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Around two twenty we have talkbacks and we 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: have so much more. It's the Thursday edition of sincey 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: three to sixty. We invite you to be as much 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: a part of it as you possibly can. We'll get 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: into some read and react today as it pertains to 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: the Bengals in the Steelers this coming Sunday. We'll talk 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: a little more about UC Arizona on Saturday, and so 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: much more across the world of sports. Speaking of across 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: the world of sports, Austin, we've got cy Young winners, 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: cy Young Award winners. 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: Isn't it weird? How baseball just like random nights throughout 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: the week in November they're like, oh yeah, here's our 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: biggest awards. 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: Sweeps it under the rug. 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: They still haven't announced MVP yet. 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: Everything they do is swept under the rug. Everything they 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: do is a is a backseat to whatever else is 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: going on. 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: Weird, how like they choose not to make it a 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: big deal. 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Yes, why wouldn't you want to highlight that? Why wouldn't 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: you want to highlight the best of your sport on 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: their own night? 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: Correct, It's just weird. It's very strange. I don't get it. 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: But congratulations to Terrek school ball and uh, but what's 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: his name Paul. Yes, I almost said Pat Mahomes, Paul Skans, 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: and Trek schooball back to back winners school ball is Yeah, 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: now skiings Austin. They made it a big deal because 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: you know, his reaction previously wasn't that great. Much different 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: reaction this year. They had the whole party go super excited. Yeah, 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: I mean, congrats to Paul Skeins. He he dominated with 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: thirty first place votes. It was one I mean, it 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: was an absolute no brainer. Andrew Abbot got a couple 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: of votes. 53 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: Andrew Abbott did get a couple vote votes. He got 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: four votes. 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, got a fourth place vote, a two fifth place votes, 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: maybe a sixth place vote if I saw that correctly, 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: which you know, I didn't realize this until today. But like, 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: you get bonuses, like from the Players Association, if I'm 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: not mistaken, if you finish in a certain spot in 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: those awards. So Paul Sken's got an extra two point 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: five mil for winning the cy Young if you finish fourth, 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: you get an extra million dollars. So Andrew Abbott narrowly 63 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: missed out on that. But yeah, I do think that's 64 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: cool that they reared them with a little extra cash 65 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: if you win those awards. 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Didn't mention the Manager Managers of the Year though Steven 67 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: Vote for the Cleveland Guardians won it. Yeah, and then 68 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: in the National League Pat Murphy of the Milwaukee Brewers. 69 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: Both of those guys won it last year too. How 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: about Pat Murphy the Brewers, Like everybody loves Pat Murphy. 71 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason why he wins it, 72 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: just like a likable guy. But like, win a game? 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: Did they do win a playoff game? Do Brewers fans 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: feel like it was a success? I mean, they exceeded 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: probably their preseason expectations. That's fine, But like when you 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: win ninety six games or whatever it was, you set 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: a new franchise record, you probably expect to at least 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: go to the old series. 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: Is there a little disappointment after that? 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: I was up in Wisconsin at the time all that 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: was happening, and I was listening to some of the 82 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: sports talk radio up there, and I was astounded by 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: all they seemed to care about was let's just beat 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: the Cubs. That's all they cared about. Yep, and they 85 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: kind of expected to lose to the Dodgers. I was 86 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: blown away by that mentality. But what I one of 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: the things I learned when I was up there is 88 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: that there may not be a disdain or a hatred 89 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: between two fan bases that is less talked about than 90 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: Milwaukee and Chicago. Yeah, and specifically baseball, Like obviously you 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: got the Bears and the Packers in there a little 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: bit as well, but Brewers fans hate Cubs fans, and 93 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: they especially hate when they come to Milwaukee to come 94 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: to games. I learned that. I was blown away by that. Yeah, 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: it's a random thought. 96 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: It is, but I'm I'm so with you in the 97 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: idea of how they go about with giving away their awards. 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: Make it a big deal, like you, Everything about the 99 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: game of baseball in recent years has been about what 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: you utilize your players more, put your best players, you know, 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: up front and center. Make it a big deal, make 102 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: it feel like it's a monumental thing instead, Like we've 103 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: talked about this with the Major League Baseball Draft every year, 104 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: just it's tucked away on a random day where games 105 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: are happening. And now, like, look at what the other 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: sports do. They make it a production, they make it 107 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: an event, they draw it out for TV. At the 108 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: same time baseball does none of that is said. How 109 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: many how many random sports fans often probably even know 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: that the awards were now given out this week. 111 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm pretty plugged in and I didn't even 112 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: know that the cy Young Award was happening until I 113 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: saw it on Instagram last night. 114 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's it is. 115 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: But that that's the other thing, Like you could go 116 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: live on Instagram, you could go live on TikTok, you 117 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: can go live on and you know, in some way, 118 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: shape or form and let people know what's happening instead 119 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: of putting it on MLB network. And I don't know, 120 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: it's just it's it's very strange to me how there 121 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: is just a complete disregard for that. Yeah, I mean, 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't know that you have to do what the 123 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: NFL does with the NFL Honors and turn it into 124 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: an awards show like the Red Carpet a Los Angeles. 125 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're gonna get that, But can 126 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: you find a you know, a time to do that 127 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: during football season? I feel like you could. 