Speaker 1: By Billy cunning in the Great America will welcome this
Speaker 1: somewhat intrepid Monday afterning in the tri State as we
Speaker 1: get ready for the storm tonight and tomorrow. But until then,
Speaker 1: the Vivek Ramaswami is running for the governorship of the
Speaker 1: Great State of Ohio as a Republican. I still can't
Speaker 1: believe that Amy Acting is going to be the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 1: They got to be kidding me. But Vivek is in
Speaker 1: town for a Turning Point USA event which I think
Speaker 1: is open to the public of the University of Cincinnati tonight.
Speaker 1: Viveke Ramaswami, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
Speaker 1: first of all, do you really believe that the Democrats
Speaker 1: are going to put up Amy Acting against you? I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't that a stalking horse for someone else? She cannot
Speaker 1: be serious.
Speaker 2: Well, look, it's their choice, it's their party, and they
Speaker 2: can put.
Speaker 3: Up their nominee.
Speaker 2: As you well know, she led the COVID lockdowns, including
Speaker 2: leading our state to being the first state in the country,
Speaker 2: Billy to shut down the public schools. And what I
Speaker 2: think is she owes those kids in apology, those two kids,
Speaker 2: those two years of kids in Cincinnati public schools will
Speaker 2: never get those years back. Shows am an apology, but
Speaker 2: that's up to them. I'm focus on the positives. We're
Speaker 2: running to lead this state to new heights, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Excited, Billy.
Speaker 2: We're doing well on a lot of metrics of the state,
Speaker 2: including the Bengals.
Speaker 3: This weekend, if I may say, including Ohio State. We
Speaker 3: had a good football weekend over Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: But we want to win off the football field as well,
Speaker 2: and that's where I'm going to lead us.
Speaker 1: I would like to thank Shared Brown who said he's
Speaker 1: going to run for the Senate, or maybe Tim Ryan
Speaker 1: who said he's not going to run at all, or
Speaker 1: somebody but Amy act and that'd be embarrassing, but that's
Speaker 1: not your concern. Secondly, when you bring up education, you
Speaker 1: had an idea about year round schooling, which may not
Speaker 1: be real popular with the parents or the teachers or
Speaker 1: the school board.
Speaker 4: Number one, is that true?
Speaker 1: Number two? How would you find it? Number three? How
Speaker 1: would it work? Year round schooling?
Speaker 2: Well, it's not a policy proposal, Billy, but it is
Speaker 2: an idea that's come up from a lot of parents.
Speaker 3: And one of the things I'm doing is I'm traveling.
Speaker 2: Across the state, talking to people who have kids in
Speaker 2: public schools and private schools, charter schools, and homeschools, and
Speaker 2: we're listening, and I'm even going into the inner city
Speaker 2: places where traditional Republicans may have historically shied away from.
Speaker 2: And one of the things we hear from those parents
Speaker 2: and also the teachers in those communities is especially poorer
Speaker 2: students when they show up in those poor school districts
Speaker 2: after summer break, they've fallen behind because they're not engaged
Speaker 2: over the summer. And so I just think we've got
Speaker 2: to be thinking open mindedly of how we're going to
Speaker 2: list up education for everybody, because the academic outcomes at.
Speaker 3: This point really are unacceptable.
Speaker 2: You think about how many young students are not proficient
Speaker 2: in math in eighth grade. You think about the high
Speaker 2: school graduation requirements they've fallen so much. And by the way,
Speaker 2: many parents don't necessarily have the ability or even the
Speaker 2: knowledge of how to take that on at home either.
Speaker 3: So education starts with the family.
Speaker 2: But I want to bring some standards back to our
Speaker 2: public schools, and we're keeping an open mind on how
Speaker 2: we do that across the board. Third grade literacy that's
Speaker 2: a basic requirement reading guarantee by the end of third grade.
Speaker 2: I want one hundred percent of third graders in.
Speaker 3: Ohio to be able to read.
Speaker 2: That puts those kids on a better trajectory for the
Speaker 2: long run. And I say this as a Republican. I
Speaker 2: want people to hear me loud and clear. It's not
Speaker 2: just to lift up the people who agree with me.
Speaker 3: It's not just to lift up the Republicans in the state.
Speaker 3: It's to lift up.
Speaker 2: Everyone in this state, including those inner city kids who
Speaker 2: have been left behind by the Democrats that they've historically
Speaker 2: their parents.
Speaker 3: Have voted for.
Speaker 2: I think there's a better way, and that's what we're
Speaker 2: offering them in every domain, including education.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't know if you saw the
Speaker 1: results from the inquiry. They said that about seventy one
Speaker 1: percent of black boys are chronically absent from school. Overall
Speaker 1: is forty five percent, and Cincinnati public schools don't attend.
Speaker 1: You went to saying ex lived in Springfield Township for
Speaker 1: a while, forty five percent are chronically absent in the
Speaker 1: public school system. Seventy one percent of black boys are
Speaker 1: chronically absent. The great majority of those who graduate cannot
Speaker 1: read their diploma. And so I've been around the block
Speaker 1: a few times. In every governor the last thirty or
Speaker 1: forty years have said we got to improve that, we
Speaker 1: got to improve that. And I know Bush forty three
Speaker 1: came out with a guarantee to read by the fourth grade. Heck,
Speaker 1: we have kids who can't read by the time they're
Speaker 1: seniors in high school. And so this is a monster
Speaker 1: is undertaking.
Speaker 2: Man, this is serious, and this is something a governor
Speaker 2: can actually deliver. All Right, education should not be federalized.
Speaker 2: This is not a job for the US president. This
Speaker 2: is a job for a good governor. And that's part
Speaker 2: of why I'm in this. You think about the Democrats,
Speaker 2: they have perpetuated the very policies that create that inequality.
Speaker 2: But think about Cincinnati, right, So I went to public
Speaker 2: schools actually in Cincinnati three eighth grade, and then I
Speaker 2: went to Saint X for high school. Cincinnati public schools
Speaker 2: were shut down for over a year and a half
Speaker 2: during COVID. Well Saint X my alma mater, was closed
Speaker 2: for just five days. So now those sin Democrats, including
Speaker 2: Amy Act and my opponent, complain about that educational inequality, Well,
Speaker 2: their policies are the ones that actually created that inequality.
Speaker 2: And then the irony is they have absolutely zero policy
Speaker 2: vision for how to fix it. And when a guy
Speaker 2: like me is proposing new ideas that are out of
Speaker 2: the box, like the third grade reading guarantee, like other
Speaker 2: ideas that we're hearing from parents across the state, they
Speaker 2: complain about it, but they don't have an actual solution
Speaker 2: of their own. So it's up to us now as
Speaker 2: Republicans that's just to complain about Democrats, but more importantly,
Speaker 2: to lead with actual affirmative solutions of our own. And
Speaker 2: I'm confident that if we start at a young age,
Speaker 2: we're going to create economic opportunity for those kids.
Speaker 3: For some of those kids'.
Speaker 2: College education may not be the right path, that's okay.
Speaker 2: Let's bring skills based, trade based training into high school.
Speaker 2: Earn while you learn, programs indicate through twelve education so
Speaker 2: those kids can live with dignity without for your college
Speaker 2: debt after they graduate from high school as well. That's realistic,
Speaker 2: it's actually achievable, and by the way, we can do
Speaker 2: it while bringing down property taxes. Is the other thing
Speaker 2: the left complains about in my campaign is they say,
Speaker 2: how can they Cramosami bring down property taxes while also
Speaker 2: improving the quality of education.
Speaker 3: And I say the answer is, you're dark right.
Speaker 2: We can do both because part of the problem is
Speaker 2: we're ineffectively spending that money.
Speaker 3: So if we bring down property.
Speaker 2: Taxes by making government more efficient but also brings standards
Speaker 2: back to the public schools at the same time, we're
Speaker 2: actually going to be able to achieve more while taxing
Speaker 2: people less. And that's the way I think we take
Speaker 2: our state to the next level.
Speaker 1: And during COVID, this wasn't the Dark Age as I
Speaker 1: recall it specifically. In fact, I was the des United
Speaker 1: survivor that would live under a pod at the transmitter.
Speaker 1: By the Trump administration in twenty twenty, which is another issue,
Speaker 1: but the great majority of public schools in the Cincinni
Speaker 1: area were open. Only CPS and others were closed because
Speaker 1: I know Dr Park Schools schools in northern Kentucky, Indiana,
Speaker 1: they were largely open after the first week or two
Speaker 1: and they did remote learning, but they kept it going
Speaker 1: with CPS shut down. Now, on the issue of making
Speaker 1: government efficient, one of your cohorts if you are elected
Speaker 1: and if you can't beat Amy acting, I'd be in
Speaker 1: a state of shock and disbelief.
Speaker 5: I could.
Speaker 1: She's not going to be the nominee. They're tricking us
Speaker 1: with her. But at some point you're going to head
Speaker 1: up state government. Tim Waltz, your friend from Minnesota has
Speaker 1: a one point one billion dollar massive fraud in which
Speaker 1: largely immigrants from Africa, et cetera. Somali's have ripped off
Speaker 1: the system with welfare and food stamps and sectioned in
Speaker 1: housing vouchers and medicaid and autistics support, etc. And sent
Speaker 1: the money to war lords in Somalia. Can you guarantee
Speaker 1: that won't happen here?
Speaker 4: That's got me fired up just thinking about our tax
Speaker 4: dollars doing that kind of crap.
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you won't happen here, And I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think Kim wall is going to call me
Speaker 2: a friend of his, because we're going to set an
Speaker 2: example of what good governance looks like. If Minnesota and
Speaker 2: California headed one model, Ohio is leading the way in
Speaker 2: what actual meritocracy looks like, actual stewardship of taxpayer dollars
Speaker 2: looks like.
Speaker 3: The reason property.
Speaker 2: Taxes are so high in the state is not because
Speaker 2: the government is delivering high ROI services with every one
Speaker 2: of those dollars. It's because a lot of those dollars
Speaker 2: aren't optimally used. And you look at those case studies
Speaker 2: of what's happening in Minnesota, Let's take that as a
Speaker 2: case study for what we want.
Speaker 3: To get right here in Ohio.
Speaker 2: And I want to be clear, We're already doing so
Speaker 2: much better than Minnesota. We're already arguably the best in
Speaker 2: the Midwest in many metrics. I want us to be
Speaker 2: the top state in the country, though, Bill, that's not
Speaker 2: good enough to be the best in the Midwest. I
Speaker 2: want Ohio to set the example that Texas and Florida
Speaker 2: can follow, rather than the other way around.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm in this West.
Speaker 1: Virginia had two National guardsmen shot the murderer from the
Speaker 1: state of Washington, sought out I would think a female,
Speaker 1: and shot her in the back of the head like
Speaker 1: a yellow belly coward, then stood over and shot her again.
Speaker 1: And I talked to Governor Mike DeWine a few days
Speaker 1: ago on the air about Ohio National guardsmen in Washington, DC,
Speaker 1: and has extended they're run there till the end of January.
Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with that.
Speaker 3: No, I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2: But to the contrary, I do have a problem with
Speaker 2: rampant violence in the cities across this country and the
Speaker 2: normalization of the culture of violence, and that has to end.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we are a people
Speaker 2: who are united by peace. You should be able to
Speaker 2: walk around in the city of Cincinnati or Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: Without fear of looking over your shoulder for figging assaulted
Speaker 2: or mud. President Trump has cleaned up Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: Which is, by the way, the constitutional prerogative of the
Speaker 2: President of the United States. But to see a National guardsman,
Speaker 2: two of them shot on Thanksgiving week is heinous. It's unconscionable,
Speaker 2: it's Unamerican, and our hearts go out to that family,
Speaker 2: both those families. They're in our neighboring state of West Virginia.
Speaker 2: I thought Governor Patrick morrisy did a good job of
Speaker 2: at least leading and offering the kind words that the
Speaker 2: nation needed to hear. But now we need actions that
Speaker 2: speak louder than words. We need accountability to make sure
Speaker 2: that this kind of culture sure of violence ends in
Speaker 2: the cities across our country. And that's part of the
Speaker 2: attitude I want to bring to Ohio where violent crime
Speaker 2: is up in many of our cities. We're a state
Speaker 2: of great cities, and yet we need to empower our
Speaker 2: police to be able to do their jobs while.
Speaker 3: Also making sure that these.
Speaker 2: Criminals, repeat violent offenders are not getting out on no
Speaker 2: to minimal bail, which is what's happening today. So those
Speaker 2: are common sense reforms that eighty ninety percent of Ohioans
Speaker 2: agree on.
Speaker 5: Bill.
Speaker 2: It's not too much to ask that you should be
Speaker 2: able to go for a walk on Vine Street or
Speaker 2: in over the Rhine in Cincinnati without fear of getting
Speaker 2: mugged or assaulted. And yet this is where our national
Speaker 2: culture is headed. And I want Ohio to be that
Speaker 2: shining city on a hill. So we're talking about the
Speaker 2: City of Seven Hills. Let's be the shining city on
Speaker 2: a hill for the rest of the country to look
Speaker 2: up to. And I think these are common sense reforms
Speaker 2: We're going to be able to deliver when I'm governor.
Speaker 2: The state dollars aren't just going to automatically flow to
Speaker 2: cities without accountability. Those dollars come with strings attached. Those
Speaker 2: includes standards, standards for our public schools, standards for public safety.
Speaker 2: This is what Ohioans want and it's what I'm going
Speaker 2: to deliver.
Speaker 1: The Privy Bar, I'm not sure you've ever been there.
Speaker 1: It's fifteenth in elm an otr has had seven people
Speaker 1: shot in the month of November. Seven people wounded outside
Speaker 1: the Privy Bar. They've had eighty two police runs outside
Speaker 1: the Privy Bar, and because of the activities of city council,
Speaker 1: they've not shut it down. And the reason is racial reasons.
