1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Tonight, why the markets could get a little noisy this week, 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: plus some opportunities you definitely want to think about taking 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: advantage of in twenty twenty six. And as always we 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: answer your money questions. You're listening to Simply Money presented 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: by all Worth Financial. I'm Bob Sponseller along with Brian James. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get to tonight and we 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: want to start by bringing in all Worth Chief Investment 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Officer Andy Stout. Just as a reminder, Andy manages I 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: don't know over thirty five billion dollars worth of our 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: client's money for all Worth clients from right here in Cincinnati. Andy, 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: thank you for making time for us tonight. We were 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: ready to talk to you about the inflation report coming 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: up tomorrow, but we've got a few extra tidbits that 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about tonight, because, as 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: we know, the news is always moving, especially with our 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: current presidential administration hit it Andy, Yeah, I. 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: Mean you could definitely say that it's a fluid news environment. 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: There's no question about that. There were certainly some developments 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: late on Sunday. We had Chair Pow in a relatively 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: unusual approach, he released a video on the fed's website, 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: which is not the norm at all, But what he 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: was doing, he was addressing that the FED was served 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 2: some grand jury subpoenas tied to his testimony of June 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: of last year. The testimony was before the Senate Banking 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: Committee and it was related to the two and a 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: half billion headquarter renovation, So there is the potential for 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: criminal charges there. However, what chair Pal posted in his 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: video and what most people believe, is that this is 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: really an investigation. This investigation is really related to the 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: FED not bowing to what President Trump wants in terms 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: of lower interest rates. So the chair Pal talked about it, 32 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: you know, the political pressure being tied to monetary policy, 33 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: and that's kind of how he reframed it. So when 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: you look at that from that perspective, it certainly calls 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: into question the fed's independence. I mean, that's been one 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: of the main stays of our economy and it's really 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: critical that we do have a central bank that is 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 2: independent and can make interest rate decisions without being pressured, 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: because otherwise you end up making decisions that may or 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: may not be in the best interest of the public, 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: and even if they do end up being in the 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: best interest of the public. The lack of independence from 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: the markets perspective definitely increases the likelihood that you see 44 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: a about of market volatility. There's no question about that. 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: You know. 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: So far though, this is what's interesting. There really hasn't. 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: I mean, there's been some fallout, but it's not been 48 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 2: to two material obviously, it's early stages. And I say, 49 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: there's really two reasons for this, Okay. The first reason 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: is that this doesn't really change anything regarding what the 51 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: FED actually does. It's what we call their reaction function. 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: So policy it's still driven currently by inflation and the 53 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: labor data. And I know, we got some data last 54 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: week and that doesn't really go that's not really going 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: to force a head hand. And we have some important 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: data coming up this week and we'll talk about that 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: in the met But right now, the Fed's reaction function 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: remains intact. It's currently still based on monetary policy. Look 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: where markets pricing in the terms of any sort of 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: FED fund rate cuts coming up, and it's pretty much 61 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: negligible here in the near term. 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: Now. 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: The second, and really i'll call this the more important 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: one is the Senate Banking Committee politics. They support the 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: FED Republican. Republican Senator Tom Tillis publicly said he would 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: oppose confirming any Federal Reserve nominees while this investigation is ongoing. 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: And he also pretty much said that this investigation is 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: very political in nature and not really related to anything 69 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: of materiality. So when you look at the Senate Banking Committee, 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: it's a relatively narrow margin, and what his statement does 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: and what he plans to do, it creates a procedural roadblock. 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: So without getting into the week too much, it really 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: just creates that roadblock in going to essentially kind of 74 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: stop any sort of near term leadership changes. Now when 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: we look a little bit longer term out, it's important 76 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: to note that Chair Pal's term ends on May fifteenth 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: this year. That's his term as the FED chair. He 78 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: can't remain as a governor until twenty twenty eight, So 79 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: it's possible he might decide to resist political pressure to 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 2: or excuse me, to help the Fed resist political pressure. 81 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: He could stay on until twenty twenty eight if he 82 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: thinks that's the right thing to do. So there's a 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: lot of moving pieces there. There's no question about now. 84 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: I would say it's not any sort of like immediate catalyst, 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: but it's a longer term institutional risk that you have 86 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: to monitor. But what's more important than the near term, 87 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: I guess from an economic standpoint, is what the FED 88 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: is going to look at at regarding the jobs market 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: and the inflation data, because that's their duel. 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: Land Andy, how much more crazy can the world take 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: of the United States behaving the way that we currently are. 92 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: Is there a point in the future where you feel like, 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: at some point investors are going to start thinking very 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: very differently about whether they're willing to continue with the 95 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: level of debt that that they own. You know, other countries, 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: Japan owns a lot of our debt, so this is China. 