1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Five, six, six nine zeros or kaway Commas spread alt 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: text line. I'm very excited to be here with you 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: along with Grant Smith, and we're gonna have Shelby Harris 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: joining us here at four point thirty. Get his thoughts 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: on the game against the Steelers. I can't wait to 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: ask him about the the block he had there at 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: the line, being hugged while the offensive len see if 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: his wife was maybe a little jealous of how how 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: much he was being hugged. And then Miles Garrett coming 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: up at this last game against the Cincinnati Bengalsay, not 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: getting it. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: Nope, sorry, I didn't know. If we're still I'm at 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's not getting Oh that's see, I'm listen. I'm 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: kind of here for that. I'm kinda here me. 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna wins if you Defensive Player of the Year anyways, 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: doesn't need the sack record. The Cincinnati Bengals are not 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna be bribed to give him the sack record. Nick Ferguson, 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Although theoretically I'm on the fence whether I'll ask Shelby about. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: It or not. 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Hey, if you guys thought about bribing the Bengals a 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: lot of mercy. 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: All their ridiculous things, and Nick says a lot like 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Bence says a lot of ridiculous things, but Nick always 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: takes it to another level. But him making a someone 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: coaching argument yesterday, I think that the Browns, more specifically 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett should bribe the Bengals offensive line to get 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: that sack. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: Oh boy, when I said that, more hair just popped 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: up on my chest. 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: All right, five six, six nine zero. You guys been 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: great this first hour flew by. We asked about expectations, 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: how much they've changed for the Broncos now that they 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: are in position to get the one seed on Sunday 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: with a win over the Chargers, who are sitting at 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: least their quarterback and more than likely a lot of 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: players will get more information as the week moves on. 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: I do want to talk about. 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Nicole Yoakush here for a moment, though, because we had 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a scare. I say bit that that 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: really doesn't describe what I think a lot of Nuggets 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: fans felt last night when you saw him go down 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: and then limp off. The court obviously ruled out relatively 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: quickly after that. In the loss of the Miami Heat, 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: the loss is completely his secondary doesn't even be described, 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: the chasm between the feelings of what Nuggets fans felt 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: about that game and more specifically what was going to 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: happen with Nikola Jokic. But we did get relatively good 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: news this morning, as is reported by the Nuggets, that 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with a hyper extension of his left knee. 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: We hat get douction eider On here at some points 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: talk to him about this, but he was diagnosed with 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: a hyper extension in his left knee, is gonna miss 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: at least four weeks. And I think the at least 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: isn't getting enough credit here because it is good news, 55 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: certainly good news, and he was an MVP front runner 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: from a betting standpoint going into that game last night. 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people are focusing in on the 58 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: sixty five game mark that he would have to clear 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: at this point if he comes back February first, it's 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: around sixty three sixty four, so it's going to be 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: really close. My wonder about this, not expectation, but my 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: wonder about this is if they'll just keep him out 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: through the All Star break, because there's only six more 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: games at the beginning of February before the All Star break, 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: So you got eighteen games in January, you got six more, 66 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: and then you can give him all of that time 67 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: off and then just make your run after that. Now 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't want that, I'm not hoping for that. It 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: just would logically track if it's close at all. And 70 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: that's why when the report came out from Shanshrania that 71 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: it was at least four weeks, people were like, oh, celebration, 72 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: we'll get him back at the beginning of February. 73 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, maybe you will. 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: That would be outstanding, but there is nothing that is 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: going to happen this year as far as belief that 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: you can win a championship without Nicola Jokich. 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: In fact, I'm I'm gonna be. 78 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Wildly interested to see what David Adaman is going to 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 1: do over this next month without him. Everything about this team, 80 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: and you guys know this, I don't have to tell 81 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: you it's designed about Nicola Jokic, and as it should be, 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: everything the ball, everything it goes through Nicola Jokic. 83 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: So now do you redesign on the fly your entire office. 84 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: Right and right now you have only one starter, like 85 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: one week one starter in Jamal Murray. That's the only 86 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: guy that's healthy, and even he was kind of hobbling 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: around last night. So Jamal Murray is the last man 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: standing here, and you're eventually gonna get back Aaron Gordon 89 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: here relatively soon. You're gonna get back Christian Brown here, 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: relatively soon. I did see on a podcast that Cam 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: Johnson said that he's doing better, so maybe that is 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: going to happen a little sooner. Sing to get back 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: a few bodies here soon, but none of them are 94 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: in Nakoliokic. 