128 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: If you're baseball, just imagine if you could get in 129 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: the same room your MVP finalist Otani Swarber Soto judge Raley, 130 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez like them in a in a space together. 131 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: People would want to watch that because you never get 132 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: to see all those guys together in baseball. 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if they have started to do that 134 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: with the MVP Awards or not. I remember a couple 135 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: of years ago, I think it was like twenty sixteen 136 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: or seventeen, when Vado was ridiculous and the Reds were awful, 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: and I think he finished second or third in MVP voting. 138 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: He was like on he was live from the Reds 139 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Yeah, he was just like sitting in 140 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: a chair in the museum. And while that was a 141 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: cool backdrop, especially if you're a Reds fan, it's like 142 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: he couldn't you know, they couldn't put him in you know, 143 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: do it in Cooperstown every year wherever. I don't know. 144 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 145 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: Uh. Baseball does a lot of things that don't make sense. 146 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I said, I think it's a miss, but 147 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: it is. It is what it is. 148 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: At this point, I thought Paul Skeen said some pretty 149 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: cool stuff last night about being a pirate and all that. 150 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: Do you want to get into this really quickly? Yeah, 151 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: So he was asked about you know, there was a 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: report an anonymous teammate of Paul Skeen said that he 153 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: says he wants to play for the Yankees. Anonymous doesn't 154 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: want to play for the Pirates, and he was naturally 155 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: asked about that and asked about, you know, the Pirates 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: wanting to win and trying to win. He said, quote, 157 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: this isn't my city. I'm not from Pittsburgh. I'm adopted 158 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 3: by this city. The fans that show up for us 159 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: when we are winning, I personally love that. If we 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: are losing, the fans don't show up in the same numbers. 161 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: It's not like Chicago or Saint Louis. If you want fans, 162 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: you gotta win. They deserve it. I appreciated that from 163 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: people now Lewis thing. 164 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: That's a little pressure on the organization too. 165 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Saint Louis thing is not applicable anymore because 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: those fans have stopped showing up, and and good for 167 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: them for doing so. But I appreciate that Paul has 168 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: now multiple times put some pressure on the organization absolutely 169 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: to say, okay, listen, man, I can leave. I will 170 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: leave if you don't give me a reason to stay. 171 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: And I mean if you're if you're a Pirates fan 172 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: right now, how do you feel you got the Rookie 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: of the Year and the Scion back to back years. 174 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: You've got the best, arguably the best player in baseball 175 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: not named Shoho Tani, and you have an organization that 176 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: has flat out disregarded any attempt to win. 177 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: I think it at the most, I think the word 178 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: would be hopeless. Yeah, like you have to feel hopeless, 179 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: like we we in a sense we talk about it 180 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati a little bit of well enjoy Elle while 181 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: he's here. I mean that has to be magnified with schemes, right, Oh, 182 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean you're talking about a once in a generational talent. Yeah, 183 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: and it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's not 184 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: going to play on a competitive team in Pittsburgh and 185 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 2: eventually he's going to be gone. 186 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean even O'tani was when he was with the Angels, 187 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: they at least tried, like hell, and they made, you know, 188 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: changes and brought in guys and they had Trout obviously. 189 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: Mean hell, you could even say that the acquisition of 190 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: Otani was trying to build around Trout. They tried, they failed. 191 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: It would be like O'tani you know, going to the braves, 192 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: and the braves just don't try to put anybody around him. 193 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: It'd be amazing. 194 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: Yep. Some NFL news that's about the wide receiver position. 195 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown has been released from jail. He is a 196 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: waiting and attempted murder trial. Keep an eye on that. 197 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: And then what do you make, if anything, about what's 198 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: going on with the Philadelphia Eagles and AJ Brown? AJ Brown. 199 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: I think he was playing like Madden or a video 200 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: game online and essentially told people like, if you've got 201 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: me in Fantasy, don't play me anymore. Essentially he's talking 202 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: about how how hard it is and how hard this 203 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: season has been. You know, nothing Everything you say right now, 204 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: I feel like is going to be blown up because 205 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: of the world of the media that we're in. AJ 206 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 2: Brown is Yeah. AJ Brown is playing video games and 207 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: talking on a video game about, you know, essentially how 208 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: hard the season has been. And I don't think he 209 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: was doing it to try to create a stir. I 210 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: think he was doing it to just have a conversation 211 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: with a friend. But that obviously gets taken into context. 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: And what I what I appreciate about AJ Brown, He's 213 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: not apologizing for what he said. No, he said, it's 214 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: not solely about my situation. I want to win. I 215 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: think if we're really focused on winning and doing our job, 216 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: we can keep slopping a band aid over the defense 217 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: doing their job and getting us out of trouble. At 218 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: what point are we going to pick up our slack 219 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: on offense? Obviously he feels like picking up the slack 220 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: on offense would be getting him involved, and rightfully so, 221 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: he's a very very good receiver. He was asked playing 222 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: Madden you know if everything was going well? He said, no, 223 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: where have you been? Family's good, everything else. No, it's 224 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: a bleep show. Yeah, he shouldn't have to apologize for 225 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: that because he's telling the truth. 226 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: He's also been pretty open about this in the media 227 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: in the past. He was open about it, you know 228 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: at times last year when things weren't going well for them. Listen, 229 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: Philly is seven and two. That's the thing, and that's fine. 230 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: But I think maybe the point AJ is trying to 231 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: make is it's seven and two, but we may not 232 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: be good enough to get back to where we want 233 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: to go because the offense is not operating, not functioning 234 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: the way that it's supposed to. Be and they're not. 235 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 3: That's the thing, correct, He's right, he's not a part 236 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: of it. Dude has thirty one catches. Yeah, through nine games, 237 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: four yards first in the National Football League. He has 238 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: just four hundred yards. 