1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Alright, eight eleven on the Big one seven hundred WLW. 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: OUR podcast in the eight o'clock hour is brought to 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: you by A and E Doors and Windows. You can 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: learn more at AE door sales dot com. Coming up 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: at eight thirty eight, we've got Mondays with Marty Brennaman 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer. But first things first, what we 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: saw on the banks Thursday, and again it's another topic 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: where people are just kind of, oh well, even a 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: judge Carrie Bloom, you can't tell these kids that they're 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: bad kids or they'll be bad kids. And no one 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: is suggesting otherwise when it comes to that. But the 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: bottom line is you had depending on who you believe. 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: Bottom line is the numbers were in the hundreds of 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: kids who came from the city and they started brawling 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: basically in Washington Park. They made their way and continued 16 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: brawling on Fountain Square and then they came down and 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: turned the entire opening day evening into a nightmare. And 18 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about this stuff from time to time. 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: It sounds like more often lately than we have in 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: recent memory. But Deacon Joe Grody is down there working 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: on this kind of stuff every single day. And he 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: has written a recent book, Where Have all the Fathers Gone? 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: He is kind enough to join us here this morning. 24 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Deacon Grody, thank you so much for your time. You know, 25 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: when I look at some of the numbers of let's 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: start with white kids, and I don't want to turn 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: this into a white black thing, but the numbers are 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at here. Roughly about twenty two percent 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: of white children in the US are born to unmarried mothers, 30 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: and it should be noted that that among white women 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: has increased significantly since nineteen eighty, nearly tripling. It's gone 32 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: from ten percent to twenty five almost thirty percent. In 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the African American community, approximately seventy percent of children that 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: are born are born to unmarried mothers, and over fifty 35 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: percent of them live in a one parent household most 36 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: of the time. As you know, Deacon Grody, that one 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: parent is a mom and not a dad. What is 38 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: being done to our children in the inner cities these 39 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: days by not having a dad around, no. 40 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: One to tell them, no, no one to give him 41 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: a huger. You know, there's no replacement for being there. 42 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: And you know, we can talk all day long we 43 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: want about race because I don't think race is the issue. 44 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: I think it's love. 45 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: I think we've abdicated our authority or our ability to 46 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: teach kids what love is. 47 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: It's been going on for forty to fifty years. You know. 48 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty only five percent of the kids in this 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: country lived without a father, and by twenty twenty it 50 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: was fifty percent, you know, and those numbers aren't getting worse. 51 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: You know, I really believe we need the curtail phone use. 52 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: You know, Australia has banned phone used for kids under 53 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: the age of sixteen. The country of Spain is thinking 54 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: about doing the same thing. I think we need to 55 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: do the same thing. You know. Basically, we're we give 56 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: kids a phone and say here, here's all the junk 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: in the world you want at the palm of your hand, 58 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: you know, and then that phone becomes the only friend 59 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: they have, the only influence that they have, you know. 60 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: And I shudder every time I hear about influencers, you know, 61 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: I mean, what kind. 62 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: Of influencers do we want our kids to see? 63 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: And we give them, we give them a phone to 64 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: see any kind of influencer they want. You know, we 65 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: need to start getting an army of our own influencers. 66 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: You know, people who start talking about how fun it 67 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: is to be a dad, how fun it is to 68 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: be a mom, and also how hard it is. 69 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: You know, you got to take the good with the bad. 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: You know, every day is not fun being a parent, 71 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: but most days are if you're there and you're holding 72 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: each other. You know, you talked a little bit earlier 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: about taking a virtual vacation. You know, we we basically 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: have kids that think that their phone is their virtual parent. Yeah, 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: you know, because it's the only it's the only information 76 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: that they have. 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, there are so many arteries off of this heartbeat, 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: and it's a sick heart right now, at least in 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: the inner city. Now, look, you've acknowledged that you don't 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: think that race is a factor, although the numbers, I mean, 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: they tell you that there is at least a significant 82 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: disparity that cannot be denied. In fact, nearly almost triple 83 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: the number of African American kids are being bored to 84 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: unmarried mothers. And there are a lot of socioeconomic factors 85 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: involved on this historical disparities, declining marriage rates, all that 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But at the end of the day, 87 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: you know, Deacon groddy. We hear so much about Okay, 88 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money is going to this program, a 89 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: lot of money is going to that program. Are we 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: missing the boat on where we're pouring the money into, 91 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: what programs we're pouring money into to try and get 92 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: these kids more guidance? For lack of a better term. 