WEBVTT - Sports Talk with Mike Petraglia -- 12/19/25

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<v Speaker 1>The following takes place between six pm and seven pm.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want answers?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm entitled.

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<v Speaker 3>You want answer the truth?

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<v Speaker 4>You can't handle the truth?

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<v Speaker 3>Truth, the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Holidays, everybody. My name is Mike Petralia. You know

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<v Speaker 2>me better on social media and maybe if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>close personal friend by the name Trags. I am in

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<v Speaker 2>tonight for the one and only Lance McAllister. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is the RNL Carrier's sports talk program presented by Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>Chevrolet here on news radio seven hundred WLW. As I

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<v Speaker 2>tweeted out this afternoon, it's been a week. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a week of ups and downs, psychoanalysis, back and forth,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to read the personalities not only of a famous

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<v Speaker 2>franchise quarterback, but the coaching staff, the very quiet front

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<v Speaker 2>office and ownership group of one Cincinnati Bengals franchise. And

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<v Speaker 2>we've actually probably been doing I say, one week, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably been the last two to three weeks. Trying to

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<v Speaker 2>read body language is a dangerous business to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to do it in the NFL in this particular

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<v Speaker 2>town is another challenge altogether. And we're gonna talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about the Cincinnati Bengals. Of course, they have been

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<v Speaker 2>eliminated at four and ten on the season. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to finish out the string, and that string begins in

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<v Speaker 2>the heat this Sunday at one o'clock here on seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred WLW, Dan Horde and Dave Lapham on the call,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, Bengals four and ten taking on the six

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<v Speaker 2>and eight Miami Dolphins, another team that is playing out

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<v Speaker 2>the string. They were eliminated with their loss in the

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<v Speaker 2>Frozen Conditions in Pittsburgh on Monday night. We'll also talk

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<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati Reds. What moves should they be making going

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<v Speaker 2>forward this winter? Of course, they miss out on Kyle Schwarber,

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<v Speaker 2>the hometown kid, of course from Middletown, and their biggest

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<v Speaker 2>move so far is to sign a lefty reliever by

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Caleb Ferguson. We'll be talking with Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Brennan of the Cincinnati Inquirer in the seven o'clock hour

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<v Speaker 2>about that. The college football playoffs begin tonight. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>for this game because actually someone covering the Bengals this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>I was inside the practice structure this morning and somebody

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<v Speaker 2>asked me, who do you got tonight? Alabama or Oklahoma?

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<v Speaker 2>My instinct was to start off Alabama, just because I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't taken Oklahoma seriously. But how can you take Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>seriously coming off that hideous shutout loss to Georgia in

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC Championship. Certainly I reconsidered on the spot and

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<v Speaker 2>then said, well, the game's at Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma's

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<v Speaker 2>just a more consistent team. So I went with Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>But the DFP begins tonight in Oklahoma with Alabama visiting

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<v Speaker 2>the Sooners. Tomorrow, there are three games the other quarterfinals.

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<v Speaker 2>Number ten Miami at number seven Texas A and M.

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<v Speaker 2>That's at noon. Number eleven Tulane visits number six Ole Miss.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a fascinating backyard rivalry down south. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to that. That's at three point thirty PM. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the nightcap at seven thirty Eastern time. Number twelve James

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<v Speaker 2>Madison at number five Oregon. Three or four years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>James Madison was in the College Championship Series. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>even in the Division one Bowl Championship Bowl playoff series.

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<v Speaker 2>They were in what was otherwise known as Division one

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<v Speaker 2>Double A back in the day. But James Madison, they

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<v Speaker 2>put their big boy pants on and they are now

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the college football playoffs, So those are the

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<v Speaker 2>four games between tonight and tomorrow. It is time he

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<v Speaker 2>is held online long enough. It is time to get

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<v Speaker 2>to our first guest. And you know this guest from

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<v Speaker 2>my work on the Jungle War Bengals postgame podcast because

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<v Speaker 2>he's my co host on the Jungle War Bengals postgame

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<v Speaker 2>podcast after each and every Bengals game. His name is

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Skinner of Local twelve and Local twelve dot com Skinny.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we can call this an extension of our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not. I'm in charge of this. Sure, let's talk Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I brought you on. I guess we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start with all of the psychoanalysis that's been going on.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are a lot of fans are

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<v Speaker 2>tired of it. They're tired of us in the media

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<v Speaker 2>trying to read and interpret what Joe Burrow is saying,

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<v Speaker 2>with Jamar Chase is saying, Zach Taylor is saying, not

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<v Speaker 2>only for Zach Taylor but the organization. What is your

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<v Speaker 2>initial read of the last two weeks of talk down

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<v Speaker 2>at Paycorp.

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<v Speaker 5>We I think the Bill's loss broke Joe Burrow. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>mean he can't be rebuilt, doesn't mean he can't be

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<v Speaker 5>built back up. But I think that loss broke him.

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<v Speaker 5>Like he worked so hard to come back. They had

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<v Speaker 5>he had his moment in Baltimore and it was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna lift this whole organization up,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm gonna get this script to the playoffs. And

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<v Speaker 5>he was culpable in Buffalo, but he wasn't entirely culpable.

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<v Speaker 5>The defense was awful when it needed to not be awful.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think at that point he just it just

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<v Speaker 5>broke him, like I busted my butt to come back

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<v Speaker 5>and I still put up thirty points. Yeah he threw

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<v Speaker 5>a pick six, no doubt, but he still he still

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<v Speaker 5>got your thirty four points and loss. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>at that point it was like I'm broken, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>understandable to some degree. I think the whole surgery, rehab, recovery,

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<v Speaker 5>all that can wear on you. I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 5>really understands, and I know I don't even understand. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the most major other had happened to me is

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<v Speaker 5>I broke a couple of ebows. I haven't handed gut.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't need surgery for you, the one to have

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<v Speaker 5>me risked. You know, all the things he's gone through now,

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<v Speaker 5>turf toe, that's major stuff that he's trying to come

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<v Speaker 5>back from. Aixn it, yeah, an appendix, Yeah, sorry, but

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<v Speaker 5>yeah that one too. I mean that's major self to

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<v Speaker 5>come back from him, and as a human being, that's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot. And he's tried to come back quickly every

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<v Speaker 5>time and he has and so to me, he's broken

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<v Speaker 5>and he talked it into fruition last Wednesday. He sure

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<v Speaker 5>played like it this past Sunday. Still don't think he's

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<v Speaker 5>in a great place, and so I'm super fascinated to

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<v Speaker 5>watch what happens on this Sunday in Miami. Is it

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<v Speaker 5>a chance for him to take the first step towards

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<v Speaker 5>kind of taking a deep breast getting himself back together,

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<v Speaker 5>kind of feeling like, all right, let's just finish this

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<v Speaker 5>thing strong and carry it over. Or is he still broke?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Skinny, I think he uh the former. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he is going to try and go out and

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<v Speaker 2>finish the season with good vibrations. To quote the Beach

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<v Speaker 2>Boys Brian Wilson, I do I think he just wants

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<v Speaker 2>some momentum going into not only next year, he wants

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<v Speaker 2>some momentum going into the off season, because you and

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<v Speaker 2>I both know, and I think every fan that has

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<v Speaker 2>listened to him talk over the last two weeks he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks a lot. There's a lot of thoughts going on internally,

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<v Speaker 2>many of which don't reach the surface, and when they do,

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of sometimes come out muddled, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is part of the issue with Burrow, Like when he

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<v Speaker 2>says these things, what is he really thinking deep deep

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<v Speaker 2>down about his future with the Bengals. And I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Danner Junior did a fabulous job, not only on

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<v Speaker 2>his reporting on Tuesday, but asking Burrow on Wednesday if

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<v Speaker 2>he thought about the possibility of not being the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>next year. No, he pretty much answered that out of hand,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of wiped that off the possibility list. But then

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<v Speaker 2>when he was asked if he's thought about whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not he could be playing for some other team in

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<v Speaker 2>the future, he was much more vague, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was a smart answer of his. But he also

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are reading in that he was

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<v Speaker 2>sending a message. I don't think he was sending a message.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, honestly, he thinks, well, if it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>out here, if they don't make the right moves, sure

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<v Speaker 2>anything could possibly happen. Look at Micah Parsons. He brought

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<v Speaker 2>that example up on his own pretty much, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>un prompted. He brought that example up about what happened

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of the year. He's very well aware

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<v Speaker 2>of Peyton Manning starting with the Colts, ending his career

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<v Speaker 2>with the Broncos, Tom Brady obviously his career with the

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots before he finished with Tampa Bay. He's aware of

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, right, skinny.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and yeah. I don't think this was him talking

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<v Speaker 5>short term, even last Wednesday. I think this was him saying, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>we gotta you gotta fix this, you gotta help me

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<v Speaker 5>fix this. I think he was one of those people

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<v Speaker 5>that thought I can lift everybody up. I'm the guy

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<v Speaker 5>that's gonna carry the burden for all of that, and

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<v Speaker 5>you can only do so much, and at some point

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<v Speaker 5>you reached the breaking point of you know what, I've

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<v Speaker 5>tried my darnness, and I just can't do it. I

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<v Speaker 5>can do my part, I can't do everybody's part. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that was the message of last week of Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>front office, get me some help. I need some help

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<v Speaker 5>on on the other side of the football.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I think this week was more of yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to I want I want this to work here.

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<v Speaker 5>But if it's gonna keep spinning its wheels and not work, well,

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<v Speaker 5>then I'll let it work somewhere else and we'll see

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<v Speaker 5>where that goes. I mean, he's under contracted twenty twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 5>They can franchise tag him multiple times. After that. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's there's a way that that keeps him in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 5>that there's a keep him happy in Cincinnati. I would

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<v Speaker 5>say probably for that stage where you're franchise tagging him

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<v Speaker 5>just because you can. It's probably not going to be

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<v Speaker 5>a good thing, but he can be tied to this

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<v Speaker 5>franchise for a long time to come. Just go fix it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's that's the crux of this mic

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<v Speaker 5>is just go fix it, or at least show me

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<v Speaker 5>you care and do something different to try to fix it.

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<v Speaker 5>As the post too status quo, well, and that's where

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<v Speaker 5>we're relative. I feel like they just don't care to

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<v Speaker 5>fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think they think they know how to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>The status quo part of this skinny is the modus

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<v Speaker 2>operandi of the Blackburn and Brown family. They are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to give up any control. They may run into

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<v Speaker 2>a c like they did in twenty twenty and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one in free agency where they brought in I

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<v Speaker 2>think I wrote for sil insinsi dot com there's you

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<v Speaker 2>know those six free agents that really redefine the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they're going to try and do that again this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're going to try. There are places, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor spoke this morning about with us down at

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<v Speaker 2>Pays about how the defense can be remade. There are

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<v Speaker 2>definitely pieces in place, and I agree with them in

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<v Speaker 2>that regard, but they're gonna have to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>bring in veteran pieces. The people who are bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>those pieces aren't gonna change. But I think the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>front office and ownership thinks that those pieces will be

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<v Speaker 2>the change that the Bengals need, not who's bringing them in.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I go back to this and that's and

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<v Speaker 5>that's fine, and I believe that's gonna happen too, because

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<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be enough cap space to do some of

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<v Speaker 5>those things. And they did do a fine job the

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<v Speaker 5>last time. Around in free agency, but then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be back in the cycle again of having to pay

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of guys order back to receivers, Orlando Brown,

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<v Speaker 5>whoever you bring on the defense, all of those things,

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<v Speaker 5>and you still better keep hitting on draft picks. And

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<v Speaker 5>they haven't done that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>So why can't you do something to change that? And

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<v Speaker 5>they don't seem to be willing. Do I need more stouts,

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<v Speaker 5>Douktoba's I don't need more eyes? Okay, well, sure you've

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<v Speaker 5>done great so far, guy. And that's the part I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's the most frustrating is in this league, when

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<v Speaker 5>you're paying for the stars, you have got to have

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of your roster hit on rookie contracts, not

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<v Speaker 5>as rookies per se, but on those first rookie contracts,

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<v Speaker 5>which are four year deals. You got to have a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of those guys. That's what the Eagles did. The

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<v Speaker 5>Eagles paid all their dudes and then had a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of guys hit on rookie contracts. And I don't trust

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<v Speaker 5>Duke Tobin and those making the draft selections to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Do I trusted to do it? Off of proven NFL tape? Yeah? Probably.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, most people have proven NFL tape

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<v Speaker 5>are pretty good at that kind of stuff because it's

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<v Speaker 5>proven NFL tape. The college guys are always a crapshoot,

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<v Speaker 5>no matter how highly you draft them. They're always you

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<v Speaker 5>don't fully know until you see. And so do I

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<v Speaker 5>trust him to get those guys right? I'm sorry, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I just I don't know why anybody should. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know why any fans should trust them to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the biggest positive thing you've seen from the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Woo one the fact there's only three games left. That

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<v Speaker 5>might guess that. I guess the play and the people

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<v Speaker 5>are not gonna like it. I guess the play of

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<v Speaker 5>the offensive line. I think the offensive line has has

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<v Speaker 5>had a pretty decent year overall, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 5>and that means Dylan Fairchild's played okay. You know, dol

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<v Speaker 5>Riser's played okay. Now he's probably gonna be back after

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<v Speaker 5>this year. Maybe he is on a on a year deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Dalen Rivers when he was in played okay. So that

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<v Speaker 5>to me is one. The only only thing else is

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<v Speaker 5>the defense has played better since the bye week, and

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<v Speaker 5>you have a chance to finish strong. My fear is this,

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<v Speaker 5>you kids have finished strong against Quinn viewers making his

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<v Speaker 5>first start, nine thousand year old Jakobe prisseat and struggling

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<v Speaker 5>to door Sanders. Is that really gonna show you anything?