239 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: That's fiftieth in the NFL. 240 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: And so I get where he's that he's upset. I 241 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: don't know that always being public about it is the 242 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 3: best play. Yeah, But also you know, I don't blame 243 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: him for being upset. I appreciate his honesty. Yeah, And 244 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: I also appreciate him saying no, I'm not apologizing. 245 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: For what I said. Yeah, Like it'd be very easy 246 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: to be like, ah, that's my mistake. It's whatever. And 247 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he was trying to be a huge distraction. 248 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: I just think he's being very open about where his 249 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: role is and what's going on with the Philadelphia Eagles. 250 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with that, nor do 251 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: I think you should respond by that now. Jalen Hurts 252 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: was asked about it. His quote, we got the Detroit 253 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: Lions this week, so I'm definitely gonna put a halt 254 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: to it. The more we drive to it, the more 255 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: of a distraction it becomes. And I think Ultimately it's 256 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: about the group, and I think that's a good response 257 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: from the quarterback as well. 258 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: Jalen his first team all coach speak like that's just 259 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: who he is as a guy. I think there are 260 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: times where, like I saw a clip yesterday of like 261 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven where t O and Donovan McNabb 262 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: or just hashing it out on the sideline, right, two 263 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: alpha personalities too, you know, outgoing dudes that are not 264 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: afraid to just make their voice heard. Jalen is a 265 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: very buttoned up dude. He has a mentality, a focus. 266 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: He's focused on the mission. If aj Brown thinks that 267 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: complaining about targets or complaining about you know, his the 268 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: way the offense works or whatever is going to get 269 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: under the skin of Jalen Hurts or forced Jalen Hurts 270 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: to change is the way he operates, then he doesn't 271 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,239 Speaker 3: really know Jalen. 272 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: Hurts, right, Which maybe that's why he felt like he 273 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: could talk about it. Yeah, maybe so, Like I know Jalen, 274 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: Jalen knows me. It's who we are. I think I 275 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: can talk about it. I view that relationship in that 276 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: way of both of them being enough of a professional 277 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: to get their job done. Let's take ourselves a break. 278 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: We're just getting started. Let's do some read and react 279 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: when we get back, Austin, Let's read and react, Bangles Steelers, 280 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: your phone calls as well. 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And we did what we needed to 291 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: do last week. We did some tendency talk, we reacted 292 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: to the season up to this point. But now we 293 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: can read and react looking ahead to the Pittsburgh Steelers 294 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: on Sunday. What do we got today, Well, we got 295 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: a few different ones. Let's start with the quarterback, Aaron Rodgers. Hey, Rod, 296 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Tony has not passed for more than three 297 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: hundred excuse me, two hundred and thirty yards in his 298 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: last three games. However, the last time he did so 299 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: was against the Bengals in Wach seven. In that game, 300 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: he had thirty four attempts for two hundred and forty 301 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: nine passing yards and four touchdowns. The Bengals are one 302 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: of just three teams to allow more than two hundred 303 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: and sixty passing yards per game this season. Uh, it 304 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: speaks to the complete lack of pass rush that the 305 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: Bengals have. I mean, listen, it goes further than that. 306 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: Austin what he he had two forty nine against the Bengals, 307 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: he has not eclipsed two fifty at all this year. 308 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: In the opener against the Jets, he had two hundred 309 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: and forty four passing yards. Following that two oh three 310 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: one thirty nine, two hundred, two thirty five two nineteen, 311 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: two oh three, one sixty one. He's not producing the 312 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: big plays that we historically see from Aaron Rodgers. And 313 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: at the same time, he's throwing the ball thirty thirty three, 314 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: thirty four thirty six times a game, so they're putting 315 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: up the passes. It just feels like watching this team 316 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: outside of Pat Fryarmuth against the Bengals, that everything is 317 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: dink and dunk, that everything's the short passes, there's not 318 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: much run after the catch. He's not connecting on the 319 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: deep shots down the field. And I think there are 320 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: multiple factors to that one. I don't think his footwork 321 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: is quite what it was when he was younger. I 322 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: still think the arms there, but I don't think it 323 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: matches with the footwork, and I think he's struggling to 324 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: get that timing down. I also think outside of DK Metcalf, 325 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: who everyone now is just going to double team, I 326 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: don't think their receiving course strikes a lot of fear 327 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: into most teams. 328 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think the other thing with Rogers in that 329 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 3: game from a couple of thursdays ago was the fact 330 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: that you know, one of those completions was like a 331 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: forty yard touchdown to pat Ryermuth. I mean, without that, 332 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: the Bengals probably hold him to about that number around 333 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: two hundred a in which makes me, you know, wonder 334 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: what exactly the plan for Pittsburgh will be in this game? 335 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: How about this? 336 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: Well? 337 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: I also one more on Rogers, sure, I also find 338 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: it interesting the Bengals were not able to sack him once. 339 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: In the three games that have transpired after the Bengals game, 340 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: He's been sacked three times in each game. So nine 341 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: times since the Bengals failed to get home at all, 342 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has been sacked. Do you remember Austin It 343 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: was like his first touchdown pass against the Bengals. They 344 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: were in the low red zone. I don't exactly remember 345 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: who he threw it to, but they were in the 346 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: low red zone day and it felt like he had 347 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: ten seconds in the pocket. He scrambled around and it's 348 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: like that looked like thirty year old Aaron Rodgers, not 349 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: because he moved well, but just he was able because 350 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 2: the pocket was so open to freely move around it. 351 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: He's not been able to do that much this year. 352 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: You can't allow him to do that again going forward. 