1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Lee Vidio. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: All right, everyone, good evening, and welcome into a new 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: week of Nightside. It is April sixth. On a point 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: of personal privilege, Happy birthday to my son Daniel, my 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: namesake son Daniel. I'm not going to tell you how 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: old he's turned, but he's he's quite a young man, 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: and I just want to say I'm very proud of him. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: Remember the night that he was born, so stormy night 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: in back back in the last century. Let me put 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: it like that. It was a stormy night. But it's 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: worked out great. It's a great son. Welcome in everyone, 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: and welcome into this week. It is again April sixth, 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Time flies when you're having fun. We 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: have four great guests coming up in this hour. And 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: then we have a very interesting guest, tech entrepreneur Paul English, 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: who's a Massachusetts guy through and through from West Roxbury. 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: Originally went to the same high school that I did, 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: Boston Latin School. He's quite younger than I am. Well, 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: we won't get in any ages tonight, and we're going 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: to talk about all the things that he is involved 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: in and he is very much involved in artificial intelligence. 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: He's been very successful, very generous to the Boston Public 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: schools and also to you Mass Boston. He's a graduate 24 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: of U Mass Boston. I'm a graduate of Boston State, 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: which now is you Mass Boston. Uh. He also was 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: very much involved in the the creation of the on 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: the whole on the there's a sculpture called the Embrace 28 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: on Boston Common. 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: He actually was the founder of that effort. He's been 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: involved in what they call a super walk for homeless, 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: and he's going to take that nationally. So he has 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: a lot to talk about, a lot to talk about. 34 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: We'll talk with him at nine o'clock hour. Then at 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: ten o'clock we will say thank goodness that both of 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: those pilots were recovered safely from Iran. And of course 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: now there's going to be a big decision made about 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: twenty four hours from now unless some sort of an 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: agreement can be reached, but we'll save all of that 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: for later. We're going to start off with Paula Fleming, 41 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: who is the chief marketing and sales officer for the 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: Better Business Bureau of Boston. And Paula wants to remind 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: us at this time of year, particularly as hopefully you're 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: going to be getting a refund from the Internal Revenue Service. 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: Don't fall for any of these scams that are around 46 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: in which some contractors who are not regulars in our 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: area try to get in get some money for some 48 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: work that they promised. They may or may not complete it. 49 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: They may not complete it well, Paula, this is a concern. 50 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 2: I know that this periodically occurs, but this is one 51 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: that you folks are very concerned about, particularly in the 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: month of April. 53 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: And may absolutely yes and thank you for having me. 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: It's great to be here again. So yeah, so people, 55 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: hopefully if you're receiving a tax refund, we want people 56 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: to be aware that spring is really the kickoff for 57 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 4: the home improvement season and with that comesy scare artists. 58 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: We're already hearing about people knocking on doors claiming they 59 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: have extra product, and we want people to be aware 60 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: that not everyone has your good intentions at heart, so 61 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: make sure that you do your research up front. 62 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: So a lot of these folks they move around, I mean, 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: then I don't believe that there you can't be Boston 64 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: based and make promises not fulfilled. Promises or or just 65 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: take off with dout payment. Did they make did they 66 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: move around the country. Is there any way that we 67 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: can recognize them? Say, can you give me a business card? 68 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: What's your address? If they give you a post office 69 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: box address, I assume you have a right to be 70 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: a little suspicious. Give us some insight as to what 71 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: people should look for. 72 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, So it's a few key warning signs that 73 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: someone shows up on invited offering services that sounds good 74 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: to be true, go with your gut. If they claim 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: to have leftover materials, it's a huge red flag, very 76 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: common with the scam. If they push you for a 77 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: quick decision or a cash payment and they're really using 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: those pressure tactics, that's not in a professional manner. Another 79 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: red flag. So you just want to make sure that 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: you are doing your research and taking time and not 81 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: falling to these scams. And it is something we called 82 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: the traveling contractor scam. So these crews go neighborhood to 83 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: neighborhood offering services like driveway paving, as I mentioned, roof repairs, 84 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: and we want we see an uptick because of the 85 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 4: time of season here in New England and also because 86 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: you know we hopefully some of us will get tax 87 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 4: refunds and have extra money to spend to and make 88 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: home improvements this spring. 89 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: Is there any ability in a situation like that to 90 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: bring the police in? Do they do it in such 91 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: a way that they're not even necessarily committing a crime. 92 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: They're making promises and which maybe you don't believe they'll fulfill. 