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Speaker 1: Gaddy a Cheater, one stake bookuet of Roses at a Time.

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Speaker 2: Four of the Roses stars right now on kt WB.

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Speaker 3: What would you do if you were dating somebody but

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Speaker 3: you never did anything with them? I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: even know what you do if you're dating somebody and

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Speaker 3: then like you never go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like some independence, but I still want

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well we're talking to Sophia, who is telling

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Speaker 3: me about is your boyfriend Jared?

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Speaker 2: Is that his name?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jared?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So tell me a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit about why you're on War of the Roses and

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Speaker 3: what makes you think that he might be doing things

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Speaker 3: just not with you.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: So he does a lot of stuff and he says

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Speaker 1: he's doing it by himself. Like he will go out

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Speaker 1: to eat, like he went to Redstone the other night

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Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, I just sat at the

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Speaker 1: bar by myself for a few hours. And he'll go

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Speaker 1: to concerts or like live music or the movies, and

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Speaker 1: he always says that he's going alone, like he doesn't

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Speaker 1: invite me. He doesn't say he went with a friend.

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Speaker 1: And so now I'm starting to get suspicious, like are

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Speaker 1: these dates that he's going on? And he just doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to say that? Is he cheating?

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Speaker 5: And I don't know what's going Juan war.

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Speaker 3: The Roses first three three decades now, wow, unaccounted for

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Speaker 3: time is always like suspicious?

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Speaker 4: What is it unaccounted for? If he's saying, this is

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Speaker 4: where I'm going, That's what I was gonna say. He

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Speaker 4: tells you where he's going. You said, he said Redstone

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Speaker 4: the other day, So he actually tells you, like if

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Speaker 4: he's out at this bar, or if he's out at

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Speaker 4: this show or something.

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Speaker 6: Have you ever tried showing up?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: But sometimes he does share his location with me, so

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Speaker 1: I know he's telling the truth about where he's going. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: well that's this is that he's there alone.

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Speaker 2: Why doesn't he take you along?

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Speaker 3: Sophia? You sound charming and delightful. You must have something

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Speaker 3: in common. Why doesn't he invite you?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: I you know, I asked him and he just said

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Speaker 1: he thought that I wouldn't want to go because like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bother you.

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Speaker 2: And what do you say?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, do you respond with like, yo,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go, or I'm gonna guess you say, well,

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Speaker 3: I want to go sometimes, roll.

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Speaker 1: Because I do said I want to go sometimes, and

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Speaker 1: I get I guess he is maybe right then some

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Speaker 1: of the you know, music and stuff maybe isn't my thing,

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Speaker 1: and I do. I work a lot, and so I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because what if he is doing something with shady

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Speaker 7: so I can do shady stuff even though she knows

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Speaker 8: I'd be funny if one day you're like, actually, I

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Speaker 8: do want to go to Redstone with you and he's like, uh.

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Speaker 6: I just I mean, never mind.

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Speaker 3: So does he tell you these like I'm going out

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Speaker 3: well where were you? And then he like, oh, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like it's usually at night I'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I'm out at that Stone I'm out.

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Speaker 1: At I just am.

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Speaker 5: Leaving the movies.

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Speaker 1: There's something that you know, if he has his location on,

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Speaker 7: Okay, at least with like concerts though, like those, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's a good thing that you have the location on.

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Speaker 7: But it's not like he's going to say like, oh,

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Speaker 7: I I wasn't at this concert because concert there's so

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Speaker 4: And I also feel like him giving the location could

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Speaker 4: she's gonna trust me if I give her my location,

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Speaker 4: but she doesn't know who else is going to be there.

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Speaker 3: As a very experienced liar, the more details I can

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Speaker 3: that so you think that it's possible that he's seeing

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Speaker 2: We can get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 3: We can make a phone call to him and do

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Speaker 3: our usual ploy and say, hey, you take this survey

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Speaker 3: for your phone company.

