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Speaker 4: Today, now, most of the last thirty years, let's be honest, man,

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Speaker 4: Today at share facts dot org. You know you think

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Speaker 4: about it, The Reds are a weird team. The Reds

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Speaker 4: And by the way, weird doesn't have to be bad.

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Speaker 4: You could be a weird person and not a bad person.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of a weird person, but I don't think

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Speaker 4: I'm a bad person. I think there have kind of

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Speaker 4: a weird team. The good news is spring training has started,

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Speaker 4: and you know you're reading about like Francisco lindor the Mets,

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Speaker 2: It is kind of nice. Spring training is starting.

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Speaker 4: The Reds are coming off a season in which they

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Speaker 4: there's no injury issue now that can change. And really

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Speaker 4: it relates to spring training, I guess there are two.

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Speaker 4: So if you're going to accuse me of maybe jinxing

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Speaker 4: He is a one dimensional offensive player. He's going to

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Speaker 4: Reds today, I want to take just a couple of

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Speaker 4: minutes to talk about my friends at Cincy Shirts. And

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Speaker 4: the reason I'm doing this is Josh Need has been

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Speaker 4: on this show. He's one of the owners of Sincy Shirts,

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Speaker 4: and Josh is a dear friend of mine and Darren Overholzer,

478
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Speaker 4: who's one of the owners of Sincy Shirts, a good

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Speaker 4: friend of mine as well. These are guys have been

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Speaker 4: in the market selling shirts and other apparel for a

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Speaker 4: while now. I like it when people are vulnerable, so

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Speaker 4: Wes Miller last week on his postgame radio show. I

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Speaker 4: appreciated the vulnerability. Don't like the fact that his team

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Speaker 4: is not having a great year, Frustrated with how his

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Speaker 4: team is played, haven't liked some of the things that

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Speaker 4: he has taught talked about in his postgame But last

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Speaker 4: week in a postgame interview, he nearly was brought to

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Speaker 4: tears after they lost to West Virginia, and he took

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Speaker 4: some ridicule for it. He took some heat for it. Whatever,

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Speaker 4: I appreciated he was in that moment. Whether it was

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Speaker 4: intentional or not, the dude was vulnerable. I thought it

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Speaker 4: was a human moment. We're not getting it done. My

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Speaker 4: job is in jeopardy. I haven't been able to do

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Speaker 4: what I was hired to do. I don't care how

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Speaker 4: much money you make. I don't care how much money

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Speaker 4: you're going to be paid. To go away like that's

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Speaker 4: not easy. And I thought that was a very human glimpse,

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Speaker 4: very revealing vulnerable glimpse into what Wes is dealing with.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you should feel sorry for him necessarily.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you do, maybe you don't, But I appreciated the vulnerability.

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Speaker 4: By the way, There's there are coaches who don't show

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Speaker 4: up for those interviews, like Buzz Williams at Maryland hasn't

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Speaker 4: shown up for his postgame interview in months, like dude

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Speaker 4: at least shows up and uh again sometimes has done

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Speaker 4: some postgame shows where I felt like he's gonna regret

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Speaker 4: saying what he said. I don't think last week was

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Speaker 4: the case. I appreciate people who are willing to be vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: So Josh, one of the owners of Sincy Shirts, had

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Speaker 4: a social media post I think it was last Friday

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Speaker 4: where he did.

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Speaker 2: What uh, honestly a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of local business owners have done at some point, appealing

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Speaker 4: to the public because they're going through a downspell, and

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Speaker 4: that I think is just sort of an inherent part

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Speaker 4: of being a business owner. And they're not a big business,

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Speaker 4: they're not some big corporation there. You know, a couple

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Speaker 4: of guys and their employees and they own a.

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Speaker 2: T shirt store.

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Speaker 4: And Josh's Facebook post was like, hey, man, we're kind

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Speaker 4: of down right now and we're struggling a little bit here.

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Speaker 4: And since the shirts has been uber uber successful, but

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean you're immune to you know, economic factors,

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Speaker 4: consumer factors. Maybe the weather hasn't helped, and so he

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Speaker 4: just kind of made an appeal like, hey, you know,

525
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Speaker 4: in this town, we're always about take care of local here,

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Speaker 4: we could use some help right now and point it

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Speaker 4: out very understandably. So when there have been local organizations

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Speaker 4: or causes that have needed since the shirts help, they

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Speaker 4: have responded nearly every single time, every single time, as

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Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned. And so I'm talking about since

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Speaker 4: since he shirts, in large part because of Josh's appeal

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Speaker 4: to just hey, look, if you've got a little disposable income,

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Speaker 4: mind going to our website if you see a shirt

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Speaker 4: that you think is kind of funny or you think

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Speaker 4: that somebody else might like buy it. I am paraphrasing

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Speaker 4: his social media post. On a personal level, this show

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Speaker 4: started at my on air careers started in two thousand

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Speaker 4: and seven, and god knows, we don't have to go through, uh,

539
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Speaker 4: you know, my backstory. But when this show started in

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Speaker 4: two thousand and seven, we had been on the air

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Speaker 4: for maybe a month and for some reason, and I

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Speaker 4: don't necessarily totally understand why, Sincy Shirts, which at the

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Speaker 4: time was look at me Shirts dot Com, decided they

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Speaker 4: wanted to be involved in our show, and so they

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Speaker 4: sponsored my blog. I used to do a blog. The

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Speaker 4: blog's still there. I just don't put anything on it

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Speaker 4: except the show itself. That's also a different conversation. They

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Speaker 4: were the first company to attach themselves to my show,

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Speaker 4: and honestly, they were the only company for years to

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Speaker 4: attach themselves to my show. I believe they were the

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Speaker 4: first to attach themselves to since three sixty and when

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Speaker 4: we have needed them, when we have needed their help,

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Speaker 4: even when we haven't sought their help, they've been there

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Speaker 4: for us. I told this story on Paul Danner Junior's

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Speaker 4: podcast The Growler. When this show started, We're like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: how do we tell people who we are, how to

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Speaker 4: find us what the show is about. We decided to

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Speaker 4: do a church festival tour because I love church festivals.

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Speaker 4: I think the backbone of the Cincinnati Summer Reds baseball

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Speaker 4: and church festivals, and so my producer at the time,

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Speaker 4: Mark Shalafu, and I in two thousand and eight went

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Speaker 4: to thirty two church festivals all over town and we

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Speaker 4: would work beer trucks and I would introduce bands and

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Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun. But it was like,

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Speaker 4: here's how we can get in front of people and

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Speaker 4: tell people who we are. And we didn't have to

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Speaker 4: pay for the advertising. We didn't seek anything in return.

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Speaker 4: We just wanted to use the church festival to promote

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Speaker 4: our show. And I remember Josh reaching out and saying like,

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Speaker 4: let's make let's make a church festival to a T

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Speaker 4: shirt for you. He didn't ask for anything, didn't make

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Speaker 4: me pay for him, just here they are. It's our

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Speaker 4: way of helping. And that was, you know, eighteen nineteen

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Speaker 4: years ago. I've never forgotten that. I've never publicly expressed

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Speaker 4: my gratitude for it, but that company has been a

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Speaker 4: big part of my show in this radio station for

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Speaker 4: a long time. And far more important than that they

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Speaker 4: have they've gone from a little online T shirt store

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Speaker 4: to something that I think is an absolute civic treasure.

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Speaker 4: So and they're not paying for this. This isn't a

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Speaker 4: sponsored segment. Go check out since shirts dot com and

582
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: if you don't have the means, that's okay. Maybe see

583
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Speaker 4: a shirt you like and send it to someone and go, hey,

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Speaker 4: here's one you might like. They've got a lot of

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Speaker 4: sports themed apparel. They've got an FC Cincinnati contract, They've

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Speaker 4: got a contract with the Major League Baseball Players Association.

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Speaker 4: There are funny shirts, there are vintage shirts, there are

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Speaker 4: sports related shirts. There's other apparel as well. And Valentine's

589
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: Day is coming up, and so maybe you'll see one

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00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: for your Valentine and get it for them. This is

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Speaker 4: an extraordinarily important local company, and it's an extraordinarily important

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Speaker 4: company to me and my colleagues on this radio station.

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Speaker 4: So in this town we pride ourselves, and God knows

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Speaker 4: there's lots of businesses that could use a boost. They're

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Speaker 4: not the only one, but we pride ourselves in this

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Speaker 4: town of like taking care of our own and picking

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Speaker 4: up our neighbors and our friends and those who have

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Speaker 4: been there for us since the Shirts has been there

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Speaker 4: for me many times, and I could not encourage you

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Speaker 4: enough to be there for them. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 4: they say really good stuff too, So please check out

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Speaker 4: sincey shirts dot com. I know those guys would appreciate it,

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Speaker 4: their employees would appreciate it, and we need to make

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Speaker 4: sure that they are around for a very very long time.

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Speaker 4: If there has been a group or somebody putting on

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Speaker 4: an event that is needed their help, they've been there

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Speaker 4: every single time. And by the way they've put up

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Speaker 4: with you know, the store in OTR when we had

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Speaker 4: all hell breaking loose in the summer of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: You know, vandals knocked through their window and created havoc.

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Speaker 4: And so they've gone through and small business owners and

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Speaker 4: I've never been one go through ups and downs. This

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Speaker 4: would maybe be what we call a valley. Let's help

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Speaker 4: those folks at Sincy Shirts pick themselves out of that

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Speaker 4: valley because we need them. They're important. They've meant a

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Speaker 4: lot to me, They've meant a lot to this city.

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Speaker 4: So please check out Sincey shirts dot com. Rick Browing next.

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Speaker 4: Xavier comes home to battle Marquette on Saturday. Rick will

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Speaker 2: Hi, reck hey Well.

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Speaker 4: Was the foul disparity on Monday night reflective of poor officiating,

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Speaker 4: of the fact that the Musketeers couldn't stop fouling.

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Speaker 5: I would say more so the latter. And the reason

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Speaker 5: Xavier more so than the officials. Now, the number of

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Speaker 5: fouls called for Saint John's at a certain point did

649
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 5: seem to be excessive. Felt like they were getting a

650
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: little predictive with their calls and maybe anticipating what was

651
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Speaker 5: going to happen. But yeah, I mean, there's no doubt

652
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 5: about it. Xavier fouled too much, and on their end

653
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 5: of the floor when they're on offense, they don't We

654
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 5: have the types of players that typically draw fouls, and

655
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 5: that's played out over the course of the season. That's

656
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 5: not to say they didn't get into the paint and attack,

657
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: but they're not very good at getting into the bodies

658
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: of opposing players, getting them off balanced, and getting to

659
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 5: the free throw lines.

660
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Speaker 4: Like a lot of folks looked at the stretch where

661
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 4: they were going to play, you know, Saint John's twice

662
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: within a couple of weeks, they were going to have

663
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: to go to Seaton Hall. The Yukon game was obviously

664
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 4: going to be difficult and it proved to be difficult.

665
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: I think a lot of folks kind of looked at

666
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: after that that maybe the opportunity is going to be

667
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: there for some wins in the Marquette game here would

668
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: be an opportunity. It's worth mentioning Marquette did win the

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Speaker 4: first game again Xavier. That Villanova team has a good record,

670
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: I think, a better record than a lot of people

671
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: might who follow it casually might realize. Or the Wildcats

672
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: are obviously not vintage Jay Wright here of Villanova, but

673
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Speaker 4: how much better are they?

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Speaker 8: That's a good question, though.

675
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people around the country are

676
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: trying to figure out just how good this Villanova team is.

677
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 5: They have some bouts with inconsistency to be sure. I mean,

678
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 5: like you said, it's not the national championship Jay Wright

679
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: Villanova teams by any stretch of the imagination. But they

680
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 5: do look like they're going to be a tournament team

681
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 5: like Lee, and they are better than Xavier, So it

682
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 5: would take a really good effort by the Musketeers to

683
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: pull that one out. I'm not putting any forecasts or

684
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 5: bets on Villanova making a run late this year, but

685
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 5: at the same time, they've they've definitely had a much

686
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: better season for a program that was really in trouble.

