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Speaker 1: get ready for the storm tonight and tomorrow. But until then,

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Speaker 1: the Vivek Ramaswami is running for the governorship of the

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Speaker 1: They got to be kidding me. But Vivek is in

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Speaker 1: is open to the public of the University of Cincinnati tonight.

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Speaker 1: Viveke Ramaswami, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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Speaker 1: first of all, do you really believe that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are going to put up Amy Acting against you? I mean,

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Speaker 1: isn't that a stalking horse for someone else? She cannot

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's their choice, it's their party, and they

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Speaker 3: Up their nominee.

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Speaker 2: As you well know, she led the COVID lockdowns, including

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Speaker 2: leading our state to being the first state in the country,

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Speaker 2: Billy to shut down the public schools. And what I

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Speaker 2: think is she owes those kids in apology, those two kids,

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Speaker 2: that's up to them. I'm focus on the positives. We're

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Speaker 3: Excited, Billy.

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Speaker 2: We're doing well on a lot of metrics of the state,

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Speaker 2: including the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: This weekend, if I may say, including Ohio State. We

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Speaker 2: But we want to win off the football field as well,

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Speaker 2: and that's where I'm going to lead us.

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Speaker 1: I would like to thank Shared Brown who said he's

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Speaker 1: not your concern. Secondly, when you bring up education, you

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Speaker 4: Number one, is that true?

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Speaker 1: Number two? How would you find it? Number three? How

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not a policy proposal, Billy, but it is

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Speaker 3: And one of the things I'm doing is I'm traveling.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things we hear from those parents

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Speaker 3: This point really are unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: You think about how many young students are not proficient

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Speaker 2: But I want to bring some standards back to our

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Speaker 2: That puts those kids on a better trajectory for the

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Speaker 2: Man, this is serious, and this is something a governor

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Speaker 2: This is not a job for the US president. This

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Speaker 2: I'm confident that if we start at a young age,

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Speaker 3: For some of those kids'.

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Speaker 2: College education may not be the right path, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring skills based, trade based training into high school.

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Speaker 3: And I say the answer is, you're dark right.

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Speaker 2: We can do both because part of the problem is

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Speaker 1: And during COVID, this wasn't the Dark Age as I

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Speaker 1: By the Trump administration in twenty twenty, which is another issue,

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Speaker 1: She's not going to be the nominee. They're tricking us

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Speaker 1: that won't happen here?

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Speaker 4: That's got me fired up just thinking about our tax

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Speaker 3: I can guarantee you won't happen here, And I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Kim wall is going to call me

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Speaker 3: The reason property.

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Speaker 3: To get right here in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: And I want to be clear, We're already doing so

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Speaker 3: And that's why I'm in this West.

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Speaker 1: Virginia had two National guardsmen shot the murderer from the

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Speaker 2: But to the contrary, I do have a problem with

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we are a people

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Speaker 3: People are going to feel safe walking around in their city.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these activist judges that.

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Speaker 1: And I still don't believe Amy Acton and she's kind

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you Forveke. Good luck to you, God

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Speaker 1: people in the back of the head. We don't do that.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens down the road on that.

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Speaker 1: This is a long line of Democrats in the mainstream

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Speaker 1: media trying to hook something around Trump's neck, whether it's

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Speaker 1: the Russia gate, or the Hunter and Biden laptop, or

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Speaker 1: Arctic US, whatever it might be. It's always looking for

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Speaker 1: some angle, some angle to make Donald Trump look like

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Speaker 1: a criminal and worse and courting the Senator Kelly and others.

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Speaker 1: He were among those who said that war crimes have

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Speaker 1: been committed and that you should say no to the

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Speaker 1: military to an unlawful order. As an order is given,

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Speaker 1: you normally don't have a lot of time to reflect upon.

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Speaker 1: The order is simply you react and do it. If

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Speaker 1: you can't do it, I guess you could be a

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Speaker 1: conscientious objector, or you could say, look I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to follow that order. But then your court martial for

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Speaker 1: not following the order.

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Speaker 4: And so what this.

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Speaker 1: Means is that someone operating and F sixteen or whatever

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Speaker 1: might be called upon to fire upon drug boats determined

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Speaker 1: by the CIA and by all kinds of surveillance regimes.

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Speaker 1: The idea that boat is filled with cocaine, those involved

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Speaker 1: are poisoning the American people, Let's take them out, which

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Speaker 1: is something about seventy five percent of the American people say,

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Speaker 1: let's do that. That's a good idea, yea. And whether

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Speaker 1: there're survivors or not. Pete Hexseth denies it. Trump denies it.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be hearings in a way we go

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Speaker 1: and once again the Democratic narrative about Pete Hecseth, which

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Speaker 1: by the way, he denies the Washington Post story that

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Speaker 1: two anonymous sources say that his instructions were to kill

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Speaker 1: all the drug dealers in some unspecified in legal manner.

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Speaker 1: And they have to put aside for a moment the

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Speaker 1: illegal and the good. It's good to kill drug dealers

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Speaker 1: that are hauling poison to our shores, that kill one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand Americans every year. But this is a hearsay

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Speaker 1: claim of a couple individuals. We don't have the courage

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Speaker 1: to identify themselves. They won't come out and say, yes,

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Speaker 1: I know this happened. This is my name, I work

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Speaker 1: in the Secretary of War's office. This is what we did.

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Speaker 1: And the regime media and the Democratic complex instantly accepted

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Speaker 1: as truthful the anonymous slanders as gospel truth. They said, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that fits what Pete heck' sa eth or Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: or Jade Vance would do. And anonymous claims from anonymous

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Speaker 1: sources are the best claims because you can't defend against them.

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Speaker 1: So the media loves that, which is exactly what the

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Speaker 1: media and what the Democratic Party wants. Is our part

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Speaker 1: of the okie doke that they play on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens down the road. If someone

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Speaker 1: fired upon combatants unable to defend themselves and killed them,

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Speaker 1: that's a problem. And Pete Heck says said he didn't

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Speaker 1: order it. Did some naval aviator do it?

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Speaker 4: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: But now the country is going to be twisting the

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Speaker 1: pretzel like conditions because of concern for the lives of

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Speaker 1: cocaine drug dealers somewhere floating in the Caribbean. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: to me how the media and the Democratic Party are

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Speaker 1: exactly on the same page. They march in lockstep, and

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Speaker 1: the key component of the scams is out. One of

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Speaker 1: the sources said, that's what happened. So that's one thing. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: I think most American families might include it. Likely yours

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Speaker 1: has been touched by mental illness to one degree or another.

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Speaker 1: It is a special burden that many parents carry and

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Speaker 1: many considered a blessing to have an autistic child. And

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Speaker 1: from the day they're born until the day they die,

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Speaker 1: you love them with all your heart. And the circumstances

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Speaker 1: of autism, the causes of it, it might be tailand

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Speaker 1: all talan All denies it. I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 1: confronted with the issue. If I if I ever get pregnant,

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Speaker 1: I'll get into the issue and determine what I should do.

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Speaker 1: Take Talano or not? Does it cause more autism than not?

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Speaker 1: Used to be one in about fifteen hundred babies Aid autism.

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Speaker 1: Now it's down to one and twenty nine. So something's

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 1: I stand with the president on policy. Can I say enough? Drew,

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Speaker 1: my producer jujour policy policy policy. I support the policies

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump and the policies of jade Vans. The

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Speaker 1: policies are a matter, not the words around the policies.

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Speaker 1: So it came out over the last couple of days

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Speaker 1: and again last night on Air Force One in which

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Speaker 1: the President flew from Palm Beach back to Washington, whether

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Speaker 1: or not it was proper for the President to use

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Speaker 1: the R word, and I'll put it in parentheses. Retarded.

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Speaker 1: Put that in parentheses. It's a word I do not

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Speaker 1: use in my personal life. And he said that Tim

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Speaker 1: Waltz was quote retarded quote unquote because of giving billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars to Somali's that somehow the billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: make their way to Somaliland that are being used one

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Speaker 1: way or another to ferment revolution and terrorism in Somalia.

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Speaker 1: There's about one hundred thousand Somalians. That our words should

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Speaker 1: be out of the American dictionary. It should not be

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Speaker 1: used and polite company to describe anybody because it demeans

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Speaker 1: the person identifies that child as somehow part of the other.

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Speaker 1: And I've had mental illness in my family. I think

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Speaker 1: every family directly or in directly has been affected by it,

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Speaker 1: and I have the President of the United States use

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Speaker 1: the R word to describe Governor Tim Waltz handing out

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars in Somali's I think is disgusting.

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Speaker 4: So he was asked last night.

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Speaker 1: And whether or not he wanted to revise and extend

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Speaker 1: his remarks and that Donald Trump said no. Essentially, he

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Speaker 1: said last night, yeah, I think something's wrong with him.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with that. The reporter said, well, sir,

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Speaker 1: it's the use of the I don't want to use

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Speaker 1: that word again, the use of the R word to

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Speaker 1: describe Governor Tim Walls. And then he got on the

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Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars. Maybe it's an age thing.

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Speaker 1: I's almost eighty years old.

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Speaker 4: I get that.

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Speaker 1: But you can't teach an old dog new tricks. There

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Speaker 1: are word is not a word I've used in my

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Speaker 1: private life, personal life.

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Speaker 4: I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: It demeans and for those moms and dads who love

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Speaker 1: deeply their children and work to make sure that their

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Speaker 1: kid have all the opportunities available to other kids. The

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Speaker 1: best of America is reflected when we take kids with

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Speaker 1: special needs and do everything in our power to give

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Speaker 1: them the best life that they can. So when the

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Speaker 1: President uses the R word or says other things, calling

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Speaker 1: a reporter piggy because she was somewhat overweight, to demean

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Speaker 1: and put someone down and that way, it's again off track.

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Speaker 1: And what it does is cause individuals who would otherwise

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Speaker 1: support the president's policies. Can I say the policy is

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Speaker 1: what I support? Can I say policy more often I'm

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Speaker 1: saying policy and stay out of the personal insults, because,

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Speaker 1: for example, in the state of Indiana, they're going through

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Speaker 1: the woes of whether or not to Jerry Manner out

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Speaker 1: one more Democratic seat, and one of the key members

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Speaker 1: of the Indiana States Senate has a child who has autism,

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Speaker 1: and he got so mad at the president and he

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Speaker 1: voted for him, supported him, raised money for him, and

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Speaker 1: donated money to Trump that he says, I'm done working

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Speaker 1: with the guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm done.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to have reapportionment in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 1: And he may want to reconsider that and say a

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Speaker 1: prayer that Donald Trump quits using that kind of foul

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Speaker 1: language described generally innocent, innocent boys and girls who need help.

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Speaker 1: They don't need to be called names by the president

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Speaker 1: of the United States.

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Speaker 4: Can I say that anymore clearly?

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Speaker 1: Can I say I support the policy, the policy and

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Speaker 1: the policy. But to call a female reporter mims piggy,

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Speaker 1: or to say that a governor is using the R

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Speaker 1: word to describe his policy difference. That means the office

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Speaker 1: of the presidency, and it separates from Donald Trump his supporters.

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Speaker 1: I've had more than one attorney get a hold of me,

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Speaker 1: friends of mine who have autistic kids that are so

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Speaker 1: mad they can't see straight, And I get it.

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Speaker 4: It's wrong. He shouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: When given an opportunity last night on Air Force one

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Speaker 1: flying back to DC, the President was given that opportunity

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Speaker 1: to say, well, you know, I disagree with the policy,

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Speaker 1: but my use of that word was wrong, and I apologize.