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Speaker 2: You win some roses. Who do you want to send

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Your name is Sophia. Remember that Sophia. The matter is

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Speaker 3: the name that matters. That's the one we want to hear.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 3: Hang on, Sophia. We'll make a phone call to this

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Speaker 3: guy coming up in a second. Okay, Okay, none of

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Speaker 3: everyone deserves closure, but we do a signer.

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Speaker 6: Part two of War of the Roses on Katie WB.

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Speaker 3: So basically she's wondering what's going on. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: where'd you? Where were you last night? I went over

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Speaker 3: to Redstone, I had dinner at the bar by myself alone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, not tot too unusual. Well where'd you go

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Speaker 3: last What are you doing tonight? I'm gonna go see

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Speaker 3: a movie by myself? Okay, So now she's going all right.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to kind of be a loner, but

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Speaker 3: to never invite her along. So she's like, now the

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Speaker 3: wheels are turning. Yeah, she's he's with somebody else.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he must be, because why isn't the inviting her?

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Speaker 3: Which is a very good point, right, all right, let's

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Speaker 3: find out who he'll send the roses to if we

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Speaker 3: offer him free roses on War of the Roses on

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Speaker 3: Katie WB.

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Speaker 2: Making the phocal.

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Speaker 4: Ok Jared, I appreciate your time today, So I do

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Speaker 4: have a dozen red roses to send out to whoever

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Speaker 4: you'd like, whether it's a partner or a friend, maybe

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Speaker 4: your mom. But I'll need to know the name of

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Speaker 4: that person. So if you could just tell me who

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Speaker 4: you want to send those two, sure.

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Speaker 1: You can send it to Sophia.

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Speaker 6: Who's Sophia.

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Speaker 1: She's this girl I've been seeing.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so your girlfriend?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't if I was seeing someone, i'd want.

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Speaker 6: More of a yeah, yeah, that's my girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Do you like surprises, Jared, I guess it depends on

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Speaker 3: the surprise. Well, I have a little bit of surprise

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Speaker 3: for you, and it's not a terrible thing. The reason

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Speaker 3: why all of a sudden there's a guy on the

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Speaker 3: phone is because this was all a setup to see

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Speaker 3: if you would send roses to Sophia, which you did.

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Speaker 2: And my name is Dave and we're.

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Speaker 3: On the radio on Katie WB oh yeah and so

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Speaker 3: and so. The person that put us up to this

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Speaker 3: to see if they wanted to test you is Sophia,

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Speaker 2: Say Hi, Sophia, Hi, I am here.

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Speaker 1: Oh he share, what's up? I'm sorry you hear so

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Speaker 1: much stuff for yourself that I was kind of trying

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Speaker 1: to think that you're lying that you're split some one else.

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Speaker 2: You thought I was seeing somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to like explain, but you know,

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Speaker 3: she basically said, you go to all these things by yourself,

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Speaker 3: Like you go to Redstone, you go to movies, you

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Speaker 3: why do you Why do you go everywhere by yourself.

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Speaker 1: And you don't invite me?

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Speaker 2: Well, I invite you sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But most of the time you don't. I feel like, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I like, I don't know being by myself.

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Speaker 1: That's always just kind of been a lone wolf.

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Speaker 2: A lone wolf, okay, I mean is there anything wrong

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Speaker 2: with that? Well, nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 7: I want to know when he chose her to send

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Speaker 7: the flowers to her, he was just kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I guess she's kind of like my girlfriend. Are they

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Speaker 7: not exclusive or you guys? Did you guys have the

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 7: It. Yes, I kind of get that maybe they should.

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Speaker 2: I like you, Sophia, but if you're a lone wolf,

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Speaker 2: then why have a girlfriend?

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Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna ask you.

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Speaker 1: You know, why do you do you do you even

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Speaker 1: want a girlfriend who seem like you'd rather just be alone?

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Speaker 3: I mean Sophia is great, and I like being with

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Speaker 3: her some of the time. And I understand this guy.

