1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: If by Hollywood you mean Burbank across the street promo 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: meaners and it's a little that serves beer. 4 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: That's true. Joe Escalante here every Sunday from five to 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: KiB eleven fifty on your AM radio dial. And it 6 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: is two hours of the business, end of show business. 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: So let's get started. Sam, can you hear me? 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, loud and clear, good to hear me. 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Oh all right. We're coming to you from the Planet 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: of the Tapes studio in Seal Beach, California. And Sam 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: is in the Burbank Studios across the street from that 12 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Wienerschnitzel over there where we had the most amazing oscar party. Sam. 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean, what could you compare it to? I mean, 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: it's I think it was number one, best one yet. 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's incomparable. Every year, I feel like we 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: always put out such a good effort, like a truly 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: good red carpet affair. You know, every we get that 18 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: wiener brow flowing. Everybody loves it. And this year it 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: feels like we really like jumped up to a new level. 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: It felt good. 21 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: I want I think Carrot Top for for being the 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: celebrity that attended our Oscar gala. 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard he. I heard he's really enjoying the 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: job at the Wiener Schnitzel. 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: Now was he there already? He was just I thought 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: he came because we invited him. 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: No, no, he was already working there. 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay. Well, you know there's something you know, 29 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: just dignified about a guy who will will take an 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: honest job. 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like that. 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: Some people think he's above it, He's not. 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know, hey, you take what you can get 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: in this economy. I'm sure he had every spatula inside 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: of that suitcase too, so he I'm sure he had. 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: Like he was, he was prepped for the job. 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Did he still have the Carrot Top Theater in Las Vegas? 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't know because they, uh once you look that 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: up for me, because the I have been there the 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: Carrot Top Theater, but they were showing something else that day. 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to see Carrot Top, you know me, carrot Top, ah, 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: Wayne Newton. I like to see the headliners where they 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: go to Vegas. 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: It looks like it's still there, the Carrot Top Theater 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: at the Luxor hotel is still a thing. 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it. 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: Is today, but it'll be open tomorrow. 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: Mow okay, tomorrow, it'll be open for some carrot juice. 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean this is the business, uh of show business. 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: And the big the big story continues sam to be 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: the Live Nation trial, the legal pressure on Live Nation. 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: They're the you know, the big concert promoter that is 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: being accused of of monopolistic practices, anti competitive business practices, 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: violation of the Sherman Anti Trust Act, et cetera. The 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: legal pressure against him, as you know, as you know, 57 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: they did settle with the government. And then that guy 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Tim LAWICKI I think what his name was, he got 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: pardoned by Trump. He was he was part of this 60 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: kind of like weird ticketing or concert a company that 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: owned a bunch of venues. These are all connected to 62 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: the character irving A's off and this guy was was 63 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: indicted and he was going to go to jail maybe, 64 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 2: but he got pardoned, which I didn't think was right. 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: And then I thought they wouldn't even try them try 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: ticket out, but maybe they put on a show trial 67 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: because before the they could they could really get in, 68 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: you know, in into the the testimony in a meaningful way. 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: The government settled with Live Nation, but the pressure on 70 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: them isn't going away. I mean they're they're they're working 71 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: on the settlement that the government has has that they've 72 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: agreed to a ticket master that they own. Multiple state 73 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: attorneys are still pursuing antitrust claims over fees and market 74 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: control because they don't buy it. They don't think this 75 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: is going to change anything. And what's also driving the 76 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: narrative is the internal messages SAM that have been cited recently. 77 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: UH critics point to employee comments describing the system as 78 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: a as a maximizing extraction, like maximizing to extract money 79 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: out of people. In when instance, the language suggested they 80 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: were essentially robbing people on ticket fees. Live Nation says 81 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: these take these comments are taken out of context and 82 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: they don't reflect company policy. But if you have employees 83 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: saying this, this is not only the policy, we think 84 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: it's hilarious. That's not good for your image. So that's 85 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: not gonna be good. The states are gonna aren't gonna 86 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: let up on this now. If Trump pardoned this guy 87 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: and they look like they're Trump buddies, then the then 88 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: the blue states will go after him. Do you know 89 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: how that goes? Yep? 90 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: Well, and it's it really makes it seem like the 91 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: laws themselves are now completely subject to whoever is in power. Yes, 92 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: it makes it so that we now kind of have 93 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: to analyze just how solid our legal system is. 94 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Sam, Sam, you nailed it right there. In fact, that's 95 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: kind of a theme of today's show. Got Trey parking, 96 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: mat Stone battling Paramount Global over South Park. We'll get 97 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: to that. Wow, these live, these live nation guys under 98 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: pressure over the ticketing. Uh. Liam McSweeney, a woman from 99 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: a Housewives show on Bravo. She forced them into an 100 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: open court instead of arbitration. So who's really control the 101 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: people making the content, these executives running the companies or 102 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: the platforms, controlling distribution, because right now it looks like 103 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: everybody's fighting for control and control of these ticket pricing things. 