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<v Speaker 5>That and that that my fear would be, Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we got hopped down the stretch. Guys started to figure

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<v Speaker 5>it out? Did they? Did they?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 5>That's the part that scares me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Zach Taylor I can tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and he kind of suggested that this morning and meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with us, that's what he's going to suggest is that

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen the defense now in his view, okay, playing

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<v Speaker 2>much better for several weeks. I tend to agree that, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there have been flickers of hope that you've definitely seen

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<v Speaker 2>from a young defense. My takeaway on defense has been

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<v Speaker 2>DJ Turner and Dax Hill continues to be a really

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<v Speaker 2>solid player. Miles Murphy has come on and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to earn that fifth year. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>believe that he is a piece to build around on

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<v Speaker 2>the edge. You would never have said that after last year,

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<v Speaker 2>not in a million years, but based on what he's

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<v Speaker 2>shown this year. I feel like they don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>choice but to believe in him going forward. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's where I think they are with that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, the Bengal fans have to be

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<v Speaker 2>hopeful that this defense is going to complement the offense

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<v Speaker 2>next year and they'll be back where they were before

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty one season. We're gonna have to let

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<v Speaker 2>you go here, Skinny. Anything you're working on real quick

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<v Speaker 2>for Local twelve dot com or you're just gonna sit

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<v Speaker 2>back and watch the Bowl games.

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<v Speaker 5>Just gonna sit back and watch the Bowl games and

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<v Speaker 5>cover the game from my couch on Sunday, Mike, and

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<v Speaker 5>then talk to you via the zoom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we will both be working remotely, Skinny. I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to it. That is Richard Skinner of Local twelve

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<v Speaker 2>and Local twelve dot com. He does a great job

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<v Speaker 2>covering all things Cincinnati Bengals, Skinny. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us. All right, that is Richard Skinner. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Mike Petrolia. When we come back on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of news at the bottom of the hour,

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk to Alex Frank. We'll talk some Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>Bearcats football, basketball and the University of Kentucky basketball program.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the RNL Carriers sports talk program presented by

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey Chevrolet on news radio seven hundred WLW. That is

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. That's the way I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ac and the Sunshine Van circa nineteen seventy five, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, we had a World Series champion in the

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Reds, coming off the greatest World Series still in history.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a Paul Brown's last year coaching an NFL team,

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<v Speaker 2>a playoff team, and eleven and three Cincinnati Bengals team

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<v Speaker 2>that lost thirty one twenty eight to the Oakland Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>in a fabulous game out at the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we moved on to nineteen seventy six, another

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<v Speaker 2>World Series title. We have had just one World championship

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<v Speaker 2>in this town since nineteen seventy six, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>know it was the shocking four game sweep of the

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<v Speaker 2>Oakland A's in nineteen ninety the Nasty Boys. And a

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<v Speaker 2>week like this, a year like this kind of dredges

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<v Speaker 2>up those memories all over again that it's been a long, long,

0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.639
<v Speaker 2>long long wait. Yes, the Reds made the playoffs, lost

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<v Speaker 2>to the eventual World Series champion Los Angeles Dodgers in

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<v Speaker 2>the postseason, that's great, they finished eighty three and seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Bengals, it's just you know, as a beat reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>as a columnist covering the team, you like to see

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<v Speaker 2>them do well. I think it's I think anybody you

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<v Speaker 2>speak to in journalism that is on the beat, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>admit to you that when the team is doing well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a better story to cover. There are many more

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<v Speaker 2>storylines that people want to read, and you, as a journalist,

0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.520
<v Speaker 2>want people to want to read your material. And when

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<v Speaker 2>they win, like in twenty one and twenty two, people

0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.760
<v Speaker 2>are much more engaged. You don't want everybody just paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention to you when you're writing something critical. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to write good stories and there's still good stories to

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<v Speaker 2>be written. Have a DJ Turner column that I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend. He's a great story. And I went

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<v Speaker 2>over this with Richard Skinner of localswelve dot com. The

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<v Speaker 2>storyline still are there, but just not as voluminous. In

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<v Speaker 2>a four and ten season against Cincinnati, Bengals will play

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<v Speaker 2>the Miami Dolphins on Sunday afternoon in Miami. The final

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<v Speaker 2>road game of the year. Of course, they come back

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<v Speaker 2>and play a pair of Sunday afternoon one o'clock games

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<v Speaker 2>against Arizona on the twenty eighth, and then the following

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday they wrap up the season against the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Mike Petralia Trags. You can follow me

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<v Speaker 2>at colns since with a y dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 2>also follow me of course on the X at Trags

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<v Speaker 2>t r ags and as I mentioned with Skinny, our

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<v Speaker 2>Jungle Roar Bengals postgame podcast after each and every Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>game is at YouTube dot com slash at Jungle Roar Pod.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the RNL Carrier sports talk program presented by

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey Chevrolet on news radio seven hundred w WHA. Next up,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna switch gears a little bit. We've talked enough

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<v Speaker 2>about the Cincinnati Bengals to open the program. Let's move

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<v Speaker 2>on to the college scene and someone who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is down in Miami to watch the Bengals and the

0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Dolphins on Sunday afternoon. But I want to talk college

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<v Speaker 2>basketball college football a little bit as well with Alex Frank.

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<v Speaker 2>He does great work for Sealing asincey dot com as

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<v Speaker 2>well as a Sea of Blue since e jungle Land,

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<v Speaker 2>Grant holy Land, all of those at SB Nation. And

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<v Speaker 2>he has a brand new podcast that you absolutely should

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<v Speaker 2>give a listen to. It's a Lockdown Network podcast entitled

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals Squad. He is Alex Frank. How about that for

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<v Speaker 2>an intro?

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<v Speaker 6>Alex, Well, Mike, thank you. It's great to be with

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<v Speaker 6>you on this Friday night. And the weather's fantastic down

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<v Speaker 6>here in Miami. I was just talking with your producer

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<v Speaker 6>Sean about it. I haven't seen a lot of Bengals

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<v Speaker 6>fans just yet, but that may change on Sunday. But

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<v Speaker 6>it's great to here. Is great to be off with

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<v Speaker 6>you tonight. And I got a tough fact following Richard Skinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm sure you can live up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't worry about that at all, Alex. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>let's start with the Cincinnati Bearcats. They had a much

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<v Speaker 2>needed win over Alabama State on Wednesday night. What were

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<v Speaker 2>your takeaways from, obviously the return of Gisel James. What

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<v Speaker 2>kind of dynamic he brings to the lineup. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he brings much needed energy on the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball. I'm not saying that he's an All American

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<v Speaker 2>scoring guard or a you know, a multiple guard that

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<v Speaker 2>can do a lot of things. But he does bring

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<v Speaker 2>energy and he takes some of the burden I think

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<v Speaker 2>off of Dada A Thomas.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that's the thing, Mike Gigsel. James brings a spark

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<v Speaker 6>that this team needed. I mean, they had lost four

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<v Speaker 6>of their last six games prior to his return, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be honest, I was shocked when I woke up

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<v Speaker 6>to the news earlier this week that he was returning.

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<v Speaker 6>But you think about the fact that he came out

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<v Speaker 6>Wednesday night and in twenty minutes he scored sixteen points,

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<v Speaker 6>hit multiple three pointers. I think that's why Bearcats fans

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<v Speaker 6>have something at least something to be excited about. And

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<v Speaker 6>then you had that too.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned Jayda Thomas.

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<v Speaker 6>You can also add Baba Miller, who had a great

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<v Speaker 6>game Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 4>This team has some life.

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<v Speaker 6>And if they can go to Clemson and they can

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<v Speaker 6>go to Greenville, South Carolina on Sunday afternoon to get

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<v Speaker 6>a win, you have some momentum going into conference play

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<v Speaker 6>in the Bigswold, where you're gonna have to find a

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<v Speaker 6>way to win some games to get some really good

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<v Speaker 6>teams but you know, definitely, the hope is a lot

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<v Speaker 6>greater than it was after last Saturday against Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on Wes Miller and the job

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<v Speaker 2>he's done so far with the Bearcats. He's come obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>he's come under a ton of scrutiny and there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people calling for his job. Seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be the mo of a lot of Cincinnati sports fans

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<v Speaker 2>right about now throughout the town. But what are your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on Wes Miller? How can he improve the way

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<v Speaker 2>his teams handle adversity.

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly what they need to do. They need to

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<v Speaker 6>handle adversity like you have been You've washed Beircats basketball

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.680
<v Speaker 6>long enough to know Mike that Bob Huggins coach teams

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<v Speaker 6>and Mike Cronin coach teams.

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<v Speaker 4>They could get punched in.

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<v Speaker 6>The mouth early, but yeah, you always knew they were

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<v Speaker 6>going to respond. It was so rare that they would

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<v Speaker 6>get blown out the way I've seen this Bearcats team

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<v Speaker 6>get blown out over the years with Wes Miller as

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<v Speaker 6>their head coach. So that's the one thing this team

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<v Speaker 6>needs to do a lot better at is get better

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<v Speaker 6>at overcoming adversity. They play well in Spurs. But the

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<v Speaker 6>problem is when they have something not go their way,

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<v Speaker 6>they let it snowball into a cavalcade of things that

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<v Speaker 6>if that's the right word, excuse me, that don't go

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<v Speaker 6>their way. So they need to, you know, respond to

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 6>adversity better. And then the other thing is, look like

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<v Speaker 6>you know how to play offensive basketball. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>Cronin coach Sheams and Huggin's coach teams work great offensively

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<v Speaker 6>by any means, but they could at least run offensive sets.

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<v Speaker 6>They could get the ball to their best scores when

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<v Speaker 6>they needed to.

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<v Speaker 4>This team can't even do that.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's Those are two things aside from of course

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<v Speaker 6>making the NCAA tournament where this program should be perennially

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<v Speaker 6>come selection Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>So those are.

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<v Speaker 6>Three things that I think this team and this program

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<v Speaker 6>has to be better at with Wes Miller. There's the

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<v Speaker 6>other thing, too, Mike, is there's not really any game

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<v Speaker 6>that I can like hang my hat on with this

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<v Speaker 6>program that says this can work.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 6>Five years in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing. I just don't recall a moment

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<v Speaker 2>a pinnacle for Wes Miller in the program where you

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<v Speaker 2>were like, okay, they have arrived, whether it was at

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<v Speaker 2>home or on the road. You know, a home game

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<v Speaker 2>against Arizona, they were in the game, but Arizona kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pulled away late. There are a couple of games

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<v Speaker 2>where they had leads in the second half, couldn't hold

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<v Speaker 2>on Houston. They were in the game with Houston, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it was last season, and Houston just pulled away

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<v Speaker 2>at the end. They just didn't have the horses. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the kind of game that Wes Miller needs. Forget

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<v Speaker 2>for now him making the NCAA tournament, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fans uc Alum and whatnot feel is

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<v Speaker 2>the only way he's going to save his job is

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<v Speaker 2>if he somehow manages to get this team through the

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<v Speaker 2>Big twelve schedule and get through with not even an

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and seven mark. Try you know, a ten and

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<v Speaker 2>eight mark. If he goes ten and eight and gets

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<v Speaker 2>the team to the tournament, I think that'll save his.

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<v Speaker 6>Job, no question about it, because that's that's at least

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<v Speaker 6>going to give the fans some sign of tangible progress

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 6>being made.

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<v Speaker 4>But you mentioned the fact.

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 6>That this program doesn't have a lot of signature wins.

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 6>Here's a program that two years ago, first ever Big

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 6>twelve game, they go on the road and beat a

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 6>very good BYU team, and I'm like, Okay, maybe this

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 6>program is about to take off. They never won consecutive

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 6>Big twelve games in the regular season, and then obviously

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 6>last year played out the way it did, so there's

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<v Speaker 6>still time.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 6>But you're right, because you go back and I was

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 6>talking about this with somebody earlier this week. You know,

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 6>there was a game in two thousand and This game

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 6>is very very famous in Bearcast basketball history. Bearcats are

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 6>playing at the ball and Bob Huggins says to his

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 6>entire team, if any of you touch the ball before

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 6>or take a shot before Kenny Martin touched the ball,

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 6>I'm taking your scholarship. I don't know if there's a

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 6>player on this team. Maybe it's Chisel James, maybe it's

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 6>Baba Miller, maybe it's Sanda Thomas. As you mentioned, is

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 6>there a player on this team that can get the

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<v Speaker 6>ball and say get out of my way.

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go.

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 6>Score some buckets and put the team on my back

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 6>and deliver us a much near victory. Jaron Cumberland was

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 6>that Gary Clark was that. Sean Kilpatrick was that I'm

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 6>not sure if this program has had that since maybe

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<v Speaker 6>it's on this team.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but you.

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<v Speaker 6>Better find out who that is quickly because the big

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 6>twelve gunlot is coming.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's move on to the University of Kentucky.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 2>They have a pretty massive game, I would say tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the debut of the CBS Sports Classic. It

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<v Speaker 2>features number twenty two Kentucky taking on Saint John's and

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on the Wildcats heading into that. Obviously, they

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<v Speaker 2>have had several bumps in the road before that massive

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 2>win over Indiana, which was desperately needed at home last week.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So the big news is Jaden Quayton. It looks

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 6>like he's going to make his Kentucky Wildcats debut tomorrow

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 6>afternoon in Atlanta. And Quainton's is a transfer from Arizona State.

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 6>He's a five former five star recruit. He's actually originally

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 6>from Cleveland, Ohio, and he's projected NBA lottery pick. He's

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 6>been Alison's last February for the torn ACL. The rehab

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 6>process was long.

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 4>It was lengthy.

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 6>At times, it felt like he didn't know if he

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 6>was gonna even play this season, but he could up

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.679
<v Speaker 6>play tomorrow, which look, that's the expectation, so long as

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 6>everything goes well in warm ups, and that is massive

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 6>for this team. But I'll tell you, Mike would really

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 6>impress me against Indiana about the Wildcats. They still aren't

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 6>a great shooting team, but they gave incredible effort, incredible intensity,

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 6>incredible grit on the defensive end. Their offensive rebounding was tremendous.