353 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: The Bengals defense has struggled with tackling this season, missing 354 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: one hundred and nine tackles and allowing seven hundred and 355 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: seventy eight yards after missed tackles. Both those numbers are 356 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: the most seventy eight football league. Oh my god. 357 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: Most of that stems from poor execution on initial contact 358 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 3: as they've converted just seventy one percent of their first 359 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: tackle opportunities, the lowest rate in the league. Wow, you 360 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 3: could have told me seven I would have never guessed 361 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: they did at seventy one percent. No, man, that is 362 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: I know. There's not a ton to say on that one. 363 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot. 364 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: But what I think is most interesting on average, when 365 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: they're missing a tackle, the other team is getting an 366 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: additional seven yards. That's crazy, Like, it's not like you 367 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: make the first guy miss and then the cavalry arrives 368 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: and you pick up two extra yards. They're they're dangneering 369 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: picking up first downs every time they break a tackle. Yeah, 370 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: you can't operate. You can operate in that sense. Again, 371 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: one one hundred and nine missed tackles for some teams 372 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: is not even the number they hit in the full season. 373 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, to continue on to that point, sixty eight point 374 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 3: seven of the Steelers' passing yards this season have come 375 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: after the catch, a higher mark than any other team 376 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: in the next Gen stats era. Uh uh. They are 377 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: the only team above sixty percent in twenty twenty five 378 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: uhh DK metcalf three hundred and five and Jalen Warren 379 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty eight have recorded the most yak 380 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: on the team, combining for forty four percent of the 381 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: Steelers team total. The Bengals defense has allowed sixty two 382 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: point five percent of their passing yards after the catch 383 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: this season, the highest rate in the league. So just tackles, 384 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: is it you're not in position to. 385 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of both. Yeah, not even you know, 386 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both. You said 387 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: sixty two and a half of their passing yards have 388 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: come after the catch. That's insane. One that tells me 389 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: you're not connected a lot on your on your back end. 390 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: You know again, how many times have we seen a 391 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: ball completed against the Bengals and you're like, man, what 392 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: tight coverage other than DJ Turner? And it makes sense 393 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: for the Steelers, Like that's a high number. But when 394 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: you just break it down to DK Metcalf and Jalen 395 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: Warre and that makes sense, that's a lot of short 396 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: get it out of your hands if Aaron Rodgers and 397 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: try to get a ball to a guy in space, 398 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: and Jalen Warren that can make guys miss and DK 399 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: Metcalf who can still run around people that, to me, 400 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: paired with the lack of offense, or paired with the 401 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: lack of ability to get after the offensive passer, You're 402 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: you're You're not gonna have Trey Hendrickson, likely not gonna 403 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: have Shamar Stewart. How do you apply pressure to Aaron 404 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: Rodgers to not allow them to allow those routes to 405 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: develop and not exploit big openings in the in the 406 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: back end. 407 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: The last time these two teams met, the Steelers were 408 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: adamant on sticking with their man defense, and the Bengals 409 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: picked them apart. T Higgins has caught fourteen of twenty 410 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: six targets against man coverage for two hundred and seventeen 411 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: yards that's eighth most in the NFL and four touchdowns. 412 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: He has averaged fourteen point six air yards per target 413 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: against man, the ninth most among players with at least 414 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: ten such targets. On man coverage targets traveling ten or 415 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: more air yards, Higgins has totaled one hundred and eighty 416 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: one yards, tied for third most, and two touchdowns. The 417 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: Steelers defense has played man coverage on forty two percent 418 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: of opponent dropbacks, the third highest rate in the league. 419 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 2: Some thing's gotta give. 420 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: Like they can't do what they did again, right, They can't. 421 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: You can't it, And to me, it's it's what I'm 422 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: looking for right away on Sunday, Let's say, first series, 423 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: do they do they try at least one more series 424 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: to say, let's see if if we've got this figured out, 425 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: or do you just come out and say we're taking 426 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: our medicine, we know what this was last time, and 427 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna play zone this week. That to me is 428 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: the most interesting part. We talked about it a little bit. 429 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: They have made some adjustments. Jalen Ramsey's now playing majority 430 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: at the safety role. That's different than the last time 431 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: they were here. Because Jalen Ramsey couldn't keep up with 432 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: t Higgins or Jamar Chase. There's no way you rewatch 433 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: the tape and see Joe Flackill pump at twenty three 434 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: times to Jamar Chase and and come back out and say, yes, man, 435 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: coverage makes the most sense. I just don't see them 436 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: doing that. And the only way I would see them 437 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: doing that is if their front four were better than 438 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: what we've seen. They're not as dominant on their defensive 439 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: front as I think A lot of people thought they 440 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: would be, which makes it harder to play man because 441 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: you just covering for a longer amount of time. 442 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about that. Number One makes me think 443 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: maybe Zach Taylor dial up a shot first play and 444 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: just see what Pittsburgh's thinking. The Steelers defense has generated 445 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: quick pressure under two and a half seconds on seventeen 446 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: point four percent of opponent dropbacks this season. That's the 447 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: fifth highest rate in the NFL. They've averaged a two 448 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: point five to three second time to pressure, the quickest 449 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Nick Herbig has fifteen. TJ. Watt has fourteen, 450 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: that's ninth and twelfth most in the NFL. They lead 451 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: the team in quick pressures, standing as the only Steelers 452 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: defenders with ten or more quick pressures this season. 