Speaker 1: The African American Chamber of Commerce have meetings there. Other
Speaker 1: black groups get together at the Privy Bar. But after
Speaker 1: ten o'clock at night, all hell breaks lose. It looks
Speaker 1: like gun smoke with Miss Kitty and the Long Branch,
Speaker 1: and there's gun fire constantly and the city I went
Speaker 1: there Saturday afternoon, not at night, with my wife, the
Speaker 1: people's judge, and we sat there. Now there's three police
Speaker 1: cars out in front of the Privy Bar. I think
Speaker 1: there's better use for those three police cars and simply
Speaker 1: sitting in front of a bar at three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, So we talk about crime. Vivek Ramaswami the
Speaker 1: three Great American cities Los Angeles, Chicago, New York are
Speaker 1: in complete collapse. And I worry about downtown Cincinnati, Columbus
Speaker 1: and Cleveland. The Cleveland Browns are leaving downtown Cleveland out
Speaker 1: to the suburbs, and three or four other American cities
Speaker 1: are like dying because of crime and lack of business investment.
Speaker 4: As the governor, what can you do to.
Speaker 1: Revitalize the major cities in Ohio control by the Democratic Party?
Speaker 1: And whatever you say, they're going to oppose whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do. You might not want to do it
Speaker 1: because it's the wrong approach. Can we be a great
Speaker 1: state when our cities are in collapse? You can't send
Speaker 1: your kid to the public schools and the Privy bar
Speaker 1: has shootouts almost every night? How does that work? How
Speaker 1: can you be the governor of a great state with
Speaker 1: great cities when the cities and the education is in
Speaker 1: complete collapse?
Speaker 4: How do you do that? For Bake?
Speaker 3: We got to turn it around. Yeah, that's the answer.
Speaker 3: We got to turn it around with actual strong leadership.
Speaker 2: That's the only option we have. And you know what,
Speaker 2: we are a state of great cities. You look at
Speaker 2: other Peter states like Georgia, they've got one great city
Speaker 2: like Atlanta, We've got Cincinnati, Dayton, Toledo, Cleveland, Columbus, Youngstown, Akron.
Speaker 2: This is one of Ohio's great strength, and yet we're
Speaker 2: squandering it because of urban crime. Now, as I said,
Speaker 2: we're doing better than states like Minnesota. I'm proud we're
Speaker 2: headed in the right direction in so many metrics, but
Speaker 2: urban crime is one of those areas where within six
Speaker 2: months of me getting into office, we're going to have results.
Speaker 3: People are going to feel safe walking around in their city.
Speaker 2: People are going to safe opening their businesses in the city,
Speaker 2: which is an economic development opportunity as well. What do
Speaker 2: you do you think about I don't believe the police officers.
Speaker 2: I haven't met many of those police officers, including the
Speaker 2: men and women blue in Cincinnati. They're doing their jobs
Speaker 2: and their best, but we're not tracting as many people
Speaker 2: as we need to right profession we need to also
Speaker 2: make sure that they're empowered to do their job. This
Speaker 2: attempt to strip them from qualified immunity, I think is
Speaker 2: a mistake, and that's part of why we see a
Speaker 2: recruiting failure on the front end, and then you have
Speaker 2: the judges on the back end.
Speaker 3: A lot of these activist judges that.
Speaker 2: Are completely deviating from guidelines where you have repeat offenders
Speaker 2: on a repeated basis, committing violent crimes sent right back
Speaker 2: out on the street on minimal to no bail to
Speaker 2: go out and do it again. So our police officers
Speaker 2: actually doing I think broadly, they're heroes, they're mental women
Speaker 2: doing a great job. But the system isn't working the
Speaker 2: way that it needs to to bring that level of
Speaker 2: crime down. And you talk about racial dimension, I'll say
Speaker 2: a racial dimension. It's mostly black deaths that we're talking
Speaker 2: about that go ignored. So this isn't about black versus white.
Speaker 2: This is about right versus wrong. And I believe that
Speaker 2: for many of those inner city African Americans, they're going
Speaker 2: to be far, far, far better off. I think all
Speaker 2: of them are going to be better off when I'm
Speaker 2: the governor of this state, rather than what I think
Speaker 2: would be a nightmare a disaster.
Speaker 3: The woman who had no.
Speaker 2: Compunction about shutting down our entire economy in our public schools.
Speaker 2: By the way, the shutdown of those public schools led
Speaker 2: to conic aps andeism, that connic aaps and teiasm now
Speaker 2: leads to chronic violence. That's the woman who I'm running against.
Speaker 2: That's amy acting, and so I could think of no
Speaker 2: greater disaster to send our state in the direction of
Speaker 2: Tim Wallas's Minnesota, or worse, if she came anywhere near
Speaker 2: the levers of power again.
Speaker 3: But we're not going to let that happen.
Speaker 2: And it's why I want to I want conservatives and
Speaker 2: really independence and anybody who loves this state to hear
Speaker 2: this loud and clear.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six. We can't take it for granted.
Speaker 2: Complacency is not an option, and so we need to
Speaker 2: get on the ground today to make sure we're in
Speaker 2: a position not just to talk, but to lead with action.
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm in this, and frankly, that's why
Speaker 2: we're counting on everybody to really show up next year,
Speaker 2: to show up in the meantime with our with grassroots organizations,
Speaker 2: with getting people registered to vote, to even convert and
Speaker 2: open minds in the inner city that has historically gone
Speaker 2: Democrat that have been failed by those failed left wing policies.
Speaker 2: There's a better way forward, and that's why I'm in this,
Speaker 2: and I'm confident we're going to deliver, not just for Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: but for great cities across the state.
Speaker 4: About minute remaining.
Speaker 1: And I still don't believe Amy Acton and she's kind
Speaker 1: of a joke. I can't believe they're going to pull
Speaker 1: this one on us. They'll switch her out at some point.
Speaker 1: But turning point USA tonight, the messenger was murdered in
Speaker 1: cold blood. Does the message remain with your friend that
Speaker 1: the man who really Charlie Kirk, that was more responsible
Speaker 1: for Trump's victory in twenty four than anyone else. I
Speaker 1: think Charlie Kirk Erica were fabulous. Does the message remain
Speaker 1: without the messenger?
Speaker 3: It has to?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I believe whatever is necessary is possible. My friend,
Speaker 2: so Charlie, I saw him two weeks before he was
Speaker 2: killed here in Ohio. Actually we sat one on one.
Speaker 2: We had a conversation where he asked me to continue
Speaker 2: doing these things and he always did that, and I
Speaker 2: didn't really take it any more seriously.
Speaker 3: But in retrospect, that was the last time I saw them.
Speaker 2: So I'm keeping my word to do our part to
Speaker 2: reach those young people, to keep them energized, to give
Speaker 2: them the permission to speak freely and think independently. And
Speaker 2: it's not about right versus left, it's about actually just
Speaker 2: learning in this case from hearing opposing views on a
Speaker 2: college campus. Something as recently as three or four years
Speaker 2: ago wasn't happening. Now we're seeing that revival amongst young people.
Speaker 2: I think it's positive, and frankly, I want to see
Speaker 2: more of those young people think independently because it's going
Speaker 2: to make our country united in the next generation. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants this artificial politics of division that comes from the
Speaker 2: culture of censorship. And so what we're doing tonight is
Speaker 2: I'm going to give a few remarks that you see,
Speaker 2: but we're also just going to open it up for
Speaker 2: a lot of those young people to be able to
Speaker 2: ask the questions that are on their mind.
Speaker 3: Some of them may.
Speaker 2: Disagree with me from the left, maybe even some other
Speaker 2: from even some aspects.
Speaker 3: Of the right. I don't care what it is.
Speaker 2: We're going to have an open conversation, do it in
Speaker 2: a civil way, and that's part of the culture I
Speaker 2: want to bring back to our state. That was the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati that I grew up in through the late eighties,
Speaker 2: through the early nineties and early two thousands. Billy, I remember,
Speaker 2: that was the Ohio that we knew, and I want
Speaker 2: to bring that back to our state. And you know,
Speaker 2: we're doing a small part tonight in Cincinnati, U see,
Speaker 2: and then we're going to Miami University later in the week.
Speaker 3: And that's the way we lead.
Speaker 4: Well, take the best and make it better.
Speaker 1: Viveke Ramaswami, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show
Speaker 1: and give my best to all your folks.
Speaker 4: Your website is.
Speaker 3: It is Vivic for Ohio dot com.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you Forveke. Good luck to you, God
Speaker 4: bless you. Let's continue with me.
Speaker 1: And of course, despite the protestations of a veg Ramaswami,
Speaker 1: Amy Acton will not be the Democratic nominee. Even Democrats
Speaker 1: are not that stupid. News Next, that's your home of
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Speaker 4: Wow. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Another afternoon of broadcast suprevity and coming up after one
Speaker 1: o'clock will be the Great Moegger. Not just about the
Speaker 1: Bengals and the Bearcats and the Crosstown shootout. We have
Speaker 1: Andy Mack in the studio and won thirty five today
Speaker 1: to talk about the Crosstown shootout. This weekend going to
Speaker 1: be wonderful. It looked as if there would be a
Speaker 1: walkover for uc Now looks like it might be a
Speaker 1: walkover for Xavier. We'll see what happens. Plus later on
Speaker 1: we have Steve Gooden, and as you may know, he
Speaker 1: lives in Cincinnati, ran for council, but in his real
Speaker 1: life he's an attorney and spent time in the Judge
Speaker 1: Advocates Corps and spent time at teaching classes on the
Speaker 1: Geneva Convention to lawyers in the military, so that guy
Speaker 1: knows where the bodies are buried. The media is all
Speaker 1: in turmoil now about what happens to some small fishing
Speaker 1: boats off the Venezuelan coast that allegedly we're carrying cocaine
Speaker 1: and drugs that were blown up. And it appears, according
Speaker 1: to a media account denied by the way by Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and by Pete Heseth, Secretary of War, that there
Speaker 1: were some survivors on a raft connected to the drug
Speaker 1: boat that hex Seth ordered to be executed. Other countries
Speaker 1: do that, but we do not. If assuming they're not
Speaker 1: enemy combatants, assuming they're not able to return fire or whatever,
Speaker 1: then they're like prisoners of whatever, prisoners of war, or
Speaker 1: we don't kill even enemy combatants if they if they
Speaker 1: surrender and cannot defend themselves. Other countries do that all
Speaker 1: the time, but not the United States of America. So
Speaker 1: both have denied it, and Republicans and Democrats are united
Speaker 1: in the idea that we don't kill enemy combatants who
Speaker 1: are surrendering are not able to resist. We don't shoot
Speaker 1: people in the back of the head. We don't do that.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens down the road on that.
Speaker 1: This is a long line of Democrats in the mainstream
Speaker 1: media trying to hook something around Trump's neck, whether it's
Speaker 1: the Russia gate, or the Hunter and Biden laptop, or
Speaker 1: Arctic US, whatever it might be. It's always looking for
Speaker 1: some angle, some angle to make Donald Trump look like
Speaker 1: a criminal and worse and courting the Senator Kelly and others.
Speaker 1: He were among those who said that war crimes have
Speaker 1: been committed and that you should say no to the
Speaker 1: military to an unlawful order. As an order is given,
Speaker 1: you normally don't have a lot of time to reflect upon.
Speaker 1: The order is simply you react and do it. If
Speaker 1: you can't do it, I guess you could be a
Speaker 1: conscientious objector, or you could say, look I'm not going
Speaker 1: to follow that order. But then your court martial for
Speaker 1: not following the order.
Speaker 4: And so what this.
Speaker 1: Means is that someone operating and F sixteen or whatever
Speaker 1: might be called upon to fire upon drug boats determined
Speaker 1: by the CIA and by all kinds of surveillance regimes.
Speaker 1: The idea that boat is filled with cocaine, those involved
Speaker 1: are poisoning the American people, Let's take them out, which
Speaker 1: is something about seventy five percent of the American people say,
Speaker 1: let's do that. That's a good idea, yea. And whether
Speaker 1: there're survivors or not. Pete Hexseth denies it. Trump denies it.
Speaker 1: There's going to be hearings in a way we go
Speaker 1: and once again the Democratic narrative about Pete Hecseth, which
Speaker 1: by the way, he denies the Washington Post story that
Speaker 1: two anonymous sources say that his instructions were to kill
Speaker 1: all the drug dealers in some unspecified in legal manner.
Speaker 1: And they have to put aside for a moment the
Speaker 1: illegal and the good. It's good to kill drug dealers
Speaker 1: that are hauling poison to our shores, that kill one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand Americans every year. But this is a hearsay
Speaker 1: claim of a couple individuals. We don't have the courage
Speaker 1: to identify themselves. They won't come out and say, yes,
Speaker 1: I know this happened. This is my name, I work
Speaker 1: in the Secretary of War's office. This is what we did.
Speaker 1: And the regime media and the Democratic complex instantly accepted
Speaker 1: as truthful the anonymous slanders as gospel truth. They said, absolutely,
Speaker 1: that fits what Pete heck' sa eth or Donald Trump
Speaker 1: or Jade Vance would do. And anonymous claims from anonymous
Speaker 1: sources are the best claims because you can't defend against them.
Speaker 1: So the media loves that, which is exactly what the
Speaker 1: media and what the Democratic Party wants. Is our part
Speaker 1: of the okie doke that they play on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens down the road. If someone
Speaker 1: fired upon combatants unable to defend themselves and killed them,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. And Pete Heck says said he didn't
Speaker 1: order it. Did some naval aviator do it?
Speaker 4: We don't know.
Speaker 1: But now the country is going to be twisting the
Speaker 1: pretzel like conditions because of concern for the lives of
Speaker 1: cocaine drug dealers somewhere floating in the Caribbean. It's amazing
Speaker 1: to me how the media and the Democratic Party are
Speaker 1: exactly on the same page. They march in lockstep, and
Speaker 1: the key component of the scams is out. One of
Speaker 1: the sources said, that's what happened. So that's one thing. Secondly,
Speaker 1: I think most American families might include it. Likely yours
Speaker 1: has been touched by mental illness to one degree or another.
Speaker 1: It is a special burden that many parents carry and
Speaker 1: many considered a blessing to have an autistic child. And
Speaker 1: from the day they're born until the day they die,
Speaker 1: you love them with all your heart. And the circumstances
Speaker 1: of autism, the causes of it, it might be tailand
Speaker 1: all talan All denies it. I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: confronted with the issue. If I if I ever get pregnant,
Speaker 1: I'll get into the issue and determine what I should do.
Speaker 1: Take Talano or not? Does it cause more autism than not?
Speaker 1: Used to be one in about fifteen hundred babies Aid autism.
Speaker 1: Now it's down to one and twenty nine. So something's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 1: I stand with the president on policy. Can I say enough? Drew,
Speaker 1: my producer jujour policy policy policy. I support the policies
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump and the policies of jade Vans. The
Speaker 1: policies are a matter, not the words around the policies.
Speaker 1: So it came out over the last couple of days
Speaker 1: and again last night on Air Force One in which
Speaker 1: the President flew from Palm Beach back to Washington, whether
Speaker 1: or not it was proper for the President to use
Speaker 1: the R word, and I'll put it in parentheses. Retarded.
Speaker 1: Put that in parentheses. It's a word I do not
Speaker 1: use in my personal life. And he said that Tim
Speaker 1: Waltz was quote retarded quote unquote because of giving billions
Speaker 1: of dollars to Somali's that somehow the billions of dollars
Speaker 1: make their way to Somaliland that are being used one
Speaker 1: way or another to ferment revolution and terrorism in Somalia.
Speaker 1: There's about one hundred thousand Somalians. That our words should
Speaker 1: be out of the American dictionary. It should not be
Speaker 1: used and polite company to describe anybody because it demeans
Speaker 1: the person identifies that child as somehow part of the other.
Speaker 1: And I've had mental illness in my family. I think
Speaker 1: every family directly or in directly has been affected by it,
Speaker 1: and I have the President of the United States use
Speaker 1: the R word to describe Governor Tim Waltz handing out
Speaker 1: billions of dollars in Somali's I think is disgusting.
Speaker 4: So he was asked last night.
Speaker 1: And whether or not he wanted to revise and extend
Speaker 1: his remarks and that Donald Trump said no. Essentially, he
Speaker 1: said last night, yeah, I think something's wrong with him.
Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with that. The reporter said, well, sir,
Speaker 1: it's the use of the I don't want to use
Speaker 1: that word again, the use of the R word to
Speaker 1: describe Governor Tim Walls. And then he got on the
Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars. Maybe it's an age thing.
Speaker 1: I's almost eighty years old.
Speaker 4: I get that.
Speaker 1: But you can't teach an old dog new tricks. There
Speaker 1: are word is not a word I've used in my
Speaker 1: private life, personal life.
Speaker 4: I don't do that.
Speaker 1: It demeans and for those moms and dads who love
Speaker 1: deeply their children and work to make sure that their
Speaker 1: kid have all the opportunities available to other kids. The
Speaker 1: best of America is reflected when we take kids with
Speaker 1: special needs and do everything in our power to give
Speaker 1: them the best life that they can. So when the
Speaker 1: President uses the R word or says other things, calling
Speaker 1: a reporter piggy because she was somewhat overweight, to demean
Speaker 1: and put someone down and that way, it's again off track.
Speaker 1: And what it does is cause individuals who would otherwise
Speaker 1: support the president's policies. Can I say the policy is
Speaker 1: what I support? Can I say policy more often I'm
Speaker 1: saying policy and stay out of the personal insults, because,
Speaker 1: for example, in the state of Indiana, they're going through
Speaker 1: the woes of whether or not to Jerry Manner out
Speaker 1: one more Democratic seat, and one of the key members
Speaker 1: of the Indiana States Senate has a child who has autism,
Speaker 1: and he got so mad at the president and he
Speaker 1: voted for him, supported him, raised money for him, and
Speaker 1: donated money to Trump that he says, I'm done working
Speaker 1: with the guy.
Speaker 4: I'm done.
Speaker 1: We're not going to have reapportionment in the state of Indiana.
Speaker 1: And he may want to reconsider that and say a
Speaker 1: prayer that Donald Trump quits using that kind of foul
Speaker 1: language described generally innocent, innocent boys and girls who need help.
Speaker 1: They don't need to be called names by the president
Speaker 1: of the United States.
Speaker 4: Can I say that anymore clearly?
Speaker 1: Can I say I support the policy, the policy and
Speaker 1: the policy. But to call a female reporter mims piggy,
Speaker 1: or to say that a governor is using the R
Speaker 1: word to describe his policy difference. That means the office
Speaker 1: of the presidency, and it separates from Donald Trump his supporters.
Speaker 1: I've had more than one attorney get a hold of me,
Speaker 1: friends of mine who have autistic kids that are so
Speaker 1: mad they can't see straight, And I get it.
Speaker 4: It's wrong. He shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: When given an opportunity last night on Air Force one
Speaker 1: flying back to DC, the President was given that opportunity
Speaker 1: to say, well, you know, I disagree with the policy,
Speaker 1: but my use of that word was wrong, and I apologize.
Speaker 1: And I can't read exactly what the President said because
Speaker 1: he again use the R word to describe Governor Tim Waltz,
Speaker 1: who's clearly not autistic and clearly not he's got a
Speaker 1: terrible mind when it comes to politics. But to demean
Speaker 1: him in such a way to me is a bad idea.
Speaker 1: It's wrong. So I would hope that those close to
Speaker 1: the president would saddle up next to him and say,
Speaker 1: mister President, stay on the policies and get rid of
Speaker 1: the personal insults because it is separating you from your
Speaker 1: own supporters. Made myself clear on that policy policy. What
Speaker 1: is the policy? To call someone the R word? To
Speaker 1: me is disgusting and it's wrong. And I hope the
Speaker 1: President will revise and extend his remarks and never ever
Speaker 1: ever use it again and get on with the policies,
Speaker 1: different disagreements, without the insults that demeans the office and
Speaker 1: separates his supporters from him.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Huh so, I hope that's the case. Thirdly, we have
Speaker 1: the issue which is coming up with MOE of year
Speaker 1: round school. You just heard the governor to be vivek Ramaswami,
Speaker 1: and I continue to believe there's no way the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party me so stupid as to put up Amy acting.
Speaker 1: If she was a new character on the political scene,
Speaker 1: you could say, okay, who is Amy acting? Well, damn it,
Speaker 1: we know exactly who Amy acting is. She was the
Speaker 1: one that shut down the schools. She had a procedures
Speaker 1: ready to go that would shut down interstate and state highways,
Speaker 1: shut down the businesses, but keep open the strip clubs,
Speaker 1: the liquor joints, but shut down so many other businesses.
Speaker 4: She was the grand architect.
Speaker 1: Of the closing of our schools and the closing of
Speaker 1: our society. Held those stupid news conferences in which she
Speaker 1: put her arms around ohioans. And if that's the case,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is in more trouble than I think.
Speaker 1: There ought to be someone to confront for veg Ramaswami
Speaker 1: on some of his ideas, and he's got more ideas
Speaker 1: than you can count. One bad idea I think is
Speaker 1: year round schooling. And some of the best times in
Speaker 1: my life was raising my son and coaching his teams,
Speaker 1: basketball and baseball teams, interacting with all of his friends, sleepovers,
Speaker 1: taking off ten or eleven weeks in the summertime when
Speaker 1: it's June, July and August it's about ninety five degrees,
Speaker 1: and let a kid be a kid, get out there.
Speaker 1: I guess the excuse is so many school districts are
Speaker 1: bad when it comes to academic performance. So if some
Speaker 1: kid at Tapped High School can't read, and it's a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old, that means that you at Mason High
Speaker 1: School are going to have to have your kid and
Speaker 1: school year round. It doesn't work. That way in the
Speaker 1: Sinse summer school used to be for those failing classes.
Speaker 1: Now some say, and there's one of two states that
Speaker 1: are going to implement it year round school in which
Speaker 1: part time, maybe in mornings, you're in school, to take
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks off and then get back to school.
Speaker 4: I think it's stupid.
Speaker 1: They have school opening around August the twentieth, and that
Speaker 1: should be Tuesday Wednesday after Labor Day. Things are a
Speaker 1: little bit cooler. Summer is over. We keep chopping into
Speaker 1: a kid's vacation. Let a kid be a kid, go
Speaker 1: on vacation, plays, do special things, go on long hikes,
Speaker 1: camp out, go on a family trip out to Utah.
Speaker 1: Look at the magnificence of the outback in and around Ogden, Utah.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Go to the North and South Dakota wonderful,
Speaker 1: spend time together. And because other school districts fail, that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you have to be punished. And so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work with VeVe Gramaswami to get the teachers
Speaker 1: more money and they need it, more incentives to enter
Speaker 1: into teaching, and more money spend in urban districts to
Speaker 1: bring up the performance of kids that need help because
Speaker 1: they have dysfunctional homes in which they live. There's five
Speaker 1: thousand kids at CPS that are homeless. There's five thousand
Speaker 1: more kids English is the second language that can't participate
Speaker 1: in school. We got major problems. Forty five forty six
Speaker 1: percent are chronically absent. We got major problems. They're not
Speaker 1: solved by telling the kids in Ohio we're going to
Speaker 1: cut out your summer vacation because other school districts can't
Speaker 1: do their job and kids lose too much over the summertime.
Speaker 1: The argument is a school ends maybe a week before
Speaker 1: Memorial Day. By the time school resumes ten days before
Speaker 1: Labor Day, you've lost everything out of your head. It's
Speaker 1: drained out. Well, parents, we did this. I assume you
Speaker 1: did this June, July and August. Have a reading list
Speaker 1: of five books that your kids got to read over
Speaker 1: that maybe a book a week, and then talk about it.
Speaker 1: If a kid is sufficient in math or whatever, gets
Speaker 1: special classes for him, but don't require that. Deer Park
Speaker 1: Community Schools, which by the way, is one of the
Speaker 1: best in the tri state top ten, and the counter
Speaker 1: now on and the leadership of Jim Stall and Chris
Speaker 1: Euster that somehow Deer Park Community School has got to
Speaker 1: be punished for its success. No, no, no, no, let's continue.
Speaker 1: After one o'clock today will be the Great Moager to
Speaker 1: talk about the Bengals and so much more. And also
Speaker 1: after two o'clock today will be Steve Gooden breaking down
Speaker 1: what are legal and illegal orders, what is the genie
Speaker 1: of a convention, how does apply etc.
Speaker 4: And we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But, mister President, policy, policy, policy, then, and on top
Speaker 1: of that policy, do not call anybody the R word
Speaker 1: because you disagree with a policy. It means a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of moms and dads struggling with kids with special needs.
Speaker 1: Even those who support you feel separated from you. And
Speaker 1: that may cost the Indiana congressional seat because unwisely a
Speaker 1: state senator in Indiana has an autistic child and he's
Speaker 1: mad at you now and won't vote for the reapportionment.
Speaker 4: Now, that's stupid.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, people react emotionally when you attack their children,
Speaker 1: mister President, and don't do that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: Let's continue.
Speaker 1: Twelve fifty five The Home of Your Bengals, News Radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WW build Hunting in the Great American White
Speaker 1: Belt is coming later tonight and tomorrow, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with that. But until then, so much happening
Speaker 1: in sports athletics, A good and bad going to you
Speaker 1: and on als Moeiger and Moeiger. First of all, I
Speaker 1: need some psychotherapy. If you're ready, let's do it. Put
Speaker 1: me on the couch. I'm looking at the Bengals game
Speaker 1: in Baltimore on Thursday night. I'm seeing a Super Bowl team.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a defense that're causing five turnovers. I'm watching
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow left and right and short, and I'm watching
Speaker 1: a hundred yard rusher.
Speaker 4: I'm watching Moneymack.
Speaker 1: He's cashing checks for a million dollars, five or six
Speaker 1: field goals right down the middle, fifty yards, fifty six,
Speaker 1: sixty four yards, ten yards, whatever it is. I'm watching
Speaker 1: a team thrashing Lamar Jackson, not Michael Jackson, but Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: thrashing him all around Baltimore Stadium. And I get depressed.
Speaker 1: And I get depressed because I'm saying, where were these
Speaker 1: guys during the losing when they won one game with
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco lost all the other games. So far, Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow has played two and a half games this year.
Speaker 1: Here it is December, and they won both two and
Speaker 1: a half games. He's played the second game. Of course,
Speaker 1: we had Browning coming in. Nonetheless, he won. They won
Speaker 1: the game, and so I'm depressed because I think of
Speaker 1: all the things that might have been. I saw a
Speaker 1: Bengals team to look like Joe's second or third season
Speaker 1: instead of sixties. And you understand what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: I get depressed when they win, and I get depressed
Speaker 1: when they don't win.
Speaker 4: I'm just depressed. Can you give me some help? Can
Speaker 4: you give me some lithium?
Speaker 5: Can you give me.
Speaker 4: Some prescriptive drugs? What do I need to get me
Speaker 4: out of my funk? I don't like to listen to
Speaker 4: him when they win. I don't like to listen to
Speaker 4: him when they lose. I get angry. Can you know
Speaker 4: when you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: I know what you're saying. Here's the prescription. I would
Speaker 6: tell you to study the current plight of the two
Speaker 6: teams in front of the Bengals in the AFC North,
Speaker 6: because I'm not sure I trust either of those teams. Now, look,
Speaker 6: here's the basic mass of this.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: The Bengals are two games behind, two teams. So they've got,
Speaker 6: in essence, lead frog two teams with five games to go,
Speaker 6: and they trail both by two. And that's not going
Speaker 6: to change this weekend because even at the Bengals go
Speaker 6: to Buffalo and win, Baltimore and Pittsburgh play against each other,
Speaker 6: so the defeston will still be two games with four
Speaker 6: to go a week from today. But let's talk about
Speaker 6: the Baltimore Ravens for a second. Did you see an
Speaker 6: MVP caliber quarterback playing for them on Thursday night?
Speaker 1: The answer to that would be absolutely no, Hell no.
Speaker 6: Lamart Lamar Jackson has been an awesome player in this
Speaker 6: league for a while now, he hasn't played awesome this year.
Speaker 6: Doesn't look one hundred percent. I have no idea why
Speaker 6: they only gave Derek Henry the football ten times in
Speaker 6: that game, five in the first half. They have been
Speaker 6: offensively very uneven for a long stretch of time. And
Speaker 6: so let's look at this from a gambling perpective, because
Speaker 6: I now you like to make a wager. Way, if
Speaker 6: you want to invest in the Baltimore Ravens to win
Speaker 6: the AFC North right now, the odds are minus two
Speaker 6: to sixty.
Speaker 3: What are you investing in.
Speaker 6: You're investing in a team that offensively just hasn't hit
Speaker 6: its stride for the last six seven weeks, that still
Speaker 6: has a pretty tough schedule. They still have to play
Speaker 6: the Steelers twice. They still have to play the Green
Speaker 6: Bay Packers. They still have a game against the New
Speaker 6: England Patriots. Baltimore Ravens are on shaky ground right now.
Speaker 6: They're just six and six. They have a game against
Speaker 6: Cincinnati here, a team that they just lost. To talk
Speaker 6: about the Pittsburgh Steelers also just six and six. They've
Speaker 6: coalked away a four and one start. Offensively, they look disjointed.
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is old and injured, like legitimately injured. Defensively,
Speaker 6: they spend a lot of money on that defense. It
Speaker 6: has failed when presented with opportunities to win games time
Speaker 6: and again.
Speaker 5: T J.
Speaker 6: Watt gets to the quarterback very infrequently for a player
Speaker 6: of his stature and for what they're paying them. So
Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Steeler are six and six odds to win
Speaker 6: the AFC North plus two sixty. Does that look like
Speaker 6: a team that anybody would be really excited about investing in.
Speaker 6: Simpers still has the Dolphins at home Miami is playing
Speaker 6: pretty well. They have to go to Detroit. They do
Speaker 6: have a game in Cleveland against the Browns, and they
Speaker 6: have a return match against the Baltimore Ravens. Again, the
Speaker 6: math for the Bengals isn't great, but here's what is good.
Speaker 6: They're seventeen and five in December and January games in
Speaker 6: the regular season since twenty twenty one. If you take
Speaker 6: away twenty twenty one when they made the Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: guess what, they're even better fourteen and two. They've won
Speaker 6: fourteen of their last sixteen December and January regular season games.
Speaker 6: That includes a three game winning streak with Jake Brown. Now,
Speaker 6: they also have a track record against the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 6: It's limited, but it's excellent. Joe Burrow plays great against Buffalo.
Speaker 6: This team is usually really good down the stretch. They're
Speaker 6: probably gonna be favored in for their last five. Again,
Speaker 6: I get it, matth. The odds are not in their favor,
Speaker 6: which is why you could buy the Bengals win the
Speaker 6: AFC North at plus nine hundred. But I don't know
Speaker 6: why anybody would look at Baltimore and feel like that
Speaker 6: they're gonna salt this thing away. Here in the next
Speaker 6: couple of weeks. And I feel the same way about
Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Cincinnati is three and one in the division.
Speaker 6: They're gonna get another crack at the Ravens here. I
Speaker 6: think there's hope. They have Joe Burrow back. They should
Speaker 6: get T Higgins back this week. Offensively, they're pretty damn healthy,
Speaker 6: and while I am skeptical that the defense has turned
Speaker 6: the corner, they certainly have shown some signs, some positive
Speaker 6: signs over the last couple of games. I think if
Speaker 6: you look at this division, the door is open. Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: had a chance to run away with it, couldn't. Baltimore
Speaker 6: had a chance to put the Bengals away, couldn't. And
Speaker 6: so the door might not be wide open, but it's
Speaker 6: at least a jar. And I think they're interesting here
Speaker 6: as we get set to watch the Bengals play the
Speaker 6: Bills on Sunday.
Speaker 1: And the Steel Curtain just gave up two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty nine yards rushing in Pittsburgh undred forty nine yards rushing,
Speaker 1: which is almost impossible.
Speaker 4: Somebody's got to win. Why do you like it or not?
Speaker 1: Ravens look terrible, Pittsburgh looks worse. Bengals are a rising
Speaker 1: someone has to win and likely Bengals had the tiebreaker,
Speaker 1: correct if they if they went out, If they went out,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win the division?
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 6: You know, I feel pretty good about that because they
Speaker 6: will have as they went out. And again, that is
Speaker 6: a major if you're asking a team that has been
Speaker 6: defensively one of the worst in history to win six
Speaker 6: consecutive games. But if they do that, they'll have a
Speaker 6: five to one record against the AC North. They'll have
Speaker 6: two head to head wins against the Baltimore Ravens. I
Speaker 6: believe if they get to nine and eight, they win. Now,
Speaker 6: can they go to Buffalo and win? Can they beat
Speaker 6: the Ravens here? Can they avoid stubbing their toe on
Speaker 6: the road against the Miami Dolphins. No. Answers are yes,
Speaker 6: yes and yes yes. Then I'm not sure the last
Speaker 6: two weeks it could be set up any easier for
Speaker 6: them with a home game against the Cargo who are
Speaker 6: not very good, in the home game against Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 6: who are atrocious. Again, I understand the mathematics of this.
Speaker 6: You need Pittsburgh and Baltimore to split with each other.
Speaker 6: You don't want one to beat the other. One twice,
Speaker 6: but those two teams are five hundred for a reason.
Speaker 6: It feels like both have kind of failed to put
Speaker 6: the Bengals away. And Joe Burrow is back, my guess
Speaker 6: is he's only going to get better. Zach Taylor does
Speaker 6: have a very good track record towards the end of
Speaker 6: the season in the regular season. I think there's legitimate
Speaker 6: reasons for hope BILLI I absolutely did.
Speaker 1: In the last three games, the Bengals defense have given
Speaker 1: up twenty nineteen and fourteen points, which is like fifth
Speaker 1: or sixth in the league. Something happened to the defense
Speaker 1: without Trey Henderson. I don't understand the Bengals give up
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and fourteen points on average. They're giving up
Speaker 1: seventeen points a game, and I like the Bengals chances
Speaker 1: more than the other ones. Speaking of that, at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, you bring it up Scott sad Field,
Speaker 1: and as I recall, last year, they were five and
Speaker 1: two then collapsed with five consecutive losses.
Speaker 4: This year there's.
Speaker 1: Seven and one and then they lose four straight and
Speaker 1: I guess they're going to go to some bowl game
Speaker 1: the day after Christmas. Nobody's gonna want to go to
Speaker 1: that game. How come the Bengals go one direction at
Speaker 1: the end of the season and the Paracuts go another.
Speaker 1: Can you explain that one to the American people?
Speaker 6: Who's been worse in November? The Democrats in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 6: the Republicans in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: For Scott Sadderfield.
Speaker 1: I'm going with Scott Saderfield becaes that guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the longer he coaches each season, the worse
Speaker 1: the team gets.
Speaker 4: Am I right? The more the more they're around him,
Speaker 4: the more they lose. Have you noticed this or not?
Speaker 6: One and eleven in the month of November ten consecutive
Speaker 6: November when November started with calendar flipped. When the calendar
Speaker 6: flipped from October to November, the Bearcats were seven to
Speaker 6: one and in the thick of the AFC or the
Speaker 6: AFC the Big twelve title game race. When the month ended,
Speaker 6: four consecutive losses and while they are Bowl eligible, I
Speaker 6: think number one a very similar feeling to last year,
Speaker 6: where all the good vibes of the first half of
Speaker 6: the season were kind of undone by just an avalanche
Speaker 6: of like self inflicted mistakes over the last four games.
Speaker 6: Four losses against good teams. The four teams they played
Speaker 6: are each going bowling. I think Utah is good BYU's
Speaker 6: got a chance to play in the College Football Playoff,
Speaker 6: but the Bearcats got in their own way way too often.
Speaker 6: And I think the other thing that's troubling about it,
Speaker 6: Bill is if you look at the roster, their best
Speaker 6: players are all leaving, either because their college eligibility has
Speaker 6: expired or they're going to jump to the NFL. And
Speaker 6: so I think there's a real sense of opportunity lost
Speaker 6: here because when you have a roster like that where
Speaker 6: a lot of the best players are going to you're
Speaker 6: supposed to do more than just win seven games while
Speaker 6: you have those guys and you know, yes, we have
Speaker 6: the transfer portal and nil and you can turn things
Speaker 6: around pretty quickly. But I think there's a lot of
Speaker 6: uncertainty with the composition of the roster next season.
Speaker 5: I certainly don't.
Speaker 6: Think Scott Satterfield is going to be fired, and I
Speaker 6: do think relative to where things were when he took over,
Speaker 6: it's it's a it's to his credit that this team
Speaker 6: has become more competitive in the Big twelve, but I
Speaker 6: think it's very fair to wonder can this guy get
Speaker 6: them over the hump, especially when he has performed as
Speaker 6: poorly or his teams have performed as poorly in the
Speaker 6: month of November. That has come to define this program
Speaker 6: under Scott Saderfield, right, not necessarily that they always get
Speaker 6: off the strong starts, because the team two years ago
Speaker 6: or three years ago only won three games, but the
Speaker 6: last two years they were in a position to at
Speaker 6: least contend for a Big twelve championship, and in both
Speaker 6: cases they failed by not winning a game at all
Speaker 6: in the month of November. And I don't know what
Speaker 6: the answer for that to change is going to be.
Speaker 6: And if it doesn't change next year, my guess is
Speaker 6: we are talking about something that we're not talking about
Speaker 6: right now, which is the University of Cincinnati looking at
Speaker 6: a replacement.
Speaker 1: You may not know it, Mo, but one and eleven
Speaker 1: is not good. In fact, you know that's about nine
Speaker 1: percent of wins, and the faithful don't like that. We
Speaker 1: have Andy Mack coming up in about fifteen minutes to
Speaker 1: break down the Crosstown shootout. Later this week. It's going
Speaker 1: to be Miller time. It's going to be Patino time.
Speaker 1: You see, it's going in one direction. You had some
Speaker 1: tweets or x accounts about how bad the bear Cuts
Speaker 1: were the first half of the last game. They were awful.
Speaker 1: They were terrible. They had more turnovers than baskets made.
Speaker 1: Xavier's go in the opposite direction break down the Crosstown
Speaker 1: shootout mo.
Speaker 6: Well. I think it has to get Rich of Patino's
Speaker 6: team a lot of credit because three weeks ago when
Speaker 6: they were run off the floor by Santa Clara, a
Speaker 6: lot of folks talk at the skyline Chili Crosstown shootout
Speaker 6: the result was going to be inevitable, and I think
Speaker 6: as much as a lot of people didn't want to
Speaker 6: hear it at the time, they showed some signs in
Speaker 6: that loss to Iowa. Played very well in their MTE
Speaker 6: with Georgia and West Virginia. They have shot the ball better,
Speaker 6: They run good stuff offensively. I think the Bearcats are
Speaker 6: still looking for an identity. It will help if they
Speaker 6: have Boba Miller back, who is clearly their best player.
Speaker 6: Left the Louisville game in the second half, hasn't played since.
Speaker 6: We'll see if he goes tonight without him, who's going
Speaker 6: to carry the load offensively, Who's gonna get tough buckets
Speaker 6: in the tough arena. Who's gonna get buckets when the
Speaker 6: Bearcats are trailing in the second half by four and
Speaker 6: they need a basket. Who's going to keep the other
Speaker 6: team from going on an eight to ten point run.
Speaker 6: Who's going to help them get defensive stops? There are
Speaker 6: still it's very early December. First, there's still lots of
Speaker 6: unknowns about this team. And while I think the ceiling
Speaker 6: for the Musketeers is low, it's not an overly talented team.
Speaker 6: You can see guys I think kind of evolving into
Speaker 6: specific roles. I don't think that's happened with the Bearcats yet,
Speaker 6: and so it's going to be interesting. Look, Cincinnati hasn't
Speaker 6: wonted the Centa Center in twenty four years. I think
Speaker 6: there's a real sense of if not this year one,
Speaker 6: are you going to do it now? We said the
Speaker 6: same thing two years ago Xavier won that game. I
Speaker 6: think the noise is going to be awfully allowed and
Speaker 6: the conversations are going to be really interesting if the
Speaker 6: Bearcats don't win this one this year. But I think
Speaker 6: this game has gone from one that felt like, you
Speaker 6: know what, the Bearcats are very likely to win to
Speaker 6: one that I think is closer to a fifty to
Speaker 6: fifty game, and that's not something that I think fans
Speaker 6: of either team would have entertained three weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Lastly, I had on the governor to be viveg Ramaswami
Speaker 1: from Sandex High School, and he talked about year round schooling.
Speaker 1: It's not a policy prescription yet, he says, he's talking
Speaker 1: to parents and educators and teachers around the state. As
Speaker 1: the father of a little girl, what is your sense
Speaker 1: of year round schooling? Mo, if you were sitting here
Speaker 1: with Avake Ramaswami. I love saying his name because I
Speaker 1: can that. What would you say to avike rama Swami
Speaker 1: about year round schooling for your daughter?
Speaker 6: If you want me to vote for you, then stop
Speaker 6: talking about year round school Why my kid's not going
Speaker 6: to school year round? Okay, let's not rob our kids
Speaker 6: of summers. Like spending the summer with my kid. I
Speaker 6: do everything I can to make sure she's ready to
Speaker 6: go when the school year starts in August, which, by
Speaker 6: the way, the school year is starting in early August
Speaker 6: is stupid. If he really wants my vote, what he'll
Speaker 6: say is not only are we not going to have
Speaker 6: year round school. We're not going to send the kids
Speaker 6: back to school until after Labor Day.
Speaker 3: Correct, No, nobody.
Speaker 6: The teachers don't want to do it. Have a hard
Speaker 6: enough time retaining teachers as is. Now, let's take away
Speaker 6: the one character would make anybody want a tea each,
Speaker 6: which is you get ten weeks off. Let's rob these
Speaker 6: kids up their summers. No, summer is a time for family.
Speaker 6: It's a time for extracurricular activities. It's a time for
Speaker 6: learning things that you don't necessarily learn in the classroom. No.
Speaker 6: If if mister Ramaswami wants me to vote for him,
Speaker 6: then what he'll do is publicly, perhaps on your show,
Speaker 6: renounce his position that we're gonna have a year round school.
Speaker 6: This is the problem with adults. Adul't forget how cool
Speaker 6: it is to.
Speaker 3: Be a kid.
Speaker 6: Why is it cool to be a kid because you
Speaker 6: get ten freaking weeks off during the summertime. Do not
Speaker 6: take that away, dude, My kid is not going to school.
Speaker 5: You could send a.
Speaker 6: Truant officer to my house. I'll homeschooler if I have to.
Speaker 6: She is not sitting in a classroom in the middle
Speaker 6: of July when it's one hundred and five degrees out
Speaker 6: and pools are open. That ain't happening. So tell your
Speaker 6: boy he wants me to go to the ballot box
Speaker 6: and vote for him and not Amy acton. Oh, he
Speaker 6: probably still wants to put a mask in my kid. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you tell your boy he wants me to go to
Speaker 6: the ballot box and vote for him, get rid of
Speaker 6: this year around school conjecture and talk about doing something
Speaker 6: that actually can help people.
Speaker 1: Well, Mo, I'm with you on this one one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: because the summertime with my son was the best time,
Speaker 1: coaching and traveling and doing things together as a family.
Speaker 1: His argument is, too many kids fall behind in the summertime.
Speaker 1: They leave as third and fourth graders able to read,
Speaker 1: They come back two weeks in the middle of August,
Speaker 1: they can't read. They don't show up. Good parents don't
Speaker 1: need it. Bad parents do. But I just think the
Speaker 1: solution to the education crisis and urban areas is not
Speaker 1: year round schooling, because it'd be more true and see
Speaker 1: than there is today. Right now, forty five percent of
Speaker 1: kids in cps are chronically absent anyway, and if it
Speaker 1: was summertime, that would be ninety five percent, would be
Speaker 1: chronically absent, so I will work with him to earn
Speaker 1: your vote.
Speaker 6: Mo how about that, Well, that number is going to
Speaker 6: be one hundred percent of my house because we're not
Speaker 6: wrapping around the fourth of July holiday a bunch of
Speaker 6: homework where you got to get to school after the
Speaker 6: fourth of July holiday?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: A thousand plus teachers, underpaid, underappreciated, and overworked.
Speaker 4: The last thing they want to do is being schooled
Speaker 4: twelve months a year, even if they're paying a little
Speaker 4: bit of extra money. That's the good part about being
Speaker 4: a teachers. You're off for ten weeks and then you
Speaker 4: got the pension. If you put in thirty years of
Speaker 4: hard labor, then you get a pension. But nonetheless, to me,
Speaker 4: it's a good idea, but the implement implementation would be stupid,
Speaker 4: all right, Moager.
Speaker 6: The Crocus idea, it's awful. And and by the way,
Speaker 6: if we had the teachers go to school year round,
Speaker 6: guess what more school levies to pay for it. That's
Speaker 6: always a lot of fun. Tell your boy, okay, we
Speaker 6: got a year. Tell your boy wants me to go
Speaker 6: to the ballot box and vote for him. This is
Speaker 6: the issue I care about my kid ain't going to
Speaker 6: school year round.
Speaker 4: I'll pass it on mo.
Speaker 1: I like the fire get You have passion when it
Speaker 1: comes to a bak Ramaswami. Don't have passion about the
Speaker 1: crossdown shootout. I have passionate about me angry when the
Speaker 1: Bengals win. You don't have passionate about me thinking the
Speaker 1: Red's are not going to go anywhere because of the
Speaker 1: structure of Major League Baseball. Yeah, you don't have passionate
Speaker 1: about about Lane Kiffin going to LSU, But you have
Speaker 1: passionate about your daughter not going to school in the
Speaker 1: fourth of July.
Speaker 4: And I'm with you in that.
Speaker 7: Mo.
Speaker 4: I'm getting fired up, and I thank you very much,
Speaker 4: Thank you, Moe.
Speaker 6: I got a lot of passion. I got a lot
Speaker 6: of passionate about Lane Kiffin, idiotic that he thinks he
Speaker 6: could still coach at LSU when he's gone to work
Speaker 6: for a competitor. I got a lot of passion about
Speaker 6: the Reds not Son and kyleis Warber, not because of
Speaker 6: baseball's economics, but because they won't pay him. But yeah,
Speaker 6: you're right. More than anything, I hate it when adults
Speaker 6: take away the childhood of kids. I will not vote for.
Speaker 6: I don't care what party you're from. I will not
Speaker 6: vote for a potential elected official who chooses to take
Speaker 6: the childhood away from my daughter. Tell your boy got
Speaker 6: a here, I'm telling him, come up with something else.
Speaker 4: I'm telling him. I'm telling him, O, I'm telling him,
Speaker 4: thank you. Let's continue. Seven hundred wlwave you.
Speaker 7: Wins it the Musky's winning seventy one sixty nine and
Speaker 7: is the usually pancatch my number one in the country,
Speaker 7: Number two him around City seventy one sixty nine, winning
Speaker 7: proud of the triple drive for the left wing.
Speaker 3: Perry did inside the.
Speaker 7: Pre pro line Husky's winning seventy one sixty nine.
Speaker 6: Over U see incredible Number one goes down on their
Speaker 6: on floor.
Speaker 7: Oh hello, hello, Pyot And I'm spoke.
Speaker 3: I'm broadcasting you.
Speaker 4: Bony. Think we have Andy Mack in the studio with
Speaker 4: us to night, Willie, because of the the action coming
Speaker 4: up Friday night. Friday night, it's all going to be there.
Speaker 1: And it's been a quarter of a century since you
Speaker 1: sees one at the Sintas Centers at correct mac quarter
Speaker 1: of a century, Willie.
Speaker 4: Her grasp book history is right on point.
Speaker 8: It was two thousand and one, Huggs was the UC coach,
Speaker 8: and Fat Mada in his first shootout as a Xavier
Speaker 8: coach the only coach three of them then of Sconda
Speaker 8: to Ohio State.
Speaker 4: I'm scouted David West.
Speaker 8: Don't give me in this Xavior players sprained his ankle
Speaker 8: early in the ballgame.
Speaker 4: It would have been a completely difficult It would have
Speaker 4: wiped him out. You see, did what win by twenties
Speaker 4: seventy five fifty five?
Speaker 1: They had a hell of a team. Yeah, but UC's
Speaker 1: pretty good. But now they've gone on hard times. A
Speaker 1: week or two ago, the UC faithful told me Moeinger said,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a rough year for Xavier.
Speaker 4: In the sid TOAs center.
Speaker 1: Now, you see, in the first half of the last
Speaker 1: game they played, had more fouls than field goals made.
Speaker 1: So you see is collapsing under the boot of Wes
Speaker 1: Miller and now Xavier's a rising Give us a breakdown,
Speaker 1: Mac on Friday night.
Speaker 4: What's going to happen and how that that loss by UC?
Speaker 8: The Eastern Michigan has not been a decent team since
Speaker 8: their nickname was the Hurons, like fifteen years ago before.
Speaker 4: Wolken has said hit. You can't be a year hon
Speaker 4: or a chip Awa anymore.
Speaker 8: I think they're the Eagles now, you know, take five
Speaker 8: talues to coach Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, or was it Detroit. I don't
Speaker 1: remember a coach Detroit. I know the Detroit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: He had a bunch of really good players there. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but he was a terrible coach. He was pretty brullial.
Speaker 4: We only had one high by the way, big.
Speaker 1: I thought he had two eyes. One was lazy and
Speaker 1: one was aggressive. I think one is like totally it's gone.
Speaker 1: He can't see. But break down the game, Mac, because
Speaker 1: you're here, I mean, we want to hear what's going
Speaker 1: to happen Friday night. Well, I've done my usual copious preparation.
Speaker 1: I distilled a little bit because I seldom use any
Speaker 1: of it when I'm here talking with you, Willie.
Speaker 8: But uh, you know, I've used AI and now to
Speaker 8: analyze all the data. AI segment. You know what AI is,
Speaker 8: Alan Iverson, That's it right there.
Speaker 5: AI.
Speaker 4: He had the ride in the mall in Virginia.
Speaker 8: I thought it was a one sauce a one, AI know,
Speaker 8: a one, But Ken Palm has the great U uh
Speaker 8: fount of all basketball statistics has now reversed his field.
Speaker 8: As both probably referred to, it was Xavier down by
Speaker 8: twelve early when we opened the season. They put the
Speaker 8: initial predictions on Ken Palm, Xavier was going to get
Speaker 8: blown out out of the water. Now Ken Palm, it
Speaker 8: just passed the fifty to fifty Xavier seventy two.
Speaker 4: U see seventy one, seventy seventy one xt Well, why
Speaker 4: play the game?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 8: As far as I'm concerned, we'll take a W and
Speaker 8: we'll move on to the next.
Speaker 4: The much trouble is Wes Miller in I know you
Speaker 4: care a lot about UC and I've heard Wes is
Speaker 4: really a nice guy. Some friends of mine drink with
Speaker 4: him at Pearls on Eastern Naw, everyone drinks with him.
Speaker 8: The strongest authorities I've ever heard him say is dang dang.
Speaker 8: I think he needs to be a little more demonstrative
Speaker 8: with his players.
Speaker 4: Maybe, but he may. He may be in practice Dan,
Speaker 4: but I think it.
Speaker 8: Would it would be it would be a good move
Speaker 8: by Wes to get to the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4: He's O for four now is he's not good? Not good?
Speaker 4: Not good?
Speaker 8: And seeing that the Big twelve will have like eight
Speaker 8: teams in out of fifteen.
Speaker 4: Pretty good, does your mac.
Speaker 8: They got some some possibilities, but so it went over.
Speaker 8: Xavier certainly would help West he's got one though, he's
Speaker 8: got one. The bear Cat faithful he's got one win, right,
Speaker 8: But that that was that was a problem last year.
Speaker 8: I mean the officiating was terrible. Freemantle missed an open
Speaker 8: three that would have sent.
Speaker 4: It the ot.
Speaker 8: We had him foul to Xavior Blue like a seven
Speaker 8: point lead in the last final War. It's Freemantle doing
Speaker 8: these days. Free Mattle is playing for the l A Clippers.
Speaker 8: I believe at least he might be going up and
Speaker 8: down from the G League.
Speaker 1: But he gotta need help. The Clippers need help, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. And also breakdown if you can, Xavier, we're
Speaker 1: gonna look forward to I know right now. Richard Patino
Speaker 1: has the boys playing the best they've played, so kind
Speaker 1: of breakdown Xavier for us.
Speaker 8: Well, Xavior's time pretty well lately, and O Patino had
Speaker 8: nothing I'm the roster and not nothing, I mean nothing,
Speaker 8: he had no play. Roddy Anderson, who was red shirted
Speaker 8: last year, is a really fast point guard. That number
Speaker 8: zero is coming off the bench now, but he's playing
Speaker 8: like twenty four minutes a game. He's super fast. Zeroly
Speaker 8: playing a lot zero Saviors got six pretty solid guys.
Speaker 8: They shoot the three really well. They're not turning the
Speaker 8: ball over much. They melt their free throwsuc which is
Speaker 8: shooting their usual sixty four percent.
Speaker 4: Because the game sold out, I'm sure it is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and the students are still there. Thank god.
Speaker 8: They haven't had the exam kids, so they'll be I
Speaker 8: sort of like I want it to be a bubbling
Speaker 8: cauldron of hate right now directed toward I mean, I
Speaker 8: like the bear.
Speaker 1: Cat John Cunningham, I mean Wes Miller. Who's the hate for, well,
Speaker 1: just in general, Geral my brother's John Cunningham.
Speaker 8: Really, I didn't know you were related. Yes, he's a
Speaker 8: good dude. I've never thought like him. Was a nice fellow.
Speaker 4: He's got football problems, would you agree?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 8: I mean they started so well, what they'd be, they
Speaker 8: would have been like eight and oh, but they gave
Speaker 8: away that Nebraska game too. I guess they couldn't figure
Speaker 8: out that Nebraska was only a two hour drive from
Speaker 8: Kansas City.
Speaker 4: They couldn't get that figured. That means they couldn't fit,
Speaker 4: but they took the three million.