93 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: But if they if they'll say, if they say to you, hey, 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: if you can give us a check for one thousand dollars, 95 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: we can cut five thousand dollars off this fifteen thousand 96 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: dollars job. So your head swirling, you're thinking, hey, for 97 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: a thousand dollars, I save five thousand dollars. And these 98 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: guys are gonna you know, I assume once they accept 99 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: a check with no intention of doing the work, they've 100 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: committed a crime. 101 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: That would be fraud, right absolutely. And we have had 102 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: scams reported to us in that regard where they say, okay, 103 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: we'll give you five hundred dollars, they say they're going 104 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 4: to leave, get their crew, their full crew, and be 105 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: back and they kick off with the check. Some people 106 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: even have provided cash because they say there's an extra 107 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: discount if you provide cash and we want you can't 108 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 4: contact the police, file a report, report it to be 109 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: the scam trucker if you have given money and then 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: are left with either if you're unhappy with a product 111 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: that was given or if they just simply vanished. So 112 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: that is a situation where you would want to get 113 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: the local police involved. 114 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: Now here's me asking questions to which you might not 115 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: know the answer, but I would suspect that one of 116 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: the things people should do, in my opinion, is see 117 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: if they have a vehicle with them, See if there's 118 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: a name and a number on the side of the vehicle, 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: See if it's a local phone over, and if you 120 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: can see if they have a local Massachusetts license plate. 121 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: Yes, that that is a good tip. And you know, 122 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: in theory it sounds it sounds easy, right if the 123 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: car is parked near your home and you see them 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: exiting the car. But oftentimes they'll park, you know, at 125 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: the beginning of a neighborhood and then they have you know, 126 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: one or two individuals literally go door to door, so 127 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: it's hard to see which even vehicle that's come out of. 128 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: But that is a good tip. Asking for a business card, 129 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: seeing if they have anything you know that proves who 130 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: they are. 131 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes they do. 132 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: They will be wearing something visually that you can see 133 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: that it's branded with their business name. They may even 134 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: have branded clothing on. But again, I would encourage people 135 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: not to just act in an urgent manner and take 136 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: time to do research. If they are a legitimate business, 137 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: they will take your money now, and they will take 138 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: it in two weeks after you've done your research and 139 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: gotten the correct estimates. Except truck. 140 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing is one of the questions that 141 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: you could ask is where's your truck? Because any of 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: these companies that are going to be doing real work, 143 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: I assume have to have some sort of at least 144 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: a truck or a van with proper If somebody just 145 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: comes up to the door and says, hey, I'd like 146 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: to pave your driveway if you give me a thousand 147 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: in cash, that's probably a pretty good tip off that 148 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: you're not doing resolutely with someone who's legitimate. Yeah. 149 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And they'll use common names too, for like, hey, 150 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: I've been doing work down there for your neighbor John. 151 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: And you know, not everyone knows every neighbor so and 152 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: John is a popular name, and we've seen that too, 153 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: so you know, they try to get you know something, 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: to get you interested and pique your interest and want 155 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: to participate in whatever they're offering. 156 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: The other thing, too is if you have a bad feeling, 157 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: a sense of a bad feeling, never ever let someone 158 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: in side your house. 159 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, absolutely not. The safe the safest news 160 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: is simple, don't say yes on the spot, take the 161 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: time to do the research, don't let them in your home. Absolutely, 162 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: go to BBB dot org and check out the company first. 163 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: Paula has always always appreciate you taking the time, and 164 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: it's it's tough to think that this is the way 165 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: some people have to try to make a living. It's 166 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: it's frightening actually, to be honest with you. Thanks Paula. 167 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: We will talk soon again. Paula is A is a 168 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: frequent contributor here to the Nightside News Update, and I 169 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: very much appreciate you taking the time whenever you stop by, 170 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: paul because you guys always have Thank you, Thanks Paula. 171 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: We'll talk soon. Thanks so much. Well, we get back 172 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: when I talk to a remarkable young man who you 173 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: have heard from before. His name is Matt Brown. It's 174 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: a former Norwood High School hockey player who in really 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: one of his first games, ended up paralyzed. And that 176 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: can happen if you're going at a high rate of 177 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: speed and he hit the boards at a bad angle, 178 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened to Matt. But Matt has turned, 179 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: he's graduated from college, He's turned this incredible challenge. He 180 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: has conquered this. He now runs the Matt Brown Foundation, which, 181 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: believe it or not, even though he sustained paralyzing spinal 182 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: cord injury in twenty ten, I mean that's sixteen years ago. 183 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: Matt is in his early thirties. He's actually spent more 184 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: time paralyzed than he spent before his accident, and he's 185 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: doing good for other people through the Matt Brown Foundation. 