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 6>It paved the way from coming back from down seven

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 6>at half time to winning the game by twelve against

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 6>the good Indiana team that you very well may see

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 6>in the NCAA tournament. If this team plays like that,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 6>with that intensity and with that versatility that they have.

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 6>I thought Jalen Lowe played the best team of his

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 6>Wildcats career against Indiana. He was scrappy, he was a distributor,

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 6>he was attacking the rim. That's what you want to see.

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 6>This Wildcats team is fine. I know they had some

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 6>huge bumps in the road early and I covered a

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 6>lot of them. But you find a way to beat

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 6>Rick Bettino and his Saint John's team tomorrow. You're going

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 6>to generate some momentum going into SEC play and That's

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 6>where I think this team can take off.

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 4>The SEC is.

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<v Speaker 6>Not nearly as good as strong as it was last year.

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 6>Is still a very strong conference, there's no question about it.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 5>But you have the.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 6>Opportunity in front of you to get a really good

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 6>win against a ranked Saint John's team and build some

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 6>momentum going into SEC play tomorrow afternoon.

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>That doubleheader, by the way, is at State Farm Arena

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta. The other half of that CBS Sports Classic

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 2>is Ohio State and North Carolina. Quick thoughts on that

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 2>we have about thirty.

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 6>Seconds Ohio say, better be ready to rebound and defend

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 6>because North Carolina is long, they're big. If you can

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 6>force North Carolina to take some more shots from the

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 6>perimeter than they would like, you've got a chance. And

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 6>like I talked about with Americas, give the ball to

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 6>Bruce Thorton if you're the Buckeyes and get the heck

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 6>out of the way. The buck guys can win tomorrow,

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 6>and if they do, they're gonna have some momentum going

0:28:58.320 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 6>to the Big Ten play.

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<v Speaker 2>Are doing your podcast, by the way from Miami, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>because you will be down in Miami for the game,

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<v Speaker 2>or are you waiting to record when you come back.

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 6>No, we are going live after the game on Sunday

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 6>time to be determined. Gotta make sure we know how

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 6>well it's gonna tak usk get back from the stadium

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 6>to the hotel. So sometime Sunday night we will be

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 6>live on the Lockdown Mangos YouTube channel with the Bengal

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.959
<v Speaker 6>Squad Show, So feel free to tune in and hopefully

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 6>after a Bengals win down here in the Magic.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>City, the well traveled and incredibly hard working Alex Frank

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>of a Sea of Blue, Sinci, jungle Land, Grant holy Land,

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 2>all of those SB Nation podcast should say websites, and

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>of course a Bengals squad that is on the lockedwn network,

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>so be sure to tune that in. He also does

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>some great work for us at celns Sincy dot com.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 2>So that is Alex Frank. We're gonna have to let

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>him go. We've got news that the top of the hour,

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and then on the other side of news, we will

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>have Pat Brennan of the Cincinnati Inquirer talking all things

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Reds. You are listening to RNL Carriers Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>already talked to a little Cincinnati Bengals. We've talked about

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you see Bearcats at least on the basketball side, and

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 2>University of Kentucky. This is a s mortgage board. I

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>hate that word. I just tried to use it and

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I butchered it. But sorry, everybody. It's really a plethora.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a better word and easier word to pronounce for me,

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<v Speaker 2>A plethora of sports topics. Tonight, locally, we are going

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to move on to the baseball team in town right

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>now and talk about the Cincinnati Red Legs. They have

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>a pretty important offseason still ahead of them, a lot

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 2>of moves left to be made, at least a lot

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>of people think so. After missing out on Kyle Schwarber

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and this week signing lefty reliever Caleb Ferguson on here

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 2>right Now on the Carrier RNL Carrier Sports Talk program

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 2>presented by Kelsey Chevrolet to talk about it all as

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Pat Brennan. He does a great job on the Bengals beat,

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>but also covers the Cincinnati Reds. Hey, Pat, thanks for

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>joining me. How you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Tracks, I'm doing okay. Pronounced board.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to try it because I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to dull the listeners with my inability to pronounce that word.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't like.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just trying to help here.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that, and I appreciate the uh dictation alliteration

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<v Speaker 2>lesson here live on w W. I appreciate that, pack,

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess we have to start with your thoughts

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>on the Reds missing out on Kyle Schwarber. There are

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who criticize the Reds for making

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the offer to Kyle Schwarber and then saying, well, We're

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>just going to bank that money and save it to

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>spend somewhere else, instead of going out and making a

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>push for let's say, Pete Alonso or someone else that

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>could provide a power bat in the lineup. What are

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on that? What's your biggest takeaway?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, obviously there's some calculus done there about

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 4>Schwarber versus the rest of the eligible field for kind

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 4>of that power hitting likely DH type role that the

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 4>Reds were trying to fill via Schber. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>the calculation was probably and there's been some reporting of

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 4>this effect tracks. The calculation there was that this is

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 4>a local guy. He can drive some revenue because he's local.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:32.719
<v Speaker 4>He can also drive revenue because he's such an enormous

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 4>name in the game today and over the last certainly

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 4>over the last few years when he's really elevated his power,

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 4>the strength of his power hitting to the top of

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 4>the game or near the top. And I guess there

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 4>was a calculus that that popularity could offset some of

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 4>the costs right up front just by bringing him in.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 4>His name offsets some of what it would cost to

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 4>retain him. And I think it's probably true that other

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 4>power hitters in that conversation, like PETERLNDO, might not have

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 4>the same effect at the box office. So yeah, look,

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 4>I'll say this much regardless of whether we agree or disagree,

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 4>or fans agreed disagree with that. With that math that

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I think was done there, I can understand why it

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 4>would be deemed disheartening to see that money then come

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 4>off the table and then oh, the Reds are back

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 4>to working, working within this the very tight parameters of

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 4>the initial budget that we thought they had.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my problem with that. Let me jump in here.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Here's my problem with that. Are you trying to become

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>a significantly better baseball team on the field in twenty

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty six addressing an obvious need, which was the lack

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.240
<v Speaker 2>of a power bat in the middle of the lineup

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to help protect La Dala Cruz, Or are you trying

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 2>to sell seats? My thinking is, if you're trying to

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>become the best baseball team, go to the second best

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 2>bat in the lineup, make a play. And if you

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>miss on Pete Alonso, well you missed on two. You

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>went over two, which power hitters normally do. See that

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>putt that I just made there, But anyway you made

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the attempt, you were at least in the batter's box

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 2>taking your hacks. The problem a lot of Reds fans

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>have and I was at a party last night and

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>talking with a couple of long standing season ticket holders,

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, well, we made one we made one move,

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to label it as half hearted,

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>but they made one attempt, and they're like, oh, well

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't meant to be. We're going to move on

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 2>to something else. That's that's a loser's attitude, and it

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 2>frustrates so many fans in this town. And before it

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 2>was a Bengal town and a football town, it was

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously a very rick baseball town, and it infuriates fans

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>that the Reds don't go out and try to improve

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>the product on the field address an obvious need.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree, I get it, And you know, the money.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 4>The Reds have tied up a lot of their available

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 4>budget dollars to now three free agent pitchers, one of

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 4>which is that we're obviously all very familiar with an

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Emilio Pagan. But I think the cumulative sum of the

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 4>cost of those players and their entirety is less than

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 4>the Phillies spend. Well, okay, the Phillies will spend on

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 4>one reliever, Brad Keller, who they signed to a two

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 4>year to twenty two million dollar deal. So look, it's

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 4>not this isn't new from the Reds. They're adding around

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 4>the edges. They're adding where they feel like they can, and.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>They're hoping their primo prosps becks fill in the void

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>in the meat of the order. And it's a strategy.

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 2>And I guess you're that's why I'm having you on.

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 2>You're doing a fabulous job of articulating that that is

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 2>their strategy, that the bats that cost primo dollars are

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 2>going to have to be filled in by players the

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Reds already have under team control so that they can

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 2>fill on the edges. I don't know. When I hear that,

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, they're they're trying to do it in

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>the cheapest way possible, and I just think in the

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>long run, your odds diminish greatly when you take that tact.

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh sure, well, listen, I'll go back to the end

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 4>of year. I don't want to call it a news

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 4>conference because it's a little more intimate than that, but right,

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Nick cal and uh Brad Metter meet with the.

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember that.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, Hey, I know you were cowboy, and

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 4>you know the way I interpreted Nick's comments were that,

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess I just it wasn't a specific comment,

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 4>but I walked out of there feeling like if I'm

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 4>reading the room and interpreting these things as I do

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 4>and as I heard him talk, I think the Reds

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 4>believe they will have a very challenging task in front

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 4>of them this offseason getting back to eighty four wins,

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 4>and I think that's where that's been born out to be.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 4>It certainly looks like a good reaf on the situation today,

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 4>and I do think they will be hard pressed to

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 4>be a better team than they were last year. You

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 4>mentioned the word you're hoping for prospects to fill in

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 4>and this and that hope is a big part of

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 4>the equation here. There's no question you are hoping that

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Matt McClain turns it around. You're hoping for a full

0:38:55.040 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 4>season of healthy Spencer Steer. You're hoping that Dela Cruz

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 4>finally produces not just plays for one sixty two, but

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 4>delivers well. I think what has to be MVP caliber

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 4>play for one sixty two.

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard anything more on the reporting and some

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 2>of the rumors that I've read in the last couple

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>of weeks about Ellie d La Cruz and the Reds

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 2>giving or not giving him permission to play in the

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>World Baseball Classic.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I had seen the rumors. My impression remains that he

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 4>will participate in the World Baseball Classic, and I understand that.

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think if if I'm not mistaken, I'll

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.439
<v Speaker 4>just let's say this was a rumor too. I think

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 4>MLB had a social media post that was later taken down,

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 4>if I'm not mistaken, and I am willing to be

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:58.760
<v Speaker 4>corrected on that. But yeah, there were some ripples about

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 4>him maybe not being allowed to go. But I will

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 4>tell you that what the Inquirer reported and what my

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 4>colleague and good friend Gordon Wittenmeyer reported from the winter

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 4>meetings in Orlando was that I think Albert Pooholes is

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 4>managing the team, the national team, and he seemed very

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 4>convinced that Ellie would be in the Whoever the manager

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 4>is of that national team very convinced that Ellie would

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 4>be a part of it. And from that I really

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 4>had no I didn't feel a strong inkling to lean

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 4>too much into the rumor mill after what I saw

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 4>coming out of Orlando.

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 2>God, so what about NOELV. Martegs Because to me, of

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>the names that you just mentioned, the one you did

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 2>not Mention is probably the biggest name. They are going

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to depend on him and south Stewart in the middle

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of that order to really provide the Reds what they're

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 2>not going to get out of Kyle Schwarber because they

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>missed on him in free agency. I think their plan

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 2>B was, Okay, we don't get a big bat, We're

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>just going to have to step on salth Stewart and

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 2>nouelve Marte. And I think there was enough evidence in

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the play that we saw in the last six to

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 2>eight weeks of the twenty twenty five season to suggest

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 2>that they could be ready to take that next significant

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 2>leap in twenty twenty six.

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, just starting with south Stewart. You hope

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 4>that's the case, except that the National ball I mean

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 4>all of baseball, not just the National League, is going

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 4>to have a whole offseason to pick his approach at

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 4>the play depart and you know, pitchers will adjust to

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 4>him after not mostly not having seen him until late

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 4>in the MLB regular season last year and for a

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 4>hot second in the playoffs. So how does he adjust

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 4>to that adjustment? And then that kind of back and

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 4>forth game begins and continues on for his whole career,

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 4>but I think the first two rounds of that can

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 4>be really challenging for a young player like him. So

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 4>we'll we'll see about South Stewart. Uh, Noel Marte, I

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 4>feel much more confident about He's beyond that phase in

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:25.479
<v Speaker 4>his career. He became very reliable in the field, which

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 4>was you know, left field was sorry. Right field was

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 4>a black hole for the Reds defensively at times last year.

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 4>But so so that's a good thing. But you know,

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 4>noelva is yet too show to offer to give the

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Reds what they need to protect Ellie and do all

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 4>the things that Kyle Schwarver would have provided. We haven't

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 4>seen that yet from Noelvie over.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Thing.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Let me jump in here. That's the thing, please they

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>had the Reds haven't seen it consistently from Noelve, but

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I think they're in the second half of last year

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>they started to get the sense that this kid is

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 2>ready to play one hundred and fifty games a year

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and be a massive force for us. I mean the

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 2>play he made the final home game, leaping above the

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 2>wall making that catch that was the iconic moment of

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty five Red season. The feel good moment

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>of the year. I don't think there's any question about that.

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's appropriate that it was Marte making that play,

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>because that's really if you want to look at what

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 2>the reds Field twenty twenty six can be, it's that

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>final play of the year at home. Anyway, of course

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>they had the three year Milwaukee, but the final play

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 2>of the year at home. That's what I think the

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 2>reds Field the ceiling is for next year.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 4>Yep, I agree, And again I think a lot of

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 4>that once again, even with Noelvie, predicated on hope and

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 4>projections and things we're yet to see with our own

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 4>two eyes. I think, you know, but these are I

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 4>want to give credit to Nick Crawl and Brad Matter.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 4>These are these sharp guys. Everything they calculated about last season,

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 4>most things, I should say, uh, that was good enough

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.399
<v Speaker 4>to get them to the playoffs, and let's just see,

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 4>let's just see what they can do with the rest

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 4>of this offseason. I think they made some significant additions

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 4>to last year's team, guys that ended up being significant

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 4>later on after in the new year. So I'm not

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm not ready to say that this offseason was a failure.