687
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: They've they've gotten back on track. Here.

688
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Speaker 2: How huge of a sire relief was Saturday for the North.

689
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Speaker 5: It was big, and I think part of it was because,

690
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: you know, you just needed to win a game, but

691
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: also part of it was how it happened. Like they

692
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: have had trouble in those late game situations where it's

693
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 5: coming down to the final possessions, getting the stop needed,

694
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 5: taking away the three point shots on the perimeter. We

695
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 5: saw it against Green Bay where they gave up not

696
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: just the game winning three by not defending on the

697
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: perimeter for erly, but four or five threes late in

698
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 5: the second half they gave up to Green Bay due

699
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: to improper defense. And they definitely did a much better

700
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: job in the Milwaukee game and the way they finished

701
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 5: the game off by defending some screens on the perimeter

702
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 5: getting a steal Dotavan O'Day came up with it to

703
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 5: kind of seal the win there on Milwaukee's final offensive possession.

704
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 5: I think that really felt like a big mental boost,

705
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: morale boost for this team to win the game in

706
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 5: that way.

707
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Speaker 2: Can they win the Horizon League tournament.

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Speaker 5: You know, the interesting thing right now is the seeding situation.

709
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: I mean NKU sits in seventh right now, I believe

710
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 5: alone as we talk today. And the only reason that's like,

711
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure is because it seems to change

712
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: every day. From about fourth to ninth in the conference

713
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 5: right now are all separated by just like two games total,

714
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: So it is changing rapidly between these teams, and it

715
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 5: feels like NKU, you know, if they catch fire and

716
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 5: they they go five and zero down the stretch here,

717
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: maybe they can play their way back into one of

718
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 5: those top five seeds and host a postseason game to

719
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Speaker 5: start the tournament. But if they have to go on

720
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: the road, then you've definitely got a more difficult road,

721
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Speaker 5: especially with that extra game being added into the bracket

722
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: this year in the Horizon League tournament, they've added a

723
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Speaker 5: game on Sunday night when you get to Indianapolis for

724
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Speaker 5: the two lowest seeded teams. So if you're, you know,

725
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 5: in theory, seated in that four or five slot or

726
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: below and you're still alive, you're likely going to be

727
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: playing in that game. And for NKU that will be

728
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: the case based on where they're at right now. So

729
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: it's going to be a difficult road for them. But

730
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Speaker 5: I do think they have the talent that in a

731
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Speaker 5: one game scenario, you like their chances against anyone in

732
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Speaker 5: the conference. The question is can they win four of

733
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Speaker 5: them in a row in a tournament format that still

734
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 5: remains to be saved.

735
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Speaker 4: So if I understand you correctly, you would maybe perhaps,

736
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Speaker 4: if things went well, have to all three games in

737
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Speaker 4: that dump of a building in Indianapolis.

738
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Speaker 5: That's correct, Although I do hear that the tournament is

739
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 5: going to be getting moved, so really is that has

740
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Speaker 5: been a really big piece of news that I've uncovered

741
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 5: during this season because, as you know, I mean this

742
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: tournament awful. Yeah, the dump that it's hosted in is

743
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 5: just it it's funfathomable.

744
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: Where where could it move to? And could it move

745
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: to Truth Arena?

746
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 5: It is not going to move to Truist Arena, based

747
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: on what I've heard, I'm not sure. I'm not for

748
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 5: certain if they've decided on the location yet. I've heard

749
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 5: different places in Michigan thrown around, but at different places

750
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 5: in Ohio. But I but I do know that it's

751
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 5: supposed to be moving away from from that Indianapolis Fairgrounds.

752
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: If NKU isn't playing in the NCAA tournament, what are

753
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 4: you doing on the morning of the first round?

754
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 5: I am at Holy Grail Banks with you rocking a

755
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 5: T shirt from Sincy Shirts dot Com, getting ready for

756
00:41:59,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: the first round to turn.

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Speaker 2: You could not have answered that any better, heik.

758
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cinci Shirts love them. Go check them out, Go

759
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: buy some shirt they've got. People are always asking me, though,

760
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 5: where can I get some NKU gear? There's not enough

761
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: NKU gear out there. They've got an ever expanding collection

762
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Speaker 5: of North Skiar Franka you fans.

763
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Speaker 2: You know what.

764
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Speaker 4: The entire rest of the show now might be a

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Speaker 4: Sincy Shirts commercial. It's like a pledge drive for them,

766
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Speaker 4: so to speak. Rick, It's awesome to have you and

767
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Speaker 4: we'll see you at the Grail on the morning of

768
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: the first round. Thanks Bo, you're the man, Rick Brooring

769
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: Musketeer Report dot Com. You'll hear them tomorrow night. MKAU

770
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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to jump back to the reds.

773
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Speaker 4: We're going to talk to other folks and the thing

774
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: that needs to go differently for the Bengals this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Coming up four o'clock ESPN fifteen thirty to win one

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. Mulleger, thanks for listening today. Next hour, Nate Woody,

782
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator at uc Nate Woody, I.

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Speaker 2: Think they're enjoying that conversation.

784
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Speaker 4: Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty is our

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Speaker 4: number one other thing on the Reds here before.

786
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: We we uh we we we.

787
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: Take phone calls because at the end of the days

788
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: it's a call in show, right. The show works best

789
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 4: when when folks decide, Man, that host is so interesting, well,

790
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: I want to talk about something that's on my mind

791
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: with him, you know.

792
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: Hear ago.

793
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: At this time, the story was Tito Francona, and understandably so,

794
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: the Reds hired a Hall of Fame manager.

795
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: You know.

796
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: All the talk was of the positive vibes and the

797
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: positivity that Tito had brought in a different way of

798
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: doing things, maybe a little bit more accountability. And you know,

799
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: I thought from the standpoint of like Tito to press

800
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: every button correctly during the season last year, it wasn't

801
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: what a lot of folks may be expected, because as

802
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: the season unfolded, there were many times where I'd said

803
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: here and we would discuss a decision that Terry Francona

804
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: made during a game that didn't work out. Now, we

805
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: also spent a lot of time talking about decisions that

806
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: did work out, But it was you know, toward the

807
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: end of the season, we did a show at the

808
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: Holy Grail on that Wednesday where the Reds are playing

809
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: the Pirates, and there was so much riding on those games,

810
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: and the season had obviously for the most part, played

811
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Speaker 4: out in its entirety with the handful of a couple

812
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: of games. And I remember, I remember sitting there and

813
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's not gonna mind me mentioning this on air.

814
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: We got Tommy Thrall to come over, and which was

815
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: really awesome because you got Tommy to come over before

816
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: he's due to call a big game, when he's typically preparing.

817
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 4: But I don't know if there's anybody who covers the

818
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 4: Reds or is around the team who has the sort

819
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 4: of interpersonal relationship that a team's radio play by play

820
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: person has with the manager. Because I would be willing

821
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 4: to bet this is the case for all thirty clubs.

822
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: Is there's always a pregame interview where the play by

823
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: play guy, maybe it's the colored person, sits down with

824
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: the manager and it runs in the pregame show. That's

825
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: been a Red staple since the seventies and probably since

826
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Speaker 4: before then. So like Tommy's the guy that does one

827
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Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two plus, you know, however, many spring

828
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: training broadcasts does like one hundred and ninety five pregame

829
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Speaker 4: interviews with the manager. He really gets a chance to

830
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 4: know him, and there's conversations that happen off air before

831
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Speaker 4: they do the interview. And I remember Tommy sitting down,

832
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: were in a break and he just looks at me

833
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Speaker 4: and he's like, you know, people have no idea the

834
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 4: impact that Tito's had on this team. We had Amelia

835
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Speaker 4: Pegan and Andrew Abbotten here a few weeks ago. They

836
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Speaker 4: were a part of reds Fest and we're getting ready

837
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Speaker 4: to do the interview, and you know, we started talking about, like,

838
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: you know, what a difference a year made for both

839
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: Like pegana year ago is coming off a bad year,

840
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 4: then he had a good year last year. Andrew Arabbitt

841
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: ended up being an All Star last year, and both

842
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: guys off air and that we talked about it on

843
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: mentioned like people have no idea like the role that

844
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: Tito had in our success last year. So it was

845
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: a decision that paid off in for the reasons the

846
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: Reds hired him. They didn't hire him to make the

847
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 4: right decision in the seventh inning of a one run game.

848
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: Obviously you want the manager to get that right more

849
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 4: often than not. But it was about, you know, setting

850
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: a tone in communication and just you know, guiding a

851
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 4: team that hasn't won anything and lifting them to a

852
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 4: better place, which did happen last year.

853
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Speaker 2: But it's kind of nice this year.

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Speaker 4: Not only do you have a guy who is as

855
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: well respected as anybody in the sport, but he understands

856
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: the lay of the land. I mean, by his own admission.

857
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: A year ago he was talking about like, I got

858
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 4: to figure out who can do what. I've got some

859
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 4: evaluations to make. He was discussing that during the first

860
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: part of the season. Well, now that's the thing he's

861
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: done that, and they know him, and the program is

862
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 4: in place much more so than it was a year ago.

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Speaker 4: This team can't help but benefit from that. And so like,

864
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: I don't know to what tangible degree we're going to

865
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: be able to measure the Tito effect in year two,

866
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: but I think the effect right now is like, Nope,

867
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: there's no acclamation. Nobody's getting used to anybody. By the way,

868
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: their big offseason acquisition couldn't be more familiar with the

869
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Reds, even if he's not maybe quite as familiar

870
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: with everybody on the team. That's a stark contrast from

871
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: where we were a year ago. And it's not an

872
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: insignificant one. Eddie and Green Township, I know it's baseball season.

873
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 4: When I hear from you, Eddie, how you doing, I'm great.

874
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: How are you doing, Buddy, I'm wonderful man.

875
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: What's up?

876
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I just caught your shows I go and

877
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 9: you were talking to Red and I was like, well,

878
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 9: that's it to my ears. So we're about six weeks

879
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 9: we're six weeks away, about six weeks away through opening day,

880
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 9: and I'm seeing a lot of projections that came out. Yeah,

881
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 9: you know, betting GM and Pakota, all those other ones,

882
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 9: and every single one of them's got the reds like

883
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 9: down like in third place or fourth place. I just

884
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 9: I just don't get it. They won eighty three games

885
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 9: last year, uh and this year, I feel like they

886
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 9: have a better team. About a roster overall, I think

887
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 9: would you agree to that?

888
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: I think they have fewer questions on the roster.

889
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 4: I think they largely have the same minus a Uhaneo Suarez.

890
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 4: But I think the roster compared to a year ago

891
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: at this time was it is more settled.

892
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, the bullpen, I think the bullpen looks better. They

893
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 9: actually went on and got through a big bat they

894
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 9: needed for the last couple of years. Finally, the only

895
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 9: thing I can think of, I gotta win the eighty

896
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 9: five games. Eighty five was my number, it was. It

897
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 9: went up when they signed Florez were SaaS signing. I

898
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 9: had them an eighty one and a half. I took

899
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 9: the under unfortunately, but they went on and got the

900
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 9: big bat they needed. Kudos to the ownership, which I've

901
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 9: parked on them a lot. I've sot them not a lot,

902
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 9: you know, but they went out and went over over

903
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 9: budget to get the Saura deal. Done with, so kudos

904
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 9: to them. But the only thing I can think of though,

905
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 9: that no one's not really talking about that much, is

906
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 9: maybe they're picking them to win like seventy eight games

907
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 9: or whatever it is, because uh, Nick Ladolo and Hunter

908
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 9: Green have yet to have a full season in the

909
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 9: major leagues fully healthy. That could be one key factor there.

910
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 8: Huge Abage seems.

911
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 9: To always hit a wall or run on a gas

912
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 9: in the second half of the season somewhere, Yes, the

913
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 9: last couple of years, That's what I'm thinking of right there.

