WEBVTT - Guarding Against Satanists

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, by the way, another very good movie, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in the topic, is Rosemary's Baby, about Satanism, devil worship,

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<v Speaker 1>sacrificing children to Lucifer. It's directed by Roman Polanski. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's maybe the best movie he ever made. It

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<v Speaker 1>stars Mia Farrow, one of her best roles, and John Cassavetes,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think is a phenomenal, phenomenal actor. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the characters, the plot, the storyline, the tension. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very different from eyes wide shut, which is full of

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<v Speaker 1>gratuitous nudity, nudity, forgive me. This one is a very

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<v Speaker 1>different film. I don't think there's any nudity at all

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<v Speaker 1>and very little violence, but just a really, just a

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<v Speaker 1>riveting and at times creepy film, but it, you know, it,

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<v Speaker 1>and profound in its own way. So anyway, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>movie about the horrors of Satan worship and, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>satanic rituals.

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<v Speaker 2>617-266-6868.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Let's go to Verna in Arlington. Thanks for holding

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<v Speaker 1>Verna and welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi there, Jeff. It's good to talk with you. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for this subject. Um, A lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't touch it, very obviously. My parents, my family, my

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<v Speaker 3>mother's side of the family were involved in Satanism blatantly.

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<v Speaker 3>As a child, my sister and I were exposed to

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<v Speaker 3>it and brought into a lot of the activities. This

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<v Speaker 3>is very real stuff. We grew up in the Philadelphia area,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was where we were taken in to where

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<v Speaker 3>the caves, there were caves in the woods, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were exposed to it and Um, they do child sacrifice. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, I was probably going to be sacrificed too,

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<v Speaker 3>but I created a problem. So they had to throw

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<v Speaker 3>me off the altar. Um, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 3>it's very real. Uh, and it used to be underground

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<v Speaker 3>cause they didn't want people to know about it, but

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<v Speaker 3>now it has come up on the surface. Um, in

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<v Speaker 3>recent years, Rosemary's baby. I remember seeing that as well. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting movie. Um, But there was a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>My uncle and my aunt were involved in it. They

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<v Speaker 3>were witches and... What's the other word now? It's been

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<v Speaker 3>a long time since I.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Wiccans, right? Wiccans?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no.

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<v Speaker 3>My uncle was a... My aunt was a witch. My

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<v Speaker 3>uncle was the male version. I forget the name of

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<v Speaker 3>it now. It's been a long time since I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Talked about this.

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<v Speaker 5>A warlock?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, basically, like a wizard. A wizard.

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<v Speaker 4>I got you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So....

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind me asking, and if I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>too personal, please tell me, were you ever abused because

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<v Speaker 1>of this or hurt as a child, like physically hurt?

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<v Speaker 1>I know psychologically, this is horrible, but physically, did they

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<v Speaker 1>ever do anything to you? And, you know, as part

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<v Speaker 1>of their devil worship or their, you know, their Satanism.

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<v Speaker 3>As I mentioned, they wanted to sacrifice me, but I

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<v Speaker 3>did something that, um, ruined the, uh, occasion. But, um,

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<v Speaker 3>other than that, I mean, there was physical, emotional, sexual

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<v Speaker 3>abuse in my childhood. My parents, my parents were looking

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<v Speaker 3>for answers in all the wrong places until they finally

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<v Speaker 3>came to Christ and came to Christianity. Um, but they

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<v Speaker 3>were like way out there. So some, but not that much, um,

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<v Speaker 3>in that sense, but the, um, why.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are Satanists so obsessed with sacrificing children? you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the altar to Lucifer. What is it with child sacrifice?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that so special? Why does that take such

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<v Speaker 1>a huge, why does it play such a prominent role,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, say in the church of Satan or when

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<v Speaker 1>they perform these, you know, satanic black masses? Why children?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do they believe the devil wants children? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason for that?

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<v Speaker 3>That the blood sacrifice of children is powerful. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>blood that they're looking for. And if in the ancient rituals,

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<v Speaker 3>if you remember the sacrifice to Molech, the child sacrifice

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<v Speaker 3>in the early centuries way back, it's always been a

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<v Speaker 3>powerful thing. So again, it's the blood, but the blood

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<v Speaker 3>of children, the innocence of children is basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Where it's the innocence of children. In other words, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why the blood of a child, say, is worth more

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<v Speaker 1>than that of a young girl or, sorry, a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman or a young man or an elderly person, correct?

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<v Speaker 1>That it's the innocence of the child, correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, very much so, Jeff. So, yeah, no, this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is very real. And my mother and father, as I said,

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<v Speaker 3>they were looking for answers in all the wrong places.