104 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: Is you know, can the fans rise up? Can the 105 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: state lawmakers? Do they have leverage? Do they have power? Uh? 106 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: You've got the administration sighting on the side of the 107 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: big boys. And you know Trump ran as a populist. 108 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: You know, you people are getting ripped off, the ripping 109 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: you off. Here the ripping you off there. And then 110 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: he's like, he doesn't seem to be taking this concert 111 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: thing seriously. And I think he could pay a price 112 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: for that, because people when people want to go see 113 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and your kids want to go ta Taylor Swift, 114 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: see Taylor Swift, and it's all. Then they realize that 115 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: there's a ticket racket going on. They put pressure on 116 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: the administration if the administration appears that they're sighting with 117 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: these h where you call them, uh fat cats, that's 118 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: what they are saying. They're fat cats, and they are 119 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: and they are fat. They are fat, and they come 120 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: from they come from an era when uh, you know, 121 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: he had a bunch of money. You ate a bunch 122 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: of food, and you tried to live forever once you 123 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: realize you destroyed your body with all your food and 124 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: then you need to diet. Now there's you know, you 125 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: have people like Steve Jobs trying to live forever or 126 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: you know fit uh executives and dot com guys. But 127 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: a lot of these ticket guys are just left over 128 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: from I'm just gonna be fat because I eat a 129 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: lot of stuff and I eat it late at night. 130 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: You know, those people elate at night. They just never 131 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: can lose the weight and they haven't, and they're like, 132 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: I could take one of these injections, yeah, zempic, but 133 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: some of them do some of them don't look at me. 134 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: I'm wondering. I look at some of them, going, we 135 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: just take an injection. Well, they probably know that it's 136 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: kind of a weird shot. Anyway, this is not a 137 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: medical show. I'm not licensed to practice medicine in California 138 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: where I'm sitting right now, So let's just leave that there. 139 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: The Guatemalan medical degree, however. 140 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: No in Guatemala, I think, Yeah, it's a different story. Yeah, okay, 141 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: all right, let's uh, let's start a little bit about 142 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: the box office right now. We're we're going to get 143 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: to the South Park, We're going to get to the 144 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: uh Bravo lawsuits. But let's go to the box office 145 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: where there's some big news today. This weekend's box office 146 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: designed by one defined by one thing, Sam. It was 147 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 2: a real event opening. Now if you don't have these 148 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: real events now, they're just the box office is pretty dreary. 149 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: Project Hail Mary debuted to a massive eighty point six 150 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: million dollars just for the weekend. It's kind of a 151 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: launch that can change the whole conversation about the marketplace. Sam, Yeah, 152 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: instead of a instead of a WEEKI week and sleepy weekend, 153 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: we've we have some serious traffic at the theaters. Hops 154 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: they held Well, that's got eighteen million for one hundred 155 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: and twenty million domestic total, ready or not? Two? Here 156 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: I come open solidly with nine point one million. Still, 157 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: that's a horror film. It's going to make money. But 158 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: there's that's not eighty point six million. Why did so 159 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: many people go see Project Hail Mary. We'll talk about 160 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: that in a bit. Scream seven dropped by half undertone collapsed, 161 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: which tells you audiences are you know, they're very selective. 162 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: You know they're going to go to Barbie, they're going 163 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: to go to Oppenheimer. Scream seven they're like, you know, 164 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: only a few of them are going to go. So 165 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: the takeaway this week for the box office it's very 166 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: hit driven. If Hollywood gives them a movie that they want, 167 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: they're going to go. And boy did they give them 168 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: a movie that they wanted. Sam, I think we'll take 169 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: a break and we'll come back and we'll talk about 170 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: Project hell Mary. Where your humble host was in the 171 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: theater is watching this weekend. So I will talk about 172 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: that and more after the traffic on Joe Sclante Live 173 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: from Hollywood, k e I B eleven fifty Joe Scolante 174 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: Live from Hollywood by Hollywood do you mean Burbank? Okay? 175 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: The top ten in the box office. We will go 176 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: over about Project Hail Mary, which is number one, eighty million, Hoppers, 177 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: number two, eighteen million, number three, The Revenge. I think 178 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: that's like Bollywood action cool number four ready or not? Here? 179 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: I come nine million, number five, Reminders of Him six 180 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: s Greame seven, seven go eight Undertone nine, Weathering Heights 181 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: ten basically a tie between Avatar and the Bride, which 182 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: is a very disappointing Flopperini. Okay, So hoppers do you 183 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: want to know about? Hoppers? You want to know about? 