95 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: So now it's about Treddy Water. 96 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: It's trying to find wins where you can get them, 97 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: keep yourself in the playoff mix. It's like triage, but 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of like that where you just say this 99 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: is what we're this is what we're about. We're gonna 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: try to test our skill. I hope they don't go 101 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: into Jamal Murray needs to play forty five minutes a night, 102 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: because that's not a bad that's not a good idea either. 103 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to carry the load from a leadership 104 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: standpoint and from a scoring standpoint, certainly, but you're gonna 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: have to keep as minutes as close to normal as 106 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: you can get. 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: Out to marsnellows he's on fire. 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: I love Chris Marlow. Are we gonna see more Holmes? 109 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: I would hope, So I hope you would get the 110 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: call up. There's there's a few things. I mean, there's 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: a few things you can do, but nothing compared to 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: nakoli Okic and what he does as far as the 113 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: challenges he presents for opponents on a night in, night 114 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: out basis. 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: And it's all facets. So I don't have to tell 116 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: you guys that it's all facets. 117 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: So that's where David Adelman in his first full year 118 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: here now coaching the Nuggets, this is a different kind 119 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: of test. And I don't think I'm saying in a 120 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: test like if he doesn't pass, as in they don't 121 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: have more wins than losses in January, I'm suddenly gonna 122 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: think different with him. No, it's just an understanding that 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: you are viewed as one of the best teams in 124 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: the NBA with the Kohli Jokic, but without him, what 125 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: are you and how creative can you be from a 126 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: coaching standpoint to keep yourself tethered to the playoffs in 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: this very difficult West that we've talked about a lot. 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: That's gonna be fascinating to watch. But again, you can 129 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: get some guys back hopefully that's gonna help a little bit. 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: But overall good news from the Kohli Jokic. I think 131 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: you put the whole MVP conversation on the back burner. 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: I think we're beyond that now. 133 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Like I said, from a triage standpoint, Now it's just 134 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: about when do you get him back. If you can 135 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: get him back before the All Star break, gravy, if not, 136 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: give him through the All Star break, which is just 137 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: six more games, it's twenty four total. 138 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot. 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: But then you just gear up to make a real 140 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: run here of the postseason after the All Star break. 141 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: But from now, like the next couple of days, there's 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of competer probably. 143 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean, what else are you supposed to do? Right, 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: that's a great drop grant. What else are you supposed 145 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: to do? 146 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: And you can't. 147 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: You're not gonna run around out there, you get hyper 148 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: extended knee, just you know, a few curls, that's what 149 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: they want to drinking the beer? 150 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys get it. 151 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: I think that it ultimately benefited this team to have 152 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: that belief pumped into the building. But again, you know, 153 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: we after the two losses, Remember a lot of the 154 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: discussion around town was, oh, boy, Sean set this team 155 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: up for failure. He got these guys all fired up 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: thinking they're a super Bowl team, and now they're one two. Hey, 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: fast forward to now when you're like, wow, you're thirteen 158 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: and three with an opportunity to win the first seat 159 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: here in the AFC. A couple of texts here, this 160 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: one you're responding to the Nicole Yoakis conversation we just had. 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: It's like having sixteen starters out and one of them 162 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: is your star quarterback. Gonna be tough to stay afloat, 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: but we were gonna have to find a way. I 164 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: mean that's exactly I mean, as comparable, I don't almost 165 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: sixteen starters, but I think it's a lot, right, certainly 166 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: star quarterback. If you would make a comp to what 167 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: Nicole Yokich means for the Nuggets on top of all 168 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the other injuries they're dealing with, Yeah, it does feel 169 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: like you're, well, you're behind the eight ball, if you will, right, 170 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: And so again, I don't know, I don't want to 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: put two lofty of expectations here on David Adaman in 172 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: his first year. But at the same time, this is 173 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: why we say coaching matters. It's a little different in 174 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: the NBA than the NFL. But if this is what 175 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do, you're gonna to find a 176 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: way to get creative and see what that See what 177 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: that looks like over the core of month, maybe month 178 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and a half. Text fine for the expectations of the Broncos. 179 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Expectations are still mild. It's funny because most of the 180 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: texts we got in the last hour or so were 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: super Bowl bound, but this one, expectations are still mild. 182 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are ahead of schedule, but tough 183 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: to get to thirteen wins with a chance to run 184 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: the table in your backyard. Need to take advantage of it. 185 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Oh okay, I should have gotten to the end 186 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: of it. So expectations are mild, but acknowledging. Hey, we 187 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: have an opportunity here. No clue what your last show 188 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: well of the year will be, but think you grant 189 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Rick Susie would be a great ending perfect chemistry. 