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<v Speaker 3>But they realized the wrongness of this. In fact, my

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<v Speaker 3>father got out of the satanic cult activities. when he

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<v Speaker 3>saw what they were really doing. Because my father was

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<v Speaker 3>a survivor of the Armenian Genocide. And so it was

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<v Speaker 3>almost like logical that they would look into this to

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<v Speaker 3>some extent because they turned away from God in their

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<v Speaker 3>early years, my mother as well. So anyway, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a very powerful thing to talk about and for people

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<v Speaker 3>to know about, absolutely to know about. And to be

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<v Speaker 3>aware of this. so that you don't get sucked into

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<v Speaker 3>it as well. Because they start out with making things

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<v Speaker 3>look very attractive. They talk about, oh, this power, that power.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember talking to a young man years ago. I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing work, and he said, and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why would you even be interested in this? He said,

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<v Speaker 3>for the power and the control. And I said, what

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<v Speaker 3>about the highest power in the world, the real God?

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<v Speaker 3>And he just kind of stood there. So it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Power.

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<v Speaker 7>Verna.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for the courage and sharing this story.

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<v Speaker 1>And okay. Dave in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, good morning, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you, Dave? I'm good, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Rosemary's baby. I know. I don't think I've ever

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<v Speaker 6>actually seen the movie, but the book, I'm a big

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<v Speaker 6>book reader. The book was really good. You know, so

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to say that, um you know what dan

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<v Speaker 6>was saying the um the witch that he was talking

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<v Speaker 6>about yes yeah i i know her personally i'm not

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<v Speaker 6>gonna say any names uh but i know her personally

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<v Speaker 6>and he says it goes back 25 years it actually

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<v Speaker 6>goes back more like 40 something years because i've known

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<v Speaker 6>her since the 80s she's actually a pretty a decent

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<v Speaker 6>person but she is very into that stuff but Um,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean? She's not, she's nothing to

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<v Speaker 6>be like scared over. That's just, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't, I don't agree with her, but you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean? She's not a bad person.

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<v Speaker 1>She's essentially, she's harmless, right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, she really does believe what she does.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean? But the, you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've never been involved in, in any of like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, what she actually does. But like I said, I've, um,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean? I've, I've seen, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've been around her enough times, like I said,

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<v Speaker 6>to know her and everything like that. You know, she's

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<v Speaker 6>a decent person, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Dave, I mean, I'm just speaking from the heart, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm no tough guy, you know, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on a service call and I got to go to

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<v Speaker 1>someone's house and I go and I see a hearse

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<v Speaker 1>in the backyard and gargoyles and I walk in and

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<v Speaker 1>I see a woman literally as a witch, even with

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<v Speaker 1>the vampire fangs and, You've got coffins downstairs. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I'm like, listen, my beeper is

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<v Speaker 1>going off. I got an emergency. That's what I'd be saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm sorry. I got to take another. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to get out of here. I got to take

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<v Speaker 1>another call, you know, because I'm thinking, is she going

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<v Speaker 1>to hex me? Is she going to cast a spell?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and if she said, hey, would you like

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<v Speaker 1>a drink? You know, would you like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee or dairy? Would you like a coffee? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking like, which is brewery she can cocktail? No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm good. No, no, please, I'm good. So, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I would hightail it out of there. You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>all I'm thinking is I could end up in one

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<v Speaker 1>of those coffins, you know? But you're saying you've known

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<v Speaker 1>her now for a long time. She believes it. She

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<v Speaker 1>really is a witch. She's into witchcraft. But when everything

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<v Speaker 1>is said and done, she's really harmless, correct?

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<v Speaker 6>As he mentioned, she's an artist. I mean, she is

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<v Speaker 6>a phenomenal artist.

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<v Speaker 5>The paintings she.

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<v Speaker 6>Does, like you said, it's like they did Walk Off

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<v Speaker 6>the Pitch, right? I mean, she is absolutely an incredible artist.

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<v Speaker 6>She also does other things. kinds of art as well

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<v Speaker 6>that's how i know her and um you know i've

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<v Speaker 6>known her for a really really long time yeah and

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<v Speaker 6>here's a little short thing she's a vegan as well

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<v Speaker 6>and so when i would see her i would hope

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<v Speaker 6>it was like a rare roast beef sandwich just to

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<v Speaker 6>get her pissed off.

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<v Speaker 1>At me and aren't you afraid like she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>cast a spell on you or something I wouldn't play

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<v Speaker 1>around with that. You know what I mean? That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying my instinct is just, you know, ma'am, have

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<v Speaker 1>a very nice day. And I'm gone. Because all I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking is if I'm, you know, joking, teasing, trolling her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I I don't want some spell. Uh, you're not,

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<v Speaker 1>I take it. You're not worried. Uh, you're not worried, Dave.