97 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: Is there some point where they're going to say, we 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: just cannot feel comfortable with predictability out of out of 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: the United States. That's a great question. 100 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: It's what I've heard a lot from just some people 101 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: in general. And the short answer is, you know, the 102 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: US economy drives the global economy, and a lot of 103 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: people will look you know, past any sort of short 104 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: term you know, volatility in terms of you know, what 105 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 2: might be coming out of Washington because they know, you know, 106 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: where the money is right and that's ultimately what's going 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: to drive it. So the short answer is no, I 108 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: don't really see a material global impact from this where 109 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: you see investors pulling money out, because when it comes 110 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: to the when it comes to everything, at the end 111 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: of the day, you know, we're still the largest economy, 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: and that's ultimately what's going to matter. I mean, when 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: you ask what matters, you know, money talks. 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: Andy speaking of what matters. I mean, just you know, 115 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: from where I sit here, even without all this noise 116 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: about the Federal Reserve subpoenas and all that, the FED 117 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: was not really or the market is really not pricing 118 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: in any FED rate cuts until the middle of twenty 119 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: twenty six at the soonest, right, So let's get into 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about the upcoming inflation report and the 121 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: latest labor report. Those are the two you know, dual 122 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: mandates that the FED has. What's the latest data telling 123 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: you and telling us in terms of where the economy sits? 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: Here on a Monday morning, January, Well. 125 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, the really nice thing is we're finally starting to 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: get some data following a shut down in a timely manner. 127 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: So we did receive the December jobs market report last 128 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: week and it wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible. And 129 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: what it continued to show was what we've been talking 130 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: about for the past basically six twelve months. The labor 131 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: market is cooling, but it's not collapsing. So when we 132 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: look at the job report, it has there's two surveys 133 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: in there. Right, we have the government who talks to 134 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: businesses and one survey to get the data on the 135 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: number of jobs being at it. Then we have a 136 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: second survey that's independent of the first one. That's where 137 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: the government reaches out to households or individuals and say, hey, 138 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: do you have a job? Do you not have a job? 139 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: That's where we get the unemployment rate from. So we 140 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: get two different you know, data points there. So the 141 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: first one on the what employers were at it, they 142 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: added fifty thousand jobs in December. That was, you know, 143 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: definitely less than the seventy thousand that economists we're looking for. 144 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: But on top of that, you know, what we also 145 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: saw was that the prior two months were revised lower 146 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: by seventy six thousand. So it's not good from that perspective. 147 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: And I was looking at it just like a chart 148 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: of the number of jobs being added by employers, and 149 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: it looked pretty strong until like the last seven months, 150 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: and you see it flattened and get really close to zero. 151 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: We even had, you know, a pretty sizeable draw down 152 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: just a few months ago in October of almost two 153 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: hundred thousand. But when you look at like the average 154 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: number of new jobs added since last May, it's only 155 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: twelve thousand. You know, that's not a strong environment. Now, 156 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: on the bright side, the household Survey that's where the 157 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: government talks individuals, that actually showed that the unemployment rate fell. 158 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: It fell from a four point five to four point 159 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: four percent, so essentially reversing a prior uptic and that 160 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: improvement came really on two levels. One is that the 161 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: number of people saying that they were unemployed actually fell 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: by two hundred and seventy eight thousand. Meanwhile, the number 163 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: of people who said they found a job or were 164 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: employed increased by two hundred and thirty two thousand, and 165 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: that's essentially why we saw that unemployment rate drop from 166 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: four point five to four point four percent. 167 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: So when you look at. 168 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: It, you have part of it being part of the 169 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: report strong, part of it not so strong. Taken together, 170 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: it's a cooling labor market. It's not collapsing, and it's 171 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: stable enough to keep the FED from really having to 172 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 2: cut rates because the economy is slowing down on the 173 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: labor side. 174 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: And I want to clarify one point because doesn't that 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes when we talk about the unemployment rate dropping, 176 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: that sounds good. That's a good thing, right, our brains go, Okay, 177 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 3: more people are working, that's a good thing. But that 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: can't that also mean that fewer people are even looking 179 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: for jobs, people drop out of the job hunt. How 180 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: does that relate to these most recent numbers. 181 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the change in the labor market participation, it wasn't 182 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: too much. I mean it dropped by like fifty thousand 183 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: or something like that. I mean it was pretty immaterial. Again, 184 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: the real improvement came when they when the government asked, hey, 185 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: do you have a job, and you had two hundred 186 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: and thirty two thousand people saying yes, I have a job. 187 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: And when there was also how many people's you know, 188 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: few were said that they lost their job, and that 189 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: was that was a further improvement where it was less 190 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: a decline of two hundred and seventy eight thousand, so 191 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: you had a lot more people saying I have a 192 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: job and a lot fewer people saying I don't have 193 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: a job. So that was the real big drivers. It 194 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily the labor force participation in this round of things. 