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Speaker 2: That first segment went fast. We're talking about the war

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about this.

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Speaker 3: This is you.

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Speaker 2: Got me my real passions local polities. Well, and you

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Speaker 1: It's where the rubber meets the road for ye as

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Speaker 2: And this week there was an introduction of at Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: introduced Reparations for Affordable Housing emotion to uh get what

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Speaker 2: and chat kind of look look more in depth about that, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For to help people in the most fifteen targeted community,

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Speaker 2: And ad Adam Kohler is going to join us here

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Speaker 2: coming up after the news. He is an editor and

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Speaker 2: publisher of the Cincinnati Exchange. The cincinnat Exchange dot Com

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Speaker 2: wrote a really good article on this. He's you know,

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Speaker 2: he dives in. He's a big local political guru. Ran

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Speaker 2: Radio seven hundred ww Welcome back to the News Radio

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Jason Williams rolling along Saturday night. Love it,

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Speaker 2: loved doing this show. Local public interest attorney, former Hamilton

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Speaker 2: news site independent news online news newspaper and they're doing

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Speaker 2: really great work. And Adam Adam Taylor is with US

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Speaker 2: Ranford County Commission in twenty twenty four as well Hamilton

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Speaker 5: Hey, that's pretty good. Also how to run as a

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Speaker 3: Before that?

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Speaker 2: So I knew you'd run for something else us too,

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Speaker 2: Like you've been very very politically engaged in recent years

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Speaker 2: and not You're You're I enjoy following you on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: You're you're all over anything local and a great guy

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Speaker 1: And let's just Whatnati Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Adam, thanks thanks for joining us tonight. And uh you

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Speaker 2: Mayor jan Michelle lemon Kearney posed a reparations policy to basically,

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Speaker 2: I just pay back folks who have been discriminated against

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Where?

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Speaker 1: What what know?

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Speaker 2: You've you've dove into this more, Adam, Like, Where's what's

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Speaker 5: So this money actually comes from a tax on cannabis.

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Speaker 5: It's a tax distribution. I believe the city has already

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Speaker 5: I've always said city council, County Commission, the mayor's office.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're monopolized by progressive dempress in Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 5: And the government should be getting.

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Speaker 6: Out of the way.

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Speaker 5: They shouldn't be the solution for any of this stuff.

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Speaker 5: And is redlining wrong?

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Speaker 5: Fixed Sunset opening, for God's sake. I mean that thing

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Speaker 1: And the other other thing about this quote unquote reparations

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Speaker 1: And I could see this very well happening with such

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Speaker 2: the city, and you're so in tune to all the

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Speaker 2: local local politics, Adam, And my question in both of

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Speaker 2: you know, but well, my question is who would be

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Speaker 2: would go about receiving it. Here's how you would go,

436
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Speaker 2: Here's how city hall go about tracking that. Is any

437
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Speaker 2: of that? I'm what I'm reading here is I don't

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Speaker 2: see any of that in this legislation that's been introduced.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of that would still have

440
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Speaker 5: to be worked through. And the wild thing is is,

441
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm a landlord. I've been renting property for

442
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Speaker 5: thirty years now. I don't know if you guys know this,

443
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Speaker 5: but HUDDS Section eight actually has a program for people

444
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Speaker 5: to buy houses. So if you're renting right now with

445
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Speaker 5: one of the you can go to Fifth Third Bank

446
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Speaker 5: right now and you could work out a deal with them.

447
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 5: They actually have special loans for people, so it's not

448
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Speaker 5: like it's impossible for people to become homeowners. It is

449
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Speaker 5: possible and fit their bank. Specific that. I met with

450
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Speaker 5: a guy who manages the loans when I was running

451
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Speaker 5: for office, because I was like, Wow, this is a

452
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Speaker 5: really good solution to take people off of a system

453
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Speaker 5: that constantly increases. When you think about it, rents don't

454
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Speaker 5: go down, but we continue to have people on Section

455
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Speaker 5: eight on these programs where the rents go up every year.

456
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Speaker 5: So it's more of a burden on taxpayers. And in

457
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Speaker 5: this program already, this where they could just buy a

458
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Speaker 5: house if they wanted to. We don't need jan Michelle Kearney,

459
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 5: we don't need Scottie Johnson and these other folks the

460
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 5: step and there are programs available. Why don't they just

461
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Speaker 5: introduce people to these programs?

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Speaker 2: Well that's another question too, Like, I know a great point, Adam.

463
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Speaker 2: I was like, as I've read about this story, and

464
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Speaker 2: I Paul, I was in Arizona last week of the

465
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Speaker 2: Reds and I'd got off the plane late last night

466
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Speaker 2: and the fog of the time change and all that,

467
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Speaker 2: I'm catching up. I saw the headline earlier in the week.

468
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Speaker 2: I'm like, huh. And then as I'm reading and catching

469
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Speaker 2: up on it today, it's like, why why call Like

470
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Speaker 2: it seems like why are they calling it reparations when

471
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Speaker 2: it seems to me like it's an affordable housing program,

472
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Speaker 2: Like if you're in low income housing right now, I

473
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Speaker 2: mean again this is surface he stuff, but you can

474
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Speaker 2: apply then to get this assistance, is what it sounds

475
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Speaker 2: to me like, So why is it being called reparations?

476
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Speaker 2: And is that is that only being called that because

477
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Speaker 2: the the the politicians introduced that want to play kate

478
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Speaker 2: to their right, k to their liberal To me, it

479
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Speaker 2: sounds looks like a low income housing program to me,

480
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Speaker 2: as you know, just kind of in the generic, looking

481
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Speaker 2: at you know, the the the motion or that was introduced.

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Speaker 2: I've got yeah, I got it here in front of me.

483
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Speaker 2: But uh, you know, just the what the three or

484
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Speaker 2: four paragraph motion about. It looks to me like a

485
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Speaker 2: pretty standard low income housing fund is what this is.

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Speaker 1: But you see the reparations, Yeah, why why why?

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Speaker 5: That explicitly uses the word reparations. And this is political right,

488
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Speaker 5: It's hey, look I'm on your side here. I'm the

489
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Speaker 5: one bringing you the reparations you've been asking for. That's

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Speaker 5: exactly what they're.

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Speaker 2: Doing the Cincinnati, I say, the the official word, the

492
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Speaker 2: official title of the motion is the Cincinnati Real Property

493
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Speaker 2: Reparations Program, introduced by Jan Michelle lemon Kearney Vice Mayor

494
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Speaker 2: and co spying co sign co sponsored by council Member

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Speaker 2: Scotti Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just the terminology to play to their base,

497
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Speaker 1: to show how you it's almost I think one upsmanship

498
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Speaker 1: with these progressive I can I'm more progressive than you are,

499
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Speaker 1: so I'm going to do something that's quote quote reparations,

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Speaker 1: which again shows how the left operates. I think in

501
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Speaker 1: terms of dividing, there's nothing unifying about this. There's not

502
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Speaker 1: something like, hey, we all want to you know, a

503
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Speaker 1: rising tide all lifts all ships. We want to bring

504
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Speaker 1: everybody up and create the opportunity. No, this is you're

505
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Speaker 1: a victim. I'm gonna fight for you as a victim.

506
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Speaker 1: And that's that victimology that the left operates from.

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Speaker 5: Everything Kurt is about separating people. It's about taking from

508
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Speaker 5: one person and giving it to another person. And the

509
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Speaker 5: whole reason, like I said, I grew up in poverty.

510
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Speaker 5: I was a Democrat. I voted for Obama. You know,

511
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Speaker 5: I finally woke up several years ago. But the thing is,

512
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Speaker 5: the reason I left is because they spend more time

513
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Speaker 5: telling you what you can't do versus what you can do.

514
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Speaker 5: And a lot of them, I mean, let's be honest,

515
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 5: look at the people who are in leadership positions in

516
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Speaker 5: our city. What have they accomplished, What have they done?

517
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 5: What outstanding thing did they?

518
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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 5: I think jan Michelle Kearney, she has some business success,

520
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: but what are these people? I mean, look at the

521
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Speaker 5: people that run every year.

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Speaker 1: They really don't run a business. They don't write, they

523
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: don't issue pay checks, they don't do any of that, right,

524
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Speaker 1: they don't. They're never in that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean now we're on to the kind of the

527
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Speaker 2: bigger you know, and I'm glad you're bringing this up. Adam.

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Speaker 2: Adam Taylor joins us here on WLW because this is

529
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Speaker 2: what's really bothered me about you know, since John Cranley

530
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Speaker 2: was term limited out of office, what's bothered me about

531
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Speaker 2: the council that we have now? And there's been a

532
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Speaker 2: few folks that have changed, but sort of the post

533
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Speaker 2: PG sitting fell Christopher Smitherman the council. What's bothered me

534
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: about this council is it like what have they accomplish collectively?

535
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Speaker 2: What has this council and I and mayor? And again

536
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: there's been a couple, you know what, one or two change,

537
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: Liz Keating was voted out, but like generally speaking, what

538
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: has this council done? Like what like it's like it's

539
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: almost like this go along to get along and we

540
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: all want to be friends and we were all afraid,

541
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Speaker 2: like we don't want to be viewed the way the

542
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Speaker 2: Gang of five text messages group was or the way

543
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Speaker 2: that uh, you know, Tom Dennard and PG sitting Feld

544
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: and Jeff Pastor and like, oh my gosh, like that's

545
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: not us, Like so we're just gonna pretend like we

546
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: all get along so well, and like everybody's just gonna

547
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: kind of go along with it. And then the next thing,

548
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Speaker 2: you know, like, I mean, you made a great point,

549
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Speaker 2: like they've got this billion dollars from the railroad and

550
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: the roads aren't getting fixed, Like what what is going on?

551
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: They want to take other ahead.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, someone told me that they can only spend a

553
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Speaker 5: certain amount even if they made sixty eighty million dollars

554
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 5: a year with that money they can own, they only

555
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Speaker 5: have the capacity to spend so much of it. And

556
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys know this, but ODOT

557
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 5: put out a report and the cost to build a

558
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: mile of road in Cincinnati went up something like fifty

559
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: one percent in twenty twenty four. And that's like local

560
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 5: things like asphalts, asphalts made and people were like, oh, well,

561
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 5: that's that's because of Trump's terraces. Asphalts completely made the

562
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 5: United States, labor costs, the Union stuff, all that stuff,

563
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 5: drives up these costs. So when you look at that

564
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 5: railroad money that they're making, say they make six and

565
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Speaker 5: a half percent, and that's what UBS projected them to

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Speaker 5: make every year. If you can only use that money

567
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 5: on infrastructure, but your infrastructure costs go up fifty one

568
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Speaker 5: percent in one year and you made six and a

569
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Speaker 5: half percent, you're way behind the eight fall they're buying

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00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: power on. That money got cut in half, and that.

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Speaker 1: Fifty one percent what is driven the lot by the

572
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati City's policies as a cop coming out of city

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Speaker 1: Hall in terms of prevailing wage or whatever.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's across Ohio. That's where it's a higher.

575
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Speaker 5: Department's Transportation came out with that, but it was a

576
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Speaker 5: reporter and I'm like, wow, I knew inflation on infrastructure

577
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 5: was around eight percent a year. So no matter how

578
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 5: much they made, because the city has to put half

579
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 5: of the money in fixed income, and when interest rates

580
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: were high, that looked fine. Because people are making four

581
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Speaker 5: and a half five percent a year on fixed income. Well,

582
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Speaker 5: with interest rates dropping, they have to rotate that money

583
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Speaker 5: every year. They can't just keep money in those funds

584
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Speaker 5: that they that they bought into. It four percent. By law,

585
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 5: they have to rotate out of those funds. So when

586
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Speaker 5: they rotate out and interest rates are dropping, they're gonna

587
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: make less and less money off that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just think, I just think this whole

589
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Speaker 1: reparations bill, it's a way to spend other people's money

590
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Speaker 1: to curry favor with your base, you know. And the

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Speaker 1: worst thing is to I'll kind of wrap up on

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Speaker 1: this is it's making. When he was sworn in his

593
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Speaker 1: mayor in January of this year, the mayor talked about

594
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Speaker 1: increasing the income tax on Cincinnati residents. So it's like,

595
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: it's not like we have extra money. It's like, guys,

596
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: you just want to take and take and take and

597
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: spend on your pet.