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Speaker 1: And I can't read exactly what the President said because

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Speaker 1: he again use the R word to describe Governor Tim Waltz,

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Speaker 1: who's clearly not autistic and clearly not he's got a

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Speaker 1: terrible mind when it comes to politics. But to demean

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Speaker 1: him in such a way to me is a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: It's wrong. So I would hope that those close to

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Speaker 1: the president would saddle up next to him and say,

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Speaker 1: mister President, stay on the policies and get rid of

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Speaker 1: the personal insults because it is separating you from your

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Speaker 1: own supporters. Made myself clear on that policy policy. What

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Speaker 1: is the policy? To call someone the R word? To

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Speaker 1: me is disgusting and it's wrong. And I hope the

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Speaker 1: President will revise and extend his remarks and never ever

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Speaker 1: ever use it again and get on with the policies,

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Speaker 1: different disagreements, without the insults that demeans the office and

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Speaker 1: separates his supporters from him.

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Huh so, I hope that's the case. Thirdly, we have

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Speaker 1: the issue which is coming up with MOE of year

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Speaker 1: round school. You just heard the governor to be vivek Ramaswami,

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Speaker 1: and I continue to believe there's no way the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party me so stupid as to put up Amy acting.

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Speaker 1: If she was a new character on the political scene,

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Speaker 1: you could say, okay, who is Amy acting? Well, damn it,

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Speaker 1: we know exactly who Amy acting is. She was the

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Speaker 1: one that shut down the schools. She had a procedures

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Speaker 1: ready to go that would shut down interstate and state highways,

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Speaker 1: shut down the businesses, but keep open the strip clubs,

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Speaker 1: the liquor joints, but shut down so many other businesses.

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Speaker 4: She was the grand architect.

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Speaker 1: Of the closing of our schools and the closing of

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Speaker 1: our society. Held those stupid news conferences in which she

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Speaker 1: put her arms around ohioans. And if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is in more trouble than I think.

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Speaker 1: There ought to be someone to confront for veg Ramaswami

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Speaker 1: on some of his ideas, and he's got more ideas

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Speaker 1: than you can count. One bad idea I think is

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Speaker 1: year round schooling. And some of the best times in

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Speaker 1: my life was raising my son and coaching his teams,

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Speaker 1: basketball and baseball teams, interacting with all of his friends, sleepovers,

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Speaker 1: taking off ten or eleven weeks in the summertime when

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Speaker 1: it's June, July and August it's about ninety five degrees,

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Speaker 1: and let a kid be a kid, get out there.

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Speaker 1: I guess the excuse is so many school districts are

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Speaker 1: bad when it comes to academic performance. So if some

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Speaker 1: kid at Tapped High School can't read, and it's a

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Speaker 1: sixteen year old, that means that you at Mason High

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Speaker 1: School are going to have to have your kid and

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Speaker 1: school year round. It doesn't work. That way in the

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Speaker 1: Sinse summer school used to be for those failing classes.

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Speaker 1: Now some say, and there's one of two states that

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Speaker 1: are going to implement it year round school in which

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Speaker 1: part time, maybe in mornings, you're in school, to take

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks off and then get back to school.

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Speaker 4: I think it's stupid.

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Speaker 1: They have school opening around August the twentieth, and that

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Speaker 1: should be Tuesday Wednesday after Labor Day. Things are a

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Speaker 1: little bit cooler. Summer is over. We keep chopping into

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Speaker 1: a kid's vacation. Let a kid be a kid, go

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Speaker 1: on vacation, plays, do special things, go on long hikes,

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Speaker 1: camp out, go on a family trip out to Utah.

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Speaker 1: Look at the magnificence of the outback in and around Ogden, Utah.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Go to the North and South Dakota wonderful,

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Speaker 1: spend time together. And because other school districts fail, that

657
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you have to be punished. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna work with VeVe Gramaswami to get the teachers

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Speaker 1: more money and they need it, more incentives to enter

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Speaker 1: into teaching, and more money spend in urban districts to

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Speaker 1: bring up the performance of kids that need help because

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Speaker 1: they have dysfunctional homes in which they live. There's five

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Speaker 1: thousand kids at CPS that are homeless. There's five thousand

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Speaker 1: more kids English is the second language that can't participate

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Speaker 1: in school. We got major problems. Forty five forty six

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Speaker 1: percent are chronically absent. We got major problems. They're not

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Speaker 1: solved by telling the kids in Ohio we're going to

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Speaker 1: cut out your summer vacation because other school districts can't

669
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Speaker 1: do their job and kids lose too much over the summertime.

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Speaker 1: The argument is a school ends maybe a week before

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day. By the time school resumes ten days before

672
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Speaker 1: Labor Day, you've lost everything out of your head. It's

673
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Speaker 1: drained out. Well, parents, we did this. I assume you

674
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Speaker 1: did this June, July and August. Have a reading list

675
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Speaker 1: of five books that your kids got to read over

676
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: that maybe a book a week, and then talk about it.

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Speaker 1: If a kid is sufficient in math or whatever, gets

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Speaker 1: special classes for him, but don't require that. Deer Park

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Speaker 1: Community Schools, which by the way, is one of the

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Speaker 1: best in the tri state top ten, and the counter

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Speaker 1: now on and the leadership of Jim Stall and Chris

682
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Speaker 1: Euster that somehow Deer Park Community School has got to

683
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Speaker 1: be punished for its success. No, no, no, no, let's continue.

684
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Speaker 1: After one o'clock today will be the Great Moager to

685
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: talk about the Bengals and so much more. And also

686
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: after two o'clock today will be Steve Gooden breaking down

687
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: what are legal and illegal orders, what is the genie

688
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Speaker 1: of a convention, how does apply etc.

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00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: And we'll see what happens.

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00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: But, mister President, policy, policy, policy, then, and on top

691
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Speaker 1: of that policy, do not call anybody the R word

692
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 1: because you disagree with a policy. It means a whole

693
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Speaker 1: bunch of moms and dads struggling with kids with special needs.

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00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: Even those who support you feel separated from you. And

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00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: that may cost the Indiana congressional seat because unwisely a

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Speaker 1: state senator in Indiana has an autistic child and he's

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Speaker 1: mad at you now and won't vote for the reapportionment.

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Speaker 4: Now, that's stupid.

699
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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, people react emotionally when you attack their children,

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Speaker 1: mister President, and don't do that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: Let's continue.

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Speaker 1: Twelve fifty five The Home of Your Bengals, News Radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WW build Hunting in the Great American White

705
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Speaker 1: Belt is coming later tonight and tomorrow, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens with that. But until then, so much happening

707
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Speaker 1: in sports athletics, A good and bad going to you

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Speaker 1: and on als Moeiger and Moeiger. First of all, I

709
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: need some psychotherapy. If you're ready, let's do it. Put

710
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Speaker 1: me on the couch. I'm looking at the Bengals game

711
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: in Baltimore on Thursday night. I'm seeing a Super Bowl team.

712
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a defense that're causing five turnovers. I'm watching

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00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow left and right and short, and I'm watching

714
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Speaker 1: a hundred yard rusher.

715
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Speaker 4: I'm watching Moneymack.

716
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: He's cashing checks for a million dollars, five or six

717
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: field goals right down the middle, fifty yards, fifty six,

718
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: sixty four yards, ten yards, whatever it is. I'm watching

719
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Speaker 1: a team thrashing Lamar Jackson, not Michael Jackson, but Lamar Jackson,

720
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Speaker 1: thrashing him all around Baltimore Stadium. And I get depressed.

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Speaker 1: And I get depressed because I'm saying, where were these

722
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Speaker 1: guys during the losing when they won one game with

723
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco lost all the other games. So far, Joe

724
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Burrow has played two and a half games this year.

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Speaker 1: Here it is December, and they won both two and

726
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Speaker 1: a half games. He's played the second game. Of course,

727
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: we had Browning coming in. Nonetheless, he won. They won

728
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Speaker 1: the game, and so I'm depressed because I think of

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Speaker 1: all the things that might have been. I saw a

730
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Speaker 1: Bengals team to look like Joe's second or third season

731
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Speaker 1: instead of sixties. And you understand what I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: I get depressed when they win, and I get depressed

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Speaker 1: when they don't win.

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Speaker 4: I'm just depressed. Can you give me some help? Can

735
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Speaker 4: you give me some lithium?

736
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Speaker 5: Can you give me.

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Speaker 4: Some prescriptive drugs? What do I need to get me

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Speaker 4: out of my funk? I don't like to listen to

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Speaker 4: him when they win. I don't like to listen to

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Speaker 4: him when they lose. I get angry. Can you know

741
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Speaker 4: when you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 6: I know what you're saying. Here's the prescription. I would

743
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 6: tell you to study the current plight of the two

744
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Speaker 6: teams in front of the Bengals in the AFC North,

745
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 6: because I'm not sure I trust either of those teams. Now, look,

746
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 6: here's the basic mass of this.

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Speaker 5: Right.

748
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 6: The Bengals are two games behind, two teams. So they've got,

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Speaker 6: in essence, lead frog two teams with five games to go,

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Speaker 6: and they trail both by two. And that's not going

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Speaker 6: to change this weekend because even at the Bengals go

752
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Speaker 6: to Buffalo and win, Baltimore and Pittsburgh play against each other,

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Speaker 6: so the defeston will still be two games with four

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Speaker 6: to go a week from today. But let's talk about

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Speaker 6: the Baltimore Ravens for a second. Did you see an

756
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Speaker 6: MVP caliber quarterback playing for them on Thursday night?

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Speaker 1: The answer to that would be absolutely no, Hell no.

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Speaker 6: Lamart Lamar Jackson has been an awesome player in this

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Speaker 6: league for a while now, he hasn't played awesome this year.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't look one hundred percent. I have no idea why

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00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: they only gave Derek Henry the football ten times in

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Speaker 6: that game, five in the first half. They have been

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Speaker 6: offensively very uneven for a long stretch of time. And

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Speaker 6: so let's look at this from a gambling perpective, because

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Speaker 6: I now you like to make a wager. Way, if

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Speaker 6: you want to invest in the Baltimore Ravens to win

767
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Speaker 6: the AFC North right now, the odds are minus two

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Speaker 6: to sixty.

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Speaker 3: What are you investing in.

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Speaker 6: You're investing in a team that offensively just hasn't hit

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Speaker 6: its stride for the last six seven weeks, that still

772
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Speaker 6: has a pretty tough schedule. They still have to play

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Speaker 6: the Steelers twice. They still have to play the Green

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Speaker 6: Bay Packers. They still have a game against the New

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Speaker 6: England Patriots. Baltimore Ravens are on shaky ground right now.

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Speaker 6: They're just six and six. They have a game against

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati here, a team that they just lost. To talk

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Speaker 6: about the Pittsburgh Steelers also just six and six. They've

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Speaker 6: coalked away a four and one start. Offensively, they look disjointed.

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is old and injured, like legitimately injured. Defensively,

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Speaker 6: they spend a lot of money on that defense. It

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Speaker 6: has failed when presented with opportunities to win games time

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Speaker 6: and again.

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Speaker 5: T J.

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Speaker 6: Watt gets to the quarterback very infrequently for a player

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Speaker 6: of his stature and for what they're paying them. So

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Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Steeler are six and six odds to win

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Speaker 6: the AFC North plus two sixty. Does that look like

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Speaker 6: a team that anybody would be really excited about investing in.