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 4>And I don't think anyone else should, just based on

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 4>the fact that they didn't land Kyle's for that was

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 4>always kind of a long shot.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's move on real quick. We've got a couple

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>of minutes here. They did make a move this week

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 2>four point five million for one year for lefty reliever

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Caleb Ferguson. A lot of fans are going to say who,

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 2>But this is a guy that Terry Francona joked with

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.919
<v Speaker 2>Caleb Ferguson, and Ferguson acknowledged this on a zoom call

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 2>from Thursday. He's glad he doesn't have to game plan

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 2>for going forward and just tell us a little bit

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>about Caleb Ferguson. He can of kind of, I think,

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 2>take the role of Brent Suter in that bullpen. But

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>he's a lefty reliever who can get a lot of

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 2>lefties and righties out.

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think he feels an area of need

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 4>as a lefty reliever in the bullpen. He alluded last

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 4>night on that zoom call you mentioned to the varying

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 4>nature of his role and that he expects to be

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 4>called upon to do a variety of different jobs for

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:54.280
<v Speaker 4>the Reds out of the bullpen, and I think equating

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.399
<v Speaker 4>that to the Brent Suter role is probably a fair

0:45:56.440 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 4>assessment by you drags. But I mean this is this

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 4>is another guy who you know. Now, the Reds have

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 4>everyone returning from last year, you know, bringing in guys

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 4>with postseason experience to clubhouse last year that had none

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.880
<v Speaker 4>was a big deal for the Reds. Now most of

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 4>the guys returning experienced the postseason on a relatively high level.

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 4>You faced the eventual champion Dodgers in a series that

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 4>was you know, they got swept out of it. So

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 4>everyone has playoff experience. Caleb Ferguson has big time playoff

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 4>experience with multiple franchises. Last year it was with the

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Seattle Mariners, and he did get knocked around a fair amount,

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 4>but that was the first time in his career, over

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 4>several postseason runs, that he had really faced any kind

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 4>of adversity. He was a phenomenal postseason pitcher prior to

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 4>that with the Dodgers, and I believe the Astros. So

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 4>this is a guy with postseason pedigree. You love that

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 4>he is a veteran guy. You like that too, and

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 4>he's not too old, So I think it was a

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 4>great pickup by the Reds kind of a sneaky under

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 4>the radar one. This is a guy that started the

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 4>year with the Pittsburgh Pirates last season tracks, so some

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 4>Reds fans might actually be familiar with his work, and

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 4>good work tends to get overshadowed in Pittsburgh these days.

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 4>And obviously the Mariners thought highly enough of him to

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 4>bring him on for their stretch run and playoff run.

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Like I said, he got roughed up. Well, he pitched

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 4>beginnings for them in the playoffs.

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 2>We've got forty five seconds here, Pat, I want to

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 2>get your opinion on Catel Marte of Arizona. He is

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the one name I hear that could be a blockbuster trade.

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna require a lot. But what are your thoughts

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 2>on the Reds possibly making a bid at him at

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>the age of thirty two.

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 4>I'd love to see it happen. Talk about postseason pedigree.

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 4>This guy tore up the National League side of the

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 4>bracket in twenty twenty three, as the Diamondbacks went on

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 4>to win the NL that year. You know, there are

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 4>some red flags that don't necessarily translate to a Terry

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 4>francona managed team. I think This is a guy that

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 4>probably needs to have a veteran leadership to check him

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 4>at times. But I think it would be a great addition,

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 4>a big name and someone who could do a significant

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 4>amount of a you know, not a bad backup option.

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 4>And if you couldn't get Kyles forber right, all right,

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 4>he is.

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Pat Brennan does a fabulous job covering the Reds for

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati Inquirer, and of course he's with me on

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati Bengals beat for the arrest of this season.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Three more games remaining, he will be traveling to Miami

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>to cover the Bengals along with Kelsey Conway of the

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Inquirer. Be sure to cover his great coverage there. Pat,

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>thanks so much. We got to let you go. We

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 2>got news at the bottom of the hour. Then another

0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 2>inquire a great terrific reporters, Shell Dermert will be joining

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 2>me on the other side to talk about how in

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the world Musketeers can forget about that blowout loss to

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Creighton on Wednesday and move on to Georgetown tomorrow. On

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0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.800
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0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:44.000
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0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:47.759
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0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 2>let's say hour and twenty five minutes.

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 4>UH.

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.280
<v Speaker 2>To do that, We're going to take your calls five one, three, seven, nine, seven,

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>thousan one eight hundred the Big One. We want to

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 2>get to a couple of calls before we get to

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Shelby Dehmer, who is patiently waiting online. Dick in Dayton.

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:11.799
<v Speaker 2>You've been waiting very patiently. How you doing, Dick? What

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 2>is on your mind? We've got about one minute right here.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Mike, good to talk to you.

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 5>I just was a little concerned this year.

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 7>I was hoping the Bengals, but Joe Burrow came back

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 7>and then all this collapse at once, and I just

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 7>can't understand what's going on.

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:32.359
<v Speaker 5>Mike.

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 7>They're a better team than this, but the defense needs

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 7>help and everything, and if they keep losing, I'm scared

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 7>they're gonna lose Taylor and they might have to get

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 7>a defensive coordinator.

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 4>Well your opinion about that, so good question, Dick.

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the call. They hired Al Golden from Notre

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Dame last year to replace lou Ana Arumo, who's done

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 2>pretty good things this year in Indianapolis in a similar role.

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I think second year under our Golden will make a difference.

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:05.439
<v Speaker 2>I think the maturation of guys like DJ Turner, Dax Hill,

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and Miles Murphy entering his third year is gonna matter.

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Chris Jenkins on the ir but he as of today

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 2>with an ankle injury, but he will be entering his

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 2>third year next season. Zach Taylor said this morning he

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 2>is going to make a big leap. They're very confident

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 2>of that. They have to. This is non negotiable. The

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Bengals have to go out spend the money on defense

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and hit in the draft. They have to replicate what

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:37.800
<v Speaker 2>they did after the twenty twenty season and before I'm sorry,

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 2>what they did in twenty twenty free agency and twenty

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty one free agency to set the table for the

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>runs in twenty one and twenty two. That is non negotiable.

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 2>The Bengals absolutely positively have to reconstruct their defense. I

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.760
<v Speaker 2>think everybody in the building knows it. The big question

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 2>is whether or not you trust the people picking the

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 2>groceries to use an old bill ourselves line. Do you

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 2>trust the people buying the groceries to cook the meal?

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 2>That is what it's going to come down to. We

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 2>got time for one more Mark. I've got thirty seconds.

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:13.280
<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about the Reds. What's on your mind?

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 8>Well, I just want to say everybody's upset about the

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 8>Schwarmer thing and you and while the Reds didn't sign them,

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 8>and could we all agree? I think the Reds could

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 8>spend a little more money than they do. But let's

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.359
<v Speaker 8>keep in mind the Philadelphia Phillies are in the eighth

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 8>largest market in the United States. They just signed a

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 8>new television deal. I think that guarantees them about two

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 8>and a half billion dollars over the next twenty years.

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 8>And you know, the Reds are not going to compete

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:40.840
<v Speaker 8>with that. Though maybe if you've got a new ownership

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 8>in here, maybe they get more aggressive with television.

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 4>Could do something, but.

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 8>The numbers are what they are, and that's just the

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 8>reality of what we have.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 2>That is a great, great point mark, And you know,

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I think certainly what Reds fans have to understand is

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 2>you've got to hit. Just like the Bengals have to

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.399
<v Speaker 2>hit with their draft picks, the Reds have to hit

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 2>with their prospects. That's non negotiable. That is the business

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 2>model set by the Minnesota Twins back in the early

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 2>two thousands, set by the Houston Astros in the last

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen years. They did a great job with that.

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Then they came in and spent a little bit more money.

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>It is doable. Even with the Milwaukee Brewers. Now you

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 2>see what they've done with Pat Murphy, a terrific field manager.

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 2>They've done a great job of developing their young players.

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 2>The Reds have to follow that model. They just have

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>to be more successful in doing that. I do think

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 2>there's hope for next year. I am not of the

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 2>belief that just because they didn't get Kyle Schwarber, all

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 2>hope is lost for twenty twenty six. I'm not of

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 2>that belief. I think there is enough talent stockpiled in

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:50.760
<v Speaker 2>the organization. Maybe not deep down in the farm system anymore,

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.280
<v Speaker 2>but it is ready to contribute at the major league level.

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>We talked about Noel ve Marte, we talked about Sal Stewart,

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 2>guys like that, Chase Burns of the See on the

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.280
<v Speaker 2>pitching side, I think the Reds going to be okay

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty six. They need maybe to make one

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 2>or two more moves to provide some depth. All right,

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 2>it is time to move on to the guest that

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:16.359
<v Speaker 2>we have slated for this segment, and he is here

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to clean up what was a mess at Centas or

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 2>at least talk about cleaning up the mess that was

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Centas Center on Wednesday night, the worst home loss in

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Xavier history. That's certainly the worst loss in the history

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:33.799
<v Speaker 2>of Cintas Center, a forty one point blowout ninety eight

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:39.320
<v Speaker 2>to fifty seven to Creighton. Shelby Dermer of the Cincinnati Inquirer. Shelby,

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 2>you are otherwise known as no Strodermis, please.

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Explain that's correct.

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 9>So before the season, I went game by games through

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.879
<v Speaker 9>davor schedule. Obviously a lot of intrigue with a new,

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 9>completely new roster, only one returning player, no returning minutes,

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 9>and just tried to pick game by game and right

0:54:59.840 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 9>now now after I didn't expect what happened on Wednesday

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 9>to happened, but I did expect the laws, maybe not

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 9>by forty one points. But so far I'm twelve or twelve, Mike,

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.799
<v Speaker 9>and I have them at eight and four. Since I

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 9>can pick twelve games in a row, you think i'd

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:16.920
<v Speaker 9>have the wherewithal of like you know, pick the trash

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 9>cans down every Sunday or other things like that, but

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 9>that sneaks up on me. But so far perfect on

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 9>the Zavier season, have them at eight and four.

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 2>So we are going to do what is called in

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the business tease. The segment tees the outcome and the

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 2>finale of this segment. So we will hold off on

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 2>what you are predicting for tomorrow in Washington, d C.

0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 2>The Georgetown Hoya is with I think a bit of

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.919
<v Speaker 2>a surprise. Even though Marquette is having a down year,

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 2>they won their big East opener on the road on

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Wednesday night at Marquette. Your thoughts on what Xavier has

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 2>to do, first of all to correct the mistakes that

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:59.320
<v Speaker 2>happened on Wednesday night, Right, it has.

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 9>To start on defense and if any time you give up.

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 9>You know, that was the largest loss in Davier history

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 9>at home.

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 4>It's also the.

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 9>Most points they've allowed at home. Mike's ninety eight points.

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Creaton almost cracking triple digits.

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:11.879
<v Speaker 9>Creighton came in, they weren't shooting the three ball, well,

0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:13.880
<v Speaker 9>they shot a lot of them. They came in and

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 9>got whatever they wanted. They were sixteen to thirty three

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 9>from three, the most three Xavier had allowed since seventeen

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 9>to Evansville a few years back. Storing Travis Steele era.

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 9>Creighton shot over sixty percent from the field. And so

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:29.879
<v Speaker 9>it all starts defensively, and for this matchup, you know,

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 9>Georgetown's gonna pick on some of the week. This says

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 9>Xavier had. Xavier went to this small ball lineup, so

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:38.439
<v Speaker 9>they have their bigger guys like Anthony Robinson and pop

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 9>Enji are on the bench.

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 4>For the majority of the game.

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 9>Small ball lineup that helps you a lot on offense

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.280
<v Speaker 9>with things like taking care of the ball and passing.

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 9>Xavier's excelled at that, but it really hurts in rim

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 9>protection and Xavier's been just really punished by the remp

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 9>or in the paint so far this season. And that's

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 9>what you're going to get against Georgetown. They don't shoot

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 9>the three well, but they know that they only shoot

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 9>about thirty five percent of their field goal attempt for

0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 9>beyond the arc, so they want to get inside the behavior.

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's a physicality issue right now. They have

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 9>to buck up on defense and find a way to

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 9>keep Georgetown away from the basket. Easier said than done.

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Trey Carroll came down to earth a little bit. He

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 2>was held in single digits, as you wrote for your

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 2>story on Cincinnati dot Com. Held in single digits seven

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 2>points for the first time this season. In Jovonne Milisevich,

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 2>he was scoreless, going zero for eight. And Roddy Anderson,

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the only player on the roster last year, and of

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 2>course he was injured he did not play last year,

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 2>but he was the only returning player. He scored all

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 2>twelve of his points in the second half. They're just

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 2>going to have to get more. I think those three

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:51.439
<v Speaker 2>players that I just mentioned Milisavich, Carol and Anderson they

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 2>have to be big players tomorrow if the Muskies are

0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 2>going to come away with a win on the road.

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:00.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yovan is a big guess.

0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:03.439
<v Speaker 9>Catlysts I think, for you know, xavior's turnaround in non

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 9>conference play, that five game winning streak, that sixth and

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 9>one stretch kind of he entered really the fold. At Iowa,

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 9>Zavier lost that game, gave up fifty plus points of

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 9>the paint, but Jovonne stepped in hit a couple of threes,

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 9>and he's been that guy that stretches defenses out. We

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 9>talked about that in the shootout Davier. With five guys

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 9>on the perimeter who are a threat to shoot three,

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 9>it allowed Treke Carroll to have some one on one opportunities.

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.920
<v Speaker 9>Then in Charleston, Yovann hit ten threes. He had twelve

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 9>or fourteen excuse me, over a three game stretch. So yeah,

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 9>a bit of an outlier performance if you if you

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 9>look at his game log throughout the year, to just

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 9>play eighteen minutes going over eight and then Trake Carroll,

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:44.320
<v Speaker 9>like you mentioned, first game in single digits. So you know,

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 9>you hope he turns it around, but I guess you know,

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 9>Richard Bettino wasn't wasn't ready to say it was a

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 9>bright spot, but really it kind of was with Malik

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:54.439
<v Speaker 9>Messina more. Yeah, if you look back at their first

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 9>two games, they were they were clunky wins. Xavier was

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Speaker 9>twenty point twenty plus point five over Marrits and Lemoyne.