Speaker 1: The other thing, I looked at the Zabiers. What about
Speaker 1: the Xavier women's basketball team? They just lost by sixty
Speaker 1: six points. How do you lose by sixty six points
Speaker 1: to Connecticut?
Speaker 8: You know they haven't been Connecticut does the the cattle. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but Xavier's got to be somewhat Competitorcket and you're talking
Speaker 8: all these great stars, but Xavior women's basketball hasn't been
Speaker 8: the same since that guy Chuck whatever his name is,
Speaker 8: of Scott to Ohio State. Him and Melanie Falcon was
Speaker 8: great and the Mark Healing, my good friend, was a terrific.
Speaker 4: Who coaches Xavier basketball?
Speaker 1: Now do you know I sixty six points?
Speaker 8: You know the average that's a loss, say average about
Speaker 8: thirty five turnovers a game.
Speaker 1: Or something thirty five. They have more turnovers than points.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that like this.
Speaker 4: That's good. Don't get negative on the ladies. Just be factual. Correct.
Speaker 1: That's bad enough. Say give me into the stud's report.
Speaker 1: I went back to break Down Fire Mike Tomlin, get
Speaker 1: into that. Plus Lane Kiffin make the Xavier to start
Speaker 1: the basketball football program. Here you may maybe he's going
Speaker 1: to be a teacher at the College of Ostia Panthic Medicine.
Speaker 1: I'm told Lane Kiffin is going to come here. He's
Speaker 1: looking for opportunities, isn't he always? Seventy five million dollars?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you go for sure?
Speaker 4: I mean everybody has a price, and it would be away.
Speaker 4: What's your price? Seventy five mili from he what's your price?
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Speaker 4: C Sports. Let's see willye college basketball tonight? Those Xavier
Speaker 4: Musketeers are in action at the Centas Center taking on
Speaker 4: Saint Francis. Saint Francis six point thirty seventy five krc
Speaker 4: DE talk station.
Speaker 8: A one man ten Saint Francis of Pennsylvania, not a
Speaker 8: sea in their same league. They have another Saint Francis
Speaker 8: in New York. That's really very confusing when they play
Speaker 8: each other. If they haven't any radio deals, how the
Speaker 8: radio guy go Saint Francis sixty two Saint Francis six.
Speaker 4: Sixty sixty two. Who wins Saint Francis? I don't know,
Speaker 4: I guess those Saint Francis. And then the Cincinnati Bearcats
Speaker 4: are at fifth third Arena tonight, Willy to take on
Speaker 4: Tarleton State out of Texas?
Speaker 5: What's that?
Speaker 4: The Texans are five and three, they've won three in
Speaker 4: a row. They're coached by former Kentucky coach Billy Gillespie.
Speaker 9: Really who out ran Alan Cuttler the cumber the Cutman.
Speaker 4: Remember ran that he ran the ran the Cutman into
Speaker 4: the office that day. What about that? And mac cum
Speaker 4: But Tarlton was like a cigarette brand. But say, are
Speaker 4: they a school or are they like out of Texas? Willy,
Speaker 4: but Saint Francis, how do you beat Saint Francis? Saint
Speaker 4: Francis of ASSISI he was special, right, But Xavier scheduling
Speaker 4: school they can beat before the crossdown shootout.
Speaker 8: Well, Saint Francis of pa is the three fifty six
Speaker 8: in the NATI sixty five not highly considered, you might say.
Speaker 8: And actually they are defunding or decriminalizing to D three
Speaker 8: next year.
Speaker 4: They're they're going lower. They're going lower.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but they've had some great players like Maurice Stokes
Speaker 8: played there.
Speaker 4: It's been about seventy years. Nor Van Leer was one
Speaker 4: of their great about sixty years.
Speaker 1: Sixty by, after all sixty years spent, being three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty five ranked is not low enough.
Speaker 4: They want to go lower. They want to go to
Speaker 4: D four.
Speaker 8: They could go Naia or maybe Aau aau.
Speaker 4: That's a consider about the Villa. I've been there.
Speaker 8: They've been lost to that team. In nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 8: in the middle of a blizzard, we get up there
Speaker 8: and the team bus coming back from the shoot around
Speaker 8: went into a snow drift. And Pete Gillen as the coach,
Speaker 8: it's his final year. He goes, all right, all you
Speaker 8: scholarship guys, stay on the bus. You walk ons and
Speaker 8: Mark Smidra who went on to be a Marine Corps
Speaker 8: full bird colonel and did fingertip push ups at lunch
Speaker 8: for like Cowers, they pushed the bus out, and Smith
Speaker 8: is a hero. We had a point guard, Surewin Anderson,
Speaker 8: who still lives here in Cincinnati, the sixth man. He's
Speaker 8: a freshman. He forgot his gym shoes. He couldn't play, couldn't.
Speaker 4: Play, no shoes. He couldn't fire. There were no stores
Speaker 4: within Saint Francis. It is not the name of the city.
Speaker 1: They're in Loretta, Loretta Pa. I used to dad a
Speaker 1: woman named Loretta. That's a different story.
Speaker 4: She might have lived there. I don't know. They had
Speaker 4: great line up.
Speaker 1: This thing about having hair in her armpits that turned
Speaker 1: me off. Would you agree?
Speaker 4: It was a little It was a little rough up
Speaker 4: in Loretta, a little rough.
Speaker 1: They didn't have razors she had. She was Harry instead
Speaker 1: of Loretta. I called her Harry.
Speaker 8: That loss by Xavier cost him an ncaa bit because
Speaker 8: they were so low in the RPI.
Speaker 1: Because of Saint Francis, in the snow drift, players without
Speaker 1: shoes and ugly women.
Speaker 4: Please continue, Willie, let's see good luck to Anderson. Thursday,
Speaker 4: they will take on the Avon for the Division Tuesday
Speaker 4: championship in Canton. Who do you like there? Mac, I
Speaker 4: will take the local team, you know, raptors.
Speaker 8: Anderson has managed their enrollments, so they're just in Division two.
Speaker 4: That too, they expelled kids. You get too close, they
Speaker 4: expel a bunch of kids out. Get out of here. Saint
Speaker 4: x we'll go up against old and tangy Orange Friday
Speaker 4: for the Division one state champions Agent Orange. Who's no
Speaker 4: Northern Kentucky teams playing for a state title for the
Speaker 4: first time? What I could gather from first time since
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy eight, no team from Boone, Kenton or Campbell
Speaker 4: County playing for a title. Beechwood got beat. So they're
Speaker 4: playing Agent Orange. Who's sant X playing old and tangy Orange.
Speaker 4: They're very good. That's a Columbus happen. What about that out?
Speaker 4: They're out? They're out?
Speaker 1: Well, if Anderson gets too many kids, they kick out
Speaker 1: twenty kids and stay in Division two.
Speaker 4: Want to play X? Kentucky fired football coach Mark Stoops today.
Speaker 4: How much money? Say five and seven season he's owed?
Speaker 4: He had a contract through twenty thirty one remaining salary.
Speaker 4: He is a thirty seven and a half Wallian dollars
Speaker 4: for Kentucky football. Correct Mack your reaction.
Speaker 8: They got nipped by Louisville forty one nothing, so that
Speaker 8: that was the final nail.
Speaker 4: He's done a good job, done a great job.
Speaker 1: He gets fired and lose the Louisville by six touchdakes
Speaker 1: for I mean out the door.
Speaker 4: He's no who's going to hire him? Again are they?
Speaker 4: I think Ryan Kella as Doug Flynn pay him out
Speaker 4: of the Central Bank.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 1: Wow, Mick, we got to go. But thanks for coming
Speaker 1: in to breakdown all the statistics.
Speaker 8: Musky's winning the seventy four to sixty nine the Andy
Speaker 8: mac prediction. But I'm not terribly objective.
Speaker 1: Write that down on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 4: By Billy cunning in The Great American this morning.
Speaker 1: Of many of the talk shows, Senator Mark Kelly, others,
Speaker 1: who are they are talking about possibly charging Pete heg
Speaker 1: Seth or Donald Trump once he leaves office with murder
Speaker 1: and war crimes. Actually incapability of running for reelection twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight is not enough. But the allegation the charges
Speaker 1: might be murder Pete Heckseth, for example, and may be
Speaker 1: charged by a state, or by the Feds or by
Speaker 1: the Geneva Convention on a war crime. And this has
Speaker 1: to do with taking the lives and individuals involved in
Speaker 1: the international drug cartel trade. And also seemingly there's an
Speaker 1: allegation that a couple of the drug runners might have
Speaker 1: lived and we're on a raft and that heck Seth
Speaker 1: ordered their execution on a raft and Donald Trump was
Speaker 1: asked that question a few days ago, he said it
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Nonetheless, the allegation is tantamount to proof and
Speaker 1: the views of the mainstream media. So let's get what
Speaker 1: the what the framework is. Of course, Steve Gooden has
Speaker 1: for those who may not know, as an attorney, he's
Speaker 1: also been in the on the reserve for long periods
Speaker 1: of time. He's also taught courses on the Geneva Convention
Speaker 1: and Attorney Steve Gooden, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Of all, Steve, tell the American people your credentials when
Speaker 1: it comes to this area, so we know of what
Speaker 1: you speak.
Speaker 5: Well, Dave, my pleasure. God.
Speaker 10: So yeah, when I was on active duty as a
Speaker 10: young captain in the JAG Corps during the Iraq War,
Speaker 10: I was down at Fort Bragg with the eighteenthar One
Speaker 10: Corps and I taught the rules of war law, rules
Speaker 10: of engagement, Geneva Conventions to a lot of the deploying troops.
Speaker 10: So you know, I've got some experience studying this, and
Speaker 10: I know that the rules of engagement can be kind
Speaker 10: of difficult to discern, particularly for civilians or folks who've
Speaker 10: never had to had to take a deep dive into that.
Speaker 10: So happy, happy to share with you what I know.
Speaker 1: All right, So Senator Kelly is making the allegation, which
Speaker 1: of course is true. What they're all saying is is
Speaker 1: black letter law. You don't have to follow an illegal order,
Speaker 1: an unlawful order. In fact, you're required not to follow it.
Speaker 1: But how do you know it's legal or illegal? How
Speaker 1: do you know if someone for example, the drone strike
Speaker 1: that Biden indirectly ordered on a family after the Cabbo
Speaker 1: massacre of our thirteen soldiers, he ordered a drone strike
Speaker 1: that killed like twenty family members, including mainly women and children.
Speaker 1: He said, oh, I'm sorry, it was a mistake, and
Speaker 1: that wasn't a big deal at all. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to two drug runners, in the media's perspective, it's
Speaker 1: a big deal. So what is a legal order? What's unlawful?
Speaker 1: During the fog of war? How do you know which
Speaker 1: is what?
Speaker 10: Well, first, let's have a moment of silence for the
Speaker 10: drug runners. I mean, this is a human I'm kidding.
Speaker 10: That's terrible.
Speaker 1: That Senator Kelly would like to have you understand that
Speaker 1: a murder was committed, a war crime was committed, and
Speaker 1: the victims were two cocaine drug runners out of Venezuela.
Speaker 1: Let's have a second of silence. That's enough tell us
Speaker 1: what the answer is.
Speaker 10: The answer is this, though it's like, it's actually a
Speaker 10: lot more simple than Senator Kelly seems to want to
Speaker 10: make it. I mean absolutely, a soldier, a marine, a
Speaker 10: Navy officer, midshipman, whoever it might be, does have an
Speaker 10: obligation not to follow an illegal order that is defined
Speaker 10: typically as your superior officer tells you to do something
Speaker 10: like shoot a prisoner or something to that effect. You
Speaker 10: have an obligation under the Geneva Convention to say no,
Speaker 10: you know, that's not how I was taught, that's not
Speaker 10: what we're going to do. But these big issues of policy,
Speaker 10: you have no obligation whatsoever. So I know in the
Speaker 10: past there have been people insinuating that National Guard troops
Speaker 10: who were deployed in DC had some obligation to resist
Speaker 10: under this idea that's an illegal order.
Speaker 5: That's not the case.
Speaker 10: That's a matter of public policy for the elected officials
Speaker 10: to decide. And so trying to figure out whether or
Speaker 10: not these interdiction actions they're taking down in the Caribbean
Speaker 10: primarily are are actually not part of an armed conflict,
Speaker 10: which is the whole issue.
Speaker 5: Wheer the Geneva.
Speaker 10: Convention, whether or not an actual armed conflict is going on,
Speaker 10: that is a policy decision well above the end of
Speaker 10: vidual sailors or Coastguard members pay grade. They're not required
Speaker 10: under the law to have to try to figure that out. Now,
Speaker 10: if there are specific orders that are being issued that
Speaker 10: they no violate the Geneva Conventions, like cruelty to prisoners,
Speaker 10: et cetera, that's another matter. But I think that is
Speaker 10: murky at best, and I think this is all just
Speaker 10: a lot of political chess stumping that's going on at
Speaker 10: this point.
Speaker 1: So if it's a policy matter, soldiers can't involve themselves
Speaker 1: or airmen in that. If it's an order to do something,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is saying, I am sure that Hexseth did
Speaker 1: not order two guilty individuals on a raft to be executed.
Speaker 1: They were like giving up, so in battle, this in
Speaker 1: a sense is a war. If they give up, raise
Speaker 1: the white flag, say I surrender. Does that mean they
Speaker 1: can't be harmed.
Speaker 10: Under the Geneva Convention yes, and under our rules of
Speaker 10: engagement yes. So somebody really did surrender and they fired
Speaker 10: on them and shot at them.
Speaker 5: Then they might have a problem.
Speaker 10: But just the practicality of a court martial, and I've
Speaker 10: done court martials, is that you know, you can bring
Speaker 10: the charges, but typically in my experience, and I only
Speaker 10: did a handful of them down at Fort Bragg, I mean,
Speaker 10: you're entitled what they call a panel, which is a
Speaker 10: jury of your peers, which are soldiers who are of
Speaker 10: your rank or higher, and they tend to there's a
Speaker 10: lot of jury nullification that goes on under those circumstances.
Speaker 10: They tend to give the individual soldier the benefit of
Speaker 10: the doubt in these cases, and it's one of the
Speaker 10: reasons why a lot of them are not brought. So
Speaker 10: you know, yes, you have this, like you know, theoretical
Speaker 10: scenario where you could bring up an individual, you know,
Speaker 10: soldier or sailor on some sort of on a court
Speaker 10: martial for doing something to a surrendering individual, but proving
Speaker 10: that is very, very difficult, and you really don't have
Speaker 10: a prosecuting witness unless, you know, unless there's video, which
Speaker 10: in a lot of cases there is some drove video
Speaker 10: these days, but even that can be in So I
Speaker 10: think this is all in all likelihood much to do
Speaker 10: about nothing. I do think and hope that the Trump
Speaker 10: the First Department or Department of War I guess they
Speaker 10: call it now, does do a better job of flushing
Speaker 10: out the fact that this is an armed conflict and
Speaker 10: actually putting out some policy papers explaining why we're there.
Speaker 10: That is the kind of thing that does trigger and
Speaker 10: change the rules of engagement legally. I mean, right now,
Speaker 10: you know, I guess the argument that a Senator Kelly
Speaker 10: has is, well, it's not really a war, so there
Speaker 10: really are no of the military style rules of engagement
Speaker 10: going on, so any person who's killed is being murdered.
Speaker 10: I don't know that that's really the case, but I
Speaker 10: do know that the Trump folks, I think, need to
Speaker 10: get a better paper justification out for what we're doing
Speaker 10: in the Caribbean. I do think there's likely some precedent
Speaker 10: for what they're doing, but I don't know that they've
Speaker 10: really stated that publicly in the way that they need
Speaker 10: to to define it as an armed conflict. But all
Speaker 10: that being said, I just don't see usual court martials
Speaker 10: being referred for these sailors or I guess they're Coast
Speaker 10: Guard members. I'm not sure exactly who is actually doing the.
Speaker 4: Fire ivy sealed tamer in its Navy pilots and Seal
Speaker 4: Team members, so.
Speaker 10: Well, and yeah, and that's if that's the case, then
Speaker 10: the good luck convincing their commanding officer if you refer
Speaker 10: them for court martial, because.
Speaker 5: That's how this starts.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, it's a little different than the
Speaker 10: civilian system that you're commanding officer that you work with
Speaker 10: every day that refers you for a court martial, that
Speaker 10: says that you're out of line. I mean, they go
Speaker 10: and they involved the JAG lawyers, but it ultimately boils
Speaker 10: down to the chain of command. So good luck to that.
Speaker 1: The last time America declared war was nineteen forty one,
Speaker 1: so it's been it's been about what eighty four years,
Speaker 1: been a while, and so all the military actions since
Speaker 1: nineteen forty one have not been under a declaration of war.
Speaker 1: Does it since you're a military or been a military
Speaker 1: attorney who taught subjects, does it make a difference to
Speaker 1: the Seal Team or to naval pilots of which Senator
Speaker 1: Kelly was one, whether a declaration of war has been
Speaker 1: declared or simply another military action. We've had hundreds of
Speaker 1: military actions in the last eighty four years. Does that
Speaker 1: make a difference.
Speaker 5: It really doesn't.
Speaker 10: I mean the term is armed conflict that they use now,
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, we had we you know, we
Speaker 10: had you know we Actually you're right, we haven't had
Speaker 10: a war declared since World War Two. But then we
Speaker 10: had the Korea Police Action and they kind of gave
Speaker 10: up on those terms. We were in Vietnam for god
Speaker 10: knows how many years without a declaration of war.
Speaker 5: Likewise, in Iraq, in.
Speaker 10: Afghanistan, under the Geneva Conventions and under our you know,
Speaker 10: internal rules of engagement, the term is armed conflict. We
Speaker 10: have to show that the individuals that that you're you're
Speaker 10: engaging with are capable of either returning fire or are
Speaker 10: engaged in some sort of terrorist type activity like the
Speaker 10: urban terrorism we saw, you know, in Iraq. So it
Speaker 10: really we don't need a declaration of war to trigger
Speaker 10: these rules in these rules of engagement.
Speaker 1: Now, the flip side of this, I'm listening to Senator
Speaker 1: of Gegos of Arizona about a week ago, and he
Speaker 1: put out the missive that guess what, at some point
Speaker 1: soon I guess three years from now, maybe hopefully at
Speaker 1: seven years from now, but maybe as soon as three
Speaker 1: years from now. The Congress is going to change, the
Speaker 1: presidency may change, the Senate's going to change. And the senator,
Speaker 1: the good senator from Arizona, said, you know, what we're
Speaker 1: going to do is go after those who gave these
Speaker 1: who followed illegal orders. That I guess the naval pilots.
Speaker 1: I guess Pete Hegseth, I guess Donald Trump, maybe jd Vance.
Speaker 1: Senator Diego said, guess what. Right now, it may be
Speaker 1: non prosecutable, but when we take over, we're going to
Speaker 1: prosecute the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of War.
Speaker 1: We're going to go after the pilots themselves for following
Speaker 1: an illegal order. Since you've been in the military as
Speaker 1: far as Geneva Convention, how would that look like if
Speaker 1: five years from now the president's different and they go
Speaker 1: after the naval aviator who lit up those cocaine boats,
Speaker 1: what would that look like?
Speaker 10: Well, it would it will be a very sad day
Speaker 10: for the country, and it would really be undermining the
Speaker 10: rule of law. I mean, there is sort of this
Speaker 10: weird attenuated process whereby the Senate I guess, could could
Speaker 10: through its oversight capabilities ultimately have hearings in refer individual
Speaker 10: service members for prosecution in the federal court system. But
Speaker 10: that's something that I don't know that has occurred ever.
Speaker 10: I mean, even back in the time of the Myli massacre.
Speaker 10: I think there's always been a deference to an allowance
Speaker 10: for the military justice system to take precedent because there's
Speaker 10: just this, I mean, just the bottom line is that
Speaker 10: really only other military personnel could put themselves in the
Speaker 10: shoes of the individual who is being court martialed and
Speaker 10: being charged, and there's some deference that comes with that.
Speaker 10: There's some common sense in that, and I mean we've
Speaker 10: had this court martial system pretty much for as long
Speaker 10: as as we've had a military, even going back to
Speaker 10: revolutionary war days. So I mean, look, there is a
Speaker 10: theoretical way that that could occur, but it hasn't occurred
Speaker 10: in our system before, and I think it would really
Speaker 10: really undermine military morale. I mean, if there is this
Speaker 10: idea that you're going to take individual soldiers who were
Speaker 10: following what appeared to be lawful orders and because now
Speaker 10: the elected officials later I disagree with the policy behind
Speaker 10: those decisions, that you're going to pull them out of
Speaker 10: the military justice system and try to force them into
Speaker 10: the federal criminal system.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that.
Speaker 10: Would destroy morale, It would undermine what we have built
Speaker 10: over the last two hundred and thirty four years in
Speaker 10: terms of a military justice system, and it will be
Speaker 10: a very very bad day for everybody involved. If they
Speaker 10: don't like it, then they need to, you know, they
Speaker 10: need to in some way or another make their political
Speaker 10: arguments about what's going to happen here, rather than try
Speaker 10: to go after the service members who were really just
Speaker 10: trying to do their job.
Speaker 4: For what I can tell, yeah, Steve goodin military type attorney,
Speaker 4: the Trump administration wants to go after our Senator Mark
Speaker 4: Kelly to put them back in the military. I think
Speaker 4: he's fully retired now and court martial him for what
Speaker 4: he said on the video.
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say what he and the other
Speaker 1: four Democrats said on the video itself is black letter law,
Speaker 1: which is you don't have to follow in illegal order.
Speaker 4: But that wasn't their intent.
Speaker 1: What would you describe as their real intents other than
Speaker 1: telling the military what it already knows.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I've watched that video at three or
Speaker 10: four times trying to discern whether or not there is
Speaker 10: something court martial abole if that's a word in the video,
Speaker 10: and my opinion is just my opinion, is.
Speaker 3: It truly not.
Speaker 10: I think they were being very cute in what they did.
Speaker 10: They were clearly making an effort. Kelly and all the
Speaker 10: other people on the video were clearly trying to tell
Speaker 10: send a message of political message to troops that they should,
Speaker 10: in some way or another not follow along with the policy,
Speaker 10: either whether it be in d C or an urban
Speaker 10: deployments or in the Caribbean going after these drug places.
Speaker 10: But they don't specifically tell them which orders they feel
Speaker 10: are unlawful. And it's that lack of specificity that I
Speaker 10: think probably keeps them from being returned to active duty
Speaker 10: in court martial. A lot of folks don't notice, but
Speaker 10: you know, when you are retired, you can be return
Speaker 10: actually was involved in the case of where this happened,
Speaker 10: where you can be brought back onto active duty in
Speaker 10: court martialed if they find that you did something while
Speaker 10: you're on active duty that was actionable, or whether you're
Speaker 10: doing something to affect morale and so forth.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 10: So it was very clear to me watching that video
Speaker 10: that they that it had been. The words were very lawyered,
Speaker 10: very Bill Clinton esque, where you know, they're kind of
Speaker 10: they kind of cut through this middle ground where they
Speaker 10: go right to the line of saying, you know, of
Speaker 10: urging soldiers and sailors not to engage in certain activities.
Speaker 5: But then they pulled act. They speak in generality.
Speaker 10: So I don't think there's going to be a successful
Speaker 10: court martial there of Senator Kelly or any of these
Speaker 10: other folks. I think that's also kind of political theater
Speaker 10: at this point, but it is very distasteful. It is bad,
Speaker 10: and I think everyone's got a right to call these
Speaker 10: guys out because they are going right up to the
Speaker 10: line of telling troops not to obey.
Speaker 5: Their commanding officers.
Speaker 10: And that is a very strange place to be, particularly
Speaker 10: for elected officials, and particularly people like Senator Kelly who
Speaker 10: have national profiles and who have kind of gotten themselves
Speaker 10: into the Senate largely because of their military credentials. It's
Speaker 10: a very strange place to be. Again, they're they're trying
Speaker 10: to thrust individual members of our military into these big
Speaker 10: public policy decisions that is to be hashed out in
Speaker 10: DC and at the Pentagon and in the Senate and
Speaker 10: in the White House. It's not to be hashed out
Speaker 10: on individual military basis.
Speaker 5: Chips.
Speaker 1: You know, Steve Gooden, I could see B two pilot saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't think dropping those the mothers
Speaker 1: of all bombs, those bunk or buster bombs and nuclear sights.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do that. And I think it's a bad policy to
Speaker 1: blow up these drug runners. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: Or if the next time we have something at Heaven's
Speaker 1: Gate as I call it in Cobble and there's thirteen
Speaker 1: American Service personnel about to be blown up, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, someone says, you know what, I'm leaving this.
Speaker 1: This is too dangerous for me. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in this Foxhoul. I'm getting the hell out of here.
Speaker 1: That's illegal, It's unlawful to do that. Wouldn't that so
Speaker 1: absolute chaos in the military, which is what the Democrats intend,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 10: I mean, look, these issues have been legislated and litigated
Speaker 10: to hell and back over the past one hundred and
Speaker 10: fifty years or so, so I mean, really, the way
Speaker 10: it works is if you disagree with if you were
Speaker 10: in the military service. If you've been drafted previously or
Speaker 10: enlisted now and you truly disagree with the policy and
Speaker 10: the war or whatever armed action is being undertaken, you
Speaker 10: have two two options.
Speaker 5: One is you can get out.
Speaker 10: Most of the time, we'll have a what they call
Speaker 10: a chapter proceeding and they'll let you go. Second, if
Speaker 10: you're still on active duty and they can't let you
Speaker 10: go for whatever reason, you can argue that you're a
Speaker 10: conscientious subjector and there's a procedure for that, and they
Speaker 10: try to figure out whether you have some sort of uh,
Speaker 10: you know, religious belief or or other belief that would
Speaker 10: entitle you to some sort of conscientior or conscientious objector status.
Speaker 10: But other than that, sorry, you don't get to you know,
Speaker 10: there's you know, there's almost two million people at the
Speaker 10: different bridges of the military right now. We can't have
Speaker 10: two million different takes on the policy behind it. If
Speaker 10: you're in the military, you have to obey orders. That's
Speaker 10: the whole point of it. And UH and just and
Speaker 10: even even you know, four star generals at the at
Speaker 10: the end of the day have to obey what the
Speaker 10: Secretary of Defense and the UH and the and the
Speaker 10: and the Commander in chief and our other leaders, civilian
Speaker 10: elected leaders tell them to do. There are many times,
Speaker 10: particularly saw this during Iraq and a game stand where
Speaker 10: there's different parts of the war where clearly there were
Speaker 10: disagreements among the higher ranking generals. But at the end
Speaker 10: of the day, you know, we have civilian control of
Speaker 10: the military. It's a top down organization. It has to
Speaker 10: be a top down organization in order for it to work.
Speaker 10: And the orders are given and they have to be followed.
Speaker 10: So unless you fall into one of these specialized like
Speaker 10: conscience subjective kind of statuses, it doesn't matter. And we
Speaker 10: can't have you know, two million plus different different takes
Speaker 10: on things. No one's really interested in your opinion when
Speaker 10: you're in the military.