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Speaker 6: Simpers still has the Dolphins at home Miami is playing

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Speaker 6: pretty well. They have to go to Detroit. They do

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Speaker 6: have a game in Cleveland against the Browns, and they

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Speaker 6: have a return match against the Baltimore Ravens. Again, the

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Speaker 6: math for the Bengals isn't great, but here's what is good.

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Speaker 6: They're seventeen and five in December and January games in

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Speaker 6: the regular season since twenty twenty one. If you take

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Speaker 6: away twenty twenty one when they made the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 6: guess what, they're even better fourteen and two. They've won

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Speaker 6: fourteen of their last sixteen December and January regular season games.

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Speaker 6: That includes a three game winning streak with Jake Brown. Now,

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Speaker 6: they also have a track record against the Buffalo Bills.

802
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Speaker 6: It's limited, but it's excellent. Joe Burrow plays great against Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: This team is usually really good down the stretch. They're

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Speaker 6: probably gonna be favored in for their last five. Again,

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Speaker 6: I get it, matth. The odds are not in their favor,

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Speaker 6: which is why you could buy the Bengals win the

807
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Speaker 6: AFC North at plus nine hundred. But I don't know

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Speaker 6: why anybody would look at Baltimore and feel like that

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Speaker 6: they're gonna salt this thing away. Here in the next

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Speaker 6: couple of weeks. And I feel the same way about

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Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Cincinnati is three and one in the division.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna get another crack at the Ravens here. I

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Speaker 6: think there's hope. They have Joe Burrow back. They should

814
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Speaker 6: get T Higgins back this week. Offensively, they're pretty damn healthy,

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Speaker 6: and while I am skeptical that the defense has turned

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Speaker 6: the corner, they certainly have shown some signs, some positive

817
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Speaker 6: signs over the last couple of games. I think if

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Speaker 6: you look at this division, the door is open. Pittsburgh

819
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Speaker 6: had a chance to run away with it, couldn't. Baltimore

820
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Speaker 6: had a chance to put the Bengals away, couldn't. And

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Speaker 6: so the door might not be wide open, but it's

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Speaker 6: at least a jar. And I think they're interesting here

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Speaker 6: as we get set to watch the Bengals play the

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Speaker 6: Bills on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And the Steel Curtain just gave up two hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty nine yards rushing in Pittsburgh undred forty nine yards rushing,

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Speaker 1: which is almost impossible.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's got to win. Why do you like it or not?

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Speaker 1: Ravens look terrible, Pittsburgh looks worse. Bengals are a rising

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Speaker 1: someone has to win and likely Bengals had the tiebreaker,

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Speaker 1: correct if they if they went out, If they went out,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win the division?

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 6: You know, I feel pretty good about that because they

835
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Speaker 6: will have as they went out. And again, that is

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Speaker 6: a major if you're asking a team that has been

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Speaker 6: defensively one of the worst in history to win six

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Speaker 6: consecutive games. But if they do that, they'll have a

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Speaker 6: five to one record against the AC North. They'll have

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Speaker 6: two head to head wins against the Baltimore Ravens. I

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Speaker 6: believe if they get to nine and eight, they win. Now,

842
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 6: can they go to Buffalo and win? Can they beat

843
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Speaker 6: the Ravens here? Can they avoid stubbing their toe on

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Speaker 6: the road against the Miami Dolphins. No. Answers are yes,

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Speaker 6: yes and yes yes. Then I'm not sure the last

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Speaker 6: two weeks it could be set up any easier for

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Speaker 6: them with a home game against the Cargo who are

848
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Speaker 6: not very good, in the home game against Cleveland Browns,

849
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Speaker 6: who are atrocious. Again, I understand the mathematics of this.

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Speaker 6: You need Pittsburgh and Baltimore to split with each other.

851
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Speaker 6: You don't want one to beat the other. One twice,

852
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Speaker 6: but those two teams are five hundred for a reason.

853
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Speaker 6: It feels like both have kind of failed to put

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Speaker 6: the Bengals away. And Joe Burrow is back, my guess

855
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 6: is he's only going to get better. Zach Taylor does

856
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 6: have a very good track record towards the end of

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Speaker 6: the season in the regular season. I think there's legitimate

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Speaker 6: reasons for hope BILLI I absolutely did.

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Speaker 1: In the last three games, the Bengals defense have given

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Speaker 1: up twenty nineteen and fourteen points, which is like fifth

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Speaker 1: or sixth in the league. Something happened to the defense

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Speaker 1: without Trey Henderson. I don't understand the Bengals give up

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and fourteen points on average. They're giving up

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Speaker 1: seventeen points a game, and I like the Bengals chances

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Speaker 1: more than the other ones. Speaking of that, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, you bring it up Scott sad Field,

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Speaker 1: and as I recall, last year, they were five and

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Speaker 1: two then collapsed with five consecutive losses.

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Speaker 4: This year there's.

870
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: Seven and one and then they lose four straight and

871
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: I guess they're going to go to some bowl game

872
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: the day after Christmas. Nobody's gonna want to go to

873
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: that game. How come the Bengals go one direction at

874
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: the end of the season and the Paracuts go another.

875
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Can you explain that one to the American people?

876
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 6: Who's been worse in November? The Democrats in twenty twenty four,

877
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 6: the Republicans in twenty twenty five.

878
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 5: For Scott Sadderfield.

879
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm going with Scott Saderfield becaes that guy. I don't

880
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: know if the longer he coaches each season, the worse

881
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: the team gets.

882
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: Am I right? The more the more they're around him,

883
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 4: the more they lose. Have you noticed this or not?

884
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 6: One and eleven in the month of November ten consecutive

885
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 6: November when November started with calendar flipped. When the calendar

886
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 6: flipped from October to November, the Bearcats were seven to

887
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 6: one and in the thick of the AFC or the

888
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 6: AFC the Big twelve title game race. When the month ended,

889
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: four consecutive losses and while they are Bowl eligible, I

890
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 6: think number one a very similar feeling to last year,

891
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 6: where all the good vibes of the first half of

892
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 6: the season were kind of undone by just an avalanche

893
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 6: of like self inflicted mistakes over the last four games.

894
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 6: Four losses against good teams. The four teams they played

895
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 6: are each going bowling. I think Utah is good BYU's

896
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 6: got a chance to play in the College Football Playoff,

897
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 6: but the Bearcats got in their own way way too often.

898
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 6: And I think the other thing that's troubling about it,

899
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 6: Bill is if you look at the roster, their best

900
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 6: players are all leaving, either because their college eligibility has

901
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 6: expired or they're going to jump to the NFL. And

902
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 6: so I think there's a real sense of opportunity lost

903
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: here because when you have a roster like that where

904
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 6: a lot of the best players are going to you're

905
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 6: supposed to do more than just win seven games while

906
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 6: you have those guys and you know, yes, we have

907
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 6: the transfer portal and nil and you can turn things

908
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 6: around pretty quickly. But I think there's a lot of

909
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 6: uncertainty with the composition of the roster next season.

910
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: I certainly don't.

911
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 6: Think Scott Satterfield is going to be fired, and I

912
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 6: do think relative to where things were when he took over,

913
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 6: it's it's a it's to his credit that this team

914
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 6: has become more competitive in the Big twelve, but I

915
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 6: think it's very fair to wonder can this guy get

916
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 6: them over the hump, especially when he has performed as

917
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 6: poorly or his teams have performed as poorly in the

918
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 6: month of November. That has come to define this program

919
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 6: under Scott Saderfield, right, not necessarily that they always get

920
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 6: off the strong starts, because the team two years ago

921
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 6: or three years ago only won three games, but the

922
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 6: last two years they were in a position to at

923
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 6: least contend for a Big twelve championship, and in both

924
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 6: cases they failed by not winning a game at all

925
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 6: in the month of November. And I don't know what

926
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 6: the answer for that to change is going to be.

927
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 6: And if it doesn't change next year, my guess is

928
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 6: we are talking about something that we're not talking about

929
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 6: right now, which is the University of Cincinnati looking at

930
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 6: a replacement.

931
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: You may not know it, Mo, but one and eleven

932
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: is not good. In fact, you know that's about nine

933
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: percent of wins, and the faithful don't like that. We

934
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: have Andy Mack coming up in about fifteen minutes to

935
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: break down the Crosstown shootout. Later this week. It's going

936
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: to be Miller time. It's going to be Patino time.

937
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: You see, it's going in one direction. You had some

938
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: tweets or x accounts about how bad the bear Cuts

939
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: were the first half of the last game. They were awful.

940
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: They were terrible. They had more turnovers than baskets made.

941
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: Xavier's go in the opposite direction break down the Crosstown

942
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: shootout mo.

943
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 6: Well. I think it has to get Rich of Patino's

944
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 6: team a lot of credit because three weeks ago when

945
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 6: they were run off the floor by Santa Clara, a

946
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 6: lot of folks talk at the skyline Chili Crosstown shootout

947
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 6: the result was going to be inevitable, and I think

948
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 6: as much as a lot of people didn't want to

949
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 6: hear it at the time, they showed some signs in

950
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 6: that loss to Iowa. Played very well in their MTE

951
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 6: with Georgia and West Virginia. They have shot the ball better,

952
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 6: They run good stuff offensively. I think the Bearcats are

953
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 6: still looking for an identity. It will help if they

954
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 6: have Boba Miller back, who is clearly their best player.

955
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 6: Left the Louisville game in the second half, hasn't played since.

956
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 6: We'll see if he goes tonight without him, who's going

957
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 6: to carry the load offensively, Who's gonna get tough buckets

958
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 6: in the tough arena. Who's gonna get buckets when the

959
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 6: Bearcats are trailing in the second half by four and

960
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 6: they need a basket. Who's going to keep the other

961
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 6: team from going on an eight to ten point run.

962
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 6: Who's going to help them get defensive stops? There are

963
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 6: still it's very early December. First, there's still lots of

964
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 6: unknowns about this team. And while I think the ceiling

965
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 6: for the Musketeers is low, it's not an overly talented team.

966
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 6: You can see guys I think kind of evolving into

967
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 6: specific roles. I don't think that's happened with the Bearcats yet,

968
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 6: and so it's going to be interesting. Look, Cincinnati hasn't

969
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 6: wonted the Centa Center in twenty four years. I think

970
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 6: there's a real sense of if not this year one,

971
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 6: are you going to do it now? We said the

972
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 6: same thing two years ago Xavier won that game. I

973
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 6: think the noise is going to be awfully allowed and

974
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 6: the conversations are going to be really interesting if the

975
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 6: Bearcats don't win this one this year. But I think

976
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 6: this game has gone from one that felt like, you

977
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 6: know what, the Bearcats are very likely to win to

978
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 6: one that I think is closer to a fifty to

979
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: fifty game, and that's not something that I think fans

980
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 6: of either team would have entertained three weeks ago.

981
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: Lastly, I had on the governor to be viveg Ramaswami

982
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: from Sandex High School, and he talked about year round schooling.

983
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: It's not a policy prescription yet, he says, he's talking

984
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: to parents and educators and teachers around the state. As

985
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: the father of a little girl, what is your sense

986
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: of year round schooling? Mo, if you were sitting here

987
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: with Avake Ramaswami. I love saying his name because I

988
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: can that. What would you say to avike rama Swami

989
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 1: about year round schooling for your daughter?