914
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 9: And then you got three guys coming back from season

915
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 9: long injuries that were gone for all last year, Brandon Williamson,

916
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 9: Rrett Louder and Brandon Williamson. So I'm thinking maybe they're

917
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 9: just thinking the pitching is just not proven or been,

918
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 9: you know, that they could be healthy enough and they're

919
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 9: missing that one more pitch sure in the rotation or bullten,

920
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 9: that Nick Martitez like pitcher that can give you innings

921
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 9: and go from the bullpen to the rotation when needed.

922
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 9: You know, Yeah, that's what they're thinking. And I think

923
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 9: they were still missing a bat. I think that don't

924
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 9: need to one more fat for a left field that

925
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 9: they didn't get yes, and they're banking on a couple

926
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 9: of guys to just have really career years or have

927
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 9: bounce back seasons like Matt McClain, you know, Novo Marte,

928
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 9: Ellide La Cruz, Sal Stewart. I think there's just too

929
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 9: much what if and just hope and Tourre is only

930
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 9: one player and he can't do all by himself. So

931
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 9: I don't know. I'm trying to be optimistic. I think

932
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 9: they eighty five games, this all goes well, definitely gonna

933
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 9: help the line up out a little bit. And he's

934
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 9: gonna put he's a dood fact. He's gonna make everyone

935
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 9: better around him. You know, it's gonna push your guys,

936
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 9: you know, Ellie hopefully will get better. What protection, better

937
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 9: pictures to hit. It's just kind of like a lot

938
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 9: of it just flow a lot easier when you have

939
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 9: that the up there, that big bat, that threat the rise.

940
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 9: They haven't had it for the last couple of years.

941
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: They need better.

942
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, I think, you know, they

943
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: need better to hole production, which was you know, second

944
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: to worst in baseball last year.

945
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: That can't be the case.

946
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 4: And they need more home runs from the middle of

947
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: the order, and you're being reasonable if you go, you

948
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: know what, Suarez hits thirty to thirty five, Ellie should

949
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 4: hit more. I don't know if that number is going

950
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: to be exponentially higher, but should hit more. And then

951
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 4: you hope that Sala Stewart can give them at least

952
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 4: some pop in the order, and then all right, there

953
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: are more home runs. I understand their placement, like I think,

954
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: if if you put a gun to my head and

955
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: said bet on the place the Reds are going to finish,

956
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 4: the first thing I would say is why do you

957
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 4: have a gun to my head? The second thing I

958
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: would say would be third place, because they were. They

959
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: finished nine games behind the Cubs, and they finished fourteen

960
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 4: behind Milwaukee. That's a lot to make up for.

961
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: Even if you.

962
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: Believe that there's no way the Brewers win ninety seven again,

963
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: even if you're not totally buying into the Cubs. You

964
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 4: got to leapfrog two teams. You also have to hold

965
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: off the Pirates, who most expect to be better this season.

966
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: So I like, I get why they're why Vegas is

967
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 4: picking them to finish in third place. I think what's

968
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: going to be really interesting about this team this year

969
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: because it can go either way. They were twenty two

970
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 4: and twenty two and one run games last year. So

971
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 4: typically if you're really good in one run games one season,

972
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: you end up not being quite as good the next year. Right,

973
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 4: it's regression to the mean, except they were the definition

974
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 4: of average in one run games. Does that improve dramatically

975
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: or does that get worse dramatically? And and that that

976
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: may have happened. That may have as much to do

977
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: with anything as to whether or not they're better and

978
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 4: in a better position to make the postseason and maybe

979
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 4: with ease or dropping back a little bit, and you know,

980
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: struggling to finish with more wins than losses.

981
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 9: Right, and extra innings they think they were really bad too,

982
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 9: and extra innings. The record was very good.

983
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: I think there were three and twelve, Yeah, three and

984
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: twin not all, not all those exter inning games end

985
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: up being one run game games, but they were. We

986
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 4: did it at some point last year. It was uncanny,

987
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: you know, if you if you consider that your odds

988
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 4: of scoring a run with a guy on second base

989
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 4: and nobody out are basically sixty sixty one percent. It

990
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: was remarkable how infrequently they scored that run so they

991
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: were terrible in extra inning games last year?

992
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: Does that get better?

993
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 7: Right?

994
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: If you figure on an annual basis, usually about ten

995
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: percent of your games or extra inning games. Can can

996
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 4: you win an overwhelmingly large number of those ten percent?

997
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: That could have a lot to do with things. But

998
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 4: like their their record in one run games, I'm gonna

999
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: guess is not five hundred. It's either going to be

1000
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: significantly better or worse, and that may hold the key

1001
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: to how much better or worse this team is this year.

1002
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, and take a consideration this team hasn't make the

1003
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 9: postseason a back to back full season since twenty twelve

1004
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 9: and twenty thirteen, so that could be another factor as well. Yeah, like,

1005
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 9: well you know track records.

1006
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's I could understand why anybody would bet

1007
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 4: against him to make the postseason for every reason you

1008
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 4: just outlined. Uh, the starting pitching is a strength from

1009
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: a talent perspective. Can't collectively they stay healthy? So far,

1010
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: the answer has been no. You are asking a lot

1011
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 4: of guys who weren't very good last year to be

1012
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: better this season. Uh, and you're you're asking them if

1013
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 4: you think they've got to win the NL Central this year.

1014
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: You are asking them to leap frog two teams that

1015
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 4: they finished way behind last year.

1016
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: It is a tough ask.

1017
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, And the Cubs, I feel like got really got better.

1018
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 9: The Pirates, I feel like, are gonna be a dark horse,

1019
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 9: and the Brewers see trade away all their gay players.

1020
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 9: I'm not telling them out this year, though I've did

1021
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 9: the last year or three years, and it's st back

1022
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 9: to bite me the butt.

1023
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they they they they move on from Peralta,

1024
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 4: they trade him. They they traded uh Chase Durbin on Monday,

1025
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: and I think everybody just says, well, the Brewers have

1026
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 4: become like the Cardinals used to be, where you just

1027
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 4: assume what they're doing is going to work out of

1028
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 4: how good they've gotten at replacing players that leave, how

1029
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 4: good their farm system has been in recent years. At

1030
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 4: the same time, are they really going to win ninety

1031
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: seven games? Is the number one seed in the National

1032
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 4: League gonna be the Milwaukee Brewers again? I certainly understand

1033
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 4: why there's a world where they win the division. That

1034
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprising them being quite as good, I think

1035
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: to me would be surprising, right.

1036
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 9: And I feel like our contention to win, to compete

1037
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 9: with supposed to be right now, right starting now, Like ye,

1038
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 9: the rebuilds to start now, the one's to start now,

1039
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 9: you know, let's go. You know, I think there's more

1040
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 9: things that we could work in our favorite I can

1041
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 9: get better this year than things that could regrets. So

1042
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 9: that kind of gives me a little bit a positive

1043
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 9: optimist in there.

1044
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think also the fact that you go

1045
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 4: into the season having a pretty good understanding of who's

1046
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 4: supposed to do what in the bullpen, it should fuel

1047
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: some optimism. I feel like Eddie, this is the first

1048
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: year where we go into it talking about how it's

1049
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 4: it's it's not just make the playoffs or bust, it's

1050
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: advancing postseason or bust. And I think how this team

1051
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: handles that is going to be interesting. Look, there have

1052
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 4: been years twenty eleven, twenty twenty four where they were

1053
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 4: good the year before and you just sort of expected

1054
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: that naturally they're going to be better.

1055
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: And it hasn't happened.

1056
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 4: And so you talk about track record, this team's track

1057
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: record is when you expect that to be the case,

1058
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: the opposite ends up being reality.

1059
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, and eighty three wins. I don't think I'm gonna

1060
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 9: get to the postseason this year. You can't expect another

1061
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 9: team to have an epic collapse with the Mets head

1062
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 9: last year, so you have to at least win eighty five,

1063
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 9: eighty six, maybe eighty seven games to get in. But

1064
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 9: I think the goal this year should be to try

1065
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 9: to win the National League Central Division and to win

1066
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 9: a playoff series. That needs to be the goal this year. Yeah,

1067
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 9: or it's a good disappointment.

1068
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: And the drought, that would be awesome. Any good to

1069
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: hear from you as always, you.

1070
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: Too, me.

1071
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 9: Thanks a lot of seeing Krugers. I'm sure one these.

1072
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 4: Days you will definitely. Nineteen minutes after after four o'clock.

1073
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: It's the first year I think since twenty twenty, twenty twenty,

1074
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: and it ud been weird because midway through spring training

1075
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: covid hit. I think it's the first year where it's like,

1076
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 4: if they don't make the postseason, the season's a mass

1077
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,040
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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored or after four o'clock.

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Speaker 4: This is ESPN fifteen thirty to craft a poll question

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Speaker 4: for Twitter at mowegar. By the way, Italy is playing

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00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: Sweden and men's Olympic ice hockey, that I have to

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00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 4: call it ice hockey. But if did anybody think I

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00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: was referencing a field hockey game.

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they're not playing broom ball there in Italy.

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00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: The home standing Italians are tied with Sweden. Two wall,

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Speaker 4: eight minutes to go in the second period. We're on

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Speaker 4: tomorrow while the US men play. We were on yesterday

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Speaker 4: while the US women were kicking the crap out of

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: Canada in a preliminary round match or a game tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: the US men play their first game against Latvia. A

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00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 4: good bet is on the US to win the bronze.

1107
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 4: So that's where I've put my money. I hope I

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00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: am wrong. Now, Olympic hockey, even if you're not a

1109
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: hardcore hockey fan, Olympic hockey is terrific, is great. And

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00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 4: if they in the Olympics can at all replicate the

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00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: and the quality of the hockey from the Four Nations tournament,

1112
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: which was about a year ago, that would be terrific.

1113
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 4: We have decided that we're gonna do well. We can

1114
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 4: apply this to when the US women play while we're

1115
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: on the air. The game tomorrow against Latvia starts at

1116
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 4: three ten, which is right after we go on the air.

1117
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 4: And so if you're wondering, like you know, I got

1118
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: I can't miss this show. But I want to know

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00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 4: what's going on with the US men's hockey team because

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00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 4: there's forever this need to replicate the miracle on ice,

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00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 4: which that'll never be replicated ever. But what we will

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00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: do is we have a goalie horn, Taran. So what

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 4: we'll do is throughout the course of the afternoon tomorrow,

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00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: this will be a little bit of a rehearsal for this.

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 4: The US will play Latvia, and if there's a goal

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: in the game, whether it's by US or the Latvians,

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00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 4: Tarran will play the goalie horn.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and play it. It's a goalie horn.

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Speaker 4: So if and it doesn't matter what we're doing, we

1130
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: could be in the middle of like a serious like

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01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 4: baseball segment or Chad Brendle's on the show tomorrow to

1132
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 4: talk bearcat basketball. And if while we're on a tearn,

1133
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to I know you're not a big

1134
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: hockey guy, but you're gonna have to pay attention because

1135
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: you know, I'm in the middle of doing something and

1136
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 4: maybe can't give it my full and undivided attention. But

1137
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 4: if if either team scores, go ahead and hit them.

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: I didn't realize this until about five minutes ago, that

1139
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: every NHL team has its own goalie horn. Like I

1140
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: went to YouTube and I typed in goaliehorn, and there's

1141
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 4: a YouTube mashup of every NHL team's goaliehorn. I assume

1142
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 4: their goalie it's the same horn, but there's a musical accompaniment.

1143
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: So like what we could do if the American score

1144
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 4: is we could play the horn and then play some

1145
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 4: you know, patriotic music. And then if if the Latvian score,

1146
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: we could play the horn and play some Latvian music.

1147
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 4: It's a work in progress. You've got homework for it

1148
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 4: tonight to come up with a goal a goal horn

1149
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 4: alerting the listeners that somebody has scored, and then you know,

1150
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 4: maybe have an American one and then maybe have a

1151
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: Latvian one, and that way the audience will know that

1152
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 4: the folks will be able to get their their hockey

1153
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: updates from us. When you hear this more a like

1154
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 4: a country specific version of it, then someone will have

1155
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 4: scored and then we will well, then we'll update it

1156
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: will tell you, well the Americans have scored, it's now

1157
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 4: to nothing.