190 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: Well that's very kind. It'll be me and been all 191 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: Bright tomorrow for the last show of the. 192 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: Year, Wet Blanket all Bright. 193 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Yep, so we'll see. 194 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't see where the Wet Blanket is heading into 195 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Maybe he is in a remarkably good boot. 196 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: I saw him yesterday when he was filled for Andy. 197 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: He's in a pretty good mood. 198 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: Of course. 199 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I think when he gets a chance to talk politics 200 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: and challenge people, this is kind of a bit thing, 201 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: then he's always in a good mood. Take that for 202 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: whatever you want it to be. But yeah, he'll be 203 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: with you tomorrow for three hours. Sax Siegers will be 204 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: hanging out with us for a little bit as well, 205 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: and we'll try to bring in the new year with you, 206 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: and then we have a Broncos country tonight tomorrow night 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: as well. A couple more texts here. I would love 208 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: to see Max Crosby in the Orange of Blue. Prayers 209 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: for Joker. We're gonna miss him. Broncos have to play 210 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: heads up football. Max Crosby would be interesting. But for 211 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: whatever reason, the Raiders are hanging on to him. And 212 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: it's not to say I don't understand he's a great player, 213 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: it's just knowing that you're not a player or two away, 214 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: but teams will convince themselves sometimes we get the right coach, 215 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: we get the right quarterback, and you see every single 216 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: year the right combination can make the difference. 217 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: So one of the beauties of the NFL. 218 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: But there's also a bit of an illusion there for 219 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: teams that are more than that away. I think it's remarkable, 220 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, watching the Falcons last night and how much 221 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: talent they have. They've had their share of injuries. Certainly 222 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback right Michael Pennocks wasn't consistent. We talked about 223 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: inconsistency with bout Nicks. It's another level with Michael Pennox. 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: But you had injury. Their quarterback Drake London missed some time. 225 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: But between b Jeon Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts, Darnell Mooney, 226 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: that is a and they have a good offensive line too. 227 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: That's a very good team. I don't know what they're 228 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: gonna do with head coach. I don't know if they're 229 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: going to clean house with the coach. 230 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,119 Speaker 2: And the GM. 231 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: They don't have a first round pick this year, but 232 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: they look like a team that could go to total 233 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: with anybody last night. Now it helps when Matt Stafford 234 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: is having one of those games where he's just giving 235 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: the ball away and he was. They still had a chance, obviously, 236 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: if Huka Nakua can make that unbelievable catch on the sideline. 237 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: There's still people today, by the way, arguing on Twitter 238 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: that he did make the catch, as if the optical 239 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: illusion of the ball coming out of his hand didn't happen. 240 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, how are you still making that argument? 241 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: But really interesting game. Quickly before we get to Shelby Harris. 242 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: I'd asked Nick last night if Matt Stafford has a 243 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: big game or what would a big game for Matt 244 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Stafford do for the MVP conversation. Nick said, it's already done. 245 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is your MVP. I said, Drake May. Drake 246 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: May is still in this thing. Not that I have 247 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: a rooting interest. I'm just I think we talked about 248 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: the MVP s low and behold. After Matt Stafford threw 249 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: three interceptions last night, Drake May is now the betting 250 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: favorite to be MVP. I'm not surprised by it at all, 251 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: and I imagine that'll probably stay status quo in this 252 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: final week of the regular season. 253 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: And Drake May is gonna win it. That's my expectation. 254 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Now we'll see what Shelby Harris thinks when we come 255 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: back right here on ka WA. Shelby Hair is joining 256 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: us now on the ka Commasparit Health hotline. Shelby, my friend, 257 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: good to chat with you. What a wed of the Steelers? 258 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: Man? 259 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: How are you? 260 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: I'm doing great? Always way better utter a w How 261 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: are you doing? 262 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing great? 263 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: Man. 264 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Although it's funny because we were having fun talking yesterday 265 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: about how you were being accosted, you were being hugged, 266 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: you were being mugged out there when you got that 267 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: batted pass of the the line on a key moment 268 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter. Your wife after the fact say, 269 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, hey, listen, tell that guy that that he's 270 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: a taken man. 271 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: He's like, that's my man. 272 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: Like that no, like nobody gets nobody gets to hold 273 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: mind man, but me, baby, I got you. That was 274 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: that was not there's no consent on that hug. 275 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: There's no consent on that hug. Yeah, I don't know. 276 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: You know we sometimes get into the whole well, there's 277 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: holding on every play and it can happen all the time. 278 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: What what are you missing? When you missed that hole, 279 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: and the fact that you were able to steal back 280 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: that pass was tremendous. 