990
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 6: If you want me to vote for you, then stop

991
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 6: talking about year round school Why my kid's not going

992
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 6: to school year round? Okay, let's not rob our kids

993
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 6: of summers. Like spending the summer with my kid. I

994
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 6: do everything I can to make sure she's ready to

995
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 6: go when the school year starts in August, which, by

996
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 6: the way, the school year is starting in early August

997
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 6: is stupid. If he really wants my vote, what he'll

998
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 6: say is not only are we not going to have

999
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 6: year round school. We're not going to send the kids

1000
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 6: back to school until after Labor Day.

1001
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: Correct, No, nobody.

1002
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 6: The teachers don't want to do it. Have a hard

1003
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 6: enough time retaining teachers as is. Now, let's take away

1004
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 6: the one character would make anybody want a tea each,

1005
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 6: which is you get ten weeks off. Let's rob these

1006
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: kids up their summers. No, summer is a time for family.

1007
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 6: It's a time for extracurricular activities. It's a time for

1008
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 6: learning things that you don't necessarily learn in the classroom. No.

1009
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 6: If if mister Ramaswami wants me to vote for him,

1010
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 6: then what he'll do is publicly, perhaps on your show,

1011
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 6: renounce his position that we're gonna have a year round school.

1012
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 6: This is the problem with adults. Adul't forget how cool

1013
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 6: it is to.

1014
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: Be a kid.

1015
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 6: Why is it cool to be a kid because you

1016
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 6: get ten freaking weeks off during the summertime. Do not

1017
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: take that away, dude, My kid is not going to school.

1018
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: You could send a.

1019
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 6: Truant officer to my house. I'll homeschooler if I have to.

1020
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 6: She is not sitting in a classroom in the middle

1021
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 6: of July when it's one hundred and five degrees out

1022
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 6: and pools are open. That ain't happening. So tell your

1023
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 6: boy he wants me to go to the ballot box

1024
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 6: and vote for him and not Amy acton. Oh, he

1025
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 6: probably still wants to put a mask in my kid. Yeah,

1026
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 6: you tell your boy he wants me to go to

1027
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 6: the ballot box and vote for him, get rid of

1028
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 6: this year around school conjecture and talk about doing something

1029
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 6: that actually can help people.

1030
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: Well, Mo, I'm with you on this one one hundred percent,

1031
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: because the summertime with my son was the best time,

1032
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: coaching and traveling and doing things together as a family.

1033
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: His argument is, too many kids fall behind in the summertime.

1034
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: They leave as third and fourth graders able to read,

1035
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: They come back two weeks in the middle of August,

1036
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: they can't read. They don't show up. Good parents don't

1037
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: need it. Bad parents do. But I just think the

1038
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: solution to the education crisis and urban areas is not

1039
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: year round schooling, because it'd be more true and see

1040
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: than there is today. Right now, forty five percent of

1041
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: kids in cps are chronically absent anyway, and if it

1042
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: was summertime, that would be ninety five percent, would be

1043
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: chronically absent, so I will work with him to earn

1044
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: your vote.

1045
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 6: Mo how about that, Well, that number is going to

1046
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 6: be one hundred percent of my house because we're not

1047
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 6: wrapping around the fourth of July holiday a bunch of

1048
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 6: homework where you got to get to school after the

1049
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 6: fourth of July holiday?

1050
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no. I'm with you.

1051
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: A thousand plus teachers, underpaid, underappreciated, and overworked.

1052
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: The last thing they want to do is being schooled

1053
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: twelve months a year, even if they're paying a little

1054
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: bit of extra money. That's the good part about being

1055
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: a teachers. You're off for ten weeks and then you

1056
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: got the pension. If you put in thirty years of

1057
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: hard labor, then you get a pension. But nonetheless, to me,

1058
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: it's a good idea, but the implement implementation would be stupid,

1059
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: all right, Moager.

1060
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: The Crocus idea, it's awful. And and by the way,

1061
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 6: if we had the teachers go to school year round,

1062
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 6: guess what more school levies to pay for it. That's

1063
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 6: always a lot of fun. Tell your boy, okay, we

1064
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 6: got a year. Tell your boy wants me to go

1065
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 6: to the ballot box and vote for him. This is

1066
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 6: the issue I care about my kid ain't going to

1067
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 6: school year round.

1068
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: I'll pass it on mo.

1069
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: I like the fire get You have passion when it

1070
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: comes to a bak Ramaswami. Don't have passion about the

1071
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: crossdown shootout. I have passionate about me angry when the

1072
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: Bengals win. You don't have passionate about me thinking the

1073
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: Red's are not going to go anywhere because of the

1074
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: structure of Major League Baseball. Yeah, you don't have passionate

1075
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: about about Lane Kiffin going to LSU, But you have

1076
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: passionate about your daughter not going to school in the

1077
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: fourth of July.

1078
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: And I'm with you in that.

1079
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 7: Mo.

1080
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: I'm getting fired up, and I thank you very much,

1081
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 4: Thank you, Moe.

1082
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 6: I got a lot of passion. I got a lot

1083
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 6: of passionate about Lane Kiffin, idiotic that he thinks he

1084
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 6: could still coach at LSU when he's gone to work

1085
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 6: for a competitor. I got a lot of passion about

1086
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 6: the Reds not Son and kyleis Warber, not because of

1087
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 6: baseball's economics, but because they won't pay him. But yeah,

1088
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 6: you're right. More than anything, I hate it when adults

1089
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 6: take away the childhood of kids. I will not vote for.

1090
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 6: I don't care what party you're from. I will not

1091
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 6: vote for a potential elected official who chooses to take

1092
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 6: the childhood away from my daughter. Tell your boy got

1093
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 6: a here, I'm telling him, come up with something else.

1094
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: I'm telling him. I'm telling him, O, I'm telling him,

1095
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: thank you. Let's continue. Seven hundred wlwave you.

1096
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 7: Wins it the Musky's winning seventy one sixty nine and

1097
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 7: is the usually pancatch my number one in the country,

1098
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 7: Number two him around City seventy one sixty nine, winning

1099
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 7: proud of the triple drive for the left wing.

1100
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: Perry did inside the.

1101
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 7: Pre pro line Husky's winning seventy one sixty nine.

1102
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 6: Over U see incredible Number one goes down on their

1103
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 6: on floor.

1104
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 7: Oh hello, hello, Pyot And I'm spoke.

1105
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: I'm broadcasting you.

1106
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 4: Bony. Think we have Andy Mack in the studio with

1107
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: us to night, Willie, because of the the action coming

1108
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: up Friday night. Friday night, it's all going to be there.

1109
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: And it's been a quarter of a century since you

1110
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: sees one at the Sintas Centers at correct mac quarter

1111
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: of a century, Willie.

1112
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 4: Her grasp book history is right on point.

1113
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 8: It was two thousand and one, Huggs was the UC coach,

1114
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 8: and Fat Mada in his first shootout as a Xavier

1115
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 8: coach the only coach three of them then of Sconda

1116
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 8: to Ohio State.

1117
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: I'm scouted David West.

1118
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 8: Don't give me in this Xavior players sprained his ankle

1119
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 8: early in the ballgame.

1120
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 4: It would have been a completely difficult It would have

1121
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 4: wiped him out. You see, did what win by twenties

1122
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 4: seventy five fifty five?

1123
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: They had a hell of a team. Yeah, but UC's

1124
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: pretty good. But now they've gone on hard times. A

1125
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: week or two ago, the UC faithful told me Moeinger said,

1126
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be a rough year for Xavier.

1127
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: In the sid TOAs center.

1128
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: Now, you see, in the first half of the last

1129
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: game they played, had more fouls than field goals made.

1130
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: So you see is collapsing under the boot of Wes

1131
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: Miller and now Xavier's a rising Give us a breakdown,

1132
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: Mac on Friday night.

1133
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 4: What's going to happen and how that that loss by UC?

1134
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 8: The Eastern Michigan has not been a decent team since

1135
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 8: their nickname was the Hurons, like fifteen years ago before.

1136
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 4: Wolken has said hit. You can't be a year hon

1137
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 4: or a chip Awa anymore.

1138
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 8: I think they're the Eagles now, you know, take five

1139
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 8: talues to coach Eastern Michigan.

1140
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, or was it Detroit. I don't

1141
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: remember a coach Detroit. I know the Detroit.

1142
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1143
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 8: He had a bunch of really good players there. Yeah,

1144
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 8: but he was a terrible coach. He was pretty brullial.

1145
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 4: We only had one high by the way, big.

1146
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: I thought he had two eyes. One was lazy and

1147
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: one was aggressive. I think one is like totally it's gone.

1148
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: He can't see. But break down the game, Mac, because

1149
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: you're here, I mean, we want to hear what's going

1150
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: to happen Friday night. Well, I've done my usual copious preparation.

1151
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: I distilled a little bit because I seldom use any

1152
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: of it when I'm here talking with you, Willie.

1153
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 8: But uh, you know, I've used AI and now to

1154
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 8: analyze all the data. AI segment. You know what AI is,

1155
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 8: Alan Iverson, That's it right there.

1156
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 5: AI.

1157
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 4: He had the ride in the mall in Virginia.

1158
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 8: I thought it was a one sauce a one, AI know,

1159
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 8: a one, But Ken Palm has the great U uh

1160
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 8: fount of all basketball statistics has now reversed his field.

1161
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 8: As both probably referred to, it was Xavier down by

1162
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 8: twelve early when we opened the season. They put the

1163
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 8: initial predictions on Ken Palm, Xavier was going to get

1164
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 8: blown out out of the water. Now Ken Palm, it

1165
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 8: just passed the fifty to fifty Xavier seventy two.

1166
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: U see seventy one, seventy seventy one xt Well, why

1167
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 4: play the game?

1168
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 5: Then?

1169
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 8: As far as I'm concerned, we'll take a W and

1170
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 8: we'll move on to the next.

1171
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 4: The much trouble is Wes Miller in I know you

1172
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: care a lot about UC and I've heard Wes is

1173
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: really a nice guy. Some friends of mine drink with

1174
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: him at Pearls on Eastern Naw, everyone drinks with him.

1175
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 8: The strongest authorities I've ever heard him say is dang dang.

1176
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 8: I think he needs to be a little more demonstrative

1177
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 8: with his players.

1178
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: Maybe, but he may. He may be in practice Dan,

1179
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 4: but I think it.

1180
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 8: Would it would be it would be a good move

1181
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 8: by Wes to get to the NCAA tournament.

1182
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 4: He's O for four now is he's not good? Not good?

1183
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 4: Not good?

1184
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 8: And seeing that the Big twelve will have like eight

1185
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 8: teams in out of fifteen.

1186
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: Pretty good, does your mac.

1187
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 8: They got some some possibilities, but so it went over.

1188
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 8: Xavier certainly would help West he's got one though, he's

1189
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 8: got one. The bear Cat faithful he's got one win, right,

1190
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 8: But that that was that was a problem last year.

1191
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 8: I mean the officiating was terrible. Freemantle missed an open

1192
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 8: three that would have sent.

1193
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 4: It the ot.

1194
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 8: We had him foul to Xavior Blue like a seven

1195
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 8: point lead in the last final War. It's Freemantle doing

1196
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 8: these days. Free Mattle is playing for the l A Clippers.

1197
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 8: I believe at least he might be going up and

1198
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 8: down from the G League.

1199
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: But he gotta need help. The Clippers need help, that's

1200
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: for sure. And also breakdown if you can, Xavier, we're

1201
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna look forward to I know right now. Richard Patino

1202
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: has the boys playing the best they've played, so kind

1203
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: of breakdown Xavier for us.