186 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: He's an incredible human being. He's been on this show before. 187 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: He's written a book titled Line Change that talked about 188 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: the struggle that he had to deal with. Matt will 189 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: be with us next. The Matt Brown Foundation once again 190 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: has a team in the Boston Marathon, and if you'd 191 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: like to support any foundation in the marathon, this is 192 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: the one that should be, in my opinion, at the 193 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: top of your list. Just listen and keep a piece 194 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: of paper nearby, and we'll give you an address and 195 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: you'll be amazed at his story if you haven't heard 196 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: it previously here on Nightside. Coming back on Nightside right after. 197 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: This, It's Nightside with Boston's news Radio. 198 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 2: I want to welcome back to Nightside guy that I'm 199 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: a big fan of Matt Brown for the Matt Brown Foundation. 200 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Matt Brown, welcome back. I have interviewed you before and 201 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: once again you have your group running the Boston Marathon. 202 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: You'll be competing in the Boston Marathon. I think most 203 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: people know your story, but I want to go over 204 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: for those who don't. Welcome man. How are you tonight? 205 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: I'm wonderful Dan, How are you doing? 206 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: I can never underestimate what an upbeat guy you are. 207 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: You had a tough break literally and figuratively in twenty ten. 208 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: It was what your second or third high school hockey. 209 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 5: Game, third varsity game. 210 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: Third varsity game, and at one point you're careened into 211 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: the boards as can happen. You were going at a 212 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: pretty good rate of speed, and you sustain this paralyzing 213 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: spinal cord injury. People who did not have your character 214 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: probably would have wanted to have just you know, folded 215 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: up and died. You were want fifteen years old? 216 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I was just three, uh, just a few months 217 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: short of my sixteenth birthday, okay, And. 218 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: I know that you had some tough times here, but 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: real quickly, you're you. You're an incredible young guy, and 220 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: I've met you and we've talked many times. How did 221 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: you summon the will to just say, hey, you know, 222 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep going no matter what sort of 223 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: physical circumstances I'm facing. 224 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and Dan, I think it was a 225 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: mixture of things. I think I realized that, you know, 226 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: dwelling on the path was just going to make things worse. 227 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: I realized at fifteen that I still had a long 228 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: life to live and I'd be foolish to let it 229 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: waste away. And then I think the third thing is, 230 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: you know, I realized that I wasn't going to go 231 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: through it alone, with my family, my friends, and the 232 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: complete strangers that were sending me messages letting me know 233 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: that they were going to be behind me. I think 234 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: when I realized that, as tough as it was going 235 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: to be, and it has been tough, you know, I 236 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: realized that I wasn't going to go through it alone, 237 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: and and and that made each day a little bit easier, 238 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: a little bit better. And I realized that, you know, 239 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to work as hard as I 240 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: can for as lot as it takes, you know, to 241 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: one day get back on my feet. 242 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: Well you have, certainly, I expect you will be back 243 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: on your feet literally. But but you you went to 244 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: call do you have your college degree? Correct? 245 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 246 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: I did. And it's funny you bring us up because 247 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: I was just approached by Stoneholk College, my alma mater. 248 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: I graduated there in twenty sixteen. They are going to 249 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: honor me with an honorary degree at this year's graduation. 250 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: Wow, that's fabulous news. That is fabulous news. 251 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 5: Really cool. 252 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think that that you'll be in 253 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: You've been in inspiration to a lot of people. You 254 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: also wrote a book which is entitled Line Change. Anyone 255 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: who knows hockey knows that line change is a part 256 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: of the game, unlike a lot of sports where you 257 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: can only make substitutions during time outs as the game's 258 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: going on. Line change. That book, I'm sure has been 259 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: a success. But I want to talk about what you 260 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: and your foundation will do on marathon day, what is 261 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: the goal? How many people are involved? You will be 262 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: once again traversing the twenty six point two miles. Who's 263 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: who's working with you this year on. 264 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: That So it's it's my running partner, Lucas Carr and 265 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: this will be our twelfth. This will be our twelfth 266 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: Boston Marathon, fifteenth overall, and this is this is going 267 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: to be the sixth year that we have we run 268 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: for the Foundation and this second year in the official 269 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: charity program. And I owe like from the Foundation standpoint 270 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: and my own standpoint, we owe so much the Bank 271 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: of America and the BAA who have who have after 272 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: our application went in two years ago. We have been 273 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: in the charity program the last two years and Bank 274 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: of America has been so so gracious with their marketing 275 