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 9>They won both of those games by five point or

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.479
<v Speaker 9>four points against marits five points against Lamoines, and both

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 9>times the offense just the lid was on the basket

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:12.439
<v Speaker 9>until Malik the sina Moore took over. And he's been

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 9>you know, really quiet, only like four to three pointers

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 9>over the last nine games, and then he got going.

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 9>Against Creighton, Xavier led at the first media time out.

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 9>You wouldn't think that from a box score full of

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 9>you know, concerning numbers, but they led early ten to nine.

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 9>Cina Moore ended up with fourteen points, his first time

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 9>in double digits since the second game of the season.

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 9>So his aggressiveness, his assertiveness on the offensive end, along

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 9>with doing good things like rebounding and assisting, which he

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:43.240
<v Speaker 9>was already doing when he wasn't scoring. So trying to

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 9>get you know, all these guys on the same page.

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 9>Not a lot of room for error for Xavier's offense.

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:51.919
<v Speaker 9>But you know, Milie getting on track was a step

0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 9>in the right direction.

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 2>If you want hope and you're a Xavier fan, you

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 2>go back to the way Richard Patino handled the Santa

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Clara loss, how he reacted, how the team responded to that.

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 2>And yes they lost to I believe it was Iowa,

1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.360
<v Speaker 2>but in a much more competitive game. And yes they

1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 2>lost by one at Georgia. We know George's pretty legitimate team,

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:15.360
<v Speaker 2>especially down there on the road. But you see the

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:17.960
<v Speaker 2>way they responded. That's why I think there's hope for

1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:21.080
<v Speaker 2>this Xavier team. I yes, it was a terrible, horrific

1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:26.080
<v Speaker 2>loss on your home court, but the way Patinos troops

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 2>handled the Santa Clara loss, which was eye opening, it

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Speaker 2>gives me hope that I think they're going to respond

1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the right way going forward.

1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you brought up the perfect pair of examples there,

1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:41.240
<v Speaker 9>Mike Is. You know, you had that Santa Clara loss

1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:43.440
<v Speaker 9>where you know the whole crowd, You've been in that

1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:46.080
<v Speaker 9>bunker at Sindtop Center, and you know all those fans

1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:49.880
<v Speaker 9>are saying, you know everything, you know, all the negative

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:52.080
<v Speaker 9>things about you as they're walking out with ten minutes

1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:53.880
<v Speaker 9>to go and Santa Clara is pulling away.

1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 4>And then you go to Iowa, like you said, competitive.

1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 9>Nineteen point loss again, you rebound four days later, you

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.320
<v Speaker 9>win thirty. Then you know the Georgia is just a

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:05.919
<v Speaker 9>backbreaking law. Come back from down sixteen to the second half,

1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:07.680
<v Speaker 9>lose on a last second shot, But then what do

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:08.680
<v Speaker 9>you do two days later?

1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:12.280
<v Speaker 4>You take care of West Virginia by ten. That really

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:13.640
<v Speaker 4>start jump starts to run.

1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.360
<v Speaker 9>So the way this team is responded to adversity this

1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:20.080
<v Speaker 9>season is, you know what you hang your hat on

1:01:21.080 --> 1:01:23.720
<v Speaker 9>moving forward and just hope that they take this Creighton

1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:26.320
<v Speaker 9>game as you know, a big wake up call. You

1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:29.160
<v Speaker 9>know you're riding high after five straight wins, including one

1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:32.000
<v Speaker 9>in the cross down shootout. You finished an on conference

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:34.600
<v Speaker 9>at eight and three. Kind of reading the headlines maybe

1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:36.920
<v Speaker 9>a little bit, but Creighton certainly brings you back down

1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:40.000
<v Speaker 9>to earth. A coach McDermott led team can do that

1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:42.120
<v Speaker 9>to you with the way they can shoot. So you

1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 9>hope it's they can respond to adversity like they have

1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:46.280
<v Speaker 9>all year and that you know they got a wake

1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:48.400
<v Speaker 9>up call that you know it's it's go time in

1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:50.560
<v Speaker 9>the Big East and there's no nights off and and

1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:51.680
<v Speaker 9>it's a it's a grind.

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought you had a terrific quote from Richard

1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Patino in your story. They didn't show up to watch

1:01:57.600 --> 1:02:01.479
<v Speaker 2>that Patino said of the fan sentas that was about

1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:04.560
<v Speaker 2>as humbling and I'm not an arrogant person by any means,

1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:06.920
<v Speaker 2>but fourteen years as a coach, I don't know if

1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I've ever had one of those in a league game

1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.760
<v Speaker 2>on opening night like that. He is Shelby Dermer. He

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<v Speaker 2>does a fabulous job covering the Xavier Musketeers for the

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com boots on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>He will be in our nation's capital tomorrow covering Xavier

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<v Speaker 2>and the Georgetown Hoyas in game number two of the

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<v Speaker 2>Big East schedule. You can also follow him at give

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<v Speaker 2>me your Twitter handle, I don't want to get.

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<v Speaker 4>It wrong at Inquire Shelby.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, and you can also call him Noster

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<v Speaker 2>Dermis the next time you see him out in public,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what he is known for. Best around Shelby,

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<v Speaker 2>You're the best. Thanks for taking some time out on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday night. Enjoy the game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely all right.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Shelby Dermom. My name is Mike Petralia. And on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of news at the top of the hour,

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk some UC basketball and Wes Miller and

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<v Speaker 2>John Cunningham with Russ Heltman of SI dot Com. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Mike Petralia, and you are listening to RNL

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<v Speaker 2>Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on News Radio

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

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<v Speaker 2>And Welcome to the third and final hour of RNL

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<v Speaker 2>Carriers Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on News Radio

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW. I have had the great privilege and

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<v Speaker 2>honor of filling in for Lance McAllister for the previous

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<v Speaker 2>two hours. We're going to try to finish on a

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<v Speaker 2>very strong note here in the final sixty minutes of

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<v Speaker 2>this program. It'll be Russ Heltman joining me in a

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<v Speaker 2>few moments of SI dot com talking all things Cincinnati Bearcats.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we'll have Gabby Sorrentino of Fox nineteen. She will

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<v Speaker 2>be down in Miami covering the Bengals and Dolphins, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about the Bengals and some other fun stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some cultural topics on the docket. We'll see. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>wait and see what Gabby has in store for us,

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<v Speaker 2>but that will be the way we finish out the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Sterling takes over. The show takes over the studio,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say at nine o'clock he's with you, and

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<v Speaker 2>from nine o'clock until midnight, just about getting underway out

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<v Speaker 2>in Norman, Oklahoma, the CFP, the College Football Playoff, officially

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<v Speaker 2>begins with first round games. Tonight. It is number nine

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama taking on number eight Oklahoma. I find that to

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<v Speaker 2>be a fascinating matchup because in years past you would

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<v Speaker 2>just say Alabama is the blue blood college football program

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<v Speaker 2>that go in and take on any opponent anytime, and

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<v Speaker 2>take on Oklahoma and beat Oklahoma. I'm not so sure

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<v Speaker 2>this time. I think Oklahoma probably beats them in a

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<v Speaker 2>close one. Tomorrow. The three other first round games number

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<v Speaker 2>ten Miami at number seven Texas A and M Number

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<v Speaker 2>eleven Tulane takes on number six Ole Miss. That's at

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<v Speaker 2>three point thirty the Miami, Texas A and M game

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<v Speaker 2>at noon, and then the afternoon or the evening of

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<v Speaker 2>college football winds up with number twelve James Madison at

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<v Speaker 2>number five Oregon that is at seven thirty PM. But

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<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned, I want to bring on my next guest.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a good friend of mine. At all things

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bearcats. We always manage to have interesting conversations during

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<v Speaker 2>play and during the timeouts. He is the one and

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<v Speaker 2>only Russ Helpman again covers the Bearcats for SI dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, Russ on this Friday night.

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<v Speaker 10>Mike, awesome man? How you doing on this Friday night?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing well. I guess I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 2>with college basketball and start with the Bearcats and what

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to do against Alabama State. Wes Miller

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<v Speaker 2>needed a blowout win and you got a couple of good,

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<v Speaker 2>feel good storylines out of Wednesday. If you're Wes Miller,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the big win and you got Gisel James

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to the Bearcats and scoring in double figures.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like that's the kind of at least one

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<v Speaker 2>game boost that Wes Miller needed.

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<v Speaker 10>Gisel looked awesome, Mike and his return, and just at

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<v Speaker 10>the maybe not the right time, obviously a third of

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<v Speaker 10>the way into the season already being six and four,

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<v Speaker 10>you're back against the wall having to win definitely on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 10>or you're in a position in conference play where there's

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<v Speaker 10>just going to have to be a complete flip of

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<v Speaker 10>the script compared to the record and conference over the

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<v Speaker 10>last two seasons. Coming into the Big Twelve, but Jigsel

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<v Speaker 10>looked really really good. Bob Bob Miller looked good. They

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<v Speaker 10>were able to get some more things go in the

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<v Speaker 10>half court, get some more good looks at the rim

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<v Speaker 10>than they had been in most of these games coming

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<v Speaker 10>in in the this action against Avaca State. But it's

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<v Speaker 10>a Hornets team that they took on. Mike was three

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<v Speaker 10>hundred and ninth on kem Palm coming into a game

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<v Speaker 10>in total defensive efficiency, so it's not a huge thing

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<v Speaker 10>to hang your hat on. There were some good tendencies

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<v Speaker 10>that they could build on, and you always love to

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<v Speaker 10>see a guy like Boba Miller put up a what

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<v Speaker 10>twenty six and fourteen on eleven of twelve shooting and

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<v Speaker 10>a forty one efficiency score on the staff broadcast feed

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<v Speaker 10>that I don't think I've seen a player put up

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<v Speaker 10>an efficiency line like that in my time covering the

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<v Speaker 10>team over the last few years. So that was really

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<v Speaker 10>good to see what he can do when he gets rolling.

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<v Speaker 10>I think eight dunks from him overall, So the offense

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<v Speaker 10>looked a lot better. But obviously do it again this

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<v Speaker 10>Sunday against Clemson.

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<v Speaker 2>So what will the Bearcats have to do Sunday going

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<v Speaker 2>on the road. I mean, they had a chance against

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia and they came out strong, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>watching the first ten minutes of that game and watching

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<v Speaker 2>the final thirty minutes of the game, where I think

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<v Speaker 2>they were outscored by thirty points, it was like watching

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<v Speaker 2>two different teams.

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<v Speaker 10>Russ it was Mike, and they have to find a

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<v Speaker 10>way to stain the pace that they want to play

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<v Speaker 10>with and maybe having Gisel James in the fold is

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<v Speaker 10>going to allow them to do that and allow them

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<v Speaker 10>to break through against the Clinton team that is a

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<v Speaker 10>complete opposite style three hundred and twenty ninth I think

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<v Speaker 10>in adjusted tempo on kimpom compared to Cincinnati, who's in

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<v Speaker 10>the top seventy nationally in that stat So a contrasting

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<v Speaker 10>way to play from these two teams. And can Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 10>find a way to break through un the glass against

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<v Speaker 10>one of the best rebounding teams in the country and

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<v Speaker 10>find a way to force some live ball turnovers against

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<v Speaker 10>an elite team and taking care of the basketball and

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<v Speaker 10>finding efficient shots all around the half court. So it's

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<v Speaker 10>going to be a really really tough test once again

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<v Speaker 10>for the defense and how long it can it can

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<v Speaker 10>hold up in a game that's going to going to

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<v Speaker 10>grind them down in a kind of opposite way from

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<v Speaker 10>how fast Georgia played last weekend, and once again you

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<v Speaker 10>got to start hitting some jump shots. It's just amazing, Mike,

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<v Speaker 10>how how far below the average? A lot of these

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<v Speaker 10>guys who were really good shooters coming in and a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of new players obviously that hadn't played for UC

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<v Speaker 10>on this roster this season, and just something about fifth

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<v Speaker 10>third arena or I don't know, it's just they they

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<v Speaker 10>find a way to shoot a lot worse, and now

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<v Speaker 10>you're going into a new arena where you have no

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<v Speaker 10>experience shooting the ball. But they got to find a

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<v Speaker 10>way to break through what is also a strong three

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<v Speaker 10>point defense against Clemson and a Clemson team that's going

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<v Speaker 10>to be happy to see them shoot the amount of

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<v Speaker 10>threes that they've been accustomed to shooting the season, and

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<v Speaker 10>also obviously shooting a lot of threes and getting a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of open looks, but they just haven't been going

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<v Speaker 10>down for the bear cuts shotting up.

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<v Speaker 2>Russ Helpman of SI dot com covering all things Sincinnata

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<v Speaker 2>Bearcats Shawn A. Bayev he is to me a puzzle.

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<v Speaker 2>He is someone that is very hard to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>for West Miller and you know, in defensive West, I

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<v Speaker 2>think when they when he added Shawn Abayev to the roster,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he thought that maybe this was the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of three point shooter that could loosen up the offense

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit and allow them to do more things

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<v Speaker 2>outside inside however you want to put it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think they thought that a Byev would be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an X factor for loosening up the offense. And I consistently,

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<v Speaker 2>consistency wise, that just hasn't panned out yet anyway.