Speaker 1: A JAG attorney, former JAG attorney, Steve good and we
Speaker 1: have to run. But the military is stainless characters, and
Speaker 1: the Democrats want to sew the idea of insurrection. If
Speaker 1: someone would say I'm not following that order, sir, they'd
Speaker 1: be on CNN first thing in the morning. But Steve goodin,
Speaker 1: once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Steve, you're a great American. Thank you, Thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: take care.
Speaker 4: God bless you always continue with more. There you have it.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham on seven hundred wlwh Bengals.
Speaker 11: What an adjustment to the ball by Hudson And do
Speaker 11: you knock sober the back right pilot for a fourteen
Speaker 11: yard touchdown Joe Burrows first since returning from the toe injury.
Speaker 4: Hello, Wyett, I'm spoke.
Speaker 3: I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: God saying rock I have the five games right here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold it.
Speaker 4: Results not yet, of course, I'm listening and watching them
Speaker 4: get it against the Ravens, and I'm angry.
Speaker 1: At the end of the game. I'm thinking, where was
Speaker 1: that team all year? Why can't they do that on
Speaker 1: a regular basis like a champion team would do, could do,
Speaker 1: should do? Like the forty nine ers did it for years.
Speaker 1: So Joe Montana or Pittsburgh did it for years? Uh,
Speaker 1: just Ben Roethlisberger picked the team. Tom Brady did it
Speaker 1: for years. That team dominated the Ray and I was unhappy.
Speaker 1: Can I understand my psychologically what I go through?
Speaker 9: No, yes, I understand, but again, not taking anything away
Speaker 9: from the wind. But Baltimore turned the ball over five times.
Speaker 9: Some of that because of what the Bengals did, but
Speaker 9: five times Lamar Jackson doesn't look good. It looks like
Speaker 9: Michael Jackson. Yeah, set the Lamar.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know are they going to do anything. Most importantly,
Speaker 4: everything went all right with you at the Palacial Estate
Speaker 4: and thunder getting correct.
Speaker 6: We had.
Speaker 4: Nobody, no injuries, no hospitalization or nothing. Everywhere well.
Speaker 1: We had the manes were done by four, the ladies
Speaker 1: going nuts. Then they come up ed Reddin's Fine Meats.
Speaker 1: They catered the whole thing, came in with the turkey
Speaker 1: and mashed potatoes to the dressing some of the ladies,
Speaker 1: and we had twenty two people and it all went
Speaker 1: very well, no issues. In fact, they stayed around and
Speaker 1: watched the Bengals game. What about the reef, it's lit
Speaker 1: and it's up. Stayed up about eleven o'clock on Thanksgiving, noight.
Speaker 1: I went upstairs, put my pajamas on, in my uh
Speaker 1: in my house coat, and came down and my pj's
Speaker 1: on and said, everybody, it's time to go.
Speaker 4: That that one that looks like Hefner right there. Are
Speaker 4: you ready?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: Go?
Speaker 1: First matchup was Green Bay and the Lions. The Rockhead
Speaker 1: green Bay win seg had the Lions. Willie had the Lions.
Speaker 1: Give you plus one right there. Second game is Kansas
Speaker 1: City in Dallas. The Rockhead Kansas City seg had Dallas, yay.
Speaker 4: I had Kansas City. Yay.
Speaker 1: There's one for me, one one zero. Third game Baltimore
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. Rock Baltimore seg Cincinnati, baby Willie Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe. I believe he said, like Baltimore Baltimore already.
Speaker 1: Then we had the Bears in the Phillies, not the Phillies,
Speaker 1: but the Eagles. Are you ready, yes, Rockhead, the Bears
Speaker 1: seghead Philly. Willie had the Bears. So right now it's
Speaker 1: the rock has two. Seg has two and I have two.
Speaker 1: Now we go to the tie breaker.
Speaker 4: St X v. Middletown. We go, but we gave.
Speaker 1: You ten points controversial.
Speaker 4: Would you agree?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, Rockhead Saint X minus ten, Seghead Middies plus ten.
Speaker 1: I had Saint X Bingo bongo bango three three two.
Speaker 1: You lose hot Foot Sunny to each of us along
Speaker 1: with North Carolina is going to win seven games seven games?
Speaker 4: Are you paid off the they you owe me one
Speaker 4: that that you paid that off? I did because you
Speaker 4: bet me on molar and you bet me on another
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 9: He still owe me one for for the net result
Speaker 9: of those two games plus one on this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you sound like betting Joe Dieters. I'll never get
Speaker 4: paid from him either. I owed you something from somewhere
Speaker 4: before that. What you're saying and say, how do how
Speaker 4: do I beat you consistently? But I direct you picked Moler.
Speaker 4: I picked X and they're big matchup. So yeah, he
Speaker 4: seems to forget these things. Yeah, we won once again,
Speaker 4: but we don't get paid. That. That was your same.
Speaker 4: I met like two sundays here. I know, we'll leave
Speaker 4: a hot fud Sunday in the studio to you get
Speaker 4: back next week.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play golf for final. It'll just melt.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hit the ball in Naples. They're angry,
Speaker 1: high temperatures early seventy eight. I said, guys, I'll be
Speaker 1: there to seventy tough. I'll be there tonight. What's the
Speaker 1: big issue around the club? I remember a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago was like that. The custard, like when you
Speaker 1: wanted chocolate, a little bit of a nello would hang over,
Speaker 1: and this was a huge problem. What are the big
Speaker 1: issues facing the country club these days. It is the
Speaker 1: alligator still at your door. There's a big alligator down
Speaker 1: there called Big Owl. Do you want to leave big
Speaker 1: Al alone?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: I used to walk at night through the to the
Speaker 1: golf course. Guess what I don't walk at night through
Speaker 1: the golf course Big Owl. But we have many issues
Speaker 1: at Port Royal and the Paul New issues.
Speaker 4: Yes, where are they? What black topping the driveways. There's
Speaker 4: a couple of women when they cut the grass and
Speaker 4: the liver where the grass savings get something instead of
Speaker 4: a quarter? Bob co Opp knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, there are some women that walk into the dining
Speaker 1: room with a certain kind of a heel and they
Speaker 1: click when they hit the floor the porcelain tile, click
Speaker 1: click click, And some of the diners.
Speaker 4: Be tough on the rock must be how do you
Speaker 4: deal with these? Some of the diners are saying is
Speaker 4: disrupting the mood. That's like the sound of pickleball letting
Speaker 4: people up. I'm going, well right, Pennies like the oversea
Speaker 4: everything he's in charge of bears, so she's gonna get
Speaker 4: on the ladies that were the wooden heels she.
Speaker 1: Said, we're not going to address this issue. Another complaint
Speaker 1: from a member apparently my shrimp flombay, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden here.
Speaker 4: Clink clink, click, clink, clink, click click, And.
Speaker 1: So there's a motion of the next board meeting to
Speaker 1: bar women from wearing heels that calls noises.
Speaker 4: Is that a problem? Big one, many bigger ones. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we got great, we got Ukraine and Russia and and
Speaker 4: and you with the shoes at the pall.
Speaker 9: That's a bigger problem than Ole Miss has. Right now,
Speaker 9: what would you do?
Speaker 5: It is late.
Speaker 1: I watched this morning steven a and and Paul. They
Speaker 1: went out at hard and the issue on one side
Speaker 1: of the table is he recruited every player, he hired
Speaker 1: every coach six years at Old Miss.
Speaker 9: He got them to places they never ever, ever would
Speaker 9: have been since nineteen sixty. I don't recall what happened
Speaker 9: with Johnny Pother or somebody anyway, And now he's leaving
Speaker 9: for like eighty million dollars instead of I guess the
Speaker 9: Old Miss said we'll match it, and he said no.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So it's not the money, because yes, they would have
Speaker 9: matched it. It's the fact that is a popular opinion
Speaker 9: and somewhat justified that if you want to win a
Speaker 9: national championship, if you're Lane Kiffing, you have all the money,
Speaker 9: you got all that, but you want to go down
Speaker 9: history is winning a national title.
Speaker 4: The popular opinion is.
Speaker 9: There's about four or five schools that you can really
Speaker 9: do that at LSU's one of them.
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is not historically. Now, Brian Kelly win a
Speaker 1: national that's your guy from Notre Dame.
Speaker 9: I know, yeah, I would argue that. Okay, I understand
Speaker 9: that five years ago. But now, with nil and the
Speaker 9: movement of the players, I think you can build Old
Speaker 9: Miss into a roster because all they care about is
Speaker 9: the money and I having.
Speaker 4: A great coach.
Speaker 9: I mean, who get the top offensive players, you know, quarterbacks,
Speaker 9: receivers in the country.
Speaker 4: Everything here in Oxford?
Speaker 9: I would if I had taken a visit to Oxford,
Speaker 9: I would have second guessed my college choice.
Speaker 1: What's better about Oxford, Mississippi than Oxford, Ohio, asked Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: Is Jordan Hudson from there?
Speaker 6: Not?
Speaker 9: Well, but there's got a lot of a lot of
Speaker 9: girls that look like Jordan Hudson, a lot of twelves
Speaker 9: running around there.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just gonna say. It's gonna tell you there's
Speaker 4: nothing Baton Rouge. There's none in South Bend. We know that.
Speaker 9: But if you if you go to Ole Miss like
Speaker 9: it's an isolated campus.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like almost like.
Speaker 9: Miami Oxford, where it's kind of like it's separate, it's away,
Speaker 9: it's it's kind of your own.
Speaker 4: Little kingdom there.
Speaker 9: It's beautiful, it's warm, beautiful people everywhere, the LSU.
Speaker 4: It's like a place. But yeah, you're kind of dealing
Speaker 4: with what.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just doesn't seem as likely beautif. But again, they
Speaker 4: have the money. What about the click click click in
Speaker 4: the dining room. I mean, somebody on top of that.
Speaker 1: I told you better get on top of that. We
Speaker 1: can't have that. How about Kentucky fire Mark Stoops.
Speaker 9: That is dumb because they fire him now they only
Speaker 9: might think thirty thirty seven million, and they do it
Speaker 9: at the end. Here, there's no good candidates out there anymore.
Speaker 9: I know they hired who they hired, the guy from Morgan.
Speaker 4: How about Chuck Martin. I mean you didn't know about
Speaker 4: Chuck Martin. Chuck Martin should should be considered like that.
Speaker 4: And I explained this to you off here. Everyone's looking
Speaker 4: for the.
Speaker 9: Next hot like you know, offensive coordinator, young guy, this
Speaker 9: and that. Give me somebody that consistently wins, year after year,
Speaker 9: through ups and downs, consistently wins.
Speaker 1: That's what Chuck Martin does. The quarterback walked off the
Speaker 1: team two weeks ago. What he kept blinding? I know
Speaker 1: I would dominate Kentucky. Why don't they want what you
Speaker 1: tell you?
Speaker 4: It's the Kurt Signetti model Indiana.
Speaker 9: Instead of trying to find some guy that calls great
Speaker 9: plays and he's young and he's their five and all that,
Speaker 9: how about hire a guy that every place he's been
Speaker 9: winner like Signetti, he wins I U p U I
Speaker 9: where else he was some dto schools, he just wins, wins.
Speaker 9: When Chuck Martin's that mount wins. Chuck Martin not to
Speaker 9: go to Kentucky. He should well, they already hired someone.
Speaker 9: But it just seems stupid. It doesn't look like a
Speaker 9: college football coach. Chuck Martin looks like a high school
Speaker 9: football coach. Signetti doesn't look like. It doesn't look like
Speaker 9: Lane Kiffin, doesn't look like.
Speaker 4: Does it matter? That shouldn't matter what you win.
Speaker 9: But the problem is is you know, you're dealing with
Speaker 9: a fam The presidents of these schools and athletic directors,
Speaker 9: they're so scared to make a big time choice where
Speaker 9: you got to like put your you know what's on
Speaker 9: the line because they care about, Oh, what's the fans
Speaker 9: gonna think?
Speaker 4: Who cares with a fan?
Speaker 9: Go with your gut. Go with a guy who wins
Speaker 9: football games? How about that area? Anywhere everywhere he's been,
Speaker 9: whatever level, does he win consistently? Does he turned programs around?
Speaker 9: That's who I would hire Chuck. I would prioritize that
Speaker 9: over the guy who's the best play caller, has this
Speaker 9: some crazy unique offense.
Speaker 4: Everybody has that some sports and make it fast?
Speaker 5: Will he?
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Speaker 4: They've won three in a row and they're one. One
Speaker 4: main guy is Deor Johnson. He's pouring in about thirty
Speaker 4: points a game and Zager's playing Saint Francis.
Speaker 5: Of a c C.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that guy's charitable. Do you blame Lane Kiffin or
Speaker 9: do you blame the system?
Speaker 4: This system? The system. The system's got to be changed.
Speaker 9: Lane Kiffen deserves some level of blame for out but
Speaker 9: the system is gotta change.
Speaker 4: It's got a change.
Speaker 9: You can't in the NFL, you can't A coach can't
Speaker 9: leave and go to another team.
Speaker 4: In the middle of the season. In the season, why
Speaker 4: not wait until February till things.
Speaker 9: There needs to be a head person overseeing all of
Speaker 9: college football because right if you're Greg Sank, you're the
Speaker 9: commissioner of the SEC. All you care about is the SEC.
Speaker 9: You'll give a damn what happens with the Big Ten
Speaker 9: as long as you're branding the money and you're on top.
Speaker 9: You want the rules and the regulations designed to help
Speaker 9: you be the best, so that if someone needs to
Speaker 9: be over top of all of them saying, Okay, this
Speaker 9: may not be the best for u SEC, but it's
Speaker 9: best for all of college football, and everybody wins, everyone
Speaker 9: gets paid.
Speaker 4: That's what needs to happen.
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