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: campaign this year. Lucas and I are outside on the 276 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: lasts and in twenty twenty, you know, uh demographics of 277 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: us pushing on the Bank of America headquarters. Uh building 278 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: we are we were We had a we had to 279 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: add in a Sunday Globe a few weeks ago. Bank 280 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: of America has been unbelievable and joining Lucas and I 281 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: this year are five runners, Dan Farrell, Dan o'lary, Mason Jones, 282 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: Matt Haley, and Joey O'Connor, who, as we know that 283 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: while the marathon is is this coming Monday, they started 284 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: this process months and months and months ago, and for 285 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: them to dedicate their winter and early spring to you know, 286 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: run and fundraise for the foundation means so much. And 287 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: what they're allowing us to do is give back to 288 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: those that need it the most. And I could not 289 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: be more grateful for their for their support and everyone's support. 290 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, just give my audience very quickly 291 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: a sense of who has benefited from the foundation. This 292 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: foundation is not to help you, it's to help others, 293 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: which to me is the most incredible part of his story. 294 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: Yes, so we we I what we launched in June 295 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty right in the middle of a pandemic, 296 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: and as a as a five and one C three nonprofit, 297 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: you rely on fundraising and events and for sixteen months 298 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: we couldn't do anything. But that support system that I 299 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 3: had behind me was able to make its way over 300 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: to the foundation, and slowly but surely we're able to 301 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 3: give back in the form of the pieces of a 302 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: medical equipment. We've been able to donate handicap accessible vans, 303 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: We've done bathroom renovations and home renovations, and since the 304 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: incorporation in twenty twenty, we have just surpassed six hundred 305 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in grants that we've been able to give out. 306 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: And you know, being on the other end of that 307 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: with a spot cord injury, I know how important any 308 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: grant is. And so when we've been able to, you know, 309 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: to do these things for these individuals. Our goal is simple. 310 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: It's trying to make someone's tomorrow a little bit easier 311 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: and a little bit better than there today. And that's 312 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: with an overhead lift where they can get in and out, 313 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 3: in and out of bed easier. We just did a 314 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: wheelchair for someone who needed just a little bit more 315 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: hope getting along and insurance denied them from their motorized wheelchair. Well, 316 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: and it's it's. 317 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: Been great, it's been great. 318 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: Well, you've been great through it all, so real quickly 319 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: you people can root for your team on marathon Monday, 320 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: but most importantly they could support and contribute to it. 321 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: So give us a way in which people are able 322 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: who are listening tonight who might be inspired to send 323 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: five dollars or fifty dollars or five hundred dollars or 324 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: Whatever's what's the best way people can be with you 325 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: there in spirit, if not alongside you every step of 326 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: the way. 327 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like the cheering is one thing. It gets us 328 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: from the starting line to the finish line, especially when 329 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: you need that little boost up on the hills. If 330 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: if any listeners are out there, are able, they can 331 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: visit our website and go to our Boston Marathon page 332 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: and on there is the is our giving game fundraising page. 333 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: You'll see all five of our runners on there, and 334 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: and five dollars, fifty dollars, five dollars. It every bit counts. 335 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: And I just want to say real quick, is that 336 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: I'm the one. I guess you can say the lucky 337 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: one with the name on the foundation. But it's those 338 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: that contribute, donate and hear our cause and hear our mission. 339 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: They are the ones that are allowing us to do 340 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: what we do. And without them it wouldn't be possible. 341 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: Okay, give me the foundation so people can can get 342 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: to it. What's what is absolute? 343 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's Matt Brown Foundation dot org. 344 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: Perfect Matt Brown, and that's m Att Brown. Like the 345 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: Color Foundation dot Org, Matt as always honored to talk 346 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: with you. I just I stand in total awe and 347 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 2: admiration of what you have accomplished under those circumstances and 348 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: your spirit that people just heard on the radio speaks 349 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: exactly what. 350 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 5: You are. 351 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: It's just and you're an incredible human being. Matt, thank 352 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: you so much. Let's we'll keep in touch. You promise. 353 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: I cannot thank you enough. 354 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: Have a great night YouTube Bell a successful run, that's 355 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: for sure, the bust the marathon, Thanks Matt. We got 356 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: the news coming up, and right after the news, we're 357 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 2: going to explain to you a lot of produce that 358 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: you buy in stores you should be concerned. We're going 359 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: to tell you about the dirty dozen pieces of produce 360 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: and also there's some fifteen good pieces of produce out there. 361 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: We'll explain. We'll be back right after the news at 362 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: the bottom of the air. And I also want to 363 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: give a shout out to the guy who who introduced me. 364 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: I should have mentioned it to Matt Brown, Jack Dougherty 365 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: of College Hype. Jack Dougherty and his team are some 366 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: of the most charitable people, and Jack is a great 367 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: human being as well. He heard about Matt Brown, has 368 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: taken him and worked with him, raised money for him again. 