281 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: You know, I think I'm just going to think that 282 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: there they were watching Miles hoping he got the record 283 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: that place, and that where their eyes were. 284 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: It's got to be that. There is no other explanation. 285 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you can see both arms around on your back, 286 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: like what else, what else do you gotta do? 287 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: A full bear hug, full bear hug? 288 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: You know, all the cool. We got to win, and 289 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: that's all that matters. 290 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: That's all that matters. That's right, scoreboard and then listen, man, 291 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: it's a big win. Steelers needed that game. Now, they 292 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: put themselves at risk playing the Baltimore Ravens this week 293 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: for a win and get in. But I wanted to 294 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: say with the Browns for a second here, because it 295 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: did seem man, it did seem like and Miles said 296 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: it too, that a lot of the Steelers game plan 297 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: was let's just not let Miles get the record. Did 298 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: you guys really feel that way? 299 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: They were on the steel talking about like you're not 300 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: going to get the record on me. You're worried about that, 301 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: and you need this win to clinch the AFC North 302 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: and now you will only focus. 303 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: On Miles not getting the record, and I don't know 304 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 5: if it has anything And I don't know this has 305 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 5: anything to do with because they're TJ Watt a feeler 306 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: as that record. 307 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: Also, you know you're trying to make it out. 308 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: On them, but now you've risk not even making. 309 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: The playoffs if you end up playing a Lamar Jackson. 310 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: Raisins team that it seems to be ascending. 311 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: So you will so focus on Miles not getting this record, 312 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: but in reality, like and we just the proof is 313 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: in the put in. There was no type of downfield 314 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: passing game that they even attempted. They even tried to 315 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: develop that downfield passing game. So it was just it 316 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: was idea is that they were more focused with Miles 317 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: not getting the records instead of trying to really just 318 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: get that win. 319 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: That's what it felt like to me too. 320 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: So I wonder because I heard Miles after the game 321 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: say that, and I said that on Monday yesterday to 322 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Nick and He's like, oh, no way, no, no way, 323 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers would focus that much attention on it. 324 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, man, you watch that game 325 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: to me, just watching from the TV copy, it certainly 326 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: felt like everything they were doing was trying to keep 327 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: him away from Aaron Rodgers, and to their detriment, they 328 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: scored six points in the game. 329 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess the biggest thing I noticed was, 330 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: you know, Aaron Rodgers already throws the ball really quick. Yep, 331 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: Well we all know that he already he already. 332 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: Knows what defense, what you're in, and he. 333 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: Knows where he wants to go with the ball and 334 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: when he wants to take shots. It is felt like 335 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: this was even faster and it didn't just feel like that. 336 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: The stats kind of provement that the time to throw 337 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: was the pot I think the passes of the season 338 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: by far, and it just it just really didn't help 339 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: their offense that much, especially when they were already injured 340 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: at receiver. So it's not like they had their guys 341 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: that could break tackles in go for eighty. You know, 342 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: they didn't have a DK. Yes, they didn't have a 343 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: Calvinos that game. And so already you're you're already behind 344 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: the eight ball, and you really didn't, like, you know, 345 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 3: you didn't do your stuff. 346 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Any favors, No doubt about it Shelby Harris joining us. 347 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: So we're debating something yesterday when it comes to Miles 348 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: Garrett trying to get the sack record coming up against 349 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals. 350 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if these are split. 351 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: Second decisions you guys can make, because a half sack 352 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: will get him tied for the record, but obviously a 353 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: full sack gets in the record. Do you guys on 354 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the defensive line and pass rush is there just like, hey, 355 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: if it's close, you gotta like keep your hands like 356 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: away from the quarterback because because maybe he's swinging around 357 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: on the other side. 358 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: Like I mean, it's it's all split second. 359 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: It's not like you're intending to share the sack with 360 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. 361 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: But you guys think about that at all. 362 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: Well, you know how hard it is to get sacked, right, 363 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: and how hard it is to get sacked with Miles 364 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: Garrett next to him, Like we don't have the privilege 365 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: to be like, you know, Miles is gonna that because 366 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: he takes all of them already in the first place. 367 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: We gotta go get ours while we can, and it's 368 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: just splitting them with Miles. It's splitting them with Miles. 