453 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna go. It's just not as 454 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: balanced along the line as it has been in years past, 455 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: and not with TJ. Watt. TJ. Watt's still a great player. 456 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't think TJ. Watts has a big answer for 457 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: double teams right now. He's just not been as big 458 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: of a factor. They did get to Joe Flacco twice 459 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: in that previous win for the Bengals. But to me, Austin, 460 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: it didn't feel like Flacco was just under a barrage 461 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: of pressure the whole game. It felt like the running 462 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: game and the quick game alleviated a little bit a 463 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: little bit of that from the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm a 464 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 2: little surprised that their fifth highest in the NFL at 465 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: that quick pressure rate because the first go around with 466 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: the Bengals, and again credit Chase Brown, credit Joe Flacco 467 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: and the ability to get it out quick. I just 468 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: didn't see that being a thing for them. Now if 469 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: they were to go zone now, maybe Jamar, Chase and 470 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: T Higgins don't break free as quick. Maybe that does 471 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: allow that defense of the Steelers to generate some quicker pressures. 472 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: A couple more, Let's go with TJ. Watt. TJ. Watt 473 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: needs one sack to pass his brother JJ's NFL career 474 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 3: sack total of one hundred and fourteen and a half. 475 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: Both Watt brothers had exactly eleven and a half sacks 476 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: in college at Wisconsin, with TJ at one hundred and 477 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: fourteen NFL's sacks and JJ at one hundred and fourteen 478 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: and a half. 479 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that first go round TJ. Watt one hit on 480 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: the quarterback, a half sack, and one total tackle in 481 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: the game. He was essentially nonexistent in that first go round. 482 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: He is. 483 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: He's got six sacks this year, so it's not a 484 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: terrible terrible number, but if you look at what he's 485 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: on pace to do each of the last couple of years, 486 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's had a twenty two and a half 487 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: sack year, he's had a nineteen sack year, he's had 488 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: fourteen and a half, fifteen thirteen. He's just not as dominant. 489 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: Only thirty seven tackles to this point, fifteen of those solo, 490 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 2: which is well below what he averaged each of the 491 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: last couple of years. You hit on this earlier in 492 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: the week, Austin. It is why the Bengals, and rightfully so, 493 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: were hesitant in dishing out that type of money to 494 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, because at some point, and TJ. Wat's thirty 495 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: one years old, at some point, the production is going 496 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: to drop, and it feels like it's dropping little bit 497 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: for TJ. Watt. 498 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase has six and fifty six receiving yards this 499 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: year in his career so far, that's the sixth most 500 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: receiving yards by a player in their first five career 501 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: seasons in NFL history. Chase needs one hundred and nine 502 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: receiving yards to pass Jerry Rice for the fourth most 503 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: in his first five seasons. The top three justin Jefferson, 504 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 3: Tory Holt, and Randy Moss. Wow. 505 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean, if we're talking about first five seasons and 506 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: he's got a legitimate chance to move significantly up that list. 507 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: He's pretty close to be in a Hall of Famer already. Yeah. 508 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: Crazy is it can be crazy? Two more years of this, 509 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: he'll be in camp. 510 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. And again that's through the first five seasons. So 511 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: he still got what how many games left this year? Yeah, 512 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of opportunities to climb on that list. 513 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: He might get the one hundred nine on Sunday, Let's 514 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: be honest. 515 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah he could. And here's why. How about this last one. 516 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: The Bengals have allowed thirty or more points five times 517 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 3: in regulation this season. That's, as you may have guessed, 518 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: the most in the National Football League. They are one 519 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: in four in those five games. The Steelers defense has 520 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 3: allowed thirty or more points four times, tied for the 521 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: second most in the NFL this season. The teams previously 522 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: combined for sixty four points when they faced each other 523 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: in Week seven. 524 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: Wow, that's the least surprising stat we've done on read 525 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: and React to that this defense stinks. They're bad. We've 526 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: talked that they're not just league bad, they are historically bad, 527 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: tracking to be one of, if not the worst defense 528 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL. I can't imagine, Austin, 529 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: how demoralizing it would be on Monday if we're talking 530 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: about a Bengals loss when they score over thirty points 531 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Oh, can you imagine? Because coming out of 532 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: the by there is some momentum here. We talked about 533 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's career numbers on the defensive side of the ball, 534 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: and I know much of that was with Luena Rumo 535 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: starting in week ten and on during his tenure. We've 536 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: talked about the ability to go into a buy and 537 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: self scout and correct the things you've needed to do. 538 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: Can you imagine? And on top of all that, Joe 539 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: Burrow is back practicing. Can you imagine the gut punch 540 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: it would be to go to Pittsburgh, put over thirty 541 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: on the board and still lose the game. How could 542 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: you bounce back from that. I don't think you could. 543 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: I honestly don't think you could. You want to keep scoring, 544 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: but if the defense comes out and allows this Pittsburgh 545 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: Steeler offense to go over thirty again, I don't see 546 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: one how you win the game, and two I don't 547 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: see how the locker room doesn't fracture. Do you remember 548 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: Austin what happened after the Bears game? Remember Jamar Chase? 549 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: I do? 550 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: Remember Chase? 