1158
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: That sort of thing.

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 4: So the goalie horn is it's it's a goal horn,

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: I guess, not a goalie horn. The goal horn will

1161
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 4: sound do we wanna do we want to use it

1162
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: during this game between Sweden and Italy. So it's too

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 4: too Sweden is playing Italy right now in men's hockey,

1164
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: and uh, if there's a goal scored in this game,

1165
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: is there going to be another game on after this one?

1166
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 4: If a goal is scored in hockey, while we're on

1167
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 4: the air, Tarren will play the goal horn.

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna be very very.

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01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 4: That sounded like a different goal. You have different ones now, No, no, no, no,

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01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 4: that was the end of it. Oh, that was the

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: end of it. Okay, gotcha. I'll be painfully honest with you.

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 4: If let's say Italy scored right now, I'll be able

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01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: to tell you, well, this is the score, and here

1174
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 4: here's how much time is left. I'm not going to

1175
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 4: be able to give you who got the two assists,

1176
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 4: not probably gonna be able to tell you who scored

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 4: the goal. Like I might be able to say number

1178
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 4: thirty six just scored for Italy, and then you could

1179
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: refer to your Olympic men's hockey program. But that's a

1180
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 4: little bit of a public service. By the way, the

1181
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 4: Netflix documentary on the nineteen eighty US Olympic hockey team

1182
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 4: is spectacular, like and you probably felt like, we don't

1183
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 4: need another one of those.

1184
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah we did. It's awesome.

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01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 4: It's awesome, by the way, that is the subject whenever

1186
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 4: the conversation comes up, like the piece of sports memorabilia

1187
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 4: you wish you had the most. My sister got married

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 4: in Lake Placid, New York, eleven years ago, and so

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Speaker 4: I had some time to kill in Lake Placid, which

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Speaker 4: was the host city of the nineteen eighty Winter Olympics,

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01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 4: and the most famous hockey game, arguably of all time,

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 4: is when the US beat Russia, and that hockey arena

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01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 4: is still there, as are the luge in Bob's led tracks.

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01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 4: And so my sister got married like late in the day.

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01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: I had nothing to do in the morning, and so

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01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: I went over to the hockey arena and you could

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 4: just walk in and there's like a youth league game

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 4: going on, and the place looks like it did in

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty. It's kind of rickety and broken down. It's

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Speaker 4: maybe been updated over the last ten years. But inside

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01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: the arena is the official Lake Placid nineteen eighty Olympic Museum,

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01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 4: and admission is like two dollars or three dollars, And

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01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 4: again this is eleven years ago, so maybe the price

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 4: is changed. I'm sure it has. The museum itself is

1205
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 4: like the size of a room. It's like the the

1206
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 4: size of the room I'm in now times too, it's

1207
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: not very big. And on loop they have al Michael's

1208
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 4: call of the nineteen eighty US victory over Russia, which

1209
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 4: set them up to play Finland in the Gold Medal game.

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01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: And the guy who's working there is like the one

1211
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: attendant in the museum. He hears this al Michael's call

1212
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 4: all day long. It just it runs on loop and

1213
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: at any point if you say to him, like, hey,

1214
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: pick up the action, he'll just start like reciting what

1215
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 4: al Michaels is saying. He has to hear this game

1216
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: every day. In the museum, they have one of the goals,

1217
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: one of the physical goals from the net the pipes

1218
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 4: from that game. And I wanted to buy like some merch,

1219
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 4: those prices were absurd, and again that's eleven years ago,

1220
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 4: so I can't imagine what the merch is like. So

1221
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 4: I didn't get But I'm talking to the guy and

1222
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 4: I said, do you know where the other goal.

1223
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: Is, because obviously there were two. They have one.

1224
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 4: There's an American flag draped on it. And he said,

1225
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,959
Speaker 4: we have no idea. Somebody's got that goal. Somebody maybe

1226
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 4: spend decades flinging pucks into it in their driveway. That's

1227
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 4: the piece of sports memorabilia. I want that goal. Can

1228
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 4: you imagine owning I mean maybe it doesn't exist, maybe

1229
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: it's in a closet somewhere, but this dude had no idea.

1230
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 4: Somebody's got that goal. Can you imagine what that would

1231
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 4: be worth? Anyway, as hockey unfolds, we should have done

1232
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 4: this yesterday, But as hockey unfolds on our show, the

1233
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 4: goldhorn will sound tomorrow. The US plays last year very much.

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01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 4: And by the way, if the Cyclones play another Mattine

1235
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 4: game while we're on the air, now you know Cyclones games,

1236
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 4: they stream them, we might the goldhorn might be a

1237
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: permanent feature on this show whenever there's daytime pucks happening

1238
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 4: while we're on. I haven't thought about it that much,

1239
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 4: But because Olympic Hockey, a lot of folks who don't

1240
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 4: typically watch like NHL, certainly NHL regularly. Women's hockey quarterfinals

1241
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 4: Friday at three ten, I think the the US is

1242
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 4: in that US is going to win the Golden Women's Hockey.

1243
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 4: So Friday at three ten, Women's hockey Quarterfinals US versus

1244
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 4: Italy Italy again. So for the next two days and well,

1245
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 4: the rehearsal will be today. Whenever a goal is scored,

1246
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 4: you'll hear the goal horn. Would it be fun if

1247
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 4: in basketball every time score, every time somebody scored, we

1248
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 4: played a horn. No at Madison Square Garden last night,

1249
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 4: that horn would have been broken by the time the

1250
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: game was over, given what the Pacers did to.

1251
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 10: My next It's almost like a certain football stadiums after

1252
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 10: every first day on I know Bowling Green played a

1253
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 10: falcon and noise.

1254
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 4: Did it really after every first down? Yes, it's quite

1255
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 4: annoy Yeah, I can understand that. All right, Well, we've

1256
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 4: got a goalhorn, and when goals are scored, you'll know

1257
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: here before anybody else. This is the kind of stuff

1258
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 4: they're not doing on Eddie and Rocky Show. No, no, no, no, no.

1259
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 4: I think they're still getting mad about bad money. It's

1260
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 4: twenty seven away from five o'clock five, one, three, seven, four,

1261
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 4: nine fifth. That was just a sports talk radio segment

1262
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 4: we did on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 6: Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,600
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Speaker 7: dot com. On eastbound two seventy five, after Ward's corner

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01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 7: road left two lanes blocked from an accident. A thirty

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 7: minute delayed back from seventy one in Ohio northbound on

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01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 7: seventy one, there's an accident at Ridge on the left shoulder.

1272
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Speaker 7: I met Eazelik with traffic yes morning.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you who scores. Chances are his name

1274
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: with a G.

1275
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 4: So Sweden has outshot Italy forty one to eleven and

1276
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 4: they now lead the game three to two, fifty to

1277
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: go in the second period. We are your your home

1278
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 4: of Olympic hockey right here. It's interesting, Like I my

1279
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: favorite sports. If I have to have a favorite, it's

1280
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 4: a tie. Baseball, college basketball, the NFL, college football, the NBA,

1281
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 4: They're all tied.

1282
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: I like hockey.

1283
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 4: This is my issue that I've always had with some

1284
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 4: not all, some hockey fans. It's the same issue I

1285
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: have with some tennis fans. Also a sport that I

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Speaker 4: thoroughly enjoy when you you know, you acknowledge, like, come,

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Speaker 4: I'm a casual fan. I don't follow it that closely,

1288
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Speaker 4: but I love to watch the sport. I've got a

1289
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 4: favorite team. Invariably, like I'll get shouted down, like yeah,

1290
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Speaker 4: what do you know who the backup goaltender for the

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Speaker 4: Flames is, Like, man, I don't admit it.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I sorry.

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Speaker 4: There's a level of gatekeeping there that makes me feel weird.

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Speaker 4: But in the Olympics, you know, we all love the

1295
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Speaker 4: Olympics and we all love a goldhorn, so we'll sound

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Speaker 4: it throughout the Olympic tournament. There's not a lot of

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Speaker 4: and no one has gotten hurt today, which is good.

1303
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Speaker 4: College hoops tonight, UC looks to get above five hundred

1304
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Speaker 4: with the game against Kansas State tip off at nine o'clock.

1305
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 4: Pregame on seven hundred WLW starts at eight thirty. Also tonight,

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Speaker 4: Ohio State takes on USC.

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Speaker 10: That question real quick, yeah, go ahead, you get a caller. Yeah,

1308
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 10: how you feel about the big twelve U and LED floor.

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01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 4: Better than last year's? I agree, anything is better than

1310
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 4: last year's floor, So yeah, it looks neat.

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01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 4: I don't know how into it I'm going to be

1313
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 4: like once there's a game I care about, but anything

1314
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 4: is an improvement on what they had last year. I

1315
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 4: think what they've had the last two years, certainly what

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: they had last year, I remember just being just it

1317
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 4: was really hard on the eyes. So yeah, whatnot, we'll

1318
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 4: see The NBA has done this right, They've done the

1319
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 4: the LED score led floor. Correct, Yes, they do it

1320
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 4: for All Star weekend and I thought it was cool looking.

1321
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 2: Why not?

1322
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 4: You know what, if you see wins five straight games

1323
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: on an LED floor, then they should play on an

1324
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 4: LED floor forever. Put one at fifth third Arena. I

1325
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 4: had something else I needed to mention, and I have

1326
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: a completely lost track.

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Speaker 2: I do not know. I do not know. JT. You're

1328
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1329
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Speaker 11: Go ahead, Hey, I just want to make a point

1330
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 11: though that I watched the last like i'd say like

1331
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 11: eight to ten super Bowls with my dad and he's

1332
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 11: in his mid to late seventies and he doesn't get

1333
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 11: any halftime show. This year he was like he calls

1334
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 11: he called bad Buddy.

1335
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: He was like the rabbit he.

1336
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 11: Called him, like like the naughty rabbit. Like he could

1337
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 11: say anything but bad Bunny. But at least he was like,

1338
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 11: well it beats that last year's guy.

1339
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: What was his name, Lamar, Kendrick Lamar.

1340
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know Kendrick Lamar, like you and I know that,

1341
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 11: but my dad can't say Kendrick Lamar. He's like, I

1342
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 11: think he understood more of bad Bunny or naughty rabbit

1343
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 11: or the rabbit guy whoever he called him. He's like, well,

1344
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 11: at least I understand there's cornstalks out there, like is sugarcane?

1345
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 11: Dad from Puerto Rico. He's like, what about that lady

1346
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 11: that what up there? And she just shes sugar booty?

1347
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 8: What was her name, Tara.

1348
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: Or Shakira k one year? Yeah, I like that one.

1349
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but my point is like you

1350
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 11: don't have to get it or to understand English, like

1351
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 11: I think if you're an older person, and if you're

1352
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 11: offended by like you can't understand what Kenneth Lamar is saying,

1353
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 11: or what or Shakira is Why is she's up there

1354
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 11: shaking your booty?

1355
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: Or is the band Rabbit as I.

1356
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 11: Like to call him, like you're just a little bad

1357
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 11: half touch.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm forty eight years old. I love music.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in the NFL's demo when it comes to

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Speaker 4: the halftime show, whether they're looking for someone mainstream or

1361
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 4: whether they're looking for an audience that might not typically

1362
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 4: tune into the Super Bowl halftime show. No matter what

1363
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: year it is, no matter where the game is, the

1364
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: time for artists that are aimed at me has passed.

1365
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Speaker 4: So I view it the same way every single year,

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Speaker 4: every single year.

1367
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Speaker 2: It ain't for me.

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Speaker 4: There's a very good chance that during the halftime show

1369
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 4: I might do something else because I've spent most of

1370
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Speaker 4: the day watching pre game show or in this case,

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Speaker 4: you see played earlier in the day, I've watched the

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Speaker 4: first half.