369 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: I know he understands too. It's it's it's the way 370 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: we always look at it, and you're asking me any 371 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: team it's a racist quarterback. Sometimes it's a path. But 372 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: we obviously want Miles to break that record, but also 373 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: we're all competitors at the same time. We want to 374 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: get there too. We're trying to get there every place. 375 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: It's just that he's a freak and he gets sevent 376 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: for us over twenty fives a year, so it's just 377 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: that's just a natural part of our mouths. But everybody's 378 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: still trying to go out there, rest to passes. All 379 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: these stats matter. We're all trying to make this season, 380 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: SAT wise, look as good as possible. But obviously Miles 381 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: is fighting for history and we want them to get it. 382 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and I know that, and we talked quite 383 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: a few times and it Listen, it's not the season 384 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: you guys hoped for, but that would be a little 385 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: bit of a feather in the cap. He's gonna win 386 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year at this point. I mean, 387 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: I can't imagine anybody else even in the conversation. But 388 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: still but still for you guys, I know, on the 389 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: defensive line, for the defense, what he means to you, 390 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: I know it means a lot. And you got this 391 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: Bengals game coming up now, Nick Ferguson, and you won't 392 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: be surprised to hear this. Nick Ferguson tried to make 393 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: the argument that Miles should bribe the Bengals offensive line. 394 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, he can get there on his own. He 395 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: doesn't need to bribe anybody. I couldn't believe a player 396 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: would stoop to that level and try to talk about 397 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: integrity and then say, well, but you know, fifty thousand dollars, 398 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: maybe that'll get it done. 399 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: I think that is just absolute insanity. Do you agree, Well, try. 400 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: To see that Michael straight hand route. 401 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it, I get it. 402 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: But I would say you that Miles would never go 403 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: for that. You know, I think all twenty plus of 404 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: his ads this year have been hard earned, and I 405 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: really can say I have not seen teams change their 406 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: game plan up every week like they have the last 407 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: couple of weeks to try to top Miles. I'm like, 408 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: even against the Bears, against you know, against the Bills, 409 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: like you know, Josh Allen had his lowest passing total 410 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: for the season against US, Because no one's trying to 411 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: drop back and throw the ball. And so no matter 412 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: what happens like this next game, this is still by 413 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: far the most impressive season I've ever seen in the NFL. 414 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 3: I just really want people to understand like that, like 415 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: teams are really not running their plays because of this man. 416 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: They're not even going into their playbook because of this 417 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: man in the way he's rushing. And I don't think 418 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: anybody's ever had that type of impact on a game 419 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: before as a defensive end. 420 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right, Shelby Harris joining us here. 421 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: So I don't even know how to ask you this question, 422 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna kind of ask it. You've played 423 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: against the Ravens and the Steelers now twice. I don't 424 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: know who you think wins this weekend. I mean not 425 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: rooting interest, I don't You're never going to root for 426 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: a team in your division, But who do you who 427 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: do you think is going to have the upper hand 428 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: in that game? 429 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Who would win if it is a time? Really know 430 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: who would have the tie breaks? 431 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a great question. I would I think 432 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: the Steelers. The Steelers right now are in that spot. 433 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: Right So, like as we sit here in this moment, 434 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers are the four seeds, so my guess would 435 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: be they would win. 436 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Steelers would The Steelers would have the 437 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: upbrands at the time. 438 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're nine, Yeah, they're nine and seven, of 439 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: course they would. Yeah, so they'd be nine seven and 440 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: one and the Ravens would be eight eight and one. 441 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, it doesn't there's not even a tiebreaker there. 442 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: This is a yeah, so Steelers. 443 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: In that case. In that case, only because they're making 444 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: me choose, and because Denver's former d lion and Draymond 445 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: Jones is on the Ravens, I have would I would say, 446 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: I want to see Draymond in the playoffs. Yeah, that's 447 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: my dogs having a great year after the trades and 448 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: Tennessee really has been a game changer for the Ravens 449 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: on the edge and which. 450 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: Is a different look than but we saw him in Denver. 451 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: It was an inside player in Denver. It's very rare 452 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 3: we see a guy go from inside to outside and 453 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: be a But I would love to see Draymond have 454 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: a productive postseason run, go out there and get a 455 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: whole nother bag again. 456 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: You know I could get behind that. 457 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have necessarily a rooting interest out here, 458 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: although I will say conceptually easier path might be playing 459 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the postseason and the Ravens. The Ravens 460 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: are kind of coming on defensively and with their run games, 461 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: so they could be a little more dangerous in the postseason. 