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<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, but I used to do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when I was a younger guy, I used to do that. But,

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<v Speaker 6>and I wanted to mention too, on the people in like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Iowa and stuff like that. Like I am

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<v Speaker 6>not forward at all. I, I would say, um, and

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<v Speaker 6>baptized again back in 2013. And again, I don't agree

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<v Speaker 6>with them at all, but I don't really know what

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<v Speaker 6>you can do about it because they do have the

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<v Speaker 6>freedom of religion and it's one of them slippery slopes.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean? Like if we shut them down,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Democrats take, well, then what? They're shutting down,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Catholics, you know, Episcopal, whatever, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean? I just, it's one of those slippery slopes,

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<v Speaker 6>you know?

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Dave, let me ask you point blank. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the church of Satan, is it a religion? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the issue to me. It's not, it's,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a, yeah, we just lost Dave and I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>we lost Dave, but, uh, you know, to me it's

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<v Speaker 1>a cult. It's a, it's a cult that worships evil.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's more evil than the devil, you know? So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's, to me, that's why they don't fall

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<v Speaker 1>under the first amendment, but, you know, let that go.

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<v Speaker 1>We can agree to disagree. Uh, Donald in Boston. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for holding, Donald.

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<v Speaker 4>And welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Dave. Great show. Thank you. In the 1960s, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a TV show called MASH about the Korean War.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a character on there, Radar. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was from Itumbra, Iowa. He would always talk about Itumbra, Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying now is, what would Radar think? Again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a fictional TV show. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>ever saw the show, but he was from that area.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on the show in Korea. So that's just

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<v Speaker 2>a comment there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Donald, I used to watch that. I watched MASH

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<v Speaker 1>when I grew up. I loved it. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite shows. Again, if I can be brutally

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, like I'm in the confessional, when I

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<v Speaker 1>think of Iowa, I've never been to Iowa, but when

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Iowa... I think of corn. I think

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<v Speaker 1>of the first caucus in the primaries. I think of

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<v Speaker 1>ethanol because it's always such an issue when you go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Iowa, when you talk about Iowa, Iowa politics.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think of farmers. And honestly, I think of

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<v Speaker 1>good salt of the earth people. That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them are churchgoing and community, family-oriented people. They

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be very patriotic, culturally, socially, more on the

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<v Speaker 1>conservative side, but just good, decent, wholesome, hardworking people. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think of Iowa. And I think that's why,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to bring it all full circle, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reason why I think this story has just

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<v Speaker 1>popped and it's just captured not just the country, but

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways the world's imagination, because the last place

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<v Speaker 1>you would ever think that there would be Satanism or

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<v Speaker 1>devil worship or, you know, a prayer, an invocation at

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<v Speaker 1>a city council meeting, you know, would be in the heartland,

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<v Speaker 1>would be in Iowa. Salem, Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood, California?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, Mamdani's New York? Definitely. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are parts of the country where you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see it. You know, I believe it. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>shocks me anymore. But, you know, Iowa? You know, no.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're clearly making a play for Iowa. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go on what I've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the show. But, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>start penetrating the state capital and you put up that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that statue of that pagan deity... Baphomet, who

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<v Speaker 1>apparently they worship, the satanic temple. And you get that in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you start going after children and their after-school programs. No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>And the money now that's behind them? No, no. There's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's something, forgive the pun, but there's something

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<v Speaker 1>satanic going on. Monica in Lowell. Thanks for holding, Monica,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome. Monica, do we have you? Okay, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>if we can reconnect with Monica. So anyway, look, just

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<v Speaker 1>to put a bow on everything, because what is very

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<v Speaker 1>clear is, and you see it with Krista Pike, and

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<v Speaker 1>you see it now with the attention and now the

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<v Speaker 1>cult-like figure status that she's getting. You know, she is

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<v Speaker 1>an open devil worshiper. And after the botched execution, now

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying it's Satan that saved her. That Lucifer

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<v Speaker 1>does give you power, extraordinary power, to even survive two

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<v Speaker 1>lethal injections. So what you're seeing now, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>something to me unprecedented, is that devil worship... the cult

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<v Speaker 1>of Satan, this satanic church, is now no longer just underground.

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<v Speaker 1>As Verna said, it was in the woods, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they did it to her. It was in the shadows.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the caves. It was in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at, you know, movies that have been

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<v Speaker 1>made about it, it's in rich people's mansions. It's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>behind closed doors.