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Speaker 3: I know, and I totally get this guy. He wants

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Speaker 3: he loves his alone time. He's kind of what do

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Speaker 3: they call it, a not a rec loose, A lone wolf,

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Speaker 3: a hermit alone wolf. He's a lone wolf. I kind

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Speaker 3: three or four or five days out there without Susan around, and.

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Speaker 2: It's just fine. But you've been married to Susan.

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Speaker 8: This is a new relationship, so it should be like

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Speaker 4: I'm actually on Dave's side, which is not normal for me.

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Speaker 4: I am really about spending time by myself, even if

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Speaker 4: I'm in a new relationship.

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Speaker 3: To eat wherever you want, watch whatever you want, go

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Speaker 7: So you're saying Sophia should just go out and live

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Speaker 7: her own life too, and then they both want to.

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. I'm That's what I'm saying, that

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Speaker 7: there's ships in the night. That's the part we're advocating for.

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Speaker 2: Sophia wants more time.

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Speaker 6: Together, right exactly. I think that's a validation.

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Speaker 2: Will this relationship last? Sophia, you're up first?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I guess what is you know?

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Speaker 1: Going?

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Speaker 1: How it is if you're as long as it's not

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Speaker 1: that you're trying to meet someone else or that you're

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Speaker 1: going on dates and lying about it. I understand why

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Speaker 1: I to spend time alone, but I would like to

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Speaker 1: spend more time with you and get to know you better.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that sounds great.

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Speaker 3: You're You're welcome to come with me to movies sometimes,

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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes.

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Speaker 6: Get like how many days? How many more days a week?

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Speaker 6: Are you going to hang out? Jared?

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Speaker 4: Are you willing to give her one more day to

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Speaker 4: hang out a week at least one?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 3: I think that there are couples like you know that

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Speaker 3: She was out at Purse Bingo. Yeah, I guess you

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Speaker 7: And the last relationship that I was in it was

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Speaker 3: So when you talk about this guy, I'm just I've

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Speaker 7: But he was funny, so funny, but still like so

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I'd spent almost every minute that I'm

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Speaker 2: Ever, that's an issue. There are some text messages.

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Speaker 3: Here's when it says, my fiance told me that he

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Speaker 3: And I think that sometimes that's really hard for extroverts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy my time being social, but maybe not for

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Speaker 3: like a long time. I mean, sometimes we'll do something

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Speaker 6: Can we get out of here?

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Speaker 2: And other people that just thrive on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think people are learning that it's it's

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Speaker 8: I think COVID taught people straight across the board fifty

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Speaker 2: There is no in between.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, what do they say that you are

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Speaker 2: I mean, what a sad thing? God, Bailey, well anything

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Speaker 7: No, but you should be like comfortable being by yourself,

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Speaker 7: totally valid thing to want. Maybe I'm I'm literally just projecting.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: Susan wants to go see her best friend, who now

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Speaker 3: doesn't live here anymore, after you know, living here for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she lives down in Nashville, I want to say.

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Speaker 3: And so she's like, I'm thinking about going down seeing Terium, Like,

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Speaker 2: When do you want to leave right now?

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Speaker 6: Let's go?

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Speaker 2: Mean maybe next week? Well why not right now?

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Speaker 3: Taxi's going text messages that will wrap up War of

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Speaker 3: the Roses. This text says, I like Jared, the guy

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Speaker 3: totally separate lives and interest and friend groups with some overlap,

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Speaker 3: but we very much love our time together. Been together

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Speaker 3: for twenty years. I think that's true. Some couple want

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Speaker 3: I spent the afternoon with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be here tonight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you people.

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Speaker 7: Problem is that there are two different types of people

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Speaker 7: and they probably it probably won't work out between Sophia

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Speaker 2: Probably not, And that is go ahead.

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Speaker 8: People are texting like, I guess because I said that

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm just he never wants to

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Speaker 8: It seems like Sophia literally was just like, he never

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying do something, you know,