462 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: So I guess for Broncos fans, if there is a 463 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: rooting interest, it probably be the Steelers. But I like, 464 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: I like that argument, and I would say, I mean, 465 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: there's a reason the Ravens are favored, honestly in this one. 466 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's Ravens team. They're really starting 467 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: to hit their stride, and if they win this one, 468 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 3: I'd be worried for anyone that has to play them 469 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. They're getting they're starting to hit their 470 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: stride a little bit. They're starting to kind of you do, 471 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: and in this without Lamar Jackson, you know what I mean, 472 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: Like the Snoop's going out there and really done a 473 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: great job of getting the offense around, like really just 474 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: being the game manager. And then there Cannon is really 475 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: come on strong. So I don't think, you know, you 476 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: substitute Tyler Huntley for Lamar Jackson. You're terrified right now. 477 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, if all the Broncos up the jet, Like, 478 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: if I had to play anyone, I'm definitely choosing the 479 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: Steelers over the Ravens. Is because any time you play 480 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, he can go all the way. He gon 481 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: fix any time he touches the ball, and that's a 482 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: trait that not many players have. So it's just the 483 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: dangerous the ability that he brings, especially in like a 484 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: playoff game, that's not something you want to have to 485 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: deal with. And it stifles the pass rush. So that's 486 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: not the team you If anyone else they want to 487 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: see it as a win. But the Ravens, I feel like, 488 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: are going to be that team one hundred percent. 489 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 2: Shelby Harris joining us. 490 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a chance to watch 491 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: the Broncos Chiefs game on Christmas night, but in that game, 492 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos had four drives of fourteen plays or more. 493 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: What does that do for a defensive line? What a 494 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: team is just moving the ball like that? 495 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: You know how exhausting it is as a d lineman 496 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 3: the seven about and then have to sub back in 497 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: in the same drive. It's mentally it's mentally mentally defeating. 498 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: That means usually, like you know, you go four five 499 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 3: six plays, you come out four play like three plays, 500 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: and you still go in for another four five six. 501 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: That's that's mentally defeating. It's exhausting. We only get you know, 502 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: you only get so many players available on game day 503 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: that you run through your whole D line in that 504 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: drive and it's so hard to gain your stamina back, 505 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: so hard to catch your breath, and all it does 506 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: is just wear down on you. But I tell you this, 507 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: if I'm a fan, that's playoff football right there. That's 508 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: the epitome of playoff football. Is winding the team down 509 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 3: and and and really just trying to. 510 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: Make them quit. 511 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: And that's what those long drives do to defenses. 512 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, like what you've seen in the Broncos, 513 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean over the course of the season. Again, you're 514 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: playing in your own season, so I'm not expecting you 515 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: to know the ins and outs of every single game, 516 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: But what you've seen from the Broncos, are there things 517 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: that you still would want to know about them heading 518 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: into the postseason, Like things that maybe would would hold 519 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: you back from believing that they could be a contender. 520 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hounting how much are they going to 521 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: be committed to the run games? And I think I 522 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 3: think that's everyone's question because ever since JK. Dobbins has 523 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: been out, RG Hollvey R. J. Harvey stepped up tremendously, 524 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but it's inconsistent at times that 525 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: the inconsistent if they call it. So I think the 526 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: biggest thing is are they going to be consistent run team? 527 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: What type of runs do you want to get? Because 528 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: RG Harvey and JK. Dobbins are two completely different backs. 529 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: RGIE Harvey is more outside speeding cut. 530 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: So my idea behind it is what is what is there. 531 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: Going to be their identity with the run game during 532 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: the playoffs. And I think that's the one thing that 533 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: Bracos kind of have to figure out for themselves because 534 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: that's what's going to win them games when it's the 535 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: four minute drill in the quarter trying to waist the clock. 536 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: You've got to be able to know to rely on 537 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: your bread and butter and what you do and what 538 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 3: your identity is. And so that's really going to be 539 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: the biggest thing for the Broncos figuring out at offensive 540 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: game identities. 541 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: I think that's exactly right. 542 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of Broncos fans that's where 543 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: they're coming down on this thing. I mean, we're wondering 544 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: what kind of performance we'll get out of bon Nicks, 545 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: but he'd been playing overall better football over the last 546 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: month or so. I didn't want to ask you a 547 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: defensive question, though, because there's a couple of sites that 548 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: track these kinds of things, like types of team coverages. 