184 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen the pictures and the advertisements all 185 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: around the place. It seems like another fun animated film. 186 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: Here's the twist. Here, high concept scientists discover how to 187 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: transfer human consciousness into robotic animal bodies. And you got 188 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: this woman who hops into a mechanical beaver to infiltrate 189 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: the animal world. Okay, uh, and then so she's like 190 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: she's a she's a robot beaver or some kind of 191 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: thing or whatever. Robo beaver, robo beaver, yes, robo beaver. 192 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, why did they Why would they? I mean, 193 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: I know they're like everybody in Disney like wants to 194 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: you know'd be great. We have a female character, you know, 195 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: a strong female lead in this would really show our 196 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: progressive values. You got a movie about a beaver. Yeah, 197 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: put a woman in the title role. It didn't seem 198 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: like they thought that through. 199 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: No, No, it seems like that concept can go into 200 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: so many different directions. 201 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but that's you know, that's where that's you woke. 202 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: You don't go broke in this case, the little cringe factor. 203 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 2: Is it going to make money? Yes? One hundred and 204 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: twenty million. Yes. Is that an Arab movie going to 205 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: make money? Yes? Is Project Hail Mary movie going to 206 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: make money? Yes? Tons of it ready or not? Here 207 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: I com Yes, low budget horror sequel makes nine million 208 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: in the first weekend. Yeah, it's gonna make money. Reminders 209 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: of him. We heard of this movie? 210 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: No, I have not. 211 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you. It's a film adaptation of 212 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: a best selling novel by Colleen Hoover, directed by Vanessa Caswell, 213 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: known for romantic dramas like Love at First Sight starring 214 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: Maika Monroe. Okay you are getting in here. This is 215 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: for ladies. Ye. It's a redemption story about a young 216 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: mother rebuilding her life after prison, squarely aimed at the 217 00:13:51,679 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: same audiences that made Colleen Hoover's books big hits. So yeah, 218 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: female skewing, built in fan base. Maybe it makes money 219 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: or maybe it doesn't. It's it's they're on the fence 220 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: in that one scream seven profitable. That's like printing money. Yeah, goat, 221 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: Goat's making money. It's going to be a winner. Undertone 222 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: is the big loser of the week because a lot 223 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: of these are winners. Uh, the drop off was was 224 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: really low and the total was never very big. It's 225 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: kind of an indie horror Miss Weathering Heights. They say 226 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna it's a winner. I say it's a loser 227 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: because I had to see it and the bride as 228 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: we talked about, it's gonna lose money. All right, let's 229 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: get back to Project Hail Mary. Why are people going 230 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: to see this movie? Same? I have a theory. My 231 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: theory is these are the people. And I can tell 232 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: you because I saw I was in the theater last night. 233 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: These are not normal people that go to the theater. 234 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: These are people that can't control their bladders. These are 235 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: people that are like, cocktail sounds nice, and then they 236 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: have to go to the bathroom. The elder a couple 237 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: of times. It's just people that are not used to 238 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: going to the movies. 239 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so which is good. 240 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: Because we want those people back in the theaters. That 241 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: would be nice if they learn some etiquette. But they 242 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: are usually movies like this or someone sitting in my 243 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: seat and they you know, people are getting up. Several times, 244 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: phones are going off. But in this case, you know, 245 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: I go to the Belitari and Huntington Beach, very civilized. 246 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: No phones ever go off in that theater. No one 247 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: ever yells at anybody, No one ever talks at the theater. 248 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: But I noticed it, just a little bit of more activity. 