195 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: All right, Ay, we've got one full week of trading 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: in the books. You know, we had a slight bump 197 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: higher in the markets last week. We've got earning seasons 198 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: starting to you know, come into play in earnest this 199 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: week with a lot of bank earnings coming out. We 200 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: always hear the media talks about this all the time 201 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: as January goes, So does the year? Is there any 202 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: truth to that, you know saying? And is does history 203 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: tend to bear. 204 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: That out at all? 205 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: Or is that just noise that we should just kind 206 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: of ignore. 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: Or yeah, there is I guess a little bit of 208 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: truth in that. You know, January you know, uh, you 209 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: know uh as saying, uh, you know that said when 210 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: you look at it, January has historically been one of 211 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,479 Speaker 2: the stronger months. If you just look at the returns 212 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: by month and the person of months that are positive, 213 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: really the November through Jane or mid October really through 214 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: the end of January is really one of your strongest periods, 215 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that an investor should really you know, 216 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: exit and you know, get out for the rest of time, 217 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: because there's still positive returns on average and still better 218 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: than you know, the chance that you see positive returns 219 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: at least historically on the following months. But so, you know, 220 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: what really drives it. I think to your point that 221 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: you're really getting that is earning in corporate profits. And 222 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: when you look at profits over the past uh, you 223 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: know year, we look at all of twenty twenty five, 224 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: and we're starting to get we're going to start to 225 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 2: get fourth quarter earnings this year. We have seen quarterly 226 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: profits somewhere between ten and fifteen percent for each of 227 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: those first three quarters. When we look at what's expected 228 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: in the first quarter or expected this to be released 229 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: in this week for the fourth quarter of last year, 230 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: we'll probably see that continue in all I see right 231 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: now Wall Street's expecting in the upper single digits. But 232 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: what I'm really looking for most likely is a continuation 233 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: on that ten to fifteen percent year over year profit growth. 234 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: And that's really what drives stocks over the longer run, 235 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: because if you think about in the stock market, it's 236 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: really a collection of stocks and what matters for stocks 237 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 2: is if they're making money or not making money. And 238 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: when you when it comes down to it, they make 239 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: money when the economy is growing, when there isn't a recession. 240 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: So that's why we want to really pay close attention 241 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: to whether or not we see recession risk getting elevated. 242 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: Right now, I'll call the recession risk over the next 243 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: six to nine months kind of I'll call it slightly middle, 244 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit low to middle, certainly not high, 245 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: and that tends to build well for the stock market. 246 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean there will be short tom Rois, especially you know, 247 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: you know, as things might come out of Washington regarding 248 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve, that can certainly have an impact. But 249 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: for longer term investors, intermediate term investors, paying attention to 250 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: corporate profits, economic growth, that's really the drivers of what's 251 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: going to help your portfolios or not. 252 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: Sounds good, Andy, Thank you as always for spending time 253 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: with us tonight. Coming up next, a few key financial 254 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: opportunities you'll want to consider in twenty twenty six. These 255 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: are some smart moves that could position your portfolio for 256 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: a stronger year coming up in twenty twenty six. You're 257 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: listening to Simply Money, presented by Allworth Financial. Right here 258 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: on fifty five KRC, the talk station you're listening to 259 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: Simply Money presented by all Worth Financial. I'm Bob Sponseller 260 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: along with Brian James. If you can't listen to Simply 261 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Money live every night, subscribe and get our daily podcasts. 262 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: Just search Simply Money on the iHeart app or wherever 263 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: you find your podcasts. Multiple accounts, missed, r and ds, 264 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: oh boy, and messy donations straight ahead at six forty three. 265 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna clean all of that stuff up for you 266 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: with our quick, quick hit answers to your top money questions. 267 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: All right, Brian. Each year brings a new set of 268 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: challenges and a new set of opportunities, and there are 269 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: several opportunities out there to take advantage advantage of Pardon me. 270 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,119 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six. 271 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: YEP numbers change as the seasons. In the years do 272 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: so retirement contribution limits have changed. The IRS has announced 273 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: that contributions to four oh one k's, four h three b's, 274 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: Thrift Savings Plans and governmental four to fifty sevens can 275 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: now be maximized up to twenty four thousand, five hundred dollars. 276 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: That's up one thousand bucks. It was twenty three and 277 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: a half and twenty five. Now in twenty six it's 278 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: twenty four thousand, five hundred. That's the everybody under the 279 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: sun can make those contributions. Those over fifty we have 280 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: what's called that catchup and that's eight thousand dollars. Now again, 281 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: if you're fifty year older, then now your total limit 282 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: is thirty two five hundred dollars. Brand new rule though, 283 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: if you are a high earner, which is one hundred 284 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars. This is an individual if you're married. 