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Speaker 2: Projects and and and you guys both know this some

599
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: you know, speaking to the choir on this. But what

600
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: what we're seeing is this is the this is the

601
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Speaker 2: the downside of one party rule and and and and not.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about Congress here, where it's just a

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00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: handful of votes one way. Uh, We're talking about complete

604
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Speaker 2: dominance of one There are no there's no one else

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Speaker 2: from the other party involved in this body. Uh. And

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00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, in this elected body there chamber then they're

607
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: an echo chamber, and so you don't even in places

608
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Speaker 2: like you know, even though you know, look at the

609
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State House, one party rules uh, the Senate and

610
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: the House the House, but there are at least still

611
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: other folks in there from the other party who can

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: provide a dissenting voice and go out and talk to

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Speaker 2: the media and stand up on the floor and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is a bad idea, and I'll say

615
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Speaker 2: why or whatever. We don't have that at all at

616
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: Cincinnati City Hall, and and and and now we're seeing

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00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: we're seeing the results of that, and that's very frustrating

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Speaker 2: because in my mind, what I would like to see,

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Speaker 2: you'd like to see, you know, of course, like this

620
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: is a Democrat city, so be it whatever, but you'd

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Speaker 2: like to see, you know, at least one or two seats,

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Speaker 2: two seats held by someone that's not an endorsed Democrat,

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Speaker 2: an independent or Republican, you know. And again you know

624
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Speaker 2: that a majority of the seats are going to be held,

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Speaker 2: you know, by democrats. It is a democrat city, just

626
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Speaker 2: like in the Ohio's in Ohio a red, red state,

627
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Speaker 2: so a majority of seats in the state House are

628
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Speaker 2: going to be but it's just it's it's so frustrating

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Speaker 2: when you know and then no one else and run,

630
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Speaker 2: Like if you're not endorsed by the Democrats, yeah you can't,

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Speaker 2: you can't run. You're cooked, right, I mean we had

632
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: some good candidates uh uh, you know running last time,

633
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Speaker 2: you know, not non non endorsed Democrats, some of whom

634
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: were Democrats, but no, we're endorsed, some of whom were independent,

635
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Speaker 2: some of them are Republicans, and not on one of

636
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: them at a shot. It's frustrating, but anyway, we got

637
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: to get to a break at them. This was this

638
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: was fantastic. We're we're running over, We're running over time.

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Speaker 2: We got to do it again sometime. I'd love to

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Speaker 2: have you in studio when I'm when I'm doing some

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Speaker 2: of this stuff on Saturday nights, Adam, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I just want to leave you guys with this.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats have been using African Americans and my people,

644
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: my Apple Acian people as pawns for their political purposes

645
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 5: in this city for a long time, and I'd like

646
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Speaker 5: them to actually do something to change these people's lives

647
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 5: instead of just give, give, give, and then take it

648
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Speaker 5: right away from them. I mean, let's actually do something

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Speaker 5: to help these people. As a Republican, the last thing

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Speaker 5: I want is to pay more taxes. If you've got

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Speaker 5: poor people in the city, we have to support them,

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Speaker 5: We have to pay more taxes. Let's get more people

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Speaker 5: back on their feet and working, and let's bring some jobs.

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Speaker 1: Power and power.

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Speaker 2: Adam Taylor's Adam Taylor from the cincinnatix Change to since

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: Good talking to you, Bud. We'll catch you next time.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Yes, sir, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to a break here on news radio seven

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Speaker 2: hundred ww and I'm sorry for that. You you you

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Speaker 2: were starting to say, you know, there was no direct but.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing what I knew at the moment,

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Speaker 1: at the time the party came through. The one thing

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Speaker 1: I knew was that if you remember, after PG got

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Speaker 1: convicted at federal federal court, he took his appeal up

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Speaker 1: to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals based here in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and his attorney on the appeal before the Sixth Circuit

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Speaker 1: was DC attorney with the Jones Day Law Firm by good,

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Speaker 1: very good attorney Yakov Roth, who I've actually actually was

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Speaker 1: co counsel with on a case a few several years ago.

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Speaker 1: But at the time, uh, mister Roth had suddenly become

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Speaker 1: a been appointed to the US Department of Justice by

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Speaker 1: President Trump. He's the principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General. They

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Speaker 1: put all these titles and everything.

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Speaker 3: But so in.

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Speaker 2: In the middle of all this, this guy goes from

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Speaker 2: being pg's attorney into the Department of Justice to the

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Speaker 2: Department to make the senior.

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Speaker 1: Level at the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And so I mean, certainly, certainly the guy knew the case, right,

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Speaker 2: So he's I mean you say, I mean again, like,

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Speaker 2: is it is it a well, yeah, stupid, of course

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Speaker 2: that was the That's what happened. But or you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it's you still gotta be you still got it.

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Speaker 2: We don't have full proof of that, and we may

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Speaker 2: we probably would never would and it.

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Speaker 1: May have just been, hey, can you take a look

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Speaker 1: at my former clients case file or whatever could I

691
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Speaker 1: get saying? President Trump is I think being very liberal

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Speaker 1: in the granting of pardons beyond beyond the Jay six stuff,

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Speaker 1: beyond other stuff. And I think that's right. I don't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with doing It's like Oh, he's departing

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Speaker 1: too many people. Well, I think some people I question,

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Speaker 1: but I think overall, I think the presidents should be

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Speaker 1: very liberal. You know, we are a forgiving country. We're

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Speaker 1: a forgiving nation. You know, we want nation of second chances.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's the right that is actually the

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Speaker 1: right way to do it. So that being said, though,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing is, you know Pg's conviction. Even though

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Speaker 1: he was convicted, the Sixth Circuit, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: upheld his conviction. He fought to then ask the US

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court to consider the appeal, during which time it's

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Speaker 1: pending before the US Supreme Court. He gets the pardon,

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Speaker 1: which in most no, no, most scenarios, hey cases over with.

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Speaker 1: You don't have any criminal liability, et cetera. You're not

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Speaker 1: even criminally accountable anymore, no case existing anymore. That appeal

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Speaker 1: to the US Supreme Court is still pending. I just say,

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Speaker 1: he's still waiting for the US Court Court to decide

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Speaker 1: whether the US Supreme Court to decide whether they will

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Speaker 1: or will not accept his case.

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Speaker 2: So hang on real quick. From the legal standpoint, if

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Speaker 2: he's been pardoned by the you know, so he's out

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Speaker 2: out of prison, is he he could run for office

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Speaker 2: again again. So then why is there and then still

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Speaker 2: some any kind of legal issue pending on this.

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Speaker 1: Well that the argument from you know, from the government

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Speaker 1: side of his case is moved, there's no longer any

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Speaker 1: criminal liability, et cetera. They're kind of saying, judge Court,

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Speaker 1: this is an important nuance of the wall that really

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Speaker 1: needs clarification, that the courts are getting it wrong out there.

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Speaker 10: Er.

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Speaker 2: So he's fighting the good fight for all the other

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Speaker 2: wrongful kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's also trying to get vindication himself

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Speaker 1: that I was wrongfully convicted because they got the wall wrong.

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Speaker 1: The judge trial court, judge.

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Speaker 2: But why why not just accept the fact? I mean

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Speaker 2: again again, I guess to each his own it. But

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Speaker 2: like you've been pardoned, you can, you're you're you're.

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Speaker 3: Clear, right? Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that no longer on his record? If you've been

734
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Speaker 2: you've been pardoned, like right, right, you weren't commuted, right,

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Speaker 2: you've been pardoned, So that's no longer on your record,

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Speaker 2: no longer a record.

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Speaker 1: No longility to apply for job somewhere, like carry you

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Speaker 1: can carry a firearm whatever you want to do. Right now?

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing can vote. You can vote vote, but

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Speaker 1: in Ohio, actually, convicted felons can vote in Ohio. After

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Speaker 1: you've done your time in prison or jail and you

742
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Speaker 1: get out, you have to reregister to vote. Sure, a

743
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Speaker 1: felony conviction, you lose your right to vote in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Once you've done your time, you can reregister to vote.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing on pg's appeal at the Supreme Court, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, they file these briefs saying, Court, here's the

747
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Speaker 1: important issues, here's the kind of what why we want

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Speaker 1: you to take this case. And the court, you know,

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Speaker 1: they get thousands of these every year, right, and they're

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Speaker 1: going through them, and they have a conference where they

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Speaker 1: kind of go through Okay, and I've no clue how

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Speaker 1: it happens. It's behind closed doors, but they decide from

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Speaker 1: that conferences, which eighty to ninety cases a year they're

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Speaker 1: going to take and accept a lot of time. These

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Speaker 1: things come into the conference and then the next day

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Speaker 1: or the next week and it's announced, we deny sircherri,

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Speaker 1: we deny to grant your appeal case over and done with.

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Speaker 1: When they grant the cercherarri, which is a legal term

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00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: for the court accepting the case that Layman's term, then

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Speaker 1: it proceeds and this whole new briefing. So you got

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Speaker 1: this initial brief and just saying court please take the case.

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Speaker 2: So what if the Supreme Court takes the case and

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Speaker 2: then they say, yeah, no, like you you did it,

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Speaker 2: and but that doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why the court really doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: get into these type of moot cases. Right, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: just giving you an advisory opinion, which is not the

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Speaker 1: role of our federal courts. We need to have real controversies.

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Speaker 1: Courts want real controversies between adverse parties, not theoretical questions.

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Speaker 1: And that's why the government's saying it's mood. But the

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Speaker 1: interesting thing is, so they've PG filed his brief, the

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Speaker 1: government filed its brief, and it's been before the court

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Speaker 1: to consider and they've had a conference. They've already had

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Speaker 1: a conference on it to review this. They've actually had

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Speaker 1: I'm looking now six conferences.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it keeps getting what we call relisted usually one conference,

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Speaker 1: maybe two conferences. Bam, were denying it. We're not going

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Speaker 1: to take the appeal six six. It's pretty abnormal, it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting there was one on February twentieth,

781
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Speaker 1: and it got relisted just last week, and then it

782
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Speaker 1: got relisted for a conference on February twenty seventh, Friday yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That was the sixth conference on this last on Friday.

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Speaker 1: So there's some dynamics going on internal to the court

785
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Speaker 1: about whether to take the case or not. So we'll

786
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Speaker 1: find out Monday or Tuesday court either accepted it or

787
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Speaker 1: they're going to relist it again for another conference down

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Speaker 1: the road, or you know. So, but it just seems

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Speaker 1: like it's been going on forever. Well, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: practice of law. I mean, I'm not going to break

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Speaker 1: a quick justice, but you know, it happens sometimes sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I've got a case going that

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Speaker 1: we filed in the spring of twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to trial here, I think in May or April,

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Speaker 1: May or June.

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Speaker 2: What's what's the longest in your kur heartman is with me,

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Speaker 2: by the way, look, public interest attorney, former Hamilton County

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Speaker 2: Common Police Court judge in your law practice in law,

799
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Speaker 2: a case you've had, what's the longest one has ever gone?

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Speaker 1: It's I've got two. I've got one both.

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Speaker 3: St you've been how long?