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: I would agree with one hundred percent. You know, first 94 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: of all, we have to realize it's not the kid's fault. 95 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: You know, their kids in plural fault. You know, they're 96 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: living in a society that we created, you know, so 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: we need to start taking measures to change that. 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: You know, it's all of our faults. 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: You know, I've got four kids, five grandkids. I've known, 100 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: I've been loved since the day i was born. We 101 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: need to start teaching kids what that can be. And 102 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: the way we're going to do that is living like 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: you know, we're in Holy Week right now. You know, 104 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: we can use the Holy Family as our guide. You know, 105 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: they they were poor as could possibly be. That's why 106 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: Christ came to Bethlehem, so he could come with the 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: poorest of the poor and prove that you can get 108 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: out of that, you know, and we're made for God 109 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: and we're made for each other. And you know, no 110 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: matter what religion you have, there's not one religion in 111 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: the world that talks about we don't need fathers and 112 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 2: we don't need mothers. Every religion talks about fathers and mothers, 113 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: you know. So you know, if to me, that's one 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: of the first steps we have to take. We have 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: to pray for each other. We have to realize it's 116 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: not the kid's fault, and we have to start, you know, 117 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: working towards making a deck in this issue. 118 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: You know, you say it's not the kid's fault, and 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: I think we all would agree with you that if 120 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: you don't have good direction, you don't have love, you 121 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: don't get a hug, you don't have somebody that'll be 122 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: there to try and talk you through your problems. You 123 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: don't have somebody there to help you with your homework. 124 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: Faith is a huge part about this. But then you know, 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Deacon Grotty, I see some of the kids who were interviewed, 126 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: for example, on television about all this, and I saw 127 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: a number of those kids that were very bright, very smart, 128 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: very together, they were basically being critical of those that 129 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: they are in the same age group. So I mean 130 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at a kid like that, 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: the ones I'm referring to, you're like, yeah, there is 132 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: a way to do this, But I just wonder at 133 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I mean to be specific, 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: You're out there fighting the good fight every single day. 135 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: You're trying to share your faith with these kids, but 136 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: are they listening to that? I've always thought, you know, 137 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: I go to a Bible study once a week, just 138 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: studied about started about two years ago. And look, I 139 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: had read the Bible before, but it doesn't come alive 140 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: until you have somebody truly make it come alive where 141 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: I think it can make a difference in your life. 142 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Do we need to even change the way we're sharing 143 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: faith with these kids? Does that make sense? Or am 144 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I just rambling? 145 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: No? 146 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, the faith, to me the beginning of it, okay, 147 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: But the second thing is education. 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: You know. 149 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm want to tell you a story that I learned 150 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: the last couple of months that there there's there was, 151 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: and I don't think I don't know if this program 152 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: is still going on, but there was a program at 153 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: an inner city school right here in Cincinnati where the 154 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: principal realized that kids. 155 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: Had no male influence in their lives. 156 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: And so she started a preschool for kids ages two 157 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: through five, and she demanded that every instructor at that 158 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: preschool be a man, because she said that was the 159 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: only man they were going to have in their lives, 160 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: you know. And I think that's a phenomenal idea. And 161 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: then we need to take what they're learning there and 162 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: to start teaching some morals. I'm sorry that there are 163 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: morals that are basis of any great society. Ask John Adams, 164 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: asked Thomas Jefferson, asked George Washington. You know, and I 165 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: just this morning, I was working out at the Evendale 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: Community Center, which I do five days a week, and 167 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: there was a woe there. 168 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: She heard me because I told somebody I was going 169 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: to be on your show. 170 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: And she heard why I was going to be on, 171 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: and she said, you know, I was a teacher, and 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: she said I left the profession because there was no 173 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: discipline in the school I was at. And then she 174 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: also said, though, there's a lot of schools that have discipline, 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, and so maybe we need to start looking 176 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: and don't put a broad brush on all schools, but 177 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: we have to start looking. Where are the schools that 178 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: are the problems, and let's start getting some influence in 179 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: those schools. And I'm going to kind of turn this 180 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: back on you, not you personally, but the entertainment world, 181 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: sports figures and whatever. 182 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: If we could start. 183 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: Getting some of our own influencers who are football players, 184 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: basketball players, baseball players who are filmed talking about having 185 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: a wife, having a kid and the fun. 186 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: They have with that, we will make a dent. 187 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: We will make a dent, but we have to get 188 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: them to commit to being on our side and helping 189 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: us out. 190 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 191 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: I remember spending time with Joe Dieters when he was 192 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: the prosecuting attorney here and his lead detective just talk 193 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: about exactly what you're talking about. In that there would 194 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: be kids that would come in that he would interview 195 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: that had just shot and killed somebody at fifteen or 196 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: sixteen years old, and he would speak to them and 197 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: their eyes were blank in even understanding what it is 198 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: they did wrong and the difference between right and wrong. 199 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: And yes, you can hear it from your mom, and 200 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: mom's making an incredible impact in that regard, but for 201 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: men and or for boys and girls, hearing it from 202 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: a man also has its special set of advantages and 203 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: not just hearing it from the mom. 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: All the time exactly exactly. You know, kids shudder. I 205 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: mean that they shut her because you know the way, 206 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: because mom says, wait till your dad gets home. 207 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 208 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: That I'll never forget one day when my mom just 209 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: said wait till your dad gets home, and I. 210 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: Shook for eight hours. 211 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know that that's the kind of discipline 212 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: we need. But you need a dad coming home to 213 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: give you that, you know. You know, we we have 214 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: to be aware too that we can start, you know, 215 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: on this tomorrow having all the influence we want. But 216 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: it's going to take a while to make a dent. 217 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: But it's I believe it's never too late. You know, 218 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: We've got to start trying. And I'm I'm out there. 219 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: You know. 220 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: Last time I was on your show, I had three 221 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: different people call me and say, hey, I'm with you. 222 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: Let's move forward with this. 223 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: And I've been working on the foundation that I had 224 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: an idea of about thirteen years ago to help man 225 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: bring men back into the influence in their in their kids' lives. 226 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: And I'm really working to get that going. It takes time, 227 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: it takes money, but I also need people. I need 228 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: people with influence who want to help me, and so 229 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: I'm open if you want to contact me at Deacon 230 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: Joegrody dot com or at grodyjw at gmail dot com. 231 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: I'm I'm out there. Let's let's get this going. 232 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: Give that one more time, if you would, Deacon, so 233 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: everybody can write it down. 234 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: Sure, Grody, it's g r o te jw at email 235 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: dot com. 236 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Keep fighting a good fight, Deacon. We appreciate your time 237 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: and we'll check back in with you soon. And I'm 238 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: all on board to help you do whatever you can do. 239 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: I am all on board. Thank you very much. For God, Boss, 240 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: you will believe me, take me up on it. You 241 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: got it, You got it, because this is the stuff 242 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: of where society's break down. They break down. Amen, and 243 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: Happy Easter, Happy Easter. The Reds of course, and for 244 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: forty six years you listen to them each and every 245 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: night about this time of the year. The Hall of Famer. 246 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I call him Dad, you called him Marty Brendaman. 247 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning. 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: Are you I'm already You're finally catching a breather. It 249 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: seems like every time I turn around, you're making some 250 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: appearance somewhere. 251 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: No, I'm good. 252 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 5: Now, I'm good. I've got a break for a while. 253 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people ask me all the time, 254 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: and I say this with sincerity. I mean, at eighty 255 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: three years old, do you not get tired? 256 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 257 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 5: I get tired occasionally, and then sometimes I'd take anap 258 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 5: in the afternoon. I mean I tell people all the time, 259 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: you know that are younger and full of energy. 260 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: And can go twenty four to seven. I say, just wait. 261 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: Time will come when you realize you have to take 262 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 5: stock of your age and your condition, and then you 263 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: have to do what's natural in terms of trying to 264 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: stay healthy. 265 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: But I side of the fact that you're grateful that 266 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: you're able to do everything you're doing at eighty three, 267 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of cats out there at 268 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: eighty three that aren't able to do those things. 269 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 5: No, and I'm very thankful for that, truly, I truly am. 270 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: I think about it all the time. It's in fact, 271 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 5: it kind of scares me a little bit every now 272 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 5: and then to be as healthy as I seem. 273 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: To be at my age. You know, I'm very. 274 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 5: Very thankful about my situation. 275 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I want to ask you a little 276 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: bit about well, start with the Reds over the weekend. 277 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: They lose on opening day of the chaos downtown and 278 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: the Banks. After it's over, they come back to next day, 279 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: Pegan gives up a home run to tie the game 280 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: of the ninth inning. They win that game, and then 281 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: they come back and they win to make it two 282 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: out of three over Boston over the weekend. You know, look, 283 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: I know it's only three games, there's one hundred and 284 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: sixty two, but there's a there are a lot of 285 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: things to be very positive about from this opening weekend, 286 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: not only the fact that they won two out of 287 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: three games. 288 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 5: No, I agree one hundred percent with that, Tom. 289 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: You know I was there for the opener. 290 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,479 Speaker 5: I didn't go Saturday or Sunday, but I watched yesterday's 291 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: game almost in its entirety, And you're right, there are 292 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 5: things that have happened that we did not see last year. 293 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 5: And I agree, as you just said, it's a very 294 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 5: small sample size minuscul if you will, with only three 295 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 5: games of the books, but they beat a pretty good 296 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: team at Boston two out of three. They won close 297 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 5: games after being shut out on opening Day, and there 298 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: were individual two people who either weren't here last year, 299 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: or were but in a limited role. 300 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: And then there were. 301 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: Some of the stalwarts that you expect from, and so 302 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 5: many people stood up and were counted over the weekend, 303 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: even in the opening game when they were blank, but 304 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: their pitching was consistently good. They gone gave up the 305 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: home run, but they went in extra innings. But there 306 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 5: are times last year when he did the same thing. 307 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 5: You can't knock the guy's record because it was outstanding. 308 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: And he came back and he did the job yesterday. 309 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: And then you had Dane Myers, a kid who was 310 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 5: with the Oakland or Miami Marlins last year and came 311 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 5: up and got the big hitting extra innings on Saturday 312 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 5: and on and on and on. 313 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: Matt McLean boys, he been something. 314 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 5: And so yeah, there's a lot of things to be 315 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: enthusiastic about. 316 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: The starting pitching. 317 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 5: Was good, and I find very little to be critical 318 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: about the way they played against the Red Sox. 319 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm often amaze, and tell me if you 320 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: agree with this. You know, I have found through the years, 321 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: even when I was doing games, that reds fans sort 322 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: of look down their noses at the Pittsburgh Pirates. Now 323 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: the Pirates are a dreadful franchise. They've been bad for 324 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: a long long time outside of a year here, a 325 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: year there, twenty thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, but other than that, 326 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: a disaster. But you know, look, the Reds have not 327 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: been a hell of a lot better. And when they 328 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: have played against one another for the last number of years, 329 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: which they will start doing so in a three game 330 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: series tonight, the Pirates have owned this rivalry. I mean, 331 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: it's almost indescribable how much they have owned the Reds. 332 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: And when you look at little things that have to 333 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: change from last year or any given year to the 334 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: following year, this season series against the Pirates, the Reds 335 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: need to change the way this thing is going. Don't 336 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: they have any chance at all to win the division? 337 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 338 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: I smistifying the dominance that the Pirates should've had over 339 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: the Reds the last number of years didn't make any 340 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: difference if you expect to, you know, to have some 341 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: advantage when you're playing at home, and the Pirates have 342 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: done that against the Reds in Pittsburgh, but they've also. 343 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: Done it here. 344 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 5: They have to play much much better against the Pirates 345 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: in the win loss column. And the other team is 346 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 5: they've got to do a better job against the Milwaukee Brewers. 347 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: I mean, the Brewers have dominated them just like the 348 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 5: Pirates have now. Granted, Milwaukee is considered to be one 349 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 5: of the better teams in the National League. But at 350 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 5: the same time, if you are serious about winning this division, 351 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 5: they've got to play much better against the Pirrus and 352 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: they've got to show that they can stand up and 353 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 5: be counted in terms of wins versus losses when the 354 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 5: series begins against Milwaukee. 355 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Milwaukee, I don't know how they do it. 356 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: I really don't know how they do it. And again 357 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: it's only three games. I don't want to get carried 358 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: away with anything, but I mean they start the year 359 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: and here they come again, and they might be three 360 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: and three after three days from now, but they're three 361 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: and zero today. It's just it. Whether it was Craig Council, 362 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: Pat Murphy, the organization as a whole, they have created 363 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: a great winning culture up to know, they haven't won 364 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: the World Series, but they're getting to the playoffs virtually 365 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: every year. Anyway, all right, I want to shift gears 366 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: for a minute. I'm sitting at home yesterday and I 367 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: had a bunch of stuff I had to get done, 368 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: to get ready for today, and etcetera, etcetera. Run a 369 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: bunch of errands. But I really settled in because I 370 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: wanted to watch the Duke Yucon game. I watched the 371 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: first half. I turn it on, I turn it off. 372 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: I did. I turned it off and did not turn 373 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: it on again, and then got a bunch of stuff done, 374 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: trying to make myself go to bed a little bit earlier. 375 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: I checked my phone before I go to bed, so 376 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: like four hours had passed, maybe three hours had passed, 377 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: And it comes up that Yukon wins the game, and 378 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: I watch a replay of the shot. Yeah, I mean, 379 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, visus now and second, I were documenting this 380 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: three years in a row. Look as great as Dukes, 381 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: and they are the premier power out there. They have 382 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: very much a March problem right now with John Shire there. 383 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: I don't know how you change it. I don't know 384 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: what you do in terms of mindset. 385 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 5: I'm sure that preparation, physical preparation. I don't think that 386 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: has anything to do with it. I think John Shire 387 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 5: is the singular outstanding young coach in college basketball. I 388 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: believe that as perfectly as anything, because of the way 389 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 5: he stepped in for Mike Krzyzewsky. 390 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: And done what he's done. 391 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 5: But it's got to be a. 392 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 4: I don't know what's a mental thing. I watched the 393 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 4: entire game. 394 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: I've left at halftime and then came back early in 395 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: the second half, and for some reason, I just stayed 396 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: with the game. They seem like they panicked in the 397 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 5: last four minutes of the game, and to Dan Hurley's 398 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: ball club, give them a lot of credit that you've 399 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 5: been very easy to quit. When they were nineteen down 400 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 5: in the first half of he had to do blue Devils, 401 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: but they didn't do it. And then the Mullins kid 402 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: hit the incredible shot. I was reading the Athletic this morning. 403 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 5: It's one of the most iconic shots in the history 404 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: of the NCAA. Was as soon as the ball left 405 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: the kid's hand. 406 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: He had been horrible. 407 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 5: They brought him in early in the game to try 408 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 5: and help to get them back in the game and 409 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 5: shooting threes. He threw an air ball up there at once. 410 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: He clanged two or three shots, but when it got 411 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 5: down to having to have it done, he made the shot. 412 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 5: I have great respect for Dan Hurley. I know what 413 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: people say about him. He's a wild man on the sidelines, 414 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 5: but his kids love him. His kids play for him, 415 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 5: his kids respond to him, and it was. 416 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: Really something to watch. 417 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 5: Thank god I taped the game because I wasn't sure 418 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: I was going to be around. I'm going to go 419 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 5: back and watch the last minutes of it sometime today. 420 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think they had an eleven point 421 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: lead even with seven eight minutes left in the game, 422 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: and let that thing get away. Okay, I was sitting 423 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: here thinking last night, and I was basing this before 424 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: I saw the score because I thought Duke was going 425 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: to be the Final four. But you could make the 426 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: same argument for Yukon. You called a ton of final 427 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: four events through the years with CBS Radio, and I 428 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: don't know if I can ever remember where we have 429 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: a final four this year, and I'm sure it's out there, 430 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: but a final four where the four teams playing are 431 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: on top of their game going into the final four. 432 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: You can make an argument that Michigan looks unbeatable. You 433 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: can make an argument that Arizona looks unbeatable. Same thing 434 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: for Yukon and the same thing for Illinois. They are 435 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: clearly the one that doesn't get the pub that the 436 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: other three get. But I could see them winning the 437 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: whole thing too. 438 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: Well. 439 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: I hope nobody bad mouse a basketball the Big Ten anymore. 