551 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: I do? 552 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: And the bye week I think helped a little bit 553 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: of that, because why players get away, settle it down, 554 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: settle everything down, defensive players not speaking, then coming in 555 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: the next day and talking. The bye week helped a 556 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: lot of that. If you pick right back up and 557 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: you lose a game thirty six thirty three, it is 558 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: going to be madness in that locker room, madness going 559 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: forward for the Cincinnati Bengals, Read and React is done. 560 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: Read and react, Lartis. We're supposed to be getting some 561 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: audio for that sake. 562 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: Clardis five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Give 563 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: us a call, let's do it. We'll continue on our 564 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: number one. John Shearon to kick off our number two 565 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 566 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN 567 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 568 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Moagger. 569 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 5: Join me this afternoon starting at three h five on 570 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 5: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. I'm doing what Mark 571 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 5: Chase plays here ESPN fifteen thirty. 572 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: Here's holiday. 573 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 6: I'm the center of Pastor Mario Satan Sir Tomahawk, right 574 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 6: hander bringing the heat in New Orleans. 575 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: Chris plays set up. Man, I took your brother away? 576 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 5: It did? 577 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: Pelicans still have a team one more time. 578 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm the center of Pastor Mario. Dude was in 579 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: the air for a while. Man, that was I believe 580 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: Manduel Sports Network up there in Portland for the Trail Blazers. 581 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: Shadon Sharp had thirty five. The Pelicans are two and nine. 582 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: I think Zion's heart again or something. That's what a 583 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: disaster that's been. 584 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: Did I see former Kentucky Wildcat Boogie Cousins say that 585 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: you just need to move out of New Orleans. 586 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all it takes said. 587 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: There's no fans, players don't want to play there. Organization 588 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: hasn't done very good. I don't know if I agree 589 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: with them. I don't know anything about New World. They've 590 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: not done very well at all. When Boogie speaks, I 591 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: think we all tend to listen. 592 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: Mavericks lost again as well, even without Nico Thunder continue 593 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: to win their twelve and one on the season either way, 594 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: Bulls fall Dude, Pistons without Kay Cunningham, which did open 595 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: up about forty five shot attempts for the rest of 596 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: the Pistons and maybe that help. Pistons are ten and two. 597 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: Bulls are six and five. Trouble for the Knicks last 598 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: night as well. They lose, and then Jalen Brunson, after 599 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: rolling his ankles seen leaving the facility on crutches. Ooh, 600 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: something to watch out for there. 601 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: By the way, Falcons offense or excuse me, Falcons. I 602 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: was thinking of Arthur Smith. I still think of the Falcons, 603 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: the former head coach of the Falcons. Steelers offensive coordinator 604 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: Arthur Smith was asked about Aaron Rodgers' performance last Sunday. Quote, 605 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: it's all of us. It's a collective effort. It's never 606 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: on one person. I put it on myself. Not the 607 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: result you wanted, but you get a chance to come 608 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: back and we got to play well. How about Steelers 609 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator Tarrell Austin. He says new cornerback Sante Samuel 610 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: Junior is working exclusively at outside corner right now. The 611 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: timetable on his inclusion in games is TBD. Oh something 612 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: to watch for. I just I can't help but think 613 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: of Tarrell Austin and think back to a game in 614 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen when he was a defensive 615 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: coordinator for the Bengals and the Saints came in with 616 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 3: Drew Brees and they scored on every single offensive possession. 617 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: It was fifty two to seventeen I think the final 618 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: score was. And if I'm not mistaken, Tarrell Austin got 619 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: fired the next day and Marvin Lewis started calling the 620 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: Blaze again. Wow, that's that's all I think about when 621 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: I think of Tarrell Austin. Man, you think he ever 622 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: stretched with the defense? I don't think so. 623 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what this defense looks like 624 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: with an Al Golden stretching out. 625 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: Now Golden should wear a helmet on Sunday. 626 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this? This is yesterday. Now we'll get 627 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: updated today on injury reports as well. Flacco did not 628 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: practice with the shoulder. Trey Hendrickson now not only the hip, 629 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: They've added pelvis to the injury designation for Trey Hendricksons 630 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: hip and pelvis injury. Did not practice. Sam A J. 631 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: P Run pulvis injury. 632 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: No, he did not practice, and Shamar Stewart with the 633 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: knee did not practice as well. Pittsburgh yesterday, John Neusmith, TJ. Watt, 634 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: cam Heyward all did not practice. That was all non 635 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: injury related. Just for Rest now. Alex high Smith, their linebacker, 636 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: did not practice with the pectoral injury. Cole Holcomb, another linebacker, 637 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: did not practice due to illness. Corey Trice and Darius 638 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: Slay both did not practice. Trice with a hamstring and 639 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: Darius Slay because of the concussion. 640 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that secondary is they're just trying to 641 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: figure it out. Right now, we think they're just trying 642 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: to piece it together, which makes me wonder to go 643 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: back to our point, if you have guys that you 644 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: know you're not all that confident in, Like if if 645 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: you're pulling up Asante Samuel off the practice squad, or 646 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: Darius Slay can't go, or you got dudes that have 647 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: been coming off the the injured reserve list to play. 648 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: Are you gonna put them one on one against Tan 649 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: Jamar better not. You wouldn't do that, right or not. 650 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 3: That's unfair to those people. It's unfair to most people, 651 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 3: even the good corners in the NFL, to do that. Yeah, 652 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine Mike Tomlin and his staff look 653 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: at the film from this last time these two teams 654 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: played and said, Yeah, we're gonna stick to this strategy. 655 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: So I hope the Bengals are ready for something different. 656 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: They have to be, like, you have to go into 657 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: this game expecting you're gonna see some zone, right. 