1204
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 8: Well, Xavior's time pretty well lately, and O Patino had

1205
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 8: nothing I'm the roster and not nothing, I mean nothing,

1206
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 8: he had no play. Roddy Anderson, who was red shirted

1207
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 8: last year, is a really fast point guard. That number

1208
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 8: zero is coming off the bench now, but he's playing

1209
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 8: like twenty four minutes a game. He's super fast. Zeroly

1210
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 8: playing a lot zero Saviors got six pretty solid guys.

1211
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 8: They shoot the three really well. They're not turning the

1212
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 8: ball over much. They melt their free throwsuc which is

1213
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 8: shooting their usual sixty four percent.

1214
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 4: Because the game sold out, I'm sure it is. Yeah,

1215
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: and the students are still there. Thank god.

1216
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 8: They haven't had the exam kids, so they'll be I

1217
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 8: sort of like I want it to be a bubbling

1218
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 8: cauldron of hate right now directed toward I mean, I

1219
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 8: like the bear.

1220
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: Cat John Cunningham, I mean Wes Miller. Who's the hate for, well,

1221
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: just in general, Geral my brother's John Cunningham.

1222
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 8: Really, I didn't know you were related. Yes, he's a

1223
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 8: good dude. I've never thought like him. Was a nice fellow.

1224
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 4: He's got football problems, would you agree?

1225
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: Wow?

1226
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 8: I mean they started so well, what they'd be, they

1227
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 8: would have been like eight and oh, but they gave

1228
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 8: away that Nebraska game too. I guess they couldn't figure

1229
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 8: out that Nebraska was only a two hour drive from

1230
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 8: Kansas City.

1231
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 4: They couldn't get that figured. That means they couldn't fit,

1232
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: but they took the three million.

1233
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: The other thing, I looked at the Zabiers. What about

1234
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: the Xavier women's basketball team? They just lost by sixty

1235
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: six points. How do you lose by sixty six points

1236
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: to Connecticut?

1237
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 8: You know they haven't been Connecticut does the the cattle. Yeah,

1238
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 8: but Xavier's got to be somewhat Competitorcket and you're talking

1239
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 8: all these great stars, but Xavior women's basketball hasn't been

1240
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 8: the same since that guy Chuck whatever his name is,

1241
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 8: of Scott to Ohio State. Him and Melanie Falcon was

1242
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 8: great and the Mark Healing, my good friend, was a terrific.

1243
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: Who coaches Xavier basketball?

1244
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: Now do you know I sixty six points?

1245
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 8: You know the average that's a loss, say average about

1246
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 8: thirty five turnovers a game.

1247
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: Or something thirty five. They have more turnovers than points.

1248
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that like this.

1249
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 4: That's good. Don't get negative on the ladies. Just be factual. Correct.

1250
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: That's bad enough. Say give me into the stud's report.

1251
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: I went back to break Down Fire Mike Tomlin, get

1252
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 1: into that. Plus Lane Kiffin make the Xavier to start

1253
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: the basketball football program. Here you may maybe he's going

1254
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: to be a teacher at the College of Ostia Panthic Medicine.

1255
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm told Lane Kiffin is going to come here. He's

1256
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:14,479
Speaker 1: looking for opportunities, isn't he always? Seventy five million dollars?

1257
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you go for sure?

1258
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 4: I mean everybody has a price, and it would be away.

1259
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 4: What's your price? Seventy five mili from he what's your price?

1260
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,680
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1261
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1262
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1264
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Speaker 4: C Sports. Let's see willye college basketball tonight? Those Xavier

1265
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 4: Musketeers are in action at the Centas Center taking on

1266
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 4: Saint Francis. Saint Francis six point thirty seventy five krc

1267
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 4: DE talk station.

1268
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 8: A one man ten Saint Francis of Pennsylvania, not a

1269
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 8: sea in their same league. They have another Saint Francis

1270
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 8: in New York. That's really very confusing when they play

1271
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 8: each other. If they haven't any radio deals, how the

1272
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 8: radio guy go Saint Francis sixty two Saint Francis six.

1273
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: Sixty sixty two. Who wins Saint Francis? I don't know,

1274
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 4: I guess those Saint Francis. And then the Cincinnati Bearcats

1275
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: are at fifth third Arena tonight, Willy to take on

1276
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 4: Tarleton State out of Texas?

1277
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 5: What's that?

1278
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 4: The Texans are five and three, they've won three in

1279
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 4: a row. They're coached by former Kentucky coach Billy Gillespie.

1280
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 9: Really who out ran Alan Cuttler the cumber the Cutman.

1281
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 4: Remember ran that he ran the ran the Cutman into

1282
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 4: the office that day. What about that? And mac cum

1283
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 4: But Tarlton was like a cigarette brand. But say, are

1284
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 4: they a school or are they like out of Texas? Willy,

1285
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 4: but Saint Francis, how do you beat Saint Francis? Saint

1286
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 4: Francis of ASSISI he was special, right, But Xavier scheduling

1287
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: school they can beat before the crossdown shootout.

1288
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 8: Well, Saint Francis of pa is the three fifty six

1289
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 8: in the NATI sixty five not highly considered, you might say.

1290
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 8: And actually they are defunding or decriminalizing to D three

1291
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 8: next year.

1292
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 4: They're they're going lower. They're going lower.

1293
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, but they've had some great players like Maurice Stokes

1294
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 8: played there.

1295
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 4: It's been about seventy years. Nor Van Leer was one

1296
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 4: of their great about sixty years.

1297
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: Sixty by, after all sixty years spent, being three hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty five ranked is not low enough.

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Speaker 4: They want to go lower. They want to go to

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Speaker 4: D four.

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Speaker 8: They could go Naia or maybe Aau aau.

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Speaker 4: That's a consider about the Villa. I've been there.

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Speaker 8: They've been lost to that team. In nineteen ninety four,

1304
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Speaker 8: in the middle of a blizzard, we get up there

1305
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 8: and the team bus coming back from the shoot around

1306
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 8: went into a snow drift. And Pete Gillen as the coach,

1307
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Speaker 8: it's his final year. He goes, all right, all you

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Speaker 8: scholarship guys, stay on the bus. You walk ons and

1309
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Speaker 8: Mark Smidra who went on to be a Marine Corps

1310
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Speaker 8: full bird colonel and did fingertip push ups at lunch

1311
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Speaker 8: for like Cowers, they pushed the bus out, and Smith

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Speaker 8: is a hero. We had a point guard, Surewin Anderson,

1313
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Speaker 8: who still lives here in Cincinnati, the sixth man. He's

1314
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Speaker 8: a freshman. He forgot his gym shoes. He couldn't play, couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Play, no shoes. He couldn't fire. There were no stores

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01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 4: within Saint Francis. It is not the name of the city.

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Speaker 1: They're in Loretta, Loretta Pa. I used to dad a

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Speaker 1: woman named Loretta. That's a different story.

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Speaker 4: She might have lived there. I don't know. They had

1320
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 4: great line up.

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: This thing about having hair in her armpits that turned

1322
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Speaker 1: me off. Would you agree?

1323
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Speaker 4: It was a little It was a little rough up

1324
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Speaker 4: in Loretta, a little rough.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have razors she had. She was Harry instead

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Speaker 1: of Loretta. I called her Harry.

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Speaker 8: That loss by Xavier cost him an ncaa bit because

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01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 8: they were so low in the RPI.

1329
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: Because of Saint Francis, in the snow drift, players without

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01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: shoes and ugly women.

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Speaker 4: Please continue, Willie, let's see good luck to Anderson. Thursday,

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Speaker 4: they will take on the Avon for the Division Tuesday

1333
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: championship in Canton. Who do you like there? Mac, I

1334
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 4: will take the local team, you know, raptors.

1335
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Speaker 8: Anderson has managed their enrollments, so they're just in Division two.

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 4: That too, they expelled kids. You get too close, they

1337
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 4: expel a bunch of kids out. Get out of here. Saint

1338
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 4: x we'll go up against old and tangy Orange Friday

1339
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 4: for the Division one state champions Agent Orange. Who's no

1340
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: Northern Kentucky teams playing for a state title for the

1341
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 4: first time? What I could gather from first time since

1342
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy eight, no team from Boone, Kenton or Campbell

1343
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 4: County playing for a title. Beechwood got beat. So they're

1344
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 4: playing Agent Orange. Who's sant X playing old and tangy Orange.

1345
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 4: They're very good. That's a Columbus happen. What about that out?

1346
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 4: They're out? They're out?

1347
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: Well, if Anderson gets too many kids, they kick out

1348
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: twenty kids and stay in Division two.

1349
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 4: Want to play X? Kentucky fired football coach Mark Stoops today.

1350
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 4: How much money? Say five and seven season he's owed?

1351
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: He had a contract through twenty thirty one remaining salary.

1352
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: He is a thirty seven and a half Wallian dollars

1353
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 4: for Kentucky football. Correct Mack your reaction.

1354
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 8: They got nipped by Louisville forty one nothing, so that

1355
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Speaker 8: that was the final nail.

1356
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Speaker 4: He's done a good job, done a great job.

1357
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: He gets fired and lose the Louisville by six touchdakes

1358
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: for I mean out the door.

1359
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 4: He's no who's going to hire him? Again are they?

1360
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 4: I think Ryan Kella as Doug Flynn pay him out

1361
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 4: of the Central Bank.

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Speaker 3: He does.

1363
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: Wow, Mick, we got to go. But thanks for coming

1364
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: in to breakdown all the statistics.

1365
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 8: Musky's winning the seventy four to sixty nine the Andy

1366
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 8: mac prediction. But I'm not terribly objective.

1367
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: Write that down on seven hundred WLW.

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01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,479
Speaker 4: By Billy cunning in The Great American this morning.

1369
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: Of many of the talk shows, Senator Mark Kelly, others,

1370
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: who are they are talking about possibly charging Pete heg

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: Seth or Donald Trump once he leaves office with murder

1372
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: and war crimes. Actually incapability of running for reelection twenty

1373
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: twenty eight is not enough. But the allegation the charges

1374
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: might be murder Pete Heckseth, for example, and may be

1375
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: charged by a state, or by the Feds or by

1376
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: the Geneva Convention on a war crime. And this has

1377
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: to do with taking the lives and individuals involved in

1378
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: the international drug cartel trade. And also seemingly there's an

1379
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: allegation that a couple of the drug runners might have

1380
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: lived and we're on a raft and that heck Seth

1381
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: ordered their execution on a raft and Donald Trump was

1382
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: asked that question a few days ago, he said it

1383
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Nonetheless, the allegation is tantamount to proof and

1384
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: the views of the mainstream media. So let's get what

1385
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: the what the framework is. Of course, Steve Gooden has

1386
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: for those who may not know, as an attorney, he's

1387
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: also been in the on the reserve for long periods

1388
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 1: of time. He's also taught courses on the Geneva Convention

1389
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Speaker 1: and Attorney Steve Gooden, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

1390
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: Of all, Steve, tell the American people your credentials when

1391
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: it comes to this area, so we know of what

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: you speak.

1393
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 5: Well, Dave, my pleasure. God.

1394
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 10: So yeah, when I was on active duty as a

1395
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 10: young captain in the JAG Corps during the Iraq War,

1396
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 10: I was down at Fort Bragg with the eighteenthar One

1397
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 10: Corps and I taught the rules of war law, rules

1398
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 10: of engagement, Geneva Conventions to a lot of the deploying troops.