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01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,959
Speaker 2: It was on. I was doing my kids' bedtime.

1374
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 4: We were packing a lunch for school the next day,

1375
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 4: and then I found out once I packed the lunch,

1376
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Speaker 4: we didn't have school the next day. So it's like,

1377
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 4: you know what, maybe I should be more in touch

1378
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 4: with that than what's going on in halftime. I just

1379
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 4: it's never aimed at me, and so I just I

1380
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 4: don't lose my mind. I do not understand whether you

1381
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 4: loved it and thought it was the greatest thing ever,

1382
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 4: or whether you thought this is not for me. I

1383
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 4: just do not understand people losing their minds. I don't

1384
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 4: understand why the halftime show has to be this cultural touchstone.

1385
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 4: It's a fifteen minute musical performance that nobody watching had

1386
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 4: to pay for. And I guess what frustrates me about

1387
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 4: the angst over? And it's like everybody just, you know,

1388
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 4: out of instinct, settle into their lanes. Everybody's take was predictable,

1389
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 4: it wasn't spontaneous. Nobody was saying anything new. We couldn't

1390
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 4: have fun with it. And when that becomes the case

1391
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 4: when it comes to any issue, I just tune out.

1392
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: And if that bothers people, that then it bothers people.

1393
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 4: When I can put what everybody's take is going to be,

1394
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 4: I just I leave, I go away. I tune out.

1395
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 4: And so I tuned all that out. I had to

1396
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 4: have time show on. I watched it and said, you

1397
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 4: know what, this ain't for me because most halftime shows

1398
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 4: as a forty eight year old man aren't going to

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Speaker 4: be aimed at me.

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 11: Well, don't you think it was a great marketing choice

1401
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 11: by the NFL. People like you and me, we're on

1402
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 11: the same age. We're going to watch the super Bowl

1403
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 11: no matter what. It doesn't matter if there's someone from

1404
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 11: the Brass, Rear and Newport that does that halftime show.

1405
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 11: You and I are going to watch the super Bowl. Right,

1406
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 11: So they minus we branch after're doing NFL Europe. They're

1407
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 11: trying to put a team in Mexico. You know, I

1408
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 11: wouldn't be surprised next year if they put a K

1409
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 11: Pop Amma on there. Hey, just deal with it because

1410
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 11: the core audience, we're not going to not watch the

1411
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 11: super Bowl.

1412
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: Correct.

1413
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1414
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 4: Look, everything the NFL does everything, whether you like it

1415
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 4: or not. By the way, there's stuff I don't like.

1416
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 4: But everything they do is calculated a because they feel

1417
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: like they could expand their brand, expand their audience, expand

1418
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 4: their revenue base. Everything is done from a calculated perspective.

1419
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 4: They solve value in it. My understanding is that what

1420
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 4: they got in terms of ratings justified their decision. And

1421
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 4: in the years that I've been doing this, which you know,

1422
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 4: nineteen years, I haven't found one halftime show where everybody's like,

1423
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 4: everybody's like, yeah, that's awesome now. I like Bruce Springsteen

1424
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 4: and the Rolling Stones and Paul McCartney, each of whom

1425
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 4: have played the halftime show. Every time one of those

1426
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 4: iconic artists played the halftime show, I've heard from people

1427
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 4: who said this is trash. Well, it's not aimed at you, Like,

1428
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 4: you're not going to find any act that's aimed at everybody.

1429
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 4: I see no issue with trying to expand the audience.

1430
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 4: But again, like the fighting over it, it's like, I

1431
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 4: just I want to ask some people, are you legitimately

1432
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 4: that mad about this?

1433
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 2: Like legitimately or are you performatively mad about it?

1434
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 5: Right?

1435
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 4: You just well, I've this is the stance I have

1436
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 4: to take because generally this is how I feel like.

1437
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1438
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 4: I don't think as many people were genuinely as pissed

1439
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 4: off as everybody pretended to be. And again, if that

1440
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: bothers you, fine, it was a fifteen minute free musical performance.

1441
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 4: You had the option to not watch what I do

1442
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 4: find funny is a lot of folks who said they

1443
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 4: weren't going to watch did watch and they had a

1444
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 4: take on something that they said they weren't going to watch.

1445
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: That to me is amusing.

1446
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 11: But we're getting old, Like I'm not to the point

1447
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 11: now where I've never heard of the guests nor the

1448
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 11: musical performance at Saturday Night Live.

1449
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: Didn't hang out here, JT.

1450
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 4: Thank you as a as a Saturday Night Live viewer

1451
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 4: who hasn't watched the show live in here. I watch

1452
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 4: it on YouTube, like I will see who the artist

1453
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 4: is and usually go, who the hell's that? Like, I

1454
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 4: will admit in that in that realm, I'm out of touch,

1455
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 4: and that's okay. I am fine being that way. But

1456
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 4: I just I don't resent things that aren't aimed at me.

1457
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 4: I just I'm sorry, man. And this is not the

1458
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 4: culture war show. This is the fun and game sport show.

1459
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 4: But I just I don't believe that most people who

1460
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 4: are expressing anger over a stupid musical performance, which is

1461
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 4: what it is, was that way when Springsteen performed, I

1462
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 4: thought it was cool. It's a silly twelve thirteen eighteen

1463
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 4: minute musical performance, like it came, it went we moved

1464
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 4: on to something else. Now I get we have a

1465
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: population of people who just exist to find things to

1466
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 4: be mad about and express their anger about. And so

1467
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: they got their fix on Sunday and then moved on

1468
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 4: to whatever made a mad next, or whatever they could

1469
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 4: performatively act mad about next. I just sorry, man, but

1470
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 4: like in so many of these cases, I just I

1471
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 4: feel like everybody's just playing a role.

1472
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be mad about this, all act mad

1473
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: about it. Okay.

1474
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 4: By the way, there were folks who were like, man,

1475
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 4: this was the great est thing I've ever seen in

1476
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 4: my life.

1477
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: It's like, was it?

1478
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 4: Was? It?

1479
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 11: Really?

1480
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: Really the greatest thing you've ever seen? Like it is

1481
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: good entertaining product production value was awesome. I had no

1482
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: idea what the dude was saying.

1483
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 4: That's cool, didn't pay attention to Spanish class like once

1484
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 4: once we settle into these like all right, I've got

1485
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 4: to take this dance and be mad about it, and

1486
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 4: then I've got to be mad at those people who

1487
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 4: are mad about it. Like as just as a person,

1488
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 4: I tune out. It's why most of these things that

1489
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 4: people just engage in cultural war battles with I just

1490
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 4: I leave I leave the discussion because there's rarely anything insightful.

1491
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 4: Nobody's going to change their mind. Like nobody's going to

1492
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 4: change their mind, So I just I go away. I

1493
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 4: don't make it a part of my show. I don't

1494
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,799
Speaker 4: make it a part of my life in my circle

1495
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 4: of friends. And you know, I'm blessed to have a

1496
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 4: lot of people that I consider dear friends. Not one

1497
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 4: of us texted each other about the halftime show. It's

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Speaker 4: like it's on some watch. I'm sure some didn't watch,

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Speaker 4: Like in real life, was anybody really that mad? When

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Speaker 4: I came to work on Monday, folks were talking about

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Speaker 4: Drake May and some of the commercials Seattle's defense, anybody

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Speaker 4: who's like that into the halftime show that out of

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01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 4: the half, Like, I just sorry, man, I am. I

1504
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 4: am just not made for a culture war. I just

1505
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 4: I tune it all out. If that makes me a

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01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 4: crummy American, that it makes me a crummy American, And

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 4: if it forces you to portray me as something that

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 4: I'm not, I ain't gonna be able to talk you

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Speaker 4: out of that either. Just I view that specifically as

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01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: something that's not I watch the Grammys, I watch the

1511
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 4: Grammys because it's a fun night on Twitter, and occasionally

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01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 4: some fun stuff will happen. Oftentimes there are acts where

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01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, don't know who that is. Sometimes there will

1514
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 4: be somebody who like, man, want to know more about them.

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 4: Olivia Dean would be one of them. Uh, but it's

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01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 4: not aimed at me. It's next year's act. Whoever it is,

1517
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 4: probably gonna be aimed at me. If it's Taylor Swift,

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 4: ain't gonna be aimed at me. And to my daughter,

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01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 4: show watch, I'll watch with her. Uh So there you go.

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Speaker 4: There's the one segment we will ever do on that

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Speaker 4: ten away from five o'clock, more of your phone calls

1522
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 4: are coming up. My conversation with UC defensive coordinator Nate

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Speaker 4: Woodie at five thirty five. We got to get to

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Speaker 4: the thing the Bengals must do differently this offseason and

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Speaker 4: more on a very weird Reds spring training, including the

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Speaker 4: guy who uh everything hinges on this spring coming up

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Speaker 2: Can we do the show from the combine? That'd be fun.

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01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 4: We got the hockey on and Sweden leagues Italy in

1547
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: the Olympics three too.

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01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: They're playing in the third period.

1549
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Speaker 4: There's lots of unintentionally funny things that happen in sports.

1550
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 4: There's lots of intentionally funny things that happen happened in sports.

1551
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 4: But during the before the most recent recent stoppage, a

1552
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 4: dude from Sweden got chucked in the penalty box, but

1553
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 4: right before the whistle one of the players on Italy

1554
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 4: lost his stick.

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01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 2: And though I don't watch nearly.

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01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 4: As much hockey as some of the other sports, it

1557
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 4: is never not funny when a hockey player loses his

1558
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: or her stick and just has to skate around without

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01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 4: their stick while the game is still unfolding. Like, I

1560
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 4: don't care if you're like a season puckhead where you

1561
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 4: watch center ice every night, or you just watch the

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01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 4: Olympics and check in. I don't know how that ever,

1563
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 4: how that ever, doesn't elicit a smile or a genuine

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 4: guffall for me. Just a few minutes ago, off Fair,

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01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 4: it was somewhere in the middle. I'm oegar. This is

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01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for listening. In thirty minutes, I'll

1567
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,440
Speaker 4: chat with the new defensive coordinator at the University of Cincinnati,

1568
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 4: Nate Woodie, who has spent the last five years at Army.

1569
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 4: I am looking forward to you hearing that because I

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01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 4: taped it with him yesterday. I'm looking forward to talking

1571
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 4: with him. I'd have to go back in time. Do

1572
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 4: we have spring training is underway? I started the show

1573
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 4: by talking about the weirdness of the Reds. And you'll

1574
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 4: hear Pat Brennan address that from yesterday's show in just

1575
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 4: a few minutes. It's it's a team, and you look

1576
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 4: at what's happening around the majors. Jackson Holliday hurt, Francisco

1577
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 4: Lindor hurt. He's gonna miss the first six weeks. Corbyn

1578
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 4: Carroll in Arizona, who I may have called Clay Carroll

1579
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 4: before because I'm a dope. He's hurt, broken bone, not

1580
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 4: going to be able to play in the World Baseball

1581
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 4: Classic up in the air for opening Day. The one

1582
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 4: thing the Reds have going for it right now, there's

1583
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 4: a level of stability. Now, level of stability is not

1584
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 4: as good as high level of quality. I think all

1585
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 4: of us wish the Reds would have added one more

1586
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 4: bat like think about right now, there's a guy without

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01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 4: a stick. See, it's funny. Another guy lost his stick

1588
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: and Italy's goalie just made us. Is the horn gonna sound?

1589
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. Another guy just lost the goalie loss.

1590
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 2: That's even funnier. How did his stick end up on

1591
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 2: the other side of the ice? Wow, I'll tell you

1592
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 2: what it's unbelievabroke his stick broke with to check the

1593
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: quality of that stick. Anyway, I think we all wish

1594
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: the Reds would have gotten one more bad. Like, think

1595
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 2: of the plan in left field right now. I feel like,

1596
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: ideally Sal Stewart has an awesome spring and you're like,

1597
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: that guy's playing first, and then Spencer Steer becomes for

1598
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: the most part, the everyday left fielder now because of

1599
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: his positional versatility and the fact that he's good with

1600
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: the glove pretty much anywhere he could play. He'll still

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01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: move around.