249 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: People going to the bathroom work. So people like Ryan Goslin, 250 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: he is. 251 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: A very bankable, marketable actor. He is as like, he's 252 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: as pleasing as it can get. 253 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: Just exactly if you saw Barbie, you saw that he's funny, 254 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: extremely talented, likable, He made a movie like Barbie fun 255 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: for guys with his role as Ken. You know in 256 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: a way that Ken Dolls never took off for young boys. 257 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: Ryan Gosling is a hit with men, So you've got 258 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: the four quadrants, the men, older men, older women, younger boys, girls, 259 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: you got a recipe for everybody's like it's a space movie, 260 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: and then for young girls or older rolls. Ryan Gosling 261 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: is a hot number, so it's all in there. Reviews 262 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: are good. In fact, when I looked it up to 263 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: see whether I should waste my time on it, it 264 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: had an eight point five out of ten on IMDb, 265 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: and I got to tell you, that's the highest rating 266 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: I've ever seen for a movie in theaters. So according 267 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: to IMDb, it's the greatest movie ever made. Citizen Kane 268 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: doesn't have one of those wow, so I go, okay, 269 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: we're going. So I quickly got my seats, looked at 270 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: the theater. Every seat's taken almost but I got a 271 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: good seat at four point thirty on Saturday. And delightful film. Delightful, 272 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: just exciting and funny and hold your interest the whole time. 273 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: Amazing special effects, the acting is fantastic, the story ready directed, 274 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: by the two guys that did Lego movies. So there's 275 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: all kinds of fun stuff in it, thrown here and there. 276 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: Project Hail Mary the name of the movie. Yeah. It 277 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: starts Gossling as a lone astronaut who wakes up into space, 278 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: like kind of like Planet of the Apes when they 279 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: woke up and they were sleeping the whole time, and 280 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: then they woke up and they had beards and things 281 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: like that. He wakes up in no memory, doesn't know 282 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 2: what he's doing in the spaceship, but then he realizes 283 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: he's the only one alive in the spaceship. So it's 284 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: based on a novel by Andy Weir. He's the guy 285 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: who wrote The Martian is way better than the Martian, 286 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: And you got the Lego movie team Lord and Miller, 287 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: and it's a big swing. You know, I don't know 288 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: what the budget is, but it's just you know, one 289 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: hundred million, hundred and fifty million, I don't know, just 290 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: and a strange alien co star. It's like R two 291 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: D two times one thousand. It could be the next 292 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: Baby Yoda. So anyways, it's connecting. It's a hit, and 293 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: there's gonna be toys and you're gonna love it and 294 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna go see it. 295 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: Is it something I would take the kids to? 296 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 297 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: Oh, excellent, all right, cool, something that I can actually 298 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: enjoy when I take the kids. 299 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna love this movie. I mean, I'm telling you, 300 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: you're just gonna love it. You're gonna love every minute 301 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: of it. Super just fun and I want to see 302 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: it again because it's you know, it's a little bit 303 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: technical because there's all kinds of space and relativity, and 304 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: it emphasizes it's almost like all the all the programs 305 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: to promote science among young people, especially girls or whatever 306 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: that they you know, the government's are already trying to 307 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: do around the world, all those programs put together, could 308 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: it could barely equal ten percent of how interesting science 309 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: looks and how sexy it looks. In this film, you 310 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 2: just like, get me, get me into science class. And 311 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: for me, a person who I'm on record is I 312 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: don't believe in science at all. So for me, even 313 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: I was thinking, wow, maybe maybe I should take give 314 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: science a second look. That's what I'm saying. 315 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 3: Say, excellent, excellent. I like movies that expands horizons. 316 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: Yes, or shrinking horizons. To me, if I Look, if 317 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: I get into science and these science people, I can 318 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: be shrinking my horizons. But we'll see, we'll see. The 319 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: jury still out on this whole science thing anyway, so 320 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get too excited about it. I'm 321 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: going to see it one more time. All right, Let's 322 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: take a break and we'll back with more. Joe'scalante Live 323 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: from Hollywood. Joe's Golante Live from Hollywood. Here we go. Okay, 324 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: let's let's move on to south Park and they're dispute 325 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: with Paramount because you hear about it. You hear south 326 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: Park's getting sued or they're suing, and people just don't 327 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: know what, you know, they don't know what to believe. 328 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: What's going on? You know? Are these guys, I mean, 329 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: we all know they've made hundreds of millions of dollars? 330 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: Are they have they lost their mind? They want more? 331 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Or are they getting cheated? Hard to find out by 332 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: reading anything about this. I'm going to try to break 333 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: it down for people in a simple way, so you 334 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: know what's going on and you can root for them, 335 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: or you can root for the man, or maybe they 336 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: are the man. But actually I know these fellas and 337 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: they are definitely not the man. They are just awesome, 338 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: awesome Americans. 339 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, no question. 340 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: Team America absolutely. 341 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: One of the funniest films ever. 342 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: By the way, my favorite part is the organization of 343 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: Thespians in that movie that was called the Film Actors Guild. 