549 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: And again, don't laugh at me, I'm just going to 550 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: ask you the question here. The Broncos have been playing 551 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: more zone over the last month and a half than 552 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: they have over the course of the season. Is there 553 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: a reason why a team? Is it matchup based? Is 554 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: it performing? What would tenden to go into a team 555 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: without knowing inside what's going outside the building? What would 556 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: go into a team deciding to play more zone than 557 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: man as they typically. 558 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: Do of the defense? You know what I me because 559 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: obviously run man, you gotta. 560 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: Have all your all, your corner, all your corners. 561 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: All this if he's available, I'll say with zone, though 562 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 3: I did behind man. I guess also to us, who 563 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: are you playing at receiver? Do you do you feel 564 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: like there's some mispatches where your corners or safeties might 565 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 3: get exposed. Is there is there a speed heading that 566 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: you don't want on a or on a linebacker, And 567 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: so that's really the difference if you're trying to figure 568 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: out if you want to run man in zone. Now 569 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: the Broncos zone, they switch it up because they do 570 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of zone blitzes and they do random man 571 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: blitten too, and they probably make a lot of stuff 572 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: look the same. And I do think with the Broncos 573 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: they have shown I actually think they're better man coverage 574 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 3: and they get credit for they have some like obously 575 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: we know about past detember Riley Mouskts tried all the 576 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: time and even though he does get a couple of penalties, 577 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: he makes plays makes up player is non pip. So 578 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: you have to desk that corner to play man. But 579 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: I think a lot of the thing that makes the 580 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: Broncos defense so unpredictable is they have a lot of 581 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: exact lists out of their zone, and I think so 582 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: in order for them to hit, they have to be 583 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: able to play zone behind themselves. And that's really I 584 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: feel like a big way of how you have these 585 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: free runners and these free runners come around. You have 586 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: in your sack record for the Broncos right now is 587 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: because you don't really know what you're going to get. 588 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: They show so many different looks and a lot of 589 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: stuff looks the same and they come from different places. 590 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: And that's why I think the benefits of zone are 591 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: and I definitely believe that the Broncos have the players 592 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: to run both and that's actually their best strengths, right 593 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: And I'm. 594 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: One hundred percent with you. 595 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: It's just you know, you watch these trends, and I 596 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: think some Broncos fans right now because teams are kind 597 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: of moving the ball against this defense a little bit 598 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: more in the last several weeks than we've you used 599 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: to see earlier in the season. So people are kind 600 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: of looking into why. 601 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: No, why this is every defense you get figured out 602 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, Like everybody kind of 603 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: figures out what you struggled with by the end of 604 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: the year, and so then right for the playoffs, you 605 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: have to do a whole nother like recheck of your defense. 606 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: There's like our defense, we've been giving up bush yards 607 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: because teams have figured out how like how they hit 608 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: us this year and we had to go and try 609 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: to adjust that. And so the more film that's out 610 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: on your defense, teams will find more creative ways to 611 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: hit youes. 612 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter like you can. 613 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: Be the best zone team man teams the first fifteen weeks. 614 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: These offensive minds, these people that are in the building, 615 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: they're going to find, you know, ways to figure you out. 616 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: And that just happened later. The longer you're in the season, 617 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: the more film that's up, the better, the more chance 618 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: that you're gonna get explosed. 619 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: Fascinating, fascinating. 620 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So then my last question on that is what 621 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: goes into maybe you and take us behind the curtain 622 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: a little bit until late season adjustments from a defensive 623 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: coordinator and a defensive staff. What goes into some of 624 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: those conversations on swing some of that up. 625 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: So you's it's a cat and mouse game, is the 626 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: best way I can explain it. So without going into 627 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: two specific of terms. You know, let's say every time 628 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: the linebacker's head up on the center, he blitzes right, 629 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: and that's something that kind of got figured out towards 630 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: the end of the year. Well, then you would line 631 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: them up there they can blitz and drop them out. 632 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: Then that's how you end up getting the pickers or 633 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: making a big play. It's just going against something that 634 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: you've shown all year, and defensive coaching and offensive coaches 635 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: do this on purpose. They show you something all year 636 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: so that in cunchtime when they need to, they're gonna 637 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: show it to you. You're gonna think you know what's 638 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: gonna happen. Then exact oppos is gonna happen, and it's 639 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: gonna be a big play. And I think that's