369 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: Really been honored to know Matt and Jack Dougherty back 370 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: on Nights Out after this, You're. 371 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: On Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio. 372 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: There is a growing awareness that pesticides are used to 373 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: make the produce that we enjoy and that we eat, 374 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 2: maybe to make it look cleaner, to look nicer, or 375 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: maybe to keep bugs away to allow it to grow bigger. 376 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: But there's a downside to that. Some of the produce 377 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: that we ingest has pestiicides on it, so called forever chemicals. 378 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: With us as a science analyst for the Environmental Working Group. 379 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: His name is Varum subraman Em. I'm hoping Varum that 380 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: I came close to that. 381 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for having me. It's supermonium and chapel. 382 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: Okay, yep, fine, okay, great. So you first of all 383 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: tell us the Environmental Working Group. I'm unfamiliar with the group, 384 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: although I joined it today. 385 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 6: Tell us what it is, sure, So, yeah, the Environmental 386 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 6: Working Group is an organization that every year we put 387 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 6: out something called the Shopper's Guide to pesticides and produce. 388 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 6: We've been putting it out every year since two thousand 389 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 6: and four now, And what this guy does is it's 390 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 6: analyzing pesticide residue data from the US Department of Agriculture 391 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 6: for tens of thousands of samples of forty seven different 392 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 6: fruits and vegetables. And essentially what we do is we 393 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 6: compile that data into a single list that represents the 394 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 6: overall contamination probe. While folks might have heard of our 395 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 6: Dirty dozen and Clean fifteen, these are components of our 396 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 6: list that essentially seek to rank these produce items based 397 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 6: on how contaminated they are. 398 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go through the Dirty dozen and then I 399 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: have some questions. Why don't you tell us? And I 400 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: think you ranked them in order so these would be 401 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: produce that you that we buy in the store, which 402 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: in your opinion, has way too much pesticides. And the 403 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: question I'm going to ask when we finish up is 404 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: can anything be done to clean them? To wash them? 405 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: And sept what are the dirty dozen? Let's hear it? 406 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 6: Sure, So, starting off from most to least contaminated, we 407 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 6: have spinach, kale, colored and mustard greens, strawberries, grapes, nectarines, paches, cherries, apples, blackberries. 408 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 5: Pears, potatoes, and blueberries. So those are the twelve items 409 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 5: on the dirty dozen. 410 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's take let's take from a practic and 411 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: we're going to give the way in which people can 412 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: sign up and become members of the environment or at 413 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: least get on your website. So if you rinse those 414 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: fruits and vegetables just with water, is that effective in 415 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: making them less dangerous? 416 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 6: A short answer from a paper we put out last 417 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 6: year that's currently under peer review, The answer is yes. 418 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: So what we found was any washing and that includes 419 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 5: just rinsing. 420 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 6: Under tapwater is pretty effective at reducing overall pesticide residues. 421 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 5: Now, we do know soaking. 422 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: And incrementally adding vinegar and baking soda, these are more 423 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 6: effective methods to use at home, but the overall takeaway 424 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 6: is that any washing is better than none and that 425 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 6: they're really one of the most effective ways we have 426 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 6: to reduce pesticide exposure at home. 427 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: We okay, people are going to do this quickly. You know 428 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: that as well as I do, is cold tap water, 429 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: it's effective that warm tap water. Should you really hold 430 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: those strawberries under the water for a minimum amount of time, 431 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: or the blueberrays. I have strawberries and blueberries. Every morning, 432 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: I rinse them off, but I don't know if I'm 433 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: rinsing them off long enough. 434 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 6: Help me out, right, So what we are analysis looked 435 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 6: at was just tap water the way folks would use 436 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 6: it at home. You know, I'm in the same boat 437 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 6: as you. A lot of us don't have time to 438 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 6: soak our produce, let alone let the top heat up. 439 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 5: So one thing to do is what we know is rinsing. 440 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: The physical action of rinsing underwater is enough to get 441 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 6: rid of a lot of these surface pesticides. 442 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 5: But that's only half of the story unfortunately. 443 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 6: Right, So you mentioned forever chemicals and forever pesticides. We 444 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 6: haven't had any targeted studies yet to know if washing 445 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 6: can reduce those. Okay, we do know there's a lot of. 446 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 5: Other pesticides that can be brought out simply by rinsing 447 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: or washing. 448 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: Okay. And then the other question I have is, I 449 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: see on TV there's an ad where there's they'll they'll 450 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: for They're selling you some liquid cleaner, and I'm gonna 451 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 2: even gonna mention the name I don't even recall the name. 452 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: But what they do is they put the the fruits 453 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: and vegetables in a bowl and they put clean water 454 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: in there. Then they strain the vegetables in and so 455 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: you see the water, how just how dirty it is? 456 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 5: Right? 