658 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: Omar Flacco said yesterday that he has seen coverages against 659 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: t and Jamar that he's never really seen eighteen years 660 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: in the NFL. YEP, that's kind of amazing and speaks 661 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 3: to how good those dudes are. 662 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: That is. It is remarkable to think about that that 663 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: has been a thing and that he's been around this 664 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: long and you don't have it yet or he just 665 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: hasn't seen it yet. And I think it goes to 666 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 2: show just how defenses are trying anything they possibly can 667 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: to make it work against this Bengals offense. 668 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be interesting to see how 669 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: the Bengals use Chase Brown. He was so good that 670 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 3: first time round against Pittsburgh, kind of stifled that pass rush, 671 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: opened up some of those passing concepts that the Bengals used. 672 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: Can he do that? And also can he be a 673 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: weapon in the past game. We haven't seen him like 674 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 3: explode in the past game yet. And I wonder, you 675 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: know what if there's some moments where the are in 676 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: shotgun or they're under center, doesn't matter, and then they 677 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: motion Chase Brown out. Yeah, he goes out to the slot, 678 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: he goes out at the edge of the formation. Maybe 679 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 3: he's one on one with the linebacker. I'm gonna bet 680 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: on Chase Brown most of the time. 681 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: I would too, And I think there's been times there's 682 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: been one or two drops that feels like from Chase 683 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 2: Brown where if he makes a catch, he's gonna score correct. Yeah, 684 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: But I do like how how they've used him in 685 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: the passing games as well. I think that's just a 686 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: I think that's a new addition to this offense. I 687 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: think it's another wrinkle. Of course, you know, you go 688 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: back to that Bears game, then't the Bears game feel 689 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: like months ago? It does? You go back to that 690 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 2: Bears game second half, Mitchell Tinsley met a huge grab, 691 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: Noah Fant made a big play, andre Yoshi Vash had 692 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: multiple big plays. Like offensively that they were in a bag. 693 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: When you're hitting that many different receivers and kind of 694 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: what you want, you feel good about where you're at. 695 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 2: It's just can they get one or two extra stops 696 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: a game? I think that's what it comes down to. 697 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 2: Let's talk about another football game happening this weekend. The 698 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: Bearcats play Saturday against Arizona. 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We're happy to have you along. We 711 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: welcome your phone call five one, three, seven, four, nine, 712 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Give us a call, would love to talk 713 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: to you. I got questions, okay about the Cincinnati Bearcats, 714 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 2: all right, and I don't know if they get answered 715 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: until Saturday. I want to know this team's makeup and 716 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: if it's different than it was last year. By far, 717 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: the question I've received the most from the Utah loss 718 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: to now is is it going to be the same 719 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: issue that plagued this team last year? Is it going 720 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: to be the same thing for this team where they 721 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: started five and two and then didn't win another game? 722 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: Now this season has felt different. This season has provided 723 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: I think more stability in the UC offense in particular. 724 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: Last year sores be down the stretch, just the confidence 725 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: wasn't there. But for this team, what I want to 726 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: know is it different Because the wins they've had at 727 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: Kansas was a good win against Iowa State. You got 728 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 2: Iowa State in a moment where they weren't at full strength, 729 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 2: they were playing shorthanded, and you did find a way 730 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 2: to win at home, but at times felt tense down 731 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: the stretch. Outside of Kansas and Iowa State, they beat UCF, 732 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, and Baylor, who just aren't very good this year. 733 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: The two best teams they've played, in my opinion on 734 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: Nebraska and Utah, and they fell short in both of 735 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: those games I've watched now this week enough of Arizona. 736 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: We talked to Dan Hord about Arizona yesterday Austin. I 737 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: think Arizona might be the third best team they've played. 738 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: Arizona again, for what it's worth, they have a win 739 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: over Kansas State, they have a win over Oklahoma State Colorado, 740 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: and they did beat Kansas just as the Bearcats did, 741 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: and they held a very potent Kansas offense to just 742 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: twenty points. Their losses thirty one to twenty eight on 743 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: the road at Houston. Houston, by the way, is eight 744 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: and two overall, five and two in the league. They 745 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: lost at Iowa State, their worst game of the year, 746 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 2: and then they played BYU at home, and they led 747 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 2: BYU I double digits. They at one point, I believe, 748 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, and I'm confirming right now, there 749 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 2: was a point in the fourth quarter where Arizona took 750 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: a twenty four to fourteen lead. After that, B why 751 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: you rallied, B why you tied it, and then B 752 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 2: why you eventually wins it in overtime. Arizona's been good, man. 753 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 2: They have a good quarterback, and they have a good defense. 754 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: And in coming off your worst performance of the year 755 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 2: offensively in which you turn the ball over on the 756 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,479 Speaker 2: nineteen yard line you through an interception, Swersby never never 757 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 2: really got going in the Utah game. If you look back, 758 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: Brendan Sorsby I believe completed thirty three percent of his 759 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 2: passes thirty three percent, eleven of thirty three for two 760 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: twenty one with a touchdown and an interception, and of 761 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: those two hundred and twenty one yards, much like the 762 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: friar Mouth touchdown with Aaron Rodgers Austin, they had Cyrus 763 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,479 Speaker 2: Allen for an eighty eight yard touchdown. You take away 764 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 2: that one place. That is a very very poor stat line, 765 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: and it still was for Swersby based on who he's been. 766 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: The good news for UC they still ran it for 767 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 2: seven yards per carry, but they just didn't get much 768 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 2: going in the passing game. Joe Royer was targeted once, 769 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: only made one catch, Noah Jennings, Caleb Goodie, Jeff Cadwell 770 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 2: were all relatively quiet. They played the game without Evan 771 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: Pryor'd be interested to see if they can get back 772 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 2: him back to full strength. But it was a comedy 773 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: of airs. Offense was inconsistent, defense could not get the 774 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: stops when necessary, and a special teams unit who had 775 