1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: It's NIC's Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: News Radio. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Well, here we go with another week of Nightside, and 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: this one, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a full week. It 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: is Monday night, January twelfth, twenty twenty five, not twenty 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty twenty six. What am I talking about? 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty six, the first time I have slipped. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: Have you written any checks this year that are dated 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five? I've written a couple. I'm not twenty 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: twenty five. So you know how it is. The year 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: turns and you just get a little You're got that 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: bad habit of writing twenty twenty five. So I just 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: changed it on my program sheet that I have in 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: front of me, and we're ready to go. Rob and 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: I will be here for a full week. I'm here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: Thursday Friday this week every night eight to midnight. Rob 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: is going to be here as well, Right Rob, You 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: can't hear, but Rob just said right. He'll be here 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: every Monday, every night this week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Friday from until midnight. Look, it's only about one hundred 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: hours now to midnight. As a matter for you can 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: do the math on that. I'm actually telling you the truth. 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: So one hundred hours from now and we'll be wrapping 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: this week, Rob, It's gonna go by crazy fast. We 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: have a great show tonight. We have four great guests 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: coming up, including a make good from Friday night. We'll 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: explain that. And then a little bit later on tonight, 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking with the former CEO and 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: executive director of the Massachusetts Convention Center Authority, Marcel Vernon, 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: who got a real raw deal and it's an amazing story. 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: This is his first media, you know, electronic media interview. 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk with Marcel Vernon as well as his attorney 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: on the case, Jeff Robbins, a great lawyer and if 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: you ever't need a good lawyer in Boston, you gotta 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: be talking to Jeff Robbins. And then at ten oh 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: five tonight we'll talk with the professor from Boston College 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: about what is going on in Iran Professor Banawas Easy 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: he is an Iranian scholar, has been in this country 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: for fifty five sixty years, sixty years at least spent 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: his childhood, I guess, and his teen years there, but 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: has Nobody knows more about Iran and what is going 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: on than our guest at ten o'clock. So if that 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: is of interest to you, and it should be, we 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: got the best guest tonight you could possibly imagine. We 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: have great guests this hour two. Let's start it off 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: with Paula Fleming, one of my favorite night side News 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: Update guests. Paula, of course, is with the Boston Better 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: Business Bureau. She's the chief Marketing and sales officer, and 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: she comes tonight with warnings. With New Year's resolutions, a 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: lot of people are looking to lose weight, and there's 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: a BBB Boston Better Business Bureau scam alert that advises 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: all to use caution when searching for weight loss products online. Paula, 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm not in the market for weight loss. I did 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: it with Awaken one to eighty. Not the hard way, 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: an easy way, but the traditional way. What are these 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: scams we're talking about? First of all, Happy New Year, Paula. 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: Thank you so much and thank you for having me. 58 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 3: Happy New Year to you and your listeners. 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: Dan right, so help us out here. We want to 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: avoid prob so as you do, want to avoid problems 61 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: for our listeners, go right ahead. 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, the better Business Freer across the United States 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: has received numerous reports of fraud tied to weight loss. 64 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: A lot of us have seen these GLP one products, 65 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: and we want every listener of yours to stay informed 66 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: and protected. So here's what you need to know. These 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: scammers are targeting consumers using fake ads. You'll see them 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: on social media when you're scrolling through social media, texts, calls, 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: and fully online pharmacies to sell these so called weight 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: loss products. So there are legitimate weight loss products we've 71 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: heard of. One such as will go v for example, 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: is a hot item right now. They're legitimately prescribed for 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: diabetes and weight management. They're in high demand, and scammers 74 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: are taking advantage of that. 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, what are they doing. 76 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: They are targeting people by using fake ads and deep fakes. 77 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: So they're using AI generated videos and images of celebrities. 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: Oprah Winfrey was one that unfortunately, her picture and videos 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: were deep faked and they were used to con people 80 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: into thinking that she was an you know, a user 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: of this and and it's unfortunate, but these products look 82 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: legitimate and they're not. And we we highly recommend that 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: if you're interested in one of these that you go 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: to a physician. 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: Paul, when you when I see these deep fake ads, 86 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: which I understand they're done with a lot of celebrities 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: they are how do they they make it sound you 88 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: see the picture of the celebrity, Uh, the celebrity is doing, 89 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: you know, would appear to be doing the talking on 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: their own voice. And it's right, it's a hit on shot. 91 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: It's not like a voiced over where they're someone imitating 92 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: the voice. How do they make them look so real? 93 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: These deep fakes? 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's exactly it AI. It's very difficult. It 95 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: does look like it is legitimate, and people, you know, 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: have trust in these celebrities and they might see an 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: actual legitimate weight loss journey for them, but it's not 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: tied to whatever ad you're clicking on. So if you 99 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: look at these ads, if the lips look slightly off, delayed, 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: or it's an unnatural look, it's a sign of an 101 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: AI or what we refer to as a deep fake technology, 102 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: and be suspicious if a famous person or doctor is 103 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: claiming a miracle weight loss result or pushing you to 104 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: buy immediately. Real medical professionals don't advertise prescriptions this way. 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: So take a step back and go ask for expertise, 106 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: feedback on what your goals are so they can outline 107 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: them and what is legitimate. We don't want you just 108 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: buying from a social media ad. 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I see these all the time, and I 110 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: must tell you I'm an inherently skeptical individual, but I 111 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: look at them and I try to find you know, tips, 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: But the words, it's their voice. I understand. They can 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: take a few words and then turn it into whatever, 114 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: you know, voice they want, whatever intonation they want. But 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: they then have this video where the person is looking 116 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: at you and the lips are moving, and you know 117 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: how when you watch sometimes I don't know, on television, 118 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: if an ad is not properly SYNCD, you'll say that 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: just looks a little off. 120 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: They don't look a little off. 121 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: They look better than ads that look a little off. 122 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: It's stunningly effective. And you're right. First of all, people 123 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 2: should be only going through legitimate medical resources. They should 124 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: not be you know, your doctor's office, get a prescription. 125 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: Don't don't buy this stuff. I mean, it's it's only 126 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: going to potentially harm you physically harm you. You don't 127 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: know what the what. You might just be buying placebos 128 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: which have no impact, but you might be buying stuff 129 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: that could actually harm you as well, and that's a 130 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: problem in. 131 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: Addition, absolutely, And that's you know to your point. Technology 132 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: can make scams look incredibly convincing. But remember real healthcare 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: doesn't come from a social media real so one end out, 134 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: slow down, check it out, protect yourself. Visit BBB dot 135 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: org to see who all the details about the scams. 136 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: We have the scam Tracker to help and research the company. 137 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: Please separately, not through the link in a video or 138 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: an incoming text or email. 139 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: Where do you do you have a scam checker on 140 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: your website? Did I hear you saying can they misunderstand that? 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 142 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: No, you did not misunderstand me. We actually have the 143 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: BBB Scam Tracker can be easily found at BBB dot 144 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: org forward slash Scam Tracker And this is where you 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: can look at scams either buy keyword or in your 146 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: geographic area, your community locally. So I would encourage your 147 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: listeners take some time and go dig around in there. 148 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: And if you've been a victim of a scam, that's 149 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: where you can also notify us and help education is key, 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: so we appreciate it. If people do let us know 151 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: if they've been a victim of a scam or a 152 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: potential victim of a scam. 153 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: A lot of people are embarrassed even to admit it. 154 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: But please follow Paula's advice. And again you can go 155 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: at any time to BBB for Better It's a Better 156 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: Business Bureau. I always sell the extra B in their 157 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: Boston but it's just BBB dot org slash scam tracker. 158 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: And if you are, if you have been scammed, look 159 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 2: let people know. Through the BBB you reach a lot 160 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: of people. You want to tell your friends, you want 161 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: to maybe call your local police department. There's just so 162 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: much of this stuff going on, Paula. It is frightening, 163 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: is frightening. Thank God for the BBB, for the Better 164 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: Business Bureau, for what you do. 165 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 166 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: Dan. All right, again, be careful, people, be careful. And 167 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: if you are using your credit card, you have to 168 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: be particularly credible because when you put those numbers in, 169 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: you just have no idea who was looking at those 170 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: numbers and what can happen. We live in this society 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: where we're gone from bartering. I'll give you water out 172 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: of my well if you help shoe my horses back 173 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: of the eighteen hundreds. I guess to now where it's 174 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: all electronic, and I know it sounds better, but it's 175 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: really not. In my opinion, we get back, I will 176 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: tell you what is better, and that is the twenty 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty six edition of the New England Patriots. 178 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: They just overwhelmed Los Angeles Chargers last night, and the 179 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: difference between the Patriots defail vents, you know, the Chargers 180 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: were pretty good. We're going to break it down with 181 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: Chris Price, Boston Globe sports reporter on towards the Super Bowl. 182 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: We're not gonna jinx anybody, but we'll talk with Chris 183 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: about what was the magic formula last night. It was 184 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: a great performance by the defense. I mean, justin Herbert 185 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: if he wasn't seeing ghosts last night at Chillette Stadium, 186 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't think any quarterback ever will. We'll be back 187 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: on Nightside with Chris Price of the Boston Globe recapping 188 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: last night's Pats win over the LA Chargers formally the 189 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: San Diego Chargers. 190 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with on Boston's news radio. 191 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: I think most of New England was watching the Patriots 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: demolish the Los Angeles Chargers last night. Nobody probably watched 193 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: it more closely than Chris Price of the Boston Globe 194 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: and Chris joins us. Now, Chris, I've watched a lot 195 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: of football games. I can go back to the days 196 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: of Bay p Really in the New England had the 197 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: Boston Patriots in the early nineteen sixties, and that was 198 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: a devastating performance by the Patriots last night. They looked 199 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: as good as any pro football team in my lifetime. 200 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean just dominated. The defense dominated the Chargers. Did 201 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: you expect the game to go like that at all? 202 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 5: I expected the Patriots to win, but I did not 203 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: expect the game to play out as it did. I 204 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: thought the Patriots to give him a couple of touchdowns 205 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 5: and they would be able to kind of impose their 206 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: will offensively on Los Angeles. But I did not anticipate 207 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: the defense fundamentally smothering what is a pretty good Chargers offense. 208 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: And so for me, Dan really in a lot of ways, 209 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 5: I don't want to kind of engage in hyperbole here, 210 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: but it reminded me a little bit of the two 211 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 5: thousand and one team that won a lot of games 212 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 5: on defense and special teams, and the offense did just 213 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 5: enough to kind of put some points on the board 214 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 5: and you know't allow them to come away with the wins. 215 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: So you know, it's a championship formula. So if I mean, 216 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 5: if they can, if they can keep on with that, 217 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be in good shape. 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Packers did that for years. Dallas did 219 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: that for years. I'll tell you what. It reminded me 220 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl, most recent Super Bowl that the 221 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: Patriots won, which I think was the when they I 222 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: think the school was identical sixteen to three when they 223 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: beat the Rams. 224 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was very similar because again, 225 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 5: you know, you have an overwhelming defense led by in 226 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 5: the case of last night, led by a guy like 227 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: Milton Williams who was absolutely tremendous. And again you get 228 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: just enough offense. You get the touchdown, the late touchdown 229 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: pass from Drake me to Hunter Henry which made it 230 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,239 Speaker 5: sixteen to three. You get three field goals from Andy Borgalas, 231 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 5: who was you know, on a weekend where it was 232 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 5: awful tough for other kickers, he was able to be 233 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 5: rock solid. So, like I said, it's a. It's a 234 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 5: really good formula. They need to be able to replicate 235 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 5: that moving forward, whether it's going to be Houston or 236 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh in the next round. They need to kind of 237 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: keep that moment him, you know, kind of spinning, spinning 238 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 5: in the right direction. 239 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: But Godless is a great story and that he had 240 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: a couple of miss field goals early in the season 241 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: and the Patriots were going to not change it up, 242 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: but Rabel must have seen something or you know, to 243 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: stick with the guy. He is now silent he is. 244 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: He's also an interesting guy too, because he came out 245 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 5: of the University of Miami, had a great college career, 246 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: and like you said, he kind of stumbled a little 247 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: bit and nearly going in. One of the things when 248 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 5: it comes to kicking field goals, so much of it, yes, 249 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 5: so much of it is is a confidence thing. And 250 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 5: he talked to me about this the other day. I 251 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 5: wrote a piece for the Globe about it. That the 252 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: confidence that Rabel showed in him after his early struggles. 253 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 5: You know, if you remember he made the big kick 254 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 5: down in Miami, he's made you know, he made a 255 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 5: big kick to help him beat Buffalo. He made a 256 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 5: fifty nine yarder the last week of the regular season. Yeah, 257 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 5: this this is the young man who's really been able 258 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 5: to kind of pick up on those good vibes from 259 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: the head coach. And you know, ever since then, he's 260 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: really kind of you know, he's really had a point 261 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: in the right direction, is he not? 262 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: I believe he's is. He's from South America originally. 263 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: His family from Venezuela. Actually, yeah, and so they hear. 264 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: That Venezuela right now, that's for sure. 265 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly exactly. His brother was a kicker, and so 266 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 5: kind of it runs in the family a little bit. 267 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, he's he's he's an interesting young man. 268 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: Well, people don't understand the pressure that's on kickers because 269 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: at that point, it's it's eleven, it's ten guys that 270 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: got to make sure everything gets blocked out, but they 271 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,479 Speaker 2: still got to kick the ball. The timing is so important, 272 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: and they got to look at look at the Giants 273 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: kicker that actually missed the ball. I've never seen that 274 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: happen in that game two or three weeks ago. 275 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's it's extraordinary because and also too of 276 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 5: these are guys who have oftentimes in these playoff games 277 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 5: that are decided by the closest of margins. They have 278 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: the fortune of the entire franchise in their hands. The 279 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 5: last regular season game, the Ravens kicker missed a chip 280 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: shot that would have given them a playoff berth and 281 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 5: would have knocked the Steelers out. The other night, the 282 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 5: green Bay kicker his missus played a rowan green Bay 283 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 5: losing to Chicago. So when you come across the kicker 284 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: who was able to execute in the biggest moments like 285 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: Boragalas has done or did on Sunday nights, you gotta 286 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: hold on to a guy. 287 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: Like that, yeah, or guys like growing the prior Patriots 288 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: kickers Vinit Terry and you know, I mean those those 289 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: guy those guys were priceless. They're absolutely justless to think about. 290 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: How about this? How about this Dan that twenty two 291 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: years ago this week Adam vin Terry kicked the deliver 292 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: the game winner in the snow against against the Raiders. 293 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: And so I think there was some good vibes in 294 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: the air when it came to Patriots and the Patriots 295 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: and the kicking game last night. 296 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: And then I got to touch on Justin Herbert. I mean, 297 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: we don't see him much because he's a California, you know, 298 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: LA quarterback. He looked horrible yesterday. He looked he it 299 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: looked like, find me the backup quarterback at you know, 300 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: Colorado State, And that's what I would have expected. He 301 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: looked like a backup quarterback yesterday. And I hate to 302 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: say that about a guy, but I mean his line 303 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: didn't help him. I mean, ye, look, well, who was it? 304 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: The which I guess was Sam Donold who were playing 305 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: for the Jets, said he used to see ghosts, ghosts. Yet, yeah, 306 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: that guy saw army of ghosts. 307 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah he was, he was seeing ghosts. I say, I'll 308 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: look a couple of different things. Figure into that. They're 309 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: starting running back on Marie Hampton was clearly hobbled with 310 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 5: an ankle injury. He was not one hundred percent. The 311 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 5: other thing too, Dan, they were playing with two backup tackles. 312 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 5: The left tackle and the right tackle were both backups, 313 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: and so I think that played a role in it 314 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: as well. But he certainly did not do himself any favors. 315 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: He didn't do a great job handling the pressure. The 316 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 5: Patriots came away with six sacts. Milton Williams got one 317 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: at the end of the game, you know, the kind 318 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: of the closer, you know, kind of a way way 319 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 5: to kind of close things out for the for the 320 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 5: Patriots in that one. But yeah, he did not do 321 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: a good job handling the pressure last night. 322 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: Okay, you got a choice between Houston and Pittsburgh. It's 323 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: going to be one or the other coming into Gillette 324 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: next weekend. Who do you want to say? 325 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 5: I think if you're a Patriots fan, you want to 326 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 5: see Pittsburgh. Houston's defense is really one of the best 327 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: in the league, you know, both against the running in 328 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: the past, so I think it's a tougher Yeah, in 329 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: the any other thing too. You want to get a 330 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: little revenge on the Steelers because the Steelers were the 331 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: one one of only a handful of teams this year 332 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 5: the beach. It came to Foxburn Beacher earlier in the season. 333 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 5: So I think for many reasons, the Patriots would rather 334 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 5: face the Steelers than the Texans next Sunday. 335 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: We'll see, Chris. I always appreciate you joining us, particularly 336 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: the night after a big victory, and I always appreciate 337 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: reading your pieces in the Globe. As I tell all 338 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: my buddies at the Globe, you know, Kevin, Paul DuPont, 339 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: and Yeah, Bob Bryan and sew to say, it's the 340 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: best part of the Boston Globe, the best part of 341 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: the Boston Globe, particularly on Sunday. I'll sit there with 342 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: this Globe Sports page on Sunday and spend an hour 343 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: just going over the Globe Sports page. As you probably 344 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: can tell, I'm a big sports guy. 345 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 5: I love it. 346 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Thanks, Chris, I appreciate it. 347 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 5: I look forward to talking to you again, to my friend. 348 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: Right back at your buddy, talk to you, sir Chris Price, 349 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: Boston Globe Sports Reporter. They are such a talented group 350 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: of people and they have been for years. Go back 351 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: to Lee Montfhil and all those those great writers, go 352 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: way back, way back. We get back. We're going to 353 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: talk about a really good idea and that is a 354 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: growing demand across the country for high schools to prep 355 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: high school students to get ready to manage their own 356 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: finances because real life is right around the corner. Going 357 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: to be talking with Billy Hensley, president and CEO of 358 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: a group called the National Endowment for Financial Education. It's 359 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 2: about time coming back on Nightside. 360 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio. 361 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: A lot of people graduate from high school for that man, 362 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: A lot of people graduate from college or graduate school 363 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: and don't know how to balance a checkbook, don't know 364 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: much about their finances at all. They borrow heavily from 365 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: credit card companies and pay only part of the credit 366 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: card bill every month. It creates night marriage of financial headaches. 367 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: With us. As Billy Hensley, he's a doctor, Billy Hensley, 368 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: President and CEO of the National Endowment for Financial Education, 369 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: nonprofit focused on financial education. First of all, Hensley tell 370 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: us exactly, it give us a little bit of background 371 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: on the National Endowment for Financial Education, and then I 372 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: want to talk about your group's efforts to respond to 373 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: the growing demand across the country for high schools to 374 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: prep their students to manage their financers in their real lives, 375 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: which are just in many cases just about to start. 376 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome and happy twenty twenty six. 377 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 4: Yes, happy twenty twenty six to you, and thank you 378 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: for bringing me on and talking about this. You know, 379 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 4: the National Endowment for Financial Education. We our mission is simple. 380 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: We champion effective financial education. And what we're trying to 381 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: do is remove any barriers for young people and adults 382 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: and you know, people of all ages really to have 383 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 4: access to this essential cornerstone life skill. And so we 384 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 4: do that through a lot of ways, you know, research 385 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: and data polling, which is some of what I'll mention 386 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: while we're chatting today. We also do this through advocacy work, 387 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: policy work, as well as awareness and keeping this top 388 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: at front end center for people of all ages. 389 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: So what what have you? Has your data in your 390 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: polling discovery? Are young men and women or teenagers of 391 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: eighteen year olders you know, who are graduating from high 392 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 2: school and perhaps beginning a career, are not still in 393 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: the educational system. How prepared are they to deal with 394 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: the reality of paying their own bills and of buying 395 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: their own products? 396 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: Right right? Well, you know, there's some positive news here 397 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: in our latest poll. Those who have taken a financial 398 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 4: education course are very happy they did. Eighty six percent 399 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: consider it a valuable to their financial lives, and those 400 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: who didn't and eighty two percent wish they had. So, 401 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: you know, and this matters because if you didn't take 402 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 4: the class of that population, seventy percent believe the quality 403 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: of their financial life would would be better. And nationally 404 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: this holds. This trend is very consistent with eighty three 405 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: percent of Americans saying their state should require a semester 406 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 4: or year long course to graduate. 407 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: OK, you will ask you about it. Go ahead, all 408 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: example of what what do kids learn in these these courses? Uh? 409 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: You know, most of them know how to I guess, 410 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: get on the internet and and and buy products, and 411 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: they know stuff about I don't know. You know venmo 412 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: that I don't know anything about. Uh, And they know 413 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: how to do some some transactions that I don't have 414 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: a clue about. But what are the courses in high school? 415 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: Is it generally junior or generally senior year or is 416 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: it before that? And what are they? What are they? 417 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: What are they? What are the basics they're learning? 418 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: Mostly the requirements I'll live within high school's age and 419 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 4: that can be anywhere from ninth grade, but most of 420 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 4: it is eleventh and twelfth grade. Now some states are 421 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: starting to on ramp this topic in middle school. And 422 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: you know, you can go all the way down to 423 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: preschool and learn some of the concepts. But we did 424 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: ask you know, what people want to see covered, what 425 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: is being covered in the classroom. And at the top 426 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: of the list, which is front of for us all 427 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: really when you think about things like inflation and so forth, 428 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: but spending and budgeting, saving, earning income, you know, how 429 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: you navigate the career ladder and move ahead investing, And 430 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: a topic that's especially important is understanding the financial system 431 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: and how you navigate that. You know, you were talking 432 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: about things that people don't know how to do. You 433 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: know when I came out of college in the nineties, 434 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: the financial products that were available then, in the way 435 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: that the system works, it's very different than it is now, 436 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: you know, to the examples you gave. And so we're 437 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: trying to create and advocate for financial education classes that 438 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 4: meet people where they are, which is covering topics that 439 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: are relevant and timely for them, that are talking about 440 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: things like Venmo and even bitcoin, so that we can 441 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: relate and give them the proper information to sort of 442 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: navigate through the noise. 443 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: If it were answer, let me ask his question because 444 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm older than you are. I graduated from college about 445 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: twenty years before you did, so don't do the math 446 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: publicly here. But you know, I actually still have a checkbook, 447 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: I actually still write checks. I prefer to write checks, 448 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: and I'm able to balance my checkbook and i'm i'm, 449 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm don't the kids coming out of high school that 450 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: they get do they have checks anymore? 451 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: Now? 452 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: Is it all venmos and things like that? 453 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: Well, you know, there is a there is a gap 454 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: between understanding that even though the debit card that proves 455 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 4: the purchase, that doesn't mean the money is going to 456 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: be there tomorrow when your rent hits, or your car 457 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: payment or your insurance hits. And so that, you know, 458 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: it's still essential to understand how do you keep track 459 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: of your money? You know, the vernacular of the checkbook 460 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 4: is sort of going away, but still being able to 461 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: monitor and budget. You know, it's a pairmit to living 462 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 4: your best financial life. 463 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I don't know. Look, I remember only 464 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: a few years ago when my bank would send me 465 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: back canceled checks, so you get your big statement every 466 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: month with some cancel checks. And then they started to 467 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: just put copies of the cancel checks. And now it's 468 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: all done just just electronically. And of course I talked 469 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: earlier this evening to a representative of the Boston Business 470 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: Bureau of the Better Boston Better Business Bureau and talked 471 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: about all sorts of scams that are now being done online. 472 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: It's almost as if we're pushing people away from things 473 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: like check books and all of that into the electronic 474 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: atmosphere where it's just you know, there are going to 475 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: be a lot of people, older people, younger people who 476 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: are going to be ripped off, and they're going to 477 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: lose thousands and thousands of dollars or tens of thousands 478 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: of dollars. I'm not happy about that, to be really 479 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: honest with you, I think the basic understanding is port. 480 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: I can remember being a little kid, and I can 481 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: remember going to the store, maybe the grocery store with 482 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: my parents, and I used to wonder. I watched my 483 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 2: father on my mom and over a twenty dollar bill 484 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: or a couple of twenty dollar bills, and they would 485 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: get more money back. Now, I wasn't small enough at 486 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: that age, which was probably three or four, to look 487 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: and say, well, at these they got in change. But 488 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: I used to say, wow, they gave them one bill 489 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: and they got three bills and some coins back, and 490 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, no, I'm serious. I was thinking 491 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: this is pretty cool, and no one explained it to me. 492 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: At some point, my parents did explain to me that 493 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: they were getting changed. But I have a firm recollection 494 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: in my mind of saying, wow, how cool is that 495 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: you go to the grocery store. But I was a 496 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: three year old, or a four year old or a 497 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: five year old max at the time. That's why financial literacy, 498 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: I think, is just so important, even at a young age. 499 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: You know, I know that if they were retiring the penny, 500 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: we're not going to probably pretty soon have dollar. Maybe 501 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna they want to get rid of cash. I 502 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: know that. I mean, this the scary new world we're 503 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: going into. What do you think I mean, are you 504 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: somebody who feels how it's just it's just evolution. We've 505 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: gone from bartering and as I said earlier, you know, 506 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: you'll you shoe my horses and I'll I'll allow you 507 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: to take one of the horses to ride to town. 508 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: And now we're cash, right, cash used to be kidding 509 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: it's it's not even a prince anymore. What's going on? 510 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 4: Well, you know, the financial system will evolve whether we 511 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 4: want it to or not. So what we want is empowered, 512 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: thoughtfully engaged youth as they come out of you know, 513 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 4: sort of their homes and at school, out of these 514 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 4: protective environments, if you will, so that they know how 515 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: to sort through the noise. And you and I know 516 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: there's a lot of noise out there, and if we 517 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that financial education does, 518 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: and it's measured and proven many times, is that it 519 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: builds confidence in addition to the knowledge. So then you 520 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 4: will attack and kind of go forward with this topic 521 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: in a way that you feel confident. And you know, 522 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: we've got to make sure and assure that we're not 523 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: just at thirty states. We're hearing buzz about thirty two 524 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: states that are now added this as a graduation requirement. 525 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: We need to wake up the folks in Massachusetts in particular, 526 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: because there's not a graduation requirement there and you have 527 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 4: almost a million students that are missing out on this 528 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 4: and they're not going to be ready if we don't 529 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 4: take action and make demands and ask the state legislators 530 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 4: and the educators and principles and districts, you know, why 531 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: are you withholding this essential topic from our young people 532 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: so that they know how to navigate this financial landscape 533 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: when they are launching into life, and that that's how 534 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: we see it. You know, it's going to change, so 535 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: let's give people the tools to navigate that change, whether 536 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: whether it's sort of through hard cash or whether it's 537 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: through digital financial transactions, whatever, that is. What we want 538 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: is confident, thoughtfully trained folks who will know how to 539 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: ask for help when they need it. They'll raise their 540 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: hand and they're not ashamed to try to figure out, 541 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: you know, the right answer. And let's demistify the topic, 542 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: and let's engage parents in this and make sure that 543 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 4: every school in your entire listening area is saying, hey, 544 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: this is important, we need to do this. 545 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, You're going to have a real 546 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: problem with the Massachusetts legislature. They are not interested in 547 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: this topic. No, I'm serious. If you if you end 548 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: up coming up here to testify, I'll put you on 549 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: a few nights before and we'll we'll preview your testimony. 550 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: But now our legislature, this is not a priority with 551 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: the Massachusetts legislature. And it's got nothing to do with politics. 552 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: It's got to do their Their interest is is returning 553 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: to office. They are not interested in looking at something 554 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: like this as a rule. As a rule, we have 555 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: an overwhelmingly democratic legislature and the Republicans are ineffectual because 556 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: there are so few of them, and the Democrats don't 557 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: have to respond on to this because they have such 558 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: a majority. So you got a real hill to climb 559 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts. 560 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: But if we can help you out, yeah, yes, I 561 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: would love it. I mean, this is happening by with 562 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: bipartisan support in the other state and the others almost unanimous. 563 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Others. 564 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: We hope they can. Yeah, a good example. You know, 565 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: maybe there's some fear missing out, but we do know 566 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: that Governor Healley established a K twelve Graduation Council, and 567 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: the council did back in October. You're after a report 568 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: that recommends this. Let's hope, you know, we keep talking 569 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: about it and maybe they will finally listen. 570 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about it anytime you want, and if 571 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: you are going to will will help you out because 572 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: it's something that I firmly believe in. My children both 573 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: went to private schools because I did not have enough 574 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: faith in the public education system here in Massachusetts. And 575 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: the teachers' union is the one that decides what gets 576 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: done and what does get done. And believe me, the 577 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: teachers union up here is very strong and they have 578 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: their own priorities, and I do not think this is 579 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: one of their priorities. So we may have a fight 580 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: in our hands, and I'll be happy to help you. 581 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I appreciate that. 582 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to doctor Hensley. Okay, thank you very much. 583 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: But thank you for having me see anytime. 584 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: All right, all right, when we get back here on 585 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: Night Side, we're going to do a rare redo, uh 586 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: a rain check for doctor Doug Coward. We had a 587 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: little bit of technical issues the other night. By the way, 588 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: I was mistaken. It was not the problem of WBZ. 589 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: There apparently was a national grid transformer that had impacted 590 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: a lot of businesses in the area. We were able 591 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: to work around it, but we lost our interview with 592 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: doctor Doug Coward, of veterinarian from California, who has written 593 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: a book in healing both ends of the leash. I 594 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: told him what happened. Back. Promise has made, Promises kept. 595 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: Right after this break on Nightside with doctor Doug Coward. 596 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 597 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: Well, we had an interruption of an interview from last 598 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: Friday night rejoining us now as doctor Doug Coward his book. 599 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: He's a veterinarian in Orange County, California, his book in 600 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: Healing Both Ends of the Leash. I told you we'd 601 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: have you back, doctor Coward. How are you. 602 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 6: I'm good, Thank you. I started, I pushed the wrong 603 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: button and cut you off. 604 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: It was a national bridge, his mind is standing. He 605 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: was a transformer of a national grid transformer. I thought 606 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: it was our own equipment, and I was mistaken on that, 607 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: but it was very frustrating. So tell us about your 608 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: book in Healing Both Ends of the League of the Leash, 609 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: how real food, rest movement, and connection to the natural 610 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: world can restore vitality to animals and people alike. 611 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 6: Go ahead, Yeah, it's a long story. I went to 612 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 6: vet school to be a wildlife vet, but there weren't 613 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 6: any jobs, so I ended up working for a wildlife dermatologist. 614 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 6: Mostly what we saw were dog or cats, but he 615 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 6: stressed that we should feed the certain food that he liked, 616 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 6: and I did see some dramatic improvements just changing food. 617 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 6: It was a commercial food. But then I was visiting 618 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 6: a winery with some family and saw the hope This 619 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 6: dog I'd ever seen running around like and swallowed a 620 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 6: jet engine and when I combat it to the wine corper. 621 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 6: What a beautiful dog she had. She said, if the 622 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 6: stupid bests have their way, he'd be dead, and to 623 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 6: make a runcle dog had hip dysplasia totally crippled it 624 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 6: four months and we had no solution other than told 625 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: her to get a new dog, the vetinary profession or 626 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 6: get new hips. And so this is in nineteen eighty eight. 627 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 6: She's in passer Robos, which is a horse country, and 628 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 6: she heard of a human chiropractor who had a reputation 629 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 6: for healing. So when I called the human chlorpractor up, 630 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 6: she just lit in the van, said I get them 631 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 6: off that stupid food, your stupid bet seed them. Then 632 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 6: you give them drugs that make them worse, and that's insane. 633 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 6: I felt so stupid. I go, I just graduated from 634 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 6: bed school. They tell us to do surgery. And so 635 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 6: she gave me read me the Riot Act again and 636 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 6: then she felt compassion for me because I was clueless. 637 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 6: And that's something quick inside, because I've seen wild bites 638 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 6: in Africa, India and Nepal, Indonesia when I was traveling 639 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 6: back from Australia where had been playing basketball after college, 640 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 6: and wild animals eat real food and they look great. 641 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 6: So I had five dogs scheduled for new hips, and 642 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 6: we had a huge waiting list in the eighties. So 643 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 6: I called them all up and said, I don't know 644 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 6: if this will work, that you be interested in trying 645 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 6: to feed food from a refrigerator, and they all said, 646 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 6: we'll do anything to get our pets out of pain. 647 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 6: And in thirty days, every single one was running and jumping, 648 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 6: never needed surgery, never needed medicine for the rest of 649 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 6: their lives. And I was just astonished. 650 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: So when you say real food you're talking about, I 651 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: guess you know food that you would feed them, vegetables, 652 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: maybe fruit as well as you know meat, you know, beef, turkey, 653 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: things like that that most people would have in the 654 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: or many people would have been their refrigerator. 655 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's correct. Essentially, dogs have been living with us 656 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 6: for about twenty thousand years, eating whatever we gave them, 657 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 6: so they were used to eating our food, and we 658 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 6: were taught only scientifically formulated food, which turns out to 659 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 6: have some waste spots generated by the cooking process that 660 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 6: damaged both the friendly bacteria in the intestine now everybody 661 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 6: knows are super important and then also can damage the 662 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 6: liver and kidneys in the long run, so so many 663 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 6: good things. 664 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 5: Hap. 665 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: I got to tell you one of the things that 666 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: I had Kevili king chile Spaniel for I guess ten years, 667 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: well I know ten years. And he used to love 668 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: boy's head honey maple turkey, which was my favorite, and 669 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 2: I'd chop it up and slice it up and drop 670 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: it into his food. Now there are some foods out 671 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: commercially that are a little higher end, and their argument 672 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 2: is that it's much more like real food. I'm not 673 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: looking to you endorse any products, but is that a 674 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: step in the right direction, or do you think people 675 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: just should work out out of whatever they have in 676 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: their refrigerator? 677 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 6: Oh? Absolutely, those are at least didn't exist, you know, 678 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 6: forty years ago when I was a young vat. But now, god, 679 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 6: there's you know, dozens of foods I see in the 680 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 6: refrigerator or refrigerator at grocery stores costco, and those are great. 681 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 6: The least expensive way, and sort of a fun way, 682 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 6: is just do the cooking yourself. And I'm a lazy guy. 683 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 6: I want to go surfing in the morning, so I 684 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 6: don't want to spend a lot of time cooking for 685 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 6: my dog. But it takes about two minutes to reheat 686 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 6: some vegetables and the meat is only cooked for about 687 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 6: a minute at the most. It's not like we eat 688 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 6: it where it's going to be thoroughly. 689 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: I used to do that with burger. Just boil the 690 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: burger in some hot water and it gets great. But 691 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: you don't have to boil it a long time. Look. Yeah, 692 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: there's so much more to talk about here. People have 693 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 2: to buy your book. The book is called in Healing 694 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 2: Both Ends of the Leash by doctor Doug Coward. How 695 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: do they get it Amazon? I assume for sure. Any 696 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: other ways. 697 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just published by some surfers and Carlsbad, California, 698 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 6: water Side, So it's available on Amazon. And if any 699 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 6: if any book sell, I'm donating the proceeds. And I 700 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 6: think you mentioned you have one. Is that the Shadow 701 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 6: Fund Shadow. 702 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that it's shadowfundne dot org if you want 703 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: to check it out Shadow fund ne dot org. It's 704 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: a great been around about fifteen years, done a lot 705 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: of good with that organization. 706 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 6: I was impressed. I'll be donating tomorrow. Super impressed with 707 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 6: the law school and the veterinarians who created it. 708 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't the veterinarians. It was the assistant dean 709 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: of the law school. Her name is Diane Sullivan, and 710 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: she I call her Saint Diane. I mean, you talk 711 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: about Saint Francis as sissy. Saint Diane Sullivan is a 712 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: modern day Saint Francis, a sissy. Trust me on that one. Okay, 713 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: get Rob will give you my direct line. Rob, give 714 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: doctor Coward my direct line. So if you need to 715 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: call me, Doug, if you don't mind me calling you Doug, 716 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: I can fill you in on that information on it. 717 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: But that's not my purpose. My purpose is to try 718 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: to help you sell some books. And I apologize for 719 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: the mess up last night, last Friday night, and I'm 720 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: so glad we got you back tonight. 721 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 6: That's such an honor to speak. But there was someone 722 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 6: who's spoken to numerous presidents and I'm just a lowly 723 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 6: little shut down. And for all you do and for 724 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 6: your incredible work, again, I am so honored, and I 725 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 6: appreciate any minutes you spend with me. Thank you, Okay, 726 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 6: thank you. 727 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: Doctor Coward. I appreciate it again. It's in healing both 728 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 2: ends of the leash. It's good for humans. And it's 729 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: good for their pets. Check it out. If you have 730 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 2: a pet, Doctor Doug Coward, Rob make sure you give 731 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: doctor Coward my phone numbers. We'll be back right after 732 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 2: the nine o'clock news here on Nightside, and I promise 733 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: you we have a great show for you tonight. Coming up, 734 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: we're going to talk with Marcel Vernon, former head of 735 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 2: the MCCA, a MCCA, and you're going to talk about 736 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: problems there, real problems. Uh, this is going to be 737 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: a compelling hour. Stay with us.