344 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: Yep I was not SAG not SAG. Yeah, the Film 345 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Actors Guild. Okay, So this is a fight over the 346 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: South Park rights, and you know, it comes down to 347 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: money in control. Obviously on one side you have Trey 348 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: Parker and Matt Stone. They believe they should be able 349 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: to take the show back out into the open market 350 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: to secure a new and potentially massive streaming deal like 351 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: the kind that previously brought in hundreds of millions. So 352 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: these they make these deals and then they expire, you know, 353 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: and then they're okay, So Paramount's got to go Paramounts. 354 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: And although these guys have a right to income from 355 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: all this stuff and they have a huge ownership in it, 356 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: Paramount has a they control the distribution where it's going 357 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: to go, and but they have to maximize the value 358 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: of it. They can't just do they can't perform self 359 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: dealing and give it to one of their own Uh, 360 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 2: distribution arms without a you know, a huge uh uh uh, 361 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: what do you call it? A bigmore? People want to 362 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: bidding war, you know. 363 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: So are they anticipating that they're not going to get 364 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: promoted to the level that they think they should by Paramount. 365 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: Let me continue, please. What they're frustrated about is that 366 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: Paramount Global has been trying to keep south Park tied 367 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: into its own ecosystem, especially Paramount Plus, which could limit 368 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: the price and competition for those rights, because you know, 369 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: these guys want a Biddy Moore and Paramount's like, just 370 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: keep it here and mean, look, we're gonna we're going 371 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: to pay call it hes to. I used to make 372 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: these documents easy. You make these things. The imputed license fee, 373 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: we would call it. So you're figuring out this profit 374 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: margin and you're saying, what's the license fee because we're 375 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: just distributing ourselves, so we're taking it from one division 376 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: of CBS to another. Well, the imputed license fee, I 377 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: would say, it would be like, I don't know, seven 378 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand an episode, and then someone then 379 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: that might be true, that might be overdoing it, or 380 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: it might be you could go out in the open 381 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: market and get three million an episode times two hundred episodes. 382 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: Pretty soon you're talking about real money. So these guys 383 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: are like, no, no, no, no, no, you got to 384 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: take it out in the world. And then maybe in 385 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 2: the agreement it says like, well we can take it 386 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: out and too, we can keep it as long as 387 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: we offer a reasonable license fee. And now you're going 388 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: to have a fight over what a reasonable license fee is, 389 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: then you got a problem. They're also allegations in the 390 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: litigation that's said during the negotiation the tactics to discourage 391 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: or complicate outside deals was like hardball, so it was 392 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: making it really hard to go anywhere. So they could say, hey, 393 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: we tried to talk to these guys, but they just 394 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: wouldn't talk. So Paramount disputes this. So you got to 395 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: go in and this is things for the try or effect. 396 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: It was the jury or a judge has to go 397 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: in and say, what kind of shenanigans were going on here, 398 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: and if it's anything like the way it was when 399 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: I was at CBS, which is the same as Paramount 400 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: right now, there were shenanigans and they go to court 401 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: and they lose and nobody got profits. It seemed to me. 402 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: I never heard of anybody just getting their profits and 403 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: being happy with them until they went to court and 404 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: showed the distribution agreements to the judge and the jury 405 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: and saying, look at how they expect me to make money. 406 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: It's like this imputed license fee. There's overhead on interest, 407 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: and then interest on overhead. They having to take a 408 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: I have to pay distribution fees, and then I have 409 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: to take distribution costs before I get a penny. And 410 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: then if you real if you looked really deep, nobody 411 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: read the distribution uh definition, and someone could have read 412 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: that and cross things out they were they wouldn't have 413 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: to go to court. But when I was doing this, 414 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: no one would have read them. They would just say 415 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: I want more points. You know, in the back of 416 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: my head, I'm going they might want to read this 417 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: distribution definition. No, I know why you give me three points. 418 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: I want six points like I want to six points. 419 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: Isn't that great? If you don't, you don't negotiate the 420 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: distribution definition, the profit definition. And they were just they 421 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: were lazy and they just going, well, I want more, 422 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: tell mi clan, I got more. You offered three alland six? Okay, guy, 423 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: here's here six and then they end up in court 424 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: because six doesn't mean anything. So these guys are fighting 425 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: this out. They know this. Everybody's smart now they kind 426 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: of things are more transparent, so harder for Paramount to 427 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: do shenanigans. But they're trying it. And if they go 428 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 2: to court, oh, they're going to lose, I believe. So, 429 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: speaking of distribution deals that I wrote and negotiated, Walker 430 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Texas Ranger a prime example where everybody involved in that 431 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: that had profit