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<v Speaker 5>No longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're trying to be normalized and they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go mainstream. And that is very dangerous. But what it

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<v Speaker 1>also shows is that there's a greater level of tolerance

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<v Speaker 1>now and even support. And why is that? To me,

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<v Speaker 1>the one place we should never go is towards the

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<v Speaker 1>devil and making devil worship, you know, normal. I mean, aye, aye, aye. Agree, disagree. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got Monica. All right, Monica in Lowell. Thanks for holding, Monica,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you hear me, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you. Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm excited I got back, and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 5>speak so loud or fast, but this is a very

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<v Speaker 5>interesting story I have.

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<v Speaker 4>To tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>Many years ago, when I got married, my husband, a

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<v Speaker 3>friend wanted to get, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>We were invited to a wedding. And these are all

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<v Speaker 5>smart people, mathematicians, engineers, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And when we went to the wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Monica, can you do me a favor? We're up against

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<v Speaker 1>a break. I don't want you to rush your story.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear this.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Monica's going to tell us a story. Okay, it appears

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<v Speaker 1>that we've lost Monica. Okay, so, all right, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>the devil, speaking of something truly satanic and diabolical, on

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<v Speaker 1>November 5th, 2009, Nadal Hassan, a member of the U.S. military,

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<v Speaker 1>a jihadist, went into Fort Hood, Texas, And as American

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers were getting ready to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were at that time utterly unarmed and defenseless,

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<v Speaker 1>Nadal Hassan turned not just on his fellow Americans, but

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<v Speaker 1>on his fellow U.S. Army members. And he shouted out,

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<v Speaker 1>Allahu Akbar. Akbar. And then they could hear the bullets. Boom, boom, boom.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the greatest domestic terrorist atrocities took place

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<v Speaker 1>on American soil. 13 U.S. soldiers were murdered. Countless others wounded,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them badly maimed. Nidal Hassan was an Islamist,

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<v Speaker 1>an Islamic Islamist terrorist. And what was most shocking was

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<v Speaker 1>that for years he had been increasingly becoming more anti-American.

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<v Speaker 1>People could see and notice his growing hatred for the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. For example, just before the massacre, And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, he kept getting promoted as he got more

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<v Speaker 1>radical and outspokenly anti-American and pro-Islam, that he was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to 25 mental health professionals at Fort Hood

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<v Speaker 1>about mental health, about treating soldiers and service members coming

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<v Speaker 1>back from all those wars with PTSD, with mental health issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of talking about mental health, the entire seminar

0:19:54.460 --> 0:20:01.030
<v Speaker 1>was him lecturing about the greatness and the virtues of

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<v Speaker 1>Islam and Allah. And yet nobody complained, nobody said anything.

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<v Speaker 1>until that fateful day when it was too late. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though this occurred in 2009, finally, finally, justice is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be served. President Trump gave the green light

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<v Speaker 1>to Secretary of War Pete Hegseth to finally go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and execute Nidal Hassan for his terrorist atrocities and treason

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<v Speaker 1>against the United States. And so Trump personally approved that

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<v Speaker 1>Nidal Hassan will be executed by firing squad. And he

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<v Speaker 1>will be executed by firing squad December 3rd of this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's going to be done at the very place

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<v Speaker 1>where he committed his Islamic terrorist massacre, Fort Hood. It's

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<v Speaker 1>even going to be done at the exact same time

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<v Speaker 1>that he unleashed his rampage and bloodbath, 1 p.m. So

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<v Speaker 1>at 1 p.m. local time, at Fort Hood, the site

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<v Speaker 1>of his atrocity, Nidal Hassan will be put to death

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<v Speaker 1>by firing squad. And not only will he be put

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<v Speaker 1>to death by firing squad, and already the left and

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats are going absolutely berserk. Okay, berserk. But guess what?

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Pete Hegseth said, yep, it's going to be televised. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're going to show it on NBC

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<v Speaker 1>or CBS or Fox or CNN, but what he means

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<v Speaker 1>by televised is it's going to be streamed. So on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone, on your laptop, on your computer, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see Nadal Hassan be executed and shot to pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>you can. Listen now to Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War,

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<v Speaker 1>saying not only will he be shot and executed by

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<v Speaker 1>firing squad, but we are going to live stream it

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<v Speaker 1>so the whole country and the whole world can see.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what happens if you ever target American troops

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<v Speaker 1>or American citizens on American soil, especially at a U.S.

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<v Speaker 1>military base. This will be your fate. Roll cut 15,

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<v Speaker 1>a mic.