really 640 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: what a lot of these offens do. It's all based 641 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: on setting stuff up for later. So yes, we allow 642 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: you to see you know, these formations over the again, 643 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: we'll allow you the things that we're going to run 644 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: these same plays. The same with defens. We're gonna line 645 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: up one way, I'm. 646 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: Gonna show you on to it this one way, and 647 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 4: then week. 648 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: Seventeen in the in a wild part of the playoffs, 649 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: we're gonna show this to you and then we're gonna 650 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: drop it in a completely different way and it's. 651 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: Going to confuse you, and it's going to. 652 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: Be at one of the most important times of the game, 653 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: and it's gonna be a big play. 654 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: Very cool Shelby. This has been a blast all season long. 655 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I having a chance to chat with you about not 656 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: only what you're doing with the Browns, but also about 657 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL. Happy New Year to you, 658 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: my friend. All the best to you and your family, 659 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: and I hope you hope we get to see it 660 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: here in studio here pretty soon. 661 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: I'll be back soon, but I can't wait to see you, guys. 662 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate you man, good stuff all right, the best 663 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: Shelby hers love chatting with that guy. 664 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: Best of luck, of course to Shelby and his Browns. 665 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: I know thats a it's the Bigels. 666 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: It's uh not the season for either of those teams. 667 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: Grant says that Miles Garrett will not get the sack record. 668 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm inclined to think that they're gonna find a way. 669 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna happen. It will be 670 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: remarkable though, if he gets a half sack and then 671 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: he ties the record, that will be kind of an 672 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: interesting deal. But always great stuff with Shelby Harris over 673 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: the course of the year, and again hoping we get 674 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: to have him in studio here for some playoffs for 675 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Playoffs coming up here in just a little bit. 676 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: Five six, six, nine zero has some great stuff there 677 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: on the defense and the cat and mouse game. I 678 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: thought that last section there, we're talking about the Broncos 679 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: defense and why teams are suddenly able to move the 680 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: ball again. I mean, you even saw it last week 681 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: with the Texans. You see Ashton Jenny and the Raiders 682 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: move up and down the field and run the ball 683 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: against the Texans. 684 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: That's expected to be the best defense. 685 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: In the league right now, and even they had some 686 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: leaky yardage moments. 687 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: Same thing against the Chargers. 688 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: So to his point, you have these brilliant offensive minds 689 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: that watch the entire season of a defense and they 690 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: go over every possible advantage, and so when they get 691 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: to these matchups, they've got a plan against you. And 692 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: I guess the good news is, especially if you're a 693 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: playoff team, you get a chance to learn before the 694 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: playoffs starts where maybe some advantages. 695 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Can be had against you. 696 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Right, So for the Broncos defense getting a chance to 697 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: have Jacksonville and Green Bay move the ball against you 698 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: as well as they did, you say, aha, well there 699 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: you go. So we have this is a little bit 700 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: of an issue that we need to sew up. And 701 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: then he said, on the other side of that is okay, Well, 702 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: now that you're aware of those things, what are you 703 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: going to do to counteract it, or at least to 704 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: play the cat and mouse game with an opponent's opposing 705 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: offense and show them one thing and to do another. 706 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a very fascinating back and forth. Now 707 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: this week against the Chargers, I don't know how much 708 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: you're going to see. In fact, if your vans, Joseph, 709 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if the mindset is let's keep 710 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: everything contained, keep it in front of us. That probably 711 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: get a few sacks because this is an offensive line 712 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: that is giving up a lot of sacks. 713 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: But in the end, you're just not going to give 714 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: up explosive plays. 715 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna play this thing pretty close and that 716 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: that may not be great for Broncos fans, but you're 717 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: also not showing anything as you head into the postseason, 718 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: and there might be a little bit of a conscious 719 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: effort on both the offense and defensive side of the 720 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: ball to not show a lot in this game. Do 721 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: what you have to do to get the win. They 722 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: did that against the Chiefs. They obviously did that against 723 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, so here against the Chargers. Now you've had 724 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: a week and a half to prepare for him. But 725 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: what's the mindset? Is the mindset just get out of 726 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: here with a win, get the one seed, be done 727 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: with it, or do you try to make statement. 728 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: My guess would be the firmer. 729 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: My guess would be the try to just get the win, 730 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: get out of there as healthy as possible, and head 731 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: into their bye week. We'll talk with Rod Smith about 732 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: that and more coming up next.