285 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter if you're married or not, it matters how 286 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: much you earn under your Social Security number on your 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: W two. New rule for twenty twenty six is gonna 288 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: require you to make that catchup contribution to a designated 289 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: broth account. This could be a challenge or it could 290 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: be an opportunity. I mean, I'm not overly bothered by this. 291 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: My happiest clients wind up with two piles of money 292 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: of some pre tax stuff that they benefited from on 293 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: the deduction side, and also you know, some some wroth 294 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: type stuff that has grown over time and won't be 295 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: taxed at all. But any case, remember that catchup contribution 296 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: that has to happen in a WROTH. You're not gonna 297 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: get a choice about it. So don't be surprised if 298 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: you look at your your four to one case statement 299 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: and you see something looks a little funky. I didn't 300 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: choose WROTH. It's just happening in the background because of 301 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: what that ketchup has to be. 302 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, Brian and we brought these things up, you know, 303 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: I think in December we talked about it, you know, conceptually. 304 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Now twenty twenty six though, is here, so you know, 305 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: one thing to check on. And sometimes people want to 306 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: do this. All of these spreadsheet people that you like 307 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: to talk about that stay on top of this stuff 308 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: all day every day, are probably already on it. But 309 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: for those of you that are just more casual participants 310 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: in your retirement plans at work, you know, do check things. 311 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,359 Speaker 1: Check that website here once payroll is processed in January, 312 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: and just make sure that if you really should be 313 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: taking advantage of these catchup provisions, you're doing so, and 314 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: that your payroll provider has this stuff updated in terms 315 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: of the updated numbers. And then yeah, make sure that 316 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: that catch up money is going into the Wroth bucket. Again, 317 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: just a good reason to log into your account and 318 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: just make sure everything is up to date. We're pretty 319 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: confident it probably is. You know, most of these companies 320 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: are all on top of it. But again, good reason 321 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: to spend thirty seconds, a couple of minutes just logging 322 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: into your retirement account just to make sure Brian get 323 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: into some of the IRA and WROTH limits. In terms 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: of contract, we've got some updates there to discuss as well. 325 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we just covered was the employer based 326 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: retirement plan, you know, something you get through your job. 327 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: Now we'll pivot here to the individual retirement or individual 328 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: Wroth IRA type thing that you're doing outside of your employer. 329 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: So for twenty twenty six, IRA and Wroth IRA contribution 330 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: limit is seven five hundred dollars with an additional eleven 331 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: hundred dollars catchup. So it's a thousand dollars or eight 332 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: thousand dollars ketchup in four one K eleven hundred, just 333 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: to keep people confused. Catch up contribution for age fifty 334 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: and over, So now eighty six hundred dollars total contribution 335 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: for those fifty plus that's up from twenty twenty five, 336 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: and for a single filer, eligibility for this to begin 337 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: with phases out between one hundred and fifty three and 338 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars worth of modified 339 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: adjusted gross income. This is getting a little bit brow 340 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: beating with the numbers here, but if you earn between 341 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty hundred and seventy be paying attention. 342 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: As a single filer. If you're married filing jointly, it's 343 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: going to phase out between two forty and two hundred 344 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: and fifty seven thousand, so watch for that if you're 345 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 3: in that range. HSA. Let's pivot to hell savingscounts, one 346 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: of our favorite topics here twenty twenty six. The contribution 347 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: limit is forty four hundred dollars for an individual, only 348 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: eighty seven fifty for family coverage, and again an additional thousand 349 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: dollars catchup contribution if you're fifty five or over. So 350 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: if you are funding those accounts, as we always like 351 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: to say CURI, if if you're not using it for 352 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: current expenses, treat it like an investment. Make sure it's 353 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: landing in something that looks like a you know, a 354 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: mutual fund or something like that. You may or may 355 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: not be able to do that with your current custodian, 356 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: but you can move those dollars. You're not getting the 357 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: benefit of tax free growth if you're leaving it sit 358 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: in that optim bank account or whatever. Those banks are 359 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 3: all right. 360 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: And then one other thing we want to cover quickly 361 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: is this big beautiful bill deduction which goes into effect 362 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty six. It's a if the bill 363 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: does not become permanent, it's a temporary thing that runs 364 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: through twenty twenty eight, an extra six thousand dollars temporary 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: deduction on top of the standard deduction per spouse. But 366 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: there is a phase out on that as well, and 367 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: that phase out starts for taxpayers with incomes above seventy 368 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: five thousand for single filers one hundred and fifty thousand 369 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: dollars for joint filers. Brian, you and I have gotten 370 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: into this already, you know, with some reviews at the 371 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: end of last year, when people are starting to do 372 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: some income planning for twenty twenty six. It's just one 373 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: more thing to keep on top of. If you try 374 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: to pull money forward, pull taxable income forward, you could 375 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: you know, get into a situation where you're kind of 376 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: pricing your incoming yourself out of this. You know, senior 377 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: deduction for those age sixty five and older. So just 378 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: one more thing to keep an eye on. Here is 379 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: you do income planning for twenty twenty six. Here's the 380 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: all Worth advice. Twenty twenty six could provide a series 381 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: of opportunities for your investments. Talk to your financial advisor 382 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: about which opportunities make the most sense for your individual situation. 