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<v Speaker 8>Execution by firing squad. Army major betrays his country, radical Islamist,

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<v Speaker 8>kills a bunch of Americans at Fort Hood. Of course

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to do it at Fort Hood. We're going

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<v Speaker 8>to do it on a Thursday. We're going to do

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<v Speaker 8>it at 1 o'clock, which is when he did it.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's going to be soldiers with rifles executing the

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<v Speaker 8>firing squad. It hadn't been since World War II, since

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<v Speaker 8>we've done that. Well, I kind of like the mentality

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<v Speaker 8>we had in World War II, which was win, which

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<v Speaker 8>was understand when the enemy attacks you, you stand your ground.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was a radical Islamist terror attack. Remember what

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<v Speaker 8>Obama called it? Workplace violence? I mean, that's what we're

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<v Speaker 8>up against. That's the worldview we're up against is workplace violence.

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<v Speaker 4>CVE.

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<v Speaker 7>We know what it is.

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<v Speaker 8>It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks.

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<v Speaker 8>And so he's going to get a firing squad of soldiers,

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<v Speaker 8>as it should be. And we'll make sure that people

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<v Speaker 8>are able to watch it, that it's public, because people

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<v Speaker 8>need to understand that there's serious consequences for these types

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<v Speaker 8>of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want my take? Here's my take. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I want to open it up to you, the great

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<v Speaker 1>audience of Kunar Country, 617-266-6868. He was an army major.

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<v Speaker 1>He betrayed his oath. He betrayed his command. He betrayed

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<v Speaker 1>his soldiers. He betrayed the uniform. He betrayed our country

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<v Speaker 1>in the most unimaginable way. No, it wasn't workplace violence.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when Obama called it that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, anything to cover up for the crimes of radical Islam.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the dear leader. That was Obama. Frankly, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party then, the Democratic Party today. And so

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<v Speaker 1>does he deserve to be put to death? You better

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. Does he deserve to be executed? You better

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. I'm just sorry it took so freaking long.

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<v Speaker 1>But let that go. As they say, better late than never.

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<v Speaker 1>And does he deserve a firing squad? Again, why? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with the firing squad? We talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>with Krista Pike and different methods of execution. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>a lethal injection somehow, quote, more humane than a firing

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<v Speaker 1>squad or the electric chair or hanging? I would argue

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite. Obviously, they botched it with the lethal dose.

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<v Speaker 1>A firing squad is very quick, it is extremely efficient,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is deadly effective. Nadal Hassan, unlike Krista Pike,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, is not going to survive. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have sharpshooters, professional snipers, their guns are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to jam, and he's going to be riddled with bullets,

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<v Speaker 1>and he will be dead within five seconds. It will

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<v Speaker 1>be quick. It will be decisive. It will be fatal.

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<v Speaker 1>And there will be very little pain. Because within a

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<v Speaker 1>couple seconds, he's dead. So I'm all for the firing squad.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm definitely for Nadal Hassan getting the death penalty. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the part that is really enraging the left, and even

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<v Speaker 1>has some conservatives and Republicans complaining... is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>both President Trump and Secretary of Defense or Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>War Pete Hegseth say that it should be whatever, televised,

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<v Speaker 1>live streamed. In other words, it will be public. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that people will show up and, you know, cheer, but

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.739
<v Speaker 1>you can see it. It'll be a camera and you

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:55.460
<v Speaker 1>can actually see it on your computer, your iPad, your iPhone, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And they say that's barbaric. This is the counter argument.

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<v Speaker 1>The argument is that it's barbaric. It's unseemly that people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to watch out of morbid curiosity. How does a,

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<v Speaker 1>how is a person, you know, shot to death at

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<v Speaker 1>a firing squad and to see a person's skull or,

0:27:17.390 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>or body break apart with all these bullets shattering it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they say that this is corrosive to our

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<v Speaker 1>country because this shows a kind of primitive barbarism, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like the Romans during the Roman Empire, where they

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<v Speaker 1>were throwing the Christians to the lions, that people are

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<v Speaker 1>developing a bloodlust for this, and that if you're going

0:27:42.619 --> 0:27:46.020
<v Speaker 1>to do an execution, do it by firing squad or

0:27:46.580 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 1>electrocution or, you know, whatever, lethal injection, it should be

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<v Speaker 1>behind the curtain, behind a prison wall, away from the public.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't see it because it's such a grisly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nature that it's such a terrible thing to watch and

0:28:10.180 --> 0:28:14.820
<v Speaker 1>experience that really the public should not be involved in

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>watching something like this. And it's only going to increase

0:28:18.540 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the public's appetite to want to see more public style executions.