participation had to go to court and 432 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: they had to fight, spend millions and millions of dollars 433 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: to get their profits and they eventually won. And that 434 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: I was never never deposed. Thought that was interesting. But 435 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 2: they went and they got there and Chuck Norris got 436 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: his profits and he lived a very happy life as 437 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: a retired Texas Ranger and he just passed away this week. 438 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: So rip Chuck Norris. And I posted something in my 439 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Instagram about him, and I'll just briefly mention it in 440 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: case you don't see my instagram you could. It's like 441 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: Joey dot Escalante. One day he called me, I was 442 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: in charge of his show. I renegotiated. It was with 443 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: Cannon films. I renegotiated all the Canon deals when Canon 444 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: went out of business and they go went bankrupt before 445 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: the show even went on the air. So to save 446 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: the show, I had to go in and renegotiate every 447 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 2: actor deal, writer deal, director deal and deal with the guilds. 448 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: As they were telling me, you can't do this, So 449 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: I did it. It was successful, and then so I 450 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: became somewhat close with Chuck saving his show and everything, 451 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: and he one day sent me a tape of a 452 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: song called the Eyes of a Ranger that was written 453 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: by one of his black belts. He said, and he said, 454 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: what should I do with this? And it's good you're 455 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: in the music business. I go, okay, yeah, I've been 456 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: in a punk band for a while, and I'll listen 457 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: to it and I go, wow, this is great. And 458 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: I went to my boss and I got permission. I go, 459 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 2: if I can get Chuck to sing this, can this 460 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: be the theme song for season two? And it was 461 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: too late for season one? And he goes, yeah, I 462 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: can get Chuck to sing that'd be awesome. So I went. 463 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: I go back to him and I said, you got 464 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: to sing it, you got to do it, and he goes, 465 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: I can't sing, I doesn't matter. We're gonna do this 466 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: like Beverly Hillbillies. It's gonna be like recitation like Beverly 467 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: Hillbillies is like let me tell you a story about 468 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: amen named Jed. It's not really singing. It's like going 469 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 2: Texas t You know, y'all come back now. You hear 470 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff. So we were in the 471 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: studio and I got him a vocal coach and we 472 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: did it. Turned out great, became the theme song for 473 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: the show, Made the black Belt Guy Wealthy, and I 474 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: got a credit as an executive producer of that track, 475 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 2: and that's still on my IMDb. If you haven't been 476 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: to my IMDb, people, you're missing out. Who is this 477 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: guy in the radio? Go to my IMDb page and 478 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: then you can see every single thing I've done in 479 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: TV and film and it's kind of fun. You'll see 480 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: a lot of weird stuff. And let me know on 481 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: my Facebook page where you think was the weirdest, there's 482 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: some weird stuff up there. 483 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: Do they have an IMDb for music. 484 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called AllMusic dot Com. But it's not I 485 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: don't think anybody uses it really, it's not the same. 486 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't have the same ravatos because people don't need it, 487 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: really may need it for like, oh, who's this producer? 488 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: Who's this guy produced? You know, yeah, you just don't 489 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 2: need it. But in movies you go like, all right, 490 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: who's this guy, who's Joe Scalante? Should we hire them? 491 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like at his IMDb pages, you have experience, 492 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: is this real? His resume looks pretty thick. And they 493 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: go there and they look and they go, wow, ancient aliens, 494 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: four years cursive, Oak Island. This guy writes nothing but hits. 495 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: Then the offers just come in, Sam, They just they 496 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: just come pouring in. 497 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, anyway, that's the idea. 498 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so go look at it. Now, let's take 499 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: a break. Come back, we'll talk about some bad celebrities 500 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: in the world of Hollywood Live from Hollywood, Joe Scolante style. 501 00:29:44,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: After this, Joe, that's it, Joe Scalente. Thank you, Steve Jones. 502 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: Speaking of punk rock gods like that, Fat Mike produced 503 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: a film about no FX that debuted at the New 504 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: Art Theater on Thursday, and I was there at the 505 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: premiere and it was a big event. It was really awesome. Movies, 506 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: great it's got some problems that I'm arguing with Fat 507 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: Mike about right now. I'm not a producer on this 508 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: or anything, but I am in it. So I'm in 509 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: it quite a bit for not being in No Effects. 