started radio forty years ago, is my first 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: question is should I put in electric or gas? Which 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: one should I do? And you know, at that point 50 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: it was go gas, you know, go gas, And now 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: the pricing is is pretty comparable. There's it's a push. 52 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't know about the future, and I'm talking about 53 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: the you know, with a new home, you really got 54 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: to be looking much more in the future, right, And 55 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: so I would still say, you know, I would still 56 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: lean towards gas or pro pane, but the cost of 57 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: electricity down the road and maybe even the scarcity of 58 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: it might be an issue. So I'm starting to think 59 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: maybe geothermoa take a look. 60 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: At Yeah, I mean, what do you think about the 61 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: same thing with a hydraunic system but with a pro 62 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: paane fire boiler? 63 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I guess yes would be an answer. 64 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: I guess where I'm going on is I haven't done 65 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: a study between all three mark, and I'd hate to say, yeah, 66 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: just go this way or that way. I would say 67 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: a pro pain like you were speaking of would be 68 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: certainly one I would investigate. I would also investigate, you know, 69 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: the geothermal, and then take a look at the electricity 70 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: and then kind of look at where you are today 71 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: and really working with someone that's really in the industry. 72 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: I know, train they're they're spinning off different things where 73 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: they're really doing I don't want to use the word 74 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: carbon neutral, but it's just they're doing a lot of 75 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: developments on what is the next big thing? In other words, 76 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: what are we where should we be going? And so 77 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: maybe talking with a train dealer on your options there 78 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: and comparing those and they may have a lot on 79 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: their website. I haven't checked, but I think you've got 80 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: to look at all of the above, which is kind 81 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: of what you're doing, but really dealing with the data 82 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: and long range data which is going to be difficult. 83 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: So finding somebody that's kind of on the cutting edge 84 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: of that, and from what I can see right now, 85 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: it would probably be trained and maybe trained dealers can 86 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: help you a little bit more with that. But I 87 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: think I would be intrigued. You know, we were pretty 88 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: gun ho on the whole geothermal thing about twenty twenty 89 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: five years ago, and it seemed to have lost a 90 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: lot of momentum, but I feel that's coming. 91 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: Back if you go a you know, hydraunic system. What 92 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: about Central Air again? Is there anything that's changed out there? 93 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: No, I think you're what did you use the phrase 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: before the mini. 95 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: Mini death systems like stay is? Actually a company makes 96 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: that and they don't have to duplicate registers and that right. 97 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: Right, No, I still think that's the way to go. 98 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: I do think that is the way to go. I 99 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything much more advanced than that right now. 100 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well thank you for I hope. 101 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I helped a little. 102 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks, thanks, take care. 103 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: It's good to Mike, Mike, welcome. 104 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: I got two questions, all right. One is when ish 105 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: I only caught the end of the order exit interview. 106 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: Did she claimed that that worked really good on cat oders? 107 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? It does, and she's I've been talking to her 108 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: and she has been a sponsor show I'm gonna guess 109 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: twenty some years, so I'm pretty familiar with it, and 110 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: she's got some great stories to prove her point. And 111 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: with the Cats, there was one woman I'll just repeat 112 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: a story, then I'll give you some tips. She was 113 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: talking about this lady who had a lot of cats 114 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: and in a condo to a point where she was 115 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: going to be evicted or get rid of all the cats. 116 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: And it was the smell in night was so strong 117 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: as permeating the other units and everything else. It was 118 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: a disaster. And this lady called her up and they 119 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: did rectify the situation. She had to get rid of 120 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: the cats, but literally they had no idea how they're 121 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: going to clean this up. And the old exit eliminator 122 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: on multiple applications eliminated the smell where she could stay 123 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: and other people stayed and all that. The secret for 124 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: you and I to use that in our home in 125 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: any case, whether it's a strong or mild case, is 126 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: to identify where it said. I think I don't know 127 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: what part of the interview you said the end. I 128 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: don't know where we talked about it. She was talking 129 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: about identifying where it is. Cats can use your couch 130 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: as a litter box. They could use the corner where 131 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: the carpet is is a litter box. There could be 132 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: spray on the wall in the corner, So you got 133 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: to get it all okay. So she has a black 134 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: light or any black light will work. She has a 135 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: little flashlight that is a black light. It glows, okay, 136 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: and then you know where it is. 137 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: Now on the subject of shingles, Oh wait, on the 138 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: odor exit, do you have to pull the carpet up 139 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: and do the floor as well, or we'll go right 140 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: through the pad and all that. 141 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Well, it depends, right, I mean, And she said in 142 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: the corner she would pull the carpet up because that's 143 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: usually a prime spot. So if you if you see 144 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, cat urine in that area, 145 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: she felt it would be best to pull the carpet up, 146 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: spray the pad, spray the floor because it's got to 147 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: be it's kind of got to be saturated. Now, the 148 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: floor is probably protected with a eurythane or ovarni, so 149 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: it may not have penetrated in the floor, but certainly 150 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: the pad. So you gotta wet that area down thoroughly. Okay. 151 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: Now on shingles, don't they make like a glue where 152 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: you can just resand and glue the sand under the 153 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: shingles without replacing them. 154 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: They have a product that can be sprayed over a 155 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: granular covered shingle that will stop the decay of the 156 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: shingle and the loosening of the granules. I don't know 157 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: where you could actually add granules to it. 158 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: Well, they must make a glue that you could put 159 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: on the shingles and then anything that sticks to it. 160 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: Don't you think that would protect them? 161 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: Well, sand well, I don't know that. I don't know that, 162 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and it's it is a sealant, but I don't know 163 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: if it's a glue. In other words, I hear what 164 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: you're saying, and I know what they tell me. So 165 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: it is a sealant that is sprayed over and resisting 166 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: shingle and fortifies the granular granular material that's on the 167 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: shingle itself. In fact, when I talk to their technology 168 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: departments and asking them questions, I asked them, can you 169 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: do all roofs And the answer was no. We look 170 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: at the roof and we determine how much what stated 171 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: decay decay it is in and if we can do it, 172 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: there's enough on that shingle, we'll do it and guarantee 173 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: it for five years. So they didn't talk to me 174 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: about adding material. I don't know the grains that are 175 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: on the shingle themselves. If it is just sand, it's 176 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: a protectant, but I don't know if it's sand, So 177 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: I just don't know, to be honest with you, Mike. 178 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: When I've seen it, it's very thin. I don't think 179 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: you'd be able to throw sand on there and have 180 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: its stick, and I don't think it'd match. And I 181 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: think there's a multitude of issues at that. All right, 182 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: we'll continue with your calls. You're at home with Gary 183 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: Sullivan right here on fifty five K see detalk station. 184 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: All right, back at it. We go at home with 185 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Gary Sullivan coming up at the bottom of the hour. 186 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: And this might be interest to a lot of people. 187 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: And that is our waistline that goes from our house 188 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: out to the sewer system. We have different ages of homes, 189 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: of course, with some brand new ones back in the thirties, twenties, fifties, sixties. 190 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: In a lot of cases we have the wistlines that 191 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: aren't as good as they are today. We have clay 192 00:12:51,200 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: pipes with seams, we have a lot of clay soil routes, 193 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: we have heavy rains, we have a lot of ground movement, 194 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: and those pipes become compromised that's one issue when they 195 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: become compromised. We have a tendency to get tree roots 196 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: into the seams of those pipes, which are little tentacles 197 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: that collect gunk in a wasistline, and sometimes those seams 198 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: are separated, sometimes they're cracks. Sometimes it's just they're great pipes. 199 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: But we get accumulation of wipes and different things that 200 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: go down the toilet, and really, you know, many of 201 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: us almost need grinder pumps to get that liquefied before 202 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: going down the toilet. It's becoming a problem. We'll talk 203 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: to some folks that are going to talk about that, 204 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: and we're also going to talk about what happens when 205 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: it's such a problem that you're told that pipe needs 206 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: to be replaced. That's a big problem. There's newer technology 207 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: that's being used where they actually use i'll call it 208 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: a bladder through that pipe, and we're gonna have that 209 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: whole discussion at the bottom of the hoar in the meantime. 210 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: One of the earlier callers today, and when I first 211 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: started the show, I talked about gutters and all the 212 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: leaves they're changing their beginning to follow, et cetera, et cetera. 