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Speaker 2: How many years you been a lawyer?

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Speaker 1: Since ninety four? Just over thirty years? Okay, Now you

804
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Speaker 1: should ask Chris Finny, who I work with a lot

805
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Speaker 1: from the Finny Law firm, who works a lot on

806
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Speaker 1: these type of cases. He's got a case. I'm not

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Speaker 1: involved in it. I think it's the longest case in

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Speaker 1: Hamilton County active case. It's been going off for about

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Speaker 1: seventeen years. Really, I'm not sure the facts or anything.

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Speaker 1: Preston give you that. Mostly I got this case I

811
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Speaker 1: was talking. It's against the Stark County Board of Elections

812
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: on an open meetings case there. We actually had a trial,

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Speaker 1: then we went up on appeal and went to the

814
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Speaker 1: Ohio Supreme Court and they ruled him our favor and

815
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Speaker 1: sent it back down. So we now got a new

816
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Speaker 1: trial coming up here. And that one's been going on

817
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Speaker 1: since twenty one, since twenty one. I got another case

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Speaker 1: I filed in October of nineteen nineteen October of twenty

819
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Speaker 1: twenty up in federal court up in Cleveland. Gone on

820
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: six years. Yeah, but this is a good political question

821
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Speaker 1: issue for you. It deals with ballot selfies.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, you know.

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Speaker 1: You take a picture. I am I'm voting. I want

824
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Speaker 1: to encourage people to vote. I felt go early. I

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Speaker 1: vote early, I fill out my ballot, and I take

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Speaker 1: a picture of me with my voted ballot.

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Speaker 2: Then you post it on and you post it online.

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Speaker 1: That is illegal in the state of Ohio. Not everywhere,

829
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Speaker 1: but in the state of Ohio, it is against state

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Speaker 1: law to do a ballot selfie, to post or otherwise

831
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Speaker 1: disseminate the picture of a voted ballot.

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Speaker 2: So are you fighting for the right to do it?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: It's the First Amendment issue. It's a free speech issue.

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Speaker 1: I may A lot of people do it. A lot

836
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Speaker 1: of people used to people do it. Yeah, So we

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Speaker 1: had we had that case up in Cleveland, filed in

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Speaker 1: in October of twenty twenty. Because it was right on

839
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Speaker 1: the evil of an election. We didn't go in and say, hey,

840
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Speaker 1: we want a preliminary injunction because courts, if you wait

841
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Speaker 1: till the last minute or on the even an election,

842
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: courts are not going to change the ground rules. It's

843
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: called a percel principle from a case and this makes sense.

844
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Speaker 1: You don't want change up and upset the apple call.

845
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Speaker 1: You could have brought it earlier. It wasn't one of

846
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Speaker 1: these last minute emergency things that wasn't out there before. Okay, fine,

847
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: so we did that and that went up on appeal

848
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Speaker 1: already once. Uh we did it. We did our discovery,

849
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: we did depositions, we did our motions, and the judge

850
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Speaker 1: ruled against us, saying your client doesn't have standing, she

851
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Speaker 1: hasn't suffered an injury. We we took it to the

852
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Speaker 1: Sixth Circuit. They reverse say, yeah, you have standing, go

853
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Speaker 1: back and to pick up where you left off. And

854
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Speaker 1: so now we're back at the trial court up in

855
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Speaker 1: Cleveland and waiting for the judge issue of final decision

856
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: for us or against us. That again may go back

857
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Speaker 1: up to the six Circus. So that's about the longest

858
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Speaker 1: one I've had, you know, but usually these cases, first

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Speaker 1: Amendment cases sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Could take you know, two years. Is would not be abnormal. Okay,

861
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Speaker 2: I love that case you have in the Stark County case.

862
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Speaker 2: It's literally over one signature. No, No, that's a different case.

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Speaker 2: That's a different That's the time I've got coming up here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got going up to a Star County Board

865
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Speaker 1: of Elections on an election protest on Tuesday where somebody

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Speaker 1: on their petition didn't have enough signature. Did they have

867
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Speaker 1: enough signatures? Did they not? The board said, ah, yeah,

868
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Speaker 1: that signature's close. We'll say you've got the fifty signatures

869
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Speaker 1: you need. Hey, you need fifty. You just made it.

870
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Speaker 1: We think the signature should not have been approved. So

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Speaker 1: I'm representing the other side trying to That's the one

872
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Speaker 1: got coming up. That's what I got coming up at

873
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Speaker 1: Star County to try to explain to them why the

874
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Speaker 1: law did not allow them to. If you will rehabilitate

875
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Speaker 1: that signature.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's amazing, Like you know, I mean, it's

877
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: importance of getting.

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Speaker 1: It is and you get it. You know, any time

879
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Speaker 1: you say you should get double the amount of sigma

880
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: that should you do, initiative referendums, whatever, you know, trying

881
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: to get stuff on the ballot, proposed charter amendments. You

882
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: never just get the minimum you want to get. Usually,

883
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: what we call it a validation rate. You expect maybe

884
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Speaker 1: seventy percent validation rate. Seventy percent of your signatures are good.

885
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: They're people who live in the district. It is their signature,

886
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: they are registered to vote. Usually get seventy percent. That's

887
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: a good number. But you always kind of calculate, Hey,

888
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Speaker 1: maybe fifty five to sixty percent, just to be on

889
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: the safe side. So I need fifty signatures. I'm getting

890
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Speaker 1: ninety to one hundred, one hundred and plus just to

891
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Speaker 1: make sure paranoid. I mean, you know, I've been doing

892
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Speaker 1: elections thirty plus years. I'm still paranoid with petitions and

893
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: my own petitions. Yeah, if I'm running for that office,

894
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Speaker 1: is the essentral committee for the political parties? I do

895
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: it right that I got everything filled out that that

896
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, is that for a congressional race, that is

897
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Speaker 1: for a congression on the fifty you don't have to

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Speaker 1: get fifty fifty for a congressional race, yes, is that we?

899
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Speaker 2: And then if you're you're running for county commissioner, it's

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Speaker 2: fifty uh twenty five. I believe I may be off.

901
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Speaker 2: I always find it funny because don't you have to

902
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Speaker 2: get like if you're running for like a city council,

903
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 2: you've got to get like fifteen hundred that's.

904
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Speaker 1: The city Cincinnati City charter. City councils.

905
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: Usually the funny that you can run for congress and

906
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: I think get fifty if you got to run for

907
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Speaker 2: city size city council.

908
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: That state wide, if you want to run for a

909
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: state wide office, it's a thousand signatures.

910
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: Even that's that's a lot.

911
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: That's a lot. But you know, if you've got a

912
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Speaker 1: decent organization political you know, we got eighty eight counties. Hey,

913
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I need one hundred signatures from each county. Guess what

914
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Speaker 1: you need ten signatures from each county. You're at nine

915
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: hundred signatures right there. Yeap, so, but you know, but again,

916
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Speaker 1: some counties you can get a lot. Cuyahoga, Hamilton, you

917
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Speaker 1: go to Vinton County with I think eight thousand people.

918
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Speaker 2: If you run for state, why do you have to

919
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: get a signature from every county?

920
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: Oh?

921
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: Okay, No, No, state wide. If you want to do

922
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: an initiative or a referendum statewide, you've got to get

923
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: so many signatures from forty four counties to half the counties.

924
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: But to just run for office, there is no geographic

925
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Speaker 1: distribution on where you obtain your signatures from.

926
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Speaker 2: Is there a we got about another minute. Is there

927
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: any any race this year in state or local race

928
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Speaker 2: that's really you're really really into?

929
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the one is in the Republican primary for

930
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Secretary of State. You know the Republican Party. Republicans historically

931
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: at the state level love playing this game of musical chairs. Okay,

932
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Speaker 1: I'm attorning general. I'm running for governor on Roberts Sprague

933
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Speaker 1: is the treasure now. Now he's running right, and there's

934
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Speaker 1: a state there's the tired Air Force Lieutenant Carl Marcel

935
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Speaker 1: Striviik out of Montgomery County, very involved in terms of

936
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Speaker 1: election reform, election accountability running. I'm supporting Marcel just in

937
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Speaker 1: just the full disclosure and so. But Marcel has been

938
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Speaker 1: doing a great ground game, great grassroots getting out there.

939
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Speaker 1: He got the endorsement, uh, I know of Warren County.

940
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not sure if you got Butler Counties endorsement,

941
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Speaker 1: but he got Warren Counties endorsement against Sprague. Delaware County

942
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Speaker 1: endorsed them, and there were a few other across the state.

943
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Speaker 1: So but you know, it's that heartbeat, you know. But

944
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: the problem is that Republicans polarity is doing endorsements. They're

945
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: endorsing the usual suspects, of course, and doing it all

946
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Speaker 1: behind closed doors. They had the meeting last week. We're

947
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Speaker 1: going to go in executive session. Media out, everybody out.

948
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Speaker 1: We're just going to do all this behind closed door,

949
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: which is the way our party chairman has always done things,

950
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: and it.

951
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: Allows for matter who the party chairman is.

952
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure historical that I'm talking about alec On,

953
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: former Hamilton Countage you know, but the boy it does.

954
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: You do it behind closed doors. It allows people to

955
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: character assatis and people, and there's no way to defend it.

956
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: It's not a professional way to do it. And it's

957
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: whose party is it? Is it the party elites in

958
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: Columbus or is it the rank and file? I believe

959
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: it's a rank and file. Great question, Hurt.

960
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 9: That was fast.

961
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: It was fast and went too fast. There's never enough

962
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: time you and I doing this political fireside chat.

963
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: You gonna do a twenty four hour one sometime.

964
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll have me for twenty four

965
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: hours on WW but anyway, Hurt Hartman, local public interest attorney,

966
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: former Hamilton County judge, knows the stuff. Always always get

967
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: good feedback when you're on, So thanks for joining me here.

968
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: Great to be with you all gets to a break

969
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: you on news Radio seven on WLW easton Williams rolling along.

970
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: I just got back from spring training late last night.

971
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: From my role this inquire, a sports columnist spent spent

972
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: the week out of spring training delightful, delightful week, had

973
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 2: a great uh you know, great catching up with everyone

974
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: in the Reds and uh including this guy, my long

975
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: long time friend. We've known each other for gosh, dog

976
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: twenty two years something like that. Mark Sheldon from MLB

977
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: dot com. My good friend. We hope yours.

978
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: Good man.

979
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Speaker 1: How are you doing?

980
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: Great night.

981
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 10: I'm sitting in the parking lot of a familiar place

982
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Speaker 10: for you. It's Ronald Teresa's Oh and uh, hopefully it's

983
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 10: a it's a good fair before I take a couple.

984
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: Of days off.

985
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 2: I heard you recommend that to Tito the other day.

986
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: I did. Yeah, that's a good spot man. It's uh,

987
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: you know, it's got everything you need.

988
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 7: Uh.

989
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: Mark Sheldon from MLB dot com joins us here and

990
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: uh and Mark, uh, let's let's get to the news

991
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: of the day. Uh. Hunter Green his first spring outing.

992
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: Uh not pretty uh for him. But you your story.

993
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: The headline of your story says that he you know,

994
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: he talked afterward, despite the fact that he only you know.

995
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: He goes one inning, gives up five hits, four runs,

996
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: walk to batter. He said, he felt fine, and he

997
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: feels strong. And what what what did you make of

998
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: of of the of his debut.

999
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't pretty.

1000
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 10: I mean he faced five batters and through twenty two

1001
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 10: pitches and didn't get an out in the first inning.

1002
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: Uh, they were able under the rules of spring training.

1003
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 10: You can take him out and bring him back in

1004
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 10: for the second inning, which went a little bit better.