0:28:23.869 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>And so they're saying, what's the difference between this and

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<v Speaker 1>say what the mullahs in Iran do? Because there they

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:35.260
<v Speaker 1>execute people by hanging, you know, gays, traitors, what they

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:40.100
<v Speaker 1>perceive as traitors, people who dissent from the regime. And

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.110
<v Speaker 1>they say, well, they hang them from a crane. And

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd shows up and they all start cheering. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they say that's, you know, it's primitive, it's barbaric.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what totalitarian countries or societies do. It's not what civilized,

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<v Speaker 1>humane societies do. And so that's the argument. Now, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's a deterrent. I want future Islamic terrorists to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that if you're going to attack and kill Americans...

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<v Speaker 1>especially U.S. service members, on American soil, and we capture

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:31.810
<v Speaker 1>you and we arrest you and we convict you that

0:29:31.850 --> 0:29:35.330
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be your fate. You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get some comfortable cell and, you know, free TV.

0:29:40.820 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and free computers and three square meals and, you know,

0:29:45.540 --> 0:29:47.910
<v Speaker 1>get to walk around the yard and get sunshine one

0:29:47.950 --> 0:29:51.270
<v Speaker 1>hour a day. No, no, no, no. You're not going

0:29:51.290 --> 0:29:55.510
<v Speaker 1>to be sitting in a hotel essentially with bars. This

0:29:55.730 --> 0:30:00.810
<v Speaker 1>is going to be your fate. You're going to be executed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to be executed for the world to see.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're going to be humiliated as you're executed. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing, and they're not going to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you want the Coonerman's, you know, my personal

0:30:16.250 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>feeling on this, I would cover those bullets in bacon grease.

0:30:24.380 --> 0:30:28.250
<v Speaker 1>I would. I'd say, you know what? Not only are

0:30:28.270 --> 0:30:29.690
<v Speaker 1>we going to shoot you, we're going to put it

0:30:29.730 --> 0:30:35.390
<v Speaker 1>with bacon grease. You got it? So if you're waiting

0:30:35.410 --> 0:30:39.340
<v Speaker 1>for your 72 virgins, don't worry, we'll deliver. We'll deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>What this man did was unconscionable and unspeakable. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>time we make an example of people like this. We're

0:30:52.270 --> 0:30:56.210
<v Speaker 1>going to find you. We're going to hunt you. We're

0:30:56.230 --> 0:31:00.190
<v Speaker 1>going to capture you. We're going to arrest you. We're

0:31:00.210 --> 0:31:03.330
<v Speaker 1>going to convict you. And then we're going to shoot you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to execute you.

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<v Speaker 6>617-266-6868.

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<v Speaker 1>And the world will watch. I am for the making

0:31:18.330 --> 0:31:22.150
<v Speaker 1>it public. The execution, I believe, you know, I support

0:31:22.210 --> 0:31:26.110
<v Speaker 1>the president's decision for the firing squad. And I also

0:31:26.170 --> 0:31:31.190
<v Speaker 1>support his decision to to make Nadal Hassan's execution public

0:31:31.550 --> 0:31:38.590
<v Speaker 1>that people can see on streaming or on television. Agree, disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you, number one, does Nadal Hassan

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<v Speaker 1>deserve the death penalty? Does he deserve to be shot

0:31:49.750 --> 0:31:54.170
<v Speaker 1>or executed by a firing squad? And the big one,

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<v Speaker 1>This execution will be made public for you, me, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to see. Is it the right decision? Or do you

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's barbaric and un-American?

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<v Speaker 3>617-266-6868.

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<v Speaker 1>Vince in Utah. Thanks for holding, Vince, and welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes and yes. are my answers.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know what, Jeff, he's mo he's Muslims. So

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<v Speaker 7>they believe in the old Testament and an eye for

0:32:32.170 --> 0:32:36.950
<v Speaker 7>an eye. So he's getting poetic justice in the end anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>It can play in his favor, too, though.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, he can be very stoic and go up

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.700
<v Speaker 7>there and take his medicine and Mamdami will praise it

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.750
<v Speaker 7>and then call us barbarians and everything else. So, I mean,

0:32:51.810 --> 0:32:54.090
<v Speaker 7>it's going to be it's going to be a media spectacle.