510 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: But there's a spoiler alert. The singer of No Effects 511 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: and probably the most successful man in the history of 512 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: punk rock as a performer and a record label owner, 513 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: et cetera, and founder of the Punk Rock Museum, he 514 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: discovered punk rock one day at summer camp at Mountain 515 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: Meto Ranch in Susanville when he was a young camp 516 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: and a work crew member named Joe Escalante was playing 517 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: punk rock from his dorm and the young kid came 518 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: by and said, what is that beat on the brat 519 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 2: with a baseball bat. I liked that, and I told 520 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: him this is called punk rock, young lad, and changed 521 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: his life, and he admits it. 522 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: That's fascinating. Punk rock changes everybody's life when they first 523 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: hear it. 524 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: It really does. I mean, I don't know where I 525 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: was headed, you know. I think I was a little 526 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: too well dressed before punk rock came around, and then 527 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: I still tried to dress well, but I went to 528 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: thrift stores and I was you know more humble. I 529 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: didn't have to go to South Coast Plaza to get 530 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: you know, on my clothes. I was going to the 531 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: Value Village on Woodruf. But anyway, Fat Mike paid me 532 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: back sevenfold for my introduction to punk rock. He just 533 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: you know, made millions out of it, changed people's lives, 534 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: helped so many people. The movie is called forty Years 535 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: of Effing Up and Name. Yeah, of course you would 536 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: like it because you're filthy mind but anyway worth seeing. 537 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: But it's not going to be on streaming. It's only 538 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: going to play in theaters and only in rocky horror style, 539 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: so you have to keep kind of looking for it. 540 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: And then you see it. It's going to play at 541 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: ten pm. You wanted to play it at midnight, like, 542 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: just you don't want guy, Just you don't have to 543 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: be midnight guy. Just crank it back. People are old, 544 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: they don't like to stay up till four in the 545 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: morning going to the movies. So I would definitely go 546 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: see it if you get a chance. So okay, So 547 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: we went over the distribution deals. How you should always 548 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: you know, you want gross profits, you don't want net profits. 549 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: But you'll never get to this level probably until you 550 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: have a really good lawyer, so you don't worry about 551 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: it that much, but you want to You want to 552 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: have a good lawyer and you want your prod. Here's 553 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: my advice team. If you get offered a profit definition, 554 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: have it tied to the most important person of the show. 555 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: It's kind of all you have to do. You're write 556 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: on the thing, great, this is all great. My profits 557 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: are great. I like the number of whatever the number is. 558 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: You can ask for two if they give you one, 559 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: five if they give you two. But say I want 560 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: the definition tied to the top person in this show, 561 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: could be the host, could be the showrinner. Try to 562 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: do that. If you do that, your goal there. That 563 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: guy probably has a good lawyer. But maybe not because 564 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: you know who are these people? Walker, Texas Stranger. You know, 565 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: all right, we're going to go to There's another paramount 566 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: story going on right now. A lawsuit has been filed. 567 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: This is kind of interesting. There's a guy named Cipriani, 568 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: Ah J. Cipriani. It's kind of a fixer. He claims 569 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: he's owed one hundred and fifty million dollars for alleged 570 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: crisis communication services under an unwritten agreement and Paramount's like, 571 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Yeah, you know, you remember 572 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: the christ Is Communications Services I did for you one 573 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million. They got no contract. And he's 574 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: suing the guy Jeff Schell, who's the president of Paramount Global, 575 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: and he's suing Larry Ellison, Redbird Capital Partners, everybody, and 576 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: he's I don't know what kind of business he's normally in, 577 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: but Cipriani says they got to pay up. So is 578 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 2: the early stages of this thing. It'll be interesting to 579 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: see where this guy, where this goes, and what he 580 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: actually did. Okay, I got I think I've got one 581 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: more of these stories that I want to get to you, 582 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: and that is, Oh the Bravo went Bravo that's under 583 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: Celebrities Behaving Badly. 584 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: A TV station. 585 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: Bravo's being sued by one of their ladies, Liam McSweeney. 586 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: This is interesting because Okay, she says they were applying 587 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: her with alcohol and they knew she had an addiction 588 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: and so they exploited that. And then they're saying that 589 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: Andy Cohen guy was doing cocaine with people, and if 590 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: you didn't do cocaine with them, you didn't get better, 591 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: you know, editing, and then they can make you look 592 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: terrible because you know in the editing, I mean they're 593 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: filming for hours, an hour and hours. They can make 594 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: it look bad, they can make it look good. So 595 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: she was not playing along. They made her look bad 596 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: and then she sued them. Now I don't know if 597 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: she's an ungrateful you know what, or if she has 598 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: a case not worried about that. I'm worried about this 599 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: and I'm interested in this, and she this case is 600 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: going to court rather than arbitration. Now, normally you see 601 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: these things, they say, hey, if anything goes wrong and 602 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: you want to sue us, you agree right here on 603 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: paper to go to arbitration. Now, if you go to arbitration, 604 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: it's all