383 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: Should you worry about an AI bubble in twenty twenty six, Brian, 384 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: I feel like we talk about this every other week, 385 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: but with earning season coming up, it's worth mentioning again. 386 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: We'll break that down. What's real, what's the hype and 387 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: what could happen next. You're listening to Simply Money presenting 388 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: by Allworth Financial on fifty five KRC the talk station. 389 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Simply Money presented by all Worth Financial 390 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: and Bob Sponsller along with Brian James Well as we 391 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: talk about all the time. AI stocks have powered most 392 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: of the S and P five hundreds gains in recent years, 393 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: but with soaring valuations and big warning warnings from some 394 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: season portfolio managers, people that you know, let's face that 395 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: are talking their book might even be shorting these stocks 396 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: right now, Brian, Should we be worried about a bubble 397 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: in AI stocks? And if there is a bubble, is 398 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: it going to burst this year? Something we should probably 399 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: mention here with fourth quarter earning season starting to really 400 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: get into full gear here over the next couple of weeks. 401 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be paying a lot of attention to this 402 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: because AI has been the catalyst, right There's always a 403 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: catalyst driving something behind the market, you know, and most 404 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: recently it's been artificial intelligence and the scale that it 405 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: can bring to public traded companies. But investors haven't really 406 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: reacted to this yet, Bob, so nine out of ten 407 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 3: investors who already own AI related stocks say they plan 408 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: to either hold or buy more in twenty six. That's 409 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: coming from Motley Fool, aptly named because you know, I 410 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: feel like, of course, of course that's what they're saying. 411 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: They're saying, no, we're not stampeding right now, We're gonna 412 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: stampede later, you know. So that's not necessarily an indicator 413 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: of the If these people were saying, yes, I'm gonna 414 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: get out they'd be getting out right now. So but 415 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: in any case, surveys are worth what they are. So 416 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: ninety three percent of current AI investors do remain bullish 417 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: on the long term return potential. And again that's coming 418 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: despite those warnings from those portfolio managers that that that 419 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: you referred there. 420 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: Well, and I think, as we talk about all the time, Brian, 421 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: it all comes down to valuation and other in other words, 422 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: how much are you willing to pay for a dollar's 423 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: worth of earnings and what's the expected future earnings growth rate? 424 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: And really these numbers fly all over the place. There 425 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: are companies that are trading at you know, over one 426 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: hundred times earnings on a forward moving basis, and and 427 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: that you know, can be a little rich, and those 428 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of stocks can really tank in a hurry if 429 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: and when we get a little blip in any kind 430 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: of earnings news that creates any negativity. There are other 431 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: AI related stocks that are really not trading you know, 432 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: at obscene multiples. The growth rates have justified the stock 433 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: prices and are expected to do so. So it's really 434 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: on a stock by stock basis, which again for the 435 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: investor listening out there, it all comes down to how 436 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: you are managing your portfolio personally, or if you have 437 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: an advisor, how your advisor and his or her team 438 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: are managing things. I think the point we want to 439 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: make here is stay diversified. Don't have all your eggs 440 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: in one basket. If you really have ridden the ride 441 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: here on some of these AI stocks and have some 442 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: really nice gains and you have a need to diversify 443 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: your portfolio for tax reasons or risk management reasons, now 444 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: might be a time to sit down with your advisor 445 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: and really look under the hood, see what you own, 446 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: see what some of these valuations are, and be proactive 447 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: about adjusting the overall allocation of your portfolio. 448 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that, And I mean there's 449 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: really never not a good time to be paying attention 450 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: to that. But the worst time to pay attention to 451 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: to not pay attention to that is never, And that's 452 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 3: what a lot of people do, just kind of blindly 453 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: let things wander and don't come back into that. And 454 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: to review what that portfolio actually looks like. So that 455 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: we always talk about those magnificent seven stocks, make sure 456 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: that you've spread your portfolio out beyond those those are 457 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: and you know all the names at this point, we 458 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: don't need to beat it to death. But those are 459 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: a huge part of the S and P five hundred. 460 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: So even if you're sitting on index fund, yeah, you're 461 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 3: kind of diversified. But at the same time, just remember 462 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: that those those stocks are making up a large portion 463 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: of your overall portfolio. And that group lost a trillion 464 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 3: dollars in one week in late late last year, and 465 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: we started to see a big, big bearish investors like 466 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: Michael Burry. I don't remember him, but he's famous from 467 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. He is one of the ones 468 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: that predicted the real estate downturn, doesn't meganma genius. He's 469 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: also made some bad guesses too, but he certainly was 470 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: moving against alter artificial intelligence type stocks. Also Ray Dalio, 471 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: another famous name soothsayer if you will, He feels like 472 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: the AI boom is getting into an early bubble territory. 473 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: To use his words, just kind of saying that the 474 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 3: has characteristics to similar pass bubbles. So just be careful 475 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: what we're getting into, you know, don't necessarily throw good 476 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: money after bad if if things move south on you. 477 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Well, and Brian, you raise a good point. I mean, 478 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: just looking back over at the last say, four to 479 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: six weeks of twenty twenty five, if you look at 480 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: these big cap stocks, they really didn't do much and 481 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: in fact, they kind of pulled back a little bit, 482 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: while the overall market did just fine. And I think 483 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: we've already started to see a little bit of this 484 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: rebalancing and sector rotation, you know, amongst institutional money managers. 485 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: I personally think that's a good thing, you know, for 486 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: folks that are managing portfolios responsibly, because you know, if 487 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: you get away from just these AI hyperscalers that are 488 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: putting huge capital investments into AI, it eventually it's going 489 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: to come down to who can make money and generate 490 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: profits from utilizing this up and coming technology. And the 491 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: answer to that should be every industry, every sector, if 492 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: they're really paying attention and allocating capital correctly. So I 493 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: think we've already started to see a little bit of 494 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: healthy sector rotation. I expect that personally to continue twenty 495 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: twenty six. Again while not abandoning all these big cap 496 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: AI stocks who let's freight, let's face it, they still 497 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: have really nice earnings growth. Again, it's just don't pile 498 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: in to just a handful of stocks because you could 499 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: end up, you know, being sorry if and when the 500 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: whole earning story maybe pivots a little bit. 501 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have zero concern about AI going away, and 502 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: just as if it was never here. This kind of 503 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: feels like that when the Internet was first a thing 504 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: and people were saying, well, this is a flash in 505 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: the pan. Nobod's gonna want to use their computers to 506 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: buy stuff online? Right with this Amazon company they sell books? 507 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: Who cares about that? I can get books for free 508 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: from the library. But I feel like the AI is 509 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: definitely these are tools that do make things more efficient 510 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: and they make work easier. Is it going to be 511 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: the hype that is currently presented. No, that's what makes 512 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: it hype. But at the same time, these tools will 513 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 3: not go away. They do allow for much more efficient 514 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: day to day business activity. So again, just just be 515 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: just be responsible and mindful of what the limitates. 516 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: Here's the all Worth advice. Diversify, diversify, diversify and focus 517 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: on fundamentals and plan for both corrections and continued growth. 518 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: And as Brian said, planning ahead is better than planning 519 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: after it already happens. That's what we call discipline, not 520 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: fear or fear of missing out. That's what protects and 521 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: grows your wealth over time. Did you forget your R 522 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: and D last year? Well, you're not alone. We'll tackle 523 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: real listener questions on that topic and some misdeadlines on 524 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: rmds to Wroth moves and smarter giving strategies. All that 525 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: and more coming up next. You're listening to Simply Money 526 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: presented by all Worth Financial on fifty five KRC the 527 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: talk station. You're listening to Simply Money presented by all 528 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Worth Financial Lambob Sponseller along with Brian James. Do you 529 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: have a financial question you'd like for us to answer? 530 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: There's a red button you can click while you're listening 531 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: to the show if and only if you're listening to 532 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: the show on the iHeart app. Simply record your question 533 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: there and it will come straight to us. All right. 534 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Brian Arthur in Hyde Park leads us off tonight. He says, 535 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: we delayed Wroth conversions for years and now we're in 536 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six wishing we had done more. Is it 537 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: too late to make meaningful changes to our portfolio and 538 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: text strategy? 539 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: Brian, Now, I would say it's never too late to 540 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: really think about roth conversions, because we're you're talking about 541 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: something that is a sacrifice right now but will do 542 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: nothing but benefit as we go forward. And roth conversions 543 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 3: really need a lot of time to be beneficial anyway. 544 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: So don't feel like just because we missed a year 545 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: that it no longer makes sense. But so what I 546 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: would suggest is separate the missed opportunity from the remaining opportunity. Yeah, 547 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: converting aggressively when you're in lower tax years, of course, 548 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: that would have reduced fewer RMD exposures. That's perfect. So 549 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: would betting on last year's lottery numbers. You'd have been 550 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: fine doing that too, if you can predict the future. 551 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: But WROTH planning, it's not an on and off switch. 552 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: It is very much a multi decade tax rate arbitrage problem. 553 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: You're simply trying to say, I want to pay taxes 554 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: now because I feel like taxes are gonna go up 555 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: in the future, or because I think the overall growth 556 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: will be beneficial to me, And so just make sure 557 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: that you understand, you know what the impact you haven't 558 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: really lost, And tax planning and roth conversion to me 559 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: is an annual decision anyway. So I feel like there's 560 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: still plenty of room. I wouldn't worry about too much 561 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: about that. So let's move on to Beth and Mainville, 562 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: who says she forgot this can give me PTSD forgot 563 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: to take my rm D and I'm freaking out. Well 564 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: what can she do? Bob? 565 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: All right? Well, first of all, Beth, calm down, no 566 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: reason to freak out. By the same token, you do 567 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: need to address this. We see this come up from 568 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: time to time. So the first thing is, don't bury 569 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: your head in the sand and just wish and hope 570 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: this problem is gonna go away, because I can promise 571 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: you the IRS is not going to treat it that way. 572 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: So here's what you do. First, figure out what your 573 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: rm D should have been for twenty twenty five. Figure 574 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: out what that number is and make sure that gets processed, 575 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: and then work with your tax professional CPA if you 576 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: have one, or if you do it yourself. You're you know, 577 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: either way, you're gonna have to file something called an 578 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: IRS Form five three two nine to address the missed 579 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: rm D. So what's gonna happen is you got to 580 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: take this rm D, and I'd recommend taking it sooner 581 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: rather than later. The IRS is going to want to 582 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: see evidence that you address the problem, recognize it, and 583 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: dealt with it. Don't try to, you know, take advantage 584 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: of seven more months of tax deferral and try to 585 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: get out from under penalties. Uh, address it right away, 586 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: file form fifty three twenty nine, you know, because again 587 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: as a reminder, there is a twenty five percent penalty 588 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: on the missed rm D amount that the IRS can 589 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: levy on you if they want to. They ten that's 590 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: reduced to ten percent if you correct it within the 591 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: first two years and file that fifty three to twenty 592 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: nine form properly. In a lot of cases, the IRS 593 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: will waive the penalty entirely if you can show reasonable 594 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: cause on that form for why you missed it and 595 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: show evidence that you fixed it promptly. Brian, I've had 596 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: a couple clients go through this over the last couple 597 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: of years, and we got on it in the first 598 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: couple weeks of January, and we went ahead and pulled 599 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: out both the rm D for twenty twenty five plus 600 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: any earnings that accrued in twenty twenty six on that 601 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: missed rm D amount. We pulled it out right now, 602 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: got it out of there filed the form. Now, remember 603 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: you also still have to take your twenty twenty six RMD, 604 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: and for tax planning purposes, both of those distributions are 605 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: going to be treated as taxable income for twenty twenty six. 606 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: I've yet to have a client that addressed this, you know, 607 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: promptly and thoroughly get assessed a penalty. Have you had situations, 608 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, similar to this, And how is this all 609 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: shaken out for you and your clients? 610 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, honestly, Bob, I've never had a negative 611 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: interaction with the I R S when people are just 612 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: trying to figure things out. 613 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. 614 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: There is so much that it's so complicated that even 615 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: the I R S folks, they'll never tell you, you know, 616 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: here's the exact playbook. What you do in this situation. 617 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: You simply make your case. And I've always found them 618 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: outside of situations where somebody is obviously trying to commit 619 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 3: fraud or or you know, is just blatantly, you know, 620 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: just ignoring their taxes if it's just a one off, whoops, 621 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: I did my tax is wrong, They've always been flexible. 622 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: One quick thought I want to throw out to Beth 623 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: is that if this happens to be your first time 624 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: taking an RMD, you haven't missed a deadline yet because 625 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: the first year you take it is that the deadline 626 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: is tax time for the prior year, so that would 627 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: be April of twenty six. So if this hacks will 628 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: be your very first you're still okay. So but yeah, 629 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: just pay attention to that. We don't we don't know 630 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: if that's the situation for you, but you might you 631 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: might be okay. 632 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Beth, no reason to freak out. But by 633 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: the same token, get on top of it, be thorough, 634 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: do your filing, and I think everything's going to work 635 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: out just fine. All right. John in Blue Ash says, 636 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: I have a four to one K plan through my employer, 637 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: but I also have started a site hustle that's bringing 638 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: in some pretty significant income. Am I allowed to also 639 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: have a solo for a one K? Brian? 640 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? So here this is where it gets a little confusing. 641 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: So the quick answer to John is yes, you're allowed 642 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: to have both plans. Here's a situation. You've got a 643 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: W two type job with an employer sponsored for a 644 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: one K and a bona fide self employment income. That 645 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: means you've got a schedule see our partnership K one 646 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: single member LLC that kind of thing. Then yes, you 647 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: can establish and contribute to a solo for a one K. 648 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: However that this might be what you're asking. That employee 649 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: salary deferral limit, which is as we said earlier in 650 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: this broadcast is twenty four five hundred plus to catch up. 651 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: That applies across all of your all of your retirement plans. 652 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: So you'll still need to pay attention to the total 653 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: dollar amount going into these. You don't get that twenty 654 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: four and a half in twenty six using for each plan. 655 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: It is a total. You can't double it, so make 656 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: sure you're paying attention to that. It's really the employer 657 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: contributions that's what's separate. That's the real advantage of the 658 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: solo for OH one K, because you get to put 659 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: some more on money on top that comes from the business. 660 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: I know it's confusing if you're a soul prop because 661 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: you're both the employee and the employer, But the IRS 662 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 3: looks at those two contributions, those two sources as very different. 663 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 3: The employer contribution does not count against your personal deferral limit. 664 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: That's why you're doing this, that's the benefit of the 665 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 3: solo for O on K. It's not to take advantage 666 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: of the twenty four to five that everybody gets, is 667 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: to take advantage of the employer side of things. 668 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, we're going to unpack what 669 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: the latest legit research says about where investors are actually 670 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: getting their information with which to make investment decisions, and 671 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: the big question should you follow suit. You're listening to 672 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: Simply Money Presided by all Worth Financial lung fifty five 673 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: KRC the talk station. You're listening to Simply Money Presided 674 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: by all Worth Financial on Bob Sponseller along with Brian 675 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: ja Games. Well, let's talk about, Brian. One of the 676 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: hottest trends in personal finance right now, finn influencers and 677 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: social media advice, something I know nothing about, but I 678 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: know you're a hip gen X kind of dude, so 679 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: you're probably all on top of this. Brian. Do you 680 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: get your financial advice off TikTok? Is that where you 681 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: get all your great trading ideas? 682 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: That's all That's all I do. I mean, it's a 683 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: financial advisor. All I need to do is regurgitate stuff 684 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: I see in thirty second video clips on the internet. 685 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: That's really it's tops easy about. 686 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: All right, Well, tell us tell us about what the 687 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Finra Investor Education Foundation has concluded after some fairly significant research. 688 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is limited to they interview at finn 689 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: by the way, that's one of the governing bodies of 690 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: our industry, and it surveyed nearly three thousand people with 691 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: non retirement investment accounts. So we're talking about people who 692 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 3: have investment money, because that's normally where people kind of 693 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 3: play with their assets in some kind of broker's account 694 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: that is not a four one K, not an IRA. 695 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: So among these three thousand people, three and ten of 696 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: them report on relying on social media as an information source, 697 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: and when asked separately about the social channels they actually 698 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: use for investing information, YouTube is the most popular. And 699 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: also three and ten stated that they use these recommendations 700 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 3: from these social media influencers when making investment decisions. In 701 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: other words, it's just not something to stare at. They're 702 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 3: actually acting on the information they're getting. Six in ten 703 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: of those under thirty five and six and ten of 704 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 3: those with less than two years of investing experience. What 705 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: that tells me is that that is the most that 706 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: is good, bad, or and different. But social media is 707 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: viewed as the most obvious way to get started. These 708 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: are younger people and people who don't have much investing experience, 709 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 3: and that's where they're starting. And I don't mean to 710 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: sound Ryan Bryan. 711 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: Does this mean that I can go on YouTube and 712 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: simultaneously learn all about tying fly fishing flies and learn 713 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: about what the best triple leverage bitcoin ETF is? Can 714 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: I get all that in one location? 715 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 3: Yes, you can get lots of terrible advice from social media. 716 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: No. 717 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: I help me to sound an alarm here, because there 718 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 3: is good information to be had out there, But the 719 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: flashyar it is and the more obnoxious it is, probably 720 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 3: the more useless it actually is. I would be looking 721 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: toward the more boring influencers out there, right. There are 722 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: some out there that do provide a much broader picture 723 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: than just invest in this one XYZ thing because it's 724 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 3: going to make a bazillion dollars next week. That's where 725 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: the attraction starts, and that's where people can get stounded 726 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: down the wrong path. And my concern there is if 727 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: for these folks who are using these types of resources 728 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: for their very first time investing. There's a real good 729 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 3: chance that they're just going to get a bad taste 730 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: in their mouth. These are the people who ten years 731 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 3: from now we'll talk about, well, I lost all my 732 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 3: money in the stock market, which is simply a silly 733 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 3: comment because I'm looking at the stock market right now. 734 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 3: It didn't go away. It's still here. If you lost 735 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: or so and so lost all their money in the 736 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: stock market, so and so is gambling on stupid ideas. 737 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 3: So that's the kind of stuff that you have to 738 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: watch for. Build the core, do the boring stuff first, 739 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 3: and then look to the If you really still have 740 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 3: that temptation, look for these influencers and these these little 741 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: take a flyer on something, but do it with a 742 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: small portion of your assets and learn how it works. 743 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Well. A positive spin on this story, and I mean 744 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: that I think it's positive that folks are out there 745 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: trying to learn more about investing. The good news here 746 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: is that the folks that are going out on these 747 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: social media challenge channels, they're getting about seventy five percent 748 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: of their recommendations and ideas from actual brokerage firms and 749 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: financial professionals, which means this industry is starting to evolve 750 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: enough to be to have a presence on these channels 751 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: where actual young people are and live and operate. Education 752 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: is always a good thing. It's just interesting to watch 753 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: how it all unfolds. And you know the hard thing 754 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: for these young folks is to sift the bad information 755 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: from the good information, and that's what makes things so 756 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: challenging out there in social media land. Here's the all 757 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: Worth advice. Social media can spark financial creosity, but your 758 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: wealth deserves insight grounded in expertise, not just likes in views. 759 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening tonight. You've been listening to Simply Money, 760 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: presented by all Worth Financial on fifty five KRC, the 761 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: talk station