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01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 4: But think about it, it's like the plan for left

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01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 4: field is you hope that Sal Stewart can make the team,

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01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 4: which I think that's a good bet that he will,

1605
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 4: and you hope he's good enough to be named a

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01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 4: starting first baseman, and then you can move Spencer Steer

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 4: to left. If that doesn't work, it's Will Benson or

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 4: JJ Blede. Now there's a part of me that loves

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01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 4: Will Benson. I love his personality When he is locked in,

1610
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 4: he's really fun to watch, but he's an automatic out

1611
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 4: against lefties and he just goes through these stretches where

1612
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 4: he's an offensive zero. Last year, in the same season,

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01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 4: he was one week he was a National League Player

1614
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 4: of the Week and then like five weeks later he

1615
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 4: was playing in Louisville because he wasn't very good. So

1616
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 4: it's like left field is him or JJ Bledet or

1617
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 4: hopefully Sal Stewart's good enough to make the team and

1618
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 4: move Spencer Steer to left, probably making your team worse

1619
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 4: defensively because Spencer Steer is so good with the glove

1620
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 4: at first base. Ideally they go get a corner outfielder.

1621
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: They got at the other corner outfield spot. They got

1622
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 4: a guy who played third base his entire life until

1623
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 4: late last season. That said, there is some stability. You

1624
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 4: look at this team. There's not a lot of openings.

1625
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 4: There's not a lot of roster openings, a lot of

1626
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 4: bullpen openings. You know, there's an opening for the fifth

1627
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 4: spot in the rotation. But it's you know, it's kind

1628
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 4: of cool that they didn't have to go sign some

1629
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 4: thirty six year old has been and it was good

1630
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 4: four years ago and is looking for one more paycheck,

1631
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 4: Like it's Corbyn Burns or Brandon williamsoner that Corbyn Burns,

1632
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 4: Chase Burns, Corbyn Burns would be cool. Chase Burns or

1633
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 4: uh Brandon Williamson, maybe Chase Petty or Rent Louder.

1634
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:18,520
Speaker 2: Like good good options.

1635
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 4: They didn't go sign a whole bunch of dudes to

1636
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 4: minor league contracts and then invite into spring training hoping

1637
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 4: they can make the team like it. Think of in

1638
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 4: somewhat recent past for the Reds, how many times did they,

1639
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 4: like go sign a guy as a minor league free agent,

1640
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 4: invite him to camp, and you're thinking that guy's gonna

1641
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 4: make the team. And not only might he make the team,

1642
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: he may be in the opening day starting lineup. Those

1643
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 4: things happen, and they can happen for good teams. Ideally,

1644
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 4: you go to spring training, your team is pretty much set.

1645
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 4: Health is a big reason why what they've done this offseason,

1646
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 4: big reason why, Like I think right now, it's pretty

1647
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 4: easy to identify who's going to play where I think

1648
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 4: right now, we could jot down twenty six names and

1649
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 4: say that's the opening day roster and be pretty damn close.

1650
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 4: Injuries can affect that, And you might argue injuries will

1651
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 4: affect that. So there's a level of stability that's nice,

1652
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 4: But there's a level of stability that I think you

1653
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 4: associate with a team that feels like it has a

1654
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 4: higher ceiling. And that's what's weird about this team. I

1655
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 4: think the floor is higher. I'm not sure how high.

1656
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: The ceiling is.

1657
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 4: Like, I don't believe you're going to find that many

1658
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 4: folks who pick the Reds to win the National League

1659
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 4: Central I don't believe this team.

1660
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 2: The consensus view.

1661
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 4: Is this, this is a team that's on the short

1662
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 4: list of National League Championship probabilities. And yet if you

1663
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: just kind of talk about how spring training is going

1664
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 4: to unfold, no real roster spots open, no real starting

1665
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 4: jobs open, not that much to really sort through during

1666
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 4: spring training. The sal Stewart thing, though, is really important.

1667
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 4: I mean, just think of the high end here. He's

1668
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 4: got to make the team, need him to have a

1669
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 4: good spring training. If the idea is for him to

1670
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 4: play first base, there is a drop off from Spencer

1671
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 4: Steer to sal Stewart. But if he makes the team

1672
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 4: and if he plays every day, I think it's reasonable

1673
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 4: to expect twenty to twenty five homers. I won't go

1674
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 4: as far as thirty because it will be his first

1675
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 4: full big league season. There's always an adjustment. But he

1676
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 4: can hit the ball out of the ballpark in a month.

1677
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 4: He had five homers last year. He showed you his power.

1678
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: Think of what that can unlock for this team if

1679
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 4: he ends up being what we hope. The first part

1680
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 4: is what we just talked about. You don't have to

1681
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 4: have Will Benson and JJ Bladees le fielders. That's probably

1682
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 4: not a bad thing, not to say that there's not

1683
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 4: a role for those guys on the team, because there

1684
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 4: is there should be. But we talk a lot about

1685
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 4: the middle of the order. My guess is sal Stewart's

1686
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 4: knocking about fifth, fourth, anywhere above that. He's probably gonna

1687
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 4: hit seventh on the opening in the opening day lineup

1688
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 4: if he makes the team. But if you can hit

1689
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 4: the ball out of the ballpark, and you now have

1690
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 4: like two legitimate power threats that you didn't have last year.

1691
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: Sala Stewart was only here for a month.

1692
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 4: He should have been called up well sooner, and they

1693
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 4: didn't have Euhanea Suarez, Like if you if you can,

1694
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 4: if you can get that, like it's it's what the

1695
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 4: Reds thought Christian and carnassion Strand would be. And you

1696
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 4: talk about somebody who just feels like he's completely off

1697
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 4: the grid and you hate it for him. But a

1698
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 4: year ago it was, well, they'll get Cees back, he'll

1699
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 4: play first base, he'll hit a bunch of home runs,

1700
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 4: and aside from that, like one series in early June

1701
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 4: against the Diamondbacks last year that never really materialized, maybe

1702
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:10,440
Speaker 4: Salas Stewart can be what they hoped Christian and carnassion

1703
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 4: Stram was gonna be last year. Like there's lots of

1704
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 4: key members of this team. You need Matt McClain to

1705
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 4: be better. You need better too, hole production, whether it's

1706
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 4: Matt McLain or novel noelve Marte. It'd be cool if

1707
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 4: the catching production was better. Travino hit in the first half,

1708
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 4: didn't hit it all in the second half. It'd be

1709
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 4: awesome to have Tyler Stevenson have a big offensive year

1710
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 4: in his last year of team control. But you hate

1711
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 4: to put this on a guy who hasn't played a

1712
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 4: full big league season, you really do. But sal Stewart

1713
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 4: holds such a big, important key for this team in

1714
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 4: the spring because then let's say he doesn't make it.

1715
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 4: Let's say he just has a bad spring and it happens,

1716
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 4: and they go, you know what, for the time being,

1717
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 4: its best that you with the big league club. We

1718
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 4: don't want him, you know, sitting on the bench. We

1719
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 4: want them getting regular at bats, and so we're gonna

1720
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 4: send them down and that may sound far fetched, but.

1721
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:09,560
Speaker 2: It's a possibility.

1722
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 4: Well, then your corner outfield is again what we just

1723
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 4: talked about Bledet and Benson. That doesn't inspire a lot

1724
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 4: of confidence. And then you know, just as the season starts,

1725
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 4: you're looking for power from somewhere. Maybe Ellie hits more

1726
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 4: this year if he's healthy. My guess, as he does,

1727
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 4: uh a lot of the other guys, you sort of

1728
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 4: can wrap your brain around what they're gonna do. Sal

1729
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 4: Stewart I said last week I made the wager plus

1730
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 4: eight hundred for him to be an l Rookie of

1731
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 4: the Year, Like so much has to go right. That's

1732
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 4: that's why they have a Rookie of the Year award

1733
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 4: plus eight hundred. Just think of what it can mean

1734
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 4: for this team if now you have two guys.

1735
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: Who give you what.

1736
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 4: Was sorely missing from last year's team on this year team.

1737
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 4: You don't want to put that much on a guy

1738
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 4: who's never played a full big league season, but he

1739
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 4: really is important because there's a high end there that

1740
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 4: if he can tap into it and they can tap

1741
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 4: into it, that's how things can really accelerate. And what

1742
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 4: we're looking for here is for things to accelerate from

1743
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 4: what they were last year to being dramatically better. Quarter

1744
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,839
Speaker 4: after five. The Bengals conversation with Paul Danner Junior yesterday.

1745
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 4: If you missed it, it was terrific. Go listen to

1746
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 4: it on the iHeartRadio app thanks to long Next Sports Grill.

1747
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 4: We talked about his ten step plan to get the

1748
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 4: Bengals to the Super Bowl this year, and look like

1749
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 4: if you look at the list, and I encourage you

1750
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 4: to go read it at the Athletic dot Com, it's

1751
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 4: one of those things. It's actually an eleven part list

1752
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 4: because there's a one A and a one B. If

1753
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 4: you go up and down that list, every single thing

1754
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 4: on there is plausible.

1755
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 2: Some more realistic than others.

1756
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 4: But every single item on there is plausible, and every

1757
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 4: single item on there can get done. But there's a

1758
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 4: difference between each and all. Can each of those things

1759
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 4: get done?

1760
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 2: Sure?

1761
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 4: Will all of them? It's fair to be skeptical. Are

1762
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 4: the Bengals different? A lot of people look at that

1763
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 4: through the lens of You know, do they make a

1764
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 4: big swing in free agency and spend more money on

1765
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: one player than we expect. By the way, there's an

1766
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 4: argument against that because of all their needs on defense.

1767
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 4: Or trade the tenth pick for a guy like Max Crosby,

1768
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 4: which would be bold, it would be very un Bengals. Like,

1769
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 4: let's be honest, that's not a likely outcome. I look

1770
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 4: at it slightly different. If the Bengals are really different

1771
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 4: this offseason, then the easy stuff gets done pretty quickly,

1772
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 4: pretty quietly. They should sign DJ Turner. DJ is going

1773
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 4: to have something to say about that. They should sign

1774
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 4: Dax Hill. Dax is gonna have something to say about that.

1775
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 4: There's risk there with DJ. Maybe you're concerned that he

1776
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: was a little bit of a late bloomer, but he

1777
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 4: played like one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL

1778
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 4: last season. Dax Hill maybe hasn't shown that much as

1779
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 4: an outside corner. But if he does, and you know,

1780
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 4: then in a year you got to figure out how

1781
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 4: to how to replace him in free agency or sign

1782
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 4: him to an even more expensive contract or franchise tag.

1783
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is a test for me, and the

1784
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 4: Bengals do not care and nor should they want to

1785
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 4: show want to show people you're different, want to show

1786
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 4: you and I you're different. Get those two guys done

1787
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 4: before the draft. Get him done now. Like the the

1788
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 4: the Jamar Chase T. Higgins press conference took place right

1789
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 4: when free agency started last year, half something similar might

1790
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 4: not be as well attended, might not be as as

1791
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 4: fun and as energetic, but like you talk about, like

1792
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 4: something that sends a message, we're different. Here's why we're different.

1793
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 4: We're not screwing around with these guys. You can't sign

1794
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 4: it player. You might then go, well, wait a minute,

1795
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 4: what about Chase Brown, or all right, we're gonna we're

1796
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 4: gonna pun on Miles Murphy for a year, which I

1797
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 4: would because you have the fifth year option. But with

1798
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 4: those two guys, they play corner, they're playing it well.

1799
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 4: Lock those guys in instead of needlessly dragging either into

1800
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 4: the next phase of the offseason, or dragging one or

1801
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 4: the other into training camp, or doing something that just

1802
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 4: creates animosity or creates a distraction like the off season

1803
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 4: for this franchise has made my job so easy the

1804
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 4: last couple of years, whether it's holdouts, hold ins, contract squabbles,

1805
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 4: drafting a guy that you don't sign until camp starts.