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: been a strength, Stephen Russknack missed his first field goal 776 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: of the year and Max Fletcher gave up one big 777 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: return and then a return for a touchdown on back 778 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: to back punts. So the big news, the big thing 779 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 2: to look for here Austin. Do they look more like 780 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: the team that lost the last five down the stretch 781 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: last year after a loss or are they a team 782 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 2: that has a different makeup and a team that answers 783 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: the bell from a disappointing loss and then moves forward 784 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: that to me, not only do I think that defines Saturday, 785 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: I think that defines the rest of the year because 786 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 2: if they answer the bell, can you imagine the build 787 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 2: up next week with BYU coming in town, Austin and 788 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 2: what that means and the possibility if you got two 789 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 2: games left, one at home, one on the road, and 790 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: if you win both, you're playing for a Big twelve 791 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: title in Dallas. Or you lose to Arizona, wheels feel 792 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: like they're falling off a little bit. BYU comes into 793 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: town and then you've got to go to TCU. You've 794 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 2: built up such a good season, you're in the College 795 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 2: Football Playoff rankings at number twenty five. You can't let 796 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 2: that fall apart. You can't let that crumble because you've 797 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: worked so hard to build where you're at. Dante Corleone's health, 798 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 2: Jake golday, Evan pryor the health of this team and 799 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 2: their key players is extremely important. But Austin, we're either 800 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 2: spending time next week talking about a huge matchup at 801 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: Nippert Stadium, or we're having the conversation of potentially, oh, 802 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: it feels like here we go again and all that 803 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: is up for Grams on Saturday at noon in Knippert Stadium. 804 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: Should be a great contest, should be a great crowd. 805 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 2: I'm looking here, Austin. We get every morning, we get 806 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 2: a WCPO nine First Warning Forecast presented by Jennifer Ketchmark 807 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: kind of left on the desk in here. Listen to 808 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 2: this for Saturday. Yeah, partly cloudy, not getting as cold, 809 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 2: low of forty nine. I'm sorry, that's that's never of mine. 810 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 2: Nu's for Friday night, dude. Read the forecast correctly. Okay, 811 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 2: you see football game day. It's a warm wedge. What 812 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 2: did you just say? Warm wedge? That's what's listed on here. 813 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: Mostly cloudy and isolated showers possible, but it won't be 814 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: much cooler. Following week is cooler. Saturday's high Austin. This 815 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: is a noon kickoff. 816 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 3: You gotta work on these forecast reads. 817 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 2: Saturday's high sixty nine degrees. Yeah, can't ask for anything more. Yeah, 818 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 2: I saw it's like eighty one in Lexington today. Yea 819 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 2: seventy one in Columbus and it's like fifty five here. 820 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: How's that work? We're in the Elmo. I don't need 821 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 3: the weather people. 822 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: It's an Alberta clipper. The Northeaster's coming down. 823 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 3: Dude, speaking of northeaster tonight, speaking to northeaster tonight, Thursday 824 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 3: night football the Jets and the Patriots. The Patriots are 825 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 3: wearing their rivalry edition Northeaster. 826 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 5: You. 827 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how about that. 828 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to see like the Northern 829 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: lights or anything in the last couple nights. 830 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 3: Uh no, that was the thing. I know it back 831 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 3: where I'm from in Sydney, they were crazy. Que I 832 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 3: live here now that's a little too bright for me 833 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 3: to see it. 834 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: Okay, man, lights is too bright? 835 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 3: Oh man, my future so braga where shades? 836 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 2: You know who else's future is bright? John Shearon he's 837 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 2: a star. 838 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 3: I mean once he started coming up on this show. 839 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 2: It's just he's a star. 840 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: Moon man him An Armstrong. 841 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: He'll join us next for me Adas Sports Neil John 842 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: Shearon definitely not Lance Armstrong. Number two on ESPN fifteen. 843 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 2: Lance Armstrong and Sharon Moore have in common. I don't 844 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: know Lance Armstrong beat Michigan or beat Ohio State too. 845 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 3: They both cheated. 846 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: Wow, unbelievable. 847 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 3: Write that one down. 848 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: What an accusation? 849 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 3: Accusation? Oh okay, we gotta talk, No, we gotta talk 850 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: about this. This is driving me insane. Number one, you 851 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 3: are a freaking psychopath. With the amount of alarms you 852 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 3: have set on your phone, I got a lot like 853 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous how often your alarm goes off and you 854 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 3: have changed it. It used to be this little diddy. 855 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 3: You know. 856 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 2: Here's what I do at different times throughout the day, 857 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 2: Like a lot of people will write notes to themselves 858 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 2: if they think of something that I know, there's time. 859 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 3: You have an iPhone and there's a great app on 860 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 3: it called reminders that will not make remind you every 861 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 3: time you open your phone. 862 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 2: When I when I have a reminder to myself, I 863 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 2: set it for a sense, Like normally at twelve fifty nine, 864 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 2: we're in the middle of a break to go to 865 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 2: the next hour. Yeah, and there's stuff that I want 866 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: to accomplish over the break or need to do that 867 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: next hour. That's my way of telling myself that's what 868 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: just happened. Like, what what is on there that you 869 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 2: had to be reminded of it? Twelve fifty nine, Well, 870 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 2: right now, I wrote down commissions exclamation point where are they? 871 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: So I got stuff to work on. We got to 872 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 2: talk to John Shared in just a few more. That's 873 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. I really did. I wrote to myself 874 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: dot dot dot where are those? 875 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 3: Thanks to a magnifying glasshouse, start looking. 876 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 2: For ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station. 877 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 6: U c k Y Cincinnati, make us the number one 878 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 6: preset on your car radio and on the free new 879 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 6: and improved iHeartRadio app free Never sounded so good ESPN 880 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 6: fifteen thirty. 881 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 3: Another