1399
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 10: So you know, I've got some experience studying this, and

1400
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 10: I know that the rules of engagement can be kind

1401
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 10: of difficult to discern, particularly for civilians or folks who've

1402
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 10: never had to had to take a deep dive into that.

1403
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 10: So happy, happy to share with you what I know.

1404
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: All right, So Senator Kelly is making the allegation, which

1405
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: of course is true. What they're all saying is is

1406
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: black letter law. You don't have to follow an illegal order,

1407
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: an unlawful order. In fact, you're required not to follow it.

1408
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: But how do you know it's legal or illegal? How

1409
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: do you know if someone for example, the drone strike

1410
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: that Biden indirectly ordered on a family after the Cabbo

1411
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: massacre of our thirteen soldiers, he ordered a drone strike

1412
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: that killed like twenty family members, including mainly women and children.

1413
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: He said, oh, I'm sorry, it was a mistake, and

1414
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't a big deal at all. But when it

1415
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: comes to two drug runners, in the media's perspective, it's

1416
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: a big deal. So what is a legal order? What's unlawful?

1417
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: During the fog of war? How do you know which

1418
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: is what?

1419
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 10: Well, first, let's have a moment of silence for the

1420
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 10: drug runners. I mean, this is a human I'm kidding.

1421
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 10: That's terrible.

1422
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: That Senator Kelly would like to have you understand that

1423
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: a murder was committed, a war crime was committed, and

1424
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: the victims were two cocaine drug runners out of Venezuela.

1425
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: Let's have a second of silence. That's enough tell us

1426
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: what the answer is.

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01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 10: The answer is this, though it's like, it's actually a

1428
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 10: lot more simple than Senator Kelly seems to want to

1429
01:10:55,479 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 10: make it. I mean absolutely, a soldier, a marine, a

1430
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 10: Navy officer, midshipman, whoever it might be, does have an

1431
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,919
Speaker 10: obligation not to follow an illegal order that is defined

1432
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 10: typically as your superior officer tells you to do something

1433
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 10: like shoot a prisoner or something to that effect. You

1434
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 10: have an obligation under the Geneva Convention to say no,

1435
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 10: you know, that's not how I was taught, that's not

1436
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 10: what we're going to do. But these big issues of policy,

1437
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 10: you have no obligation whatsoever. So I know in the

1438
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 10: past there have been people insinuating that National Guard troops

1439
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 10: who were deployed in DC had some obligation to resist

1440
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 10: under this idea that's an illegal order.

1441
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 5: That's not the case.

1442
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,799
Speaker 10: That's a matter of public policy for the elected officials

1443
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 10: to decide. And so trying to figure out whether or

1444
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 10: not these interdiction actions they're taking down in the Caribbean

1445
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 10: primarily are are actually not part of an armed conflict,

1446
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 10: which is the whole issue.

1447
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,440
Speaker 5: Wheer the Geneva.

1448
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 10: Convention, whether or not an actual armed conflict is going on,

1449
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 10: that is a policy decision well above the end of

1450
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 10: vidual sailors or Coastguard members pay grade. They're not required

1451
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 10: under the law to have to try to figure that out. Now,

1452
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 10: if there are specific orders that are being issued that

1453
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 10: they no violate the Geneva Conventions, like cruelty to prisoners,

1454
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 10: et cetera, that's another matter. But I think that is

1455
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 10: murky at best, and I think this is all just

1456
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 10: a lot of political chess stumping that's going on at

1457
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 10: this point.

1458
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: So if it's a policy matter, soldiers can't involve themselves

1459
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 1: or airmen in that. If it's an order to do something,

1460
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is saying, I am sure that Hexseth did

1461
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: not order two guilty individuals on a raft to be executed.

1462
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: They were like giving up, so in battle, this in

1463
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: a sense is a war. If they give up, raise

1464
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: the white flag, say I surrender. Does that mean they

1465
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: can't be harmed.

1466
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 10: Under the Geneva Convention yes, and under our rules of

1467
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 10: engagement yes. So somebody really did surrender and they fired

1468
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 10: on them and shot at them.

1469
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 5: Then they might have a problem.

1470
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 10: But just the practicality of a court martial, and I've

1471
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 10: done court martials, is that you know, you can bring

1472
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 10: the charges, but typically in my experience, and I only

1473
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 10: did a handful of them down at Fort Bragg, I mean,

1474
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 10: you're entitled what they call a panel, which is a

1475
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 10: jury of your peers, which are soldiers who are of

1476
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 10: your rank or higher, and they tend to there's a

1477
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 10: lot of jury nullification that goes on under those circumstances.

1478
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 10: They tend to give the individual soldier the benefit of

1479
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 10: the doubt in these cases, and it's one of the

1480
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 10: reasons why a lot of them are not brought. So

1481
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 10: you know, yes, you have this, like you know, theoretical

1482
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 10: scenario where you could bring up an individual, you know,

1483
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 10: soldier or sailor on some sort of on a court

1484
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 10: martial for doing something to a surrendering individual, but proving

1485
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 10: that is very, very difficult, and you really don't have

1486
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 10: a prosecuting witness unless, you know, unless there's video, which

1487
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 10: in a lot of cases there is some drove video

1488
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 10: these days, but even that can be in So I

1489
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 10: think this is all in all likelihood much to do

1490
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 10: about nothing. I do think and hope that the Trump

1491
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 10: the First Department or Department of War I guess they

1492
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 10: call it now, does do a better job of flushing

1493
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 10: out the fact that this is an armed conflict and

1494
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 10: actually putting out some policy papers explaining why we're there.

1495
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 10: That is the kind of thing that does trigger and

1496
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 10: change the rules of engagement legally. I mean, right now,

1497
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 10: you know, I guess the argument that a Senator Kelly

1498
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 10: has is, well, it's not really a war, so there

1499
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 10: really are no of the military style rules of engagement

1500
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,879
Speaker 10: going on, so any person who's killed is being murdered.

1501
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 10: I don't know that that's really the case, but I

1502
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 10: do know that the Trump folks, I think, need to

1503
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 10: get a better paper justification out for what we're doing

1504
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,879
Speaker 10: in the Caribbean. I do think there's likely some precedent

1505
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 10: for what they're doing, but I don't know that they've

1506
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 10: really stated that publicly in the way that they need

1507
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 10: to to define it as an armed conflict. But all

1508
01:14:55,479 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 10: that being said, I just don't see usual court martials

1509
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 10: being referred for these sailors or I guess they're Coast

1510
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 10: Guard members. I'm not sure exactly who is actually doing the.

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Speaker 4: Fire ivy sealed tamer in its Navy pilots and Seal

1512
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 4: Team members, so.

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Speaker 10: Well, and yeah, and that's if that's the case, then

1514
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 10: the good luck convincing their commanding officer if you refer

1515
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 10: them for court martial, because.

1516
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 5: That's how this starts.

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01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, it's a little different than the

1518
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 10: civilian system that you're commanding officer that you work with

1519
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 10: every day that refers you for a court martial, that

1520
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 10: says that you're out of line. I mean, they go

1521
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 10: and they involved the JAG lawyers, but it ultimately boils

1522
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 10: down to the chain of command. So good luck to that.

1523
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: The last time America declared war was nineteen forty one,

1524
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: so it's been it's been about what eighty four years,

1525
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: been a while, and so all the military actions since

1526
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: nineteen forty one have not been under a declaration of war.

1527
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: Does it since you're a military or been a military

1528
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: attorney who taught subjects, does it make a difference to

1529
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: the Seal Team or to naval pilots of which Senator

1530
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: Kelly was one, whether a declaration of war has been

1531
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: declared or simply another military action. We've had hundreds of

1532
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: military actions in the last eighty four years. Does that

1533
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: make a difference.

1534
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 5: It really doesn't.

1535
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 10: I mean the term is armed conflict that they use now,

1536
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, we had we you know, we

1537
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 10: had you know we Actually you're right, we haven't had

1538
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 10: a war declared since World War Two. But then we

1539
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 10: had the Korea Police Action and they kind of gave

1540
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 10: up on those terms. We were in Vietnam for god

1541
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 10: knows how many years without a declaration of war.

1542
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 5: Likewise, in Iraq, in.

1543
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 10: Afghanistan, under the Geneva Conventions and under our you know,

1544
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 10: internal rules of engagement, the term is armed conflict. We

1545
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 10: have to show that the individuals that that you're you're

1546
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 10: engaging with are capable of either returning fire or are

1547
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 10: engaged in some sort of terrorist type activity like the

1548
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 10: urban terrorism we saw, you know, in Iraq. So it

1549
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 10: really we don't need a declaration of war to trigger

1550
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 10: these rules in these rules of engagement.

1551
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: Now, the flip side of this, I'm listening to Senator

1552
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: of Gegos of Arizona about a week ago, and he

1553
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: put out the missive that guess what, at some point

1554
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: soon I guess three years from now, maybe hopefully at

1555
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: seven years from now, but maybe as soon as three

1556
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: years from now. The Congress is going to change, the

1557
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: presidency may change, the Senate's going to change. And the senator,

1558
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: the good senator from Arizona, said, you know, what we're

1559
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: going to do is go after those who gave these

1560
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: who followed illegal orders. That I guess the naval pilots.

1561
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: I guess Pete Hegseth, I guess Donald Trump, maybe jd Vance.

1562
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: Senator Diego said, guess what. Right now, it may be

1563
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: non prosecutable, but when we take over, we're going to

1564
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: prosecute the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of War.

1565
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: We're going to go after the pilots themselves for following

1566
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: an illegal order. Since you've been in the military as

1567
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: far as Geneva Convention, how would that look like if

1568
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: five years from now the president's different and they go

1569
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: after the naval aviator who lit up those cocaine boats,

1570
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: what would that look like?

1571
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 10: Well, it would it will be a very sad day

1572
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 10: for the country, and it would really be undermining the

1573
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 10: rule of law. I mean, there is sort of this

1574
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 10: weird attenuated process whereby the Senate I guess, could could

1575
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 10: through its oversight capabilities ultimately have hearings in refer individual

1576
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 10: service members for prosecution in the federal court system. But

1577
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 10: that's something that I don't know that has occurred ever.

1578
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 10: I mean, even back in the time of the Myli massacre.

1579
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 10: I think there's always been a deference to an allowance

1580
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 10: for the military justice system to take precedent because there's

1581
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 10: just this, I mean, just the bottom line is that

1582
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 10: really only other military personnel could put themselves in the

1583
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 10: shoes of the individual who is being court martialed and

1584
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 10: being charged, and there's some deference that comes with that.

1585
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 10: There's some common sense in that, and I mean we've

1586
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 10: had this court martial system pretty much for as long

1587
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 10: as as we've had a military, even going back to

1588
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 10: revolutionary war days. So I mean, look, there is a

1589
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,879
Speaker 10: theoretical way that that could occur, but it hasn't occurred

1590
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 10: in our system before, and I think it would really

1591
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 10: really undermine military morale. I mean, if there is this

1592
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 10: idea that you're going to take individual soldiers who were

1593
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 10: following what appeared to be lawful orders and because now

1594
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 10: the elected officials later I disagree with the policy behind

1595
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 10: those decisions, that you're going to pull them out of

1596
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 10: the military justice system and try to force them into

1597
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 10: the federal criminal system.

1598
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that.