1806
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 4: The Trey Hendrickson ordeal, Jesse Bates, T Higgins, Jamar Chase,

1807
01:35:55,520 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 4: Joe Mixon, so many of these. Obviously you can only

1808
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: control so much of that. But if things are really

1809
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 4: different this year, truly different, and it's a different way

1810
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 4: of doing things, and it's a way of doing things

1811
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 4: that is focused solely on winning the championship next year,

1812
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 4: getting off to a great start and taking advantage of

1813
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 4: all the upheaval in the AFC North, then get these

1814
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 4: deals done. You're gonna need the cooperation of the players involved.

1815
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 4: That goes without saying. But what you can't help but

1816
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 4: wonder is where's the off field issue gonna come from?

1817
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 4: And when I say off field, I'm not talking about

1818
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 4: a legal problem or something like that. Like, how are

1819
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 4: they unnecessarily going to create tension, drama, a distraction. How

1820
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,719
Speaker 4: are they gonna do something that just shifts the focus

1821
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 4: away from the important goal of winning a championship this year,

1822
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 4: Because what they did with Trey hendry and felt counterproductive

1823
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 4: toward that goal, And same with Jamar a couple of

1824
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 4: years ago, and t Higgins and so many of these

1825
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 4: If things are truly different, It's yes, go make the

1826
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 4: bold move, Go trade the tenth pick for a guy

1827
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 4: like Jeffrey Simmons or Max Crosby. That would be cool,

1828
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 4: that would be interesting. But like, handle these contracts. Do

1829
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 4: the reasonably simple. Look at a guy like DJ Turner

1830
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 4: and go, you've arrived. We're gonna pay you, Dax. It's

1831
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 4: taken a while, it's taken a while for you to

1832
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 4: find a home, and you've had to stay healthy. But

1833
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 4: you know what, it's working. We're gonna pay you. And

1834
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 4: by the way, they can do that and still be

1835
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 4: very active in free agency. There's a ton of money,

1836
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 4: tons of money, I should say, But like, that's it.

1837
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 4: If things are truly different, those two moves, which won't

1838
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 4: be the most headline grabbing. Both are under contract to

1839
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 4: play for the team this year, but just by let's

1840
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 4: just say early, we'll even give them like the first

1841
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 4: couple of waves of free agency. But a few weeks

1842
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 4: before the draft, shortly after Red's opening day, Dak's DJ done.

1843
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 2: Here they are, they talk.

1844
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 4: We are set at the two outside corner spots might

1845
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 4: not preclude you from taking a corner in the draft

1846
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 4: or signing a guy like Mike Hilton, who's a good

1847
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 4: slot corner, that kind of thing. But like in a

1848
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 4: year where you just you've got a lot of balls

1849
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 4: to juggle on defense, just get that part done. I'm

1850
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 4: I'm making it sound easier than it is, but relatively speaking,

1851
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 4: this shouldn't be that hard. What may be hard is

1852
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 4: convincing a free agent to want to play here. What

1853
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 4: may be hard is building a defense via free agency

1854
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 4: and the draft that can truly help this team win

1855
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 4: a championship. So there is the test, right, it's continuity,

1856
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 4: it's Duke, it's it's Zach. How are those guys gonna

1857
01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:00,839
Speaker 4: do things differently? How's this organization do things differently? Start

1858
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 4: with those two. Chase Brown, there's a different conversation. We

1859
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 4: all love Chase, but he is a running back. They've

1860
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 4: got a lot of money tied into offense. It's always

1861
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 4: going to be a pass first team. Maybe not easy

1862
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 4: to replace, but slightly easier. And again, if they signed

1863
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 4: Chase Brown, I don't think anybody's gonna lose their minds

1864
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 4: in anger. But handle these two easy ones and with

1865
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 4: those two guys, avoid this just unnecessarily getting us to

1866
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 4: July where we're still talking about one or both. We'll

1867
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 4: see twenty two minutes after five o'clock the a new

1868
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator at you see Nate Woodye, you'll hear him

1869
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Speaker 4: us yesterday from Red Spring training in Goodyear, and I

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Speaker 4: asked him how many roster spots are open?

1887
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Speaker 14: Not a lot, very few. It feels less like competition

1888
01:40:54,720 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 14: and more of shuffling guys around. I you know, Terry

1889
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 14: did say has already said platooning is okay, but you

1890
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 14: don't want to do it at too many positions. I

1891
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 14: think you know, first base, third base, Uh, the corner

1892
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 14: app but both corner outfield spots potentially those are areas

1893
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:21,719
Speaker 14: where you know platooning could be an option, and they'll

1894
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 14: two different degrees look at it in those spots. But

1895
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 14: it again, you have a core group of two or

1896
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 14: three players in mind for all of.

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Speaker 12: Those positions, and.

1898
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's it's just a lot of these

1899
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 14: spots are going to be spoken for, including the pecking

1900
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:48,719
Speaker 14: order for any platoon situations. So I think there's there's

1901
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 14: some uh, there are some possibilities there, particularly if you're

1902
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 14: a left handed bat like but but even there, I

1903
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 14: feel like Will Benson's got a leg up.

1904
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 2: Now, well that's Pat Brennan.

1905
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 4: The entire conversations available on the iHeartRadio app thanks to

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Speaker 4: Long Neck Sports Grill. Does that sound like the answer

1907
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 4: to the question about a team that is expected to

1908
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 4: win eighty two to eighty three games, or the answer

1909
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 4: to a question about a team that's expected to win

1910
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 4: ninety two or ninety three games.

1911
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Speaker 2: This team's weird. Again, weird doesn't have to be bad.

1912
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm weird. Been called that many times in my life.

1913
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 2: I'm not bad.

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01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 4: I mean I'm bad at things, including perhaps this. But

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01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 4: that's that's the weird dynamic for me, at least perhaps

1916
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 4: for you. Roster is largely set, not a lot of holes,

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Speaker 4: large core. Usually you say that about a team that's

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Speaker 4: got a really high ceiling. The question is does this

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Speaker 4: team have a really high ceiling? Sports headlines and we'll

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Speaker 4: try to quickly squeeze on a call or to.

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Speaker 6: Next these ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.

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Speaker 7: and accident has now been cleared away. However, on eastbound

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Speaker 7: two seventy five afterwards Corner Road, the left two lanes

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Speaker 7: are blocked off from an accident on that ezelic with traffic.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsoring.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati on the road you see, looking for its first

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Speaker 4: non home win, or as a normal person would say,

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Speaker 4: at first win away from home. This season is the

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Speaker 4: Bearcats take on Kansas State. Tip off at nine o'clock

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Speaker 4: from Manhattan. Pregame coverage starts at eight thirty. We've got

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Speaker 4: like two and a half minutes before we rack up

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Speaker 4: our interview with UC defensive coordinator Nate Woodie. Mike, you

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Speaker 4: have been waiting for a while. Thank you for your patience.

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Speaker 4: You got like two minutes. Go ahead, that's all you, buddy,

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Speaker 4: Go ahead?

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Speaker 8: Well yeah, go, I'm sorry, my bad.

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Speaker 2: That's all right. Clock Sticken, what do you got?

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Speaker 8: No, it's not, it's not okay, that's all right. Okay,

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Speaker 8: here we go. Uh reds Red's has got to start

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Speaker 8: running this year. I don't care what Terry Franklin says.

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Speaker 8: I'll just leave it at that. I think I bought

1947
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Speaker 8: this up yesterday. I really think the Pirates are going

1948
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Speaker 8: to be a tough team to deal with this year.

1949
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Speaker 8: With that Griffin that shortstop. He's no joke. He's actually

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Speaker 8: a more steadier fielder than than Ellie is.

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Speaker 4: Mike, you're a steadier You're a steadier fielder right now

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Speaker 4: than Ellie is.

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Speaker 8: And then nobody's talking about they headed Marcelo sooner from

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Speaker 8: from the Brave, which was a big addition in my opinion.

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Speaker 8: I just when we talk talk about the Reds and

1956
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Speaker 8: we talk about the harmony and the popularity of Juhanio Suarez,

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Speaker 8: I think that's a valuable thing for the team and

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Speaker 8: his leadership and stuff. But no, when it comes right

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Speaker 8: down to it, it's all about talent, isn't it really?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you are you? Are you? Haineo Suarez?

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Speaker 4: If he had eleven home runs last year, nobody would

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Speaker 4: care about his good vibes, only he wouldn't be here.

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Speaker 4: You're bringing him in for the home runs. But if

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Speaker 4: an ancillary benefit is you know, somebody who has been

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Speaker 4: there before and somebody who think, somebody who can foster

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Speaker 4: the sort of chemistry that I think made that twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three team work to the extent that it did that,

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Speaker 4: I think to a degree, last year's team was lacking

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Speaker 4: just a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you're right about that. Hey, how about Nick

1972
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Speaker 8: Martinez goes down to the Rays and the highest paid

1973
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Speaker 8: player on the team fifty over fifteen million. I'm happy

1974
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Speaker 8: for Nick. I like Nick.

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Speaker 4: I like him a lot. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 4: I thought in the two years that he was here,

1977
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Speaker 4: he served his role well. I thought folks last season

1978
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Speaker 4: focused a little bit too much on the amount of

1979
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Speaker 4: money he was making, because you know, he signed another

1980
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Speaker 4: qualifying offer. You did not want him to be in

1981
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Speaker 4: your starting rotation. He needed better options. But he studied

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Speaker 4: things in twenty twenty four when things were in flux

1983
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Speaker 4: with the starting rotation, and last year again I thought,

1984
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Speaker 4: I thought for what they were looking for from him,

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Speaker 4: he gave it to them. Yeah, he made twenty one

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Speaker 4: mil last year, but it's it's not like the rest

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Speaker 4: of the rotation was making anything. And we wish him

1988
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Speaker 4: the best. Mike, I hate to do it, but I

1989
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Speaker 4: got a run.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 4: You'll hear our interview with UC defensive coordinator Nate Woody.

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Speaker 3: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center at the UC

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Speaker 7: Health Backneck in Spine Center. Spine care is never one

1995
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Speaker 7: size fits all. From non surgical treatments to the most

1996
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Speaker 7: complex cases. They've mastered what's best for you or more

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Speaker 7: at you'd see hell dot com. A new accident in

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Speaker 7: on southbound seventy five after Tylersville Road that's got the

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Speaker 7: right two lanes blocked off and eastbound two seventy five

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Speaker 7: afterwards Corner Road two left lanes blocked off from an accident.

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Speaker 7: I'm at e Zelich with traffic.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored.

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Speaker 4: And they're going to play a game against the Guardians

2004
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Speaker 4: that doesn't count. In ten days fourteen from six ESPN

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, Nate Woody comes to the University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: from Army. He was the defensive coordinator at West Point.

2007
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Speaker 4: He's now the defensive coordinator for Scott Saderfield. I had

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Speaker 4: a chance to interview him at UZ yesterday. Here is

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Speaker 4: that conversation, so I appreciate you doing this. Let's first

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Speaker 4: talk about the decision. You were at Army and you know,

2011
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Speaker 4: had been there for a while, made the leap to

2012
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Speaker 4: come to the University of Cincinnati. And obviously there's a

2013
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Speaker 4: there's a built in relationship that you had with Scott Sadderfield,

2014
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Speaker 4: and we'll talk about that. But what were some of

2015
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 4: the other factors that made you want to take on

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Speaker 4: this opportunity at the University of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 15: I think we had some success at at at An Army,

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Speaker 15: but uh uh with that success, you you looking around

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Speaker 15: your your staff and uh and you see that the

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Speaker 15: staff grow and and uh from a responsibility st standpoint, guys, UH,

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Speaker 15: guys were were were just doing a really good job

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Speaker 15: for you and uh and you thought, you know, what if, uh,

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Speaker 15: if I did go somewhere else and I did start

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Speaker 15: over somewhere else, there's some guys in here that that,

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Speaker 15: uh that could really take care of these kids, you know,

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Speaker 15: next year and uh and they would excel in their

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Speaker 15: uh in in that opportunity. So uh, just looking around

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Speaker 15: the staff, I saw some guys that that I thought, uh,

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Speaker 15: you know, were we're ready for that, uh that opportunity,

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Speaker 15: And this one came open for me here at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 15: So it was just a an easy decision, you know,

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Speaker 15: coming back over here and working with uh uh coach

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Speaker 15: Sadderfield and uh and this this great city, uh outstanding

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Speaker 15: football tradition. I remember uh coach Minor years and years ago, uh,

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Speaker 15: you know, visiting with him, you know often, UH he

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Speaker 15: probably wouldn't remember me, you know today, but uh but

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Speaker 15: just uh I thought he was an outstanding uh football

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Speaker 15: coach and and uh uh you know just uh I've

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Speaker 15: always you know, had a uh I thought that this

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Speaker 15: would be a place that I'd like to come.

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Speaker 4: You've worked with Scott Chadderfield before. What about him made

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Speaker 4: you want to.

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Speaker 15: Work for him again? Everything I think? Uh I think

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Speaker 15: it does a great job with time management. Uh he

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Speaker 15: does a great job of feeling making you feel wanted.

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Speaker 12: You know, we used to do this.

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Speaker 15: Uh it's still on Wednesday nights, you know, the fireside

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Speaker 15: chats and and and go out and have speakers come

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Speaker 15: in and talk to us. That that just sort of

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Speaker 15: helped us in our everyday life. And it just uh

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Speaker 15: helped build the culture of of the staff and the program.

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Speaker 15: And uh so uh I think uh I think coach Sadderfield,

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Speaker 15: I really did a great job with our you know,

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Speaker 15: building our offense. You know when when I was at

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Speaker 15: Appalachian State to where those guys were incredibly explosive and

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Speaker 15: and uh uh I scored a lot of points and

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Speaker 15: did a great job. And yeah, uh it just got

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Speaker 15: a lot of uh I got a lot of confidence

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Speaker 15: in his ability to lead.

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Speaker 4: So what's the acclimation process like when you get the job?

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Speaker 4: When you got it because you came here relatively speaking,

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Speaker 4: sort of.

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Speaker 2: Late, you know, in in mid January after.

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Speaker 4: The bowl season, and then in this era of the

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Speaker 4: transfer portal and players coming in, there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: So walk me through the acclamation process. When you're a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator coming to a new school.

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Speaker 15: The first thing has got to be culture. The first

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Speaker 15: thing has got to be learning your teammates and uh,

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Speaker 15: and learning you know, not not just the first and

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Speaker 15: last name, but but where they come from and of

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Speaker 15: what they're all about and uh. And then all of

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Speaker 15: a sudden, you know when when you start to feel uh,

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Speaker 15: you know that friendship with uh with the guys, that's

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Speaker 15: that's gonna be something that that that we're really gonna

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Speaker 15: h use throughout the whole.

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Speaker 12: Season and hopefully for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 15: And uh, when guys care about one another, they're gonna

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Speaker 15: play hard for one another, they're gonna take care of

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Speaker 15: one another, and uh, it's gonna be fun at practice

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01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 15: because you know, they like each other. So that, uh,

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Speaker 15: that's the first thing that's got to be the most

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Speaker 15: important thing and then uh, you know next is is

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01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 15: is gonna be?

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Speaker 12: You know, how do you teach fundamentals of the game.

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Speaker 15: I remember one of the greatest NFL coaches ever, you know,

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Speaker 15: I was coaching Lombardi. You know, I thought and and

2088
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 15: and sometimes guys would would just sort of, yeah, not

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Speaker 15: take them seriously because all they were doing were you know,

2090
01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 15: so many calisthenics and and and and all these things.

2091
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 15: And uh, I got to to uh really study him

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Speaker 15: a lot. He was he had he had been an

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Speaker 15: army you know, many many years ago. And uh the

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01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 15: house that he was in was one that that that

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01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 15: I got to stay in while I was there. So

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Speaker 15: I really started going back and looking at all the

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01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 15: things and and and the thing that that came up

2098
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 15: so much was uh in fundamentals and uh and that's

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Speaker 15: something that my previous head coach, uh always wanted to

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Speaker 15: us to coach.

2101
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Speaker 12: And that's something that that.

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Speaker 15: Sometimes coordinators like to dream up all these these wonderful blitzes.

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Speaker 15: But uh, but if if you're not good at at

2104
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Speaker 15: the the the basic principles of of defensive play, then

2105
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 15: there's not any schemes.

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Speaker 12: That you can draw up to where you're gonna win.

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Speaker 15: So uh, culture fundamentals and then uh, you want to

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Speaker 15: get in to the evaluation process and give guys opportunities

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01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 15: to show you what they can what is their skill

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Speaker 15: set and they might be really good at one thing

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Speaker 15: and not so good.

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Speaker 12: At something else.

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Speaker 15: So so again, if you're if you're going straight to

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Speaker 15: scheme and and and so forth, you're probably gonna miss

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Speaker 15: out on some of the better skill sets that guys

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Speaker 15: might have. If you're trying to fit that uh you

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Speaker 15: know that that that square peg in a round hole.

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Speaker 4: So you talk about evaluation and you'll be better equipped

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Speaker 4: to answer this question by mid summer. But you are

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Speaker 4: doing some evaluating. What do you expect for this year's

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Speaker 4: team twenty twenty six? The strength of your defense to

2122
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Speaker 4: be just based on what you know right now.

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Speaker 15: I think that we're going to uh, we're going to

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Speaker 15: get lined up and we're going to come off the

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Speaker 15: come off the ball hard. We're gonna get off blocks somehow.

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Speaker 15: Block destruction is going to be you know, at the

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Speaker 15: at the top and uh, and then we're going to

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Speaker 15: chase the football really well. And if we can chase

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Speaker 15: the football and get get an opportunity to h to

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Speaker 15: knock it loose or get our hands on it. Then

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Speaker 15: the turnovers have been maybe the single greatest indicator of

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Speaker 15: of the winners. And uh and every level of of

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Speaker 15: of play, whether it's a high school, college or or

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Speaker 15: or pro.

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Speaker 12: So, I think those are the things that that we

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Speaker 12: want to be really really good at.

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Speaker 15: We want to be able to match numbers so that

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Speaker 15: we don't get out numbered to one side or the

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Speaker 15: other of the of the the point of attack. Uh,

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Speaker 15: we want to be able to stay on top of

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Speaker 15: uh you know, the deep balls and uh you know,

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Speaker 15: not give up the cheap scores and uh you know,

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Speaker 15: stop the run and uh. If we can do those things,

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Speaker 15: then then we'll give our an offense I think a

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Speaker 15: great opportunity to uh to to win the game.

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Speaker 12: And uh, uh you.

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Speaker 15: From what I've seen, I think uh you know, uh,

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Speaker 15: I think that that that we're gonna have a great

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Speaker 15: group of guys to work with.

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Speaker 4: You're going to implement yours game with coaches that you

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Speaker 4: have some familiarity with.

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Speaker 2: You were talking earlier about Courtney braswell.

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Speaker 4: How much easier does it become when you have people

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Speaker 4: like that who you have a working and personal relationship with.

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Speaker 15: Always always thought that you need somebody else to uh

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01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 15: to be with you, that that that understands your scheme

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Speaker 15: because teaching at every level will take sometimes takes a

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Speaker 15: little bit a little bit longer than than the time

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Speaker 15: that you have. And uh, I think coach Braswell is

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Speaker 15: is somebody that that understands you know, you know, the

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Speaker 15: type of defense that that I've been teaching for for

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Speaker 15: a long time.

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Speaker 12: He's a great communicator.

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Speaker 15: Uh, he's outstanding football coach, incredibly bright and uh you know, uh,

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Speaker 15: he's a he's a tremendous help. You know that I'll

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Speaker 15: lean on him, you know, quite quite often. But he's

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Speaker 15: he's not the only one, you know. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 15: like I said, Robert Nunn is a guy that that

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Speaker 15: coached nineteen years in the in the NFL. He's got

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Speaker 15: tremendous experiences. He's got a Super Bowl ring. You know,

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Speaker 15: he's he's coached some of the best uh, you know,

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Speaker 15: pass rushers ever. You know, he worked with one of

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Speaker 15: the guys that that that I learned an awful lot

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Speaker 15: of of of what we do. Kevin Green, you know,

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Speaker 15: worked worked with him for for a while. Kevin Green

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Speaker 15: was was an outside linebacker for for the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 15: when I met him, and uh an awful lot of

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Speaker 15: of of what we do defensively. Yeh, I may have

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Speaker 15: learned from from some of that that group you know

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Speaker 15: from uh from back in those years with the Panthers

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Speaker 15: Sam Mills and uh Dom Capers was was the head coach.

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Speaker 12: So it was uh uh uh you know.

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Speaker 15: A three four flavor you know from the Steelers that

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Speaker 15: that was on that that Panthers team. And uh you

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Speaker 15: know again I think uh, I think Robert coach none

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Speaker 15: does uh uh can can help tremendously and and and

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Speaker 15: uh helping them.

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Speaker 12: Uh. You know that teaching curve.

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Speaker 2: You know spring ball will be here very soon.

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Speaker 4: Do you have you know, a to do list of

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Speaker 4: things that you go, Okay during all of those practices,

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Speaker 4: here are the things we have to get done that

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Speaker 4: will make you feel better about what you're gonna do

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Speaker 4: when you go into fall camp later on.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I gotta get that that TV set up and

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Speaker 15: uh in my house, I gotta keep Yeah. I was

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Speaker 15: trying to get that thing done before the super Bowl.

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Speaker 15: Didn't didn't quite work out. Now, seriously, Uh, that there's

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Speaker 15: a there's a lot of things that that you gotta,

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Speaker 15: you gotta, you gotta adopt the eyes across the t's

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Speaker 15: and get and get done.

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Speaker 12: But uh uh, just.

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Speaker 15: Keep the the big things, you know, keep the big

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Speaker 15: things you know out in front the culture.

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Speaker 12: You know, the the the you.

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Speaker 15: Know the fundamentals, and you know the scheme will will

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Speaker 15: will will come. The evaluation processes is uh. During during springball,

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Speaker 15: they just want to make sure that I give everybody

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Speaker 15: the opportunity to to show me what what they can

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Speaker 15: do and uh uh and then the scheme takes over

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Speaker 15: from there. So uh that's that's that's what I'm looking

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Speaker 15: to do and do a good job of it. And

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Speaker 15: uh there's spend some times where uh maybe once when

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Speaker 15: when I when I moved from from from one place

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Speaker 15: to the other, but I'm not sure that the communicated

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Speaker 15: the right things quickly enough or well enough.

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Speaker 12: And so you learn from the experiences and.

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Speaker 15: Hopefully uh uh you know that that that last move

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Speaker 15: I made from from missig into t Army, you know,

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Speaker 15: we ended up number one in the country and defense.

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Speaker 12: So uh better.

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Speaker 15: Job of involving a lot of the staff and getting

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Speaker 15: them to where they they uh uh. They took a

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Speaker 15: very strong foot forward and and and teaching the things

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Speaker 15: that that they were very good at teaching at.

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Speaker 12: So uh, same thing here. Let's let these guys.

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Speaker 15: You know, do the things that they're really really good

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Speaker 15: at and uh and just sort.

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Speaker 12: Of tie that in.

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Speaker 2: Right there you go.

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Speaker 4: That's the new defensive coordinator at the University of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: Nate Woodie. Nice enough to let me come down and

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Speaker 4: interview him in person yesterday. We are done. Chad Brundle's

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Speaker 4: on the show tomorrow. Maybe you are to have a

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Speaker 4: great night. Thank you for listening. Oh, and the Goldhorn

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Speaker 4: all afternoon long with the US men's hockey team playing

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Speaker 4: in the Olympics against Latvia. Have a great night, Thank

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Speaker 4: you for listening. Thanks to Taran for producing. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: to you tomorrow at three oh five on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 4: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.