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<v Speaker 10>Mike, and there was a month again good signs of

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<v Speaker 10>maybe something brewing there for a freshman who it doesn't

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<v Speaker 10>happen right away for off freshmen. We're seeing happen right

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<v Speaker 10>away for a lot of a leaf freshmen in the

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<v Speaker 10>country right now. But that's just never been the case

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<v Speaker 10>historically where you're seeing a ton of guy really pop

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<v Speaker 10>right away. And obviously, the way that Shannabayev works, you'd

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<v Speaker 10>expect them to continue growing throughout the season. He puts

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<v Speaker 10>in as much time as anybody on the roster. But

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<v Speaker 10>from obviously what fans saw in that game, if you

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<v Speaker 10>watched a really good job of penetrating into the deep paint,

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<v Speaker 10>getting some like good looping passes over the shoulder, some

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<v Speaker 10>good no look passes for assists. I believe had a

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<v Speaker 10>stat line of thirteen six and five was the first

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<v Speaker 10>time since twenty ten that if you see Bearcats freshman

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<v Speaker 10>put up that line, first time since Sean Kirkpatrick's I

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<v Speaker 10>believe or something like that. Yeah, that's too, that too,

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<v Speaker 10>it was. So it's good to see that and good

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<v Speaker 10>to see him growing a little bit there and once again,

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<v Speaker 10>like you said, the three point shot, the looks are there,

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<v Speaker 10>the shots that he wants to get are there, and

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<v Speaker 10>you got to think they'll eventually go down. But like

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<v Speaker 10>we've been discussing sometimes, you and me on press Row,

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<v Speaker 10>it's it gets late early once you start the season

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<v Speaker 10>six and four or possibly seven, seven and five, and

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<v Speaker 10>you're facing a top twenty five, top thirty schedule the

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<v Speaker 10>rest of the way in what has been arguably the

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<v Speaker 10>best conference in the country so far.

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<v Speaker 2>How is Wes Miller handling all this? I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>see him where I see him after games, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>there at practice, you see him, you know, on conference calls,

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<v Speaker 2>what have? You see him a lot more than I do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just a full disclosure. You know that I

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<v Speaker 2>cover the games obviously, but I don't see him as

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<v Speaker 2>often as you do. And I'm just wondering if there's

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<v Speaker 2>another side of Wes that fans don't get to see

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<v Speaker 2>as often that maybe can help people understand how Wes

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<v Speaker 2>Miller is wired, and if maybe maybe not softer side,

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<v Speaker 2>but a more relaxed side, because I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of U see fans for us, think that his teams

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<v Speaker 2>play the way he coaches tense and uptight.

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<v Speaker 10>I think, well, I don't know, I would kind of

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<v Speaker 10>disagree with about the way he coaches the tense and uptights.

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<v Speaker 10>For the most part, he's been pretty I would say,

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<v Speaker 10>more reserved in recent years than he was. Maybe a

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<v Speaker 10>little bit more fiery, uh in the in the beginning

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<v Speaker 10>here you see, But overall, I would just say on

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<v Speaker 10>the demeanor of West Miller, it's it's been difficult. It's

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<v Speaker 10>been a difficult run. It's been a difficult up and down.

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<v Speaker 10>It feels like there's been some moments where obviously his

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<v Speaker 10>lack of execution as a coach has has heard his

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<v Speaker 10>teams and also just things out of his control of

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<v Speaker 10>our teams and possibly the return of Gisel James may

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<v Speaker 10>maybe getting back Jalen Haynes Uh It's it's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 10>We don't know for sure if it will happen this season,

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<v Speaker 10>but it's it's always looming out there that they could

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<v Speaker 10>have their full team for the first time in a

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<v Speaker 10>long time at a deep point in the season of

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<v Speaker 10>the West Miller era. It just there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of injury that have knocked out some of their momentum

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<v Speaker 10>throughout different parts of his seasons. But overall, I think

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<v Speaker 10>what I've what I saw from him, especially on Thursday

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<v Speaker 10>on Thursday after the game, was just a little bit

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<v Speaker 10>more relaxed and maybe a little bit more of a

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<v Speaker 10>direction thinking and knowing that there's the gigittal James Saga

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<v Speaker 10>is maybe getting a full bow, hopefully getting a full

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<v Speaker 10>bow wrapped on it. With him back on back on

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<v Speaker 10>the team, you have another rotation player to work with.

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<v Speaker 10>And there was definitely I would say a more chipper

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<v Speaker 10>attitude from West in Uh in that showing than than

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<v Speaker 10>what we've seen in some recent press conferences from him.

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<v Speaker 10>So overall, when you can get a lot of your

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<v Speaker 10>team together, it can it can really change you're you're

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<v Speaker 10>not your attitude, but how you're feeling overall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and your outlook, I mean, certainly. And in west

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<v Speaker 2>Wes's defense, okay, he mentioned early on in the season

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<v Speaker 2>he did not have the full team, the full compliment

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<v Speaker 2>that he was hoping for, and he would say he

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<v Speaker 2>would start off a lot of news conferences in the

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<v Speaker 2>non con part to the schedule, non conference schedule, saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this isn't our full complement of players yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've just got to play through it and get

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<v Speaker 2>better as a team without our full compliment. And perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>with him seeing more players joining the roster and as

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<v Speaker 2>in Gigsel James or more players getting healthy, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to help his disposition. And I do think

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<v Speaker 2>if there's one team that could benefit from a hot

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<v Speaker 2>start in conference play, it's the Bearcats. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's I mean, you know, I'm not breaking any huge

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<v Speaker 2>news here by saying that or solving, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear physics problem, but they certainly could benefit from a

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<v Speaker 2>good start in conference play, and they certainly have a

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<v Speaker 2>huge game January. I think it's third right RUSS against

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<v Speaker 2>Houston here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, I think it's either it's one of the first

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<v Speaker 10>days of January or the last day of December. But

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<v Speaker 10>right said, it would be great to start fast, but

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<v Speaker 10>I don't believe. I believe West Moro is to nine

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<v Speaker 10>or to ten all time against Houston. It's been a brutal,

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<v Speaker 10>brutal run overall and twenty right around twenty percent hit

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<v Speaker 10>rate in Quad one games, which Cincinnati has plenty of.

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<v Speaker 10>This is the final Quad four game that they just

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<v Speaker 10>had against Alabama State. A Q one game this weekend

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<v Speaker 10>at a quasi neutral site against Clemson. It's very close

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<v Speaker 10>to Clemson. It's great I can get Greenville, so plenty

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<v Speaker 10>of Clemson evans will be there in attendance. But overall

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<v Speaker 10>it's gonna be very difficult, Mike. Like as I mentioned

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<v Speaker 10>a bove on ESPN's Basketball Power Index top it was

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<v Speaker 10>top thirty before the Alabama State game and most difficult schedules.

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<v Speaker 10>I would guess it's top twenty five now, most difficult

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<v Speaker 10>schedules left in the country for a team that has

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<v Speaker 10>clearly not played like a top twenty five outfit so far,

1:16:57.400 --> 1:17:01.599
<v Speaker 10>but does have a great collection of talent on paper

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<v Speaker 10>coming into the season, and a collection of talent that

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<v Speaker 10>they kind of melded together in the offseason, thinking that

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<v Speaker 10>they would have the collection of players that they are

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<v Speaker 10>so close to having, but right now sitting with four

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<v Speaker 10>losses in non conference play, a number that Wes Miller

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<v Speaker 10>is not used to seeing for his teams that so

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<v Speaker 10>often might we see struggle at the point where you

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<v Speaker 10>say they need to start fast and the doldrums of

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<v Speaker 10>January the adults of of February cannot hit here. Maybe

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<v Speaker 10>it'll be some shining light January while it's still gray

1:17:35.040 --> 1:17:37.720
<v Speaker 10>outside in the Tri State area, and some shining life

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<v Speaker 10>February because they get some more chemistry together with Gisel James,

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<v Speaker 10>who most importantly reconciled with his teammates, which was the

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<v Speaker 10>best thing to hear I think of all of it,

1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:49.800
<v Speaker 10>and just the way that he responded to everything that

1:17:49.920 --> 1:17:52.840
<v Speaker 10>can galvanize a team that can be enough, especially on

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<v Speaker 10>a sport in a locker room that is that tight

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<v Speaker 10>and that small, and a player of his caliber that maybe,

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<v Speaker 10>having his head straight as it is right now, can

1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:05.040
<v Speaker 10>let him play the most efficient best basketball possible and

1:18:05.200 --> 1:18:08.200
<v Speaker 10>list them up in those moments when they just collapsed

1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:12.080
<v Speaker 10>in tight, tight games down the stretch of January February

1:18:12.120 --> 1:18:13.920
<v Speaker 10>over the first two years in the Big Twelve. It

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<v Speaker 10>can't happen in those dog days of those months once again,

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<v Speaker 10>because you've already got four losses and you're looking at

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<v Speaker 10>needing at least a positive record in the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 10>right now, and probably a lot lot more if you

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<v Speaker 10>don't beat Clemson, and even if you do beat them,

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<v Speaker 10>probably a lot lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to switch gears here to football real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a couple of minutes Russ speaking with Russ

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<v Speaker 2>Helman covering the Bearcats for SI dot Com about Brendan

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<v Speaker 2>Soresby leaving for the Portal. Where does that leave the

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<v Speaker 2>football program for Scott Saderfield.

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<v Speaker 10>It's going to be very difficult next year, Mike, especially

1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:55.439
<v Speaker 10>if you look at that roster, A lot of Big

1:18:55.520 --> 1:19:00.840
<v Speaker 10>Twelve contenders on that schedule and a lot of great

1:19:00.920 --> 1:19:04.280
<v Speaker 10>talent expected to leave. We've only seen Brendan Soresby, obviously,

1:19:04.400 --> 1:19:09.200
<v Speaker 10>in donte corleone above, major major starters exit exit the program. Obviously,

1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:11.880
<v Speaker 10>dont de corleon out of elgiebuilding and go into take

1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:14.200
<v Speaker 10>his talent to the NFL. And then Brendan soors be

1:19:14.280 --> 1:19:17.360
<v Speaker 10>either the NFL or a different school in the transfer

1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:22.759
<v Speaker 10>portal and were already struggling there. Along the defensive front,

1:19:22.840 --> 1:19:26.400
<v Speaker 10>they have to, I believe, really focus in there and

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<v Speaker 10>figure out a way to cosmore havoc, cosmore disruption up

1:19:30.080 --> 1:19:33.360
<v Speaker 10>the line of scrimmage that can lead to more interceptions,

1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:37.080
<v Speaker 10>more fumbles for the second and third levels of the defense.

1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:40.200
<v Speaker 10>And then on the other side, you have your offensive

1:19:40.240 --> 1:19:42.920
<v Speaker 10>line core coming back, which is huge. You should be

1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:46.679
<v Speaker 10>able to piece together maybe only having to get one

1:19:46.800 --> 1:19:49.720
<v Speaker 10>other offensive line position filled and fill the other one

1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:53.560
<v Speaker 10>with some development coming up, and then you replenish the

1:19:54.200 --> 1:19:58.000
<v Speaker 10>receiver weapons with whoever is not going to end up

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<v Speaker 10>staying outside of Cyrus Allen, who spended his eligibility, I believe,

1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:04.639
<v Speaker 10>and I don't believe the court case the other day

1:20:04.760 --> 1:20:06.720
<v Speaker 10>that was maybe going to give him an extra one

1:20:07.120 --> 1:20:09.439
<v Speaker 10>went through all the way, but I have not followed

1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:11.080
<v Speaker 10>up on that one yet. Did not see any headminds

1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:13.680
<v Speaker 10>that so I don't think it ended up passing. But

1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.920
<v Speaker 10>it puts them in a really tough spot, Mike not

1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:21.240
<v Speaker 10>having a player of Brendan Sorosby's caliber being as healthy

1:20:21.320 --> 1:20:25.160
<v Speaker 10>as they were this season, and just fumbling issues and

1:20:25.760 --> 1:20:29.240
<v Speaker 10>fumbling opportunities down the stretch in this four game losing

1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:34.400
<v Speaker 10>streak and the strength of schedule difficulty next season, with

1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:36.360
<v Speaker 10>the amount of talent that they lost, maybe they can

1:20:36.439 --> 1:20:38.519
<v Speaker 10>replenish it. It's possible. They've done a really good job

1:20:38.560 --> 1:20:42.240
<v Speaker 10>in the Transfer portal so far with Scott cuderfield staff,

1:20:42.800 --> 1:20:45.639
<v Speaker 10>but it's not going to be easy and it's hard

1:20:45.680 --> 1:20:48.400
<v Speaker 10>to strike lightning twice like they did with Brendan Sorosby

1:20:49.000 --> 1:20:53.000
<v Speaker 10>to go seven and five with top fifteen quarterback plays.

1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:56.200
<v Speaker 10>It's going to be impressive if they can get the

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<v Speaker 10>Bowl eligibility next season with that schedule and having to

1:20:59.520 --> 1:21:03.920
<v Speaker 10>go find hopefully top fifteen and you hope, most realistically

1:21:04.040 --> 1:21:08.000
<v Speaker 10>top thirty, top forty quarterback play at the quarterback position

1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:10.880
<v Speaker 10>out of whoever you pick in the Transfer portal coming

1:21:10.960 --> 1:21:13.800
<v Speaker 10>up when it opens on January second, same day as

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<v Speaker 10>the Liberty Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed against Navy and Russ. I'm sure you'll have that

1:21:19.479 --> 1:21:23.200
<v Speaker 2>game covered very well for SI dot Com. Be sure

1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:27.240
<v Speaker 2>to cover Russ or follow Russ Helpman for all of

1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>his coverage of the UC basketball Bearcats as they enter

1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve play. It's going to be a critical season,

1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:38.400
<v Speaker 2>no doubt about it for Wes Miller and the Bearcats. Russ,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you thank you enough for taking time

1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:43.680
<v Speaker 2>out on your Friday night. You got a winner. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way. A prediction for tonight. Oklahoma Alabama, real.