0:32:54.170 --> 0:32:56.790
<v Speaker 7>And I think that it's going to get record numbers

0:32:56.830 --> 0:32:57.980
<v Speaker 7>of people watching it.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. But it's just desserts.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm totally with what Hegseth says. You know, an

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 7>example must be made. And so let's make an example

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<v Speaker 7>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Vince, you know I agree with you. Okay, not a hundred,

0:33:13.020 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but a thousand percent. But just to play devil's advocate,

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you say to the argument, okay, he's getting

0:33:20.100 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>his punishment, eye for an eye, he killed people with bullets,

0:33:24.820 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be executed with bullets. But what you're

0:33:28.380 --> 0:33:30.590
<v Speaker 1>going to do now by making it public, putting it

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.450
<v Speaker 1>on television or streaming, live streaming it, is you're going

0:33:34.470 --> 0:33:38.630
<v Speaker 1>to turn Nadal Hassan into a martyr, into a cult

0:33:38.710 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>figure that instead of making an example out of him,

0:33:43.500 --> 0:33:46.030
<v Speaker 1>you're almost going to make a martyr out of him,

0:33:46.050 --> 0:33:50.210
<v Speaker 1>especially to the Islamic world. What do you say to

0:33:50.270 --> 0:33:50.830
<v Speaker 1>that argument?

0:33:53.270 --> 0:33:57.980
<v Speaker 4>I say... Zero Fs given. And I fully expect to.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 7>See a mural of Nadal Hassan pop up in Salt

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 7>Lake City at some point. You know what I mean?

0:34:04.060 --> 0:34:06.900
<v Speaker 4>Because the demographics of this state are changing. But you

0:34:06.940 --> 0:34:07.660
<v Speaker 4>know what, Jeff?

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 7>It's all coming to a head and we need to

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.540
<v Speaker 7>confront it head on. They were trying to start a

0:34:12.620 --> 0:34:15.460
<v Speaker 7>mutiny within the U.S. military and they almost succeeded in

0:34:15.580 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 7>doing it. You know, they almost succeeded in doing it,

0:34:20.489 --> 0:34:23.710
<v Speaker 7>but we're cleaning out the trash. We're getting out the

0:34:23.750 --> 0:34:27.549
<v Speaker 7>subversive elements. I just watched a fascinating podcast and they

0:34:27.590 --> 0:34:31.280
<v Speaker 7>were talking about the intelligence community and how You can't

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 7>even give frank assessments anymore because you're worried about how

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.460
<v Speaker 7>it's going to be perceived and what side you're on.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.980
<v Speaker 7>You know what I mean? We're on the cusp of

0:34:43.060 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 7>a civil war in this country, and people don't even

0:34:45.660 --> 0:34:49.140
<v Speaker 7>realize it. And, you know, usually when civil wars break out,

0:34:49.180 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 7>they come out of nowhere. Like, a lot of people

0:34:51.260 --> 0:34:54.350
<v Speaker 7>are blindsided by it. All of a sudden, things start happening,

0:34:55.130 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 7>violence breaks out, and then it just cascades. It just cascades,

0:35:00.580 --> 0:35:03.100
<v Speaker 7>you know, it just cascades. And people think it can

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 7>never happen here. It can happen here because all the

0:35:06.660 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 7>conditions are set for it to happen here.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry to get off subject, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Vince, I think, no, I disagree. I mean, I agree

0:35:15.670 --> 0:35:17.850
<v Speaker 1>with you. What I'm saying is I don't think you're

0:35:17.870 --> 0:35:21.310
<v Speaker 1>going off subject. I think you're right. I think Nadal

0:35:21.350 --> 0:35:25.530
<v Speaker 1>Hassan wanted a mutiny in the military. There's no question.

0:35:26.350 --> 0:35:30.049
<v Speaker 1>He was a fifth column. And he wanted other fifth

0:35:30.110 --> 0:35:33.290
<v Speaker 1>columnists to join him. And this was an attack from

0:35:33.330 --> 0:35:36.790
<v Speaker 1>within the military. And it was part of a larger

0:35:36.910 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Islamist design to bring America down from within. And that's

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:46.060
<v Speaker 1>why he committed that terrorist atrocity. And to me, that's

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>why I have no problem. In fact, I support making

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.860
<v Speaker 1>it public because I want every terrorist out there to

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.859
<v Speaker 1>know this is, you're not going to break us. This

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 1>is going to be your fate. So if you want

0:35:59.820 --> 0:36:05.020
<v Speaker 1>to end up tied up to a pole, humiliated with

0:36:05.100 --> 0:36:09.690
<v Speaker 1>American soldiers training their guns on you, and you being

0:36:09.810 --> 0:36:14.130
<v Speaker 1>shot to pieces to the point that you're basically unrecognizable

0:36:14.610 --> 0:36:19.190
<v Speaker 1>after 10 seconds, then go ahead. If that's what you

0:36:19.230 --> 0:36:22.109
<v Speaker 1>want your life to end up being, go ahead. So

0:36:22.210 --> 0:36:24.450
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I think it'll be a media spectacle.

0:36:25.010 --> 0:36:26.590
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people are going to watch it.