1599
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 10: Would destroy morale, It would undermine what we have built

1600
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 10: over the last two hundred and thirty four years in

1601
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 10: terms of a military justice system, and it will be

1602
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 10: a very very bad day for everybody involved. If they

1603
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 10: don't like it, then they need to, you know, they

1604
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 10: need to in some way or another make their political

1605
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 10: arguments about what's going to happen here, rather than try

1606
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 10: to go after the service members who were really just

1607
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 10: trying to do their job.

1608
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 4: For what I can tell, yeah, Steve goodin military type attorney,

1609
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 4: the Trump administration wants to go after our Senator Mark

1610
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 4: Kelly to put them back in the military. I think

1611
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 4: he's fully retired now and court martial him for what

1612
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 4: he said on the video.

1613
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say what he and the other

1614
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: four Democrats said on the video itself is black letter law,

1615
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: which is you don't have to follow in illegal order.

1616
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 4: But that wasn't their intent.

1617
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: What would you describe as their real intents other than

1618
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: telling the military what it already knows.

1619
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I've watched that video at three or

1620
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 10: four times trying to discern whether or not there is

1621
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 10: something court martial abole if that's a word in the video,

1622
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 10: and my opinion is just my opinion, is.

1623
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 3: It truly not.

1624
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 10: I think they were being very cute in what they did.

1625
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 10: They were clearly making an effort. Kelly and all the

1626
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 10: other people on the video were clearly trying to tell

1627
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 10: send a message of political message to troops that they should,

1628
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 10: in some way or another not follow along with the policy,

1629
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 10: either whether it be in d C or an urban

1630
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 10: deployments or in the Caribbean going after these drug places.

1631
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 10: But they don't specifically tell them which orders they feel

1632
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 10: are unlawful. And it's that lack of specificity that I

1633
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 10: think probably keeps them from being returned to active duty

1634
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 10: in court martial. A lot of folks don't notice, but

1635
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 10: you know, when you are retired, you can be return

1636
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 10: actually was involved in the case of where this happened,

1637
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 10: where you can be brought back onto active duty in

1638
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 10: court martialed if they find that you did something while

1639
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 10: you're on active duty that was actionable, or whether you're

1640
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 10: doing something to affect morale and so forth.

1641
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 5: Here.

1642
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 10: So it was very clear to me watching that video

1643
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 10: that they that it had been. The words were very lawyered,

1644
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 10: very Bill Clinton esque, where you know, they're kind of

1645
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 10: they kind of cut through this middle ground where they

1646
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 10: go right to the line of saying, you know, of

1647
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 10: urging soldiers and sailors not to engage in certain activities.

1648
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,520
Speaker 5: But then they pulled act. They speak in generality.

1649
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 10: So I don't think there's going to be a successful

1650
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 10: court martial there of Senator Kelly or any of these

1651
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 10: other folks. I think that's also kind of political theater

1652
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 10: at this point, but it is very distasteful. It is bad,

1653
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 10: and I think everyone's got a right to call these

1654
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 10: guys out because they are going right up to the

1655
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 10: line of telling troops not to obey.

1656
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: Their commanding officers.

1657
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 10: And that is a very strange place to be, particularly

1658
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 10: for elected officials, and particularly people like Senator Kelly who

1659
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,839
Speaker 10: have national profiles and who have kind of gotten themselves

1660
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 10: into the Senate largely because of their military credentials. It's

1661
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 10: a very strange place to be. Again, they're they're trying

1662
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 10: to thrust individual members of our military into these big

1663
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 10: public policy decisions that is to be hashed out in

1664
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 10: DC and at the Pentagon and in the Senate and

1665
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 10: in the White House. It's not to be hashed out

1666
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 10: on individual military basis.

1667
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 5: Chips.

1668
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: You know, Steve Gooden, I could see B two pilot saying,

1669
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't think dropping those the mothers

1670
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: of all bombs, those bunk or buster bombs and nuclear sights.

1671
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I'm not going to

1672
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: do that. And I think it's a bad policy to

1673
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: blow up these drug runners. I don't want to do that.

1674
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,839
Speaker 1: Or if the next time we have something at Heaven's

1675
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: Gate as I call it in Cobble and there's thirteen

1676
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: American Service personnel about to be blown up, and all

1677
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden, someone says, you know what, I'm leaving this.

1678
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: This is too dangerous for me. I don't want to

1679
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: be in this Foxhoul. I'm getting the hell out of here.

1680
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: That's illegal, It's unlawful to do that. Wouldn't that so

1681
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: absolute chaos in the military, which is what the Democrats intend,

1682
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: of course.

1683
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 10: I mean, look, these issues have been legislated and litigated

1684
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 10: to hell and back over the past one hundred and

1685
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 10: fifty years or so, so I mean, really, the way

1686
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 10: it works is if you disagree with if you were

1687
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 10: in the military service. If you've been drafted previously or

1688
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 10: enlisted now and you truly disagree with the policy and

1689
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 10: the war or whatever armed action is being undertaken, you

1690
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 10: have two two options.

1691
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 5: One is you can get out.

1692
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 10: Most of the time, we'll have a what they call

1693
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 10: a chapter proceeding and they'll let you go. Second, if

1694
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 10: you're still on active duty and they can't let you

1695
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 10: go for whatever reason, you can argue that you're a

1696
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 10: conscientious subjector and there's a procedure for that, and they

1697
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 10: try to figure out whether you have some sort of uh,

1698
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 10: you know, religious belief or or other belief that would

1699
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 10: entitle you to some sort of conscientior or conscientious objector status.

1700
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 10: But other than that, sorry, you don't get to you know,

1701
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 10: there's you know, there's almost two million people at the

1702
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 10: different bridges of the military right now. We can't have

1703
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 10: two million different takes on the policy behind it. If

1704
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 10: you're in the military, you have to obey orders. That's

1705
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 10: the whole point of it. And UH and just and

1706
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 10: even even you know, four star generals at the at

1707
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 10: the end of the day have to obey what the

1708
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 10: Secretary of Defense and the UH and the and the

1709
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,919
Speaker 10: and the Commander in chief and our other leaders, civilian

1710
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 10: elected leaders tell them to do. There are many times,

1711
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 10: particularly saw this during Iraq and a game stand where

1712
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 10: there's different parts of the war where clearly there were

1713
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 10: disagreements among the higher ranking generals. But at the end

1714
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 10: of the day, you know, we have civilian control of

1715
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 10: the military. It's a top down organization. It has to

1716
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 10: be a top down organization in order for it to work.

1717
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,799
Speaker 10: And the orders are given and they have to be followed.

1718
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 10: So unless you fall into one of these specialized like

1719
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 10: conscience subjective kind of statuses, it doesn't matter. And we

1720
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 10: can't have you know, two million plus different different takes

1721
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 10: on things. No one's really interested in your opinion when

1722
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 10: you're in the military.

1723
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: A JAG attorney, former JAG attorney, Steve good and we

1724
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: have to run. But the military is stainless characters, and

1725
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: the Democrats want to sew the idea of insurrection. If

1726
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: someone would say I'm not following that order, sir, they'd

1727
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: be on CNN first thing in the morning. But Steve goodin,

1728
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

1729
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: And Steve, you're a great American. Thank you, Thank you, sir,

1730
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:53,799
Speaker 1: take care.

1731
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 4: God bless you always continue with more. There you have it.

1732
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham on seven hundred wlwh Bengals.

1733
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 11: What an adjustment to the ball by Hudson And do

1734
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 11: you knock sober the back right pilot for a fourteen

1735
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:13,839
Speaker 11: yard touchdown Joe Burrows first since returning from the toe injury.

1736
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 4: Hello, Wyett, I'm spoke.

1737
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 3: I'm broadcasting.

1738
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: God saying rock I have the five games right here.

1739
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold it.

1740
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 4: Results not yet, of course, I'm listening and watching them

1741
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 4: get it against the Ravens, and I'm angry.

1742
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: At the end of the game. I'm thinking, where was

1743
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: that team all year? Why can't they do that on

1744
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: a regular basis like a champion team would do, could do,

1745
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 1: should do? Like the forty nine ers did it for years.

1746
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 1: So Joe Montana or Pittsburgh did it for years? Uh,

1747
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: just Ben Roethlisberger picked the team. Tom Brady did it

1748
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: for years. That team dominated the Ray and I was unhappy.

1749
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: Can I understand my psychologically what I go through?

1750
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 9: No, yes, I understand, but again, not taking anything away

1751
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 9: from the wind. But Baltimore turned the ball over five times.

1752
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 9: Some of that because of what the Bengals did, but

1753
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 9: five times Lamar Jackson doesn't look good. It looks like

1754
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 9: Michael Jackson. Yeah, set the Lamar.

1755
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1756
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 4: I don't know are they going to do anything. Most importantly,

1757
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 4: everything went all right with you at the Palacial Estate

1758
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 4: and thunder getting correct.

1759
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 6: We had.

1760
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 4: Nobody, no injuries, no hospitalization or nothing. Everywhere well.

1761
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: We had the manes were done by four, the ladies

1762
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: going nuts. Then they come up ed Reddin's Fine Meats.

1763
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: They catered the whole thing, came in with the turkey

1764
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 1: and mashed potatoes to the dressing some of the ladies,

1765
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: and we had twenty two people and it all went

1766
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: very well, no issues. In fact, they stayed around and

1767
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: watched the Bengals game. What about the reef, it's lit

1768
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: and it's up. Stayed up about eleven o'clock on Thanksgiving, noight.

1769
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: I went upstairs, put my pajamas on, in my uh

1770
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 1: in my house coat, and came down and my pj's

1771
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: on and said, everybody, it's time to go.

1772
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 4: That that one that looks like Hefner right there. Are

1773
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 4: you ready?

1774
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 5: Yes?

1775
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 6: Go?

1776
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: First matchup was Green Bay and the Lions. The Rockhead

1777
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: green Bay win seg had the Lions. Willie had the Lions.

1778
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 1: Give you plus one right there. Second game is Kansas

1779
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: City in Dallas. The Rockhead Kansas City seg had Dallas, yay.

1780
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 4: I had Kansas City. Yay.

1781
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,520
Speaker 1: There's one for me, one one zero. Third game Baltimore

1782
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. Rock Baltimore seg Cincinnati, baby Willie Baltimore.

1783
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe. I believe he said, like Baltimore Baltimore already.

1784
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 1: Then we had the Bears in the Phillies, not the Phillies,

1785
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 1: but the Eagles. Are you ready, yes, Rockhead, the Bears

1786
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: seghead Philly. Willie had the Bears. So right now it's

1787
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: the rock has two. Seg has two and I have two.

1788
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: Now we go to the tie breaker.

1789
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,839
Speaker 4: St X v. Middletown. We go, but we gave.

1790
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: You ten points controversial.

1791
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 4: Would you agree?

1792
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: Yes, well, Rockhead Saint X minus ten, Seghead Middies plus ten.

1793
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: I had Saint X Bingo bongo bango three three two.

1794
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: You lose hot Foot Sunny to each of us along

1795
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: with North Carolina is going to win seven games seven games?

1796
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Are you paid off the they you owe me one

1797
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 4: that that you paid that off? I did because you

1798
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 4: bet me on molar and you bet me on another

1799
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 4: that one.

1800
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 9: He still owe me one for for the net result

1801
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 9: of those two games plus one on this one.

1802
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you sound like betting Joe Dieters. I'll never get

1803
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 4: paid from him either. I owed you something from somewhere

1804
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 4: before that. What you're saying and say, how do how

1805
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 4: do I beat you consistently? But I direct you picked Moler.