457 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: Is that product substantially more effective than water? 458 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 6: So at EWG, we don't endorse or recommend the use 459 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 6: of any commercial produce washes, soaps, detergents, bleach, anything like that. 460 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 6: They haven't been approved by the SDA, they haven't been 461 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 6: essentially endorsed yet, and there's not enough research out there 462 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 6: to show that these produce produce washes do anything meaningfully 463 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 6: different from just rinsing or soaking in vinegar or baking soda. 464 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 6: So at EWG we recommend you know, steering clear of these. 465 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: Produce washes and just looking to. 466 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 6: Your own things that are in your pantry. These are 467 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 6: often you know, just as effective, if not more. 468 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So what I wouldn't I myself would would find 469 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: the idea of soaking the blueberries or strawberries that are 470 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: going to have on my may awaken when any cocoa 471 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: cereal tomorrow morning, I wouldn't find that particularly pleasant. However, 472 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: when you say, baking soda, just like a bowl of 473 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: water with a little spoon of baking soda and let 474 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: them sit in that and then rinse them. Is that 475 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: even what you would Is that what you would mostly recommend? 476 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: Yes, so exactly that. 477 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 6: And to your point, you know, flavor and taste that 478 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 6: matters a lot otherwise, you know, big advice is feel 479 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 6: your fruit. 480 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of folks like their fruits with. 481 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 6: The peel vone and a lot of folks don't want 482 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 6: their berries to taste like vinegar. 483 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: Something I've been doing at home is exactly as you mentioned. 484 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 6: You know, soaking these berries and water, just adding a 485 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 6: dash of baking soda and letting it soak for five 486 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 6: to ten minutes. 487 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 5: It's something I've admittedly started doing since I was on 488 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: that project, and it's okay. 489 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, And to your point, you know, when you pull 490 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 6: those berries out of the water, it's really startling to see. 491 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 5: Just how cloudy that can be. 492 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 6: It's not necessarily that that's a bad thing, but you know, 493 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 6: just when you have the ability. 494 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 5: To soak it at home, to me, the calculus is 495 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: why not? 496 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's go to the fifty clean fifteen. Let's 497 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: talk about some fruits and vegetables that are the cleanest 498 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: and if you want to go for the best to 499 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: you know, the top a build up. Did you have 500 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: a way you want to do it for them? Sure? 501 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 6: So we'll go from least to most contaminated, and that 502 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 6: list is pineapples, sweet corn, including both fresh and frozen, avocados, papaya, onions, 503 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 6: frozen sweet peas, asparagus, cabbage, cauliflower, watermelon, mangoes, bananas. 504 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 5: Carrots, mushroom, and kiwi. 505 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: A lot a lot of those you don't eat raw. 506 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: So for example, on watermelon, you're going to cut into 507 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: the watermelon. On you're probably gonna peel the avocado. So 508 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: I guess that's a that's a reason for that. Now, 509 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: how can folks get on the mailing list and get 510 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: this information? I signed up today. I don't think there's 511 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: a trage involved, So. 512 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 5: Tell you now there is things to do. Yeah, So 513 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: that's you know, appreciate the shout out here. 514 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 6: If you visit EWG dot org that has all of 515 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 6: our information as soon as you get onto the website. 516 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 5: This is kind of one of our landmark releases every year. 517 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 6: It generates a lot of interest. So going to our website. 518 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 6: There's a form you can fill out there that will 519 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: have you get on our mailing list. It'll send you 520 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 6: a digital copy of both of the lists. And really, 521 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 6: you know, for folks don't even have time to do that. 522 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 6: If you just look up EWG in our lists, it's 523 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 6: been covered by a lot of media. It should be 524 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 6: in hopefully should be in your local media outlets, and 525 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 6: it's the goal is for it to be a tool 526 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 6: that's accessible for all. 527 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: We believe all consumers have a. 528 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 6: Right to know what's on their produce and really anyway 529 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: to get this information out EWG. 530 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: So Edward Walter, George EWG dot org. Yep, that's great 531 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: for real. Thank you very very much. You're gonna take 532 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: another shot at the last name here. I want to 533 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: thank for room, Subja rama on that. Okay, I was 534 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: pretty I wasn't bad. That's uh. That's that's I was 535 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: pretty close. I'm working on it. Next time we have 536 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: you on, I'll nail it. Okay. 537 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 5: Thanks for Room, Yes, sir, looking forward to it. Thank 538 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: you for having me. 539 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. When we get back, we are 540 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: going to talk about identity theft with the CEO of 541 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: the Identity Theft Resource Center. Have you ever had one 542 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: of those they're called captures where they'll say, well, we 543 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: don't know who you are. We want to know that 544 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: you're not a robot. So we're going to give you 545 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: a square which has nine nine blocks in it. Tell 546 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: us how many click on the ones that have a 547 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: picture of a tree. Well that that now, which was 548 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: intended to basically keep the Internet safe, now has been 549 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: taken over, I guess by the bad guys. So now 550 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: the suggestion is don't participate in those in that. We're 551 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: going to talk with Eva Velaskez. She's the CEO of 552 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: the Identity Theft Resource Center. Come on right back on Nightside. 553 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News. 554 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: Radio delighted to be joined by Eva Velaskaz, She's CEO 555 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: of the Identity Theft Resource Center. Welcome back, Eva. How 556 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: are you tonight? 557 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 7: I'm doing well and I'm looking forward to educating some folks. 558 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 7: Let's protect some people. 559 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I haven't seen these so called captures. That's 560 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: the box that pops up and asks you to click 561 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: on pictures of traffic lights, sidewalks, trees, fire trucks and 562 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: the theory is that they want to know that you're 563 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: an actual human being. So if let's say this nine 564 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: box is there, they want you to say, okay, the 565 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 2: first and the fourth and the ninth have a picture 566 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: of a part of a fire truck or a hydrant. 567 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: And for a while that was used by companies to 568 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: make sure that that their information was secure. That was 569 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 2: a good thing for a while. If I recall and 570 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: now it's a bad thing, explain it to us if you. 571 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 7: Will, Well, there's some nuance there. It's still a good thing. 572 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 7: Those Capture is designed so that you are proving that 573 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 7: you're actually a carbon based life foreman, not a robot. 574 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 7: You know, there's a real. 575 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: Human being that put a human being. 576 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: Right, Yes, exactly. 577 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: I've tried to get I've tried to get my dog, 578 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: my daughter's dog, Mustard, to do capture, but he just 579 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: doesn't seem to get it. Go ahead. I'm only. 580 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 6: No. 581 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: You know what. 582 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 7: That reminds me of the old Internet cartoon. No one 583 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 7: knows you're a dog on the Internet, And you are right, sir. 584 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 7: It is designed to prove that you are an actual 585 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 7: human being, and you know, not. 586 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 4: A robot, not a plot. 587 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 7: And there's still a good thing, and they're still very useful. 588 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 7: The problem is that bad guys are always finding ways 589 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 7: to exploit things that are useful and things that we're 590 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 7: familiar with. And so now what they're doing is using 591 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 7: this familiar tool of capture and then telling you to 592 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 7: behave differently. So instead of clicking on the fire hydrants 593 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 7: and then just clicking the box at the bottom that 594 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 7: says I am not a robot, they're asking people to 595 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 7: start engaging in keystrokes, entering text, doing things like hey, okay, 596 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 7: press Windows key and R and then control V. And 597 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 7: that is where you just want to stop in your tracks. 598 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 7: Anytime you start entering key strokes into capture, that's a 599 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 7: scam and that is designed to exploit a vulnerability and 600 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 7: you know, steal your information, maybe get your login and passwords. 601 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: Are these bad folks they haven't done enough to say, well, 602 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: why did you give us your password just to confirm 603 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: your identity? 604 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 7: Well, the thing is they will ask for everything that 605 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 7: they want. So while someone who's familiar with these things 606 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 7: may go, why would you ask me for that? My 607 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 7: my I R s log in when I'm not even 608 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 7: on the IRS site. There are it's so confusing and 609 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 7: so hard to keep up with how all of these 610 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 7: processes work that they're just hoping that they get enough 611 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 7: people who are unfamiliar that they'll go, WHOA, well, I 612 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 7: guess this is what I need to do in order 613 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 7: to whatever the transaction is or trying to complete, you know, 614 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 7: in order to do. 615 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 5: X, Y V. 616 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 7: And so they will keep asking you to you know, 617 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 7: for information to do certain things until you finally go, okay, 618 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 7: wait a minute, now, I have to stop now. But they, 619 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 7: you know, they have no morals. They feel like who 620 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 7: cares if I ask? If you give it? 621 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: Are from places like in and the Russian provinces that 622 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: none of us can pronounce, Kazakistan, all of those they're 623 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: not people for the most part, who are US based, 624 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: I believe. 625 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 7: I mean, there are some of course, there are domestic 626 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 7: fraud rings and they're domestic cyber criminals. But we have 627 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 7: to remember this is a global problem. So you perpetrators 628 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 7: are just all across the world, and you're right, a 629 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 7: lot of them are in countries where we don't have 630 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 7: any kind of extradition authority. So even if we were 631 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 7: able to trace it back and catch them, they can't 632 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 7: be brought to justice. 633 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: So I guess one of the things I want to 634 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: mention is I will get stuff which will say it's 635 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: addressed to your PayPal account has been charged for you know, 636 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: one thousand dollars. And of course I'm not the smartest 637 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: guy in the world, but I don't have a PayPal account. 638 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: Therefore I'm blocked, bucking, I'm deleting, and blocking. I think 639 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: that's really important for people to do, is to block it. 640 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: The problem is you can't block them all and they 641 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: keep coming at you. I get phone, you know, phone calls, 642 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: which is different obviously than the Internet. I'm sure that 643 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 2: being random dialed, you can tell the person is somewhere 644 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 2: out of the country. They it sounds like a boiler 645 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: room somewhere halfway around the world, and they're trying to 646 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: sell you whatever, okay, or they're trying to get information. 647 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: The problem is that on my home phone I don't 648 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: need I can block them on my cell phone, but 649 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: I can't block them on my home phone. What happened 650 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: to all the promises from Congress that were made several 651 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: years ago that they were going to block calls, you know, 652 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, solicitation phone calls during the dinner hour, because 653 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 2: that's when my phone really lights up. And you should 654 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: hear some of the things that I suggest to the 655 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: people on radio. Go ahead, what else? There's nothing we 656 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: could do there, I guess right. 657 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 7: Well, it becomes about your own behavior and just saying 658 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 7: if it's during dinner hour, I'm not even going to 659 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 7: pick up the phone. I'll let the answering machine get it. 660 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 7: I'll turn it off whatever it is, because there's a 661 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 7: difference between you know, policies can regulate the good guys, 662 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 7: legitimate businesses have to follow the do not call list, 663 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 7: you can be registered on the do. 664 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 5: Not Call list. 665 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 7: But the bad guys, the criminals don't care. They don't care, 666 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 7: so they're not going to follow policies and regulations. I 667 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 7: really tell people it's just about taking back, you know, 668 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 7: your own control and making that decision. I'm turning the 669 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 7: phone off during that hour. I don't have to engage 670 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 7: with everyone that calls, everyone that emails me, everyone that texts, 671 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 7: and then it can be really hard to set those 672 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 7: those bound because you're right, we are being deluged. 673 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: What I like to do is when people call me 674 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: and if I have the time, and sometimes I do 675 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: I'll say, I'm really glad you called me because I'm 676 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: taking a pole. Would you be willing to participate in 677 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: a poll? I turned the table on them. Or if 678 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: it's a poster calling me and I know it's one 679 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 2: of these what I call a push pole, we want 680 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: to ask you about your electric bill? Oh great, I say, 681 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm so happy. Where do I send the bill? Because 682 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm a professional poll taker and I cannot participate in 683 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: a poll unless i'm compensated. How can I send you 684 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: a bill? They don't know what to say. They hang 685 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: up on me, and I hope they then put my 686 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: number on This guy is nuts. Don't call him. And 687 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: I suggest that to all my friends my listeners. 688 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 7: The only thing I suggest when people say I want 689 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 7: to give it back to them, I want to give 690 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 7: them a hard time, is just remember the longer you're 691 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 7: engaged on those calls with bad guys, the more you 692 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 7: can create a vulnerability for yourself if you accidentally share something, 693 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 7: let something slip. So just you know, be careful with 694 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 7: that fun pathtime. Because look, it's very satisfying to get 695 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 7: these guys to hang up or lose their temper. I 696 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 7: fully agree, but it's also not for the faint of heart. 697 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 7: You do have to be careful you don't get them, 698 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 7: you know, Like I said, accidentally, all right, I gotcha? 699 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: Gotcha? So let me ask you this even real quickly, 700 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: because I've gone on longer than I should have, but 701 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: I love conversations with you. How could folks get information? 702 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 2: What's your website? How can they check out the Identity 703 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: Theft Resource Center. 704 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 7: I really want to encourage people to come to id 705 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 7: Theft Center dot org. We are a nonprofit. All of 706 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 7: the information on our website, in our health center, our 707 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 7: live chat is absolutely free, and if you want to 708 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 7: call us and speak to a real person, not abot, 709 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 7: you can call our toll free number which is eight 710 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 7: eight eight four hundred fifty five thirty, and we will 711 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 7: be happy to help you. Not just after something happens, 712 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 7: but if maybe you get one of these scams and 713 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 7: you're not sure is as a scam, you can call 714 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 7: us in the moment and we will walk you through 715 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 7: how you can verify something's legitimate or not. 716 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: Give that number one more time, real quickly. 717 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 8: One eight hundred eight eight eight eight eight eight yep 718 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 8: four hundred yep fifty five thirty perfect. 719 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 2: Even we'll talk again. Thank you so much. 720 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 7: It was a pleasure. Take care of everybody I got you. 721 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 2: When we get back, we are going to be talking 722 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: with a very interesting guest, Paul English, a guy from 723 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: West Roxby. He has done very well and does good 724 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: with what he has achieved. I will explain very interesting gentlemen, 725 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: Paul English coming back on the other side of the 726 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: nine o'clock News.