0:36:27.489 --> 0:36:29.690
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's going to serve as a real deterrent.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't mess with the USA. Vince, as always, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for that call. John in Lowell. Thanks for holding, John,

0:36:41.630 --> 0:36:42.150
<v Speaker 1>and welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Jeff, I got a couple of real hot items

0:36:45.790 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 5>for you. So I heard President Trump say last night

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<v Speaker 5>that Obama had emailed that this was going to happen

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.700
<v Speaker 5>and did nothing about it. That's number one. So that's

0:36:57.739 --> 0:37:01.010
<v Speaker 5>another case of treason, another reason he should be brought

0:37:01.050 --> 0:37:05.210
<v Speaker 5>up on charges. Now, Jeff, here's the amazing part. They're

0:37:05.230 --> 0:37:08.910
<v Speaker 5>screaming about this being televised. You know, I seem to

0:37:08.969 --> 0:37:14.089
<v Speaker 5>remember a certain rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, where mysteriously every

0:37:14.150 --> 0:37:17.489
<v Speaker 5>major media showed up for the first time, where our

0:37:17.530 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 5>president's head was almost taken off. They had no problem

0:37:21.420 --> 0:37:24.379
<v Speaker 5>with violence on TV then, did they, Jeff? Ha ha

0:37:24.420 --> 0:37:25.100
<v Speaker 5>ha ha ha.

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:25.860
<v Speaker 2>Ha ha ha!

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<v Speaker 1>John, drop the mic, baby. Drop the mic. John, are

0:37:33.050 --> 0:37:37.270
<v Speaker 1>you in favor of execution by firing squad? And I

0:37:37.370 --> 0:37:40.390
<v Speaker 1>know you're in favor, obviously, of televising it or making

0:37:40.450 --> 0:37:44.390
<v Speaker 1>it public. I'm just curious why. Go ahead, John.

0:37:47.550 --> 0:37:50.049
<v Speaker 5>If I murder someone, I want them to hang me

0:37:50.110 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 5>on the common in a public setting, okay? That's how

0:37:54.340 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 5>far back I go. Because this is what's happened to

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 5>this country. We've become soft as a grape, Jeff. And

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.980
<v Speaker 5>that's exactly what they want. We're turning boys into girls

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 5>and girls into boys. Meanwhile, you have Muslim kids strapping

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:16.479
<v Speaker 5>bombs to themselves when we're over there. Are you kidding me, Jeff?

0:38:17.580 --> 0:38:19.180
<v Speaker 5>We better toughen up or we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>John, again, drop the mic. Thank you for that call.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, that's Hegseth's point as well. And Hegseth

0:38:30.610 --> 0:38:34.430
<v Speaker 1>is right. And, you know, you heard the cut, but

0:38:34.450 --> 0:38:36.089
<v Speaker 1>just he said, you know, we used to do this

0:38:36.140 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>during World War II all the time. And before, obviously,

0:38:39.140 --> 0:38:41.940
<v Speaker 1>World War II. And when was the last time we

0:38:41.980 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>won a war? Like fully won a war? Completely won

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>a war? World War II. So, you know, his point is, no,

0:38:49.900 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we're going to stand our ground now. You're not. No, no, no.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>This is no longer Obama or Biden's military. You mess

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:03.069
<v Speaker 1>with us, you're going to pay the ultimate price. Brian

0:39:03.230 --> 0:39:06.450
<v Speaker 1>in Boston. Thanks for holding, Brian, and welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Jeff. Good morning, sir.

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<v Speaker 9>So I actually, funny little quip. One of my neighbors,

0:39:16.020 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 9>he was, I think, a staff sergeant or something stationed

0:39:19.020 --> 0:39:24.430
<v Speaker 9>there at Fort Hood. And some of his soldiers under

0:39:24.489 --> 0:39:29.930
<v Speaker 9>his watch were witness to the tragic events.

0:39:30.020 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 4>That happened.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 9>And so my thought is, well, if you got some survivors,

0:39:35.780 --> 0:39:38.969
<v Speaker 9>how about you give them a rifle and have them

0:39:39.030 --> 0:39:40.190
<v Speaker 9>part of that firing squad?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Truly, I love it. And, you know,

0:39:46.070 --> 0:39:48.810
<v Speaker 1>it could be a form of catharsis for them. But

0:39:48.870 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I think anybody that or people that were wounded and

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.900
<v Speaker 1>are now better, obviously, and they've recovered, if they want to,

0:39:55.900 --> 0:39:58.540
<v Speaker 1>you know, come in and get a gun, I'd say,

0:39:58.620 --> 0:40:02.529
<v Speaker 1>you know, lock and load. Really, I agree with you.