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<v Speaker 10>Quick, Alabama, give me the Crimson side. I think Calen

1:21:51.680 --> 1:21:54.400
<v Speaker 10>Debor gets the job done in this big game, and

1:21:55.160 --> 1:21:57.479
<v Speaker 10>his Big twelve coach Big not Big twelve is colas

1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:02.280
<v Speaker 10>football playoff coaching experience, and it's difficult to take out

1:22:02.320 --> 1:22:04.800
<v Speaker 10>a team Mike Alabama twice in one season. So I

1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:07.880
<v Speaker 10>think they're able to overcome the Oklahoma defense tonight and

1:22:07.920 --> 1:22:08.920
<v Speaker 10>get that there.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Russ Heltman of si dot Com covering the

1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bearcats. On the other side of news, at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the hour, we will have Gabby Sorrentino talking

1:22:19.439 --> 1:22:24.040
<v Speaker 2>all things Cincinnati Bengals on the ground in Miami. It'll

1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:26.320
<v Speaker 2>be a fun conversation, so be sure to tune in

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<v Speaker 2>for that. For now, you're listening to the RNL Carrier

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk program presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on News Radio

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW Little Joe Perry, Little Steven Tyler, Little Arrowsmith.

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<v Speaker 2>Heading into the final twenty three minutes of RNL Carriers

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet here on News Radio

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW. It's been my privilegue Jan pleasure to

1:22:53.760 --> 1:22:55.960
<v Speaker 2>fill in for the last two hour, two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half hours here on the Big One for Lance McAllister.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate Lance giving me the opportunity to fill in.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to give a huge shout out to

1:23:05.400 --> 1:23:09.559
<v Speaker 2>the one and only Sean McMahon doing a flawless job

1:23:09.680 --> 1:23:13.599
<v Speaker 2>getting all of our callers lined up on the air

1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>ready to go when I go to them for our

1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:22.040
<v Speaker 2>interviews tonight. It's been a great night of guests here

1:23:22.240 --> 1:23:26.599
<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred WLW. Richard Skinner of Local twelve talking

1:23:26.680 --> 1:23:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Bengals in the six o'clock hour. Alex Frank talking Bearcats

1:23:30.200 --> 1:23:35.720
<v Speaker 2>and University of Kentucky which has a big game tomorrow afternoon.

1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Pat Brennan they have that game, by the way against

1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Saint John's in Atlanta. Pat Brennan talking all things Cincinnati

1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Reds in the seven o'clock hour. Shelby Dermer no stradermis

1:23:47.000 --> 1:23:49.960
<v Speaker 2>as we call them, covering the Xavier Musketeers there on

1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:54.280
<v Speaker 2>the road in DC tomorrow taking on the Georgetown Hoyas.

1:23:54.640 --> 1:23:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Russ Helpman just spoke with us at eight oh eight

1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:02.000
<v Speaker 2>talking all things Cincinnati Bearcats. That's football and basketball, and

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<v Speaker 2>just a few moments we will be talking with Gabby Sorrentino.

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<v Speaker 2>She is on the ground in Miami. She will be

1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:14.519
<v Speaker 2>covering the Cincinnati Bengals Miami Dolphins contest at hard Rocks

1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Stadium Sunday afternoon for Fox nineteen. Right now, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to give you an update from the first CFP game.

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<v Speaker 2>The College Football Playoffs are officially underway. Number eight Oklahoma

1:24:28.000 --> 1:24:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the host team in Norman, Oklahoma, with an early seven

1:24:31.360 --> 1:24:35.519
<v Speaker 2>to nothing lead on number nine seed Alabama. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>try to maybe give you an update before the end

1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:41.599
<v Speaker 2>of the program. But now it is time to move

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<v Speaker 2>on to our sixth and final guest here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet, and that would be Gabby Sorrentino. Gabby,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for taking time out. Have you made your way

1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to Miami yet? I made an assumption that you're already

1:24:56.920 --> 1:24:58.479
<v Speaker 2>on the ground. Are you there yet?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Tracks Well, thanks for having me. No, I'm at Highland

1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:07.600
<v Speaker 3>High School right now. Okay high school basketball. I am

1:25:07.680 --> 1:25:09.880
<v Speaker 3>headed there at five in the morning, so I think

1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll be pulling it all night or tonight. My Uber

1:25:12.880 --> 1:25:15.400
<v Speaker 3>picks me up at three this and tomorrow morning, so

1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:18.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be in Miami around nine tomorrow, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited looking forward to it. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>nice and sunny and warm, so I'm happy about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please take time out, especially with the Bengals out

1:25:28.680 --> 1:25:31.719
<v Speaker 2>of the playoff picture. You want to cover the game

1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>appropriately thoroughly, which I'm sure you will do. For the

1:25:35.640 --> 1:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>great people at Fox nineteen, Joe Danim and Jeremy Row,

1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you will do a fabulous bang up job

1:25:42.080 --> 1:25:45.599
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, But please do me a favor and soak

1:25:45.720 --> 1:25:50.439
<v Speaker 2>up some of the rays tomorrow as you get yourself relaxed,

1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:51.599
<v Speaker 2>You'll do that, you promise.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, if you know me, you know I love sunshine.

1:25:56.360 --> 1:25:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I love warm weather. So when Fox nineteen told me

1:25:58.840 --> 1:26:00.320
<v Speaker 3>that they were sending me in this game, I said,

1:26:00.360 --> 1:26:02.760
<v Speaker 3>well it was moved to one. It's not sunny night

1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:05.839
<v Speaker 3>football anymore, so can I get there a little earlier

1:26:05.920 --> 1:26:08.160
<v Speaker 3>on Saturday? And They're like, of course, going to a

1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:11.840
<v Speaker 3>eighty degree so I will definitely be getting some vitamin

1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:13.479
<v Speaker 3>D protract don't worry about.

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<v Speaker 2>That, all right, You and me are around the Bengals

1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>all the time. And the last two weeks have been unusual,

1:26:19.800 --> 1:26:21.720
<v Speaker 2>to say the very least. This is your second year

1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:25.760
<v Speaker 2>on the beat covering the Bengals for Fox nineteen, and

1:26:26.439 --> 1:26:31.280
<v Speaker 2>it's been a stressful, strenuous period, not only for Zach Taylor,

1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>but Joe Burrow and a lot of the players in

1:26:34.960 --> 1:26:38.360
<v Speaker 2>that locker room. But Joe Burrow, everybody's got an opinion

1:26:38.560 --> 1:26:42.120
<v Speaker 2>on what his comments have meant over the last couple

1:26:42.160 --> 1:26:46.040
<v Speaker 2>of weeks about how he thinks about his future in

1:26:46.120 --> 1:26:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati next year going forward. What were your takeaways the

1:26:50.640 --> 1:26:52.519
<v Speaker 2>last ten days from Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say just being here for my second

1:26:56.479 --> 1:26:59.880
<v Speaker 3>season now. I think that everything that Joe Burrow says

1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:04.040
<v Speaker 3>publicly is very strategic, and I learned that a lot

1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>last off season during super Bowl Week when he was

1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:10.120
<v Speaker 3>saying all these things about he and Jamar and Trey,

1:27:10.800 --> 1:27:16.760
<v Speaker 3>and I think that he says things really purposefully. You know, obviously,

1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:19.800
<v Speaker 3>no one in the NFL really can say where they're

1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:22.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna be long term past their contract links, right, Like,

1:27:22.840 --> 1:27:25.160
<v Speaker 3>I understand why he would say that he doesn't know,

1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:27.400
<v Speaker 3>and he's gonna have to think about some things. Of

1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:29.160
<v Speaker 3>course he is, because he has to do what's right

1:27:29.280 --> 1:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>for him in the long run. He's I don't know.

1:27:33.439 --> 1:27:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Like last week's press conference, I was sitting there and

1:27:36.040 --> 1:27:38.439
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I've never been in a Joe Burrow

1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:42.640
<v Speaker 3>press conference like this, and it was just really strange.

1:27:43.000 --> 1:27:45.519
<v Speaker 3>And you know, this week it felt like a little

1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:47.320
<v Speaker 3>more normal. I got there on the back ends. I

1:27:47.400 --> 1:27:50.720
<v Speaker 3>wasn't there for the whole thing. But yeah, I mean,

1:27:50.800 --> 1:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's been it's been really interesting. I

1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:56.680
<v Speaker 3>think you can tell that he's upset with how this

1:27:56.800 --> 1:27:59.280
<v Speaker 3>season has gone. Of course, of course he wants to

1:27:59.360 --> 1:28:01.879
<v Speaker 3>be out there whinning. They want to be playing meaningful

1:28:01.960 --> 1:28:04.920
<v Speaker 3>games and they're not. And it's really been showing in

1:28:05.000 --> 1:28:06.840
<v Speaker 3>his demeanor of the past two weeks.

1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I agree, And you know, obviously he's disappointed. And I

1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>think where maybe we read too much into it is

1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:20.760
<v Speaker 2>where we think that he was told something by the

1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:24.479
<v Speaker 2>front office. And he very well may have been told

1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>something by the front office, but to jump from Joe

1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Burrow is depressed, confused, short with the media, and very

1:28:39.640 --> 1:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's the word I'm looking for, mysterious with

1:28:43.840 --> 1:28:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the reporters at these press conferences to the team obviously

1:28:49.360 --> 1:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>told him they're not going to do anything in the

1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>off season. I just think that's a bridge too far

1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:56.439
<v Speaker 2>to cross it at this stage in the game, especially

1:28:56.800 --> 1:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>when we haven't even gotten to the off season yet, right.

1:29:01.320 --> 1:29:04.519
<v Speaker 3>No, Yeah, I completely agree. Mysterious is definitely like the

1:29:04.680 --> 1:29:08.200
<v Speaker 3>perfect word. Like it has just seemed weird. There's been

1:29:08.280 --> 1:29:12.120
<v Speaker 3>a weird vibe and a weird energy on Wednesdays when

1:29:12.200 --> 1:29:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Joe's at the podium the last two weeks, and it's

1:29:15.240 --> 1:29:16.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, like I said, I've only been here this

1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:20.679
<v Speaker 3>my second season, but there was nothing like that last

1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:23.040
<v Speaker 3>season that I can remember. So it's been really interesting

1:29:23.200 --> 1:29:25.479
<v Speaker 3>these last two weeks. And I mean, you know, what

1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:27.720
<v Speaker 3>are the next two weeks going to hold on Joe

1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Burrow's crest commonses. I'm not sure. It seems like we

1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:34.360
<v Speaker 3>were blindsided in a national headline that comes out every Wednesday.

1:29:34.880 --> 1:29:35.040
<v Speaker 10>Now.

1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, Fox nineteen is the official television station in terms

1:29:40.560 --> 1:29:43.559
<v Speaker 2>of coverage of the Cincinnati Bengals. And I'm not going

1:29:43.640 --> 1:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to put you in an uncomfortable position here, That's not

1:29:46.080 --> 1:29:50.080
<v Speaker 2>why I'm asking this question, but I'm curious in that position,

1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>have you heard anything from the front office, anybody in

1:29:54.240 --> 1:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the organization about a change in their approach how they're feel.

1:30:00.360 --> 1:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you get a vibe of that, because you know,

1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Fox nineteen does have a higher position in their working

1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:11.040
<v Speaker 2>professional relationship with the franchise than a lot of other

1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>media here in town.

1:30:14.080 --> 1:30:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll be one hundred percent honest. I don't think

1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:20.640
<v Speaker 3>that we get anything that other stations, other reporters are

1:30:20.720 --> 1:30:23.200
<v Speaker 3>getting in terms of that. Obviously, we have the live

1:30:23.280 --> 1:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>show that we do, and we have other partnership things

1:30:25.800 --> 1:30:29.280
<v Speaker 3>that we get, but in terms of getting news and

1:30:29.640 --> 1:30:32.920
<v Speaker 3>stouth from the front office, we're not getting anything special

1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:37.240
<v Speaker 3>from that. So we haven't gotten anything in that sense

1:30:37.400 --> 1:30:41.799
<v Speaker 3>of being the TV partner and getting any special treatment.

1:30:42.520 --> 1:30:45.360
<v Speaker 2>What have you enjoyed the most about watching Jamar Chase

1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>hold press conferences, play football? Anything about Jamar Because I

1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:53.320
<v Speaker 2>think he is a unicorn and Zach Taylor has used

1:30:53.360 --> 1:30:56.639
<v Speaker 2>this term to describe him and Kyle Hamilton and others

1:30:56.720 --> 1:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL. But Jamar Chase is a unicorn and

1:31:00.200 --> 1:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>he is one of the one of one. What do

1:31:03.520 --> 1:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>you enjoy the most about watching him, covering him and

1:31:08.040 --> 1:31:09.639
<v Speaker 2>just getting a chance to talk to him?

1:31:11.680 --> 1:31:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well talking to him. His laugh literally brings through

1:31:16.400 --> 1:31:19.000
<v Speaker 3>a to my Thursdays when he's sitting at the podium

1:31:19.040 --> 1:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>and he does the Jamar laugh, which I cannot imitate.

1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Jeremy Rowd does a great job that just like makes

1:31:25.680 --> 1:31:28.600
<v Speaker 3>my day. I love that he has this balance of

1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:32.880
<v Speaker 3>being serious talking football. He has so much football knowledge

1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:35.479
<v Speaker 3>that he brings to the podium on Thursdays, so then

1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:37.840
<v Speaker 3>we can have so much fun with Jamar Chase. And

1:31:37.920 --> 1:31:40.280
<v Speaker 3>I think that that's what I love the most is

1:31:40.360 --> 1:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>you get that really balance with him of Okay, let's

1:31:42.960 --> 1:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>talk football, let's talk the game, and then we're talking

1:31:45.000 --> 1:31:47.679
<v Speaker 3>about lucky terms and we're talking about all these random

1:31:47.760 --> 1:31:50.519
<v Speaker 3>things and Thursday night football with him, and he has

1:31:50.640 --> 1:31:53.719
<v Speaker 3>fun with the reporters and he has fun with everybody

1:31:53.800 --> 1:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>in the room. So I think when it comes to

1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:58.760
<v Speaker 3>covering him, I love that balance that we have with him.