1806
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 4: I picked X and they're big matchup. So yeah, he

1807
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: seems to forget these things. Yeah, we won once again,

1808
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 4: but we don't get paid. That. That was your same.

1809
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 4: I met like two sundays here. I know, we'll leave

1810
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 4: a hot fud Sunday in the studio to you get

1811
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 4: back next week.

1812
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play golf for final. It'll just melt.

1813
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hit the ball in Naples. They're angry,

1814
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: high temperatures early seventy eight. I said, guys, I'll be

1815
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: there to seventy tough. I'll be there tonight. What's the

1816
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: big issue around the club? I remember a couple of

1817
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: years ago was like that. The custard, like when you

1818
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: wanted chocolate, a little bit of a nello would hang over,

1819
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: and this was a huge problem. What are the big

1820
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: issues facing the country club these days. It is the

1821
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: alligator still at your door. There's a big alligator down

1822
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: there called Big Owl. Do you want to leave big

1823
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 1: Al alone?

1824
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 5: Yes?

1825
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: I used to walk at night through the to the

1826
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: golf course. Guess what I don't walk at night through

1827
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: the golf course Big Owl. But we have many issues

1828
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: at Port Royal and the Paul New issues.

1829
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 4: Yes, where are they? What black topping the driveways. There's

1830
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 4: a couple of women when they cut the grass and

1831
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:40,560
Speaker 4: the liver where the grass savings get something instead of

1832
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 4: a quarter? Bob co Opp knows what I'm talking about.

1833
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1834
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: Well, there are some women that walk into the dining

1835
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 1: room with a certain kind of a heel and they

1836
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: click when they hit the floor the porcelain tile, click

1837
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,440
Speaker 1: click click, And some of the diners.

1838
01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 4: Be tough on the rock must be how do you

1839
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 4: deal with these? Some of the diners are saying is

1840
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 4: disrupting the mood. That's like the sound of pickleball letting

1841
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 4: people up. I'm going, well right, Pennies like the oversea

1842
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 4: everything he's in charge of bears, so she's gonna get

1843
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 4: on the ladies that were the wooden heels she.

1844
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: Said, we're not going to address this issue. Another complaint

1845
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: from a member apparently my shrimp flombay, and all of

1846
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: a sudden here.

1847
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 4: Clink clink, click, clink, clink, click click, And.

1848
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: So there's a motion of the next board meeting to

1849
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: bar women from wearing heels that calls noises.

1850
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 4: Is that a problem? Big one, many bigger ones. Yeah,

1851
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 4: we got great, we got Ukraine and Russia and and

1852
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 4: and you with the shoes at the pall.

1853
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 9: That's a bigger problem than Ole Miss has. Right now,

1854
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 9: what would you do?

1855
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 5: It is late.

1856
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: I watched this morning steven a and and Paul. They

1857
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: went out at hard and the issue on one side

1858
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 1: of the table is he recruited every player, he hired

1859
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: every coach six years at Old Miss.

1860
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 9: He got them to places they never ever, ever would

1861
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 9: have been since nineteen sixty. I don't recall what happened

1862
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 9: with Johnny Pother or somebody anyway, And now he's leaving

1863
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 9: for like eighty million dollars instead of I guess the

1864
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 9: Old Miss said we'll match it, and he said no.

1865
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1866
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 9: So it's not the money, because yes, they would have

1867
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,759
Speaker 9: matched it. It's the fact that is a popular opinion

1868
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 9: and somewhat justified that if you want to win a

1869
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 9: national championship, if you're Lane Kiffing, you have all the money,

1870
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 9: you got all that, but you want to go down

1871
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 9: history is winning a national title.

1872
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 4: The popular opinion is.

1873
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 9: There's about four or five schools that you can really

1874
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 9: do that at LSU's one of them.

1875
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is not historically. Now, Brian Kelly win a

1876
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: national that's your guy from Notre Dame.

1877
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 9: I know, yeah, I would argue that. Okay, I understand

1878
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 9: that five years ago. But now, with nil and the

1879
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 9: movement of the players, I think you can build Old

1880
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 9: Miss into a roster because all they care about is

1881
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,480
Speaker 9: the money and I having.

1882
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 4: A great coach.

1883
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 9: I mean, who get the top offensive players, you know, quarterbacks,

1884
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 9: receivers in the country.

1885
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 4: Everything here in Oxford?

1886
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 9: I would if I had taken a visit to Oxford,

1887
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 9: I would have second guessed my college choice.

1888
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: What's better about Oxford, Mississippi than Oxford, Ohio, asked Bill Belichick.

1889
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 1: Is Jordan Hudson from there?

1890
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 6: Not?

1891
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 9: Well, but there's got a lot of a lot of

1892
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 9: girls that look like Jordan Hudson, a lot of twelves

1893
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 9: running around there.

1894
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just gonna say. It's gonna tell you there's

1895
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 4: nothing Baton Rouge. There's none in South Bend. We know that.

1896
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 9: But if you if you go to Ole Miss like

1897
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,600
Speaker 9: it's an isolated campus.

1898
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 4: It's kind of like almost like.

1899
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 9: Miami Oxford, where it's kind of like it's separate, it's away,

1900
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 9: it's it's kind of your own.

1901
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 4: Little kingdom there.

1902
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 9: It's beautiful, it's warm, beautiful people everywhere, the LSU.

1903
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 4: It's like a place. But yeah, you're kind of dealing

1904
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 4: with what.

1905
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1906
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 4: It just doesn't seem as likely beautif. But again, they

1907
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 4: have the money. What about the click click click in

1908
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 4: the dining room. I mean, somebody on top of that.

1909
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: I told you better get on top of that. We

1910
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: can't have that. How about Kentucky fire Mark Stoops.

1911
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 9: That is dumb because they fire him now they only

1912
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 9: might think thirty thirty seven million, and they do it

1913
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 9: at the end. Here, there's no good candidates out there anymore.

1914
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 9: I know they hired who they hired, the guy from Morgan.

1915
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 4: How about Chuck Martin. I mean you didn't know about

1916
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 4: Chuck Martin. Chuck Martin should should be considered like that.

1917
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 4: And I explained this to you off here. Everyone's looking

1918
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 4: for the.

1919
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 9: Next hot like you know, offensive coordinator, young guy, this

1920
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 9: and that. Give me somebody that consistently wins, year after year,

1921
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 9: through ups and downs, consistently wins.

1922
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: That's what Chuck Martin does. The quarterback walked off the

1923
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: team two weeks ago. What he kept blinding? I know

1924
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I would dominate Kentucky. Why don't they want what you

1925
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: tell you?

1926
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:55,759
Speaker 4: It's the Kurt Signetti model Indiana.

1927
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 9: Instead of trying to find some guy that calls great

1928
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 9: plays and he's young and he's their five and all that,

1929
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 9: how about hire a guy that every place he's been

1930
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 9: winner like Signetti, he wins I U p U I

1931
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 9: where else he was some dto schools, he just wins, wins.

1932
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 9: When Chuck Martin's that mount wins. Chuck Martin not to

1933
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 9: go to Kentucky. He should well, they already hired someone.

1934
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 9: But it just seems stupid. It doesn't look like a

1935
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 9: college football coach. Chuck Martin looks like a high school

1936
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,600
Speaker 9: football coach. Signetti doesn't look like. It doesn't look like

1937
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 9: Lane Kiffin, doesn't look like.

1938
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 4: Does it matter? That shouldn't matter what you win.

1939
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 9: But the problem is is you know, you're dealing with

1940
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 9: a fam The presidents of these schools and athletic directors,

1941
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 9: they're so scared to make a big time choice where

1942
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 9: you got to like put your you know what's on

1943
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 9: the line because they care about, Oh, what's the fans

1944
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 9: gonna think?

1945
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 4: Who cares with a fan?

1946
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 9: Go with your gut. Go with a guy who wins

1947
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 9: football games? How about that area? Anywhere everywhere he's been,

1948
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 9: whatever level, does he win consistently? Does he turned programs around?

1949
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 9: That's who I would hire Chuck. I would prioritize that

1950
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 9: over the guy who's the best play caller, has this

1951
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 9: some crazy unique offense.

1952
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 4: Everybody has that some sports and make it fast?

1953
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Speaker 5: Will he?

1954
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Speaker 4: The student reporters proud service of your local Tame Star

1955
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Speaker 4: Heating and air Conditioning dealers Tamestar Kaala you could feel

1956
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 4: in Northern Kentucky call any weather Heating and Air eight five, nine, seven,

1957
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Speaker 4: eight one forty eight twenty two sports. The Bengals Update

1958
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Speaker 4: brought to you by Good Spirits, Winding Tobacco and Party Town,

1959
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 4: Willy and Northern Kentucky. Bengals Line tonight at six oh five.

1960
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 4: Bengals coming off that big win Thanksgiving night, and now

1961
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills are on the road on Sunday. Are

1962
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 4: they going to beat the Bills on Sunday?

1963
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Speaker 6: Rock?

1964
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Speaker 4: Yes, please continue. Bearcats and Tarlton State tonight six thirty

1965
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Speaker 4: on seven hundred WLW excellent the guitar former UK coach

1966
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 4: Billy Gillespie. He's probably running against Alan Cutler to the

1967
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 4: fifth third arena. Saint Francis takes on Zager tonight six

1968
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Speaker 4: thirty fifty five KRC the talk station.

1969
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 1: What is Carlton is a Carlton, Tarlton, Carlton cigarette cigarette

1970
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Speaker 1: no Tarbo Texas five and three.

1971
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Speaker 4: They've won three in a row and they're one. One

1972
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 4: main guy is Deor Johnson. He's pouring in about thirty

1973
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 4: points a game and Zager's playing Saint Francis.

1974
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Speaker 5: Of a c C.

1975
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that guy's charitable. Do you blame Lane Kiffin or

1976
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 9: do you blame the system?

1977
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 4: This system? The system. The system's got to be changed.

1978
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 9: Lane Kiffen deserves some level of blame for out but

1979
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 9: the system is gotta change.

1980
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 4: It's got a change.

1981
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 9: You can't in the NFL, you can't A coach can't

1982
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 9: leave and go to another team.

1983
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 4: In the middle of the season. In the season, why

1984
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 4: not wait until February till things.

1985
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 9: There needs to be a head person overseeing all of

1986
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 9: college football because right if you're Greg Sank, you're the

1987
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 9: commissioner of the SEC. All you care about is the SEC.

1988
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 9: You'll give a damn what happens with the Big Ten

1989
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 9: as long as you're branding the money and you're on top.

1990
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 9: You want the rules and the regulations designed to help

1991
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,640
Speaker 9: you be the best, so that if someone needs to

1992
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 9: be over top of all of them saying, Okay, this

1993
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 9: may not be the best for u SEC, but it's

1994
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,839
Speaker 9: best for all of college football, and everybody wins, everyone

1995
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 9: gets paid.

1996
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Speaker 4: That's what needs to happen.

1997
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Speaker 1: Say give me out of the Student's Report, please getting

1998
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: ready for all things, including the Crosstown shoot out, the

1999
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: Bengals and St X Anderson I was playing for state titles.

2000
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Speaker 4: Later in the week, Willia and Honor of the Snow

2001
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 4: on the way with Ted McKay. We leave you with

2002
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 4: the immortal words of the Stooge Report. Life's never easy

2003
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,839
Speaker 4: in the National Football League. This is It's just amazing,

2004
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Speaker 4: isn't it.

2005
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Speaker 1: It's Dave Lappham, the legendary sixty two a news radio

2006
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW