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Speaker 1: Of my listening audience and personal friend of mine, Christopher Smithman,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, man. It's good to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Man. It's good to hear your voice. Ryan who I

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Speaker 2: tell you the subject matter of city hall weighing in

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Speaker 2: on what's going on in Minnesota as it relates to ICE.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they're joining the lawsuit against ICE's activities Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and Minneapolis, Saint Paul, other cities have filed this lawsuit

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Speaker 1: seeking to curb ICE activities, and so the City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: I guess, felt it necessary to join in the fund

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Speaker 1: and join in the lawsuit. So we are a sanctuary

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Speaker 1: city city of Cincinnati, is isn't it? Christopher?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We are. And now all I'll say is that

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Speaker 2: you know, this is just an underscoring of the mayor

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Speaker 2: and this council really just not liking law enforcement in general.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important to emphasize that ICE is focused

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Speaker 2: on the worst of the worst. They're focused on people

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing that people are blowing whistles and

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Speaker 2: literally ICE is taking out a rapist, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't get where the Democratic Party is going right now,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I saw that second video where they

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Speaker 2: showed that American citizen, I think it was a week earlier,

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Speaker 2: this is really, this is really a message of what

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Speaker 2: this guy was doing was he was agitating those ICE officers,

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Speaker 2: not just sitting there doing a peaceful protest. But I

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Speaker 2: don't understand where city council is going. And then I'm

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Speaker 2: getting text messages saying, in the City of Cincinnati, parents,

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Speaker 2: we need you to bring your shovels. We need you

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Speaker 2: to dig us out. We need you to come and

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Speaker 2: shovel the snow at our goals. I mean, the roads

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati still are not clear. They need to do

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Speaker 2: a lot more work there. Right. The budget is a mess.

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Speaker 2: We need to do work there. Right. We have issues

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Speaker 2: related to potholes that are still real. I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out why this council for the last two weeks,

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Speaker 2: the resolution they passed on ICE. Now, what you're sharing

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Speaker 2: with me about joining into a lawsuit in a different municipality.

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Speaker 2: This city council is just completely distracted. Brian Thomas, this

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Speaker 1: Well, that's their their liberal virtue signaling then to join

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Speaker 1: in the fund. They're not gonna let everybody, all these

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Speaker 1: other left wing liberal cities go without Cincinnati being a

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Speaker 1: part of it. I don't know this. This doesn't I

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Speaker 1: guess my point is it doesn't shock me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is very consistent with the Pervoll administration of the

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Speaker 1: talking about this kind of thing for a long time,

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Speaker 1: where there are various proclamations and resolutions and now of

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Speaker 1: course expending resources I'm sure money monetary resources to get

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to try to make it make a

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Speaker 2: little sense. What we see here is a mayor who's

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Speaker 2: in his last four years and he is thinking about

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Speaker 2: how he's going to get there, and so this virtue

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Speaker 2: are based on that. You know, don't be surprised to

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Speaker 2: hear him in two years say I'm running for Congress,

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Speaker 2: or you know, I'm running for Senate, or I'm trying

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Speaker 2: some administration. He's trying to position himself for the next

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Speaker 2: gig at the expense of Cincinnati. So we talked about

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Speaker 2: just say, what you're going to see are nine members

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Speaker 2: Where are we trying to go, where are we trying

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Speaker 2: they're talking to their base, making sure that their base,

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Speaker 2: which I'm saying the Democratic Party base has really lost.

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Speaker 2: They are so far left, but they need those people

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Speaker 1: Well, it's continue pause right now. Bring Christopher Smithing back

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more, are our local law

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Speaker 1: enforcement working with ICE? Working against Ice? Are we detaining

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Speaker 1: to come up and pick them up when they've served

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Speaker 1: with Christopher Smithlman, former vice mayor of the city. Since

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Speaker 1: council pass the resolution urging federal law enforcement officers in

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati to comply with city policy which requires body cameras

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Speaker 1: identification of mass This is the kind of thing that

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Speaker 1: Chucky Schumer's arguing about needs to be incorporated into spending

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much control we have over ICE.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if ICE has a separate standard

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Speaker 1: when it comes to compliance with you know, like use

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Speaker 1: you know, telling ICE how to do their job where

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Speaker 1: where you know you've got someone who's a criminal, they've

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Speaker 1: served their time in prison, they are subject to a

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Speaker 1: we operate here is that Charmine mcguffey's policies relative do

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Speaker 2: I think we need to hear from the sheriff. I

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Speaker 2: think the resolution was clear. You know, if we, as

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Speaker 2: you've indicated, if we've detained a criminal in the jail,

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Speaker 2: are we notifying ICE to come get them. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if the sheriff is cooperating. I think it's something

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Speaker 2: it relates to the jail, as it relates to the sheriffs.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from the FOP president. What is

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Police Department cooperating with ICE as it relates to criminals?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you and I are talking about criminals. We're not.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about you know, people out here who

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Speaker 2: for me as the texture of this politics is that

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Speaker 2: no one was protesting when other presidents were doing deportations.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama, I read a quote from twenty tenco this

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Speaker 1: is exactly the same policies that Barack Obama had. He

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Speaker 1: out too, Barack Obama said, literally, Well, because it's going

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Speaker 1: on he delivered his historic deportations. Not a peep from

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Speaker 2: Why is it when you say that out loud it

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Speaker 2: makes democrats mad, Like I'll tell a Democrat that and

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Speaker 2: These are just facts. The fact pattern is President Barack

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Speaker 2: Obama deported more people than President Trump, and he was

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Speaker 2: President Barack Obama honored as doing a great job in

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Speaker 2: the relation to deportation. Am I exaggerating? If you're a

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Speaker 2: what happened. Why now are they so angry when they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I just have to interject a

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Speaker 1: The guy squirts a cider vinegar on her. People freak out,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's an attack on ilian Omar. Then

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Speaker 1: I hope she had nothing to do with it, and

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Speaker 1: I hope people stop doing things like that. But it's

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Speaker 1: the day of the internet, you know, Christopher, You're gonna

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Speaker 2: Now, before we go, I wanted to pivot back because

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Speaker 2: I saw your energy level jump, and my energy level

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Speaker 2: jumps too, because I'm wondering where the Democrats were when

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Speaker 2: President Barack Obama was aggressively doing deportations. And when we

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Speaker 2: say aggressively, we're talking five six million people were thrown

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Speaker 2: the same thing with President Clinton. I mean in his addresses,

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Speaker 2: the same things. All of them are Senator Schumer, same thing.

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Speaker 2: It's not just Barack Obama, all of these Democrats in

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Speaker 1: I think it's the sign of Trump arrangement syndrome. Not

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Speaker 1: from other things. I think the reason Barack Obama embraced

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Speaker 1: as of right now, Barack Obama's policies, if you want

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Speaker 1: He's going after anybody. Fine, that's what Barack Obama did.

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Speaker 1: So let's say that. So Trump is now where Obama

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Speaker 2: Well, we just have to ask ourselves this question. When

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Speaker 2: President Barack Obama was the president, right, This is not

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Speaker 2: just these are just facts, Brian Thomas. And I'm saying

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Speaker 2: It's not where I am right. So I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: Choose your friends wisely. Christopher Smith Wani, well, have you

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Speaker 1: back on on Monday