private. There's no discovery that's public, and you 605 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: just tell some guy the story and he decides if 606 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: it's public. WHOA do you have leverage? Because everything they 607 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: don't want discovery to show how, you know, poorly they 608 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: treat these realities show people or how they try to 609 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 2: get them to act crazy and with no regard for 610 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: their personal you know, lives or what happens to them 611 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: after these shows are over. So they don't want to 612 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: see that, so they're going to settle, more likely settle 613 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: with you asking for ten million dollars. Here, give it. 614 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to go to court, So that's why 615 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: they put these arbitration things in there. However, she avoided 616 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: arbitration by successfully arguing that the arbitration clause in her 617 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: Bravo contract couldn't be enforced against these specific claims she 618 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: brought in this case. The court found at least some 619 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: of her allegations, particularly those framed around workplace conduct and 620 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: statutory predictions, fell outside the scope of arbitration and were 621 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: clearly not covered by it. You know, like if you 622 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: got some guy doing cocaine and someone ignoring your addiction 623 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: problems and things that might be you know, borderline criminal, 624 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: you can't arbitrate your way out of that. So when 625 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: you see the arbitration claim and you look at it 626 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 2: and go like, well, that's how I don't want to 627 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: sign that, because if they're really really really bad to me, 628 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: I don't want it to go to arbitration. So what 629 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you is, yeah, go ahead and sign it, 630 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: because if they're really really really bad for you to you, 631 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: the court will say you can't use an arbitration. You 632 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: can't an arbitration clause to get you out. It's like 633 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: you can't negotiate yourself out of negligence if someone's negligent. 634 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: You know, you can't say, oh, you agree that if 635 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: we're negligent and you get hurt, that this waiver covers 636 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: our liability. No, no, no no. If you're negligent, people 637 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: have to at least be not negligent. So when you 638 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: see that arbitration thing, don't you know, don't panic. My 639 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: other last story is Kevin Spacey has reached a new 640 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: civil settlement with all those people in England and he 641 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 2: was in the working at the old vic Theater and 642 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: he was accused of, you know, some kind of horrible 643 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: behavior in the workplace, making people uncomfortable and stuff like that. 644 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: Now you wonder who are these people that sued him 645 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: and settled. You don't know, because in England they didn't 646 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 2: they were allowing anonymity. They're not even you know, minors, 647 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 2: but they didn't have to. Their names were not revealed 648 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: in court. So that's kind of I don't know, what 649 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: do you think about that? Sam, Like you get sued 650 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: by a bunch of people and nobody knows who they don't. 651 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 2: They know they're not going to risk being publicly named, 652 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: and because otherwise people might go, hey, I saw you. 653 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: You're having a good time at that theater. What you're saying, 654 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: you got a gripe. And he doesn't have a traditional 655 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: right to confront his accusers like you do in a 656 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: criminal case. So it's just getting sued by people that 657 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: no one's ever going to know who they are. They 658 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: have very little to lose. They're gonsuing you. It seems 659 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 2: a little one sided. But he won or he settled, 660 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: so then this is not going anywhere. And this guy. 661 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: The reason why I mentioned this because I think this 662 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: guy is going to mount one of the comebacks of 663 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: all time because whatever kind of a personal, whatever personal 664 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: vemans he has, he's a fantastic actor, and I think 665 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 2: he's going to be Okay, what do you think? So, 666 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 2: I don't know, are ready? Are you ready for Kevin 667 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: Space to come back? 668 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 3: It seems like he's already trying to mount some kind 669 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: of a comeback doing some interest in the waters. Yeah, 670 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: but this kind of thing, it's it's hard to wash 671 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: this kind of thing off of a resume. 672 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: I think I think he's going to be able to 673 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 2: do it. It's going to be able to do it because 674 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: it's mostly, like you know, it's aggressive gayness. Really, it's 675 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: what it is. And when you look at it, is 676 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 2: that any worse than aggressive heterosexuality with people who are, 677 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 2: you know, of age. It's it's despicable. We spit on 678 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 2: the ground when we see it. But if there's no 679 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 2: Epstein's style crimes in trafficking, I think he'll get another chance. 680 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: We'll see issues of consent always go kind of deep. 681 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 3: We'll see how it rolls. He's definitely going to give 682 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 3: it a shot. He has the acting chops to be 683 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: able to pull off just about anything. So we'll see 684 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 3: where it takes it. 685 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: We'll see how deep it went. Yeah, all right, Sam, 686 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: I think we can wrap this up and I now 687 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 2: leave you with just a taste of the greatest song 688 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: ever written.