213 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: You promise yourself that you're going to clean that out 214 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and you're going to put a hose down the down spot, 215 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: and you're going to make sure that water's exiting away 216 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: from the house. And then we had somebody who was 217 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: going to tackle the job of installing his own gutters, 218 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: which is fine, but he was asking about the slope 219 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: on the gutters. So he wasn't experienced hanging gutters. That 220 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't do it, You just got to 221 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: know some information on how to do it. And the 222 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: slope is key, which also kind of ties in to 223 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: the first part of the show that we were talking about. 224 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: So then the slope on a gutter is usually and 225 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: I'd said a quarter of an inch drop for every 226 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: ten foot of gutter. So if you got a twenty 227 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: foot length, it's a half inch forty foot, it's a 228 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: whole inch from the high end to the down spout. Obviously, 229 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: the slope is always towards the down spout. So the 230 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: best way to do it is and I was talking 231 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: to him about brackets. He wasn't sure about the brackets. 232 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: He was going to overlap the gutters. There's brackets, there's 233 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: a coupler, and there's not necessarily the use of a 234 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: farrow and nail anymore. We have brackets that go underneath 235 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: the gutter, so you can start at the high point 236 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: and the low point to get your slope and a 237 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: chalk line and install your brackets to hold the gutter. 238 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: That's how you're gonna get your slope, which kind of 239 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: reminded me of the first part of the show when 240 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: I talked about let's clean that gutter out, Let's make 241 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: sure the water's running to the down spout, make sure 242 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: the water is going away from the foundation, whether underground 243 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: or above ground, which got me kind of thinking, I 244 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: wonder if anybody is concerned or has checked the slope 245 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: on your existing gutters, because a lot of gutters. In fact, 246 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: a house just across the street from me the other 247 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: day was having their gutter new gutters put on. And 248 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: with the amount of downpours that we've had this year, 249 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: and I'm getting a lot of calls across the country 250 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: about this issue. A heavy rain is a heavy rain now, 251 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: and there seems to be more of them, and we 252 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: see to seem to have more run off over the 253 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: gutters than I ever remember talking to homeowners about. And 254 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: I'm always talking. When I started doing a show many 255 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: moons ago, a lot of people had four inch gutters, 256 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: and now the standard is pretty much five. But I'm 257 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: also having a lot of people talking to me about 258 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: six inch gutters. And today the light bulb went off 259 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: and thought, one thing I haven't really ask them is 260 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: have you checked the slope on your gutters? Right? So, 261 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: if you have a steep roof and five inch gutters 262 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: used to carry that away. Yeah, and maybe the excessive 263 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: amount of rain that we have been having over the 264 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: last five ten years, especially especially five, maybe you do 265 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: need a six inch gutter or maybe that five inch gutter. 266 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that slope isn't what it used 267 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: to be. And you know, putting a level on that 268 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: gutter would probably tell you what kind of slope you have. 269 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want it where that bubble is 270 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of the level, you know, the bubbles 271 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the range. It should be 272 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: a little outside of it. I'm sure we can find 273 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: out exactly how much, but I'm I'm gonna guess probably 274 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: an eighth of that bubble should be sticking out of 275 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: the level range and you would probably be good. But 276 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: if you put that level up there, and that baby's 277 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: right in the middle. It's a level. There's your problem. 278 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's not so much the size of the gutter. 279 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: You've lost the slope on that And how's that happen? Well, 280 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: especially in older gutters, you didn't have brackets. You literally 281 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: had a nail and a farrell or a screw and 282 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: a farll or nine ten inches long, and it's you know, 283 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: it's just screwed into the facian. Hopefully something behind that, 284 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: but not always, and it just kind of segs and 285 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: we start not having a slope. So when you're cleaning 286 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: them out and you're testing the slope and you're testing 287 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: the water, how that's flowing. Not a bad idea. Get 288 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: a level up there too, and check and make sure 289 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: we have that proper slope on that gutter. All right, 290 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: we'll take a break and we'll come back and we'll 291 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about wastelines as we continue at 292 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: home with Gary Salvan right here in fifty five care 293 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: see de talk station. All right, back at it we go. 294 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: A lovely day, a little windy, nice and warm out there, 295 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: though it rains on its way later tonight tomorrow looks 296 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: like a wash out and temperature's fallen. Most of the day. 297 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: We've been talking to home improvement covering a lot of ground. 298 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: We're going to cover a trenchless sewer and drain repair. 299 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Precision Pipeworks is the name of the company. Dave Crook 300 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: is a gentleman I'm talking to and Dave, welcome to 301 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: that home with Gary Salvin. How you do today? 302 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: Good Gary? 303 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing fine? So I guess before we 304 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: get rolling, first explain what a trenchless sewer and drain 305 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: repair is. 306 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: Trenchless sewer so when you look at the old traditional 307 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: you typically you know you get a broken pipe or 308 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: some roots in the line. Someone will come in and 309 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: traditionally they're going to go ahead and dig it up, 310 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: and unfortunately when you do that, you know you've got 311 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: some landscaping and stuff that may have to come out. 312 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: But with trench lists, as long as the condition of 313 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 4: the pipe allows us, we can actually put a new 314 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 4: pipe inside a pipe and you don't have to do 315 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: any digging outside. 316 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: So we live in a area and a climate where 317 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: we have a lot of play soil, and just going 318 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: through a little mini drought we had, I've noticed the 319 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: soil pulls away from the foundation, it shrinks and expands 320 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: A lot is what kind of pipe is on our 321 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: waistline that's going out to the street. 322 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 4: Typically in the Cincinnati area you have the old clay 323 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: tile piping, so you'll have cast iron coming out of 324 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: the house which turns into clay outside to the city main. 325 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Is that generally the problem then that type of pipe 326 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: with that kind of soil. 327 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll have that, and you know, especially when it 328 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: gets dried out, you know, your roots are looking for 329 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: a water source. And with the clay pipe, you have 330 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: the have the joints and your roots will start growing 331 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: through the joints and you know, eventually could break the 332 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: pipe and separate it. 333 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: So so when somebody will run a camera down there 334 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: and say, boy, you got problems. You got roots roots 335 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: down there? Can the pipe be damaged? Also? Does it separate, 336 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: does it get crushed or what's causing the problem. 337 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of times what happens is you know 338 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: the roots, the roots know to go to the pipe 339 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: because water starts to exit the joints over time, and 340 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: what will happen is that will slowly you rode away 341 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 4: at the soil as well. So and as the roots 342 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: in the roots that you know, as the tree gets 343 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: bigger every year, the roots get bigger and they come 344 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 4: through the pipe and it breaks that that tile pipe. 345 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: I was down at the Zoalor Pump company about two 346 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: or three weeks ago and they were telling me, you know, 347 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: all these wipes and different things that get flushed down 348 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: the toilet are also a big part of the problem. 349 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: And their grinder pump business has exploded. Does that help 350 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: or hurt the situation or does it make any difference. 351 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: There's still some things that you don't want to, you know, 352 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: put put down a drain, you know, you want to 353 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: you know, just put toilet paper in there. You don't 354 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 4: want to use, you know, paper towels and stuff like that. 355 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 4: That's because stuff like that we'll catch on on the 356 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: roots and the jagged pipe and cause issues. 357 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: And bottom line is we got to fix it. So 358 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: you do a trenchless your your company precision pipework so 359 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: it's locally owned, better owned. Uh. What what type of 360 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: service area do you have? Uh? 361 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: We cover we cover the you know, the tri State 362 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: will cover northern Kentucky, Cincinnati, a little bit in the 363 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 4: Indiana and the Dayton area as well. 364 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: Okay, And and I guess all pipes depending no situations 365 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: ever the same, right, I mean, it's always different. Can 366 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: you do trenchless on all all projects or is it 367 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: somewhat limited. 368 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: As far as what kind of pipe it is that 369 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: that really doesn't make a difference. We you know, we 370 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 4: can do residential and commercials just the only time it 371 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: would make a difference depending on what's being used in 372 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: the pipe. You know, if it's a factory or anything 373 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: like that, we have to you know, you got to 374 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: make sure you're using a special type of of resin 375 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: to to allow for for any types of chemicals or 376 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: extra heat. But as far as the piping, we can. 377 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: We can line pretty much any pipe. 378 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: So if a home owner right now is having trouble 379 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: and you know, they call their local plumber in and 380 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: he runs a camera and he's got you know, he's 381 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: telling you, you know, the woeful news of what the 382 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: problem is, and somebody wants a you know, second opinion 383 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: or talking about you know, maybe this particular person's going 384 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: to dig up the pipe and they want to check 385 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: with precision pipework see if there's an easier way to 386 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: do that. Is that a good part of your business. 387 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always encouraging people on a big repair 388 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: to get second opinions. 389 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll come in. We offer we offer a free 390 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: second opinion. So if you've had someone come out and 391 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: they've restored flow, will come out and we run the 392 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: camera at no charge. We take a look at it 393 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: and then you know, give you the best options for 394 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 4: for your pipe and the condition of it. And and 395 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: hopefully most of the times we can do do the 396 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: trench list, which is you know, it's typically you can 397 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: go in and do that and one day you don't 398 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 4: have you know, it doesn't take up a lot of time, 399 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: and it's and it's completed. 400 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: So Dave, I know there's a lot of people in 401 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: My background was in hardware store, so we sold all 402 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: kinds of drain cleaners all the time, and we sold 403 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: different things that were going to kill tree roots and 404 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: keep the pipe free flowing. But eventually it's got to 405 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: be replaced, right, Yeah. 406 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: Especially with the clay pipe, because when the roots come in, 407 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: they've already compromised the condition of the pipe. So typically 408 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: it's not if it's when it's it's going to happen, 409 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: and when when you look at the trenchless side of it. 410 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 4: It is about the conditions of the pipe, because sometimes 411 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 4: we still show up to a job and unfortunately the 412 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: pipe is too far gone because they've let it go, 413 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: and and you have to do it the ultraditional way. 414 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: Sure, all right, So Precision Pipe works and doing the 415 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: greater Cincinnati area in Dayton. And so here's the big question, 416 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: how do you do it? Walk us through what the 417 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: process is. You said it can be done in a day, 418 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: So I'm sure everybody listening right now says, how long 419 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: does it take? How do you do it? Is it 420 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: less expensive? But the big advantages you don't have to 421 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: dig up your whole front yard right right. 422 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And and sometimes it depends on what's inside the 423 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 4: house to have access to it, but typically we can 424 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 4: go in and locate the pipe at the front of 425 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 4: the house. We just have to create a small hole 426 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 4: in the in the concrete and dig down about a 427 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: foot and a half two foot and get to the pipe. 428 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: And then that allows us to install our tress trenchless technology, 429 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: which is it's a felt with a two mix epoxy 430 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: resin and we saturate the felt and then it's in 431 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 4: with air as if you were pulling a sock inside out. 432 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 4: It's just like you're inverting that from from the house 433 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 4: all the way out to the city main. And then 434 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 4: we use hot water and the hot water activates the 435 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: resin and we yep, and then we're able to cook 436 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: it and then cool it. And once we cool it, 437 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: the the actual fabric in the liner is is cured. 438 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 4: You can start using it immediately. 439 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: So do we lose any dim I mean we lose 440 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: some diameter. Do we lose a noticeable amount of diameter 441 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: inside that pipe? Or no, you don't. 442 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: It's uh, we still we still make sure that we 443 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: put in the right size liner because you know, you 444 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: still want it to be structural. But it actually will 445 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: increase the flow of the pipe just because there is 446 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: no joints. It's one continuous pipe from the house to 447 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: the street. 448 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: Gotcha, less friction? Huh? How long something like that lasts? 449 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: It's got a fifty year life expectancy. Really we give 450 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: we give it a ten year warranty, just as if 451 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: we were to you know, if someone comes in and 452 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: digs it, that PBC pipe also has a fifty year 453 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: life expectancy. 454 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: So how's it balance out in price? Is it about 455 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the same price, is a little more, is a little less. 456 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: It's typically a little less because if you do the 457 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: traditional way of digging everything, then you have to do 458 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 4: the restoration of the art or maybe a sidewalk or 459 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: patio or the driveway. 460 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: And so this technology, how new is it or has 461 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: it been around a while? 462 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: It's been around a while. It started in the early 463 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: seventies over in Europe, but as far as around here 464 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: they do it in the bigger city Mainz residential. It's 465 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: probably been probably the mid to late nineties when they 466 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 4: started doing a lot of it in residential. 467 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of pl don't do this work themselves, 468 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: do they. 469 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: No, typically they don't. It's I mean, because it's a 470 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 4: it's an investment, and you want to make sure you 471 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: have the right equipment and and you know, keep up 472 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: with the technology to do it. We we do work 473 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: in the area for a lot of a lot of 474 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: other plumbers as well. 475 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're the specialist, right, yes, all right, So 476 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: I gotta think this business is growing, isn't it. I mean, 477 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: those pipes keep getting older every year. 478 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, you know, and there there is there's 479 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 4: more more and more people getting into it, you know, 480 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: and in Cincinnati is you know, there's there's there's a 481 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: lot of old pipes in Cincinnati and there's a lot 482 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 4: of work, you know, and that's the that's the main 483 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: thing is is you know, trench list is is something 484 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: that that you know has been growing and you know 485 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing is just making sure that you know, 486 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: when everyone's coming in to do it, you know they're 487 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: doing it right, using the right material. That's what's most important. 488 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Sure, now you know anything and plumbing, it's all different 489 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: in size and type. I mentioned commercial buildings. Do you 490 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: do commercial work also, I'm sure those are bigger pipes. 491 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's sometimes they're bigger pipes. Sometimes they're the same. 492 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: But you know what, commercial you could go into a 493 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: factory that has a big piece of equipment on top 494 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 4: of it that can't be moved and can't be you know, 495 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: dug up and re routed and shut down for a 496 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 4: long period of time. So trenchless in commercial work is 497 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: is just as beneficial. 498 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: Sure, all right, So if somebody wants to get a 499 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: hold of you at Precision Pipe Works and get an estimate, 500 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: and I guess even a second opinion folks, have you 501 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: been messing around with roots in that waistline or you 502 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: know you've got a problem. How do they give you 503 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: a call? How do they get an estimate, and how 504 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: do we get this work started? 505 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: Well, they can reach out to us by phone at 506 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 4: nine three seven seven nine zero zero one, or they 507 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: can reach us on online at Precision pipeworks dot com. 508 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: Very good, Dave, thank you. We'll get the word out. Thanks. 509 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. 510 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: Thanks again, Gary, I appreciate it. 511 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: All right, you bet, all right? There you go. Precision Pipeworks. 512 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: They're locally owned, veter known and operated. They're located in Franklin, Ohio. 513 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: They service really a tri state area in Dayton, Cincinnati. 514 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: The whole works, and I'll tell you that is one 515 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: of the that's one of the coolest services that I'm 516 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: familiar with. If you've ever seen somebody have a mainline replaced, 517 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: the digging way, that's not something you want to do 518 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: if you can avoid it. First of all, you know, 519 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: he did talk about that. You know, sometimes you'd have 520 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: to cut through a driveway, cut through a sidewalk, and 521 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: for the cut down the bushes and then in the 522 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: yard you gotta dig the soil out, you got to 523 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: backo and there you're pouring the soil back on top 524 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: of it, and then you can't plant grass seed for 525 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: six months till the soil settles. So the trenchless sewer 526 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: repair and drain repair certainly the way to go. And 527 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: that's Precision Pipeworks against nine thirty seven seven nine zero 528 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: eleven zero one Precision Pipeworks dot com. Well, take a 529 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: little break, we'll wrap up today. If you'd like to 530 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: join us, do so. You're at home with Gary Sullivan 531 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: on fifty five care see right back in it. We 532 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: go twelve to fifty one on your Saturday. I hope 533 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: you're getting a few things done on the outside of 534 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: your home. And I know I always tell you about 535 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: taking a walk around the home. It's probably been about 536 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: four weeks since I've taken my walk around the home, 537 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: and probably due for it. Grass cutting is on my 538 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: list today. A little trimming and grass cutting lovely. At 539 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: least it's a good thing. Do it. Gotta get it 540 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: done before the rain comes, Danny, It makes sense, Yeah, 541 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: it needs it. It's like six days and it's going 542 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: to rain tomorrow, so better get it done late tonight 543 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: and tomorrow. There you go. Last thing I'll address. As 544 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: we were talking about, you know, fall projects, and fall 545 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: still one of the best times to get some things 546 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: done around the home. I'm sure once we get to 547 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: have a little rain for a couple of days, it'll 548 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: be coolish, but it'll be perfect working weather. It really will. 549 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: And my perfect working weather is mid sixties. Man, it 550 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that. And I'm always kind 551 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: of focused on the front door. You know, the holidays 552 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: coming up, a lot of people entering your house to 553 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: the front door. And if I was to name one 554 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: thing that is lousy looking at front doors, regardless of 555 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: where where you live or how big of a house 556 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: you live, it's usually the stoop or the landing on 557 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: the front porch. I don't know, maybe yours is just 558 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: perfect concrete. I don't see too many of those. But 559 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: we were talking about how to dress up a garage floor. 560 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: We can also talk about how to dress up the 561 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: front porch. A lot of times we have spawling, that's 562 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: the popping of concrete on the surface. We have cracks, 563 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: we have tilted porches, and we kind of dress a 564 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: lot of that ourselves. We can't do much about the 565 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: tilted porch, we ourselves can There are people that do 566 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: slabjacking and can lift that and might not be a 567 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: bad idea, especially if it's tilted towards the house. That's 568 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: a no no. But cosmetically, I guess is something we 569 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: want to take a look at. Especially got a house 570 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: back from the fifties and we got several cracks that 571 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: have been repaired through that porch. And so we see 572 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: this big white hawking line going this way and one 573 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: going that way, or we see a bunch of divots 574 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: that we patched in the concrete doesn't match. There are 575 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: recap products out on a market that are getting pretty 576 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: dog gone good, and there are some that are pre mixed. 577 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: I know Dish Coding's got one that's pre mixed. It's 578 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: very good. I would recommend that. It's called concrete patch 579 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: fix it patch. I have to look it up. Uh, 580 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: it's pre mixed, and it's a non cementatious material and 581 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: you actually trial it on. Now you've got to make 582 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: sure the slab is cleaning everything. But it's a complete 583 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: overlay and it looks like concrete and it's not concrete, 584 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: so it won't stain. Good stuff rock patch, Thanks Danny. Yes, 585 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: they sell it as patching con you know, divots and 586 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: stuff like cracks. But you can do it as you 587 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: can coat the whole surface with it. Don't put indoor 588 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: outdoor carpet on it and glue it. You're not gonna 589 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: get it up. Don't paint it. It's gonna be slippery 590 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: and paint's gonna appeal. Take a look at these recap 591 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: products quick Great's got once a powder, there's some little 592 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: more work involved. It is a cementatious product. You got 593 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: to get a commercial drill, stirred up in a five 594 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: gallon bucket, pour it on and distribute it brush or squeegee. 595 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: But again, you're resurfacing it. You're hiding seventy years of 596 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: history of cracks and patches. In other words, you can 597 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: really dress it up. If you want to use the 598 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: rock patch and just patch it and I'm not talking 599 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: about painting it, then that dice coating roller. Rock Day 600 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: also have one called Torazzo. It's a decorative recap. It's 601 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: very good. You'll probably get fifteen to twenty years out 602 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: of it. But that front porch area and you can 603 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: do that in a weekend. I mean, just a couple 604 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: of hours here, in a couple hours there, because you 605 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: gotta wait for things to dry and put a slippery, 606 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: slip resistant track safe sealer over it. If you were 607 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: going to use the dice on the concrete recap product, 608 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: you probably got to wait overnight and you want to 609 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: seal it also. But for the most part, it's a 610 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of hours here, a couple of 611 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: hours there, and you're completed. And what a great way 612 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: you got do it on it's above freezing, But what 613 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: a great way to dress up that stoop or dress 614 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: up the area right in front of your front door. 615 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: It gives you a whole new look. And I know 616 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: there's other things like, you know, I'm always talking about 617 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: replacing lighting because there's so much cool looking lighting out 618 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: on the market now, and it doesn't it have to 619 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: look like a standard fixture. I mean, you can get 620 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: some really good looking stuff. So there's other things like 621 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: replacing the lock and repainting the door, restaining the door. 622 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: But concentrate on that concrete slab and don't don't go 623 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: the carpet way. Not the way to go. Don't go 624 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: the carpetway. All right, music's playing, Danny boy, thank you 625 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: very very much. Thanks for all your efforts here today. 626 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: It was a busy day. We got a lot to 627 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: talk about, Good Lord Willing. We'll both be back tomorrow 628 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: morning at nine right here on fifty five krc DE 629 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: talk station.