440 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: I mean, because that's ridiculous the way that that conference 441 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: has stood up in this tournament, even though that some 442 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 5: teams are not there. Uh, but I agree with you 443 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 5: the way those two board teams have played consistently well. 444 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 4: Since the tournament began. 445 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 5: Per Due too, they lost a tough game, but uh, 446 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: you know, I I've got we all have a bracket, 447 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: and I I've got two teams left and they're playing 448 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: each other. That's Arizona and Michigan. I had Duke in there, 449 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: and I think I had Houston sneaking in there to be. 450 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: One of the final four. 451 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: I No, I agree with you one hundred percent. I'm 452 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 5: still going to go with Arizona. I think Arizona, uh 453 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 5: is such a They're starting to get credit now for 454 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 5: the fact. 455 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: That it's a very physical team. 456 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 5: I think Tommy Lloyd's done an incredible job with that 457 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 5: with that program, and and and they can they can 458 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 5: see it up and go blow to blow with anybody 459 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: in the country. But but you Kai and has They're 460 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 5: coming off of such an emotional high. 461 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting to see. 462 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: How they play in their final four game on Saturday. 463 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well, when you mentioned Tommy Lloyd, head coach at Arizona, 464 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: He's been there since twenty twenty one. They've set NCAA 465 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: records for wins and a coach's first two seasons, three seasons, 466 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: four seasons, five seasons. All the guy does is win, 467 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: and win at a staggering level. Now his name along 468 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: with Billy Donovan, who won back to back national championships 469 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: at the University of Florida, He's been coaching in the 470 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: NBA for a number of years. Currently with the Bulls 471 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: that are not going to make the playoffs, they are 472 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: the two front runners for your alma mater, what I 473 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: still consider to be the best job in college basketball 474 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: at North Carolina. Do you think it's one of those 475 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: two guys? Is Carolina? Can they take Tommy Floyd away 476 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: from Arizona? 477 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: Well more so, let. 478 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 5: Me let me I'm glad you brought the subject up 479 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: because I made some phone calls yesterday and I call 480 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: some people to give me the skinny on Billy Donovan, 481 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 5: and what I'm hearing is that Billy Dinmond has no 482 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 5: intention of leaving the NBA, that he won a national 483 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 5: championship at Florida coaching there, He's won an NBA title 484 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 5: in Oklahoma City, and that he has no interest in 485 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 5: going into the nil portal deal in college basketball. 486 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: He's not going to leave there. 487 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: He's got a long term contract with the Bulls making 488 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: six to seven million dollars a year. 489 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: He's going to stay where he is. 490 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 5: I don't know why his name continues to pop up 491 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 5: unless he's pulling somebody's strength. I would have a hard 492 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 5: time believing that the Carolina could induce Tommy Lloyd to 493 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 5: leave Arizona. I'm sure he's making a ton of money. 494 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 5: I'm sure that he's happy. How could you not be 495 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 5: up there? 496 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I. 497 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 5: Got a chance to see their facilities two years ago, 498 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: and I don't I can't imagine why he would come 499 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 5: east and with all due respect, and I posted this 500 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 5: on the internet the other day. 501 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: All I've heard from and you know. 502 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 5: Nobody's there fan for Carolina that I am, But all 503 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: I hear is it's the number one program in the country. 504 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 5: The big name coaches would line up to coach there. Well, 505 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 5: you know what no, they're not, and Carolina's got They're 506 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 5: going to have a major problem if they can't get 507 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 5: Billy Donovan, if in fact things change there from what 508 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 5: I've been told, or Tommy Lloyd, because the coaches are 509 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 5: not showing a great deal of interest. The portal opens 510 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 5: on April seventh, and the NCAA Final Four is not 511 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 5: over relative to Tommy Lloyd until a week from tonight, 512 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: so that portal's going to be open for a number 513 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: of days before the tournament is officially over. 514 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 4: If they don't have. 515 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 5: A coach in place by the time the portal opens, 516 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: they got a real problem. 517 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 4: And I think that Bubba. 518 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: Cunningham, who is the ad at Carolina, and this last year, 519 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: they got a problem down there, and I don't know 520 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: how they're going to resolve it. 521 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's always great having you with us. 522 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: Mondays with Marty. Hope you have a great rest of 523 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: your day, and we'll check in again next week. 524 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 4: Look forward to a pal all right, Marty. 525 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna be starting a big, big segment on Thursdays 526 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: coming up with both Cincinnati Animal Care and Control and 527 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: SPCA Cincinnati to try and get more doll