1:31:59.439 --> 1:32:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Watching our case, I mean it's incredible. Obviously you said it,

1:32:03.640 --> 1:32:07.040
<v Speaker 3>he's a unicorn. Every time he touches the ball, you

1:32:07.160 --> 1:32:09.720
<v Speaker 3>think that something. You think something can happen, even if

1:32:09.760 --> 1:32:12.000
<v Speaker 3>there are three guys on him, even if it looks

1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:13.840
<v Speaker 3>like he's gonna get tackle, he slips out of it

1:32:13.840 --> 1:32:16.000
<v Speaker 3>and he makes a big play with all of the dyak.

1:32:17.040 --> 1:32:18.760
<v Speaker 3>You know I did, like I think someone in his

1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:20.680
<v Speaker 3>press conference ass you know, it's been a long time

1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:23.040
<v Speaker 3>since he's scored a touchdown. I was thinking about that

1:32:23.120 --> 1:32:25.200
<v Speaker 3>the other day because I was like, man, it seems

1:32:25.200 --> 1:32:26.840
<v Speaker 3>like it's been a minute since we've seen a gritty

1:32:26.880 --> 1:32:30.280
<v Speaker 3>in the end zone. Maybe that'll come in Miami. But

1:32:30.560 --> 1:32:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that he is such a fun player to watch,

1:32:33.240 --> 1:32:36.120
<v Speaker 3>to cover. To get to see in person what he

1:32:36.240 --> 1:32:39.040
<v Speaker 3>can do on the football field has been really amazing

1:32:39.160 --> 1:32:42.400
<v Speaker 3>for me. Of course, I remember watching him when he

1:32:42.560 --> 1:32:44.800
<v Speaker 3>was playing at LSU, so now to get to see

1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:46.960
<v Speaker 3>him in person and be around him all the time

1:32:47.120 --> 1:32:49.519
<v Speaker 3>is really cool. And even getting to see all of

1:32:49.600 --> 1:32:52.200
<v Speaker 3>his shoe collection in the locker room is always something

1:32:52.240 --> 1:32:54.960
<v Speaker 3>he's never looks forward to, because seems like it's growing

1:32:55.120 --> 1:32:57.519
<v Speaker 3>every single time that we're in their tracks.

1:32:58.000 --> 1:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you know how long it's been since he scored

1:33:00.320 --> 1:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>his last touchdown? And we asked him and he was

1:33:02.880 --> 1:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>not even aware of this.

1:33:05.800 --> 1:33:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. I remember what someone said in the

1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:09.160
<v Speaker 3>press conference.

1:33:10.960 --> 1:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. I was shocked by this. Yes, very good.

1:33:16.080 --> 1:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Back on October sixteenth and the thirty three thirty one

1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:22.759
<v Speaker 2>win over the Steelers, that's the last time Jamar Chase

1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:26.360
<v Speaker 2>scored a touchdown. He is leading the NFL in receptions

1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>with one hundred and one. He is leading the NFL

1:33:29.160 --> 1:33:33.360
<v Speaker 2>in yards at eleven forty seven, but he will not

1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:37.080
<v Speaker 2>win the triple crown this year. He has only five touchdowns.

1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Part of that is because of the way teams have

1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:44.280
<v Speaker 2>covered him this year, double clouds with t Higgins and whatnot.

1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:47.719
<v Speaker 2>The other part of it is Joe Burrow missed ten weeks,

1:33:47.840 --> 1:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, let's be fair, and that's not a

1:33:51.040 --> 1:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>slide on Jake Browning per se, nor is it a

1:33:54.320 --> 1:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>slight on Joe Flacco. It's just let's be honest and

1:33:59.400 --> 1:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>let's say what it is. The Bengals have struggled this year.

1:34:03.280 --> 1:34:05.880
<v Speaker 2>That's one factor, and the fact that Joe Burrow has

1:34:05.880 --> 1:34:08.120
<v Speaker 2>missed so much time is the other. But I just

1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>one thing about Jamar, and I don't think people really

1:34:10.960 --> 1:34:15.560
<v Speaker 2>appreciate this. When he goes into these press conferences, he

1:34:15.800 --> 1:34:21.439
<v Speaker 2>usually jokes with Emily Parker, the public relations director, Emily,

1:34:21.560 --> 1:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>let's keep it to like ten eleven minutes this time, please,

1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>And he just keeps going and going and going, and

1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>he sits up on the dais on the podium very patiently,

1:34:32.360 --> 1:34:34.439
<v Speaker 2>and you look down and he's been up there eighteen

1:34:34.520 --> 1:34:37.639
<v Speaker 2>nineteen minutes. And to me, that's kind of the charm

1:34:38.000 --> 1:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>of Jamar Chase is that he'll just keep talking and

1:34:41.920 --> 1:34:45.439
<v Speaker 2>he won't be unpleasant about it. And I think that's

1:34:46.080 --> 1:34:50.720
<v Speaker 2>we understand what happened in Pittsburgh. That was an outlier

1:34:51.479 --> 1:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>of beyond all outliers. It was terrible. It was a

1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>moment he regrets. He wished he could go back in

1:34:57.400 --> 1:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>the time machine and not do that, Jalen Ramsey, but

1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:06.599
<v Speaker 2>it happened. But that aside, he's shown great leadership quality

1:35:06.720 --> 1:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>this year. He was the one when Joe Burrow was

1:35:09.200 --> 1:35:12.439
<v Speaker 2>out with that injury, with the turf toe injury and

1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the corresponding surgery, he had to answer for all of

1:35:16.439 --> 1:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>those bad losses to the Jets, to the Bears. Certainly

1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>they lost to Detroit without Joe Burrow, they lost at

1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay without Joe Burrow, and Joe Flacco's first game.

1:35:29.439 --> 1:35:31.799
<v Speaker 2>He was the one standing up taking all the answers,

1:35:32.160 --> 1:35:33.120
<v Speaker 2>taking all the questions.

1:35:33.160 --> 1:35:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I should say, yep, yep, yeah. And I have seen,

1:35:39.040 --> 1:35:41.560
<v Speaker 3>you know this year with his captain and everything that

1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:44.280
<v Speaker 3>when we go in there in the locker room and

1:35:44.479 --> 1:35:49.240
<v Speaker 3>ask him. You've seen obviously that he has been upset

1:35:49.320 --> 1:35:53.000
<v Speaker 3>with the outcome, right, but he still stands there. He

1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:58.320
<v Speaker 3>answers every question. Professionally. He is a leader on this team.

1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:02.120
<v Speaker 3>It's really been cool to watch the difference between you know,

1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:04.960
<v Speaker 3>last season him. I really feel like he stepped up

1:36:05.080 --> 1:36:06.960
<v Speaker 3>really into that leadership all and like you said, with

1:36:07.080 --> 1:36:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow going down, he even had to do that

1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:13.960
<v Speaker 3>even more. But it has felt like a lifetime since

1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:18.360
<v Speaker 3>that pick. For so, I think that Jamar is due

1:36:18.400 --> 1:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>to fying the end zone on Sunday. I don't know.

1:36:22.479 --> 1:36:23.599
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's going to happen.

1:36:24.160 --> 1:36:26.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. I think that. I think Joe Burrow

1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and Zach Taylor even joked about it this morning with

1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:33.720
<v Speaker 2>us in a meeting with the Beat reporters that Joe

1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Burrow was only I think forty yards away from twenty

1:36:36.800 --> 1:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty thousand would be the fifth fastest quarterback to that

1:36:40.439 --> 1:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>plateau in NFL history. So I think that's going to

1:36:44.200 --> 1:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>happen obviously, one way or another. And I think Jamar

1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Chase getting a touchdown, getting him off the schneid is

1:36:50.640 --> 1:36:53.599
<v Speaker 2>certainly something that's got to be on the priority list

1:36:53.680 --> 1:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>one thing, and we only have a couple of minutes

1:36:55.320 --> 1:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>left here. Gabby speaking with Gabby Sorrentino of Fox nineteen

1:36:59.479 --> 1:37:04.439
<v Speaker 2>covering the Bengals. When you do your interviews in midweek,

1:37:04.520 --> 1:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>what do you enjoy the most when you have a

1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>player off campus, as they say, at a restaurant or

1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:14.439
<v Speaker 2>wherever you are. What do you enjoy the most about

1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:15.519
<v Speaker 2>interviewing those players?

1:37:18.200 --> 1:37:20.559
<v Speaker 3>You're talking like at our Bengals Now show.

1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Your Bengals Now Show, Yes, which I think you guys

1:37:23.360 --> 1:37:25.479
<v Speaker 2>do a great job. That's why I want to ask

1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:28.479
<v Speaker 2>you about that program because I believe there's a hero

1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:32.200
<v Speaker 2>image on your ex page of you sitting down with

1:37:33.280 --> 1:37:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Mike Gasicki and I'm trying to think on the other side,

1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but anyway, yes, there we go. What

1:37:41.400 --> 1:37:42.640
<v Speaker 2>do you enjoy the most about that.

1:37:44.680 --> 1:37:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Man? It has been so fun because of course we

1:37:47.960 --> 1:37:51.080
<v Speaker 3>talk football with the guys, but we get to know

1:37:51.280 --> 1:37:55.120
<v Speaker 3>their personality so much. We have seen Higgins singing up

1:37:55.200 --> 1:37:56.800
<v Speaker 3>on the stage, and let me tell you, he has

1:37:56.840 --> 1:38:00.880
<v Speaker 3>an incredible voice. We have heard so many amazing rookie

1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:04.720
<v Speaker 3>talent show stories, fun frank story. I mean, we have

1:38:04.840 --> 1:38:07.920
<v Speaker 3>gotten so many fun stories out of these guys, so

1:38:08.040 --> 1:38:11.240
<v Speaker 3>many fun moments. Tanner Hudson that day. I play a

1:38:11.320 --> 1:38:13.880
<v Speaker 3>trivia game with the guys up on the stage every week,

1:38:14.200 --> 1:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>and that was what that picture was from, and it

1:38:17.640 --> 1:38:20.280
<v Speaker 3>was all about Cincinnati. So I was quizzing Tanner and

1:38:20.360 --> 1:38:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Mike about questions on Cincinnni and I asked them what's

1:38:23.160 --> 1:38:25.240
<v Speaker 3>the name of the famous hippo at the Cincinnati Do

1:38:26.120 --> 1:38:28.400
<v Speaker 3>And Tanner Hudson looks at me with all the confidence

1:38:28.439 --> 1:38:32.640
<v Speaker 3>in the world and goes Big South and everybody in

1:38:32.720 --> 1:38:34.679
<v Speaker 3>the crowd is dying because he thought that the hippo's

1:38:34.720 --> 1:38:40.080
<v Speaker 3>name was Big Sally. It's Fiona. And just moments like

1:38:40.200 --> 1:38:42.200
<v Speaker 3>that have been so fun. We've did it a little

1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:44.680
<v Speaker 3>different this season where we try to have two new

1:38:44.760 --> 1:38:47.439
<v Speaker 3>guests on every week instead of having one guy that

1:38:47.560 --> 1:38:49.360
<v Speaker 3>comes on every week and they bring a guest. So

1:38:49.520 --> 1:38:52.760
<v Speaker 3>we have had so many players and we still have

1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:56.000
<v Speaker 3>more coming on in the next two weeks. But it's

1:38:56.040 --> 1:38:58.519
<v Speaker 3>been really cool getting to hear some stories, getting to

1:38:58.640 --> 1:39:04.479
<v Speaker 3>learn about these guys families, their upbringing. Yeah, it's amazing

1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:07.519
<v Speaker 3>and definitely if you have the chance to watch, watch

1:39:07.560 --> 1:39:09.800
<v Speaker 3>because you learn so much more about them. Off the

1:39:09.840 --> 1:39:13.800
<v Speaker 3>football field than you probably would ever learn if you

1:39:13.880 --> 1:39:15.640
<v Speaker 3>weren't at the show or watching it on.

1:39:15.720 --> 1:39:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Our streaming platforms.

1:39:17.120 --> 1:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, what do you have in store leading up

1:39:20.040 --> 1:39:25.360
<v Speaker 2>to the game on Sunday on Fox nineteen, we.

1:39:25.560 --> 1:39:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Will have It's not on our channel, so we won't

1:39:28.560 --> 1:39:31.400
<v Speaker 3>have our pregame show, but Bengals Weekly will be on

1:39:31.560 --> 1:39:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Fox nineteen as it is every week. And then of

1:39:34.720 --> 1:39:38.559
<v Speaker 3>course I'll be in Miami. Really, all of our stuff

1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:41.759
<v Speaker 3>happens after the game, so we'll have forty five minutes

1:39:41.760 --> 1:39:45.120
<v Speaker 3>of Bengals coverage starting at eleven fifteen and going to midnight,

1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:48.640
<v Speaker 3>we have Bengals Breakdown. That's thirty minutes of all Bengals,

1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the guys breaking down in studio.

1:39:52.280 --> 1:39:52.800
<v Speaker 4>I will be.

1:39:54.400 --> 1:39:58.479
<v Speaker 3>At Miami doing my report, So yeah, we'll have a

1:39:58.520 --> 1:40:00.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of Bengals coverage from the game. And of course,

1:40:00.800 --> 1:40:03.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, I know, I understand that the game doesn't matter,

1:40:03.640 --> 1:40:05.880
<v Speaker 3>but we'll don't give it all to you. We'll break

1:40:05.920 --> 1:40:08.720
<v Speaker 3>it down lock over. I'm really excited to.

1:40:09.160 --> 1:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Get to do this game.

1:40:10.160 --> 1:40:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Safe travels to Miami. She is Gabby Sorrentino. Thank you

1:40:13.640 --> 1:40:16.840
<v Speaker 2>so much for joining me. Please sleep fast, sleep well,

1:40:16.960 --> 1:40:20.080
<v Speaker 2>get ready for that trip to Miami Beach. Gabby, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for taking time out. You got it, Gabby.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you next week. All right. This has

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<v Speaker 2>been the RNL Carrier sports talk program, presented by Kelsey

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