1005
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 10: In that first inning, he was getting clobberd though. The

1006
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 10: first spatter hit south Relick hit a ball off the

1007
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 10: center field wall for a triple, then a wild pitch

1008
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 10: for a run score, and then four more hits.

1009
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 3: And you know, the.

1010
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 10: Good news, I guess is none of this counts in

1011
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 10: the statistics and it doesn't mean anything in the big picture.

1012
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 10: As Tito Francona said, Uh, the one is gonna remember

1013
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 10: this down the road. So obviously you want to see

1014
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 10: better in the in the regular season. And and for him,

1015
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 10: he he felt good. The ball was coming out of

1016
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 10: his hands. Okay, he was not really using all of

1017
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 10: his pitches, but his his four seam fastball was touching

1018
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 10: one hundred, averaging almost one hundred, and uh, you know

1019
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 10: that's the one and then we'll see what happened to

1020
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 10: the next one.

1021
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: And then uh so now we're probably getting into a

1022
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: run now of what Abbott Lodolo, some of the some

1023
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: of the and singers, some of the more frontliner guys.

1024
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: And we see you know, when I was there, we

1025
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: saw Chase Burns, saw Rhet Louder yesterday. Uh, both those

1026
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: guys pitched pretty well. Uh, and that now you're going

1027
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: to see some of the some of the guys that

1028
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: are kind of more of established, right.

1029
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, it seemed like for some of the more established guys,

1030
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 10: they were doing their early maybe what would be the

1031
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 10: equivalent of the early start of the live VP, kind

1032
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 10: of a simulated thing and kind of rolling easy into.

1033
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: The into the Cactus League schedule. Uh.

1034
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 10: This was obviously Green's first start, but it was I

1035
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 10: think five games into the or maybe seven games into

1036
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 10: the spring schedule. But uh, everyone seems to be looking good.

1037
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 10: There hasn't been any red flags that I've seen. Rhet

1038
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 10: Lauder was certainly very good. He uh, to me kind

1039
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 10: of emerges as the leader of the of the pack

1040
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 10: in terms of that competition for the fifth spot. The

1041
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 10: way he looked and the way he was getting praised

1042
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 10: by Francona. It just sort of seemed like he fits

1043
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 10: very well into that that spot with the ability to

1044
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 10: locate and work efficiently. That's a bullpen helper. But Chase

1045
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 10: Burns is by no means out of it. We'll still

1046
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 10: see what happens with Williamson and agy Are, but yeah,

1047
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 10: the rotations look in good hands right now.

1048
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: It seems like.

1049
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: Talking with Mark shelmreilb dot com and covering the Reds.

1050
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: Goodness smart we were talking the other day. You've been

1051
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: with maybe with twenty five years with MLB dot com. Uh,

1052
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: the first part of that with uh covering the twins.

1053
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: But this is your what is this your twentiest twenty

1054
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Speaker 2: one on the red and I've got there at No.

1055
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Speaker 2: Six the Dean you're the dean man, You're the Dean

1056
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Speaker 2: of the beat writing Corps.

1057
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Speaker 10: I don't know about that, but that's some years under me.

1058
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: Uh, let's stay with the rotation there. Do you think

1059
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 2: that that fifth spot, I mean you said Louder looks

1060
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: like he has the uh you know, kind of the

1061
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: edge right now. Do you think that's gonna go down

1062
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: to the to the wire of spring training or do

1063
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: you think, yeah, they've got a pretty good idea, right, well,

1064
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: you you alluded to it there, But how do you

1065
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: see that going is Is it a wide open competition

1066
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: or is it like you know, Louder is the guy

1067
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: and let's just let's see how it plays out.

1068
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: I think it's still wide open.

1069
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 10: I think you can't because number one, if something happens

1070
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 10: to one of the other guys, uh, you know, there's

1071
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 10: always a chance that somebody else could start it happens.

1072
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 10: We've seen it here many a time where opening day

1073
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 10: starters get get hurt before the last spring game and

1074
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 10: somebody else has to come in, which means a new

1075
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 10: person has to join the rotation. So there's I wouldn't

1076
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Speaker 10: I wouldn't go so far as to say Lauder has

1077
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Speaker 10: the job because he doesn't. But and Burns still pitch

1078
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 10: pretty well. He's got some things to work on, but

1079
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 10: he's he runs into deeper counts and the way he pitches,

1080
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 10: he got really two very very good pitches. But he

1081
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 10: can use a lot of them in the early going

1082
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 10: and maybe fall behind sometimes. But I you know, it's

1083
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 10: still spring, it's so early to put too much on anybody.

1084
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 10: But I would say, uh, Louder and Burns seem to

1085
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 10: be the two front runners, and I haven't seen Williams

1086
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 10: didn't except for he pitched once in relief, but I

1087
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 10: wasn't able to watch because we were waiting for the

1088
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 10: starting pitcher to come out and get quotes.

1089
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 3: So uh at Aggyart looked too good yesterday.

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00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 10: He got hit hard with a home run that left

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00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 10: the par completely after Louder left the game, So we'll

1092
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 10: see what happens. I think there's still chances for all

1093
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 10: four guys to make a mark, and and really, honestly,

1094
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 10: there's good up a good possibility all eight pitchers in

1095
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 10: the mix, plus Jase Petty could be utilized at some

1096
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 10: point during the season because very rarely do you go

1097
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 10: all season with all of your five starters. That happened

1098
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 10: last time in Cincinnati is twenty twelve.

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00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: Well, and in the fact that we're sitting here and

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: this is what we're talking about, it seems like the Reds,

1101
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: probably pitching wise, are in pretty good position if things

1102
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: continue to go the way they're going, everyone stays healthy

1103
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: that you know you're looking at you know you've got

1104
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: a choice for that fifth spot, and then you've got

1105
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: guys behind that and I'll tell you. You know, Brandon Williamson,

1106
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: he was he came in the Castillo trade.

1107
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: Is that?

1108
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1109
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: Or was he in the.

1110
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 10: I believe I get confused. I think he was in

1111
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 10: the Suarez trade. But uh, I get confused sometimes I

1112
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 10: can't remember because there was a lot of trades with Seattle.

1113
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 10: But yeah, right, yeah, he did come in twenty twenty two,

1114
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 10: and he debuted in twenty twenty three. And he's a

1115
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 10: he's a picture. They really like a lot. He's got

1116
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 10: some good stuff and I would not discount him as

1117
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 10: of being a factor and a lot of the stretch

1118
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 10: of spring training and a lefty. I mean, can you

1119
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 10: imagine the Reds rotation with three lefties? It would be uh,

1120
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 10: it would be interesting, you know, with Abbott, Lodolo and

1121
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 10: and Williamson.

1122
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, thinking about you having grown

1123
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: up following the Reds and for so many, so many

1124
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: years decades, the Reds, Oh, they don't have pitching, they

1125
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: don't have pitching. And you know, a guy like Mario

1126
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: Soto always stood out because he was one of the

1127
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: few really good pitchers they had back in back in

1128
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: the eighties or you know, and to see now like, oh,

1129
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: you know, the potential of three left handers and all

1130
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: of them good, and the fact that they have a

1131
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: you know, top to bottom rotation was still even more

1132
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: depth behind that is still it's still kind of hard

1133
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: to get used to. I think probably for probably those

1134
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: long time Cincinnati Reds fans to think like, wow, they

1135
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: finally actually have pitching.

1136
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

1137
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 10: I think there's been times over the years I've covered

1138
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 10: this team where sometimes the starters were picked because they

1139
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 10: were there and not so much because they earned it.

1140
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 10: You know, you don't want to see a guy win

1141
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 10: a job by default. And it's happened over the years

1142
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 10: of times. It hasn't happened a lot in the last

1143
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 10: few years, but it does happen. And uh, that's that's

1144
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 10: not a good sign when you know the five starters

1145
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 10: are there because that there was no one else, and

1146
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 10: then this time they have they have deep competition.

1147
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: He he had a great you had a really fun piece.

1148
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: And and this to me is I think you know

1149
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: you when you were writing pieces like this, Mark. It

1150
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: seems like spring training's going pretty well and there's probably

1151
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: not a lot of news, and certainly this is knockland

1152
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: Wood the Reds have been uh you know, there's not

1153
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: been a lot, there's been no drama, and there's been

1154
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: uh you know, really no no major injuries, right that

1155
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: I can think of.

1156
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, Blake Dunn got hit by a pitch today,

1157
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 10: but they just he's gonna put ice on and he's fine.

1158
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: So no no major injuries.

1159
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you had a fun piece. I believe you

1160
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: posted this today, how how a basketball hoop, gorilla suit,

1161
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: and silly strang are bonding the Reds And you know,

1162
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm glad you did this.

1163
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: Guy.

1164
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw this what the other day, you know,

1165
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: and it's been written about that the Reds for several

1166
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: years now. I've had that basketball hoop at their player

1167
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: development complex there in Arizona. But they've added a new

1168
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: twist to it this year. Tell us about that.

1169
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, they a few years under the David Bell administration,

1170
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 10: they put a hoop in. They did a three point competition,

1171
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 10: maybe in twenty twenty four, possibly twenty twenty three, and

1172
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 10: it was pretty successful and I think Will Myers won

1173
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 10: it that year and then. But you know, the hoop

1174
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 10: is always one of those things guys gravitate towards it

1175
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 10: and just take shots before they go out and stretch

1176
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 10: and hit the fields for their workouts.

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00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: It's kind of a fun way to blow off some steam.

1178
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 10: Well last year they also in the last couple of

1179
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 10: years they had Redscot Talent, which was their way of

1180
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 10: kind of bonding and doing in the clubhouse, like a

1181
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 10: talent shot competition. Well, this year they decided to do

1182
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 10: a bracketed free throw challenge and it's very elaborate. They

1183
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 10: have brackets one on one, one guy versus another guy.

1184
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 10: They get three shots, and whoever does the best they advance,

1185
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 10: and if they tie, they do tiebreakers. And it's all

1186
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 10: seems to be led by Jose Travino, who has the whistle,

1187
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 10: who has the bracket board, who announces who's coming in

1188
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 10: and if they're not there in time, and they're they're

1189
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 10: counted out, they're they're done and the other guy wins.

1190
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 10: But it's been pretty funny the guys. Will You hear

1191
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 10: a lot of hooting and hollering because there's some loose

1192
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 10: rules as far as you can distract guys and you

1193
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 10: can get in their face and you can make noise.

1194
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 10: And South Stewart I tried to put this in the story,

1195
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 10: but South Stewart was like spiking a basketball right near

1196
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 10: the guy he was shooting against and being goofy and wearing.

1197
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: Wearing a Dwayne Wade heat jersey.

1198
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 10: And then a couple of days ago, Leo Balcazar, who

1199
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 10: is a infield prospect, he had on a gorilla suit

1200
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 10: and somehow made his shots and defeated Hunter Green, and

1201
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 10: it was it was pretty funny seeing that video of

1202
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 10: him running around the court with his gorilla suit on.

1203
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: And what about the silly string? Is that another thing

1204
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: that they can use to distract us.

1205
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, Spencer's year had silly string and an airhorn to

1206
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 10: distract Matt McClain, and you know, just little silly stuff

1207
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 10: like that.

1208
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1209
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 10: I know fans like you know, they should be all

1210
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 10: business and they should be doing everything.

1211
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: But it's nice to.

1212
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 10: Have, I think for teammates, especially guys that are spending

1213
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 10: you know, one hundred and eighty days of a baseball

1214
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 10: season together when they get into it, you need some

1215
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 10: things like that to bond guys and see, you know,

1216
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 10: some personalities. And it's what's good about what the Reds

1217
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 10: do is it's not just limited.

1218
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: To the players.

1219
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 10: The coaches are involved, the staff members, that are, you know,

1220
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 10: the behind the scenes people, they're all involved too, So

1221
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 10: it's it's just it's just a good fun, team building thing.

1222
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: And well last year they had the Reds Got Talent competition,

1223
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: but now that Brent Souter's gone, Tito says that's out.

1224
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's not that he. I don't think it's

1225
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: really up to Tito. It's more up to the players.

1226
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 10: I guess for whatever reason, they just decided, someone decided

1227
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 10: that they wanted to.

1228
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: Do something different.

1229
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 10: And Jose Travino seems to be heading up the brackets

1230
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 10: of the free throw competition. But this is really all

1231
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 10: player driven, and you know, Tito participated.

1232
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 3: He made his shots today. So uh, one one.

1233
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: More thing I want to ask you about back to

1234
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: back of business.

1235
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Speaker 7: Uh.

1236
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: Mark Sheldon from MLB dot Com is twenty first season

1237
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: covering the Reds, Which that's awesome, man. I remember when

1238
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: you and I, you and I were covering baseball in

1239
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: Minnesota together and you got the got the call to

1240
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: go to the Reds and that was awesome because yeah,

1241
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: you went, you went to your UC guy. And uh,

1242
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: obviously I had lived here and uh worked worked in

1243
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: local TV here for years and so that was that

1244
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: was awesome for you to come come here and uh

1245
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: the first base situation, Uh you wrote about South Stewarts

1246
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: and uh, how do you see that? And I meant

1247
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: to ask you and I you did for our listener purposes.

1248
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: You and I are close friends, and we had lunch

1249
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: together and we had dinner together, and we didn't We

1250
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: don't usually talk about the team, but I want to like,

1251
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: where where How do you see the first base position

1252
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: playing out?

1253
01:01:59,360 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: Is it?

1254
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: Is it going to be set when it's all said

1255
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: and done. Is South Stuart going to be the everyday

1256
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: guy there? Is it going to be a mix of

1257
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: him and Spencer Steer who was a gold Glove finalist

1258
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: there last year? Surprisingly, how do you see that plan

1259
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: out there?

1260
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 10: I think certainly Stuart's gonna have to go all the

1261
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 10: way to the end of camp, but I think his

1262
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 10: chances are looking pretty good. I haven't seen anything that

1263
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 10: says is a red flag that he's not hitting well.

1264
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 10: I mean, he's been hitting and he's doing the work.

1265
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 10: I mean, he can't complain about the fact that he's

1266
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 10: out every day or most days with Mike Napoli and

1267
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 10: other coaches doing all the technique work and trying to

1268
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 10: be a better first baseman.

1269
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: He was thrown kind of into.

1270
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 10: The fire and learned on the job in the big leagues,

1271
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 10: which is no easy feats. Normally a third baseman coming up,

1272
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 10: and he played some second base. But I think what

1273
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 10: the plan is a lot of guys that are on

1274
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 10: the field that are regulars are going to be multi positional,

1275
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 10: so they can have flexibility. So you might see South

1276
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 10: Stewart quote unquote as the regular first baseman, but he

1277
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 10: could also be the second baseman, also get some time

1278
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 10: at third base. And I what I kind of envision

1279
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 10: happening is Stuart will probably start games at first base

1280
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 10: and either move because the game dictates it, or Spencer Steer,

1281
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 10: because he's a gold Glover, will likely go from whatever

1282
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 10: position he is to first base for the end of

1283
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 10: a game on defense.

1284
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: And I think that's that's.

1285
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 10: A move they could do until they feel more comfortable

1286
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 10: with Stuart. If you have a one run game and

1287
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 10: you're in the ninth inning, you probably want your best

1288
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 10: defense out there if you can. And certainly Spencer Steer

1289
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 10: has no trouble catching the ball and picking it and

1290
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 10: all those other things. So we'll see what happens, Suarez

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Speaker 10: is gonna be getting some time there. He has very

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Speaker 10: little experience at first base. We'll see how much he

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01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 10: actually gets to play there during the season, and he's

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01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 10: gonna probably be more of a DH certainly key Brian

1295
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 10: Hayes is in the third base, and you know McClain

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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 10: can move to short stuff when Nellie did La Cruz

1297
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 10: needs the day off. So there's a lot of maneuverability

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 10: that Francona has if he needs it. But I think

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01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 10: Stuart looks pretty good as the first basement at the moment,

1300
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 10: but still three weeks left.

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Speaker 2: And you know a good example of that too. I

1302
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: mean you you know, I was there, you know the TJ.

1303
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: Friedel got to start and left a couple of days ago,

1304
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: and Francona said, you know, he's going to play three

1305
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: or four games there just in case, just in case

1306
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: things shake out injury wise or something happens. And you know, uh, Dane,

1307
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: Dane Meyers is yeah, you know, he's a good center fielder.

1308
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: So you know, really, gone are the days where you just,

1309
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: you know, you park a guy and he's your everyday

1310
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: first base you know, you just it's almost like a

1311
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: template of the lineup like those days are gone.

1312
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Speaker 3: Right pretty much.

1313
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Speaker 10: I mean, for the most part, catchers are the catchers,

1314
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 10: and you don't see them moving around too much. But yeah,

1315
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 10: and Elie da la Cruz has been playing solely at

1316
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 10: short stuff, but I don't see him moving. I know

1317
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 10: people have talked about moving into the outfield, but that's

1318
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 10: probably not that's definitely not happening this year. And so yeah,

1319
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 10: other than those two positions, I could see moving around

1320
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 10: pretty much anywhere else. I could see no Elie Marte

1321
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 10: playing some center feld and right field. I can see

1322
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 10: Freedom playing center field and left field. Dan Myers will

1323
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 10: play all over the outfield, Spencer Steel will play left

1324
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 10: and right field, second base and first base, McClain at

1325
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 10: second base and shortstop. So there's in Suarez at third base,

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01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 10: first base in d H.

1327
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: So there's a.

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 10: Lot of guys that can move around. And and I

1329
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 10: think you're gonna see Francona use more of his you know,

1330
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 10: his bench when he feels like he needs to to

1331
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 10: get guys in for matchups and things like that, and

1332
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 10: and then accordingly move guys around.

1333
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: Last question, I'm surprising you with this. I apologize to

1334
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: you up front. I think you can handle it, okay,

1335
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: if I if I am, if I'm, if I'm a

1336
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: Reds fan, I'm from Cincinnati, I've never been to spring

1337
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: training before someone asks you, Okay, what absolute restaurant do

1338
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: I have to go to?

1339
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 11: Uh?

1340
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: If I'm if I go to if I go to

1341
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: spring training to catch a Reds game or games, where

1342
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: are you telling him?

1343
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 3: That's a that's a tough one. That's a real tough one.

1344
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 10: I guess I would say Robalood Teresa is only because

1345
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 10: it's kind of a it's close to the park. You

1346
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 10: can get there in less than ten minutes from the ballpark,

1347
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 10: and it's it is kind of more of an Arizona

1348
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 10: experience and you can't get in Cincinnati. We I'll be

1349
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 10: honest with you, and I'm sure people will correct me

1350
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 10: via the falling. I don't think there's a lot of

1351
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 10: really great Mexican restaurants in Cincinnati. There's there are some,

1352
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 10: of course, but I think getting authentic Mexican food is a.

1353
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: Treat out here.

1354
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 10: And of course I always I'll always pine for in

1355
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 10: and Out Burger because we don't have that in Cincinnati either.

1356
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 3: But that's that's more like for lunchtime you.

1357
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 10: Know, and there's some some really great restaurants in Phoenix itself.

1358
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 10: And Phoenix is a sneaky good pizza town. There's lots

1359
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 10: of pizza places of all sorts, both New York style,

1360
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 10: Chicago style, and like the fancy gourmet wood fire style.

1361
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,479
Speaker 10: So there's there's a lot of good stuff here.

1362
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: Disappointing, didn't you didn't say Philiberto's. I've heard that's a

1363
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: great place.

1364
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 10: You and Gordon can have Philibertos and I'll I'll go

1365
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 10: somewhere else, but you guys enjoy it being polite.

1366
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: Raul Teresa is a good one. And it's also in

1367
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: a it's almost like you look at it from the

1368
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: outside and the area that it's in, you're like you're

1369
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: kind of in an old Western uh setting there. And

1370
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's not like that they've intentionally done that,

1371
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: but you're kind of like you're like I'm in an

1372
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: old Western movie here. Uh. Sort of has those vibes

1373
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: to it too. Is in addition to just incredible authentic

1374
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: Mexican food, so.

1375
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 10: Yep, as the interior designers will say, it has a

1376
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 10: little patina in it and a little character.

1377
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 3: So it's it's pretty good.

1378
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: There we go, good stuff, my friend, we go.

1379
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 3: Enjoy your rould.

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Speaker 2: Teresa is my friend. Yes, sir, have a good night,

1381
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: you too. Man see you Mark shouting everyone good stuff

1382
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: from him. Make sure you can't check out his uh

1383
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: his coverage on MLB dot com and uh you can

1384
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: find them on all your social media platforms as well.

1385
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's you know, I want to do this.

1386
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: I talk to a Davis this week. Uh he spoke

1387
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: to the reds.

1388
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1389
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: Terry Francona had him speak uh to the team and

1390
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: the and the theme was what does it mean to

1391
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: be a Red? So from my my column this as

1392
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: a column I went up to after Tito told us

1393
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: that I went up to Eric Davis and I talked

1394
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: to him and I got admitt to you. I don't

1395
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: usually get caught up when I interview people. I've been

1396
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: a political writer, I've been sports, right, I've been a

1397
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: business writer. I've done radio and you know, newspaper. I

1398
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: don't get caught up. But man, Eric Davis is on

1399
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: my Mount rushmore of my favorite athletes growing up. I

1400
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: had his poster on the wall and there he said

1401
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: a few things talking about that nineteen ninety World series team,

1402
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: and I got Google, I got admit to you. Interviewing him,

1403
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: I got goosebumps. I told him I'm always straight up

1404
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: with people. I told him. I was like, oh man,

1405
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 2: you gave me goosebumps on that. But then I was

1406
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: talking with Jamie Ramsey's one of the Reds media relations guys,

1407
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: the next day. He's like, you know, I saw your column, man,

1408
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: you know so and what people don't understand from our era,

1409
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: you know, kids of the eighties like Eric Davis was

1410
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: the guy.

1411
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 3: So made me.

1412
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: It made me think, like, I know this sounds simple,

1413
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 2: but it made me think, man, who is my all

1414
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: time favorite Red? And Eric Davis was that guy. And

1415
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of great players to choose from. So

1416
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you who's your all time favorite

1417
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: Red and why we'll take your calls after After the

1418
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: Break five one, three, seven, four, nine hundred, The Big

1419
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: One News Radio, seven hundred WLW Steel bases. He could

1420
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: hit for power, he could hit for average, he could

1421
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: drive in runs. Uh yeah, he could pretty much bat

1422
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: anywhere in the lineup. He could you know, he was

1423
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: a center fielder. He was you know, he could make

1424
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: incredible plays.

1425
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 3: Uh.

1426
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: He could throw. He could throw the ball. You know,

1427
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: he could you know, you know, throw the ball, you know,

1428
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: from centerfield to home plate and get guys out. He

1429
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: he he was one of the all time great Reds players.

1430
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: He was on his way to probably having a Hall

1431
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: of Fame career except for all the injuries, and I

1432
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: it was it's amazing the fact that the guy still

1433
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: was able to play seventeen seasons, but so many of

1434
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: those seasons were cut short. But the most he ever

1435
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: played in a season was one hundred and thirty two games.

1436
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: But pretty good, you know, one hundred and sixty two,

1437
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: But you know, so many seasons where yeah, he didn't

1438
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: even even make it to one hundred games. In what

1439
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: ninety ninety two he played seventy six games, ninety one,

1440
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: only eighty nine. In ninety seven he only played forty

1441
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: two games. He was getting up there then. But this guy,

1442
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: he was the guy. And so I'm thinking, as I'm

1443
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: talking to Jamie Ramsey, it just just reconnected me to

1444
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: my childhood and like the player that I love the most,

1445
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 2: and it was Eric David, my my all time favorite

1446
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: Cincinnati read Eric Davis. And it made me think, I

1447
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: want to ask you who's your all time favorite Red

1448
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: Who's whose poster did you have in your wall? Who's

1449
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: baseball cards did you have the most of Who's Uh?

1450
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: You know, whose stance did you emulate? Five one three,

1451
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: seven four nine seven eight hundred The Big One? Five one, three, seven,

1452
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: four nine seven thousand, eight hundred, the Big One. But

1453
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: Eric Davis seventeen seasons, uh in the big leagues. It's

1454
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: it's kind of funny, I like, a is there's I

1455
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: remember he played for Baltimore. I don't remember. He played

1456
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: nine seasons for the Reds over two stints, eight to

1457
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 2: start his career as an eighth round draft pick of

1458
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: the Reds out of Fremont High School in Los Angeles,

1459
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: uh in nineteen eighty. H comes up with the Reds

1460
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: in eighty four as a twenty two year old, a

1461
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: lot like Elie de la Cruz uh and then goes

1462
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,879
Speaker 2: on and he ends up he played for his hometown

1463
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: Dodgers for a season. I never realized he'd become that

1464
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 2: much of a kind of a journeyman player after he

1465
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 2: left Cincinnati. So he goes to LA for two seasons

1466
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 2: or parts of you two one and a half seasons.

1467
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: Then he goes to Detroit. I don't remember him as

1468
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: as a Tiger in ninety three ninety four, and he

1469
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: comes back to the Reds first season in ninety six,

1470
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: then goes in ninety seven to Baltimore. Ninety eight's in Baltimore.

1471
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: I don't if this were on a trivia thing, I

1472
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: would have gotten this wrong. I don't remember Eric Davis

1473
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: playing for the Cardinals, but he played two seasons with

1474
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,919
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Nineteen ninety nine he played fifty eight games,

1475
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: and in two thousand he played ninety eight games. And

1476
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: finished his career with the San Francisco Giants in two

1477
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 2: thousand and one. But Eric Davis sixty three years old. Man,

1478
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: he still looks great. Had a great interview with him

1479
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: the other day. He's still just that confident guy. I

1480
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: did ask him about what his expectations are for the

1481
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: Reds and he's like, my expectations don't matter. I can't

1482
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: want it more than those guys want it. I thought

1483
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: that was great.

1484
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1485
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: I think about that when I coach two youth baseball teams,

1486
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: and there are times I have to catch myself. I'm like,

1487
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, maybe I want this more than they

1488
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: want it. And that it doesn't matter what I want

1489
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: because it's their team. And that was really what Eric

1490
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: Davis was saying. And you know, I also said, does

1491
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: this team remind you of any of any you know,

1492
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: Reds teams that you were on, thinking maybe he might say, oh,

1493
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: you know, there's some elements in nineties like I don't

1494
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: compare teams, I don't compare past teams or anything like that.

1495
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: So I thought, a great chat with Eric Davis, and

1496
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: it's great to see him around the complex, and I know,

1497
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: you know, he's such a huge asset to the Reds

1498
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: and it's great to see Eric Davis continuing on in

1499
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 2: since I read's organization my all time favorite Red, let's

1500
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: go to Kevin and Columbus who wants to share with

1501
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: his his all time favorite Red.

1502
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 8: Hey Kevin, Well, first of all, I want to support that.

1503
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 8: At the time, back say nineteen ninety ninety one, I

1504
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 8: thought he.

1505
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: Was going to be an all time yep, great, you know, yep.

1506
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 8: Sadly it didn't work out injuries or whatever, but he

1507
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 8: was moor and on his way.

1508
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he still played seventeen seasons.

1509
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 9: Really, but Kevin, but you already touched on that.

1510
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just wow. And but I like him.

1511
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 8: I liked Brandon Phillips, Yeah, and he ultimate. I'll give

1512
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 8: you two Bronson Arroyo, who the guys were steady player,

1513
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 8: They loved the game, and they were great interviews on

1514
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 8: the radio and stuff.

1515
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 6: Yep.

1516
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 8: I wish they'd bring back on this radio that that

1517
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 8: segment where Segaby at the Botto mark when they played

1518
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 8: at home.

1519
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: Well, the segment where seg would go down the dugout.

1520
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was the ballpark talking to Hi whoever is

1521
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 8: willing to get interviewed live. I guess players don't want

1522
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 8: to do that anymore. All they got to do is

1523
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 8: say one offhand wrong thing and they're fired or so,

1524
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 8: you know, that's a sad thing, you.

1525
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: Know, Brandon, are two good ones, man, two good ones.

1526
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: And thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks Brandon Phillips, Bronson and Royo.

1527
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to your favorite red and and and you know, right,

1528
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: who's that one guy that comes to mind? And and

1529
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: then this comes to my mind as I'm interviewing Eric Davis,

1530
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 2: my all time favorite read Eric Davis, Eric the Red

1531
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 2: five one, three seven, four nine, the Big One. Let

1532
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: me know, why do you have his poster on the wall.

1533
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: Did you try to emulate his stance?

1534
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 8: Did?

1535
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: Did you?

1536
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 10: Just?

1537
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: Was there something about him that really, you know, you're

1538
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: just you. You love that guy because you saw him,

1539
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: You saw him somewhere and he was nice to you

1540
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,560
Speaker 2: and your kids or something. Judy and Clifton wants the

1541
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: way on her favorite Red.

1542
01:15:55,680 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 4: Hey Judy, Hi, Hi, My favorite Red was Bronson Arroyo.

1543
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 4: Love it because he played the guitar.

1544
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: Did you did you do you remember? Did you did

1545
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 2: you like how he played the guitar or just the

1546
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 2: fact that he played the guitar?

1547
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 4: Well, the only time I saw him played the guitar

1548
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 4: was on a Komucal JTM.

1549
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: That that was? That was an all time great commercial,

1550
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: wasn't it? And there's been some good ones, yeah, between

1551
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: radio and TV and over the years. On Judio, I'm

1552
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 2: sure you've been a Reds fan for many, many, many

1553
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: years and you think back to some of those Marty

1554
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 2: and Joe commercials for Kroger. Uh. But that that uh,

1555
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: that Chris Welsh Bronson Arroyo JTM commercial that certainly was

1556
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: an all timer And you know, I think it fit

1557
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 2: Bronson Arroyo's personality to a t I'm sure he was

1558
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: getting paid to endorse the product, but I also feel

1559
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: like that helped himdear him to Cincinnati Reds fans. You are, Judy,

1560
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 2: You're the second well Kevin earlier said Bronson Royal. But

1561
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: I was interviewing someone this week when I was out

1562
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: in Arizona and they brought up Bronson Arroyo and I

1563
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: got it. I'd have to go back over my notes,

1564
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: but this is now Bronson Royal being mentioned three times

1565
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: this week. Judy, thank you so much. Let's let's jump

1566
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: around here and get to Let's go to Charlie. Oh,

1567
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: this is a good one. Charlie and Wilmington, Eddie Milan.

1568
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 12: My favorite was Eddie Milner. And reason being my grandmother

1569
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 12: was in the hospital and Columbus and Mount Carmel West

1570
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 12: at the time, and her nurse was Eddie Milner's aunt.

1571
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 12: And I was a big baseball I was ten years old,

1572
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 12: and I remember my grandma and her was talk baseball.

1573
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 12: Was my grandma was a big baseball fan. And she's said, hey,

1574
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 12: I want you to meet somebody. And I met her

1575
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 12: and she said, I'll tell you what. In the off season,

1576
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 12: all having him send you an autograph and he wrote

1577
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 12: me a personal note. And I'm fifty two years old

1578
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 12: today and I still have that note from nineteen eighty three.

1579
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 12: He signed it and wrote a personal note to me,

1580
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 12: and I still have that.

1581
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 3: So that was my favorite player.

1582
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: And he he was I remember him from the eighties.

1583
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: He was in that on those early eighties teams and

1584
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 2: then was with the Reds. Right, I'm looking up now,

1585
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 2: but he was with the Reds from the eight because

1586
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: he was I went to my first Reds game in

1587
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 2: eighty six and he was on the team, and that

1588
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: was happened to be his last. Well, he was with

1589
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: the Reds from eighty to eighty six and then he

1590
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 2: went over to San Francisco for a year, came back

1591
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 2: finished his career. But that guy was also you felt

1592
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: like that he was destined for greatness. And unfortunately he

1593
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: died early, died at age sixty. And I had heard

1594
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 2: a Columbus, Ohio guy. Reynoldsburg also a home of Mike

1595
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: Metheene where Mike Methani grew up. Or sorry, I'm not

1596
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,879
Speaker 2: he was from Columbus, right, Eddie Millner was from Columbus.

1597
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: I see that he was buried in Reynaldsburg, but I

1598
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: don't know if he was actually from Realmsburg, but certainly

1599
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,839
Speaker 2: the Columbus area. Unfortunately died and died in twenty fifteen.

1600
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: Died in twenty fifteen at age sixteen. I know he

1601
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 2: had some struggles in his life after baseball, but I'm

1602
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: glad you brought him up, because he's one of those

1603
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: forgotten Reds guys who was was really, you know, was

1604
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: one of those guys just on the verge of what

1605
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: you thought, you know, he could have been a really

1606
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: great player, and it just just he had a nice

1607
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: run there, you know, from at eighty eighty two through

1608
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 2: you know, eighty six or so, but it just couldn't

1609
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 2: quite sustain it. So yeah, glad you brought him up.

1610
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you for thanking.

1611
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to uh, let's go, let's go to a

1612
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: chuck at a seven mile Hey Chuck, Hey, how's it going?

1613
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: Man?

1614
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: How you got? Who you got? Is your favorite.

1615
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 7: Sean Casey I have and really I have a really

1616
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 7: good story about mister Casey. My cousin and I God

1617
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 7: Rest the soul. We went over to see the Reds

1618
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 7: play in Pittsburgh and it was a year or two

1619
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 7: after Casey.

1620
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 6: Retired and we had, you know, like front.

1621
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 7: Row seats of both first base, and about the third

1622
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 7: or fourth inning, an usher came down to us and said,

1623
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 7: you guys from Cincinnati. Huh yeah, well mister Casey wants

1624
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 7: to ask you to come up.

1625
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 6: And join him and his family. Really and we're like yeah.

1626
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 7: We're like, excuse me. He said, yeah, follow me. I

1627
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 7: am not kidding you man. We followed this usher up

1628
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 7: and it was Sean Casey's first game that he was

1629
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 7: back to since he retired. Yeah, and he was there

1630
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 7: with his wife and kids and treated us like we

1631
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 7: were family, asked us all about us.

1632
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: It was ins you were wearing your Reds.

1633
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 7: No, absolutely, yeah, we were all decked out on the

1634
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 7: road gear, just like I am right now.

1635
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: But uh.

1636
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 7: We sit down with him for an inning or two

1637
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 7: and I remember one of the biggest questions we asked

1638
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,480
Speaker 7: and we were like, so your first.

1639
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 6: Came back, you know, who are you rooting for?

1640
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 7: And he was like, well, he's like, my son asked

1641
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 7: me this on the on the way to the ballpark

1642
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 7: today and he was like, I got a root for

1643
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Reds.

1644
01:21:54,880 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: I'll always beer red Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1645
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: a testament of a man that he is.

1646
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 6: It was really cool.

1647
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 13: Well, and it doesn't it make it doesn't make it.

1648
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 13: Doesn't it make you might make it more special of

1649
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 13: a player when he's so engaging off the field and

1650
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 13: he's so fan friendly and such a regular guy and

1651
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 13: it's not just lacky.

1652
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 2: You're solid player. And you know, I think we can

1653
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: all we all know those guys that are, you know,

1654
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: fantastic players, but they have no they have no connection

1655
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: to fans, They have no engagement. They don't want to

1656
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,759
Speaker 2: be engaged with the fans. They don't want to connect

1657
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: with people, you know, with with you know, everyday people

1658
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 2: like you and I, Chuck, But no, I was a

1659
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 2: great one. Thanks, Thanks Chuck.

1660
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 7: One of one of my dearest friends, Wade Hunker, his

1661
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 7: son had Tommy John surgery when he was like fourteen,

1662
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 7: and he actually came to the hospital and visited his

1663
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 7: son in the hospital. He still got an autographed bat

1664
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 7: or something from him in the basement.

1665
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 6: It's just unbelievable, unbelievable guy.

1666
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 3: Man.

1667
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 7: My second favorite guy is Dave Miley, just because I

1668
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 7: golf with the Joe Nuxhall tournament and he likes.

1669
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 3: To drink beer.

1670
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 2: Thanks Chuck, let's uh, we gotta get to a break here,

1671
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: but they're more like, hopefully I can take some more calls,

1672
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: but hang in there, but we got to get to

1673
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: a break here. On News Radio seven hundred WW Welcome

1674
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: back to the news radio seven hundred w LW. Jason

1675
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: Williams from Cincinnati dot Com and the Cincinnati Inquirer. Be

1676
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: sure check out my columns on Cincinnati dot Com and

1677
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 2: in the Inquirer on Red's Bengals, sometimes nonsports stuff. I

1678
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: want to continue that conversation, your favorite Red? Your favorite

1679
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 2: read a lot of great calls. I know a lot

1680
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: of people were on hold and dropped off there, but

1681
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 2: let's uh, that made me think we got to continue

1682
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: that on so I know we lost a few people

1683
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: there a callback, uh five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

1684
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: eight hundred, the big one, your all time favorite Red?

1685
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 1: Whose poster did you have on the wall?

1686
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: Who's whose? Whose cards did you collect the most of?

1687
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: Who did you who did you buy tickets for the

1688
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: most that you really wanted to go see at the ballpark?

1689
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 2: Who'd you tune in to Marty and Joe to listen

1690
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: to and hear what he was going to do?

1691
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: The most.

1692
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: Why am I asking you that simple question? Yes, but

1693
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: something that really that that takes you back. And and

1694
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm asking you is because I got

1695
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 2: I got a chance to talk to Eric Davis this

1696
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: week from my sinsai dot com and Inquired column. He

1697
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: spoke to the team and U I you know, I

1698
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: went and caught him after he spoke to the current

1699
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 2: Reds players, which interestingly, no one. I went and looked

1700
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: this up. No one on the current Reds team was

1701
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 2: born the last time the Cincinnati Reds won the World Series.

1702
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Amelia Pagan is the oldest player on the Reds. He

1703
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: was born May seventh of nineteen ninety one, so what

1704
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 2: five and a half five five and a half months

1705
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 2: or so, No, seven, seven and a half months or

1706
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: so after they the Reds won the nineteen ninety World Series.

1707
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: So it's interesting to think. It was interesting to look

1708
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: at that up and see, like, yo, none of the

1709
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: players and then obviously most most players aren't from here,

1710
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: so they wouldn't necessarily have grown up like oh, the

1711
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds. But you know, it's it's just interesting to

1712
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 2: think that. It's it puts in perspective how long it's

1713
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: been since the Reds last one World Series. But uh,

1714
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: your favorite Red, your favorite Red? And I know Russ

1715
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: Jackson said his favorite Red, uh was Joe Morgan and

1716
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,839
Speaker 2: that when he was a kid he tried to emulate

1717
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: that the little the little wing flap stance when he

1718
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: was playing youth baseball. I love that. Eric Davis, you know,

1719
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: I you know why. Look here's my mount rushmore of

1720
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: favorite athletes and you'll you'll see a trend here except

1721
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: for Eric Davis. Uh, Pete Rose, Larry Bird, Bernie Cozar

1722
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: and Eric Davis my four all time favorite athletes. But

1723
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: my favorite Red was Eric Eric Davis, and is because

1724
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: athletically he was everything I wasn't. But I saw and

1725
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: I saw that athletically, I'm like, oh, with Pete Rose

1726
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: can do that, Maybe I can't. I'm not that athletic.

1727
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: Same with Larry Bird, same with Bernie Cozar. But but

1728
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 2: Eric Davis was just incredible.

1729
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: He was an.

1730
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: Incredible player and incredib double athlete, the fire the you know,

1731
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: the the dream five tool player, uh, you know, really

1732
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: a surefire Hall of Famer. How he stayed healthy, but

1733
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: it didn't it wasn't it didn't. You know, he's still

1734
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: got to play seventeen season in the big leagues, which

1735
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: is pretty amazing for a guy who battled injuries all

1736
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: those years. For the fact that he still got to

1737
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: play seventeen seasons and the grind that is, uh, you know,

1738
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 2: the big leagues, and he'd beat colon cancer. And for

1739
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 2: him to be still with the Cincinnati Reds as a

1740
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: senior advisor for the club and then spring one of

1741
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 2: the spring training instructors. I don't know, man, pretty pretty

1742
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 2: cool for this kid of the eighties growing up, you know,

1743
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 2: watching the Reds and loving the Reds. So let's go

1744
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 2: to your favorite Red five one, three, seven, four hundred,

1745
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: the big One. Oh, we got a new one here,

1746
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: Jerry and Loveland. This is the name we haven't heard

1747
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: yet tonight. Hey Jerry, Hello, how you doing good? Good?

1748
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: Who you got.

1749
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 14: Dave CONCEPCIOH yeah, me when I was a little kid

1750
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 14: playing Little League, and you'd see him jump up and

1751
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 14: catch those line drive balls at shortstop yep, like nobody

1752
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 14: else could. I don't know how he got that high,

1753
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 14: but it was amazing to me and it bugged me

1754
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 14: every time. I think Chris Spire from the Giants would

1755
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 14: win the Gold glove.

1756
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, instead of Nave.

1757
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 14: And then I think the Dodgers shortstop might have beat

1758
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 14: him out a few times, but it was mainly Chris Spire.

1759
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 14: It just bugged me. I thought it must be rigged

1760
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 14: because nobody was a better, better fielder than Dave Concepcium well,

1761
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 14: and I.

1762
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 2: Mean I'm thinking too, because you know, he was right

1763
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: there for me, I'm fifty and he was right there.

1764
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: You know, he played up until eighty eight and he

1765
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: was getting his forty years old. But you know, I

1766
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 2: remember him, and I remember him in his latter years.

1767
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: There's a guy played nineteen seasons in the big leagues,

1768
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: came up in nineteen seventy, and my goodness, he saw

1769
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: the best years. He was part of the best years

1770
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati read I mean, two more years he'd have

1771
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 2: been part of another World Series team. But when I

1772
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 2: think of Dave Concepci, and it's interesting. You think about

1773
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: those you know, going up, like climbing that ladder, and

1774
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: the thing that what I remembered is that as well.

1775
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: But then those backhands, those kind of backhands in the hole, uh,

1776
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: you know, that range that he had, And what you

1777
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: know what's interesting is like you look He never seemed

1778
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: like he was just this incredible, like from an a

1779
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: pure athletics standpoint, I never and again, like you know,

1780
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: I just remember him vaguely and certainly I've seen video

1781
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: clips and all that, but like, I don't know Jerry

1782
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 2: was he He wasn't a guy who you're like, whoa man?

1783
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 2: This He blows you away with his athleticism, right.

1784
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 14: But yet he did things as well everybody else, despite

1785
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 14: you know how he might have looked. It was amazing.

1786
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 14: And then I was so proud when he came back

1787
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 14: his later years. I think his last season he batted.

1788
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 7: Over three hundred, which.

1789
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 2: You know he had ever got his baseball reference up

1790
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: right here.

1791
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 7: Amazing.

1792
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 14: Maybe even his last I think his last second to

1793
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 14: last year he was in the upper two nineties. And

1794
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 14: then his last year he was over three hundred.

1795
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm right, is next yep, his next to last season, uh,

1796
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,440
Speaker 2: he batted three nineteen and one hundred and four games.

1797
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: He only and in his last season only played eighty

1798
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: four games. He batted one ninety eight. But you're right,

1799
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean he batted three he batted three nineteen there

1800
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: in that second last season. Uh. And and you know,

1801
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 2: pushing forty years old then, and you know another cool thing,

1802
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: he was a career since nineteen seasons with the Cincinnati Reds.

1803
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 2: How about that? Yeah, and then you know, Barry, Barry

1804
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Larkin was a shortstop who spent his entire career. Now

1805
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: our current short stop. I'm not sure we're gonna we're

1806
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 2: gonna be looking back and saying he spent his entire career.

1807
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 2: But it's a different age in a different time.

1808
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 14: We'll think of all the double plays that concepts you

1809
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 14: helped turn, that really helped the Big Red Machine win

1810
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 14: two back to back championships. He was integral to that team.

1811
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: And yet oh yeah he's not in the Hall yet. Yeah. Yeah,

1812
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 2: when we talk about you know, we general the general

1813
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 2: we and when we generally talk about the Big Red Machine,

1814
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 2: Dave Conceptsion one of those guys who's not not front

1815
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 2: of mind generally speaking. Now for you, Jerry as he's

1816
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 2: your all time favorite, but when we generally think about

1817
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: the Big Red Machine, right, uh, he's not. Oh you know,

1818
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: you know, you don't you rattle off Bench and Morgan

1819
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 2: and Rose and Perez and then uh, but you never

1820
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 2: really get to Conceptsion. But I think that's uh, I

1821
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: think it's unfair because he should be right there in

1822
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 2: that conversation, and you know, right there, right right, one

1823
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 2: of those guys right there as a you know, Hall

1824
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: of fame. Uh yeah, yep.

1825
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 14: Win those championships. I think who else would have been in.

1826
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Well, hey, to be a championship, look at look at everybody,

1827
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 2: look at everybody who went. You have to have a

1828
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 2: great shortstop, you know, you have to have a great shortstop. Jerry,

1829
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Great call. Let's go to uh,

1830
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 2: let's go to Jeff. Uh oh, Jeff and Dayton. And

1831
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad he's bringing this one up. Jeff, what do

1832
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: you got, hey, good?

1833
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: How you doing good?

1834
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 3: Topic?

1835
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 9: Did you know?

1836
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 2: I was like, man, is this over? Is this over?

1837
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 2: Simplifying it? But I had that personal connection with Eric Davis.

1838
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna throw that out

1839
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 2: because I want to. I want to I want to

1840
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 2: hear other people's favorite Reds and uh, you know, so

1841
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 2: the calls have been great, and Jeff, you've got another

1842
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: great one. I'm glad, go ahead.

1843
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 9: Well it's baby Pinson. He was the center fielder for

1844
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 9: the Reds from all through the sixties. He played center

1845
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 9: Robin Frank Robbins played left, and that was a Data

1846
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 9: could do everything. I remember this as a child. Some

1847
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 9: writer wrote this when he was a rookie hadn't played yet,

1848
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 9: but he said he can run like mantle Field like

1849
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 9: Mays and hit like anything, and Data actually could. He

1850
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 9: went on to play. I think he played ten years

1851
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 9: with the Reds. I still consider him the greatest center

1852
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 9: field in Red's history. And then he played another eight

1853
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 9: years with a couple other teams. So he had a

1854
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 9: very long career and I guess he's got He's had

1855
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,799
Speaker 9: a few votes for the Hall of Fame. I guess

1856
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 9: not hitting quite getting a three thousand probably undermine that.

1857
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 6: But anyway, that was my.

1858
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 9: Player that I enjoyed as a child.

1859
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought him up because he's also a guy.

1860
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: And he played eleven seasons with the Reds, went on

1861
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 2: and then went Saint Louis Cleveland the Angels, who were

1862
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 2: California at the time in nineteen seven two, and then

1863
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 2: finish up with the Royals in his last two seasons,

1864
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: finishing in nineteen seventy five. He's also one of those

1865
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: guys who, when you think about all time great Reds players.

1866
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 2: He's not necessarily front of mine, but he gosh, dog,

1867
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 2: he you know, and you know he played in the

1868
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: will he made you know, era right, and he was

1869
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 2: an incredible and you know so in some ways he

1870
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 2: was overshadowed by Willi Mades. And you know who wouldn't

1871
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: be but an incredible player.

1872
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, there were four outfielders in those days. It

1873
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 9: was Aaron Clemente, Henry, Aaron Yep, and Will He made

1874
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 9: and that's what Vada just seeks.

1875
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 6: Many All Star games and he might have made it.

1876
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 3: But you know he didn't. Playing like he did.

1877
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: He made he made two all He made two All

1878
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Star Games his second and third season back to back

1879
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty nine and nineteen sixty. He came up, goodness, grace.

1880
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 2: He came up in nineteen fifty eight as a nineteen

1881
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 2: year old. UH played twenty seven games in that first

1882
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 2: first season, but then turned around played one hundred and

1883
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 2: fifty four games. Think about that. I mean, listen to this,

1884
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 2: Listen to this is this is going from his second

1885
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: season in the big leagues, which he was an All

1886
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 2: Star in nineteen fifty nine, he goes, he plays one

1887
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four games nineteen sixty, one hundred and

1888
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 2: fifty four, nineteen sixty one, one hundred and fifty four,

1889
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 2: sixty two, one hundred and fifty four. Listen to this.

1890
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: Sixty three played all one hundred and sixty two games

1891
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 2: one fifty six, one fifty nine, one fifty six, one

1892
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 2: fifty eight. Uh, and then he dropped one. Oh my goodness,

1893
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 2: he dropped a one thirty. I mean, but this guy,

1894
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: like what an iron man, you know, like you know,

1895
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 2: for the first what you know, decade of his career,

1896
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 2: he's playing almost every single day. His his lowest outside

1897
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 2: of that rookie year when he you know, abbreviated season,

1898
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 2: but he goes from nineteen fifty nine until nineteen sixty seven,

1899
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: he played one hundred and fifty four to one hundred

1900
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 2: and sixty two games every season. That's I'm glad you

1901
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 2: called it. I didn't know that. I didn't realize that about.

1902
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: Him, But well, he was.

1903
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 9: He was a great player. But let me one other things.

1904
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 2: About his mother calls. Yeah, go ahead.

1905
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 9: One of the things about Veda pensions, how many hits

1906
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 9: did the lifetime? Do you have that in front of you.

1907
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: Let's see his career hits two thousand, seven hundred and

1908
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 2: fifty seven. Yeah, not a lot too far off.

1909
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 9: Three thousand played center field for the Big Red Machine.

1910
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 9: No kind of accivate what he had had if he'd

1911
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 9: played center field for a Big Red machine. Hey, thanks

1912
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,839
Speaker 9: for taking my calls. It's very enjoyable.

1913
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff, Yeah, thank you too. I like I

1914
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: know this next guy. I like it, man, I'm excited,

1915
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 2: and he didn't. It's not on my screen. Who his

1916
01:36:59,240 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 2: guy is.

1917
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 3: I love this.

1918
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to a PJ Street We do Pjday.

1919
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 3: Is now you doing man? Man?

1920
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, I was just traveling home, and you know, I

1921
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 15: heard the heard the topic and I had to chime in.

1922
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 15: So I believe it was I'm aging myself. But it

1923
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 15: was nineteen eighty.

1924
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 6: Eight or eighty nine.

1925
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 15: My grandmother, my late grandmother, grandmother took me to a

1926
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 15: baseball card shop and shiviy it. And I was a

1927
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 15: card collector at the time, and I inherited a lot

1928
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 15: of old baseball cards from my grandfather and I took

1929
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 15: I took in a probably a PSA two, not that

1930
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 15: they graved him at the time. Nineteen sixty five Nickey

1931
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 15: Mantle card into this Baseball card shop and the owner

1932
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 15: gave me four hundred dollars for the card. Wow, I

1933
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 15: was blown away by it was probably worth a lot more,

1934
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 15: But I had the reason I went in there because

1935
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 15: I had.

1936
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 9: To have the Eric Davis rookie card in a lass case.

1937
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 15: So I got that, and I got that, which I

1938
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 15: still had to this day.

1939
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 9: I'm actually staring at it.

1940
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 2: At the tops.

1941
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

1942
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 15: And then I also immediately went to Brenda More's Sporting

1943
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 15: Goods on the West Side and by two pairs Air Jordan's.

1944
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 3: That's how I spent them four hundred dollars.

1945
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 15: But yeah, my my all time favorite Red is definitely

1946
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 15: Eric Davis. A close second is Tony Perez. And then

1947
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 15: I also just bought a from Cincy shirt to a

1948
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 15: Glenn Bragg's T shirt for Opening Day.

1949
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 2: Oh I saw, I saw they had that shirt. Yeah, yep,

1950
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 2: shirt Eric Davis, PJ. I mean, and you know some

1951
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: of those folks that are you know, around our age

1952
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 2: now that are just come into being Reds fans and

1953
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 2: weren't Reds fans in the eighties. Man Eric Davis was

1954
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,719
Speaker 2: the man. Oh that was he was the man.

1955
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 15: Jason was like at that time it was. It was

1956
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 15: Michael Jordan bo Jackson. And then if you're in Cincinnati,

1957
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 15: was Eric Davis.

1958
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 3: I mean the.

1959
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 15: Smash the Smash Hit Sports Illustrated cover. I wish I

1960
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 15: still had that. It was on my wall for a

1961
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 15: long time when I was a kid. But that was,

1962
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 15: you know, in the in the the the olplan Age

1963
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 15: World Series. I mean, that was as good as good

1964
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 15: as it can possibly get.

1965
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you saw this on Twitter. Yes,

1966
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 2: this was yesterday. There's this Twitter feed there like a

1967
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: retro sports and if they're called super seventy sports, and

1968
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:34,759
Speaker 2: I got seven hundred thousand some followers. But they tweeted

1969
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 2: out a video of Eric Davis and it was from

1970
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven and it says Eric Davis was once

1971
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 2: the best player walking this planet, whether it was for

1972
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 2: a year, a month, two weeks, or a Tuesday afternoon

1973
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: in May of nineteen eighty seven. I was there and

1974
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 2: I testify it sure as bleep happened.

1975
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 3: Oh he really was.

1976
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 15: I mean he was as a eleven year old kid

1977
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 15: who loved the Red, Eric Davis was as close to

1978
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 15: God as you could get.

1979
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 2: Absolutely couldn't have said any better.

1980
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 3: PJ.

1981
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 2: I got more calls. Hey, thanks for calling in. I'll

1982
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: look forward to keep hearing you on on your Thursday segment.

1983
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 2: I love that with Eddie Rocky. But great job to night.

1984
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 2: Thank thank you man. Let's get to uh Curtis's Curtis

1985
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 2: been on hold from the longest now Curtis, Uh.

1986
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 11: Hello, Well I got Frank Robinson. But I wanted to

1987
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 11: bring up a point about Dave conceptcy House. Yeah, they

1988
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 11: battened when the pitchers hit, and he always batted in

1989
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 11: front of the picture. Oh yeah, that's the hardest place.

1990
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 6: To hit in the lineup because they.

1991
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 9: Just pitch around you because.

1992
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 6: You're getting the picture.

1993
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 14: His batting average.

1994
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 11: Would have been way higher on any other team he

1995
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 11: played on, because he was the only team that.

1996
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 6: He had the bat eighth and was on the new

1997
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 6: Bread Machine. And he should be in the Hall of

1998
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 6: I don't think.

1999
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 2: Look at that, that's a.

2000
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 5: Point of a picture.

2001
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 3: He was.

2002
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 11: He got the worst pitches in the entire line all

2003
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 11: his career.

2004
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 2: Never thought of that, but yeah, you're right. I mean especially,

2005
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean.

2006
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 11: That somebody could tell that the Veterans Committee in the

2007
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 11: Hall of Fame, and and I've tried my best to

2008
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 11: find shortstop Ozzie Smith didn't.

2009
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 2: I think he didn't. He bet seventh and Geronimo about it.

2010
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 7: No toronto him because I think he.

2011
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 6: Had more power.

2012
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 11: But if you go back and look, Dave Concepcion was

2013
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 11: mostly batten in that eighth hole. And and if you

2014
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,520
Speaker 11: go back and try to find Ozzie Smith making spectacular

2015
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 11: plays in the hole backhanded compared.

2016
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 7: To Dave's Conceptsio on videos, you don't have a chance.

2017
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 11: Nobody could go in the hole like Conceptsio and he

2018
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 11: he should be off in.

2019
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 7: The Hall of Fame.

2020
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 6: There's just no doubt about it.

2021
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 2: Well, thanks, Curtis, I got to get to another call.

2022
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in. Let's get to uh, well, hey

2023
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: we got an we got another new one here and

2024
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 2: a new one, but not a new one. Wayne, Wayne

2025
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 2: is in Monroe, who wants to weigh in? Is our

2026
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 2: final caller of the night on a great, great lot

2027
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 2: of great calls and great memories of great players in

2028
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reid's history. And Wayne, you're going to cap

2029
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 2: it off with another great one.

2030
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 6: Awesome.

2031
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 16: Hey, Johnny Bench has always been my favorite player. But

2032
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 16: we were in me and my wife for a little

2033
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 16: restaurant in Hamilton.

2034
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: Ohio called Harold's.

2035
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 16: It holds about twent fifteen people, right, And I had my.

2036
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: Back to the door.

2037
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 16: We're talking about baseball with my wife and she said, well,

2038
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 16: that guy behind you looks like he could really play.

2039
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 7: I turned around.

2040
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 6: It was Johnny Bench.

2041
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: Really, yes, did you say hi?

2042
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2043
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 8: I did.

2044
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 16: I get to He went and set up the bar

2045
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 16: to eat a sandwich, and I didn't want to bother him,

2046
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 16: but I just say hi and thanked him for all

2047
01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 16: of his years and stuff like that. Was no, No,

2048
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 16: it's been quite a few years ago.

2049
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Was he already, Carol. Was he already retired?

2050
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 16: Yeah, here's ro car But he still had the legs

2051
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 16: like a catcher. Oh yeah, I'm saying that's why I

2052
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 16: remember him. Picked legs And she goes, well, he looks

2053
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 16: like he could play that. Yeah, he's the greatest.

2054
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 2: Of all times.

2055
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 6: That was really cool to do that though.

2056
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome, Wayne, Thanks so much, thanks for calling

2057
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 2: in and sharing. What a great great note to end

2058
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 2: on here tonight. My time is up. Donna d is

2059
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 2: coming up next. She's gonna take you from nine all

2060
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 2: the way to midnight. And uh, let's yeah, let's get

2061
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 2: to the let's get to a break news radio seven

2062
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 2: hundred ww